00:00:00 ◼ ► in the old days if if I were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► have a show it would be we would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► be together you'd have to be like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► studio with me and you would think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► would i would supply comfortable chairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► for my guests and you you know i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► like forcing guests to you skype is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/13">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► you get like a folding chair that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► was that was outside and as like rains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► come on it you know yeah uh yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► nice to be on again oh I I there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/24">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► couple of things we have to talk about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► guess so as always stuff to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/32">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► but what there's a couple of recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► posts that you've had on your 500 ich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► werde site is that what it's called and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► no that's the domain yep five hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► yeah um but you wrote about the the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► of virgin virgin america yep can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► summarize this and then again you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► it's a perfect piece I will put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► the Xolos but it is perfect insofar as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/55">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► you admit that virgin america only flew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► between a very small number of cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► right so there's a large number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► people who if you don't live in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/65">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► Francisco LA or New York you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► haven't flown virgin right and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► yeah so basically you know I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► it by this point because it's been been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► up like a month or so everyone knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► that Alaska Airlines bought virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► america and as a part of that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► they sort of did this whole big branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► thing certainly around San Francisco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► I assume other cities in which virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► operates or it's sort of like the Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► plus virgin equals love you know type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► Brit side marketing campaign and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► obviously people were worried when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/96">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► someone else bought virgin america that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► there would be you know would be the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► of virgin america and they were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► to sort of play it up no this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► going to make both sides even better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► then whenever it was a few weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► they of course announced that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/109">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► going to be shutting down the Virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► America brand entirely and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► basically merging the planes and in sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► of merging all into one entity which of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► course I'm sure makes sense for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► bottom line that's the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► they're doing it for cost efficiencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► but yeah I mean so people who don't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► services which is I'm not even sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► the current number is but let's say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/136">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► 10 maybe 12 or something like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► not very many still started in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► headquarters here obviously was famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► Branson's Virgin Group and so people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► don't live in one of those 10 to 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► whatever it is now cities you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► of don't really understand why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► who to live in one of those cities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► take virgin regularly are sort of upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► about this and the best push back what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► found most amusing was on Twitter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► Airlines is such a great airline to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► you know I've been on Alaska certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► any flight that goes to sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► Pacific Northwest and you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► sort of one of the common carriers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► it's fine it's a nice airline you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► it's not United sure we get like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► that in a second but it's it's fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► it's not virgin america you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► on a virgin america plane to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► that's like i mean if you think back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► when it when it started whenever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► was several years back you know the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that they were all sort of new planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► the basic thing that i highlighted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► you know in that in that post is i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► people don't understand like you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► level of consistency flying virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► america that you don't get with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► other airline because it's a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/210">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► crapshoot with you're gonna get an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► rickety plane whether you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► one with like you know still cigarette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► uh yes praise you know sticker this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/216">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► do not use under federal law yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► with virgins sort of because it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► know a newer airline they had all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► same i think it was a a380 planes known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► a three it is the big one whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► whatever the airbus a321 i could might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► be that yeah maybe there's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► you know there's sort of standard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► smaller airbus flood plains and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► were all that they all had Wi-Fi which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► at the time you know was was a novelty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► certainly they all had those televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► in the screen backs not just in first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/249">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► class or anything at all the screens all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► the seats sorry had that and you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► very consistent experience you knew if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► you're getting on a virgin america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/256">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► flight it was more likely to be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► flight i mean i'm sure there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► everyone will have a horse story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► every airline but it's not like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► like you hear about united and delta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► and some of the other ones that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► you know constantly a crummy experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► this was this was a definitely a notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► above we had them in philly until about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/274">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► two years ago and we lost them we lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► virgin during the in aftermath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► American oh the merger usair merger I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► told this story before but long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► short it's very simple when when US air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► an American proposed merging one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► problem areas was that it gave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► combined airline too many gates at JFK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► in New York that the eft are the Federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► Aviation there's some kind of limit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► the percentage of gates that any one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► airline can have it any Airport and US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► air and American both had a big presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► at JFK and it was too many gates so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► had to get rid of some of the gates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► virgin decided they would rather take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► more gates at JFK but leave Philly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► entirely but and they couldn't keep both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► because one of the problems of being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► airline is it's really hard to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► planes I mean it sounds silly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► you think like oh you just buy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► call Boeing up and buy a plane the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► right you know I mean like if you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► bought a start at a moving company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► and it took off and we needed more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► trucks we could just go buy more trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► right that's not a problem but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► aviation it's a you know you gotta like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► order an airplane like couple years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► advance right now such a long lead time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► so and so I've been off virgin for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► while but I still get the emails like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► got the email the other day from Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► telling me not to worry my points are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► okay and it's right yeah well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► we'll see of course you know Alaska's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► trying to say all the right things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► know in there in the sort of press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► statement about it they said we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► to be sort of bringing the Virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► experience to Alaska flights and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► including the humorous a bit about there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► being mood lighting you know that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► of the that's like the thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► decided to focus on because virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► america sort of famously has this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► purple hued mood lighting and so Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► is going to do that but they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/383">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► have blue mood lighting so it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► it'll be not the exact same but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► be almost as good and we'll see I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► you know they said that that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► nothing was going to change and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► course everything's changing so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► don't have a lot of a lot of hope for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► the good news if there is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► slight good news it's going to take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► a long time to sort of phase in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► those changes and so virgin will remain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► operating for for I think at least like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► a year maybe a couple years something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► like that but yeah it'll be it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► big change in and as we're seeing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► week with the the airline industry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► is sort of par for the course just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► anything to to screw over customers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► think they only had two or three gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/426">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► in Philly so it wasn't a lot of flights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► it wasn't a big presence and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► small desk for check-in you knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► usually like to people so it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► fair comparison to like American which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► dominates Philly um but II every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/439">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► every time I could fly virgin I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► I you know they had a great nonstop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► service between philly and san francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► which was it you know does a very common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► flight for me for further work every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► time i could i did and i never once had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► to wait like that it's just little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► things like that the people at the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► were like super efficient and nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► you'd get up there and they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► like hey you know and then you'd give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► him your ID and then they'd you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► take your bag if you had a bag to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► her or give you it you know and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► gone that was it and you only had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► lines a never and good service on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► plane my favorite story about virgin was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► one time also i used to get I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► cheapest upgrades to first-class I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► understand they only had the way every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► plane I they're probably all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► they only had like eight first class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/492">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► seats it was like to Rosa too young or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► they still do I guess and every almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► every time I flew I could get an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► from Coach to first class for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► hundred bucks and I'd be like they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► general the first guy seats I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► weren't super expensive when you compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► it to what they are on other airlines so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► yeah I I flew first class on virgin as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► percentage higher than anywhere else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► it wasn't because i had the point it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► because it was so cheap to upgrade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/517">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► the service was super terrific the seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► were super comfortable but one time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► was up in first class and we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► pulled away from the gate a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► and then all of a sudden there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► kind of not another unpleasant commotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► but like some kind of you know thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► hey hey let's go back and they went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► to the gate and some poor sap who had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► connecting flight that was late they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► went back to the gate I'd say it set us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► back about three minutes they went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► to the gate and let this guy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► plane and this bow this guy looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► he won the lottery because you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► didn't ever hear about that I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► seen it before I mean maybe I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► seen it before because i wasn't in first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► coaching to kind of tell ya if the I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► never seen that if the plane stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► backing up and goes for her again uh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► was a nice thing and I was at before cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► at three minutes what's the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► the three minutes and coming out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► was it coming back from SFO to Philly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► and so you're probably going to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► times avoiding to take off anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► for that poor guy who almost missed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► flight uh they just it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► thousands of dollars and happiness for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► that guy and I was made I've seen I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► seen much more of the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► opposite version of that story where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► get the plane isn't even pushed back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► from the gate but they just closed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► door and they will not open it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► though the person's there the plane is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► still there and the door is closed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► so it's just they will not reopen it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► those people not with virgin but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► like countless other airlines I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► that yeah and they were like in a head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► that's the flight attendants were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► nice they were like hey hey you're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► you're on don't want you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► run anymore take your time go find your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► seat you want us to bring you a drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► and they were like he was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► amazing okay sure yeah you know take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► coke you know and it was but to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► point that was sort of like that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► definitely a part of sort of the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► experience with virgin and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► what it is I don't know if they just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► they hired like from a different crop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► people in the industry or whatnot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► people generally didn't seem to hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► their heat their jobs and hate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► lives when they're working at virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► whereas they do you know very often it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► seems like on many other airlines yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► at the big ones and I think Alaska and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► it's like to your point I would compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► Alaska to southwest I haven't flown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► Alaska a lot I've flown it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► at least twice to whenever is the XOXO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► conference in portland right is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► coincided with XOXO at least for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/651">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► years coincided with the tail end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► iphone introduction events in September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► we're just by somewhat coincidence or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► guess not quite total coincidence but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► Apple targeting like the second week of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► September for iphone events and XOXO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► targeting the end of the second week for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► XOXO at least twice for me to go to XOXO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/674">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► it made more sense to fly out to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► Francisco to beginning of the week wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► and then fly San Francisco to Portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► instead of flying all the way back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► Philadelphia and then to Portland um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► Alaska was like you know was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► airline you know I had the most flights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► for that so I flown Alaska at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► Southwest it's it's fine it's I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► it's southwest I float it a lot actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and I like it um it's sort of like um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► you know it's like a nice commuter bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► in the sky right because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► assigned seats and but you get like sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► of these numbers and you stand and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► you get on the plane you can just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► whatever seat you want and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► very simple you know you always I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► you always get the same type of plane so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► that that's sort of a similar experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► but again I mean that it's nice but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► cannot compare to what virgin virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► america like is like the one that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► supposedly which I have not been on yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► i wonder if you have is the jet blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► mint experience um good we're on I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► not been on that okay we do we have jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► blue but they don't fly anywhere i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► out of philly i think yeah and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► think San Francisco has jet blue as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► but i don't think the mint thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► currently in play or at least it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► like if I would take jetblue's i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► i've taken it once before and I've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► it to New York because obviously most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► the time i would take virgin but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► think the mint service operates between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► San Francisco and New York hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► they changed that maybe with the Virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► news but it's like LA to New York I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► think has it and people rave about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► when they take that they they say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► at least as good as virgin if not better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► I don't really know you know all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► the perks and everything having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► take it before but I guess it's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► one to look forward to potentially hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► and it's just an industry and and I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► you you've made it in your column you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► made it a sort of comparison to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► apple and Dell or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► maybe ask us maybe more like Lenovo you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► know where like I think Pat is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► laptop but it's right it's not and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► not a Mac you know it's it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► happens if somebody really tries to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► really good in an industry where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► was fine is generally considered good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► wow you got really lucky you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► fight was flying it was more or less on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► time we landed more or less on time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► and none of my luggage got lost right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► was it was funny we were I was chatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► actually with a in our internal work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► slack with some people about the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► outraged right when it hits and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► there's a long thread going on and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► was the thing that I quoted a co-worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► mine ken was like you know comparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► to who yes sir did the the pc vs mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► thing which i thought would be fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/839">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► because of course that always you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► draws such heated debate on both sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► for that and whenever you compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► anything to to that situation but i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► i think it does feel fairly apt you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► having been myself you know a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► pc user when i was growing up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► switching to the mac and just like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► pc user and it was fine and like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► get a faster pc and sometimes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► windows would break down and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► would suck but when it worked it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► fine and then you know it's uh it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/870">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► totally different experience once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► switched it over and it's I mean do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► have air pods on bow bet you do oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► I love their rights so I do too it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► favorite my favorite thing in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► few years I think yeah seriously love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► them so much but that's it n epitomizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► what Apple stands for to me which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► let's try to make this as nice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► possible even if it's so such a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► thing is just putting to your pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► engineer and having them just work when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► you hit play on your phone yeah and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► taking it to like just just keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/902">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► into tenths of a decimal 99.999% nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► 99.999% nice and sweaty grim tale after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► detail that's the Apple way and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► not like apples perfect my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► example from recent years of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/918">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► totally falling short on this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► remote control for the new Apple TV oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► yeah right which-- like how does how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► this ever come out of Apple as okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► because this is so it is fine and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► not you know what I mean and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► like a comcast remote with 127 buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► right right it is Apple like in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► ways but it's totally on Apple like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► other ways it's epple like in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► ways although like I feel like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► who has one has the exact same complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► and that complaint is that you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/950">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► know if you're holding it right side up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► or upside down and like how did how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► just you know just user testing even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► with amongst Apple employees how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► that not come up i mean that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► first thing that comes up for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► right but it to me virgin was shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► for the air pods like experience from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► check-in to you know getting off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► plane that's what virgin still stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► for a while they while they exist but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► and something like Alaska or Southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► which I am a fan of I'm a big fan of so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► I've flown tons of miles on Southwest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► don't anymore just because they've sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► of dropped nonstop routes between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► cities I go to and I'm as the longer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► more I fly the more resistant I am too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► taking anything other than a non-stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► yeah but I really I do like them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► know that they're not luxurious but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► main reason i like them is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► they do seem to hire really nice people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► and the planes are very consistent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► southwest plane is always clean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► always exactly the same but it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► like virgin which is trying to say let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► make this really nice let's make being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► in a coach seat like a decent humane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► experience and the thing that's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► bummer about it is you know so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► Virgin launched I remembered very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► in San Francisco there was a lot of pomp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► and circumstances there is with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► sort of Richard Branson