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00:00:00 ◼   ► maybe you can switch to maybe maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► have sufficient girth to do a one-legged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► thing where like instead of putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► lot of talk on both legs can it can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5">TS</a>]

00:00:07 ◼   ► can it sit on one leg you could have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► laptop on each leg you would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► wielding cool I think we're all set so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/11">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► have notes on everything that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► but I didn't check the notes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/18">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► doctor okay yes your own personal notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/19">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► well guess what I have notes shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► notes follow up you of course you do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/25">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► can breathe we can breeze through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► these are all quick oh why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► again Marco into a long tangent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► your deep 20-minute feelings in each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► of these items we can get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► shots fired its gonna be like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► would like you to listen to recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► episodes and see what percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► follow-up items IE MIT a single word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► about yeah but it just takes one it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► takes one it gets you going and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► becomes half the show anyway we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/53">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► through this quickly because marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► not interested oh my god every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► say that all that means is everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► looking at the chapter mark to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► the first stop it begins look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► chapter markers just just listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► show just be just experienced the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► be in the mom be the show be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► moment alright so Stephen Empson rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► in case nobody mentioned turns out turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► out the Wii U gamepad had less display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► lag than most TVs and we'll put a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► links in the show notes John you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► only one of us with wii u i believe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► you want to tell us about this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► John's the only one with a wii u yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► very well maybe yeah it was last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► where I was saying that I like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► the gamepad for Mario Kart because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► felt like there was actually less live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► than a TV which seems crazy because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► is wirelessly sending video to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► so i actually i had read this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► back when I came out I just forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► because I'm old apparently it's measured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► to be about 33 milliseconds of lag for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► the video on the Wii U gamepad which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► sounds like a lot until you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► TVs especially TVs that are either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► in game mode or can't get into a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► game mode that where they turn off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► the image processing the input lag for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► TVs especially if you went through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► receiver and then through a TV can be up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► to like 100 milliseconds so I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► imagining it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► it is very likely that my complete TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► set up as configured at the time i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► doing this is actually slower than using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► the wii u gamepad itself so good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► Nintendo I minimizing that lag bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► whole rest of the AV industry on having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► horrendous leg input lag for television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► set ups what's the mechanism that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► video is being broadcasted gamepad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► that like a private Wi-Fi or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► yeah I think it's like an h.264 stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► over wireless thing I think the prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► Terry I don't think it is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► liberal Wi-Fi but I don't know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► so it could be like a is an airdrop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► a peer-to-peer thing that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► stood up just in the moment and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► destroyed after you transfer the file or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► files or something like that maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► maybe it's one of those sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► scenarios who knows mm-hmm fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► right in this in the interest of speedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► follow-up for the first time ever tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► us what happened with your Zelda HUD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► playing zelda as everybody knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► Zelda does have a HUD so is every pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► Zelda game they always have something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► the screen that's showing like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► mini map or like Skyward Sword had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► giant honking picture of the wiimote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► which you could turn off and I did turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► off a little status indicators a breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► of the wild has the traditional line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► hearts in the upper left hand corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► the lower right it's got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► circular map thing and some other little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► icons underneath the hearts it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► couple of other items that appear as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► progress through the game don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► spoil anything for people problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► those items is that they are white much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► of the time one hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► completely opaque white and my TV hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► that and so after playing breath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► wild friday now 20 or 30 hours i noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► i'm getting into retention in the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► left corner for the white items luckily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► breath of the wild has a HUD option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► which i saw when i first start playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► the game because of course being a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► i always go into all the options first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► before starting anything and they called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► they call it the pro HUD which turns off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► basically everything except for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► hearts and i said well i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► turn everything off it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► minimal HUD to begin with it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► minimal very pushed off to the side so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► it's nice but and i like seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► thing someone were useful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/247">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► interesting the compass direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► stuff like that so i left and on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► turned out to have been mistakes now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► using the pro HUD which only shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► hearts the hearts are one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► percent britt red and opaque so they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► causing some heart-shaped image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► retention in the upper left but they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► vary a little bit as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► take damage at the very least and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► hundred percent red is much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► hundred percent white so I'm not kicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► Zelda off my TV yet and moving it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► to the the gaming monitor or anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► think I'm just going to accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► amount of image pension because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► from our destiny experiment that yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► will get image retention but it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► permanent if you're merely wait a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► it will go away and someone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► suggesting that I get OLED oh let also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► has image retention guess what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► if you had brought a TV with a proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► technology that doesn't have image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► retention this would have been a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► easier but no you had to have you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► have the blackest black sand the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► you stop saying even LCDs have image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► retention mine has it mine has it worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► yeah well and and vibrant colors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► seriously on my gaming monitor it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► such an incredible difference in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► the game looks like compared to what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► looks like on tv and breadth of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► while it's the type of game they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► experience and if there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► HUD in breadth of the wild it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► actually pretty darn minimal so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► to see the full rich experience and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► get the 5.1 surround sound with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► they don't take that much advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► what the speakers are better anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► not kicking it off yet we'll check back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► in next week fair enough Carsten Weiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► maybe vice rights in to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► high-end desktop processors which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► really don't care that much about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► money you can take this this is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► reference to be asking Oh a shelf if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► Intel makes any processors that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► Zeon's that have more than four cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► that in theory could be used in an iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► and Marco said no and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► tweeted that actually they make these a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► bunch of processors within decipherable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► numeric alphanumeric names that have 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► cores and eight cores and six scores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► other people trying done on Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► say actually those are basically two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► Zeon's rebranded and rename but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► ECC ram and different chipsets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► require them either way it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► however you want to slice it there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► other options that are not the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► the processors in the mac pro that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► could put in the imac if we wanted to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► maybe if they make an imac pro instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► of having a xeon in there they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► have one of these in between easy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► things which would be kind of cruddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► because i really want ECC ram so I from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► you know if I'm going to pay for an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► pro but anyway I'll buy whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► put out because what the hell choice do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► I have yea sorry I'm going to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► Sean during follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► this is the x 99 series that people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► talking about I honestly don't know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► about it I had it in the back of my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► and just forgotten about it but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like if if you're going to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► trouble of having a very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► processor that puts out a lot of heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► and needs a big socket and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► else like why not just use eons at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► point like I bet the engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► constraints and cost constraints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► everything else around using these is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► probably not that different from just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► using Zeon's in the first place which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► probably why apple doesn't just put one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► of these in an imac Jason Breckenridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► rights in to say more about the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► a macro delay is likely due to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/433">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► AMD to produce something that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► leverage to get intel xeon prices down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21 ◼   ► that seems bold to me but anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► continues margins are everything in Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► Cook's Apple not sure how you can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► that but I'll continue especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► low-volume products maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► what do you guys I put this in here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► not to address it directly but just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► the larger issue because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/456">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► interesting to me that the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► on this show seemed to all come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► sort of no I'm going to say unspoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► agreement but chances are we spoke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► it because we talked about the knife bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► a lot agreement that there is no new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► Pro coming and yet when I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► like when listeners right in or tweet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► whatever there is still a contingent out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► there that is on a different page than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► we are that they believe that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► delay like the Mac but there is a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► pro delay the new Mac Pro is coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► maybe i'm wrong but do we all basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► do the three of us like obviously we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► don't know we're just guessing right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► do we all kind of agree there is no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/496">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► mac pro coming in in the terms that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► understand it to be basically like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► thing that you buy from apple that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► their their fastest computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► doesn't have a screen attached to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► don't know your your the yearly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/509">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► you're the one holdout I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► Marco agrees right yeah pretty much I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► been on the page for a while that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► like there is no new Mac Pro coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► all I'm thinking of is low you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► the way that we understand it I'm I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► hundred percent pinning my hopes on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/528">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► mac pro at this point but the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► like so many people right into talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► about what do we think the next Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► is going to be and what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► delaying the next Mac Pro and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► like writing back saying I I've lost my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► faith like I what what new Mac Pro what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► are you even talking about it's there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► no new Mac Pro the rebel never will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► new mac pro except for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► different than in terms of yet again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► when I say it I'm talking about a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► that you buy that doesn't have a monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► built into it from apple that is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► fastest computer I think that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► gone yeah i mean like all right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► i've been using this imac since 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► because it it just fit my overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/561">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► desires better like I really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► retina like I desperately want a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► retina and I thought for years that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► was it was further away and so and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► when they released the 5k imac it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► it blew my mind and it was so good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► it still is so good you know I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► then like okay I will trade some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► processing power and I will trade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► freedom of this external cylinder or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► tower and having it separate my monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► I'll trade that for this awesome screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► experience and the time there really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► no great way to get 5k externally now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► well maybe you could argue that the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/598">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► still sucks so badly that make me maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► there still isn't agree we can fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► external in that is what broke me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► recall that was the end I was like I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► I accept I accept it up you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► me and no uncertain terms give up yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/614">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► maybe I don't anyway so I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► problem is like I hear from various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► tipsters and rumors and birdies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► everything else I hear a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► like every month every month I here oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► the mac pro is really dead this time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► oh no it's not dead yet it's coming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► know they're they're starting up a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► thing yeah but every time I hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► like I think does what I'm hearing fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► into the idea of an imac pro and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► time i go that totally could be an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► bro all i want is for them to address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► high-end needs and for the current imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► series as we know it to not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► highest they ever go because it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► limited in you know limiting itself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► the primarily for core desktop line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► not having desktop class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► high-powered GPU support and desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► class high-powered CPU support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► workstation class i should say cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► support you know there's there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► ceiling above the current imac series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► and it isn't just about getting a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► clock speed on single core it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► like like if you want if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► multi-core performance which lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► things use these days it isn't it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► a matter of just wait till next year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► imac and the four core line will be will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► be good enough that a mac pro won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► necessary it's literally like the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► grows like five or ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► performance a year and a mac pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► more cores could have like it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► like six times the performance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► that's that's the difference we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► talking about here it's not it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► something that we can just wait a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► years and the need goes away because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► couple years down the road the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► multi-core high-power workstation chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► have gotten better too so this having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► having a gap like there's a big gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► between what the imac can do and what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► computer that has a much higher power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► and heat budget and and money budget can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► do and that use for the Mac Pro and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► it's it's kind of gone and that huge gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/733">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► is just being unserved and the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► who need that huge gap are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► windows and hackintosh is another crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► like that that's what I hope Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► addresses whether it has a screen built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► into it or not I would prefer if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► didn't just for additional flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► but I don't really I'm not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► massively disappointed if they give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► new high-end 16 core xeon workstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/758">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► that happens to have a 5k screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► front of it which is by the way the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► screen i've ever seen yeah I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► like now that I know there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► third-party monitor that's what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50 ◼   ► the imac pro so much more palatable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► me because i will still have an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► monitor that's what i want and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/773">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► just paying my hopes on the insides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► that I Mac Pro being all that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► be right here to you to you have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► your talking privileges revoked for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► remainder of follow-up I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► get things quickly and then I said those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► two curse it goddamn words Mac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► then everything took a turn as it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► uh anyway I mean in our defense I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/795">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► pretty sure you started it well I died I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/799">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► didn't put this in the show notes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► did I reading this I was dutifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► reading John's show notes and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► where we ended up so anyway we'll move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► on to talk about how Americans are cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► so Jake rights in to say I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► tell you all what I've seen with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► family member that has been in education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► for almost 30 years and this person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43 ◼   ► family member works for a 12,000 student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► school district in America in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► district there several schools need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► repairs or renovation keep students safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► over the last two years the district has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► presented referendum which goes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► public vote to the public which gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► voted down a secondary referendum for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► lesser amount of money which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► voted down and now there's a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► referendum on the table the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► referendum has a lot of opposition this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► time at this time and according to Jake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► they don't play nice so Jake summarizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► people aren't really not fond of taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► being raised sport education I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► this every day for the last uh decade or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► two of my life even when kids safety is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► on the line there is still opposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► it's really sad and this is an exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► retelling of my childhood in in n what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/868">TS</a>]

