00:00:00 ◼ ► did you watch the Oscars I watched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► end of the Oscars so I caught right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► the end so you were watching live you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► were watching live when it happened yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► we were not I've kind of given up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► award shows i find it took just two too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► damn tedious and so but i got a news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► alert from the new york times and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► immediately switched over and quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► rewound watch it but it's so totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► different knowing you know like the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► alert was like holy hell they announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► the wrong winner of the best picture go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► watch this fiasco live you know whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► if you're watching live it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► more of what the hell is going on yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► it was very unscripted so the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► thing is of course I was driving home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► from Canada so when I say watching live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► what I really mean was I had my iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► open and i was listening to it um so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► didn't see the facial expressions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► everybody was talking abou i just heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► this long really awkward pause and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/53">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► shuffling in the microphone and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/59">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► that doesn't that's not usually how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► build suspense it's not like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► shuffle shuffle shuffle everything's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► know everything's fine here we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► fine how are you uh yeah it was just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► was odd and then the resulting commotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► I I almost like I didn't pull over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► car but I almost wanted to pull over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► car and be like I actually want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► ridiculous so I didn't actually get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► watch the video of it until I got home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► um in front of you know and probably i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► don't think the net until the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► sitting down in front of my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► being like okay what actually happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► watching like Warren Beatty just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► completely confounded and and feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► ah let's uh let's maybe not announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/110">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► this and then Eifert ol alright don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► know presenter fade runway there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► for somewhere her name wasn't coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► me but yeah Faye Dunaway just being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► all right it's lala land and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/126">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► made a huge risk right I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► we should have done that right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► exactly even though it's live TV but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► show must go on right and which I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► it it's funny too because it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► memory and I guess I don't really watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► award shows anymore but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► that in my mind that the Oscars is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► one that's only that that's most bragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► over the years about the the fidelity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► the vote counting process and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► secrecy and and you know the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/156">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► partnership with Price Waterhouse or now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► it's PricewaterhouseCoopers you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► give a special briefcase right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► the two briefcase carriers have become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► became even before wait before there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► now they're much better known but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► were part of the red carpet ceremony you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► know where they're dressed up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/180">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► they're there they're ostentatiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► bringing you know they're carrying these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► briefcases full of the the winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► envelopes that they're the what the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► that you know like other World War chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► I don't remember that you know any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► kind of exposure to the integrity of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► process know exactly i mean the golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► it's also the history of the awards show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► right where you look at the Golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/205">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► Globes and you look at the Emmys and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► a much lesser extent the tonys the tonys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► especially if you look at the Golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► Globes in the Emmys they're very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► more of a like let's sit down and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► boozy lunch and acknowledge that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► are probably you know probably uh win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► awards that are won by massive marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► campaigns but also let's feel good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► ourselves whereas the Oscars for as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► as I've been alive and much more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► that was raised as the like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► pinnacle of you know achievement as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► actor or an actress or a director and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► you know once you're recognized at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► Oscars then you have become a legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► star and that was the thing it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► you want it you want to become big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► have to get an Academy Award nomination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► forget the Golden Globes or the Emmys or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► anything you know along those lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► those don't matter as much as the as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► Oscars because the Oscars are voted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► by us and we you know we have this proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► like you said pricewaterhousecoopers I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► accounting firm I knew by name growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► up you know you don't you when you asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► little kids like seven year olds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► how many accounting firms can you name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and i'm pretty sure that at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► growing up in LA the only thing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► would have been able to like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► PricewaterhouseCoopers they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► Oscars like they're the people who look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► a little bit nerdy in really fancy suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► and dresses holding giant on for giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► briefcases that remind you of nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► football they take care of us they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► sure that the integrity of the Oscar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► stays intact dammit hey guys remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► let me let me take a moment here and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► double-check that we're okay here can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► you can you double check that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► using the right Mike in Scott yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► absolutely can because like you sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► pretty good but you sound ever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► slightly tinny is that good can you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► me tapping on that yeah yes yeah are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► sorry I'm using the right microphone are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► you good alright i just want okay but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► figured out why hold on i'm using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► right microphone but the wrong side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► it oh now you sound much better yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► okay well now now we've proven that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► podcasting onna this afternoon yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► we're done shows done show's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► everybody it's not all island shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► that's good i'm glad i definitely don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► want to sound tinny on the talk show uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► that's so funny i'm so glad I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/357">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► something now rather than two hours from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/361">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► interesting