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185: ‘Warmest Regards’, With Special Guest Dan Frommer

 

00:00:00   you add up where you put your duck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   bottom Oh dan I don't know if I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:07   your friend anymore I'm a dog on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7">TS</a>]

00:00:11   right man doc on the left is acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   but doc on the bottom you losing for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   I need to meet that what I crave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   most is vertical real estate it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/17">TS</a>]

00:00:22   tricky on the 12 inch macbook although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   had the doc pretty small but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   know I never I could never get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   the symmetry of having it on one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   sides and not having windows taken out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   full width yeah i think the rights the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   right side of my screen has been the aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   buddy list for 20 years or more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   that mmm yeah my dock icons are so small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44   and I I don't even keep many apps in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   dock the you know like permanently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:51   just the running apps is enough to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   them tiny little targets and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   like that I lack the motor skills to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   it it's just that part of what I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   about the mad when we could probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   all show about why i love the mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   it's like I feel like I can just fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   through the Mac you know like I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   clicking and moving my mouse extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   fast and same whenever I get a new job I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:13   demand the fastest Mac possible because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   it's my brain is basically at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   speed of the computer yep but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   it is about doc clicking it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   it's never going to work yeah always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   wrong icon I'm just noticing now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   Apple has added varied it's very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   them to do so auto added the iwork apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   to my doc again for the 10th time oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   nice of them very kind it's been a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:41   since I've noticed that but yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   probably right there I do use numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   that's the only I use numbers a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   did I use it by far and away more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   the others even though i think keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/110">TS</a>]

00:01:51   is probably the best of the apps I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   numbers quite a bit I keep like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   sponsorship schedule in a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/116">TS</a>]

00:01:59   spreadsheet so that's the one that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00   updated all the time but I don't need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   open all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/122">TS</a>]

00:02:06   notice I have I books in there yep they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   did that to my who very nice to dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   mistake kind of them to put in an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   that i never used on the back in touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   ah how's your housework is that are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/134">TS</a>]

00:02:21   going to be interrupted by hammers uh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   I don't think so they did not show up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   no good so I've been very lucky in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   game of roulette that is try to schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   a recording of the talk show on a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   when the when the guys banging away at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/154">TS</a>]

00:02:39   my house are not here so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   forgot to check our we holiday partying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   or no I'm not but you're certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45   welcome oh man now I'm just kidding i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/165">TS</a>]

00:02:49   have a fizzy water though no I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   fizzy water and I have a I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56   some kind of fruit juice blend smoothie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   that I paid a lot of money for troops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   report went out for the deck well I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   I poured one out for the deck with Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   yesterday I saw you had a nice post yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   when I started splat F while you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   know your your history with the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   goes back quite far when I started splat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   F in 2011 my my only dream was to be dec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   worthy and I never got enough well I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:25   I got a different deal from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   company rather quickly so I never never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   got to work with the deck but was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/210">TS</a>]

00:03:34   something I aspired to to work with yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38   well I mean I would relate a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   history on my post I mean it's a fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   first topic for those who don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   or listening who didn't pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   the deck network a little ad network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   that I mean if you're listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   and you don't know the little adds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   that have been on daring fireball for 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   years and I don't have you know I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   help you but then you're part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   problem right although I suppose there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   are people who might be just resulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   by RSS so it's possible anyway the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/244">TS</a>]

00:04:09   was a well still is as as we speak it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   it's alive until tomorrow and the March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   an ad network for independent websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   with a couple of very simple rules only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   takes ads from sponsors that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   are interesting in the old days we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   to actually have a rule that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   somebody some member of the deck network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   had to actually be a purchaser or user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   of the product and that's sort of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   they ever that wasn't really sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   but we had to at least think hey this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   something that the people who read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   sites in the deck might actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   one ad per page so you're not allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:49   join other networks and have 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50   different ads on page the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   was to make it exclusive and that charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   money for the exclusivity of hey if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   want to get a little graphical ad on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   site like kottke org or daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   there's only going to be one ad per page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   and it's going to be through the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05   and that's it very small a relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09   small bit of real estate on screen no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   animation no tracking no JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   payloads nothing like that and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   pretty good run 11 years but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   kaput do you think you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:25   you're not Jim but was there ever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   point where you debated okay the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   sizes are getting bigger or the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   format's of the web are changing should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   we make the ad bigger or you know cocky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/333">TS</a>]

00:05:37   actually did that if you look Kottke I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40   don't even know how he's doing it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   think maybe because we did switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   retina images a couple of years ago for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/344">TS</a>]

00:05:48   the obvious reason that the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   weren't retina didn't look good on non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   retina screens I'd there was some talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:57   of it but I think that it did like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/357">TS</a>]

00:06:01   last year or so as Jim wrote in his post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   his sort of goodbye post to it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:09   bigger problem was just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   interest from advertisers was dwindling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   and so worrying about what the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   format I mean I suppose you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17   well maybe if you fix the format there'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   be more interest but it was seem pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   clear that that wasn't that wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   issue the issue was that the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   wasn't going to traditional web ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   period it was going to social but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   know Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   you know and obviously you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   online advertising is still going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   google to that was the bigger but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   would also not be surprised if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   because I remember the kind of the gist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   was that the target audience was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:47   a creative design crowd I would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   surprised if the advertisers who are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   were using the deck to reach that crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   are now advertising on things like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   podcast instead of buying banner ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   online or at least putting some of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   money into that yeah yeah and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   look that's actually what cock keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   doing khakis put somehow in his template [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   he's taking the ad and taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   retinas sighs ad and running it 2x so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:13   it's a little bit like blurry because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   it's double sized but it's at least up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/435">TS</a>]

00:07:19   for you're looking at it on a Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   screen it's you know but he's but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   made it physically twice the twice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   size that Katya is very clever he is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/445">TS</a>]

00:07:30   does this thing that I'm not familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   with which has changed the design of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   website every couple years no I i am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/453">TS</a>]

00:07:38   sad i don't know i probably came across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   in my post it's a sad thing it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   surprise though and it's again you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   i don't know i'm often uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   talking about the behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   stuff I'm always uncomfortable talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   about the business aspects of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   because I don't think not so much out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   sort of not wanting to talk about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/476">TS</a>]

00:08:01   period but just more that it's navel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   gazing into some ways and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   then people write to me in reg no no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   you know I'm fascinated to hear about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   but it's like I just worry that me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   talking about the behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   stuff is of great interest to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   maybe not so much of interest to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   on the outside but maybe not but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/497">TS</a>]

00:08:22   that's always behind the scenes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   really interesting to I just say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   Jim kept us the members of the deck up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   to date like we've known for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   year that the last year has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   good and you know so it's you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   were a couple people who were worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   that maybe this thing came as a surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   to me or everybody else in the deck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   it wasn't a surprise at all we knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   it might be coming to an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   uh from 6-7 months ago and then Jim let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   us know like and I think it was early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   februari even that hey Mark and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   March is it hmm what I was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:58   is it's there's definitely an interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   in industry of people who are super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   curious about how small or independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:06   publishers operate but as especially as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   a former independent publisher you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   want that to be the most attention you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   get is when you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   yourself right I always want your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   always want your work to get the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   attention and even though it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   sometimes fun and interesting to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   about the operational elements of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   you do and what and what the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   does it definitely feels weird when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   that's where you're getting the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   attention so I understand and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/572">TS</a>]

00:09:36   right i mean podcast is is one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   podcasting is one of the areas where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40   online money is going that's not social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   or Google and it's growing I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   demand for spots on this show is higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   than ever I forget how far ahead were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   sold out but probably too far even and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   that's great yeah well I mean too far in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   the sense of us play to write if you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   in my theory on selling sponsorships if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   you sell too far ahead you've your rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   too low you should raise the rate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05   know the the the calculus of how high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08   the the price per spot is and versus how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/608">TS</a>]

00:10:12   far ahead your sold is you know a tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   business but if you're you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   don't want to sell you certainly don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   want to sell out two years ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   have you know 100 weeks the show's sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   out at the current rate that means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   you know you should have raised the rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   for the ones in the future higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   totally you know yeah it's it's not doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30   and gloom for daring fireball the daring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   fireball company it's just I think a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/633">TS</a>]

00:10:37   day for web advertising period simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   because i think the deck did it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   and what's left is not so good yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:47   what are you going to do just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   leave an empty spot there I guess come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   April first yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   I don't know I've I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   about it a lot I mean I want to do I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   indecisive as do what to do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/659">TS</a>]

00:11:04   you know what I did well I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/664">TS</a>]

00:11:08   recommend the first part of this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09   first thing I did was learn how to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   double-click for publishers which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   Google's ad server try to avoid doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:16   that if you can but back in the day when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   I was running splat F and I had an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   network that did not have a 100-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   fill rate I made a bunch of house ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   that were super minimalist clean ads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   they were actually for amazon affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   links to products i liked so I linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   my favorite pen this pilot ballpoint pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:37   and I linked to some other random stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   probably the new new macbook pro and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/699">TS</a>]

00:11:45   know people bought some pens and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   I sold some books but it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   would have been nicer just to leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   space empty I'd I've thought about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/711">TS</a>]

00:11:55   I mean that is putting you know think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   picking out things from amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   putting a you know using the spot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   promote something like that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03   possibility there was a time when i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   it again my strategy from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:10   was you know maybe the stool analogy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   is a little broken because stools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   usually only have three or three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   legs and the legs have to all be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   same size or the stool isn't it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   balanced but i'll stick with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:25   analogy my theory from the beginning was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   to have you know don't depend on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   source of revenue to run the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   because if something goes wrong with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   you're screwed it's it's healthier to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   think this is just common business sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37   you know it's healthier to have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   revenue streams and at one point like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   years ago in the early days of me going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   full time on during firebolt amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   affiliate revenue was it was never like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   a the highest but it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52   noticeable you know it was wow this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   know this is this is worth doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   terms of how much money it makes per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   month and it would debt and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   bursts around December because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04   i'd be purposefully linked to a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   you know Christmasy type things and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   happens with the but I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   if it works this way anymore but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   least it used to is if you link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   something at amazon with your affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   code you get more if they buy that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/798">TS</a>]

00:13:22   product that you link to but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   else they buy at amazon until they next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/805">TS</a>]

00:13:29   click some other affiliates affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   code you get the affiliate revenue from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   that too and so at Christmas if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:38   was like oh I'll help daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   out i'll click his dis link you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   where I went to say hey but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   parentheses you know that I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   kickback from amazon if you click this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   link blah blah blah you know if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   then did christmas shopping and bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52   other stuff it was occasionally you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   a pretty good amount of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   because it's percentage-based if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   did stuff like buy a macbook it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   lot of money I think it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:06   different now but yeah same idea if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   link to one thing they get you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   whole shopping cart so I think I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   it's great i actually remember linking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   to my wedding registry with I with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/853">TS</a>]

00:14:17   affiliate link so not only did I get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   extra Commission on the gifts people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   were buying me but I could see ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   time what was it wasn't coming pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/863">TS</a>]

00:14:28   good uh I I think I mentioned this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   the show I forget a couple of weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   for somebody I don't remember exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   but the funny part though is if I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   to do that I've got to get in touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   Amazon and reinstate my affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:46   account they just unceremoniously shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   shut my affiliate countdown in October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   yikes all right I remember that it's did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/891">TS</a>]

00:14:56   you ever figure that out no because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   dont i I've been wavering on whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   want to write about it because it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/900">TS</a>]