affiliated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► things but you know deservedly so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the whole criticism at the time though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► was like yeah it's a great experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► but they'll never be able to keep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► going they're not going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► run it profitably and this is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► the way the airline industry works um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► you know in this day and age and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► unprofitable for a long time I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► that they eventually turned a profit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► they were very close to it and so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► was some hope you know that like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► you can actually build an airline with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► great experience that actually makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► business sense as well and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► course that she's got thrown out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► window and they merged I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► l airlines continue to constantly merge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► and continue to constantly charge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► more things for overhead storage just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► adding on fee after fee after fee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► that's just the you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► state of the industry and virgin it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► seemed like was trying to buck that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► trend in it ultimately you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► didn't didn't end up doing it we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► how Alaska sort of takes takes the takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► the mantle but that's what's the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► bummer about it it just it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► showcases that I think it just probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► can't ever ever work it seems like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► of people I know and it does make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► sense but it's a to me key to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► continuing I don't know if I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► success cuz I'm not quite sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► profitable they are but the continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► dominance of the the major mediocre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► carriers your Americans Delta's United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► yet Roe is that they large you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► obvious reasons they they largely depend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► on regular frequent flyers right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► people who once you start racking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► points on a certain airline so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► you're you're locked in so I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► that way I've got platinum see I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► either American i am which is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► nice and it gets me a couple of perks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► and I've got miles I can cash in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► whatever but every time I booked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► flight I still search for other airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► just to look and if I found something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► better cheaper on it on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► airline like I still check to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► Southwest is restored a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► nonstops to San Francisco every day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► look every once in a while like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► think about going back to Southwest on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► certain flights especially if I kit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► and or if I could get a better time a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► day or something like that yeah I I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► the same boat as you I am NOT sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► beholden to any sort of point system i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► have the Virgin points of course but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► we just talked about like they didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► all that many places so obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► would have to take other airlines all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► the time and so I think I have rewards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► programs at all of them and I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► huge status but I've status that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► them i would say fly quite a bit and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► i'm not one of those people who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► is so adamant about maintaining that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► I do know people who are the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► opposite i know people who take flights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► to and from New York City just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► maintain their status level like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► don't actually they don't actually stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► overnight in the city they just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► round trip flight on one day just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► able to maintain their status which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► sounds absolutely insane I it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► that important to me and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► get that much for it you know like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► as a platinum status person on American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► like I still don't get I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► would have to pay to join their quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► unquote Admirals Club to get in separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► the lounges like right and I tend not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► need lounges because I tend to just fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► nonstop from home to my destination my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► destination to home and the only time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► ever really need or wish I had access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► a lounge is when my flights delayed if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► get to the airport on time and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► flight is significantly delayed and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► got you know two or three hours to burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► well then it would be nice to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► lounge you know some places I can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► the amex lounge but other airports don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► have one but it's not I don't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► it I have platinum status and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► don't get it so it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► sense to me why people are so loyal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► that but it really does seem to screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► the upstart Airlines like they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► that one of the reasons they can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► traction is people I ever heard virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► is nice but I've got points on United so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► here I go yep yeah it's uh it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► quite a racket that they that they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► and like you know I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► there's certain other airlines that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► internationally that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► obviously very nice I'm actually getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► ready to go to London and I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► be on Virgin Atlantic it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► sister thing it was like the sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► thing but they weren't exactly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► affiliated for a long time two points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► didn't even transfer I think they do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► but I think they set it up that way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► make it easier to have happen what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► actually happened which was Darrell sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► one or the other without selling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► other yeah Branson wrote like a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► a post-mortem or whatever and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► sort of made some reference to it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► know like losing a child and but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► was all sorts of issues you know with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► with his ownership of it and whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► actually blocked anything it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► no and so that's what happened I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► never flown virgin atlantic but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► love to and my favorite story about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► and it relates to the show is way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► in the day when damn benjamin and i were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► reviewing all the James Bond movies we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► were talking I know where your yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► talking about quantum of solace yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► was just going to bring that up yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► uh bond is is on enroute from England to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► somewhere in South America or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► Caribbean right yeah cuz he's with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► he's with the elder gentleman yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► and then having a drink yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► he's bereft and he's he's getting tanked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► at a there's a bar in the plane and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► with a bartender and he's sitting at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► bar drinking Vesper martinis he I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like 18 of them or something and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► beautiful-looking bar and dan and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► like it was a cool scene you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► it's it's it's kind of unusual to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► bond actually get get Talia he's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► drinking but he's all never seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► drunk and here he is you know drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► himself into a stupor but we're like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► unrealistic is it that there is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► bar on a commercial air flight and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► all these people wrote to me like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► no they have it yeah yeah they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► there that was actually shot on a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► virgin atlantic it's like oh my god I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► gotta get on that line I mean yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► been on them that's a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► legitimate they have those bar areas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► it's amazing it's not usually as quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► as it was I would say in that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► there's usually much more people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► activity around it but yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► that's legitimate it's it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► amazing that was my fifth was some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► favorite feedback ever we were both like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► totally preposterous who would ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► a commercial air something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► it's like something out of the 1960s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► all these people wrote to us tonight oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► yeah it is real and it is not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► fantastic um yeah and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► with virgin is so I rarely Virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► Atlantic I rarely take it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► for what some reason it ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► it's usually far more expensive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► British British Airways and I just we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► just so happen to find a ticket that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► roughly the same price and so we decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► book that because you haven't taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► virgin but if you ever go to London in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► Heathrow they have an amazing lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► tunes well it's probably the best lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► I've ever been in including you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► a haircut you can shower you can that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► pretty that you save a spa they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► this amazing stuff there the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► would be nice because sometimes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► cross-country especially for you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► you're coming from the west coast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► always feel like it's been like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► days since when I get off the plane like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► in Europe I always feel like man I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► like it was 72 hours yeah yes so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► highly recommend that if if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► going overseas all right let me take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► break here and thank our first friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► the show our good friends at Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► you guys know Squarespace it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► place to go to make a website register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► domain anything like that when you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► your next move you're going to need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► website why not start it at Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► they've got beautiful templates they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► got beautiful types of sites to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► from to start so if you're making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► online store you can start with a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► and then choose a template from there if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► you're making a podcast you can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► with something like a podcast and boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► you've got a podcast site you didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► any work you can host your podcast right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► there from Squarespace you name the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► squarespace and I say this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► think is that the resistance people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► might have to Squarespace is you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► well everybody signs up for Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► and you choose from a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► templates and then my sites going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► look like a square space site because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► every it's not like that they've got so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► many templates to choose from and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► many ways to customize them that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► don't even know when you're looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► square space site I was just looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► a I mentioned this on daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► last week there's a new cheesesteak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► place pretty near our place here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► Philadelphia called cleavers really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► great new sandwich shop here I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► looking at their website to place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► take out order and one of the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► click on to see the menu loaded instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► of as a page loaded as a standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► image and I could see the URL I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► see it was hosted at Squarespace I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► like whoa Annapolis and I've you sourced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► and look and their whole site which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► really nice site but doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► anything like any other site I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► seen it's very much strongly branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► squarespace but that makes total sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► doing something outside director parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► like building a website when they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► just do it it's Squarespace and stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► building into great restaurant so keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► in mind next time you need a website for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► anything check out Squarespace go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► squarespace com you get a free demo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► once you sign up remember this code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► Gruber just my last name GRU ber and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► will get ten percent off your purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► why thanks to them for their continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► support of this podcast all right next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► next item on my list at least is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► reaction to the new macbook pros which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► yeah so um and I know you have thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► on this as well and you sir the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► thing that you link to which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► was interesting was a few weeks ago sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► of a pole right of people how they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► about it and so my general take is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► pretty straightforward I just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► hate the touch bar I just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► totally useless I have a few apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► know that are sort of tailored for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► coating things like Pixelmator handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► of other things a bunch a bunch more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that aren't of course but I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► just switched the sort of the fluid a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► setting to be back to just the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► sorta f and or no i didn't sorry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► didn't use the the f keys i used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► function because i use the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► brightness and all that stuff because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► like I just found myself going to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► like way way more than I would use any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► of those sort of dynamic options that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► the touch bar would off offer and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► I don't I I have a hard time I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► early but I have a hard time ever seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► that it becomes like this great feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► of the macbook pro do you disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► that uh no I don't disagree I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► it exists I feel like the touch bar as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► we have it right now exists in a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► no-man's land where you cannot I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► think it's fair to trash it i no think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► it's fair to say this is great I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► it's it's nuanced now that said I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► own one so I've got that I spent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► two or three weeks when they first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► out playing out the review units I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► multiple of them but mostly spent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► time at the 13-inch because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► size i like and i love touch ID yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► don't use daily hearted I don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► escape key as much as some people do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► I do use it and I do still even now even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► if somebody who doesn't use the escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► key all the time I question whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► traditional Escape key and made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► touch bar just run from escape have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► scape key in the upper left corner the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► touch ID in the upper right and have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► touch bar exist between the two I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► right I think that because it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► given it more symmetry as well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► it's you know they have one button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► one side why not have the escape button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► even if they change the size of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► made it square sort of like the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► touch ideas but make it something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► can actually click and I think yet what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► if I I do feel like just reading Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► reading feedback from readers and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► like that I feel like an awful lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► the criticism where the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► relates to the Escape key as for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► utility of the touch part self it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► to say I do i do I remember thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► was really nice to adjust the brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► with the touch bar and I ended I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► I find that so much more tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► honestly to do it that way um you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► so here's before I switched it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► being sort of the brightness as as sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► of default button so it has like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► know brightness and and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► bring up expose and stuff like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► can you there's a setting that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► you know move it to rather than being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► the dynamic touch bar it's it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► your old standard buttons and I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► because I was actually using I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► it's when you hit the function the FN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► key i think that would bring up the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► ones and i was just using that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► time because even though there are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► there is a brightness button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► dynamic version of the touch bar when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► you hit it then you yeah then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► to scroll sort of up or down and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► often i just want like you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► little nit more of brightness not like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► sort of scrubbing you know to see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► the way down all the way up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► difference is it's like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► features that just seems like a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► option on paper but when you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► use it it's much less useful ma'am so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► don't know I I can see the mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► feelings about it I I feel I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► the biggest thing that it needs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► haptic feedback I feel like yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► was reminded of it just recently because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► i I'm I'm I haven't used it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► because I don't personally have a neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► but I'm fascinated by the new clips app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► and I think it's I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► well done even though I realized some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► the initial complaint from other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► are that they're a little confused by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► but I yeah I think it's only confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► at first because its ambitious and tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► to do a lot and so there's a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► there but I feel like everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► they've done once you get it it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► logical but the the thing that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► think of the touch bar is when you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► got your you've got multiple clips in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► project in a row and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► rearrange them you you can force touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► on one and you get like a little you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► the haptic feedback as you drag it along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► to rearrange clips in the timeline right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► and it feels like so you want to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► the one that's in the fourth spot to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► second spot as you drag right between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► second and third you get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► rumbles and you can feel it right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► you can feel like it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► dragging it over physical slots and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► so nice and I just thought boy the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► bar would feel so much better if it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► a little bit of feedback like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► that speaks to I think it was a Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► op right who wrote a post about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► the the usability factor of the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► bar because it's almost impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► use without looking at it which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► very odd right like because that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► what that row of buttons has been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► the entire life of a macbook and so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► your point like if they had some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► haptic feedback where you could actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► tell what you were doing while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► keying on the screen like for scrubbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► or doing some other action that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► significantly better than having to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► down because you don't know where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► you are yeah and I do feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► part of it you know like it some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► ones in the middle I almost never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► like I don't on a traditional F kero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► really I almost never adjust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► brightness of my keyboard keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► know saying sometimes it's like i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► on like a dark flight and I'm all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► yeah I'll adjust the brightness of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► keyboard but i'll just do it once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► it's fine for me to be looking at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► for like micro adjustments to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► brightness of the screen I I am I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► it without looking just by going up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► my left hand to the top left I know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► I Escape key is and the next to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► brightness and even if I'm wrong even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► I go up and I hit brightness up even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► though I wanted brightness down I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► see what happened right away and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► I'm right next door and just slide my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► finger and yep and do that without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► looking and I'm I'm with you with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and I'm the exact same way with volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► and both of those are now problematic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► the touch bar you know if they look nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► like that nice you know little scrubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and everything but just I do not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► at all I mean I don't hate hate it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► just don't see like i said i switch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► to sort of the the old standards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► like you said they're not physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► buttons and there's no haptic feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► so they're harder to use so i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► actually pay attention to what i'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► and then i also i do think i agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► touch ID is by far the best part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► but the weird thing there is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► almost never get to use it because i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► have an Apple watch and I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► wearing the Apple watch and that unlocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► faster than the touch ID does so before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you can even reach up to the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► it's done so there's no point yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► it's good for purchases or whatever yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► for purchase logging in logging in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► the big is you know the money you do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► log in an hour you know open it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► sleep and login way more frequently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► i buy stuff yeah um and so what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► do you why do you think that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► the touch bar because like so part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► the thing that I wrote was you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► of the the title of is a great laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► laptop stagnation the notion being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► we've sort of reached peak form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► dangerous to say for sort of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► technology that we've reached peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► because there's always going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► level of innovation and I think I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► the equip that maybe we'll have phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► schiller on stage saying can innovate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► when they do something new with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► the macbook but like my only line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► thinking is either they're going to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► day try to make it