00:14:32 ◼   ► now how do I say this because however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► it's i pronounced it apparently everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► was very very upset just putting the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► just putting the emphasis on the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► syllable that's all right what what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42 ◼   ► flight attendant movie was that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► actually saw but that preview that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► on the initials is very popular I parted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► back in middle schools i don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► original origin asst and anyway i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► fluent is what you're trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► thank you so you said about yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► apparently and very there were a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► people it's probably an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► pronunciations because everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► yeah i always have that defense you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► look it up I'm sure I'm sure that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► but whatever so affluent is that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► yep anyway it doesn't matter whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► lived into an area that had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► rich people in it so there we go so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► point is this was the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► behavior that I saw at my school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► district which we went over last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► we had several other people right in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► say very very similar things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► equally depressing and this was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► really great summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► how Americans are cheap and and I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► all of us so i just thought i'd share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► that little anecdote speaking of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► that we won't talk long about at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► quite sure twitter twitter if it for mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► the kickstarter made it and the stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► goal of 100 thousand dollars to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► basic things like direct messaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► support also made it which is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► exciting so congratulations John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► Syracuse the this moment is yours yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► this is a right victory lap for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► project and for all of the listeners to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► this show who I'm sure heard my plea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► pledged support and it amazes me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► was just at the goal I set for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► says ignore the fact that the goal is 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► grand the stretch goals 100 grand and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► need to get that because that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► like direct messages come in as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► I love terrific I really don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► use a mac Twitter client doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► direct messages so we did it 108,000 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► the total we passed 100 k as a marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/976">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► was pointing out now I have to pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► money that I pledged towards it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► there are a lot of people i know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► twitter told me that not only did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► pledge because they heard my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► encouragement to do so but they also up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► their pledges when they saw that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► wasn't close to its goal or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► thank you to everybody who did that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► sure this will turn out great the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► the one bad thing for me is that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► course I can't alright may not be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► to run this project if it's Sarah only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► until and unless I get a new mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► runs I mean it's not supposed to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► until much later nice is really is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► be not as expensive Twitter client ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► free huh yeah well I want to get the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► mac anyway but gonna be a few bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► Twitter and average for tweet button key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► thousand bucks for a new mac i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► lobbying them through certain channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► to perhaps try to support back dale cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► but i don't know if that will happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► either way I want a new mac the run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► Sierra and I want to be able to run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► thing and it's not done yet so fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► crossed everybody but thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► everybody who helped this is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► congratulations John siracusa I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► very very excited for you I know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► was uh this was a big deal for you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► just use tweetbot but that's cool Cirie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► has multi-language support several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► people wrote in with regard to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► ladies in the cylinder conversation last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► episode to remind us that in it is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► needed a reminder that that what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► the the the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► which I'm stumbling so hard to say our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► name yes the echoes lady I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► to say the AL exa word um the echoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► lady does not have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► multi-language support whereas the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► lady does have considerable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► comparison multi-language support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► that's a big deal for anyone who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► speak English and obviously we tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► be more myopic than we intend when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► comes to these sorts of things but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► people outside of the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► Britain etc Australia to before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► people emailing us about that um people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► outside those areas you know the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► choice I really have a Serie and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► kind of a big bummer so anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► worth considering we didn't really give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► any thought to that last episode what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► it wasn't uh somebody wrote in to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► onto the they will actually for the some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► someone run in there in a foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► country and they said that they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► speak to whatever thing they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► speaking to in their native language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► they had to pronounce things the way an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► English feature English speaker would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► try to say the words in their language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► in order to be understood which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► thought was interesting that like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► though it purports to understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► language if you speak sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► colloquially and just like casually as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you would it doesn't work as well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► think like how would an American trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► to speak my language say this and say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► that way then then the cylinder picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► out which I thought was funny I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► it's working on works the same way here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► you kind of think like how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► somebody in California say this like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► way I say it never works right you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► gotta add in a groovy and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► whatever the other lingos reckon can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► get me a Jaguar with an automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► transmission Wow that'll work perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► don't forget the passive aggression no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► mean so I think what about what bugs me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► about a lot of the times i see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► pointed out is when it's used as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► defense for areas in which siri is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► doing so well or as stupider than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► should be so to me these should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► carefully considered as separate factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► yes sirree is better at international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1183">TS</a>]

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00:26:40 ◼   ► you know if I could just use a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► newspaper delivery trucks that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► better but the the torrential downpour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► of trucks was the only thing I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► work in a reliable fashion from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► airport Wi-Fi that I was on and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► plane was taking off in like a half hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► and I just had to get something quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► so I installed a type of torrential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► downpour truck that I had trusted in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► past even though I knew that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► that they I heard they kind of got shady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► with bundling smaller satellite trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► with it install yahoo search toolbar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► your browser installed java it did set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► my homepage to yahoo and all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► browsers that's the stuff and on my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► mac i have an older version of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► truck that has note i downloaded years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► ago that has no problems but on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► the new version that i could get off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► website quickly it did a bunch of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► stuff that I don't trust and so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► of this I now consider my 15 inch touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► bar macbook pro compromised and I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► to format it and reinstall basically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► my own sanity do you guys remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► made my curly quit his job oh god it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► him having to buy a new pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► shoelaces and yet how does that justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► you getting a new damn computer I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► gonna say to remind everybody this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► about him forgetting to download a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► show and trying to do to the airport is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► going to lead to him buying a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► computer just whoever's on the same page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► all right so basically the gist of it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► I can summarize my curly story about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► he of what made him finally quit a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► become a professional podcasters is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► he he was going to his his office job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► where he had to dress up and he broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► the shoelace on his shoe and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► thinking acquitting for a while and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► finally pushed him over the edge because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► he's like you know I I don't want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► a new pair of shoelaces for these shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► because it was kind of like reinforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► and reinvesting in the world he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► was not happy with and trying to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► so you decided to just stop at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► point I'm sorry if you butch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► I bunch of that in case you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► offhand what episode of analog people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► should listen to no i don't but i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► have it in the show notes okay i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► remember which episode it is but we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► into detail about this and it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► one of the better episodes of analog if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► i do say so myself so it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► listening to ok so when faced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► need to reformat my 15 inch touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► macbook pro at the end of this trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► probably the third or fourth trip I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► taken it on I was already not loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► this computer on this trip in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► things about it that I that I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► bought it I was like you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► love this but I'll get used to it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► and some of those things I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► used to decently enough some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► things I haven't I I just have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► motivation to fix this computer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► though it's a software you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► reinstall the OS which I have to do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► if I get a new one I will then start on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► a fresh one and then I'll have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► know put everything back on that one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► don't want to this this is my shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► and I don't want to fix this laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► because I just don't like it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► finally admitting to myself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► what the 15 inch touch bar macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► it's not a bad computer it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► designed with different priorities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► different needs than what my needs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► priorities actually are and i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► would get past it i thought i'd get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► to it and I thought certain things would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► would stick better than they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► for me honestly the touch bar doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► work for me it may be down the road it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► will but right now it doesn't and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► it causes a lot of problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► accidentally brushing against it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► other issues bugs incident so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► I thought you know what I can't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► anymore i'm going to switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► computer that i actually like and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► original plan was i'm going to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► the next update to the macbook one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► give that a solid try again because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► that when i first got the first one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► really hated it part of the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► hated it was the keyboard but well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► they all have that keyboard and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► like well I i I'm forcibly getting used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► to that keyboard it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► well that's that that is kind of now an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► equal between them almost I mean though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► the one on the map book one currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► has less feedback it is still the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► low travel but it has less feedback then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► the ones that are on the new 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► macbook pros I'm used to that one now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► MacBook Pros I still don't like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► I'm used to it so I can tolerate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► and I was assuming that the next update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► to the macbook one would get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► keyboard also the original map book one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► I mean all the map ones are very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► but in in the 2016 update was it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► dramatically increased the speed of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► SSD which it which dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► increases the performance of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► things in the system and so the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► what owners have reported basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that the the second version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► macbook one which is the one that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► on for about a year now is significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► faster than the first version was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► thanks tipster the GPU is also a lot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► lot faster which also helps so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► thought you know let me just wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► that and then I'll make a decision well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► I'm about to go on a trip in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► couple of weeks to Ireland to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► all-conference and like like Arthur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► friends I will pimp the OL conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► not because they've asked me to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► because I feel obligated to but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► if you are anywhere near Ireland or can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► get to Ireland in a couple of weeks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► should go to the all-conference it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► amazing so go to the old conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► everybody ull dot IE is cool anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► going to Ireland this is the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► kind of trip where I want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► laptop with me but I don't really get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► lot of work done I'm trips anymore I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► I always try and I just I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► it's very rare that actually get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► of work done since the 15-inch was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► for me i speaking you know this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► a great time to have a new smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► laptop to try to use to enjoy and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► the 15-inch is not working for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► lots of reasons and one of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► reasons is the touch bar that really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► not working for me I think my choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► were basically the macbook law under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► macbook escape or an old macbook pro you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► know like I can get the old 13 of the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► already have my old 15 so I took out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► old 15 figured I'd boot that up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► little bit use that for a couple days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► see how that goes and it's fine but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► ruin now for the weight difference on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► the new one even though going from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► old to the new 15 is only a half pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► savings went from like four point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► to four point oh that's enough that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► ruin me so now I pick up the old one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09 ◼   ► it and it feels really old the then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► the event or the announcements rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► the other day yesterday the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► came out and I thought apple is sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► update the macbook one so let me wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► for this announcement and then I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► probably just order a macbook one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► with the new hopefully with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► keyboard and with the new you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► maybe faster Thunder maybe Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► until just us bc or whatever else okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► was going to do the same thing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► record i had every intention of buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► myself a macbook adorable / macbook 1 / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► officially called macbook the 12 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► macbook but right i was planning to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► one yesterday i was locked and loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► ready to go and then not so much so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► did you do see I I know how I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► to not spend money but if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► anything you know how to do it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► spending money is not on that list you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► you do not know how to not spend money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► all I can do is rationalize spending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► little bit less money than I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► to spend anyway but anyway the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► day came and went they had their big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► browser press releases which people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► to don't worry everyone will get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► and they didn't release basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► anything I wanted but but yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► didn't they didn't release the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► one so I decided you know what let me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► to the apple store now that everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► in stock I'll spend some real time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► the macbook escape and the macbook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► side by side and to just see like should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► I just wait for an escape or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► strikers by an escape now or should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► wait for the map of one update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► might happen in a couple of weeks or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► might happen in six months or it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► never happen we have not liked it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► is modern Apple who knows when things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► will come out there's no relation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► anymore to like Intel schedules so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► could come out anytime or never so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► anyway so I went to the store side by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► side macbook escape to MacBook one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► weight difference between them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► noticeable it's two pounds versus three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► pounds so it's a noticeable weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► difference it's a noticeable size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► difference but the macbook Escape is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► same approximate size and weight as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook air has always been it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► feels great it's small you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► critically it is basically a retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► macbook air in its internals and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► has amazing battery life the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► battery life in the whole lineup and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► of my problems with the 15 inches that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► the battery life is just not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► it's it's not horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► all but it's not great and it varies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► tremendously with what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► because it has that high-powered GPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► the nice big four core cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► everything else so 15 inch varies a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► and isn't even great to begin with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► macbook escape has and by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► should clarify my stupid name for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► that's the 13-inch MacBook Pro 2016 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► two Thunderbolt ports and also known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► the non-touch bar 13 inch MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► all these want to see at my name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► better than apples right okay so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► the macbook escape it is not as small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► and light as I would love it to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► it's pretty small in light the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► one now again this is this is the now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► year old version so maybe this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► change in the new one but the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► different side by side is not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► difference but it is noticeable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► macbook one keyboard is worse by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► know a noticeable amount the ergonomic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► difference is more noticeable than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► would have guessed you know the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► one feels great when you're holding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► when you pick it up when you when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► carrying it around feels great I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► care for how you have to open the lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► basically with two hands because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► thin and so small that you kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► can't really like wed your thumb under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► like the little lip area and push down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► on what's below it like you can with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► bigger ones you don't have to that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► babbles all big thing you can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► one hand and the bass stays down yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► does it really does i tried all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► the apple store on them amazing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► often how it works actually try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► you're right that it's hard to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► finger under it but it's if you'd let go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► of the notion you actually need to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► the base down and you can manage to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► through a little finger under the lip I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► swear to you that the base will stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► the table oh I don't realize that okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► anyway so it didn't feel as good it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► like a little bit like flimsy to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► like just like it's not a huge deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► when you compare them side-by-side it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► an obvious difference also when i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► the macbook escape for like a day and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► half when it first came inside of epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► 14 day and a half and a first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► one problem i had with it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► actually on my lap it was too narrow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► it would likes it too low on my legs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► a result like it wouldn't quite span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► across my leg gap quite well enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► i actually found it not that pleasant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► use on my lap it would be great on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► an airplane tray table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► and it'd be totally you know suitable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► a desk and anything else but on my lap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► actually found it was actually not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► wide enough to really be comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► there and and the biggest difference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► me is that the macbook ones trackpad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► truly awful it is horrendous how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► differently when you when you feel them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► side by side even on the same settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► on the same like force touch firmness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► level or whatever the difference in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► cliq feel and the responsiveness between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► the macbook one and the macbook escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► is massive on the on the trackpad it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► huge difference I basically decided then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► that you know I actually don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► want a macbook one again even if it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► updated so i played with the escape a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► little bit longer play with the one a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► little bit longer firm but my decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► went home and ordered a maxed-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► macbook escape except for that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► get the terabyte I got the 512 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► still time for you to cancel that order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► again I already canceled the same order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► 16 months ago I know I'm saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► gonna make it this time is it gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► it I I'll see how it goes and ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► again you know in a couple of weeks what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► are you doing with your with your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► one um once once i'm sure that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► to keep the escape i'll sell the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► unless casey wants it i can sell to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► so you were like the the proverbial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► little lady only drove to church on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► sunday if you want a lightly used yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► laptop for a reasonable price just wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► for Marco to get bored of it exactly oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► goodness I don't even know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► with you though I'm most disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► that you didn't get a macbook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► because I would have bought that off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► you in two weeks or two weeks a day when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► you decide that you don't want this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► but as it turns out that's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► bought but I have the complete opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► of 15 inch no I don't want a 15-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► like that either interest me but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► want that like I I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► it's bad I'm not sad just at today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► my needs today I don't want it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► it what I really want is a new 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► touch bar for work but I'm not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► another computer for work for like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► or three years so alas anyway like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► the reason I got the 15 to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► was that I had originally ordered this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► exact same macbook escape configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2393">TS</a>]

