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211: Hardware Mind Virus

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► zeon gold that's really the name of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► thing it's pretty I'm pro gold yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► extreme special edition I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07 ◼   ► they're relieved since Kyle AKP I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► care what they call it but that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► a stupid name 18 cars Zeon gold are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/10">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► gonna make a gold mac pro that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► amazing there could even be an addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► that's solid gold John if the next Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/20">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► Pro is only available in rose gold at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► like actual rose gold not like pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► aluminum the actual rose gold that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► probably raise the price by $15,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► would you buy that mac pro nope can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► swing it what if I had a gaming video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► card in it yeah still no that's cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/39">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► Marco no $15,000 computers sorry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► well I mean at the rate that you replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► them that actually isn't that ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► like how many cars have you had during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► the time you've had this mac pro well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► got a lot more value out of the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► right so uh we should start with follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► up as we always do Tyler la cloak lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/61">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► has some a PFS boot experiments that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► has performed would you like to tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► about that mr. filesystems he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► person who last week tweeted about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/72">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► booting a mac off of a PFS and we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► about it and follow up and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► points that I made during that segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► was that he had posted a screenshot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► the gate info window in the finder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► the volume that he booted from and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/89">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► at a PFS case insensitive and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► thought that meant was that the a BFS on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/93">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► his volume that he booted off was case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► insensitive and therefore all the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► problems that we discussed about trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► to run Mac OS and its application like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► sense of how systems wouldn't apply I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► should have looked a little bit farther [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► down his tweet timeline because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► apparently he subsequently tweeted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► finder and other utilities are confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► about whether the volume is case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► insensitive or not rest assured it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► case sensitive so it's kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► that the get info window says case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► insensitive but he tell me no no there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► a pas all you ms case sensitive so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► he's doing weird stuff on and unreleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► you know betta everything so still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► doesn't tell us what the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/134">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► incarnation of this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► whether it's at a point release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► Sierra or whether to the next major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► version of Mac OS but that's super weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► that the finer thinks is case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► insensitive but knows that it's a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► but that the actual volume is case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/145">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► sensitive so oh well whew riveting it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► is that this is this will be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► important even though it seems esoteric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► as the follow-up we had a couple well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► last week or whatever but your programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► won't work if its case sensitive like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► they won't work for some period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► total developers update them it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► make you sad so better hope they sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► this out fair enough then we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► little bit of talk about the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► cesspools in Silicon Valley is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► redundant anyway um Tesla apparently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► having some problems with harassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► surprise surprise there's an article in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► The Guardian which i haven't had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► chance to read what i intend to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► tomorrow female engineers sues Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► describing a culture of quote pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► harassment quote you don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► technology and car company that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► surprising yeah I put that in there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► because the not so much about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► specific story which this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► interesting in that it's a current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► employee suing the company so that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► know another twist in this but just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► reinforce the idea that we touched on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► last week about uber that although overs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► is surely an extremely egregious example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► that this problem is not isolated to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► single company to a single person to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► single bad animal I think it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► isolated to a single industry although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► you know in the circles are traveling we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► tend to see tech things it is everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► and when one of these stories comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► what it does is it makes the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► stories come to the surface you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► because it's you know a media trend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► people feel more emboldened to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► forward or people want to report on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► more and they come in cycles but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► it's everywhere and if you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► another example there you go yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► then we have an entry in the hidden the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► show notes to her or not to burr and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► presume that this is because a handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► of listeners are very very astute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► listeners called out the fact that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► of us very well may have been me had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► talked about with regard to WWDC flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/260">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► into like San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► rather than San Jose and you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/265">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► we could just catch an uber to get down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► to San Jose after flying into San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► Francisco and and you know a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► had said hey that seems kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► disingenuous after you spent you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► fair bit of time complaining and railing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► against uber to then immediately say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► yeah I'll totally take an uber after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► that so it's actually me I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► pretty sure was me too said that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► Marco and he used it as a verb he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► like uber up to over down to San Jose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► yeah and the reason why is because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► were we recorded last week we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► have time for the uber topic during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► main show so we did it in the after show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► during the Edit I decided it was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► important to have as an after show topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► so i moved it forward in the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► and kind of promoted it like in the Edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► to a regular main core show topics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► thought it was important enough then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► know I probably wouldn't have said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► after having a discussion and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► kind of said without even thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► it you know like at the time as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► I said it I regretted saying it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► because I that is exactly the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► thing that I'm usually conscious of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► it's the kind of thing where like yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► kinda don't want to take uber anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► after all how horrible they are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► anyway I I personally have since deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► uber off my phone there were plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► previous reasons to do it but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► the big one to do it do it like now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► I figure you know I don't actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► it that often because in my in my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► city I don't need it but when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► traveling I would use it often but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► think i'm going to install lift now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► try that instead because yeah it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► not worth supporting that if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► have to yep it's kind of like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► people who tweeted at us about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► point out like the Kleenex situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► where because uber was first and is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► famous and so prominent that you know 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► birotte is like even though you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► saying the word uber which is the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► of a company it's just the generic term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► for a thing that makes a car come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► get you because you tap stuff on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► phone right yeah and so you could Boober [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► for one place yellow with lift or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► whatever but anyway either way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► larger question is given all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► are we gonna continue to use Hoover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/390">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► you know I think all of us in our places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► where we actually live never have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► for a service like uber at all so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► not really relevant only really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► when we're traveling and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► a lot of people deleting him off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► phone and or otherwise vowing to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/406">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► use it one of the interesting things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► read about the people who drive gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/412">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► is that very often the drivers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► working for multiple ones of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► companies at the same time yeah so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► you call for a lift or you call for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► uber it could be the same person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► starting to change what app is up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► their phone which is interesting so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► not as if the purse the car the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► you get is actually dependent on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► company and lift like every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/434">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► company I'm sure has its own fair share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► of problems and you know or people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► putting on the chat room problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► dealing with down to the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► itself you know always putting location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► on oh no this is the opposite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► complaining the new burrow with has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► location anyway I recall reading lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► scary things about lift as well and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► very often they were presented as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► better alternative doober merely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► it were is so incredibly terrible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► the bar is low in some respects it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► little bit like airlines that we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► about before where we all know angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► travelers maybe we have been this Angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► traveler who has a bad experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► an airline and vows to never fly in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► again and if you travel at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/481">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► frequently you will eventually have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► same experience with every airline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► then you will literally be unable to fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► because that because all airlines do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► something that is enough to anger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► is that that's it I'm never flying delta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► again and they stick to it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► never fly delta again if you if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► that for five years of constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► traveling you will be out of airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► and I wonder if ride-sharing services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► especially when subsidized by VC money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► that are basically trying to put taxi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► companies out of business so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► you know dance on their their grave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► then raise their prices like I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► there are any good ride sharing company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► then it's not as if taxi services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► all that great either every every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► these things seems to have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/525">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► problem so you know I'm certainly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/526">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I've heard I heard somebody say recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/532">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► I'll still use uber but I'll hate myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► every time I do it I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that's the solution is a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► deleting nubra what if you use lift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► you find out all sorts of horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► things but left eventually you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► not use any ride-sharing services it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/541">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► hard to know what to do in these type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► situations I think it is very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► an a-line type situation but when there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► are alternatives obviously if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► any kind of choice at all and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you really do think Hoover is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► of the worst like don't pick them pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/557">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► another company right and I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► just keep doing that until you're out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► ride-sharing company right hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► company what are they called it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/567">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► ride sharing what do you call a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► like uber I don't know private taxis but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► it's not a car service I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► whatever it but like like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► usually this argument of like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► they're all probably terrible when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► might we just might not know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► terrible the other ones are because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/582">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► they're like less in the public eye or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► we do know but it was like the two news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► cycles ago right especially and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► talked about previously with like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► know how i buy things from amazon even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► though i know that in many ways amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► as a retail company is kind of horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► but i've worked another retail company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► before just enough to know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► all pretty horrible and retail is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► horrible business and so you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► the the smaller ones like what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► gonna do like oh I'm not gonna buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► thing at amazon I'm gonna buy it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► walmart know like you know we're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► making it like maybe i'll go to some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► go to target well they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► horrible and some other way to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► because retail is a horrible business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► and all the incentives kind of force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► everyone in it to be pretty horrible or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► to go out of business and so i decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► like it's worth it to me to shop at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► amazon because it's just so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► than everything else and and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► offenses aren't bad enough to to offend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/632">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► me enough to overcome you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► difference between them and anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► in in morality versus the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► convenience that they offer with uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► though i think it's a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► different situation because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/646">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► first of all uber in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► things is pretty young and so it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► for anybody to to look at what uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► gives them in their life and say i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► i can't be without that because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► will you were with that that like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► five years ago like it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► that long ago like chances are five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► years ago you weren't using anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► like that and you still lived you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► got around you still find a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► that work how did you do that right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► could you just go back to that how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► would it really be you know even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► there is no other ride hailing companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► like lift right like even if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► get any other ones in area if it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► the only one that serves your area how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► bad would it be not to use them and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► some cases it actually is really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► like in some cases if your alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► is like well I can get an uber in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► minutes or because of where I am like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► you're like you know in the in like know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► where Brooklyn and no cab will pick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► up out there believe me I've been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► this is before I used uber and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► to wait like literally you have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► an hour and a half from midnight to 130 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► am on a pier in Brooklyn because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/706">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► no cabs around you had to call a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► service and that's the soon as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► come get you in that kind of case okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► if we virtually the only thing that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► serve you I can't really follow you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► using it however most of the time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► most people if Hoover serves you at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► other options probably due to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► it's your regular taxi service or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► car hailing services or mass transit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► other like you know private you know car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► service and stuff like that like chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► are if you use uber at all you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► have other options and they might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► little bit less convenient you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► have to wait one or two extra minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► for a ride where you have to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► dollar more but you have to decide for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► yourself if that's worth you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► the the moral say things are not and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► me I think it's worth it yeah those up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► was that other one I heard about called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► fasten like fasten your seatbelts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► guess another one that's at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► least in the the Pacific Northwest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► heard a bunch of people talking about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► it's not just uber and lyft there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50 ◼   ► probably other options maybe not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► elimination wide so i guess check the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► app store and ask around to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► other options are in your area you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► can live an uber free lifestyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► hopefully though and I mean it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► for the three of us to say because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► white dudes but you know I've understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► that in some ways it can be better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► you're you know like a minority or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► you're a woman that maybe maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► it's better for some reason to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► call an uber or perhaps a lift well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► maybe not an over there's a lot but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► lot of horror stories about women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► getting picked up by overs okay maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► women with support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► Paul but you know maybe if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► person of color or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► you know maybe a taxi cab would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/802">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► not take your fair where an uber or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► perhaps a lift would you know it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► guess what I'm driving at is it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► nuanced right ever it it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► balancing act and you do what works best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► for you but I plan to before I go to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► Jose which I think I'm going to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► I plan to look into lift and understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► if there's any differences in procedure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► or like you know tipping paradigms or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► anything like that I plan to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► understand what that is before I go so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► this way I can use left rather than uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► and I should mention that um front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► the show G McDonald who in the past has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► run or been deeply involved with a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► guess she is still deeply involved with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► that camp for girls which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► organization that's near and dear to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/849">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► of our hearts anyway she just for fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► decided to drive I thought and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► pretty sure I have this right for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► uber and lyft and then ended up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► doing it for uber anymore because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► had some really bad experiences and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► don't have her tweets handy where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► talked about this unfortunately but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► can look at um you can look at her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► timeline or just ask her about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► she'll tell you that that she drives for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► lift from time to time because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► just felt better about it I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► form i remember what was better but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► seemed to think that the lift was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► better experience for drivers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► probably for writers to the pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► mustaches right I mean here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► to like it's kind of hard to be worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► than over like literally everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► do is horrible with the exception that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► they are kind of everywhere now but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the company is horrible the people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► the top leading the company are horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► the app is horrible insult like the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04 ◼   ► itself is its own incredible case study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► of horrendous abusive fraudulent app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► design like it's it does so many creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► immoral things that that honestly should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► be or might even our might might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► prohibited on iOS it's it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► terrible app in front of a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► service run by some really horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► people in again like in most cases if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► most the time if you're deciding between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► big crappy companies like airlines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► doors I think the differences are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► usually smaller between them but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► case like my god is uber horrible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► it would be really impressive for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► other company in this business to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► horrible as they are well that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the competition is for so here's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► article from class next thing saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► uber is quietly terrible for women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► black people study says so there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► article on that so so much for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► better for minorities or women and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► another article saying a new business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► model same racist cab drivers that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► talks about both uber and lyft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► making it harder for people with black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► sounding names to get rides so like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► with so many of these things are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► episode it's not it's not a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► a particular company or particular made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► it's a problem it's a cultural societal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► problem because all these companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► made up of people who come from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► culture and the society grant it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► often they are the worst people but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► know like the CEO of uber who was caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► on video arguing as one of his drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► but just just boggles my mind there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► maybe he was drunk you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► self-awareness to understand that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► don't even know if you can't if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► can't be if you are the CEO of a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► and you can't manage to be respectful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► magnanimous 45 minutes to one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► employees who's angry like it did bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► her on that you could be this bad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► everything having to do with you anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► yeah so if you you know if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► peace fight for justice as they say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► see if you want to solve the problem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► really have to solve it of the brute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► you're not going to solve it by scolding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► spoiled tech CEOs but if you can at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► if you could it all avoid giving money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► to what really seems to be the worst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► the very worst of a business that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► already in a slightly precarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► situation in terms of you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► articles going around about the the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► that goober is not profitable and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► basically being funded by a venture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► capital to put tax companies out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► business and if they ever succeeded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► that they would just raise their prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► and by the way they exploit their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► workers and that's this half of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► these the argument with the CEO was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► about a thing I used to get paid X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► amount now I get paid so much less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► the uber seeing I was saying he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► waiting to replace all these drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► with self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► anyway and their self driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► running through red lights and then who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► were lying about it oh it's a mess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► bottom line is stay in your house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► never go anywhere that is definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► judge Siracusa answer to this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► yeah you wish that was the answer solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► a lot of problems doesn't it it solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► your problems yeah I don't think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► ever actually taken an uber on my on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► account my wife has an account though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► used it when i was in san francisco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► i gotta tell you it was convenient i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► mean at my experience my personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► experience with uber has really been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► very good truth be told i've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► bad experience and it's always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► pretty well for me but like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► earlier you know i i'm not comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► with with the way the company as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► and certainly the CEO seems to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► business and that doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► they're that there's nothing but mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► terrible people it over but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► the people that are running the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► seemed to be pretty consistently mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► and terrible so because of that i intend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► to like i said try out life next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► i'm out there yeah and that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► best of it like every time i've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► been in an uber or even a taxi for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► matter like the people who are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► driving like the leaf nodes of the org [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► chart I've had good experiences now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► obviously that's not universal and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► all the article you just listed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► them refusing to pick up people black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► sounding names and picking up women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► driving them around longer than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► should be driving them and hitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► them and doing all sorts of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► things like obviously that happens but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► it's kind of like when when you get mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► a delta and vow that you love or fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► with them again does I mean every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► employee of delta is an evil person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► certainly not and so it's a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► thing we're like you're trying to punish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► the company and by withholding your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► business but what about the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► work for the company all they could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► quit to work for a better airline can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► they what if they work in Atlanta and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► it's Delta's hub I don't know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► whole the effectiveness and the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► ethics of boycotts have always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► complicated when it's not like a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► and white kind of you know pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► issue like you know segregation or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► know bus boycotts and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► this is slightly more nuanced but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► think if there's something you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► that's straight forward like marketer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1201">TS</a>]

