5: Slippery Little Pill


00:00:02   this is hypercritical [TS]

00:00:04   a weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [TS]

00:00:06   what is wrong in the world of Apple and [TS]

00:00:09   related technologies businesses nothing [TS]

00:00:12   is so perfect that it can't be [TS]

00:00:14   complained about and scrutinized and [TS]

00:00:16   criticized by none other than John [TS]

00:00:19   siracusa whom you may know from his work [TS]

00:00:21   at ARS technica or by Mead and Benjamin [TS]

00:00:23   and today this is episode number 5 [TS]

00:00:26   what's our topic today John you pick two [TS]

00:00:30   topics this time we'll I'd me pick so [TS]

00:00:32   you're trying to push the onus on to me [TS]

00:00:35   a bit but no problem with that I can [TS]

00:00:37   narrow down from two I liked both topics [TS]

00:00:39   so much that I got I found myself [TS]

00:00:41   getting kind of giddy about talking [TS]

00:00:43   about both of them either of them and I [TS]

00:00:45   didn't know which one you wanted more so [TS]

00:00:47   I picked the other one which one did you [TS]

00:00:50   think I think you want the UI [TS]

00:00:53   consistency one but I that's not my [TS]

00:00:55   favorite and I'm not sure how much I [TS]

00:00:57   have to say on it right now so I picked [TS]

00:00:58   the other one and what was the other one [TS]

00:01:00   the other one was Apple's Hardware blind [TS]

00:01:02   spots ah okay I act to be honest I [TS]

00:01:05   really don't know that I had a favorite [TS]

00:01:06   either way but I'm thrilled to talk [TS]

00:01:09   about that and so what does that mean [TS]

00:01:10   Hardware blind spots uh are we skipping [TS]

00:01:14   the follow-up is this what you're saying [TS]

00:01:15   no oh yeah we got to do our follow-up [TS]

00:01:17   I'm sorry no I'm not saying that let's [TS]

00:01:19   follow alright like I try to rush [TS]

00:01:20   through follow-up there is backup [TS]

00:01:23   related follow-up here I could push it [TS]

00:01:25   off for another show if you want or I [TS]

00:01:27   could just go through the items in order [TS]

00:01:28   no let's let's do all the follow-up [TS]

00:01:31   we'll do it all it would all we'll see [TS]

00:01:33   how that goes all right so uh I think [TS]

00:01:36   was it last week or two weeks ago that [TS]

00:01:38   we talked about Lian [TS]

00:01:39   I thought lion was last week yeah [TS]

00:01:43   probably was so there's a little follow [TS]

00:01:44   up on that we were discussing whether [TS]

00:01:47   spaces that was two weeks ago do weeks [TS]

00:01:49   ago episode basis would be in number [TS]

00:01:51   three the mouse is not a finger right [TS]

00:01:53   yeah and we said we talked about in last [TS]

00:01:57   show how they didn't show spaces in the [TS]

00:01:59   demo but that doesn't mean it's not [TS]

00:02:00   necessarily there well a couple of [TS]

00:02:03   people send me links to Apple's actual [TS]

00:02:05   web site where they have text on their [TS]

00:02:07   lion web page that says you know spaces [TS]

00:02:10   is they're basically right they're [TS]

00:02:12   saying the Mission Control thing you [TS]

00:02:13   know thumb [TS]

00:02:13   nails of your full screen apps [TS]

00:02:14   dashboards and even other spaces [TS]

00:02:16   arranged in the unified view so that's [TS]

00:02:18   pretty much as explicit as you can get [TS]

00:02:20   even though they've never shown it and [TS]

00:02:21   even though we have no idea how it works [TS]

00:02:22   or what it looks like the text on their [TS]

00:02:24   page says that s spaces not that things [TS]

00:02:26   can't change because you know there have [TS]

00:02:28   been many things written on my apples [TS]

00:02:30   website about operating systems yet to [TS]

00:02:31   be released that have turned out not to [TS]

00:02:34   be true when the operating system was [TS]

00:02:36   released I think that even a whole page [TS]

00:02:38   where they were talking about ZFS do you [TS]

00:02:39   remember that yeah yeah that was [TS]

00:02:41   surprising yeah I would have loved to [TS]

00:02:43   have that [TS]

00:02:43   there have been a few other ones I've [TS]

00:02:45   forgotten them now but all sorts of [TS]

00:02:46   things have been on their page when [TS]

00:02:48   they've during the previews you know and [TS]

00:02:50   then eventually they just stopped [TS]

00:02:52   talking about it and they released the [TS]

00:02:54   actual operating system those features [TS]

00:02:55   aren't there and everyone forgets [TS]

00:02:56   including me um so I just wanted to [TS]

00:02:59   clear that up exactly that's not some [TS]

00:03:01   pretty good evidence um some people were [TS]

00:03:03   asking me about my offhanded comment [TS]

00:03:07   about audio quality last time I think I [TS]

00:03:09   was talking about the limits of human [TS]

00:03:10   perception and how when technology [TS]

00:03:12   catches up to them yeah it's this [TS]

00:03:14   innovation kind of stops in that area [TS]

00:03:17   and I mentioned that you don't 256 [TS]

00:03:20   kilobit a C's or mp3s is pretty much [TS]

00:03:23   good enough for most people but but [TS]

00:03:26   audio files find it depressing and a lot [TS]

00:03:28   of people wanted out well you know can [TS]

00:03:31   you even tell the difference if we if we [TS]

00:03:32   did a double-blind test view listening [TS]

00:03:34   to whatever audio source you chose and [TS]

00:03:37   and a an mp3 would you be able to tell [TS]

00:03:39   and the answer is I probably wouldn't be [TS]

00:03:41   able to I don't have a golden ear I'm [TS]

00:03:43   not really an audiophile it's really [TS]

00:03:46   just a question of general principles I [TS]

00:03:48   don't know if I'm the only person who [TS]

00:03:51   feels this way but I like that audio [TS]

00:03:54   quality was progressing and that felt [TS]

00:03:56   like it's not like progress to me it [TS]

00:03:57   felt like audio quality gets better [TS]

00:03:59   during my life when I'm a kid there's [TS]

00:04:00   vinyl and there's cassettes and briefly [TS]

00:04:03   eight tracks and you know we get CDs [TS]

00:04:06   where that they'd be hard 22 kilohertz [TS]

00:04:07   cutoff is a problem for some people then [TS]

00:04:09   they started massively compressing music [TS]

00:04:11   but in general it's been a lumpy upward [TS]

00:04:14   slope in audio quality and then what was [TS]

00:04:17   it like just before the donut the [TS]

00:04:18   Internet they had super audio CD and DVD [TS]

00:04:20   audio duking it out for the next [TS]

00:04:21   generation high resolution format yeah [TS]

00:04:24   but then the internet came and Napster [TS]

00:04:27   an mp3 [TS]

00:04:27   and forget about super audio CD and DVD [TS]

00:04:31   audio these things still exist and you [TS]

00:04:32   can buy them but they're obviously way [TS]

00:04:35   way outside the mainstream and so we [TS]

00:04:37   kind of took we derailed we said well [TS]

00:04:39   audio quality is pretty much good enough [TS]

00:04:41   let's add more channels now upslope what [TS]

00:04:43   is it 7.1 or whatever for surround sound [TS]

00:04:45   but other than that the actual audio [TS]

00:04:48   quality itself is good enough and I [TS]

00:04:50   don't think that's the case I think [TS]

00:04:51   there's still Headroom and it bothers me [TS]

00:04:54   because I we know we have the technology [TS]

00:04:56   for better audio right it's not like we [TS]

00:04:57   don't have the tech for this we even [TS]

00:04:59   have a bunch of standards like super [TS]

00:05:01   audio CD came out DVD audio came out it [TS]

00:05:03   exists you can buy them not that they're [TS]

00:05:06   great formats or anything around [TS]

00:05:07   particularly recommending them but it [TS]

00:05:08   was the next step in the journey but [TS]

00:05:11   we've just decided to skip them entirely [TS]

00:05:13   we're not interested in them and the [TS]

00:05:15   thing that bothers me about them from a [TS]

00:05:16   practical perspective is that even if [TS]

00:05:19   you can't tell the difference compress [TS]

00:05:21   lossy audio limits what you can do with [TS]

00:05:24   it like say you want to make a video and [TS]

00:05:26   cut together pieces from a bunch of [TS]

00:05:27   different songs the best copy of the [TS]

00:05:29   songs you have is a lossy compressed [TS]

00:05:31   audio file that you got from iTunes or [TS]

00:05:33   something when you chop up pieces of [TS]

00:05:35   that song and put it together as a [TS]

00:05:37   soundtrack and then recompress it as you [TS]

00:05:39   know AAC or whatever for your video then [TS]

00:05:42   you start can start to tell the [TS]

00:05:43   difference you don't need to be an [TS]

00:05:44   audiophile to see to hear the difference [TS]

00:05:46   on a doubly compressed songwriting right [TS]

00:05:48   and triply compress it just gets worse [TS]

00:05:50   it and it bothers me that music prices [TS]

00:05:53   have stayed about the same [TS]

00:05:54   are you know depending on how you buy [TS]

00:05:56   your things like is this cheaper if you [TS]

00:05:57   buy an individual track instead of an [TS]

00:05:59   entire album but the quality has [TS]

00:06:01   basically gone down CDs have better [TS]

00:06:03   audio quality than these lossy [TS]

00:06:05   compressed the you know AAC files that [TS]

00:06:07   you can buy so that's why I still buy [TS]

00:06:08   CDs and faxes I buy them I'm like I'm [TS]

00:06:10   getting a physical backup for free [TS]

00:06:12   basically and I'm getting a higher [TS]

00:06:13   quality product so why in the world [TS]

00:06:15   would I ever pay for a lossy compressed [TS]

00:06:18   file from iTunes and this is you know [TS]

00:06:19   even with DRM being gone and everything [TS]

00:06:21   so everything else being equal is DRM [TS]

00:06:23   forget it no way but CDs through a [TS]

00:06:27   historical accident have no DRM and they [TS]

00:06:29   happen to be better quality than what [TS]

00:06:30   everyone else is selling so that's what [TS]

00:06:32   I still buy I'm sure they'll go away [TS]

00:06:34   eventually but I really hope kind of [TS]

00:06:36   like the light bulb right eventually [TS]

00:06:37   they'll become yeah all the replaced [TS]

00:06:39   with LEDs [TS]

00:06:41   but I really hope this industry gets [TS]

00:06:43   back on that train and starts doing the [TS]

00:06:45   you know saying well maybe got one or [TS]

00:06:47   two more standards in us or maybe let's [TS]

00:06:49   let's go let's stop with the compression [TS]

00:06:52   because a certain point network [TS]

00:06:53   bandwidth is so massive that the [TS]

00:06:54   compression is pointless anyway we'll [TS]

00:06:56   just give you uncompressed or we'll go [TS]

00:06:58   for a higher bitrate or higher [TS]

00:06:59   resolution and still compress it but it [TS]

00:07:01   but it'll I don't know that's like we [TS]

00:07:07   probably do a whole show on my insanity [TS]

00:07:08   in that regard we should really to get a [TS]

00:07:10   counterpoint of somewhat saying you're [TS]

00:07:11   not to be you just said you can't hear [TS]

00:07:12   the difference what do you care what's [TS]

00:07:14   right what do you care if the difference [TS]

00:07:16   size is more important that we needed [TS]

00:07:18   the mp3 revolution digital downloads are [TS]

00:07:20   good and everything I'm just sad that [TS]

00:07:21   progress has seemingly been derailed and [TS]

00:07:24   I hope we get back on that train okay [TS]

00:07:27   that one took a little too long no it's [TS]

00:07:29   alright um back up related someone [TS]

00:07:33   throughout this you this utility sent me [TS]

00:07:36   an email about it after the right after [TS]

00:07:37   the first backup so I never got to talk [TS]

00:07:39   about it smart utility all caps smart [TS]

00:07:42   I think smart I forget what it stands [TS]

00:07:44   for self monitoring analysis reporting [TS]

00:07:48   something or other [TS]

00:07:49   anyway smart is a standard that lets the [TS]

