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00:00:00   all right I'm gonna minimize the brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   for maximum bandwidth yeah breathing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1">TS</a>]

00:00:03   gonna make the don't minimize me joke no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   I checked for ages now you haven't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5">TS</a>]

00:00:08   have an almost method I never don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   think remember a while back I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/10">TS</a>]

00:00:17   about my little experiment where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   changed my gray icon on all my system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   from being your flask and gear symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25   Harter like a smiling gray face because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   I thought it would make me feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29   fondly towards you when you send your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   robotic text messages and emails to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   that you still fear yes yes you found my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   messages too brief and too cold and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   thought a happier picture might improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   the situation as I remember yeah how's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   that going I think it's worked you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   oh yeah I think has worked so after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   running the experiment for a while my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   advice is if there's someone who pisses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   you off a little bit with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52   messaging change the picture to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   friendliest possible picture and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   changes the way you view the person hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   like a text messaging psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   start over that's what's happening yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   you just look happier more of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   to me and I don't imagine you being all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   sort of grumpy and robotic with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   brief replies I'm picturing you smiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   as you think about me Freddie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   every time I send you a text message I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   send it with a smile yeah you're a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   smile a minute you are I'm amazed I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   have a picture of you smiling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24   wasn't great get so gray you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27   spend a lot of time thinking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/87">TS</a>]

00:01:28   Marty Blackstone yeah I dunno you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   a lot of time thinking about that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   be bland stuff there is now a Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   article just dedicated to the tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   buildings in Adelaide and whoever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   that by the way you are my personal hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   I was a little bit humbled though when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/101">TS</a>]

00:01:45   saw that the tallest building in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   Adelaide is actually the 115th tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   building in Australia I was gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/109">TS</a>]

00:01:54   Wikipedia they have the lists of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   everything but I was wondering a list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/116">TS</a>]

00:01:59   the tallest buildings in Adelaide how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   tall can these buildings actually be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   that sounds like that's the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   this article though makes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   fascinating reading on numerous levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   it does partly because there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12   bunch of buildings that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   proved or under construction and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   going to turn the world upside down I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   mean a whole bunch of the approved ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   will be taller than the black stamp one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   will even beat older than the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   tallest so it's all happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   Adelaide yeah I imagine so I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   at this list and the mighty black stump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   also known as the grenfell Center on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   this list which I think probably should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   be amended if someone's really diligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/156">TS</a>]

00:02:36   yeah it's number three on this list this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   is what I want to talk about uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   this needs to be settled because you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/161">TS</a>]

00:02:45   remember when I spoke to the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46   building manager of the mighty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   stamp when I visited and he told me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   it was the second tallest building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   he was upset that there were articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   going around that were claiming it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   third and this third place position for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/176">TS</a>]

00:03:00   the black stamp is becoming more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   more entrenched on the internet and fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   enough if that's the fact of the matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   I'll accept it but I've got a suspicion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   that it's not over do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11   you think this the hell straw house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   which is claiming to be one meter taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   you think there's some shenanigans going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   on there yeah and I don't know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/197">TS</a>]

00:03:18   or not this 103 meters versus 104 meters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   mm-hmm I think maybe that refers to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   the top of the building and not maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   masts and things on top which probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   should be included I don't know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   want to get to the bottom of it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   have no resources available to me other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   than the Internet and the Internet has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   this kind of self-perpetuating aspect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   it where everyone just copies everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   else off the previous articles and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   the feeling that everywhere I look I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   just reading the same stuff from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   same source yeah so I need someone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   like contacts and influence and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   access to sort of blueprints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   surveying equipment or something I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   to settle once and for all what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   taller between Telstra house at 30 Perry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   Street and the Grenville Center at 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   grand fall straight to be second place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   as Adelaide's told us building behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   Westpac house which is a runaway winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   obviously runaway winner of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   obviously I've loaded up Adelaide here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   on the 3d Apple maps on the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   yeah this is trying to see which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   looks taller as though I can see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   metres difference in this 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   representation close to each other these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   it looks like they are across the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   from each other not quite actually no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   are they even on the same block or am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   looking at a different building I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   maybe Telstra houses maybe not quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   same block I'm not sure that's it here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   the thing Brady I know this is once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   again evidence of how the mighty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   stump is mighty in your mind but is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   necessarily super obvious on the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   skyline of Adelaide I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   because it's like so black it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   it's been painted with that vente black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   that is like the blackest substance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   known to man when you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   Adelaide skyline it's not noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   because of its height it's noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   because of its blackness no no of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   I understand no they are right next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   each other it looks like there's a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07   little church in between these two rival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   buildings for second place in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   they're right next to each other yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   actually yeah they are very close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   each other now that I look at the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   yeah but this needs to be sorted gray by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/315">TS</a>]

00:05:19   experts and it needs to be sorted in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   favor preferably again do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   count it looks like there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   antenna on top of the mighty black stump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   should antennas count do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   it should count if it works in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   favor it shouldn't count if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   work in your favor I think that sums up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   my attitude yes okay that's the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   works yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   can we get some people to do that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   of surveying you do when you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   at mountains with these two buildings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   Adelaide yeah that's what I'm hoping for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   triangulates from known heights the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   heights of these two buildings I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   like to see that and you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   want to make promises mm-hmm but H I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   medals of Honor could be at stake here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   depending on the result yeah depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   on the result and be aware dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   listeners I will find it nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/362">TS</a>]

00:06:02   if the Grenville centre mighty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   stump is firmly solidified in third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   place that would be hilarious for me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   so hilarious for Brady well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   interestingly I'm looking at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   picture that you sent and I mean toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   building does look a little bit taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   from that angle but you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   tell yeah also by the way you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   this but I'll tell you so that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   fully in the picture the tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   building is also in that picture just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   the bottom part of it hmm in the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   right corner of that picture you sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   you see like a sort of a oh right Riano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   page building that's the tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   building but so what you're telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   no matter what the current situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   which of these buildings is a metre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37   taller than the other yeah there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   to be a lot of new construction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   in the ever dynamic urban core that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   Adelaide that's going to dwarf all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   these buildings if that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   happening here yeah well not Toto be cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   one of the nice things about Adelaide is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50   it's not too tall like then they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   on purpose cousins you know pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   place we don't want all your big nasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   skyscrapers nothing worse than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   skyscraper the pinnacle of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58   achievement you don't want that Natalie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   now don't get me wrong don't get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   wrong you know I do love a good skies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   mate but the funny thing is I'm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   saying come on someone help me out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   job when I was the Civic reporter at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   Adelaide Advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   was actually going to the Adelaide City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   Council archives and looking at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   planning applications and getting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   all out because I would report on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17   know new buildings that were going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   built so I am the man to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   but unfortunately I'm just too far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   from Adelaide now so you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   do it for the love of journalism brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   go fly down and do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   investigative reporting yourself to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   this out no you don't want to do oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   maybe maybe we considered a Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   this is a sort of a mission to go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   to Adelaide measure some buildings I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   feel like there's got to be a video in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   this somewhere for you Brady right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   your building file channel or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   like somewhere there's a YouTube video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   of you going down to Adelaide to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   these two buildings that are next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   each other there's got to be a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   that you have to put that off or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   book I'm writing will hook up publishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   down out the comprehensive history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   the muddy black stuff from when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   just a twinkle in someone's eye right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   through to when it was finally surpassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   as the tallest building in Adelaide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   somehow this feels like an inevitability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   I'll just wait for the publication I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   don't know I guess a lot of Tim's would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   buy it but other than that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   there's going to be an obviously like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   building manager of the building might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   but the one who thinks I'm crazy after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   gave him a t-shirt really I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   this is a project that you're doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   the money I think this is a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   you're doing for the love and I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   interject that all right this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   passion project of yours mighty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   stamp watch this space come on let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   pull together here wisdom of the crowds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   and all that let's figure this one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   speaking of architectural marvels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   have been written into hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   law I am going to Dulles this weekend oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43   are you I am I'm flying to Washington no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   not even this weekend I'm in two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   time from when we're speaking Brady you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   exhaust me with your seemingly from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   perspective constant flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   know that I have a like a selection bias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   here that I hear about all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   your fly so it feels more frequent than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   it probably really is but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   like you are constantly John ting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   different areas of the world to film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   things to go on vacation for exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   travels to meet Russian poets you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   just doing amazing things around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   world constantly and I feel like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   never keep up well at this point I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   interject and correct you and add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   clarification but you just made me sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   so awesome that I'm just going to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   that fly ya know just let it slide man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   it's totally fine and this is how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   are in my mind you're like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   modern adventurer except with airplanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   with the amount of traveling that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   the Russian poet thing was a nice touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   as well it made me feel that Lord Byron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   or something I'm just describing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/573">TS</a>]

00:09:37   life to you man that's all I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   that's not how my life feels but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   cool I'm just gonna keep going I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   going to Washington for the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   math festival Oh as part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   numberphile and MSRI responsibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51   I'm looking forward to doing a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   live shows with Matt Parker and the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56   exciting one with cliff style the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   Klein bottle guy he's also good value so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   I would spend more time promoting it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   by the time this podcast has gone out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   will have been in God and then I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   to Miami where I've never been before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   for a brief holiday and then I'm coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   home but the thing I want to know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   you is how to prepare myself for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   Dulles experience because I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   sure this is going to be my first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   there what do I look for what do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   like talk me through it well it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   depends on where you're getting in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   presume that you're going to be landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   in the international terminal because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30   get tweets from people who are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   I'm in Dulles it's not so bad right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   that's the voice that they're using in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   my head when they tweet those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   yeah and that is because they are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   domestic a B terminals terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   terminals the old terminals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   inconsistent heating and low ceilings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   and smelly carpets is the CD terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/645">TS</a>]

00:10:49   which are generally used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:49   international flights so I'm gonna guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   that you're probably in there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   now can we remember off the top of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   head one of those gates was a cursed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   gate where an accident took place on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   previous episode hello Internet well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   loop that up yeah we got to find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   out Brady so that's obviously one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   tourist spots that you need to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   point at that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   to be on your list Thank You Fido of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   yep yeah now it's funny that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   mentioned this because I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   verified this I'm going to be relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   your journalistic skills to verify this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   I have just heard today breaking Dulles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/678">TS</a>]

00:11:22   news that the at transports are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   longer in operation at that Airport oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   yeah I don't know if it's true I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   verify this firsthand I'm going to rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   on you to let me know what the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   is down there with what happened did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   Luke Skywalker cut a hole in the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   I want to throw a charge into it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   okay Disney was like you need to pay as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   licensing rights for you things one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   the two I know that there has been a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   bunch of redevelopment work at Dulles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   try to take it from worst Airport in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   world to just marginally acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   Airport in the world and as part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   I saw a construction on some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   train transport between the terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   last time I was there and so I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   heard that that is now done and those at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   transports might be over which quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   frankly I'll be a little sad about if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   that is true because it was by far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   away the most remarkable and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   interesting thing at Dulles Airport and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   now even that will be gone which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   it even less interesting I'm gutted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   was so looking for that was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/738">TS</a>]

00:12:19   thing I was looking forward to I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   it's the only thing a person can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   forward to at that Airport I hope I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   wrong I'll hear about that from you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   the future otherwise no the best thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   can tell you to do is if you're landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   there just get out as fast as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   after visiting the cursed gate at Dulles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   Airport Hara I'll let you know how a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   I'll report back with the pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   all that sort of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   pointing pointing pictures speaking also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   of sort of breaking news of things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   like to follow and again I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   bit in the dark here but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   potentially huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   hmm CGP grey the penguin the lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/771">TS</a>]

00:12:55   penguin right if you have a look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   link that I've put there in the notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   apparently Bristol Zoo where CGP grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   the penguin lives hmm has sent 19 of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   young South African penguins to Tbilisi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/785">TS</a>]

00:13:09   is that how you pronounce it capital of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   Georgia oh yeah two Blissett I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   familiar with Tbilisi that is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   how you pronounce a 19 penguins have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   been sent there to the penguin pool at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/796">TS</a>]

00:13:20   Tbilisi Zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   mm-hmm they had some problems there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   recently with flooding and the zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   suffered a lot of damage and animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   losses along with human losses and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   of because Bristol is sort of the sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   city of Tbilisi the zoos are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   friendly so these penguins have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   sent and if it's a young South African [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   penguin and 19 of them have gone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42   know I'm thinking are you telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   that CGP grey the penguin might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   died in a flood and I Georgia is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/825">TS</a>]

00:13:49   what you're telling me this article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   you've sent me says two hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   eighty-one of the zoo's thousand plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   animals died in this disaster now grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   the penguins have been sent after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   flood to help restock the zoo okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04   that's less alarming yes sorry other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   animals I are not named after me I care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   much less about your well-being so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/849">TS</a>]

00:14:13   I'm saying is I don't know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   possible that grey has left the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   this is going to make it much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   difficult for you to keep up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   regular and ongoing correspondence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   CGP creator penguin that you have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   diligently maintained low these past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   years and months keeping the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   updated on what she's up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   you've been so diligent about it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   going to make that a bit more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   but I'm sure you'll keep doing just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   good of a job as you have been doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   the future if she actually has left I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   was fondly sucking myself up to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   do this visit now maybe she's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   there I love that you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   yourself like oh you were psyching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   yourself up for this visit like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   just about to visit I feel like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   was a kid and my parents would yell at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   me to clean my room I always had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   feeling like ah I was just about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   write but there's no way I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   just about to like now that I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   told to do a thing like you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   reverse memory of like I was just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   to why'd you have to bother me so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   kind of think you were just about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   visit this penguin you only feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   way because now there's a possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   that you can't okay that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   isn't it really frustrating at those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   times when you were just about to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   something and then you get told to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19   and you know no I really was just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   to do it but how do you distinguish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   feeling from just the constant feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   and what it does happen right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   this is like a false memory you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   when you were really going to do it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   anyway ctp gray the lady penguin wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   tag number a 205 83 mm-hmm I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/932">TS</a>]

00:15:37   where she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/937">TS</a>]

00:15:37   it's been a holiday here in the UK since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   I found out the news frustratingly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   been a four-day holiday over Easter as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   can't contact anyone at the zoo but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   we need to get on this I think the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   exciting thing is for some Tbilisi Tim's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   with a zoom lens to go out to the zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   and try to find the lady penguin CGP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   grey out there if they can I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   that's what should happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   Tbilisi Tim's you were called upon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   this moment you weren't expecting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   yeah but we're relying on you so put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08   hold that trip to Adelaide you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   doing to survey the muddy black stump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   and first of all head to your local Zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   and check out the Penguins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   I mean I'd feel a bit sad if they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/975">TS</a>]

00:16:16   there and it turns out grey hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   moved but that's part of it that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   of it just go carefully catalog all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   the serial numbers of all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   Penguins and let us know let us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   what the situation is I wonder if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   kept its wing tag and number or it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   to get like a tbilisi wing tag with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   new number and the other ones been cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   off I don't know hmm feels like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37   should be some sort of international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   identification number system for zoos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   transferring animals back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   otherwise like if you're loaning a zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   an animal how do you know if you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   same one back if you're allowed to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   off the tags I feel like those tags have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   to be the same everywhere good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51   they don't let they come on and off very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   easily either but they must come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   there because presumably the wing grows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   and they need to put bigger tags on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   don't know there's a lot of unanswered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   questions here I really we're rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   wandering into like meat security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   questions here's like somebody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   it's their job to deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   technology behind the tags on a penguin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   fake and they're like screaming at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   podcast right now I thought the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   to this question I do this all day this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   is the third podcast this week I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   heard get that wrong speaking of animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   orgies snoring a bit so I'm just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   give her a little nudge with my foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24   stop snoring stop it oh I'll send you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:28   the tibula see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   oh poor Audrey I would never do that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1050">TS</a>]

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00:19:17   I may have complained a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   the way Kindles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   format the text on screen I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   if this sounds familiar to you or not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   was a minor annoyance of yours I seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   recall there was a minor annoyance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   was like a dagger in my soul every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   I tried to use a Kindle yeah so much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   that I eventually abandoned my beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   Kindle and went over to iBooks because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   knows how you're supposed to format text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   on a screen and Kindle did not well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:49   would be remiss if I did not mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   that remarkably as of yesterday a mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:56   several decades after Kindles have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   out they have finally released an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   that allows a reader to have a ragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:05   right on their text to left align all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1205">TS</a>]

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00:20:22   allowed the thing that I asked about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1222">TS</a>]

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00:20:29   if you have a Kindle people go update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1229">TS</a>]

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00:20:40   right ragged I remember where I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:44   was at home I had a Kindle and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   pressing the update my Kindle button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1247">TS</a>]

