00:00:00 ◼ ► we need more investigative journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► known actually I mean with the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► because they got what's-his-name like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► dumpsters to find out what the new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► journalism old fashion journalism on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► this I think first Apple needs to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► out what the new Mac Pro suppose yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► dumpsters and find out like you know too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► bad they don't use paper anymore but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/23">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► like find out there just now having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► meetings about what they might do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/26">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► this like you can get time lines on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► but anyway as time passes and we wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► for wec to appear things could leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► let's you know let's find stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► let's get some engineers drunk let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► find out some answers yeah because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► always works all that gets you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► pre-release iphone yeah that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► thing that works yeah I mean I can spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► it for you right now John you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► going to know until like it launches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► two things that you're going to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/51">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► about and commit yourself not to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► about you're not gonna know the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► ain't not going to know the GPU choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► ah the GPU choice could leak like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► they're using nvidia i feel like i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/60">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► leak right and if they are using nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► they're going to be they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/63">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► using pascal it might leak that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► wouldn't leak like which one they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► using you know that it would leak that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► are using pascal architecture would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► be a question of like which part but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► like even that would be enough like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/74">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► said you know to be exciting it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/75">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► happened in the news this week of april [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► eighth or ninth or whatever right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► know today as we talk has obviously got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► to be april 12 2017 of course this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► rather than talk about the exciting news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► that has happened this week we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► we'd talk more about what has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► say early last week maybe before april [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► sixth indeed yeah we thought we'd just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► do a recap because why wouldn't we and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► and so here we are and so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► happened you know just a couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► ago on the 10th through the 11th we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► going to save that for next week the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► good news is we've covered everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► that we could possibly cover about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► mac pro so we don't have to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/125">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► it until it comes out in 2019 so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► talk about some other things do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► really have no follow-up trademark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► about the mac bro that Casey get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► his little song and dance don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► don't you worry all right I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/137">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► take this seriously because I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/143">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► I'll be murdered if I don't bring up Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► Pro stuff so here we go kids that crunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/146">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► the things I do for you to I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► appreciate me I'm so sorry Casey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► just so sorry for you for during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► time I know this is this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► difficult time to be on on our podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► during Mac for a week and back for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► week a week right you should be me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► Mac Pro's ear yeah i'm going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► this the the year of mac pro and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► just going to keep calling it the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/175">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► of mac pro until they release one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► which might be a whole other year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► uh anyway all right let's do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► follow-up about the mac pro and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► hopefully we can move on techcrunch matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► pans reno and team at techcrunch have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► posted the full transcript of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► meeting i guess he recorded it by some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► mechanism and had hammer one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► people go ahead and transcribe it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► we will put that in the show notes i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► yet to have a chance to even look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► there are definitely parts as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► snark that um that I that I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► interesting that I'd like to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► little more about but I have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► chance yet so you can check that out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► the show notes is that really the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► Mac Pro follow because how many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► topic I see the topic is anyway we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► get to it on the transcript I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► whole transcript and of course surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► surprise the you know the people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► had their reporting on it did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► important information in the transcript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► that you're missing you can read it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► to get a flavor of what they said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► stuff like that but this it was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► covered but you know it's not as if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► left out of major sections that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/241">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► important the only fun thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► transcript as you can see since it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► fairly faithful transcript I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► imagine because it's got all people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► structures and stuff it's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► happens when people speak you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/253">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► particular instance is a Craig federighi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/262">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► difficult to put different components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► and everything and so he talks about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► of that and then he said how they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► put a lot of energy behind that design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and his the next bit is in retrospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► that was dot dot dot and he's about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► say in retrospect that was it that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► mistake that was the right idea that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► not the right thing to do but he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► say that because he's disciplined he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► gets into the sentence for that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► abort abort in retrospect that was new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► sentence while that system is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► customers we want to do more there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► go and fill smiles next to us it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► good job Greggy almost you almost landed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► in it there but anyway they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► disciplined with their message Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► still manages to be funny and witty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► within the bounds of being disciplined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► for PR and Phyllis is Phyllis fell he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► the guy we know and love so if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► have seen a lot of presentations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► the people who are at this meeting then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► you will definitely get the flavor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/328">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► them just reading the transcript and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► don't know much about John Curtis I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► not sure I've ever seen him on stage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► he's the other guy fair enough alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► moving on that's then just like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► we're done with Mac Pro right kids right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► okay so work alone so somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► listen star show had a conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► the support team at work flow and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► received the following email which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► then forwarded on to us the person at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► work flow said you know blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► fix for your problem blah blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► just so you know we have no further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► planned updates for workflow that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/363">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► workflows current functionality have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► plans to end supports let me know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► run across any buds or crashes cue the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► sad trombone here Marco womp womp yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► mean to be honest like you know when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► when workflow was acquired and we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► mention like you know they they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► just let it die or kill it outright and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► you know have have the staff work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► other stuff built into iOS that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► of the the long term idea that was most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► likely to happen I will admit I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► because of the way it was bought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► because of the messaging around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► that it was bought and and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► told the users I did not foresee them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► totally stopping all updates to the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► right now or at least like I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► what what this the other way this reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► it's like they might do bug fix updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► but that's it like no new features are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/417">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► unfortunate but i guess not a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/422">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► surprise you know because like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► that's what happens with you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► was clearly an aqua hire you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► sense that Apple wanted the staff more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► than the product and whether that was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► make the staff work on something boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► like you know Mail app probably not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► was probably to have the staff work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► workflow like functionality you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► automation technologies for iOS that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► know that's that's my guess but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/448">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► doesn't make it any easier to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► basically workflow is effectively dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► in in the sense that no one will really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► be working on it anymore unless they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► want to fix some bugs for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► but that's about it so that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► pretty unfortunate for workflow users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► and i hope i hope that in the end this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► will prove worth it you know like in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► in many aqua hires what happens is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► product gets shut down the team goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► work on something similar within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► bigger acquiring company and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► that sees the light of day and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► eventually comes out of that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► bigger company is not nearly as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► the acquired app was and it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► crapshoot you don't really know so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► hope that this will lead to better stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► in iOS that will replace the need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► workflow for the people who use it today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► but honestly you know that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► most likely outcome the most likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► outcome is iOS stove moves forward a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► little bit you know we get some part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► this in a future version of iOS and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► maybe maybe you know the original staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► who created it goes to work on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► things with an apple or maybe after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► few years they got unhappy and leave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► do something else that's that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/526">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► functionality like workflow or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► something close to it I tell you I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► place much higher odds on workflow being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► an apple-branded application for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► period of time you know like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► would be brought into the fold workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► by Apple as a downloadable thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► App Store possibly bundled with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► future Wes update wild you know while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► they worked on the next integration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► you know and just this is pretty quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► it wasn't like you said the the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► releases and then very shortly after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► yeah we're not doing that in what's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► like 10 days like it has not been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► long yes at times hi I don't know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► I don't know what to make of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► it's just gonna be interesting watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/576">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► writing Python easter spells cause he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► gonna be he's gonna have no other choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► so Mike welcome to our world well no cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► workflow will keep working like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► they will keep it working it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► I've been flowing you know well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► well what are were their major features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► that people want add to work for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► you can you can add workflows people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► distribute those isn't the workflow app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► is just the engine so I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► should last people until something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► comes but so that that's a good outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► but if you were if you were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► features then you're sad well so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► know what if you know in in the past I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► remember like what extensions came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► and I think even sometime last year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► some reason I've discussed on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► how I think the future of you are of URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► scheme usage on iOS is probably limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► because you know now Apple has things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► like universal links which replace a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► of the need for URL schemes for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► average juices and X callback URL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► things like that are used only by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► narrow amount of power users for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► legitimate purposes and there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► abuses that they're used for and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► has slowly clamped down that over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► to the degree that they can with various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► iOS changes like having to declare your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► URL schemes that you that you query for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► in your info type plist file and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► but it's it's no real secret that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► is not a huge fan of URL schemes being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► used for purposes like this that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► guess Apple probably wants to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► them and you know make them actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► impossible for various privacy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► security reasons which is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► reasonable so it would not surprise me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► at all if you know say I maybe not iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► 11 but maybe iOS 12 maybe end support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► for calling other apps via openurl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► can open URL and at that point workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/694">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► would you know they're there are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► other features of workflow as it exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► today it could do other things but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► would lop off such a big portion of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► it could do that I think that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► effectively kill the app and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► by the time Apple does something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► that if they're going to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► like that hopefully they would have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► kind of replacement in mind like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► whatever the workflow staff is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► on an apple now I hope that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► would go but the thing is with big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► companies and with acquisitions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► don't know that's gonna it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► gonna go that way like that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► everyone's intention and plan now but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► big companies things change you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► six months there something else might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► reassigned to work on that and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► anything like that I mean this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► economy's going on here you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► know like I had a early on in insta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► papers days I had a couple of early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► discussions about aqua hires companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/754">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► you know some some of the big tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► companies wanting to buy Instapaper for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► some relatively insignificant amount in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► order to get me to come work for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► and these conversations always stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► pretty early on because at that time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► because it was selling for like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► bucks and then later five bucks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► app store and it was selling pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► and so whenever I would whenever we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► to them to the money part of the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► conversations it would very quickly end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► the conversations because it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► well it for me to stop making this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► from this app you're going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► pay at least X for it and that was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► than they were willing to pay to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► get some engineer to come work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► and the problem is that as the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► economy has gotten worse and as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► you know big handful of tech companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► have gotten bigger and have had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► money and have even tighter competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► for engineering talent the reishi like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► the the economics of this have shifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► so much so that it is very hard for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► app developers to turn down a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► aqua hire deal today because most apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► are not making that much money anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► and these companies can now afford to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► pay a lot for good engineering talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► and they would rather and they're soaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► there's