a bigger screen area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► like the keyboard tray be being more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► maybe like apt 'ok digital keys you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► something like that or not even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► replacing the entire keyboard but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► making that a bigger area you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► for different things that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► dynamically do I mean that has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► some line of thinking right it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► just be this this touch bar which isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► that interesting i guess i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► but i find it worries him if their goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► is to replace hardware keyboard with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► virtual keyboard because I I can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► how that would like whatever my I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► of still prefer my older macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► keyboard to the new one the shallow keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► yeah cuz in Newark but it's a deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► case but after two or three weeks my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► feelings we went from I like the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► better too oh I have mixed feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► because I also feel though that my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► one they feel loose and jank jank right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and resin the new ones even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► have shallower feel so clicking them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► feels worse because it's shallow but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► just resting my fingers on them feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► better because they don't wiggle around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► they feel more premium yep and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► problem at first I had a really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► problem and I can't explain why but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► the new keyboards in the macbook and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► mac the just plain macbook in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► macbook pro yep have bigger keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► less space between the keys the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► takes up the exact same amount of area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► and so the distance between just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► two keys like the center of the a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► and the center of the f key r is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► the same so your fingers resting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► home row are exactly in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► position but for some reason because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► keys are bigger I felt for a while like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► my fingers were spread out more yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► get that I think that's something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► needed to get used to I especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► notice it because I use the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► keyboard all the time and that is those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► are smaller keys yeah right yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► that's when I really notice it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► I honestly i think i prefer the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► keyboard is weird as that sounds I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► it's not it's not a perfect keyboard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► maybe it is like you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► sort of the size of the keys just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► something about it feels more familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► than typing on the newer keyboards yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► I can kind of see that like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► talking about like the smart key bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► yeah everyone I don't believe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► almost like on the smart keyboard cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► it it it celebrates the shallowness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► the movement whereas on the macbook it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► like man I still wish that these keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► went in further yes but I can live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► that I really read the the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► between my feelings about the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► macbook pro keyboard and the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► generation macbook pro keyboard I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► thought but the thoughts are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► narrower than the thought between what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► we have now and a hypothetical Virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► Touch bar that was the whole keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► yeah like well what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► this like so the other thing that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► I've chatted with some folks about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► the notion of one way that I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► could have alleviated some of the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► bar criticism is like also just putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► it at the bottom of the keyboard so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► other words keeping the function row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► that as it was and just adding a new row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► because like and especially on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► macbook so here's the thought here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► now they made the the touchpad the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► pad itself right massive it's pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► now um I think it's bigger than it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► to be for anything and so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► shave that down a little bit and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► if you wanted to do some sort of touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► bar type thing put it just above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► touchpad and sort of make that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► touch area especially because apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► whole thing as we all know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► they're not going to do a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► macbook imac macbook pro anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► the weirdness of this whole dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► right now is that they made a touch area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that's so close to the screen but isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► the screen and you know they make they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► have the the famous sort of picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► like you know with a cross out are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► like pointing at the screen because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► just not oregano mccreight and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► that much different in my book to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► of have to go up to this top row and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► have to sort of manipulate touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► that way I would have been much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► happy if we're my hands already rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► sort of at the bottom you tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► something with the touch bar and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► know my I just looking down at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► macbook as you say this my problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► that is that my hands would cover it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► most of the time I think the advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► diving into the top is that you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► it your hands don't cover it whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► this way your hands cover it until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► go to look at it but maybe that's okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► don't know if they've if they tinkered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► without a deer or not but maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► okay because it doesn't matter if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► see it or not because by the time you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► to do something on it you were already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► especially if you have I mean if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► acknowledge that you have to be looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► at it to use it already and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► feel like I don't know I i could see i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► think some people push back on that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► with the notion of what your palms could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► something obviously Apple has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► palm detection stuff for the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► alrighty i'm sure they can figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► out but um I just think like for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► types of things certainly some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► things that they were showing off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► the DJing and all that kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► fun stuff uh you might not be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► really needing to use the keyboard as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► much as sort of the touch area to toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► controls and stuff and so in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► situation it might make a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► more sense but I don't know I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► assume like you said they they may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► tried something or thought about it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► least and they determined that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► wasn't the way to go ma'am I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► what do you thing about the weight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► the size the window size are great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► mean it's not so I have right now I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► a bunch of machines I've a older macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► pro for that's my work machine that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► of was given to me by the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► dish out computers at work and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► I think like a two and a half or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► year old macbook so an older style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► macbook pro then I have the macbook the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► small 13-inch one and then I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► touch touch bar macbook pro and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► other issue there is that while it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► obviously more svelte and lighter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► the the older macbook pro I have it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► not you know anywhere near as light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► it's felt as the macbook itself and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► would want sort of the most portability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► obviously I know that most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► have three options of course but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► people would ask like well I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► the most poor ability I would say go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► with the macbook I mean it's it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► the main problem there now is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► USBC port and honestly you know I carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► around the dongle of course and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► mildly annoying from time to time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► I'm not sure it would be even be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► much better if it's just if it had four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► USB seaports because USBC is still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► doesn't seem quite as ubiquitous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► certainly for the things like I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► you know Lupin things for work all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► time and insert a hook up different USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► see stuff and I almost always need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► converter still so I'm just not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► that that would even sort of alleviate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► the pain so my biggest problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► the older macbook and I have the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► that's you know came out a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► ago so it's it's fairly slow but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► a lot of people said that this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► newer version that came out several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► months ago is significantly faster so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► would go with that one the thing I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► the most about it and I think it speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► to your point that we're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► approaching peak form factor is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► was the to me the part that made my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► personal 2014 I think I get mixed up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► how old a two-year-old i think i got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► in 2014 anyway yeah that makes sense um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► my 2014 13 inch macbook pro the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► difference to me and it's it's petty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► it has nothing to do with actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► computing but it's the ease with which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► can open this display that the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► just lifts up perfectly and if i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► adjust it slightly i just put one finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► on it on the new ones that is and yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► and it just it's just absolute the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► perfect amount of resistance where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► never moves if I don't want it to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► when I do want to move it it's the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► amount of energy possible and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► my old one feel like it's way too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► and heavy to lift and to me that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► that's the that's the the ideal that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► new macbooks have ever more closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► approached to I don't know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► regular macbook like when you lift a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► macbook is it so light that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► thing lifts up or can you do it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► it's right that I would say it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► little bit too light for that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► yeah like you know weigh it down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► little bit while I'm lifting a dollar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► the new macbook pros you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► do that the new macbook pros even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► in theory it's it's worse to be heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► all things considered right they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► make one that was every bit as fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► powerful as the macbook yes they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► do it they're not going to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► heavier just the Apple is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► make macbooks heavier just just to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► it easier to open them right future but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► right now I feel like the macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► are at this wonderful I deal between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► weight of the base where the keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► the battery and everything are and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► lightness of the display and the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► to lift it up I agree and so right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► the form factor is great right it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► great that it's like it's been whittled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► down to sort of this this uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► that that level of sort of perfection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► for exactly what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► what else would they possibly do to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► beyond like you know expanding touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► and doing other things to it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► like that's the form factor there's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► what else are you gonna do to that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► can't really change that now no I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► don't other than you know and again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► not really changed at a form factor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► in theory at some point I presume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► they're going to you know it won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► aluminum forever I mean you know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► like we yes right the macbook still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► a decade maybe more ahead of it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► gonna really be aluminum for 20 or 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► years I don't know so new materials you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► know yep that's basically I do think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► form factor is as you know for and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► wonderful form factor and I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► like don't mess with it and I I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► wonder there's a part of me that wonders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► if the touch bar is basically a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► with it for the sake of messing with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► freshly right that's exactly what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► basically alluding to in that post um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► you know they felt like look we're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► of at the perfect storm of two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► right now right so what we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► talking about sort of the form factor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► perfection right and then on the flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► side we have sort of the the CPUs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► the internals are basically not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► that much faster now because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► more as Moore's Law is has Sloan down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► we're sort of at the point where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► very hard to rationalize a year to year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► upgrade it's hard to rationalize a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► year to year upgrade right for a for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► macbook pro because it's just not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► much faster than the than what the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► of the art was two years ago and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► have those two things coming into play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► and so when Apple's trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► about well what do we do this year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► get you know to get people excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► potentially buying the new machine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► know you can do you can change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► colors of it they've done that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► bit of course with some gold and rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► gold options and I don't think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► really moves the needle though on uh on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► making someone purchase a new one and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► this touch bar thing it feels like to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► that was you know some idea like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► try this you know let's let's see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► this is interesting and that's uh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► a dangerous game for Apple to play I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► think I totally agree and I wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► and it is clearly to me their most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► important product I know we just had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► whole thing with the mac pro and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► there's imax coming out and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► that but the macbooks are clearly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► bread and butter of the mac lineup you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► know if they had to cut back for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► reason you know that's the last max to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► go are going to be the macbooks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► wonder you and I have talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► before and I know a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► obviously have different differing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► thoughts in this but like so the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2878">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► part I think towards the end of the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► I wrote was basically I'm very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► the camp of I would love to just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► everything on an iPad I'm milling 19 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► 95 let's say percent of the way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► the problem is that other five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► matters and so I just can't do it yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► would love to be in that camp though are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► you it and I know you're definitely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► know still in the macbook camp but if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► they could do if they had full sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► parody maybe not you know not quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► easy to do certain things and vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► but if they had sort of full parity in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► terms of functionality would you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► use an iPad more than you use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► macbook no I don't think so i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► longer time goes on the less likely i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► to use to even want to use an ipad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► feel like i have the clarity now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► might I feel like but I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► like I speak to the the mass market it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► I have so many little things little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► custom nerd scripts and things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► have set to keyboard shortcuts on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► that I can't do on the iPad and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► even if I wanted to do through workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► or something like that and i'm a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► super happy that apple bought workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► and seems to want to keep it around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► maybe they'll integrate it in the OS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► like I have a shortcut that it's system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► wide service that I made so that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► convert it the selected text in any app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► from mark down to HTML and the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► command i made for it is command shift k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► I don't know why I forget why damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► because command ship damn is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► minimize windows and so I went to K mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► I don't know but I don't even have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► think about had to pause to remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► because my fingers just know it and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► had it for years yeah but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► ipad pros like we were just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► about they cut you know you can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► the keyboard that's with it and they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► know they have command + Shift + k still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► I guess that in theory they could add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► that they could add stuff to the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► software that would enable something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► like that in theory right but the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► factor doesn't speak to me either like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► last week when I was flying home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► San Francisco after the the shindig at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► cupertino I was at the gate at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► terminal and I had a couple just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► couple of minutes before they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► boarding and somebody dm'd me that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► a typo in a DF post and instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► fixing it on my phone I just I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► had like a couple minutes I just quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► took out my macbook from my backpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► opened it and just without even sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► down just held it in the palm of my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► and opened it logged in fixed it shut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► put it back my backpack like I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► how you could do that on an iPad I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► could do it but you wouldn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► hardware keyboard there's no way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► connect a hardware keyboard and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► get that and and I'm sort of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► way that's one of the sort of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► percent thing is definitely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► writing side of things so I actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► a lot of writing on the iPad but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► sort of right in the in the app Ulysses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► and then I basically export it to medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► or wherever I'm going to publish and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► don't publish though from there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► I wait to do some of the formatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► stuff that I can just I feel like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► just have a much better handle on using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► on a on a macbook and so I wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► publish until after there but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► that's sort of one of the larger parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► of the five percent that is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► holding me back but in in my butt in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► book i'm sort of i'm quite different i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► guess from you in that regard because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► like my ideal computing experience would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► be where i could go on a trip not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► to take any macbook with me just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► the the ipad pro with the keyboard cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► and you know i do it right now for short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► little trips or you know just on a daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► basis like if i'm going to just do email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► or and then do some reading and i go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► a sort of local cafe I just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► grabbing that thing and walking out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► door don't ring a bag it's so it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► just feels like this is the way I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► to be doing computing in my life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► don't want to have a you know even as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► were just talking about even as felt as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► the macbooks are now I just there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► there's too much going on I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► simplicity of doing everything through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► the iPad I totally see the appeal of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► but it doesn't it just doesn't speak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► me and I'd you know and I like I pen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► for me and again i'm a big proponent i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► have been for years fighting against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► argument that it's fundamentally only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► good for consumption and not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► creation i've argued it but for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► personally that actually is very true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► that I i tend to use it I actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► left the cover of mine for a while now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► and I just have it with no cover and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► read tons on it and I read lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► Twitter and I bookmark things to post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► the daring fireball later from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► different machine from it but it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► tend not to do any actual typing on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► but I can see the appeal I totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the appeal and I would totally see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► appeal for long-form writing too I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► like the longer the thing you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► the more the more pleasant it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► did I enjoyed writing my review of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► ipad pro on the ipad pro because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► long review uh and I do kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► that it is naturally distraction-free I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► find I never used the distraction free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► full screen modes on the mac for any app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► ever because I find that it's just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► gets in a way when I want to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► it whereas on the iPad it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► natural it's you know and I'm a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► believer net in general I feel anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► you tack on to a system afterwards is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► never as good as if it was there from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► the beginning so full screen mode on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► mac to me I use it for video and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► about it but otherwise to me it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► tacked on because the mac wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► designed at the start it was designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► have everything windows that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► overlapping you can drag around whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► the ipad was designed from the ground up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► to have full screen apps yeah I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► so I do a lot of it you know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► that i write basically like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► sort of that's that's longer than just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► blurb or something like that i try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► on the ipad and I just it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► about it reminds me of like when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► kid