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00:00:00   maybe you can switch to maybe maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   have sufficient girth to do a one-legged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   thing where like instead of putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4">TS</a>]

00:00:05   lot of talk on both legs can it can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5">TS</a>]

00:00:07   can it sit on one leg you could have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   laptop on each leg you would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   wielding cool I think we're all set so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/11">TS</a>]

00:00:16   have notes on everything that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   but I didn't check the notes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/18">TS</a>]

00:00:19   doctor okay yes your own personal notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/19">TS</a>]

00:00:23   well guess what I have notes shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   notes follow up you of course you do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/25">TS</a>]

00:00:29   can breathe we can breeze through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   these are all quick oh why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   again Marco into a long tangent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   your deep 20-minute feelings in each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   of these items we can get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   shots fired its gonna be like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   would like you to listen to recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   episodes and see what percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   follow-up items IE MIT a single word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   about yeah but it just takes one it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   takes one it gets you going and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   becomes half the show anyway we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/53">TS</a>]

00:00:57   through this quickly because marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58   not interested oh my god every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   say that all that means is everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   looking at the chapter mark to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   the first stop it begins look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   chapter markers just just listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   show just be just experienced the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   be in the mom be the show be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   moment alright so Stephen Empson rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   in case nobody mentioned turns out turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   out the Wii U gamepad had less display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   lag than most TVs and we'll put a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   links in the show notes John you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   only one of us with wii u i believe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   you want to tell us about this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   John's the only one with a wii u yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   very well maybe yeah it was last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   where I was saying that I like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   the gamepad for Mario Kart because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   felt like there was actually less live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   than a TV which seems crazy because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   is wirelessly sending video to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   so i actually i had read this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   back when I came out I just forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   because I'm old apparently it's measured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   to be about 33 milliseconds of lag for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   the video on the Wii U gamepad which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   sounds like a lot until you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   TVs especially TVs that are either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   in game mode or can't get into a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   game mode that where they turn off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   the image processing the input lag for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   TVs especially if you went through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   receiver and then through a TV can be up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   to like 100 milliseconds so I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   imagining it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   it is very likely that my complete TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   set up as configured at the time i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   doing this is actually slower than using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   the wii u gamepad itself so good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   Nintendo I minimizing that lag bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   whole rest of the AV industry on having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   horrendous leg input lag for television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   set ups what's the mechanism that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   video is being broadcasted gamepad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   that like a private Wi-Fi or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   yeah I think it's like an h.264 stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   over wireless thing I think the prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   Terry I don't think it is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   liberal Wi-Fi but I don't know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39   so it could be like a is an airdrop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   a peer-to-peer thing that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   stood up just in the moment and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   destroyed after you transfer the file or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   files or something like that maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   maybe it's one of those sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   scenarios who knows mm-hmm fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   right in this in the interest of speedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   follow-up for the first time ever tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   us what happened with your Zelda HUD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   playing zelda as everybody knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   Zelda does have a HUD so is every pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   Zelda game they always have something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   the screen that's showing like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   mini map or like Skyward Sword had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   giant honking picture of the wiimote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   which you could turn off and I did turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   off a little status indicators a breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   of the wild has the traditional line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   hearts in the upper left hand corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   the lower right it's got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   circular map thing and some other little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22   icons underneath the hearts it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   couple of other items that appear as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   progress through the game don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   spoil anything for people problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   those items is that they are white much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   of the time one hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   completely opaque white and my TV hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   that and so after playing breath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   wild friday now 20 or 30 hours i noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   i'm getting into retention in the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   left corner for the white items luckily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   breath of the wild has a HUD option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   which i saw when i first start playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   the game because of course being a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   i always go into all the options first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   before starting anything and they called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   they call it the pro HUD which turns off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   basically everything except for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   hearts and i said well i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   turn everything off it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   minimal HUD to begin with it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   minimal very pushed off to the side so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   it's nice but and i like seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   thing someone were useful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/247">TS</a>]

00:04:08   interesting the compass direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   stuff like that so i left and on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   turned out to have been mistakes now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   using the pro HUD which only shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   hearts the hearts are one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   percent britt red and opaque so they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   causing some heart-shaped image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   retention in the upper left but they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   vary a little bit as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22   take damage at the very least and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   hundred percent red is much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   hundred percent white so I'm not kicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   Zelda off my TV yet and moving it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   to the the gaming monitor or anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33   think I'm just going to accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   amount of image pension because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   from our destiny experiment that yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   will get image retention but it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   permanent if you're merely wait a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   it will go away and someone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   suggesting that I get OLED oh let also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   has image retention guess what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   if you had brought a TV with a proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   technology that doesn't have image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   retention this would have been a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   easier but no you had to have you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   have the blackest black sand the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   you stop saying even LCDs have image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   retention mine has it mine has it worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   yeah well and and vibrant colors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   seriously on my gaming monitor it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   such an incredible difference in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   the game looks like compared to what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   looks like on tv and breadth of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   while it's the type of game they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   experience and if there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   HUD in breadth of the wild it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   actually pretty darn minimal so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   to see the full rich experience and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   get the 5.1 surround sound with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   they don't take that much advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   what the speakers are better anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   not kicking it off yet we'll check back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   in next week fair enough Carsten Weiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   maybe vice rights in to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   high-end desktop processors which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   really don't care that much about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   money you can take this this is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   reference to be asking Oh a shelf if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   Intel makes any processors that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   Zeon's that have more than four cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   that in theory could be used in an iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   and Marco said no and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   tweeted that actually they make these a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   bunch of processors within decipherable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   numeric alphanumeric names that have 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   cores and eight cores and six scores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   other people trying done on Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58   say actually those are basically two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   Zeon's rebranded and rename but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   ECC ram and different chipsets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   require them either way it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   however you want to slice it there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   other options that are not the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   the processors in the mac pro that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   could put in the imac if we wanted to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   maybe if they make an imac pro instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   of having a xeon in there they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   have one of these in between easy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   things which would be kind of cruddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   because i really want ECC ram so I from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   you know if I'm going to pay for an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   pro but anyway I'll buy whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   put out because what the hell choice do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   I have yea sorry I'm going to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   Sean during follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   this is the x 99 series that people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   talking about I honestly don't know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   about it I had it in the back of my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   and just forgotten about it but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   like if if you're going to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   trouble of having a very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   processor that puts out a lot of heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   and needs a big socket and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   else like why not just use eons at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   point like I bet the engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   constraints and cost constraints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   everything else around using these is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   probably not that different from just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   using Zeon's in the first place which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   probably why apple doesn't just put one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   of these in an imac Jason Breckenridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   rights in to say more about the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13   a macro delay is likely due to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/433">TS</a>]

00:07:17   AMD to produce something that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   leverage to get intel xeon prices down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   that seems bold to me but anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   continues margins are everything in Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   Cook's Apple not sure how you can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   that but I'll continue especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   low-volume products maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   what do you guys I put this in here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   not to address it directly but just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   the larger issue because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/456">TS</a>]

00:07:41   interesting to me that the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   on this show seemed to all come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   sort of no I'm going to say unspoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   agreement but chances are we spoke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   it because we talked about the knife bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   a lot agreement that there is no new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   Pro coming and yet when I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   like when listeners right in or tweet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   whatever there is still a contingent out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   there that is on a different page than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   we are that they believe that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07   delay like the Mac but there is a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   pro delay the new Mac Pro is coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   maybe i'm wrong but do we all basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13   do the three of us like obviously we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   don't know we're just guessing right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   do we all kind of agree there is no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/496">TS</a>]

00:08:20   mac pro coming in in the terms that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   understand it to be basically like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23   thing that you buy from apple that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   their their fastest computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   doesn't have a screen attached to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   don't know your your the yearly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/509">TS</a>]

00:08:33   you're the one holdout I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   Marco agrees right yeah pretty much I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38   been on the page for a while that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   like there is no new Mac Pro coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   all I'm thinking of is low you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   the way that we understand it I'm I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   hundred percent pinning my hopes on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/528">TS</a>]

00:08:48   mac pro at this point but the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   like so many people right into talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   about what do we think the next Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   is going to be and what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   delaying the next Mac Pro and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   like writing back saying I I've lost my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   faith like I what what new Mac Pro what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01   are you even talking about it's there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   no new Mac Pro the rebel never will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   new mac pro except for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   different than in terms of yet again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   when I say it I'm talking about a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   that you buy that doesn't have a monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   built into it from apple that is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   fastest computer I think that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   gone yeah i mean like all right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   i've been using this imac since 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   because it it just fit my overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/561">TS</a>]

00:09:25   desires better like I really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   retina like I desperately want a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   retina and I thought for years that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   was it was further away and so and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   when they released the 5k imac it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   it blew my mind and it was so good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   it still is so good you know I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   then like okay I will trade some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   processing power and I will trade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   freedom of this external cylinder or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   tower and having it separate my monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   I'll trade that for this awesome screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   experience and the time there really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   no great way to get 5k externally now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   well maybe you could argue that the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/598">TS</a>]

00:10:02   still sucks so badly that make me maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   there still isn't agree we can fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   external in that is what broke me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   recall that was the end I was like I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   I accept I accept it up you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   me and no uncertain terms give up yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/614">TS</a>]

00:10:18   maybe I don't anyway so I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   problem is like I hear from various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   tipsters and rumors and birdies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   everything else I hear a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   like every month every month I here oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   the mac pro is really dead this time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   oh no it's not dead yet it's coming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   know they're they're starting up a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   thing yeah but every time I hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   like I think does what I'm hearing fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   into the idea of an imac pro and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   time i go that totally could be an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   bro all i want is for them to address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   high-end needs and for the current imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:50   series as we know it to not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   highest they ever go because it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   limited in you know limiting itself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   the primarily for core desktop line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   not having desktop class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   high-powered GPU support and desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   class high-powered CPU support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   workstation class i should say cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   support you know there's there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   ceiling above the current imac series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   and it isn't just about getting a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   clock speed on single core it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   like like if you want if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   multi-core performance which lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   things use these days it isn't it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   a matter of just wait till next year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   imac and the four core line will be will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31   be good enough that a mac pro won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   necessary it's literally like the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   grows like five or ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   performance a year and a mac pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   more cores could have like it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   like six times the performance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   that's that's the difference we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   talking about here it's not it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   something that we can just wait a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49   years and the need goes away because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   couple years down the road the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   multi-core high-power workstation chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   have gotten better too so this having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59   having a gap like there's a big gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   between what the imac can do and what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   computer that has a much higher power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08   and heat budget and and money budget can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   do and that use for the Mac Pro and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   it's it's kind of gone and that huge gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/733">TS</a>]

00:12:16   is just being unserved and the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   who need that huge gap are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   windows and hackintosh is another crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   like that that's what I hope Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   addresses whether it has a screen built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   into it or not I would prefer if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   didn't just for additional flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   but I don't really I'm not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   massively disappointed if they give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   new high-end 16 core xeon workstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/758">TS</a>]

00:12:42   that happens to have a 5k screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   front of it which is by the way the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   screen i've ever seen yeah I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   like now that I know there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   third-party monitor that's what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   the imac pro so much more palatable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   me because i will still have an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   monitor that's what i want and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/773">TS</a>]

00:12:57   just paying my hopes on the insides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   that I Mac Pro being all that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   be right here to you to you have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   your talking privileges revoked for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   remainder of follow-up I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   get things quickly and then I said those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   two curse it goddamn words Mac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   then everything took a turn as it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   uh anyway I mean in our defense I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/795">TS</a>]

00:13:19   pretty sure you started it well I died I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/799">TS</a>]