so much competition for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► they would rather do that then then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► know let these apps continue I guess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► so the and again like as the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► of these apps you can't really fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► them because if someone comes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► offering them like you know ten times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► what they're making now per year in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► upfront some to buy their app and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► oh you'll also have a nice stable job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► with us instead of having to rely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► ups and downs of your apps on the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► Store I don't blame developers at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► for taking those offers they you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► many ways like well you can't really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► no to to some of these offers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► they're so good and the only way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► ever going to change is if the economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► of of app development change such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► it is more worthwhile for people to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► their apps and not sell them and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► take jobs somewhere else then to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► but I don't see that happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► near future right if anything I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► things going the other direction just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► assume the work will developers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► gotten to work on the Mac Pro it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► safe bet rent no because apparently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► Mac Pro is only started a week ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► they they went there 10 days ago we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► getting to that we'll get to it oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► word you guys I didn't even start my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► holiday party yet this is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► long show for me probably should we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► sponsored this week by fracture printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► vivid color photos directly onto glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► go to fracture me calm / podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► pick ATP to get ten percent off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► first order fracture lets you bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► special memories and your photos to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► they want to rescue your photos from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► your social media feeds because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► Facebook or Instagram or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► a day or two maybe and then they're gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► they're just into the digital ether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► forever fracture wants you to pull your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► favorite photos out of the digital ether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► and get them printed and hang them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► your wall or give them as gifts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► these these prints look amazing they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► edge to get edge to edge right on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► wonderful piece of glass too thin little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► piece of glass with this foam core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► lightweight on the wall you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► to worry about it like falling off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/955">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► wall and shattering but it looks amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► because it's glass across the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► front surface so you don't need to frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► them or get them custom frame to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► expensive place or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► they are their own standalone thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► your photos look great these look so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► good every time you know we have I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► know probably seven or eight of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► around my on my office now and a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► more than that around the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► every time somebody comes here who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► hasn't been here before they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► complement these fracture Prince's hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► what's that those look great so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► see this for yourself at fracture me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► calm / podcast and if you pick a TP out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► of that list we will get credit for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► supporting you know us and them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► you will get a ten percent discount I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► fracture for all your photo printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► needs and they're so inexpensive to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► can just get one on a lark to just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► how it is there they make great gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► too for all the different various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► holidays you know Mother's Day Father's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► anniversaries they are such great gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► to give a personal photo to someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► it's meaningful to check it out today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► fracture me calm / podcast and pick ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► to get ten percent off thank you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► fracture for sponsoring our show tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► John about a possible explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► increased free space with a PFS on 10.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► if you please continuing the streak of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► PFS follow-up and what are we on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► five shows in a row now I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► we're keeping the streak alive some show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► in the past we talked about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► upgrading to iOS 10.3 and saying hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► have more free space available on my iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► device now and you know that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► been clearing caches or just rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► or other things related to the upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► and not related to the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► itself I heard one theory that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► was worth pondering it has to do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► I thought you guys remember what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► because I think your eyes glad we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► going to talk about a PFS but yep I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► hey it's basically copy-on-write right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► features but the thing they caught refer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► to a space sharing is well is this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► thing where you can have like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► different partitions that both kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► share some space and so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► like whoever fills the first gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► keep it exactly so you got a one gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► disk and you can put two partitions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► it you can put 21 gig partitions on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► you're like how can you put 21 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► partitions on a one gig disk can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► put two partitions that are like 500 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► 500 + 250 or 750 how can you have 21 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► partitions that makes no sense as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► exactly how space sharing works that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► figure with the terms are they call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► container or something and within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► container you could have separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► volumes and they share that space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► like Marco said whoever fills it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► wins right and that produces weird weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► results for saying how much free space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► you have any way so this theory goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► that iOS has I don't know if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► true maybe Marco does although I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► heard it before that as to places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► partition and one is the user space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► partition and they are separate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► each other does that sound familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► Marco honestly I've never looked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► low level at the OS that's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► for seat for Steve trout and Smith not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► me yeah anyway um the idea is that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► there's an arrangement that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► there for a while but with a PFS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► space sharing it changes the way free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► space is reported and that the increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► in free space you're seeing is related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► to that now I tried to think through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► this to say well how does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► exactly what would that do and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► know having the notes your experiments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► required unfortunately because we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► record four days ago I have not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► these experiments but changing the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► space is both shared and reported with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► the file system could possibly account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► for discrepancies in what is reported in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► the u.s. you would think that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► would work this out but you know in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► example I just gave what is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► partitions on a one gig disk and you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► one of them how much free space it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► going to say I have one gig available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► and the ass the other one it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► say I have one gig available that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► of the truth because there's nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► the disk that both technically do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► one gig available but if they were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► both start filling really fast you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► not going to fit one gig into each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► of those things so now you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► like well technically I have one gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► available I didn't lie to you right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► could put what you could put one gig be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► as long as you put nothing in any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► other partitions that are sharing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► same space yeah anyway I I really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► know i wish i had more information to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► provide but i just want to bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► space sharing to remind people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► space sharing a pms is the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► it's weird and it's this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► things where it's difficult from user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► interface perspective to determine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► is the right thing to do it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► operating system to report to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► people's mental model of how space works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► on disks does not match how a PFS file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► you know space sharing works so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► know what they're going to do on mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► iOS you don't this doesn't manifest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► any way that you can see except perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► in this free space thing but further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► news as events warrant maybe next week i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► will have some experiments and next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► is actually two weeks from now oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► goodness alright fair enough can we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► about t-shirts because we've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► little bit of agita with our t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► rolled out this year so you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► been generous enough to spend most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► completely swamped in all aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► life this week so take me through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► pain and suffering that you've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► through to bring t-shirts to our lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► listeners I don't want to go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► pain and suffering but I do want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► that as usual every time we do a t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► launch there's something that's weird or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► wrong and hot about it and we work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► out this time it was about mostly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► size availability where as far as we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► able to determine we had no visibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► into what sizes will be available until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► after we launch it and in that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► when we launched it like the you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► to the size pop-up menu like I pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► shirk that I want now I need to pick my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► size and you will see all the sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► listed all the sizes that we could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► before lunch we can see this shirt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► available from extra small to 3x L right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► and then we launched it and you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► the shirt and you see that pop-up menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► with those sizes in it but only two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► them would be selectable if I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► extra small and some other weird size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► like none of the common sizes would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► available to you and that's bad we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the shirt to be available in all sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► so what we had to do for a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► shirts is sort of delete or end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► campaigns which by the way some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► bought shirts and those campaigns and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► we'll get delivered it is kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► that you you were the one of the two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► three lucky people who got that shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► before we frantically deleted it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► you're sure might be titled ATP shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► delete me in the emails that you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► better if you get an email and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► delete me that's us trying to keep track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► of which ones are the old bad ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► which ones are the new good ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► identical-looking shirts but with shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► from a different vendor who had stock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► all sizes and we've been working on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► working with teespring to get more size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► it's available and recreating them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► so on and so forth all this is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► that have you tried to buy a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► because you heard the show last week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► whenever and you went there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► couldn't find the shirt in the size you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► wanted or the shirt wasn't available in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► any sizes which was true or some cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► like the purple one that I really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► was literally available in 0 sizes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► you could no one could order it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► you could not select any sizes at all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► would let you hit by now and then it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► please pick your size and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► disabled so that's fixed you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► purple shirts now we added a few shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► to be larger sizes because some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► other shirts only went up to 2 XL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► now we have three XL and I think up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► 5xl on the European one so and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► finally teespring is told us that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► stock comes in four different sizes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► different colors those sizes will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► available so technically if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► want to you know wait and check back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► next week or something even if the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► isn't available right now maybe it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► become available so we apologize for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► this it's difficult we'll try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► better next year as always every year we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► have to have something last year it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► really expensive shipping outside the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► this year we do not have super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► expensive shipping outside the US which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► is good but we have some size issues so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► thank you to everybody who's bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► shirts and good luck out there yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► you know last year we had to apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► for the expensive international shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► and this year we're having to apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► for some of these operational issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► we we are sorry that we have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► with this and you have to deal with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► shipping shirts all over the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► complicated and you know we every vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► who does it has different trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► we've now tried you know two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► major vendors and each one has strengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► and weaknesses and you know we've chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► a different set of trade-offs this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► but we have not yet found a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► solution and we hope in the future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► one materializes or that we can tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► things a little bit better but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► meantime we're sorry please buy our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► shirts now thank you one more thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► are thinking about this is not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► happened but the thing that may happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► is that you may get your shirts earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► than you would expect we had said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► these things to be like a time-limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► campaign that we're going to end about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► 20 days from now we're still going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► end it that's still going to happen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► buy your shirts because we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► end this thing right but during the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► potential not a sure thing that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► church could ship like shortly after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► are them instead of having everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► wait till the end of the 20 days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► then all the shirts go out at once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► the reason we're thinking about that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► it it gives you more time to hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► get your shirt in time for ww see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► you're coming or so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► wait so long or if their issues with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► thinking about that and that may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► thing so if your shirt suddenly arrives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► and you didn't expect over 20 days don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► be surprised so apples clips app came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► out today and I think we should spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► lot of time talking about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► it's my turn to talk about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► that I want to talk about didn't I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► that in there way way down below all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► this cool new Mac Pro stuff well guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► what buddy it just got escalated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► actually I don't have too much to say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► I'm really honest with you so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► only going to take a moment but Clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► came out today I played with it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► very very briefly and it's pretty cool I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► like the I don't know what the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► term for it is but the transcribe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► you're saying as you're saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► feature so you can turn on a like text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► mode or it's a little speech bubble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► as you record speech will or your speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► will appear on screen so you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► can hold to record and then as you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► you can make it show the words that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► you're speaking I just did that as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► were recording as I was saying those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► words and it says honda accord instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► of hold while you record so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► already going well