The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► top of the morning to you oh yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/0">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► not at all prepared for that the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► part about that is that that's the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► first time you've ever greeted anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► on a skype call I think that's accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► I really honestly I'm not sure that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► a greeting I guess like to go you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► right it is a greeting of a kind but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► meant that way so your beard are you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26 ◼   ► your beard gone or what no this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/26">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► fear I was like he's gonna get back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► he's still gonna have it you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► let it happen to you and it's a ficus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► yes gonna determine whether oh no this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► is a problem it's a big problem i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/39">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► started this morning in ireland the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► conclusion of a wonderful trip to the OL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► conference so I woke up this morning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► Dublin is now in the time zone that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/51">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► was supposed to be used to two in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► morning and and so we'll see how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/58">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► goes I never really shifted a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► percent to the new time zone so what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► really happened is now just time has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► lost all meaning and I'm just always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► tired but yet can't sleep so this should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► be interesting delightful day I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► overjoyed that you are this tired with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► respect because this means i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► prayer of going to bed somewhere near my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► normal bedtime because i figured about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► an hour you're gonna be like a go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► then and then at this point it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► great now his piece he's punch-drunk now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► he's gonna be all loopy he's gonna walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► even longer wait we're having a holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► party I got to go I'll be right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► he's high on life I'm gonna go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► the same thing the Marcos going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► only realize I'm not going to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► and do a podcast gonna come back and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► like to work yeah that's not fun I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► technically this is work for all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► me included except some of us have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► work alright let's let's start the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/115">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► as usual with some follow-up copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► 2011 John siracusa a PFS iOS app updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/121">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► have hit the App Store tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► this John everyone's telling us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► them they're say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► hey guess what I downloaded the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► updated version of my few of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► app and the top thing in the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► notes was fixed ApS filename issues we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► have many many reports of many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► sending as many applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► surprisingly feature a PFS in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/143">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► release notes so the update is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/147">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► even though the update was seamless for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► users for developers not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► actually I think I might have hit one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► these problems so in the recent version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► of overcast that's in the store as of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► late last week I had to remove support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/163">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► for m4a chapters and I forget whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► talked about on the show and I was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/170">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► talking about here now you just tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► about it that's right anyway so so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► AAC /em for a slash Moff john chapters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► had to remove support for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► temporarily at least until i can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► my own parser because the apple parser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► kept crashing on some of the fun a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► of the files that were that we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► and iOS you know there's no way as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► as I know there's no way for me to parse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► metadata like in a separate process or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► anything so that if it crashes my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► app doesn't come down and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► the crashes seemed to start around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► time to 10.3 beta started so it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► not surprise me if this was file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/205">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► related and the reason I had to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► this it was kind of a crazy hack I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► try to tell quickly basically when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► overcast downloads its files it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► downloads them with no extension it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► saves it as like you know a big ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► number with no file extension you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► mp3 or anything the metadata parser from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► Apple and the API can only operate on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► file name or URL cannot operate a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► account on a data blob so it knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► the file name and if that file name does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► not end in dot AAC or thought I m4a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/233">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► doesn't work right but only for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► files and if it's an mp3 needs to end in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► that to work right and so they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/242">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► solution i came up with was when oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► also I don't always have the whole file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► sometimes I'm streaming the file and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► I have to just write out like the bid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► have to a temp file and then read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► metadata from it and then read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► delete the temp file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► then to get around the extension issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► when i'm reading the metadata from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► m4a file i create a symlink to it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► dot m4a extension read the file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► read the data off of that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► delete the symlink and it was at those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► parts that i was getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► crashes all of a sudden in 10 3 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► something's up with the way my app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► or the metadata parsing library we in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► iOS deals with me creating these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► symlinks or writing these little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► temp files to don't actually include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► whole file and it was causing the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► thing to crash sometimes so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► temporarily remove that support and left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► in only my own ID 3.mp3 parser which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► supports mp3 chapters which is what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► show uses because that I could do all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► memory with my own safe routines but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► some point I have to figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► re-implement support for AAC chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► and for the lack of them I apologize to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► the entire nation of Germany and I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► hopefully hoping to get that done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► quickly but right now that's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► big problem with that and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► actually might be related to some bug's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► somewhere whether it's minor apples I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► not sure regarding the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► because it did not happen before 10 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► why don't you try switching from some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► links to our links and see if that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► magically fixes it well I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► that that's I'm not sure I want to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► still be dealing with links i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► the better long-term wealth the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/343">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► term fix is to write my own parser but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► the the problem is when i get in too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► into this again the the AAC chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/351">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► format is completely undocumented and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► proprietary to Apple there you can I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► tried to figure it out on numerous times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► in numerous occasions in the past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► I've gotten most of it but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/364">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► really tricky and really undocumented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► and it like the end of the bits of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► that you need are all over the file they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► aren't even all up front like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► interspersed throughout the entire file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► because there it's it's structured in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► such a way that like as it's playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► track like if it's playing a stream of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► track like if if say the chapter changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► and the chapter includes a URL at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► image then the URL and image are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► splice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► into the stream at that point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► audio data so it might not like what so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► you can't so exactly this is why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► format sucks so you can't even and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► that same like splicing format also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► applies to the titles of the chapters so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► you cannot build a table of contents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► reliably from an AAC chapter file unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► you have the whole file because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► to skip through the whole thing to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► all the titles out that's bananas yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► know it's a huge pain in the mp3 chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/420">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► 4 chapter format it's based on id3 tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► which are very very crude but very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► simple to deal with and they have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► of limitations it's very similar