00:07:52   hard drive mechanism talk to your [TS]

00:07:53   computer and so you can query the hard [TS]

00:07:55   drive mechanism and ask it questions [TS]

00:07:56   about its health and there are a couple [TS]

00:07:58   little things like menu bar widgets they [TS]

00:08:00   have a little hard drive icon that just [TS]

00:08:01   changes green when all your hard drives [TS]

00:08:03   are ok and it changes red when they're [TS]

00:08:05   bad smart is just basically a [TS]

00:08:06   standardized way as far as I can tell a [TS]

00:08:08   standardized way for the hard drive to [TS]

00:08:09   tell you when it's really not working so [TS]

00:08:11   it stands by the way for self-monitoring [TS]

00:08:13   analysis and reporting technology I was [TS]

00:08:16   close yeah all right [TS]

00:08:19   it's a way to know that there's [TS]

00:08:22   something wrong with your disk [TS]

00:08:23   officially and not just find out like [TS]

00:08:25   when your i/o start to fail and your [TS]

00:08:26   operating system or something and smart [TS]

00:08:29   utility is a single app that shows all [TS]

00:08:33   the smart information in this big [TS]

00:08:35   display now it's a little bit creepy in [TS]

00:08:37   that the app has some heuristics built [TS]

00:08:39   into it where it decides whether your [TS]

00:08:41   hard drive is quote unquote failing [TS]

00:08:43   which is a strange you know it's in [TS]

00:08:46   terms of the tints it's strange failing [TS]

00:08:48   because I mean it's failing now it's not [TS]

00:08:50   failed failed smart will tell you you [TS]

00:08:52   know XYZ is broken that is [TS]

00:08:54   all right failing I don't really know [TS]

00:08:58   what that means [TS]

00:08:59   so it's something just made up from this [TS]

00:09:01   application where it says if I see [TS]

00:09:03   arrows XY and Z even though everything [TS]

00:09:05   is still currently working directly I've [TS]

00:09:07   decided that if I see these errors it [TS]

00:09:08   probably means that there'll be some [TS]

00:09:10   other unrecoverable error in the future [TS]

00:09:11   therefore I'll tell your drive is [TS]

00:09:12   failing and I mentioned that biggest [TS]

00:09:14   when I ran it on my drives is that one [TS]

00:09:15   of my drives is quote unquote failing [TS]

00:09:17   but you go into the help and you google [TS]

00:09:19   around and it becomes clear that the [TS]

00:09:22   notion of failing is really a sort of a [TS]

00:09:24   judgement call it may mean that your [TS]

00:09:25   hard drive is about to go bad but [TS]

00:09:27   doesn't mean that your hard drive is [TS]

00:09:28   currently bad and the thing that it said [TS]

00:09:30   about my hard drive is that I had bad [TS]

00:09:31   sectors that had been remapped but [TS]

00:09:33   that's part of what hard drives do they [TS]

00:09:35   remap bad right it's in other words it's [TS]

00:09:37   not necessarily really going bad but [TS]

00:09:39   it's saying this could be an indication [TS]

00:09:41   that there's a problem yeah like there [TS]

00:09:43   have been bad sectors that have been [TS]

00:09:44   remapped on your drive does that mean [TS]

00:09:46   that it's slowly dying or does that mean [TS]

00:09:48   just it came out of manufacturing which [TS]

00:09:49   the bad sectors and mechanism remap them [TS]

00:09:51   and then that's it so it has another [TS]

00:09:53   mode where it will it will only complain [TS]

00:09:55   to you if the number of bad sectors [TS]

00:09:57   increases so like for instance if you [TS]

00:09:59   get the hard drive out of the box and it [TS]

00:10:01   says 25 bad sectors and use this hard [TS]

00:10:04   drive for five years and at the end of [TS]

00:10:05   the five years it still says 25 bad [TS]

00:10:07   sectors ah I don't know yeah and as some [TS]

00:10:11   people in the chat room are saying and [TS]

00:10:12   as the the help guide and smart utility [TS]

00:10:14   itself says the statistics that Google [TS]

00:10:16   and other big companies that run big [TS]

00:10:19   data centres have done have shown that [TS]

00:10:22   if there are any sort of errors like [TS]

00:10:23   this even if everything is working fine [TS]

00:10:25   now it's a very good indication that [TS]

00:10:27   things are going to go bad later some if [TS]

00:10:30   it happens it happens but the problem [TS]

00:10:33   with this information is now I can't [TS]

00:10:34   really return my drive in to the [TS]

00:10:36   manufacturer and say hey smart reports [TS]

00:10:39   these errors could you give me the [TS]

00:10:40   drivers they'll probably just send me [TS]

00:10:43   back into the drive with the same exact [TS]

00:10:44   errors or send me back Furber give that [TS]

00:10:46   drive to someone else's they want an [TS]

00:10:47   error a drive that has errors on you [TS]

00:10:49   know I'm sure they'll take my drive and [TS]

00:10:50   then give me back another one but who's [TS]

00:10:52   to say whether that drive will have any [TS]

00:10:53   other problem so just so you know if [TS]

00:10:56   you're lit Amin AVI if you're listening [TS]

00:10:58   to this show you're probably kind of [TS]

00:11:00   geeky anyway but this this utility is [TS]

00:11:03   not I mean I won't go so far say it's [TS]

00:11:07   not for the faint of heart but it's it's [TS]

00:11:08   a geek utility this is not something [TS]

00:11:10   that that's made for like your mom to [TS]

00:11:12   use to watch her hard drive right it's [TS]

00:11:15   not it's not going to present you with [TS]

00:11:17   any actionable information it's just [TS]

00:11:19   gonna be a bunch of stats right maybe a [TS]

00:11:21   big colored thing that tells you you [TS]

00:11:24   know failed failing Pass felt like this [TS]

00:11:27   right like you'll see an attributes [TS]

00:11:29   window for something called dev disk [TS]

00:11:31   zero and it'll have like power off [TS]

00:11:34   retract count for that you know and [TS]

00:11:37   it'll give you a raw value for that so [TS]

00:11:39   these things you need to have some kind [TS]

00:11:42   of knowledge of what these things are to [TS]

00:11:44   actually really make the the best use of [TS]

00:11:47   this but I mean you know you will get it [TS]

00:11:49   at the end of the day you will see a [TS]

00:11:51   little green light or a little little [TS]

00:11:53   green block or a yellow block that's it [TS]

00:11:56   will say failing in it if you're running [TS]

00:11:58   into trouble so there is a little like [TS]

00:12:00   menu bar icon called [TS]

00:12:01   smart monitor or something that all it [TS]

00:12:03   does is put an icon in your menu bar and [TS]

00:12:06   that just changes colors green good red [TS]

00:12:07   bad and I've done that for years and I [TS]

00:12:09   always just says green this utility goes [TS]

00:12:11   further even if that little icon is [TS]

00:12:12   green this utility may be in the yellow [TS]

00:12:15   quote-unquote failing phrase the funny [TS]

00:12:17   thing about the app is that if you set [TS]

00:12:19   the preference that says only tell me [TS]

00:12:21   that I'm failing if one of these stats [TS]

00:12:23   changes over time now when I launched it [TS]

00:12:25   says that my drive past because this [TS]

00:12:27   reallocated bad sectors thing has been [TS]

00:12:29   the same for the life of this drive [TS]

00:12:31   right so and it's pretty new drive this [TS]

00:12:33   is 1.5 terabyte Western Digital caviar [TS]

00:12:35   black I think and it's the main drive [TS]

00:12:39   that I run off of but I've got only [TS]

00:12:42   other backup so I figure I'll just let [TS]

00:12:43   this one sale I I did increase the [TS]

00:12:45   frequency of my SuperDuper backups but [TS]

00:12:46   we'll just see how we go I was gonna I [TS]

00:12:48   was gonna ask you I'm you know people [TS]

00:12:50   are always asking what kind of hard [TS]

00:12:51   drives you have and and all of that [TS]

00:12:53   stuff and we've talked enough about [TS]

00:12:55   drives on another show I think for for a [TS]

00:12:57   little while when we were talking about [TS]

00:12:58   backups but you know I think I think [TS]

00:13:02   it's worth noting that there's a whole [TS]

00:13:04   new generation of drives out there now [TS]

00:13:06   if the last time you bought a hard drive [TS]

00:13:08   was even a couple years ago things have [TS]

00:13:10   changed a lot and if you're starting to [TS]

00:13:13   see message just about your drive [TS]

00:13:14   failing and it's not relatively new [TS]

00:13:17   a pride they're cheap enough we'll just [TS]

00:13:19   go by anyone am i right yeah and this [TS]

00:13:22   drive to get so much better all the time [TS]

00:13:24   it's all I can do to stop myself from [TS]

00:13:26   buying a new hard drive every month [TS]

00:13:27   because I just see that you know they [TS]

00:13:28   get cheaper they better capacity they [TS]

00:13:30   get better performance everything about [TS]

00:13:32   them gets better to say no no just wait [TS]

00:13:34   for a drive to actually fail wait the [TS]

00:13:36   outgrow something to buy a new hard [TS]

00:13:37   drive things are so cheap you see like a [TS]

00:13:39   2 terabyte drive for 80 bucks you're [TS]

00:13:40   like man yeah like my scrap drive off to [TS]

00:13:44   the side where I just throw junk you [TS]

00:13:45   know but yeah for the free for the main [TS]

00:13:47   machine that we use for for doing our [TS]

00:13:49   video recording and stuff I just picked [TS]

00:13:51   up a terrible one terabyte caviar black [TS]

00:13:53   drive for 80 something dollars shipped [TS]

00:13:56   yeah I mean it you know it's you just [TS]

00:13:59   could go get a new drive and those are [TS]

00:14:01   good those like the premium mechanisms [TS]

00:14:02   yeah find the bomb you know bargain [TS]

00:14:04   basement right not a storage review [TS]

00:14:07   finding their best rated ro desktop hard [TS]

00:14:10   drive with great performance and good [TS]

00:14:11   power consumption not too noisy and [TS]

00:14:13   still 80 bucks [TS]

00:14:14   so yeah you and noise we got to do a [TS]

00:14:17   show just about you and your noise [TS]

00:14:19   phobias yeah thank you I would be a very [TS]

00:14:22   interesting show but which is a silence [TS]

00:14:24   wouldn't yeah that's right [TS]

00:14:25   that's 33 seconds of silence exactly [TS]

00:14:30   so today's show half halfway through the [TS]

00:14:33   hour let's talk about the day's job uh [TS]

00:14:36   yeah I guess I've got more follow-up [TS]

00:14:38   Allison know you want to do it let's do [TS]

00:14:40   it [TS]

00:14:40   I've got what I've got more problem we [TS]

00:14:42   could possibly I can fill a whole show [TS]

00:14:43   with this follow up so I'll save it okay [TS]

00:14:45   well how about this if we if we get [TS]

00:14:46   through today's topic to your [TS]

00:14:47   satisfaction we can circle back so that [TS]

00:14:50   one Oh problem but okay so the topic [TS]

00:14:54   Apple's hardware blind spots this is a [TS]

00:14:56   personal peeve of mine that I don't [TS]

00:14:58   think is shared by it shared in bits and [TS]

00:15:01   pieces by other people but whenever I [TS]

00:15:02   try to complain about it to somebody [TS]

00:15:04   maybe they'll agree on one of my points [TS]

00:15:06   but my 17 other points they'll think I'm [TS]

00:15:08   insane so I think this concern is [TS]

00:15:10   distributed through apples enthusiast [TS]

00:15:13   community and just happens to be [TS]

00:15:14   concentrated in me um before I get here [TS]

00:15:18   before I go into the beat the blind [TS]

00:15:20   spots I'll just talk about it's obvious [TS]

00:15:21   that Apple has lots of hardware [TS]

00:15:22   strengths I think most Apple fans will [TS]

00:15:25   be able to agree on all those and talk [TS]

00:15:27   about them what's good about Apple [TS]

00:15:28   hardware well it's high quality it's not [TS]

00:15:30   junk right [TS]

00:15:31   so it's not plastic stuff that falls [TS]

00:15:33   apart in your hands is always solid [TS]