I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► automated transcription is still a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► very long way away from being good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► reliably like even you know we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► like not being good at some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► things sometimes but nobody can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► very well yet you know even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► fancy Google algorithms that do YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► transcription and everything like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► they are pretty bad at this so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► going to be a fun little thing finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► like you know funny mistranslation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► people's videos sometimes and otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► it's a cool idea it's a cool use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► technology but yeah it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► pretty imperfect for possibly ever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► not a long time it's going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► people enunciate that's what it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► to do I tried that feature as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► because I was excited to see if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► do the thing that I talked about when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► first talked about clips which is make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► the words appear over the video with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► with a cadence with the purpose like say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► things in a certain way and emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► certain things to have the words appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► with that rhythm and the lag seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► so big I'm not quite sure why whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► it's the you know rendering it on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► the video versus understanding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► speech or whatever but the lag was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► much worse than for example when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► talk to one of Google now or the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► they call it hard work where it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► your words in real time or even Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► these days but Google now was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► one I remember being startled by exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► how fast the words were appearing as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► spoke them that there wasn't a delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► that it wasn't like let me just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► about what you just said and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► appear that it seemed to follow my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► cadence and clips clips lags I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► difficult even when trying to emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► in a very exaggerated rhythm to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► rhythm to manifest in the video so oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► well the people using real video editors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► can continue to dominate in the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► timing of their word appearances and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► transitions but the meantime yeah it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► a cool app and the effects are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► neat and it makes it so easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► something you don't need any expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► production you just need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► tap things on the screen and hold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► finger on a giant red button and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► will make cool videos yeah i like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► i only played with it briefly but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► really impressed with what I've seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► far I also really like I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► covered on connected recently I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► where I heard it but um rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► rather than Apple trying to make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► own social network and do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► ridiculous like that they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► just embracing other social networks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► this is an app to pipe your video into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► faces which i think is really smart did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► you see her that I'm connected what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► we talk about it it's fine damn fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► it's like you thought you're on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► with me when I said that same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► it's fine you can cite connected it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► all a blur monette event follow-up Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► yeah you know they did it's it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► we appropriated it but it was all that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► actually heard that from some wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► connected with what was it bonanza that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► did the the thing with like the echo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► reverb good god no that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► either the prompter connected all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► well anyway someone wrote me to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► totally thought they invented it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► they had a cool sound effect follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► anyway they've been said they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► set straight oh good so anyhow my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► brief playing with this app I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► like it although it confirmed to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► degree that I'm an old man because I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► took me a minute to realize how to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► a video that I created because it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► it wasn't obvious to me that in the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► creation screen is where you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► all your mod modifications and edits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► whatnot and from what I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► have to back out to your like library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► screen in order to actually share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► something which I thought was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► peculiar but you know whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► either way I in my very brief playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► with it I I really really like it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► don't know that i'll use it that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► complaint I have about it which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► is probably for the best is that I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► of wish it wasn't just square so as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► example I had recorded a video of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► and Declan very quickly and I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► share it as an Instagram story and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► I sucked it into Instagram it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► awful and it was like only the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► the of the video and it took me a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► to realize oh it's scaling it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► the video is square but Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► stories annoyingly our portrait only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► so it's just doing the best I can but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► that ruined my video and so that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► little frustrating but to be honest it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► probably for the best that um that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► that it is square because it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► generic I also didn't see a way to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► to twitter but that again could be user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► error and i only looked for a moment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► all in all I definitely liked it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► think it's pretty good they gotta fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► story thing that's not a minor issue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► that like I said the whole point of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► is to is to share another networks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► you have Instagram stories is does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► particular format the app needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► support that in some way you can leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► the defaults is whatever they are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► someone who wants to use this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► primarily as a way to do instrum stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► that is not going to do it if they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► know it just won't feel it won't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► right to not be able to shoot it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► same aspect ratio so get on that clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► steam all right uh let's see what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► has happened recently now that was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► one you get your one that all cheese dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► wow that's how it is hi fine let me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► pass out hi kids have fun I'll see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► I'll see you next week make a drink I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► can't it's all the way downstairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► there's non Mac Pro stuff will clear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► mac pro eventually and come out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► other side in 2019 into the sunlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► where we'll discuss patents and nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► drivers and all sorts of other things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► think we'll make it okay see you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► next week so this is more mac pro ! the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► show notes say i'm pretty sure i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► do that i I you know I didn't do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► think I put the word more in there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► first bit is a rumor that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► how much you know worth too attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► but it is a rumor and it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► reblogged as we used to say all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► place which does not make it any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► true but anyway it's from OS news OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► news com and it is a rumor cited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► people and sources who know their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► that kills confidence that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► means it's true that's that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► rumors should be cited because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► again matches the the reliability this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► says the macro was in limbo in size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► Apple the decision to go ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► replacement seems to have been made only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► in recent months with development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► starting only a few weeks ago so we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► last year we're talking about all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► happened at the earliest during the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► 12 months probably during last six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► months this one says in recent months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► and development started only a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► ago so that is the tightest timeline i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► have seen even suggested and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► goes on to say why why did Apple do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► what why did Apple make them 180 on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► mac pro and the reason cited is a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► specific version of a thing we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► about a lot that apple was surprised by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► the reaction of the macbook pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► different places in a vague sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► Apple thought that everyone was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► love their product and the negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► reaction in the press if not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► sales numbers caught them by surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and so this adds some more detail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► that with some more vaguely source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► rumors after it says after announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► of the new mac pro with the macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► with touch bar orders for refurbished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► old macbook pro supposedly went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► the roof and after the initial batch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► reviews came out they shot up even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► higher so that would be a signal that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► think Apple would pay attention to hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► we've got the new macbook pro a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► bar and the refurbished version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► old one goes up really high now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► believe this you have to a believe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► is founded on anything and be you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► to believe that this is not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► that always happens every time a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► model is introduced which I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► entirely sure because maybe every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► you introduce two new model is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► refurbished ones really quickly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► they want to get their last chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► get the model they know and love but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► anyway that is a suggestion how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► would reflect on the Mac Pro it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► just basically like we thought we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► what pros wanted but we seem to be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► and they say similar combined with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► problems of the LG Display and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► like that and then finally to add more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► exciting on source rumors that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► Marco happy if you can bring himself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► believe in briefly so far I can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► ahead yeah Apple is said to be exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► additional retina macbook pro models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► without the touch bar Oh wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► love that so there's something for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► everybody in this vaguely source rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► but again I you know since since people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► are talking about it like I do believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► that the the new Mac Pro decision end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► project were very recent I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► her believed a few weeks ago but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► recent and I do believe that Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► to the macbook pro with touch bars as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► Apple emphasizes every time you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► them about it including the transcript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► that we cited before the new macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► would touch bar is incredibly popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► and has the most orders ever of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► laptop evel's ever produced people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► it and it's awesome and all the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► are great for it but like so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► things Apple said in that transcript and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► about the Mac Pro and everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► may be true but if you don't update a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► model for a really long time some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► these results fall out of it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► like we're not really selling a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► mac pro screw people buy them well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► haven't updated it in years so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► self-fulfilling prophecy as we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► discussed before and the mac pro pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► touch bar is the best-selling model ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► well again the macbook pro was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► bit overdue for an update so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► pent-up demand for it and the then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► have to map and like the curve like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► mac sales increasing overall I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► macbook pro is a successful product for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► them but again I do believe that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► was surprised by the negative reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► of some of the press about it they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► emphasized in the transcript by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► went back to the well on the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► life of like their metrics say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► battery life for the new macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► with touch bar is better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► outgoing ones I believe that too you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► know what because the outgoing ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► old and the new models are brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► don't feel that I'm sure they factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► that in and I'm sure they can tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► age and normalize for it or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► it's difficult to to hang your hat on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► lot of the stats because every what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► that they say I'm like a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► believe that but I also don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► enough information to to really tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► whether it shows the thing you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► that it shows what they're trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► it shows this name the new macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► with touch bar has better battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► than our outgoing model but you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► given me enough information to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► that all you've said is the stats say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► people are getting better a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► battery life out of it than the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► controlled for the age of the machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► and you know you don't tell me if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► percentiles are what the histogram looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► like and also as well as tough as Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► pointed out many other times you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► fantastic battery life out of these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► models until you do something intensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► and then I tank and I bet if more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► don't do in terms of things people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► aren't playing games with their laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► unplugged because they did their game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► be over in two and a half hours they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► lucky yeah and that would really bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► the numbers down but most people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► don't play and don't do that so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► doesn't show up in the stat so anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► want to go off on that tangent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► that's that's where my men mind went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► when reading this weird rumor believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► if you want to feel good for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► while yeah i mean this this is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► incredibly reliable source this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► like somebody with a great track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► I don't lend a lot of credibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► this basically it lines up with solemn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► the other thing is that we've heard here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► and there but not very strongly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► honestly for the most part it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► really matter I think what matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► Apple is at least you know if we believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► what they said and I don't think we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► any reason not to they were on a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► path before they have finally recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► that and yes they did recognize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► pretty late down that path they did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► recognize they were on a bad path in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► 2013 like it took a lot longer than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► I would guess they recognize it in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► sometime possibly even 2017 but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► is they are on the path to fixing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► something has clearly switched an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► it's like something has clearly flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► over or changed to to make them make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► this decision because before this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► very clear that they were doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► their way what they thought was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► which involved a lot of things that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► involved Singh saying no a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► taking a long time to do pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► everything and ignoring a lot of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► lines and and and to some degree this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► still what they're doing you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► not a lot has changed in in their actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► actions here I think it probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► over the next you know two years or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► as some of the stuff shakes out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► clearly something has changed to to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► them do this 180 on the Mac Pro because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► again like they didn't decide three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► years ago that this design needed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► replaced and it took them three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► plus whatever is going to be nowt to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► it no they decided three years ago to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► stop development Mac Pro and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► looking for what however many you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► whatever time span between then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► within the last few months they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► thought