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00:22:37 ◼   ► back-end that shows availability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1357">TS</a>]

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00:22:52 ◼   ► impression that this was a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1372">TS</a>]

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00:23:11 ◼   ► going i mean it certainly looks from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► outside like it's going really well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1393">TS</a>]

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00:23:20 ◼   ► how it's going to be going long term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1400">TS</a>]

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00:23:29 ◼   ► you know there are some of the some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► these ads are for websites or apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1411">TS</a>]

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00:23:42 ◼   ► want the ability to advertise for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► both types of things but I also would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► prefer if most of the ads were podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► as I'm actually considered having having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► actually be two separate inventory types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► so it would actually sell separate slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► possibly at different prices like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► pocket podcast ads would be cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1438">TS</a>]

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00:24:09 ◼   ► that in a podcast app I can now have ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1449">TS</a>]

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00:24:15 ◼   ► kind of not feel like an ad anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1455">TS</a>]

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00:26:24 ◼   ► buy an ad with your fingerprint in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► three seconds it's kind of awesome it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► incredibly satisfying and so yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► that's what I've been working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► last week or so is just building the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► system out and there's still a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► have to do like basically tomorrow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► have to build system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► notify people when categories become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► available that are sold out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► something I kind of added last minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► tonight because a bunch of things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► that my amelie got a bunch of emails to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► people saying hey I got here too late my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► category sold out can you put me up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► the next one and honorable I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► really want to give the business of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► having to maintain a thousand different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► relationships with people and eating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► them and then what if it sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► beforehand then like they're out of luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► and I email them so obviously build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► very simple like notify me thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► already built the system to record your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► intention to be notified I just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10 ◼   ► actually made the notifications yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► because now I have 30 days to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► because all these ads have their dales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► that is the most Marco thing supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► Marco comments I've ever heard oh I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► have to worry about that for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► yeah it's similarly like I want the ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► to email the person who bought it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► it expires to tell them your ID is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► expired click here if you want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► another one and I haven't built that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► either because I have three days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► build that too but yeah so for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► part they're the system is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► like it's you know three quarters of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► way done like all the core stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► there except in the payments you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► my admin administrator interface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► approve or reject and refund them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► sorts of you know payment handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► things that were actually surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► easy because stripe is so good I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► jeez like stripe kind of embarrasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► everything else I do like in like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► other part of this was more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► and took more work and more fiddling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► than the entire payment processing just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► kind of amazing you would think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► would have been the worst because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► arguably the most important since it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► involves money but no apparently not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► yeah I so I have some questions so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► had made mention that you would this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► took you like a week so last I heard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► had demo ads in the app you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► obviously I'm on the beta so I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► these like you know cam dads that well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► guess they weren't entirely demo they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► were kind of like first run ads they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► were real ads i had just inputted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► manually into the database right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► there was no interface for people to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► them mhm and so that was running for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► little bit and then how long did it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► you to do this whole back-end you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► about a week yeah about a week well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► because like i already had the system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► you know between the app and the sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► service i already had the system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► serve the as to the app have the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► show them record their stats and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► transmit the stats back on the next sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► and so that and then so I had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► everything I had basically the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► back end of like serving and tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► the ads so all I had to do was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► creation editing and buying of the ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► and that's not a small amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► but in the grand scheme of things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► only about half of it so when one goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► to buy an ad you you select you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► price and the first thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► presented with is choosing ad type you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► can either search for a podcast or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► can provide a URL what happens after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► that like it would I be providing art or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► blurb or what what what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► customizable here try it you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► to pay till the very end so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► gonna I'm not gonna like send you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► invoice it's very much you will know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► when you're paying it works for me I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► a little scared I don't mess with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► alright so I have a title description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► you gotta support arrow keys in return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► in your autocompletes come on oh my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► shirt my podcast search box yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► a big custom thing yeah if I hit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► our to select and hit return it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► nope I haven't looked at that coaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► 2014 it might support it easily i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► sure i'm using this this pure framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► which probably doesn't even exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► anymore i don't know it like it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► smallest like CSS type framework i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► find in 2014 so i put it in but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► it doesn't really matter it does not oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► this is very slick okay so I've put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► this is a difference between John and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► John is advertising for a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► presumably one that has other people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► it me I put in my own URL anyway Marvin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► the dog was this frequent test URL don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► worry so I have a title description a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► URL and optional image and then what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► really like is you have a little preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► right then and there that shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► approximately wanted to look like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► then like you said ready when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► ready either Apple pay or pay with card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► super cool i really like this and so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► basically the idea is you are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► advertising for a podcast or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► that can relate to the web anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► has a URL yeah so you know apps websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► you know and yeah anyway nice any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► website that's pretty cool and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► the initial take rate seems pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► from what i can tell i mean you're sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► out in a few few different things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► there's nothing that has no purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► nope that's lots available oh I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► I misread yeah so health has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► purchases but but there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► categories that have all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► categories have at least one fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► well so you obviously massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► underpriced this stuff I actually raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► the prices about an hour ago because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► they sold too fast and i noticed that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► know but like it's to it but anyway live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► and learn there'll be another 30 days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► did kind of want this to be a quick sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► because one of the big challenges that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► that I went is this with is all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► categories to say not enough data yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► because I just haven't had test ads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► those categories and so I really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► know like what categories even get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► traffic and then the pricing is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► a guess like you know business sold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► really quickly and I had it in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► the low price category because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► think it was as high traffic as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► other ones in overcast but now I'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► out if that's true or not if it is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► i'm going to move it up to the little to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► the dark gray section between all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► the others that's like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► mid-priced ear and then that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► should an auction system because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► market will decide what's valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► because it's not just the traffic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► like how valuable of the people is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► the business podcast maybe they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► lots of money and buy expensive stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► all the time so they're more valuable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► advertise to maybe I mean you know i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► just the price is obviously individually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► if I need to but ultimately I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► rather have the inventory sell out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► often than to extract every possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► last dollar out of the highest bidder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► because I want there to be a lot of ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► in the system because that would people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► see a nice variety in their apps and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► it kind of gives more people a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► advertise in the app so that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► prefer sold out inventory to necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the absolute highest price again I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► no idea how hard it's going to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► sell these ads in you know six months a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► year I have no idea it could be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► easy this could require very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► effort on my part or might have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► actually start like you know keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► this email list like quote reaching out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► to people and reaching all over them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► get them to buy an ad like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► it's sudden you'll be on to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► business model anyway so it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► that's true it's gonna be hard to beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► this like if this keeps going the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► know anywhere near what it is now first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► of all I've made today enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► something like eight months of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► google ads wow that's all I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► if I'm gonna make this every month but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► it it certainly shows like this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► probably the right move and if if if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► even get you know a quarter of this i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► happy with that yeah I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► gonna go up I felt next month is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► to be higher because you have to raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► these prices you just have to and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► even if it's slowly tapers off from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► course of a few years the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► that'll make you stop it which is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► is a thing that may happen but the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► they'll make you stop is if you find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► too annoying I guess that is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► is the thing that's going to get this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► feel like yeah i mean that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► certainly the the main limiting factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► is like how much of my time will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► but the good thing is this is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► easy thing to have someone else help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► with yeah that's sort of true but right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► now like I'm doing it myself right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► because I don't want to immediately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► asked for something like this because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► want to know first of all how is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► doing and you want to do those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► really kind of run it myself so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► to know how it works for everybody all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► right at the front I want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► all the needs are hat you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► what the pain points are so I can fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► them and then I need to know like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► this even the kind of thing I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► outsource to someone else or is it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► little work that I can just do it myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► you know if it's sending 50 emails on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► one day a month that's that's a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► man of work but I could probably do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► myself you know so you know we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► we'll see what elections up being again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► it's way too early to tell but the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► early indication suggests that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► pretty good what's a super awesome now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► so you're doing all the approving by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► hand using your little admin interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► yep have you had to deny anyone as yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► that wasn't clearly just spamming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► for the sake of being a jerk no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► one of the things is you have to pay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► even submit it like all right yes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► in in like the in crud web app terms it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► literally doesn't even save the database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► record until it has a payment the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► payments all like in you know in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► the temporary session post variables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► until you actually until it's paid so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► that so that basically makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► spammable from a pure spam perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► it puts ups you know a pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► barrier that and so and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► and I am human reviewing the mall to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► just make sure they're not like obscene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► or you know hate content or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► else and there was one one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► submitted one that had a word that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► people might consider a bad word it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► not like one of the big ones but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► like a kind of ancillary one so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► went back to that person like hey do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► mind if I edit this and we worked out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► different copy and then that was it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► I approved it so that that was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► the only one that even required any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► review at all nice and you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► amazing about this when google sells ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► on my behalf i get something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► think sixty percent of it when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► sells anything on my behalf I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► seventy percent of it or maybe a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► later for subscriptions if I'm lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► eighty-five percent of it when google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► pays me money it's money that I earned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► like you know six weeks ago that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► finally got paid for when apple pays me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► my money it's again similarly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► money I earned about six weeks ago with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► these stripe ads i'm earning i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► about ninety seven percent of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► sell for and it gets deposited my bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► account in two days that's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► kind of amazing to be out of the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► walled garden ecosystem for once that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► super cool so initial reaction things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► are going great yeah how do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► you're going to play with the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► for now like are you going to i get i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► guess it let's suppose you sell out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► the next 48 hours there's really no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► impetus to mess with pricing until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► end of the month unless you want to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► down on the people that asked to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► notified right i well I guess I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► mean I probably a good business plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► cut down on the number of interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► parties but I guess what I'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► there's no there's no reason for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► raise your prices now once you sell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► unless you want to prevent people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► saying notify me you know let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► all goes from as we record it's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► than a thousand dollars and let's say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► becomes 3000 tomorrow all you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► accomplishing since it's sold out is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► you're preventing me from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► interested because I maybe I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► spent less than a thousand but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► going to spend three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you know what I mean so yeah you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► really need to mess around with pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► for like 30 days right yeah I mean for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► the most part like you know unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► things are not selling that I might low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it right or not selling like that health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► category but you know for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna treat this the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► way I've treated any other kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► where I set the price for an ad so our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► podcast ads you know my website ads when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► I sold our RSS sponsorships things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► that and the way I've done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► basically is if they sell out way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► fast when I go to sell them every is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► price a little bit until things start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► selling still a reasonable pace like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► don't want it to be like pulling teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► to get things sold but slowly enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► that it's not like a stampede and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► get 50 angry emails people saying oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► missed my chance to buy like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► that's that's no good either that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► it's not great for business necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► so i think i'm just going to control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► prices slowly and you know maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► when next month rolls around i will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► know see how it sells at the new higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► price from an hour ago instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► initial prices which will which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► about i think about thirty percent lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► you know i'll see how it sells at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► new kind of higher prices and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► sells out just as fast then maybe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► the month after that then maybe i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► raise it a little bit more but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► selling out like at a reasonably healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► rate then I'll just leave it the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► is really you really nailed it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► looks great thanks so let's assume this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► is super successful for a year just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► the sake of discussion are you at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► interested in expanding i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► talked about this a little bitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► are you all interested in expanding into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► being like i ad for other people so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► speak you know and and oh and either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► white labeling your ad platform or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► extending your ad platform to anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► elses at apps probably not I it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► like once you become an ad network for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► other people that's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► business and it's a much higher needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► business for you know just dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► people dealing with everyone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► money dealing with staffing and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► people's issues and it's a much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► business it's a much higher touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► business and this system I built kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► in response to other types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► I've done where it's like you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► like blog ads and podcast ads where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► lot of times you know you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► rehearse of sponsors you have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► know coordinate with them via four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► five different emails you eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► like put the ad and you're-- it you book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► the ad in your system you do the ad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► you have to invoice them and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► might take six months to pay the invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► like we see we've seen the whole whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► spectrum some people pay the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► some people pay a year later or not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► all and it's a very just intensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► process and there are tools like fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► books that make it easier but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► still a lot of just human work and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► dealing with administration to just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42 ◼   ► the basics of selling and getting paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► and so with this I I really created this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► to be as simple as possible and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► actually one thing's going to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► prices kind of low because most big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► companies who would sponsor things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► this who would buy these ads if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► below a certain price oftentimes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► a thousand dollars it requires less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► process for them to approve the payment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► so you know a lot of times big companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► if you if it's more than that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► have to go through like an official you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► know requisition process or some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► you know garbage full of paperwork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► overhead but if it's you know if it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► it's lower if it's like a you know a sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► one thousand dollar price for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► a lot of times you can just put that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► a credit card and be done with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► not have to worry too much about it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► want to keep these prices in that range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► so that way I can have the system i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► now which is look if you want one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► these it's self-serve you you go to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► site you set it up you pay right there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► don't even see it until you pay because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► I don't want to have to be chasing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► down in a year you didn't pay your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► invoice ok I hate that so much and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► like this system is very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► keeping it as simple as it possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50 ◼   ► keep it and part of that it requires the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► prices be kind of low that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► requires that everything remains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► self-serve and it requires that not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► lot that I'm doing involves human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► interaction from me because if that's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► that's what it ends up needing to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► I'll have to hire someone else to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► me because I don't have the time to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► dealing with a lot of effort into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► system but in order to keep at that size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► and that scale I basically have to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► it my appt only I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► come an ad network for any other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► because that will that will by nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► make it a bigger more complicated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► the prices would probably go up I'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► to start dealing with people stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► invoice systems and I just don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► deal with that that's not the business I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► want to be in does makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► I you know the thing that impresses me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► about you is that maybe I mean I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► a big wimp but the audacity of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► something like this like aw screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► I'll saw my own ads why not like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► no way in a million years maybe I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► have had the thought if I were in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► shoes but I'd look at this and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► yeah I'm not gonna do that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► way that'll work and good then good on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► you for not only having the the I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► know fortitude to do it but to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► happen it's so far seems successful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► John has said I think the ticking time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► bomb is about a year away until you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► another business model change so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► canceled fail miserably I I don't I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► mostly doing as a joke is if it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► like Mara said if it continues like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► or better like there's no reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► unless I don't like I said unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► somehow it becomes too much of a burden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► for mark or deal with it I don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► it would because everything he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► outlined about how he doesn't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► anything and doesn't have to chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► people for money and doesn't have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► money on behalf of other people like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you know again maybe he's leaving money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► on the table by saying I'm going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► to keep it in the in the petty cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► range but if that's enough money then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► it's fine and it should be sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► same could have probably been set up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► all the past plans so again we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► wait to see how it's going to be but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► it actually continues like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► sustainably I don't really see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► reason for him to change models yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► completely because like the sales would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► have to go down a lot for it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► sense for me to look another model again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► because right now I have pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► everything I want I have a way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► sustainable income I have my peg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► subscriber still which is it's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► nice sustainable income that can almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► support the whole business by itself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► this is kind of just bonus money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► this is monetizing all the free users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► finally in a way that actually works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► because the ads really didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► well enough the other the previous ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► so this is kind of a great system as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► long as it continues to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► inventory at any reasonable rate and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► know day one again it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► possible to say I mean you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► once you have the kind of audience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► my app has I i could sell out day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► pretty easily but the question is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► happens on day 365 when people have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► a year worth of buying these ads to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► what they're actually worth and what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► they're worth a lot less than what i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► charging obviously have to lower my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► prices but like what are they worth we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► don't know there I don't has ever been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► system where you could advertise for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► podcast in a podcast player so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► really a complete unknown for both me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► and the advertisers we have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► what a subscriber is worth you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► how much do you subscribers stick around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► all right you know if you get a sacar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► through an ad are they you know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► of them are still subscribed in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► we don't know and so it's it's the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► unknown right now but day one suggests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► that it's pretty that there's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► a very wide buffer here for things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► need to be scaled down if necessary if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► it ends up the economics don't work very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► well I can scale this way down and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► still worth doing so that that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► shows that this is probably a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► by the way those are other controls I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► have like I can increase the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► slots that sell you know like in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► categories if they if they demand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► the price be below a certain level to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► sell them very often I can just put more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► slots there you know like this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► is a known thing to do like Pete you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► know people have been dealing with AD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► based businesses of quite a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► now we know how to do it and as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► the ads are valuable at all you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► usually make it work and and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► what we're seeing so far is it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► these are valuable the only question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► just how valuable and that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► really just minor tweaks over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► that's not like having to rethink the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► whole system yeah that's super cool I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► really impressed really proud of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► good work thanks a couple of very quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► questions would you consider open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► sourcing this ad back end so that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► people can copy all your hard work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► free probably not but it's not out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► like a like a guarding my hard work kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► of attitude it's more just like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► it is pretty intertwined with overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► so it wouldn't make a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► for this to be used for anybody else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► know like this is really an ad network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► for podcasts on overcast that happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► also work for websites so like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► it's not it's pretty custom to overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► and most of the hard stuff is payment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► processing which I don't even wish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► seal anybody can integrates directed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► that so it's yeah I just had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► value to that fair enough and finally uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► where's my swipe to delete I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► this so I haven't done that yet I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► gonna tackle that probably next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► it's got 30 days to do swipe to delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► is that how this works yeah well I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► 29 days to do it then one day to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► all these notifications fair enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► take back all the nice things he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► unless you give me my swipe to delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► one star we respond to this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► Casper an obsessively engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► mattress at a shockingly fair price go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► to Casper calm / ATP and use code ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► for fifty dollars towards your mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► Casper created one perfect mattress sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► it directly to consumers and eliminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► Commission driven inflated prices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52 ◼   ► award-winning Casper mattress was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► developed in house with a sleek design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► and is delivered in a remarkably small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► box you can get it up narrow stairs if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► you have to Casper has revolutionize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► industry by cut in the cost of dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► with all these resellers and passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► that savings directly on to you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► in-house team of Casper engineers spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► thousands of hours developing the Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► mattress it contains supportive memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► foams for a sleep surface with just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► right sink and just the right bounce and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► it's breathable design sleeves cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► help you regulate your temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► throughout the night Casper has also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► made buying mattresses online which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► sounds kind of crazy completely easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► risk-free they have free delivery in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► that nice and small box and free returns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► within a hundred night home trial if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► don't love it within a hundred nights of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► sleeping on it they will arrange for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► to be picked up at your house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► they'll give you a full refund Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► understand the importance of truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► sleeping on our mattress before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► commit because you're gonna be spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► a third of your life on it get yours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► try it for a hundred nights in your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► home with free delivery and free returns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► with home pick up completely risk-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► go to casper calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► ATP use code ATP for fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► towards your mattress terms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► conditions do apply once again Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► calm / ATP and code ATP thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► much to Casper for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► so today I think what's today um there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► was a rumor that broke that came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► the wall street journal which is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22 ◼   ► pretty well sourced in fact usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► well-sourced enough that we all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► believe that Apple goes to the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► street journal and says hey would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► talk about this please and the Wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► Street Journal has said that the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► 8 or whatever it may be called will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► us bc and at first i thought oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► means that it will have lightning on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► phone and USB see on the other end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► the cable instead of via USB what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► be a i always get it confused hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► whatever the day thank you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► today is B is the Pentagon on printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► all right ok so anyway so I assumed oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► that just means that the cable will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► from lightning to USB see that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► sense most pretty much all the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03 ◼   ► or USB see now fine but upon further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► inspection it sounds like no no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► phone itself will actually be us bc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► I have really conflicting opinions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► this because my gut reaction is no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► do not want this I have a crudload of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► lightning cables lightning is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25 ◼   ► small and I don't want to mess with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► what good does this do me and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► that that's in large part because off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► the top of my head I don't think I own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► single device that supports USB see so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► guess you could make the argument i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► living in the past and if you make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► argument on living in the past and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► guess really this is the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► maybe i should be using us bc and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► should embrace my future us bc overlords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► so John Mark when I were talking a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► earlier what do you think about all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► this is a weird rumor because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► said is in the wall street journal which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► is usually like the the end the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► stage of life for rumors if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► graduate all the way up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► Anjali and end up in the wall street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► journal but as so many people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► pointed out it is so poorly written the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► bikini men tell it's like it was written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► by someone who doesn't understand any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► the things involved they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► understand how phones work they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► understand what these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► standards for connectors are they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► understand what a port is because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► wrote it in such a way they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► reading it going what what are you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► trying to say just like Casey said are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► you just saying that the other end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► the connector will be C are you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► the phone will have USBC port are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► saying i pads will have USB seaports in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► addition to the lighting but like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► do you what are you even saying this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► the worst leak ever like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► leak in a coherent way so we can at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► least understand the thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► telling us is supposed to be coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► so I've kind of discounted or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► discounted but I've set aside how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► rumor is being communicated I've chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► to believe that what these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► trying to tell us is exactly what Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► said and that if you pick up an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► in the future and look at the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► it instead of a lightning port you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► see a USBC port like every other you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► know android phone and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► things that are out there right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► what I'm choosing to to think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► trying to tell me and then I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► about that if it's trying to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► something different like oh that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► know the other end of the lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► cable is going to be us bc that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► super boring rumor and i guess we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► kind of get upset about that because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► has been pointed out in many places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► before that's cool for apples ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► and it kind of makes sense and it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► of gets back to the whole iphone 7 thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36 ◼   ► we're like oh you buy an iphone 7 a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► macbook pro you can't even plug them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► because there's no place to put the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► a connector that's true and all but USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► a is everywhere as a charging port it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► on my luggage for crying out loud like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► it is everywhere so there's an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► to be had there that Apple doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► would be maybe an apple thing to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► be like oh you should just you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► should be in an Apple ecosystem are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► power bricks have us bc connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► that's the future i'll blog anyway i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► ignoring that I'm just pretending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► they're telling me that there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► be USBC port on iPhones and I I'm of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► minds on this like I feel like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► there are strong arguments on both sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► both strong arguments for why this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► be good and bad and also surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► strong arguments for why Apple wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► wouldn't do this like usually it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► the opposite it's like okay well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► arguments for and against on a tech wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► but then when you bring apple into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► picture you say what apple do this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► this is the only one strong argument for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► like that text up aside we know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► would definitely do a thing like this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► would never do a thing like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► with Apple an estate it is I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► can look to apple and say very strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► they both would do something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► and wouldn't do something like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► for the tech you can say this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► awesome tech idea this is a bad tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► idea so for on the tech side obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► why is this a bad idea because lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► is smaller and you know that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► connector every millimeter on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► connector is some number of months