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00:43:15 ◼   ► little bit of talk but not a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2595">TS</a>]

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00:46:31 ◼   ► proposal therefore we reject it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► every time I look at this thing go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► have to think like it's this this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► even actually about of river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► diversity it is totally about the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► that big companies and especially Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► their default position on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► share over the proposal is no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► we have board of directors we are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► bosses of ourselves even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► technically owned the company are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► large portion of the company through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► your shares or whatever there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► enough of you there is not enough of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► coalition to make it worth our while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► listen to you you cannot tell us what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► do and doesn't matter what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► whether it's about you know a renewable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► energy or executive compensation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► diversity over the years and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► these type of proposals and seeing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► the stories about like just Apple read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► it apple always advises to reject all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► them and it's kind of ashamed of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► one is specifically about diversity I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► not sheriff I'm not sure if the proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► it would be better or worse at advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► the cause of diversity with an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► than what Apple is already doing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► difficult to tell because again these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► are you tend to be very focused and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► of not vindictive but like like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► Apple you gotta whatever you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► it's taking too long and it is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► ineffective so here is a more aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► thing that may or may not have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► regard for the success of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► overall just saying look at we gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► off your butt so it could be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► important function of these is to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► Apple no and no in certain terms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► they're not doing a good enough job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► right that and that's why enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► shareholders got together to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► proposal to vote on Apple's still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► to recommend against that Apple still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► going to think their plan is good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► hopefully the message is getting through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► that whatever it is that you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► you're not doing it fast enough or well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► enough but I continue to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► Apple will reject every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► these proposals are Apple Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► encourage the rest of the shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► to reject their mother because these go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► up for a vote for all the shelves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► Apple has a recommendation we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► shareholders should vote this down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► in the end they tend to because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► shareholders of Apple there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► at a certain point it's a small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► of very rich shareholders who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37 ◼   ► inclined to do with the corporation says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► versus a much larger number of not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► as with shareholders who are backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► this type of proposal so it is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► difficult in a comfortable situation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► I think Apple Apple should be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► Apple needs to change what it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► even if it continues to reject all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► continues to encourage its shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► of all these down and those challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:00 ◼   ► continue to do so that's it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► tough situation and I wish that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► was a easy turnkey answer but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► wanted to call attention to that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► breaking news just before we recorded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► a rare stroke of good luck for ATP it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► seems that Apple clearly the executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► listen to this program because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► getting a new Mac Pro wait nevermind I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► guess they don't listen but anyway uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► yeah they seem to all the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► executive seem to always want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► apple news on Thursdays which is the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► after we record but in a rare stroke of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► good luck on this evening like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► or two before we started recording it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► was announced and I first saw it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► TechCrunch my friend of the show Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► Panzer II know that Apple has bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► app and the company that makes it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► workflow which if you listen to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► the shows of some of our friends you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► know that people like my curly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► Federico vtg for example are huge into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► workflow I've used it a bunch i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► like it i'm nowhere near their level but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► i do like it and use it and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► trick just whether or not workflow has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► place in your life it is a phenomenally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► impressive app and basically it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► of kind of like Automator is on OS 10 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► excuse me mac OS that that's not a truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► fair analogy but sort of that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► thing where you can you have a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► different actions that you can string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► together also vaguely similar to if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► than that and you can string these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► actions together to do to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► workflows and and to do these just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► unbelievably complex things so Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► bought workflow and the I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► three founders of the company are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► to be working for apple and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► really really exciting now I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► hearing breaking news that I haven't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► confirmed that apparently they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► already they've already made the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► free good but they're already removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► chrome support and Street View actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► because Apple yeah well actually there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► might be something else to that okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► so a couple of weeks ago or recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► like a week ago so like that I got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► email from workflow I don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► into too many details because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► know if they wanted this to be public or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► not so I'll try to be tasteful here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► basically workflow has supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► overcast URL scheme for quite some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► and I got an email basically with from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► asking me to sign a legal document that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► basically says it's okay for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► call my app via its URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► something on the lines of like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► want us to continue supporting this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► the future please sign this document in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► my best guess at the time which turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► to be true is that somebody is about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► invest a lot of money in them or acquire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► them and is doing due diligence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► somebody's lawyer told the somebody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► all the money bind them or investing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► them you know they should really sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► this up in some kind of legal fashion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► make sure that none of the apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► workflow calls via URL schemes would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► later threaten them in any legal way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► using like an undocumented API or using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► an API without permission or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► like that my best guess with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► immediate removal of the Google related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► features is not that Apple is being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► jerk to Google but the Google probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► just didn't respond and didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► consider signing this document because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► like it's a it's it's it was basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► very very simple but still legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► contract like document I i I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► lawyer I can't tell you exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► was but it looks like a very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► contract so you would imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► emailing Google to say hey sign this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► contract please we can keep calling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► from art from our iOS app like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► think that's going to be a high priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► for Google's legal department to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► but they're usually so responsive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► people it's so out of character for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► exactly so basically I'm guessing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► it again this is not some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► you know Apple immediately being a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► to Google because their Google it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► probably google didn't feel like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► worth responding to that or hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► gotten to it yet or legal decided it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► wasn't worth the the legal implications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► and so you know after the acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► Apple probably just says all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► this is this is your deadline that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► anybody just for legal protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► reasons for themselves anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► hasn't signed this document saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► can call their secret api's or URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► schemes or whatever you can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► anymore that's interesting take yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► the the bigger issue on workflow though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► is like after saw this acquisition what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► I immediately felt was I felt bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► fatigue E and Mike and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► workflow enthusiasts because when apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► buys a company that does something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► this it can go a couple different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► they can be what they call an aqua hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► where the whole point is they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► buying it to get these employees who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► proven that they're really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► iOS developers and so we tap or Apple we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► would love really good iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► let's buy the company and now we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► those developers and then the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► just gets sunsetted becomes free it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► hangs out for a while is it's sunset sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► sat yeah and then it just goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► other possibilities like what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► with test flight where they buy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► it continues to exist but now as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► apple internal thing but here's the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► even in that scenario Apple's priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► are different than the priorities of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► independent workflow company even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► strategy tax things like even though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► this chrome thing is probably not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► right but Apple has different priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► different things are important to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► as the platform owner then they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► someone writing an application on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► platform so even in the best case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► workflow is going to change in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► are better for Apple and probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► better for existing workflow customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► it it could change in ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► better for both because they now work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► all has access to private api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► notice about the roadmap or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► workflow itself could be integrated into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► the next major version of iOS as a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► feature of the OS to stop being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► independent application or become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► bundled application like there are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► scenarios but either way it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► disruption to the workflow of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► people who use this application as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► of their daily work even if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► have to rejigger all your scripts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► change things around so I there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► baby it may be a really bad situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► for people who love workflow but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► someone who has workflow and uses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► little bit but don't have my work is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► intimately tied into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► but I think I'm hoping that it is a yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► another sign that Apple is trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► things to make iOS a more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► platform for people with more demanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► needs because I like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► believe that it was purely these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► are good IRS developers get them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► have them do something I want to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► it's because they recognize that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► people who are using iOS devices in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► in the most sophisticated way love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► workflow and that's something those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► capabilities should be part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► operating system to make iOS on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► or even on the phone for that matter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► more capable system so I think overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► it's encouraging but for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► really really love workflow I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► very near future is either slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► painful or very grim but the longer term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► future for the platform I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► better yeah I think that's right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► the way workflow you know where flow has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► a lot of different features these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► but kind of the core of it and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► part of it before had all these all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► these new like API related features well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► is it was just calling URL schemes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► apps and using X callback URL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► everything else and you know X callback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► URL i I don't I don't say this to brag I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► say this as historical context Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► Pearce that I actually invented that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► that's Greg Pearce is the developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► drafts and and also a couple other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► and one of them is terminology and which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► is like it's like a fancy dictionary app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► basically and back in 2010 he contacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► me asking like is there a way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► can make Instapaper basically shell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► to terminology for its dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► lookups and we we basically went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► and forth over a couple days via email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► and worked out this URL scheme called x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► call back and that and you could just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► had these parameters and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► basically the first thing i knew of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► iOS where there was a defined protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► that you could launch you could sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► to another app VAR URL scheme and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► that app a way to call you back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► it's done at the time i think both of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► look at this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► a tremendous hack and and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► an event and it became big anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► you know and Greg Greg went and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► really kind of took the ball and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► and ran with it and made a whole site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► and directory about X callback URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► formally documented this little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► fairly simple URL scheme spec that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► had come up with and then made this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► directory of all the different apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► used it and document all the URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► and naturally what made the the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► x callback URL take off was that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► site that he ran and publicizing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► everything else but even back then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► is 2010 remember even back then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► both Greg and I looked at it as this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► really a temporary need that surely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► the future iOS is going to add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► better ways of interacting and scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► and things like that like wait other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► other ways to solve this problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► isn't calling URL schemes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► background and launching apps and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► kicking you between different apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► having them all come to the program for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► a second and kick you back like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► kind of a terrible hack and now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► almost seven years later iOS has added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► extensions which helped tremendously but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► only in certain ways like only in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► the extension points and only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► very strict ways those are defined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► in the very limited areas that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► exist in so extensions help a little but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► what they need is something bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► on the Mac they have the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► applescript interface not to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► everything from the UNIX you know system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► below it all the different scripting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► IPC mechanisms that are all over the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► OS like the Mac has it's very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► covered but iOS still really doesn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► there is very much a need if if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► wants to keep pushing iOS into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► productivity which is especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► important for the ipad business i'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► and it sure wouldn't help the icer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► wouldn't hurt the iphone business either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► but to keep it happy wants to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► people into more productivity use on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► they need automation systems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► they need mechanisms in in the in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► itself for apps to communicate with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► other automate each other and for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► you know define write and edit and chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► together those automations and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► know again on the mac that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► know again on the mac that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► while this already have had it for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► decades even if I was a user of workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► I would not feel great about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► of that app right now because in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► acquisition the future of the app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► and this is I think clearly mostly an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► aqua higher and in like the official you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► know story to the press I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► said it wasn't but I think it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► clearly is everyone always says it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► everyone always says their product going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► to keep going indefinitely and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► going to be wonderfully a great plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► the future and then it gets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► sunset so I would not depend on this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► being there in say a year or two but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► do think that there's a good chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► the reason they bought this app and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► you know the reason they hired this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► talented team who's really good at iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► automation probably has something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► with an effort to improve iOS automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► at the system level and again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► pretty much everything John side I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► with that I would not expect this app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► continue to exist in you know two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► say i would bet that you know it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► late probably for iOS 11 but i would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► by iOS 12 or 13 there is something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:14 ◼   ► is some kind of system or new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► in the OS that is better in in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► at automation than URL schemes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► things like that which would make say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► you know seventy percent of workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► unnecessary and Apple would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► that good enough and then they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► kill the app I don't know I my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► reaction is oh this app is going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► immediately and then as I thought more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► about it I thought you know the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► obvious answer to me is what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► marco which is it'll get sucked into iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► maybe in 12 if not 11 but or whatever on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► now god I'm losing and keep on losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► track but anyways it was knocked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► some version of a hot yeah thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► it'll get sucked into some version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► iOS and then it'll go away and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► be that but then I got thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► more and the reason I felt like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► would get sucked into iOS is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11 ◼   ► feels like this is wrong for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► make an appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► is so feature-rich and offers so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► functionality that isn't part of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► itself and that very well still could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► but then I got to thinking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► iMovie or garage band or you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► of these other apps like that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► occurred to me that you know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► pretty full featured apps and yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► less of a system-level thing like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► the problem domain i think is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► more bounded but they're really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► big complex kind of intense apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► are apple-branded but are downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► optionally from the App Store and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► this may not be any different I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► disappointed by but like you said Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► maybe it's for good reason that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► some of the third party stuff is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► getting neutered but nevertheless I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► pretty optimistic about this probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► part because I don't rely on it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► my job done but I'm pretty optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► about this because it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► win-win right either a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► functionality gets built into iOS makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► iOS more powerful or if it's if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► kept in some vague form like it is today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► well it's a great darn app and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► a win too so I'm I'm very tentatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► optimistic about this well the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► thing that that people that workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► users I think should find somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► comforting is that most of the app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► know it's not doing things that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► these developers and only this app could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► do it's doing things that are possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► for anyone else to step in and recreate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► with a new app I don't say this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► insult the app or or to say that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► easy to make but that it is bit is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► combination of things that each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► which is fairly easy and so I wish like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► most apps honestly but but the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► like if workflow disappears if it shuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► down or it it is made to suck in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► that people find intolerable there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► be a new one someone else will make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► new one it might take a few months but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► someone else will make a new one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► there's clearly a market demand for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► there and and these are high-end you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► know technical and and very devoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► users if workflow disappears there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► going to immediately be a not massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► but very passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► very desperate market who would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► pay like 10 15 20 bucks for an iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► to replace it so I wouldn't worry too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► much about that unless Apple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► starts prohibiting apps that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► this which would be possible that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► certainly a risk I wouldn't say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► incredibly likely but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► certainly a risk but anyway basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► workflow people there might be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► disruption I don't mean that in the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► guy sense I mean that in the literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► meaning of the word there might be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► disruption to your workflows I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01 ◼   ► but god this is terrible phrase in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► market but I think in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► you'll be okay so we brought up test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► flight already which is I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► the most best example of an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► that was bought and contented and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► the icon today the test flight continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► to be called test flight yeah as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► separate application and Apple uses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► for the purpose the test flight was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► created so it's like it survived the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► acquisition right and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► your applications that totally go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► or become free and disappear serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► call will just point on Twitter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► Siri Siri was an independent company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► about the people you know like same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► thing if they had an application on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► store and it went free when it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► bought back in 2010 but eventually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► got rolled into the OS so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► possibility for this is that you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► hope that this what this means is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► Apple wants to make automation better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► iOS like it's that seems clear like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► you know in some fashion whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► just gonna have these people do a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► thing or you're going to incorporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59 ◼   ► that but you could have workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► appearing as an apple application with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► different icon perhaps bundled with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► OS perhaps free downloadable you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► an apple-branded thing until the big new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► we have big improvements automation come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► in iOS 12 or something so it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► the application like becomes part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► OS in terms of it's still called work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► floats still more or less works the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► maybe gets a new coat of paint and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► that sits there doing its thing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► people who made that application are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► working on the next big thing in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► of automating workflows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► incorporate maybe you know working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► conjunction with whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► possible multitasking improvements they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► may be coming anti OS that will see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► summer or whatever so there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► possibilities and I see all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► point towards to me anyway automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51 ◼   ► becoming better on the mac but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► really especially with the portability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► like will my workflow sport over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► new Apple one will the my workflows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► carry over to the new world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► automation that's going to happen in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03 ◼   ► 12 who knows but I think I think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► are going in the right direction even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► though it might be a little painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► short term I did you mean iOS there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► said the Mac yeah yeah I know I got Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► on the brain yep you know just replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4030">TS</a>]