to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► our SS vs atom feed formats like back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the day like RSS is really simple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► hence the name but you know it had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► had some limitations and Adam was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► designed to like be everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► everybody and as a result it's overly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► complicated and a huge pain in the butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► and that's that's kind of mp3 versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► mob format which is what AC and I'm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► a that's that's all just renaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► reading versions of the mouth format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► basically asterisk but basically once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► again humans he's trying to say move he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► means a file that ends in da mov just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► just so you're not like wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► saying because I know that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► that's a color isn't that my mom has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► ross ram yeah wow yeah so anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► a that is my possible a PFS bug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► overcast and also why anybody listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► why your chapters in mob format podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► might have stopped working in the recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► update yeah that doesn't sound like an a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► PFS thing but who knows it is a new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► system and if it is related to like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► not it's not the kind that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► talking about in the release notes cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► they're all talking about encoding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► filename encoding issues but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► assuming when you make these temp files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► you're making able to ASCII file name so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► it's totally not an issue here yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► like like the file name is like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► ID number of the of the file dot m4a now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► and so the other possible quick solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► if I want to do just a quick solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► just save all the files as dot m4a even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► when they're not and like and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► know have a migration that runs on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► first launch of the new version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► just renamed them all and just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► do any kind of hard linking or simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► can just permanently leave them as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► names but then that will break the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► file decode or sometimes under certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► conditions so it's like it and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► m4a / AC / mob / move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► are all like that format is last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/529">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► checked it was like less than five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► percent of all items in the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► directory I'm so so it's like I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► think you mean the Apple podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► directory oh god you're right it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► like two hours all right so yeah in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► in the Apple podcast directory the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► majority well over ninety percent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► format is mp3 so to do a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► work to accommodate AAC files in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► special way especially chapter eyes ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► it's a we're talking a very small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► of podcast I'm guessing off the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► my head the total number of podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► that are both chapter eyes and m4a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► format and that ever listened to by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► anybody and overcast is probably less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► than a hundred maybe even less than 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► and so it's like it's it's a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► whether I actually should do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► about this or not president like ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► percent of the podcast in Germany seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► and the Germans do use chapters heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► and a few of them do use AAC chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► but a lot of the news mp3 chapters or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► other formats that I don't even support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► like the pod love simple chapters format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► which there's a wonderful idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56 ◼   ► there's just I don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► market push to support it really yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/597">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► idea behind that by the way pile have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► simple chapters which is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► basically is to put the chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► information in the feed rather than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► individual files and that's a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► but there's just there's almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► support for it on on either side on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► producer side on the CMS side or on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► you know podcast app player side so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► that's I don't know what I'm going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► about that if anything but uh chapters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► don't know I waded into this chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► mess and now making a chapter tool now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► man this chapter app and now I'm stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► with parsing chapters forever chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► all the way down it is I do love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► Germans though they are great bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► it back around talking more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► directly about a PFS Kyle South grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► otherwise known as Kyle's the gray had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► tweeted at us a very interesting pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► screenshots so he writes here's my iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/648">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► disks before and after upgrading to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► dot 3 so it shows in the before that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/655">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► a capacity or it's eight of his discs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► eighty-six percent full ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► one-percent fall in twenty percent full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► after upgrade the same discs go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► eighty six to forty percent from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► then from twenty to eight percent full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► which means somewhere out of nowhere he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► now has more free space thanks to a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► you're looking at the wrong column in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► these screenshots that's a mime I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► yes it's a lot of numbers will put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► link and the chances tweet and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► look at the screenshot so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► percentages are different right but okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► this is this the output of like DF or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► whatever and the key thing to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/693">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► like so there are some partitions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► are not interesting to us like dev for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► the dev of s and the one at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► which is like a baseband data for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► wireless or whatever but there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► can see the the OS and user partitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► and the key column is size before iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/709">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► the size of the first one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► mounted at / is 4.3 gigs and that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► the OS partition I'm assuming and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► size of like the big one where all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► stuff is is 59 gigs so 59 plus four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► point three gigs it's like this is a 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► gig phone right and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► ancillary stuff left over for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► little partitions right after upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the size of both the iOS and the your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/732">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► stuff partition both of them say 64 gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► so the OS president it's 64 gigs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/738">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the user partition it's 64 gigs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► exactly what we were talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► and this didn't occur to me before when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► I was talking about the sizing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► couldn't quite figure out how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► numbers added up but this makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► sense if you have a 64 gig phone it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► what we were saying an example a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► with like if you had a one gig disk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► you put 21 gig partitions they have a 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► gig disk essentially in this phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► they put to 64 gig partitions on it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► of them for the OS and one of them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► all the rest of your stuff which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► reasonable simple occasion because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► they don't have to like think about oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► geez how big should the OS partition be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► like how big is our OS how much how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► you know should be yeah you know uses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the pre iOS 10.3 state if the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the OS partition was 4.3 gigs but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► 3.6 was used so they give themselves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► little wiggle room like if the next I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► West update is little bigger and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► are they could resize the partitions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► with a PFS they don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► about exactly how to size / dishes both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► of them are 64 gigs both of them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► whole phone and that messes up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/793">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► capacity and how much is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► measurements depending on how you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► going to are you going to report this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► information so that could explain these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/804">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► discrepancies that we were seeing before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► in particular if you have 55 gigs used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► and you think the thing is 60 64 gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► then you think you have more left than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► if it was a different size or occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► just BDF totally confused by a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► either way free space and a PFS is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► indeed moving on and video job postings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► suggest an nvidia chip return to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► macs john i presume this is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► interesting to you also tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► this week talk last show about nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► releasing the mac drivers for their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► card for the whole line of top-end cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► essentially which is a weird thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► because apples even sell a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► you can stick an nvidia card in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/843">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► older ones that people might still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► hanging around and I that something was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► tickling I might about this and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► people sent in this link from September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► 2016 a job posting Nvidia did a job post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/855">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► and they were looking for someone to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► a software engineer at Nvidia and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► role would require this is that quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► from their job listing working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► partnership with apple and writing code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► that will define and shape the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► graphics related software on max so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► were looking for this in September and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► now they've delivered a thing so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/874">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► knows when the Mac Pro decision was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► who knows when this decision was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► but really Nvidia made a decision that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► previously we weren't too much mac stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► but guess what now we're gonna and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► it seems really weird that Nvidia would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► make that decision on its own because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► they have no market to sell into except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► for people who really old Macs so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/894">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► especially saying working in partnership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► with Apple certainly seems like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02 ◼   ► was talking to Nvidia sometime it on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/902">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► before September 23rd 2016 saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► know come back we we miss you let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► let's let's get some make up whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► our problem was we want to get some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► that sweet Pascal hardware and Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► someday and this could have been well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► before they even decided he making a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► pro so who knows maybe the imac pro of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► invidious stuff and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► I'm getting my hopes up a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► anyway the mystery deepens but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► wasn't an overnight thing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► it's gotta have it's got to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► form of apples input because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► just seem curious an invidi would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► this on its own all right friend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► show Kieran Healy rights in regarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► Marco at 43 minutes and 15 seconds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the last episode we'll put an overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► link in the show notes quote obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► something has changed with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► thinking on release schedule since 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► around then everything slowed down this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► is paraphrased around then everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► slowed down but now something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► changed to make apple flip around so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► Kieran pontificates I wonder if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► project Titan which is ostensibly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► car project perhaps that swallowed up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► lot of resources last I heard maybe nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► months ago it sounded like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► getting at least substantially scaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► back it was surprising not to hear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► the show but also elsewhere the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► coverage i read any discussion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► possibility that the apple car project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► was the black hole that absorbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► hardware design talent and effort for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► two to three years with no results as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► yet and that had significant opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► cost for every piece of hardware the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► company makes apart from the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► thoughts on that any kind of massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► project like this like apple trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► make a car and then a self-driving car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► that's going to draw talent from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► company no question however i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► large part of the talent that was or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► working on that was probably from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► external sources it's probably like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► know from external hires from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► acquisitions places like that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► think the team that was working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► mac pro or would have updated the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► mini otherwise or was trying to ship new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► laptops two years earlier you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► don't think those people went to go work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► on the on the car project and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► those things didn't happen you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► probably more complicated than that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► i bet project Titan has not actually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► a layer or anything or necessarily been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► scaled back I think it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► rethought based on what we've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► heard and what actually makes more sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► but anyway I'm guessing that these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► at least partially separate that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► the the the product slow down that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► have seen was not probably a direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► project Titan suck in town out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► company I think it's way more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► that it was a combination of operational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► screw-ups somewhere along the way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► also a just and also decisions up top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► that were basically along the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► we don't think these are worth doing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► product Titan being scaled back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► regardless of the current size of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► because of the change in direction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► was rumored I think a lot of people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► laid off like we don't need people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► know how to build a car if we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► building a car anymore but all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► sudden we do need people who know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► write software that other people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► audio industry are going to consume or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► whatever but yeah the main reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► present show notes ask question and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► know it people have this question a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21 ◼   ► I think we've talked about a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► in the past but you're always looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► for something to blame for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► product that you want to be updated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► work done or become prominent not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► getting the attention it deserves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► it's easy to blame it on the mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► you know potentially very large secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► operation going on to make a car but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► on the same page with Marco I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► projects like this do take talent away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► and take attention away attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► executives and the attention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► employees but in general if any project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► was going to be it was going to contain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1135">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► a large proportion of new employees who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► are new to apple or who would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► working on the Mac at all it's a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► project because yeah there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► smart people who you're like we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► something people visit your smart people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► and they're just good software people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► we'll definitely take them right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► it's not I think it's not the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► as for example when iOS stole a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► resources from the Mac because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► the same core OS under the covers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► and making a GUI operating system even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► though one is touching one is Mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► they're so closely related they share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► code they share concepts of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► where's the car is far enough away that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► I feel like the worst thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► probably blame it for is distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► executives perhaps but I think it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► separate a separate issue then why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► max taken a long time to update all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► sudden you know why why are these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► products being emphasized to emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► if you want to blame anything you blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► like the watch or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► another project that is closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► Mac than the car is to say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► because there was you know the watch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► behind schedule a little bit according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► to the rumors of what Apple wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► released and this little fire drill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► about software and all sorts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► stuff so I don't blame the car or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► whatever it is now at all we respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► this week by mail route my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► email spam filtering service for a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► 30-day trial go to mail route net / ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► you know who should handle your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► security and delivery people who do only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► that and that's mail route the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► companies have bowed out of the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► protection business because it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► work there was postini McAfee MX logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► mail routes team is focused entirely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► email security since 1997 I was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► middle school in I don't know high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► school still that was a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► mail route protects your email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► hardware against spam viruses and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1244">TS</a>]