we don't need it we don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► to develop mac pro anymore this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► dead product line it is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► necessary for us to do we won't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► developing in the buzz that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► came on the transcript like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► further emphasized in the details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► they did think about upgrading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► component or that component they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► say that they actually tried it out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► how else would they have known that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► couldn't support like some one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► the people present or one of the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► people present asked them specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► oh so you I think maybe as panzram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► saying so you were thinking like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► could increase the GPU frequency by 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► megahertz because that doesn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► updating it and one of the apple evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► said yes exactly yet that what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► is what happened like so it they stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► developing it in terms of ever releasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► products but it seemed like at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► the beginning they would love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► done a spec bump or component bump but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► they just couldn't do it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► design they had didn't support what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► had decided is basically we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► to invest in entirely new model so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► you can't update this one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► engineer say we can't because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► either tested or ran the numbers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► whatever we'll look into it again when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► the next round of GPUs and CPUs comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► out but in the meantime no you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► have the budget to make a new one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► it's semantics say does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► stopping support or whatever but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► mean that they they they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► liked to have been able to offer speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► embarrassing to offer the same high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► computer for multiple years without not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► making it any faster well I die I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► nitpick a little about that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► gonna go too far into it now for KC sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► but that's buddy but yeah I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► could have done more in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► like they could have updated to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► CPU was thermally fine it was only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► GPU thermal balance that was the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► with that design they could have updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► the CPU to the same model like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► equivalent models in the new families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► and then they could have updated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► GPUs to more mid-range mid temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► models over the years like they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► have to keep selling three and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► year old parts like they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► updated it by using similar class parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► there that they already used in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► competitive with three year old parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► they were saying they didn't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► trade-off was worth it like the yep we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► could have the parts that would fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► there weren't better enough to warrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► it now arguably after three years if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► had merely done that thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► never thought was worth it a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► times then you would be farther from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► where you are or even he wait till the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► end and done it that's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► arguable but you know at some point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► think it really was you know so far on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► the back burner that they weren't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► entertaining updates to it but what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► said in this thing was you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► though we could have made incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► improvements didn't seem worthwhile I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► guess I couldn't justify whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► would take to you know the basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► overhead of ever doing a spec bump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► making new models and doing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► everything they said at face value who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► knows but actually what's actually going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► on and how far along they got with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► kind of upgrades this thing and at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► point they were nixed whether in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► idea phase or after it had been almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► ready for sale you never tell because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► all we see is what they actually release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► right but anyway so the point I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► trying to make is obviously something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► has changed with with apples philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► or the whatever they're using to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► these decisions of whether to invest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► certain product lines whether to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► them or not because they were clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► going in one direction for some time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► they are still going in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► for most the product lines I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► know nothing has changed in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► releases yet but it's pretty clear if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► you look at the release schedule since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► about 2012 everything slowed down and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► seemed like they went from releasing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► much as they could in most the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► lines to releasing as little as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► worrisome and that's what we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► complaining about for years and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► does it seems like whatever was causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► that to be the result maybe a maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► change has happened there in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► thinking or their decision making or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► whatever else something has changed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► make apple flip around on the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► and on displays and have this meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► and tell us what they were thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► I hope that doesn't just apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► placating the media enough for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► thing to say okay well now Apple cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► about us again in the end I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► applies to their entire thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► all their products I'm tired of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► seemingly thinking you know what if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► can't do something incredibly innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► and awesome we're better off just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► nothing you know I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► wrong approach I think they should they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► should be saying yes to things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► simple updates to their products like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► it's one thing to spread yourself too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► initiatives new you know new heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► entire product lines things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► that you could make an argument and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► have that they should you know be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► careful with that because it's hard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► it's a huge risk of spread themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► too thin but it is not hard it shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► you know it if it's hard for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► like update the Mac Mini with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► processor line but the new version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► like if that's hard they've set that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► wrong like they are a huge company with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► tons and tons of money and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► engineering resources they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► able to do what I described last week as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► like boring updates like what if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► a new processor put it in and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► selling it to all the products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► could use it like that there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► reason why they need to do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► what like what the Mac Mini is right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► right which is like sitting around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► ancient parts being neglected the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► he made it worse than it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► there's nothing stopping them from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► a new mac mini except high high up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► somewhere they have decided that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► not worth investing any resources into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► at all and I think that's a mistake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► maybe we'll see something that turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► around again probably not especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► like the mac mini has always been a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► diluted product but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► that's not a good excuse like if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► really wants like to fulfill what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► say they are and make the best products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► for people that they can and only make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► great stuff like they sit that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► they say they do that isn't always true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► but that is what they say to do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► believe that's what they want to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► that is what that is what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► be then they have to set up their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► product line in a way that allows them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► and end their management structure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► their priorities they have to set this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► up in a way that allows them to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► leave things in complete neglect for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► years because they aren't the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► profitable product lines in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► like you know they sell a lot of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► these things all these products like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► we mentioned last week like they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► the one percent or whatever of mac sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► asst is like still like 200,000 a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► and like as many as the B interview x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► like it is worth them if they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► to have a product line at all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► it's worth it's worth them keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► minimally updated and what that means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► not every four years you make it worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► what that means is you keep it updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► every time you can and you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► do a whole new case design you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► like that's that I feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► but like last week discussing about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► like Apple needs like the audacity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► confidence to release boring products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► sometimes it seems like it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► they would rather you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► would rather do nothing and neglect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► something that isn't that exciting and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► just think that's the wrong decision I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► think that they need to start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► either way of like that might be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► for certain products I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► certain like you know mass consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► fashion type of products maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► iphone although that's kind of its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► schedule anyway you know not true the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► watch they just gave that a speed bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► yeah what's your name on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► better stuff on the inside that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► thicker but really I feel like they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► to bring that same philosophy to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► their products of just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► what when when there's like if the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► mini can't be updated at least every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► years you know the stuff goes into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► like every year if the mac mini can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► consider at least every two years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► whatever's current first form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► then it was badly designed and it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► be redesigned at me neither it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► problem with the map really you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► the mac pro can't be updated easily then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► that they then they did a horrible job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► products that that you can say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► about like I feel like they they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► and maybe this is what it to it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► they need to get like some humility in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► the sense that like their designs need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► to be a little more humble and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► to be okay releasing you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► slightly more utilitarian version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► some of these products not all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► but some of them and then they also then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► have to have the confidence as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► last week they have a confidence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► to release a boring Mac Pro update and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► boring mac mini update that's okay no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► one's gonna say Apple kit enemy anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► anybody's ass because the mac mini got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► updated again like that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► that's true at all it's Tyra because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► because the thing he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► speed bumps we have a name for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► because they were so common so so common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► for a long time for years and years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► happened just like model years of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► they were introduced a model and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► there would be speed bumps and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► eventually there would be a new model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► that's fancier in some way that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► Apple products work for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► during that time every time there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► speed bump nobody says oh no Apple can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► innovate anymore because we understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► with speed bumps were the fancy new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/2977">TS</a>]
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00:50:04 ◼ ► Apple decided that speed bumps weren't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3004">TS</a>]
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00:50:22 ◼ ► information that the high-end imac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► the thing that Apple isn't playing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3025">TS</a>]
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00:50:42 ◼ ► products meaning the high-end imac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3042">TS</a>]
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00:50:58 ◼ ► doesn't mean that they're they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► losses but you know good ROI means i put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3060">TS</a>]
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00:51:09 ◼ ► money on speed bump Mac minis to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► bother doing that at all what if we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► don't do it how did the sales look it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3073">TS</a>]
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00:51:33 ◼ ► are the sales look like they go down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3093">TS</a>]
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00:52:01 ◼ ► says they want to make a new Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3121">TS</a>]
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00:54:55 ◼ ► about this particular rumor I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► put too much into it you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3298">TS</a>]
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00:55:03 ◼ ► making a non-touch bar 15-inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► Pro option yeah that does just trolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3305">TS</a>]
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00:55:14 ◼ ► touch bar that much I would just given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► the choice to get it or not get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► now I chose not get it and they're added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► like that's due to other factors also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3321">TS</a>]
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00:55:24 ◼ ► the the 13-inch that comes in both touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3324">TS</a>]
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00:56:05 ◼ ► it is higher so I could see them may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► offering you know in in the next update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► to the macbook pro generation whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► that comes I don't know if it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► know when the chips are coming out maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► this fall or next spring who knows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► whenever that happens it would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► surprise me if they made an entry level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► 15 inch model that was maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► 1999 and that one had no discrete GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► and no touch bar to hit that price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► the 15 inch escape yeah basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► know it cuz in the past they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► they've done that with the GPU selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► which I've talked about before where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► generation everything the and even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► one right before that they had like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► base model which was about two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► bucks had only the Intel integrated GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► and you had to spend a few hundred more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► to get one with a little bit more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► in an end to discrete GPU and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► not surprise me at all to see them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► the same thing here she just give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► another one that is 1999 so people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► stop complaining about the price and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► a few things cut out of it and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► them would probably be this discrete GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► and one of them might be the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and that would be totally fine like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► that wouldn't be because quote everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► hates the touch bar it would be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► they want to hit a price point yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► did also mention the transcripts people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► have some questions about ports they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► didn't say they were going to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► entertain this idea but it was mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► as an idea that exists just like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► mini as a product that exists in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► lineup of having a macbook pro like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► legacy ports like that the only things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► on the side of it wouldn't be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► Thunder ball three USB a few things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► was there was brought up as a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► and Apple didn't immediately shut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► door and say we are never doing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► that's you know in the Apple it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► wow they're entertaining the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► possibly having a macbook pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► different ports on the side of it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► an SD card slot I don't would hold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► breath for it but you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► Apple does like they said they make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► product we do the best we can see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► people think of it what their behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► indicates and then for the next one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► know they said for the next one we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► going to do better and we'll take what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► we've learned and you know and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► suggestion sounds totally plausible both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► because it makes sense from a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► perspective and also because if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► what people are telling them based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► like