00:15:35   materials it looks like somebody [TS]

00:15:36   designed it it doesn't look like it was [TS]

00:15:38   slapped together by a committee it looks [TS]

00:15:40   like little pieces of art apples really [TS]

00:15:43   good about innovative manufacturing [TS]

00:15:44   techniques they're always trying to find [TS]

00:15:46   a new and interesting way to build the [TS]

00:15:48   stuff they're not just happy like Dell [TS]

00:15:49   has Dell for decades it's like we build [TS]

00:15:50   computers like this we can do a stupid [TS]

00:15:52   metal frame we slap plastic on the [TS]

00:15:53   outside we put some colored panels on it [TS]

00:15:55   we throw the internals in there and they [TS]

00:15:56   were just happy to do that for decades [TS]

00:15:57   and decades but Apple is not happy to do [TS]

00:15:59   that Apple did that you know back in the [TS]

00:16:01   80s and 90s and so how else can we make [TS]

00:16:04   computers and they you know worked with [TS]

00:16:07   manufacturers to say well you can do [TS]

00:16:08   this translucent plastic do you like [TS]

00:16:10   that but I'll still kind of got a metal [TS]

00:16:11   frame in there can we do like the entire [TS]

00:16:13   frame made out of clear plastic well you [TS]

00:16:15   get kind of hairline crack so it looks [TS]

00:16:16   kind of gross well how about we make [TS]

00:16:18   laptops out of titanium kind of works [TS]

00:16:21   with the paint doesn't stick and they're [TS]

00:16:22   always looking for you know something [TS]

00:16:24   interesting ways to do things and I [TS]

00:16:25   would call this a strength even if it [TS]

00:16:26   doesn't work out sometimes they're [TS]

00:16:28   trying new things um a great example is [TS]

00:16:31   the unibody laptops like that's the DES [TS]

00:16:34   creaking between panels and a big flat [TS]

00:16:36   thing that you pick up it's tough that's [TS]

00:16:37   a tough manufacturing challenge to make [TS]

00:16:40   something that feels solid so why don't [TS]

00:16:41   we just make it solid like a big unit [TS]

00:16:43   body thing and let's try you know [TS]

00:16:45   machining out a solid block of aluminum [TS]

00:16:47   into this particular shape maybe that'll [TS]

00:16:49   be really strong and interesting and [TS]

00:16:50   that has advantages for the product or [TS]

00:16:53   the laser micro holes that they put on [TS]

00:16:55   there you know and they have an LED [TS]

00:16:56   light behind a sheet of aluminum but [TS]

00:16:58   they don't want to put a hole in the [TS]

00:16:59   aluminum right so it too unsightly so [TS]

00:17:01   they put these tiny little holes with a [TS]

00:17:03   laser so you can't see anything there [TS]

00:17:05   until the light comes on and you see [TS]

00:17:06   light shining through right well it's [TS]

00:17:08   like solid aluminum beautiful details [TS]

00:17:10   yeah and they look nice that's the thing [TS]

00:17:14   most people know Apple's hardware it [TS]

00:17:15   looks nice you go into the Apple store [TS]

00:17:17   the store looks nice the hardware looks [TS]

00:17:18   nice so it's clear Apple has tons and [TS]

00:17:21   tons of strengths and as usual with me [TS]

00:17:24   if you're really good at something [TS]

00:17:25   that's that's when I find the flaw is [TS]

00:17:28   more irritating because if you're just a [TS]

00:17:29   total loss and you just make crap like [TS]

00:17:31   they'll then I'm not really interested [TS]

00:17:33   in criticizing some particular thing you [TS]

00:17:36   do because it's just not worth my time [TS]

00:17:37   right but the Apple Apple's the first [TS]

00:17:39   hardware to paraphrase Alan Kay that's [TS]

00:17:41   good enough to criticize and the [TS]

00:17:43   criticisms I've had [TS]

00:17:45   hardware the reason I call them blind [TS]

00:17:47   sauce is because they're persistent [TS]

00:17:48   maybe they're endemic to maybe they're [TS]

00:17:50   part of the good stuff I think a lot of [TS]

00:17:52   them are you know a result of doing all [TS]

00:17:54   the good things but the things Apple [TS]

00:17:55   does wrong have been the same pretty [TS]

00:17:58   much for the entire job just to error [TS]

00:17:59   when you you know came back and I don't [TS]

00:18:02   doesn't look like they're getting better [TS]

00:18:03   in some plays they're getting worse so [TS]

00:18:04   I've tried to break them down to [TS]

00:18:06   categories so we don't just wander all [TS]

00:18:08   over the place okay and the broadest [TS]

00:18:10   category I have to say is when Apple [TS]

00:18:14   does form over function it's just an [TS]

00:18:17   entire category of things where all [TS]

00:18:19   those good things about making things [TS]

00:18:20   look nice compromises the functionality [TS]

00:18:23   purely for aesthetics okay and I'm going [TS]

00:18:26   to start in a weird place I'm gonna [TS]

00:18:27   start with keyboards wait do you want to [TS]

00:18:29   share all of the different categories [TS]

00:18:31   first or do you just want to start tell [TS]

00:18:33   the category in the night donuts how to [TS]

00:18:35   do all the categories first we'll just [TS]

00:18:37   go through man order alright surprise [TS]

00:18:38   okay I'd even get all the categories [TS]

00:18:40   true enough um so keyboards with form [TS]

00:18:44   over function now there's a whole [TS]

00:18:45   sub-genre of keyboard cultism about the [TS]

00:18:48   mechanisms and mechanical switches and [TS]

00:18:50   buckling Springs and different colors of [TS]

00:18:52   switch mechanisms from different regions [TS]

00:18:53   of manufacture that's not what I'm [TS]

00:18:55   talking about here that's the whole [TS]

00:18:56   other fetish [TS]

00:18:58   I'll talk about the most basic stuff [TS]

00:19:00   about keyboards I'll highlight a laptop [TS]

00:19:04   keyboards to begin with the half-size [TS]

00:19:07   keys I don't think there's anyone out [TS]

00:19:09   there who's going to say I'd rather have [TS]

00:19:11   half-size Keys than full-size Keys [TS]

00:19:12   because you can get used to half-size [TS]

00:19:15   keys people can get good at doing them [TS]

00:19:16   but especially if you're an adult male [TS]

00:19:17   and you got the sausage fingers those [TS]

00:19:19   little sausage fingers rubbing together [TS]

00:19:21   on that little inverted T when you're [TS]

00:19:22   trying to hit the up-down left-right [TS]

00:19:23   especially if you're a programmer and [TS]

00:19:25   constantly using arrow keys maybe you're [TS]

00:19:27   not into VI keys for the people out [TS]

00:19:28   there who are going to say no don't use [TS]

00:19:30   the arrow keys anyway um [TS]

00:19:32   modes think long maybe max anyway the [TS]

00:19:37   little arrow keys the half size of our [TS]

00:19:38   keys drive me nuts and if you look at a [TS]

00:19:41   laptop an Apple laptop especially a 15 [TS]

00:19:45   or 17 inch there's room for full-size [TS]

00:19:47   arrow keys it will get any PC laptop [TS]

00:19:50   they have full-size our keys some PC [TS]

00:19:51   laptops have page up and page down and [TS]

00:19:54   end key home and end keys in it in a [TS]

00:19:56   particular arrangement especially things [TS]

00:19:58   that [TS]

00:19:58   size of a battleship like a 17 inch why [TS]

00:20:01   doesn't any of Apple's laptops that fall [TS]

00:20:03   size arrow keys well I'll tell you why [TS]

00:20:05   look at one of the laptops if you put in [TS]

00:20:07   a full-size inverted key the key board [TS]

00:20:10   would be asymmetrical and that is not [TS]

00:20:13   visually pleasing so Johnny I've or [TS]

00:20:15   whoever is deciding how to make these [TS]

00:20:17   things is just not going to let that fly [TS]

00:20:19   that's an example of they want the the [TS]

00:20:22   form to look like a beautiful simple [TS]

00:20:25   rectangle of probably the golden ratio [TS]

00:20:26   for all I know but they do not want that [TS]

00:20:29   to have the functionality of the [TS]

00:20:30   full-size arrow keys that's a compromise [TS]

00:20:32   they make and they they just haven't [TS]

00:20:33   gone back on it the very first review I [TS]

00:20:35   ever did of Apple's aluminum power book [TS]

00:20:38   series when they were called power books [TS]

00:20:39   and the first aluminum before the [TS]

00:20:41   unibody they just made them out of [TS]

00:20:42   aluminum I put up a graphic that showed [TS]

00:20:45   the 12 inch 15 inch and 17 inch laptops [TS]

00:20:48   all next to each other all the same [TS]

00:20:50   scale you saw they all use exactly the [TS]

00:20:52   same keyboard which is great for [TS]

00:20:53   manufacturing efficiency and it's great [TS]

00:20:55   for visual appearance they all look [TS]

00:20:56   exactly the same it's all the same [TS]

00:20:58   keyboard everywhere but it's ridiculous [TS]

00:20:59   to have this tiny little keyboard in the [TS]

00:21:01   middle of a 17 inch battleship size [TS]

00:21:03   laptop the whole point of having a 17 [TS]

00:21:05   inch thing is you can have a big screen [TS]

00:21:06   and give me a full-size keyboard [TS]

00:21:08   give me full-size our keys get me home [TS]

00:21:10   and Enki its it drives me insane and [TS]

00:21:13   they just will not budge in that if you [TS]

00:21:14   look at everything a laptop that made [TS]

00:21:15   sense the keyboards are the same I [TS]

00:21:18   imagine they get huge economic benefits [TS]

00:21:22   from having exactly the same keyboard [TS]

00:21:23   and all these things you know not having [TS]

00:21:25   different inventories up making the same [TS]

00:21:27   part they even use the same keyboards on [TS]

00:21:28   the desktops now for the most part or [TS]

00:21:29   the same key mechanisms but it just [TS]

00:21:32   frustrates me to no end and you know the [TS]

00:21:35   only reason I can come up with besides [TS]

00:21:36   the economics of having the same [TS]

00:21:38   keyboard everywhere even on the desktop [TS]

00:21:41   is they just simply do not want to break [TS]

00:21:42   that perfect rectangle they don't want [TS]

00:21:44   the top to look on there there are [TS]

00:21:46   things to be asymmetrical and that [TS]

00:21:48   compromise I feel like is a bridge too [TS]

00:21:50   far for things looking nice I'm not [TS]

00:21:55   staying on laptops the other one that [TS]

00:21:56   some people do complain about is the [TS]

00:21:57   sharp edges you know the yeah when [TS]

00:22:01   you've got when you get your the natural [TS]

00:22:03   way to sit in front of a laptop is you [TS]

00:22:05   sort of have your your wrists resting [TS]

00:22:07   and the [TS]

00:22:09   edge is sharp yeah I'm just gonna say [TS]

00:22:11   that you should not rest your wrists on [TS]

00:22:12   anything while you are typing it's very [TS]

00:22:14   bad for you that's what everybody's [TS]

00:22:16   don't every wheel my wrist rest don't [TS]

00:22:17   rest your wrist and thinks maybe you [TS]

00:22:18   have no problem with it maybe it's the [TS]

00:22:20   way you'd like to do things if you ever [TS]

00:22:21   get RSI which is another show entirely [TS]

00:22:23   we should do I should add that to my [TS]

00:22:24   topics list you will thank me for but [TS]

00:22:26   when you're not typing for example you [TS]

00:22:28   can rescue us but either way just [TS]

00:22:29   handling these devices their devices [TS]

00:22:31   that you put your hands on don't put [TS]

00:22:33   sharp edges on the man like I'm not [TS]

00:22:35   saying they have to all be round and [TS]

00:22:36   cuddly and cover fur but don't make them [TS]

00:22:39   razor sharp right but when the laptop is [TS]

00:22:41   closed it sure does look nice it looks [TS]

00:22:44   really nice it looks great process it is [TS]

00:22:46   amazing they manufacture something with [TS]

00:22:47   that it's that wonderful but don't make [TS]

00:22:50   them that sharp like seriously think [TS]