or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► years off its life as Apple makes things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► ever thinner and thinner you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► hit the limit of us bc before you at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► limit of lightning not much before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► like probably like fractions of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► millimeter or something but a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► before lightning is smaller than USB say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► so there's that on the other side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► tech thing and this is a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► an unknown here lightning we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► how unreliable lightning is like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► anecdotal evidence of weird connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► scorching and stuff Apple knows for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► what their warranty repair thing is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► know and also the Apple cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► themselves which really has nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► do with connector and everything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► with apples uncomfortable relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► with strain really fun cables where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► apparently make things that don't hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► up that well when the under you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► under rough usage but there is a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► argument to be made for you know for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► fact that lightning is smaller but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► the fact that USB USB c and someone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► correct me if i'm wrong it inverts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► relationship of springing pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► metal and stationary pieces of metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► where the connector is stationary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► solid and has these contacts on it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► is great and makes that connector of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► sturdy but the inside of the device has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► the little springy metal fingers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► touch the contact points so if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► little springing metal fingers get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► fatigued or bent up or fail to make good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► contact that's inside your phone you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► a problem whereas us b/c connector is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► believe the springy bits are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► cable and inside the connector is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► stiff stationary thing i'm using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► hectic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► for all this I'm sure and so if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► little springy bits that make contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► with the stationary thing fatigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► throughout the cable and get a new cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► so that that is a tech argument on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► side of us bc and then again I guess on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► the connectors themselves you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► you know the business side of like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► Apple gets money for lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► connectors people can make peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► without it that's a good and a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► because good Apple makes money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► control it it's bad that Apple has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► approve every peripheral yeah so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► like you could their arguments about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► side for the tech thing and then with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► move over to Apple is this a thing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► would do or is this an apple thing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► wouldn't do and I think probably as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► as like a couple years in the past we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► all would have said regardless of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► that tech stuff we just talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► Apple will never do this because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► loves things super thin and Apple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► things proprietary and Apple is not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► much in love with conforming to industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► standards just for the hell of it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► that would that would be the only side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► of this argument it all be like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► totally like that's the Apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► today's Apple today's Apple is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► things the old apple didn't do both good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► and bad and has sowed enough doubt in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► mind that I I'm now envisioning these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► boardroom conversations where somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► high-ups it says tell me again what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► advantages are of the our proprietary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► lightning connector versus us bc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► maybe this comes up because of large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► numbers of warranty repairs or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► who knows what the inciting incident is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► but someone says remind me again what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► we've been doing this lightning thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► for five years like what advantage do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► continue to have over over us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► especially now that we spread us bc to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► all of our you know all of our macs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► our power brick connectors and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► all that stuff and presumably if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► ever released new macs they will expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► it even more of them why are we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► using lightning in not saying that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► a reason but just you know just go over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► it again for me like tell me again what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► the advantages are great if it's el [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► mocambo like here's our revenue from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► made for iphone program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► and here's what we've been able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► with the connector but changing the pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► through software and we're not beholden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► to the USB consortium in here this love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► habla and maybe there's an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► within the company so that's those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► compelling arguments and now here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► we would get with us bc everywhere would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► be the same one connector for power data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► peripherals video out at adapters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► networking like across max and all ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► devices including the future much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► iPads that were surely making with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► multiple USB connectors on them right an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► apple make a mouse yeah other person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► make that once you once you standardize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► on just literally one omnidirectional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► connector that's really small across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► your products that's that's an advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► and you you get to take advantage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► ecosystem of existing USBC peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► which presumably will only grow as other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► things adopt it so an apple five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► ago I can't imagine this discussion even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► taking place in serious ways apple today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► I can imagine this discussion being had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► prompted by whatever and I can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► the USBC contingent inside Apple winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► the argument and saying we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► go with the industry standard even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► though it is worse than a few ways tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► wise because it's also better in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► ways tech wise and there's an ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► advantage not just for apple and non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► apple companies but for Apple's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► products internally to standardize them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► one because it's never been this never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► been a chance to do that before at no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► time in the past has there been any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► viable choice for a standard connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► for like iPods and all macs except for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► guess when it was firewire but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► part I was hardly viable and firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► was definitely not the standard across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► all macs that Max's the demon have it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► it so here we are and I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► incredibly believing a rumor that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► drive phone would have a USBC connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► on it because you know it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► a slam dunk and I'm not even saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► higher than 5050 but i would i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42 ◼   ► it is fifty-fifty in my mind that tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► wise coin flip would Apple do it coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► flip that's that's where I come down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► us do you want them to I kind of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► because if they're going to standardize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► on us bc everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► on us bc everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the I'm sold on the uniformity win and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► I'm also kind of sort of sold on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► durability win with the little bendy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► finger things and I have no I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► data on the right liability thing and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► course well my connector is still work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► and I don't have these problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► people have to do of price you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► well though my wife said she had one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► hers that had the little scorch mark I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► looked at it it wasn't like wasn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► part was was but that you just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► mechanically speaking like I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► Lightning activated was solid and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► have any little fragile Pinzon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► everything but the fact that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► those little things those little fragile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33 ◼   ► fingers are inside the phones I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► that being prompted a right I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► data on this but I'm willing to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► and so if they did it I won't be angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► I'll be kind of proud of them for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► surprisingly pragmatic and courageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► and for ya kind of kind of not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► courageous in terms of like like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► willing to take the heat because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► they wouldn't actually that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► aspect to this some people were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► me like you just changed the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► you're changing it again well first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► all just as a relative term like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► 30-pin connector was around for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► ten years and so you know that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► that's a good run this is slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► than half of that it's if they ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► swapping this out and slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► transitioning it would be like five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► years by the time they were done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► transitioning everything right all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► products they sold that's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► that's you know it's shorter than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► 30-pin but unlike the 30 pin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► lightning they wouldn't be changing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► proprietary connector for another they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► would actually be moving to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► everybody else already is so I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► think actually people wouldn't be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► that mad about yes you'll be mad all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► have leave lightning cables what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► hell do I do with them right but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► is a wit there is a PR and real win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► there to say but we move to the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► we move to the industry standard so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► you know if you're in a mixed household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► Android and iOS device you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► have two separate charging cables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► the thing that you use to charge your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► Mac can also charge your phone and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► there's a you know there's a story to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► had there to sell this so that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► less impact so that it's basically even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► though it hasn't been around for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► years we're not moving to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► proprietary one we're not screwing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► movie the interest and so people will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► less angry for a shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► period of time I think Marco yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► pretty much agree with John if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► have asked me a year ago I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► said all that why would they kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► anything that's dumb in this moment copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► your grab might have said it after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► who knows but the way I feel about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► now like it's what you know that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► that I've had my my USB see macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► for a few months and I've I have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► USBC cables and now I had the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► thing where I have like half of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► cables are that car and half for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► cry and its really annoying and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► on the phone it's a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► than like a laptop because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► other end of the cable but it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► annoying when I'm packing for a trip and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► I'm packing my charging cables that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► of what i use charges via lightning but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► not all of what i use i still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3778">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► have a u.s. you know some mini USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► cables and now i have a USBC cable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► this new laptop and probably anything i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► get in the future will be USBC cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► there is a lot you know like the EU has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► mandated certain charge cable standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► for a while and the reason why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► because this actually generates tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► waste like all the different like waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► cables that people have to you know buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► separately and then we're at separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► if their own way and have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► different connectors and everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► actually does hurt progress on a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► of big ways to have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► proprietary things I think all you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► to do to decide whether this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36 ◼   ► idea or not kind of in like in theory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► to think like if they were designing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► iphone 5 the first cable if the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► phone not to use the dock connector if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► they were designing that today would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► they still make lightning today in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► world where USBC exists or would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► just use us bc and it's kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► if you do the metal exercise like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► would be like the right thing to do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► they were if they had a clean start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► today if there was no legacy to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► about no established devices out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► on the world what would be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► right choice and i think it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► USPSA for the right choice you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► assuming it is probably more resilient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► because of you know having the pins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► the cable and so instead of the plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► things like that but also just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20 ◼   ► it is clearly a really good very soon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► be very widespread industry standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► and there's a lot of benefits to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► like Apple does love a good proprietary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► port but when they can make one they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► love that they'll take it took advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► when they can but not always sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► they just use standard things like us be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► like on the max like you know they for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► long time they used a standard headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► jack because that it wasn't worth making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► their own custom headphone jack like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► world had a standard for this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► they used it and most of the time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► do that most of the time that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► choice they make and right now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► it's very very clear that you like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► they made the dock connector that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► special purpose thing they made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:04 ◼   ► ipods they and they later adapted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06 ◼   ► when they made lightning there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► nothing better for them to move to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► the industry the any of the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► consortium and their people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► designing god knows what with all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► crazy like like the USB 3 b connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► mini micro USB the the seven connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► i have to my digital cameras in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► house yeah it looks almost the same yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► and that like pretty much everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► USB people have ever designed from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► cable perspective or from a country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► perspective rather has been horrendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► before us pc it's no coincidence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► Apple allegedly had a very big role in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► USBC possibly even designed the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► thing themselves and just like handing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► it to the USB people saying here if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► that's another reason by the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► this argument could be one inside Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► because whatever sort of not invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► here Apple pride things may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► preventing it like with lightning we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► made that be like we kind of made us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► too so yeah we're all good and we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► good in the pride area even if the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► doesn't know it we here at Apple know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► that we kind of made this too so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59 ◼   ► there's another that that's why I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► imagine this argument big one inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► Apple exactly and so today no question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► the right move if you were starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► fresh would be us bc and so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► question is is it worth it for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► endure the transition costs to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► that point and I think you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:22 ◼   ► you know I made a joke about courage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► earlier referring to there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24 ◼   ► wonderful just justification for moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► the headphone jack but I think ditching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► lightning this year and going to us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► in this new fancy phone that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► real courage because they are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► hear about it from the users if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► is they are definitely going to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► from people i mean people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► mad today about lightning I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► they're still mad almost five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► later that they can't use their dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► connector that they bought ten years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► to charge their iphone I do hope though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► like maybe I bought his numbers in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► because Android phones are super risky I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► think I saw like what their market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► is among smartphones I think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► eighty percent or something it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4018">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► really really high number I'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► that every house that has some high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► percentage of the houses that have angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► people who are angry about like dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► lightning the they'll be USBC charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► cables hanging around within a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► years to charge the android phones mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► exactly and so if you think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16 ◼   ► what does an all USBC world look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► well we're already gonna be halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► there because all android phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► going to have it if they don't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► they're gonna have it you know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25 ◼   ► the next year right and so like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► gonna start seeing now in you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► places like like you know like hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► nightstands and like charging cables in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► like airports and and like terminals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► stuff like that like you're gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► seeing you know where we're used to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:41 ◼   ► maybe you'd have a lightning port or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44 ◼   ► lightning cable and maybe you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► of those dual like lightning and micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► USB things you're gonna start seeing us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► bc all over all those things now for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► the android phones and wouldn't it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► great if they could just do us bc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► have that cover although that would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► be the new standard for charging your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01 ◼   ► phone but that would be amazing i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► apple had big plans for lightning for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► being this like amazing universal report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09 ◼   ► that could do all these different data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► things and everything and i think part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► of the justification for removing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► headphone jack last year was you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► turns out live in a wireless world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18 ◼   ► most what we do is wireless it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► like i'll go like i'll go look at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► you know audio stuff i try to buy like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► decent microphone or sound interface for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► iOS devices and a lot of them didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29 ◼   ► even make the jump from 30-pin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► lightning I think lightning largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► hasn't panned out in like being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► universal accessory port Apple wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► to be and for a number of reasons one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► you know wireless things are so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42 ◼   ► another is that Android is more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► presence than I think Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► thought it would be or wanted it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► in that market you know it's similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► like you know one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► everyone said why they wouldn't maybe do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► this is what they just had to never make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► headphones this past year and well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► lighting headphones have actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► around for a couple years but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01 ◼   ► been like three pairs of them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► there's been almost none and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► nobody uses them the only ones that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► any reasonable use are the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► Apple includes in the box for free with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► the iphone 7 but if they changed us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:13 ◼   ► they would probably just include a USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15 ◼   ► version and just like it was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► no big deal for all the people who got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► the ones in the box for free with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► iphone 7 it would be similarly no big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► deal for all the people who would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25 ◼   ► the new USBC ones in the box with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:26 ◼   ► iphone 8 or whatever it's called so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28 ◼   ► that you can rule that argument right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► out that doesn't matter that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► doesn't matter enough right if you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► look at the ipad in particular the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► really needs needs help you know it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► needs to become more of a work device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► boost its sales because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► you know they nailed the like passive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► consumption market pretty well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► want a passive consumption by rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► people market yeah that yeah yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► high end of the passive consumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► market they they they have that covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► now where I think they need to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► lot more headway is in the productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► market and they are starting to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► know things like things like the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► hurting them but not in like a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► way yet but in a way that they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► really be noticing and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► probably are and for the ipad to grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► they they are making it more PC like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► they added the smart keyboards they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21 ◼   ► added the smart connector they added the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► pencil that you know they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► hopefully keep pushing in this direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26 ◼   ► you know who knows what the software has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► coming next month or this month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► whatever it is we'll see i guess but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► think there is large potential if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► would put a USBC port on an iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► right now I'm in earlier but like sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41 ◼   ► devices and things that you like very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► few them are available for lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► everything is available for computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► like every kind of peripheral you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► think of is available with a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51 ◼   ► interface on the end of it and it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► me not USBC port necessary but like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► could plug into USB seaport through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► very easy cheap cable or a very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► adapter that you probably would already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► have three up in the bag if Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► the iPad to become more of a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► adding a USBC port or two or three is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► not ridiculous you know it's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► early I remember when I suggested that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► it was on this show I suggested maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► couple years ago adding a bunch of USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► ports the ipad knife pretty sure both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► you laughed at me very heartily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► every Apple commentator would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► laughed the suggestion a year ago or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► more we all did every since the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► wanna live and laugh at it i said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► you have so much room on the side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► ipad and they wanted to be a bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► capable it's the place to put i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► thinking of us be a ports that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:40 ◼   ► long ago it was like I was envisioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► USBA ports on the side of like the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► 1 because there was actually room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► them back then but you know the Apple no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► no I like I want more than one port on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► the 12 inch iPad pro I don't want just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► one centered in the bottom replacing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54 ◼   ► Lightning port you have the opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► to put more than one there's plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58 ◼   ► room and if you want it to be the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► iPad like surface hardware it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► have just one port for power and all USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► like the macbook one does so you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► compete yeah so I think the ipad there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:13 ◼   ► lots of new uses or uses that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► better if the ipad had us bc ports at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► least one and if they're gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21 ◼   ► why would they keep the Lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► also it would it would make very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► sense to keep the light of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27 ◼   ► headphones right now speaking of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30 ◼   ► just realized the other day wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32 ◼   ► reading these stories about lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► headphones and stuff I realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34 ◼   ► actually don't know where my lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36 ◼   ► headphones the came with my iphone 7 are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38 ◼   ► right now in the house I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► lost them but I don't know where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► are now because I've been using air pots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:43 ◼   ► and right if they if they get out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:46 ◼   ► of this if they do the transition now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► with the anticipation to it has been two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► things one thing marketer said that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52 ◼   ► us bc it's not it's not pervasive now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54 ◼   ► but presumably in a few years it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56 ◼   ► pervasive thanks to android phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► everything right so they'll be out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59 ◼   ► of that so they will be saving their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01 ◼   ► customers from the experience of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03 ◼   ► like oh I'm on vacation and oh I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► use my iphone with this thingy or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09 ◼   ► charge cable because it's not USB so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:10 ◼   ► saving them from that and then to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12 ◼   ► thing the Apple kind of knows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► controls is what is the time horizon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15 ◼   ► wireless charging right is that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18 ◼   ► around the corner is it one or two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► I feel like Apple if they switch now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► will be saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22 ◼   ► we believe that by the time we get our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:23 ◼   ► device is something that we can't USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25 ◼   ► can't use USBC anymore we'll have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27 ◼   ► wireless charging thing covered so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29 ◼   ► they're in a position to know and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30 ◼   ► all seem like reasonable things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32 ◼   ► happen well the other thing is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► mean this this doesn't sound a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35 ◼   ► likely than Apple adding USB 2 and iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► but what if the phone is getting thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40 ◼   ► because they're getting rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► bezels and they need somewhere to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43 ◼   ► things at the camera the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45 ◼   ► those bezels are there is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► partly out of like you know looks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49 ◼   ► grip and everything but mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51 ◼   ► that's where have to put a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:52 ◼   ► components that are too deep to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54 ◼   ► behind the screen and if they're moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56 ◼   ► to these larger screen like more edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58 ◼   ► edge phone designs that can be smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00 ◼   ► in the hand I have a smaller you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02 ◼   ► width and height in the hand they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05 ◼   ► have to get thicker in order to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► have space for things like a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:08 ◼   ► camera get ready for some bigger camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11 ◼   ► bumps well probably but that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► seems like a more Apple II as as judged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16 ◼   ► by the iphone 7 they'll just make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► bigger bulge rather than make pulsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19 ◼   ► water thicker but we'll see yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22 ◼   ► anyway so my point is basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24 ◼   ► like in a perfect world if they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26 ◼   ► from scratch they had no legacy they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► probably go USB see that would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► the best option if you look at the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31 ◼   ► the ipad could really use us bc and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:34 ◼   ► wouldn't make a lot of sense it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:35 ◼   ► be very apple style to still keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► lightning on there they could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:38 ◼   ► replace that we are already not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41 ◼   ► lightning for much else besides charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:45 ◼   ► like it's not being used for a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47 ◼   ► more by most people than just charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49 ◼   ► your phone and they're already pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:53 ◼   ► things like bluetooth for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55 ◼   ► peripherals for audio output and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► like that so and and of course then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59 ◼   ► you look at the mac and the end the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00 ◼   ► you know if you have us bc on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► things everything shares the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05 ◼   ► peripherals everything shares the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07 ◼   ► cables you can charge them everywhere we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09 ◼   ► even with the android device cables you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11 ◼   ► can use all the devices for android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:15 ◼   ► right now that are made by companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16 ◼   ► like Sony that like if sony has to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:19 ◼   ► between making something for lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21 ◼   ► or make something for us bc for android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23 ◼   ► phones they pick android because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► are there more of an android focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:26 ◼   ► company there's lots of companies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28 ◼   ► that we're like you kind of have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:29 ◼   ► when you pick teams like you see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31 ◼   ► some of the headphones like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:32 ◼   ► some USBC headphones now for android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34 ◼   ► phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35 ◼   ► and there are some Lightning headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37 ◼   ► for iPhones and usually the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39 ◼   ► headphone isn't available in both like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41 ◼   ► you kind of have to pick and it sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42 ◼   ► having this like this format war really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44 ◼   ► going on between these companies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46 ◼   ► these different ecosystems where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47 ◼   ► can't use the same headphones between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49 ◼   ► two different devices wouldn't it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51 ◼   ► great if you could just have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53 ◼   ► standard and USBC is good enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56 ◼   ► it's going to be good enough quite some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58 ◼   ► time we're not going to have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► cables again in like three years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:01 ◼   ► now it's going to be a while and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:04 ◼   ► would be amazing to have that now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06 ◼   ► is one other part of this that is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07 ◼   ► pointing out and that is the other end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09 ◼   ► of the cable the end that plugs into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► power brick or the computer and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14 ◼   ► case may be I think personally I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17 ◼   ► it's more likely that this rumor has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20 ◼   ► been misunderstood and that the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22 ◼   ► likely outcome here is that Apple's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► changing the phone to us bc but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26 ◼   ► just going to ship it in the box with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28 ◼   ► USBC cable that plugs into USB see brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31 ◼   ► but that's still going to have lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32 ◼   ► on the phone and that is way more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► that's totally that's totally what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37 ◼   ► thought and I think that's so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39 ◼   ► boring of a rumor so that's why I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41 ◼   ► I don't want to talk about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42 ◼   ► it's like all right fine like all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45 ◼   ► can do for that one is get angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47 ◼   ► the fact that now you have no place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48 ◼   ► chip plug in your charging cable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49 ◼   ► that would make such perfect sense along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51 ◼   ► with everything we have but but why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:52 ◼   ► that a story that's not a Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53 ◼   ► Journal caliber story like because who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:56 ◼   ► you know who cares whatever I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59 ◼   ► hope that's not it and the thing is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01 ◼   ► many ways having us bc and the charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:04 ◼   ► end is actually worse than having us be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06 ◼   ► a and the charger end because I as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08 ◼   ► rented on Twitter earlier like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:09 ◼   ► like the entire world right now has tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► of infrastructure in place that has USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:15 ◼   ► a ports everywhere for people to chart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18 ◼   ► people to plug their phones into to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20 ◼   ► charge them with and this isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23 ◼   ► like the phone owner having to buy a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:26 ◼   ► power brick or you know having to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:27 ◼   ► different one that comes in the box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29 ◼   ► throw other old ones this is like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31 ◼   ► it's like airplanes cars hotels like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:35 ◼   ► is different yeah luggage all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37 ◼   ► different places where you have us be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39 ◼   ► ports those travel things that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41 ◼   ► have with like 12 USB a ports on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43 ◼   ► you take the hotel so you can charge all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:44 ◼   ► families devices with you now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46 ◼   ► nothing to say that all those vices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:47 ◼   ► won't also convert to us bc at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► point it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► the question of if you're changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► non phone end of the cable which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53 ◼   ► we're talking about now even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:54 ◼   ► boring if you're changing the non phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56 ◼   ► end of the cable is now the right time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58 ◼   ► to change away from a because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00 ◼   ► you're not gaining much except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02 ◼   ► Ogam you're gaining is uniform sanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► with an apples line where you no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:05 ◼   ► have the embarrassing situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07 ◼   ► you buy a macbook pro in an iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:08 ◼   ► you can't charge them at each other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09 ◼   ► that's it that's all you get out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11 ◼   ► yeah and so like you know it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► fine to have to have us bc to see as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:18 ◼   ► main thing or see the lightning as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19 ◼   ► main thing that would be fine but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21 ◼   ► think see the lightning as the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23 ◼   ► that comes the phone and as a thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25 ◼   ► most people have is actually less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26 ◼   ► convenient now and for the foreseeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28 ◼   ► future then ada lightning would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30 ◼   ► because there are so many a ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:34 ◼   ► everywhere in the world that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36 ◼   ► already have installed or bought or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38 ◼   ► everything else and it goes way beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40 ◼   ► just buying a new power brick and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► goes into things like buying a new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► or reef or retrofitting airplanes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45 ◼   ► like those are things that just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► happen very often so we're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► us be a ports as like the new power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51 ◼   ► outlet for phones for a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54 ◼   ► come and you can't adapt a USB a port to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:59 ◼   ► have a USBC cable plugged into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:02 ◼   ► can go the other direction with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► these little wonderful nine dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:04 ◼   ► adapters and apple sells but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06 ◼   ► go the other way you can't plug a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08 ◼   ► see device into USB a port it violates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:12 ◼   ► the USB spec because as lots of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:13 ◼   ► things that can go wrong if you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15 ◼   ► wrong and lots of like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16 ◼   ► combinations they didn't want to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18 ◼   ► with like what do you do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19 ◼   ► massive amount of power on these pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20 ◼   ► and things like that and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22 ◼   ► direction can't be like legally adapted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24 ◼   ► by the USB spec and for very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:28 ◼   ► reasons that are probably likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:29 ◼   ► change so if you're gonna have a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:32 ◼   ► that you're going to want to plug into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:33 ◼   ► whatever you find as you travel or go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35 ◼   ► throughout the world or in turn out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37 ◼   ► your car wherever else you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39 ◼   ► going to want a whatever the phone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:42 ◼   ► lightning your USB c 2 USB a and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44 ◼   ► maybe have a dongle with your laptop's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46 ◼   ► you can plug it in there sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48 ◼   ► want to save yourself some email yeah go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50 ◼   ► you have to tell them that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51 ◼   ► those connectors that go from a to c you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52 ◼   ► have to tell you have to say that yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► know there are connected I know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► go on lots of places and buy one from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57 ◼   ► some kind of no-name brand but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59 ◼   ► reason why there aren't that many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01 ◼   ► them and why you don't see people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► Apple selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03 ◼   ► because they're bad bad things can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:06 ◼   ► happen please don't use them so speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09 ◼   ► of saving email I forgot to mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11 ◼   ► i do have a modern Apple TV in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:14 ◼   ► and that is us pc would either of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16 ◼   ► care to wager guess how many times I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► plug to USC a USBC cable into that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21 ◼   ► TV isn't that just a diagnostic port I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► don't think it's like supposed to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24 ◼   ► user no it's it's it's for diagnostic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26 ◼   ► Janet's for developers like when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► install provenance the emulator oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29 ◼   ► it's you know similar to how you plug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31 ◼   ► a phone to run devices or to run apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33 ◼   ► that you right from xcode onto the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35 ◼   ► through USB same thing with the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37 ◼   ► you plug it into the USB port and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39 ◼   ► becomes an output device for xcode you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:40 ◼   ► can run stuff on speaking of us bc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43 ◼   ► then gender switch has us bc which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► out soon and has someone tweeted earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:47 ◼   ► today that if you plug a nintendo switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49 ◼   ► into a macbook pro the switch charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51 ◼   ► the laptop not the other way around yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52 ◼   ► that's pretty great in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55 ◼   ► ubiquitous connectors it is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:56 ◼   ► weird situation because like we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58 ◼   ► it's kind of based on size that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4858">TS</a>]