you know this rumor of buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► refurbished ones or people buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► escape or whatever they'll do that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► fill a market need and the same by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► same token like this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► didn't get too much discussion in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► Articles that was mentioned a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► apple said and we've been hearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► for a while that they went they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► been going out to Pro users reaching out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► to just regular people like hey you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► our products in a pro capacity tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► about it for a long time now leading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► to this Mac Pro announcement and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► this stuff like that all the time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► just just knowing that it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► they're gonna make a new mac what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► do that all the time like they say even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► when you just go to the apple store buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► a new mac get new iphone sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► whatever but they were going to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► and saying tell us how you use our pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► hardware what do you like about it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► do you not like about it what things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► important to you what things are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► important to you to try to gauge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► know whether they should make a new mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► pro and the decision they came to is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► they should and probably like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► you think about the new macbook pros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► what you know if we made a new one what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► would you want to see in it and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► like that so they're they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► job they're doing what they're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► to be doing and hopefully we'll see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► feedback loop closed with the next round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► of macbook pros and I mean I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► to call like if the next round of macros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► has the 15 inch escape and has an SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► card slot and has better batteries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► they supposedly couldn't fit in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► for some reason I forget that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► the model or it was another one that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► rumor was about anyway if they come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► with that it doesn't mean that they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► a terrible mistake and have fixed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► just means they're making their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► better over time that's what they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► do but for the mac pro I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► that this Mac Pro that comes out that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► Yeah right Ellen yeah is elevated is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► holder of the coveted title of apology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► Mac Pro right alongside the apology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► mouse people don't remember the apology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► mouse is the mouse apple released was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► much fanfare after subjecting the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► to the completely circular puck based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► mouse on the original iMac and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► apologized for that by making a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► that was not completely circular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► therefore easier to a line and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► under everybody seat at a macworld expo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► keynote and i got one because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► there and the mouse wasn't undo seat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► was like a little card and you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► back of the room and gives him on a cart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► and they give you an apology mouse and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► still have it and it's awesome and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► would love an apology mac pro and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► looks like i'm going to get one well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► you're going to have one released are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► you going to buy one area luckily get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► one unlike if it's not going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► card under my seat at ww sees as i get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► free one but yeah oh and i'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► topic of other were i'm skipping a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► of the mac pro a more mac pro topic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► your case but what i mean though that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► too bad no one thing i want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► about is this from we want to hit every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► single person who was in that meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► he's always like five journalists this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► is from lancelin off at Mashable he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► quoted this because I didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► transcript of time but let's give him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► credit he be reported and I pulled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► out when I asked if Apple might consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► a touchscreen Mac Shilla shook his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► and said no he told me it's simply not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► big request from Mac Pro customers we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► talking to them and the things they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► most interested in this doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► register he had you can see the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► quotes in the transcript if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► interested but it was basically he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► like cut them off and like said no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► touchscreen Mac this is not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► customers interests and have it know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► what customers are interested is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► they're talking to them right this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► great example of I feel like if I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► that meeting I mean I don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► it's hard to say what you were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► your in these meetings but in a relaxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► environment where I didn't feel pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► to be well behaved I would say but come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► on guys you know you can't just ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► customers what they want like new yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► you have to do that but customers don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► always know what they want until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► showed them no one would know customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► would have ever requested the iphone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► guess what when you made it there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► yes that if you ask them what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► wanted they would have been like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► fancier version of whatever nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► smartphone they had right now right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► don't I think Matt custom Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► customers aren't requesting a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► screaming but if it turns out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► surface to do is a good idea that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► legs by the time your customers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► requesting it it's way too late because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► of because of the the things you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► have to do to your OS or you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► your to App Store economy depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► whether you're trying to make a mac into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► that or make an iOS device into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► will take you a long time so Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► should not be asking its customers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► you know not be deciding just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► its customers don't want one now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► it's not a good idea clearly Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► thinks it's still not a good idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► I'm sure that experimented with and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► sure they use the service studio prop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► they even even a dumped on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► studios like a drawing experience like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► they basically said the ipad pro has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► better drawing experience i'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► you mean more responsive and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► parallax because you did this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► like which is true right it totally true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► but I you know they may be right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► not that the surface to do idea it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► community but the reason I would cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► for that is not that the first iteration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► of this has flaws versus some existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► tech because that's just like I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► know a PR whatever like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► version of everything is wonky right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► know the first Mac web was Ram starve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► the first iphone like didn't even shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► video right you know so you can't cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► that right that doesn't mean and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► also can't site of our customers aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► asking this of course they're not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► for they're never going to ask for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► visionary next big thing is they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► know they want it yet but if the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► studio starts getting penetration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► eventually they will be saying hey I why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► don't you have something like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► maybe Apple will say take this humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► iPad pro and try to find pearl apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► it or something so anyway that bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► me a little bit because I don't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► say no and then you're not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► about it is fine but to cite those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► reasons like those are those are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► those are not reasons that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► convincing to you internally if their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► reasons you want to pair it back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► press to give explanations that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► but I really hope internally like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► does that fear I get especially want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► hear people who are good at talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► the press at Apple the fear I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► they believe their own hype that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► reasons they give externally for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► are also the reasons they use internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► to justify their decisions which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► sincerely hope is not the case because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► so many of the reasons are our bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► reasons you know like they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► like their their Apple 101 bad reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► like the whole history of Apple shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► this is not how you should be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► decisions because every success you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► you know defied these or even just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► plain old you know ed catmull creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► and success hides problem reasons what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► evers like it's fine to tell them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► other people but i really hope you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► believe like because this first server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► studio has technical flaws that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► why it's a terrible idea if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► to say we've tried the idea internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and we found out that it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► which they have said in the past that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► least I give more credence to because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► shows you are seriously pursuing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► idea but anyway that bothered me I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► think the server studio is an idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► has some potential some artists also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► agree I just hope apple doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► caught flat-footed on this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► again it's not like oh well so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► becomes accessible Apple can make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► platform thing to resolve to ever ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► anything like that they have to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► whether it's a mac or an iPad and either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► decision they make their a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► other software and ecosystem things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► have to do to make that work yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► like everyone I've known who has bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► a surface to do or used one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► granite this is not a large group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► people but you know it's like people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► Twitter and stuff the responses are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► are pretty consistent which is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► really cool there's really something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► this but windows sucks like we we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► know that I really like this is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► surprise to anybody listen to this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► and I like no likelihood but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► there is clearly like you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► something there's something here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► think if Apple chose to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► with that they might be able do a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► good job with it I mean there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► certain limitations there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► every computer input method has weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► limitations to it the ipad you know has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► problems with text entry unless you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► keyboards but that's a weird hack you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► know the computers have problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► you know direct interaction and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► leash in like at least there's all sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► of like everything you do is get it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► going to be imperfect but i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► know the the kind of the model for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► modern computing and devices and in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► the last decade has really just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► like well you know what we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► embrace that we can't get this perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► and we're going to make things anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► the best we can that take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► leave what they aren't to other devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► so like you know because if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► if you weren't willing to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► way tablets wouldn't exist because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► tablets are this this kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► hybrid that is good at certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► computers are good at terrible other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► things are good at and but but they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► do things the computer can't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► it's like it when apple says like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► this this we've tried this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► doesn't work it can't be done there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► lots of problems or whatever you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► have said the same thing about tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► in 2009 but they made the ipad anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► they found a way they found like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► slot for it to fit in in the way people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► use things they there there were things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► that it was really good at and that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► it worth doing despite all the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► downsides of tablets and those downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► are still there today but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► matter because the things that good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► it's really good at for certain people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► and so any kind of like touch or pen Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► hybrid might be the same thing it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► be like you know this is kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► for these reasons over here but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► really good at these things and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► the surface studios you know slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► success among among some artisan stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► shows that to be the case that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► know the drawing on Windows is weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► know using a pen and touched on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► giant you know like drafting table form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► factor pc running a PCOS is weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► does have downsides but it also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► really cool upsides so there I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► there might be something there and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► unfortunate if there was something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► and Apple wasn't able to or wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► willing to find it and deliver it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► because they either are making bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► assumptions or that they aren't willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► to tackle the you know the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► integration costs that would result in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► doing this kind of like Mac iOS touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► kind of hybrid OS and because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► aren't small problems you know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► big problems but but I do think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► be kind of a shame if there was really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► product here to be had that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► really useful to some people and that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► weren't ever going to get it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► these other issues you know that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► one of the other things I'm concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► about is it does kind of seem like at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► increasing pace Apple is being surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► by customer reactions to what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► and that's a little concerning like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► keep like you know first like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► know with with the the 2016 MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► those came out and were you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► met with a lot of ambivalence from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► people head and a lot of criticism and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► lot of anger that they weren't certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► other things and an apple was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► allegedly they were like shocked by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► that they were like we thought this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► and you know say the touch bar think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► thought we thought this was amazing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► it seems like it's actually not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► well-received like what how did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► possibly happen why is it so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► from what we expected and similar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► the mac pro you know it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► if you kill your pro hardware line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► slowly over years with you know neglect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► after releasing and already polarizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► product then it turns out people get mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► who like the old thing or one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► current things stay current and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► seemed greatly surprised by that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► that reminds me of something else that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► forgot to address there on that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► topic of hey you know what happens if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► you don't up you're at you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► Mike proprio it's not one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► they cited in this very strange lead-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► that I think a few of the journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► over there noted is very strange lead-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► to this announcement of this meeting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► let me tell you how few people use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► mac pro and let me tell you how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► pros use other products how many pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► use MacBook Pros uh i think i flubbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► that let me tell you how many people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► not use the mac pro and instead write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► use imax or macbook pros right that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► their whole intro if you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► transcript it was all about that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► it's like and this is a thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► they're going to announce guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► we're making a new mac pro if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► just heard the intro it's like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► leading