00:22:52   about the people are touching these [TS]

00:22:54   things with their hands that's kind of a [TS]

00:22:56   new development but in general Apple has [TS]

00:22:58   not been afraid to make things even on [TS]

00:23:00   my tower towers got quote unquote [TS]

00:23:02   handles those things would cut your [TS]

00:23:03   fingers off man these things weigh 50 [TS]

00:23:05   pounds and they want you to pick them up [TS]

00:23:06   from these incredibly sharp aluminum [TS]

00:23:09   handles yes the old deal g4 and g3 [TS]

00:23:13   handles were quite I mean they didn't go [TS]

00:23:17   so far as to have a motorcycle grip on [TS]

00:23:18   him but they were they were nice to pick [TS]

00:23:20   up and they were light to IMAX have a [TS]

00:23:23   little bit of this problem more recently [TS]

00:23:25   and they've done this on a bunch of [TS]

00:23:27   their computers they're supposedly [TS]

00:23:28   friendly desktop computers but they put [TS]

00:23:29   everything in the back all the ports in [TS]

00:23:31   the back the power button on the back [TS]

00:23:33   yeah that's you know they wanted to look [TS]

00:23:36   nice oh wait so so you stare you stare [TS]

00:23:38   at the front of I have an iMac right [TS]

00:23:40   here it's it's recording us right now [TS]

00:23:41   and this is one of the aluminum body [TS]

00:23:46   ones and it it does have all the ports [TS]

00:23:50   in the back and there's a power button [TS]

00:23:51   in the back but that's great I mean I [TS]

00:23:53   prefer that you're saying you want the [TS]

00:23:56   the buttons and stuff in the front of it [TS]

00:23:58   everything needs to be there but there's [TS]

00:24:00   a common function of when you sit down [TS]

00:24:02   in front of a computer that sometimes [TS]

00:24:03   you just want to plug in a USB device [TS]

00:24:04   for a second right and I know there's a [TS]

00:24:06   port on the keyboard too but it would be [TS]

00:24:08   nice to acknowledge not enough to get up [TS]

00:24:11   walk around in the back yeah or twist if [TS]

00:24:13   I reach behind there and even just for [TS]

00:24:14   the first you know the experience of [TS]

00:24:16   people who turn their computers on and [TS]

00:24:17   off or put them to sleep especially [TS]

00:24:18   since they remove the power button from [TS]

00:24:19   the keyboard way back when to reach [TS]

00:24:21   around behind there and [TS]

00:24:22   deal for that little power button thing [TS]

00:24:24   I know they want everything out of the [TS]

00:24:26   way but again I think it's just a bridge [TS]

00:24:28   too far putting everything back there [TS]

00:24:29   not having a single one in the front [TS]

00:24:31   busy with Martha the appearance or on [TS]

00:24:32   the bottom or anywhere and you know and [TS]

00:24:34   even the keyboard one is hidden [TS]

00:24:36   underneath there it's not easy to get I [TS]

00:24:37   know they want the cable to look nice so [TS]

00:24:39   you don't have the big USB thing [TS]

00:24:40   sticking out of the end so they recess [TS]

00:24:41   it which is good on one side but you [TS]

00:24:44   know I'm in the in the form of a [TS]

00:24:46   function category I'm getting back to [TS]

00:24:47   the weaker arguments here so the iMac [TS]

00:24:48   it's not as bad as I think the keyboards [TS]

00:24:50   are but it is indicative of the same [TS]

00:24:53   trend of at a certain point they just [TS]

00:24:55   cut off the functionality and say no [TS]

00:24:57   form must be R king here and I want my [TS]

00:25:00   thing to be beautiful and clean and I [TS]

00:25:02   don't care if you have to reach around [TS]

00:25:03   behind the thing and to find the port so [TS]

00:25:07   I'm just going to move on to the next [TS]

00:25:08   category so we can get through this [TS]

00:25:11   durability durability is a I think most [TS]

00:25:16   people recognize this a little bit the [TS]

00:25:18   that that you know when you have [TS]

00:25:19   something that looks nice you trade off [TS]

00:25:21   sometimes durability because you can [TS]

00:25:25   make something really durable but then [TS]

00:25:26   it looks like a big giant plastic [TS]

00:25:27   thermos with rubber gaskets all over and [TS]

00:25:29   it's not particularly nice and the thing [TS]

00:25:33   that occurred to me a couple years ago [TS]

00:25:34   is especially with Apple's handheld [TS]

00:25:37   things this is kind of like Apple cells [TS]

00:25:39   you only sort of the core of the device [TS]

00:25:42   like in a future world kind of right and [TS]

00:25:45   I'm I think they'll sell you this [TS]

00:25:46   amazing little metal core that has all [TS]

00:25:49   the functionality of the device but of [TS]

00:25:50   course they're just selling you the [TS]

00:25:51   inside and then you slip that little [TS]

00:25:53   core into a case that you buy and [TS]

00:25:54   rappelled Apple sells a couple of cases [TS]

00:25:56   but you you know buy your own iPods [TS]

00:25:58   everyone's iPods aren't look on the UNIX [TS]

00:26:00   timer in the subway or something look [TS]

00:26:02   around and see how many people have [TS]

00:26:04   their iPhones or iPods in cases unless [TS]

00:26:06   it's like a nano or a shuffle they're [TS]

00:26:07   all in cases Apple didn't sell you those [TS]

00:26:10   cases for the most part you don't see [TS]

00:26:11   people with apple brandy cases you see [TS]

00:26:13   them with random green cases pink cases [TS]

00:26:15   cases with stickers on them homemade [TS]

00:26:16   cases all sorts of stuff and it's kind [TS]

00:26:20   of weird to me that Apple sells this [TS]

00:26:21   entire line of products that you [TS]

00:26:23   basically it's not that you're not [TS]

00:26:25   supposed to use them as is but people [TS]

00:26:26   people just don't it would be kind of [TS]

00:26:29   like if they sold you remember the g4 [TS]

00:26:30   cube oh yeah I got one are you going [TS]

00:26:33   right now you pull the bottom out of it [TS]

00:26:35   yeah [TS]

00:26:36   ├índale and everything it's like if they [TS]

00:26:37   just sold you that little core and you [TS]

00:26:39   got to slip it into something right get [TS]

00:26:41   build your own chassis yeah [TS]

00:26:43   and in some ways this is kind of [TS]

00:26:46   appropriate because you can always add [TS]

00:26:48   the case that you want but if they sold [TS]

00:26:50   it to you like more durable with the [TS]

00:26:52   thing on the outside you couldn't take [TS]

00:26:54   that away like you couldn't take it [TS]

00:26:55   apart so you could say it's giving the [TS]

00:26:57   most possible options if you if you go [TS]

00:26:59   if you want to use it without the case [TS]

00:27:00   then you can do it but if they sold it [TS]

00:27:02   to you with like a big rubberized thing [TS]

00:27:03   all over it [TS]

00:27:04   you can't like peel that off or you know [TS]

00:27:06   what I mean like it gives more options [TS]

00:27:09   to sell it as just a little core and you [TS]

00:27:12   can add stuff to it if you want and [TS]

00:27:13   they're working on it I give them credit [TS]

00:27:15   for working on especially with the [TS]

00:27:16   portables the glass iPhone 4 despite the [TS]

00:27:19   fact that people say scratches and [TS]

00:27:20   shatters and all that stuff it's clear [TS]

00:27:21   that they're recognizing durability [TS]

00:27:24   concerns of their previous iPods [TS]

00:27:27   bringing up plastic scratches and [TS]

00:27:29   plastic cracks so I say let's find [TS]

00:27:30   something that's more scratch resistant [TS]

00:27:32   let's put glass on it that seems to work [TS]

00:27:33   on the front let's try it on the back [TS]

00:27:35   well then we have to get super strong [TS]

00:27:37   glass that resists spending so we got [TS]

00:27:38   this Gorilla Glass and we have some [TS]

00:27:43   problems with shattering but it's clear [TS]

00:27:44   that they're trying to work on that but [TS]

00:27:47   my big problem with them just selling [TS]

00:27:48   this little core and this little not [TS]

00:27:51   quite as durable as it should be core is [TS]

00:27:52   that it also kind of trades form for [TS]

00:27:55   function this gets back to the previous [TS]

00:27:56   topic of my example is iPod Touches we [TS]

00:27:59   have iPod Touches all over the house and [TS]

00:28:00   they all have that like shiny silver [TS]

00:28:03   back yeah [TS]

00:28:04   which looks really nice but you cannot [TS]

00:28:06   put one of these things in the r-mo sofa [TS]

00:28:08   because it will slip off there like you [TS]

00:28:10   know ice on a hot grill alright even in [TS]

00:28:13   your hand like they are made to be like [TS]

00:28:14   it's slippery little things please drop [TS]

00:28:16   your $400 a piece of glass what's the [TS]

00:28:18   same thing with the newer remote that [TS]

00:28:19   comes with the newer Apple TV it's the [TS]

00:28:22   same same exact problem at all right but [TS]

00:28:24   yet same thing they don't have enough [TS]

00:28:26   friction there's nothing coefficient of [TS]

00:28:27   static friction is insufficient on these [TS]

00:28:29   devices so the main thing I want to do [TS]

00:28:32   with every single ipod touch I have is [TS]

00:28:33   put a thin coating or silicon rubber all [TS]

00:28:36   over all of them so they grip to any [TS]

00:28:37   fabric links and I can put it on an [TS]

00:28:39   incline on the couch it will just stick [TS]

00:28:41   there right but without that on it's [TS]

00:28:43   just a slippery little lozenge but the [TS]

00:28:45   big problem with this is like isn't this [TS]

00:28:46   working the way it's supposed to like [TS]

00:28:47   you said you can add a case if you want [TS]

00:28:48   if you don't want and you don't [TS]

00:28:49   have to and apples doing the best thing [TS]

00:28:51   no because every accessory that they [TS]

00:28:53   sell in other people sell will not [TS]

00:28:55   accept your thing if it has a case on it [TS]

00:28:57   right well docks and everything their [TS]

00:28:59   docks won't accept it so I can't use [TS]

00:29:01   docks anywhere in my house because every [TS]

00:29:02   single one of my iPods has some sort of [TS]

00:29:03   case on it [TS]

00:29:04   to make it so it's not a slippery little [TS]

00:29:06   pill but you know now you can't fit it [TS]

00:29:09   into any docks and even third-party [TS]

00:29:11   docks they just give up enough this you [TS]

00:29:12   look if you're going to wear a case you [TS]

00:29:13   take the thing in and out of a case [TS]

00:29:14   which is ridiculous nobody does it or [TS]

00:29:16   just use the plug and hope that your [TS]

00:29:18   case manufacturer was smart enough to [TS]

00:29:19   leave room for the plug to fit in [TS]

00:29:21   without you having to squish stuff out [TS]

00:29:23   of the way um so I think there's a ways [TS]

00:29:26   to go there on the on the durability [TS]

00:29:28   front on the handhelds [TS]

00:29:30   they do seem to be sort of addressing it [TS]

00:29:32   but on the other hand they just keep [TS]

00:29:33   making shiny iPods they just keep making [TS]

00:29:35   you know slippery iPhones it looks nice [TS]

00:29:38   but it's not the most durable thing in [TS]

00:29:40   the world and I feel like they're just [TS]

00:29:42   leaving this as a quote-unquote third [TS]

00:29:44   party opportunity which is Apple's kind [TS]

00:29:45   of codeword for fu and if you don't like [TS]

00:29:48   it fine have some other company deal [TS]

00:29:50   with it we're not dealing with it we [TS]

00:29:51   never drop our stuff ours never [TS]

00:29:53   scratches we don't put sand in our [TS]

00:29:54   pockets all our couches our magnetics or [TS]

00:29:57   devices stick to it I don't know so [TS]

00:30:00   that's a let's say really quickly thanks [TS]

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00:30:22   though they'll get it done right the [TS]

00:30:23   first time and save you a bunch of money [TS]

00:30:24   source bits comm check them out [TS]

00:30:27   thanks someone in the chatroom is asking [TS]

00:30:32   if these if everything I'm complaining [TS]