00:13:23   didn't put this in the show notes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   did I reading this I was dutifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   reading John's show notes and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   where we ended up so anyway we'll move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32   on to talk about how Americans are cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   so Jake rights in to say I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   tell you all what I've seen with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   family member that has been in education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   for almost 30 years and this person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   family member works for a 12,000 student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   school district in America in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   district there several schools need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   repairs or renovation keep students safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51   over the last two years the district has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   presented referendum which goes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   public vote to the public which gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   voted down a secondary referendum for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   lesser amount of money which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   voted down and now there's a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   referendum on the table the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   referendum has a lot of opposition this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   time at this time and according to Jake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   they don't play nice so Jake summarizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   people aren't really not fond of taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   being raised sport education I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   this every day for the last uh decade or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   two of my life even when kids safety is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   on the line there is still opposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   it's really sad and this is an exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   retelling of my childhood in in n what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/868">TS</a>]

00:14:32   now how do I say this because however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   it's i pronounced it apparently everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   was very very upset just putting the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   just putting the emphasis on the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39   syllable that's all right what what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   flight attendant movie was that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   actually saw but that preview that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   on the initials is very popular I parted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49   back in middle schools i don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   original origin asst and anyway i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   fluent is what you're trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   thank you so you said about yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   apparently and very there were a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   people it's probably an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59   pronunciations because everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   yeah i always have that defense you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   look it up I'm sure I'm sure that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   but whatever so affluent is that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   yep anyway it doesn't matter whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   lived into an area that had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   rich people in it so there we go so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   point is this was the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   behavior that I saw at my school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   district which we went over last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   we had several other people right in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   say very very similar things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   equally depressing and this was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   really great summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   how Americans are cheap and and I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   all of us so i just thought i'd share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   that little anecdote speaking of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   that we won't talk long about at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   quite sure twitter twitter if it for mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   the kickstarter made it and the stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43   goal of 100 thousand dollars to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44   basic things like direct messaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   support also made it which is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   exciting so congratulations John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   Syracuse the this moment is yours yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   this is a right victory lap for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   project and for all of the listeners to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   this show who I'm sure heard my plea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   pledged support and it amazes me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   was just at the goal I set for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   says ignore the fact that the goal is 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   grand the stretch goals 100 grand and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   need to get that because that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   like direct messages come in as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   I love terrific I really don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   use a mac Twitter client doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   direct messages so we did it 108,000 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   the total we passed 100 k as a marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/976">TS</a>]

00:16:20   was pointing out now I have to pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   money that I pledged towards it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   there are a lot of people i know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   twitter told me that not only did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   pledge because they heard my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   encouragement to do so but they also up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   their pledges when they saw that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   wasn't close to its goal or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   thank you to everybody who did that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   sure this will turn out great the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   the one bad thing for me is that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   course I can't alright may not be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   to run this project if it's Sarah only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   until and unless I get a new mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   runs I mean it's not supposed to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   until much later nice is really is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   be not as expensive Twitter client ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   free huh yeah well I want to get the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   mac anyway but gonna be a few bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   Twitter and average for tweet button key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   thousand bucks for a new mac i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   lobbying them through certain channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   to perhaps try to support back dale cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   but i don't know if that will happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   either way I want a new mac the run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   Sierra and I want to be able to run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   thing and it's not done yet so fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   crossed everybody but thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14   everybody who helped this is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   congratulations John siracusa I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   very very excited for you I know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   was uh this was a big deal for you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   just use tweetbot but that's cool Cirie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   has multi-language support several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   people wrote in with regard to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   ladies in the cylinder conversation last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   episode to remind us that in it is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   needed a reminder that that what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:39   the the the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   which I'm stumbling so hard to say our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   name yes the echoes lady I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   to say the AL exa word um the echoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   lady does not have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   multi-language support whereas the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:56   lady does have considerable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   comparison multi-language support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   that's a big deal for anyone who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   speak English and obviously we tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   be more myopic than we intend when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   comes to these sorts of things but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   people outside of the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   Britain etc Australia to before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   people emailing us about that um people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18   outside those areas you know the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   choice I really have a Serie and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   kind of a big bummer so anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   worth considering we didn't really give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   any thought to that last episode what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   it wasn't uh somebody wrote in to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:32   onto the they will actually for the some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   someone run in there in a foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   country and they said that they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   speak to whatever thing they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   speaking to in their native language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   they had to pronounce things the way an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   English feature English speaker would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   try to say the words in their language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   in order to be understood which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   thought was interesting that like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   though it purports to understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   language if you speak sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   colloquially and just like casually as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:59   you would it doesn't work as well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   think like how would an American trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   to speak my language say this and say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   that way then then the cylinder picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   out which I thought was funny I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   it's working on works the same way here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   you kind of think like how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10   somebody in California say this like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   way I say it never works right you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   gotta add in a groovy and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   whatever the other lingos reckon can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   get me a Jaguar with an automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   transmission Wow that'll work perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   don't forget the passive aggression no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   mean so I think what about what bugs me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   about a lot of the times i see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   pointed out is when it's used as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   defense for areas in which siri is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   doing so well or as stupider than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   should be so to me these should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   carefully considered as separate factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   yes sirree is better at international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:47   and multi-language support amazon sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   internationally they have terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   coverage outside the US for all of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   and the echoes voice service is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   exception to that but what Amazon's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   better at is in the like one language in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:05   that they support well it simply works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   more reliably and I know there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   areas in which Siri is better and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   that's fine there's areas in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   amazon is better but these are separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   discussions and I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   valid excuse for apple or four for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:25   fans and commentators to use just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   whenever anybody points out that Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   does something less well than it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   or that Amazon does something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   well it is not a valid excuse to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   well series report supports you know 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   different languages it's like well okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   it does the sky is also blue these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   separate facts these are separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   discussions right like so that's I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   this a lot in a way that bothers me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   that is an attribute that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:52   commended you know it is great this here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   supports all the different languages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   if you speak one of those languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   that's a huge factor for you in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   way that other factors of these products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   might influence other people's decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:02   I would just be careful how we throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   that around because so often it's used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   in this kind of invalid defense fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   enough all right so I've a very quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:14   question about the Apple watch which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   kind of a call to listeners to tweet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19   me and me alone and then I'd like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   to your lawfully i am going to regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   this but i'm curious and then marco has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   a tale of waffling ideas a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   delicious than it said you have a brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   tale of waffling right Marco yeah very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   bright well I do I wasn't I wasn't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   you guys knew about it somebody put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   the show notes we know everything we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   watching always watching cool all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   well anyway I I wanted to want to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:45   the audience and you can tweet at me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   me alone you don't need to bother mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   when John do you I've been doing this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   the way I know if you have a Syria what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:55   we calling this a series 0 an original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   Apple watch do you find that the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   is starting to get a little long in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   tooth and starting to wear out a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   more quickly than you use than it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   to be cuz i got i took delivery of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   apple watch in early May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   and the last couple days it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   nice enough out that I can go for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   afternoon or really evening walk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   Declan and i'll do a walking exercise on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   my Apple watch and as soon as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   started doing that last few days at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   unreasonably early hours my Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   is going from oh I'm fine everything I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   asleep and power reserve mode is on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1348">TS</a>]

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00:23:00   watch and my battery is awesome as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   sits there on it's charging thing on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1382">TS</a>]

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00:23:24   camera roll out of the social feeds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1404">TS</a>]

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00:23:28   can really see them and really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1408">TS</a>]

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00:23:45   roll and refresh your walls in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   house with actual photo prints that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   can enjoy of your photos it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1429">TS</a>]

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00:23:53   split these great cameras in our pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1433">TS</a>]

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00:24:14   on glass and it hangs up nicely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   wall they ship it nicely I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   one arrived broken although of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   they guarantee it if it does they left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1460">TS</a>]

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00:24:36   will be amazed how nice these photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1476">TS</a>]

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00:24:40   beautiful panes of glass look they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   wonderful gifts as well if you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1482">TS</a>]

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00:24:47   know some of the holidays coming up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   Mother's Day and stuff it is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   worth a try fracture you will see for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1491">TS</a>]

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00:24:55   me they can't pay me to say that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   can't pay me to see how much I love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and i'll tell you what i love them check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   it out today fracture me calm and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   they ask you where you heard about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   make sure to enter accidental tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   podcast or ATP whatever they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1507">TS</a>]

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00:25:11   don't forget to tell them where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   where you heard about them fracture me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1512">TS</a>]