01:20:59 ◼   ► it you expect if you're using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► laptop and you're like oh my phones low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:02 ◼   ► i'm going to plug it into my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► that's the thing like we've all done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05 ◼   ► right you fully expect that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07 ◼   ► plug your phone into your laptop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:08 ◼   ► laptop will charge your phone the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► wont charge your laptop and why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12 ◼   ► think that well because the batteries in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:13 ◼   ► the lap and the laptop is bigger i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15 ◼   ► but when you do it with the switch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17 ◼   ► guess they don't know how big they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:18 ◼   ► like a little dog that thinks it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20 ◼   ► big dog it's like i got your neck here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22 ◼   ► some juice take this i don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24 ◼   ► knows it could be just the mac think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:25 ◼   ► it's being charged and it actually isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27 ◼   ► because i don't understand why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:28 ◼   ► switch would output charge or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30 ◼   ► but in in this world of ubiquitous USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33 ◼   ► see that our future world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35 ◼   ► everything has USB seaports it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37 ◼   ► confusing as to what the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38 ◼   ► relationship between devices with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► batteries and then will be when you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:42 ◼   ► them into each other and i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:43 ◼   ► they're part of the standard is like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:45 ◼   ► that but they probably just didn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► do it right or something they are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► again why the hell this is switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► charging anything i don't think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:52 ◼   ► are any peripherals that plug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► switch and derive power from it so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55 ◼   ► knows yeah what do its various external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► control like the the pro controller what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► are those are those all just wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► with their own chargers or what i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► guess so I mean though all existing game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05 ◼   ► console controls i have used one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07 ◼   ► terrible micro USB things maybe the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:10 ◼   ► switch pro controller has a USB see i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► wouldn't know because i don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:14 ◼   ► pre-order for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16 ◼   ► I'm working on that by the way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► everybody knows i do have orders i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20 ◼   ► now have pre-orders for the switch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:24 ◼   ► for the zelda game that i want thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:25 ◼   ► some very helpful fans of the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:29 ◼   ► far still no pro controller you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31 ◼   ► to tell me at some point how I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33 ◼   ► supposed to get a pro controller when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:34 ◼   ► get my switch also can i buy the games i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37 ◼   ► heard that Pete went when I mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39 ◼   ► I had these games in my amazon cart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41 ◼   ► ready to pre-order i got a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43 ◼   ► helping people saying why don't I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44 ◼   ► buy a giant SD card and download them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:45 ◼   ► that a thing I can do yeah but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48 ◼   ► only reason i want the zelda it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49 ◼   ► the special edition that comes with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:50 ◼   ► bunch of little tchotchkes and stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► know and it comes with a soundtrack CD i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54 ◼   ► would throw all that away or I'd mail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► you exactly so so if you don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► about that I'm pretty sure every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:00 ◼   ► game is use downloadable and the storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02 ◼   ► on the switch itself is not that big so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► everyone's telling you to buy an SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05 ◼   ► but I think if you just get the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► and just want to play zelda you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► get it and then download zelda and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10 ◼   ► it and the digit of the story speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12 ◼   ► of switch about the zelda carts have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14 ◼   ► seen pictures of how big the little the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16 ◼   ► switch cartridges are no like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:19 ◼   ► really small like they're not as small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:20 ◼   ► as like the Micro Micro SD cards but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22 ◼   ► they're smaller than you think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:23 ◼   ► and that poses a problem because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► what if kids find these little games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29 ◼   ► stick them in their mouth swallow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► or do something else bad with them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:31 ◼   ► so Nintendo solution to this was to coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:35 ◼   ► the cartridges they sell with a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► very bad tasting substance so people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39 ◼   ► now licking antenna switch Carter that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5019">TS</a>]