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01:13:54 ◼   ► screamer there's like that gap there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55 ◼   ► like it's kind of a visible gap between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58 ◼   ► the glass and the screen so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► there's things like that where it's cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01 ◼   ► down and it lacks all the all the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► you know the quote ipad pro feature so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06 ◼   ► does not have pencil support it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► have doesn't have a smart connector but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► for a lot of ipad buyers that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13 ◼   ► great I you know for 329 it's an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:18 ◼   ► value it compared to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19 ◼   ► lineup whether you think it's an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21 ◼   ► value compared to other tablets like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23 ◼   ► from amazon or other android weirdos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25 ◼   ► that's up to you it probably isn't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28 ◼   ► oh well I don't think Apple cares but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► compared to other iPads it's a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► value for the money and you know as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36 ◼   ► as you don't need any of those Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► features but I think if you're willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39 ◼   ► to like drop 160 bucks on a keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42 ◼   ► probably aren't that price sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43 ◼   ► about the purchase price of the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45 ◼   ► iPad it's obviously being targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► strongly at educational buyers but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51 ◼   ► think it'll also just be a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► entry-level iPad I think that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:55 ◼   ► be you know they're probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57 ◼   ► sell a lot of these things just like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59 ◼   ► and the fact they that it has fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► modern internals is really nice sermon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04 ◼   ► from a user perspective from a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06 ◼   ► perspective it's really really nice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08 ◼   ► mean to me the oh and also I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10 ◼   ► point out Stephen Hackett wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12 ◼   ► wonderful article on 512 pixels citing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:16 ◼   ► the interesting marketing copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18 ◼   ► differences between the way Apple brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21 ◼   ► this new cheaper iPad versus the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23 ◼   ► they brand that I'm point 7 pro and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► new cheap one is all about fun it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27 ◼   ► you know casual fun and games and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29 ◼   ► pros like this is your new supercomputer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31 ◼   ► it's like totally different marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33 ◼   ► guidelines but I think that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35 ◼   ► for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36 ◼   ► they're targeting it the only major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:37 ◼   ► question I have about it is it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:41 ◼   ► leaves the ipad mini in a weird spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43 ◼   ► because the they also discontinued the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45 ◼   ► old mini so now there's only one iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48 ◼   ► Mini available it's more expensive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50 ◼   ► this it's it's the it's the four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52 ◼   ► dollar mini for 128 gig and so this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:58 ◼   ► me kind of looks like this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► gradual way of maybe killing the mini I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03 ◼   ► don't know but short like this this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06 ◼   ► 9.7 is now I think better than better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► than that mini in most ways and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14 ◼   ► clearly their new entry-level ipad so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17 ◼   ► don't i don't think the mini has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19 ◼   ► of places to go anymore but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21 ◼   ► I've never been a big fan of the mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► and if it's not going to be cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25 ◼   ► this than I don't know why anyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:28 ◼   ► be into it unless they really love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29 ◼   ► size but I mean in all fairness they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31 ◼   ► still sell the ipod touch I'm gonna side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► by the way there is actually one 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► gigabyte model out the ipod touch which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38 ◼   ► everyone forgets exists is thing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39 ◼   ► even at all markets it exists it almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42 ◼   ► doesn't count but hey you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:44 ◼   ► can get the ipod touch and you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45 ◼   ► it in 16 32 64 and 128 no gaps no 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:49 ◼   ► model but whatever so but for this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53 ◼   ► this ipad this I think is what one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55 ◼   ► the things that we would be on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► at least would probably love it if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00 ◼   ► did with this a laptop or desktop line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02 ◼   ► which is take a middle-of-the-road model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04 ◼   ► and make it cheaper and thicker like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:08 ◼   ► trade like I bring the price down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► know make something that is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13 ◼   ► make it more powerful bring the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15 ◼   ► down by sacrificing like the nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19 ◼   ► haves the laminated screen the couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21 ◼   ► millimetres of thickness there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24 ◼   ► little bit of extra weight in exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25 ◼   ► for like in this class like do you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28 ◼   ► the fanciest most laminated screen do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30 ◼   ► you need true tone wouldn't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32 ◼   ► rather have a machine that is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34 ◼   ► hundred bucks cheaper but also pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36 ◼   ► darn fast and sacrifice like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38 ◼   ► millimeter of thickness yes like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40 ◼   ► what a middle the road mouth should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41 ◼   ► it makes the expensive one look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44 ◼   ► what am I getting for money you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:45 ◼   ► getting fancier crap right it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47 ◼   ► actually faster it's nicer it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► got the laminated screen on it it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► the smarts connector or whatever you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52 ◼   ► what you're paying for their but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55 ◼   ► thing that gets bumped and doesn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56 ◼   ► you know it's not like the iPad to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58 ◼   ► stays the same and it's just like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59 ◼   ► crappy and you feel like you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00 ◼   ► a terrible model um and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02 ◼   ► they made this thicker like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:03 ◼   ► that's great that's exactly what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► looking for please make those trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06 ◼   ► in the middle models to make a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09 ◼   ► that has better it gives people better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:10 ◼   ► value for the money and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12 ◼   ► encouraged with us and I think someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► pointed out that the the ipad line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:15 ◼   ► now much simplified over its previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18 ◼   ► thing now we have to ipad pros one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20 ◼   ► which is a little creaky we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:21 ◼   ► about later to iPad pro is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23 ◼   ► going in the small one and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:24 ◼   ► two other iPads which are not pro is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26 ◼   ► big one in the small and and it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:27 ◼   ► that the mini is called like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29 ◼   ► mini 4 and i agree that it's a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:32 ◼   ► product in it with a rear price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33 ◼   ► maybe it will go away or maybe it itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35 ◼   ► will get bumped in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:36 ◼   ► inevitable there will be a faster mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38 ◼   ► for that is cheaper and that sacrifices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► i don't know what you could sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42 ◼   ► what's left sacrificing on the mini i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44 ◼   ► don't know but overall i think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:47 ◼   ► a good announcement and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► especially for education i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50 ◼   ► need to drive it down farther for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► purpose is like kind of like the ipad 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:53 ◼   ► was in the end of its life when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55 ◼   ► just so incredibly behind the times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57 ◼   ► they could probably sell to education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59 ◼   ► for much less money but anyway thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01 ◼   ► so continuing with the summary and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04 ◼   ► we'll come back and talk about each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:05 ◼   ► individually like i said there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08 ◼   ► that's not happening i was on board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11 ◼   ► that plan but i did see i did like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13 ◼   ► fact that we still be cruise through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15 ◼   ► the red iphone on the SE in appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18 ◼   ► with appropriate speed we don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19 ◼   ► circle back to them it's red it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21 ◼   ► cool it's nice yeah so i guess since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24 ◼   ► we're talking about this now sorry Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25 ◼   ► oh my god the you deserve this for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:29 ◼   ► your follow-up complaints yeah yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31 ◼   ► red iphone it's nice that it's product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34 ◼   ► red this is you know the in you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36 ◼   ► you mentioned about the charitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38 ◼   ► donation part of this it is nice they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40 ◼   ► finally for the very first time brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42 ◼   ► that to their most profitable product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:45 ◼   ► the iphone like I guess maybe back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:46 ◼   ► the ipod days it might have been but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48 ◼   ► anyway it's been a while you know you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50 ◼   ► be able to get red stuff from Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53 ◼   ► know the right ipod touch has been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► for a while which by the way looks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56 ◼   ► like the new read the you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4796">TS</a>]