00:15:06   me it's sort of an interesting story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   on the other hand writing about it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   feels like I'm pulling this special you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:15   know you know it's obviously going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:19   get a lot of publicity if i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   you know look what Amazon did to me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   you know unceremoniously dumped me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:27   still think it's kind of an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   story I've never heard of this before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   for anybody who didn't listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   previous episode here I just looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   the email on october eleventh i got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   email from amazon associates that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   your associates account has come up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   review in connection with our ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40   monitoring of the amazon affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43   program during our review we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   determined that you are not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   compliance with the operating agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   that governs your participation in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   associates program in your associates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   program account has been closed you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:56   not receive further payment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   advertising fees you are not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   compliance because you are encouraging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   customers to bookmark your amazon links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   as opposed to clicking through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   website to reach amazon this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   intent of the associates program section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   7 of the operating agreement states that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   are qualifying purchase occurs when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   customer clicks through a special link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   on your site to the Amazon site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   purchases resulting from clicks through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   bookmark links do not fit this criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   you can find the terms and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24   link to their terms we ask that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   immediately remove all amazon content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   from your site's any other accounts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   have or may open in the future may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   closed and you will not receive any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   advertising fees we reserve all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   rights and claims we have we appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   your understanding in this matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   warmest regards amazon com that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:50   favorite warmest regards there's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   headline right there so the thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   interesting about this is they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   point to anywhere on my site where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   I've you know I've done this you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:01   encourage people to bookmark it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   doesn't say hey on this page you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   you encourage people to bookmark it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   there's no opportunity to edit the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:13   to dissin Kurt you know to remove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   and there's absolutely no recourse here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   there's no if you you know and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   day my Amazon's account was my amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   account was shut down there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   know here's where you go if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   appeal if you want to argue about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:32   just gone and I do know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   things I think it's funny about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   that people think that the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   from apple is capricious in there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:41   know the way they deal with people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   I've never heard of anything like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   weird right yeah that's nuts i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47   actually surprised you haven't through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   they just threw the popularity of you of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   your podcast gotten that resolved by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   yeah i don't know anyway I think I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   what site it was I think I know what web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   page it was it's it's a post I wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:04   December of 2004 I swear God am almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:09   sure this is it because I literally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   ask tell people that they can bookmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   my affiliate code I'll wrote if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   going to purchase holiday gifts at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   amazon and you'd like to support daring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   fireball please consider using these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   links to get to amazon's website after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   clicking you'll proceed that amazon's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   homepage blah blah blah I did it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:31   was like a 12 year old post that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   suddenly I don't know I guess they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   probably had like a spider or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   that found it or an intern yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:40   know I'm amazing yeah but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   but a reason I the other reason I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   take any action immediately is I've in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   recent years stopped really using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   affiliates code because I've been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53   little bit uncomfortable because Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:58   it has since 2004 or whenever I joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   the affiliate program has become a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   less of just a online store and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   more of one of the leading players in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:10   the industry i right about and so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:14   don't know there's all sorts of sites i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   mean the new york times does you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   but the wire cutter which is run you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   know runs on like affiliate links i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   I don't think it's unseemly but I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:28   also just seems to me like it's cleaner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   if I just don't even use the affiliate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   link so I haven't been using it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   recent years and the money I get from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   has been you know at one point it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   like hundreds of dollars a month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   maybe like a couple of thousand around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   the holidays and in recent years it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   just been like I don't know fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   dollars a month or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   yeah it's one thing to say here are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:56   the new kindles and an affiliate link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   and then three minutes later criticized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   the company for a practice of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   one of its HR practices or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   like that so or you know you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:10   if I I don't know if I or if I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   something really good about a book or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   kindle or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   include the code it's it's easier to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:23   that look I'm telling you this is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   because it's good if there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   affiliate code you know and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   saying you know me like I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   to people who included are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   something unethical you know and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   that in the long run you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   wire cutter gets by in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   because it's their long-term reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   it matters if the wire cutter tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   to buy you know a certain blender and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   it's if you get it through an amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   link and they get three dollars from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   their perches and then you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   blender and it's a piece of junk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   know you're the wire cutter suffers from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   that because they're you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   going to trust them in the future the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:05   post I'll put the I have it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   in the show notes already so it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   there it's this amazon debashree I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   know how to pronounce that word but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   used it post from 2004 and among the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   links in the post is the 20 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   ipod you two special edition Wow nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:24   one of the things about writing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   the deck yesterday and thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29   in going back and looking at my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30   posts about you know the early years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   the early years of sponsorships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   advertising on daring fireball is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   really a it was a rabbit hole and I lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   a lot of time rereading 10 year old post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   on my own site but be a lot of them just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   gave me that feeling of holy shit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   been a long time like the you too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:51   drive ipod feels like another era I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:55   not really that's I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   time ago what do you think of that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   red iphone well let's hold that thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   and we'll talk about jitter I talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:06   one of our friends this show is brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   to you by champ now champ software jamf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:13   they've got a product called Jam for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   and it helps you manage your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   devices from anywhere when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   start your business it's pretty easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   keep track of your own computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   phone that's where I am I'm just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   person so it's pretty easy I've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   max and an iphone but as your business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   grows and you start to buy more tech for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   your employees it gets harder to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   track of everyone's max iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   iPads figuring out how to secure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   iPad that your sales rep lost can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   tough especially when you're all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   different locations and a lot of small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   businesses now everybody works remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   jammed now makes that and a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:49   easy you can configure settings protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   sensitive information even lock or wipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   a device from anywhere jammed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   secures your stuff so you can focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   your business no I t expertise needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:04   you don't need to have an IT department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   to manage your devices for a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   company jammed now makes it so anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   can do it talk show listeners can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   securing their business today by setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   up the first three devices for free add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   more for just two bucks a month per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   device two bucks a month per device what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   a great price for absolutely fantastic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:29   bit of management software create your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   free account at jammed jamf calm / the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:36   talk show that's jamf calm / the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:41   show now let's see what the new apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   stuff so we haven't you have any of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   have a red iphone I did get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   briefing up in New York from from some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   fine folks at Apple the 17 inch iPad no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:56   no no there was nothing nothing secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   like that and they did not give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   review unit which I was hoping they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   would not of the 9.7 inch iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07   it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   it's you know I mean I don't I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   too many reviewed and it says you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   mean there's nothing I don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   it I don't use it to get it they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   them there for me to examine and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   and they're fine products but they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   give me a review unit of the red iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   quite nice how's the texture on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   feels to me exactly like the black one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:29   don't have I actually just packed it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   to send backs but the black one I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:37   have the silver or gold but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   about the same i think blindfolded i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   would not be able to tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   between the red one and and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   non jet black I phones hmm I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:53   feel that it would look better with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   black face than the white face and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   wrote that on daring fireball and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   a ton of responses and everybody feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   very strongly about the matter but but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   lot of people feel very strongly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   I'm exactly right and what is wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   Apple are they blind why did when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   make this phone with a black face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   the other half are very strong saying oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   my god no this is beautiful exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   is don't encourage them to to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   thing I've never had a white iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   I don't think I'd ever want one just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   seems like an unnecessary distraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   when you're trying to just see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   screen yeah for me that's exactly how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   feel about a my general rule is when in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   doubt buying anything if there's a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   option get it in black that's just it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:42   just live by that motto I have a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   car just yeah I just caught you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:51   generally buy stuff okay in black but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:55   for that reason every time I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   review unit I phones that are white you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   know white face like with a gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   background or something like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   don't hate it but I do feel that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   distracts because when the screens off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   you can see exactly where the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   like you've got this white thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   then a black thing with in it whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   when the black phone is off it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   black thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:20   it's great if you're trying to watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   video on a dark airplane why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   want a weird white frame around the yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:30   green I it but obviously they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   popular so I mean yeah it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   there's no accounting for taste but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   well I would point that out as a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   year like there's a reason why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   doesn't seem to me like anybody makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   white frame televisions it's it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:45   it's unnecessarily distracting but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   what it is but anyway I think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49   red in particular would look good with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   black front I've also thought though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   I've been saying this for years I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   and again it might just be that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   like black / white anyway but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   that the gold tones would look good with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   a black front sort of a pittsburgh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   steelers look I would definitely buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   silver stuff if it had a black front 2d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:11   whatever it's called these days right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   but i bought the silt the aluminum the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   main silver colored macbook the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   years and it's great with the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   screen frame but if it a white screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   frame no thanks hmm did you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   thing i didn't i didn't bother to do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   homework but there's a thing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:32   obviously it's its product red and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   the proceeds go to help fight AIDS in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   Africa except that in China it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:43   product red product um but it's I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:48   somewhere somebody said that even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   it's not marketed as product read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   Apple still is going to send the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   portion of the proceeds from the red one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   sold in China to product red so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   know what the deal is there I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   might just be I don't know if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   true or not true and if it is true III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   don't know why they don't stamp product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   red on it but I don't know there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   of people who think that the main the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   main target for this phone is China just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   because red is such a popular color in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   China it's the most popular color by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   I can't recall a time when Apple made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:24   something that specific red and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   wasn't a product red co-branded thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   either no I guess the maybe the you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   iPod no because that was before I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34   regret existed everything always all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   product red I think even the ipods yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:42   I think they just do it because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   I don't know what percentage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   money goes to product red but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   it is it's within their whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   want to give you know they want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   that amount to product red anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   know like even little rinky-dink things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   like the red iphone cases our product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:59   red or like that if you buy the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:03   sports strap for your Apple watch that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   red its product red so it must just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   some I don't know if it's a legal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   in China or if it's a marketing thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   China where they feel like marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   wise that wouldn't go over well for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   reason yeah that's interesting I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   know could be could be both what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   did I guess is it's probably ghal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   but yeah maybe that's what i think too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   don't know what China would be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   than every other non-us entity so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   they also a minor minor tweak to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33   iphone SE where they changed it from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   16 or 64 gigabyte storage to your option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:40   to 32 and 128 which an ironic finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:46   yeah no more 16 gigabyte iphones no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:50   16 gigabyte ipads either i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   last there is still you can still buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   16 gigabyte ipod touch but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   anybody buy ipod touches anymore i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:00   some people do for kids but not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:05   siracusa so all right yeah but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   nice that's a nice thing but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   strongly suggests that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:13   they're not going to update the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   SE other than the storage you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:18   think it's the last of the phones at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   that size I tweeted this yesterday which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:25   or maybe the day before I said I miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   mark Gurman but for real like why I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:31   to know why there's no new iPad pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   because that seemed like the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   function of the spring rev psychol down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   and we don't have it just as i was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   to impulse purchase a mid-sized ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   with a pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   I was hoping for an update and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   seems like it's not happening there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   a lot a lot of the supply chain rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   for months I mean dating back to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   August were saying that there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   be and i guess some of them didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   an ipad for a 9.7 inch iPad pro some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   the rumors did say that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   low-cost 9.7 inch iPad coming in March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   but they all said that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   updated 12.9 inch iPad pro coming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:14   March and it just I thought it just made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   common sense like not talking two little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   birdies or anything but just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   Apple is a company of patterns and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   you know they've had March new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   for a while they had marched new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   products this year too and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   seemed like a year old iPad pro and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   year and a half old big ipad pro seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:35   do for updates especially with that pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   name right seems and some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   saying that it's still coming there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   somebody said it's coming in an event in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   April I don't think that that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   happen at all i don't i don't know but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   mean i could be wrong but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   it's coming so maybe at WWDC but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:54   the other spring thing recently has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   that the macbook the 12 inch macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   which yeah doesn't seem to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   update to spring either so yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   you know it seems like there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   of products that could be updated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   they aren't in the you know oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:11   let's how old is the mac pro type era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   just you know products that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   Apple still you know cares very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   about seemed to for an update but do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   they are not like if you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   market for an iPad pro right now what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   you do I'm waiting I'm I refused to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27   something oh I don't know last night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   almost bought one but i think i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   wait i think so too unless yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   going to be a whole nother year you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   right it's not like i really need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   right it's like a impulse purchase if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:42   anything yeah yeah i'm gonna hold off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   because whether they change the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:49   of it or not you know all those rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   of the 10 whatever inch sting yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:56   seems like it's probably not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   a an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   extra year so I might as well hold off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   for whatever sort of speed bumps they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   put into it ma'am I don't know I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   hard to say I don't know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   all of the rumors are coming from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   supply chain and I do feel like if I who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:14   knows where gurman sources have been but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   it seems like in years past gurman had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   sources from somehow not just from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:23   supply chain you know and the supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27   chain once get all the product marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   wrong because they don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30   you know all they know is somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   know somebody at a sharp display factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:36   in you know in China talks to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:41   ming-chi kuo and tells him hey Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   buying a ton of these 10.5 inch LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   panels you know go from there but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:50   don't know anything about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   product is for or anything like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   it's obvious in hindsight that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   don't know when now the products are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   coming out either at these know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   favorite one of all time which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   the the naming the iphone math I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:08   which I I guess in hindsight was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   was the iphone 6 plus yeah but they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   the plus the plus name right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   iphone man oh i never i think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   everyone said well i think about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   just laughed my ass off walking down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   street the phone man i never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   about it it that that's what they saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   the plus symbol and who knows maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   was like a language thing to wear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   Chinese or whatever language in Asia you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:39   know if it was Korean or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   there's some kind of translation from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   Asian language to English where plus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:47   number and a plus sign got turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   my math it's just the best I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:55   what to do I people often ask me I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   feel like almost every product except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   the iphone is getting harder and harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   to predict when the hell Apple's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   to come out with updates do you use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:09   iPad pro for anything right now no I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:13   I never bought one and I've packed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   the ones you know I've returned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   review units that I've had yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   regretted it and then I thought I named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   my thinking was I don't really use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   iPad a lot so that's an apple device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   that I only buy one every couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   like my iPad i'm using right now is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   ipad mini and I don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:36   model it is it's fairly recent no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:40   it's not that reason I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   an ipad mini from a couple years ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   I'm due to get a new one I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   done with the ipad mini size I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   want the 9.7 inch size just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:54   like having everything bigger it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   the years since i've had this many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   the years were i'm starting to need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   know bigger stuff to be able to read but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:03   i don't want to buy now and i don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   an ipad enough to be tempted at all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   buy before they come out with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09   ones yeah same it is a is i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:14   there's a good move and an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   move that they went to move the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   down as opposed to maxing out any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   of specs on this new well i think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   vision yeah it makes makes total sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   again it's it's clear that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   places they need to go with the ipad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   they need lower prices and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   this product is all about and they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   to keep pushing the pro capabilities at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   the high end you know because it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   from a this is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   three-hundred-dollar thing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   classroom full of kids in elementary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   school to or any coffee shop with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   square reader which is you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   right like just to put like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   everyone i go into now they're using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52   actual ipad as the point of sale stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   yeah and it's you know there are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:37:00   three hundred dollars it's super easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   that's you know it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   every place I go into that uses them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   a reader it they work very well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   there fast you know so it's but in cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:13   like that yeah price is a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   difference then power I think they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:18   good job to of figuring out what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   things that are pro and which of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   things that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   if there's anything I'm a little bit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   got like I'm not surprised at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   it doesn't support the pencil because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   the pencil I can only imagine that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   support inside the ipad for the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   is relatively expensive you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   it's not like super cheap and the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   itself isn't cheap and so like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44   think schools for example elementary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   schools that are so you know price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   sensitive and we're hearing so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   they're super you know they're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51   price sensitive than ever they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   going to buy Apple pencils for the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   because they're surely they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   get lost snapped you know maybe the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:01   know stolen who knows so I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   pencil sleep that for pro I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   could you can use a dumb stylus with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   regular ipad if you need to write my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   only regret my biggest regret for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   having an iPad pro right now myself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   the new app from the icon factory line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   Nia which is a very cool drawing app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:21   we and it works just fine as best as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   possibly could on a non-pro iPad using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   these big finger tip shape styluses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   I have but clearly it is meant for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:34   pencil because it's a very very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   drawing app and I don't really like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   an illustrator but it's it's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   drawing app that I've seen to date for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   the ipad and so just as like a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   interface nerd i like playing with it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   see what they've done but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:52   clear it you know it's clearly i'm only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   getting half the experience by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   having an apple pencil right now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:39:01   a thing that i saw our where Apple told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   me about it really that I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   link to it but there's a logitech case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   that Apple is promoting especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   education with this new iPad and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   sort of you can see why Apple wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   make it himself it's it's thick in it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   it's in terms of like it it goes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:24   it's both a case around the iPad itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   and it's more like one of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   gorilla cases or whatever they call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29   where it's like a rugged and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:33   really quite thick but it also it plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   into the Lightning port so it just wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   around sort of like a battery case maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   it might even be a battery I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   know might but it definitely plugs in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   the Lightning port and then it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   keyboard there's two versions there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   one that's just a rugged case and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   there's one with a physical keyboard so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   you can prop it up like a laptop and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   reason why it plugs in the Lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56   port is that for standardized tests in K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:01   through 12 it's the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   computerized have to be done with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   keyboard that has a physical connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   to the computing device you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   allowed to take it the standardized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   tests do not allow the use of Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   keyboards or mice huh I presumably for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:20   like cheating type thing like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:24   allowed I guess it's I guess the idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   that when the when the device is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   testing mode it is not allowed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   any wireless io which I guess makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:37   amount of sense just you know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41   quite sure how they enforce it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   software but that's the idea it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   dumb we used to beam Palm Pilot answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   to each other in high school so you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   out of the car had a dumb idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   definitely was ahead of the curve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   teacher had no idea what what that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   was but it's interesting and I asked so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2455">TS</a>]