00:30:34   about it really problems compared to non [TS]

00:30:35   apple products like I tried to say in [TS]

00:30:37   the beginning I'm not comparing Apple to [TS]

00:30:40   other manufacturers other manufactures [TS]

00:30:42   so beneath me my concern because they're [TS]

00:30:45   so awful I'm comparing Apple to an ideal [TS]

00:30:48   same thing apples comparing yourself to [TS]

00:30:49   apples not competing against other [TS]

00:30:51   manufacturers who's competing events its [TS]

00:30:52   own ideals and its own head of like [TS]

00:30:54   righteousness thing we can make it just [TS]

00:30:56   because Apple's probably you know miles [TS]

00:30:58   better than the other companies that are [TS]

00:31:01   out there on the PC side especially [TS]

00:31:03   making high [TS]

00:31:03   where that doesn't mean they can't [TS]

00:31:05   improve things and you mentioned Docs I [TS]

00:31:07   mean that's that's the whole problem [TS]

00:31:08   that people are always complaining about [TS]

00:31:10   is that every time a new new iPhone [TS]

00:31:12   comes out for example you got to throw [TS]

00:31:14   away all the other Docs that you've had [TS]

00:31:16   for years and adjust up to the to the [TS]

00:31:19   new one and for a while you would get [TS]

00:31:20   manufacturers doing these weird little [TS]

00:31:22   dock adapters that even though they [TS]

00:31:24   supposedly had one for each version of [TS]

00:31:26   the iPod or iPhone that came out they [TS]

00:31:28   never quite fit you know and that's [TS]

00:31:30   where we are now now that my wife and I [TS]

00:31:32   are finally allowed to have allowed by [TS]

00:31:35   Verizon to have iPhones again you know [TS]

00:31:38   that that's the situation she's in she's [TS]

00:31:40   like okay still have to get for this and [TS]

00:31:41   can't we use the dock that we were using [TS]

00:31:43   that worked perfectly for the iPad well [TS]

00:31:45   no we can't use that dock because it [TS]

00:31:47   doesn't exactly fit the iPhone and now [TS]

00:31:49   so do we get another talk do we get a [TS]

00:31:51   case that you can take the bottom part [TS]

00:31:53   off to put into the dock no we don't [TS]

00:31:56   really want to have to do that or maybe [TS]

00:31:57   we'll get that case anyway but then do [TS]

00:31:59   you really want to be removing half of [TS]

00:32:00   your case every time you want to charge [TS]

00:32:02   it up yeah it is it was really a hassle [TS]

00:32:04   I'm almost amazed that Apple did the [TS]

00:32:06   universal dock connector you know that [TS]

00:32:08   where they gave the little inserts yeah [TS]

00:32:10   that's that seems like a very uh Napa [TS]

00:32:12   like solution because it isn't elegant [TS]

00:32:14   it doesn't look nice but I guess at a [TS]

00:32:15   certain point people just get insane [TS]

00:32:17   that they're buying these $30 glorified [TS]

00:32:19   pieces of plastic with metal Connect [TS]

00:32:21   during them yeah I forgot about the [TS]

00:32:24   cases where you take off the bottom [TS]

00:32:25   talked about a way to damage your your [TS]

00:32:27   device if you're gonna slide something [TS]

00:32:29   on and off it every day everything's [TS]

00:32:30   gonna scratch do you do you have a case [TS]

00:32:32   usik do you have an iPhone 4 I don't [TS]

00:32:34   have an iPhone that's another show by [TS]

00:32:36   the way [TS]

00:32:37   no no iPhones at all [TS]

00:32:40   but I do have lots of iPod that's just [TS]

00:32:41   really that's a surprise [TS]

00:32:43   I'm you should have known that about me [TS]

00:32:45   yeah we could do a show about that maybe [TS]

00:32:46   we need just to do that show right now [TS]

00:32:48   and why I don't have an iPhone that'll [TS]

00:32:50   derail it that'll be real entirely save [TS]

00:32:52   it leave a that's at the top of my list [TS]

00:32:55   right now we got to talk about that next [TS]

00:32:56   week that's number one topic we get that [TS]

00:32:58   we zoom through the realize um I bit [TS]

00:33:02   before I ever said it's like you think [TS]

00:33:04   you know somebody like you knew I didn't [TS]

00:33:07   have an iPhone because I needed to be on [TS]

00:33:08   Verizon you knew that I talked about all [TS]

00:33:10   times right I totally closeted you're [TS]

00:33:12   like closeted not closeted everyone who [TS]

00:33:14   knows me knows like I guess you're [TS]

00:33:16   saying I don't know [TS]

00:33:17   no and that hurt I think I mention it to [TS]

00:33:19   hurt for but you just don't listen that [TS]

00:33:22   hurts - truth hurts but before before I [TS]

00:33:26   leave the durability topic yeah this is [TS]

00:33:29   something this whole durability thing is [TS]

00:33:31   like an article that I wanted to write [TS]

00:33:33   forever but never wrote because they're [TS]

00:33:34   just too whiny so but it works better in [TS]

00:33:36   a podcast but like I was going to write [TS]

00:33:39   this I guess before the iPhone came out [TS]

00:33:41   or whatever but it's been online for [TS]

00:33:43   ages this whole durability thing and the [TS]

00:33:45   thing about durability and size size and [TS]

00:33:49   durability are that like the two most [TS]

00:33:52   powerful tools a maker of any kind of [TS]

00:33:55   physical product has for encouraging [TS]

00:34:00   fanatical loyalty rabid crazy person [TS]

00:34:03   loyalty yeah [TS]

00:34:04   and now maybe you don't want that maybe [TS]

00:34:05   that's not important and certainly [TS]

00:34:06   doesn't translate into sales but say you [TS]

00:34:08   want to make something that you want to [TS]

00:34:09   have this tiny little core of insane [TS]

00:34:13   people who will never buy anything else [TS]

00:34:14   who love your stuff so much make your [TS]

00:34:17   thing incredibly durable or if it's [TS]

00:34:19   something you carry make it small and [TS]

00:34:22   light with laptops it's particularly [TS]

00:34:24   important small light and I'll give an [TS]

00:34:25   example like say well I don't know [TS]

00:34:29   enough about either one of these [TS]

00:34:29   products to be accurate but pretend that [TS]

00:34:31   I actually do and pretend this is [TS]

00:34:32   actually true the two examples are going [TS]

00:34:33   to give our snap on and that name of [TS]

00:34:35   that drill company that makes was really [TS]

00:34:36   powerful drills that I can't remember [TS]

00:34:38   people who like those things are insane [TS]

00:34:40   about them because they're just the [TS]

00:34:41   highest quality in the most [TS]

00:34:42   indestructible things you could possibly [TS]

00:34:44   imagine in in a past life John when I [TS]

00:34:46   was a teenager I used to work in an auto [TS]

00:34:49   mechanic and I one of the mechanics that [TS]

00:34:52   I used to know he didn't work there but [TS]

00:34:54   he worked elsewhere and I I was talking [TS]

00:34:57   to him and he was a snap-on guy and all [TS]

00:34:58   his tools are snap I like it like for [TS]

00:35:00   people who don't know about this like [TS]

00:35:02   that just a basic snap-on screwdriver is [TS]

00:35:06   gonna cost you know 50 to 100 bucks and [TS]

00:35:09   you'd say that's create and of course [TS]

00:35:10   this guy's got a whole tool chest fold [TS]

00:35:12   these things he's a lifelong mechanic [TS]

00:35:13   you know from came from the Air Force or [TS]

00:35:16   the the army and and out of a mechanic [TS]

00:35:18   his whole life and this is all he would [TS]

00:35:19   use and I would say well the guys at the [TS]

00:35:21   you know the place where I work they all [TS]

00:35:23   have you know they all just use a [TS]

00:35:25   craftsman there and if you know those [TS]

00:35:26   things break they give you you know they [TS]

00:35:29   give you a brand new one [TS]

00:35:30   - snap-on do and he just like Tammy said [TS]

00:35:32   they don't break yeah I mean that's kind [TS]

00:35:37   of more of a high-end kind of thing than [TS]

00:35:39   durability but durability is factored [TS]

00:35:40   into it it's the same type of thing [TS]

00:35:41   craftsman does have the guaranteed for [TS]

00:35:43   life but you break those things like [TS]

00:35:44   crazy I've broken Craftsman tools um but [TS]

00:35:47   but they are way more expensive but I'm [TS]

00:35:48   thinking more like in terms of laptops [TS]

00:35:50   remember how like the power broke 100 [TS]

00:35:52   had this crazy following yeah because [TS]

00:35:54   because it was small yeah it was really [TS]

00:35:57   small once you carry that as compared to [TS]

00:35:59   the gigantic you know floor tiles that [TS]

00:36:02   they had back then it was just you just [TS]

00:36:03   become crazy loyal to it and another [TS]

00:36:05   example is like I don't know the Sony [TS]

00:36:08   Walkman or any sort of like technology [TS]

00:36:10   product if you have one and you travel [TS]

00:36:13   with it for like five years and the [TS]

00:36:15   thing just keeps on ticking not a single [TS]

00:36:16   thing goes wrong no connector breaks you [TS]

00:36:19   know sand gets inside it doesn't matter [TS]

00:36:21   water gets on it you spill stomp on it's [TS]

00:36:22   just indestructible you become so [TS]

00:36:25   insanely loyal like especially that's a [TS]

00:36:26   brand whatever brand thing that is [TS]

00:36:28   you're like I'm never buying another one [TS]

00:36:29   of whatever these things are again [TS]

00:36:31   unless it's blah durability makes people [TS]

00:36:34   crazy [TS]

00:36:35   now Apple's products are way way way on [TS]

00:36:38   the bad side of durability especially [TS]

00:36:40   when it comes to preserving their [TS]

00:36:42   original like beautiful appearance [TS]

00:36:43   because they don't wear well size wise [TS]

00:36:46   apples doing pretty well the heirs is [TS]

00:36:48   getting some people people get a little [TS]

00:36:49   bit crazy about them because once you [TS]

00:36:50   carry an heir around you're like yes [TS]

00:36:51   this is the way it should always be but [TS]

00:36:53   durability wise it's kind of like having [TS]

00:36:55   a beautiful butterfly in your hand [TS]

00:36:57   you're like Oh put it in a case and [TS]

00:36:58   don't rub it on anything because they [TS]

00:37:00   don't they don't wear well they're not [TS]

00:37:03   like a guy who I read a lot of a blog [TS]

00:37:07   from what's-his-name koi bin I don't [TS]

00:37:09   know how that's your that's right yeah [TS]

00:37:10   cool if not but he's got subtraction [TS]

00:37:13   dot-com he's got a blog post there from [TS]

00:37:14   years ago that when I read I'm like yes [TS]

00:37:16   you are you are one of my people he was [TS]

00:37:18   talking about how cast iron pan as you [TS]

00:37:21   use it becomes more beautiful like the [TS]

00:37:23   aesthetic of a cast iron pan is not the [TS]

00:37:25   way it looks when it's brand new from [TS]

00:37:26   the factory but the way it looks after [TS]

00:37:28   it's been used for its intended purpose [TS]

00:37:29   for many years it becomes more beautiful [TS]

00:37:31   the article is entitled it is it is [TS]

00:37:34   entitled to designed deterioration and [TS]

00:37:37   it was written on [TS]

00:37:39   in July of 2007 yes that and that that [TS]

00:37:43   really resonated with me because I feel [TS]

00:37:44   the same way an apple you may say you [TS]

00:37:47   can't do that like cast-iron pan is is [TS]

00:37:49   going to look more beautiful as it gets [TS]

00:37:50   used and some people might say that an [TS]

00:37:52   iPod that scratched the hell looks more [TS]

00:37:53   beautiful but I think it's clearly not [TS]

00:37:55   the intent of Apple that its devices [TS]

00:37:58   look all scratched ahead otherwise they [TS]

00:37:59   would otherwise they would picture them [TS]

00:38:01   that way right whereas the manufacturer [TS]

00:38:02   of those cast-iron pans is probably has [TS]

00:38:04   some you know beauty shot of a cast-iron [TS]