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00:20:50   update like update update update my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   Kindle was going like I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   you're talking about there's no software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   update available I was shaking my fist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   and like curse you CDN like this update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   hasn't been distributed yet to the UK or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   wherever it is in your Amazon network so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   actually like I like I want to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   right now so I went onto the kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   support page and like hard downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   the software update manually transferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   via USB over to the Kindle did like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   force reboot update of the device with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   like I need to see what this looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   first hand I can't trust people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   reports of how it looks I need to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   this for myself and the answer is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   looks like books are supposed to look so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   it's fantastic that sounds like quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   day you know sometimes I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   couldn't make up stories to make you fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   your stereotype any better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   actual stories that you tell what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   mean baby I could have made that up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   someone said make up a story that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   gray sound like really pedantic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   nerdy and into technology I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   have come up with a better story than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   the one you just told what about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   the manual update like who actually sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   looking to screen saying curse you CDM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:55   but that's what it is like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   haven't distributed the update to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   the networks yet I know I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   what happened I didn't want to wait it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   seems very straightforward to me okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   let's all thing and is this going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   result in you going back to Kindle here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   is the interesting thing the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   thing is why did I have a Kindle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   update in the first place because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   abandoned Kindle a long time ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   hated their old paperwhite Kindle hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   Amazon has been very slowly trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:22   make their typography better and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   the summer they introduced a precursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   to this which was actually hyphenating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   words correctly so they used to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   even break words at the syllable level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   on the edge of a page they used to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   have these horrific ugly gaps and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   wanted to see this past summer because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   have been making a real concerted effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   to try to read more books over the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47   year or so essentially to take time away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   from reddit and hacker news and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   divert that time war into books and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   was one of the things that when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   using Kindle years ago that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   liked is that I always found that having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   it as a separate device was helpful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   reading more as opposed to reading on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   iPad but I gave it up because I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   deal with the formatting so when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   introduced some slightly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   typography plus when they introduced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   latest version of the Kindle which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   the Kindle Oasis which actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   designed with revolutionary buttons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   turning the page and it's designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   actually to be a good ebook reader I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:27   thought I'm gonna give this a try like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   I'm gonna give you a second go here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   Kindle and see how it works and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   using it for the summer I was using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   for a little while I found that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   hyphenation alone did not make enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   a difference like it's still very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   annoying for the little narrator in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:41   head to be speeding up and slowing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   ever so slightly even if it was way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   better so I put it away reluctantly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   I was hoping that that Kindle experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   would work but it didn't quite take yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   but that's why I had it in a drawer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   so when I heard this news is like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   updating this right away so it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   happened yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   I've been reading a couple of books on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   the Kindle annoyingly Kindle for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   reason they don't do it with all books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   they only have this available for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   so you have to check in advance but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   going to give this a real go and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   use the Kindle again as a dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15   separate breeding device because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   really do think that is a big advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   plus it doesn't help that Apple has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   updated their software for iBooks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   like three years they've added no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   features and Kindle has very slowly been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   adding useful features over this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   none of them are deal-breakers on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   own but each one is like a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   addition so the Kindle is again an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   attractive option that I'm going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   a real try this time so I'm very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   about this well now that the Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   influencer CGP grey has been fully wooed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   I think it's your move iBooks what could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:51   i books do to get you back to iBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   here's the problem right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   iBooks always has one major disadvantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:58   which is that it's always going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   an iPad yeah and I do really like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   a separate thing I find it's nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   have a separate thing that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   physical reminder of oh you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   reading a book as dumb as that sounds I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   really do like that even when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14   traveling grind when you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15   argh on the pliant gotta pack my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   and my Kindle wouldn't it be better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   have one device it would be better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   terms of packing to have one device but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   it is that extra reminder that I find is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   visually there so it's more top of mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   that this is an additional thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   really do like that and iBooks is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   going to lose that battle in that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   always going to be able to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   else and I'm aware that when I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   on an iPad even on my like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   lockdown I can only do very few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   on this except read iPad I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   always tempted to like flip away and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   let me just quickly add something to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   little note that I have somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51   I'm still more likely to flip out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   whereas with a dedicated device I'm less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   likely to flip out of it so it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   a big advantage to Kindle I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   how books could do but it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   because I went back and I read that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:03   old article that I wrote when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   talking about originally switching from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   Kindle to iBooks and I made a note about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   how like Oh Kindles software development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   is glacially slow and so like I booked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   some obviously will be developed more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   quickly than that as like iBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   hasn't changed at all in that whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   that like turns out glacially slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   development is faster than nothing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   so iBooks is the tortoise like winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   this race against a hare that is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33   napping great as always there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:37   lots of listener emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   never really know which ones to put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   the show but I've got a couple here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   caught my eye that I tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   that's the right thing there Brady you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   don't mention how many because then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   can just cut them yeah sometimes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49   like oh I have exactly three listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   emails and I have to cut that sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   and then just have a number of listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   emails so this one came in from a Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:59   you two unveiled the world of podcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   me and I'm a long time listener to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   show now nothing compares to a long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   naughty episode of hallo internet I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   had my wisdom tooth extracted and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   guys made me bear this horrid procedure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   ever since I was a child I never liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   any form of surgical intrusion and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   those children who do it I can't say who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   are those people I'm sure there's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22   least one one weirdo but for the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   us now No thank you and I absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   despise disappointment at my dentist so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:29   what this Tim did was he listened to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   episode of hello Internet while having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   the procedure done thank you guys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   making my tooth surgery more tolerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   and please keep producing the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   most interesting podcast on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   and on vinyl this is some serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   sucking up going on here yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   gray wants proof and as my wisdom tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   had to be sawn into tiny pieces in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   to even get it out of the guns god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   sending you a picture of my medication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   instead of a shattered tooth and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   basically a picture of a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   medical things plus a phone listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   hello Internet as proof the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   found interesting though was this Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   also pointed out to the episode that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   listened to during the procedure I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   guessing you might be able to guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   it is no but it was episode 35 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15   entitled are my teeth real so very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:19   choice so great I had a question I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   going to ask you as a result of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   lesson but I don't need to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   because coincidentally we have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   email from another Tim this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   Australian Tim called Sandra mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   Sandra says user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   all my titles here so showing total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   respect dear dr. Brady hard as nails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   soft as cushions Herron this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   partial good yes I'll forgive that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   yes that was in the right place yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   and the dr. counts for a lot I know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   it's a bit like getting like an MBA or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   an OBE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:50   wrong you know softest cushions Pasha's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   cushions as long as cushions are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   there were okay so anyway this one from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:58   Sandra says I've just had my upper right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   wisdom teeth extracted tweet us if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   have a go wisdom tooth from oh no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   only tweet brady bleh pretty we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   lot of people listening to this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   the number people who are getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   wisdom tooth extracted right now is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   non-trivial number uh only tweet me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   you're having a wisdom tooth removed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   are in the chair and you are listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   to hello Internet yeah and only tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   brady no come on surely you would allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   tweet for that that's not how this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23   again didn't you learn haven't you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   from the tweet of me if you're not on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   plane debacle that will haunt us until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   the end of time yeah but then I open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   door for everyone surely my more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   detailed description there is gonna keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   it specific not as the podcast keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   growing man like we're getting into big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   numbers here so now I want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   real clear do I really admire your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   ambition that you're worried about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   number of people who are right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   sitting in a dentist's chair listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   to hello Internet anyway as I say and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   had wisdom teeth removed now the dentist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   made the offer to keep the extracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   tooth mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   Sandra declined instead I've donated my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   tooth to the student hospital for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   education purposes which I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02   know was a thing like I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   thought wisdom teeth were a dime a dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   anyway my question to you is whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   and gravy wants to answer have had your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   wisdom teeth extracted and if so did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   keep your extracted tooth you strike me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   I think as me Brady you strike me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   someone who would hoard his teeth kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   regards Sandra have you had your wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25   teeth extracted gray if you wish to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   answer I know you know your medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   records sir you're going business but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   think we can safely go into the wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   teeth territory yes I had one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   wisdom teeth removed hmm because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   causing a problem in the back of my gums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   I had one of them removed in retrospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   very sketch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   gee dentist office that was just up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   staircase on this high street and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:54   never forget that it was done so quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   and sort of without ceremony the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   it just made me have this done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   sounds Wow dodgy some back lined it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   in London I mean this is like 12 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   ago now I still do past that staircase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   every once in a while and I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   yeah I know there's a little man up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   there who pulls out teeth yeah I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   that spot is it like that dodgy guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   does your iPhone screen for ya and quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   or something I think that's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   what it was right yeah I would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   like a very poor student at the time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   it's like a discount dentist but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   remember it because the guy reaches in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   there and he's like wiggling around he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   seems to not be able to get the tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   out and he looks at me he goes I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   really lean into this one and before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   could do anything he kinda like got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   on top of me and just leaned like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   into this tool that was holding onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   tooth and it was the loudest most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   terrifying crack in my head that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   ever heard all right and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   playing crash chord is inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   you're asking this question that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   happens he got the whole thing out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   it was like he did it so quickly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   I think he knew I would object much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   sternly if I had a moment to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   what was happening and he's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   just gonna throw my body weight into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   this one buddy like that's how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   gonna get this tooth out so yes I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   one wisdom tooth removed and now since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   then what about you brain I bet you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   guy that doesn't like going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   dentist oh yeah of course not of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   not know who does Monda I don't Monda we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   mean you don't mind it I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21   always have quite pleasant experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   when I go to the dentist this is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   you live in this whole like Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   alternate universe where everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   friendly and things are always pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   I don't understand and we you are given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   the option to keep this tooth already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   already sold it to sell in some black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   market down the back lane or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   don't even remember if I was given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   option to keep obviously I don't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   why would anyone keep a wisdom tooth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   don't remember yeah if I was even given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   the option or if it was immediately sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   and as in somebody else's head in China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   now like I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   I have not had my wisdom teeth removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   I've never really had a bad dental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   procedure mm-hmm whether I'd keep it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   I probably would I don't know what I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01   do with it but what would you do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   why would you keep I don't know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   know about a year ago Audrey had to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   some teeth removed because she had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   teeth problems and I have got those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   teeth somewhere in my room in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   tiny little testing because they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   cute they like this look tiny cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   little dog teeth and she's got such tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   teeth or Dury they're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   little pinpricks do you take him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   every once in a while do you show them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   to Audrey no I showed my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   don't think she was particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   impressed I wonder is there anybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   could show these teeth to who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   particularly impressed I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   you're right I probably shouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30   kept him I think you can safely get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   of those Brady let's start the dehorning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   process with something small tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   Chihuahua gee that's a bad as small as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   you can start with exactly so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   go Sandra Grey has had it done quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:45   horrific we by the sounds of it and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   not keep the tooth and I have not had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   done and as you will keep the tooth do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   you know what I think maybe I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   oh wow I feel like we're making progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56   Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   I don't like teeth I don't like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   teeth look when they're not in a mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   and in gums like teeth when they're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03   and you see like all the roots and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   whole full horror of a tooth it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   quite as nice as when you just see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   part that sticks out above the gum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   they're not good looking things teeth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   don't like how they've got those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   little prong bits on the bottom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   yeah now now I wouldn't keep the roots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   that dig into your gums Brady that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   don't like to think about that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   like it your whole mouth is just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   full of pieces of calcium that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   roots that dig into your soft gums you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   don't like thinking about that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   you just said who would like Audrey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   teeth Sandra actually signed off her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   email as from Sandra fellow Aussie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   devoted hello internet listener and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   number for Audrey fan bracket after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   your wife and gray maybe that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   an appropriate gift to Sandra and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   get rid of the teeth Sandra if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   like Audrey's teeth let me know and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:51   get them shipped over to us for you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   had the crazy things I know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   will actually do this if it happens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57   just know what I'll take it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:01   however you're going to get rid of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   teeth whatever you need to do I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   that'll work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   I'll be happy if that's how they go I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   put them straight in the garbage but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   you feel they need to send them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   Australia that works too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   one last listener email this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16   okay you're gonna like this now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   big in it up Brady I'm confident you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   confident okay alright you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   really got to work if you big it up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   that well one of the few things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:27   know you do like that shows you're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   human side mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   at cute animals oh yeah I think you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   bit of a sucker for cute animals I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   you're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:34   cute animals now did do not move my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   metallic art what you does Audrey is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:41   very nice doggy this is from Rosie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   starts off dear Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   here's another things people do while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   listening to a chai story for you last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:50   I conducted wildlife surveys in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   Carrizo Plain National Monument in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   California we spent one month trapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   San Joaquin antelope squirrels a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   threatened species okay I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   send you a picture of what one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   sand will Queen antelope squirrels looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   like there has been sent advice quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09   name that's quite an infernal it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   here's a picture of one via Rosie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   this was taken by Rosie in Scituate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:29   we marked their bums with Sharpie okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:34   we will get there I was running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   ideas for symbols to do but since I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39   been marathoning AJ while doing some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42   our more tedious surveys I realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   could give a few of them a chai themed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   names so attached are some pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   squirrels named hello Internet Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:53   Haran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:54   CGP and nailing gear and just so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:58   see what we're talking about here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59   you about to send me pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   squirrel butts with names written on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   them yep here's the squirrel back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   b8 written on it for Brady Haran and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   then here comes the squirrel but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   cgp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10   written on it so basically these tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   squirrels quite largely have had these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   things done on them but best of all is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   the nailing gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   here is a endangered squirrel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   California with an ailing gear drawn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:25   its bum in sharpie I would describe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   as the rump of the squirrel is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   this is drunk this is not what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   imagining around the actual real butt of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   the squirrel right that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   expecting you sending me for pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   right this is yeah squirrel rump right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   not yet world but just a cipher work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   yeah exactly right yeah if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   listening to hello internet at work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   can safely click on this link and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   have to worry that your boss is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   come over in an opportune time and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   why on earth are you looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   photographs of scroll bot yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   say it's like a boss it's just the rump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   yeah it's just the rump totally safe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:03   work that nail in gear on little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:07   squirrel though that's very cute is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08   cute it is cool and also you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:12   sent you bits of paper where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   doing all the work anyway you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   impression how long do they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   track these squirrels for though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   that has to come off eventually is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   just a temporary tracking process that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   going on here I imagine I imagine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   anyway she finishes her mo with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   ironically CGP the squirrel ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   being a female just like the penguin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   that seems like this is the this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   it works when cgb is a different animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   I'm sure you can guess what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   one-sentence reply to Rosie was I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   well I wanted to know what the gender of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   Brady H I and Nalin gear were all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   okay so here's a little chart here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   little chart oh you can look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   yourself on the chat Brady's a boy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   prefer man but ok boy ha sorry yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   I don't think a male squirrel can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   man I think that's what can be a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   either look right because dogs dogs can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   be a good boy right but you would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   say to a grown up dog that he's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02   right right I do say to my dogs good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   girl I've never called them good woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05   yeah all right that'd be super weird so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   I just call them ladies though I do call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   my dogs ladies that's also fine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   you can see like oh hello ladies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   when the two of them walk in the room I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   think I sometimes sing all the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   ladies when they walk in the room okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   it's a little too much personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   information but that still works right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   that's what I'm saying if I'd sung it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   that would have been weird okay or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23   think you can address a pack of dogs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   guys right all of this works but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   think it works if we're going to a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   or a woman so I'm gonna stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   The Brady Haran squirrel is a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   squirrel what could we go mail or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   could say he's a mail squirrel that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:38   also true because that's what Rosie said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   Rosie said Brady was a mail so was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   chai and Nalin gear so the only lady was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:45   CGP that's fine I'm happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   that were right with that I know CGP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   grey the squirrel she's the one actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   making sure that there are more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   endangered squirrels in the future she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   doing the hard work yeah I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   argue with that thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   definitely have a look at these pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   of squirrel rumps in the show notes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   you are so inclined yeah if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   see squirrel rumps we've got some you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   come to the right point one hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:12   Internet I've never heard that podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   arts that one will they always talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   about squirrel rumps oh yeah I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   stuff I love those squirt room guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   they're awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   yeah who could have thought they'd get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   so many episodes out of it but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   yeah I can't wait for all of this follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   up in the future right nailing gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   squirrels spotted in the wild right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   someone's just walking around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   California they happen to be a Tim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   right by them runs a squirrel with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   and character on the rump like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:38   I'm never gonna believe this speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:43   things you would not believe mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   we have just passed another April Fool's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   Day why wouldn't you believe that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   comes every year I thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   nice segue you've just completely ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52   it was that a joke was there now's to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   a job but uh how was that anyway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   like things you wouldn't believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   April Fool's days telling people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   know making people believe things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   aren't real doesn't matter it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:04   I'm sorry Brady it's very clever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   was a fantastic segue there thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   thank you it's it's gonna give a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   man ten out of ten would say way again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   so April Fool's Day we've got to retire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:15   this thing thank God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   I know what a waste of time it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   feels like you've ruined it everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20   yeah right you have ruined it you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   too into this that now it's not fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   anymore do you know what's ruined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   gray what social media and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   corporatization yeah social media that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   a good one but I was going to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   companies getting on board yet now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   the worst I imagine there are businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   now that have whole departments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   dedicated to like next year's April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   Fool's Day joke mm-hmm and like April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   Fool's Day is not about that what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   true meaning of April Fool's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   I actually don't know what its history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:52   is and I don't need to know because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   the bloody subreddits gonna be full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:56   so I'm going to spend the next two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   basically immersed in the minutiae of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   how April Fool's Day came to be I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   care how it came to be I'm sure it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04   good story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   I liked April Fool's Day back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   when it was like a thing that maybe one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   newspaper would maybe do or like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   local TV station London something every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   few years and you know there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   classics but now it's just tiresome like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:20   what they need to do is that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   