growing up going to my father's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► office and like they had typewriters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► just using the typewriter right i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► know it's obviously very different but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► something about this focus thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► it's almost like you know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► there's a blank sheet of paper in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► of you and the words are magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► appearing on it m and it most things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► my life most things in my life are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► I'm in control of our complete mess like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► my desk is usually just a complete Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► Rooney style mess of papers and odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► objects and boxes and it all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► stuff so I like lots of things I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► her a complete mess other things though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► I try to keep obsessively neat and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► the daring fireball homepage would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► fine example there's no clutter you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► I aspire to that I wish that I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► organizational ability and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► wherewithal to have everything in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► life be like that I I when I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► pictures of people who have lived these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► minimal offices I covet them I do I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► the appeal and I do I look at my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► with all of these windows like if i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► to expose or whatever and see how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► apps i have running and how many windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► are actually overlapping sometimes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► mac looks like a mess and i do I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► the way that the ipad even if you open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► I love how neat it is that if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► like message the messages app on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► right in a narrow iphone with column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► your other thing whether it's Safari or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► your writing app in a square to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► of it I love how neatly that's organized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► where there's no overlap there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► shadows from windows showing depth it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► just to uh rectangles perfectly aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► I love that and I can see how that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► soothing mentally soothing to people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► an appealing um since it's sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► perfect segue and night might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► much to talk about but just curious like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► so obviously apple released the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► you know though the cheaper ipad version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► but they didn't do anything you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► was rumored by many various sites for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► actual new ipad hardware and so are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► presume now were there were at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► of april we're not going to see any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► of event before WWDC so do they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► at wwc do they wait for the fall I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► know it is it's very intriguing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► that the supply chain rumor mill seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► to think it was going to happen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► right like neither last month or the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► something like that and i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► i don't i don't eat and I don't hear any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► rumblings to the ground that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► anything coming before WWDC so I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► feel like it's something that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► they've successfully kept under wraps so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► it could happen at WWDC but if they wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► into the fall I almost feel like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► got to wait till October because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► sounds like after I phone right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► I don't think they'd want to share the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► stage with iPhone because it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► they've got a very exciting iphone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► unveil and right if it's on schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► it'll be like the second week of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► September as I said before I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► they've they've been pretty consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► on that for three or four years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► don't think they'd want to share the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► stage but they could in theory you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► it may not be it may come naturally if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► there's you know like a shared design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► language of a more edge-to-edge display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► it could make sense to unveil them side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► by side I don't know but it would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► more sense to me if they did I phones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► September and iPads in October and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► but you don't think that they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► it at WWDC I guess they could but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► depends how much these new iPads which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► at least some of the you know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► edge-to-edge display where the right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► know that the 9.7 inch iPad is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► going to be nine point seven inches as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► device but that the screen will be 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► points something inches instead of nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► point seven inches because it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► take up more of the front face but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► sounds to me like what the rumor is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► the iphone and if right and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► want to they don't want to spoil it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► right that they want the i reveal come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► out first right but is that am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► overthinking it am i overthinking there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► you know willingness to just let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► product that's ready to ship first ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► first whether it's the iphone or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► don't know yeah and if there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► sort of marquee feature in iOS 11 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► know that was sort of ipad rhyme or ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► focused maybe but yeah there hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► much rumors about iOS 11 at all no even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► though we're fairly close which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► interesting but well other than the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► that there for a while i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► you've noticed this but I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► rumors for a while that months ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► guess more or less when Iowa's 10 came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► out last WWDC there after the event was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► over there were rumors beforehand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► that Apple might unveil some iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► specific ipad pro specific features you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► know and that the keynote came and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► and there were none and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► aftermath the word was well that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► punted from ten point oh but it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► to come in like 10.2 or something 10.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► over 8.3 but we've gotten to 10.3 and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► didn't happen and there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► be a 10.4 between now and June because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► you know All Hands are working on iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► so whether that ships in iOS 11.0 or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► or get punted once again to the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► big update you know in december or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► no but that's the way week but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► have been recent like this time last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► have Pro specific improvements to the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► for multitasking and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► if that is the case and we may have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► answer a riddle right that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► they would launch that and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► they would want to have new iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► functionality is off since the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► would be relatively old at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► right over a year between iterations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► right well and the the 12-inch one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► 13-inch one would be a year and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► really oh really alright at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► um I don't know but I mean both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► launched with I feel a lot of headroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► to wait for the next version because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► they really are pretty fast for ipads I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► mean I've you know they're both you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► faster than I don't know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► faster than the current macbook but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► think they are and they're certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► faster than the macbook that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► talking about the original macbook with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► one port I mean that's how fast they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► yep i'm using the big ipad pro right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► which I almost never use again speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► to obviously is as we all do we just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► a bunch of devices probably more than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► need but it is nice when you're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► sitting at a desk it's a nice sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► second screen yeah I don't know so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► feel like they need to though and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► like I feel like selling points on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► changes to the OS to make it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► bit more you know bring the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► especially the ipad pro a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► more towards the mac in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► capabilities not necessarily copying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► things from the mac and how you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► but just making it easier um I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► thing I would like to see them do let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► take a break actually I mean I hold this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► thought and I'll take a break because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► it's a good good way to keep you posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► spent okay I want to talk to you bout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3702">TS</a>]
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01:01:48 ◼ ► love their products and I this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► company that I hate to say it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► shouldn't even be paying me to promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► their products because I would sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► their praises even if they weren't and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► company is 0 ee r 0 0 makes Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► you don't have to choose which one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► just have one model right now you go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► buy like a three pack you plug one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► them their little white boxes roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► something like that that almost looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► like an apple design product they ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► with apple style really supple even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► the ethernet cables they give you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► box are nice it's like a nice ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► cable it's not like a piece of junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► thing that you got from Joe's cables on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the corner nice cable nice power cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► you plug it into your router and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► you've got there's your primary ero base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► station then you take like the other two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► and you're like maybe your router is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► the first floor you put another one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► the second floor and another one on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► third floor keep them near the steps try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► to minimize how many walls has to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► through and it creates what's called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► mesh network through your house and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► is a huge difference now I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► what you know maybe if you live in if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► you live in a studio apartment guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3778">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► what you don't need really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► narrow its a nice base station but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► really only need one and it really it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► be a nice space station for that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► mesh network thing isn't going to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► you out but if you live in the city like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► I do we have four floors if you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► there's really no way to set up one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► router that I've ever tried that gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► good Wi-Fi signal everywhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► house I ended personally I just recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► upgraded my comcast service had comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► come in got new internet comcast new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► router they gave me a router with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► the thing in the room where I have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► set up in my home office I get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► hundred and fifty two hundred megabits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► per second over Wi-Fi it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► that's amazing performance it's like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► times faster than what I have before one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► floor up still pretty good it's like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► megabits per second something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► but in my master bedroom this is no shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► I swear to god this is true I tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► this with the speed test app I get 0.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► megabits per second Wi-Fi from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► router so it goes from 200 megabits per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► second 20.2 megabits per second so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► the comcast guy was gone and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► knew I had good internet i reset up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► I only have three now I guess still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► 200 or so megabits per second in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► office from euro but my master bedroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► is getting 60 megabits per second Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► that's how great it is I cannot be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► it I didn't have to configure anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► instructions in their little app and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► it just configures everything and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► even tell you that it they talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► other and they fix it up and and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► you've set it up like 24 hours later the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► service is usually even better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► the knit the the eros have communicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► with each other about where they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► hand off to each other cannot tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► how happy I am with this product I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► recommend it highly I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► else to tell you if you need Wi-Fi if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► you're unhappy with your wife I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► indeed new Wi-Fi you'd be silly not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► check it out that what they do is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► recommend one ero for every thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► square feet of your home three packs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► good starting point you can always buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► more and you can hook up 10 in total if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► you need to so here's what you do go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► eurocom and use the code actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► know what forget the code screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► here's what they've done they've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► rid of these codes and to celebrate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► first birthday what they've done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► they've just dropped their prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► permanently so instead of using a code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► you just go to eurocom and now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► get a three pack for just three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► ninety nine dollars used to be 499 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► you can get a 2-pack for 299 that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► to be fifty dollars more so to get here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► at this new price just go to eurocom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► you can get them at best buyer or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► amazon if you want they don't care they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► don't they don't even care if you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► them direct so get if you need Wi-Fi get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► an arrow love this product I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► you and I talked about arrow before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► were sponsor of your podcast which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► that's nice I remember the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► read you know what I'll get back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► the point I wanted to make about ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► I've got my finger in the air this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► reminder i know the point I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► calm but we could go on a digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► right now I remember the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► heard about euro was I read it in Walt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► and I read his description of it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► knew that I was suffering from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► problem he was talking about at the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► years I had an apple airport whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► the best the best apple I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► still the most recent one because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► haven't updated it in years yeah the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► they're Ford extreme yeah the one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► Gabriel tall yeah I have the same one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► and i had the same one now i have euro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► same time I had it on the second floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► residence and it was ok and it my office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► was one floor up and it got pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► Wi-Fi our master bedroom on the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► floor yeah it wasn't bad wasn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► is it like it was with this comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► router but it wasn't great um and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► for whatever reason our garage on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► first floor one floor down got no signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► whatsoever I don't know if it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► the garage had insulation I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► what the heck it was I read waltz column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and I was like this sounds amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► because a it solves a problem i have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► be he's telling me that I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► configure just no you don't you don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► into an admin interface and start typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► in IP numbers you don't start picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► channels you don't have to set one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► them in bridge mode and one of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► something mode you just hook them up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► tap buttons in the app as you hook them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► up around your house and follow their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► general advice of you know where best to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► put them and then all of a sudden you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► got a network that every room in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► house has good internet I was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► sounds so amazing and it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► little the literal truth that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► exact experience of using it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► yeah anyway the digression would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► waltz announcement that he's retiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► yeah obviously significant news within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► the world in which in which we inhabit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► um yeah you know like it's funny when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► moved to go so I was working as a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► developer down in San Diego and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► writing on the side just for fun and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► some point you know VentureBeat at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► time came calling and you know wanted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► to to sort of come up and consider sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► and I just like sort of laughed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► myself like thinking like no one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► make a living sort of doing that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► right like I mean you know it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► like too good to be true and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► around you know the same time there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► think there had been a like a profile or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► maybe I was even just googling it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► just like you know the story of the rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► of Walt Mossberg sort of getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► obviously it wasn't blogging at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► it was for the wall street journal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► sort of making his way into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► that hadn't existed before right he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► he was covering politics and then all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► a sudden he decided he was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► cover personal technology and again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► blogging exactly but you know not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► dissimilar from from I think what sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► of the ideal state for a lot of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► certainly for me at the time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► that's what I aspired something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► something like that right I just read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► I will I swear to God put it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► notes there's an interview I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► just came out today but if not it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► out last night an interview with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► Walt and the columbia journalism review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► right i haven't read it yet but i saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► it as well yeah he was at 1991 he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► the lead national security correspondent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► for The Wall Street Journal which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► columbia journalism review says is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► literally one of the most coveted spots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► in all of newspaper journalism I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► probably you know you could count it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► prestigious gigs you know the Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► Washington Post and a handful of the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► jobs there would be something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► because national security is of utmost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► importance and when something breaks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► it's you know it becomes you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► own the top pick you know top right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► newspaper and I mean just no breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► news is more important than national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► security news all right so he had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► job he obviously had decades ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► him in his career and he gave it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► create what was there then unheard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► which was an in a national major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► newspaper a personal technology clump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► everybody you know like like the CGR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► Street you know news people were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► boy what did he do why did he get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► terrible demotion for great um yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► equivalent thing would be today and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► hard to come up with something because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► like because honestly it's hard to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► hard to envision something that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► sort of become as pervasive as as just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► technology in general right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► could say like oh I'm going to stop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► Apple beat because I want to write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► Bitcoin um and you know people would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► like but you're on the you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► covering the most valuable company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► the world why do you want to write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► sort of this this nascent technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► thing and you know like it's a it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► one hell of a leap a faith that he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► and obviously like I said he sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► know was the the is a pinnacle of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► that and I think you know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► generations of Engadget's gizmodo's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► know all the people who were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► gadget reviews certainly you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► that was the pinnacle and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► just in general sort of writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► technology called I can't say it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► than him here's waltz exact words in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► this interview there were a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► computer columns in a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► newspapers and certainly there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► computer magazines but these were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► written by geeks for geeks my pits to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► the journal was that I wanted to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► column that didn't use a lot of jargon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► that treated people with respect for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► their intelligence and I think that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► not be understated that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► gist of Walt's it still is the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► Walt's writing that it was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► computers for dummies it was it was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► angle was that the problem is with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► complicated stuff not with the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► who can't understand the complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► stuff and that it did two things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► help people figure out how to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► journey in the technology by telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► them what was good and what was bad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► the market explaining when some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► development happened what it meant what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► it was who it might be for that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► of my goals and the other one was to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► the power of the platform and the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► that I would have in this column because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► it was an opinion column in a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► push the industry to stop ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► normal people and stop treating him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► that was it that was my idea and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► worked and I can't see I mean I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► say it oh that's that's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► perfect because he sort of he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► whether you could argue you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► helped certainly helped usher that era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► in but he also just he foresaw the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► that it would move from you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► the enthusiasts and in and geeky people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► just being really into technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► and you know reading things like PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► world and things like that to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► going into a mainstream thing and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► mean it is you know one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► technology right like there's every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► single person in the