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00:25:21   your waffling but I'm gonna say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:25   by my count your third mac laptop order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   since the new mac laptops are released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   again oh my god Marco here's here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   happened oh here we go yeah you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   do it why did you have to do it here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   here's what happened all right I'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   to be brief as we have all of us talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   about on my I recently came back from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   trip on the way home I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   supposed to have downloaded a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   for TIFF and I to watch on the plane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   last minute at the airport I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   like at the departure airport I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   I had not done it over the hotel Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   overnight like I had planned and i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   to very quickly download episodes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   TV show and of course nothing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   available in any legal fashion so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   going to ship them to myself on a truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   and there are numerous ways to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16   on airport Wi-Fi none of which are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   good and the only way I found for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:23   show that I was supposed to downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   but didn't download the only way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   could find it is a certain kind of truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   that let's say it forms a torrential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:34   downpour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   data pieces into a TV show I knew like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:40   you know if I could just use a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   newspaper delivery trucks that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   better but the the torrential downpour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   of trucks was the only thing I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   work in a reliable fashion from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   airport Wi-Fi that I was on and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   plane was taking off in like a half hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   and I just had to get something quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   so I installed a type of torrential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:05   downpour truck that I had trusted in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   past even though I knew that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   that they I heard they kind of got shady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   with bundling smaller satellite trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   with it install yahoo search toolbar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   your browser installed java it did set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   my homepage to yahoo and all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   browsers that's the stuff and on my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   mac i have an older version of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   truck that has note i downloaded years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   ago that has no problems but on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   the new version that i could get off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   website quickly it did a bunch of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   stuff that I don't trust and so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   of this I now consider my 15 inch touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:44   bar macbook pro compromised and I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   to format it and reinstall basically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51   my own sanity do you guys remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   made my curly quit his job oh god it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:59   him having to buy a new pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   shoelaces and yet how does that justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   you getting a new damn computer I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   gonna say to remind everybody this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   about him forgetting to download a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   show and trying to do to the airport is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   going to lead to him buying a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   computer just whoever's on the same page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   all right so basically the gist of it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:17   I can summarize my curly story about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   he of what made him finally quit a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   become a professional podcasters is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   he he was going to his his office job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   where he had to dress up and he broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   the shoelace on his shoe and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   thinking acquitting for a while and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   finally pushed him over the edge because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   he's like you know I I don't want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   a new pair of shoelaces for these shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   because it was kind of like reinforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   and reinvesting in the world he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   was not happy with and trying to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   so you decided to just stop at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   point I'm sorry if you butch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   I bunch of that in case you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   offhand what episode of analog people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   should listen to no i don't but i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   have it in the show notes okay i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56   remember which episode it is but we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   into detail about this and it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   one of the better episodes of analog if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   i do say so myself so it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   listening to ok so when faced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   need to reformat my 15 inch touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   macbook pro at the end of this trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   probably the third or fourth trip I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   taken it on I was already not loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   this computer on this trip in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   things about it that I that I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   bought it I was like you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   love this but I'll get used to it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   and some of those things I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   used to decently enough some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   things I haven't I I just have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   motivation to fix this computer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   though it's a software you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   reinstall the OS which I have to do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   if I get a new one I will then start on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   a fresh one and then I'll have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   know put everything back on that one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   don't want to this this is my shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   and I don't want to fix this laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   because I just don't like it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   finally admitting to myself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   what the 15 inch touch bar macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   it's not a bad computer it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   designed with different priorities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   different needs than what my needs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   priorities actually are and i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   would get past it i thought i'd get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   to it and I thought certain things would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   would stick better than they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   for me honestly the touch bar doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   work for me it may be down the road it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   will but right now it doesn't and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   it causes a lot of problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   accidentally brushing against it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   other issues bugs incident so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   I thought you know what I can't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   anymore i'm going to switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   computer that i actually like and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   original plan was i'm going to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33   the next update to the macbook one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   give that a solid try again because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   that when i first got the first one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   really hated it part of the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   hated it was the keyboard but well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   they all have that keyboard and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   like well I i I'm forcibly getting used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   to that keyboard it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   well that's that that is kind of now an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   equal between them almost I mean though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   the one on the map book one currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   has less feedback it is still the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   low travel but it has less feedback then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   the ones that are on the new 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   macbook pros I'm used to that one now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   MacBook Pros I still don't like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   I'm used to it so I can tolerate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   and I was assuming that the next update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   to the macbook one would get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   keyboard also the original map book one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   I mean all the map ones are very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   but in in the 2016 update was it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:21   dramatically increased the speed of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   SSD which it which dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26   increases the performance of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   things in the system and so the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   what owners have reported basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   that the the second version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   macbook one which is the one that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   on for about a year now is significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   faster than the first version was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   thanks tipster the GPU is also a lot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   lot faster which also helps so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   thought you know let me just wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   that and then I'll make a decision well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   I'm about to go on a trip in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   couple of weeks to Ireland to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   all-conference and like like Arthur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   friends I will pimp the OL conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   not because they've asked me to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   because I feel obligated to but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   if you are anywhere near Ireland or can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   get to Ireland in a couple of weeks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   should go to the all-conference it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   amazing so go to the old conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   everybody ull dot IE is cool anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   going to Ireland this is the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   kind of trip where I want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   laptop with me but I don't really get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   lot of work done I'm trips anymore I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   I always try and I just I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   it's very rare that actually get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   of work done since the 15-inch was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   for me i speaking you know this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   a great time to have a new smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:30   laptop to try to use to enjoy and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34   the 15-inch is not working for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   lots of reasons and one of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   reasons is the touch bar that really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   not working for me I think my choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   were basically the macbook law under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   macbook escape or an old macbook pro you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   know like I can get the old 13 of the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   already have my old 15 so I took out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   old 15 figured I'd boot that up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   little bit use that for a couple days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   see how that goes and it's fine but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:55   ruin now for the weight difference on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   the new one even though going from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   old to the new 15 is only a half pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   savings went from like four point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   to four point oh that's enough that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   ruin me so now I pick up the old one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   it and it feels really old the then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   the event or the announcements rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   the other day yesterday the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   came out and I thought apple is sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   update the macbook one so let me wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   for this announcement and then I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   probably just order a macbook one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   with the new hopefully with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   keyboard and with the new you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   maybe faster Thunder maybe Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   until just us bc or whatever else okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   was going to do the same thing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   record i had every intention of buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   myself a macbook adorable / macbook 1 / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:42   officially called macbook the 12 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   macbook but right i was planning to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   one yesterday i was locked and loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47   ready to go and then not so much so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:51   did you do see I I know how I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   to not spend money but if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   anything you know how to do it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   spending money is not on that list you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   you do not know how to not spend money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   all I can do is rationalize spending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04   little bit less money than I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   to spend anyway but anyway the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08   day came and went they had their big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   browser press releases which people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   to don't worry everyone will get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   and they didn't release basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   anything I wanted but but yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   didn't they didn't release the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   one so I decided you know what let me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   to the apple store now that everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   in stock I'll spend some real time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   the macbook escape and the macbook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   side by side and to just see like should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   I just wait for an escape or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   strikers by an escape now or should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   wait for the map of one update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   might happen in a couple of weeks or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   might happen in six months or it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   never happen we have not liked it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   is modern Apple who knows when things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   will come out there's no relation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   anymore to like Intel schedules so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   could come out anytime or never so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   anyway so I went to the store side by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   side macbook escape to MacBook one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   weight difference between them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   noticeable it's two pounds versus three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   pounds so it's a noticeable weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   difference it's a noticeable size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   difference but the macbook Escape is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   same approximate size and weight as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   13-inch macbook air has always been it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   feels great it's small you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:16   critically it is basically a retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   macbook air in its internals and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   has amazing battery life the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   battery life in the whole lineup and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   of my problems with the 15 inches that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   the battery life is just not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   it's it's not horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   all but it's not great and it varies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   tremendously with what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   because it has that high-powered GPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   the nice big four core cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   everything else so 15 inch varies a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   and isn't even great to begin with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   macbook escape has and by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   should clarify my stupid name for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   that's the 13-inch MacBook Pro 2016 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49   two Thunderbolt ports and also known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   the non-touch bar 13 inch MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   all these want to see at my name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   better than apples right okay so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   the macbook escape it is not as small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   and light as I would love it to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   it's pretty small in light the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   one now again this is this is the now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   year old version so maybe this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   change in the new one but the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:12   different side by side is not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   difference but it is noticeable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   macbook one keyboard is worse by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   know a noticeable amount the ergonomic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   difference is more noticeable than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:26   would have guessed you know the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   one feels great when you're holding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   when you pick it up when you when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   carrying it around feels great I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   care for how you have to open the lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35   basically with two hands because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   thin and so small that you kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   can't really like wed your thumb under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   like the little lip area and push down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   on what's below it like you can with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   bigger ones you don't have to that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   babbles all big thing you can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49   one hand and the bass stays down yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   does it really does i tried all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   the apple store on them amazing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55   often how it works actually try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   you're right that it's hard to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   finger under it but it's if you'd let go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   of the notion you actually need to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   the base down and you can manage to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   through a little finger under the lip I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:05   swear to you that the base will stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   the table oh I don't realize that okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   anyway so it didn't feel as good it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   like a little bit like flimsy to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   like just like it's not a huge deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   when you compare them side-by-side it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   an obvious difference also when i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   the macbook escape for like a day and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   half when it first came inside of epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   14 day and a half and a first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   one problem i had with it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   actually on my lap it was too narrow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31   it would likes it too low on my legs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   a result like it wouldn't quite span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35   across my leg gap quite well enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   i actually found it not that pleasant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   use on my lap it would be great on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   an airplane tray table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   and it'd be totally you know suitable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   a desk and anything else but on my lap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   actually found it was actually not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   wide enough to really be comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   there and and the biggest difference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   me is that the macbook ones trackpad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:59   truly awful it is horrendous how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:03   differently when you when you feel them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   side by side even on the same settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   on the same like force touch firmness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   level or whatever the difference in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   cliq feel and the responsiveness between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   the macbook one and the macbook escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   is massive on the on the trackpad it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   huge difference I basically decided then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   that you know I actually don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   want a macbook one again even if it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:26   updated so i played with the escape a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   little bit longer play with the one a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   little bit longer firm but my decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   went home and ordered a maxed-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   macbook escape except for that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   get the terabyte I got the 512 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   still time for you to cancel that order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   again I already canceled the same order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   16 months ago I know I'm saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   gonna make it this time is it gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   it I I'll see how it goes and ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   again you know in a couple of weeks what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:52   are you doing with your with your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   one um once once i'm sure that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   to keep the escape i'll sell the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   unless casey wants it i can sell to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   so you were like the the proverbial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   little lady only drove to church on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   sunday if you want a lightly used yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   laptop for a reasonable price just wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   for Marco to get bored of it exactly oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   goodness I don't even know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   with you though I'm most disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   that you didn't get a macbook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   because I would have bought that off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   you in two weeks or two weeks a day when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   you decide that you don't want this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   but as it turns out that's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   bought but I have the complete opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   of 15 inch no I don't want a 15-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   like that either interest me but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   want that like I I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   it's bad I'm not sad just at today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   my needs today I don't want it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   it what I really want is a new 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   touch bar for work but I'm not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   another computer for work for like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   or three years so alas anyway like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   the reason I got the 15 to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   was that I had originally ordered this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   exact same macbook escape configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2393">TS</a>]

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00:39:57   ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   and because it was day one there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   like a two-week delay or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   because I they were all backed up and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   the meantime I convinced myself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   whatever I think it's like 2200 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   like 2200 dollars for effectively a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   souped-up MacBook Air is kind of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2410">TS</a>]

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00:40:14   of that and the 15 inch it for bang for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2414">TS</a>]

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00:40:20   than any of the other laptops and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   kind of rash on myself into into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:24   15-inch and I also thought the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2424">TS</a>]

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00:40:36   computer that was actually not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2436">TS</a>]

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00:40:40   there somewhere I don't know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   touch bar ended up not really sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2442">TS</a>]

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00:43:09   before we go to big into the last 48 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:13   hours worth of announcements there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   little bit of talk but not a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   the apple shareholder diversity proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   and this always struck me is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   weird and how Apple's handling it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:28   little weird but if you recall for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   last couple of shareholder meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   maybe in several now there's been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   sort of um and I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   appropriate terminology but there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   a thing that they had to vote on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   that shareholders had petitioned Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   for where the the general premise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   this particular thing they're voting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   is to adopt an accelerated recruitment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:52   policy to increase the diversity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   senior management and its board of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   directors that's actually coming off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   verge article put the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   this has been voted down yet again and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:01   have mixed feelings about this which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   probably shouldn't because on the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   side I feel like well they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   executive team that everyone but Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   thinks is working okay it seems a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:15   silly to just throw one or more of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   out for the sake of diversity but but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   the other side of the coin diversity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2661">TS</a>]

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00:44:26   executive team might help get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   some of these issues that we've seen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2669">TS</a>]