00:41:02   the smart connector counts as a wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   connection so if you wanted to you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   use an iPad pro and the smart keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   through the smart connector that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   count that's not wireless because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   electricity flowing through a connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   but it's the I you know the ipad pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:20   and the expensive keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   everything is way outside the budget for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   for elementary schools but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   that was interesting that they can't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27   bluetooth so I guess I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   surprised that the cheaper iPad this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   one doesn't have the smarts connector I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   can see why I didn't have the pencil I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   a little surprised it doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   smarts connector but maybe the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   connector adds enough to the cost that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   it really you know that to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   way down to 3 29 you really do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   make hard decisions like that yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   interesting and obviously the screen not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   ty reflective coating on it and yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:55   it doesn't have the lamination of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   display to the glass so there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   very narrow air gap between the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:05   it just looks like that the pixels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   slightly lower they are in fact slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   further away from the surface of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   glass than they are on the like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   air to the ipad pro and all the iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   from recent years but on a device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   big i saw one last week it doesn't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   not very noticeable I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   you know I guess I could do it side by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   side but it just if you just gave me one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   iPad and asked me to guess I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   if I could see it oh it's new to mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:36   has some I think some permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:40   fingerprints on it at this point even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   with the anti-reflective so I've told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:47   this story before but III it's one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51   favorites so one of the two times that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   met Steve Jobs personally was after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:59   keynote when they announced the iphone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   which was the first retina iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   the first one where the screen was fused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   to the glass and it's the hands-on area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   it was on the side hallway beside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   big keynote area in Moscone and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   just hanging around and I got to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   Scott Forstall and he did I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   talked to him before and he obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   knew who I was and he said he read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   know Reed's daring fireball likes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   it was very complimented we had a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   little discussion and Katie cotton was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:35   talking to me then and then she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   would you like to meet Steve and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   I just said has anybody ever said no to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   that and she laughed and said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   actually nobody has ever said no to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45   and I said sure so she walked me over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   and introduced me and I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   she was talking with with steve jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   forestall and he asked what I thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:55   the phone I said it was beautiful I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   been waiting for retina screens forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:00   you know high resolution screens we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   talked about other I don't know prob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   about five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:05   felt like just rushed right by but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   said like about the lamination and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   quite a question about that and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   all the details he knew exactly how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   worked he's now in fact he said they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   to you know they they they had to invent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   the machines to do it there was no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   no no factory in China could do it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   they invented their own machines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   filled the factory in Foxconn with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:26   apple and vented machines to do it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   said so but those so there's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   no air gap anymore it's impossible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   like a piece of dust to get between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   screen and the glass and he said nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38   it's absolutely impossible and so I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   out my personal 3gs and I said so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   can't get like like this and I showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   him the piece of dust they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   talking yeah that was sort of like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   right right in the center of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   horizontally or yeah horizontally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   about about two inches up from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   bottom and he laughed and he said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   that can't happen again but I that's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   I love that I got to show Steve Jobs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01   piece of dust yeah in my iphone nice a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:06   good use of a rare opportunity what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:14   did they have they had the was there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   more hardware I think you know they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   that they had the app with rice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   interesting and to me this the app is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23   sign that there's not an event coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   before WWDC because that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   thing that seemed like it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   been Dems phul for a live demo demo a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   ball totally demo yeah and in fact in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   the briefing that I had by far and away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   the overall majority of the time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   talking about clips and demoing clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   and going through a sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   here's how you use it type thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   is it out now because it's now three it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   is coming out and quote unquote April oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   it was funny so they said it would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   know it requires 10 3 and I asked if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   that meant is it going to come out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:02   same day 10.3 comes out because that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   know they didn't have an announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   date for 10.3 and it is so typical apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   where the answer was it it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:13   it's coming out they said to me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   coming out in April and requires iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   10.3 and I said does that mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   going to come out the same day 10.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   comes out and their answer was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   coming out in April and it requires iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   10.3 amazing you've had those answers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:29   write or layers and and when they repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   the answer once and they do it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   don't do it like you're a moron they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   don't they don't do it as though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   haven't told you that before they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   do it with a please take a hint that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   this is all I can't I'm not going to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   can't give you a yes or no so I took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:49   to mean that maybe it was going to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   then maybe that's what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   shooting for but I think what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   they did know it wasn't coming out till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   April already and I think I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   last Wednesday I forget what day but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:02   was last week they did know that Clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:06   wasn't coming out till April and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   that maybe what happened is that 10.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   was ready first and they didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   hold it back I don't think they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   holding back iOS updates because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   security stuff in them that when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   when they get the go-ahead from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   testing people that hey this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   ready to ship they ship it but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:26   think it's a great app I know that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   first there was sort of it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   some of the initial out reaction on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   Twitter was sort of a 0 apple's piling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   on this me to a snapchat snapchat / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:40   Instagram / every single product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   facebook-owned stories sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   multimedia posting things and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:52   there's some part of that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   obviously there because Apple emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   is emphasizing that you can share these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   they're just videos and you can share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   them to any service you want but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:04   not they're not making their own social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   network to do it has nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   the networking it has just to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   the creation of this new sort of hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   media format and I find it fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   and I in the time I got to play with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   I was super impressed with the app it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   to me saw it is the software equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:26   of air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   we're hardware-wise air pods are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   favorite new apple product in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   time and and to me is Apple at its best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   I think clips is the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   software sure it's just a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   it's not like a major you know a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:44   major new thing in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   hate they're just headphones right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   sure it's just a little way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   little animated movies but it's so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:53   done like I described it on Twitter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   worked on this tweet for a while but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   described it as it's as though keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   and I movie had a baby and the kid got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   all the best genes from both parents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   if you want to look at a deeper and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:09   strategically it's also you know the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   of the first if not the first augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14   reality software tools from Apple yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   in a sense yeah if you believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:21   are building a our glasses and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   new iphone might have some AR features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   in it seems pretty obvious to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   shipping that kind of stuff well I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   it kind of is an AR feature I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   it does it definitely but it is it AR I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:42   don't know if it qualifies but like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   example if I whoo AAR is kind of a murky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   thing to define right like you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   some senses Pokemon go as they are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   in others it's not really just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   a game so right in some sense I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:56   feel yeah like let's not worry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   what what is it is not augmented reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   and it's it in a capital a capital R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04   sense but instead just think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   ways that these devices with especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11   the camera but other other send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   microphone camera and microphone are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   obviously the two main inputs but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   sensors as well are aware of their where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:20   they are and how they're being used and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21   so the example with clips is if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   shooting you and I'm putting you in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   clip it does real-time facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   recognition and knows that you're that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   dan frommer is in the clip and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   already there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   and I I forget exactly how that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   into play I know one way that it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   into play is when I'm done making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   clip it and I go to share it it'll if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   knows that you were in the clip it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   suggest sending it to you that's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   all right there might be other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:52   too though that you can do within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   clip to somehow get you labeled or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   something like that you know my number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:59   one feature request from the internet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   still the feed of photos that I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   background of yeah taken by all random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   people yeah some some somewhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   exists that just hasn't been turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   yet that's called the NSA yeah okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   yes but some somebody's going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19   public version of that and it it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   weird but you know no I remember reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:26   a story it just it's sort of a tangent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   but I remember seeing reading a story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   Wired magazine i'm going to say ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   years ago but i don't even know if i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   still reading wired ten years ago so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   might have been 15 or 20 years ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   somebody was writing about as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:43   municipalities and cities put cameras at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   intersections and stuff like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   know and that there's video monitoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   of public spaces that the right way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   did you know that it's right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   everybody to be concerned about privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   and and access to the footage but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:01   way to deal with it isn't to lock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   down super tight and only allow like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   police to see it and the way to do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   to make them public so that if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   you know if there's a traffic camera at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   15th and locust and the police can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   the footage of it everybody should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   able to get the footage of it over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   internet because if I was standing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   I could see what's going on at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   corner so if there's a camera there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   it's a publicly owned camera why can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   get the footage of the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   there's some sense to that to me but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:32   know i i'm not saying i completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   with it but i can see the logic behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   it and I can sort of see the logic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   look if some entities are collecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   background information about who's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   all these pictures that are being posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   to Twitter maybe everybody should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   that information if the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   if if it's a public picture right if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   picture has been posted to Twitter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   there why not but notify me of it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:56   not sure about them anyway clips yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   think clips is pretty exciting yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   pumped for that one that should be cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   but that's the kind of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   know I I guess that if there was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   to be a a time to show that publicly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:11   give a 10-15 minute demo of it he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   downstate more desirable yeah it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   be on stage and be more desirable than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   you know whatever however many places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   were pre briefed and and got to well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24   yeah because it's hard cuz even even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   they have exciting new like like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:30   all right it's just a red iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   really I mean you know it's the red is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   nice but it's not really demo bowl on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   stage like ultimately it's the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   thing you really need to see in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   everybody needs to go to a store and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   it to really appreciate it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   know it's going to look good in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   product photography so the quit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   the real question for anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   actually think about buying one is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   does it look like in person so showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:51   it on stage doesn't really help iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   se has more storage with that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   demo that that's that is at best one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   slide and what seven seconds of stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   time software like clips is what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   need to actually fill a presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   which also says it there's too much at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:10   WWDC to save that for maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:14   or maybe they just one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:15   where it's ready to go and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   get it out you know yeah they one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   things that worked well for me at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   in my brief demo time in admittedly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24   you know enclosed environment so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   wasn't lots of public noise or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   like that but the way that you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32   speak when you can set you doesn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   all the time but you can turn on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   title style and while the title style is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   on it will you speak to the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   what you're saying turns into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   animated titles oh cool it works very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:47   well and it it does it in a depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:52   the style i think but at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   certain of the styles the words only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   appear as you speak them so and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:55:01   the things that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   super cognizant of and it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   designed for is that yeah these videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:10   they have sound and they even have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   these cool music soundtracks you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   with them but that the assumption is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   that in many contexts they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   be played with the sound off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   people are at work or they're in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   and nobody nobody likes a video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   auto plays would sound and so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   they I think they put so much emphasis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   on these titles but it's really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   cool the way that the titles sync up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   with the words you're saying as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   saying them and it seems like the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   of thing that would take a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   fiddling with in the software to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:45   you don't you just stayed you just turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   on the title and as you're holding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48   button it happens automatically you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the result as you get effect that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   like it took a lot of precision editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   and instead you got it automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   that's that's cool that sounds a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:03   close to magic as we can get these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04   almost yeah I think maybe the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   most appellee thing about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   among the soundtracks that that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12   commissioned they number one they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   commissioned a whole bunch of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   soundtracks of different styles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   they've had the artists who make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   make them in a whole bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   lengths so the same song if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:26   just a little for second clip there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   version of it that that maybe isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:32   recorded as exactly four seconds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   there's a version for hey what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   clip is only like three to five seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   long we'll use this one and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   beginning and an end that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   but if you have a 30-second clip it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   the same song but it's it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   version that is meant to be roughly 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   seconds long but the part that super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51   Apple II is that they have ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   that were created by Hans Zimmer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:56   actually paid Hans Zimmer to do some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   these like every other tech company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:02   the world I think would have might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   hired somebody like you know sondheimer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   you know make us something that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   like a Hans Zimmer song and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   Apple went and paid Hans Zimmer to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   it's pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   did you get a sense it's mostly for tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   screen video for mobile video or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   also for uploading YouTube and stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   is in fact the app only works when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:29   you're holding it tall screen and app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   does not rotate but the format is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:36   old-school Instagram it is only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   always square oh wow and it is intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:43   for consumption on mobile first and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:49   I asked about this is great that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52   asked because it was one of my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:53   questions if you import so anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   shoot wire in Clips is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   automatically square if you import from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   your library a a photo or a video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:07   you shot in a you know rectangular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   format it crops to a square but you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:13   to pan and scan within it to where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   want it and if it's a video you can it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   not just like you pick the square and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   the whole thing you can change it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   video plays like which which portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   it appears in the square that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   mean about it being a very you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   a keynote / iMovie asked caliber app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:32   like every little thing like that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   could think of during the demo they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   like yes it already does that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   thought I had them pegged on a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   bunch of these things I thought oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41   what happens if the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   video the center is the best part but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   the end of the video the best parts over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   on the right they've it handles that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:50   so the idea the idea is they said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   is one of the things they said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   going with square is that on mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   square always looks good and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3536">TS</a>]