businesses and PR departments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   companies and people in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   news organizations that need to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   together and say alright this year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   can do one mm-hmm and no one else can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   it because when every man and their dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   is doing it all giggling to themself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   like a dad who's just told a dad joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   yeah we just did like oh yeah look what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:42   you just did and every single other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   person in my timeline just did go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   yeah you know what that's what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   it's like dad joke day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:49   yeah that's precisely what it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   like Oh Google has a video about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   Google Nome instead of Google home it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   like oh my god I can't deal with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   this is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   yeah yes it's like dad jokes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   corporations because real humor always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   has a little bit of like an edge to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   that's what makes it funny but a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   they don't want to have any edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   anything so which is going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   stupid pun right that's what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   gonna do and you also know they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   measuring their engagement with the joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   right last year's April Fool's Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   performance we had double the retweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   of this year's April Fool's Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   tweet that we did last year and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   like if anyone is going to be suckered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   in by some traditional day and a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   tomfoolery it's me and I bloody hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   yeah I'm actually kind of surprised that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   you're on this side of it I assumed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   were going to be on the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   this I've like a let's return to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   true meaning of April Fool's but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   actually somewhat surprised yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   you don't you don't want to go along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   with this non tastic tradition can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   stand get rid of it for the past several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   years I have taken April Fool's as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   annual don't go on the Internet at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   day and here's the thing in the past I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   occasionally would tweet about this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   I put up a little image like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   not going to be online today everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   like goodbye I recommend you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   same thing like just unplugged for a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   you won't miss anything but I was aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   this year that April fools again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   of social media it like it's it bleeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   into it's actually a lot closer to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   days like two and a half days yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   because you have people all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   world and the day after people are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   retweeting stuff from April Fool's so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   think in the future I might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   start quarantine in this day with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   whole week around it of like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   not going on the internet at this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   because everything is super dumb it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   super dumb and it's super frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   and the Internet's full of untrue crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   anyway in an era of fake news let's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   even start a fake news this is talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   about stuff that's wrong or stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   supposed to be a joke and this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   lasts forever - it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   newspaper story or an old TV telecast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   the BBC 40 years ago that went out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   was forgotten yeah or the fish and chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   was Repton this stuff hangs around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   forever as well yeah so it just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   this like legacy of that's not the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   yes it's not the old BBC broadcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   the spaghetti harvest yeah so guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01   everyday is April Fool's on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   in some way right where it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:05   filled with stuff that can't possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   real and trying to sort it out from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   stuff that isn't so yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   frustrating holiday if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   corporations being dumb I also feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15   it's a weird day where it's like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   have a permission to be like a jackass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   like this is a holiday that has almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   no redeeming characteristics at all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   not sure I'd call a holiday but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   you know yeah we put it we put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   pantheon of holidays right a st. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   Patrick's Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   Cupid's Day I don't think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   people that have like a day off April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   Fool's Day they like but anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   problem is every day has this done to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   because now like there's like so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   stuff there's so much Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   Facebook and there's so much PR and spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45   and stuff everything gets ruined and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   accept you know Christmas has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   ruined that's what Christmas is mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   and all these major holidays everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   jumps on but it seems like anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   comes up now gets destroyed like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   and another prime example that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   probably not as exposed to because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   don't have a mathematics YouTube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   but I do mmm and that's pi day this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:05   know 14th of March through 14 like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:09   that sort of got a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   traction a few years ago and like I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   up a couple of Pi Day videos and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:14   was a little fun thing but now just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   every man woman and their dog jumps all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20   over pi day as an excuse for publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   and attention and it's like ah I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26   want to pull off the internet now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   three days before in three days after pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   day because i obviously follow a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   math you people and stuff and like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   timeline facebook and that just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   a kind of issue around that time as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   this makes me laugh because i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   you are at the center of a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   kind of storm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   i have a hard time imagining anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   might be on the receiving end of more pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   day stuff than you is like if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:53   complaining about Oh hot stopper news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   like there's just too much of it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   time it's like well actually we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   the Nexus of all hot stuff is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   like a society-wide problem and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   might be a little bit of pi day for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   yeah it's like you're gonna be right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   the center of this anyway I proposed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:11   had enough but gah why I do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   mention one thing here though that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   would be remiss if I did not mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   which is that one corporation that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:23   think at least does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   interesting sometimes on April Fool's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:28   reddit they don't do jokes right they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:32   not doing some joke they don't release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   like a dumb feature that they pretend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   real but they have done little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   experiments on their user base sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   over April Fool's and the one that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   did this year was actually quite amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   and did cross my attention which was our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   place this big pixel art I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54   you saw this at all break yes I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:55   did I found it very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   so for listeners who are unaware reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   what they started on April 1st and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   let it run for I think 72 hours in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   end or something like that was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   created a blank grid there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   thousand pixels by a thousand pixels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   all of reddits users every 5 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   could color in one of the pixels any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:20   color they wanted over the 72 hours I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:24   have to say it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   very interesting thing to see different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   groups of people coming together to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   to represent their group on this piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36   of artwork that was being created this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   was a just a very interesting look into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:42   groups interacting with each other on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   the internet because it required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   teamwork didn't you would have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   okay everyone let's let tag at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   portion of the grid and use of all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   app credits or our time or our colors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   try and create this image and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   people might try and come in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   encroach upon it that's exactly like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   an individual user all you could do was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   just put down a pixel and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   plenty of people who were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   essentially defacing the image by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   putting down random color pixels all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   over the place but then there were much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   bigger groups that we're trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   like we will defend the American flag in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   the center of this image right but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   order to do that we need to convince a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   couple thousand people to keep this tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   open in the background on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   computers and monitor the American flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   and change all the colors to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   match there was a group that was calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   themselves just the Void who was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   to black out the whole canvas and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   really interesting like people have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   together time lapses of what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   with this image over time and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   see like these factions coming and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   and like the void is growing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   expanding and then people are working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   push back the void and is I found it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   very very interesting thing and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   course the most interesting thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   that the listeners of hello Internet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   huge number of Tim's that there are were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   able to secure a corner of the place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   hello Internet and so there's our logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:04   and not insignificant gray they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   really good job type they did a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   good job it is not just a tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   thing like it's a decent little chunk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   this thing it's multiple images like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   have our faces we have Flags rebel flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   maybe but they're our rebels so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   okay yeah it was really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   see and especially because this didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   really cross my radar until just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   maybe only two hours before the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   thing was going to shut down so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   to give total credit to our audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   that this was 100% arranged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:35   accomplished just by them but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   anybody listening I got put some links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:39   in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   of some of the time lapses what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   final image looks like some close-ups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   the hello Internet section yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   think this was a very interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   that occurred on the internet that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   connected to April Fool's and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   probably the best April Fool's related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   thing I have ever seen because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   actually interesting it's got nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   do with April Fool's gray though other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   than they did it on April 4 yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   think I wouldn't count that as April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   Fool's but I thought it was cool I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   we have to talk about this one red pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   they approached on our little territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   and someone put a little red pixel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   the little H eye section of the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   that unfortunately was there when it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   shut down so it's there for eternity how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   do you feel about that oh but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   totally fine with that right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   that's what this thing is like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   that red pixel is an indicator of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   this project was right where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   there are some people who are working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   against the coherence of the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   thing but I love this stuff because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   as much trouble as we give Wikipedia I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   think Wikipedia is a testament to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   fact that although people don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   think it most people are good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:47   helpful right the a thing like Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   could never exist if most people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:53   what sometimes it seems like most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   think anonymous people are which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:58   a bunch of jackasses out to ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   everything right and it's like if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   weren't willing and able to coordinate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   and work towards the better good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   something like our place could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   have happened at all it would just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:09   big massive noise but the fact that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:13   people just want to see the world burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   that's part of the experience of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   Internet but overall people wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:21   work together and be good is a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   part of it so I feel like I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   fine with that red dot that red dot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   almost symbolic of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   coordination triumphs over chaos so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   have no problem with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   there's also tradition I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   Far Eastern tradition amongst the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   of famous old rug makers who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   stitch these incredible huge rugs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   they put one stitch in the rug that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   mistake deliberately and that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   reminder that only God is perfect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   can't make a perfect rug cool so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   that's a imperfect stitch as well I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   it I have to say it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   interesting to see the final image I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   think people should really take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   at it watch the time lapses they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   interesting and I have to say if I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   pleased and surprised that our audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   was able to coordinate and accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   this thing all on their own it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   impressive it's very impressive speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   of our audience in Tim's I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   say a quick hello to the surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   high number of Tim's that I bumped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   at VidCon in Amsterdam European VidCon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   oh did you go which I mentioned I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   going to I didn't know you were going oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   and although gray is playing coy Gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27   was there as well or was I you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   know there you were there I had a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   good time mainly because I liked hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   out with you and some of our friends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   had a really good time doing that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   did the things I had to do I did a talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   on the first morning and I also went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   along and did a little workshop with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   some Tim's who had the surprise of gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   coming along as a special guest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   actually agreed to come along and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   with me which was very kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   I was strong-armed into coming along by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   an unprepared Brady is how I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   describe the situation you absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   would not strong-armed I said it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   be lovely for you to come along be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   nice surprise for the people who came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   but you under no pressure and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   completely up to you I said I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   you to do it but if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   absolutely no problem I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   ostia I think you were curious I will in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:18   public allow you to indulge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   delusion how things went on it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   personal experience of how it went down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   but no you did strong-arm me into going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   into a thing and yes I was there at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   VidCon in the end much to my surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   what did you think of it I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   haven't been to the big American VidCon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   for years so I always forget that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:36   yeah what was your overall impression of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   VidCon Europe any sort of just quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   executive summary I feel like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   the worst person in the world to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   give an executive summary of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   things because I am I am going in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   strange way I feel like I am going as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50   tourist who is interested in this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   in a very abstract way because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:57   there as a creator learning how to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   in the industry I'm also not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   is one of the creators who like you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   actually doing presentations and has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   onstage presence so I always feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   very much like an odd man out at VidCon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:16   I feel I feel very much like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   really supposed to be here I'm here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   just observing this like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   anthropologist I just find it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   interesting experience I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   other people experience VidCon like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:31   think it's a very different thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   you're going on a stage I'm not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   how other people experience I'm asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   how you experience it but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   I'm saying like I experienced it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38   tourist like I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   interesting to see I'm always very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   interested in how big things get pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:46   off like I find it fascinating of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   how does this thing go from an idea in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   someone's head - oh there's thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:56   people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   and there are also sandwiches on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   table over there and all of this has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   be arranged somehow and it all seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   like it's just so far beyond the mind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   a single individual person and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   understand how its coordinated like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   always just find my mind being drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   towards that kind of stuff yeah and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   of these days I will get someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   in charge of VidCon like I will bully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:16   them into a corner and give them a pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   and be like draw for me the org chart on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   this napkin like I don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   all of this happens and I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   see on a piece of paper the logistics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   behind all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   I find that stuff very very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   I have got a quick sports book owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   gray ok well I've picked one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   think is relevant to you you always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   okay alright go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   do you have some story about a person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   that what you think is is relevant to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   yeah okay here we go great yeah nailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   it perfect 10 out of 10 10 attends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   fourth-wall corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:48   the topic is golf okay but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52   Masters golf which everyone is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   hoping I'm talking about which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   big tournament that just happened oh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56   that what everyone's gonna be hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   you're talking about yeah because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   watched the Masters and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   tweeting while I was watching everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   saying oh you got to talk to gray about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   this but there's nothing to talk to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   air about the Masters it was just a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:06   golf tournament mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   but what I want to talk about is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   tournament the week before I called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   aana inspiration which obviously is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   sponsors name but this is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   four May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   tournaments for women golfers and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:22   to tell you what happened on the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   day because I want to know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   think about this whether you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   is a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   and makes you happy and makes you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   with the world or you think it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   bit of a travesty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   this woman as you know it well as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   probably don't know typically a golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   tournament is played over four days you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   play the 18 holes over four consecutive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   days and whoever has the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   accumulated score is the winner right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   and this woman called Lexi Thompson was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:50   leading after three days and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   playing on the fourth day and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   still leading the tournament she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55   streaking away and was going to win the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   tournament it was clear she had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59   comfortable lead and then what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   was a TV viewer contacted the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:05   and the organisers of the tournament and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   said I was watching some footage from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   the third day and when this woman picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   up her golf ball from the green and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   cleaned the grass off it and then put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   back down where she'd put her marker she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   didn't put it in exactly the right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   it was like a few millimeters wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   there are very strict rules about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   this works with golf so the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:29   organizing the tournament went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   watched the previous day's footage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   yes she had reached this rule which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   think was so trivial it hardly matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   but anyway it didn't make a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   difference but she did technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41   breach this rule the penalty for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   that is a two-shot penalty mm-hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46   they gave her a two-shot penalty there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   another penalty in golf that if you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   your scorecard at the end of the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   the score is incorrect you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   two-shot penalty and cuz she designed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   scorecard that was now incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   although how could she have known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   otherwise she got another two-shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   penalty so she got this four shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   penalty they walk out to her on the golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   course and say because of what you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   yesterday which some viewers saw which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:08   we've now gone and found we're docking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   you for shots and she went on to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:14   the tournament in a playoff because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   this now I know that you're a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   TV replays and you think it's crazy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   TV replays aren't used in sport hmm so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   want to know what you think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   happening by the way one of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   is when you're leading the tournament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   you're getting filmed a whole lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   so you're much more likely to get caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32   doing this trivial little mistake mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   so that's one thing but a thing I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   to know is no referee saw it no one saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   it on the day no one associated with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   tournament Sora [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42   she was basically you know was a tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   tattle viewer sitting in their sofa at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   home hold on her you're showing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   hand there I think we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   objectively call this person a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   tattletale yes so I wanna know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:58   great a big butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   great a big butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   flavor and using of technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   replays and things in sport and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   a fair outcome feels about the story as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   I just told I will have an asterisk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   this the statement yeah but in general I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:11   would say what are sports but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:14   collection of rules yep if we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   going to say that we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   follow those rules all the time then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   what are we even doing here right why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   are we all together what is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   that's occurring yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   so if a viewer spotted a thing that none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   of the referee spotted and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   technically something she should not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   it doesn't matter by how little she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38   the thing that she should not do she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   a thing that she was not supposed to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:41   that was against the rules that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   encourages penalty and then she received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   that penalty I don't see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   problem is I think that viewer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   we could fairly describe them as a rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50   hero that's what that person is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   they're calling in doing their civic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   duty right doing a thing that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   has an effect in the world enforcing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   rules and taking someone who would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   I think again we can objectively say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   stolen a place in the playoff from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:10   somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11   and giving it to the person who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   won so I see no problem with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   think this is great okay all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   mean I also think part of roles need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   be who has the power to enforce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   rules and I think you have to draw lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   like the infringement has to be seen by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   the right person but is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   part of the rules it doesn't sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   that was part of the rules I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   they need to be Lions drawed like are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   gonna start going through like footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   from the 1950s and finding times where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   people broke rules and start like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   reallocating scores and trophies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   back through the ages I would do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   would happily do that I would take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   gold medal out of a retired Olympians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   hand and give it to the deserved winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   and I would feel good doing all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   right I would feel like I was writing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   injustice in the universe yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   holding on to it with like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:00   decrepit old claw like no this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   most meaningful thing I've ever done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:03   it's like no you didn't do it somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   else did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:06   give me that trophy and hand it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   actual winner and think about the joy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   the real winners eyes so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13   that person was a hero at home my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   asterisk is there's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   sounds like the second to stroke penalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   sounds a bit like I don't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   interpretation of the rules here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   tiredly that one pisses me off more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   anything that one I feel like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   go to the rule book on that one I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   I could be persuaded that that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   an overly harsh interpretation of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   this is supposed to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   yeah because presumably that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   knowingly signing a wrong card there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:38   something about that one that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   quite sit right with me but if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   didn't put the ball back down where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   was supposed to go it's like hey this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:43   your job you're supposed to put the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   back down in that spot and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   have a problem with the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:48   they're being filmed more like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   obviously everyone should be filmed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   the time but if the leader is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   filmed more than someone in the behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   areas it's like well this is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   the robber in Settlers of Catan right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   it's like a Hubble the leader effect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02   this is just what happens in this sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   okay I'm okay with all of this all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   I'm glad I brought it up I'm glad you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   cast a different light on the argument I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   mean do you disagree though do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   the tattle tale at home shouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   called in they should have just kept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   - well I'm not saying they shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   have called it you can't stop people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   call again if they feel guilty for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   rest of their lives for not writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   injustice but I do think is a wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   decision I don't think like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   arbitrariness of people at home who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   calls in and who doesn't the decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   have to be made by the decision makers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35   and I don't think people at home should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   be acting as chair referees I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:41   think it's right I'm also fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   having a rule that says at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:47   the day whatever happened becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50   unchangeable score like you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   that part of the sport and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   that be set down like hey listen we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   not going to adjudicate this overtime so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   that in 50 years CGP grey can come along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3837">TS</a>]