up to them telling us why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► don't need to have a micro anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► because they're saying look at all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► pros and we're defining probes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► someone who uses a pro app at least once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► a week or someone who uses it every few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► weeks and they does all you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► number one piece of hardware used by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► prose is guess what the macbook pro the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► number two piece of hardware you buy our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► pros guess what the imac right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► distant third is this mac pro such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► small percentage all that a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► but if you don't update the mac pro for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► three years of course they're gonna flee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► elsewhere of course they're gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► buying I maxamed but what choice do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► have what choice like and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► totally understand from PR perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► this is this is the line this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► internally that they they have there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► clear-eyed about all this and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► tell they're not going to tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► but they talk about in their boardrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► what do they put up in their slides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► I really believe they are clear I've is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► it remember they had like a leak of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► like slideshow many years ago samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► thing about it like like we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► bigger phones and customers want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► yeah right we'd we do not have what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► customers want we need to make a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► phone yeah yeah that's that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► talk to yourself internally in a healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► way and I'm sure they do but like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► when you only get the external like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► you know the party line of like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► what we have to tell you it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► worried sometimes because it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► hard like they'll they'll never they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► never tell you what they tell themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► internally and you just worry that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► believe in their own height because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► are so consistent and disciplined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► their message to the outside world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► because they choose to offer up these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► things like this that are just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► instantly refutable like oh people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► are moving to I'm accent and macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► pros like well duh like like why even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► tell us that aren't we all smart here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► don't of course they're moving to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► what else are they gonna do I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► could go to Windows is the other choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► right which is also happening by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and you're not going to tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► that so that anyway sorry to derail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► there yeah anyway so all that is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► that it it it certainly has seemed in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► recent times that Apple seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► increasingly surprised that people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► universally loved what they brew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► concerns me and I hope in in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► has kind of flipped around or changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► that has caused them to decide to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► Mac Pro again and to start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► really serving pros well hopefully again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► whatever whatever has changed to cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► that I hope it has also fixed whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► was causing them to put out products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► with with a very different internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► impression of what was going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► or how they're going to be received then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► what public actually delivery because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► like Apple should not be that caught off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► guard by their reactions to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► products you know Apple is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► most of the time at product design they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► have a huge history doing it very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► the track record is very very good they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► have incredible talent within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► company you know and like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► they're going to do something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► Apple TV remote that is incredibly bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► just terrible good thing they update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► Apple TV every year so that will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► deal with that bad remote for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► time right yeah like to get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► like that out into the world there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► people inside of the company who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► clear-headed enough to look at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► say you know what this is kind of a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► idea and here's why but for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► they weren't listen to so I just I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► something that whatever has changed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► caused this Mac Pro thing is also going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► to let them be a little bit more honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► about their own product reactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► internally before they decide to release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► things or go ahead with things so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► they are less surprised when the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► doesn't love every weird beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► useless thing they release chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► points out a quick real-time follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► that federighi said and the things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► Mac Pro sales didn't fall off that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► what I said before when I said oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► releasing Mac Pro and trash can and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► sales are kind of level it's another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► of those facts that could be a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► percent true but it doesn't tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► what the initial value was so if the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► the trashcan Mac Pro was only appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► to a certain very small subset of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► and those people were trapped into but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► repeatedly buying it year after year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► even though it didn't get updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► without result in flat sales and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► it's such a small percentage it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► result in look how many people who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► classify as pros according to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► wheeled met weird metric by our much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► more popular machines well of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► they do those are your most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► machines and you know like anyway stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► that are true but do not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► prove the thing you're saying that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► prove it's it's a frustration yeah we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► ahead ukz now it's some it's curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► tread reason through what Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► thinking with regard to their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► and how they're received because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► know anyone I've ever spoken to us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► has spent any amount of time as an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► he's vehemently said that their biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4535">TS</a>]
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01:22:46 ◼ ► according to Apple fifteen percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► frequently whatever that definition is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► be that daily or multiple times a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► or what have you and then another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► fifteen that uses them at least a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► times a month and I just thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► was a really fascinating statistic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► I never expected to come out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► meeting yeah that's that's a lot higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► than I would have guessed for is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► know especially like the thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► total that's kind of amazing well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► didn't clearly communicate that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► if you read the transcript and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► much debate about this but many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► interpreting but now having read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► transcript it is no more clear to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► question is first one is clear fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► percent use use what they classify as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► pro app at least once a week totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► clear the second one is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► because they say this group of users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► uses a pro app like once every few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► or whatever was some longer period and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► the question is does that second group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► of users include the first Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► clearly thinks it does because whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► Apple said was thirty percent use it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► know in the longer period and 15 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► shorter but I can't tell up the 15 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► part of the 30 like other exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► groups are they inclusive and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► can't tell if the total is thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► communicated that better like perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► than text or in some other fashion or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► could have been clarified so depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► on how you interpret what they said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► the transcript and I think it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► difference are are forty-five percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► mac users classified as occasional or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► frequent Pro users or is it thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► percent and 15 of them are once a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► either way these are very nice high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► numbers higher than I would have guessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► but Apple pics what it means to be a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► user they use a pro app which they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► tell us what it is that it's that oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► know like one of those apps use to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► things right well I think it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► it's pretty clear that what they mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► pro app is anything Apple makes it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► in pro so logic pro Final Cut Pro also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► probably like I would say adobe creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► suite apps make sense there and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► it was also very clear they meant xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► and that includes a lot of people yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► would agree with all of those but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► how many other things are in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► categories they didn't give us an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► exhaustive like you're just going by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► their metrics and I bet they're picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► something pretty broad for example there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► could be just one application that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► frequently used that they happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► classify as pro that pulls up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► average everything else these are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► know we have no visibility duties the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► Apple has all the information so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► surprised that number it sounds about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► what I would think they would because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► their very broad definition of pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► everything you defined like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► think that's brought but I'm gonna try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► to think of like one other applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► they could throw in there there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► like oh if you if you ever launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► terminal you count as a pro app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► millions of people who are launching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► terminal just so they can use their mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► desis a Shinto something to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► and they're not using their makina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► Procope asset it's it's a you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► a glass TTYL is we used to say back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► the day and that is not a pro use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► because you can do that from the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► adorable and it works fine but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► classify terminal as a pro app suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► that brings up your numbers play pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► a state of mind oh my goodness alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► what else do we have to talk about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► regard to the mac pro well we can move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► on to the imac pro because there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► another completely on source rumor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► this is a place where we're dumping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► all on the show right this is from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► of them on this episode yet all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► everywhere i'm surprised like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► reblogging i thought that the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► blogosphere had gotten over that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► unsourced rumor and some random thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► it everybody else will grab it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► you'll see it appear on every site and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► sometimes you'll have to like pour over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► the site to try to figure out they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► signing that one thing i read on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► totally unsourced vlog and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► they don't link to it and sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► don't source it until the very end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► you trying to figure out and you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► in so many places like well it must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► true i seen every mac side i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► it's been telling me about this these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► the specs of this new imac pro like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► trace it all back and it's just this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► source thing anyway this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► unsourced thing is giving us supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► specs for the imac pro and this one says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► it will have a intel III 1285 v6 i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► no idea what the hell that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► nothing yeah i think is ram upgrade over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► 32 or 64 ECC memory faster SSDs and up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► to two terabytes of the SSD size and AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► graphics with support for VR and pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► apps whatever the hell that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 USBC gentoo with tada a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► brand new keyboard for Casey oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► something for everybody alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► basically just to summarize quickly here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► Xeon e3 it might as well not be as easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► on the Xeon e3 is only barely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► from the consumer chips the imac already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► uses the only thing that we get you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► support for ECC ram that's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► though that's so that that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► something but and so like that i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► like you know if if the imac pro which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► you know i just assumed whenever we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► I'm night pro its and thinker quotes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► if the imac pro is something to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► like you know heavy horsepower then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► that's not gonna do it you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► that's that's what the old imac already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► has had if it's something to add check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► marks to make pro stop complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► certain things it helps a little bit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► that area in this is in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► it enables ECC ram but that's about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► and thunderbolt three and USBC like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► assuming it has a lot of pci express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► lanes does i don't know i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► don't think it has any more get you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► to go to the e5 series like they they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► i'm pretty sure has the same pci express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► configuration as the regular i7 high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► chips because it really is just an i7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► with like ECC compatibility basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► there's there's there's really nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► else to it that's that's literally all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► it is it is a way you know the III line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► it is mostly it mostly exists to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► cheap server options because it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► servers almost always want to ECC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► you know server needs almost always use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► that like in data centers and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► it's a way to basically bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► wonderful economy and power of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► into cheap 1u rackmount servers so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► there's not really a huge benefit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► that's why I like remember like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► two years ago they started selling not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► they not Apple but like the pc enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► start selling xeon laptops and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► the same kind of thing it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► based it was like using this III line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► where it's like yeah that's that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► really anything more than what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► before it's not really anything more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► than the consumer line so that's same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► thing here like it would enable ECC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► that would be the only advantage that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► would have over what we already have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► imac that being said it would also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► require any additional thermal head room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► because it isn't a bigger chip it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► it doesn't have more cores it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► have a higher tdv like you know it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► be very easy for apple to configure an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► imac with an e3 so if the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► imac pro is to do as little work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► possible and check off a few more boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► for pros while changing almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► about the imac then okay maybe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► that's probably not like that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► be a very compelling product for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5398">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► anybody so i hope that isn't what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► they're doing i hope they're doing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► than that well if it's the only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► comes with Thunderbolt three in USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► then something that becomes a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► attractive because it's not just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► who are looking for pro we're buying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► it's like anybody who wants basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► modern 105 k imac would buy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► well if that's the only one that has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► the new ports on it I'll get it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► they want that fancy new keyboard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► other other ancillary rumors attach this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► and I keep seeing this and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► traced this back to the origin to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► fantastical origin but the 8k display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► apples working on an 8k display for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► next generation of macros 8k display has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► been floating around for a long time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► that thing something that anyone is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► asking for will tell just shipped one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► you