01:20:00 ◼   ► had like the product red watchbands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03 ◼   ► it's really nice to be able to finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:05 ◼   ► get on the iphone I hope you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07 ◼   ► when basically before the before we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:10 ◼   ► the seven and there were some rumors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12 ◼   ► new colors I believe I made some comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14 ◼   ► back then about how like I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16 ◼   ► for them to replace all of the like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► metal colors like the silver space grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21 ◼   ► gold rose gold I would like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► those all I think look stale to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25 ◼   ► like all four of those I would say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► fairly overdone and dated these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:31 ◼   ► and most of the products especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32 ◼   ► iphone so to have new colors is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35 ◼   ► very welcome I was you know this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38 ◼   ► think this phone looks great I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40 ◼   ► it looks a little bit like the old ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:41 ◼   ► touch and a little too uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43 ◼   ► degree and and i agree with with mike's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:46 ◼   ► complained that it should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48 ◼   ► have a red circle around the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50 ◼   ► button because all the other phones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52 ◼   ► metal color matching circles so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55 ◼   ► also have a black front i do not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► white-fronted phones I don't like white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00 ◼   ► fronts of the things but a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02 ◼   ► do so like it if they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04 ◼   ► make it in two colors like hey here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06 ◼   ► red back in a black front and I read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07 ◼   ► black and a white front like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09 ◼   ► to pick one of them and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► personal taste thing honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11 ◼   ► the white front looks really good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13 ◼   ► would never want to own it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15 ◼   ► reasons I've talked to him before by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:16 ◼   ► putting some reflective white surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17 ◼   ► Nexus screen just makes you screen look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19 ◼   ► the engineer because it can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:20 ◼   ► compare to the sun shining off a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22 ◼   ► thing like I think it's a I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23 ◼   ► it and but it's totally personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25 ◼   ► preference i think it looks I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27 ◼   ► looks really it looks like a Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:28 ◼   ► phone looks like a piece of candy people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:31 ◼   ► say it in like a bad way like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:32 ◼   ► looks like the ipod touches the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34 ◼   ► touches look cool I and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36 ◼   ► because this is entirely a fashion thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38 ◼   ► and a taste thing I I have no complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► about the white front despite the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43 ◼   ► that I would never ever ever buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44 ◼   ► because you know they make phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► some people are gonna like it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48 ◼   ► that's why they make them in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► colors all point of different calls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:50 ◼   ► know like this color pick a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► color and I love the fact that now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54 ◼   ► was a color that is not silver black or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► some tint thereof like it is a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:58 ◼   ► color for a phone and last time you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00 ◼   ► that was like the 5c I guess which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02 ◼   ► thought were also really fun well I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04 ◼   ► would say jet black was and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06 ◼   ► bold color of that scale like it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08 ◼   ► it wasn't expected you can get any bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10 ◼   ► color as long it's black ya know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:12 ◼   ► like it wasn't it wasn't like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14 ◼   ► I would have predicted or expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16 ◼   ► good and ended up being but i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► jet-black is is one of those like game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21 ◼   ► changer colors that really did really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► did feel new and awesome that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25 ◼   ► I do wish this was like you know jet red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28 ◼   ► like I wish it had the finish of the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30 ◼   ► black like the tacky because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32 ◼   ► increase grip and everything and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34 ◼   ► think it might look a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35 ◼   ► modern because again i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37 ◼   ► would like more like the 5c which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38 ◼   ► also very glossy and colored yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40 ◼   ► look you know more saturated and newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42 ◼   ► and you know thinner and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44 ◼   ► I think that would help but not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46 ◼   ► like an old ipod touch but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48 ◼   ► this is overall very nice looking phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50 ◼   ► the the timing is interesting of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:53 ◼   ► being mid-cycle this is about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► about when they launched the the SE last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► year right this is you know the cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01 ◼   ► take on this is this is a nice way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03 ◼   ► them to boost sales in a very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05 ◼   ► traditionally quarter you know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07 ◼   ► a nice way for them to boost sales on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► their most profitable product line i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10 ◼   ► wish i did this more often like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12 ◼   ► would complain if they if they treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13 ◼   ► the phone back like watchband it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► go out the year every couple months came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17 ◼   ► out with different colors of phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► because it i mean it's you know it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21 ◼   ► them the freedom to have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22 ◼   ► different ideas and honestly does get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24 ◼   ► people more excited because phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25 ◼   ► very much faster and accessories and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28 ◼   ► you can come up with different colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:29 ◼   ► and different parts of the year people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► like it does renew your interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32 ◼   ► getting the phones especially if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34 ◼   ► the phones and you're like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36 ◼   ► if I need a new phone I'm not sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► like all these new colors especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38 ◼   ► it the same as last year where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40 ◼   ► gold rose gold and maybe you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42 ◼   ► the jet black or whatever if you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44 ◼   ► you could wait three months and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► would be like you know a teal one or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47 ◼   ► purple one or a yellow one I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49 ◼   ► still see five Cs that are white now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50 ◼   ► like that's a cool looking phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52 ◼   ► it you know if it's fashion and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:56 ◼   ► watch is certainly are and the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:57 ◼   ► at this point too by all means do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59 ◼   ► as many times as you want Apple I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► it's think it's great yeah also by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► way I think a jet white phone like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► the same finish but in white that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► look amazing oh yeah but yeah how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08 ◼   ► you allowed to say that and I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► here quiet you're thinking it's a jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13 ◼   ► white phone with a black front on it tho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► i guess but that's true well i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► that would look better yeah i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:18 ◼   ► you i think the red with the white front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► i think that does look better even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:21 ◼   ► though i agree also that i wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23 ◼   ► the white front but i think a black back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25 ◼   ► or I mean a white bag I think would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27 ◼   ► look good with a black front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29 ◼   ► anyway there's a storm trooper phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► yeah exactly anyway uh Michael Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34 ◼   ► and I want to wait found that god you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► killing me as big as it's a pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39 ◼   ► shape so it does look good in white oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► oh my god what do I do to deserve this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► just try to keep you two in lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:45 ◼   ► deserve that's just that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47 ◼   ► foundational theory of white car is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49 ◼   ► we not gone over this no we have we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51 ◼   ► think we started with this I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► did yeah so anyway I hope I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► know I would just love to see more color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00 ◼   ► and apples line in general so angry so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:03 ◼   ► hope they keep this up you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05 ◼   ► great I don't really I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07 ◼   ► you know go trade in my you know still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► perfectly fine working iphone 7 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12 ◼   ► halfway through its cycle for this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► if I were buying new today I'd seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17 ◼   ► consider it although I Sultanate Lee I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19 ◼   ► still want the grip of the jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► finish so i would probably slow side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22 ◼   ► against it but give me jet red and jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:25 ◼   ► white and we'll talk but anyway i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28 ◼   ► this fall when presumably new iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:31 ◼   ► come out again all those it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33 ◼   ► say with that but when things will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:34 ◼   ► out but presumably this fall i hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:38 ◼   ► continue with even with the new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40 ◼   ► to offer cool new colors yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► agree with that I really liked the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45 ◼   ► at this I really do wish it was a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47 ◼   ► front there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49 ◼   ► white perhaps being a better match but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52 ◼   ► the back of this does look awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:55 ◼   ► they've also released a couple of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58 ◼   ► colors for iphone cases and i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:01 ◼   ► was sapphire on screen anyway looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03 ◼   ► really nice haven't seen it in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► and they've also released a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06 ◼   ► watch bands which largely matched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:10 ◼   ► case colors they've also started selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:13 ◼   ► nike+ bands separately which if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► something that is for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► visually extremely loud power to you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22 ◼   ► guess and now you can buy the band as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24 ◼   ► sport band having all those holes in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26 ◼   ► is really nice for ventilation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27 ◼   ► the regular support band is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28 ◼   ► sweaty because it just you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5188">TS</a>]