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00:44:50   that Apple was was pushing pretty hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   for for shareholders to say no to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   but and so I am disappointed I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   surprised but I'm disappointed and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   kind of wish that apple would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   something more directly about their lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:08   of diversity really across the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   but particularly amongst executives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:14   yes I'm aware that they've been making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   this big push for diversity or so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   say but I feel like it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   hitting the upper echelon of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   that's that's not a good thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   guess maybe my conflicting feelings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   just about I think it would be good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   do what this what this shareholder but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   whatever is trying to do this just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   like a peculiar way to go about doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   but I guess this is the only way a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   shareholder can force apples hand I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   don't know it's I know that's very muddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   in gray but do you guys have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   thoughts on this oh they're not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   thing doesn't ask them to throw out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47   executives like that's not the choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   they're making your oh I doubt this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   proposal and you have to can one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   top executives know they totally don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   think we talked about this the maybe one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   of the earlier times that it came up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   I think the situation is still the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59   and it boils down to companies don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:03   like being told what to do right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   fact that this is a shareholder proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07   and that is coming from the outside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   that the shareholders trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   Apple you should do this specific thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   I think just institutionally all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15   corporations are like you're you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   the boss of me you can't like an apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   answer is always this weird sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   vaguely hostile mumbo-jumbo to say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:26   we already have we already have our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   initiatives about diversity that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   actually broader than this very narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   proposal therefore we reject it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   every time I look at this thing go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   have to think like it's this this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   even actually about of river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   diversity it is totally about the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   that big companies and especially Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   their default position on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   share over the proposal is no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   we have board of directors we are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   bosses of ourselves even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   technically owned the company are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   large portion of the company through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   your shares or whatever there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   enough of you there is not enough of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   coalition to make it worth our while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   listen to you you cannot tell us what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   do and doesn't matter what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   whether it's about you know a renewable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   energy or executive compensation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   diversity over the years and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:16   these type of proposals and seeing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   the stories about like just Apple read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   it apple always advises to reject all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22   them and it's kind of ashamed of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   one is specifically about diversity I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   not sheriff I'm not sure if the proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   it would be better or worse at advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:32   the cause of diversity with an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   than what Apple is already doing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   difficult to tell because again these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   are you tend to be very focused and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   of not vindictive but like like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   Apple you gotta whatever you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   it's taking too long and it is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   ineffective so here is a more aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   thing that may or may not have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51   regard for the success of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   overall just saying look at we gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   off your butt so it could be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   important function of these is to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   Apple no and no in certain terms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   they're not doing a good enough job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   right that and that's why enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   shareholders got together to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   proposal to vote on Apple's still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   to recommend against that Apple still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   going to think their plan is good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   hopefully the message is getting through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:12   that whatever it is that you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   you're not doing it fast enough or well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   enough but I continue to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   Apple will reject every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19   these proposals are Apple Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   encourage the rest of the shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   to reject their mother because these go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   up for a vote for all the shelves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   Apple has a recommendation we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   shareholders should vote this down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28   in the end they tend to because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31   shareholders of Apple there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   at a certain point it's a small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   of very rich shareholders who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   inclined to do with the corporation says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   versus a much larger number of not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   as with shareholders who are backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   this type of proposal so it is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   difficult in a comfortable situation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   I think Apple Apple should be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52   Apple needs to change what it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   even if it continues to reject all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56   continues to encourage its shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   of all these down and those challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:00   continue to do so that's it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   tough situation and I wish that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   was a easy turnkey answer but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   wanted to call attention to that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   breaking news just before we recorded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:13   a rare stroke of good luck for ATP it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16   seems that Apple clearly the executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   listen to this program because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   getting a new Mac Pro wait nevermind I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   guess they don't listen but anyway uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   yeah they seem to all the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   executive seem to always want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   apple news on Thursdays which is the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   after we record but in a rare stroke of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   good luck on this evening like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   or two before we started recording it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   was announced and I first saw it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   TechCrunch my friend of the show Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   Panzer II know that Apple has bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   app and the company that makes it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   workflow which if you listen to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   the shows of some of our friends you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   know that people like my curly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   Federico vtg for example are huge into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   workflow I've used it a bunch i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   like it i'm nowhere near their level but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   i do like it and use it and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   trick just whether or not workflow has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   place in your life it is a phenomenally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:13   impressive app and basically it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   of kind of like Automator is on OS 10 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19   excuse me mac OS that that's not a truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   fair analogy but sort of that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   thing where you can you have a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   different actions that you can string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   together also vaguely similar to if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   than that and you can string these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31   actions together to do to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   workflows and and to do these just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   unbelievably complex things so Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   bought workflow and the I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   three founders of the company are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:45   to be working for apple and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   really really exciting now I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   hearing breaking news that I haven't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50   confirmed that apparently they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   already they've already made the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   free good but they're already removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:58   chrome support and Street View actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   because Apple yeah well actually there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   might be something else to that okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   so a couple of weeks ago or recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   like a week ago so like that I got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   email from workflow I don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   into too many details because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   know if they wanted this to be public or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   not so I'll try to be tasteful here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   basically workflow has supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   overcast URL scheme for quite some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   and I got an email basically with from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   asking me to sign a legal document that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:34   basically says it's okay for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   call my app via its URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   something on the lines of like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   want us to continue supporting this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   the future please sign this document in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   my best guess at the time which turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   to be true is that somebody is about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   invest a lot of money in them or acquire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   them and is doing due diligence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   somebody's lawyer told the somebody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   all the money bind them or investing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   them you know they should really sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   this up in some kind of legal fashion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   make sure that none of the apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   workflow calls via URL schemes would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:08   later threaten them in any legal way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   using like an undocumented API or using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   an API without permission or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   like that my best guess with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:18   immediate removal of the Google related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   features is not that Apple is being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   jerk to Google but the Google probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   just didn't respond and didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   consider signing this document because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   like it's a it's it's it was basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   very very simple but still legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   contract like document I i I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   lawyer I can't tell you exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   was but it looks like a very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   contract so you would imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   emailing Google to say hey sign this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   contract please we can keep calling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   from art from our iOS app like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   think that's going to be a high priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   for Google's legal department to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   but they're usually so responsive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   people it's so out of character for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57   exactly so basically I'm guessing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   it again this is not some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   you know Apple immediately being a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   to Google because their Google it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   probably google didn't feel like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   worth responding to that or hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   gotten to it yet or legal decided it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   wasn't worth the the legal implications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   and so you know after the acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18   Apple probably just says all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19   this is this is your deadline that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   anybody just for legal protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   reasons for themselves anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   hasn't signed this document saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   can call their secret api's or URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   schemes or whatever you can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   anymore that's interesting take yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   the the bigger issue on workflow though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   is like after saw this acquisition what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37   I immediately felt was I felt bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   fatigue E and Mike and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   workflow enthusiasts because when apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   buys a company that does something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   this it can go a couple different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   they can be what they call an aqua hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   where the whole point is they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53   buying it to get these employees who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   proven that they're really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   iOS developers and so we tap or Apple we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   would love really good iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   let's buy the company and now we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   those developers and then the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   just gets sunsetted becomes free it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   hangs out for a while is it's sunset sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   sat yeah and then it just goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   other possibilities like what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   with test flight where they buy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   it continues to exist but now as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   apple internal thing but here's the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   even in that scenario Apple's priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   are different than the priorities of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   independent workflow company even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   strategy tax things like even though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   this chrome thing is probably not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   right but Apple has different priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   different things are important to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   as the platform owner then they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34   someone writing an application on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   platform so even in the best case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:40   workflow is going to change in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   are better for Apple and probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   better for existing workflow customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   it it could change in ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   better for both because they now work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   all has access to private api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   notice about the roadmap or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   workflow itself could be integrated into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   the next major version of iOS as a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   feature of the OS to stop being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   independent application or become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   bundled application like there are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   scenarios but either way it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   disruption to the workflow of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   people who use this application as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   of their daily work even if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   have to rejigger all your scripts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   change things around so I there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   baby it may be a really bad situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   for people who love workflow but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   someone who has workflow and uses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   little bit but don't have my work is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   intimately tied into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28   but I think I'm hoping that it is a yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:33   another sign that Apple is trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   things to make iOS a more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   platform for people with more demanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   needs because I like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45   believe that it was purely these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   are good IRS developers get them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   have them do something I want to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   it's because they recognize that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:53   people who are using iOS devices in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   in the most sophisticated way love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   workflow and that's something those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   capabilities should be part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   operating system to make iOS on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   or even on the phone for that matter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   more capable system so I think overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   it's encouraging but for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12   really really love workflow I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   very near future is either slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   painful or very grim but the longer term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   future for the platform I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   better yeah I think that's right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   the way workflow you know where flow has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   a lot of different features these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   but kind of the core of it and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   part of it before had all these all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   these new like API related features well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   is it was just calling URL schemes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   apps and using X callback URL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:41   everything else and you know X callback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   URL i I don't I don't say this to brag I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47   say this as historical context Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   Pearce that I actually invented that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   that's Greg Pearce is the developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   drafts and and also a couple other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   and one of them is terminology and which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   is like it's like a fancy dictionary app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   basically and back in 2010 he contacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:06   me asking like is there a way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   can make Instapaper basically shell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   to terminology for its dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   lookups and we we basically went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   and forth over a couple days via email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   and worked out this URL scheme called x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   call back and that and you could just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   had these parameters and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   basically the first thing i knew of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   iOS where there was a defined protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   that you could launch you could sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   to another app VAR URL scheme and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   that app a way to call you back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   it's done at the time i think both of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   look at this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   a tremendous hack and and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:44   an event and it became big anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   you know and Greg Greg went and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   really kind of took the ball and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52   and ran with it and made a whole site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   and directory about X callback URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   formally documented this little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00   fairly simple URL scheme spec that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   had come up with and then made this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   directory of all the different apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   used it and document all the URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   and naturally what made the the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   x callback URL take off was that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   site that he ran and publicizing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   everything else but even back then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   is 2010 remember even back then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   both Greg and I looked at it as this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   really a temporary need that surely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   the future iOS is going to add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   better ways of interacting and scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31   and things like that like wait other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   other ways to solve this problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   isn't calling URL schemes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   background and launching apps and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   kicking you between different apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   having them all come to the program for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   a second and kick you back like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   kind of a terrible hack and now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48   almost seven years later iOS has added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:52   extensions which helped tremendously but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   only in certain ways like only in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   the extension points and only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   very strict ways those are defined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   in the very limited areas that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   exist in so extensions help a little but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:04   what they need is something bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   on the Mac they have the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   applescript interface not to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   everything from the UNIX you know system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:13   below it all the different scripting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   IPC mechanisms that are all over the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:17   OS like the Mac has it's very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   covered but iOS still really doesn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22   there is very much a need if if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26   wants to keep pushing iOS into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   productivity which is especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   important for the ipad business i'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   and it sure wouldn't help the icer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   wouldn't hurt the iphone business either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   but to keep it happy wants to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38   people into more productivity use on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   they need automation systems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   they need mechanisms in in the in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   itself for apps to communicate with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   other automate each other and for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:53   you know define write and edit and chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   together those automations and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   know again on the mac that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   know again on the mac that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   while this already have had it for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:00   decades even if I was a user of workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:05   I would not feel great about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   of that app right now because in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   acquisition the future of the app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   and this is I think clearly mostly an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:16   aqua higher and in like the official you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19   know story to the press I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   said it wasn't but I think it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   clearly is everyone always says it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   everyone always says their product going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   to keep going indefinitely and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   going to be wonderfully a great plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   the future and then it gets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   sunset so I would not depend on this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34   being there in say a year or two but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:38   do think that there's a good chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   the reason they bought this app and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   you know the reason they hired this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   talented team who's really good at iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   automation probably has something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   with an effort to improve iOS automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   at the system level and again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   pretty much everything John side I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   with that I would not expect this app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   continue to exist in you know two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   say i would bet that you know it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:07   late probably for iOS 11 but i would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   by iOS 12 or 13 there is something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:14   is some kind of system or new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   in the OS that is better in in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22   at automation than URL schemes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   things like that which would make say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   you know seventy percent of workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   unnecessary and Apple would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   that good enough and then they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32   kill the app I don't know I my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:36   reaction is oh this app is going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   immediately and then as I thought more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   about it I thought you know the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   obvious answer to me is what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   marco which is it'll get sucked into iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49   maybe in 12 if not 11 but or whatever on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:54   now god I'm losing and keep on losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   track but anyways it was knocked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   some version of a hot yeah thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   it'll get sucked into some version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   iOS and then it'll go away and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   be that but then I got thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   more and the reason I felt like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   would get sucked into iOS is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   feels like this is wrong for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   make an appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   is so feature-rich and offers so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   functionality that isn't part of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   itself and that very well still could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   but then I got to thinking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   iMovie or garage band or you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:26   of these other apps like that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   occurred to me that you know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   pretty full featured apps and yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   less of a system-level thing like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   the problem domain i think is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   more bounded but they're really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:39   big complex kind of intense apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43   are apple-branded but are downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:47   optionally from the App Store and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   this may not be any different I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   disappointed by but like you said Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   maybe it's for good reason that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:55   some of the third party stuff is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   getting neutered but nevertheless I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   pretty optimistic about this probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   part because I don't rely on it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   my job done but I'm pretty optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   about this because it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   win-win right either a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   functionality gets built into iOS makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   iOS more powerful or if it's if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   kept in some vague form like it is today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:18   well it's a great darn app and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   a win too so I'm I'm very tentatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   optimistic about this well the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   thing that that people that workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   users I think should find somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   comforting is that most of the app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:33   know it's not doing things that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   these developers and only this app could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   do it's doing things that are possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   for anyone else to step in and recreate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43   with a new app I don't say this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44   insult the app or or to say that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   easy to make but that it is bit is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   combination of things that each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   which is fairly easy and so I wish like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   most apps honestly but but the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:58   like if workflow disappears if it shuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01   down or it it is made to suck in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04   that people find intolerable there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   be a new one someone else will make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   new one it might take a few months but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   someone else will make a new one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12   there's clearly a market demand for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   there and and these are high-end you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   know technical and and very devoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   users if workflow disappears there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   going to immediately be a not massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:26   but very passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   very desperate market who would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   pay like 10 15 20 bucks for an iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   to replace it so I wouldn't worry too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   much about that unless Apple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   starts prohibiting apps that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   this which would be possible that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   certainly a risk I wouldn't say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   incredibly likely but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   certainly a risk but anyway basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   workflow people there might be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   disruption I don't mean that in the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   guy sense I mean that in the literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   meaning of the word there might be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   disruption to your workflows I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   but god this is terrible phrase in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:05   market but I think in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   you'll be okay so we brought up test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   flight already which is I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   the most best example of an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:16   that was bought and contented and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   the icon today the test flight continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   to be called test flight yeah as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:24   separate application and Apple uses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   for the purpose the test flight was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   created so it's like it survived the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   acquisition right and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   your applications that totally go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   or become free and disappear serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   call will just point on Twitter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   Siri Siri was an independent company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   about the people you know like same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   thing if they had an application on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   store and it went free when it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   bought back in 2010 but eventually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44   got rolled into the OS so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   possibility for this is that you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   hope that this what this means is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51   Apple wants to make automation better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   iOS like it's that seems clear like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   you know in some fashion whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   just gonna have these people do a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   thing or you're going to incorporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   that but you could have workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   appearing as an apple application with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   different icon perhaps bundled with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   OS perhaps free downloadable you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08   an apple-branded thing until the big new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:13   we have big improvements automation come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   in iOS 12 or something so it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   the application like becomes part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   OS in terms of it's still called work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:25   floats still more or less works the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26   maybe gets a new coat of paint and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   that sits there doing its thing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   people who made that application are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32   working on the next big thing in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35   of automating workflows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   incorporate maybe you know working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40   conjunction with whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   possible multitasking improvements they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   may be coming anti OS that will see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   summer or whatever so there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   possibilities and I see all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48   point towards to me anyway automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   becoming better on the mac but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54   really especially with the portability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   like will my workflow sport over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   new Apple one will the my workflows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   carry over to the new world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   automation that's going to happen in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   12 who knows but I think I think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04   are going in the right direction even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05   though it might be a little painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06   short term I did you mean iOS there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4026">TS</a>]