see like Dell just shipped 145 grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► I know I know all right so yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► but my question is like you like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► it does the size math work out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► something reasonable like like how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► would it have to be to keep the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► DPI yeah like I think would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► like 40 inches would it would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► pretty big I i think you know we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► learned from past monitor things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► some some like current day ones where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► you know like you have like that one LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► like super wide 35 inch or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► yep so like we've seen like kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► know rough idea of what these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► what monitor sizes are and what works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► and what doesn't we can we can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► agree actually I'm curious John because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► you're probably the contrarian here what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► do you think is the largest you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► inch diagonal measurement that that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► single monitor could reasonably be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► practical desktop computer use where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► wouldn't have to sit so far back from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► that the resolution would be wasted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► probably be maybe like 32 inches maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► at most 35 what do you think I would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► up to 42 because I know people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► televisions as their monitors obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► the resolution is horrendous right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► they're using like actual televisions as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► their monitors because they can get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► me really big sizes and why because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► you have any kind of vision impairment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► you can't buy a computer monitor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► makes things as big as you want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► doesn't make it look like you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► through a tiny little portal so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► will get a 42 inch television and putted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► it like a resolution that we would run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► 23 inch display at and keep it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► normal computer distance from them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► just let them see things better so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► surprisingly big but but that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► be a use case for 8k though ak is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► talking about like right now you but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► just asked about the inch sizes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► now in case specifically the reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► reason I'm skeptical the 8k thing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► because I think 8k is not a thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► but just when I envision Apple making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► monitor for its Mac Pro I envisioned 8k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► as a thing that only people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► working like at ILM yet so they can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► at their 8k video you know composites or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► whatever like that you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► are working with source material shot an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► 8k but traditionally Apple has left that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► market to like the super duper high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► color calibrated weird monitors with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► hoods over them and like like that type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► of thing Apple has never sold one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► those they've always sold a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► monitor for regular people it has great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► color calibration but always during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► entire history of Apple if you go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► very fancy place that even just does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► stuff with Photoshop or with special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► effects or whatever you will see one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► those really weird i don't think any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► seam makes a bunch of them or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► one of those really weird monitors just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► for this specific industry and right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► I feel like 8k is in that category the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► k our people who are shooting 8k footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► who want to see it displayed in 8k so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► you want it k monitor but like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► going to be sad if Apple makes one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► think it'll be awesome but that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► such like such a narrow thing that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► is going to go from we're not making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► matter at all to guess what i'm making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► an 8k one and to get back to where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► were saying Marco if they do make an 8k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► one I hope it's not the only one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► i really don't i personally don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► actually want a 40 inch monitor and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► think 8k at 27 or 30 inches is overkill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► for my needs so if they only make an 8k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► monitor it's going to be super expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► and be oh god I probably actually buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► too would not like oh you would it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► it's not what I want out of modern I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► thinking they're going to make a 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► display because I think 5k is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► spot where Apple usually makes monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► and they leave a k2 Dell and NEC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► viewsonic and whoever else is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► these monitors for for professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► things that you can already buy today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► but we'll see the 8k rumor won't die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► anything else on the mac pro kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► there's always said you why do you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► keep asking that you know if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► stopped asking that and just moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► you would like catch us off guard no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► because that there's more unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► perkasie two related stories that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► in the notes last week or what least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► of them was and we didn't get to it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► may or may not be related the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► recent one is Nvidia's announcement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► their new graphics cards have mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► support and you're like what what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► mean by that there are no max with card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► slots what are you talking about how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► you have mac support but it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► yeah all those cheese graters yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► can put these things in there so Nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► is offering drivers for its Pascal based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► GPUs that's their latest architecture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► GPUs and this is the the titan nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► titan XP as their product they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► launching but the drivers they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► will work with any pascal based GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► apparently on the mac and why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► do that I mean people will choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► graders can buy them and you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► people with hackintosh is right we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► to run mac OS and do all this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► Apple didn't ship drivers for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► because they don't ship any machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► I'm aware like it do they have a Pascal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► base 11 of the portables I forget maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► the chat room people tell me but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► anything right now apple an apple an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► nvidia had seemed to have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► major fallout and they I think they ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► ati stuff or AMD stuff now everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► which is kind of a problem like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► we we keep hearing I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► what you're going to say if you're gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► sales but we keep hearing from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► who know this stuff that like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► NVIDIA has has kicked AMD's butt so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► and GPUs and things like GPUs like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► like parallel computing cards recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► that Apple really really apparently if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► they want to be competitive in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► high-end GPU areas they should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► consider going back to Nvidia and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► seems like for for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► business disagreement or history they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► have been unwilling to do that so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► but maybe they should reconsider now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► they're try to address pros better so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► that balance of power between AMD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► NVIDIA it has swung around it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► Intel and AMD where Intel just dominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► it has come back from the bruising of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► the athlon age as we discussed in a past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► show has just dominated for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► and like rising is just like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► turn around possibly now but AMD Nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► have traded the lead many times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► specifically for apples purposes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► talking about the highest the high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► which Apple has been ignoring anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► very often the ati or AMD part actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► is the right choice for specific things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► but if your concern is i want the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► performance in a given thermal envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► or whatever and that thermal envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► isn't really really low nvidia is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► currently the leader that could change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► with the next generation of GPUs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► either way Apple has nothing in any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► its product and hasn't for many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► high-end GPU none just they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► don't sell them they didn't even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► the 2013 trashcan Mac Pro was brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► the day it was released today was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► announced for that matter you could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► faster cards and put the new pcs single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► cards double cards everything I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► you and at the time i bought the 2008 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► mac pro and you could for two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► dollars get an nvidia 8800 GT and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► time that was like an upper mid-range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► card and we're like oh that's Brett's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► nice option thanks yeah it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► decent car long time ago yeah and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► third-party people like buying pc cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► and flashing the firmware and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► it was just a matter of like does apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► support this GPU architecture because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► they supported it sometimes the drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► would work with the higher end cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► that were just overclocked or just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► more vram and stuff like that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► this announcement by nvidia has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► people thinking maybe maybe the new pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► that apple just admitted they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► creating like three days ago maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► going to use pascal base GPUs and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► you know what that would be awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► i hope it does because they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► good right but i can't draw any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► same connecting line between nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► supporting max with its current crop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► lines and anything that Apple's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► do by its as-yet-unknown to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► outside Apple Mac Pro project so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► sincerely do hope that an option on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► new Mac Pro is the highest of high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► video cards from Nvidia because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► would be awesome and they kept talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► about how people want a single really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► fast GPU and this is sing a really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► EPO for all we know Apple could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► made a deal with NVIDIA for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► develop these drivers because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► that's that's the only line i can draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► is like why the heck is envy doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► are they so desperate for money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► they want the seven people who have hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and dodges to buy this card and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► in right like what why because making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► drivers for making mac drivers for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► video card is non-trivial it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► difficult thing to do working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► different from windows and for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► benefit so maybe there was some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► agreement or money changing hands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► have nvidia do this sometime in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► past-- and they're just like well while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► we wait to be in the new mac pro will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► sell this to people or whatever i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► know but anyway i'm excited about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► people who have cheese graters who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► more that are more modern than mine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► actually run this i believe i can't run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► this in mind because i think it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► more pieces you can even run sierra you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► know yeah I can hear it anyway this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► announcement for a very small group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► mech nerds I'm excited by the prospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► of a very super high-end GPU and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► you're dramatic pro but for now I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► I can't connect the dots on this to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► that this means anything about what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► GPU the next Mac Pro is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► and related to this is the older story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► which is about apple moving away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► imagination the power be our power VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► GPUs that it uses in all of its iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► products for many many years speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► of GPUs Apple's GPUs in its iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► amazingly good they always show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► graph that shows look how crappier GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► were in the beginning of the of the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► devices before we even called it iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► look at this curve every time we come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► with the new product the GP was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► super duper faster it's like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► linear it's like going up like a hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► stick if we are kicking butt on GPUs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► look what we can do with these games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► you know and it's true they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► doing a really good job with the GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► and for I think for the entire life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► iOS devices they have been using power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► vr base GPUs with intellectual property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► license from imagination technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► imagination technology put out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► press release is very sad angry press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► release that's like Apple tells us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► they're not going to be using our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► intellectual property anymore and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► by the way is like more than fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► percent of our revenue but we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► basically it's impossible to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► modern GPU without infringing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► intellectual property which by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► is another reason the patent system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► ridiculous I like little biz Apple no is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► literally impossible to make a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► GPU without our intellectual property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► right so we own these ideas forevermore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► or like whatever the ridiculous term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► limit is on patents but Joanne patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► are to foster innovation without patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► nobody would innovate no one would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► be able to make a GP without these ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► that are not obvious to everybody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► what is it obvious to people verse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► well versed in the art anyway I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► patents but but apple says there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► are not licensing this technology which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► means that Apple is going to make GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► or when you know whatever they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► they're not going to make GPUs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► they're going to make GPUs license from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► somebody else or they're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► their own Apple has as Phil Schiller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► points out or one of the people points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► out one of the best chip design groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► in the world arguably the best going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► based on how good their system-on-chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► are for their devices and like have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► seen like have you seen liked hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► benchmarks of the new samsung s 80 River [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► it's like it matches the performance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► like the iphone 6s like two generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► behind and yeah their apple is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► amazing like they're making these chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► themselves yes its arm its arm based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► technology and they have that license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► from arm to use the instruction set and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► all that other stuff or whatever and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► their licensing GPU stuff from power boo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► yarbrough but Apple make no mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► Apple is designing these things ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► since the the confusingly named swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► CPU actually it was the first one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► they really like did themselves from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► scratch as the iphone 5 right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► they're they're doing amazing so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► zero doubt that if Apple wanted to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► have the in-house expertise to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► amazing GPU for the next iPhone whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► or not infringed on patents who the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► knows what the lawyers fight it out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► the camels going to win that one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► they have more money and that's how our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► legal system works like you know what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► you imagination we're going to buy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► company done and done we win and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► and that's their worst case scenario so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► Apple will not lose this or they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► be licensing someone else's think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► combining the new Mac Pro rumor which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► now it affects everything but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► discussed at surrounding the Mac it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► like does this mean Apple is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► make their own GPUs for the new Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► and while I think that would be amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► and fantastical i'm going to say Noah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► yeah that makes no sense because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► Apple already doesn't like the ROI