world in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► capacity uses some sort of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► and we could you imagine sort of if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► know if the pc worlds were still sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► the the norm in sort of writing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► that it would seem insane right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► because no one would have sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► guide to figure out how to use any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► this stuff and the timing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► amazing that he did it and he'd made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► this decision in 1991 because in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► opinion what made computers mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► arguably to fold but i think it's single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► fold i think windows 95 obviously had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► some part of it where the mass-market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► lower-cost pcs jump from having a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► Jenky operating system like windows 31 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► to having something that looked pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► nice and was a little certainly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► better organized but the bigger thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► just the internet itself which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► and and you know people who love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► computers i certainly didn't foresee it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► I you know I was of the opinion as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► somebody a kid who grew up loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► computers I couldn't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► everybody else didn't love computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► want to spend as many hours a day as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► they possibly could on computers but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► normal people what made computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► something that they didn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► something they cared about deeply was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► that they got turned into communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► everything it you know humans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► creatures res were born to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► communicate with each other and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► technologies that allow us to do so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► the ones that rock it off I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► could even talk about the automobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► from the Henry Ford era a century ago as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► altima tlie is a communications device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you know that yes you could use it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► bring things from one place to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► but the fact that you could go visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► people who you couldn't visit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► you wouldn't have time to get there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► huge part of it right and computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► before they were communication devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► or went in like the dial-up modem era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► when you had to dial in and telnet into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► a bulletin board and use you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► cryptic command line things and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► would understand it like geeks got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► early we spent time on bulletin boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► communicating with each other but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► available on the Internet it does when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► it exploded but Walt had his column from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► 1991 55 years before that and so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► already established as this voice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► authority when the explosion already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► happened yeah and and I mean the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► obvious thing in the world is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► extrapolation of that right because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► you had the not only was it a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► everything together and you had it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► you all the time right one thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► was curious to your your take about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► topic on with you know with Walt moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► on was who do you think takes up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► mantle then as sort of the I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► go to either technology columnist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► reviewer you know we know the names who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► are sort of at the at the bigger places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► you know Farhad Manjoo at the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► Times Wall Street Journal is still doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► the combo right of right with Johanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► and with Joyner right and the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► but so what and then David Pogue I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► know is still at yahoo i guess or is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► nod i don't even know like what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► to happen is he going to be a duck so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► but i feel like i don't know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► yeah whose future is so uncertain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► right is he gonna be a ethos or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► the hell that govern he's gonna become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► so Oh Jeffrey Fowler yes Jeffrey color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► sorry Jeffrey sorry Jeffrey uh but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► like so what how do you think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► plays out or is it not one of the giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► you know sort of old-school publications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► is it some some other is it so mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► Gurman you know was announced this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► Bloomberg's launching a like a gadget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► show with with Garmin oh I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► that yeah it was unlike I said axia so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► Axios you know the new uh the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► newsletter thing from lyon and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► group um yeah they broke the story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► uh it looks like it's going I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► exactly what is going to be cult Alden i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► had actually had to link here so i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► it up but yeah i was just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► axios because inna freed is took over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► and as running the technology beat for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► them and she was at the Apple shindig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► last weekend I was talking to her about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► it it's an interesting format and i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► to her i said you know i'm not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► saying this because you're here but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► have to say that especially politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► wise you know i'm more keenly attuned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► every ever since november and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► last few months it's surprising how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► of the links that have bubbled up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► surface politically have been axio sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► like it didn't take very long after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► axios launched before I I noticed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► I was like how long has this been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► because all of a sudden this is in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► it's popping up every day and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► checked and I was like oh it's only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► two weeks old yeah it's not like I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► oh yeah it's like right from the get-go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► though actually been as they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► great and that not to do too much of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► aside on the aside but yeah so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► in my world in my current world in vc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► obviously everyone was reading dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► primack it when he was at fortune his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► newsletter and he moved over to Axios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► sort of around the time of their launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► and then they have the mike allen guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► who famously sort of wrote the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► the politico newsletter for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► and it's insane because he literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► writes it every single day and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► fills it with a ton of content every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► single day it seems to get legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► inside the White House scoops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► obviously prime it gets his scoop Cena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► will get hers and it's just like on down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► the line they have a they have a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► killer product and team yeah yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► really it's they did a very keen job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► focusing on just getting great talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► just you know they have a great format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► and I like you know it's a good it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► good there's not i don't see any clutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► on screen that is annoying me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► they've got this focus on writing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► short articles that just get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► point which I think goes over really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► there's no padding in the articles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► they've got great talent on all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► beats which is to me a great combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► it's a good format with a good focus its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► user-friendly and they've assembled a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► really good team of talented people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► with deep sources so anyway and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► a grit and just they do a great job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► brevity to like they don't just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► don't drag on that's what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► long way so much on the web that drags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► on because it's like they want now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► like I feel like in the old days the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► problem like eight nine years ago was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► that the sites because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► counting pages they would break up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► breakup articles you know click here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► next page next page but now I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► articles are padded for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► being able to algorithmically interrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► between paragraphs to insert either ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► or promotions for other thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► site and so yeah I noticed they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► mostly reading on the phone is it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► was just oh my god I forget who it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► don't want to mention it because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► want to give him any attention but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► was an article I was reading last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► where they had three interruptions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► the same article to promote a pot a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► podcast that they were launching for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► same podcast three times in the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► between paragraphs and on the phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► a huge it's a huge interruption between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► like where your eyes find the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► paragraph or anyway Axios does a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► job on them so Gurman singh is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► gadgets with german huh that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► idea bloomberg show so it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► a digital video series that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► going to launch across all the Bloomberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► stuff including the terminal it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► like but then they're going to package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► it together and eventually sort of put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► it on Bloomberg Television as well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► I know he's been very onerous I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► that's why you know I can't say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► close friends with him but I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► done friendly with him he's been on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► show and whenever you know I like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► now that now that he's you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► gone pro he's he's getting invited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► Apple events and I always try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► make a point of saying hi I know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► talking to him that a big reason he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► to Bloomberg instead of anywhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► was the promise of video and TV stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► you know these right he's interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► that so I'm not surprised at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► but so you know it amongst those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► or someone else like is there's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► who takes up that mantle or are we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► in an era now where it's so it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► the norm that there's going to be sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► of the you know five to ten go to serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► it I don't think there is anybody it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► takes the mantle from mossberg I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► don't and and I just don't I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► see how it happens because I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► it's not like the New York Times The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► Wall Street Journal aren't still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► important but they're differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► important now where I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► they have singular voice maybe like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► the new york times op-ed page you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► like a Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► still have that influence but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► know in technology I just don't see it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► just it i think the fact that Walt was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► there so early and was so established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► that it combined with the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► power of the Wall Street Journal even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► today I mean wall street journal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► still super popular but the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► was doing it at the journal I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► see how anybody's going to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► position it's almost like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► Michael Jordan retires who takes over as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► Michael Jordan like maybe they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► Braun who comes along but I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► whoever that is isn't here yet yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► gonna have to be sort of different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► maybe even a different format right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► and you know maybe this this German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► thing becomes interesting i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► like you know some of some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► other folks who have great history like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► steven levy is a good good friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► mine obviously he's still getting a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► know some amazing stories for for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► back channel stuff which is underwired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► now and you know there's there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► to be sort of there's still the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► group of folks who have so much prestige [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► around them and the bigger companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► still comfortable sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► talking to them versus you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► some some random person like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► like sort of when when Mark was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► when mark Gurman was at a 9to5 mac he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► didn't get invited to any of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► things right even though he's breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► every single story it was already too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► late come to the enhance right like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► he was doing that was that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► adding adding to the overall quantity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► the information in the world had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► to do with what was at the event it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► five months before the event right I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► feel like the closest would be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► wonder it I think he did the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► because I think part of being pression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► with Walt was that I think he was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► think he was smart to go to create the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► all things D brand while at the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► street journal and and it did again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► columbia journalism review mentions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► they did that he and kara swisher did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► that when the consensus among print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► journalists was still to treat the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► as an ugly stepchild right right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► writing primarily for print and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► there's some b team that takes the print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► stuff after it after it's gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► the print process and i don't put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► the web thing or whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► treated as an ugly stepchild i mean here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► in Philadelphia if I don't want to go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► a super long side but that Philadelphia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► the two newspapers are the Inquirer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5098">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► the Daily News and they made a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► in the late 90s that rather than focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► on having like Enquirer calm and philly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► daily news com or whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► call the domains be a quality things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► they made like a joint thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► philly.com and they had content from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► both newspapers but they just sort it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► was never really clear which articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► were from which paper even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► independently has print operations they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► were completely separate and rivals it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► completely separate rivals even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► obligation our organization but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► Philly comp and it was an ugly website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► it was slow to load they always they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► were at the forefront of using paywalls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► and and it almost bankrupted the comet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► it did bankrupt the company the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► isn't it you know they ended up having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► headquarters and and move into you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► genki office space and it you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► treating the web seriously really almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► ran him into the ground I would say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► was it the opposite where Walt was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► know with all things D they they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► like will make you know will write for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► the web first yep it will make white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► only content that plus the conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► business I mean right you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► which came favorite curva 2003 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► think they started the all things D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► website in 2007 I also think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► know leaving leaving the journal for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► you know what five six years of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► career to start recode at which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► then merged with you know box and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► the verge it cetera was probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► right thing to do I really do think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► and I think it was at an eye on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► future but I wonder how much it lessened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► his influence like yeah like I'd serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► really for Cara and and what she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► best with breaking scoops it's fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► think in fact it's why I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► think it was all win and in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► she's got equity in the thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► scoops go out to everybody who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► about scoops when they come out but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► mossberg thing of being a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► spokesperson for the everyman fright as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► a product reviewer I do wonder whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► his his voice was lessened by leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► the journal right and I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► that's the hard the hard you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► of gap to close because every man it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► not read The Wall Street Journal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► know only but like they know of the Wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► Street Journal he ever man knows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► wall street journal they'll know Walt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► Mossberg at the wall street journal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► certainly he had a big enough name for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► when he leaves the wall street journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► to take some of that audience with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► but it will never be the full audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► of a you know a nationwide distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5257">TS</a>]
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01:28:48 ◼ ► mainstream audience rather than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► what I think what recode was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► itself which was much more targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5332">TS</a>]
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01:29:18 ◼ ► been exactly the right thing to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► yahoo and and you know it might be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5359">TS</a>]
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01:29:24 ◼ ► personal finances but I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► think that if Pogue were still at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► New York Times he might be in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5368">TS</a>]
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01:29:32 ◼ ► facto like David Bogut the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5372">TS</a>]
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01:29:36 ◼ ► brand and David Pogue it at Yahoo tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5376">TS</a>]
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01:29:42 ◼ ► of interesting I know it's not a direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5382">TS</a>]
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01:29:47 ◼ ► of sort of like the siskel and ebert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5387">TS</a>]
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01:29:53 ◼ ► the the pinnacle of doing film reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5393">TS</a>]
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01:30:03 ◼ ► unfortunately passed away and like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► then takes up that mantle and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5407">TS</a>]
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01:30:19 ◼ ► there's no no more Siskel and Ebert and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5419">TS</a>]
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01:30:28 ◼ ► right but after after he died that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5428">TS</a>]
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01:30:33 ◼ ► who I would think you know I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► do like AO scott i personally i love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► uh what's his name Anthony lane in The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► New Yorker oh right yep yep I read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► two yep I I get to the end of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► issue of The New Yorker and I I either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► if I ever see I don't read them unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► I've seen the movie but as sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► keep all fans and I kept Markham and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► then when I do see the movie I go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► and I do the same exact if I can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► Anthony lanes and I do the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► thing for the same reason or rip it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► and i wanted i want to just the parolees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► ripped up reviews in his face and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► you joyless yeah don't you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► sometimes a movie has just meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► fun night but he's very good at writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► those reviews so I still read all but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► can't say that like I anybody's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► that like Ebert i would say that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► Walt is sort of the burden cisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► combined baby anyway yeah anyway good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► luck oh it's gonna be weird it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► be weird not seeing him around I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► you that yeah I'd are you going to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► be at the coat conference for i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► that's where he's saying the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► actual goodbyes so that'll be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5506">TS</a>]
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01:31:50 ◼ ► if i can i can wrangle in it it is I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► know that's it that's a promote right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► that to be a promotion here but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► very good conference they do a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► job I think the reason I never have even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► thought about seeing if i could go is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► that it seemed so close to WWDC and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5523">TS</a>]