00:59:00   they've noticed is that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   in their observations even when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:06   watching 16 29 horizontal video on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:10   phone if it's a short clip they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:13   even bother rotating the phone they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   watch it tiny and centered in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:18   phone as its held tall because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22   much more comfortable to hold your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   tall than to hold it sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   yeah I definitely do that what sense do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:31   you get on why they made something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   this it seems kind of you know used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   make stuff like this like photo booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   and on the Mac because there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40   camera on the front of the ACT book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   you needed something to do with it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   things like they do this less often now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   I do think so and I think that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   so that's why it makes me so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   because I do think that making creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   tools is what Apple does best and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   think it's a sense I you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   they generally apple doesn't generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   like to explain the why behind a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   things but I just think it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05   they could and they knew that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   do a good job I think they saw an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   opportunist aw this I guess they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   did say was that they could kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   that this hybrid format is becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   new thing you know that it's I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   meta level above a video or a still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:25   photo or even just a still photo with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:29   like a static annotation over it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   know how like you can make in mail now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   like if I paste an image in mail I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   edit the hit click the little toolbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   and draw like an arrow or circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   something on the image that that that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:46   sort of combination between a video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   an annotated image is becoming the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   format and that they could make a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   that that does it better and it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   does it does also all the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   think you could do like when you drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:03   out a thought bubble or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   that you can pinch it to scale it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   can to finger twist it to rotate it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:13   can drag it anywhere you want on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   canvas everything you think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   be able to do to the little things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   dragged out and put on the on the canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   you can do so it's I know and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:25   some of it is we know how to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   already right like the end result is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   is a format that's sort of new but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:33   the little things you can do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   Apple already had some of the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   to do it it's interesting though with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:42   the square aspect ratio because then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:46   don't know if you can make much use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49   this uploading to an Instagram stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   or snapchat or something like that so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   is not super useful for that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:59   well I wonder though maybe what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   will do with them though is upgrade them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   to as a regular Instagram post true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05   which I'm doing less up now because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:08   the stories so maybe that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:11   useful yeah i don't know i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:14   know if I've ever even posted an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:15   Instagram story I don't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   make of it with instagram stories you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:20   love it I think it's great but I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   why people don't do it too but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   instagram stories correct me if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   wrong you can't pick from your library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   you've got to create a new thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   now on the fly now you can use anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   from the last 24 hours that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   something they did differently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   snapchat snapchat won't let you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   not let you pick from the library now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   you kind of can but it's not super great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   so if i make a clip and save it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   library i could upgrade upload it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   Instagram story yes yeah I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   might do that I really do because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   think that it's a richer editing tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   it's it's it's got it'll be it'll zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:57   in then because Instagram stories will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   take up the full 16 by 9 vertical frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   oh I wonder if it'll zoom in or Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   will just crop it or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   letterbox it it will zoom in yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:11   well at least that's what does with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:12   still photos I have not actually tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   it with a square video well I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17   will zoom in hmm well I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:21   some people who do like some more I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   noticed some people I think using either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   iMovie or Final Cut to make crazy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:29   know effects in their Instagram stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   and then popping it in there obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34   using tools you couldn't use in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35   native Instagram amount but most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   obviously don't do that most people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   using the Instagram tools well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   know again I'm not a story user so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   I'm the wrong person to judge it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   would think that if you take the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:47   use clips which is a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   effort than just whipping it out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   know just doing it live in the instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   app if you're going to take the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   use Clips you probably want to post it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56   as a regular post anyway not have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   disappear yeah that makes sense I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:02   know I am really excited about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   just think it from what I saw it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   really really well done it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   just that the features are well done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   even the the user experience I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:16   know what you call it but the the layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   of the app is very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   thoughtfully done again a weight in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   the best sort of structure to the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:29   user interface which is that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   most people will never even think wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   this has a really nice interface because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   it's just so obvious you know like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   when you do it right it it it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:40   disappears all it is is just two layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   it's like at the root level there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45   a horizontal stream of your clips that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   you've already made so you can select a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   clip that you're like halfway through me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   a clip meaning a project right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   can select one that you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   already made and it opens back up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   and then that's that's the only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   layers there's one for choosing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   you tap one or make add the + button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   create a new one and you're in the clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   editor and within the clips editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   there's only just a few things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   do and you'd it's there's no way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   lost you know like one of it I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17   like apps like Instagram like instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18   has broken all the rules of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   Instagram is by adding all these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   features right like when you swipe from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   the left to go to the thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   edit your stories or whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   that is like where are you in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   spatially your it's just something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   made up there's no on-screen indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:38   of where you are like as opposed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:39   old Instagram where you were always in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   one of the five tabs at the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   the screen well actually if you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:47   now there's a little slider that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   suggested you're going toward the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   there's a little slider thing but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:56   I kind of get what you're going it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   definitely borrowed a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   navigational concept from snapchat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   was very confusing at first but now well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:06   and the other one too is you can slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07   to the other side too and you're in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   direct messages and I know what you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   I see what you mean that there's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   looking at it right now they yes I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   the little indicator that it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15   there but an Instagram to me is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   than a better than snapchat I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   snapchat feels like a fever dream to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   i mean i honest to god feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   losing my mind when I a just try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:27   understand the app and be trying to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   to understand how it's fabulously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   popular right it really does make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:36   feel like I'm losing my goddamn mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   whereas Instagram was always I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:41   right from the first day that it shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   I was like oh I love the design of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   app I get it and and my design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:48   sensibilities are sympathetic with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   people who designed this even now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   they've added these things I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   that the people who design Instagram are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   of a like mind to me but I still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:01   like it's kind of confusing yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:05   the other thing that I saw along these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   same lines is I did see some day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   criticism from people on Twitter of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   is this a separate app why didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   just make this part of the camera app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14   and I think that that's that what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   talking about is exactly why I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   Apple did not do that I think the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22   app already kind of has a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   going on and this is very different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:28   like the camera app is all about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29   one shot either a still or a video clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   and clips is all about making editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   multiple clips together into a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   like I I feel like separating it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   its own second app is exactly the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43   thing for Apple to do and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   exactly why iOS is so much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48   cluttered than the Mac I mean that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   why don't you put it in the Apple in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   same app is exactly how i tunes got from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:55   a simple music right i was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   these are the same people who are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   wasn't talking about itunes bloat maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   there was a time when itunes was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   the perfect example of an app that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:06   one thing really well i really was okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   instead of having a giant folder full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   mp3's just throw them all into itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   it'll sort them all out and you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   nice little music library that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   organized by artist by album and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:26   other feature they added like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   visualizers and stuff was at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   related to music playback and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   know i always do whenever you think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   why not add that to the camera app just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   think that that's how camera app turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   into itunes and five years plus if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:42   extends to new sensors like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:46   our facial stuff or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   may not want in the main camera app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:50   either no so anyway I think clips is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:54   gonna be pretty popular but it's not out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:55   yet so I guess we should stop talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   about it alright done let me take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4137">TS</a>]

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01:09:36   seven different types of mattresses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   choose from all you should have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41   choose the size of bed you have and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   get a good mattress that's it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   the way Casper works you pick a size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   there's only one style they ship it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   you in a crazy small box at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   crazily small compared to the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   mattress that it is you open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59   according to their instructions take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   up to your bedroom first don't open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   downstairs take it to the bedroom open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   it up in there it sucks all the air out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   of the room so be careful you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:09   hold your breath while it while it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   then Shh you've got a full size mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4211">TS</a>]

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01:10:16   mattress I've talked to I've convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   family members to buy these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20   everybody's like wow that is an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   mattress I mean it's it's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   probably like the one product that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   Hawk here on the talk show that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   actually gotten the most people that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   know personally to buy it really is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:35   is such an easier way to buy a mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:36   and it is a great mattress I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   everybody I've personally convinced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   buy one loves it even if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:45   though what they have is a hundred night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   home trial so you have a hundred days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   after you get it and if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   it you call them up and they just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   send somebody to pick it up at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   house get it out of your house and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4254">TS</a>]

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01:10:57   asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:58   that's how confident they are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   quality of mattress so go to casper calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4260">TS</a>]

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01:11:09   next mattress only downside to that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   is it doesn't work on their dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   mattresses because the dog mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14   already costs so little but I'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4274">TS</a>]

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01:11:18   need a mattress for your dog get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   Casper your dog will love it I I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   talking about this but everybody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   dogs who listens to the show is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4284">TS</a>]

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01:11:28   get up from it so there you go my thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   to Casper Oh what else we have to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:34   about this week damn I got to get R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35   Alfred one of those dog beds you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   hello I'd you I just got him one one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   these wacky ones that that they crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   into and it's like FML most a sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46   bag he's not into it he thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:49   ridiculous so uh what else check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:54   what we should talk about the samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   thing I think if ya of interesting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   so I think it was yesterday I wrote up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   yeah yesterday the I did you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:03   actually forgot that the event was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   yesterday which I was I was invited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   it I forgot to put in my calendar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10   would have totally gone and checked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   out in person so whoops and also we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:16   probably lost a lot of traffic on recode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   because I didn't write up a preview for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   it but it looks like the it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   it was pretty much solely focused on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   new galaxy s eight I think it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   which usually is the phone they show off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   in February at Mobile World Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   it's Samsung's big phone especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:36   important this year because their last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   big phone which was the note 7 was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:43   one that was catching on fire so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:46   know not not only was this an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   flagship phone for them but also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   a back from the dead moment also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   have all kinds of weird corporate shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   going on that's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   [Laughter] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   the only go anyway the only company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   things that think Samsung's had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   run in the last year is probably Ober [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   yeah those lucky s ovies but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:12   Samsung's had people going to jail or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   least getting a criminally investigated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:17   for bribery scandals they the the note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:20   s7 thing is is I've seen it in several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:23   cases and everybody and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   worst part if your Samsung is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   single article about the s8 mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   that six months ago they had to recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   their last flagship phone because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:32   were exploding and so it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:37   lot riding on this yeah I have not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:41   it in person but people who study these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:45   things really like it you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   still for me the biggest problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50   it's running Android so I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   use it yeah and not just Android but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   Samsung's like corrupted version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   Android do you know and now that gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4436">TS</a>]

01:14:00   a now that becomes even more problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   as here they have their own their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   version of Google assistant called Bixby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:09   yeah which is a strange name but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:14   people are saying the hardware it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:15   nice and so I wrote a post yesterday on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:20   recode basically pointing out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   here we are again where Apple is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:25   behind the industrial design kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   trend with phones again you know last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   time I would say last time I was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   important last time as when it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   Apple I think a year or two probably too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   long to see that people were really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41   big phones that's more of a functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   design thing than than cosmetic but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:48   we're at a phase where you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   theoretically has a new phone coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   this fall that's going to look more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   these newer ones with no bezel and edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:58   to edge screen but maybe not maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:02   know I don't know what if something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   happens and it doesn't happen and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05   here we are where they are six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   behind maybe a year and a half behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   the trend now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12   and is that it is that a huge problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:16   probably not in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:17   things but if I'm I mean if I'm Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:22   want to be ahead I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   coming from behind all the time so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   don't think it's great whether it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   affect sales or not which is ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:31   i think what matters it probably i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:34   it probably won't but i think at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   personal level Apple wants to unveil if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:40   everybody all the rumors seem to suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:43   that this is the year when there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   to be a new iphone that looks instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   before you even turn the screen on looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   like a new iphone not just a new color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   but it's you know a new form factor with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:55   some you know quote unquote edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   display and I think Apple when they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:03   a product like that to unveil in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   particular the most important product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   the company and the most popular product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   in the company they want the biggest wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:13   factor as possible during the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   when they do the unveil and I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:20   but think that you're right that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   samsung galaxy s 8 in particular I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   there are other android phones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   creeping closer to an edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   design and have smaller chins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   foreheads and use curved OLEDs to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   the display closer to the sides but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:38   seems like the one that is closest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   general principle to the vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   descriptions we've heard of what Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:44   doing I don't know what will ship in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   volume I mean yeah I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   saw the tweet from andy rubin who Alfred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   most people should know Andy Rubin but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   he created this the sidekick and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   Android and ran it obviously ran Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:01   for a long time now he's working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   new handset company supposedly i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:05   it's called essential or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:06   that and he tweeted a couple days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   this thing that was basically a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12   a fake spy shot of an edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   android phone and said you can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17   for everyone to get their hands on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   and then yesterday Eric Schmidt tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:21   and you know looks looks nice i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24   seen it in person i don't know how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   it works but looks damn good and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   xiaomi had one too but the samsung ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   the is the first one that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:32   ship in volume you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   approaching volume of an iphone so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   think it's a bummer to be able to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:41   able to be the first to make a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   a really truly impressive industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46   design these days but who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   Apple has something that will even next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   to this you know look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:54   next-generation thing you know no but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:57   can't I early possible but I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   but think that that's that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   getting beaten to the punch in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   at least and i think is I got I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   little pushback on that but I second day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   I hold I hope pretty strong to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   think that no I'll got I'm just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   I think it you know I dunno who knows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:19   think one of the areas you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:20   race to bigger iphones apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:23   obviously caught flat because they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:27   think that they really didn't foresee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   that that bigger significantly bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:32   screens were going to be popular I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33   really don't think I really do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   they got caught by surprise by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   whether that kind of by accident too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   didn't-didn't android phones have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   bigger because they couldn't get the was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   at the battery or the LTE or sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   like that beats my theory my theory was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   that that android phones to keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   the performance of iphones had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   bigger um but turned out people liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:56   him and i love it i'm a 7 plus guy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4736">TS</a>]

01:19:00   regrets right but but i think apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:03   clearly got caught flat on that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   i think bigger a bigger android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07   started getting popular around 2011 an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   apple didn't come out with one until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   2014 and we even learned from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:15   lawsuit I figured if the email came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   Schiller or just somebody in chillers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   product marketing group but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21   you know an email that was entered into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   evidence from Apple product marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   that you know the public wants what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:30   don't have bigger phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   and you know the success of the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36   se you know which sold in greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   quantity than Apple expected they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40   said that entering a quarterly report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43   last year like three months after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:44   iphone SE came out that they were having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:45   trouble King me about demand because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   was more popular that's not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   everybody likes big phones people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:50   small phones too they like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53   know it's a Goldilocks type thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   know small medium large if people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   different tastes but I think in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4797">TS</a>]

01:20:02   case they're not caught flat they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   clearly been working towards reducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   the bezel size on their devices every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   step of the way you know the iPads used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   to have the thick bezel around all four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12   sides and years ago reduce the bezel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:16   the side the side bezels on this side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:19   the iphone have gotten closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   edge over the years so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:25   it's they just I don't think they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   caught flat I just think they got beaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28   to the market and I think part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:31   because the Apple can't make like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   Samsung has a bit of an advantage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35   terms of being aggressive with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:39   designs because they don't Bank on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   one phone per year as being the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:44   design they you know come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   note 7 and notes in the fall and come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   out with the Galaxy S models in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:52   spring and then whatever 200 other right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:56   and when models in between when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58   first came out with the edge they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:00   called it the edge that whatever Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   Galaxy edge i think was might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   the full name of the device it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   the only one there was a sibling to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:09   with very similar specs that came out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   the same time that didn't have the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   to edge and I guess sold for less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   but that way they didn't have to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   with as many of the presumably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:20   expensive harder to make flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23   displays to do the edge thing to account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:27   for all of their sales whereas whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   Apple's coming up with if it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   to be the flagship iPhone they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:34   be able to make 70 million of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   the first quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   which I'm not really into that edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   thing anyway I always found that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   obnoxious but so I be interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:46   how much curvature to the display Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:49   ends up going with if they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   similar to that yeah and what they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   it for like are they going to use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   content or is it going to light up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   other colors sort of just to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   like you know like I could see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   doing it where it goes black while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04   you're using email and only the flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:07   part is lit up with your email but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:10   you go to your home screen maybe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:11   wallpaper goes edge to edge or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   like that and if you remember Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   actually started off trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   people to use it almost as a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   screen like to have more information on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22   it but I I would have guessed no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   developers actually ended up supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   that for anything worthwhile so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:29   of gave up on that it seems yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   then you know filed under the we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   actually don't have even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   speculative rumors we don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   a lot of information about the apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   next iphone other than the supply chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41   stuff that they're they're asking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:44   lot of these flexible OLED displays but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:48   what they're actually going to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   for nobody knows so who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:51   they'll replace you know the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   buttons with virtual bought buns I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:57   of dread that I but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   i'm totally on team it took me a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:03   to convince myself that i'm a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   present on the team but I am after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:08   six months I'm on Team virtual home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   button you know the button it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   actually move on the iphone 7 so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:16   know with some kind of proper haptics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   could see maybe switching to virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   volume buttons I don't know I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   virtual home button but I also like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   fact that it is depressed little there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   and then you have it a border to press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30   on so I don't know I don't know how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:31   works on a bigger all right the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   Samsung does have that virtual it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   virtual yeah buttons no on the at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:39   on the lower side there is a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:40   button for the assistant which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   you know it here's an idea that occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   to me is you know how you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:47   click the volume buttons to snap a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   on the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50   and that used to be like a hack like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   there were third-party camera apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   the App Store that did it before apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   built-in camera app did and an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5036">TS</a>]