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01:23:44 ◼   ► yes they really do taste like garbage I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46 ◼   ► didn't know what the back story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48 ◼   ► though yeah that's that's what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50 ◼   ► heard it's a plausible theory because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52 ◼   ► is it is like kind of a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53 ◼   ► swallowing choking hazard they're small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55 ◼   ► enough and they're going to be around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56 ◼   ► kids like because you know it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58 ◼   ► not like that there you're not worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59 ◼   ► about it kids swallowing the sim card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:00 ◼   ► from your phone because kids aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► playing with the sim card in your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► but kids will be around these loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► cartridges for the switch or they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► know bring a bunch of them in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:07 ◼   ► of the car with them and play them on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:08 ◼   ► car trip and stuff and they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► younger sibling gets ahold of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11 ◼   ► so apparently they taste terrible wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► so I sort of question all right so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► used to bite my nails and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19 ◼   ► ways i stopped was i got one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► like horrible tasting nail polish things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► same theory and yeah however the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25 ◼   ► the shortcomings of that is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26 ◼   ► would like rub off on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:29 ◼   ► preparing or like anything anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► I touched would taste horrible and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► you like handle a switch cartridge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► you can make a sandwich it like is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39 ◼   ► going to rub off at all are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► taste that so I have to say that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► the internet and I've just read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45 ◼   ► tweets so for all I know this is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47 ◼   ► false and people just got some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:50 ◼   ► foul tasting stuff on their switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:51 ◼   ► cartridges but i will say that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53 ◼   ► assuming the story is true i would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► that the coding they put in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:58 ◼   ► cartridges would have some of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00 ◼   ► problems as the nail buying stuff one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02 ◼   ► that it would eventually be able to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04 ◼   ► off or be sucked off as very determined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06 ◼   ► nail biters know well that if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08 ◼   ► if you really want to go to town you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10 ◼   ► a build up a tolerance to and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12 ◼   ► eventually remove that substance stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► it I quit with one application but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:18 ◼   ► that's how bad it was you're you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► as a terminus on some little children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23 ◼   ► yeah it I can tell you from personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:27 ◼   ► experience with people my family who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29 ◼   ► will not name who are not me that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5129">TS</a>]

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01:25:35 ◼   ► to get rid of stuff and to like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38 ◼   ► that like will it come off on your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40 ◼   ► I think it has to necessarily come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► your hands if your hands are wet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5143">TS</a>]