00:38:07   pan that's a hundred years old that's [TS]

00:38:08   been beat the hell and that's their you [TS]

00:38:10   know that's the aesthetic they're going [TS]

00:38:11   for it saying by our products that look [TS]

00:38:13   like this eventually isn't it awesome [TS]

00:38:14   so apples aesthetic seems to be counter [TS]

00:38:18   to durability and I feel like they're [TS]

00:38:19   leaving a lot of room here that they [TS]

00:38:21   could they could get the same fanatical [TS]

00:38:23   loyalty they do now with like you know [TS]

00:38:25   they design people who say oh look how [TS]

00:38:26   beautiful it is in this beautiful [TS]

00:38:28   lighting and everything in the perfect [TS]

00:38:29   Photoshop mock-up like apples product [TS]

00:38:31   Rasika almost unreal I mean they must be [TS]

00:38:33   untouched in some way retouched in some [TS]

00:38:36   way but that's that's the look they're [TS]

00:38:38   going for never been touched by human [TS]

00:38:40   hands it conceived in a vacuum not a [TS]

00:38:43   dust speck on it and that's not how they [TS]

00:38:45   look in real life in real life when you [TS]

00:38:46   see somebody's got a three year old [TS]

00:38:47   MacBook especially the plastic ones over [TS]

00:38:49   there they do not look good really don't [TS]

00:38:51   wear well things things crack things [TS]

00:38:53   break and Apple has the opportunity to [TS]

00:38:54   say they'll take all that design [TS]

00:38:56   expertise and manufacturing companies [TS]

00:38:57   and make something that really is [TS]

00:38:59   indestructible and it wear as well again [TS]

00:39:01   I think they're doing better with the [TS]

00:39:02   with the phones I mean they're having [TS]

00:39:04   this steps with the glass stuff and [TS]

00:39:05   everything but they're thinking about it [TS]

00:39:06   you see they're trying to do it they [TS]

00:39:07   just haven't gotten there yet but on the [TS]

00:39:09   laptop so like it's a it's a perfect [TS]

00:39:11   uniform piece of aluminum I guess it's [TS]

00:39:13   kind of more scratch resistant than it [TS]

00:39:14   used to be but you use this thing for a [TS]

00:39:17   while the sharp edges are going to get [TS]

00:39:18   dings aluminum dents it scratches easily [TS]

00:39:21   there's a big glass component to it it's [TS]

00:39:24   not great oh that I I think I missed one [TS]

00:39:27   in the form of a function looking at my [TS]

00:39:28   outline no speaking of speaking a laptop [TS]

00:39:30   with a quick backtrack this one always [TS]

00:39:32   cracked me up and I actually wrote about [TS]

00:39:34   it in my original review of the first [TS]

00:39:36   aluminum MacBook and I'm sure everyone [TS]

00:39:38   has noticed this subconsciously if not [TS]

00:39:40   consciously but Apple arranges the ports [TS]

00:39:42   on the side of their laptops in size [TS]

00:39:43   order so if you have a Mac laptop now [TS]

00:39:46   turn it sideways I'm going to look right [TS]

00:39:47   now they're there range in size are [TS]

00:39:50   they've always been arranged in size [TS]

00:39:51   order [TS]

00:39:52   I never paid any attention to that but [TS]

00:39:54   but you're right on the side of this one [TS]

00:39:55   here it's you know it's it's Ethernet [TS]

00:39:58   USB mini DisplayPort and then the the [TS]

00:40:01   audio jacks and the little lock cans and [TS]

00:40:03   thing they get there basically it's [TS]

00:40:05   smaller the MagSafe actually threw it [TS]

00:40:07   off a little bit because MagSafe got it [TS]

00:40:08   was smaller than the old circle but it [TS]

00:40:10   used to be that they were strictly in [TS]

00:40:11   size order now they're more or less from [TS]

00:40:12   big and tall to to small and thin and [TS]

00:40:15   that looks nice but don't you feel like [TS]

00:40:19   when you're deciding what order the port [TS]

00:40:21   should be on the side of your computer [TS]

00:40:22   maybe function should have a seat at the [TS]

00:40:24   table [TS]

00:40:24   seems like saying I don't care what you [TS]

00:40:27   think is the most convenient one to have [TS]

00:40:28   forward or back I don't care if you [TS]

00:40:29   think you know the USB should be in [TS]

00:40:31   front of the headphone or the headphone [TS]

00:40:32   should be behind the USB you know I [TS]

00:40:33   don't care what your arguments are we're [TS]

00:40:35   doing its size order because that's what [TS]

00:40:36   Johnny ive wants and that bothers me [TS]

00:40:40   yeah it's neat in one regard but on the [TS]

00:40:42   other regard like when you're trying to [TS]

00:40:43   plug something in and things aren't the [TS]

00:40:45   way you think they should be like [TS]

00:40:46   there's no arrangement it's going to [TS]

00:40:47   please everybody but I just want [TS]

00:40:49   functionality to have seat at that table [TS]

00:40:50   come on I want someone to say I don't [TS]

00:40:53   care that the ethernet port is bigger [TS]

00:40:55   than the USB port the USB port should be [TS]

00:40:57   further back because when it's closed up [TS]

00:40:58   it's annoying if your mousing next to it [TS]

00:41:00   or you know what I mean yeah that's I'm [TS]

00:41:03   with you I'm with you all right well I [TS]

00:41:06   don't understand still there there's I [TS]

00:41:08   have other issues with the ports in [TS]

00:41:09   general but that that could be a whole [TS]

00:41:11   other show in terms of the the [TS]

00:41:16   durability of the durability of them up [TS]

00:41:18   and them not having covers those skips [TS]

00:41:20   or anything yes and and you know I've [TS]

00:41:23   never seen a good implementation of [TS]

00:41:25   covers I've just you know on PCs a lot [TS]

00:41:28   of the time they'll have these sort of [TS]

00:41:29   rubberized things which is something [TS]

00:41:31   Apple would never do but but the idea [TS]

00:41:33   that you have these ports that are [TS]

00:41:35   literally just gaping holes for things [TS]

00:41:37   to get in especially if you have a [TS]

00:41:38   three-year-old or something I mean it [TS]

00:41:40   just it it seems like if anybody could [TS]

00:41:43   come up with a better solution for this [TS]

00:41:45   that Apple would do well the solution [TS]

00:41:47   long term solution to this I think an [TS]

00:41:49   apple would probably agree is that [TS]

00:41:50   connectors are all too big and fidgety [TS]

00:41:53   to begin with as they get smaller and [TS]

00:41:54   better then this problem will start to [TS]

00:41:56   go away and you can start to have some [TS]

00:41:57   sort of reasonable rubber gasket Emeka [TS]

00:41:59   nism yeah this segues into my next thing [TS]

00:42:01   which is perhaps my biggest complaint [TS]

00:42:03   about recent Apple hardware [TS]

00:42:06   and I wouldn't call this a blind spot so [TS]

00:42:07   much as another willful choice that I [TS]

00:42:09   think is going to bite them in the butt [TS]

00:42:10   I bring this up and most people disagree [TS]

00:42:12   with me but we'll see how we go here and [TS]

00:42:14   it is the iPod dock connector which i [TS]

00:42:17   think is perhaps the worst hardware [TS]

00:42:19   technical design decision made by the [TS]

00:42:21   jobs to our Apple and no one seems to [TS]

00:42:24   agree with me both let me lay it out [TS]

00:42:25   yeah lay it out maybe you'll win me on [TS]

00:42:28   this one so so let me start off by just [TS]

00:42:31   saying the obvious advantages of the [TS]

00:42:32   dock connector that's what everyone says [TS]

00:42:33   oh no you don't understand a doctor is [TS]

00:42:35   genius you know it's it's proprietary [TS]

00:42:37   right so you get ecosystem lock-in so I [TS]

00:42:39   need any devices that you make that work [TS]

00:42:41   with the iPod only work with the iPod [TS]

00:42:42   because you know that's what the dock [TS]

00:42:44   connector does it only it doesn't [TS]

00:42:45   working on the other I positive music [TS]

00:42:46   players or phones or anything right and [TS]

00:42:48   it and you can use the proprietary [TS]

00:42:50   nature to enforce officially licensed [TS]

00:42:52   materials you know if you want to get [TS]

00:42:54   the design to work with iPod then you've [TS]

00:42:56   got to pay a license fee to make [TS]

00:42:57   anything with a dock connector on it and [TS]

00:42:58   if you don't make it officially licensed [TS]

00:43:00   thing Apple will screw you by putting a [TS]

00:43:02   different size resistor in the next line [TS]

00:43:03   of iPod so that your thing doesn't work [TS]

00:43:04   with it it will save this this device is [TS]

00:43:06   not designed to work with this [TS]

00:43:07   peripheral I don't know if you've ever [TS]

00:43:09   seen that message but I certainly have [TS]

00:43:10   and it pisses me off but from Apple's [TS]

00:43:12   perspective it's an advantage we've got [TS]

00:43:14   a locked-in ecosystem with people making [TS]

00:43:16   accessories only for us and we can [TS]

00:43:18   enforce you know with lawyers that they [TS]

00:43:20   don't make you know accessories without [TS]

00:43:22   paying us some you know piece of money [TS]

00:43:24   for everything that they sell or I don't [TS]

00:43:26   know what the license because maybe it's [TS]

00:43:27   a flappy but whatever it is that they're [TS]

00:43:29   in control and Apple loves control and [TS]

00:43:32   the other thing people say the dock [TS]

00:43:34   connector is that it's got lots of stuff [TS]

00:43:35   on there it's good analog video it's got [TS]

00:43:37   audio it's got the USB stuff going there [TS]

00:43:40   it's got more power again so your pins [TS]

00:43:42   yeah it's it's got it's pretty good what [TS]

00:43:47   it has the other thing is that you can [TS]

00:43:49   put more power over than you can't over [TS]

00:43:50   USB connector because it's not a USB [TS]

00:43:53   thing technically so you can no you know [TS]

00:43:54   overrun it if you connect like you know [TS]

00:43:57   those ones that have like a wall plug [TS]

00:43:58   and the other end dock connector USB the [TS]

00:44:00   USB standard is not involved anywhere in [TS]

00:44:02   that connection so you can do things you [TS]

00:44:03   can't do over USB [TS]

00:44:06   but this connector this thing that they [TS]

00:44:09   made flies in the face of what Apple of [TS]

00:44:12   all companies should know having been [TS]

00:44:14   around a long time that connectors in [TS]

00:44:16   the computer industry are going in one [TS]

00:44:17   direction for the entire life of the [TS]

00:44:19   computer [TS]

00:44:19   industry they're going from parallel to [TS]

00:44:22   serial and pretty much almost never the [TS]

00:44:24   reverse direction it used to be every [TS]

00:44:26   connector that connected our computer at [TS]

00:44:28   800 pins and it was was you know three [TS]

00:44:30   inches wide and over time that the [TS]

00:44:33   connectors got a little bit less wide [TS]

00:44:35   but mostly because they made the pins [TS]

00:44:36   small over then the pins were breaking [TS]

00:44:37   so they made little contacts instead of [TS]

00:44:39   pins eventually on the on the PC every [TS]

00:44:42   one of these things that used to be a [TS]

00:44:43   gigantic parallel thing with lots of [TS]

00:44:45   wires going through it became serial [TS]

00:44:46   four wires you know power send and [TS]

00:44:49   receive USB came and sort of swamped [TS]

00:44:51   everything else it's it's just a serial [TS]

00:44:53   connection the wires are thinner you [TS]

00:44:55   know everything else hard drive scuzzy [TS]

00:44:57   cables used to be the size of my wrist [TS]

00:44:58   you couldn't even bend the frigging [TS]

00:44:59   things you know good scuzzy cables were [TS]

00:45:01   just ridiculous it's huge giant [TS]

00:45:03   connectors on the head I know if you [TS]

00:45:04   ever had the pleasure of dealing with [TS]

00:45:06   Africa with the standard it's called [TS]

00:45:07   like micro skies II nobody's got the [TS]

00:45:10   back of the Sun machine yeah yeah [TS]

00:45:11   zillions in like a one-inch area those [TS]