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00:22:25 ◼   ► Greg Pearce had noticed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► interesting about the clips app which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► was able to talk about briefly last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► episode before we dope in 23 hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► mac pro talk he noted that clips did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► ask permission to use his camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► microphone and he said bad form Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1358">TS</a>]

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00:22:48 ◼   ► entitlements to access camera mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► contacts etc without asking and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► a screenshot of what I believe to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► oats the entitlements of the clips app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1374">TS</a>]

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00:23:08 ◼   ► special case that we aren't allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► do that that blesses clips and gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1390">TS</a>]

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00:23:17 ◼   ► actively having done so which I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► obviously it's apples right to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1400">TS</a>]

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00:23:23 ◼   ► they would just play by the same rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► with everyone else so this is not a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► thing with clips tons of apple apps do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► this but it's just a it's worth on again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► doing his people didn't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1411">TS</a>]

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00:23:34 ◼   ► do whatever the hell they want right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1414">TS</a>]

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00:23:39 ◼   ► out loud like hex code is in slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► violation of a couple of Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► rules that employ their applications but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► for this specific case of it for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► apps like this in particular I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► like it's it's an interesting object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► lesson for for the policies they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► that clearly someone at Apple who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► making Clips thought that not having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► ask for permission to access the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► in the microphone and you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► contacts and and your photos and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► like that is a better user experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► for the app like forget about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► they have the ability to get rid of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► put these secret entitlements in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► are not like it's a design question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► this app better when it asked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► regression or is this a better when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► doesn't ask for mission and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► like this is an interface decision this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► is a nicer experience for users if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► don't ask for permission right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► because only Apple gets to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1473">TS</a>]

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00:25:00 ◼   ► majority of applications downloaded from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1500">TS</a>]

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00:25:58 ◼   ► highlighted this this user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► issue more so than the petiole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1560">TS</a>]

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00:26:04 ◼   ► finally a t-shirt update so if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1564">TS</a>]

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00:27:01 ◼   ► we last spoke yeah but first I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► remind myself to listen to your advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► because for the past like week I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► like you know what I need auditors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► sing here actually I too have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► ordered my shirts don't be like us okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► don't be like that we know when we stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► selling these shirts even we can't order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► them again yeah that's really true yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► we'll be out of luck so here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► happened since the last time i talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► about how we might be changing things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► instead of taking all of your orders for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► 20-something days and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► after the sale ends sending this huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► giant ship and assurance out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► everybody instead we might switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► sort of a continuous fulfillment type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► thing and that is what we've done it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► like in every three days type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► and that manifests on the tee spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► site it's saying this sale ends in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► days this sale ends in one days and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► people keep sending his tweets panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► don't know it says it ends in one day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► in two days but you said it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► end on the twenty-sixth very often these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► people have already ordered their shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► that is trying to look out for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► people to say like or look out for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► and say you might not know it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► have your stuff misconfigured well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► happens is when it ends it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► immediately relaunches for another three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► day window and this is going to repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► into the 26 fish so don't fret if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► says you have two day remaining or one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► day remain look at the calendar if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► the 26th or before you can still order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► if it's after the 26th take seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► any things you see on this hi this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► just the way it works on the side I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► we could have said continuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► fulfillment but with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► definitive end date but we can't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► this is not how the site works so never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► fear it's a rolling cycle that repeats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► every three days ish and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► I wanted to mention because T spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► itself mentioned it to us one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► shirts that we sell in our bazillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► different color varieties here which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► the way we didn't point this out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► when we serve to this accidentally which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► is appropriate usually we have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► of silly in joke apple-related in joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► for our shirts for the past couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► years this year the silly unintentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► in joke was that our shirt names and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► million varieties are like the million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► different varieties of apple product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► names it's like macbook two USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► 2013 you know late 2013 or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► that's what our shirts are like and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► have a million net varieties anyway one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► of them is what we call the jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► shirt which isn't you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► allusion to the new phone color for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► iphone 7 and the jet black shirt is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► black t-shirt and the printing on it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► also in black and that's the joke it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► completely black if this is not clear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► you that it is black printing on a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► t-shirt it will be basically invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► like if you're buying this shirt and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► get it and you're like hey I can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► anything on this shirt because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► black ink Clinton on black that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► joke it's a jet black it's you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► much more black took the shirt be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► the answer is none none more black which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► is a different joke or reference if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► joke anyway so teespring was encouraging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► us very strongly to not sell a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► with black printing on black because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► customers get it and they're angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► because they can't see anything on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and I had faith in our customers and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► I hope they get the joke that it's a jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► black shirt and it does have black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► printing and you can see it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► picture like it's not a secret that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► black printing on black but I needless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► to say if you see that shirt and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► wondering is this black printing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► black shirt and will this be hard to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► yes it's black burning on a black shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► and it will be super duper hard to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► and that's the joke enjoy alright so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► so if you're listening to this do not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► like Casey John and Mark oh don't be us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► be better than us which is not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► hard thing to do go to 80 PF m / shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► and buy you a shirt if you are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► inclined that definitely helps us on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► show and we thank you to anyone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► even considered doing so but please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► blame only the mirror if you miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► window because this one's on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► although you should be like us and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► in it when you actually do order shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► you should order like five of them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► all of us are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► that's true like anyone's before my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► for the first year my daughter said she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► she might want one she likes the rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► one like everybody everybody else John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07 ◼   ► didn't you not even by yourself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► addition shirt three years ago that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► me I totally did I've got an addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► I'm I'm part of the elite are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► kidding I was way too cheap to buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► addition Casey that invited say let's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► thing about who's actually cheap here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► did buy an addition yeah that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► just don't be like us kids go they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► go into the t-shirt museum i'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► actually worn it you know i think i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► worn mine like twice like I'm afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► wear it too much that I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► wear it out because it's gold it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► it's a valuable t-shirt almost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► valuable to cotton for a cheap your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► t-shirt shipped to Europe right sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► burn the real valuable t-shirt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► people haven't been