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01:07:38   the recipes and planning the meals to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4058">TS</a>]

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01:09:20   in this episode yesterday there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4160">TS</a>]

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01:09:24   of new apple products and so I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   to try to run through just a very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   level each of them and then we'll step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   in and do a deeper dive through each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   them after that so there's now a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   iphone 7 it is a product red which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:38   some subset of this money is donated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   towards some aids research etc etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4180">TS</a>]

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01:09:47   they actually got clarification on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4187">TS</a>]

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01:09:54   being donated from china sales I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   it just doesn't brand it as such Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   interesting that makes you feel a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59   better there's a new there there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   couple of new iphone SE storage sizes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   far as anyone can tell the internals are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   otherwise identical but the SE no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:10   has the 16 gig option which means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   there are no more 16 gig iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   John siracusa how happy are you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   now I should have looked up the timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   so this like how long do we have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   from the first introduction of 16 gig to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   it disappearing it's taken long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   but I'm glad it's happened although and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   Apple always manages to frustrate me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   with the sizes because they changed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   now what is the SE comes in 32 and 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   sounds like boy 664 seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37   perfect size but nope nope you got a pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   32 which at this point it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   small 16 obviously 32 is great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   it's been pretty huge you know kudos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   getting rid of the 16 gigabyte finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4245">TS</a>]

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01:10:53   somebody i would say well 32 will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:54   fine right and 128 is probably too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   64 would be great but now they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   skipped that size so I mean that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   part of this ready like they want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4261">TS</a>]

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01:11:04   that you pay for the larger size but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   glad 32 is no longer ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   painfully way too small so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   goodness right there is a new 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:15   iPad everything that's old is new again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:18   we've gone from ipad ipad 2 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   like that i forget the timeline but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   ridiculous right to display to ipad air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4283">TS</a>]

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01:11:34   ipad 5th generation yeah remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37   new idea yes that was originally for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:40   ipad 3 yep they're just called the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4300">TS</a>]

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01:11:45   is the basic spec bump and price drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4305">TS</a>]

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01:11:50   wasn't seemingly so rare these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4310">TS</a>]

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01:11:55   a price increase or it just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58   just lingers on but this is like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   style it's like we make it faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4320">TS</a>]

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01:12:05   product so we can actually make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4325">TS</a>]

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01:12:10   the top of the top-of-the-line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4330">TS</a>]

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01:12:40   system on a chip is faster but not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   fast as it could be so it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4362">TS</a>]

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01:13:25   two speakers I like the like the older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   iPads it does not have the laminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31   screen like it like the when the pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:34   came out they came with this really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   beautiful laminated screen where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   no there's like a smaller or basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   zero screen gap like between the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   and the screen and all the all the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   know at the iphone did this a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:46   couple versions back to and the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   finally did it i think with the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   point seven pro if not the heir to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   anyway so this one has the old-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   screamer there's like that gap there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   like it's kind of a visible gap between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58   the glass and the screen so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59   there's things like that where it's cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   down and it lacks all the all the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   you know the quote ipad pro feature so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06   does not have pencil support it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07   have doesn't have a smart connector but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   for a lot of ipad buyers that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13   great I you know for 329 it's an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:18   value it compared to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   lineup whether you think it's an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   value compared to other tablets like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   from amazon or other android weirdos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   that's up to you it probably isn't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   oh well I don't think Apple cares but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   compared to other iPads it's a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33   value for the money and you know as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36   as you don't need any of those Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   features but I think if you're willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   to like drop 160 bucks on a keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   probably aren't that price sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43   about the purchase price of the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   iPad it's obviously being targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   strongly at educational buyers but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   think it'll also just be a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52   entry-level iPad I think that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:55   be you know they're probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   sell a lot of these things just like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   and the fact they that it has fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   modern internals is really nice sermon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   from a user perspective from a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   perspective it's really really nice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   mean to me the oh and also I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   point out Stephen Hackett wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12   wonderful article on 512 pixels citing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:16   the interesting marketing copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   differences between the way Apple brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   this new cheaper iPad versus the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   they brand that I'm point 7 pro and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   new cheap one is all about fun it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   you know casual fun and games and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   pros like this is your new supercomputer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   it's like totally different marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   guidelines but I think that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   they're targeting it the only major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:37   question I have about it is it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:41   leaves the ipad mini in a weird spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   because the they also discontinued the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   old mini so now there's only one iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   Mini available it's more expensive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   this it's it's the it's the four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   dollar mini for 128 gig and so this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:58   me kind of looks like this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   gradual way of maybe killing the mini I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   don't know but short like this this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06   9.7 is now I think better than better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:11   than that mini in most ways and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14   clearly their new entry-level ipad so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   don't i don't think the mini has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   of places to go anymore but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   I've never been a big fan of the mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   and if it's not going to be cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25   this than I don't know why anyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:28   be into it unless they really love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29   size but I mean in all fairness they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   still sell the ipod touch I'm gonna side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   by the way there is actually one 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   gigabyte model out the ipod touch which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   everyone forgets exists is thing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   even at all markets it exists it almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   doesn't count but hey you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:44   can get the ipod touch and you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45   it in 16 32 64 and 128 no gaps no 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:49   model but whatever so but for this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53   this ipad this I think is what one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   the things that we would be on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   at least would probably love it if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   did with this a laptop or desktop line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   which is take a middle-of-the-road model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   and make it cheaper and thicker like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:08   trade like I bring the price down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11   know make something that is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   make it more powerful bring the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   down by sacrificing like the nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   haves the laminated screen the couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   millimetres of thickness there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24   little bit of extra weight in exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25   for like in this class like do you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28   the fanciest most laminated screen do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   you need true tone wouldn't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   rather have a machine that is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   hundred bucks cheaper but also pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   darn fast and sacrifice like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   millimeter of thickness yes like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   what a middle the road mouth should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   it makes the expensive one look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   what am I getting for money you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:45   getting fancier crap right it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   actually faster it's nicer it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   got the laminated screen on it it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   the smarts connector or whatever you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   what you're paying for their but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   thing that gets bumped and doesn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   you know it's not like the iPad to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   stays the same and it's just like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   crappy and you feel like you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00   a terrible model um and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   they made this thicker like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:03   that's great that's exactly what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04   looking for please make those trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   in the middle models to make a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   that has better it gives people better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:10   value for the money and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   encouraged with us and I think someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   pointed out that the the ipad line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:15   now much simplified over its previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18   thing now we have to ipad pros one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   which is a little creaky we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:21   about later to iPad pro is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   going in the small one and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:24   two other iPads which are not pro is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   big one in the small and and it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:27   that the mini is called like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   mini 4 and i agree that it's a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:32   product in it with a rear price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33   maybe it will go away or maybe it itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   will get bumped in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:36   inevitable there will be a faster mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   for that is cheaper and that sacrifices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41   i don't know what you could sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42   what's left sacrificing on the mini i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   don't know but overall i think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:47   a good announcement and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   especially for education i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   need to drive it down farther for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   purpose is like kind of like the ipad 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:53   was in the end of its life when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   just so incredibly behind the times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   they could probably sell to education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   for much less money but anyway thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   so continuing with the summary and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   we'll come back and talk about each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:05   individually like i said there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08   that's not happening i was on board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   that plan but i did see i did like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13   fact that we still be cruise through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   the red iphone on the SE in appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   with appropriate speed we don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19   circle back to them it's red it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   cool it's nice yeah so i guess since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   we're talking about this now sorry Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25   oh my god the you deserve this for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:29   your follow-up complaints yeah yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   red iphone it's nice that it's product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   red this is you know the in you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   you mentioned about the charitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   donation part of this it is nice they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   finally for the very first time brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   that to their most profitable product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:45   the iphone like I guess maybe back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:46   the ipod days it might have been but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   anyway it's been a while you know you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   be able to get red stuff from Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53   know the right ipod touch has been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   for a while which by the way looks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56   like the new read the you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4796">TS</a>]