01:24:00   like kicked him out because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   allowed you're only supposed to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:03   volume buttons for volume and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   like well maybe that's a good idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   they added it to the actual system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:08   camera oh I use it all the time okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:12   they're not in a great location for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   snapping pictures like sometimes you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   want a button that's not where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18   on-screen button is you want it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:19   side where you really want it is top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   right when you're holding the phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   the camera lens at the top left yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   accidentally turned the power off at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   least half the time right because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   trying to do this yeah which is horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   and possibly disastrous if you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   to capture like a fleeting moment so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   in theory if Apple has a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   that wraps around the edge they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   when you're in the camera mode they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   could make a virtual button at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   right or just the whole phone I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:49   penalty for shooting too many photos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:52   pretty low right and just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   delete them right and give you haptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:55   feedback for when you actually snap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   photo yeah interesting yeah that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00   be kind of cool oh let me tell you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:03   of my favorite things in Clips was let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:06   say you string together 33 pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:09   video in a clip and there's that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10   time line at the bottom that shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   the thumbnails so if you force touch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   like the middle one it pops up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   can drag it to reorder them and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:20   pops up it get like this beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21   little subtle pop hmm it is super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:25   terrific and subtle use of haptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   feedback I've noticed uh several app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:32   makers trying to tap into that recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   in fact I think Twitter just added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   haptics when you star a tweet hmm when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:41   you when you fave it sweet which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:42   called faving anymore no it's all only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:46   works it is always favored in my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   it's still it doesn't work most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:51   time it works sometimes and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:54   the time it just doesn't pop the taptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   engine so I don't know but it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:00   justing to see a lot of pull to refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   haptics and no stuff like that what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:07   you x it's nice but a lot of times it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   seems so one of the things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   galaxy s eight does and in the leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   screenshot from andy rubin of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   phone which I can't help but think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   that was purposefully timed uh oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:20   uptweet guys and especially Eric Schmidt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:26   retweeting it yesterday on the day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   Samsung's event was you know it not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:34   the Eric Schmidt retweeted but here he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   said phenomenal new choices for Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:39   users coming very soon an example it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:42   like a few samsung then he said big week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:46   for android samsung looks great okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   right well someone someone whispered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:51   his ear hey man you know who sells the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   most android phone still yeah he tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   the other one first yeah alright i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   i will put that in the show notes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   well i am i'm copying and pasting right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01   now this is not a lie it's really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   I there's just no doubt my mind though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:08   that I really do I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   unfair for you to have written it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:11   really do think that that Apple is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   to be late to the edge to edge design I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   mean now maybe they've got something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   else and they're going to kick it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:18   next level but at the very least as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   things stand right now today at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:21   of March 2017 Apple is behind the curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:26   on the size of the bezels of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   may be the most convincing kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:32   counter-argument to that was well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:35   but then in December they'll have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   newest one which is true and that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:40   they sell the most phones in the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:41   quarter so they will have the newest one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   but i don't know i don't think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:46   great this is uh this is similar to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:49   they would you know when they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50   sometimes come close to not destroying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:54   their quarterly numbers relative to Wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:58   Street's expectations and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5278">TS</a>]

01:27:59   point is that Apple is a you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01   exceptional company they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02   destroy expectation right not just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05   close to them so do you think they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:08   see that the andy rubin one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   interesting because it now has a curved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:13   corners of the screen to do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   we'll see i rounded just about to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:17   source on iOS we'll take a look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   add the s8 has round corners 20 I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:23   know if that is a trend or with the andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:27   rubin one if you guys look at it who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   knows maybe we can we can get this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   you can just look down at your phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32   and we'll there's fancy new stuff fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:35   technology we can do in these podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:36   right now we could in theory be showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:39   you Andy Rubens leaked shot right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41   just look at your phone you may not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   have to go to a website try that we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45   see if we can get this to work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:48   ante Rubin one it literally is edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:49   edge there is no chin or forehead or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:53   least there's no forehead we can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:54   the chin but there's no forehead Chin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:57   like three inches right so the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   on the phone that he leaked haft that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   corners of the display have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   rounded unless you are going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   sharp cornered edge phone which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:09   possible i've seen some sony phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:11   have like actual squared off corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   that that look good but it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:17   rounded samsung seems more like a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   choice like they wanted to round them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   off I honestly I don't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:25   think about that I it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   make sense to me in iOS because things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   go corner to corner I mean look at where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:31   the battery icon in the little dots to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:34   indicate your cell signal are I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   there's no room to round those off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:39   don't want him squished towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:40   middle was it palm was it webos that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:45   the rounded corners too well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:46   original Macintosh did true true and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:50   more recently yeah the the Mac the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:55   classic Mac had rounded off corners but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:57   the display wasn't really rounded off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:58   they were rounded off virtually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   actually just painted black pixels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:03   the corner to give the overall display I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05   remember that during startup like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   just sometimes you'd start up and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   Square and then you'd write get the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12   you could see it when you move core now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:13   say the corner too because the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:18   white mask around the black arrow would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20   still light up around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   if I recall how really just so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:27   could still see the mouse if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:28   hidden in the corner because if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   just painted it if it went underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32   the black you might not see the mouse on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:33   screen if i recall correctly i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:37   know i don't know what to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38   that it's sort of i certainly don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   think they should fake round the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   i think if they could make them square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:43   they should but I don't know it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   like a trend this year at least yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:48   Samsung and they're actually using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   forehead and chin as kind of a branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:54   thing somewhere around the office I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:55   saw like a booklet big I guess they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:58   out yesterday of like the design process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5458">TS</a>]

01:30:59   of the s8 in a they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:03   highlighting net forehead and chin as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:06   like line art you know I'm interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:09   yeah it's a distinctive look I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   you know and it certainly can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:13   accused of copying Apple on that on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   front a couple of the other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   stuck out to me that with the s8 is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   the removal of the or are not removal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:23   because it does have a chin and forehead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:24   but the forehead and chin they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:27   symmetric they're the same size but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   forehead is so small that it no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31   they've this is the first flagship phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   they've ever made that doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:34   big ugly samsung logo printed on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:36   front and I think it's so funny that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:41   all the things that they were copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:43   shamelessly from Apple over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:44   the one thing they never could bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   themselves to do is to have the him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   brand humility to ship a phone without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   logo on the front face I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53   understood that because and a because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:56   think it it the fuck I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59   a logo on the front face I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:00   the content and it goes back to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03   me talking about the black versus white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:04   borders around the screen I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:06   want anything to distract me from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   content but secondarily it their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:13   logo is fucking ugly it's an ugly-ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   logo totally and these phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:18   especially tablets are often used both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:21   horizontally and vertically and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:24   logo can't be right all the time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:27   realize that yes Apple prints their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   apple logo on the back of the iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   every time you hold the phone sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:32   the logo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   ways but it's not it's not facing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   it's facing out you know and there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:39   know I'm not saying they shouldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40   I mean people obviously love the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:43   logo on their phones because so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44   the cases I see have a circle cut out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   it for the for the damn thing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:52   thought that was weird there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:53   there's no not weird but notable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   there's no samsung logo on the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   face and any other thing is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59   chin is so small that there's no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   a physical home button or fingernail or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   fingerprint sensor ah it's too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:05   presumably so now they've moved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:08   fingerprint sensor to the back and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10   off center to the side of the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12   lens which is totally a gross design in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:15   my opinion yeah that's not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:19   good I have the Google pixel and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:23   it's my favorite android device I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:25   ever used and that has a fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27   sensor in the back of the phones roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   like where the apple logo is on on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   iphone but at least it's centered I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:35   don't love it I think it's worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   having it on the bottom of the phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:40   it's okay but at least it's centered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:41   at least it isn't going to cover up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44   camera lens you know when you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   it where does the speaker grow and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:51   in the front facing camera does that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:53   in the top of the phone or is that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55   built in with no grill on I think it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   think it's at the top of the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59   it's hard to tell at least when you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   there were there were leaks of Samsung S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:04   aids that had a white face and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   see there's a whole bunch of holes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:07   the top a whole bunch of sensors up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   there but it looks to me like and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   getting back to black versus white I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:12   think all of the samsung galaxy s eights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   with the various color backs all have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   black front unless I'm unless I miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:20   something I don't know but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:24   that's all at the top and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:27   presumably a microphone at the bend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:28   speakers at the bottom two I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   the one last weird thing I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:34   the s8 is that they've added a dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:38   hardware button for bixby you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:43   that seems like a mistake because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45   guessing bixby is gonna be crap is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:48   the one that uses the Siri guys thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:51   no the no I'd well I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:57   know if they've had time to integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5697">TS</a>]

01:34:59   that so what was that that was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:00   second the guy who invented the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:03   that invented original series sold it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05   apple was with Apple for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06   then they all left and started a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   thing along the same lines again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:11   Samsung acquired them I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14   Bixby's based on that already or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   that's too soon and they were aren't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   haven't been able to integrate it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:19   presumably if it's not already it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:22   soon seems like a weird thing to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:26   dedicated hardware button for yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:31   can't viv was the name of the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   and I don't ever say I'm looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:38   certainly it doesn't seem to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:39   results it doesn't seem to me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:41   the features they're saying that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:45   Bixby does doesn't sound anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:46   the stuff that viv was doing like viv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   was doing some pretty complex stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   booking flights for you and Bixby seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:56   more like take me back to my inbox type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:59   stuff sounds like Bixby is not a viv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:02   thing yet right and I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:06   becomes viv power or a fever places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:09   Bixby or I don't know someone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:12   yesterday get me the first app that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:15   revamp that button to summon Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:17   assistant let's skip skip all this crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:20   anyway I was wondering if somebody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22   figure out a way to hack it to map it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   be a camera shutter oh because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   the one thing if if I were going to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:29   another button to the iphone i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:30   probably i don't know that i need that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:33   would but if you said you have to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:35   button and it does something i'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:37   well make it a camera shutter and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:38   camera is not open and I hit it it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   jump me to the camera yeah the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:44   used to have that a lot of uh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:47   the metal never did it but no Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50   phones did it I think the windows phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:53   had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   there's the one button the iphone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   that most other phones don't have but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:00   love it is the mute switch yes I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:04   understand why the other I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06   understand why other phones don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:07   mute switch I love the meats which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:10   can't I cannot believe that all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:13   other phones to mute the phone you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15   got to actually use the screen even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:18   it's a pretty simple unlock it swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:21   down tap the you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   equivalent of putting airplane mode on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:25   an iphone I'm not saying it's onerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:29   but i don't know i use the mute switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:30   so many times and if I'm in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:33   where I definitely just want my phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:34   be muted I love that I can do it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:37   looking at it it's kind of the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:40   you want to be able to do without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:41   looking at the phone right making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   that it's not going to embarrass you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   the meeting you're in right or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47   you're at a wedding or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48   that and you're like let me double check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   for the 30th time that my phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51   definitely mute yeah hey I hate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   they took it off the iPad because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   i would use it for I do too orientation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   lock and to me that's very very everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:02   feature yeah it was for me to and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:05   actually one of the reasons I've I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   stuck with again a throwback to an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:10   ago in the show it's why my ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   still has a mute switch and I love it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:14   you had the mini too yeah I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16   yeah I guess it's the first retina mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:20   I think that's what I've got whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:21   the first with mini the mini too it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23   like unlike with the iphone maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25   three i have everything i can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:28   like what was new in every single iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30   like with the ipads i don't i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   idea it they're all just like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:33   what they looked like but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:35   telling the one mini from another all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:36   know is that they used to not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   retina screens and now they have retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   screen and everything else is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:43   irrelevant to me anyway I guess the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:49   other thing I want to talk about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:50   the Samsung is that Samsung's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   done a lot of press fruit there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:53   not hiding the fact that that their last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55   phone that was a huge embarrassment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:58   had a a credibly expensive recall they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:04   there was a great story I thought in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:07   verge bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:08   I think was dan seifert know me double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:11   check before I keep calling where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:13   actually flew over to Korea to visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:19   with Samsung and see like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   testing rigs they have up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23   battery yes it was dan seifert at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:24   verge got a link in the show notes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:29   know they're obviously doing press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:30   specifically to assuage people's fears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:33   that that these might explode because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:39   this one thing to have a product recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   because it was a lemon just in period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:44   like like let's say the problem is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46   many of these phones that the screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48   just died and just turned in a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:50   total blowout of the screen and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52   screen won't turn on they had to recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:54   all of these phones well that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5994">TS</a>]

01:39:56   huge expensive you know PR disaster but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:59   at least nobody's has is at risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   getting hurt right your house isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   going to burn down if that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   with the phone the defect whereas if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   problem if the defect with the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09   that the battery might explode and catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11   fire that's that's actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:14   dangerous yeah it's good I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:17   obviously you don't want that to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19   but it's good to show off although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:22   presumably some of those tests were run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:23   well I don't know I guess I should admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:27   I have not read the article yet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29   all right Pete I don't know if these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31   new tests or if these tests were also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:32   performed on the yeah I don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:35   that a fire prone device the one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38   will read it now when it's in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   notes yeah i did hear i heard from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:44   friend at apple who works with her nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:47   a battery engineer at apple so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:51   secondhand but that when these when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:53   scandal first started breaking there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:54   a team of battery engineers at apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   door like well we got it let's just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:57   what this is like and not as like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:59   official part of apples competitive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:03   know what would you call it backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:08   engineering but just out of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:09   curiosity a couple of battery engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:11   at apple bought a note 7 that opened it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:14   up and like looked at the battery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16   they were like Paul they were like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:19   is I cannot believe they put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:20   battery in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:21   hahaha that it was it seemed very you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:24   know just you know they're obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26   these the people making this judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:28   our battery engineers so they it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:29   like me and you looking at it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:32   they were at you know aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:33   size and dimensions of the battery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   the the size of the enclosure that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:38   seemed like the it's just a book just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:41   eyeballing it as an expert this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43   like it's at risk of the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45   positive and negative parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:49   battery touching each other that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:50   just can't can't happen with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:53   lithium-ion battery you know and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:55   were general reports that afterwards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:57   know never other news reports from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:59   sources in samsung that it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:02   it's sort of a company culture tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   because this is the curiosity I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:05   his did Samsung just get unlucky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   this could have just as easily happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   to apple or was there is there a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:11   was there a real structural problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13   within samsung that led to this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:14   think that I think the answer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   latter that there were you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:19   management saying we want a battery of X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:22   megawatt hours so we can get this amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:25   of battery life but we want the phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26   be this then just make it happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:29   over the objections of their Samsung's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:33   own engineers they went ahead with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:34   design that they knew should have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   should have known was risky because part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:39   of the promotion for the s8 is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   even saying look this has a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:42   battery but you can bring it on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:48   yeah that's probably the worst that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50   probably the worst promotional part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   the whole s7 disaster are those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:54   reminders when you you're at the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:56   they it's not just like one time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58   tell you before you board the plane they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00   tell you when you're on the plane it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:02   what I think they're over though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:03   haven't heard one yeah I think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   too i think that you know thankfully at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07   least for they recalled all i think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09   the phones are right most of the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11   have been recalled at this point but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:12   did i took a couple of flights where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:14   that happened and it was really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:16   brutal constantly em all right let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6196">TS</a>]