keeping about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► t-shirts is the very first tee shirt we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► ever printed but there was a printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► error on it and so everybody who got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► that t-shirt got like the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► the upside-down airplane on the stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► thing right where is it misprinted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► incorrectly made shirt and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► those same people got a second shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► correctly printed for free yeah so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► people got two sheets are the shirts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► the price of one and they also got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► special collector's item never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► reproduced printing error shirt so kudos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► to those people put those into the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► museum oh goodness all right any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► follow-up John the keeper of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► follow-up anything else you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► add no we're at the end you see it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► can see it you know John isn't only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► keeper of the follow-up mm-hmm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► heavily credited mmm all right Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► apparently patented a USBC magsafe style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► adapter which is super duper exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► for those of us like myself who even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► though i don't have a US pc laptop i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► tell you i will miss having magsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► because it saved my bacon a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► times so do we have any thoughts on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► why are you excited by it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► first question because i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► have had my laptop saved and or legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► saved many many many times by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► magsafe adapter that's been on my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► or den on my laptop's so this looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► it would bring it back which would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► great you need a you know magsafe four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► cups of water but within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► that yeah that is true yeah so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► reason I think you should not be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► about it is because as we've said my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► time apple patents everything patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► have no real bearing on anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► Apple were produced especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► see the pattern before the product gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► a good chance that there's not a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► related to that but the reason I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► in here is not because I think apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► will make such thing although belkin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► a few other companies i think actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► do make this exact thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► seeing here which is like a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► that plugs into USB see it has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► mag safety kind of magnet snap off e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► thing on the end yeah Griffin is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► you think of anything it's unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► it's not very well regarded yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► it's the same idea though it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► the implementation may not be good visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► is actually tricky to get this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► right the reason I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► interesting is because that back when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► knew they were dropping magsafe oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► none of us actually seen the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► yet and we hadn't really used the USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► we're like well you know magsafe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► great and everybody loves it but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► bigger and maybe maybe USBC will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► connectors will this yank out just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► easily as magsafe does because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► whole new connector it's not like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► USB a connector you know who sees who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► knows what it'll be like but now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► all have experience with us bc it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► pretty safe to say it does not come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► as easily as matic safe in any way shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► or form and that the hazard of tripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► over your cord that's connected through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► USB see to your laptop is back it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► to be mostly gone with magsafe depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► on the angle that you trip over it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► but now the danger is back and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► USBC kind of like air pods is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► those little things that seems like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► whatever you know wireless earphones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► you know magnet instead of plugging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► and that seems nice but i think magsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► is was mostly universally beloved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► only complaints i ever heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► magsafe were from couch chargers people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► who use their you know think connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► on the couch or like with a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► comforter or blanket and they would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► it was a little bit too loose in it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► they would knock it out unintentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► but that's the only bad thing i've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► heard of a magsafe and for a connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and a technology that looks if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► you just you know look at it it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► like weird and delicate in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► the lightning does and it like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► looking it's like so it's a magnet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► these you know this little tiny set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► contacts inside there and all the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► to this laptop is going through these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► tiny little pinprick point things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► that just seems so much less robust and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► what if stuff gets in there and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► and so forth but I've had Meg site from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► many many devices and still have it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► many of them and I still think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► great idea well executed again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► modulo the the the looseness of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► magsafe 2 and and other issues like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► and I think it's pretty beloved I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► people like a couple products because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► they have magsafe it was another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► those Apple things like that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► better than just a regular laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► when it went away and when we discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► that there is no real replacement for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► is just like well that advantage is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► gone you know it was it was kind of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► kind of made their laptops worse in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► way and in some tiny way it made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► laptops worse and Apple having a patent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► like this makes me think that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► least somewhere inside the company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► said can we go all USBC but also retain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► the advantages of magsafe somehow by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► know but by the answer to everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► that is the answer in the world of us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► which is let's make an adapter and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► and so they did and patented it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► know decided not to ship it for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► reason because maybe it's still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► clunky or whatever anyway all this is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► say that I wish instead of doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► adapter and going USBC everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► they're not shipping this adapter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► leaving the third parties I wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► had come up with magsafe three magsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► is too big and clunky and your devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► are getting thinner and thinner can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► come up with some other solution that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► also uses magnets that has all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► advantages in it we haven't seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► patent for that but clearly nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► they've shipped reflects that anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► saying as I miss magsafe and I wish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► would come back and it seems like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► least some contingent inside apple also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► misses magsafe because they tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► something to bring it back if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► going to do magsafe on us bc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► solution is not to have this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► little stick out like half inch long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► adapter that you need to also have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► you or stick on your cables and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► that breakaway know that that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► anything that involves like a rigid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► adapter against a USB port i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► not a good idea long-term because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► so easily just like you know breaks off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► in the port or something else like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► those USB hubs that were designed first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► for the macbook one that like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► hacks right next to it like flush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► against the case and have this big long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► hub down the side like that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► asking for to like to have your knee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► push against that or something and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► the end of the cable snap off into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► into the socket like anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► I think is a bad idea and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► the relative a mediocre reception of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► Griffin thing that looks just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► is I think reinforcing of that to me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► you're going to have this problem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► have now which is you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► have a dedicated magnetic charging port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► anymore you're just gonna charge through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► any USBC port then you can't make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► all magnetic because you know that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► how you SBC works but you can do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► innovation that Microsoft figured out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► 2001 I think which is whenever the xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► one came out i don't mean the xbox o ne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► I mean the Xbox number one the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► Xbox and that was you put the magnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► splitter thing a few inches away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► the console in the cable you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► similar