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01:34:00 ◼ ► edge photo no bezel it just goes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► from one edge to another and they comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► with all the stuff you need to mount it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► on a wall and it just looks so striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► to have a really high quality photo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► looks like it's printed directly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► glass on the wall with no frame no bezel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► just edge to edge glass that is pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► photo it's a great great gift it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► great product for your own home if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► you've got walls to fill and decorate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► where do you go go to fracture mean calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► / podcast and that sounds like a fill-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► URL that I'm botching like it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► to be my own code but it's not it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► fracturing calm / podcasts all they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► is keep track of all the people who come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► from any podcast and in the end when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► buy something they will ask you a walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► one question survey which is where'd you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► hear a fracture from that's where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► can say the talk show or daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► or whatever you want to say and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► know you came from here so my thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► that go ahead and buy them their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► greatest gift you ever FF fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► all right back to the ipad here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► thing i would like to see them do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► biggest request would be to have a multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► tasking mode similar to the one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► have now where you arrange multiple apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► in full full height columns but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► like to be able to make them I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► know exactly I don't have I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► envisioned or invented an interface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► make this to figure out exactly how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► to do it but I would like to have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► more arbitrary so if you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► three you could have three if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► to drag one from the middle to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► you could somehow drag the you know put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► your finger in like the nav bar or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► something or do a long press on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► drag it over rearrange them um and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► would like them to do away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► bothers me somehow and I can't quite put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► my finger on but it just feels like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► whole thing it still makes the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► field thing feel tacked on to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► the left one is always main and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► right one is like the junior app right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► right it doesn't feel right to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► doesn't feel it's like on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► there's never it's there's a front most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► window and then there's all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► windows and they're all equal and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► click on one it becomes frontmost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► it's every bit as legit as the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► ones like so if i have three apps on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► ipad in columns side by side when i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► the middle one I feel like it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► every bit the real the main app as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► would be as if it were the left one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► secondarily I would like them to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► out a way to more visually clarify which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► one is the is currently has the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► right all right um but so with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► three the notion of three does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► ratio wise for sort of the you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► big the Attic because I think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► you do the size classes right it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► be it your apps should rearrange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► themselves you know should use out using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► auto layout etc to any arbitrary with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► you shouldn't be worried about exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► whether it's exactly you know 767 pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► or I got that wrong but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► did you shouldn't be worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► hitting this short list of exact pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► like a mac app you should be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► rearrange to any arbitrary width I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► saying that the that the ipad should let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► you drag the little divider and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► it from 750 pixels to 748 pixels I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► like the fact that the ipad isn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► fussy and has these set sizes that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► that the apps clip2 is actually nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► Yeah right like it's it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► bothered me a little that you that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► you resize a mac app window that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► never really perfect it's always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► where you know whichever wherever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► left off the mouse right so you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► want a combination of those things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► be just it being strict in sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► formatting but just being more options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► for what you write how you can format it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► right and I don't want infinite options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► I feel like you know like a 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► iPad maybe the maximum is three maybe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► the dry point nine the maximum is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► you know I trust Apple to work that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► but if i want to go 5050 I want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► two that are exactly 50 50 or if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► to go like two-thirds one-third I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► do that very easily and if i want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► one-third one-third one-third 43 I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► do that easily uh and do you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► think now I assume the ipad certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► the ipad pros at the point where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► could run three apps simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► without an issue i think so without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► question and especially with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► that yeah i think so i think it has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► ax frame to do that um yeah i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► to see something like that i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► know one of the biggest drawbacks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► not huge but it one that I have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► I use the I've had a ton is just there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► still a little cutesy with sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► switching between the apps you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► still have sort of these the animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► that go on so sort of you know flip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► around and whatnot and it just makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► a little bit longer than it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► right and so if you're really into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► using two apps yeah I know you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► this side by side things and I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► for certain maps it makes sense to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► that for but i would even just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► just make it as fast as possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► switch between two yeah i did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► tweaked that in iOS 10.3 and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► it's a little bit fast yeah a shorten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► yeah like I'm using it right now yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► mean it is faster because it slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► right in now but they still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► there's still cute a little cutesy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► the animations yeah and it the longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► you use a computer like the more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► you use an ipad as like your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► writing computer it the more those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► animations great on you because the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► sensitive you are to knowing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► waiting for the animation and not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► waiting for the computer total and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► feel like in the classic days like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► the original mac like 84 85 86 when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► first max first came out and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► desperately desperately slow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► desperately starved for every resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► you can imagine disk space and ram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► video ram and everything when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► double-click something and you got those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► zoom rectangles that showed it coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► part of it was to help you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► okay you've opened this folder and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► opening into a window and the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► would help you do that but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► reason your animations were there was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► give you something to look at while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► were waiting for the computer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► actually do it because it wasn't going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► to happen instantaneously anyway whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► sort of solving two birds with one stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► which was it was giving you this visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► clue of telling you what was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► like oh this folder is opened into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► window now and when i closed the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► it closes into the icon from which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► opened i see the folder is a window in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► the window is a folder and the folder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► i go back to that window as a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► visual state when the window it rep its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► corresponding window is open run but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► animations never felt like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► slowing you down because you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► waiting for the computer anyway and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► computer's got faster I feel like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► visual clues like I still like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► ways like on the ipad or iphone when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► tap an icon and the app animates as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► opens up i still feel like it's amit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► don't feel like it should I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► like the screen should flash instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► but I feel like that animation should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► very fast right um and just playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► around with it now like so I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► political job sort of if you use command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► tab which you can use if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► keyboard you know hooked up to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► the iPad it's it's actually very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► it's pretty good um but if you just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► the double click of the home button it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► a slowish zoom out and then you click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► the one you want and then it's a slowish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► zoom in and then the worst of all maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► and I don't know I assume very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► people actually use this but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► you can do the forefinger sort of swype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► thing and go from sort of app to app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6116">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► unnecessarily slow so yeah I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► never used that as a result of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► that's currently I guess the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► the art the only other thing I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► to head to the ipad discussion since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► were talking about sort of newer ones so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► the pro that i'm using now still feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► superfast the newer 9.7 pro super fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► but i will say the iPad Mini is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► slow these days I still use it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► know for certain times reading take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► out with me since it's nice and small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► but that's pretty slow and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► there was some debate back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► whether or not they would actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► sort of get rid of that product and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► hope they don't but anyway I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► because it does stick out now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► it's actually at an entry level it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► more expensive than the 930 937 the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► or level yeah it does have more storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► so it's not completely inexplicable why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► it's more expensive but it does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► weird because up until this most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► introduction of the quote new 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► iPad there was a correlation and cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► between okay the small one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► cheapest the mid-sized one is mid priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► and the new big one right the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► expensive and now of a sudden there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► weird situation where if your budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► conscious you're going to get the 9.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► seemingly getting more more of a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► than you are you know for 329 than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► would at 399 for the mini and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► it's been over two years right since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► it's been updated at this point oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► I don't know it's done though I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► know i mean it's it's hard to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► don't know i guess it really it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► down to how many people are buying it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► mean it an Apple Apple knows that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► isn't going to tell us but I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► surprised either way I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► surprised if it gets a very quiet update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► more or less like with the specs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► quote new 9.7 inch iPad just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► smaller size and it just right sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► there that may know I don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► knows if they could lower the price but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► um maybe and I would be surprised if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► just never gets updated in two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► from now it just goes away that the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► of got killed by the plus-size iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► right and yeah especially if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► when the if and when this new its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► top-of-the-line iPhone comes out if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► even makes it even more of sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► glaring discrepancy between them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► and I wonder I can't help but think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► the the pro uses like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► there's ever going to be an iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► Pro I just don't but I don't they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► gonna make keyboard that small I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► it would be would really take child I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► did get one of those keyboards that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► like the logitech one that you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► with it they was so ridiculously small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► not very useful uh it is good though as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► a like a reader you know like it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► it is wrong emphasized and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► really do just read but maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► thinking is that for the people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► use it they mostly just reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► doesn't matter if it's long in the tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► and a little slow at this point I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► know yeah but I can't see I'm adding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► smart connector and having a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► for it yeah did just it it's too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► the screen size to actually make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► ergonomic keyboard and you all you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► to do is play with logic 1 45 seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► know that I am I talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► before I still think it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► that the Apple 18 when they had me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► had a briefing for the new iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► clips app and stuff and I went up to New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► York and and saw it they they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► a special keyboard for the new 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► iPad but in collaboration with logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► they're supporting this logitech case / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► keyword which is sort of it's very thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► it's like rugged but it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► can totally see if you think about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► the context of like a k-12 school you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► think oh yeah I can see why they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► something that would easily survive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► a drop but one of the reasons it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► important is that you put it into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► case you put the ipad in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► that's totally surrounded and it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► lightning port inside and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► if it has a battery or not but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► connection to the keyboard it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► hardware connection to the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► and that's essential for k-12 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► all of the standardized tests that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► place on a computer it's mandated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► there's no wireless connectivity yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► you can understand you know it's I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► it I get it no wireless whatsoever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► like complete airplane mode otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► the software decks that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► airplane mode and and won't run and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► could totally see I've got my app I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► like if it if a kid can cheat via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► impressive um but yeah I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► fraud I mentioned is the other week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► the show with dan frommer he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► he and his friends used to I forget if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► he said Palm Pilots I forget what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► had but when he was in high school I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► something and they were I ahran their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► cheats to each other if they're just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► I wonder if they I remember like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► know that remember like the ti heels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► Texas Instrument sort of scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► calculators we used to have all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► fun things on that I think you could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► doom like it an emulator to run doom on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► it and some other fun stuff yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► too young you're you're you're too young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► for me I didn't have anything of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► capability but we had calculators that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► had they just had the the numeric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► display but you could type letters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► them too but it was only on one row and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► it had like memory functions and so our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► cheat our way of cheating was to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► brief as possible cheap notes in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► memories auctions and they don't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► them up and instead of just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► numbers it would you know be some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► of like 32 character oh yeah that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► you know that's how you yep yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► children find a way yeah no matter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► technology anything else that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► to talk about um the only other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► and we can sort of briefly talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► interesting you you had sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► shortest rant and linking to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6478">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► and it does relate directly maybe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► some of the ipad stuff we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► talking about is the app bundle size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► thing ah because there was also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► and I had a not really back and forth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► responded to you and they both got a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► of yours and mine both got a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► likes because i think this resonates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► with people you were talking about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► that tweet the dropbox app like why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► it 260 megabytes or whatever and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► your linked post you were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► someone wrote a breakdown of why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► facebook app is so big now right I so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► noticed this because I was without Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► service for a week or so and so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► living entirely off LTE and I have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► upgraded our verizon plan to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► unquote unlimited but i've read the fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► print when we did it like our family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► plan and unlimited is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► unlimited there's i forget what point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► but there's a point where they reserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► the right we're in your month if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► over like 20 gigabytes or something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► reserve the right to throttle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► something like that it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► unlimited and so one of the things I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► in the week or so I was without Wi-Fi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► I didn't update any of my apps with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► update all I would just go through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► look for ones that I either thought were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► essential or like small and it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► how many apps so more or less I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► update any app over a hundred megabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► and by the end of the week I had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► twenty six app updates it's amazing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► amazing how many of them are over 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► megabytes I know and I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► without question that's creeping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► across all apps over time is it was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► of one at maybe it was the clips app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► something like that it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► apple's apps i noticed the other day you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► know i think it was clips maybe and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► was like 6 megabytes and i was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► my god I don't even remember the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► time I saw an app update that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► tiny because they're all now at least 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► and then many are over 100 some over 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► low you were talking about and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► insane and so I like that the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► linked to like sort of breaking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► looking unpacking the the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► Facebook's bundle for that and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► have so much cruft in there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► that's obviously duplicate duplicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► framework to put get copies of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► image assets and and even that even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► you got rid of all the duplicates it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► that still seems like it would be big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► but it's crazy I know I know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► somewhat and I know one of the things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► that it's these analytics packages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► the apps are all using and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► come as binary blobs where you just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► give you this framework to toss into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► your Xcode project and the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► is in there and it's you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► somebody else is from the SEO team on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► your company is like what we want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► analytics product to and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► sudden you got two of them and they add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► up to 100 megabytes and it's not it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► even your app uh right about the example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► is an innocent either because the iworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► apps are humongous Oh huge and Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► those are some of the worst that I works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► all the the productivity stuff whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► I have Microsoft Word one of them and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► was like it was like six hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► megabytes like what in an app update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► what are they doing it's all templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► and and the image assets to go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► template I can't imagine what else it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► would if you languages and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► even know um one of the things I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► obviously Facebook does one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► reasons for the bloat is there always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► including various a be tests in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► app and so they will trigger things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► based on country I think based on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► things as well to try to you know a be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► test various functionality back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► TechCrunch days you know I used to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► sort of know where to look and who to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► ask about sort of unpacking some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► because you could always find stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► think I found the ipad version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► facebook app when it was still bundled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► in before there was an official ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► version because it was baked into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► you know the standard iOS version and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► is right there and i'm sure they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► they're always doing stuff like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► it I feel like it's getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► control though and part of it I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► it with this I've noticed it before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► but I noticed it with this week where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► didn't have Wi-Fi but I've noticed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► before and it just seems preposterous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► me I mean like I'm not say I mean we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► know we were finicky and fussy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► vesper I'd looked it was the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► version of Vesper which is still in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► app store is 5.5 megabytes wow yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► that's impressive huge chunk of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► that we embedded a custom font it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► we use the system font it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► been even significantly smaller uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► there's no reason for it and I and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► really wasteful and facebook after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► mentioned that somebody wrote to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► i forgot to even mention this but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► good point is facebook updates their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► all the time so multiply the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► update versus how frequently they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► new versions and it's yeah i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► famously say in their update notes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► yes that's all they say in the update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► right so they do it every two weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► the same with messenger messenger is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► almost as big I feel like in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► know the facebook Messenger product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► then facebook has several other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► that are all sort of roughly in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► situation and then I that an offshoot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► all of that reminds me of this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► several weeks ago Twitter actually added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► something in their settings to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► kill clear the cache um and when I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► that I had like a gigabyte worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► information in there like what on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► they were cashing I guess images and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► gifts or something from like years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► years ago it was a gigabyte worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► data what Twitter 140 characters hey so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► in a world where all but the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► devices were still sold in 16 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► configurations you can have a gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► of all tweets stored there I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► but I feel like it's it's getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► control and I know that in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► years of the app store it was a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► big deal i think the limit was a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► where you could rise like 100 / rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► it was the limit where so had to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► Wi-Fi otherwise you could be on cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► and it was a big deal for developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► stay under 100 because i wanted users to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► be able to update as soon as they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► and if they were on cellular for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► extended strike stretch they wanted them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► to get the updates but it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► they've just blown past that uh but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► a Syria it adds up to serious bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► so like I checked like um I think I pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► fifty dollars a month for an AT&T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► cellular service on my iPad and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► thinking