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01:32:29 ◼   ► text if you dictate the test the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► with a certain cadence it will appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33 ◼   ► the screen with that cadence so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:36 ◼   ► you know basically by speaking in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► certain manner make text appear in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:41 ◼   ► that emphasizes the point of your video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43 ◼   ► as opposed to trying to time that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44 ◼   ► like a bunch of curves you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46 ◼   ► could be like lots and lots of clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:48 ◼   ► touches so what regular people do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50 ◼   ► that are much more interesting I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:51 ◼   ► it will probably create a middle-tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:54 ◼   ► class of produced videos in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► that they were like professional people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59 ◼   ► producing vines presumably using like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01 ◼   ► don't know if I even let you do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:02 ◼   ► some it you know for other other types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04 ◼   ► of services where it's clear that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06 ◼   ► is a group of people using tools way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► more sophisticated than our available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10 ◼   ► the social services native app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12 ◼   ► nevertheless share that video on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14 ◼   ► app so like they would make a video like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► an final cut basically with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17 ◼   ► cool effects and everything and trim it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:18 ◼   ► down and share it on a social network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20 ◼   ► the same way that I take pictures with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21 ◼   ► my fancy camera and put them Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23 ◼   ► and some people get cranky because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24 ◼   ► it's only supposed to be pictures you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► take with your phone like that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26 ◼   ► I'm using Instagram I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28 ◼   ► there are people who are sharing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:30 ◼   ► through social services that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32 ◼   ► with very complicated tools but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34 ◼   ► everyone can do that so this is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35 ◼   ► in-between thing you have you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► the built-in tools for the sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39 ◼   ► services and make an okay video you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41 ◼   ► one step back which is just a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43 ◼   ► application that's also on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:44 ◼   ► and still pretty darn easy to use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► you get a nicer result and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48 ◼   ► final one is you know use Final Cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:49 ◼   ► pro to spend a week making this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:51 ◼   ► video that you hope will go viral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52 ◼   ► you know dude do it anyway there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:56 ◼   ► there's a video on the apple.com / clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:00 ◼   ► and the the section is called say it see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:03 ◼   ► it and there's a little video of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:04 ◼   ► gentleman who is saying how to tie a bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06 ◼   ► tie and you see the words pop on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08 ◼   ► just like you were describing John it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09 ◼   ► looks really clever I don't I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12 ◼   ► snapchat account I only ever use it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:15 ◼   ► send or receive pictures with Aaron and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:18 ◼   ► Declan so often times when he wakes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:19 ◼   ► from nap she'll go in there and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21 ◼   ► take a goofy picture with one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► goofy filters and I gotta say it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24 ◼   ► actually quite delightful I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26 ◼   ► the faintest idea how to use the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28 ◼   ► features of snapchat that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29 ◼   ► supposed to be using because I'm old I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► do like Instagram stories I don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34 ◼   ► myself doing it very often because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36 ◼   ► day is usually pretty boring but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39 ◼   ► they're super cool and I like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41 ◼   ► features they've added and so this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43 ◼   ► I think Marco I know you were being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45 ◼   ► snarky but I think you're right to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47 ◼   ► degree to a small degree I do think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49 ◼   ► is snapchat for old people but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51 ◼   ► really amped about this I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:52 ◼   ► going to be super neat to play with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54 ◼   ► it may be that i play with it twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55 ◼   ► never use it again but i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:58 ◼   ► this is apple firing on all cylinders in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:01 ◼   ► theory anyway we'll see what it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:02 ◼   ► it's released but it's embracing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:05 ◼   ► stuff they're good at just like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06 ◼   ► said in and ignoring the stuff they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► not so rather than making another paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09 ◼   ► they're just using this to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11 ◼   ► content and then pushing it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:13 ◼   ► places where you want that content to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:15 ◼   ► which is awesome and a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17 ◼   ► nice little touches on here like the oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19 ◼   ► you have Aaron in this video do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21 ◼   ► to send it to early this all sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23 ◼   ► really really cool and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:24 ◼   ► looking forward to playing with it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:26 ◼   ► not entirely sure why it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28 ◼   ► today like i'm not sure what that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30 ◼   ► buys them because it's almost done I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► guess but Lexi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:34 ◼   ► that's the thing though like like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:35 ◼   ► they did all these announcements via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:38 ◼   ► this barrage of press releases but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:41 ◼   ► these announcements were over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:43 ◼   ► throughout the entire day yesterday when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:44 ◼   ► they're getting all this press you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46 ◼   ► can't pre-order the red iphone you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48 ◼   ► can't pre-order the new cheap ipad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:51 ◼   ► can't download the clips app or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:54 ◼   ► they didn't even do like the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56 ◼   ► notify me thing like they did from Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:58 ◼   ► run like there's nothing we can do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:00 ◼   ► this like we're interested now give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02 ◼   ► way to turn that into something for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04 ◼   ► later Apple but no instead we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07 ◼   ► to try to remember about these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09 ◼   ► and then when they are available in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:12 ◼   ► know a week or three then go get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14 ◼   ► then but like why why couldn't they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:18 ◼   ► anything what like why do they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20 ◼   ► announce this yesterday when none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22 ◼   ► this stuff is even ready to pre-order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24 ◼   ► exactly no they're trying to be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26 ◼   ► to space it out you know like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28 ◼   ► other announcements they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:29 ◼   ► push it up against them like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:32 ◼   ► really because I think the Apple line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34 ◼   ► and this is that they're not the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:38 ◼   ► products that there's going to be a mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40 ◼   ► rush for people to get like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:42 ◼   ► really matter when I tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:43 ◼   ► clips being a thing because it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45 ◼   ► to be like a slow burn even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47 ◼   ► not even available it requires I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:48 ◼   ► 10.3 actually so no one's gotten it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51 ◼   ► until iOS emily three comes out and 10.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:52 ◼   ► is not coming out until you next month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:54 ◼   ► sometime probably but it's not this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:57 ◼   ► be the iphone you could argue like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59 ◼   ► could be a potential rush for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:00 ◼   ► you know i don't know why they all came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02 ◼   ► together i don't know why they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03 ◼   ► not available but i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05 ◼   ► matters that much because for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07 ◼   ► type of products it's not the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:09 ◼   ► thing where you have to strike while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:10 ◼   ► iron is hot and build up a frenzy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12 ◼   ► activity is just going to be cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13 ◼   ► stuff that Apple's coming out with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15 ◼   ► so you know here it is it'll be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17 ◼   ► it'll be here before you know it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18 ◼   ► it's not a big deal like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20 ◼   ► anybody is it has money burning a hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:23 ◼   ► in their pocket for that new iPad even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25 ◼   ► though it is better than the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:26 ◼   ► just lets you know if you were thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27 ◼   ► ab item on maybe wait a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29 ◼   ► for the application it'll be coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:32 ◼   ► soon but it requires the new OS and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► know I I you can question why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:37 ◼   ► they wait until like one of the items is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39 ◼   ► available and like it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41 ◼   ► because that one's all that one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:42 ◼   ► available the other ones aren't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:43 ◼   ► you can't really make try to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45 ◼   ► all simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:46 ◼   ► particularly mind that they they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:49 ◼   ► about it ahead of time especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:50 ◼   ► like there is something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51 ◼   ► having all the sights talk about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54 ◼   ► can't get this net but here's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:55 ◼   ► exclusive look like you know here here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57 ◼   ► is it was the red iphone that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5877">TS</a>]

01:37:59 ◼   ► get your hands on and here is the clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:00 ◼   ► app that if anybody has a Clips app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► won't be out until 10.3 that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05 ◼   ► way to build hype so who knows I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:08 ◼   ► think anyone even has it i mean like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:09 ◼   ► reviewers we at least know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11 ◼   ► reviewers seem to have read iphones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:14 ◼   ► i don't think i haven't heard anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:15 ◼   ► mentioned that they have eclipse anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17 ◼   ► it doesn't matter although the clips out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:18 ◼   ► by the way getting back to that string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:19 ◼   ► of playing to their strengths oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:21 ◼   ► more negative tech I'm playing To Your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23 ◼   ► Strengths is it is a further emphasis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:26 ◼   ► your weakness because like it if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:28 ◼   ► to pick who do you want to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30 ◼   ► company that is really good in making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32 ◼   ► like a high-quality clever nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34 ◼   ► interface powerful application it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36 ◼   ► advantage of your phone's hardware to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:37 ◼   ► make cool videos or the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► owns the social network where all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41 ◼   ► videos will be posted whether it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:42 ◼   ► Instagram or snapchat or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44 ◼   ► think Apple would trade in a second to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:46 ◼   ► be the the company that controls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:49 ◼   ► social networks where that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51 ◼   ► that's there's more value in being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53 ◼   ► place where people post all their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:54 ◼   ► than there is in making the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56 ◼   ► that lets people post their stuff and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:59 ◼   ► like when i gave the hierarchy before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01 ◼   ► was that most people are going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:02 ◼   ► the app a second tier is much fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:05 ◼   ► people who care more about quality will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:07 ◼   ► use this thing and then a third tier is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09 ◼   ► even fewer people use professional tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10 ◼   ► so they're not even getting the fat part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12 ◼   ► of that market right i think if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14 ◼   ► could choose they would say boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16 ◼   ► really wish we were instagram or boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17 ◼   ► really wish we were snapchat or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19 ◼   ► but they aren't and they can't be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21 ◼   ► they're bad at that stuff so at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23 ◼   ► least this is always talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:24 ◼   ► people who sell apples good at software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:27 ◼   ► and they make good interfaces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28 ◼   ► dimensions like are they what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30 ◼   ► application have been made recently that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:31 ◼   ► shows that Apple actually knows how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:32 ◼   ► make good applications get workflows an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► example and a phenomenal application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:35 ◼   ► like we get to the point where I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37 ◼   ► like the ABA winners I think workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:38 ◼   ► one and a da da da winners are like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:41 ◼   ► those applications are better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43 ◼   ► what's Apple is doing whereas this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:44 ◼   ► like a return to form or Apple saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► the ABA sr4 a cup for people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:49 ◼   ► software that we feel like exemplifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51 ◼   ► the ideals and the api's that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► promoting or whatever then we at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55 ◼   ► are interested in and we at apple also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5995">TS</a>]

01:40:00 ◼   ► want to make applications of that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► and for a long time it seemed like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03 ◼   ► was no longer able to make really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05 ◼   ► applications consistently and clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:09 ◼   ► looks like a modern version of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11 ◼   ► great application and rather than being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13 ◼   ► a Mac application or like a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:14 ◼   ► application it's like this is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:17 ◼   ► application to do a simple thing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:18 ◼   ► was like one of the thing then was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19 ◼   ► use of WC so you want to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:21 ◼   ► application that does video those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23 ◼   ► make videos for social services what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25 ◼   ► kind of features could you add to it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26 ◼   ► you took advantage of all our api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28 ◼   ► could you make a really clever interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:30 ◼   ► and use all our you know new systems for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32 ◼   ► laying out the UI and use everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:35 ◼   ► learn from like it looks like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38 ◼   ► good third-party application which at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► this point is a high compliment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:42 ◼   ► something that Apple puts out yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:47 ◼   ► looking forward to trying this and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► knows that like i said if i'll ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:49 ◼   ► it but i'm really excited about yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:51 ◼   ► the application itself like I'm less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:53 ◼   ► concerned about like you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:54 ◼   ► maybe no one will ever use it but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56 ◼   ► excited to see Apple making really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:59 ◼   ► iOS applications again I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► applications that even third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02 ◼   ► developers say that's a good I osf in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04 ◼   ► the same way we all say that about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:05 ◼   ► know workflow or whatever that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:07 ◼   ► what's encouraging to me about there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:08 ◼   ► not the specifics of like always he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10 ◼   ► an appt to chair video or whatever so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12 ◼   ► did briefly want to address the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:15 ◼   ► thing that happened when all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17 ◼   ► announcements dropped which is a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19 ◼   ► of people got really mad at things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21 ◼   ► weren't announced and I was one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:24 ◼   ► you know as I mentioned earlier I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26 ◼   ► hoping for a inch macbook update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:29 ◼   ► didn't happen yep many people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:32 ◼   ► waiting for imac updates that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:34 ◼   ► supposed to happen last fall didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► happen lots of people expected the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:40 ◼   ► point seven and twelve point nine inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► iPad pros to be updated because the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:45 ◼   ► point seven is due now the 12.9 assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48 ◼   ► it has the same cycle as the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:50 ◼   ► is now past due by about half a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:52 ◼   ► so a lot of people are mad you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54 ◼   ► and there was the rumored 10.5 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57 ◼   ► and I think John Gruber's take on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► on daring fireball is probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00 ◼   ► which is like it probably never made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02 ◼   ► sense to launch that in the spring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04 ◼   ► probably see that sounds more like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► know let the iphone debut the new design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09 ◼   ► language and then release the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:10 ◼   ► afterwards kind of thing or do them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► it wants to be a big bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14 ◼   ► you know or so but I get it also things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16 ◼   ► make more sense than what what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:18 ◼   ► predicted which was like you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:20 ◼   ► get 20 new iPhones in mar 22 iPads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:22 ◼   ► March and they're gonna be weird sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24 ◼   ► that aren't consistent with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:25 ◼   ► and one of them is going to be amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26 ◼   ► it's like really it's not know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► never sounded right and we keep hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30 ◼   ► rumblings to about major iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33 ◼   ► enhancements in iPad productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35 ◼   ► multitasking things like that major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37 ◼   ► enhancements that were originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39 ◼   ► supposed to be coming out about now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► iOS 10.3 and that we've heard recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:44 ◼   ► that those have been delayed until iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► 11 presumably in the fall so if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:50 ◼   ► the case it also might make sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52 ◼   ► hold back this new 10 and a half inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54 ◼   ► crazy awesome iPad pro and maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:57 ◼   ► update to the 12.9 as well that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:59 ◼   ► to happen to hold those back until like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:02 ◼   ► whatever september-october event is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:05 ◼   ► public launch of iOS 11 that's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07 ◼   ► what they do like you know though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09 ◼   ► they will show us all at WTC in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:12 ◼   ► summertime like the core features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► then when it when it comes time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15 ◼   ► launch day for that OS in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:17 ◼   ► september-october event there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:19 ◼   ► new hardware that makes it even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:21 ◼   ► usually as an iphone event but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:22 ◼   ► as John just said it could be both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:25 ◼   ► that makes sense but I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:27 ◼   ► why people were so mad and still are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:29 ◼   ► mad is that you know traditionally at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:33 ◼   ► most Apple products have been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35 ◼   ► predictable schedule you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37 ◼   ► ipad and iphone is about one year max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:40 ◼   ► were about one year to maybe 18 months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43 ◼   ► for most families we complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:45 ◼   ► Mac Pro and people complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:47 ◼   ► mac mini those have honestly always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49 ◼   ► on ridiculous schedules usually not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► ridiculous but but like you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53 ◼   ► not new for those families but like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:54 ◼   ► most mammals products you could pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56 ◼   ► much extrapolate based on their previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58 ◼   ► release schedules okay this one will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00 ◼   ► out in about a year this will be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:01 ◼   ► in about a year and a half etc and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03 ◼   ► even even if Apple has said nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:06 ◼   ► about future products which is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08 ◼   ► the case you you as like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:10 ◼   ► waiting for an updated like if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:12 ◼   ► you want to buy an imac today and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:15 ◼   ► do any research at all which many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:17 ◼   ► do you know people people in the geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:20 ◼   ► sphere often think that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21 ◼   ► quote normal people just walk into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23 ◼   ► apple store just buy whatever's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24 ◼   ► and they don't do any research but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26 ◼   ► that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:27 ◼   ► a lot of people do research and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:28 ◼   ► more people than we give credit for do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:31 ◼   ► the kind of research that can tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33 ◼   ► like you know I should probably wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► not by this yet because the new ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36 ◼   ► becoming soon anyway so when the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38 ◼   ► that you're waiting for is past due for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:42 ◼   ► an expected update every announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:45 ◼   ► that Apple makes every event they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► every new product release that passes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49 ◼   ► that you don't get the thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51 ◼   ► waiting for that feels like a delay even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54 ◼   ► though they never said they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:55 ◼   ► release it because it isn't officially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:58 ◼   ► delay because they never announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6298">TS</a>]