01:20:00   had like the product red watchbands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03   it's really nice to be able to finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:05   get on the iphone I hope you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   when basically before the before we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:10   the seven and there were some rumors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   new colors I believe I made some comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   back then about how like I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   for them to replace all of the like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   metal colors like the silver space grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21   gold rose gold I would like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   those all I think look stale to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25   like all four of those I would say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   fairly overdone and dated these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:31   and most of the products especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   iphone so to have new colors is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   very welcome I was you know this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38   think this phone looks great I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   it looks a little bit like the old ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:41   touch and a little too uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   degree and and i agree with with mike's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:46   complained that it should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   have a red circle around the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50   button because all the other phones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   metal color matching circles so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55   also have a black front i do not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   white-fronted phones I don't like white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00   fronts of the things but a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   do so like it if they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   make it in two colors like hey here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   red back in a black front and I read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   black and a white front like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   to pick one of them and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10   personal taste thing honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11   the white front looks really good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   would never want to own it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   reasons I've talked to him before by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:16   putting some reflective white surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17   Nexus screen just makes you screen look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   the engineer because it can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:20   compare to the sun shining off a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22   thing like I think it's a I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23   it and but it's totally personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   preference i think it looks I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   looks really it looks like a Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:28   phone looks like a piece of candy people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:31   say it in like a bad way like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:32   looks like the ipod touches the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   touches look cool I and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   because this is entirely a fashion thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   and a taste thing I I have no complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41   about the white front despite the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   that I would never ever ever buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44   because you know they make phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   some people are gonna like it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48   that's why they make them in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   colors all point of different calls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:50   know like this color pick a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:51   color and I love the fact that now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54   was a color that is not silver black or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57   some tint thereof like it is a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:58   color for a phone and last time you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00   that was like the 5c I guess which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   thought were also really fun well I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   would say jet black was and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   bold color of that scale like it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   it wasn't expected you can get any bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   color as long it's black ya know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:12   like it wasn't it wasn't like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   I would have predicted or expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   good and ended up being but i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   jet-black is is one of those like game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   changer colors that really did really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22   did feel new and awesome that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25   I do wish this was like you know jet red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28   like I wish it had the finish of the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   black like the tacky because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   increase grip and everything and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   think it might look a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35   modern because again i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   would like more like the 5c which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38   also very glossy and colored yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   look you know more saturated and newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42   and you know thinner and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   I think that would help but not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   like an old ipod touch but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   this is overall very nice looking phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   the the timing is interesting of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:53   being mid-cycle this is about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   about when they launched the the SE last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58   year right this is you know the cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   take on this is this is a nice way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   them to boost sales in a very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   traditionally quarter you know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   a nice way for them to boost sales on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08   their most profitable product line i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   wish i did this more often like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   would complain if they if they treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13   the phone back like watchband it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   go out the year every couple months came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   out with different colors of phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:18   because it i mean it's you know it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   them the freedom to have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   different ideas and honestly does get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   people more excited because phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25   very much faster and accessories and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28   you can come up with different colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:29   and different parts of the year people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   like it does renew your interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   getting the phones especially if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   the phones and you're like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   if I need a new phone I'm not sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   like all these new colors especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   it the same as last year where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   gold rose gold and maybe you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   the jet black or whatever if you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   you could wait three months and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45   would be like you know a teal one or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   purple one or a yellow one I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   still see five Cs that are white now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50   like that's a cool looking phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   it you know if it's fashion and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:56   watch is certainly are and the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:57   at this point too by all means do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59   as many times as you want Apple I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   it's think it's great yeah also by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   way I think a jet white phone like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04   the same finish but in white that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   look amazing oh yeah but yeah how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   you allowed to say that and I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   here quiet you're thinking it's a jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13   white phone with a black front on it tho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14   i guess but that's true well i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17   that would look better yeah i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:18   you i think the red with the white front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   i think that does look better even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:21   though i agree also that i wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23   the white front but i think a black back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   or I mean a white bag I think would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   look good with a black front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   anyway there's a storm trooper phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   yeah exactly anyway uh Michael Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34   and I want to wait found that god you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   killing me as big as it's a pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   shape so it does look good in white oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40   oh my god what do I do to deserve this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:44   just try to keep you two in lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:45   deserve that's just that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   foundational theory of white car is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   we not gone over this no we have we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51   think we started with this I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:54   did yeah so anyway I hope I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   know I would just love to see more color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00   and apples line in general so angry so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:03   hope they keep this up you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   great I don't really I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   you know go trade in my you know still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   perfectly fine working iphone 7 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12   halfway through its cycle for this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   if I were buying new today I'd seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   consider it although I Sultanate Lee I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   still want the grip of the jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   finish so i would probably slow side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   against it but give me jet red and jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:25   white and we'll talk but anyway i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   this fall when presumably new iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:31   come out again all those it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   say with that but when things will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:34   out but presumably this fall i hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:38   continue with even with the new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   to offer cool new colors yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43   agree with that I really liked the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   at this I really do wish it was a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   front there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   white perhaps being a better match but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52   the back of this does look awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:55   they've also released a couple of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58   colors for iphone cases and i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:01   was sapphire on screen anyway looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03   really nice haven't seen it in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   and they've also released a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06   watch bands which largely matched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:10   case colors they've also started selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:13   nike+ bands separately which if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:16   something that is for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19   visually extremely loud power to you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22   guess and now you can buy the band as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   sport band having all those holes in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   is really nice for ventilation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   the regular support band is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   sweaty because it just you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   solid surface that does not breathe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   all so the nike bands actually are nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:35   for sport use for any kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   if you're going to be hot and sweaty if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   they are way nicer because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   those holes my wife picked that when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:42   bought her watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:43   she bought the nike plus one and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   in part because of the way she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46   get like the neon one but the holes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   she's she likes it yeah like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   does look like some kind of crazy alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   creature but it is highly functional but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:56   anyway one more thing before we get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   the phone the red phone one at one angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:00   I think might be interesting to consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01   or I guess we'll see is like so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:05   two there's two cynical takes and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06   one I mentioned you know to boost sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   in a slow quarter the second is will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:12   they release a product red phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   the charitable donation portion of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   profits during the peak season in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   holidays like will will the will they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:21   release it on day one basically for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   next phone because that could cost them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25   more money in donations that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:28   of thing that I hope they would say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:29   know it's worth it and knowing Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   I think they probably would he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33   Jim cook he cares a lot about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:36   charitable causes and things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   good for the world and for people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:39   health and everything else so I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   him saying you know what screw it we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   take the hit but it's so much money at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:46   that scale at during the peak order that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   it's it might be a tricky balance it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:52   back in the day they they did introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:54   several iPods at the time when the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   was still very important product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   when a new line came out he would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   with the product red one like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   no delay like what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02   here are the new ipod nanos and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04   get by these five colors plus product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   red that happened routinely i know is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07   fought plot of the red ones because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   were cool neighbor red so i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   think they'll do it i think it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14   question of like manufacturing ramps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   how many different colors they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   handle and being able to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   multiple skews and the color variant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   like we always have problems with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23   like an era how well they try to predict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26   what the color mix will be there always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27   off by a little bit and it scales they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:28   do it makes you frustrated they got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:30   look for a jet black one or remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:32   when people couldn't find the gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:33   phones for the very first gold one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   difficult so I feel like if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:36   do it it will mostly be for inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:39   control reasons clips for iOS a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:42   forthcoming app that will how are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:46   pitching this it will basically let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:49   make little videos and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:53   apple.com / clips what a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:56   show notes it's like snapchat for olds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57   it's not but it's not like snapshot know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   this too many people who have who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:03   heard from Apple about this topic this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   appears to be surprisingly to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:08   we were all looking at the announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:09   yesterday surprisingly perhaps the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:11   important announcement from Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   perspective of all the things we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:14   listed even though it is software not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16   hardware and even though it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   great you made an app that we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:21   videos with unlike snapchat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   Instagram and all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   applications that people use to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:26   videos of themselves and put words over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:28   those videos and six stickers on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   faces and do all the other stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   they do this is not a ping version 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:35   point 0 this is not an apple social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36   network this is not a way for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   share videos for people this is a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   production tool this is a way for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   make impressive looking videos that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:45   then shove on to all those social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   networks run by companies that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   Apple and it's leveraging Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51   strengths we know how to make nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   looking video transition effects we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   how to take video and incorporate other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:57   elements in the video we know how to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   you somehow edit video with your fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:01   on this tiny little phone screen we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5401">TS</a>]

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01:30:07   looked a hundred times better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   family movies they were cut together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:11   edited on someone's mini DV camcorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:14   like literally on the camcorder like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   can you use your mac to do it you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5416">TS</a>]

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01:30:19   and things that are previously only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20   available and professional software you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5420">TS</a>]

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01:30:23   you just use one of the stinkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:24   templates or keynote made you let people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   make tasteful presentations it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   look like they were made in PowerPoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29   because they weren't like just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:30   providing good tools and templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32   that's what this seems to be a very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:34   done application for video production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:37   whose output is targeting all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:41   services that people use to share video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:42   of themselves yeah I think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:45   really good like I this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:48   trying to tie together like three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   four different worlds none of which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:53   really understand or participate in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   much so it's hard for me to have a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57   take on how it will do but how it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:59   on this page it looks good and I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   to play with it you do participate in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:04   because i watch videos of you on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:05   services often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06   taken by your wife I mean you do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:09   periscope a lot that is one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:10   services I know it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:11   pre-produced thing where you put stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:13   on but it is like hey I want to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   some spur-of-the-moment video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   immediately gets shared with people onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:19   a social network type of thing and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:22   is perhaps the least invasive where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   they're not putting little stickers over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   your head or writing words on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   but you know for Instagram I follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:29   people who post daily Instagram stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:32   or whatever they're called where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:33   just a series of small clips with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   text occasionally over it or some audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:38   and I got to tell you of all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   things that look at they look pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:41   rough and if someone could use in it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:43   know it's a question of like do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:44   care enough about the quality to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   an external app and like you know hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   the share button and share the Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:49   versus doing it from within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:50   instagram app but this this should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53   Apple strength in the same way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   movie was a you know demonstrated Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:57   strengthened back in the day I photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   used to less now they make good software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:03   for dealing with media and they're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   to do it even on the phone to leverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:08   all the hardware they have there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   makes it like a you know a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11   magical video production studio to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   clever wit and was one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   they were saying there was clever says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:16   it is facial recognition to know who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:17   in the video matches up with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   contact photos to say oh it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   in this video of these three people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   you want to share with them here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:24   their faces it does dictation for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   text so you don't have to type it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:27   supposedly like when you dictate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   text if you dictate the test the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   with a certain cadence it will appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   the screen with that cadence so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:36   you know basically by speaking in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:37   certain manner make text appear in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:41   that emphasizes the point of your video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43   as opposed to trying to time that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44   like a bunch of curves you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   could be like lots and lots of clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:48   touches so what regular people do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50   that are much more interesting I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:51   it will probably create a middle-tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:54   class of produced videos in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:57   that they were like professional people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59   producing vines presumably using like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   don't know if I even let you do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:02   some it you know for other other types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04   of services where it's clear that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   is a group of people using tools way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   more sophisticated than our available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10   the social services native app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12   nevertheless share that video on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   app so like they would make a video like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15   an final cut basically with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   cool effects and everything and trim it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:18   down and share it on a social network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20   the same way that I take pictures with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21   my fancy camera and put them Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   and some people get cranky because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24   it's only supposed to be pictures you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25   take with your phone like that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26   I'm using Instagram I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   there are people who are sharing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:30   through social services that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32   with very complicated tools but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   everyone can do that so this is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35   in-between thing you have you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:38   the built-in tools for the sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   services and make an okay video you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   one step back which is just a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   application that's also on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:44   and still pretty darn easy to use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   you get a nicer result and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   final one is you know use Final Cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:49   pro to spend a week making this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:51   video that you hope will go viral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52   you know dude do it anyway there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:56   there's a video on the apple.com / clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:00   and the the section is called say it see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:03   it and there's a little video of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:04   gentleman who is saying how to tie a bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   tie and you see the words pop on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   just like you were describing John it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09   looks really clever I don't I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   snapchat account I only ever use it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:15   send or receive pictures with Aaron and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:18   Declan so often times when he wakes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:19   from nap she'll go in there and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21   take a goofy picture with one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:22   goofy filters and I gotta say it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   actually quite delightful I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   the faintest idea how to use the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   features of snapchat that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   supposed to be using because I'm old I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   do like Instagram stories I don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   myself doing it very often because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   day is usually pretty boring but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   they're super cool and I like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   features they've added and so this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   I think Marco I know you were being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45   snarky but I think you're right to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47   degree to a small degree I do think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49   is snapchat for old people but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   really amped about this I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:52   going to be super neat to play with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   it may be that i play with it twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55   never use it again but i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:58   this is apple firing on all cylinders in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:01   theory anyway we'll see what it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:02   it's released but it's embracing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:05   stuff they're good at just like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06   said in and ignoring the stuff they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   not so rather than making another paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09   they're just using this to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   content and then pushing it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:13   places where you want that content to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:15   which is awesome and a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17   nice little touches on here like the oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   you have Aaron in this video do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21   to send it to early this all sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   really really cool and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:24   looking forward to playing with it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:26   not entirely sure why it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28   today like i'm not sure what that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30   buys them because it's almost done I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33   guess but Lexi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:34   that's the thing though like like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:35   they did all these announcements via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:38   this barrage of press releases but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:41   these announcements were over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:43   throughout the entire day yesterday when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:44   they're getting all this press you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   can't pre-order the red iphone you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48   can't pre-order the new cheap ipad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:51   can't download the clips app or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:54   they didn't even do like the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   notify me thing like they did from Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:58   run like there's nothing we can do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:00   this like we're interested now give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   way to turn that into something for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   later Apple but no instead we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07   to try to remember about these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09   and then when they are available in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:12   know a week or three then go get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14   then but like why why couldn't they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:18   anything what like why do they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   announce this yesterday when none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22   this stuff is even ready to pre-order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   exactly no they're trying to be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   to space it out you know like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   other announcements they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:29   push it up against them like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:32   really because I think the Apple line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   and this is that they're not the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:38   products that there's going to be a mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   rush for people to get like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:42   really matter when I tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:43   clips being a thing because it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   to be like a slow burn even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   not even available it requires I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:48   10.3 actually so no one's gotten it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51   until iOS emily three comes out and 10.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:52   is not coming out until you next month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:54   sometime probably but it's not this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:57   be the iphone you could argue like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59   could be a potential rush for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:00   you know i don't know why they all came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   together i don't know why they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03   not available but i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05   matters that much because for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07   type of products it's not the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:09   thing where you have to strike while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:10   iron is hot and build up a frenzy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   activity is just going to be cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13   stuff that Apple's coming out with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15   so you know here it is it'll be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17   it'll be here before you know it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18   it's not a big deal like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   anybody is it has money burning a hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:23   in their pocket for that new iPad even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25   though it is better than the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:26   just lets you know if you were thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27   ab item on maybe wait a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   for the application it'll be coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:32   soon but it requires the new OS and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34   know I I you can question why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:37   they wait until like one of the items is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   available and like it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   because that one's all that one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:42   available the other ones aren't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:43   you can't really make try to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   all simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:46   particularly mind that they they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:49   about it ahead of time especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:50   like there is something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51   having all the sights talk about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   can't get this net but here's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:55   exclusive look like you know here here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57   is it was the red iphone that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5877">TS</a>]