because it really was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► worst possible it was biggest award what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► side of the night and it couldn't cut to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► commercial and it's like no offense no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► offense at all to the nominees for best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► sound editing because it is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the biggest award that they can win and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► I understand that these are professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► like in a way that like you and I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► in a niche area of journalism right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► I understand what that's like a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► Europe they're obsessed with sound that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► embarrassment that it would have caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► if the same mistake it happened two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► hours earlier when the best sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► editing award was given out but it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► have been so much less publicity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► next day right yeah you wouldn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► also honestly the best the winner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► best sound editing chances are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► would have gotten up and then before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► reading their speech they probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► have looked down at the card and been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► like hmm this has nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► sound editing right although maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► wouldn't because as right the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► article you were sharing with me earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► about typography once I got a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► look at the the winner cards that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► were distributing who puts the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► the category in 10 point font at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► bottom of a card like that yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► would have been the other thing if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► same mistake had been made with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► earlier award it's also possible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► the the person reading it wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► made the mistake of reading it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► part of what made the the series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► unfortunate events that made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► possible is that the name of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► of the previous winner what happened is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/461">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► it for anybody who isn't sure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► details of this the second to last award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► was given for Best Actress and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► Emma Stone in the movie lalaland and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► they keep two copies of these cards on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► both sides of the stage and when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/475">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► came out when he was supposed to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► him the last card of the night he gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Warren Beatty the second-to-last which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► was the one that was just announced so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► the second-to-last award was for Emma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► Stone lala land and he gave Warren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► Beatty a card that said the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► thing but it just so happened that lala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► land was one of the nominees for Best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► Picture and was highly favored to win it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► so it was no surprise and so when Faye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► Dunaway looked at the card it said Emma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Stone lala land and she just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► like well what I don't know why they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► him a stone there but I see lala land so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► i'll say lala land which was hmm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► hindsight a mistake but it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► reasonable you know yeah it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► you know the card said I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Zootopia and you're like yeah that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► sense if the same i gave the guy the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► got the wrong card from the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► award was halfway through the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► there's a good chance that none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► current one were in the one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► previously announced and then they'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► like I don't you know they'd have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► like they maybe that would dawn on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► like holy holy heck they gave me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► wrong card yeah yeah um so that a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/542">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► whole procedure this whole procedure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► having two sets of cards seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► massive mistake to me oh my gosh so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► way I understand it and I may be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► wrong and things have changed since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► so if there's a listener out there who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► has inside info on the Academy Awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/562">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► and wants to correct me if I'm wrong go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► for it but the way I understand it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► tradition pre you know well I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► know maybe even pre like backstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► handlers with the idea being that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► order to make the show run smoothly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► to make things interesting because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► after all a stage show and a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► is being produced for television people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► are going to come in from opposite sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► of the stage but because there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► know as as time has gone on there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► big numbers and things have to change at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► the last minute a presenter may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► been originally scheduled to come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► from stage left and then abruptly needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► to come on from stage right and rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► than having to you know send a runner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► black like zipping around the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► the stage and maybe running into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► something well and also can also change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► that would violate the idea the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► that the only two people who have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► envelopes before they're announced are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Waterhouse exactly and that also takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► away the secrecy so the thought is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► we'll just put one briefcase carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► stage left and one briefcase carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► stage right they each have a copy of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► of the awards so no matter what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► the presenter no matter where they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► up having to enter from they will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► be right next to the envelope necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► for their entrance which is a lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► idea in theory and you know 80 some odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► years until now worked okay yeah I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and even if we want to stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► it's clear that the procedure should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► have been that it should have been with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► a very strict you know like you double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/666">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► checking if you're offstage on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► colleague like let's say you and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► the two people giving out these awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► if it's your turn to give out best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► actress in a leading role I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► have my copy of that exact envelope in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► my hand and then I'm going to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► presenters go out on stage or I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► who was it was Leo DiCaprio comes out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► stage reads it and hands Emma Stone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► Oscar and then at that point I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► take my copy of that card and put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► a different pocket you know right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► okay not in not in the hand and then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► about to you know give next presenter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► I'm going to systematically do that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► each you know for each of the awards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► at least it doesn't quite make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► impossible that I could do