01:44:59 ◼   ► but it feels like you were told this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:03 ◼   ► you might even been told that by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05 ◼   ► experts by the apple press by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:07 ◼   ► commentators who you know the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:10 ◼   ► the year they tell you oh you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12 ◼   ► impatient just wait until wdc or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:16 ◼   ► fall event or the spring event like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:18 ◼   ► always I'll just wait till the next X it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:20 ◼   ► just keep waiting keep waiting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22 ◼   ► what you're told when you look into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:23 ◼   ► kind of stuff and so when that event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25 ◼   ► comes and goes and you still don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27 ◼   ► your update that you thought was do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:30 ◼   ► feels like something was taken away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31 ◼   ► you it feels like it was delayed even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32 ◼   ► though Apple never never officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34 ◼   ► promised it and when there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► couple of products that are on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:38 ◼   ► delays like the mac pro in the mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:40 ◼   ► well those are always on these delays I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42 ◼   ► think that's no surprise but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:45 ◼   ► know as we mentioned in past shows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:47 ◼   ► does seem like there's more of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:48 ◼   ► product lines than usual right now 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:51 ◼   ► was an especially bad year we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54 ◼   ► you know at least the laptops recovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► from that now that was a big one but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► know there's still some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6358">TS</a>]

01:45:59 ◼   ► products like the 12 point on a tripod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00 ◼   ► that was kind of sitting around waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:01 ◼   ► for an update and you know as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:04 ◼   ► earlier I think the new reality is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:07 ◼   ► there is no apple product line except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:11 ◼   ► probably the iphone that is on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► schedule anymore every other one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:18 ◼   ► could they could have updated at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:19 ◼   ► year for the last five years and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:20 ◼   ► well now it's on a two-year cycle now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22 ◼   ► it's on an 18-month cycle what like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:25 ◼   ► can't depend on that that way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:27 ◼   ► predicting long schedules anymore like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29 ◼   ► whatever interval they've been on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► past is now totally irrelevant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:34 ◼   ► possibly every product but if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:36 ◼   ► probably not the iphone but but probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:39 ◼   ► everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:40 ◼   ► so there are some speculation there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42 ◼   ► might still be like an April event there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:45 ◼   ► was like on the WTC wall of text that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:49 ◼   ► was on the big walls downstairs there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:51 ◼   ► was like Hello April is at April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:52 ◼   ► eighteenth what was the event was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:54 ◼   ► date on that deal I don't remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56 ◼   ► know what you're talking about but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57 ◼   ► don't remember somewhere on the teens i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59 ◼   ► think in april that was like printed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01 ◼   ► there as a possible easter egg so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03 ◼   ► might still be in april event maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► they're going to be at the new Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:06 ◼   ► Jobs theater on on the new apple campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:09 ◼   ► who knows but if I had to bet money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:12 ◼   ► it i would guess they probably aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:14 ◼   ► done announcing things for the spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16 ◼   ► yet because the other thing is like WTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:19 ◼   ► in recent years has really been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:21 ◼   ► software-only event for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:23 ◼   ► there's usually there's so much to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:26 ◼   ► about during that keynote because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:28 ◼   ► is usually so many changes to iOS watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:32 ◼   ► OS TVO as like there's so much to cram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:35 ◼   ► in there that they have they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37 ◼   ► recent years been minimizing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39 ◼   ► eliminating any kind of hardware release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► talk from that keynote and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43 ◼   ► don't tend to do any other events in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:44 ◼   ► summertime besides that one because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:46 ◼   ► know everyone's on vacation in july and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:47 ◼   ► august and everything so so i'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:49 ◼   ► if they have anything more to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:52 ◼   ► before September we're probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:55 ◼   ► hardware and product wise not software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57 ◼   ► wise we're probably going to still hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59 ◼   ► about it maybe you know maybe in April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► we'll see if I had to bet whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:03 ◼   ► they would be an event in April right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:04 ◼   ► now I'd say probably yes but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:07 ◼   ► bet Casey five bucks on it you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:10 ◼   ► funny you bring all this up I was um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12 ◼   ► was thinking about this earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14 ◼   ► and we've also gotten a couple emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► and I don't have them in front of me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18 ◼   ► somebody wrote in saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:21 ◼   ► listing this scenario i don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:23 ◼   ► five years ago and like snow leopard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► about to come out or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:27 ◼   ► and you know hey here's the scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► everyone was upset about a b c d e f and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:31 ◼   ► g we all thought the world was ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:32 ◼   ► all the pundits all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:34 ◼   ► podcasters everyone thought the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36 ◼   ► was ending turns out it really wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:37 ◼   ► that bad and yet i left yesterday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► didn't go anywhere but you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43 ◼   ► end of yesterday I felt like me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45 ◼   ► don't know if I was too excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► all this like I knew I that Clips looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50 ◼   ► kind of cool but the rest of it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► didn't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53 ◼   ► and the first constructive thought I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► was well it's just that these weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► for me these announcements weren't for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:00 ◼   ► me does make them bad and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► reflecting on them now today with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► guys they're pretty good truth be told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:06 ◼   ► but they weren't for me and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08 ◼   ► specifically I don't have my damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:09 ◼   ► adorable refresh but that's okay but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:15 ◼   ► started thinking you know why is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:17 ◼   ► I feel disappointed about this in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► that I don't think i would have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:23 ◼   ► years back and I think a lot of it marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► was what you said was that there was a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29 ◼   ► pretty reliable cadence to how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31 ◼   ► release stuff up until fairly recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:33 ◼   ► and that's not quite so reliable anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:37 ◼   ► which on the surface I should be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:39 ◼   ► about because it means things are less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:42 ◼   ► predictable and more exciting but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:45 ◼   ► not that excited about it because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6585">TS</a>]

01:49:47 ◼   ► not always excited about levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:50 ◼   ► releasing any more I am always excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:53 ◼   ► about new iPhones because every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:54 ◼   ► time I think there's been an improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:56 ◼   ► but everything else that's hit or miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58 ◼   ► right like I've not used to touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:00 ◼   ► for more than a couple of minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02 ◼   ► this day but I'm not overwhelmingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04 ◼   ► amped to go get myself one and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► just but I've been trying and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:09 ◼   ► come to any great conclusions but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11 ◼   ► trying to figure out you know why am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:12 ◼   ► less excited about late announcements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:15 ◼   ► late than I have been in the past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:17 ◼   ► the only other thing I can come to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19 ◼   ► that I feel like there was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:22 ◼   ► something in every single product that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► could be like holy hell that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:27 ◼   ► awesome and so maybe a product that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► didn't really care about so as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:30 ◼   ► example the twelve point nine inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:33 ◼   ► pro I don't have any desire for that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:36 ◼   ► my life but I can see cool things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:38 ◼   ► it and similarly like the smart keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6638">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► for both sizes that's cool and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► fairly recent in fairness but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:47 ◼   ► know I just I feel like in years past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:48 ◼   ► everything had something really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:51 ◼   ► about it maybe I'm just becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► cynical old man maybe that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55 ◼   ► but I'm just less excited about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:57 ◼   ► think a lot of that is the cadence some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6657">TS</a>]

01:50:59 ◼   ► of that is that these products just may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:02 ◼   ► not be for me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:04 ◼   ► or and and maybe I just gotta get okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:07 ◼   ► with that you know what still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:10 ◼   ► possibly for you what the macbook escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13 ◼   ► man it's a really good computer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► asked me a few weeks yeah I'll ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:19 ◼   ► in 15 days after the lag if it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► real computer I might have a macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24 ◼   ► escape to sell you yeah funny about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:28 ◼   ► people being angry about this like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30 ◼   ► mean I think it's what we talked about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:33 ◼   ► lot a lot of the other announcements for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:34 ◼   ► it's like it is not so much about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:36 ◼   ► announced is just like sort of simmering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38 ◼   ► desire / resentment for things out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► aren't getting updated and so every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43 ◼   ► something happens it does include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:44 ◼   ► thing you want just makes you angry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:46 ◼   ► everyone knew this was going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:48 ◼   ► there was no event where people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:49 ◼   ► going out to sit in a room to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51 ◼   ► someone talk this was a press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:52 ◼   ► only thing right it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:54 ◼   ► like they they had everyone come out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56 ◼   ► a location you know so everyone knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58 ◼   ► when when it's a press release only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6718">TS</a>]