about giving us up when I next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► get an ipad but my strategy when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► bought it's an ipad mini and i got it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► don't two or three years ago probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► like three years ago but that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► personal iPad and my strategy was I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► gonna have verizon service on our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► whole family's iphones and i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► get AT&T on my ipad so that if i'm ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► similar verizon you know I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► vacation or something and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► good verizon service i'll have AT&T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► service and i pay 50 50 bucks for seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► gigabytes a month and i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► I don't know but it's very single digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► gigabytes of bandwidth a month and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► you've only got four gigabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► bandwidth in a month and app updates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► 200 megabytes each all right five app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► updates use up what a quarter of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► bandwidth you could easily chew through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► the four gigabytes and I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► people know that I think people realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► that hey if I'm going to stream video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► that's going to chew up my bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► like if I'm going to watch YouTube for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► an hour to I that's obviously i'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► cellular i'm using my bandwidth if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► watch a major league baseball game in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► the MLB app i know that i'm using oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► know significant chunk of my bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► like updating my apps doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► that should be squandering a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► percentage of my monthly bandwidth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► it is because people have you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► of people have a pretty low single-digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► number of gigabytes a month of bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► to use yeah I mean I the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► situation when I was last moving same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► thing we were using sort of a tethered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► device I think was a mifi unit that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► just gotten and hooked up to our AT&T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► account and not even explicitly but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► just either forgot or I have too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► devices to even remember every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► one of them but I would just leave it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► if I left it on at night we would always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► have to turn it off because if I left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► on they would auto update because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► know it considers it to be Wi-Fi because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► I'm connected to a mifi unit right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► so it would auto update and then I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► look at the bill and we would blow past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► our when I'm like 20 gigs in like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► days there's almost all from a pup days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► we weren't watching video it was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► was crazy mark mark Oh Lauren has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► funny story about that from years ago he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► was at WWDC and he was tethering you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► know what in the era of relatively low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► gigabytes per month and he was tethering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► and he wanted to set up so he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► publish a podcast that they recorded any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► left he left his it went to bed and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► left his macbook open and it downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► and the iTunes downloaded a new episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► of mad men in HD it costs him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► seventy dollars I got like a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► episode of the show you subscribe to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► was like a seventy dollar overage fee or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► something that's because their mac does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► it anyway uh no that's a good topic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► don't know what's going on but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► like apples got to get on top of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► because I don't feel like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► whoo all right there you go get off my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► lawn with your big ass apps there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► reason for these apps to be so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► there's absolutely no reason for it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► reminds me well two things Orion's me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► coz one it reminds me of back when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► know they tried to launch magazines on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► the iPad right and like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► massive because they were just pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► of of pages all right they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► scan in a picture of a wired magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► and that would be the app and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► were each each individual artists owed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► each individual issue was like 700 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► 800 megabytes and it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► ridiculous and so tedious to download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► they seem to have streamline that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► little bit obviously there's less of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► emphasis on it these days but I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► they just down there downloading faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► so i assume that they're smaller the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► other thing is this actually came out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► couple weeks ago I think so Twitter now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► Twitter one of the things further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► launched recently was Twitter light li [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► te it's like the lite version of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► service because of this problem right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► like in in developing countries they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► can't possibly download you know 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► megabyte apps or have your twitter app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► store a gigabyte worth of data and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► they ended up launching it's just on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► web and it's the same thing Facebook did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► back in the day this was several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► ago they launched a Facebook Lite and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► like when they launched these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► like you know everyone seems to praise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► them for it because it's like wow it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► so great it's so fast I remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► wanted I would try to use Facebook Lite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► as my main thing even though it's meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► for sort of third world countries so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► they're all like they have these funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► ways around it because they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► that situation is just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► untenable certainly outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► United States and so they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► whole teams now devoted to launching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► lite versions of their product it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► don't know what the solution is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► something's got to be done because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► it's getting out of hand and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► getting worse I just can't help but feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► too that when i read that technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► analysis of the facebook app bundle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► how many duplicate resources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► frameworks they have like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► project the xcode project to build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► must be like a total like mess of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► spaghetti logic yeah there's just no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► explanation behind that well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► problem also I assume you know unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► sort of like like you with Vesper where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► you know you have a very small team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► workout it you know Facebook presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► has hundreds if not more people working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► on all of these things and so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► say like just you know stream lights of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► it that's like whose job is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► need like an overseer of the code right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► I guess I mean I guess I can see how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► happened but it's still not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► explanation where if the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► working on their a snapchat clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7196">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► working on their a snapchat clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► need they need to depend to build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► they need a copy of the the facebook you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► know framework that the the everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► uses this framework with our core share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► code but the other teams need the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► thing but they can't depend on where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► that is and that's all of a sudden how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► you have three copies of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► framework because right team a needed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► Team B needed it and you know all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► sudden I also really liked his uh his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► note about like you know finding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► strings that were like you will be fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► if you include if you turn this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► writers API that was about you and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► you know my joke back to you about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► dropbox one was like well yeah of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► because they're including the dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► stories into it but though i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► someone else had even funnier when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► thought were just like for the Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► ones where it's like well yeah of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► they're that big I mean they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► shove all of snapchat into the atom so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► what else you're gonna do uh look in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► here anything I do want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► clips a little bit or yeah we can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► don't I don't have to i played with it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► little bit I found it confusing when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► was first using it but i only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► played with it for a few minutes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► sounds like you know you you did to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► down sort of a walkthrough with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► about it what's from me from your view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► what's there what's their mentality I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► know you said something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► obviously they didn't launch a social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► network there it's just meant for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► networks right but um why why do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► it a reason to buy the iphone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► what's what's the rationale I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► rationale is that they see these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► as and I don't think we collectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► have a name for it yet but that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► new medium it's not quite a video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► not quite an animated gift it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► but it's it's got all these ideas where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► you can use text to annotate you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► include multiple clips so it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► one shot of video you can include stills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► it's meant to be viewed on a phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7315">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► you can do it with minimal fuss and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► it's right up their alley to make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► like the social networks are how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► get distributed right instagram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► snapchat and Facebook of course but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► the best possible version of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► exactly in Apple's wheelhouse of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► sort of things that they do well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► still stand by I'm very proud of it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► tweet length review that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► iMovie and keynote had a baby in a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► baby got the best genes from both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► parents like I really do believe that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► have a couple of small complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► but one thing that they do that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► smart and I think it's why the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► bundle size is so small is that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► they have all these like titles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► certainly the music soundtracks they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► not included in the download and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► you start using the app fresh if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► want to get the soundtracks you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► download them okay that's good maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► that's what like Facebook and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► should learn I think it's a great idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► think it's it's so you can start using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► the app with a minimal download and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► downright and so if you are on cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:03 ◼ ► or slow network you can just download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7383">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► the ones you really want my only beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► about it is i do wish there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► download all button like in itunes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► can do that so like if you're using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► iTunes music library you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► music album that's in the cloud and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:19 ◼ ► you just want one song you can download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7399">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► it but if you want to download the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► album you can download the whole album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► without clicking 11 times to download I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► feel like clips should have that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► soundtrack why do you think though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► they launched it when they did why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► you know make it a feature of iOS 11 why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► do it as a fully standalone thing ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► that's a good question i guess because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► it's ready and they feel like why not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► add my guess and that you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► that they you know they see this as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► exploding form you know these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► stories based meme style many videos um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► you know one of the other things too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:01 ◼ ► that I think is central to it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7441">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► being silent is part of you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► include sound you can include including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► those music soundtracks but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► that a lot of people are going to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► to them in silence right is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► idea and it's part of why they spent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► much effort on this annotated text that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► gets the text as you as you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► I feel like that they see this as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► my guess is that they see this our art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► form as exploding and that it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► sense to get it out sooner rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► later because iOS 11 isn't going to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► until September yeah they're on schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► so it's right so if they're wrong go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► in early April and I think it is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► the app is certainly certainly in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► point o shape it's very good one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► of shape I feel like they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► wait you know maybe maybe do less as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► monolithic OS updates and keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► more as individual app update do you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7495">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► anything into the notion of this being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► sort of a toe dip into augmented reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► because obviously we see that we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► both Microsoft Google and a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► others sort of launched on these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► Microsoft just launched one thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► like sprinkles the other day which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► you know effectively using some of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► machine learning technology to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► ultra images google just launched that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► thing where you can doodle and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► look up it you know try to match it to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► picture so all of these guys are clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► doing that as both experimentation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► also to sort of train data right to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► better at that Dubai Apple trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► that a little anything with a little for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► augmented reality have to call the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► recognition as augmented reality right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► mean it maybe it's not augmenting it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:43 ◼ ► it certainly is it's it's it's reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7543">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► aware is that a better way to say it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► know where it shouldn't clip and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► three of your friends in it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► facial recognition is able to identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► them and the fact that when you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► share it there the first three people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► that suggests sharing it too it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7557">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► quite augmented reality in the sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► okay here's goggles that show you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:05 ◼ ► real world and overlay write-ins but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7565">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► is machine learning for sure is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► is the device in your hand is making is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► aware of the real world it is saying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► know right i'm shooting that's a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► of your son you know i know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► know it I almost feel like augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► reality is is a term that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► pan out I feel like it's more just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► yeah and I think like I I don't disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► with that because I do think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► sort of everyone assumed augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► reality would be sort of like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:49 ◼ ► magic leap videos are right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7609">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► like you're looking out and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► glasses on or something and then a whale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► jumps out of the rent of street but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► we're seeing is like the mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► usage at least right now of course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► what you would call quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:02 ◼ ► augmented reality is more long lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7622">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► snapchat filters and Pokemon go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► where they're just different there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► there's nuance to how they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► not quite not quite like that Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► goes a little bit more like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► snapchats more just what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► talking about sort of you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► able to to recognize a face and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► manipulation of that and if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► about it with a little bit of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► you could like why can't your iPhone be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:35 ◼ ► as aware of where it is as as you are it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7655">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► there's I think it's I don't think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► very far from this at all and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► this in the sense of beyond GPS like GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► is certainly one aspect of knowing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► it is but like when I'm walking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► Broad Street in Philadelphia like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► had me blindfolded until the moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7677">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► then you open my eyes it's only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► take me an instant or two to realize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► know where I am on Broad Street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► Philadelphia because I'm very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► with it well if I have my phone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► hand why can't the phone use the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► very briefly and just take a quick look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► a qui quick peek and instantly realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► oh I know exactly where i am amit i'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► broad and spruce and Philadelphia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► because I recognize this instantly a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► that a human can and in Maryland man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► I talked about this recently on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:28 ◼ ► but and we can't go in-depth on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7708">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► voice assistance but like things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► the I mean it's very good in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► ways but why can't devices like said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7717">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► recognize every voice in the family it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:41 ◼ ► seems to me like we're very going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7721">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► very close to that because a human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► certainly could if we had a human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► in our kitchen the human being would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► whether it was me or my wife or my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:53 ◼ ► who is asking for the weather and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7733">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► doesn't matter if the question is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► the weather like it doesn't matter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7738">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► it is but if it's what's on my agenda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► they should certainly not oh yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► will that will absolutely i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► that happens in short all right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► start thinking about these things and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► think about like oh how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► program something how would you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► about making a computer that does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► and you think about what our ears can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► and it's like when you're familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► your without your house or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► not just that you know who's talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► you but you can basically tell where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► they're talking to you from like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► you're yeah all these upstairs from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► and they're yelling mg you know can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:28 ◼ ► blah blah blah you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7768">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► they're upstairs you can hear it your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► ears pick up that location and like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► can't these devices know that like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► context-aware and rice and yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► but look at like Apple still does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► thing right where you have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► train quote-unquote Siri when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► right you have to say like hasty and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► it'll only illuminate with your voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► that's still right right yeah well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► supposedly but it's it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► very accurate in my opinion in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► locking people out like in fact I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► my wife just used ready on my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► I'm not sure if she pressed the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:06 ◼ ► or not though and if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7806">TS</a>]
02:10:08 ◼ ► that's sort of weird that they even make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7808">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► you do that if it's just not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► cuz obviously like um you don't sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:14 ◼ ► voice train um and it and i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7814">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► the google one either right now um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► just triggered love to beep it uh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► it's so hard to talk about these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► on a podcast you saw that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:32 ◼ ► just like that news broke I didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7832">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► the full story about it but I saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► somewhat Burger King's trying to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► commercial that triggers the Google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► oh really I did not see that and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► i saw that google is already going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► block that because that's a whole can of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► worms obviously that's a bad idea yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► but anyway I feel like there's a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► go in that direction I'd still feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7857">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► one of the main areas where Apple's it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► think it's just that they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► have it ready but the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► share the facial recognition data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:06 ◼ ► between your different devices is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7866">TS</a>]
02:11:08 ◼ ► hole and I think that they will and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7868">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► think that their whole explanation last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► year that it was about privacy was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:14 ◼ ► right it wasn't that it wasn't like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7874">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► believe so much in privacy that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► not going to share this between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:20 ◼ ► devices I think that the reading between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7880">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► the lines the answer is we believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► privacy and we don't have a private way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► to share it between our devices yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:28 ◼ ► so we're not going to do it we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7888">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► going to do it in a way that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:31 ◼ ► satisfied with the privacy until we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7891">TS</a>]