it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► you know you'd have to like destroy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► or something yeah and people want it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► memorabilia and the like but I del they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► had photos of the guy backstage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► this poor fellow who is responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► me taking a photo of Emma Stone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► moments before he's goofing around on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► Twitter with his iphone uh taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► pictures of emma stone and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► photos of him holding two envelopes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► he still got two envelopes in his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► the best actress one that he should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► put into a different pile and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► the the best picture one that he needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► to give to Warren Beatty in a minute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► he just gave him the wrong one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► envelopes eye candy it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► the the tweet that guy that got sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► around the world with the like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► popular tweet showing how hard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► envelopes are to read was a freeze frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► of from his tivo that Andy a knocko [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► friend of the show Andy and not go post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► it to Twitter and any yeah it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► deep red envelope with very smart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► beyond gold no gold on burgundy which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► think is worse it's oh that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► that's right yeah right no it is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► ya light text on dark paper in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► is a bad idea when you're trying to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► especially in bright lights on a stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► backstage backstage where ages were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► stark and everybody involved is 50 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► older and so I can I can vouch as a 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► almost 44 year old that yet reading in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the dark is a real problem after the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/817">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► of 40 and the like small type it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/820">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► it's just it incomprehensible that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► would be the design especially given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► system you know that that there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► sets you would just think that designing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► to make sure that we always give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► right envelope we'd be there maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► a little bit clearer on what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► envelope is for and again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► understand that the need to write it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► such tiny text I mean if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► andys photo I it can't be bigger than 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► or 14 point font no and that in Gold's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► like what ha and I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► concept of oh well we want to write best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► actress in a leading role versus best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► actress in a supporting role but can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► you write best actress or best picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► in big honking like 36 point font maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► you know in vegetable bonds that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/872">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► you've got it you've got it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► there's just no excuse for not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► in dark text on a light background I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► know it's frustrating um and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/882">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► it's just so funny anyway I had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► of X this week to the critique of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► design and it's I think the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/891">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► psychology of it which is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► totally makes sense to me that it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► even occur to Warren Beatty or Faye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► Dunaway that we might be given the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► all right no of course not the Oscars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► are always right like I think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► you're the guy from Price Waterhouse I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► would be thing I really would even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► this was like my 20th year doing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► it's feels familiar whatever i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► thinking oh my god i cannot screw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/923">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► mm-hmm this is the year this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► that terrible things will happen I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► it's being somebody said that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► literally it could not be there's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► been a better example of that phrase you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► had one job hey yup oh gosh yeah I I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/939">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► feel kind of sorry for that for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► poor guy just you know just I I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► want to be the person to be like so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► did you do at your last job well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► inadvertently screwed up the Oscars okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► Best Picture yeah boy let me take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/960">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► break before we get into the nerdy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and okay and thank our good friends at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► Squarespace next time you make a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► move you need to do website make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► next move with squarespace you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► beautiful website from Squarespace any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► type of website you need you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► store is that your idea they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► day of templates for stores is it a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► they have templates for blogs podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► you wanna make a podcast guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► Squarespace can help you with that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► even if you've just got the idea you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► start by getting your own domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► through Squarespace and get it held for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► everything you want to do with a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► from the domain name to the hosting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► the analytics and stats as the studios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► you see what people are doing and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► they're doing at the website all of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► goes through squarespace com everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► you do is set up visually drag and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► click and drag that sort of thing if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► want to if listeners of this show it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► very likely if you have the capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► if you know what you're doing if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► got a bit of a web development nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► angled to your abilities you could drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► in and put custom JavaScript in you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► modify the CSS if you want to stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► that so if you want to get nerdy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► look at the code you can do it but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► you don't you don't have to and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► really a very app like experience of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► way that you can just drag stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► and have a professionally designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► website no matter what your skill level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► is technically I where do you go to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► squarespace.com just go that you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► free trial don't even need a code or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► anything like that the thing you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► remember is when you do sign up remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► this code Gruber my last name GRU be PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► and you'll save ten percent off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► first purchase Squarespace make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► next move with squarespace ah I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► we'd start did you see this thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► the apple shareholder meeting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► earlier this week yes good ol apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► shareholder meeting I we used to when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► worked at macworld we used to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► somebody down there to just take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► it was usually very boring and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► always one person who's like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► divest all the company of all of the