01:04:00   and steal gold medals away from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   winners and give them to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:02   right you can make that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   process but it sounds like this wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   part of the process for the Masters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   mean I agree with like you know drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:09   cheats and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   losing medals ripped respectively but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   do think this was wrong and that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16   two shots for signing the incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17   scorecard which even you seem to grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   as being a bit weird did cost her the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   tournament she would have won if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   wasn't for that even though anyway see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3866">TS</a>]

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01:05:03   effort to try to read more and not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   read more but also read differently so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   recently read a book that was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   bit out of the normal kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   I would pick up but that I can highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   recommend and it's tribe by Sebastian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   Junger he's the same guy who wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   perfect storm if you ever read that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   a little bit of a difficult book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:24   describe but I can briefly say that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   is a little bit about people in war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   particularly men in war and how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   affects them it talks about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   difficult things like why is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   some soldiers really find solace in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   being in a group in war and why they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   have difficulty reintegrating into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   society afterwards that makes the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   sound like it's a huge downer but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   actually found it a fascinating non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   downer read and it's also very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:53   which is the thing that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   appreciate in books sometimes so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   you're looking for a book to try maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3956">TS</a>]

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01:05:59   than what you would normally do give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3959">TS</a>]

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01:06:30   alright so the next thing we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   try to talk about is the news coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   that has surrounded YouTube advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   and a subsequent boycott and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   lot of stuff now gray and I have tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:44   to discuss this a couple of times before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   one of them made it to the show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   we've also tried other times and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   gotten a bit hot and bothered talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   about it because it always tends to veer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   into a discussion about our conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   views on journalism and news coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   and we've just thought that didn't go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:00   and we've cut it from the show but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   going to try again and we've also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:03   had a few conversations in person which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   we were any good recording but like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06   get caught in the vortex yeah of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09   topic so if this conversation seems a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   little strange listeners if it's made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   into the show just keep that in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14   this is like the fifth time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   Brady and I are actually going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   about Fitz so go so I've tried something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:22   a bit different because I can never make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:25   my points and I sort of I get confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   and heated and then we start putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   each other off and going down rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   holes so I've done is I've written like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   a statement or like an open letter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:37   think that's it I cannot believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   you have done this I find this hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   but I also feel like if I had known that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   you were really gonna write like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   opening statement I should have written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   opening statement too right and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   suddenly we're in court and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   I'm at a terrible disadvantage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   you were coming to the table with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   prepared statement and I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   walking up to the bench like no your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   honor I'm just defending myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59   I have no preparations I've got no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   papers with me and you're over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   with a team of lawyers right and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   already you're like no we're gonna fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   this so yeah well if it's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   consolation great it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   crafted document I did just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   hunt-and-peck this an hour before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13   show okay so it's a little bit rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   around the edges you would like to enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   a statement into the record yeah and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21   reason is not because I want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   another like argument about the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   but when we start talking about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   we're going to talk about which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31   know YouTube advertising and media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:32   coverage around ER I have criticisms to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   make of them of the media like yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   but I don't want to have to keep like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   adding little addendums or little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   qualifications and professing I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   people to know where I stand about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   journalism and how it's different to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   because I think most people know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:47   you stand I mean most Rauh know where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:48   stand - but you're setting up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51   framing because also you don't want me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   to respond to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54   opening statement right you just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:55   read it and then you wanna move right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   along I just keep my mouth shut I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   worried if you're too clever in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   response we're just gonna have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:02   old arguments but anyway I'll read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   and then you say whatever you are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   then we'll talk about what we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   to talk about it's a little bit long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:09   go right ahead sir enter your statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   into the record here we go Laura's yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   dear CGP grey haha no I didn't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:17   that okay alright I was like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   expect me not to say something if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   opening it with great addressing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   me okay I didn't say that they just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23   of addressed to you but it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   neutral okay I want to say a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   about news and journalism before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   lost in the weeds this is because as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33   know I get a little frustrated by some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   attitudes to news reporting I'll preface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:38   all this by saying I'm aware we probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41   agree on more things than we disagree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   and not everything I'm about to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   necessarily reflects your views it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   more general than that so please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   think I'm putting words in your mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   I'll also try not to use the word media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:55   too often because that's so nebulous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   that it seems to confuse matters I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59   opt instead for journalism and reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:03   but let me start by making mention of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06   nephew he's 19 years old he's a good lad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   but he has never read a book not one he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:12   claims he thinks they're boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   reckons he can get everything he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   from other sources mainly YouTube and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   snapchat it seems I can understand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22   why would anyone do anything they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   boring I guess I could argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   exercise is boring eating healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   vegetables is boring that we do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   things for our own well-being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   reading a book could be the intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   equivalent of a session at the gym but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   as I'm someone who doesn't eat very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   healthily or exercise enough that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   be a bit rich and it does sound kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   lame anyway so why do I even mention my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:46   nephews refusal to read books because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   the emotion it incites in me is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   similar to the emotion I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   people who willfully ignore the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   while their reasons and motives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   different I think this kind of willful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   ignorance and an accompanying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   broad-brush generalization that so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   goes with it really frustrates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   so let's deal with the reasons I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   we should pay at least some attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   news to journalism to reporting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   events that are happening in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   communities and the wider world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17   the first reason I think is just being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:21   good caring empathetic citizen most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:25   us live on a road or community with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   few dozen people a city or a town with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   hundreds of thousands of other people a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31   planet with seven billion other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   now you may not be directly affected by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37   their hardships their struggles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   events in their lives but I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   part of the human experience to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   about and share some of this yes it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46   be overwhelming and we can't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   take it all in but slamming the door on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   their plots because we don't care or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   makes us feel bad while we're eating our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54   evening dinner is a sad state of affairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57   I really think this is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:00   important reason of all to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   awareness of news because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03   fellow men and women and we should care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   about them we should care about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:08   I think it's selfish and it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   kind of person I want to be to only care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   about things that directly affect me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16   the way and I guess this applies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   people who are a bit more social but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   also think it's just good practice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   know about the two or three biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:22   things that are going on at a given time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   just for like social reasons just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   show you're a person who's aware of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28   bigger picture in your town or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   country or on the planet just so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   not the guy or the girl the watercooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   who doesn't know that London Bridge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   falling down but another more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   reason I think we need to pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   to journalism is because a well informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   citizenry is pretty important to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   people in power can exploit us knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:47   what governments are doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   political leaders are doing what courts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   are doing what the police are doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   big business is doing the Fourth Estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   our reporters play a key role in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   accountability public opinion is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   important to people in power whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:02   it's polls elections or consumer habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05   and I think it's important that public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   opinion is based on factual information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08   not misinformation or no information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:12   where that factual information will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   from if not from journalists is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   something I don't know it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   won't come from the governments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   businesses themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   and I can't see anything in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   social media taking the place of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   old-fashioned journalism if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   much of what I see happening on social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   media seems to be a step in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   direction now clearly this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   someone listening might be thinking well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   journalists hardly do a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   providing useful or factual information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:38   and yes I was once a traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:42   newspaper and TV journalists and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   some skin in this game but I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46   blanket dismissal of journalists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   large media organizations is silly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:51   as silly as my nephew arguing that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   books are boring or saying that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   YouTube videos are frivolous or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   politicians are corrupt etc etc yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:00   there are bad journalists and bad media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   organizations citing the examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   certain rolling news channels or some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   Britain's scummiest tabloid newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   are easy pickings but there are also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   lot of good journalists a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:13   newspapers good news websites good TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:16   news programs yes even the good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   have their faults and they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   held to account for their misdeeds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   this dismissal of journalism because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   those easy targets is well lazy now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:29   not saying that we all have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   appetite for news that we should all sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   around and consume news for hours each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34   day I'd even argue that my own news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:37   appetite is quite low much of the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   really only skim a newspaper for 5 to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   minutes over my breakfast and maybe dip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   into a website in a quiet moment just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   see what the few top stories are I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   also not recommending what sources of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:50   news and individuals should use everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   has their own preferences trusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   sources and stylistic preferences but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   think a willful decision to avoid news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   is unhealthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00   it's a fast-tracked uninformed citizens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   who care about no one but themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   see the world only through the prism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   the Select people they've decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   follow on Twitter and Facebook or which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   subreddit silos they've decided suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   them best it results in public opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:16   and beliefs maybe even elections being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:19   decided by people who are ignorant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21   now journalists are easy punching bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   like politicians I guess and they do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   deserve a free pass there are some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   good ones some very bad ones and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   just average ones they're also employed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   by organizations with conflicted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   interests barrows to push this can color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   their coverage from time to time and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   need to see this I've certainly picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   on journalists plenty of times here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   hello Internet there are frequent source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:44   of my paper cuts but I think the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   the Fourth Estate is important ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:50   them to the point of extinction is a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   situation and I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   world will look like without a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55   media my last point is this and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:59   never expect someone like you gray to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:01   change your mind and suddenly become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:03   someone who consumes news anymore than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   can expect my nephew to suddenly start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   reading books or me to start eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   salads but influential people dismissing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   the merits of the press even indirectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   by being a little too proud of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   information light diet worries me we now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19   live in a world where numerous people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   positions of power have made it their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   modus operandi to discredit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   undermine trust in the media because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   this suits their own agendas it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   reached almost farcical proportions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:32   way some people assume every utterance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   on TV or every word in the newspaper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   a lie journalism is certainly at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   crossroads and it's a messy problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   involving changing technology shifts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   advertising and a strange political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   climate at the moment I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   necessarily our job to advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   subsidized or save journalism it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   evolved as a business and maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   how it would die but I do feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   there's a little more to the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58   journalists than just filling the gaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   between advertising and as my buddy here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   on the podcast is known for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   little disparaging towards the media I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   wanted to have my say too to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   think it's a good thing anyway now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   said all this I would like to get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   with the show and give a kicking to The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   Times of London your opening statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18   has been entered into the record reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:19   obviously there are many points that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:23   would choose to disagree with of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   but I was intentionally keeping my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   out the keyboard and not making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   point-by-point analysis or noting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32   points where I feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   conflating two different issues I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   ask you one question which you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   want to answer okay but I'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   curious about with regards to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   statement let's say a listener to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   podcast had at some point followed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:48   advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:49   and had stopped following the news and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:52   was moved by your opening statements to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:56   come back into the world of news hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   where do you think they should start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:04   with that because I do find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   interesting that you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   mention any particular source and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   understand very many reasons why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   might not want to do that yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17   feel like that comes to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   feeling that I have sometimes of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:23   do you think they should go if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:27   moved by your statement yeah I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   reason that I would answer that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   because I don't want to get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32   kind of mix in a way I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   different for everyone I would say there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   are certain newspapers I guess that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   people refer to as papers of record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   which of newspapers which supposedly are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   a little bit less politically biased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   which are hard to find in the UK but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:48   know that they're around so I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   maybe you know newspapers are websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:52   that have less of a political agenda I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   guess is one thing I could maybe suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:58   but I think there are lots of options I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   don't want to start recommending it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   because I think this is what we do we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:03   get lost in the weeds and we can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:06   examples of where people have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:07   things up and I think people need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   find their own way and their own sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   I'm genuinely I am not trying to trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   you here I know you know I'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   to get you to name a name and then up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   and then I'll point to a story that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:18   thought was terrible that they did yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   what I'm trying to get at here is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   think this is a vastly more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:26   task than it sounds when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   something like oh people should read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   newspaper of record because for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   like me like that doesn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35   mean anything like I don't know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   papers you you mean by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   and again I understand why you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:42   want to recommend something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:43   particular I'm imagining someone who may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:47   have taken my advice in the past to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   disengage from the news cycle who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   looking for a reentry point and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   wanted to know if you had a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:53   place that you would recommend that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   start I have an answer for than if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   don't want to give one I'm just curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   as to your feelings on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   I feel like I don't want to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02   discussion today on it which is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   bit of a cop-out I feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   you gave me a lot latitude you let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   have my say and you didn't slap down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   things you disagree with and for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   now like go further and start going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   the weeds that I was trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   would be a bad idea but I do think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:17   should tell people what your advice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:18   no people are gonna know right I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   recommend they read The Economist right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   because when we had a now long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:25   deleted conversation the news yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:29   don't really follow the news but we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   have a subscription to The Economist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   my house and as I've mentioned before my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   wife reads The Economist and she often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   recommends articles to me out of it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   and I did on a couple of Sundays just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   make an effort to say like oh I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:40   just read The Economist again just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   little bit more than I normally would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44   just picking it up and going through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   and it can just reconfirm to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   like as a person who does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50   interest in following the news who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:54   argue that on an individual basis it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:55   might not be the best thing for a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   to do I do think that the Economist is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   pretty great job of reporting on stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:02   in a way that is accessible for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:06   who doesn't necessarily have background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:08   information I think I've mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10   previous on the podcast but one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11   do love is their style guide is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   always write articles assuming that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   person has essentially no background so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   they always explain what everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:19   you never feel like you're lost and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   feel like they do a pretty good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   hitting things down the middle and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:25   own research anyway I have yet to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:26   across any major howlers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:29   Economist in the way they report things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   unlike just about every other place I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   ever gone where it's like oh this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   interesting story when you dig into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:36   turns out to be entirely misrepresented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   so if people are looking for a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   enter the news I would recommend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   economists use offer code gray for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:46   discount at all because this isn't an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   but you know telling gray sent you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:52   let's talk about the actual issue at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   hand yeah so what we want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   is this ongoing brouhaha that is related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4916">TS</a>]

01:22:00   to the news and is related to youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   and advertising which was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:05   started by the very article that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:08   first brought up on the podcast a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   episodes ago which I foreshadowed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:12   becoming a big deal yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   which is in the times was it yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   Times of London Times of London yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   I do just want to enter it on the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   that I had not read that article when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22   were discussing it on the podcast it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   a bit of a surprise to me so I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   gone through it and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   slightly coloured the conversation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   we had because I would have been vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:33   more angry had I actually read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   because I think that article is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   perfect example of how news stories I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:39   think sometimes intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:42   misrepresent situations but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:45   putting that aside so we don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:46   sucked into the weeds hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   The Times did an article describing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:51   on YouTube there are advertisements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:55   are shown against extremist content and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58   this has since snowballed into what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:03   think we can fairly described as a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06   for YouTube there have been advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:10   big brand advertisers that have pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   out from advertising on YouTube lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15   people can see it in the data event ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   rates on YouTube have gone down this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   actually something that I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   directly in my own channel and on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   video the most recent one that I put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   is at about 20 percent of the rate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28   I would expect it to be under normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:29   circumstances some entire channels have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   been demonetised or very close to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:36   demonetised for having advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   unfriendly content this has turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:40   a very big brouhaha that YouTube seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:45   to be having a hard time getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   from under and the newspapers seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:51   keep liking to report on that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:54   this the state of the situation right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   now would you say yes I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   pretty fair summary okay I guess my more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:03   emotional reaction to this and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   feeling about it is I am infuriated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   this whole topic because I view this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   a self-serving storm that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:15   traditional news industry is cooking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:18   that works tremendously in their favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:21   and that is essentially a total non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:24   problem on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   but that they can use to constantly hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:30   and berate YouTube over like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:33   question of the massive amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   content that is uploaded to YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   there is always going to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   that someone is able to point to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   objectionable that YouTube will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:45   able to remove immediately I view this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   as a kind of problem that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:50   intrinsic to the medium and is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:53   going to go away but the scale of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:58   problem is never reported in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59   stories so all of the examples I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   see are examples on videos with very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:06   view numbers on channels that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   essentially not watched and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   brought up as examples of oh look how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:13   big companies like Pepsi are funding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   terrorism through YouTube and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   never any context of scale given to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:20   that's my frustration is when I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   see these things it seems very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   these stories are not intended to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   vehicles to well inform the public of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30   how the YouTube advertising system works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33   and how this process is happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:36   how an advertisement might end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   front of a video that it doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   be in front of there's no elucidation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   this it's just entirely presented as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45   like YouTube is facilitating the funding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   of terrorism with big brand money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:51   find that incredibly frustrating it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   frankly causing needless economic harm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:58   irresponsibly I do you want me to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   with the parts where I disagree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   or the parts where I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   you start wherever you want man well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:07   let's get the disagreements out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   way I guess mmm first of all let's admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:12   we have a big conflict of interest here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   you just said yourself you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   very affected by this so we need to bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19   that in mind you know this is hitting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   in the hip pocket and obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:24   conflict of interest for the newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   starting with The Times which is owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   by Rupert Murdoch and you know it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:31   picked up by lots of other papers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:32   who I think have seen the opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:33   this conflict is massive mm-hmm and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:37   finding it rather tiresome they flogged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   the dead whore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:40   way too hard to the point where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   thinking come on enough enough and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:45   I don't know you probably don't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46   this but in recent days it's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   switched to Facebook they've said gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   that worked better than we thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   now they're targeting Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   they're looking for examples of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:54   pedophiles on Facebook and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   other stuff so that's really funny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   feel like shock surprise there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   it's like Google and Facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   something like 80 percent of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   advertising money spent on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05   are spent on those two websites yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07   was like oh you turned your attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:08   Facebook yeah color me shocked nice oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   I'm a little jaded and cynical about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14   hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:15   and I'm also rather jaded and cynical by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:18   how they keep referring to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   investigations they're doing I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:23   don't think they have done like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:24   undercover investigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   they probably used Google ironically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   they've just basically searched for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   extremist content I mean anyone can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   this like this is not an investigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:32   they've just like done something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34   any five-year-old could do in ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37   minutes yes so like digging themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   up as these like people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   uncovered some mystery frustrates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:44   somewhat and the reporting of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:47   it's an area I know quite well and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   know quite well some of the reporting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   it has been not as thorough accurate as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:54   it could have been so I'm quite upset by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   the generous description but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:59   some of the things you're arguing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01   and some of the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02   upsetting you not the point and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:07   you're kind of getting lost in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:11   minutiae of the details and ignoring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14   problem that does exist if I can go off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   on a tangent for a second this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   you remind me of at the moment there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   an episode of the TV show The Office the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   British office in which there's a pub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   quiz that goes to a tiebreaker mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   the two guys have to stand on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27   opposite each other and they have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   the answer first whichever one of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   says the answer first wins yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   says a quote from Shakespeare and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   guy says that and gets it wrong but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:37   he just keeps naming play after play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:38   after play trying to get it right and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   he keeps getting it wrong and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   the other guy says the right answer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:43   he wins and then for the next couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:47   minutes the guy who was saying answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:50   after answer and got told off for saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   too many plays gets into this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54   argument with the quizmaster about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   never said I could only say one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   that's why I was saying lots and lots so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5338">TS</a>]

01:28:59   I didn't break the rules no rules were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   broken you know you never said that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   he's ignoring the fact he never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:04   said the right answer mm-hmm and it's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07   it doesn't matter anyway and he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   busy arguing over the minutiae of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   rules Rose ignoring the fact he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   know the answer then he lost the quiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   anyway hmm and I feel a bit like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16   that guy you're so busy worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:19   the fact that they gave the wrong number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:22   for the amount of money or they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   explain very clearly how the advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   algorithm works and that you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   ignoring the fact that money that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:33   belongs to a company is ending up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:36   pocket of people who've uploaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   inappropriate content to YouTube that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   the problem and how it happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   whether it flowed through an auction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   system or whether Joe Bloggs knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   the money was going to end up here or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   not and whose fault was it and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   it was a bot or a human mm-hmm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   isn't really the argument here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:53   argument is there was money that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   belongs to Pepsi to use your example and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:57   now that's in the pocket of someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   puts something deeply wrong on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:02   internet and they've been rewarded for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   it with money that once belonged to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   Pepsi and that's what's upsetting Pepsi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   yeah oh yeah so I saw you uploaded your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   video about how YouTube auctions works I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:13   mean it could be a coincidence but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15   feel like you must have been motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   or sped up by this recent controversy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   you felt like this was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20   needed to be explained more clearly oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   yeah that was a video uploaded in anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   yeah and you did a good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:25   explaining how the system works you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   well done it was a really nice video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29   I think it's completely irrelevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   this 2-bay and it changes nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   well yeah I didn't really want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   about this debate I wanted to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   a thing that I think is important which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38   is the understanding that humans are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   assigning these ads and I also just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43   to just agree emphasized there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   enormous amount of content but no I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   that video because I've as with all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   videos I feel like I want this to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:50   beyond this particular debate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:53   which will go away eventually of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   but I think it's completely irrelevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57   that like humans don't do it YouTube are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5457">TS</a>]

01:31:01   the enablers googler the enablers well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   they've done it with an algorithm or 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:05   people in a call center in chow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   however they've done it they've created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   the system that advertisers put money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:13   into the big black box no but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   matter what happens in the black box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:16   then the money ends up in people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:18   pockets whether it's your pocket my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   pocket or some crazy person who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   uploading hate speech and how to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   bombs and stuff right this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   problem and like if the extent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:29   problems being exaggerated that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:31   issue don't get me wrong but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   a problem exists I've always thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   it's a problem just like I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37   problem that freebooters get money you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   know do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:40   I've said this a couple of times I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   even said it on the podcast that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   the best way to get freebooting dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   with would be to get in the advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   ears and say to them did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   your advertising on stolen content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   mm-hmm this is exactly what's happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:54   the times have gotten in the ears via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   the power of their newspaper and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:58   influence have gotten in the ears of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   advertisers and said do you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   your money says some of your money's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   ending up here now they've done it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   what I think somewhat disingenuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   motive mm-hmm but that's exactly what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:10   happened and YouTube have been caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:14   doing the wrong thing yes like then yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:17   but had to act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:18   they've been penalized for I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20   been skewed you can go ahead and explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:22   how it's been skewed but I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:23   have done the wrong thing they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   act and they are acting yeah but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   like I have to fundamentally disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:29   with your description thereof YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   has done the wrong thing right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:35   think that is a fair description of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:38   is occurring because what you're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   for is a perfect system that has to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:44   with essentially an infinite amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   content yeah but you're giving them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:48   leave pass for that reason you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:49   because it's hard and because it's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:51   we've done enough I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   have done enough this is our fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   disagreement because I do think and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   reason why the way all of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00   stories have reported on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01   frustrates me is because I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:05   you have to report on the Internet as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:09   different thing like this is not a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:12   schedule this is not advertising against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:15   known content this is algorithmically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:18   matching your advertisement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:21   - what algorithms think the content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:24   yeah that's what advertising on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   Internet is and I think if you ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:30   that if you want to ignore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32   fundamental way that the internet works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   and then hold the company Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:37   responsible as though they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   ads on an episode of Seinfeld where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   know what it is hold them to the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   standard of like oh we didn't air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46   Seinfeld that evening we actually aired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   a terrorist recruiting video and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   left all the ads in and hold them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:51   that kind of standard like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:53   that that's a fair assessment that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:56   I think it is an important part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:59   story how does the internet work but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:03   of the newspapers are reporting upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   Google and a presumably now Facebook yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:08   I'm no friend of Facebook but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   report on them like they're just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:12   bigger newspaper it's a fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:16   different kind of thing and I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:19   makes the internet different is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22   really matters in this story and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   ignore that is irresponsible this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:27   where we fundamentally disagree but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29   is kind of where I think you're the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   debating after the pub quiz all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   matters is that Pepsi saw their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:37   advertisement that they paid for next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:40   Bob the bombers video and like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:43   happened yep and YouTube took the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45   they took the money and when they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47   the money they knew they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48   supposed to put it next to Bob the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50   bomber they knew that even the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   you're describing it though like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   implying a kind of intent like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:56   hahaha we're taking Pepsi's money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   we're gonna put it against this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5698">TS</a>]