location that many cables would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► have one of those you know drum like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► those drum shape like magnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► interference reducer things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► like you know a few inches from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► connector head you have a little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► breakaway thing that if you pull it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► wrong way it opens up it's like magsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► you know six inches into a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► basically that worked great on the xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► and I'm sure you know it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► like the most like visually pristine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► thing but neither are these neither is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► like this road full of crazy adapters we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► have now the adapters are all ugly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► stupid and clunky right so if you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► it away from the port by a few inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► onto the cable you have all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► safeties of Mac safe but you get it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► from the laptop body it then works fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► in any USBC port and it doesn't require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► the use of these little fragile adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► back when we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► originally this that's actually wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► the most popular know that did you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► did bring it up back then too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► you have this absurd love for that huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► console that was a great console the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► most common the most common thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► people brought up was the opposite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► having having the magnetic thing at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► other end like at the other far end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/2384">TS</a>]

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00:53:01 ◼   ► back when we use sales were slumping we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► were all doubting the future of Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► John said something along the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► quote as long as there's still a viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► market for dedicated game consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► nintendo can survive these days they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► seem to be doing more than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► surviving breath of the wild oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► must not have been that long ago then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► breath of the wild is a fantastic game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► that turned me back into a believer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► taking into account Super Mario run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► switch in breadth of the wild what grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► would John assign the company is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► bullish about Nintendo's future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► means you're happy about it right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► always get bearish or bullish backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► yeah anyway how does he feel about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► upcoming paid online service which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► didn't even know about well as the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► finishes the people want to know and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► I am one of the people so John how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► you feel about Nintendo I had to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► them a great i would still give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like a b-minus or so and here's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► first of all the switch is still I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► it's doing doing well by all accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► but it's still too early to call because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► they're still in the afterglow of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3236">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► launch which launched with one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► best games that Nintendo has ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► everyone loves breath of the wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► universally good reviews I love it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► great um but doesn't have legs house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► how's it going to switch going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► selling like three or four years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► now is it going to have the longevity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► that you would expect of a console in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► the past let alone the longevity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► today's consoles which seemed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► second lives when you get like the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► pro and Scorpio and all that stuff where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► it's technically the same console but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► it's a bumped up version like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► extending the life like I give these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► consoles more time whereas the wii u did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► not have a long life it was not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► successful the thing about the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► and breadth of the wild that that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► me downgrade their grade perhaps by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► lot in terms of you know making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► dedicated game consoles is brought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► wild was the game that was originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► announced for the wii u and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► developed with wii u specific features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► so like there would be stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► gamepad and also stuff on the TV screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► and motion control for the aiming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► also show us stuff like that and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► of the short life of the wii u and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► because of the rapid rapid necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► development of its replacement the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► switch nintendo had to change things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► around and take out the wii u they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► didn't have to do this was what i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► take out the wii u specific features for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► the wii u version because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► want the wii u version to seem like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► the better version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► they want you know you want to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► version to be the better version and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► switch doesn't have a separate gamepad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30 ◼   ► in TV although if they had designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► differently could have because you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► got all the hardware there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► doesn't it's got if you put it in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► little cradle you can see on TV and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► you hold it on your hand that's where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► is you don't have a to screen experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► with switch for this game and so breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► of the wild as fantastic as it is could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► have been a ps4 game and the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► game it would have better graphics and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► better frame rate it could have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► ps4 game and that has not been true for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► the most part of Nintendo's breakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► hits in the modern era then intend to 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► and mario 64 and the analog stick like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► that is all of a piece you cannot put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► out Mario 64 on the SNES or Sega Genesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► or you know anything like that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► the whole game is designed around not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► just 3d hardware but also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► controllers and other act like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► hardware the software went together to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► provide the innovative experience Wii is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► an obvious much more modern example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► wii doesn't exist about the hardware its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► hardware and software together the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► Gamecube I would say is Apple's most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► technologically successful traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:42 ◼   ► console and that it was just playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► good competitive powerful console with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► good controller at a good price well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► designed for profitability just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► straight down the middle like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► what Microsoft has always done with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► consoles right in recent years starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► with the wii though Nintendo has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► making less powerful consoles and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► to concentrate and innovate in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► areas and the switch is certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► innovative with its portable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► non-portable you know that advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► but that advancement does not dictate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► far for the most part a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► gameplay experience especially since you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► I don't even know if you're allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► do this but especially since the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► that have been released so far don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► you can only play this important mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► because it requires a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► they're also playable on the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► which means you can't make a game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► requires a touchscreen that is also able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► to be played on the TV and then it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► longer a switch is just a portable game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► right maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► nintendo will allow people to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► eventually but as far as I'm aware for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► now there now I don't feel good always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► just say that I haven't seen any synergy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► between software and the hardware which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► means Nintendo's the advantage I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► talking about Nintendo like as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► they there's a market for a decade game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► consoles content Nintendo can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► successful and survive because then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► can do that thing that Nintendo has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► always done which is make an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► product that requires a synergy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► hardware and software somewhat like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► Apple has you know they had a reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► for doing over the many years but breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:12 ◼   ► Laval could have been a ps4 game I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► probably would've been better on ps4 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► I would have been happier if breath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► the wild ran on hardware that was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► powerful now that's just me some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► may want a really good portable system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► in which case they don't want breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► awhile and ps4 they want on switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► because they love playing it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► portable thing on the go and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► upstairs in the bed or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► that makes it a successful handheld but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► again doesn't say anything specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► about it other than like you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► couldn't have been a cut sorry Sony I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► can't remember the name of your stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► most recent handheld that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► successful chat room what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► the aveda it's all right the NSX no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► the vita play playstation vita and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► they have what was the one after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► vida god I can't even keep track this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► lag is killing me I think the Vita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► smells reason anyway people who love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► hand help they're you know they're thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► handhelds before now I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► switch thing being able to take off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► little controls and use them separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► so there is some innovation there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► doesn't have the same synergy with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► the games as other stuff is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► doesn't mean it's not going to this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► very early days saying that you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► games are going to come out all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► I'll see how they go and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► the switch is successful people like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► the software is good it can still be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► successful product but my personal grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► for it is that they are not they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► competitive with the two other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► consoles the new tenant was always an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► also-ran because they make less powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► hardware and within the realm of less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► powerful hardware their track record of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► being able to make innovations that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► profound effects on gameplay and vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► versa has been hit-or-miss over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► years and the switch is kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► base hit in that people like it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► does what it's supposed to do well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► but it seems like it is just a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► you to play the same old console games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► that you could always play portably and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► TV which is it's an innovation is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01 ◼   ► what people like about it like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► have to choose between some cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► portable game versus a full fledge TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► one but that innovation is succeeds by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► being somewhere in the middle it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► as good on the TV is the dedicated TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► consoles but it's better portably than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► some of the weaker powered portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► consoles also still may my Nintendo like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► the 3ds so it you know it may be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► right product at the right time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► certainly I think we can all say that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► has a brighter future as far as anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► can tell them that we you did and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► wii u was arguing much more arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► much more innovative it just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► the game sort of never materialized but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33 ◼   ► i think this launch and the fact they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► had to make the switch in the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36 ◼   ► they have the cut out the features from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► the wii u version so it didn't appear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► be the better version of the game than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► the switch version are all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► disappointing markers of this difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► period in tendo's history but I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► they're I'm glad they're recovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► after the wii u and i'm glad the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► does appear to be more successful I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► them all the success in the world I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► wish they would the product that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► them to make is not the switch but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► the switch if the switch is what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► have to make for me to get breath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► wild to make them successful again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► know I can live with it but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► I'm giving them like a bb- so far you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► know it's funny you say that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► when the switch first came out well when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► we talked about the Sun when the promo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► video or teaser video whatever was came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► out I was like wow that looks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► actually really cool and then when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► first came out I thought you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► still looks really cool and then I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► played with with my sister in laws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► with some friends of ours a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► times very briefly wow it's pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► and for the last month or however long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► it's been out I've been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► convince myself that I don't play games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► anymore which is accurate that the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► time I bought a console I played it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► a couple of months and never touched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► again which is accurate and thus there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► is no reason to spend a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► money on a switch which I will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► use for a month and then never use again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► which I presume to be accurate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► being said just earlier tonight I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► realized the super useful website I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► stock now which I knew is tracking Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► inventory for things like air pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► whatnot they actually track inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► for the switch and I am strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► considering making a trip to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► neighboring town to pick up a switch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► myself tomorrow and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► well part because I know I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14 ◼   ► have a couple long plane rides my future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► and that seems like it'd be a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► great way to spend some time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► plane and so here it is I am the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► antithesis of a typical console buyer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► which is to say i don't buy consoles I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► don't tend to play video games and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► feel like this console was made for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► it may be like it's a successful vida oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► it's a lot of people that's how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► viewing it like it is the best portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► system ever had because the games on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► are so amazing compared to I mean get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► credit there it's being pulled up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► average by having breath of the wild on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► it but you know it's it's like imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► if there was a portable system we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► the best first party titles from one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► the best first party developers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► world that's the switch but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► interested in a portable so that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► really help me much but it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02 ◼   ► the product is potentially more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► appealing than the wii u which had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► sit in this weird metal ground but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► I and I'm surprised that you are into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► playing in an affordable in the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► you have pretty big hands as well and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► find the size of it is not not conducive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:16 ◼   ► to my hands obviously i have our eyes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► issues on top of everything else but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► just feels a little bit awkward and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23 ◼   ► been playing with the the Nintendo pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► controller and it's no gamecube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► controller but it's okay for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► controller that doesn't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► octagonal surround around the analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► sticks and thinks all the buttons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► equally important it's okay like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► not it's not great but I like it I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► it better than the Wii U pro controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► which maybe isn't saying much but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► something great episode of hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► critical or greatest episode of hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► critical it was an episode that exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► oh wow worst you are the worst which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► episode was that you know offhand yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► know I don't know pinching the harmonica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► it's classic but you don't know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► episode dumped in in the 50s and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► 52nd I guess all right I'll look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► you google for syracuse of pinching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► harmonica it's gonna be then upon hit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► guarantee you this sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► dangerous query i don't know if i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► yeah don't do an image search just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► regular tech sergeant you'll find it 49 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:20 ◼   ► you were very close and we caught you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► saying your own name twice in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► week caught me is this a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► yes I say I'll say it all day say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► night all day except that whenever when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31 ◼   ► you were having like a whole episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► wreckage about how no one presses your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► name right you never said I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► want to encourage him yeah yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► can't give him what he wants you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► incorrigible yeah that's a poor Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► mmm don't don't you give him your pity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► he does not deserve it we are with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► bad cop today aren't you that's how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► is uh goodness all right so Marco what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► do you think about the switch i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► know that tiff has has gotten herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► one or well maybe it was for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► it's effectively hers i remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► the back story was but like have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► played it at all it would remind me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► your scenario is with that i played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► wipeout clone for a few minutes and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► was fun that's right that's