01:51:59 ◼   ► thing its lesser stuff the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:02 ◼   ► they were to release a new 10.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:04 ◼   ► iPad you know with an entirely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06 ◼   ► physical design without calling a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► of press to come to a room and sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► and get a presentation like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:14 ◼   ► you know the the amount of ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:18 ◼   ► surrounding the announcements matches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► the the magnitude of the announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23 ◼   ► so this is going to be hey it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25 ◼   ► going to be a bunch of press releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► and some journalists will get briefed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28 ◼   ► various locations but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:30 ◼   ► gathering everybody into a room we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:31 ◼   ► not doing a live Sheeran you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33 ◼   ► the caliber of the stuff that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34 ◼   ► be there so being disappointed that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37 ◼   ► didn't even get like a macbook refresh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:38 ◼   ► mean it's conceivable that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40 ◼   ► have got a macbook refresh with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:41 ◼   ► this caliber of announcement but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:44 ◼   ► don't think is that it doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► reset like are now now it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:48 ◼   ► a delay because they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:49 ◼   ► have a vent right after this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51 ◼   ► it's entirely conceivable that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:52 ◼   ► could have here's the press release only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54 ◼   ► stuff and then here is an event where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56 ◼   ► ever we actually invite people out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:58 ◼   ► the near future that it doesn't push any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► future announcements out at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02 ◼   ► very often they have the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:04 ◼   ► they dump a bunch of pre-announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6784">TS</a>]

01:53:06 ◼   ► and press releases sometimes they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:08 ◼   ► like the day before like the real event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6788">TS</a>]

01:53:10 ◼   ► where actual you know people sit in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:11 ◼   ► room and get it get a little song and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:13 ◼   ► dance from Apple right so I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:16 ◼   ► understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:17 ◼   ► the idea that like every time apple says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19 ◼   ► anything and it doesn't include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:20 ◼   ► thing that you think should be coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22 ◼   ► that it's painful but the actual things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:27 ◼   ► that were announced here all seemed fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:28 ◼   ► and I actually don't think it pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:30 ◼   ► anything back it doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:32 ◼   ► there's an imminent announcement or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:33 ◼   ► anything you could still be cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:34 ◼   ► the fact that the ipad pro does need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:37 ◼   ► update and hasn't got one and when is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39 ◼   ► going to come and if it doesn't come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:40 ◼   ► April does that mean I have to wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:41 ◼   ► the beauty like you can continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:42 ◼   ► sad about that but honestly like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:46 ◼   ► it's just people getting over the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6826">TS</a>]

01:53:47 ◼   ► that the ipad pro might not be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:50 ◼   ► every time there are obvious technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:52 ◼   ► upgrades to it like you would think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:53 ◼   ► well surely the big iPad pro will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55 ◼   ► the truth on screen out of the small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:56 ◼   ► has it and you wait and wait and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58 ◼   ► but you know talk to my pro people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:01 ◼   ► waiting like you're cranky because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:02 ◼   ► you're like it's one year come on chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04 ◼   ► chopping like one year haha so young so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06 ◼   ► young lease your product will still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:09 ◼   ► released thanks to our three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:11 ◼   ► this week hello fresh Squarespace and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:14 ◼   ► fracture and we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:22 ◼   ► mean to begin as it was accidental oh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:27 ◼   ► was accidental John didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:31 ◼   ► money research Marco and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:34 ◼   ► let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:35 ◼   ► cuz it was accidental it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6875">TS</a>]

01:54:39 ◼   ► and you can find the show notes at ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:43 ◼   ► FM I live for into twitter you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:49 ◼   ► follow them at cas eyl ISS so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:55 ◼   ► Casey list and a osseo a RM Angie Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6895">TS</a>]

01:55:00 ◼   ► are men and I are a c-usa Syracuse we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:20 ◼   ► have important after show facts about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22 ◼   ► PFS I know you guys are dying for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24 ◼   ► exciting after-show on that my god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26 ◼   ► so ready what mailing list is on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29 ◼   ► on one of apples one of apple's mailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:33 ◼   ► lists people complaining about bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:35 ◼   ► being closed about a PFS on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37 ◼   ► obviously because it's you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:38 ◼   ► officially for the mac actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:41 ◼   ► still beta for iOS to anyway the bug was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6941">TS</a>]

01:55:44 ◼   ► closed with this explanation iosh best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:47 ◼   ► normalization and unicode names i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:50 ◼   ► oh Sh of us normalized unicode names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:52 ◼   ► which was we know like they folded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:54 ◼   ► all into a particular normalization of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:55 ◼   ► their thing and so that's why you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:56 ◼   ► you no matter how you enter the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58 ◼   ► name it would all fold it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59 ◼   ► particular form so you can only have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:00 ◼   ► file name cafe with an e an accent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:03 ◼   ► the end no matter how you encode it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:05 ◼   ► as you can you can write that in 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:06 ◼   ► different ways in your code with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:07 ◼   ► combining characters and stuff a PFS now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10 ◼   ► treats all files as a bag of bytes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:12 ◼   ► iOS and so they closed it as closing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:15 ◼   ► bug report so if you use apple's api's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:18 ◼   ► you don't care about this because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19 ◼   ► does all that sort of normalization for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:21 ◼   ► you but if you use the direct file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:22 ◼   ► system API you like the bsd you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24 ◼   ► unix layer it is a PFS behaves like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:28 ◼   ► a plain old UNIX file system which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:30 ◼   ► basically give him a buffer full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:33 ◼   ► bytes and I will write that to the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:35 ◼   ► of the file system that says it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:36 ◼   ► supposed to hold the file name and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38 ◼   ► that's it so if you want to write one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:41 ◼   ► file name in utf-32 and one file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:45 ◼   ► and a ski and one file name in utf-8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:48 ◼   ► normalization I'm just a filesystem man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7008">TS</a>]

01:56:51 ◼   ► you just gave me a sequence of bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:52 ◼   ► when you ask me later what the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:54 ◼   ► this file is i'm going to give you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7014">TS</a>]

01:56:55 ◼   ► sequence of bytes back i hope you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:56 ◼   ► what encoding it's in good luck which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7016">TS</a>]

01:56:59 ◼   ► exactly how i believe linus torvalds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7019">TS</a>]

01:57:02 ◼   ► linux fame really wished hfs+ behaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:05 ◼   ► because he hated the fact that it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:06 ◼   ► normalization he said just just take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7026">TS</a>]

01:57:08 ◼   ► bytes that I give you and stick them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7028">TS</a>]

01:57:09 ◼   ► your file system and that is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:12 ◼   ► how a PFS works and I felt the bog on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:14 ◼   ► this as well to say look I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:15 ◼   ► this is a bug or feature but hfs+ dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7035">TS</a>]

01:57:19 ◼   ► hit this way and your new replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:21 ◼   ► behaves that way and it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7041">TS</a>]

01:57:22 ◼   ► could possibly cause something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24 ◼   ► compatibilities down the line so is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:27 ◼   ► something you intended to do or what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:29 ◼   ► I don't remember what the status of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:30 ◼   ► bug is but this this bug report of if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:32 ◼   ► is to be believed that this radar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:34 ◼   ► was close is like on iOS anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7054">TS</a>]

01:57:37 ◼   ► totally what we meant it's now just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:39 ◼   ► Bagel Bites user api's you'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:42 ◼   ► but it certainly simplifies the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:44 ◼   ► system because thousands of no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:47 ◼   ► needs to be concerned about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:48 ◼   ► heck is in the the file names it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:51 ◼   ► it's just a big data buffer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:53 ◼   ► everything else is handled it at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:54 ◼   ► higher level and arguably that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:56 ◼   ► cleaner layering but it is definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58 ◼   ► definite break with how it was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7078">TS</a>]

01:57:59 ◼   ► before so be careful out there so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:06 ◼   ► you excited for a PFS like i know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:08 ◼   ► talked about this in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:09 ◼   ► sitting here now have you been it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:11 ◼   ► like you're keeping up with it keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:12 ◼   ► up with it at least a little bit I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:15 ◼   ► I'm excited for it I'm a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17 ◼   ► worried about compatibility things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:18 ◼   ► because of this encoding issue and I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20 ◼   ► little bit worried about bugs and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:22 ◼   ► but I bought a new fastest then and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7102">TS</a>]

01:58:23 ◼   ► getting one and you know I'm still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:26 ◼   ► still think about it and get sad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:27 ◼   ► the the lack of data integrity features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:29 ◼   ► and stuff like that but there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:31 ◼   ► enough new interesting features that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:33 ◼   ► that I'm still excited for it i just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7113">TS</a>]

01:58:34 ◼   ► worry about you know maybe i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37 ◼   ► like I should really upgrade my synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:39 ◼   ► to btrfs which it now actually supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:42 ◼   ► with the new thing but I don't know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:44 ◼   ► way to do it in place and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7124">TS</a>]

01:58:45 ◼   ► have any place to copy all this data off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:46 ◼   ► to and put it back on except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:48 ◼   ► network and so anyway I would like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:51 ◼   ► my backups at least were someplace where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:54 ◼   ► I knew that they were not bit rotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:55 ◼   ► I'll just continue to have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:58 ◼   ► bury my head in the sand about the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7138">TS</a>]

01:58:59 ◼   ► of the data I'm actual max because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:01 ◼   ► that's not self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7141">TS</a>]

01:59:02 ◼   ► is not helping me there hi titles uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:05 ◼   ► what is it that you and I suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:07 ◼   ► simultaneously Oh Christmas phone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:09 ◼   ► that was that yeah that's it what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:11 ◼   ► the shoelace thing I've already lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7151">TS</a>]

01:59:12 ◼   ► thread on the what was the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15 ◼   ► thread hey what was the analogy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:17 ◼   ► show I was the macbook pro like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7157">TS</a>]

01:59:18 ◼   ► had to reformat it right okay yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:20 ◼   ► if you listen to analog John you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:23 ◼   ► know the story of I know the shul a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7163">TS</a>]

01:59:24 ◼   ► story I've heard that episode stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:26 ◼   ► I've heard that episode you can jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:29 ◼   ► anytime John you don't have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:31 ◼   ► back catalog everyone knows the shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:32 ◼   ► story and and if you had and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:35 ◼   ► didn't hear in an analog in here Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:36 ◼   ► talk about it on eight thousand other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:37 ◼   ► episodes of other shows so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7177">TS</a>]

01:59:39 ◼   ► you can avoid the shoelace but he told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7179">TS</a>]

01:59:40 ◼   ► the best with me dammit I know I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42 ◼   ► I heard it first there I still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:44 ◼   ► Christmas phone although span across my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7184">TS</a>]

01:59:46 ◼   ► leg gap actually starting to edge that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:47 ◼   ► don't like them either like gap what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:50 ◼   ► the true light shoelace is rising this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:52 ◼   ► is my shoelaces rising and oh boo just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:55 ◼   ► going to hear Mike talk about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57 ◼   ► awesome e is for inspiring the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:57 ◼   ► awesome e is for inspiring the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7197">TS</a>]

02:00:00 ◼   ► and I don't want to deal with that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01 ◼   ► he is he is that awesome because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:03 ◼   ► was an amazing story we don't need but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7203">TS</a>]

02:00:04 ◼   ► we don't need to tell him that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:06 ◼   ► need to give him that moment what is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:08 ◼   ► doing with the shoelaces that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7208">TS</a>]

02:00:09 ◼   ► breaking that's my real question I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12 ◼   ► remember the last time I had a shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:13 ◼   ► break like is he being very rough with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15 ◼   ► them is he rubbing his shoe against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:16 ◼   ► something there fraying like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7216">TS</a>]

02:00:18 ◼   ► shoelaces break maybe the style in Great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:20 ◼   ► Britain is to have really tightly laced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7220">TS</a>]

02:00:22 ◼   ► shoes like to really tighten them up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24 ◼   ► know this is very thin I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:25 ◼   ► it's it's a suspicious story my shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7225">TS</a>]

02:00:29 ◼   ► just broke as I pulled really partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31 ◼   ► snap oh I can't I have to put my job now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:33 ◼   ► hey should check to check his lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7233">TS</a>]

02:00:39 ◼   ► cable how are they doing like that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:43 ◼   ► like if I if I replace this lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45 ◼   ► cable I'm I'll just use this iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:48 ◼   ► for another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7248">TS</a>]