00:45:15   were those are really tough and God [TS]

00:45:17   forbid you know you're putting them in [TS]

00:45:18   you get that crunch sound yeah yeah and [TS]

00:45:20   and the worst part of it was that those [TS]

00:45:22   cables because there are so many wires [TS]

00:45:24   and then the cables were super super [TS]

00:45:26   thick but then they'd have this [TS]

00:45:28   relatively weak little connection point [TS]

00:45:30   and if if you if you were behind there [TS]

00:45:32   and you just bump one you'd hear that [TS]

00:45:34   sound and you'd know something terrible [TS]

00:45:36   just happened you'd be afraid that the [TS]

00:45:38   weight of the cables would snap off the [TS]

00:45:40   connector and it could yeah and like [TS]

00:45:44   that was the bad old days and now we [TS]

00:45:45   have serial Attached scuzzy firewire is [TS]

00:45:48   a sealer serial standard replacing [TS]

00:45:50   scuzzy reminder scuzzy back in the day [TS]

00:45:52   everything is going from parallel this [TS]

00:45:53   year and the reason it's obvious lots [TS]

00:45:55   and lots of wires is a pain in the butt [TS]

00:45:57   that means lots of connectors and the [TS]

00:45:58   connectors have to be small and there's [TS]

00:46:00   lots of room for stuff to go wrong that [TS]

00:46:01   little crunch that you hear that little [TS]

00:46:03   crunch sound that should be familiar to [TS]

00:46:05   people who are palm users from the old [TS]

00:46:07   days or anyone who's dealt with scuzzy [TS]

00:46:08   and everything that's not a good sound [TS]

00:46:09   that's the sound of a lack of durability [TS]

00:46:12   that's a sound of fragility and on top [TS]

00:46:14   of that the other reason you get rid of [TS]

00:46:15   parallel things is because they're wide [TS]

00:46:16   they limit the size of the device you [TS]

00:46:18   can plug them into the current iPod dock [TS]

00:46:20   connector is bigger than the iPod [TS]

00:46:21   shuffles that's why they gotta do this [TS]

00:46:22   stupid headphone thing they can't even [TS]

00:46:24   use their proprietary connector on their [TS]

00:46:26   little devices for a while they had the [TS]

00:46:28   you know the actual USB port on the iPod [TS]

00:46:31   shuffle which was nice but then they [TS]

00:46:33   said no we can do it all [TS]

00:46:33   through the headphone jack but then you [TS]

00:46:34   got to have a stupid adapter that has a [TS]

00:46:36   headphone jack on one end and a USB [TS]

00:46:38   thing on the other or the stupid little [TS]

00:46:40   dock it's just not good stuff and it [TS]

00:46:44   seems it seems like obvious like it's [TS]

00:46:46   not like they made the standard 1982 [TS]

00:46:47   when everyone was parallel they made it [TS]

00:46:49   after all the stuff had gone serial [TS]

00:46:51   after half you know they brought about [TS]

00:46:52   you know the USB revolution on the [TS]

00:46:54   desktop sort of by being the first ones [TS]

00:46:56   to say no no parallel connections just [TS]

00:46:58   USB with the iMac right and they're the [TS]

00:47:00   ones who were championing firewire for [TS]

00:47:02   you know it didn't quite work out the [TS]

00:47:03   way they wanted but they were saying [TS]

00:47:04   let's not use scuzzy let's use firewire [TS]

00:47:06   serial tiny little cables you know and [TS]

00:47:08   the thing is they really use to no [TS]

00:47:10   connectors when they made the firewire [TS]

00:47:11   connector [TS]

00:47:13   they copied the Gameboy connector I [TS]

00:47:15   don't know if you remember this but [TS]

00:47:16   remember the original game boy get his [TS]

00:47:19   headache had a link connector yes it [TS]

00:47:21   could connect to the other or someone [TS]

00:47:22   else right and it was it was smaller [TS]

00:47:24   than that the 30 pin connector that we [TS]

00:47:26   have but it was it was very similar now [TS]

00:47:28   they mention it it was similar to the [TS]

00:47:29   firewire connector that one said well [TS]

00:47:31   your Nintendo had done a lot of the [TS]

00:47:32   legwork here to make a connector that's [TS]

00:47:34   obviously safe enough for kids to use [TS]

00:47:35   plug on plug plug unplug constantly and [TS]

00:47:37   I won't break and sterile and it's a [TS]

00:47:39   serial connection let's make the fire [TS]

00:47:40   wire connector you know in the spirit of [TS]

00:47:43   that I don't know if it was based on it [TS]

00:47:44   patent wise or whatever certainly not [TS]

00:47:46   compatible but they look very similar [TS]

00:47:47   and the start was that they were [TS]

00:47:49   inspired by that connector so they [TS]

00:47:50   understood durability serial connectors [TS]

00:47:53   plug unplug really easily lots of times [TS]

00:47:56   none of those things applied to the iPod [TS]

00:47:59   dock connector is not durable you do not [TS]

00:48:01   want to plug in and unplug it lots of [TS]

00:48:02   times it's very fidgety they got rid of [TS]

00:48:05   the little remember back in the day they [TS]

00:48:06   set the little buttons you would push on [TS]

00:48:08   the side of the iPod dock connector yeah [TS]

00:48:10   to disengage the little hole right yeah [TS]

00:48:12   we still have some of those yeah that [TS]

00:48:14   they very quickly decided that would [TS]

00:48:16   beyond the ability of most people to [TS]

00:48:17   deal with well I always thought that it [TS]

00:48:19   was because at during that time period [TS]

00:48:21   you could not safely remove an iPod with [TS]

00:48:26   or without first ejecting it and I [TS]

00:48:29   remember at least in my mind maybe I've [TS]

00:48:31   got this wrong but it seemed like they [TS]

00:48:33   changed that the the hooks they removed [TS]

00:48:35   the hooks and little pinch thing from it [TS]

00:48:38   at the same time that the iPhone came [TS]

00:48:40   out because they knew the iPhone nobody [TS]

00:48:43   was gonna was going to do that but the [TS]

00:48:45   same time the iPhone was like a smarter [TS]

00:48:47   it could be unplugged and that sort of [TS]

00:48:50   ushered in the era of you sink and then [TS]

00:48:53   as soon as the sink is done the iPod or [TS]

00:48:56   device will say it is safe to remove as [TS]

00:48:59   opposed to having to eject manually but [TS]

00:49:02   maybe I've got my timeline wrong but I [TS]

00:49:04   feel like the timelines do line up but [TS]

00:49:06   I'm not sure what's causing effects [TS]

00:49:07   because the iPod Touch has the same [TS]

00:49:09   thing but for example right now the [TS]

00:49:10   shuffles you can't unplug you must [TS]

00:49:12   manually eject [TS]

00:49:13   they don't have dock connectors right [TS]

00:49:15   right it mostly comes down to a software [TS]

00:49:17   thing where they went from white list [TS]

00:49:18   black list now it's black list on on the [TS]

00:49:21   on the big iPod Touches and iPhones it's [TS]

00:49:23   blacklist [TS]

00:49:24   when we say this you can't pull it out [TS]

00:49:26   but every other time you can and that [TS]

00:49:27   was a good move but with the shuffles [TS]

00:49:29   it's still white lists you know manual [TS]

00:49:31   eject the thing before you can before [TS]

00:49:33   you can pull it out but but either way [TS]

00:49:35   like that's more of a software issue [TS]

00:49:37   because you know you can't yank out a [TS]

00:49:39   firewire hard drive when you're in the [TS]

00:49:40   middle of using it either it's not so [TS]

00:49:42   that's just a question of what kind of [TS]

00:49:44   guarantees do you have about you know [TS]

00:49:46   data it's in flight and stuff like that [TS]

00:49:48   you can go either way on that the [TS]

00:49:49   connector itself is just the the problem [TS]

00:49:51   here yeah and so I feel like the ship is [TS]

00:49:55   gonna the ship is going to say hell no I [TS]

00:49:57   what's the what's the expression the [TS]

00:49:59   chickens are gonna come home to roost on [TS]

00:50:00   the iPod dock connector sooner rather [TS]

00:50:02   than later [TS]

00:50:03   you know at a certain point they're [TS]

00:50:05   gonna make an iPhone or an iPod Touch [TS]

00:50:07   it's too thin for them to put the dock [TS]

00:50:09   connector in they're already getting [TS]

00:50:10   close if you look at the bottom [TS]

00:50:11   somewhere yes so you're saying they'll [TS]

00:50:13   have to move to something else like mini [TS]

00:50:15   USB yeah well that's what I was saying [TS]

00:50:18   before about the size of the laptops I [TS]

00:50:20   think Apple will not jump until the [TS]

00:50:23   standards start to catch up with them [TS]

00:50:24   and it may be the one that they're it's [TS]

00:50:26   currently a pipe dream for Apple is [TS]

00:50:27   probably light peak Intel's [TS]

00:50:29   fiber-optic thing where as you can [TS]

00:50:32   imagine you can make a fiber optic [TS]

00:50:33   connector really really small and it's [TS]

00:50:36   so fast that you can get away with just [TS]

00:50:38   a tiny little thing so well how do you [TS]

00:50:40   can't charge over light peak you can't [TS]

00:50:41   do this you know maybe Apple comes up [TS]

00:50:43   with another proprietary connector it's [TS]

00:50:44   not so much the proprietary nature of [TS]

00:50:45   the dock connector that's bad although [TS]

00:50:47   that is bad but the fact that it's [TS]

00:50:50   humongous wide crunchy thing with 30 [TS]

00:50:52   pins on they need to come up with a [TS]

00:50:54   serial interface the other thing is that [TS]

00:50:55   parallel interfaces allow you to have [TS]

00:50:57   fewer chips on the end decoding stuff [TS]

00:50:59   because you can just route the stuff [TS]

00:51:00   directly through to [TS]

00:51:01   no like a video signal can go directly [TS]

00:51:03   out the pens and blots of advantage to [TS]

00:51:05   the 30-pin but I think disadvantages are [TS]

00:51:08   very very quickly starting that way then [TS]

00:51:10   you really need a better connector than [TS]

00:51:14   that preferably a serial one now that [TS]

00:51:16   they have maybe room in there for our [TS]

00:51:18   fast serial interface to deal with the [TS]

00:51:20   data router it's kind of like what [TS]

00:51:22   you're talking about on the show right [TS]

00:51:23   before this about the cell phone network [TS]

00:51:26   going to entirely data where a voiceover [TS]

00:51:29   LTE instead of having a voice network [TS]

00:51:31   and a data network combine them make one [TS]

00:51:33   bill put your voice over over the data [TS]

00:51:35   network it's a stupid historical [TS]

00:51:36   distinction that's obviously going to go [TS]

00:51:38   away so let's just do it right also same [TS]

00:51:40   thing with all the other thing all the [TS]

00:51:42   other interfaces that come to the dock [TS]

00:51:43   connector with the exception of power [TS]

00:51:44   which you can't kind of get around every [TS]

00:51:46   other thing that used to be on a [TS]

00:51:46   separate pin turn it into a protocol [TS]

00:51:48   that you send over the really really [TS]

00:51:50   fast serial connection and make some [TS]

00:51:51   sort of hardware and software to decode [TS]

00:51:53   it it's where you're going to go [TS]

00:51:54   eventually anyway it's where all these [TS]

00:51:56   interfaces are going to go do it sooner [TS]

00:51:57   rather than later before you can't plug [TS]

00:51:59   that stupid thing into your iPods [TS]

00:52:00   anymore or your iphones not bad 102 [TS]

00:52:05   that's not bad we can keep going because [TS]

00:52:07   we start a little late what else do you [TS]

00:52:08   get to say you know when you were [TS]

00:52:10   talking about when you're talking about [TS]

00:52:11   older hardware and loyalty not [TS]

00:52:13   necessarily durability another one of [TS]

00:52:16   those machines that that people just [TS]

00:52:17   loved was the PowerBook g4 the 12 inch I [TS]

00:52:22   mean yeah the 12 inch yeah that was that [TS]

00:52:24   was a size thing where they felt like [TS]

00:52:26   yes how small can you make a laptop well [TS]