right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► but that's it so far I expect to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► mario kart probably quite a bit amen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► brother but that's what that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► until you know this month i think so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► also the boy oh boy oh tariffs which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► know from my sega days as dr. robotnik's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► mean bean machine tetris i will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► be enjoying that as well when that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► out which i believe is also around mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► kart time and then whenever there's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► a mario game for it i will like that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► there's ever a virtual console that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► allows me to catch up a little bit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► previous Mario games as we previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► discussed I would like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► otherwise you know yeah I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► into it because I'm not that into games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52 ◼   ► I'm I'm like you but I've already bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► it and I've realized that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► Merry game coming by the way in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► you're wondering they're actually there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► it totally is one as yeah but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► three days one I don't I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► those are the real ones now no yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► it's a 3d everyone else is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► finally a real Mara game instead of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► of these and one of these nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► throwback 2.5 g things ya know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14 ◼   ► what i want more 2.5 d to me like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► what mario games are like the 3d ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► always felt like they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► good games but they didn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► mario games to me they felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► different thing you're so stuck in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► past no it's just no I know you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► too d games you're playing through sonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► for crying out loud like you I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33 ◼   ► like to debug I i love the 3d ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► better and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► they're just it's a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► game yeah I suppose I mean I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► surprised by how I talked about this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► I think it was on rectus how games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► I loved in the 2d era made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51 ◼   ► transition to 3d and I and I still love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► them even though like you said it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► totally don't really like Zelda and 2d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► versus eldon 3d very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► mechanically visually like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► things about or different and Mario same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► thing yet I still feel like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:03 ◼   ► through-line I still feel like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► same game the same kind of feeling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► difference is that once they went 3d I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► couldn't go back to the 2d once anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► it's like well why would I want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► jump up and down to D I want I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► jump up and down the three year old it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16 ◼   ► to me just like it'sit's such different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► mechanics like you know certain games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► like back in the like 8 and 16-bit era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► racing games like like mario kart for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► super nintendo play that game for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27 ◼   ► long it was such a great game but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► fundamentally you were really navigating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► a 3d world it just happened to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32 ◼   ► rendered and crude 2d that was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► approximate but there's a lot of tapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► because you didn't have analog sticks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► tapping was all about tapping the d-pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► right but the point is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► translating mario kart from 2d to 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► just made it better it didn't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► like fundamentally produce a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► kind of game it just you know you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► already conceptually moving in 3d and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► just made it better but a platform game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:57 ◼   ► is an incredibly different playing game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► between 2d and 3d everything you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► is totally different a lot of 2d stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05 ◼   ► does not work in 3d and vice versa so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► is a totally different kind of game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► what made me so sad during the 32 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► 64-bit console era was that all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► favorite 2d franchises were basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18 ◼   ► killed off for like 10 years while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► made 3d versions and that was fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► that wasn't it wasn't the same thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25 ◼   ► know i've had this rank before recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► i'll stop it here but 2d Mario and 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► Mario are different games and for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► while they didn't continue both and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► glad they in recent years have continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► to both and I would love to play some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39 ◼   ► those new to slash 2.5 d Mario games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► buy new I just mean made after the 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► so I know they're not new anymore for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► gamers but for me they would be new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► I would love to play them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51 ◼   ► wouldn't love to play them enough to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:52 ◼   ► like buy a Wii U or something so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► hoping they come to virtual console and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► a switch in some form so you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► they're totally different games I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► understand what you're saying in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01 ◼   ► is like mechanically speaking but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► reason I feel like there's a through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► line is not so much like how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► control it and what is it you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09 ◼   ► is on the screen and like you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► does the game work but sort of the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► don't know this I don't say the spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► of the game but like Mario is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► running and jumping that that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► exercising your athletic ability this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► little character it's going to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► the world that's full of hazzard full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► things that you touch to kill you pits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► that you fall into enemies that hurt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► when they touch you and you are running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► and jumping and I feel like Mario 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► captured more than any game that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► tried to do a similar thing before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► and just why it's such an important game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► captured the fun of running and jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► what is fun about running around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► jumping that's and yes it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54 ◼   ► different you're in 3d space the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► rules of the world are different like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► it's not like you know you you live if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► you're traveling downward on the enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► but if you're traveling up or do you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► like all this all the mechanics of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► old game every rule system every sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► how it controls in the air how run works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► you know holding down be to run like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► that stuff went away and was replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13 ◼   ► with something entirely different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► yet I still feel like this is a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► about the joy of running and jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► same thing with Zelda which was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► exploring a world big scary dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► world that you don't understand that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► know that goes on for a long distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► that you have to slowly discover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29 ◼   ► mysteries of and collect items and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► become more powerful and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► solve you know solve a mystery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:36 ◼   ► defeat an enemy and complete a story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► the change to 3d was like you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41 ◼   ► exploring was fun in 2d it's even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► fun when it's 3d with better graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► and breath the wilds as you thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► was fun exploring like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► exploring well this world is humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► and you're exploring is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► constrained in the way as it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► all those games feel like yes Zelda is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► about exploration and conquest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► and you know defeating an enemy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► story and that that's the through-line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► see even though mechanically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12 ◼   ► the game is varied a lot so I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► really depends on what you were what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► part of the game you were there for if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► you were there for the mechanics and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► mechanics change when it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► this is a different game but if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► there for the joy of running and jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26 ◼   ► in this in this new game in 3d even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► thoroughly embodies the joy of running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► and jumping that you will like the 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:32 ◼   ► games so obviously you know were side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► that I'm on and that I think I'm at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► point where i can say i didn't even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► the mechanics of a 2d once it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► that was the best incarnation of a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► that made it you know that did you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► to experience the fun i'm running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► and jumping and then when they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► 3d i just discarded the 2d I'm like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► I get more of that here but if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52 ◼   ► the 2d mechanics the 3d one has nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54 ◼   ► for years waiting for 2.5 d games did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► you guys play f0 on the Super Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► oh yeah mostly looking at markup or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► the n64 frame lock at 60 frames per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► second yeah it looked awesome 60 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_ERcs/4324">TS</a>]

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