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01:44:49   talk show thanks to audible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51   sponsoring the talk show uh what else we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:55   got I got a few more things and we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:56   to wrap it up how about you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58   this and we'll see this Twitter stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00   which which twitter stuff i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:02   don't know there's a couple of things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:03   twitter what are you talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   looks like today especially in the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:08   although you're all third-party and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:09   right yeah they've i saw your tweet yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:13   i think i think you're good you're too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:15   deck i know you're talking about go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:16   ahead they've they've kind of changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:20   the way that replies work and look so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:23   when you yeah that was their pro to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   reply to someone you don't see their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   handles in the reply anymore it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:31   second level of metadata and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:33   they've also done is open up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35   character limit so you can now type a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   full 140-character reply instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:41   handles counting toward the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43   limit yeah but man is it weird to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:47   used to and it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:48   they actually changed it I noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50   first in the mac app and they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:53   showing the handles at all they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   showing people's Nate full names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:59   just super strange and kind of new but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:05   not great UI and just ugly and it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:10   like today they turned it on in iOS too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:11   so now a huge percentage of twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   users are seeing this stuff but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:18   i don't know i don't know if this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20   kind of thing where they think oh wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:21   twitter is going to be so much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23   confusing now to new users or or what or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:27   if they really just wanted to strip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29   metadata of reply handles out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:33   tweet and put it in a different place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:34   but it's kind of gross yeah it's I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:39   like they've they've talked themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:43   into knots over what the problems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:46   with Twitter and that they've convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   themselves that things that are not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:51   problem with Twitter are the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:52   with Twitter and there's those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:54   problems they're tackling and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   anything I think they're just making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57   worse it doesn't make any sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6417">TS</a>]

01:47:01   and it doesn't even seem efficient like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03   the screenshot you posted in your tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:04   was like in reply to Joe Smith and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:09   other and so instead of showing at Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11   Smith it actually says his name capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13   Joe capital s smith and one other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:17   then you tap that and it shows you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6437">TS</a>]

01:47:19   other and like a pop up but it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:22   would have taken just as much space just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:24   to show both usernames right like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6444">TS</a>]

01:47:27   understand in the case where if maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:29   there's seven people in a reply chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:31   which is already a mess on Twitter but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:33   can see how of course everyone is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:35   today now these endless canoes know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:38   could see how if it said in reply to dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:40   frommer and five others that five others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:44   is clearly more condensed than actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:48   listing all six usernames and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:50   tapping that to show a list of all six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52   is a reasonable you I but when it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54   has one other it's like you've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:56   you've done them you've made a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58   mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6478">TS</a>]

01:47:59   yeah the other thing I noticed the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:02   day is if you try to string tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:05   together it was otto inserting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08   period handle thing at the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:10   the tweet which was a bad hack to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:13   with hmm and was then part of the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:17   the actual creation of the tweets oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:19   yeah I should I'm looking at the Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:23   app right now and it makes me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:25   I should spend a couple of days using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:27   because I think I'm so out of date that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:30   I'm lost and I feel like people always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:33   ask me like why don't you just use tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35   bot and I suppose I should I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:38   really like using default apps because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40   especially as someone whose job is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:42   kind of analyze and write about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:44   industry it's helpful for me to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:47   most people are going through I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6527">TS</a>]

01:48:49   change as few things about my mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51   possible and iPhone and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:54   stuff too and also the old twitter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:58   mac which was Tweety for Mac originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:00   a fine Lauren brick der creation to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:04   was the best twitter interface yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:07   way that it flows in real-time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:09   responses are included in their to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:12   especially if you follow as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:13   accounts as I do which is currently 5104 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:18   there's just always information flowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20   through and it to me is the best look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:23   what Twitter really is just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:25   constant conversation of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   sometimes they're talking to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:28   and sometimes they're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:30   themselves but it just really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:32   awesome in the way it was animated it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34   just better to me than any other Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:36   you I but it this Twitter for mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:40   now is just such a disaster so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:43   know and twitter for iphone doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:47   it it's just twitter for mac and twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49   for iphone i see how they're taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:51   at out of their tweets but it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53   replying to at Gruber doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:56   replying to John Cooper so I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58   that that changed in let's see if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:02   change in Twitter from Mac today now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   still says replying to Dave Pell yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06   that's on the Mac so on Mac so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:10   they'll sync it up I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:12   I believe the mac app is now a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:14   party creation made by an agency so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:17   maybe they're on a a week old yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:22   baby my whining helped I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:24   probably not but even I I understand i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:26   totally understand and that's why i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:28   saying i think i should spend some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6628">TS</a>]

01:50:29   using twitter app just because i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32   should be familiar with it too knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34   you know just to write reasonably about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:36   twitter and it is diverging further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:39   further from the third-party clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:40   because the third-party clients are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:42   limited I a I think that they're made by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:44   people with better design sense than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:46   Twitter's designers but be there limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:47   by the api's and they can't I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49   that they can't really do a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:51   things the twitter client is doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53   so they're sort of stuck with the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55   twitter metaphor but i think it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:59   think it's for the better I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:02   did you see that the the granddaddy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:06   all third-party clients twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:07   they hadn't updated their mac version in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:12   a wasin but because the economics you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6672">TS</a>]

01:51:14   know that the their iphone version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:16   the most popular and that's where their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:17   engineering timeline but they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   Kickstarter to raise money to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   modernize the mac version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24   twitterrific and it got fully funded so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26   it's good news I don't think I got in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:30   that though so now I'm mad yeah I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:33   have well no no I wish I had it but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:36   but whenever they finished I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37   know you can still buy it this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:40   thing is because of the idiotic cap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:42   user numbers that third-party clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:44   are allowed to have like right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:46   there's me is just so out of date like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:49   Twitter and Twitter I think now needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51   really open itself up to third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:54   apps again because the first party ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:57   are not super great yeah I I there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6717">TS</a>]

01:52:03   I understand we wear what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:06   looking around at his face book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08   certainly took off you know circuit 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:12   2014 I don't know when Twitter did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:15   API thing but you could see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:17   Facebook was going and Facebook wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:19   thing where there were third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:20   clients for facebook everything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22   facebook goes through facebook and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:25   I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:25   I honestly think that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:27   motivator like well Facebook is forcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:29   everybody to use Facebook so we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:31   Twitter should be a thing where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:32   to use Twitter but I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6752">TS</a>]

01:52:34   where they started going off the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:36   because they were losing twitter at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6756">TS</a>]

01:52:38   company was losing sense of what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40   that made Twitter great which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:42   the the network and the simplicity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6762">TS</a>]

01:52:44   the format that it's just hey who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:48   tweets do I want to see here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:51   tweets from those people here they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:52   and here's the tweets that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54   mentioning you I feel like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:58   they've done they get away from that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00   been a mistake you know I used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:05   able to use Facebook through a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:06   party Adobe AIR tweetdeck really i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:10   this is gone yeah i think that's long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:13   gone now I don't know hmm yeah I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:17   agree and you know some of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19   they've done like the live video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:21   interesting to see them chase after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:23   and actually found a Twitter moment to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:27   be very useful once when I missed a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29   news story and wanted to catch up on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:30   quickly and I just looked in Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:33   moments and sure enough there it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35   it explained the whole thing to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:36   actually one thing I see people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6816">TS</a>]

01:53:39   sometimes in Twitter which is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42   useful feature they could create is a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:44   explanation for why everyone's pissed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:47   this one person right now Thank not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:50   me hey why's everyone shit talking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:53   one guy there'll be a useful feature in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55   the Twitter out how he did this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:57   okay how do you get to Twitter moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6837">TS</a>]

01:53:58   in the in the iphone app I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   know well they reheat it now you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:04   go into this explore age and then most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06   that top one I think is a moment oh all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:09   right but i don't know i see scroll down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:11   and it has today's moments i got ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:13   explore it definitely made it harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:16   find them which does not play well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:19   their long-term future maybe i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6859">TS</a>]

01:54:22   know i think eventually you're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:24   to be in the in the feed but yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:27   no no good luck to twitter yeah i've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:32   one more sponsor to the tank and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:33   then we can we can do whatever our last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:36   segment of the show is going to be but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:37   got to thank our good friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:38   at Squarespace make your next move when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:42   you do you need them new website making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:45   it Squarespace everything you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47   to create a new website you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:49   Squarespace you can just get your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:50   name you get the domain name now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:53   of a good domain name go to Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:54   registered and you can just have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6894">TS</a>]

01:54:56   placeholder but don't lose that domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6896">TS</a>]

01:54:58   name you could do that you could set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6898">TS</a>]

01:55:00   a store you can set up a blog you set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:03   a podcast you can set up like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6903">TS</a>]

01:55:06   an artist or a freelance designer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:09   something like that you can set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:10   portfolio site anything like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:13   could do it at Squarespace how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6913">TS</a>]

01:55:14   have you created Squarespace like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:16   edit a bunch of PHP files and use a SFTP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:20   program to upload them to a server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22   no you don't do that you just log right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:25   in the square space and you do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6925">TS</a>]

01:55:26   in the browser you make a website on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:28   website and you want to move something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6928">TS</a>]

01:55:30   from the left or the right you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:32   like enter a bunch of code you just drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:34   it from the left to the right if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6934">TS</a>]

01:55:36   want to add a different component you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:38   just drag it out put it on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:40   where you want it there it is they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6940">TS</a>]

01:55:42   so many professionally designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:44   templates to choose from that it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:46   you probably don't even know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6946">TS</a>]

01:55:48   probably Squarespace sites all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:49   you don't even know your Justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:50   Squarespace sites it's not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:51   there's a look like oh this is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6951">TS</a>]

01:55:54   what the squarespace site looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:55   it's not like that at all because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:57   have so many templates really a terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6957">TS</a>]

01:56:00   product and the quickest way to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:04   the notion that you need a website for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:07   something or you want to replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:08   existing website for something with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6968">TS</a>]

01:56:10   new one to actually having it and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:13   the best things about it is they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:14   award-winning technical support you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:18   get them on a horn and you're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19   them and if you have a problem like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:20   don't know you can't figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:22   do something it's they'll they've got 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:26   hour a day tech support and they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:28   you how to do it couldn't be easier so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:30   next time you do a website give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:32   Squarespace a shot first just go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:34   and spend an hour trying to build your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:36   thing at website at Squarespace you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:37   probably be done by the end of the hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:39   and you won't even get to plan B for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/6999">TS</a>]

01:56:41   you're going to do it go to squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:44   com to check it out and then when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:46   buy you can start for free by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:47   but when you do pay to get set up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:50   account just enter the code Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7010">TS</a>]

01:56:52   my last name at checkout and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:54   get ten percent off so go to squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7014">TS</a>]

01:56:57   com get a free trial and when you switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7017">TS</a>]

01:56:59   from the free trial to a paid account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7019">TS</a>]

01:57:01   just remember Gruber he'll get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7021">TS</a>]

01:57:03   percent off you save save money I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7023">TS</a>]

01:57:06   credit ah anything else on the agenda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7026">TS</a>]

01:57:09   got to figure out something what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:12   this tell me what's that you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:14   well there's the GC the video i put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:17   the show notes booth the these two guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7037">TS</a>]

01:57:18   up in Canada did a head-to-head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:19   comparison of Android auto versus carp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:22   car play I did that was good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:25   devastating and I'm a guy who in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:29   is on the hey everybody says serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:31   total garbage I disagree there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7051">TS</a>]

01:57:34   know I find so useful in Xyz and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7054">TS</a>]

01:57:37   works really well for me and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:40   I ask for a support score I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7060">TS</a>]

01:57:42   up-to-the-minute score and great at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:45   weather and and this that and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:47   thing but this I don't my I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:50   anything like autoplay or car play in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:52   car my cars from 2006 so it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7072">TS</a>]

01:57:55   even have like a like a way to pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7075">TS</a>]

01:57:59   music through my stereo I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:01   probably get a new car but so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7081">TS</a>]

01:58:04   have first-hand experience with this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7084">TS</a>]

01:58:05   this head-to-head video up I will put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:07   in the show notes absolutely devastating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7087">TS</a>]

01:58:10   this isn't like Oh for a B and C Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:13   auto is better but for d e and f car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:16   plays better and this it this was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7096">TS</a>]

01:58:19   wipeout this is like Android auto is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7099">TS</a>]

01:58:21   like pretty useful and seems to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7101">TS</a>]

01:58:23   exactly what you wanted to do if with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:25   little bit of lag you know that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:29   like 10 years from now we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:31   look back and say I cannot believe how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:32   much lag there was on the voice input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7112">TS</a>]

01:58:34   for these things versus car play which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:38   was like totally busted I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:40   failed at everything failed to send the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7120">TS</a>]

01:58:41   guy text messages couldn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:43   his friend's name there was no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:45   like convince serie of what his friend's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:48   name was they asked for directions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:50   something nearby up in Canada and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7130">TS</a>]

01:58:53   routing them to like Toledo Ohio it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7133">TS</a>]

01:58:59   really bad yeah you know I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:02   car so i don't know i don't have either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:04   of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7144">TS</a>]

01:59:05   it just seems to show that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:08   these services lack context in even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7148">TS</a>]

01:59:12   most basic of queries and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15   they're supposed to be getting better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:17   that like Siri sometimes can respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7157">TS</a>]

01:59:20   your previous query knowing that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:22   the context but all the time I try using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:25   Amazon Alexa aight raising siri to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:29   about the previous query and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:32   never is it working to my kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:35   desired level of context and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:38   that'll get better over time and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:40   pretty simple I mean this should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42   know that they're in Canada so maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:43   closest that whatever you want to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:46   it the relevance of search results is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:49   probably more based on location than on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7189">TS</a>]

01:59:52   what's the number one ranking for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:55   global search term well I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:59   seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7199">TS</a>]

01:59:59   seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7199">TS</a>]

02:00:00   Apple really has its work cut out for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01   in this regard honestly from this demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:03   video I mean I don't know if this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7203">TS</a>]

02:00:05   representative it it and it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7205">TS</a>]

02:00:08   what it was was two guys a go check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7208">TS</a>]

02:00:11   you know I put it again I put the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7211">TS</a>]

02:00:12   in the shadows you can check it out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:13   it like the general it seemed like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15   very fair thing it wasn't like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:17   out to get car place he might the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:18   guy is an iphone fan the other guys an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:20   android fan and and so the the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7220">TS</a>]

02:00:24   the one guy was you know you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26   sort of like a little friendly wager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:26   type thing but so the guy who was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:30   to get car plated do things was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7230">TS</a>]

02:00:32   his best like he really wanted it to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:35   work and I really don't think there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:37   a single thing they did that was unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7237">TS</a>]

02:00:39   at all anyway pretty bad last thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:45   had was this whole thing with the ISPs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:49   and privacy and this ridiculous law that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:51   that the US Congress passed yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7251">TS</a>]

02:00:54   you saw this right yeah where there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7254">TS</a>]

02:00:59   a under the Obama administration that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:02   the FCC past the thing that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7262">TS</a>]

02:01:05   prevent ISPs and and like cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7265">TS</a>]

02:01:07   providers from using your your web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7267">TS</a>]

02:01:10   traffic history to sell to advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:14   or other people who'd be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7274">TS</a>]

02:01:16   knowing everything you've done on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7276">TS</a>]

02:01:19   Internet ah and the US Congress in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:24   Senate passed legislation abolishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:27   this which is ridiculous and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:29   completely along again I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7289">TS</a>]