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01:25:46 ◼   ► when they're wet it also won't come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47 ◼   ► on your tongue on you right and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49 ◼   ► think those are real things but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51 ◼   ► hoping is that cartridges don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53 ◼   ► handled much under normal circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55 ◼   ► and the people's hands are not wet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:56 ◼   ► enough to pull off the stuff again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58 ◼   ► assuming this entire story is true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► all we know is that when any of us gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02 ◼   ► it or encounters a nintendo switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03 ◼   ► cartridge is incumbent upon us as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:06 ◼   ► of the homework for the show to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5166">TS</a>]

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01:26:14 ◼   ► you have to tips gonna want to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:15 ◼   ► that i just have to look Maya SD cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17 ◼   ► and see if that has the same coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5177">TS</a>]

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01:27:21 ◼   ► think what the thing that bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:24 ◼   ► about the iphone USBC thing is if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:27 ◼   ► USBC is on the device itself is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29 ◼   ► iphone what technical thing does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:33 ◼   ► solve like yes I understand that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35 ◼   ► a consistency with the rest of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37 ◼   ► laptop line but what does that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► do for an iphone that makes the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:42 ◼   ► itself better don't we get the advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45 ◼   ► of dedicated analog audio pins so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:48 ◼   ► we don't need the deck and the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49 ◼   ► anymore and we could have cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51 ◼   ► headphones to connect to us bc or limas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:52 ◼   ► remembering this both USBC add lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:55 ◼   ► have have ways to do that however we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:58 ◼   ► also did find that in the little apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00 ◼   ► dongle is a little tiny back because dax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► costs nothing and it's not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04 ◼   ► one but it doesn't matter for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05 ◼   ► people for what they're using it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:08 ◼   ► sorry that's a potential advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10 ◼   ► you could get if Apple decides to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11 ◼   ► advantage of it and if they're it may I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14 ◼   ► have no idea if there are any existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16 ◼   ► headphones that take analog audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:17 ◼   ► signals and have instead of a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:20 ◼   ► regular headphone jack come and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:21 ◼   ► have a USB see one but in theory that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23 ◼   ► one there's also you know techno tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26 ◼   ► buys the thing with the bendy pins that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27 ◼   ► we talked about like who knows how big a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► problem that is but it stands to reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:33 ◼   ► that it is better to have the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:36 ◼   ► eventually fatigue or bend or wear out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38 ◼   ► on the cable you can throw away and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41 ◼   ► inside the device so that's another tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:42 ◼   ► advantage yeah I guess I guess I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:45 ◼   ► there's nothing that you guys have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:48 ◼   ► or that I can think of that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:51 ◼   ► think oh this is a technical problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:52 ◼   ► that's being solved with us bc it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54 ◼   ► worth that that juice is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56 ◼   ► squeeze of pissing off the entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:59 ◼   ► for another for another cable change or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:03 ◼   ► another port don't you think you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► not agree what you both said that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:05 ◼   ► thought people will be angry but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:06 ◼   ► totally think people will be less angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08 ◼   ► than 30 pin delighting even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10 ◼   ► 30-pin was 30 10 years old I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12 ◼   ► they'll be less angry about this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13 ◼   ► it's a switch to the standard because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:16 ◼   ► yes you're going to be grumbly you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18 ◼   ► assuming though that people have us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► devices i am cheap and i don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:22 ◼   ► expensive things terribly often but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:26 ◼   ► always keep up-to-date on on iphones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:30 ◼   ► ipads whatnot and and I don't have a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:33 ◼   ► like I said the only USBC device i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:35 ◼   ► is an apple TV that I've never plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36 ◼   ► USBC into they'd be a little bit ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38 ◼   ► of the curve like I agree people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40 ◼   ► have but I think every story about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42 ◼   ► would be Apple concedes or like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:45 ◼   ► negative story you can have a apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47 ◼   ► finally concedes and does what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48 ◼   ► else does Apple finally gets in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50 ◼   ► ever finally does the industry standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52 ◼   ► thing I think that would be the negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54 ◼   ► Apple spin on these stories and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:56 ◼   ► again with the European regulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:57 ◼   ► requiring whatever was mini USB and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59 ◼   ► probably going to require us bc like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:01 ◼   ► think that's the spin on the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:03 ◼   ► yes it's like oh I don't care what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05 ◼   ► hell'd standards I got a houseful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:06 ◼   ► freaking lightning cables and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:07 ◼   ► worthless to me right like people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:08 ◼   ► be angry but I think the story will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:11 ◼   ► Apple gets in line with everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13 ◼   ► and that will soften the blow again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► think if you're going to do that though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18 ◼   ► you wait another year or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20 ◼   ► that because everyone is still sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:23 ◼   ► to this because I still within the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25 ◼   ► month have heard people whining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26 ◼   ► lightning ports and and so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:30 ◼   ► going to make this jump you make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:31 ◼   ► jump where it's when it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33 ◼   ► preposterous that Apple isn't on us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:36 ◼   ► right now I really member though do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:39 ◼   ► want the little ice yeah because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:42 ◼   ► at the thing that I can't get past is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44 ◼   ► it's not solving any technical problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46 ◼   ► that I'm aware of maybe on like an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:49 ◼   ► maybe if you wanted to plug in say an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51 ◼   ► external display which I guess you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52 ◼   ► do that with the hdmi cable on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54 ◼   ► or pad anyway I've had anyway so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56 ◼   ► I'm failing to see what technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58 ◼   ► problem that makes the iPhone itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00 ◼   ► better what technical problem are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:04 ◼   ► solving by doing this because otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:05 ◼   ► why bother well we also don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07 ◼   ► pervasive the Lightning connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:10 ◼   ► your problems are like I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:11 ◼   ► many people do we know who have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:12 ◼   ► problem I I know two people Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► Merlin right who have both had problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► with the contacts you know the bendy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20 ◼   ► little bits coming out of thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:21 ◼   ► scorching the little connectors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:23 ◼   ► believe what it marketed you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25 ◼   ► phone replaced because of that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27 ◼   ► did and then Merlin I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30 ◼   ► got anything replaced but he had like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31 ◼   ► were only the hardware virus because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:32 ◼   ► once one of the little bendy pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:35 ◼   ► metal doesn't contact with the shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37 ◼   ► gold bits on the Lightning connector and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39 ◼   ► starts arcing it can cause a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41 ◼   ► Bernie spot there and that makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:42 ◼   ► connection even worse and more working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:43 ◼   ► and so on and so forth and now you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45 ◼   ► a lightning connector that has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47 ◼   ► Bernie spot on it and if you put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:49 ◼   ► lightning connector into another device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► now you have poor contact between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► Bernie spot and the little bendy metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54 ◼   ► thing and it causes that to arc and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► it's like it's like a hardware virus as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57 ◼   ► you plug this this plug into a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00 ◼   ► other devices eventually they all get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:01 ◼   ► this little burning spot on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► place and that's bad and is this just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06 ◼   ► problem that is really rare and esoteric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08 ◼   ► and really much more much smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10 ◼   ► the grand scheme of things than Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► bad strain relief I don't know but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:14 ◼   ► know two people and it did cause a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:16 ◼   ► warranty replacement for sure and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18 ◼   ► least one of them that i think would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► fall into the category of potentially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23 ◼   ► tech problem that the USBC is solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26 ◼   ► numbers are it's hard it's hard to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:29 ◼   ► without numbers you know I guess I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► but but here again that's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33 ◼   ► solving a problem for Apple that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35 ◼   ► your average consumer even I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► really care about what Marco didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39 ◼   ► to get his phones well maybe did because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40 ◼   ► of this the microphone thing but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42 ◼   ► people don't want to have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:43 ◼   ► anything again it's not right I'm does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:45 ◼   ► USBC saw the lint problem that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47 ◼   ► sort of anecdotal thing we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48 ◼   ► numbers for but like how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50 ◼   ► have you heard about like my thing would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:51 ◼   ► in charge and I had to get out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53 ◼   ► dentist gear and start pulling out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55 ◼   ► little lint balls or cat hair from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► inside the thing or I brought to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58 ◼   ► apple store and they had to do it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► my parents have had this problem where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02 ◼   ► they had to have lint pulled out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04 ◼   ► their thing pulled out of their lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06 ◼   ► connector by like an apple store person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► right does USBC suffer from that as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:11 ◼   ► as lightning I have no idea but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13 ◼   ► another potential tech problem not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► for Apple for warranty or present people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17 ◼   ► don't want their crap to break and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:18 ◼   ► to bring it to the store either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:19 ◼   ► especially it's so hard to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21 ◼   ► appointment and it's annoying to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:22 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:23 ◼   ► I don't know I just I feel like if if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:26 ◼   ► were to wager a guess I think it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28 ◼   ► we ought our initial interpretation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:30 ◼   ► which is it's going to the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:33 ◼   ► included in the box maybe lightning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:36 ◼   ► USB see that falls down though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► of what marco was describing about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39 ◼   ► the entirety of power charging in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41 ◼   ► world is all done via USB a I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► Apple this is one of the old school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:47 ◼   ► things where I would say would Apple do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:49 ◼   ► this one hundred percent I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:50 ◼   ► believe Apple would would go lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:52 ◼   ► to USB see despite everything we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:53 ◼   ► said and we all agree on the USBA is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:56 ◼   ► more common why would Apple do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58 ◼   ► because they'd be like this is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5638">TS</a>]

01:33:59 ◼   ► connector for our stuff and our power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01 ◼   ► bricks and our computers and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03 ◼   ► we sell the other one for a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05 ◼   ► price so buy more peripherals from us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:06 ◼   ► and you know buy more adapters and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08 ◼   ► fine i 100% believe Apple to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:11 ◼   ► it's just hard to sell tell from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13 ◼   ► rumor and speaking of hardware virus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15 ◼   ► hope this rumor is a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17 ◼   ► hardware virus and that even as if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:20 ◼   ► is either doing the boring thing or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► doing anything and they just come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:23 ◼   ► plain old USB a to lightning connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25 ◼   ► like every other thing the fact of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:27 ◼   ► story is out there that I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29 ◼   ► every tech site and the wall street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:30 ◼   ► journal in podcast and everybody are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► talking about it and it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35 ◼   ► collectively slowly convincing ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:36 ◼   ► to this would be a good idea it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38 ◼   ► great if somewhere it out there like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:40 ◼   ► Wall Street Journal that's not what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42 ◼   ► were supposed to be leaking at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44 ◼   ► just a bit too much the other end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:45 ◼   ► cake and then come the time when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47 ◼   ► the new iphone is released we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48 ◼   ► disappointed that it doesn't have USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50 ◼   ► see Apple be like that wouldn't away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:51 ◼   ► from us so it's like a hardware mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53 ◼   ► virus Wow yeah I don't know what to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:56 ◼   ► of it like it wouldn't entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58 ◼   ► surprised me at the phone itself had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00 ◼   ► USBC port on it but I just I keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02 ◼   ► back to and I can't get past what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04 ◼   ► really doing for the device like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07 ◼   ► what problem is that solving for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:09 ◼   ► device I'm not saying there isn't one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11 ◼   ► it's making a lot of things more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:12 ◼   ► convenient and in in the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14 ◼   ► likely future that we're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16 ◼   ► because you know android is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:19 ◼   ► doing this so we're going to have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:20 ◼   ► these USBC cables out there in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:21 ◼   ► it's going to be very very convenient if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:24 ◼   ► we also if we not only can just have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:26 ◼   ► cable but then you can plug in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:27 ◼   ► iphone to any of these things anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29 ◼   ► that's going to be incredibly it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31 ◼   ► keeping it for just people who travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► with an iphone and the laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:36 ◼   ► you can have one charger that you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38 ◼   ► of switch between them as needed or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40 ◼   ► can swap cables between them if what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42 ◼   ► you forget one of the cables or one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:43 ◼   ► them goes bad or you only have one long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:46 ◼   ► table and one short cable and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48 ◼   ► to flip where they are for a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49 ◼   ► arrangement that you have when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:50 ◼   ► traveling or something like there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52 ◼   ► sorts of like everyday practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:54 ◼   ► advantages that this could bring in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:57 ◼   ► world where everything else is us bc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► i think it's very clear we are heading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00 ◼   ► towards that world like the rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02 ◼   ► everything else is USBC that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04 ◼   ► Apple is leading the charge with the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07 ◼   ► like so that's obviously happening it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:10 ◼   ► here like if you've bought a new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12 ◼   ► pro in the last five months you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:16 ◼   ► are in this world at least partially and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:17 ◼   ► as they update the imax hopefully in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:19 ◼   ► few weeks and everything else like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:21 ◼   ► know over the next couple years like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23 ◼   ► you buy a new mac it is almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:25 ◼   ► going to be all USB see so again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:28 ◼   ► this world is here this is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:31 ◼   ► this is already a thing there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:33 ◼   ► sorts of great accessories for us bc now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:36 ◼   ► like think of all the all that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38 ◼   ► standard you know just how like iOS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40 ◼   ► had support for standard USB devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:42 ◼   ► like like standard hid things standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:45 ◼   ► sound devices things that without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:46 ◼   ► drivers or anything for a long time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48 ◼   ► but in order to plug them in you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:49 ◼   ► get one of those like lightning to USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:50 ◼   ► camera connection kit adapters and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:53 ◼   ► would actually allow the phone to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55 ◼   ► like a standard port that is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:58 ◼   ► there that can support a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00 ◼   ► new devices that can make you feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02 ◼   ► useful in certain like specialized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04 ◼   ► scenarios so there's like there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:05 ◼   ► everyday practicality of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:06 ◼   ► different charge cables that are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:08 ◼   ► to be everywhere there's carrying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:09 ◼   ► with you in a bag full of a USBC laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:12 ◼   ► with all the USBC cables you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13 ◼   ► have for that not having to have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:14 ◼   ► separate sets of cables with difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:15 ◼   ► in two connectors and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17 ◼   ► just tons of everyday practicality plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19 ◼   ► all this edge case power that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21 ◼   ► have by having this device be a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24 ◼   ► of the USBC ecosystem a first class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26 ◼   ► member have it be a USBC host device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:28 ◼   ► that can have other USBC things put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30 ◼   ► it and have that just work in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:32 ◼   ► to being charged and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► eventually have Thunderbolt 3 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:35 ◼   ► Thunderbolt 7 on your phone's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37 ◼   ► maybe I mean they probably they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39 ◼   ► probably even need that because USB 3 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41 ◼   ► already really fast for most things a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43 ◼   ► phone would be transferring over an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:44 ◼   ► external bus you would do it for a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46 ◼   ► outline on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:47 ◼   ► the 27 inch iPad pro so you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:49 ◼   ► two of them next to each other actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:51 ◼   ► it's pretty cool but yeah yeah and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:53 ◼   ► and then I'll also think of the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:54 ◼   ► we're like if they want to bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56 ◼   ► ipad forward in a big way one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► ways to do that would be to give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5878">TS</a>]