01:34:59   terrorist video okay let's not call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:00   intent let's call it negligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02   negligence is also not a word that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04   agree with and right I was just winding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   you up but you're doing what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   exactly the newspapers are doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   they'll write a word like negligent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   right and then you're implying a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   kind of thing I get super interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17   because I wanted to check that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18   after this had happened I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:19   bought a bunch of ads from my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21   YouTube channel on YouTube because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:24   just wanted to quickly see how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:25   system was like after we had that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:26   conversation yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28   just as I had remembered when I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:29   this years and years ago as with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:32   the amount of options and preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:34   they give you to try to target your ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36   to exactly who you want and the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38   of check boxes that you can tick for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40   the kinds of things that you want to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42   to have your ad not be shown against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:43   it's enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:44   like I've always like they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   incentive kind of stuff is that oh they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48   have all of this like inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   content but they also have things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:51   gambling like they have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   related kinds of things that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   not want your ads to run against this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:58   writer they have like mild violence they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:00   have a whole bunch of categories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:01   you can specify you don't want your ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:04   to run against and there's no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06   that they'd be like negligent where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:08   like ah ha ha we'll just have them take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   a bunch of these boxes and we won't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   anything on the other end like it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   YouTube's direct financial interest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:18   put the ads where the advertiser wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:21   them to go it's not a kind of negligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:24   to an extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:25   that's not completely true it's in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:28   interest to do it as long as it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   cost them too much to do that it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   their interest to do it because YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   charges when a user clicks on an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   right so they are in the business of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   matching ads to interested viewers yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:42   they're not selling billboards on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:43   highway here at a price that at a price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   to them they're in the business of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   that at a price to them that isn't too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:49   great that I can't employ 400 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:51   people to do it right they employ no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53   to do it they avoid a computer to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:54   there's not a huge cost on the other end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:56   it's not a big army of people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:57   they're like oh if we get these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:58   to slack off a bit right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00   Google's whole thing is this kind of AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:03   and categorization right this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05   whole deepmind project like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07   everything they do is making this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:09   good yeah and so that's why I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:12   you ignore this that is a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:15   negligence if you just ignore how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:18   system is different how YouTube is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:21   the business of categorizing decade's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   worth of content every day and you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:28   the couple of videos that no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:31   watched and you keep refreshing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:33   refreshing them until you find an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:34   from a big company that you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:37   bully because I think the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   this is I don't disagree with any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   these big companies from pulling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   newspapers and the news are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:48   bully these big companies into negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:51   PR campaigns to move their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:53   elsewhere that's definitely true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55   definitely agree with that but the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:56   is causing the very problem that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5876">TS</a>]

01:38:00   threatening will happen right like boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03   won't it be terrible news for you if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   keep writing stories that associate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:08   brand name with horrible thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10   title which is exactly what we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   do so to me this is like a mafia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:14   shakedown that they're doing here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16   like we'll always be able to find of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19   decades worth of stuff every day we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:21   be able to find something that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:24   miscategorized and we'll always be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:27   to hold that over your head so it'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29   real shame if we keep having to tarnish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31   your brand all the time it'd be a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   shame if we caused a constant problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   for our main competitor for advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   dollars so this is why I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:41   frustrating is I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43   intentionally misrepresented what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:45   thing is the Internet is just not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:47   newspaper it's not a television schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:50   it's a different kind of advertising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   I feel like pretty much everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:56   this but nonetheless traditional media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5936">TS</a>]

01:39:00   can bully companies into pulling their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:03   dollars off of it like I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   believe that people on the board of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:06   Pepsi or whatever know what this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:08   situation is but they're just pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:11   their dollars because they feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12   can't don't please don't put us at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14   center of the story like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16   taking our money out leave us alone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:18   a while I would believe that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:19   happening that even the people in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   of the advertising of the big companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22   understand the situation fully but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   feel like okay we can't be involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:26   this like we're forced to make a move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:28   here because of this story that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:31   generated I agree with what you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:33   said I am Not sure that the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:36   quite as tiny as you say like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:39   making it sound like these are like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   videos with eight views and they've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43   like point zero one of a penny mm-hmm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45   don't know in some of the examples I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:47   read about have been you know hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:49   and hundreds of thousands of views it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   would be interesting to know the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53   involved and whether or not YouTube are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56   willing to disclose that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:57   obviously they're not willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:58   disclose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5998">TS</a>]

01:39:59   because the numbers would probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   be quite big even though you would call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   them small yeah like they could easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   say uh yet we've looked at it and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   done an order and we've paid out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:08   know $33 hmm over the last year two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:12   extreme content but obviously the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14   isn't $33 it's obviously numbers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:16   are big enough that people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:18   get spooked I don't know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:20   numbers that are big enough that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:21   are going to get spooked because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:22   other thing that I've seen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24   articles like I've seen people passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:25   around that I find really frustrating is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:29   again this is a kind of thing that I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:32   often in the news but this is an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:35   of it where it's like you start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:37   about a really terrible thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39   transition into something else and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:42   I've seen articles where they start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:44   by talking about like oh here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:46   horrible beheading video that's Walmart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:50   ran an ad against or whatever yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:52   then they transition to videos that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:56   let's say unpopular political speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6056">TS</a>]

01:41:00   that have hundreds of thousands of views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:03   in them and then they suddenly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:04   start talking about popular channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:07   that might say unpopular things and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:10   like whoa whoa you've done like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12   switcheroo here because you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:15   implying that this horrible thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:18   getting the numbers of this other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   that you're talking about yeah and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22   didn't follow this world as closely as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:24   I would not be aware of what has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:28   occurred like if I'm just reading an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:29   article suddenly I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31   channels on YouTube that show terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   recruiting videos that have millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   subscribers and hundreds of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:37   views and it's like those things don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:38   exist yeah those are not on YouTube and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   so that is just another thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   find really frustrating where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:43   you news article or news story are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:47   you're no fool you're deliberately doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:50   this thing of like talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:52   horrible thing and then switch to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54   maybe controversial thing but act as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57   though they're the same like it's a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:59   of false equivalence I think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:00   them are folks by the way they I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02   in some cases they don't even quite get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   it themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:05   then I think it was as clever as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   think well there we go score one for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09   journalists then are they malevolent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:12   just fools I think that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:16   you said braiding hair and I'm gonna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:17   that on up no no I think you're right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   said in my statement in my now famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:20   statement I didn't say that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:22   they're a bad journalist out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24   they need to be called out and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:25   some of this reporting you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:27   perfectly fair to call that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:30   you make you make some good points about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:31   it but I do think big organizations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:35   companies don't act to improve things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:39   until they're called out sometimes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:42   you know YouTube have now announced some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:44   you know new system and stuff and I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46   a few people tweeting saying okay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:49   looks like an interesting thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:50   going to do to get around the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   well let's talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53   how have YouTube responded well the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:56   thing that I've seen which I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58   believe I said on Twitter it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6178">TS</a>]

01:42:59   brilliant response yeah is YouTube has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:02   decided that unless your YouTube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:04   has 10,000 lifetime views across all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:08   videos yeah you will not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:10   monetize the channel Yeah right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:12   10,000 views is no money it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:15   dollar especially after the ad boy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:18   it's essentially nothing yeah so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:20   hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:21   no creators right nobody with less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:23   10,000 views is making a living on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:25   YouTube and I thought this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:27   fantastic response because I viewed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:30   essentially as YouTube had to be seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:33   doing something and here's them able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:37   say like okay look we're gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:39   because we know that the videos people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:42   are pointing to have essentially no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:44   views right that they're getting flagged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:46   and they're getting pulled out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:47   system really fast and so since the view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:51   numbers on those things are so small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:52   anyway we can set a comically low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:55   threshold before videos can be monetized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:58   I think YouTube's response shows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:01   what the level of the problem really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03   it's like okay fine we have to be seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:07   to be doing something so we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:09   implement a quote solution to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:13   trivial problem I think it was a good PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:16   move on YouTube's side like I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:19   was a good decision to do but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:21   don't think is happening is behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   scenes is YouTube is going how jeez guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:26   never trying to find bad content before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   we were just taking all the Pepsi's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:29   money and running it on these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31   horrible ads like shucks we better stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33   doing that I think again with YouTube in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:36   particular they already had a hell of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:39   incentive to do this so I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41   think that there's something going on at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:43   YouTube where they're trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:45   improve their categorization algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47   more than they already were doing but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49   they had already had this system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51   place this 10,000 view system mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54   wouldn't it have been the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:55   there would have been no beheading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:57   videos with Walmart ads next to them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59   the first place and they wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01   had this ammunition okay yeah right yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:03   I would agree with that but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:06   saying is I think the amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:09   here is so trivial that it is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:12   right so what you're asking is is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:16   difference between a literal 0 problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19   and a essentially near zero problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:23   don't think that that difference is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   significant difference well it must feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   significant when lot your stock price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:29   goes down by a billion dollars but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:32   is my whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:33   it feels significant because the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:36   has made a thing out of nothing to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:40   own advantage should YouTube have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   it coming I don't know if YouTube should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44   have seen it coming because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46   you can't possibly see how your enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:50   are always going to attack you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:51   future but this seems like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:53   obvious attack to me I even suggested it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   in the context of freebooting shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:57   advertisers by showing them what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6357">TS</a>]

01:46:00   content is being shown against like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:02   seems like an obvious tactic if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:04   sat me down and said Brady we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:06   stop ad people advertising on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:08   give us some ideas I think I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:10   come up with that in the first hour or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:11   two okay right yeah you're coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   with ways to attack YouTube yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:17   not selling me on like what an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   piece of investigative journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:21   they're doing here right no no but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23   I'm saying in the context of should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:24   YouTube have been prepared for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26   said we need to make sure that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:28   we're not open to this attack because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:30   it's such an easy attack you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:32   not saying it's not trivial I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:33   it's easy to do I guess I sort of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35   what you're saying here but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37   you're giving in to my whole premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:38   then that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:39   whole story is like a made-up nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:41   story right like it isn't that surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6401">TS</a>]

01:46:44   the infuriating part and it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:46   gigantic company is never going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   able to protect itself from generated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:52   fury you can never possibly foresee all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:55   of the ways that your enemies are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:57   to attack you especially if they're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59   to spin up non problems into gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:02   problems yeah okay so I'm saying is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:04   does seem like an obvious one to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:06   if you think the ten thousand solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:09   has an impact I'm surprised they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:12   do it before yeah but again I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:14   you're asking youtube to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   anticipate all of the problems yeah I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:19   actually I think a big smart business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:21   does sit around and anticipate all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:23   problems and how they're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:24   attacked and how to protect themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6444">TS</a>]

01:47:26   against it don't they but presumably you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:28   would be concerned about your actual big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:31   problems first and you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:33   necessarily be sitting around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   thinking what are all of our tiniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:37   problems I don't think this is a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39   problem for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:40   I think it's been shown to not be a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41   problem for them again this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43   language is a thing though yes this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:46   now a real problem for YouTube that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:49   been spun out of bullshit that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:51   feeling on this is like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:52   foresee all of the both problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:55   someone is going to attack you with yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57   but I think this one could have been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:58   saying is what I'm saying I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:00   foreseen it well that's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02   think like a yellow journalist okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04   because you know how the minds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:06   journalists work and how they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:08   to attack their enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:09   so I guess YouTube should hire you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:11   consultant very good just sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:14   thinking of all the ways you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:15   attack them yeah I don't know great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:18   don't know what to say because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20   know some of the stuff you're saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:22   don't know if you're right you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:25   to me that the people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:27   inappropriate content and making very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:30   very little money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:31   like nothing money you're saying that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:34   me I don't know if that's true or not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:35   I don't know whether to disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:38   you yeah if that's true there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40   really you're saying that's particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:42   wrong yeah just to be clear one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:44   bigger problems that is happening is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:48   this question of like what is advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:51   appropriate on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   this gets very quickly into a realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:54   where it's very hard to know what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:57   happening but like I do sort of know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6537">TS</a>]

01:49:00   through unofficial channels that YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:02   does have behind the scenes like bins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6542">TS</a>]

01:49:05   that they put different channels into of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:06   saying like oh this is perfectly okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08   content like this is unknown content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:10   yeah and there's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:13   question about categorizing channels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:16   what happens to channels that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:18   considered more or less advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20   friendly again I think that that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:23   a related problem but a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:24   difficult to talk about problem because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26   you just don't know but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:29   things that I do start getting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:32   uncomfortable about is what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34   touching on here is like the boundaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:38   of what do we consider okay and not okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:41   content right and there's there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:43   like a huge gray area there on one end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:46   we have like the absolute stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:47   everybody agrees is totally horrible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:50   then as you start getting towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:51   end of the spectrum which is where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53   think the conflation starts beginning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:56   like politically unpopular speech which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6596">TS</a>]

01:50:00   starts becoming like a grey zone and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02   like well is this okay is this not okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:06   like then that becomes much harder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:09   to be clear I am 100% on the side like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:12   if advertisers don't want to advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:14   on politically unpopular videos like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:19   that's totally their prerogative it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:20   their money to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:21   it's 100% their choice advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:25   should be able to say like don't put our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:27   videos on anything that seems remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   political but then that starts getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31   into much more complicated questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:34   about like what kind of content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:36   YouTube implicitly through the way their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:39   system works promoting or not promoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:42   the creation of this starts becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:44   real mess like there are definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:48   channels on YouTube that get lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:50   views that you can point to easily that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:52   say like oh people don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:53   channel and they're making a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55   money but I think that gets very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:58   conflated with the absolute stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:01   we all agree is horrible and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03   stance is like the worst of the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05   stuff is not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:06   any money on YouTube but that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:08   mean that like channels where we start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:10   having some disagreement over are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13   making money like those channels do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15   exist and I do think if advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:17   don't want to advertise on them that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:19   the advertisers prerogative but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:22   much subtler question I think than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25   most of these new stories are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:27   about and I mean Google's solo it up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:29   kazoo they must have contracts in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:30   that are saying you know we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:32   what people are putting in their videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:33   sometimes and if suddenly CGP grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:36   uploads a video that's different to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37   the ones that have come before it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39   for them to realize that your tone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41   changed immediately that is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43   right as I mentioned on the show before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:45   I was told by someone YouTube like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:46   you are listed as one of the school safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:48   channels so YouTube has a mode which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:52   where schools can have a super lockdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:53   version of YouTube yeah and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:55   okay that's great I know my channels on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:57   there but I could upload a video that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6717">TS</a>]

01:51:59   a different thing like how long does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:00   take before the system would pull that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:02   yeah right this is what I mean by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:04   you can never possibly have a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:07   system here there's always going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:09   thing that you can point to yeah at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:11   higher levels it becomes a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13   complicated issue to talk about hmm what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:18   do you think in there Brady well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:21   overall feeling is that the old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23   media particularly the times has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:27   overcooked this and I'm finding it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:30   little bit offensive how conflicted they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:34   are and how hard they're going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:35   they've movie on the bounds of raising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:38   an issue and stirring up a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40   controversy and asking a few questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:41   about accountability they've totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43   moved over into feathering their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:46   nest mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:47   however I do think it was legitimate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50   point out that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:52   inappropriate content around sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54   it's got ads on it is this something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56   that should questions should be asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:57   about I think there was legitimate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6777">TS</a>]

01:52:59   still think it's legitimate I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:01   I think you're coming across as very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:03   much like so Pro YouTube that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:06   almost like surprising it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:08   uncomfortable position to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6788">TS</a>]

01:53:09   yeah and I do think that YouTube like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:14   any big company will sometimes only act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:16   to improve systems whether it's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:18   algorithm and how things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:19   when they have the blowtorch put on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:22   so I do think sometimes it's good for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:24   blowtorch such as media attention to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:27   applied to companies to make them act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29   and look at their systems and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:30   should we have a 10,000 rule is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:33   more we can do so I think it was fine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35   put a blowtorch on them but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:37   blowtorch has gone way too far to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:40   kind of SuperDuper mother of all flame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:41   throwers mm-hmm and it's gone beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:45   realms of what was fair reporting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6825">TS</a>]

01:53:48   I'm finding it quite frustrating what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:50   you think the net result is if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:53   the blowtorch has been held too long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:54   turned up too high and we also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:58   look at creators on the margin right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   whom this does have an impact right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:02   a decrease in like we're looking at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04   of the various things and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06   possibility of what YouTube can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:08   yeah in your view do you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:10   comes out as a net win or a net loss I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6850">TS</a>]

01:54:13   think it when all the dust settles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:15   for a few months or a year or two the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:19   needle has swung ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6859">TS</a>]

01:54:22   maybe the newspapers have stalled this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:24   move in advertising maybe slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:27   I think it's overall the trend will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:29   continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:30   I think the creators who are the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6870">TS</a>]

01:54:31   losers are kind of collateral damage hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:34   I mean there's been a lot written about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:36   this and I think the interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:37   is what a lot of the experts I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:39   as saying is that all these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:41   advertising budgets that are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:42   pulled out of YouTube are just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:43   go into sort of Google ads and search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:45   anyway because they set aside you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47   100 million dollars a year for online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:49   advertising mm-hmm and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:51   going to reallocate it around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:52   internet anyway and goo who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6892">TS</a>]

01:54:53   Hoover up most of it anyway well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55   gonna go to Facebook but somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:57   is next on the list yeah and also when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6897">TS</a>]

01:55:00   you look at sort of the wording of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:02   the media statements from the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:05   they're never saying we're pulling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:06   their advertising from the internet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08   Google they're quite canny with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10   wording usually so you can tell they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:12   still advertising online so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14   think it's quite the victory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:16   newspapers that they probably think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:17   they've landed the only real losers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:21   probably you and me well this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6921">TS</a>]

01:55:24   I've arranged my whole business so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26   this isn't a problem yeah this is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:28   have my fantastic patrons yeah it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6928">TS</a>]