01:37:59   get your hands on and here is the clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:00   app that if anybody has a Clips app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03   won't be out until 10.3 that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   way to build hype so who knows I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:08   think anyone even has it i mean like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:09   reviewers we at least know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11   reviewers seem to have read iphones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:14   i don't think i haven't heard anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:15   mentioned that they have eclipse anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17   it doesn't matter although the clips out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:18   by the way getting back to that string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:19   of playing to their strengths oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:21   more negative tech I'm playing To Your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23   Strengths is it is a further emphasis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:26   your weakness because like it if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:28   to pick who do you want to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30   company that is really good in making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   like a high-quality clever nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34   interface powerful application it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   advantage of your phone's hardware to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:37   make cool videos or the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39   owns the social network where all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   videos will be posted whether it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:42   Instagram or snapchat or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44   think Apple would trade in a second to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:46   be the the company that controls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:49   social networks where that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51   that's there's more value in being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   place where people post all their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:54   than there is in making the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   that lets people post their stuff and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:59   like when i gave the hierarchy before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01   was that most people are going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:02   the app a second tier is much fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:05   people who care more about quality will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:07   use this thing and then a third tier is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   even fewer people use professional tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10   so they're not even getting the fat part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12   of that market right i think if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14   could choose they would say boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16   really wish we were instagram or boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17   really wish we were snapchat or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   but they aren't and they can't be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   they're bad at that stuff so at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23   least this is always talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:24   people who sell apples good at software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:27   and they make good interfaces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28   dimensions like are they what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30   application have been made recently that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:31   shows that Apple actually knows how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:32   make good applications get workflows an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34   example and a phenomenal application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:35   like we get to the point where I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   like the ABA winners I think workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:38   one and a da da da winners are like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:41   those applications are better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43   what's Apple is doing whereas this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:44   like a return to form or Apple saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46   the ABA sr4 a cup for people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:49   software that we feel like exemplifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   the ideals and the api's that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53   promoting or whatever then we at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55   are interested in and we at apple also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/5995">TS</a>]

01:40:00   want to make applications of that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:01   and for a long time it seemed like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   was no longer able to make really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   applications consistently and clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:09   looks like a modern version of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11   great application and rather than being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13   a Mac application or like a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:14   application it's like this is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:17   application to do a simple thing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:18   was like one of the thing then was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19   use of WC so you want to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:21   application that does video those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   make videos for social services what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   kind of features could you add to it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   you took advantage of all our api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   could you make a really clever interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:30   and use all our you know new systems for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   laying out the UI and use everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:35   learn from like it looks like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38   good third-party application which at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   this point is a high compliment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:42   something that Apple puts out yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:47   looking forward to trying this and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:48   knows that like i said if i'll ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:49   it but i'm really excited about yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:51   the application itself like I'm less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:53   concerned about like you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:54   maybe no one will ever use it but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   excited to see Apple making really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:59   iOS applications again I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:00   applications that even third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02   developers say that's a good I osf in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04   the same way we all say that about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:05   know workflow or whatever that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:07   what's encouraging to me about there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:08   not the specifics of like always he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10   an appt to chair video or whatever so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12   did briefly want to address the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:15   thing that happened when all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17   announcements dropped which is a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19   of people got really mad at things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21   weren't announced and I was one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:24   you know as I mentioned earlier I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26   hoping for a inch macbook update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:29   didn't happen yep many people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:32   waiting for imac updates that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:34   supposed to happen last fall didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36   happen lots of people expected the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:40   point seven and twelve point nine inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   iPad pros to be updated because the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:45   point seven is due now the 12.9 assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48   it has the same cycle as the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:50   is now past due by about half a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:52   so a lot of people are mad you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54   and there was the rumored 10.5 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57   and I think John Gruber's take on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:58   on daring fireball is probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00   which is like it probably never made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02   sense to launch that in the spring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   probably see that sounds more like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:07   know let the iphone debut the new design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09   language and then release the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:10   afterwards kind of thing or do them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   it wants to be a big bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   you know or so but I get it also things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   make more sense than what what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:18   predicted which was like you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:20   get 20 new iPhones in mar 22 iPads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:22   March and they're gonna be weird sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24   that aren't consistent with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:25   and one of them is going to be amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26   it's like really it's not know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   never sounded right and we keep hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   rumblings to about major iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33   enhancements in iPad productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35   multitasking things like that major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   enhancements that were originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   supposed to be coming out about now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   iOS 10.3 and that we've heard recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:44   that those have been delayed until iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:47   11 presumably in the fall so if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:50   the case it also might make sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   hold back this new 10 and a half inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54   crazy awesome iPad pro and maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:57   update to the 12.9 as well that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:59   to happen to hold those back until like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:02   whatever september-october event is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:05   public launch of iOS 11 that's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07   what they do like you know though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09   they will show us all at WTC in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:12   summertime like the core features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:13   then when it when it comes time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15   launch day for that OS in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:17   september-october event there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:19   new hardware that makes it even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:21   usually as an iphone event but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:22   as John just said it could be both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:25   that makes sense but I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:27   why people were so mad and still are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:29   mad is that you know traditionally at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:33   most Apple products have been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35   predictable schedule you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37   ipad and iphone is about one year max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:40   were about one year to maybe 18 months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43   for most families we complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:45   Mac Pro and people complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:47   mac mini those have honestly always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   on ridiculous schedules usually not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51   ridiculous but but like you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   not new for those families but like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:54   most mammals products you could pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56   much extrapolate based on their previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58   release schedules okay this one will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00   out in about a year this will be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:01   in about a year and a half etc and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03   even even if Apple has said nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:06   about future products which is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08   the case you you as like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:10   waiting for an updated like if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:12   you want to buy an imac today and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:15   do any research at all which many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:17   do you know people people in the geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:20   sphere often think that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21   quote normal people just walk into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   apple store just buy whatever's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24   and they don't do any research but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26   that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:27   a lot of people do research and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:28   more people than we give credit for do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:31   the kind of research that can tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33   like you know I should probably wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34   not by this yet because the new ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36   becoming soon anyway so when the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   that you're waiting for is past due for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:42   an expected update every announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:45   that Apple makes every event they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47   every new product release that passes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49   that you don't get the thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51   waiting for that feels like a delay even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54   though they never said they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:55   release it because it isn't officially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:58   delay because they never announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6298">TS</a>]

01:44:59   but it feels like you were told this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:03   you might even been told that by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   experts by the apple press by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:07   commentators who you know the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:10   the year they tell you oh you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12   impatient just wait until wdc or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:16   fall event or the spring event like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:18   always I'll just wait till the next X it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:20   just keep waiting keep waiting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22   what you're told when you look into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:23   kind of stuff and so when that event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   comes and goes and you still don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27   your update that you thought was do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:30   feels like something was taken away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31   you it feels like it was delayed even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32   though Apple never never officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34   promised it and when there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:37   couple of products that are on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:38   delays like the mac pro in the mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:40   well those are always on these delays I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   think that's no surprise but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:45   know as we mentioned in past shows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:47   does seem like there's more of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:48   product lines than usual right now 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:51   was an especially bad year we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54   you know at least the laptops recovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   from that now that was a big one but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58   know there's still some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6358">TS</a>]

01:45:59   products like the 12 point on a tripod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00   that was kind of sitting around waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:01   for an update and you know as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:04   earlier I think the new reality is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:07   there is no apple product line except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:11   probably the iphone that is on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   schedule anymore every other one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:18   could they could have updated at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:19   year for the last five years and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:20   well now it's on a two-year cycle now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   it's on an 18-month cycle what like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:25   can't depend on that that way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:27   predicting long schedules anymore like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29   whatever interval they've been on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   past is now totally irrelevant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:34   possibly every product but if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:36   probably not the iphone but but probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:39   everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:40   so there are some speculation there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   might still be like an April event there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:45   was like on the WTC wall of text that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:49   was on the big walls downstairs there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:51   was like Hello April is at April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:52   eighteenth what was the event was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:54   date on that deal I don't remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   know what you're talking about but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57   don't remember somewhere on the teens i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59   think in april that was like printed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01   there as a possible easter egg so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03   might still be in april event maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05   they're going to be at the new Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:06   Jobs theater on on the new apple campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:09   who knows but if I had to bet money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:12   it i would guess they probably aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:14   done announcing things for the spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   yet because the other thing is like WTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:19   in recent years has really been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:21   software-only event for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:23   there's usually there's so much to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:26   about during that keynote because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:28   is usually so many changes to iOS watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:32   OS TVO as like there's so much to cram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:35   in there that they have they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37   recent years been minimizing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39   eliminating any kind of hardware release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41   talk from that keynote and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43   don't tend to do any other events in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:44   summertime besides that one because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:46   know everyone's on vacation in july and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:47   august and everything so so i'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:49   if they have anything more to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:52   before September we're probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:55   hardware and product wise not software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57   wise we're probably going to still hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59   about it maybe you know maybe in April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00   we'll see if I had to bet whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:03   they would be an event in April right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:04   now I'd say probably yes but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:07   bet Casey five bucks on it you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:10   funny you bring all this up I was um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12   was thinking about this earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14   and we've also gotten a couple emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16   and I don't have them in front of me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18   somebody wrote in saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:21   listing this scenario i don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:23   five years ago and like snow leopard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:25   about to come out or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:27   and you know hey here's the scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28   everyone was upset about a b c d e f and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:31   g we all thought the world was ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:32   all the pundits all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:34   podcasters everyone thought the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36   was ending turns out it really wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:37   that bad and yet i left yesterday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:41   didn't go anywhere but you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   end of yesterday I felt like me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45   don't know if I was too excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:48   all this like I knew I that Clips looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50   kind of cool but the rest of it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51   didn't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   and the first constructive thought I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:56   was well it's just that these weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   for me these announcements weren't for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:00   me does make them bad and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:01   reflecting on them now today with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03   guys they're pretty good truth be told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:06   but they weren't for me and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08   specifically I don't have my damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:09   adorable refresh but that's okay but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:15   started thinking you know why is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:17   I feel disappointed about this in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:22   that I don't think i would have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:23   years back and I think a lot of it marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:27   was what you said was that there was a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   pretty reliable cadence to how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31   release stuff up until fairly recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:33   and that's not quite so reliable anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:37   which on the surface I should be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:39   about because it means things are less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:42   predictable and more exciting but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:45   not that excited about it because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6585">TS</a>]