01:37:59 ◼   ► USB port of some of some kind and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:02 ◼   ► course these days that would be a USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► port and if you have that why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05 ◼   ► keep lightning there and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:06 ◼   ► getting rid of lightning there might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:08 ◼   ► well also get lightning on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10 ◼   ► also be a lot more comfortable with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► European Union in the process so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15 ◼   ► lots of reasons to do it and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:18 ◼   ► Casey so you know as and I think the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20 ◼   ► of us who's who's most cool on this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22 ◼   ► would you at least agree that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:25 ◼   ► were starting clean today with no with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27 ◼   ► no legacy baggage would USBC be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29 ◼   ► right choice Oh without question and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:33 ◼   ► know sitting here thinking about it um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:35 ◼   ► I feel like the only way this makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:40 ◼   ► that this feels better to me is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:43 ◼   ► inductive charging really is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:45 ◼   ► right because although i plug in phone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48 ◼   ► constantly because i'm a developer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50 ◼   ► like Aaron for example she the only time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:54 ◼   ► she ever plugs her phone into anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:55 ◼   ► it's just the wall to charge it and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5935">TS</a>]

01:39:00 ◼   ► it would be kind of a pain in the butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:01 ◼   ► if she had to bring her like charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:03 ◼   ► pad everywhere she goes in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05 ◼   ► charge your phone but that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08 ◼   ► sting a little bit less I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:11 ◼   ► don't know why maybe now that I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12 ◼   ► that out loud it seems bananas to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14 ◼   ► because it's really no different because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16 ◼   ► you know if it's USB see them then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:18 ◼   ► would have to bring that specific USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:20 ◼   ► cable because it would be the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21 ◼   ► in the house but if it's an inductive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23 ◼   ► charging pad suddenly that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:25 ◼   ► because I don't know why but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:26 ◼   ► feels better to me even though I admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:29 ◼   ► that that makes no sense so maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:32 ◼   ► that's the fix is inductive charging is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► the thing since it's wireless and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36 ◼   ► hates wires and you know USBC for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:39 ◼   ► you know Apple TV style if you need it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41 ◼   ► don't know I I think that's a charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:44 ◼   ► is probably a separate thing like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► the kind of thing where like if it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48 ◼   ► makes sense to do in an iphone which so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:51 ◼   ► far it seems like the the uses that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► been out there in the world so far have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55 ◼   ► not been very compelling for lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:57 ◼   ► different reasons some of which seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:59 ◼   ► insurmountable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► we'll see if that ever changes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03 ◼   ► things like the horrible efficiency of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05 ◼   ► it and the incredible close proximity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:08 ◼   ► need to have to the charging device but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:11 ◼   ► anyway or the pad whatever it is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13 ◼   ► see this is separate things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:15 ◼   ► like you know it's it's very high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:17 ◼   ► even like Apple I said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19 ◼   ► multiplication i think phil has it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:20 ◼   ► a few comments to this degree you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22 ◼   ► you have a wire you can plug this into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24 ◼   ► charge it's no big deal like wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26 ◼   ► charging sounds great if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28 ◼   ► like oh I could just walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:29 ◼   ► everywhere my whole house my whole work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31 ◼   ► my the whole world outside maybe and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:34 ◼   ► phone just always charged from the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:36 ◼   ► but that probably isn't what it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:38 ◼   ► it would probably be like you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► these wireless charging pads like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43 ◼   ► your desk and stuff like that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:44 ◼   ► much better than a cable oh that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:46 ◼   ► it's pretty pretty better than a cable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► think i think if you just have think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50 ◼   ► the area in everybody's house where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:52 ◼   ► dump all their devices to charge in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:53 ◼   ► rat's nest of wires that they have there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55 ◼   ► if there was just a nice pad and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:57 ◼   ► just pile things on top of it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:58 ◼   ► assuming they just go with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► inductive charging with this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:01 ◼   ► thing if they go with the what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03 ◼   ► company called the wasn't Steve Pearlman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05 ◼   ► the onlive guy I forget anyway the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:08 ◼   ► beamforming when I kind of tech that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10 ◼   ► could be used to deliver power P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12 ◼   ► something that's the thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14 ◼   ► talking to said I'm wandering around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:15 ◼   ► house when my thing is charging and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17 ◼   ► is way way way slower but even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:20 ◼   ► just like within the same room like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:21 ◼   ► imagine putting your phone on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23 ◼   ► nightstand to charge at night but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:25 ◼   ► plugging it in and not having to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27 ◼   ► on a pad and not having your brain Sully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29 ◼   ► microwave by the thing that's near yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31 ◼   ► that's a little concerning to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33 ◼   ► and then my phones you can scratch it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35 ◼   ► the by my nightstand like I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:37 ◼   ► little dock it's great see I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39 ◼   ► think the real reason why dog industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► yeah yeah I know I think the real reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43 ◼   ► why Apple is going to switch the USBC on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45 ◼   ► the phone is that I just got these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48 ◼   ► awesome studio need docs for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:50 ◼   ► and they're really nice so now whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:52 ◼   ► i buy new docks last time when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54 ◼   ► change the Lightning was right after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:55 ◼   ► bought the elevation dock and so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► that i bought new docks finally i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00 ◼   ► finally replaced my elevation docks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:01 ◼   ► after five years or what however long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03 ◼   ► it's been now Apple is going to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:06 ◼   ► away from lightning and maybe buy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► new docks well the good news for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:10 ◼   ► Kickstarter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► iOS device Doc's made of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:15 ◼   ► fancy burled walnut and all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17 ◼   ► other things I have the good news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19 ◼   ► that once wireless charging is here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21 ◼   ► can still sell those same docs it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:22 ◼   ► easier because they don't have to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24 ◼   ► charge it's just basically like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26 ◼   ► stand for your phone like a little home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► for it just it props it up and makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30 ◼   ► look cute because in the end I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33 ◼   ► know you think that IO is a charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:34 ◼   ► dock it's very important that it charted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36 ◼   ► in the end it's a little stand for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► phone it's a nice stand for my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► know I'm just saying like that industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:43 ◼   ► will not be decimated by wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:44 ◼   ► charging in fact that industry will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46 ◼   ► freed from having to worry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► silly electronics and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49 ◼   ► concentrate where they really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:50 ◼   ► which is fine materials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:53 ◼   ► craftsmanship and so on and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55 ◼   ► you can use all the money you're saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:56 ◼   ► by not buying two sets of cables for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58 ◼   ► everything and just dump it all into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6178">TS</a>]

01:42:59 ◼   ► docs that's right yea Bwana made from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:01 ◼   ► what is your little heavy cylinder made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03 ◼   ► out of tungsten tungsten yeah thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:07 ◼   ► our three sponsors this week Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:08 ◼   ► betterment and square space and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:10 ◼   ► see you next week now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:16 ◼   ► they didn't even mean to begin as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:20 ◼   ► accidental oh it was accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:25 ◼   ► didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:29 ◼   ► him cuz it was accidental and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:33 ◼   ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:37 ◼   ► notes at adp FM and if more into twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:42 ◼   ► you can follow them at cas eyl ISS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:50 ◼   ► that's Casey list and a our CEO a RM can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6230">TS</a>]

01:43:54 ◼   ► t marco arment SI r kc us a Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6234">TS</a>]

01:44:13 ◼   ► ah what is going on my mouse every great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:16 ◼   ► once in a while this happens my beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18 ◼   ► magic mouse is like lagging to hell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:21 ◼   ► it just just wants to be harpooned yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23 ◼   ► it happens to me too you see me tweeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25 ◼   ► about that a few days ago oh yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:27 ◼   ► right i never i don't think i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:29 ◼   ► told you it never happens to me in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:30 ◼   ► but I lied I'm a darn dirty liar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33 ◼   ► that just happened to me and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► the first time it's happened it appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36 ◼   ► to happen to everybody who has any apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:40 ◼   ► bluetooth pointing device it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42 ◼   ► the track pads and the mice it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:44 ◼   ► to the old mice that use double a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:45 ◼   ► batteries and the new one that have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► rechargeable harpoon thing it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49 ◼   ► whether you're at a high battery level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:50 ◼   ► or a low battery level there seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:53 ◼   ► very little correlation to any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:55 ◼   ► factors it just seems to happen to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:57 ◼   ► of apple bluetooth devices so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59 ◼   ► probably an issue with either all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01 ◼   ► Bluetooth devices or at least apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:04 ◼   ► Bluetooth devices doesn't happen to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► wired keyboard or my wired logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08 ◼   ► mouse from 1992 oh you're so old never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:12 ◼   ► doesn't stutter doesn't need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14 ◼   ► recharged now I the mac pro that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:17 ◼   ► have i'm pretty sure bluetooth was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:18 ◼   ► optional do you have bluetooth on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:21 ◼   ► don't know let's go find out I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:24 ◼   ► was like I think it was like a 60-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:25 ◼   ► option turn bluetooth on there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28 ◼   ► button that says that i think i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30 ◼   ► click it it is currently off so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31 ◼   ► gonna sue my head oh yeah the poor me do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:33 ◼   ► you have it I did not get the Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35 ◼   ► option on this by the way he s I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► thinking of so my mac does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39 ◼   ► Wi-Fi maybe on I wonder if the 2006 Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:43 ◼   ► Pro maybe Bluetooth option on that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:44 ◼   ► and maybe there's only Wi-Fi on yours it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46 ◼   ► might have an optional mine I might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48 ◼   ► I might have checked the bluetooth boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:49 ◼   ► and I'm like maybe I'll get bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:50 ◼   ► peripherals Here I am eight years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52 ◼   ► still no bluetooth peripherals hey what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► else there to talk about you talk more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► about the mac pro if you want hard pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:01 ◼   ► and I gotta get mean Tim Cook said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:03 ◼   ► nothing again yeah that's why that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:05 ◼   ► it's not you know this is not even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:07 ◼   ► the topic this because there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:09 ◼   ► to discuss cuz there was nothing said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:11 ◼   ► well I'll give my two cents that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► already gave and slacked it to put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:15 ◼   ► one to bed it's uh he was asked in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:18 ◼   ► shareholders meeting about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20 ◼   ► pro hardware and all the stuff we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:21 ◼   ► whine about and he gave the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23 ◼   ► non-committal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:24 ◼   ► like oh you know where we have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26 ◼   ► coming for pros and we do care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:28 ◼   ► them despite all our actions to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:30 ◼   ► contrary but he didn't say I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► sarcastic man but anyway he gave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:32 ◼   ► same kind of an answer he did last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:34 ◼   ► that we talked about the lettuce to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:35 ◼   ► believe that an imac pro is coming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37 ◼   ► something and there was some discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:39 ◼   ► about like all right it what's so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:41 ◼   ► about this like in the hierarchy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6401">TS</a>]

01:46:43 ◼   ► things that Tim Cook could have said or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:45 ◼   ► done in relation to that where does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47 ◼   ► fall and I feel like saying nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49 ◼   ► would have still been worse it's I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:52 ◼   ► like at this point it when there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:53 ◼   ► problem that a bunch of people see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6413">TS</a>]

01:46:55 ◼   ► some people are cranky about pro mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:56 ◼   ► hardware right saying nothing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:59 ◼   ► worst choice because that's just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01 ◼   ► just makes people angry it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:02 ◼   ► ignoring them or you're bearing that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:03 ◼   ► the same people want some kind of answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► saying something boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:07 ◼   ► non-committal and vague that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:08 ◼   ► like Apple saying we think we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► something for you is better than nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13 ◼   ► because at the very least it says all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:15 ◼   ► right well this whether Apple whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6435">TS</a>]

01:47:17 ◼   ► it's true or not Apple thinks they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6437">TS</a>]

01:47:20 ◼   ► something that we're going to like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:21 ◼   ► the future and you know that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:23 ◼   ► vague but like it strings us along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:26 ◼   ► then I feel like the best thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:29 ◼   ► could have done is give a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:31 ◼   ► definitive answer that acknowledges the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:34 ◼   ► acknowledges the issue and then comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36 ◼   ► a conclusion and so that could be we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:39 ◼   ► hear your concerns what we've decided we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► don't want to be in the pearl hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:42 ◼   ► business anymore perfectly valid it puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:44 ◼   ► a lot end to all of our whining right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45 ◼   ► look is like well what's done is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47 ◼   ► you know we can yell them about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:49 ◼   ► least we have a definitive answer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:50 ◼   ► they could say we've heard your concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52 ◼   ► we realize who dropped the ball but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54 ◼   ► are going to rededicate ourselves to pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:56 ◼   ► hardware they didn't say that either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58 ◼   ► we get that we get the middle one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► vague answer that tells us nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:01 ◼   ► there's still better than nothing but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:03 ◼   ► still much worse than Apple definitively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:06 ◼   ► coming down in one direction or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:07 ◼   ► they don't have to announce new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:09 ◼   ► they don't have to promise them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:10 ◼   ► could have said you know they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12 ◼   ► acknowledge the situation say we realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14 ◼   ► we've dropped the ball and either but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:17 ◼   ► we've decided together this market or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:19 ◼   ► are going to rededicate ourselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:21 ◼   ► they didn't do either one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:22 ◼   ► things so it's business as usual I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:24 ◼   ► you and I just have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► definitions of what nothing means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► think he didn't say nothing I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:30 ◼   ► did say nothing but well not because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► I by not by not saying like we're sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:37 ◼   ► you feel that like remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:38 ◼   ► Final Cut Pro 10 thing what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40 ◼   ► basically said with that was like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► sorry you feel this way big Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43 ◼   ► Pro 10 is the future get used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:44 ◼   ► right so instead of saying we're sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46 ◼   ► you're sad about the pearl hardware but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► we're not doing that anymore get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:49 ◼   ► it like but like what that what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► trying to say what he tries to say every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53 ◼   ► time in this vague thing is like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► you're sad now and I will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► acknowledge that your sadness is founded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6538">TS</a>]