02:11:33 ◼ ► it ready but I think it's inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7893">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► that they will write and they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► bunch I can't remember the exact name or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► differential that's a ver i'm sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► personal information differential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:48 ◼ ► anonymized but like a real pro I private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7908">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► you know like they're they do share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:54 ◼ ► stuff between our devices like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7914">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► same way that you can get end-to-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► encrypted I messages on multiple devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7917">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► it's not like they don't believe in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► non duplicating private information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► between your devices it's just the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► for whatever reason the photo face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► stuff wasn't it wasn't technically ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► that's my belief it's not that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► never not going to do it but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:15 ◼ ► something like cliff delivery yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7935">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► we'll see I mean my guess is that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► stance you know just maybe doesn't fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► change over time because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► they've obviously they've taken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:28 ◼ ► privacy stance like you mentioned but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7948">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► like the implications of that were that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► they were going to try to do as much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► the device as possible and i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► know that's fine and in good and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:36 ◼ ► see what they could do with that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7956">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► would imagine that if they really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► to get in the game for all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► things that we're talking about in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► way they are going to have to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► doing a lot in the cloud and so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:47 ◼ ► yeah it becomes like a question of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7967">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► they do it whether it's a differential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:51 ◼ ► privacy or if they're they come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7971">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► other new technologies to so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7974">TS</a>]
02:12:56 ◼ ► feel ok with the privacy sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7976">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► trade-offs but there's always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7978">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► be trade-offs all right we've gone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► pretty long do you want to spend five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:03 ◼ ► minutes on netflix and amazon or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7983">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► want to do you want to wrap it up um the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► problem is i think that that's just such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► a yeah such a law say we save it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► next time you're on the show okay let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► say as I feel like I feel like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► doing it quick wouldn't do it justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► I've and both of them are so active in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► this regard that there's going to be new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► stuff to talk about soon but anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► with you that I feel like they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► super fascinating yes what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:29 ◼ ► favorite Netflix show um we really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8009">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► the Queen I didn't see the UH you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► see it it's good it was the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► the most expensive one I think it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► think they said it's more expensive game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► of thrones to me uh yeah because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► obviously a full period a nice and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► so it's supposedly the most expensive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► don't know if the most expensive show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► ever but it's you know ahead of Game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8032">TS</a>]
02:13:54 ◼ ► Thrones so it's got to be up there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8034">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► that was really well done on amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8036">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► right now we're watching the man in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► high castle which I like it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:04 ◼ ► slow to get in Julie I'm starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8044">TS</a>]
02:14:05 ◼ ► really like no I almost gave up on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► almost came up yeah same same my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:09 ◼ ► favorite thing that either them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8049">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► doing is Netflix is incredible all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:15 ◼ ► focus on comedy specials um yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8055">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► Dave Chappelle ones are two of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:20 ◼ ► comedy specials I've seen in memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8060">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► they've released them both at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► time they were both amazing and it's a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:31 ◼ ► like comedy specials in general but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8071">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► wife does too and it's so it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► perfect sweet spot of oh my god every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► single time one of these comes out we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:37 ◼ ► got something we're both looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8077">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► to watching together and they just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► coming out its Dave Chappelle and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► Amy Schumer and now I just saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► there's a Louis CK one it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:48 ◼ ► they're coming out with with them faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8088">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► than we can watch which is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► so I'm surprised it like because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:55 ◼ ► this is like what HBO used to do back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8095">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► the day right HBO would have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8097">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► comedy specials I guess in the 90s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► I'm sort of surprised because it is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► a relatively you know cheap versus you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► know doing a full production of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► television show or something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► slightly Avenue to go down they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► give the money to the comedian you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► like 20 million dollars i think chappal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:17 ◼ ► got 20 million I forget something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8117">TS</a>]
02:15:20 ◼ ► that but it's you know I know that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8120">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► Seinfeld god I think it's a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► million for his show you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:25 ◼ ► comedians and uh getting coffee with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8125">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► comedians or whatever in car was moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► moving over to Netflix and so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► yeah bit up the rights yeah oh man oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► man that's brilliant it's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:39 ◼ ► brilliant because I feel like he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8139">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► be doing the same thing whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► still alleged or not so he's getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:45 ◼ ► a million dollars too oh yeah I maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8145">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► says that he I mean because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► unlike crackle or whatever and like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► was just like yeah it just had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► crazy idea and someone said we'll put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► the cost okay cool right uh it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► here's the thing again it we won't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► too deep on it but I remember to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► growing I ate all the great comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► specials for on HBO and I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► think about it but I assumed it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:10 ◼ ► interruptions would wreck it you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8170">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► interrupt a brother the whole point of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► great stand-up routine is that it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► builds continuously and there's never a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► good point for commercial break and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► almost all of them have material that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► would be inappropriate for major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► networks and so of course HBO is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► natural home because they can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► r-rated content up and they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► commercial breaks and so that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► on HBO what never occurred to me until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► netflix has suddenly gotten become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► dominant force in stand-up comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► specials is that they're evergreen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► they can show like the Dave Chappelle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► 2017 comedy special is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► people were going to watch five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► years from now like six seven years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8212">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► now some kid is going to all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8214">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► discover Dave Chappelle and the dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8216">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► chappelle comedy specials that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► exclusive to netflix he's you know good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► they're gonna watch him back to back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:03 ◼ ► back to back right it's everyone kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8223">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► it it's right exactly it's the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► type of content for what Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► Amazon are doing because like in the HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► days like we were talking about there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► was no concept of on-demand you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► watch it when it was gone now we live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► an on-demand world and you need if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► differentiation of contents that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► it's it's hard to be but I can see now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► how in hindsight that was part of HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► strategy back in the day is that HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► could show their eddie murphy comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► special a year later they could just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► her and they could put it on at five in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► the morning and somebody would be up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:37 ◼ ► be like Oh Eddie Murphy I'll watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8257">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► you know that it would fill up space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:42 ◼ ► you know that it was as close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8262">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► Evergreen as you could get for exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:46 ◼ ► content yeah uh the one things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8266">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► aren't doing that well it seems like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► uh maybe a better example but like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► the talk shows that have moved over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► the actual like sort of late-night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8277">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► things like there was a Chelsea Chelsea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8278">TS</a>]
02:17:59 ◼ ► Handler right which I don't think was do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8279">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► I don't even know so on it might be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► I don't think that's like a weird format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► for netflix all right do you agree like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:09 ◼ ► it's uh yeah I've I watched it a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8289">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► times and I as a talk show of fishy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► annatto uh I I do I liked it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► thought you know and and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:19 ◼ ► whole you know meta discussion for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8299">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► now of you know how come there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► any women with stood with late-night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:26 ◼ ► comedy shows you know and even in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8306">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► era when Jay Leno and Letterman were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► retiring and it was time for turn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► the show still went to two guys right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► and so I was interested in chelsea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► handler show and i liked it i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► quite a few episodes but never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► grooved on me and I don't know why and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► there is something to a talk show late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► night talk show where it feels like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► supposed to be on at a certain time even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► if i write you there's a ritual to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► yes totally even if i watch it on tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► which I usually did and the it it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8333">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► like this was the show from Tuesday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8337">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► it was on at eleven-thirty and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► eleven-thirty and the netflix style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► here it is and you can watch it whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► it somehow it doesn't seem right but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► the other hand i definitely chelsea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► handler show it definitely felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► late-night talk show it didn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► like Ellen DeGeneres's show which very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► clearly is a daytime talk show and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► know we could spend it you could teach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:21 ◼ ► whole class on what are this lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8361">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► and for those differences yeah but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► can tell you know I don't know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:28 ◼ ► know it I don't know how to explain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8368">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► but I know it when I see it there's late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► night shows and daytime talk shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:33 ◼ ► Chelsea Handler's was a late night talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8373">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► show and that reminds me of I rode with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► this a while ago I guess when stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► things Tucson so you know the Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► show I love stranger things is that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8383">TS</a>]
02:19:45 ◼ ► great but I kept thinking to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8385">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► while we're watching it like yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► cool that we can binge watch it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:51 ◼ ► almost feels like the type of show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8391">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► it would have been better suited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:56 ◼ ► sort of a weekly cadence type thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8396">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► there's like you know release watches uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:01 ◼ ► you know sort of like what we do yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8401">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► what people do for Game of Thrones now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► yeah especially with the cliffhanger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► endings you know it did yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:08 ◼ ► know right goofy I i if there's anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8408">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► I think Netflix should rethink is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► think it's they should they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► rethink their we're just going to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► the whole season at once for all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► shows I don't think that they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► that I think that for some shows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:19 ◼ ► works and for some shows it right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8419">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► actually robbing us of some fun yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:24 ◼ ► i think there's stance on the matter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8424">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► we have this very this very regimented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► worldview of that and this is we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:31 ◼ ► people to know that all of our content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8431">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► is always going to be available when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► they sign up but i do that i would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► that over time they do get more nuanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► with that and they do have some shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► that launch like that and some that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► don't and they're starting to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► into movies now and there's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► all this sort of back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► theater owners like some of them want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► make sure that the movie is still screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► in a theater for Oscar contention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:52 ◼ ► whatnot and amazon has been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8452">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► amenable to that i guess and netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:56 ◼ ► still has been very strict and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8456">TS</a>]
02:20:58 ◼ ► nope has to go on netflix the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8458">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► moment that sort of it they'd launches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► and i would imagine that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► sort of give and take a little bit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► some of those things so much for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► spending five minutes talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:08 ◼ ► netflix and yeah i would say this I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8468">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► think Game of Thrones I'd enjoy it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► enjoy it very much I look forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:15 ◼ ► coming back I watch it every week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8475">TS</a>]
02:21:18 ◼ ► would rank it as well the one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8478">TS</a>]
02:21:21 ◼ ► favorite shows of all time is it top 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8481">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► I don't know it's close it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:25 ◼ ► certainly in the top 20 but it may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8485">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► be in the top 10 i'm not a huge superfan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► but i would say this i think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► best show ever in the history of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:35 ◼ ► modern super shows at at making that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8495">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► weekly cliffhanger add to the show yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► like I feel like it's the best there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:46 ◼ ► bunch of shows that I've enjoyed more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8506">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► but game of thrones and and i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► partly just that they're very self aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:53 ◼ ► of their we're on sunday night and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8513">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► going to make you talk about us monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8516">TS</a>]
02:21:58 ◼ ► and combined with the fact that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8518">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► so right like a show like mad so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► not repetition over like an admin which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:08 ◼ ► I would possibly argue as my all-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8528">TS</a>]
02:22:10 ◼ ► favorite show it's certainly a my top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8530">TS</a>]
02:22:12 ◼ ► two or three uh it had a so much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8532">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► number of characters and had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:18 ◼ ► character who's clearly the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8538">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► of the story that it was it have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:23 ◼ ► artificial to have at cliffhanger every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8543">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► week it's right wasn't it some weeks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:28 ◼ ► was you know most weeks more weeks often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8548">TS</a>]
02:22:30 ◼ ► than not it didn't leave you dying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8550">TS</a>]
02:22:33 ◼ ► the next episode and that was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8553">TS</a>]
02:22:34 ◼ ► way the show is written and it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8554">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► natural to it but Game of Thrones is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:38 ◼ ► really really good at that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8558">TS</a>]
02:22:40 ◼ ► Game of Thrones me that was dumped 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8560">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► episodes at once would be all it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:43 ◼ ► lose so much yes totally and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8563">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► the notion used to be that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:48 ◼ ► save sort of the cliffhanger for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8568">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► season end because it's just so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:53 ◼ ► do them week after week and Game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8573">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► Thrones pulls it off better I can't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:57 ◼ ► breaking bad was pretty good about it uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8577">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► you know then there's a handful of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:01 ◼ ► shows that I think we're good at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8581">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► um but yeah it's pretty incredible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► the fact that they've they do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► they had to translate it from right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► mean like so it's not like the books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► obviously they follow them to certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► extent but the cliffhanger thing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► a page turn away so it's different well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► when I one of the books I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:22 ◼ ► having that feeling with was when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8602">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► first read the lord of the rings because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► i remember with the lord of the rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:26 ◼ ► where the chapters would you'd leave Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8606">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► yeah one location yeah dude photo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► Sam and go back to somebody and you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► like oh my god why we going back to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:36 ◼ ► I want to find out what happened Frodo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8616">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► and Sam jeez that's terrible and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► all of a sudden that three pages later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► you're all forget about Frodo and Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:42 ◼ ► you're with these other guys right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8622">TS</a>]
02:23:44 ◼ ► you get to the end it is what the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8624">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► of thrones books to us well focus on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► individual yeah storyline and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:50 ◼ ► I love those books you know duh who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8630">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► doesn't love those books but part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:55 ◼ ► brilliance of the structure was the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8635">TS</a>]
02:23:56 ◼ ► that every single chapter I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8636">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► desperate to keep going with who I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:00 ◼ ► with and was very upset to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8640">TS</a>]
02:24:02 ◼ ► these other characters but then three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8642">TS</a>]
02:24:04 ◼ ► pages later I'm all totally into them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8644">TS</a>]
02:24:05 ◼ ► and I feel like that right I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8645">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► Game of Thrones has that in TV I I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:12 ◼ ► believe I I know they're going to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8652">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► it off but I really can't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:16 ◼ ► finishing the whole series before even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8656">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► the next book you know there's still two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:20 ◼ ► more books to come and I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8660">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► gonna finish series before they even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:24 ◼ ► next book comes and it's just incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8664">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► like you would have thought like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:30 ◼ ► would have been the ultimate logistical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8670">TS</a>]
02:24:32 ◼ ► nightmare when you're sort of pitching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8672">TS</a>]
02:24:34 ◼ ► the show right like what's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8674">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► that could happen well we could not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► sort of know what the ending is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:40 ◼ ► be because the other books haven't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8680">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► out yet oh come on that's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:43 ◼ ► decade away of course we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8683">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► those and nope we're not gonna have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:48 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense to me I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8688">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► read the books though so I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:51 ◼ ► really care it's um it's just insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8691">TS</a>]
02:24:55 ◼ ► impressive of the showrunners of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8695">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► show they're able to sort of land the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8697">TS</a>]
02:24:59 ◼ ► ship without having the structure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8699">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► would think to do so yeah I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:03 ◼ ► that's going to really hurt the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8703">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► wonder how much they depend on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:06 ◼ ► don't know I it's it's do it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8706">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► unprecedented to know what would what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► will end up happening with that like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:15 ◼ ► they because they say the show's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8715">TS</a>]
02:25:17 ◼ ► going to so this coming season which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8717">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► think starts in july is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► slightly truncated right it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► be I think seven six or seven episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:24 ◼ ► not ten and then they're gonna split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8724">TS</a>]
02:25:26 ◼ ► that into the next season which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8726">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► also be a truncated season and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► the end really but do that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► the word is right now I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:35 ◼ ► they're going to change that at all do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8735">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► they end up doing something like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► know ending it with it with a movie in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:41 ◼ ► few years is something like that but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8741">TS</a>]
02:25:44 ◼ ► of right now I think the plan is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8744">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► two more seasons two more shortened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:47 ◼ ► season no I don't know how they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8747">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► to do it I look forward to it then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► right mg thank you so much for your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► it's always good to have you on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8753">TS</a>]
02:25:54 ◼ ► yes thank you I will see you soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8754">TS</a>]
02:25:58 ◼ ► everybody can catch you on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8758">TS</a>]
02:26:00 ◼ ► what's your twitter handle Adam jisuk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8760">TS</a>]
02:26:03 ◼ ► that mg Siegler and you're the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8763">TS</a>]
02:26:07 ◼ ► where they can catch the writing isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8767">TS</a>]
02:26:09 ◼ ► all your writing or midgets most your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:10 ◼ ► writing most of it is 500 ish words 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8770">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► 500 ish 500s com yes and good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:20 ◼ ► still still good columns coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8780">TS</a>]
02:26:21 ◼ ► you Thanks when I would I get a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ie_R7kxVo/8781">TS</a>]