01:49:47   not always excited about levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:50   releasing any more I am always excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:53   about new iPhones because every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:54   time I think there's been an improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:56   but everything else that's hit or miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58   right like I've not used to touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:00   for more than a couple of minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02   this day but I'm not overwhelmingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   amped to go get myself one and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:08   just but I've been trying and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:09   come to any great conclusions but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11   trying to figure out you know why am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:12   less excited about late announcements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:15   late than I have been in the past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:17   the only other thing I can come to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19   that I feel like there was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:22   something in every single product that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:25   could be like holy hell that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:27   awesome and so maybe a product that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   didn't really care about so as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:30   example the twelve point nine inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:33   pro I don't have any desire for that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:36   my life but I can see cool things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:38   it and similarly like the smart keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6638">TS</a>]

01:50:40   for both sizes that's cool and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43   fairly recent in fairness but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:47   know I just I feel like in years past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:48   everything had something really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:51   about it maybe I'm just becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53   cynical old man maybe that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55   but I'm just less excited about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:57   think a lot of that is the cadence some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6657">TS</a>]

01:50:59   of that is that these products just may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:02   not be for me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:04   or and and maybe I just gotta get okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:07   with that you know what still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:10   possibly for you what the macbook escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13   man it's a really good computer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:16   asked me a few weeks yeah I'll ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:19   in 15 days after the lag if it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:22   real computer I might have a macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24   escape to sell you yeah funny about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:28   people being angry about this like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30   mean I think it's what we talked about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:33   lot a lot of the other announcements for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:34   it's like it is not so much about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:36   announced is just like sort of simmering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38   desire / resentment for things out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:41   aren't getting updated and so every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43   something happens it does include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:44   thing you want just makes you angry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:46   everyone knew this was going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:48   there was no event where people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:49   going out to sit in a room to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51   someone talk this was a press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:52   only thing right it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:54   like they they had everyone come out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56   a location you know so everyone knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58   when when it's a press release only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6718">TS</a>]

01:51:59   thing its lesser stuff the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:02   they were to release a new 10.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:04   iPad you know with an entirely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06   physical design without calling a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08   of press to come to a room and sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11   and get a presentation like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:14   you know the the amount of ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:18   surrounding the announcements matches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:21   the the magnitude of the announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23   so this is going to be hey it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25   going to be a bunch of press releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:26   and some journalists will get briefed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28   various locations but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:30   gathering everybody into a room we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:31   not doing a live Sheeran you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33   the caliber of the stuff that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34   be there so being disappointed that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37   didn't even get like a macbook refresh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:38   mean it's conceivable that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40   have got a macbook refresh with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:41   this caliber of announcement but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:44   don't think is that it doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:45   reset like are now now it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:48   a delay because they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:49   have a vent right after this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51   it's entirely conceivable that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:52   could have here's the press release only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54   stuff and then here is an event where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56   ever we actually invite people out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:58   the near future that it doesn't push any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00   future announcements out at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02   very often they have the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:04   they dump a bunch of pre-announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6784">TS</a>]

01:53:06   and press releases sometimes they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:08   like the day before like the real event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6788">TS</a>]

01:53:10   where actual you know people sit in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:11   room and get it get a little song and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:13   dance from Apple right so I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:16   understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:17   the idea that like every time apple says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19   anything and it doesn't include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:20   thing that you think should be coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22   that it's painful but the actual things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:27   that were announced here all seemed fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:28   and I actually don't think it pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:30   anything back it doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:32   there's an imminent announcement or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:33   anything you could still be cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:34   the fact that the ipad pro does need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:37   update and hasn't got one and when is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39   going to come and if it doesn't come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:40   April does that mean I have to wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:41   the beauty like you can continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:42   sad about that but honestly like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:46   it's just people getting over the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6826">TS</a>]

01:53:47   that the ipad pro might not be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:50   every time there are obvious technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:52   upgrades to it like you would think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:53   well surely the big iPad pro will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55   the truth on screen out of the small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:56   has it and you wait and wait and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58   but you know talk to my pro people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:01   waiting like you're cranky because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:02   you're like it's one year come on chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04   chopping like one year haha so young so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06   young lease your product will still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:09   released thanks to our three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:11   this week hello fresh Squarespace and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:14   fracture and we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:16   now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:22   mean to begin as it was accidental oh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:27   was accidental John didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:31   money research Marco and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:34   let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:35   cuz it was accidental it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6875">TS</a>]

01:54:39   and you can find the show notes at ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:43   FM I live for into twitter you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:49   follow them at cas eyl ISS so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:55   Casey list and a osseo a RM Angie Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6895">TS</a>]

01:55:00   are men and I are a c-usa Syracuse we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:20   have important after show facts about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22   PFS I know you guys are dying for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24   exciting after-show on that my god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26   so ready what mailing list is on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29   on one of apples one of apple's mailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:33   lists people complaining about bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:35   being closed about a PFS on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37   obviously because it's you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:38   officially for the mac actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:41   still beta for iOS to anyway the bug was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6941">TS</a>]

01:55:44   closed with this explanation iosh best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:47   normalization and unicode names i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:50   oh Sh of us normalized unicode names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:52   which was we know like they folded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:54   all into a particular normalization of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:55   their thing and so that's why you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:56   you no matter how you enter the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58   name it would all fold it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59   particular form so you can only have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:00   file name cafe with an e an accent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:03   the end no matter how you encode it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:05   as you can you can write that in 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:06   different ways in your code with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:07   combining characters and stuff a PFS now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10   treats all files as a bag of bytes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:12   iOS and so they closed it as closing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:15   bug report so if you use apple's api's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:18   you don't care about this because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19   does all that sort of normalization for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:21   you but if you use the direct file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:22   system API you like the bsd you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24   unix layer it is a PFS behaves like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:28   a plain old UNIX file system which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:30   basically give him a buffer full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:33   bytes and I will write that to the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:35   of the file system that says it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:36   supposed to hold the file name and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38   that's it so if you want to write one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:41   file name in utf-32 and one file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:45   and a ski and one file name in utf-8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:48   normalization I'm just a filesystem man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7008">TS</a>]

01:56:51   you just gave me a sequence of bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:52   when you ask me later what the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:54   this file is i'm going to give you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7014">TS</a>]

01:56:55   sequence of bytes back i hope you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:56   what encoding it's in good luck which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7016">TS</a>]

01:56:59   exactly how i believe linus torvalds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7019">TS</a>]

01:57:02   linux fame really wished hfs+ behaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:05   because he hated the fact that it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:06   normalization he said just just take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7026">TS</a>]

01:57:08   bytes that I give you and stick them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7028">TS</a>]

01:57:09   your file system and that is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:12   how a PFS works and I felt the bog on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:14   this as well to say look I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:15   this is a bug or feature but hfs+ dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7035">TS</a>]

01:57:19   hit this way and your new replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:21   behaves that way and it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7041">TS</a>]

01:57:22   could possibly cause something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24   compatibilities down the line so is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:27   something you intended to do or what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:29   I don't remember what the status of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:30   bug is but this this bug report of if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:32   is to be believed that this radar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:34   was close is like on iOS anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7054">TS</a>]

01:57:37   totally what we meant it's now just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:39   Bagel Bites user api's you'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:42   but it certainly simplifies the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:44   system because thousands of no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:47   needs to be concerned about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:48   heck is in the the file names it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:51   it's just a big data buffer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:53   everything else is handled it at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:54   higher level and arguably that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:56   cleaner layering but it is definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58   definite break with how it was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7078">TS</a>]

01:57:59   before so be careful out there so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:06   you excited for a PFS like i know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:08   talked about this in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:09   sitting here now have you been it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:11   like you're keeping up with it keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:12   up with it at least a little bit I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:15   I'm excited for it I'm a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17   worried about compatibility things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:18   because of this encoding issue and I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20   little bit worried about bugs and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:22   but I bought a new fastest then and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7102">TS</a>]

01:58:23   getting one and you know I'm still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:26   still think about it and get sad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:27   the the lack of data integrity features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:29   and stuff like that but there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:31   enough new interesting features that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:33   that I'm still excited for it i just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7113">TS</a>]

01:58:34   worry about you know maybe i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37   like I should really upgrade my synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:39   to btrfs which it now actually supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:42   with the new thing but I don't know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:44   way to do it in place and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7124">TS</a>]

01:58:45   have any place to copy all this data off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:46   to and put it back on except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:48   network and so anyway I would like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:51   my backups at least were someplace where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:54   I knew that they were not bit rotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:55   I'll just continue to have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:58   bury my head in the sand about the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7138">TS</a>]

01:58:59   of the data I'm actual max because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:01   that's not self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7141">TS</a>]

01:59:02   is not helping me there hi titles uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:05   what is it that you and I suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:07   simultaneously Oh Christmas phone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:09   that was that yeah that's it what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:11   the shoelace thing I've already lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7151">TS</a>]

01:59:12   thread on the what was the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15   thread hey what was the analogy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:17   show I was the macbook pro like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7157">TS</a>]

01:59:18   had to reformat it right okay yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:20   if you listen to analog John you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:23   know the story of I know the shul a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7163">TS</a>]

01:59:24   story I've heard that episode stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:26   I've heard that episode you can jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:29   anytime John you don't have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:31   back catalog everyone knows the shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:32   story and and if you had and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:35   didn't hear in an analog in here Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:36   talk about it on eight thousand other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:37   episodes of other shows so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7177">TS</a>]

01:59:39   you can avoid the shoelace but he told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7179">TS</a>]

01:59:40   the best with me dammit I know I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42   I heard it first there I still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:44   Christmas phone although span across my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7184">TS</a>]

01:59:46   leg gap actually starting to edge that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:47   don't like them either like gap what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:50   the true light shoelace is rising this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:52   is my shoelaces rising and oh boo just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:55   going to hear Mike talk about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57   awesome e is for inspiring the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:57   awesome e is for inspiring the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7197">TS</a>]

02:00:00   and I don't want to deal with that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01   he is he is that awesome because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:03   was an amazing story we don't need but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7203">TS</a>]

02:00:04   we don't need to tell him that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:06   need to give him that moment what is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:08   doing with the shoelaces that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7208">TS</a>]

02:00:09   breaking that's my real question I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12   remember the last time I had a shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:13   break like is he being very rough with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15   them is he rubbing his shoe against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:16   something there fraying like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7216">TS</a>]

02:00:18   shoelaces break maybe the style in Great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:20   Britain is to have really tightly laced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7220">TS</a>]

02:00:22   shoes like to really tighten them up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24   know this is very thin I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:25   it's it's a suspicious story my shoelace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7225">TS</a>]

02:00:29   just broke as I pulled really partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31   snap oh I can't I have to put my job now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:33   hey should check to check his lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7233">TS</a>]

02:00:39   cable how are they doing like that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:43   like if I if I replace this lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45   cable I'm I'll just use this iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:48   for another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTa0nJs/7248">TS</a>]