01:55:30   really interesting because I'm I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:32   digging around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:33   data for my own analytics behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:35   scenes trying to see what I can see yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37   and I am fairly certain that the video I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:40   uploaded about the YouTube system has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6940">TS</a>]

01:55:43   been put into some kind of political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6943">TS</a>]

01:55:46   category because I could see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6946">TS</a>]

01:55:49   CPM s were at the start mmm and like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:53   the first two days it was lower than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6953">TS</a>]

01:55:56   normal and then all of a sudden it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:59   crashed to almost nothing and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:02   ha this is really interesting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:03   somewhere switched was clearly flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:05   where the algorithm thinks oh this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:08   video maybe about politics or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6968">TS</a>]

01:56:10   like who knows what it is but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:11   interesting because I've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:12   video do that before like comparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:15   with everything else where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:16   okay now this is earning essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:18   nothing it's interesting to see but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:21   still say like its creators on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:22   margin who are most affected by this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:25   yeah I didn't hear a clear answer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:27   you there of overall summing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:31   up is this whole debacle that happens on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6991">TS</a>]

01:56:35   the long scale is it a net positive for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:38   the world or is it a net negative for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:40   the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:40   what does Brady think oh no I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:43   just balances out like so might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:45   have not happened it's a net neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:49   that's what you're saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:50   everything in the world there are lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7010">TS</a>]

01:56:52   winners and losers who are the winners I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:54   feel like this is very important who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7014">TS</a>]

01:56:55   you think is the winner in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:58   situation who comes out better after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7018">TS</a>]

01:57:00   these news stories whoa I'm sure if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:02   ask Google and YouTube if they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:04   turn back the clock and have the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7024">TS</a>]

01:57:05   not appear they would say yes let's have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:08   them not appear and if you ask the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7028">TS</a>]

01:57:10   do you regret running them do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:12   to not do them they would say no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:13   we're glad we did it so based on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7033">TS</a>]

01:57:16   clearly the winners in that battle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:19   the newspaper I think it will result in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:22   it being a little bit harder for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24   creating an appropriate content to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:27   money so that's like a small positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:29   that's come out of it I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:31   big a positive because again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7051">TS</a>]

01:57:32   know how much money these make you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:35   me it's nothing you're more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:37   know than me so I'm assuming a right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:38   I don't know that you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:39   regardless I think it will be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:41   harder to make money with inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7061">TS</a>]

01:57:43   content now I think that's a good result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:45   I think people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:47   make their living via revenue on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:50   have taken a hit I don't know how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:53   that hit will last for their losers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:56   they are making appropriate content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58   which most of them are so I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7078">TS</a>]

01:58:00   think of it like that I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:02   think of it as winners and losers that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:03   just think it's like I've really got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7083">TS</a>]

01:58:05   do the society calculus right we add up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:07   all the benefits and all the harms alike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7087">TS</a>]

01:58:08   and there's a net positive for the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:10   or a net negative for the world I need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:11   bit longer I haven't got all the data I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:14   mean I haven't got enough data to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7094">TS</a>]

01:58:16   how big the problem was yeah that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7096">TS</a>]

01:58:18   that is the big unknown you think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20   completely trivial I think it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:23   much less than the times made it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:25   but I don't know if it's as trivial as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:27   you're making it sound mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:29   I don't know if it was a problem I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:31   it kind of was a problem but if these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:33   videos have made like half of one cent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7113">TS</a>]

01:58:37   and they just screen captured the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:38   moment in history when an ad was served [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:41   against it then okay it was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:44   problem I tend to think it must be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7124">TS</a>]

01:58:46   little bit worse than that all I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:48   on is the fact that when people free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:51   boot my videos there's certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:53   boatload of ads running against them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7133">TS</a>]

01:58:55   whatever mechanisms are in place to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:57   freebooting aren't working and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7137">TS</a>]

01:58:59   are making money from that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:00   different I don't think those things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7140">TS</a>]

01:59:02   flagged as fast as a terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:04   recruitment video I realize that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7144">TS</a>]

01:59:06   what I'm saying is that's all I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:07   to go on right and if that's all I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:09   got to go on then the history has shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:12   me that these hosts of media aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:16   particularly super red-hot on doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7156">TS</a>]

01:59:20   they do it they get around to it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:21   this has made them improve their systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7161">TS</a>]

01:59:24   a bit if the new 10,000 rule is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:26   positive then something's come of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:29   guess but don't get me wrong I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:31   was a bit scummy the times are overdone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:33   er they're continuing to overdo it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:35   driving me crazy it's making me a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:37   bit mad now when I read age mourning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7177">TS</a>]

01:59:38   it's like just because of the brazenness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:41   of it I think more than anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7181">TS</a>]

01:59:43   the obvious of it I just find it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:45   little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47   yeah bit yucky you know like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:50   care about Facebook but I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:52   Facebook no I don't like me look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:55   reckon I still don't want to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57   their business slandered essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:57   their business slandered essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7197">TS</a>]

02:00:00   blew by supposedly reputable news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:02   sources I don't I agree I've done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:05   really terrible job of answering a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7205">TS</a>]

02:00:06   question because I don't really think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:08   it in terms of winners and losers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7208">TS</a>]

02:00:09   been bit of a mucky episode but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12   a Walmart aired running against one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:14   beheading video is also unfortunate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7214">TS</a>]

02:00:16   understand why it happens and the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7216">TS</a>]

02:00:17   we work in but I think you're a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:21   of an apologist for these automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:22   systems than i apologist the apologist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:27   realist brady really was a realist I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7227">TS</a>]

02:00:30   think you can always make it better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7230">TS</a>]

02:00:32   I think they don't have best in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:34   these things better until they felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:37   heat I don't think they should have felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7237">TS</a>]

02:00:39   as much heat as they have when this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:41   money moves around and investment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7241">TS</a>]

02:00:43   pulled real lives are affected and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:46   shouldn't forget that as well but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7246">TS</a>]

02:00:49   think like in general terms one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:52   roles the media can play is holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:54   businesses to account that aren't doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7254">TS</a>]

02:00:56   enough to do their job properly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7256">TS</a>]

02:00:59   know if that's what happened here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:01   say absolutely not I say maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7261">TS</a>]

02:01:03   could have done more maybe I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7263">TS</a>]

02:01:05   see some data I do think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7265">TS</a>]

02:01:07   legitimate role for journalists to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7267">TS</a>]

02:01:09   I don't think the times should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:11   beating their chests about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:12   investigations I think this is trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7272">TS</a>]

02:01:14   what they've done they've just spun it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7274">TS</a>]

02:01:16   into a clever story that there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7276">TS</a>]

02:01:19   it's happened that's a we can say for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:21   sure it's a thing that happened that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7281">TS</a>]

02:01:25   and I'll be introducing how it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7285">TS</a>]

02:01:27   it'll never end they'll do this forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:29   I'll find another read on some obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7289">TS</a>]

02:01:30   video and then add a little kick off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:33   again it'll never end Brady that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:36   pretty much guarantee you it'll end when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7296">TS</a>]

02:01:38   the times goes out of business this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7298">TS</a>]

02:01:40   episode of hello Internet is brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7300">TS</a>]

02:01:42   you in part by Harry's Harry's was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7302">TS</a>]

02:01:44   started by two guys Jeff and Andy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:46   were fed up with being overcharged for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:48   razors so they decided to start their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7308">TS</a>]

02:01:50   own razor company to give guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:52   everywhere what they deserve a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7312">TS</a>]

02:01:55   shave at a fair price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:57   they bought a factory with a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7317">TS</a>]

02:01:59   years of blade making experience so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7319">TS</a>]

02:02:01   could make their own high-quality razors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7321">TS</a>]

02:02:02   sell them online and ship them directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7322">TS</a>]

02:02:05   to you for half the price of the leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7325">TS</a>]

02:02:08   brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:08   Harry's razors include everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:10   need for a close comfortable shave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:13   I have a german-engineered blades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7333">TS</a>]

02:02:14   lubricating strip flex hinge for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7334">TS</a>]

02:02:17   comfortable glide trimmer blade for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7337">TS</a>]

02:02:19   hard-to-reach places and a weighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7339">TS</a>]

02:02:21   organ Amma candle all this for two bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7341">TS</a>]

02:02:24   a blade compared to the four or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7344">TS</a>]

02:02:26   that you'll pay at the drugstore I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7346">TS</a>]

02:02:28   always like to mention is not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7348">TS</a>]

02:02:30   copy here but the hairy stuff just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7350">TS</a>]

02:02:32   really nice in the hand they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7352">TS</a>]

02:02:34   kidding about that weighted handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7354">TS</a>]

02:02:35   just it's way better than those cheapo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:39   blue razors you might have a full bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:42   somewhere in your house if you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7362">TS</a>]

02:02:43   of those bags with a bunch of blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7363">TS</a>]

02:02:45   cheapo razors seriously get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7365">TS</a>]

02:02:47   get Harries instead you will be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7367">TS</a>]

02:02:51   happier it's much nicer stuff to use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7371">TS</a>]

02:02:53   you're going to get a better shave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7373">TS</a>]

02:02:56   it looks nice there in your bathroom as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7376">TS</a>]

02:02:58   well they really take care with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7378">TS</a>]

02:03:01   they design their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7381">TS</a>]

02:03:03   Perris is so confident in the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:06   their blades they want you to try their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7386">TS</a>]

02:03:08   most popular trial set for free it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:11   with a razor handle of your choice five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7391">TS</a>]

02:03:13   blade cartridge and shaving gel free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7393">TS</a>]

02:03:16   when you sign up just pay a small fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7396">TS</a>]

02:03:19   for shipping to redeem your free trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:22   offer go to harrys.com and use the offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7402">TS</a>]

02:03:25   code h eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:27   once again that's Harry's com offer code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7407">TS</a>]

02:03:30   H eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7410">TS</a>]

02:03:31   thanks to Harry's for supporting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:34   show and thanks to Harry's for giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7414">TS</a>]

02:03:35   men everywhere a better shave okay gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7415">TS</a>]

02:03:39   let's do it I have finally finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7419">TS</a>]

02:03:41   Westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7421">TS</a>]

02:03:42   I started watching this and stopped then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7422">TS</a>]

02:03:45   you told me you'd watched it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:46   finished it so I I went back to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7426">TS</a>]

02:03:49   finished it so that we have both speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7429">TS</a>]

02:03:51   from position of knowledge yes although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:56   at this point it has been quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7436">TS</a>]

02:03:58   since I watched Westworld yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7438">TS</a>]

02:03:59   think our conversation might be somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7439">TS</a>]

02:04:01   brief but I'm happy to discuss Westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7441">TS</a>]

02:04:04   a little bit because everybody seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7444">TS</a>]

02:04:06   want us to at least touch upon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:08   yeah and as I briefly mentioned when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7448">TS</a>]

02:04:11   first brought it up but you you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7451">TS</a>]

02:04:13   to cut me off this is an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7453">TS</a>]

02:04:15   people recommending a thing recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7455">TS</a>]

02:04:18   it in the right way simply just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7458">TS</a>]

02:04:21   watch Westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7461">TS</a>]

02:04:22   not mentioning anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7462">TS</a>]

02:04:25   and I watched a thing and I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:29   enjoyed it so this was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:31   recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7471">TS</a>]

02:04:32   from the audience from my perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7472">TS</a>]

02:04:35   now since the Brady rule is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:38   have to lay your cards down on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7478">TS</a>]

02:04:40   yep we can't play poker not across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7480">TS</a>]

02:04:43   smoky table yeah with guns on our side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:45   we have to just put it down on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7485">TS</a>]

02:04:47   yep what did you think Brady well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7487">TS</a>]

02:04:49   is your opinion of the west-world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7489">TS</a>]

02:04:51   well we've both kind of tipped our hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:53   a little bit yeah but you didn't finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7493">TS</a>]

02:04:55   it so it doesn't no but I did stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:57   because I wasn't enjoying it mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7497">TS</a>]

02:04:59   a lot of people did say to me now stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:01   with it it gets better which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7501">TS</a>]

02:05:02   agree with I kind of do agree with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:05   do agree with that I enjoyed the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7505">TS</a>]

02:05:07   half more than the first half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7507">TS</a>]

02:05:08   series mm-hmm so should I go first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:13   say a few things a few of my thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:14   yeah but so is that a you liked it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7514">TS</a>]

02:05:17   is worth watching this was a good look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7517">TS</a>]

02:05:19   at my time okay it's a high quality show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:21   it's well-made it's thought-provoking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7521">TS</a>]

02:05:24   it's interesting it has a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7524">TS</a>]

02:05:27   recommend itself and I would say watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7527">TS</a>]

02:05:29   if someone said to me Brady I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7529">TS</a>]

02:05:31   of watching Westworld should I do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:34   would say yes definitely do it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7534">TS</a>]

02:05:36   great that's what I wanted to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7536">TS</a>]

02:05:37   that's what I was interested in and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7537">TS</a>]

02:05:39   frankly I feel a little bit relieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:41   that that is your opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7541">TS</a>]

02:05:43   yeah because my feeling is like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7543">TS</a>]

02:05:45   someone watches two episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7545">TS</a>]

02:05:46   Westworld and they don't like it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7546">TS</a>]

02:05:48   think I could confidently say you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7548">TS</a>]

02:05:50   go on and continue to watch it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7550">TS</a>]

02:05:52   feel like it is what it is right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:54   the start and right through the end so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:56   it's interesting that you had a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7556">TS</a>]

02:05:58   different experience that you liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7558">TS</a>]

02:05:59   more as it went on okay I can maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7559">TS</a>]

02:06:01   explain why that's the case I'll say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7561">TS</a>]

02:06:04   things I didn't like about it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7564">TS</a>]

02:06:06   because that's always the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:08   interesting yeah it's an it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:10   easiest and the most fun is to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7570">TS</a>]

02:06:12   about yeah now Westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7572">TS</a>]

02:06:15   started at a slight disadvantage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:17   I think I don't have a natural affinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7577">TS</a>]

02:06:20   for the Wild West genre ah yeah and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:24   the show is kind of wild Westy obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7584">TS</a>]

02:06:28   half the shows in all the cool super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7588">TS</a>]

02:06:29   high-tech labs but half of the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7589">TS</a>]

02:06:31   out in the theme park ones all wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7591">TS</a>]

02:06:34   Westy and I just don't have a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7594">TS</a>]

02:06:37   enjoyment of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:38   Wester Chandra don't Australians have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:40   like a Wild West there must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7600">TS</a>]

02:06:42   like cowboy genres out in Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7602">TS</a>]

02:06:44   right yeah we we had our frontiers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7604">TS</a>]

02:06:46   that doesn't mean that I like the genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:48   in films just because I'm from a country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7608">TS</a>]

02:06:50   where we had a frontier no I disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7610">TS</a>]

02:06:53   100 percent of Americans love the West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:55   that's how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7615">TS</a>]

02:06:56   okay so that was a slight disadvantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7616">TS</a>]

02:06:58   for me and I certainly enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7618">TS</a>]

02:07:02   moments in the labs and things much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7622">TS</a>]

02:07:06   than the scenes out in the park mmm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:09   appealed to me more and another thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7629">TS</a>]

02:07:12   would say about the series was I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7632">TS</a>]

02:07:14   like like it was a bit of a slow burn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7634">TS</a>]

02:07:16   some of the storylines and I don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7636">TS</a>]

02:07:19   a slow burn but I felt like maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7639">TS</a>]

02:07:22   was too slow a burn and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7642">TS</a>]

02:07:24   payoffs came a little bit too late I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7644">TS</a>]

02:07:27   think some of these storylines that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:29   invested in that later on how to pay off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7649">TS</a>]

02:07:31   maybe they should have sprinkled in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7651">TS</a>]

02:07:32   of that a bit earlier because some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:34   the stuff some of the little twists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7654">TS</a>]

02:07:36   things that came later on I thought oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7656">TS</a>]

02:07:39   that's nice like I feel glad I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7659">TS</a>]

02:07:41   now I felt like if they sprinkled them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7661">TS</a>]

02:07:43   in earlier it would have pulled me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7663">TS</a>]

02:07:45   through the series a bit better rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:46   than kind of back loading all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7666">TS</a>]

02:07:49   twists and interesting stuff and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7669">TS</a>]

02:07:53   that's why I enjoyed the second half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:55   more because I felt like at last I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7675">TS</a>]

02:07:57   getting some payment for my investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7677">TS</a>]

02:07:58   in these stories so I was like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7678">TS</a>]

02:08:00   see what you did there thank you took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7680">TS</a>]

02:08:03   long enough but all right yeah I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7683">TS</a>]

02:08:05   agree that they probably could have cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7685">TS</a>]

02:08:07   one episodes worth of contents and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:10   really suffered anything I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:13   biggest problem though for me was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7693">TS</a>]

02:08:16   were too many storylines and characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7696">TS</a>]

02:08:18   that I didn't engage with and like hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7698">TS</a>]

02:08:22   so you know how when you're watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7702">TS</a>]

02:08:24   really good series that you really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7704">TS</a>]

02:08:25   every time they cut to a new storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7705">TS</a>]

02:08:27   or a new person and what they're up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7707">TS</a>]

02:08:29   you're like I forgot about this I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7709">TS</a>]

02:08:31   this one - mm-hmm like and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7711">TS</a>]

02:08:33   very few where it's like oh this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7713">TS</a>]

02:08:34   boring one this is when I have a cup of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7714">TS</a>]

02:08:36   coffee or not pad like a good series has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7716">TS</a>]

02:08:39   none of them a bad series has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7719">TS</a>]

02:08:41   them Westworld had a couple like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7721">TS</a>]

02:08:43   were a couple of times when it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7723">TS</a>]

02:08:45   no I don't like this one I wish they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7725">TS</a>]

02:08:47   go back to the other one if you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:48   which which were some of the storylines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7728">TS</a>]

02:08:50   you found lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52   I can't specifically remember now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:53   hindsight but a lot of it was groups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7733">TS</a>]

02:08:55   people riding around on horses going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7735">TS</a>]

02:08:57   places I didn't really know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7737">TS</a>]

02:08:59   were going okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:02   it's a pretty big swath of things I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7742">TS</a>]

02:09:05   the people on the horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7745">TS</a>]

02:09:06   yeah just to mention very briefly not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:09   interject but a thing that I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:10   really interesting so one of the ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7750">TS</a>]

02:09:13   like watching a series like this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:15   sort of binge it all and then when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7755">TS</a>]

02:09:19   done the exciting part for me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7759">TS</a>]

02:09:21   now I'm gonna go on Reddit and see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7761">TS</a>]