02:01:31   get too much into the politics of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:33   mean a partisan ship of it but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:37   single person in the Senate and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:39   house who voted for it was a Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:41   and not a single Democrat voted for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:44   and I think there were only 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:46   Republicans who voted against it it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:49   it's the most ridiculous like this issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7309">TS</a>]

02:01:51   should not be partisan like somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7311">TS</a>]

02:01:55   is a died diehard republican but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7315">TS</a>]

02:02:00   like own stock and comcast but justjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7320">TS</a>]

02:02:02   is a Republican and believes in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7322">TS</a>]

02:02:04   like low taxes and all the other you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7324">TS</a>]

02:02:07   know the strong defense spending and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7327">TS</a>]

02:02:09   etcetera etcetera down the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7329">TS</a>]

02:02:11   politically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7331">TS</a>]

02:02:13   there's no way that they're in favor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7333">TS</a>]

02:02:14   their cell phone provider selling their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7334">TS</a>]

02:02:17   browsing history to advertisers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7337">TS</a>]

02:02:19   this is not a conservative issue it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7339">TS</a>]

02:02:23   absolutely unconscionable that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7343">TS</a>]

02:02:26   past and you know surprise surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7346">TS</a>]

02:02:28   guess who's a big spender on lobbying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7348">TS</a>]

02:02:31   Washington DC the the telecom industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:33   yeah what's interesting is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7353">TS</a>]

02:02:37   whatever was passed and i'm not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7357">TS</a>]

02:02:40   expert in this so whatever but what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7360">TS</a>]

02:02:44   passed under obama i guess never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7364">TS</a>]

02:02:46   actually took effect no nothing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7366">TS</a>]

02:02:49   actually getting worse it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7369">TS</a>]

02:02:51   getting better and I don't know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7371">TS</a>]

02:02:54   telcos were actually taking advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7374">TS</a>]

02:02:56   their capabilities in this regard before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7376">TS</a>]

02:02:59   or if it was just you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7379">TS</a>]

02:03:03   that they wanted to do so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:05   some Liberty was technically taken away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7385">TS</a>]

02:03:08   although i guess it was supposed to kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:10   in at some point and then and now won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7390">TS</a>]

02:03:12   but it's crazy to me that any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:16   companies could say this is in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7396">TS</a>]

02:03:18   interest of private like what were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7398">TS</a>]

02:03:20   saying like of choice or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7400">TS</a>]

02:03:22   that yeah now just fucking say you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7402">TS</a>]

02:03:25   to make some money don't just be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:28   about it yeah right this is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:31   business line for us and you know do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:34   run the pipe we can do whatever we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7414">TS</a>]

02:03:36   with it um but i guess they can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:39   that right well Sam Biddle at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7419">TS</a>]

02:03:41   intercept i will put a link to this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7421">TS</a>]

02:03:43   the show notes as well did the omens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:45   work as a reporter and what what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:47   what is it the group is called the NCT a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7427">TS</a>]

02:03:52   i don't know what that stands for though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7432">TS</a>]

02:03:53   i don't bright used to stand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:57   something and now doesn't yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7437">TS</a>]

02:03:59   this trade group association it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7439">TS</a>]

02:04:01   lobbying group that represents companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7441">TS</a>]

02:04:03   like Verizon and Comcast and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:06   big and you know this is the statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:09   after last week's vote red we appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:12   today's Senate action to repeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7452">TS</a>]

02:04:13   unwarranted FCC rules that deny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7453">TS</a>]

02:04:15   consumers consistent deny consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7455">TS</a>]

02:04:18   consistent privacy prediction online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7458">TS</a>]

02:04:20   violate competitive neutrality our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:23   industry remains committed to offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7463">TS</a>]

02:04:25   services that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:26   protect the privacy and security of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7466">TS</a>]

02:04:28   personal information of our customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7468">TS</a>]

02:04:30   it's so their statement is just purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7470">TS</a>]

02:04:32   it really is I it often overused but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7472">TS</a>]

02:04:36   really apt here Orwellian in terms in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7476">TS</a>]

02:04:39   terms of using words that mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:41   complete opposite of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7481">TS</a>]

02:04:43   legislation actually did and i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:47   some of the argument they used was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7487">TS</a>]

02:04:49   well facebook and google can do this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7489">TS</a>]

02:04:51   why shouldn't we be able to but and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:53   again I don't know who actually me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7493">TS</a>]

02:04:55   this is just that my third day memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:58   reading articles about this but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7498">TS</a>]

02:05:00   truth is that they don't like Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7500">TS</a>]

02:05:02   and Google see what you're doing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:04   Facebook and Google and maybe what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:06   click out on but they don't get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7506">TS</a>]

02:05:08   full internet history which to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:10   like a you know you if you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:13   click something on facebook you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:14   avoid that you can't avoid using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7514">TS</a>]

02:05:17   internet while you're on the internet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7517">TS</a>]

02:05:19   seems kind of like the kind of argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:23   that would maybe work if you're a moron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7523">TS</a>]

02:05:25   but if you actually know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7525">TS</a>]

02:05:27   how the internet works does not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7527">TS</a>]

02:05:28   work right and Facebook and Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7528">TS</a>]

02:05:30   there's no denying that they are they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7530">TS</a>]

02:05:32   very hard to avoid you know I just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7532">TS</a>]

02:05:36   car i'd still I don't have a facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7536">TS</a>]

02:05:38   account I never have and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7538">TS</a>]

02:05:40   conversation with somebody last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7540">TS</a>]

02:05:42   while i was at waiting to meet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7542">TS</a>]

02:05:44   people at Apple and somebody who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7544">TS</a>]

02:05:45   couldn't believe it just absolutely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7545">TS</a>]

02:05:47   know was really thought I was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7547">TS</a>]

02:05:49   pulling their leg and I'm like no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7549">TS</a>]

02:05:50   really I don't use it I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7550">TS</a>]

02:05:52   kind of amazing you can still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:54   Instagram without having a facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:55   account I do you know if anything would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:57   ever get me to sign up for it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7557">TS</a>]

02:05:59   be that you know I still have died still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7559">TS</a>]

02:06:00   don't see Instagram ads I've to mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7560">TS</a>]

02:06:03   either but we gotta stopped I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7563">TS</a>]

02:06:05   people that do you there was we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7565">TS</a>]

02:06:07   get I I know but I kind of want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7567">TS</a>]

02:06:09   him because I'm curious but I'm worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7569">TS</a>]

02:06:11   that it's I'm gonna see one and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7571">TS</a>]

02:06:14   yeah I could finally see what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7574">TS</a>]

02:06:15   Instagram at is like and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:16   sudden I'll be inundated with a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7576">TS</a>]

02:06:18   gonna be like oh man remember when I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7578">TS</a>]

02:06:20   was two years into you know I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:22   really good one once I used to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7582">TS</a>]

02:06:24   and I got a great one maybe this is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7584">TS</a>]

02:06:26   they stop showing them to me I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7586">TS</a>]

02:06:27   great one for suntory whiskey huh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7587">TS</a>]

02:06:30   thought I don't like that these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7590">TS</a>]

02:06:32   know me well suntory whiskey but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7592">TS</a>]

02:06:35   see any ads anymore except now i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:37   them occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:38   tween stories because that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:40   different format I'd I still not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7600">TS</a>]

02:06:42   see them there I don't think I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7602">TS</a>]

02:06:45   rarely do so that either they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7605">TS</a>]

02:06:47   enough ads or they don't like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7607">TS</a>]

02:06:49   whatever something about me does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7609">TS</a>]

02:06:52   target well yeah I but again it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7612">TS</a>]

02:06:58   utility you know I mean like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7618">TS</a>]

02:07:00   really that's why you know and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7620">TS</a>]

02:07:02   understand the general and in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7622">TS</a>]

02:07:04   degree i agree with it like the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7624">TS</a>]

02:07:07   Republican mindset is that fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7627">TS</a>]

02:07:10   government regulations are better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7630">TS</a>]

02:07:13   better to let the market you know work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7633">TS</a>]

02:07:17   itself out and that over regulation is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7637">TS</a>]

02:07:19   problem totally get that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7639">TS</a>]

02:07:23   agree with it i think that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7643">TS</a>]

02:07:26   you know it's it's when a funk when are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7646">TS</a>]

02:07:28   functioning two-party system with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7648">TS</a>]

02:07:30   side being conservative one side being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7650">TS</a>]

02:07:32   liberal that one of the even though i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:34   generally liberal i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7654">TS</a>]

02:07:36   conservative serve a very effective role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7656">TS</a>]

02:07:39   at limiting the government from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7659">TS</a>]

02:07:41   over-regulating things I really do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7661">TS</a>]

02:07:43   mean and I just renewed my driver's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7663">TS</a>]

02:07:45   license this month and say it's I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:51   would say it is a you know it government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7671">TS</a>]

02:07:54   bureaucracy can be a real problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7674">TS</a>]

02:07:56   doing something that you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7676">TS</a>]

02:07:57   every couple years I this is a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7677">TS</a>]

02:08:04   where the like regulating things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7684">TS</a>]

02:08:07   the water quality and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:10   elect the electricity and service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:14   stuff like that there's a reason why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7694">TS</a>]

02:08:16   want the government to regulate that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7696">TS</a>]

02:08:17   know you don't want to have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:18   getting their heat shut off in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7698">TS</a>]

02:08:20   middle of winter just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7700">TS</a>]

02:08:21   missed a bill or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7701">TS</a>]

02:08:23   a telecom stuff is regulated for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7703">TS</a>]

02:08:27   reason and being able to sell your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7707">TS</a>]

02:08:30   history would seem to me a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7710">TS</a>]

02:08:34   violation of that as a utility service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7714">TS</a>]

02:08:36   and I do think are killing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7716">TS</a>]

02:08:37   electrical histories for sale I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7717">TS</a>]

02:08:40   know i don't think so i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:44   anybody would agree i never knows i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7724">TS</a>]

02:08:47   for all I know maybe this is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:49   books and they're doing it but it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7729">TS</a>]

02:08:50   don't think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52   companies can sell a list of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:54   advertisers of who I've made phone calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7734">TS</a>]

02:08:56   too Yeah right right like you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7736">TS</a>]

02:08:59   then you know side the most second most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:01   threatening right i mean angle like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:06   and I could see competitively why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:08   would want it you know like a pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7748">TS</a>]

02:09:10   place might want to see that I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7750">TS</a>]

02:09:11   calling I every time i order pizza I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7751">TS</a>]

02:09:14   it from the same place and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7754">TS</a>]

02:09:16   send me it you don't call me up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7756">TS</a>]

02:09:17   offer me a special offer or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7757">TS</a>]

02:09:19   like that but I would be terrible you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7759">TS</a>]

02:09:23   be outrageous I find it valuable seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7763">TS</a>]

02:09:26   think that that VPNs are the solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7766">TS</a>]

02:09:29   although I don't think that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7769">TS</a>]

02:09:30   gonna take off I mean it yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7770">TS</a>]

02:09:32   know if you've use the VPN ever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7772">TS</a>]

02:09:34   they're kind of a pain in the ass so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7774">TS</a>]

02:09:35   well they're they're kind of a pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7775">TS</a>]

02:09:37   the ass and it's I don't think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7777">TS</a>]

02:09:39   think they should be presented as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7779">TS</a>]

02:09:40   panacea especially if you're not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7780">TS</a>]

02:09:42   running the VPN you know like so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:45   people who work at big companies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7785">TS</a>]

02:09:47   when they do work like if you work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7787">TS</a>]

02:09:49   Apple and you want to work from home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:51   you've got to log onto the VPN because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:53   you can't even access the stuff you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7793">TS</a>]

02:09:55   if you're not because they want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7795">TS</a>]

02:09:57   secure but you can kind of trust it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7797">TS</a>]

02:09:59   because it's your VPN from apple and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7799">TS</a>]

02:10:01   know it like as an independent person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:04   using a VPN you you're completely at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7804">TS</a>]

02:10:07   mercy of the VPN service sure you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7807">TS</a>]

02:10:09   signing up for and they could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7809">TS</a>]

02:10:12   for all you know they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:13   tracking your history or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7813">TS</a>]

02:10:15   don't think it's a fantasy and it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7815">TS</a>]

02:10:18   some steps i do think i do wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7818">TS</a>]

02:10:20   somebody like if Apple could step in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7820">TS</a>]

02:10:23   do something where if you're using Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7823">TS</a>]

02:10:27   products and you have an apple base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:29   station you know this is in the fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7829">TS</a>]

02:10:32   world where Apple is still updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:34   their Wi-Fi routers on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:36   that they could do something that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7836">TS</a>]

02:10:40   of gives you an invisible VPN that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7840">TS</a>]

02:10:43   that would keep your isp from being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7843">TS</a>]

02:10:45   to do this sort of intrusive privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7845">TS</a>]

02:10:47   invasive stuff I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:48   enough about it to say but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7848">TS</a>]

02:10:51   seems to me like Apple could take an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7851">TS</a>]

02:10:52   interest in this that's another thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7852">TS</a>]

02:10:55   haven't has not been resolved yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7855">TS</a>]

02:10:57   future of the airport base stations yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7857">TS</a>]

02:11:00   but yeah I mean or or one of the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7860">TS</a>]

02:11:03   enterprising new players like hero that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7863">TS</a>]

02:11:05   be a cool thing euro could do or Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:07   or any of the new Jewish router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:10   providers oh we automatically although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7870">TS</a>]

02:11:12   what I don't know it's like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7872">TS</a>]

02:11:13   doing everything over a secure pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7873">TS</a>]

02:11:16   you're still sending packets over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7876">TS</a>]

02:11:20   hardware network so I don't know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7880">TS</a>]

02:11:23   I've seen other people say and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7883">TS</a>]

02:11:25   that this doesn't work that if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:27   change your dns from your ISPs own dns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:31   to like open dns or Google's DNS servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:34   or something like that that might help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:38   your service in some ways you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7898">TS</a>]

02:11:40   done that in years past but that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7900">TS</a>]

02:11:43   solve this problem like Comcast out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7903">TS</a>]

02:11:45   ones and zeros are still going over clay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7905">TS</a>]

02:11:47   youporn packets are still coming over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:49   come so it's just yep I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7909">TS</a>]

02:11:55   just sort of a depressing amidst all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7915">TS</a>]

02:11:58   other political stuff going on it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7918">TS</a>]

02:11:59   a very depressing display of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7919">TS</a>]

02:12:02   just nobody you know like even something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7922">TS</a>]

02:12:04   like on the environment which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7924">TS</a>]

02:12:06   obviously a political hot button hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7926">TS</a>]

02:12:08   button issue so if if the Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7928">TS</a>]

02:12:11   administration wants to roll back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:12   regulations on a like pollution coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7932">TS</a>]

02:12:16   pollution into water out me personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:18   I'm opposed to that I at least get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7938">TS</a>]

02:12:22   argument though that there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7942">TS</a>]