00:52:28   let's just shove the edges in until the [TS]

00:52:30   keyboard is practically hanging off the [TS]

00:52:31   edges and and it was pretty solid like [TS]

00:52:33   when you closed the lid on the 12-inch [TS]

00:52:35   PowerBook and you picked it up it felt [TS]

00:52:36   solid not as solid as the unibody [TS]

00:52:38   because the inner bodies did trumpet but [TS]

00:52:40   that's you know a decade later but yeah [TS]

00:52:41   the 12-inch did have that kind of [TS]

00:52:42   loyalty that's laptops are like that [TS]

00:52:44   durability and size and weight it breeds [TS]

00:52:48   loyalty but if you can make your brand [TS]

00:52:49   and this is this is something that Apple [TS]

00:52:51   has not done their brand is not [TS]

00:52:52   synonymous with durability it's [TS]

00:52:53   anonymous with lots of other good things [TS]

00:52:55   and maybe they can't have those are the [TS]

00:52:57   good things at the same time as they [TS]

00:52:58   have durability but as Apple's business [TS]

00:53:00   transitions to more and more devices [TS]

00:53:02   that you hold in your hand [TS]

00:53:03   I feel like transitioning the the image [TS]

00:53:07   of your company to be the company that [TS]

00:53:09   makes it indestructible stuff is may be [TS]

00:53:11   beneficial instead of just the company [TS]

00:53:13   that makes that attractive stuff but [TS]

00:53:14   that beautiful stuff it's [TS]

00:53:15   to have beautiful things but durability [TS]

00:53:18   and and again to their credit I think [TS]

00:53:21   especially with the iPhones and stuff [TS]

00:53:22   they're trying to go in that direction [TS]

00:53:23   they're just not you know they're having [TS]

00:53:25   missteps I'm not quite sure what you can [TS]

00:53:27   do it that's why I'm thinking like the [TS]

00:53:29   iPhone 5 or 6 assuming that the next [TS]

00:53:31   iPhone is really actually the iPhone 4s [TS]

00:53:32   and it's just the you know unified model [TS]

00:53:35   across all things with the faster CPU [TS]

00:53:37   and more RAM or whatever the next form [TS]

00:53:40   factor for an iPhone maybe not this year [TS]

00:53:42   maybe next year I would love to see it [TS]

00:53:43   be some kind of metal on the back um it [TS]

00:53:48   needs does need to it does need to be [TS]

00:53:49   metal is that why you haven't gotten an [TS]

00:53:51   iPhone no that is not what you want you [TS]

00:53:53   want to talk about that now you out you [TS]

00:53:54   got another show to do but I do have [TS]

00:53:56   another show you know what I mean it's [TS]

00:53:57   such a great topic I don't want to rush [TS]

00:53:59   it I want to I want to I want to feel [TS]

00:54:01   like we have the open road in front of [TS]

00:54:02   us when we talk about that one that's [TS]

00:54:05   kind of insular topic who cares why I [TS]

00:54:06   don't have an iPhone I think people do [TS]

00:54:08   care I bet I in in fact I don't think I [TS]

00:54:10   don't think it's a well alright how [TS]

00:54:12   about this no you know what maybe you've [TS]

00:54:14   got a point so how about this if you're [TS]

00:54:17   interested in hearing why John siracusa [TS]

00:54:19   does not have ia an iPhone write us let [TS]

00:54:24   us know if we don't get enough responses [TS]

00:54:26   we won't do it and we got plenty of [TS]

00:54:28   other topics though of wider [TS]

00:54:30   applicability I feel like we won't also [TS]

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00:55:04   support for this show just like buying a [TS]

00:55:07   shirt did you buy any the shoots I'm [TS]

00:55:10   waiting for you to send me all senior [TS]

00:55:11   you get them all you can talking about [TS]

00:55:13   the free shirts like I said it's still [TS]

00:55:14   no shirt for my show so I'm just well [TS]

00:55:16   weird that that's it going to be in the [TS]

00:55:17   next round but after this weekend the [TS]

00:55:19   shirt the store shuts down again until [TS]

00:55:21   we do the other shirts so you this is [TS]

00:55:23   your last chance to buy them store dot [TS]

00:55:25   five [TS]

00:55:25   five TV if you want if then is not [TS]

00:55:27   sending your free shirts go buy one yeah [TS]

00:55:30   and I'm really only sending you and the [TS]

00:55:32   other coast the free shirt so that let's [TS]

00:55:34   would be everybody listening to the [TS]

00:55:36   everybody except John Gruber and Marco [TS]

00:55:40   that's right so you're not going to New [TS]

00:55:43   Zealand next week I'm not I'm not a [TS]

00:55:46   traveler I neither am i how often do you [TS]

00:55:48   go to go anywhere do you travel we have [TS]

00:55:50   although we have that in common the [TS]

00:55:51   travel phobia but though listening to [TS]

00:55:53   you what was that last show that you [TS]

00:55:54   were doing I think it was the last one [TS]

00:55:55   with Merlin I think you've got me beat [TS]

00:55:57   on the neuroses area in a couple of ways [TS]

00:56:00   but I doubt it I'm travel we're probably [TS]

00:56:03   at i/o you have you a bet you have the [TS]

00:56:05   OCD thing where you say you were [TS]

00:56:07   checking the front door I don't have to [TS]

00:56:09   your Theor thing is starting to plug out [TS]

00:56:11   you're gonna unplug and replug really [TS]

00:56:13   quick we're gonna leave this in a back [TS]

00:56:19   yep yeah no I I don't I don't have that [TS]

00:56:22   I said I have had that when I was in [TS]

00:56:24   your have went in a height before I was [TS]

00:56:27   before was a meditator I used to have [TS]

00:56:30   issues with OCD and things it was never [TS]

00:56:33   pair it was never a paralyzing OCD was [TS]

00:56:35   never like like I'd be halfway to work [TS]

00:56:37   and I'd have to slam on the brakes to [TS]

00:56:39   drive back home to like check the the [TS]

00:56:41   iron in the closet wasn't you know [TS]

00:56:43   wasn't on or high heating up or [TS]

00:56:45   something it wasn't like I thought I [TS]

00:56:46   shut my neighbor's cat in my [TS]

00:56:47   refrigerator and I had to keep checking [TS]

00:56:49   it over and over again like I saw a guy [TS]

00:56:51   doing on a show it'd be like I checked [TS]

00:56:53   the door and then I better go check it [TS]

00:56:55   again and that was it I mean it wasn't [TS]

00:56:57   you know wasn't debilitating well I [TS]

00:57:01   don't know it I still feel like my [TS]

00:57:03   particular neuroses have not intrude [TS]

00:57:05   into my life to that degree but you're [TS]

00:57:07   over that but travel we can both agree [TS]

00:57:09   on I don't travel well I don't like it [TS]

00:57:12   yeah I don't you don't travel at all so [TS]

00:57:14   like if you're you know I said I don't [TS]

00:57:16   travel well I feel like with all my [TS]

00:57:18   neuroses the rational part of my mind is [TS]

00:57:22   still dominant yeah so I have a better [TS]

00:57:24   understanding of them but the travel [TS]

00:57:27   thing it has a rational foundation in [TS]

00:57:29   that I get massively motion sick do you [TS]

00:57:32   really see I don't get motion sick at [TS]

00:57:34   all I'm perfectly at home and anything [TS]

00:57:36   like we went one time to South Korea [TS]

00:57:39   and most I mean it you know I'm going to [TS]

00:57:42   get email but most Koreans it seems from [TS]

00:57:45   my observation that yeah this is going [TS]

00:57:48   somewhere good go ahead yeah most [TS]

00:57:49   Koreans seem to seem to get seasick [TS]

00:57:52   pretty easily so my my wife and her [TS]

00:57:56   whole family we all went on this little [TS]

00:57:58   this little this some kind of I don't [TS]

00:58:00   know where we weren't near Pusan or [TS]

00:58:02   something and we went to this thing [TS]

00:58:04   where they take you out on this boat and [TS]

00:58:05   the water is very rough they take you [TS]

00:58:08   out on this boat and you're on the boat [TS]

00:58:10   for all of about six minutes and they [TS]

00:58:12   take you out to this other thing it's [TS]

00:58:13   like an island where you can let go and [TS]

00:58:15   you know drink the mountain water or [TS]

00:58:18   whatever I don't so you you basically [TS]

00:58:21   you take this little boat oh everybody [TS]

00:58:23   will see everybody on this boat was [TS]

00:58:25   seasick except me and the captain you're [TS]

00:58:28   the lucky one that's great I loved it I [TS]

00:58:30   did that I'm not sure how I would do [TS]

00:58:32   like a friend of mine went on this he [TS]

00:58:34   went sailing and and and like was doing [TS]

00:58:38   one of these things where you sail [TS]

00:58:39   literally around the world on like a [TS]

00:58:40   sailboat with like six other people and [TS]

00:58:42   he's been sailing his whole life and he [TS]

00:58:45   was he was seasick on this thing a lot [TS]

00:58:47   that's the thing that people don't [TS]

00:58:48   understand that the two things about [TS]

00:58:49   motion sickness is one they think is a [TS]

00:58:50   character flaw and it like it's it's a [TS]

00:58:53   reflective of your character it's not a [TS]

00:58:54   physiological thing and the second thing [TS]

00:58:55   is they think that they don't get motion [TS]

00:58:56   sick as I have a newsflash for anybody [TS]

00:58:59   with a functioning in your ear gets [TS]

00:59:00   motion sick everybody yeah it's not like [TS]

00:59:03   where you were if you're sitting in the [TS]

00:59:04   back seat and you're reading and then I [TS]

00:59:06   can't read in cars yeah you start to get [TS]

00:59:08   sick yeah I did that's example I've seen [TS]

00:59:10   astronauts used to be the one I would [TS]

00:59:11   give astronauts or jet fighter pilots [TS]

00:59:13   astronauts and jet fighter pilots get [TS]

00:59:14   motion sick right to the point of [TS]

00:59:16   throwing up but the best one I've seen [TS]

00:59:17   recently which more people which [TS]

00:59:18   resonates with more people is that the [TS]

00:59:20   people on Deadliest Catch the people on [TS]

00:59:22   those boats yeah they get motion sick [TS]

00:59:24   they puke on the first day that they go [TS]

00:59:25   out every single time this but it what [TS]

00:59:27   did you just get used to it over time [TS]

00:59:29   well yeah you know is getting your sea [TS]

00:59:32   legs as they call obviously people are [TS]

00:59:34   susceptible to different degrees I'm [TS]

00:59:35   ridiculously susceptible to it but some [TS]

00:59:38   people you'd have to put them on the [TS]

00:59:39   North Atlantic and when those Deadliest [TS]

00:59:40   Catch boats to get them to puke or you'd [TS]

00:59:42   have to put them into a jet plane if [TS]

00:59:43   seven GS for the very first time in [TS]

00:59:45   their lives to get them to puke become [TS]

00:59:47   dry all right yeah driving it's not a [TS]

00:59:50   problem we could do a whole show on [TS]

00:59:51   motion sick let's do that [TS]

00:59:52   disgusting topic but let's do we'll do [TS]

00:59:55   it we'll do a show we'll call how'd it [TS]

00:59:57   how to deal with OCD and conquer it [TS]

00:59:57   how to deal with OCD and conquer it [TS]

01:00:00   as long as it's you know mild and not [TS]

01:00:02   debilitating and the effects of motion [TS]

01:00:05   sickness on college-educated [TS]

01:00:08   Massachusetts boy the RSI show so many [TS]

01:00:11   health problems yeah we'll just do a [TS]

01:00:12   show called Health and Mental Disorders [TS]

01:00:14   that'll be in our next episode next week [TS]

01:00:17   it's for you and Marlon to do that's [TS]

01:00:19   your whole show and mentalism mental [TS]

01:00:23   disorders with Merlin and alright was so [TS]

01:00:26   practical that was well we're going to [TS]

01:00:27   wrap this up because I have to go start [TS]

01:00:29   that one we're doing a makeup episode so [TS]

01:00:30   thanks everybody for for tuning in [TS]

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01:00:44   next week bye [TS]

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