02:09:24   the discussions are when the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7764">TS</a>]

02:09:25   is done and over with yeah like I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7765">TS</a>]

02:09:27   that a very very enjoyable part of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7767">TS</a>]

02:09:30   bin jabal TV shows it's like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7770">TS</a>]

02:09:32   want to follow this as we're going along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7772">TS</a>]

02:09:33   but I'm very interested afterward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:36   like a perfect example this is like mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7776">TS</a>]

02:09:38   robot or stranger things where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:41   can point out stuff that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7781">TS</a>]

02:09:42   notice and so it was the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:44   Westworld it was like okay great now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7784">TS</a>]

02:09:45   want to go find all the details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7785">TS</a>]

02:09:47   people have found in all this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7787">TS</a>]

02:09:48   fabulous stuff but one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7788">TS</a>]

02:09:50   reasons that I think is very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7790">TS</a>]

02:09:51   is it seemed like there was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:54   consensus that people did not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7794">TS</a>]

02:09:57   one storyline in particular which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7797">TS</a>]

02:10:00   about the madam trying to escape from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7800">TS</a>]

02:10:03   West world that had like a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7803">TS</a>]

02:10:05   of thumbs down of her constantly waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7805">TS</a>]

02:10:08   up in technology land and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7808">TS</a>]

02:10:09   escape from West world as I it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7809">TS</a>]

02:10:11   interesting to see how there can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7811">TS</a>]

02:10:13   strong consensus about a thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7813">TS</a>]

02:10:16   think if I had seen people talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7816">TS</a>]

02:10:19   that going along it might have infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7819">TS</a>]

02:10:21   my mind but I thought like oh no I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7821">TS</a>]

02:10:23   that part I had no issue with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7823">TS</a>]

02:10:25   whatsoever so that's why I was just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:27   of curious to see like did you hit upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:28   the thing well that at least commenters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7828">TS</a>]

02:10:31   on the Internet seemed to dislike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7831">TS</a>]

02:10:32   most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:33   I liked that storyline I liked that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7833">TS</a>]

02:10:35   character like I was interested in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7835">TS</a>]

02:10:37   it kind of lost a bit of puff towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7837">TS</a>]

02:10:39   the last episode or two yeah but overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7839">TS</a>]

02:10:41   I liked her storyline the sandy Newton's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7841">TS</a>]

02:10:44   character but the weak link for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:47   the show in terms of this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:49   mm-hmm was in a show filled with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7849">TS</a>]

02:10:52   really good actors and actresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7852">TS</a>]

02:10:55   was Dolores hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7855">TS</a>]

02:10:58   who was such an important character to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:00   the show mm-hmm and she just got more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7860">TS</a>]

02:11:03   and more important as it went along to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7863">TS</a>]

02:11:05   the end where she was super important I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:06   just never really liked her hmm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7866">TS</a>]

02:11:09   don't know if it was the way she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7869">TS</a>]

02:11:10   written or if it was the way she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7870">TS</a>]

02:11:12   acted but I just never cared about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7872">TS</a>]

02:11:15   at all like I mean I know she's a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7875">TS</a>]

02:11:17   and stuff but like I didn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7877">TS</a>]

02:11:19   robots I know I just never she was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7879">TS</a>]

02:11:23   weak link to me from always from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7883">TS</a>]

02:11:24   first five minutes of the series right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7884">TS</a>]

02:11:27   to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:28   I never warmed to her I never cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7888">TS</a>]

02:11:31   about her I never wanted bad things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:33   happen to her or good things to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7893">TS</a>]

02:11:34   to her she just left me completely cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:38   in every way and because she was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7898">TS</a>]

02:11:41   pivotal to what they were doing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7901">TS</a>]

02:11:44   know who the actress is actually or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7904">TS</a>]

02:11:45   she's like some mega superstar but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7905">TS</a>]

02:11:47   felt like they could have done with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:49   a real heavy hitter in the acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7909">TS</a>]

02:11:51   Department hmm in that role because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7911">TS</a>]

02:11:53   know you got Ed Harris and Anthony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:54   Hopkins and you got some got some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7914">TS</a>]

02:11:57   actors in that show and really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7917">TS</a>]

02:11:59   people who just really captivate you hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7919">TS</a>]

02:12:01   and she just was the opposite maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7921">TS</a>]

02:12:03   was supposed to be that way and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:05   was some act of genius but she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7925">TS</a>]

02:12:07   real weak link in the show for me hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7927">TS</a>]

02:12:10   and one last criticism I'll make before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7930">TS</a>]

02:12:12   I hand the floor to her friend is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7932">TS</a>]

02:12:16   criticism you often make which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:19   is one of my favorite ways you criticize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7939">TS</a>]

02:12:21   things but it is always a criticism is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7941">TS</a>]

02:12:23   your whoa dude criticism like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7943">TS</a>]

02:12:25   way of saying something's trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7945">TS</a>]

02:12:27   smart but it's not your kind of frat boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:29   puffing on a bong going well dude this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7949">TS</a>]

02:12:32   is like philosophy I think as I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7952">TS</a>]

02:12:35   Westfield but West Weald was whoa dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:39   for the pseudo-intellectual people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:43   like trendy glass concrete architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:46   and cool iPads and people who say AI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7966">TS</a>]

02:12:49   cognitive a lot hmm like it was whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7969">TS</a>]

02:12:52   dude dressed in sheep's clothing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:55   like most of the time it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7975">TS</a>]

02:12:57   whoa what if the robots are alive well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7977">TS</a>]

02:12:59   what if this is that like it was whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:01   dude all the time but for redditors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7981">TS</a>]

02:13:05   think they're too smart to say whoa dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7985">TS</a>]

02:13:08   there was a lot of that I like how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7988">TS</a>]

02:13:11   portray that is a general criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7991">TS</a>]

02:13:12   whereas it was a criticism of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7992">TS</a>]

02:13:14   particular book was the world dude but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7994">TS</a>]

02:13:17   totally get what you're saying and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7997">TS</a>]

02:13:19   is always whenever watching anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/7999">TS</a>]

02:13:20   that you have feeling of if it strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8000">TS</a>]

02:13:23   you you're always willing to go along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:25   with stuff and if it doesn't strike you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:26   you're not willing to go along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8006">TS</a>]

02:13:27   stuff like that's how all movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8007">TS</a>]

02:13:29   media work and I can totally see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8009">TS</a>]

02:13:32   especially in the earlier episodes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8012">TS</a>]

02:13:33   you're not going along with it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8013">TS</a>]

02:13:36   ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8016">TS</a>]

02:13:37   set where it's like we all work in 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8017">TS</a>]

02:13:39   glass offices can feel like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8019">TS</a>]

02:13:42   little much I can definitely see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8022">TS</a>]

02:13:44   and they do have a little bit of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8024">TS</a>]

02:13:46   techno jargon when they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8026">TS</a>]

02:13:49   oh these robots they have reveries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8029">TS</a>]

02:13:52   they're able to remember their past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8032">TS</a>]

02:13:53   selves it is a bit like I would you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8033">TS</a>]

02:13:55   going a bit far here like this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8035">TS</a>]

02:13:57   doesn't really matter these details and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8037">TS</a>]

02:13:59   it feels like you're doing something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8039">TS</a>]

02:14:00   do something so I can see how you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8040">TS</a>]

02:14:02   feel that at certain parts in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8042">TS</a>]

02:14:03   but I like to I am genuinely glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8043">TS</a>]

02:14:06   you liked it I'm glad that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8046">TS</a>]

02:14:07   feel like it was a waste of your time no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8047">TS</a>]

02:14:09   definitely not tell me your thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8049">TS</a>]

02:14:11   about it tell me what captured you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8051">TS</a>]

02:14:12   what you liked and didn't like here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8052">TS</a>]

02:14:14   problem for me Brady is I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8054">TS</a>]

02:14:17   show was the center of a bull's eye for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8057">TS</a>]

02:14:20   a few things that then allowed me to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8060">TS</a>]

02:14:23   along with a whole bunch of other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8063">TS</a>]

02:14:25   and so center of the bullseye number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8065">TS</a>]

02:14:29   is I love this environment of it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8069">TS</a>]

02:14:34   Wild West but it's also the future I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:37   love this in West world I love this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8077">TS</a>]

02:14:41   Firefly one of the video games I play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8081">TS</a>]

02:14:44   the most called rim world is also set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8084">TS</a>]

02:14:46   this kind of like it's the Wild West but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8086">TS</a>]

02:14:49   it's also the future I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8089">TS</a>]

02:14:51   but I feel like this setting really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8091">TS</a>]

02:14:54   nails it for me I feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8094">TS</a>]

02:14:57   something about the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8097">TS</a>]

02:14:58   American idea of the Wild West is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8098">TS</a>]

02:15:00   like a made-up thing anyway like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8100">TS</a>]

02:15:02   Americans think the Wild West was is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8102">TS</a>]

02:15:05   like nothing at all like what the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8105">TS</a>]

02:15:06   Wild West was something about that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8106">TS</a>]

02:15:09   kind of lends itself in a strange way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8109">TS</a>]

02:15:11   the science fiction genre like it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8111">TS</a>]

02:15:14   an artificial setting that I think using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8114">TS</a>]

02:15:17   it as the setting for this park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8117">TS</a>]

02:15:21   just works perfectly it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8121">TS</a>]

02:15:23   wild-west it wasn't real in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8123">TS</a>]

02:15:25   place and now we're creating like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8125">TS</a>]

02:15:27   little fantasy place for people to ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8127">TS</a>]

02:15:30   around on horses that is totally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8130">TS</a>]

02:15:32   center of the bullseye for me the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8132">TS</a>]

02:15:35   thing which is going to be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8135">TS</a>]

02:15:36   hard to explain is this show was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8136">TS</a>]

02:15:41   enjoyable to me on another level which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8141">TS</a>]

02:15:44   is I have played in the past massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8144">TS</a>]

02:15:48   multiplayer online role-playing games so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8148">TS</a>]

02:15:50   things like World of Warcraft and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8150">TS</a>]

02:15:53   would just love to know but like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8153">TS</a>]

02:15:55   the writers of this show had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8155">TS</a>]

02:15:57   fairly heavily influenced by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8157">TS</a>]

02:16:00   those games work because so much of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8160">TS</a>]

02:16:04   show felt like oh we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8164">TS</a>]

02:16:07   world of warcraft but we're going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8167">TS</a>]

02:16:10   it in a real-world setting so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8170">TS</a>]

02:16:12   lots of elements in the show that I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8172">TS</a>]

02:16:14   like I'm enjoying this on two levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8174">TS</a>]

02:16:16   because it's like oh the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8176">TS</a>]

02:16:18   happening but it's like they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8178">TS</a>]

02:16:20   calling out oh yes some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8180">TS</a>]

02:16:22   characters these are where quests begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8182">TS</a>]

02:16:24   right this is the exact way it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8184">TS</a>]

02:16:26   World of Warcraft these event Nara tapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8186">TS</a>]

02:16:27   I call them yeah the narratives right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8187">TS</a>]

02:16:29   but it's like in World of Warcraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8189">TS</a>]

02:16:31   those characters have like golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8191">TS</a>]

02:16:33   exclamation marks above their head so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8193">TS</a>]

02:16:34   you know like this is where a story can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8194">TS</a>]

02:16:36   begin yeah or the idea that like it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8196">TS</a>]

02:16:38   more dangerous the further out from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8198">TS</a>]

02:16:40   center of town you go it's like oh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8200">TS</a>]

02:16:42   course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8202">TS</a>]

02:16:43   there's like the protective starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8203">TS</a>]

02:16:45   newbie area just like in all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8205">TS</a>]

02:16:47   games in the further you get from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8207">TS</a>]

02:16:48   the more dangerous it gets so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8208">TS</a>]

02:16:50   like there were so many things that felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8210">TS</a>]

02:16:52   like they were intentional calls or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8212">TS</a>]

02:16:55   references to a particular kind of way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8215">TS</a>]

02:16:58   that certain video games work and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8218">TS</a>]

02:17:01   that works for me on an additional level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8221">TS</a>]

02:17:03   because in those games I never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8223">TS</a>]

02:17:05   care about the game at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8225">TS</a>]

02:17:06   I only care about just exploring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8226">TS</a>]

02:17:08   and riding around on a horse and then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8228">TS</a>]

02:17:11   it's it's this double thing with like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8231">TS</a>]

02:17:12   of course in West world what do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8232">TS</a>]

02:17:13   they're riding around on horses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8233">TS</a>]

02:17:15   they're exploring this whole world yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8235">TS</a>]

02:17:17   so I felt like again it just hit me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8237">TS</a>]

02:17:20   the right spot in a couple of ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8240">TS</a>]

02:17:23   a bunch of stuff that in another show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8243">TS</a>]

02:17:26   might have been annoyed with or find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8246">TS</a>]

02:17:28   tiresome I felt very happy to just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8248">TS</a>]

02:17:31   along with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8251">TS</a>]

02:17:33   I felt like I was really on board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8253">TS</a>]

02:17:35   his show yeah okay and just in a way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8255">TS</a>]

02:17:37   TV shows are made like what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8257">TS</a>]

02:17:39   saying before I felt like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8259">TS</a>]

02:17:42   well-crafted show I like it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8262">TS</a>]

02:17:44   feels like effort has been put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8264">TS</a>]

02:17:46   making an interesting watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8266">TS</a>]

02:17:49   experience I thought it's a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8269">TS</a>]

02:17:51   did a great job of naturally exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8271">TS</a>]

02:17:55   its own premise yeah so a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8275">TS</a>]

02:17:57   things that they did of like oh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8277">TS</a>]

02:17:58   course we're in an amusement park where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8278">TS</a>]

02:18:01   some people are robots and so since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8281">TS</a>]

02:18:03   those people who are robots they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8283">TS</a>]

02:18:04   age we can show you things out of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:07   and you won't realize it until later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8287">TS</a>]

02:18:09   yeah because the robots are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8289">TS</a>]

02:18:12   looking the same but the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8292">TS</a>]

02:18:14   aren't robots look different I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8294">TS</a>]

02:18:15   see that coming to be honest that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8295">TS</a>]

02:18:17   quite well done yeah I have to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8297">TS</a>]

02:18:18   sometimes when you're watching shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8298">TS</a>]

02:18:20   feel like oh I know where this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8300">TS</a>]

02:18:22   and even in a show like this you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8302">TS</a>]

02:18:23   someone's gonna be a robot who is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8303">TS</a>]

02:18:25   robot like obviously right we know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8305">TS</a>]

02:18:27   is how these stories work but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8307">TS</a>]

02:18:30   felt like they did it in an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8310">TS</a>]

02:18:32   way adding in this fact that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8312">TS</a>]

02:18:34   constantly seeing stuff out of order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8314">TS</a>]

02:18:37   not realizing it added to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8317">TS</a>]

02:18:40   interestingness of it and I went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8320">TS</a>]

02:18:42   and watched a few of the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8322">TS</a>]

02:18:43   episodes again knowing that I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8323">TS</a>]

02:18:45   oh yes this is doubly clever like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8325">TS</a>]

02:18:47   getting an enjoying viewing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8327">TS</a>]

02:18:49   the second time through in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8329">TS</a>]

02:18:51   way hmm which by the way is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8331">TS</a>]

02:18:54   reasons why I love the reddit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8334">TS</a>]

02:18:55   people were pointing out that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8335">TS</a>]

02:18:57   know that there are these two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8337">TS</a>]

02:18:59   timelines there's all sorts of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8339">TS</a>]

02:19:01   clues in all of the scenes that let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8341">TS</a>]

02:19:03   know right where you are in time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8343">TS</a>]

02:19:06   stuff in the background is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8346">TS</a>]

02:19:07   that you just don't notice on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8347">TS</a>]

02:19:08   one or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8348">TS</a>]

02:19:10   so I'd say like I just felt like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8350">TS</a>]

02:19:12   great show explored its premise I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8352">TS</a>]

02:19:15   it a whole lot I'm frankly a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8355">TS</a>]

02:19:18   concerned that there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8358">TS</a>]

02:19:19   season two because I feel like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8359">TS</a>]

02:19:21   nice little self-contained thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8361">TS</a>]

02:19:23   really feel like there's a need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8363">TS</a>]

02:19:24   another season here at the end I did cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8364">TS</a>]

02:19:26   I didn't know if I'm making season 2 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8366">TS</a>]

02:19:28   not but I did think well obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8368">TS</a>]

02:19:29   they're setting up season 2 or you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8369">TS</a>]

02:19:31   end it there really class early but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8371">TS</a>]

02:19:33   they're going season 2 are they you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8373">TS</a>]

02:19:35   never enter classily right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8375">TS</a>]

02:19:37   I've seen a couple of shows where I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8377">TS</a>]

02:19:38   like oh what a nice complete first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8378">TS</a>]

02:19:40   season we could end it there oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8380">TS</a>]

02:19:43   going to be another one like well are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8383">TS</a>]

02:19:45   going to go to Samurai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8385">TS</a>]

02:19:46   and for season two that they hinted at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8386">TS</a>]

02:19:48   feel I feel ready to be disappointed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8388">TS</a>]

02:19:50   a second season because the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8390">TS</a>]

02:19:52   was just such a nice self-contained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8392">TS</a>]

02:19:54   thing so I really liked it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8394">TS</a>]

02:19:57   anything you didn't like what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8397">TS</a>]

02:19:59   think about all the storylines and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8399">TS</a>]

02:20:00   characters and the acting and the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8400">TS</a>]

02:20:02   do you think of the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8402">TS</a>]

02:20:03   development you haven't talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8403">TS</a>]

02:20:04   that side of things at all really well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8404">TS</a>]

02:20:06   guess because again I was mostly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8406">TS</a>]

02:20:07   board with it I agree with some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8407">TS</a>]

02:20:09   things you say like there were a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8409">TS</a>]

02:20:10   places where I felt like it was dragging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8410">TS</a>]

02:20:12   a little bit towards the end but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8412">TS</a>]

02:20:16   I'm also marathoning these things over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8416">TS</a>]

02:20:18   two days yeah and I feel like that leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8418">TS</a>]

02:20:20   to a very different viewing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8420">TS</a>]

02:20:23   than if you're watching it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8423">TS</a>]

02:20:24   segmented Lee so I really don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8424">TS</a>]

02:20:28   major complaints I just think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8428">TS</a>]

02:20:31   interesting and well done and I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8431">TS</a>]

02:20:33   two thumbs up and it's probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8433">TS</a>]

02:20:35   the I'm going to say one of the top TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8435">TS</a>]

02:20:38   viewing experiences I've had in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8438">TS</a>]