on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► the Mac Pro reportedly and and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► they seem to not like it so much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► didn't even make one they just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► decided to make one the if Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► making a GPU architecture they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► it for iOS devices and I have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► time believing that the GPU design could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► even be adapted from iOS devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► something like the new mac pro so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► thinking the new Mac Pro will not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► I'm hoping it will have a super I an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► NVIDIA GPU or at least the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► whatever the best architecture is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► AMD has Africa what this is called is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► Maxwell and I remember maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► another end video on and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► the the imagination rumor is connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► to the mac pro either it does make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► kind of excited about what the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► iPhone you know and the GPUs are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► to look like they're because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► presumably Apple is ditching imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► for some benefit and I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► benefit is the relatively piddling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► amount of money they pay it's like only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► so only 75 million dollars a year which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► technologies apparently is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► the Apple is their biggest customer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► like more than half of their revenue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► Apple sneezes in 75 million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► comes out and falls on the carpet like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► thought that's how much they got so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► they they spend for snacks at the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► defunct Apple car project right yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► I think they wanted to do it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► same reason they do or they want I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► to control the blah blah blah technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► blah blah blah and I bet they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► good ideas about you know that that chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► team is like we have some good ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► about how to do a GPU in ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► are there our own our own ideas why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► don't we do it why do we need this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► imagination technology stuff anymore we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► have all the expertise in-house to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► an amazing GPU ourselves we don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► them anymore it will free us up to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► what we want now there's a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► good articles about this is saying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► right so Apple could do this but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► is an entire software ecosystem built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► around the power of the architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► that take advantage of features of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► power of ER architecture that are tuned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► to work well on that architecture in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► terms of you know for games you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► really low level type of stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► things that perform particularly well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► a particular chip with a particular set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► of execution units in a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► arrangement with particular latencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► that's how game development works a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► of the time especially as you get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► towards the high end if Apple makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► characteristics or that doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► any of these weird power vr specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► extensions that are there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► that game developers can use or could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► have used in the past that may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► problem for iOS game compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► like metal may help with this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► presumably metal provides I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► it's less of an abstraction layer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► OpenGL but it's more than like writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► against the you know the bare metal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► the GPU so there could be troubled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► waters at for iOS game performance but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► have faith that Apple knows about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► these issues and will have software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► based solutions and because their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► GPU will be so much faster than the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► ones games tuned for the power via our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► performance specifics they'll get by on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► the know in just because it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► much faster so this this development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► this sort of corporate divorce divorce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► makes me excited to see what what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► next GPU will be like and I assume it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► like the not this year's one but next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► year's like might as well find out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► soon as the iphone 8 or whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► going to call it comes out and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► checks it out and see it sees if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► a power via our base to GPU in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► i'm kind of excited about that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► don't think it's related to the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► yeah i agree completely there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► that is connected to the mac pro the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► timing is a coincidence yeah there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► way i also think you know with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► with the idea of like you know changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► it and being a problem for games i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► think it's that big of a deal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► there aren't that many people writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► high-performance low-level game engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► at that you know at that level on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► iOS or for anything really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► there's not a lot of original low-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► game engines being written at any given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► time you know most games that come at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► are using someone else's engine so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► it's a relatively small number of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► engine providers and authors that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► need to adapt to any changes like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► anyway and the fact is enough I phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► are sold that if the new iPhones from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► architecture every mobile game developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► is going to demand support for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► so the engine makers are going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► so it it's really not an issue like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► that's that's not going to be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► at all yeah it's still it's still better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► at same thing on game columns like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► consoles these days we're like game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► consoles will feel free to rev their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► console game developers just deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► it like when the PSP s4 pro comes out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► the Scorpio like this lik well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► hardware changed in a way that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► never optimized for but then again also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► the hardware is faster as this new GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► will faster as well and they figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► out because that's how you make as how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► you make the money how you sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► games thanks for our three sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► week Squarespace audible and fracture we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► will see you next week now the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► over they didn't even mean to begin cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► it was accidental oh it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► John didn't do any research Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► Casey wouldn't let him cuz it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► accidental it was accidental and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► find the show notes at ATP FM and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► you're into twitter you can follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► at cas Eyl ISS so that's Casey list ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► RTO a RM can t marco arment as I r kc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► ah so once i went back and listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► the tape last time it certainly does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► appear that i'm going to win the bet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► all likelihood because I never I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► bet on it being unmodified I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► if the 2013 Mac Pro is still for sale on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► january first that's gonna make someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► did provide a link that i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► removed from follow up that was like see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► look they didn't change the name of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► and they gave me a link to the page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► talks about the 2013 but i couldn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► anything on the page that said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► wasn't just like a page hadn't yet been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► updated like nothing about it indicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► that that page was aware that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► the reconfiguration thing but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► everything that I've seen indicates to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► me that this is just a price drop and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► model elimination and everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► them will be exactly the same including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► the name and the model number and so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► definition they could still be for sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► yeah so I won't do clear victory until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► January first but I am confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► i'm most likely to win this you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► just start scrounging for money in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► couch kch day if you find any change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► there a little jar and by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► remember I found five dollars at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► of last week's story so we're going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► some well we don't worry at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► we're going to talk about something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► skeptical it's probably not until 2018 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► actually no and then in 2018 it'll be Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► where's the mac pro where's the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► where's the macro it's not here where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► Mac Pro it's not here why isn't it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► Apple is doomed where's the mac pro it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► not here they already said it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► even say was gonna come in 2018 so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► already we're already saying it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► expectations are appropriately set will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► be like that's gonna stop you too they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► totally like this I seriously though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► this announcement that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► this thing gets rid of a lot of anxiety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► it's like it's just a matter of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► used to before say it's just a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► when but we didn't know now we know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► put a stake in the ground they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► words they made promises they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► to keep them like it's gonna happen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► gonna happen for us I know it mmm then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► we can plan what they release that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► where the good stuff is after they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► if they preview it at you know a fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► event or WTC or whatever else then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► can nitpick the preview to death that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► that's at least two episodes yep then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► can say like they said they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► motherboard what were they thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► they just mean that they're gonna create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► an a they won't even upgrade it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► everything is soldered on yeah well have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► fun there but but now they said so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► of the right things is just that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► this is going to be a long honeymoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► period for me to just imagine how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► awesomeness things going to be and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► a three-year-long just tirade about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► it doesn't meet your every expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► I'm still even considering buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► imac pro like in addition to the mat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► just has been so long so they bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► mac i should do a marco thing where i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► gonna buy the imac pro keep it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► little while sell it by the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► because I i had the mac pro for only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► about 9 or 10 months before the 5k came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► out and i didn't lose that much money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► it like I lost I think like fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► percent or something over like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► almost a year that I consider that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► pretty good yeah do you think I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► macbook adorable update is eminent cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► I'm really itching to buy one you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► the speed bump sorry I blows and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► those anymore it's really it honestly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► a very good question like where the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► that is because it sure seems like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► know that that probably should have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► out this spring pretty sure the trip was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► available but you know at me there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► be seen a like now we don't know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► we could just say it's just Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► being you know Tim Cook now we can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► maybe they're rethinking things maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► optimistic and like well maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► they're doing something else well like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► said when you talked about the mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► just because they've realized that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► you want a high-end computer you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► update it like they've clearly made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► realization that a they do want a lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► computer and be you can't have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► computer you don't update it right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► realization but anything else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► product line because they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► saying as you go down the line it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► you can have a macbook adorable that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► never update it's not a high-end product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► nobody cares about performance it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► why why waste time updating it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► year with speed bumps you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► that that's one of those things like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► many things that Apple reconsider is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► like why does a computer have to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► dr why why the batteries have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► removable laptops right all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► that other companies won't consider one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► of the one of the recent ones that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► has adopted is do you have to speed bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► computers every year just because new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► components are available and apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► answer bus no no you don't like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► sales don't seem to suffer from it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► fact maybe they do better because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► built up all this demand among the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► people who know that our computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► old and crappy that we have these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► spikes when we release new things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► maybe you don't have to do that now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► the high end they've changed their mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► but the whole rest of the line I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► need to be convinced that they realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► that speed bumps are a thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► should go back to doing and honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► don't know if they should quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► should for the business we all want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► tech nerds get upset that like speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► bumps don't happen but maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► right for non high-end products that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► customers for those products don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► and we'll just keep buying the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► adorable and updated every two years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► every three years or whatever and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► will be fine and and honestly I can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► of get on the same page with them if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► they have the numbers to back that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► because the role of those products is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► not to be the very fastest thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► get and when you do comparisons against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► competitive products it's like what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► got mac OS you can't design apples to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► apples comparison haha because who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► if you can buy a dell laptop for way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► cheaper that has updated components no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► Mac OS so that could be what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► saying now I hope they go back to speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► bumps because I think it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► healthier thing to do overall and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► lack of speed bumps makes technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► people angry at Apple which spills over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► into our attitudes about everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► that they do but who knows but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► they made the right decision in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► pro again I'm still basking in that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► honeymoon period you know if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► the if you look at the macrumors buyer's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► guide macbook don't buy macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► don't buy macbook pro yeah imac don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► buy mac mini don't buy mac pro by now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► can't i can't believe they did that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► it's like a bug in their systems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► yeah i know they quote unquote updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► it by changing prices but like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► to turn that back to don't buy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► don't don't buy that yeah there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► that is earned there is no way that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► bug that is earned even less than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► new badge was when we started this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► is it still that way because I saw those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► same screen shots when people screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► haha look at this isn't as funny their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► buggy software put it as a bi but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► still there maybe I mean someone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► macrumors actually think so it's I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► looked a minute ago they never change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► still there it right there right on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► by now it says buy now price drop so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► at least clarifies that it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► update but but don't but don't buy now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► no one should buy those unless you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► less you have to less you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► to because like whatever reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► Casey's co-worker means about right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► regular people don't buy those it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► not improve no and the price drop if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► they had dropped the price is fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► bucks yeah definitely buy right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► expensive you should not buy it yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7058">TS</a>]
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01:57:42 ◼ ► spending seven thousand dollars you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSlx2ec/7062">TS</a>]
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