02:12:24   who are saying but finance you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7944">TS</a>]

02:12:25   can change the financial dynamics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7945">TS</a>]

02:12:28   this whole town or it you know I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7948">TS</a>]

02:12:33   I disagree with these people i'll even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7953">TS</a>]

02:12:34   argue with them but I at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7954">TS</a>]

02:12:36   acknowledge that there are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7956">TS</a>]

02:12:38   are arguing that side that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7958">TS</a>]

02:12:41   Americans who are saying no I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:43   should be allowed to do this whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:44   with this privacy thing there's nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7964">TS</a>]

02:12:46   its absolute crickets chirping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7966">TS</a>]

02:12:47   Twitter everybody is outraged about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:49   see tons and tons of tweets about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7969">TS</a>]

02:12:51   I don't see anyone anyone arguing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:53   the other side like there's nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7973">TS</a>]

02:12:56   saying yeah that I think it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7976">TS</a>]

02:12:58   idea to roll back this this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7978">TS</a>]

02:13:01   protection it's a business that it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7981">TS</a>]

02:13:04   it the most bizarre thing to have passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7984">TS</a>]

02:13:05   because it's so clearly is popular with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7985">TS</a>]

02:13:08   nobody except the actual stakeholders in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7988">TS</a>]

02:13:11   the ISPs yet I don't hear a man you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7991">TS</a>]

02:13:16   I see an uproar among my colleagues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7996">TS</a>]

02:13:19   the verb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7999">TS</a>]

02:13:19   like Neil I and right and those guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/7999">TS</a>]

02:13:21   strongly against if I don't I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8001">TS</a>]

02:13:23   I just don't see a ton of people talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:27   about it no no well I guess that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8007">TS</a>]

02:13:30   know for the most part it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8010">TS</a>]

02:13:31   hit the masses until if if and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8011">TS</a>]

02:13:34   actually starts being abused right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8014">TS</a>]

02:13:37   you start getting creepily super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8017">TS</a>]

02:13:40   targeted stuff from comcast that saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8020">TS</a>]

02:13:43   what you were looking at on WebMD right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8023">TS</a>]

02:13:45   and you know part of a pill for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:47   part of it though is that we are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8027">TS</a>]

02:13:50   beings we're like frogs being slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8030">TS</a>]

02:13:52   boiled to death with the creepy stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8032">TS</a>]

02:13:54   do see where you know it's still getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8034">TS</a>]

02:13:57   worse although I think ever since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8037">TS</a>]

02:13:59   installed content blockers on Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8039">TS</a>]

02:14:03   it's it's actually for me personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8043">TS</a>]

02:14:04   it's gotten better but I know my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8044">TS</a>]

02:14:06   has just tell me the other day where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8046">TS</a>]

02:14:08   clicked on one thing for one product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8048">TS</a>]

02:14:10   now all of the ads she sees everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8050">TS</a>]

02:14:12   for that product and it was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8052">TS</a>]

02:14:14   innocuous I forget what it was I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8054">TS</a>]

02:14:17   even remember it was it was not like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8057">TS</a>]

02:14:18   a you know anyway sensitive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8058">TS</a>]

02:14:20   embarrassing product but it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8060">TS</a>]

02:14:22   just unbelievable though the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8062">TS</a>]

02:14:24   sites that were showing her ads for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8064">TS</a>]

02:14:26   thing that she had clicked on one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8066">TS</a>]

02:14:27   on one site well it speaks to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8067">TS</a>]

02:14:31   effectiveness or lack thereof of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8071">TS</a>]

02:14:34   advertising that that is immediately the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:36   most effective ad you could possibly see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8076">TS</a>]

02:14:39   is yeah for the website you were just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8079">TS</a>]

02:14:41   but well alright anything else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8081">TS</a>]

02:14:45   wanted to talk about this week which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8085">TS</a>]

02:14:47   seems like it's time to wrap it up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8087">TS</a>]

02:14:50   getting pumped for the second Chicago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8090">TS</a>]

02:14:53   Cubs World Series in a row but have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8093">TS</a>]

02:14:56   been on since the Cubs won the series I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8096">TS</a>]

02:14:58   don't think you had I don't think so oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8098">TS</a>]

02:15:00   no congratulations here we are opening a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8100">TS</a>]

02:15:03   opening day oh sweet Maya and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8103">TS</a>]

02:15:06   currently first placed in the vox media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8106">TS</a>]

02:15:08   tournament bracket but we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8108">TS</a>]

02:15:11   happens hmm yeah opening day coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8111">TS</a>]

02:15:13   very excited I've got a I was I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8113">TS</a>]

02:15:16   Vegas before the tournament and I placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8116">TS</a>]

02:15:18   a hundred-dollar prop bet on UNC to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8118">TS</a>]

02:15:21   the whole tournament so I've still got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8121">TS</a>]

02:15:23   that going I think it pays six to one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8123">TS</a>]

02:15:26   eight to one so i've got i'll have a all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8126">TS</a>]

02:15:28   of an eight-hundred-dollar ticket if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8128">TS</a>]

02:15:29   it if they win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8129">TS</a>]

02:15:31   cool we'll have to go collect yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8131">TS</a>]

02:15:34   be a good use of that eat on a dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8134">TS</a>]

02:15:38   you can actually say all desert last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8138">TS</a>]

02:15:42   week uh for a day and that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8142">TS</a>]

02:15:47   fun just for work but it was like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8147">TS</a>]

02:15:49   should do 24 hours in Vegas more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8149">TS</a>]

02:15:51   yeah it's a good Town to dip your toes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8151">TS</a>]

02:15:54   in it is i've done that i had a flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8154">TS</a>]

02:15:58   one time we were flying to van Amy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8158">TS</a>]

02:15:59   refined a Vancouver and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8159">TS</a>]

02:16:02   direct flights and so and it just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8162">TS</a>]

02:16:05   long way from Philadelphia so we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8165">TS</a>]

02:16:07   flew to Vegas spent one night in Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8167">TS</a>]

02:16:08   and woke up at noon and fluid Vancouver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8168">TS</a>]

02:16:10   the next day it was total fines awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8170">TS</a>]

02:16:12   total fun nice whereas most cities you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8172">TS</a>]

02:16:16   feel like you can't possibly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8176">TS</a>]

02:16:18   really get any anything out of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8178">TS</a>]

02:16:21   if you're only there for you know 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8181">TS</a>]

02:16:25   hours total whereas Vegas you can easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8185">TS</a>]

02:16:27   he could easily say I've had enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8187">TS</a>]

02:16:29   had a good time and I'm done I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8189">TS</a>]

02:16:31   to go um Cubs I can't believe that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8191">TS</a>]

02:16:35   still can't believe that they won that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8195">TS</a>]

02:16:36   mean it I I can't either and it also was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8196">TS</a>]

02:16:39   completely ruined by the election a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8199">TS</a>]

02:16:41   later so I know that I that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8201">TS</a>]

02:16:44   really screwed by that that it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8204">TS</a>]

02:16:47   day that was like it never hit me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8207">TS</a>]

02:16:51   joy never really hit me and then I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8211">TS</a>]

02:16:53   the wind knocked out of me you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8213">TS</a>]

02:16:55   now some days I'm like oh yeah the cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8215">TS</a>]

02:16:58   were in the World Series it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8218">TS</a>]

02:17:00   like playing the plane the lottery you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8220">TS</a>]

02:17:03   know every day for 108 years and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8223">TS</a>]

02:17:07   winning and then you finally win big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8227">TS</a>]

02:17:09   did you get the money you get mugged for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8229">TS</a>]

02:17:11   the money as you're walking out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8231">TS</a>]

02:17:13   place where they do by bus yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8233">TS</a>]

02:17:16   know man cums look good again that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8236">TS</a>]

02:17:20   problem the scary part about the Cubs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8240">TS</a>]

02:17:22   that it was clear even just two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8242">TS</a>]

02:17:24   ago that they that that was that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8244">TS</a>]

02:17:27   team with with the team with legs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8247">TS</a>]

02:17:30   the talent on that team yep and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8250">TS</a>]

02:17:34   schwarber back this year well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8254">TS</a>]

02:17:35   usually that's the to me was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8255">TS</a>]

02:17:37   amazing thing and I've said this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8257">TS</a>]

02:17:39   I don't know if everybody in a anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8259">TS</a>]

02:17:41   wants to tune out for the sports ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8261">TS</a>]

02:17:42   you can turn out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8262">TS</a>]

02:17:43   there's two types of sports fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8263">TS</a>]

02:17:45   fundamentally numbers numbers people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8265">TS</a>]

02:17:48   story people and like that you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8268">TS</a>]

02:17:50   the numbers people are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8270">TS</a>]

02:17:52   sabermetrics people and they like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8272">TS</a>]

02:17:53   you know that you know using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8273">TS</a>]

02:17:55   spreadsheets to pick their fantasy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8275">TS</a>]

02:17:57   and whatever I I love math I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8277">TS</a>]

02:17:59   good at math and when I was in school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8279">TS</a>]

02:18:01   kind of like the stats of sports but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8281">TS</a>]

02:18:04   me the reason I like to still like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:06   watch another the stories I liked it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8286">TS</a>]

02:18:08   it's it and I don't care if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8288">TS</a>]

02:18:11   sabermetrics better explains who wins I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8291">TS</a>]

02:18:13   like the stories as an explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8293">TS</a>]

02:18:15   who wins and of course twenty-twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8295">TS</a>]

02:18:17   hindsight but to me the moment I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8297">TS</a>]

02:18:19   that the cubs were going to win was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8299">TS</a>]

02:18:20   schwarber came back it's who comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8300">TS</a>]

02:18:24   from like a terrible injury and months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8304">TS</a>]

02:18:26   of not even swinging a bat and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8306">TS</a>]

02:18:28   first re-entry into the sport is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8308">TS</a>]

02:18:31   highest possible level the World Series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8311">TS</a>]

02:18:33   and then the guy de knocks the shit out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8313">TS</a>]

02:18:36   of the ball for the whole series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8316">TS</a>]

02:18:38   it's crazy it defies everything I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8318">TS</a>]

02:18:42   about professional baseball which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8322">TS</a>]

02:18:43   that for hitting even if you're super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8323">TS</a>]

02:18:46   talented and you're athletically in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8326">TS</a>]

02:18:48   prime of your career your timing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8328">TS</a>]

02:18:50   everything and it's the whole reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8330">TS</a>]

02:18:52   they have this month long spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8332">TS</a>]

02:18:53   training is that getting your timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8333">TS</a>]

02:18:55   down is intricate and it's so easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8335">TS</a>]

02:18:58   lost and it's the worst thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8338">TS</a>]

02:18:59   getting hurt even for like six weeks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8339">TS</a>]

02:19:02   that you come back and you're sure your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8342">TS</a>]

02:19:03   needs better now but your timing is off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8343">TS</a>]

02:19:05   and when people are throwing the ball at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8345">TS</a>]

02:19:08   you at 97 miles an hour your timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8348">TS</a>]

02:19:10   being off just a little bit is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8350">TS</a>]

02:19:12   done and schwarber comes back and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8352">TS</a>]

02:19:15   unbelievable I've amazing I I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8355">TS</a>]

02:19:19   want to go watch that game now it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8359">TS</a>]

02:19:21   me that's what made me think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8361">TS</a>]

02:19:22   were going to win because the story just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8362">TS</a>]

02:19:24   fit it's like it's it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8364">TS</a>]

02:19:26   the Cinderella Cinderella story you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8366">TS</a>]

02:19:28   the kid comes back you know because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8368">TS</a>]

02:19:30   a heartbreaker would have been if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8370">TS</a>]

02:19:31   hadn't played in the World Series right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8371">TS</a>]

02:19:32   you get in the injury and and you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8372">TS</a>]

02:19:36   the Cubs and the Cubs win her first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8376">TS</a>]

02:19:37   world series in four hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8377">TS</a>]

02:19:38   seventy-seven years and and you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8378">TS</a>]

02:19:41   get to play but instead he came back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8381">TS</a>]

02:19:43   the most dramatic fashion possible so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8383">TS</a>]

02:19:45   anyway congratulations I can can't say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8385">TS</a>]

02:19:48   don't have any bones to pick with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8388">TS</a>]

02:19:49   Cubs I'm glad I will do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8389">TS</a>]

02:19:54   that would be the worst to flip Cubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8394">TS</a>]

02:19:59   turn into a dynasty Oh jerks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8399">TS</a>]

02:20:01   Yankees yeah they're there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8401">TS</a>]

02:20:05   supposed to be a loveable loser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8405">TS</a>]

02:20:06   franchise I think I think we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8406">TS</a>]

02:20:09   another 100 years now I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8409">TS</a>]

02:20:11   that that's possible I don't know look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8411">TS</a>]

02:20:13   at the socks the socks you know broke a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8413">TS</a>]

02:20:15   long streak in an eight Dave I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8415">TS</a>]

02:20:17   socks of one more room world's here who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8417">TS</a>]

02:20:19   can stand them who can nobody there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8419">TS</a>]

02:20:21   word nobody yeah they're the worst all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8421">TS</a>]

02:20:24   right thank you dan frommer everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8424">TS</a>]

02:20:26   can check you out on twitter at from-- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8426">TS</a>]

02:20:28   dome it's a great twitter account and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8428">TS</a>]

02:20:30   they could see your work and work your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8430">TS</a>]

02:20:33   fine staff at a tree Grieco dotnet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8433">TS</a>]

02:20:36   recode done remember you used that beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8436">TS</a>]

02:20:39   with recode that was hilarious as a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8439">TS</a>]

02:20:41   before I got there what was my brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8441">TS</a>]

02:20:42   with Rico remember there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8442">TS</a>]

02:20:45   issues where they wouldn't call this oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8445">TS</a>]

02:20:46   yeah I mean first of all the the slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8446">TS</a>]

02:20:50   in the name which I got rid of but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8450">TS</a>]

02:20:51   there was something worth I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8451">TS</a>]

02:20:55   my former colleagues was not citing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8455">TS</a>]

02:20:58   properly and know what was a phase where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8458">TS</a>]

02:21:01   you would just call it recode I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8461">TS</a>]

02:21:02   some website or something like right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8462">TS</a>]

02:21:07   was actually I think three years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8467">TS</a>]

02:21:09   we're bringing back three year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8469">TS</a>]

02:21:11   Twitter beef but uh blog beef all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8471">TS</a>]

02:21:14   anyways I code dotnet it was instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8474">TS</a>]

02:21:19   referring to daring fireball it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8479">TS</a>]

02:21:20   a Mac website Jack fan blog I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8480">TS</a>]

02:21:25   something like that and so yeah I spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8485">TS</a>]

02:21:29   it's been a couple of months I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8489">TS</a>]

02:21:31   had a beef in a while that was fun and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8491">TS</a>]

02:21:33   just called us I just called them some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8493">TS</a>]

02:21:35   website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzdkCqQ/8495">TS</a>]