02:20:40   long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8440">TS</a>]

02:20:40   so I don't actually have a long list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8440">TS</a>]

02:20:43   complaints but I do recognize that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8443">TS</a>]

02:20:47   are things that I would complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8447">TS</a>]

02:20:48   in a less well-done show but I was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8448">TS</a>]

02:20:51   with them in this show I'm very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8451">TS</a>]

02:20:53   with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8453">TS</a>]

02:20:53   I guess like a thing that I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8453">TS</a>]

02:20:55   kind of interesting question which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8455">TS</a>]

02:20:57   not really about the show by like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8457">TS</a>]

02:20:58   been wondering and I don't have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8458">TS</a>]

02:21:00   answer to this I would like to know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8460">TS</a>]

02:21:03   you would go to Westworld like if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8463">TS</a>]

02:21:05   was a real thing would you go brady i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8465">TS</a>]

02:21:07   feel like i have no idea how you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8467">TS</a>]

02:21:10   answer this I reckon I would yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8470">TS</a>]

02:21:12   would okay why would you go oh I like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8472">TS</a>]

02:21:15   good adventure mm-hmm and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8475">TS</a>]

02:21:18   like that it's kind of exclusive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8478">TS</a>]

02:21:20   posh as well because that is that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8480">TS</a>]

02:21:24   of what you like about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8484">TS</a>]

02:21:25   interesting yeah it looks like they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8485">TS</a>]

02:21:26   care of their customers uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8486">TS</a>]

02:21:29   you know you think you get the respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8489">TS</a>]

02:21:31   you deserve see exactly what yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8491">TS</a>]

02:21:32   I'd like the adventure of like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8492">TS</a>]

02:21:34   to you know have adventures with guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8494">TS</a>]

02:21:37   and stuff without being scared of dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8497">TS</a>]

02:21:38   hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8498">TS</a>]

02:21:40   so you know because I quite like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8500">TS</a>]

02:21:41   know I like playing paintball and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8501">TS</a>]

02:21:43   like that I always find that quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8503">TS</a>]

02:21:44   adventurous you know running around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8504">TS</a>]

02:21:46   forest and shooting and stuff here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8506">TS</a>]

02:21:48   thing that I've wondered that so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8508">TS</a>]

02:21:49   the fakeness of it wouldn't bother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8509">TS</a>]

02:21:53   like the fact that it's all set up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8513">TS</a>]

02:21:55   that you know that you're protected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8515">TS</a>]

02:21:56   wouldn't undermine it for you no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8516">TS</a>]

02:21:58   I would appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8518">TS</a>]

02:21:59   a the safety of it hmm in the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8519">TS</a>]

02:22:02   it's a place where you go to escape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8522">TS</a>]

02:22:04   have adventures and you know mm-hmm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8524">TS</a>]

02:22:06   know I wouldn't go there trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8526">TS</a>]

02:22:07   yeah make new friends better what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8527">TS</a>]

02:22:11   you would you go to West world oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8531">TS</a>]

02:22:13   yeah of course in the heartbeat I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8533">TS</a>]

02:22:14   go why because that to me seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8534">TS</a>]

02:22:17   perfect kind of adventure to have where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8537">TS</a>]

02:22:19   I don't want to ride around on a horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8539">TS</a>]

02:22:21   in the real American West yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8541">TS</a>]

02:22:24   because I can die of thirst or get stung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8544">TS</a>]

02:22:28   by a scorpion all right like there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8548">TS</a>]

02:22:29   kinds of bad things that can happen yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8549">TS</a>]

02:22:31   and so I would ride around in in West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8551">TS</a>]

02:22:34   world for the same reason that I rode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8554">TS</a>]

02:22:36   around in World of Warcraft because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8556">TS</a>]

02:22:38   there is some kind of pleasure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8558">TS</a>]

02:22:41   exploring new things and that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8561">TS</a>]

02:22:45   achieved in this kind of environment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8565">TS</a>]

02:22:46   the fact that it's a safe environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8566">TS</a>]

02:22:49   allows you to have a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8569">TS</a>]

02:22:52   more adventurous fun than you normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8572">TS</a>]

02:22:53   would so oh yeah I would be on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8573">TS</a>]

02:22:55   immediately and also I would go to West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8575">TS</a>]

02:22:58   world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8578">TS</a>]

02:22:58   you can keep your samurai world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8578">TS</a>]

02:23:01   sounds really boring and uninteresting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8581">TS</a>]

02:23:03   have no desire to go there to take it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8583">TS</a>]

02:23:04   step further and to take it where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8584">TS</a>]

02:23:06   show took it would you have ethical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8586">TS</a>]

02:23:08   concerns about what was being done to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8588">TS</a>]

02:23:10   the hosts is it cruel what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8590">TS</a>]

02:23:12   to those robots so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8592">TS</a>]

02:23:14   interesting question right I think if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8594">TS</a>]

02:23:17   real-life West world had this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8597">TS</a>]

02:23:20   technology and the robots were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8600">TS</a>]

02:23:24   conscious then to me it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8604">TS</a>]

02:23:26   unambiguous this is morally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8606">TS</a>]

02:23:28   reprehensible right this is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8608">TS</a>]

02:23:30   slavery I don't think there's any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8610">TS</a>]

02:23:32   you can argue around that if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8612">TS</a>]

02:23:34   conscious but what I what I have found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8614">TS</a>]

02:23:36   really interesting is it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8616">TS</a>]

02:23:38   people disagree on the morality of it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8618">TS</a>]

02:23:43   West's world works in a sense the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8623">TS</a>]

02:23:45   it's supposed to that the robots are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8625">TS</a>]

02:23:48   just complicated toasters right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8628">TS</a>]

02:23:50   there's nothing inside that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8630">TS</a>]

02:23:52   have any actual feelings that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8632">TS</a>]

02:23:54   just simulating experience and emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8634">TS</a>]

02:23:57   and then I feel like well I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8637">TS</a>]

02:24:00   problem with this in the same way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8640">TS</a>]

02:24:02   don't have a problem with Disney's Hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8642">TS</a>]

02:24:05   of Presidents right like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8645">TS</a>]

02:24:06   moral problem there you've just made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8646">TS</a>]

02:24:09   thing that's much more convincing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8649">TS</a>]

02:24:12   it's interesting that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8652">TS</a>]

02:24:13   from people I've spoken to about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8653">TS</a>]

02:24:16   show it seems like in some people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8656">TS</a>]

02:24:18   minds there's a line that gets crossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8658">TS</a>]

02:24:20   if a thing becomes too convincingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8660">TS</a>]

02:24:23   human then it's a moral even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8663">TS</a>]

02:24:27   thing isn't conscious where do you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8667">TS</a>]

02:24:30   on that line what's the question it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8670">TS</a>]

02:24:32   the question that if it seems to human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8672">TS</a>]

02:24:34   will I start thinking it's conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8674">TS</a>]

02:24:36   there's two questions what I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8676">TS</a>]

02:24:37   the easy question is Westworld wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8677">TS</a>]

02:24:41   morally wrong if the robots inside of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8681">TS</a>]

02:24:44   are conscious creatures yeah if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8684">TS</a>]

02:24:46   conscious in the way that I'm conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8686">TS</a>]

02:24:48   yeah in the way that you're conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8688">TS</a>]

02:24:49   right so like when when people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8689">TS</a>]

02:24:51   stabbing them they're feeling pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8691">TS</a>]

02:24:53   yeah stabbing them and raping them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8693">TS</a>]

02:24:56   shooting them in the head and if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8696">TS</a>]

02:24:58   conscious then yes yes yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8698">TS</a>]

02:25:01   easy question yeah the harder question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8701">TS</a>]

02:25:04   is it morally wrong if they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8704">TS</a>]

02:25:08   conscious if they are like a mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8708">TS</a>]

02:25:11   object that experiences nothing then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8711">TS</a>]

02:25:14   most cases no because it's no different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8714">TS</a>]

02:25:17   to shooting a bottle of a shelf at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8717">TS</a>]

02:25:20   shooting gallery if it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8720">TS</a>]

02:25:22   inanimate object okay so what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8722">TS</a>]

02:25:24   mean by most cases though well it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8724">TS</a>]

02:25:27   start raising questions where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8727">TS</a>]

02:25:30   tapping into the dark side of the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8730">TS</a>]

02:25:34   so you know if a human's going to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8734">TS</a>]

02:25:37   place to start performing depraved acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8737">TS</a>]

02:25:40   and feeding and fueling sides of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8740">TS</a>]

02:25:44   personality that a morally ambiguous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8744">TS</a>]

02:25:47   could probably have conversations around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8747">TS</a>]

02:25:49   that is it right for you know a married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8749">TS</a>]

02:25:53   man or woman to go to this place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8753">TS</a>]

02:25:55   start performing acts and doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8755">TS</a>]

02:25:57   that they wouldn't do in the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8757">TS</a>]

02:25:59   because they can get away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8759">TS</a>]

02:26:00   they're then then you could start having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8760">TS</a>]

02:26:01   a conversation around that mm-hmm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8761">TS</a>]

02:26:04   don't know where that conversation would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8764">TS</a>]

02:26:05   take you but that obviously is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8765">TS</a>]

02:26:09   questionable isn't it like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8769">TS</a>]

02:26:11   displaying your murderer you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8771">TS</a>]

02:26:12   going there to act out your murderous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8772">TS</a>]

02:26:15   intent is that a good thing to do is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8775">TS</a>]

02:26:18   good for there to be a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8778">TS</a>]

02:26:19   people can act on impulses they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8779">TS</a>]

02:26:22   act on in the real world sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8782">TS</a>]

02:26:24   think that's okay other time it's maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8784">TS</a>]

02:26:26   not I don't know yeah I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8786">TS</a>]

02:26:27   two questions here in this which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8787">TS</a>]

02:26:30   someone's actions in Westworld even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8790">TS</a>]

02:26:34   there's nothing morally wrong because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8794">TS</a>]

02:26:37   the robots are not feeling anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8797">TS</a>]

02:26:39   it feels like it could raise some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8799">TS</a>]

02:26:41   questions about the person though yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8801">TS</a>]

02:26:43   like if you know your buddy goes to West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8803">TS</a>]

02:26:45   world and he spends his day torturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8805">TS</a>]

02:26:47   the robots yeah slowly and in detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8807">TS</a>]

02:26:50   ways I'd feel a little uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8810">TS</a>]

02:26:52   letting him take care of my dog for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8812">TS</a>]

02:26:54   weekend yeah right because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8814">TS</a>]

02:26:56   you're getting some information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8816">TS</a>]

02:26:57   the person yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8817">TS</a>]

02:26:59   and that's that's like an uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8819">TS</a>]

02:27:01   thing because you're finding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8821">TS</a>]

02:27:02   something about a person but it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8822">TS</a>]

02:27:04   than just finding out about it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8824">TS</a>]

02:27:06   also cultivating it isn't starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8826">TS</a>]

02:27:08   you know breed those impulses and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8828">TS</a>]

02:27:10   them more likely to be act upon that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8830">TS</a>]

02:27:12   where it becomes an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8832">TS</a>]

02:27:13   that is an interesting question but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8833">TS</a>]

02:27:14   I also find interesting though is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8834">TS</a>]

02:27:16   have found disagreement with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8836">TS</a>]

02:27:18   about whether or not that would be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8838">TS</a>]

02:27:22   for someone to do right even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8842">TS</a>]

02:27:25   thing isn't experience anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8845">TS</a>]

02:27:28   interesting that there seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8848">TS</a>]

02:27:29   disagreement over here and I like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8849">TS</a>]

02:27:30   was watching the show I kept being aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8850">TS</a>]

02:27:32   of like if I was in West world I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8852">TS</a>]

02:27:34   be playing it the same way that I played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8854">TS</a>]

02:27:36   World of Warcraft which is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8856">TS</a>]

02:27:37   like I don't care about your quests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8857">TS</a>]

02:27:39   right I just want to ride my horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8859">TS</a>]

02:27:40   around and explore these different areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8860">TS</a>]

02:27:42   and if I did do any of those quests or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8862">TS</a>]

02:27:47   those adventures I was trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8867">TS</a>]

02:27:49   like where is the line how far would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8869">TS</a>]

02:27:51   want to push this line and it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8871">TS</a>]

02:27:54   I could see a fun adventure where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8874">TS</a>]

02:27:56   shooting bandits at a distance and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8876">TS</a>]

02:28:01   adventure like there's some guys on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8881">TS</a>]

02:28:02   mountaintop that I'm shooting yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8882">TS</a>]

02:28:04   boy is it gets closer and closer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8884">TS</a>]

02:28:06   becomes more and more uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8886">TS</a>]

02:28:07   sticking and nothing they got and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8887">TS</a>]

02:28:09   yeah and it's like that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8889">TS</a>]

02:28:11   trying to think it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8891">TS</a>]

02:28:11   hand-to-hand combat with knives even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8891">TS</a>]

02:28:15   I think the robot is unconscious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8895">TS</a>]

02:28:18   feels uncomfortable like that would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8898">TS</a>]

02:28:20   be an enjoyable experience yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8900">TS</a>]

02:28:22   I think like it's just interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8902">TS</a>]

02:28:24   kind of think it through it's like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8904">TS</a>]

02:28:25   could imagine enjoying an adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8905">TS</a>]

02:28:29   where you're shooting someone at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8909">TS</a>]

02:28:31   distance but like the hand-to-hand stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8911">TS</a>]

02:28:33   it's like even if this is not a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8913">TS</a>]

02:28:36   thing like this this robot is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8916">TS</a>]

02:28:37   conscious it's not experience anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8917">TS</a>]

02:28:39   it's like I don't want to do this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8919">TS</a>]

02:28:41   like I don't want to slit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8921">TS</a>]

02:28:42   guys neck right up close even if none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8922">TS</a>]

02:28:45   its real and I'm ultimately safe and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8925">TS</a>]

02:28:48   one is being harmed like it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8928">TS</a>]

02:28:50   would feel like it's personally crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8930">TS</a>]

02:28:51   some kind of line like this is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8931">TS</a>]

02:28:53   enjoyable experience and I would find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8933">TS</a>]

02:28:55   concerning if we're in West world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8935">TS</a>]

02:28:58   like somebody else's is doing that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8938">TS</a>]

02:29:01   the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8941">TS</a>]

02:29:01   it's why I think I think the show is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8941">TS</a>]

02:29:03   interesting point of conversation around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8943">TS</a>]

02:29:07   some of that stuff yeah it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8947">TS</a>]

02:29:10   like the holodeck question like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8950">TS</a>]

02:29:11   mentioned before they have you on Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8951">TS</a>]

02:29:13   Trek when they use the holodeck like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8953">TS</a>]

02:29:15   you cheat on your spouse in the holodeck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8955">TS</a>]

02:29:17   there's some disagreement about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8957">TS</a>]

02:29:19   or not that's cheating yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8959">TS</a>]

02:29:21   question without a good answer in date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8961">TS</a>]

02:29:23   in date anyway two thumbs up from West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8963">TS</a>]

02:29:27   world for me well I haven't watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8967">TS</a>]

02:29:29   and you've listened somehow go watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8969">TS</a>]

02:29:31   I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8971">TS</a>]

02:29:31   did you see how Netflix now has switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8971">TS</a>]

02:29:33   to you give a thumbs up or a thumbs down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8973">TS</a>]

02:29:35   to a show at the end and no more star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8975">TS</a>]

02:29:36   ratings Oh have they yeah oh I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8976">TS</a>]

02:29:39   believe you haven't seen that everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8979">TS</a>]

02:29:40   been pointing that out to us oh I miss I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8980">TS</a>]

02:29:42   missed that somehow you must take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8982">TS</a>]

02:29:44   as a big victory did I promote that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8984">TS</a>]

02:29:46   the past at one point did I say did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8986">TS</a>]

02:29:48   promote everyone's talking to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8988">TS</a>]

02:29:49   it's a victory for me but I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8989">TS</a>]

02:29:51   thinking why are you saying that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8991">TS</a>]

02:29:52   victory for me that sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8992">TS</a>]

02:29:53   victory for grey you know me i'm i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8993">TS</a>]

02:29:56   using minutes on a clock to rate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8996">TS</a>]

02:29:58   film so if i ever promoted that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/8998">TS</a>]

02:30:08   remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9008">TS</a>]

02:30:08   but you're more like thumbs up or thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9008">TS</a>]

02:30:10   down to whether things are good or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9010">TS</a>]

02:30:12   you're not one for like you know three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9012">TS</a>]

02:30:13   and a half stars or seven out of ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9013">TS</a>]

02:30:15   you're like thumbs up or thumbs down i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9015">TS</a>]

02:30:17   yeah i like thumbs up for movies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9017">TS</a>]

02:30:19   cuz i think maybe what people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9019">TS</a>]

02:30:21   remembering is i know we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9021">TS</a>]

02:30:22   conversation a long time ago about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9022">TS</a>]

02:30:24   five star ratings on youtube before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9024">TS</a>]

02:30:26   youtube switched everybody was either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9026">TS</a>]

02:30:28   giving things five stars or one star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9028">TS</a>]

02:30:30   like that that's what tends to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9030">TS</a>]

02:30:31   with readings that are 5 so like i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9031">TS</a>]

02:30:34   that happens with uber right that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9034">TS</a>]

02:30:35   ratings are like yeah five stars or one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9035">TS</a>]

02:30:36   star yeah i remember being born out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9036">TS</a>]

02:30:39   you giving a thumbs down to her which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9039">TS</a>]

02:30:41   couldn't believe like i oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9041">TS</a>]

02:30:42   thumbs down a strong thumbs dan yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9042">TS</a>]

02:30:44   yeah yes sir i'm some sticking by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9044">TS</a>]

02:30:46   reading but yeah yeah okay yeah just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9046">TS</a>]

02:30:48   be clear yeah I recommend nobody watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9048">TS</a>]

02:30:50   her boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9050">TS</a>]

02:30:54   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9054">TS</a>]

02:31:52   and you did whole you did bite your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9112">TS</a>]

02:31:54   tongue enough so good yeah I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9114">TS</a>]

02:31:57   you thought I bit my tongue enough yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9117">TS</a>]

02:31:58   I let that statement slide and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9118">TS</a>]

02:32:01   compliment to you by the way that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9121">TS</a>]

02:32:03   like that was that was like saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9123">TS</a>]

02:32:04   were very gracious I was I was sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9124">TS</a>]

02:32:07   a fork in my leg the whole time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9127">TS</a>]

02:32:09   don't say anything don't use very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9129">TS</a>]

02:32:10   gracious you were very gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXBtKF4/9130">TS</a>]