01:48:59 ◼   ► in anything I know you're sad now but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► have some really great stuff coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► the future and he always says that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:06 ◼   ► Tim it's a Tim Cook ism to say boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:09 ◼   ► have a great road map we have great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:11 ◼   ► things coming and he says it frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:13 ◼   ► in earnings calls for years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:15 ◼   ► he's been saying in earnings calls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:16 ◼   ► if you look back on those earring calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:18 ◼   ► and you try to say three years ago when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20 ◼   ► he said that on the earnings call what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► was he talking about what product was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24 ◼   ► he's always so jazzed he's like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26 ◼   ► some great things coming we have amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► product line I think you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29 ◼   ► super duper impressed and we get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:30 ◼   ► excited and then if you go forward three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:32 ◼   ► years like when he said that what was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34 ◼   ► even talking about like was he talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:36 ◼   ► about the watch or was that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:38 ◼   ► like the new retina iPad Mini it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40 ◼   ► can't even tell what he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:41 ◼   ► about even after the fact but he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:43 ◼   ► says like hang in there guys just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:47 ◼   ► because you don't know that we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:48 ◼   ► do a thing trust me in the future we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:50 ◼   ► gonna do a thing and you're gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:52 ◼   ► it and I think that is materially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6592">TS</a>]

01:49:53 ◼   ► different than literally saying nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:55 ◼   ► like you know not answering the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:57 ◼   ► and it is also different than then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6597">TS</a>]

01:49:59 ◼   ► actually definitively saying they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:01 ◼   ► aren't going to going to rededicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:03 ◼   ► themselves to the pro market let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:05 ◼   ► it's because you can't associate what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6605">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► says anything even after the fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:10 ◼   ► basically means nothing because it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:13 ◼   ► you can apply his words to whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:16 ◼   ► want them to be and he knows that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:19 ◼   ► it that it's a non-committal statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:21 ◼   ► so if he says we have great things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:23 ◼   ► the pipe and it isn't at all what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► want then by that's hot but then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:27 ◼   ► you know when later comes and the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► things they release aren't what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:30 ◼   ► what it doesn't invalidate what he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:33 ◼   ► it just then then they're just a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:35 ◼   ► excusive well they made something new it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37 ◼   ► just wasn't for you they know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:39 ◼   ► fuck all right but what if they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► made another thing that they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:42 ◼   ► pretended was her pro people they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:44 ◼   ► made an imac pro like because then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:46 ◼   ► could call him on it but by him saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:48 ◼   ► this it's it's clear that Apple thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:50 ◼   ► they have something that propia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:51 ◼   ► like they may be wrong no it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► past but at the very least I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:56 ◼   ► this says is is them saying we are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:59 ◼   ► to release a new mac that we think will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:01 ◼   ► appeal to pros and all of us can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:02 ◼   ► cynically well you're probably wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:04 ◼   ► they probably won't appeal to pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:05 ◼   ► because you wrote your track record here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:07 ◼   ► is crap but at least you think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:09 ◼   ► something a little appeals to pros which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:11 ◼   ► is more substantive than just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:12 ◼   ► vague we have something coming I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6672">TS</a>]

01:51:15 ◼   ► eventually build up to the point like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:17 ◼   ► did right before the trashcan we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:18 ◼   ► that point they were like stay tuned for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6678">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► exciting new Pro hardware which we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:26 ◼   ► thought was going to be in a mac pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:27 ◼   ► totally was a new mac pro and so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:29 ◼   ► see if that it builds to that but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31 ◼   ► like what Tim Cook is saying on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:33 ◼   ► harbourfront here's like we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► introduce a product that we think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36 ◼   ► who like the old Mac Pro will like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38 ◼   ► we probably won't because it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:40 ◼   ► online I pro but whatever that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:42 ◼   ► think is coming that is even what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:43 ◼   ► said it like what he said was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► know things for like pro markets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47 ◼   ► especially creative pros you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:50 ◼   ► Apple pitches for creative pros the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:52 ◼   ► pro and the macbook pro everything Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:55 ◼   ► Cook said could be just in reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:57 ◼   ► the updated imax and iPad pros they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6717">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► gonna launch in two weeks or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:01 ◼   ► is like that like that something like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:03 ◼   ► doesn't mean anything I don't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:05 ◼   ► about that all right so if those are set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► like if if in a year there's been no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:10 ◼   ► motion on anything that Apple's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:13 ◼   ► pitching as a Mac made for pros I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:16 ◼   ► people will be angry and they'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:18 ◼   ► back at Cinco can say you didn't deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:20 ◼   ► on those things as opposed to his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► we have this great road maps the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23 ◼   ► is we could cite well they did release a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25 ◼   ► lot of cool stuff and any of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► could have applied we just can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28 ◼   ► what the hell he was talking about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:29 ◼   ► it's not as if they didn't deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:30 ◼   ► because every year Apple releases great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:32 ◼   ► new stuff somewhere it's just never to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6752">TS</a>]

01:52:34 ◼   ► stop max right so I I think that if know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:38 ◼   ► if it really is just like the new iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40 ◼   ► people will be like well that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:42 ◼   ► we thought you were talking about it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6762">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► and they'll be pissed about and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:44 ◼   ► come back even angrier with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► question whereas if Apple releases an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47 ◼   ► imac pro people like oh all right well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50 ◼   ► guess this is what he was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:51 ◼   ► but surprise were not happy because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:53 ◼   ► wanted a better Mac Pro my concern with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:56 ◼   ► with cooks remarks in this area and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:59 ◼   ► the resulting products that come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► Apple is that especially because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:03 ◼   ► specifically called out he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:05 ◼   ► he's someone ones like you know cruisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07 ◼   ► especially creative pros and they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:10 ◼   ► referring to a creative force created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:12 ◼   ► for is it seems like apples image of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:15 ◼   ► what a creative pro is is somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:18 ◼   ► drawing with the pencil on an iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:21 ◼   ► that's one type of creative pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:24 ◼   ► that's a very very small percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:27 ◼   ► them and that's also an like creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:30 ◼   ► pros aren't all pros and Apple used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:34 ◼   ► really own the market for so many kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:38 ◼   ► of pros they've really owned those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:40 ◼   ► markets so well for such a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:42 ◼   ► it seems like all the market share that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:47 ◼   ► they've like shaved off in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:48 ◼   ► by just neglect or cutting off support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:51 ◼   ► or cutting off product lines or features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:52 ◼   ► or whatever else are almost all like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:56 ◼   ► Pro users that had it you know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58 ◼   ► complex or higher end needs than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:01 ◼   ► somebody drawing on an iPad and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:03 ◼   ► doesn't seem like it seems like Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6843">TS</a>]

01:54:06 ◼   ► Cook's Apple just either doesn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:09 ◼   ► about the other kinds of pro work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:11 ◼   ► needs that are out there or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:14 ◼   ► fundamentally don't understand it both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► of which are scary possibilities to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:18 ◼   ► but I think it's very clear that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6858">TS</a>]

01:54:20 ◼   ► least one of those is true just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:22 ◼   ► mkbhd video where he was complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:24 ◼   ► about his mac pro you guys yeah I'd is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:28 ◼   ► basically saying like he's he's got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:29 ◼   ► the old 12-core trashcan Mac Pro the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:32 ◼   ► / current current yes the one you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:34 ◼   ► still buy for like a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:35 ◼   ► and he uses Final Cut Pro to edit his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6875">TS</a>]

01:54:38 ◼   ► videos and what he was basically saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:40 ◼   ► is like people like why you even used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:41 ◼   ► that crappy old Mac why'd you get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:43 ◼   ► fancy PC it was like well I like Final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:45 ◼   ► Cut for video editing I'm sure it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:46 ◼   ► he's used to and he's like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:47 ◼   ► plugged into the Final Cut that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:48 ◼   ► available elsewhere and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:50 ◼   ► forth I think that's a good canary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:53 ◼   ► whole Final Cut Pro think so aperture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55 ◼   ► gone right Final Cut Pro is kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:59 ◼   ► last bastion of proneness like the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:04 ◼   ► market right and it is currently being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:07 ◼   ► woefully under served by their the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6907">TS</a>]

01:55:10 ◼   ► current trashcan and anything else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:11 ◼   ► feel like I mean maybe maybe I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6911">TS</a>]

01:55:13 ◼   ► maybe people are editing entire movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6913">TS</a>]

01:55:15 ◼   ► on their macbook once and I'm just silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:17 ◼   ► for thinking this but whatever mkbhd who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:19 ◼   ► does video for a living wants his mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6919">TS</a>]

01:55:21 ◼   ► pro maybe it's just cuz he's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6921">TS</a>]

01:55:22 ◼   ► computer gear head like we are no no he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:26 ◼   ► actually needs it yeah but and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29 ◼   ► that even despite that 12 core being old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:30 ◼   ► and creaky that he does still get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:33 ◼   ► performance than he would with adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:34 ◼   ► premiere which is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6934">TS</a>]

01:55:35 ◼   ► apples-to-apples comparison obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:36 ◼   ► that he does on a dormir on a fancy pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:39 ◼   ► but up you know bomb eyes he just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6939">TS</a>]

01:55:41 ◼   ► Final Cut right if they drop final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6941">TS</a>]

01:55:44 ◼   ► if they stop making it in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:45 ◼   ► they stopped making aperture that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6945">TS</a>]

01:55:48 ◼   ► be an extremely strong signal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:50 ◼   ► you're right Marco like what's left is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:52 ◼   ► it just people making artisanal sketches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:55 ◼   ► on virtual napkins is that it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:56 ◼   ► the only creative probe is even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58 ◼   ► real creator pro CD is freaking Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59 ◼   ► Illustrator like let's give your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:01 ◼   ► photoshop and illustrator is what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:02 ◼   ► need to use to do their jobs and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:04 ◼   ► know maybe like a page layout type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:06 ◼   ► thing creative professionals like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:09 ◼   ► they say that i would think of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6969">TS</a>]

01:56:11 ◼   ► like aperture hope not there anymore or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:13 ◼   ► lightroom because that's a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:14 ◼   ► application to write or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:17 ◼   ► Final Cut and premiere and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6977">TS</a>]

01:56:19 ◼   ► markets like we again we've complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:21 ◼   ► about so we get all of emails as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:22 ◼   ► self-selecting people saying I work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24 ◼   ► this industry and I've watched my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26 ◼   ► industry dump max as soon as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:27 ◼   ► switch all 2pcs because they realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:29 ◼   ► that but doesn't care about them Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6989">TS</a>]

01:56:31 ◼   ► makes final cut it's their own program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6991">TS</a>]

01:56:33 ◼   ► presumably there is a team working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:34 ◼   ► right and they put a lot of effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:36 ◼   ► the Final Cut Pro 10 being a big leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38 ◼   ► over the other one and endured all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:40 ◼   ► problems with that program and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:41 ◼   ► like like they as a company seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:44 ◼   ► dedicated to resourcing and believing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:46 ◼   ► that product in the same way that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:48 ◼   ► to for aperture I suppose if they drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7008">TS</a>]

01:56:50 ◼   ► that then it will really be like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7010">TS</a>]

01:56:52 ◼   ► Jim stop talking about professionals of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:56 ◼   ► any kind creative or otherwise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7016">TS</a>]

01:56:58 ◼   ► what the hell by the way on this mkbhd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7018">TS</a>]

01:57:02 ◼   ► video you know what he says right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:04 ◼   ► new Mac Pro obvious at my USB see ya yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7024">TS</a>]

01:57:07 ◼   ► well it's in the news it isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7027">TS</a>]

01:57:09 ◼   ► Newsies reading the same stories we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:11 ◼   ► they up me wants us bc everywhere he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7031">TS</a>]

01:57:13 ◼   ► so much cooler than us that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7033">TS</a>]

01:57:16 ◼   ► pretty low bar I don't know he's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:18 ◼   ► nerdy and you think he's cooler cuz he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:20 ◼   ► young and handsome but he's pretty nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7040">TS</a>]

01:57:22 ◼   ► no I think I'm pretty sure he's cooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24 ◼   ► than us yeah I'm pretty sure he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:26 ◼   ► considerate guy says it's a it's a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:28 ◼   ► bar is he's cooler than Casey let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:30 ◼   ► well I don't know that's also a low bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:32 ◼   ► that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:32 ◼   ► if that's very flattering complimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:33 ◼   ► of you trying to try to put the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7053">TS</a>]

01:57:35 ◼   ► coolest among us to try to see if we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:38 ◼   ► we can reach up the lever I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:40 ◼   ► coolest among is definitely Casey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7060">TS</a>]

01:57:42 ◼   ► sorry Casey I think he's cool with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:44 ◼   ► so I think therefore that solves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:46 ◼   ► solves the question right there I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:48 ◼   ► I guess you're right maybe if we can if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:50 ◼   ► we combine all three of our coolness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:52 ◼   ► then maybe we can maybe maybe all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7072">TS</a>]

01:57:55 ◼   ► combined like Voltron it would still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7075">TS</a>]

01:57:58 ◼   ► I think it would still be a fight anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7078">TS</a>]

01:58:00 ◼   ► coolest counts for nothing in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:01 ◼   ► industry witness Bill Gates Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7081">TS</a>]

01:58:06 ◼   ► Wozniak andy hertzfeld Bill Atkinson not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:10 ◼   ► cool people they're cooling the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:12 ◼   ► way Bill Gates is cool in no ways but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:16 ◼   ► is the is the antimatter of cool curing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7096">TS</a>]

01:58:20 ◼   ► malaria not kids not carrying it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:23 ◼   ► know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdScWDLg/7103">TS</a>]