x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► and y um but this this year it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► little bit different this year's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► little bit interesting it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► bylaws of a public corporation are such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► that a crackpot with a ship with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► share of apple stock and like get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► microphone if ya if they so choose I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► no idea until this year I've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► to it it's never been something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► I've thought that saw the need to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► you know first hand um I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► that they held him at Town Hall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► thought I thought it was like some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► thing where like like a thousand you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► know Apple diehards love to go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► like they buy a share and hold on to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► forever just so that they can go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► know like like a like a like a Mac world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► keynote or something yeah oh we can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► and see that yeah I just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► that that many people either realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► what the annual shareholder meeting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► or they don't really think that oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► this is my this is my chance to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► within 10 feet of Tim Cook so it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► be great it's really just like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► people who show up yeah it's cuz town is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► tiny yeah there's no there's really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► a lot of space and I do think I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► remember how it goes but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► there's some kind of priority system but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► I may be wrong on that we have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► RSVP or something like that and so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► yeah so they actually have enough space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► so the news that came out of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► somebody asked a question this is from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► report at nine to five Mac it's not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► video or anything like that so who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► what the greater context is but the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► that came out was that Tim Cook said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► something about the pro area again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► here I'll just read from nine to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► max story and I will put it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► no type ramas cook also hinted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► Apple's product pipeline by promising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► Apple will quote do more in the Pro area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► end quote cook called out the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► field is especially important to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► while pushing back against the notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► that Apple is to consumer focused now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► quote don't think that something we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► done or something or doing that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► visible yet is a signal that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► priorities are elsewhere and quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► that's about as little as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► actually say specifically like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► expect him to reveal anything specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► in it responds to a shareholder a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► question but he literally didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► mention whether the at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► quote I don't know you know again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► the Selective quotes from see who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► this a 9to5 mac Zack hall 9to5 mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► but at least from what he quoted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► doesn't even mention whether as in to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► with the mac or not like yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► they have the ipad pro which is off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► know i don't know if you could tell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► given the name they consider a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► problems for professionals yeah uh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► i do think though i do think that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► apple marketing speak pro doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► necessarily mean professional user it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► means something a little more nebulous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► it's sort of more like like what in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► other contexts would be like deluxe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► premium just nicer and more expensive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► sort of what they mean by pro and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► ipad pro in particular it exemplifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► that in my opinion because for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► the macbook pros definitely look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► different than the regular macbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► they're thicker mm-hmm and heavier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► in a way that's not as nice right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► if you just in terms of light which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► one's nicer to carry around all day a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► macbook is better than a macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► writer for sure it's that trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► we'll make it thicker so we can put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► you know more faster faster but heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► components in there and a bigger battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► and stuff is in a lot of ways leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► towards literally professional use cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► where is the ipad pro vs the ipad air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► it's really just a nicer ipad yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► but you could also argue the same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► same concept right where you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► 12.9 and the 9.7 inch ipad pro they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► the only ipads that can use Apple pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► so that basically limits like creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► professionals if you want to use an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► as a proper sketching tool you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► only thing to get is an apple pencil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► an ipad pro like there's no there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► even any point using a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► stylist anymore because it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► much of a better experience on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► the you could argue that again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► processing power on the twelve point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► nine inch iPad pro the true tone screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► on the 97 like they are nicer features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► but specifically for people who spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► lot of time staring at a tablet screen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► true tone screen is going to be nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► for them especially doing proofreading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► or typography correction or any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► above it's going to be it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► a better workspace yeah there's overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► there's clearly overlaps between apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► definition of pro and actual lower case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► P professional use cases there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► of overlap in some cases but it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► it's not like a one-to-one mapping no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► it's not the way that it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► right where when when Apple said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► our pro computer what they really meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► is this is the computer that the top you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► know two percent of the market is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► to buy for professional use cases so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► knows what he means we're gonna do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► in a pro area I mean it's I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► it's bad I think it's better that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► said something then that he said nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► in terms of let's just say the broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► context of the concern that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► losing interest in high performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► computing professional Mac uses you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► yeah which is a funny broad area but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► talking you know the areas i'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► about developers who have code that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► video editors seed you know graphics for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► you know people who do computer graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and areas like that like researchers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► like people who do like AI research and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► have these huge data sets of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► obviously artificial intelligences you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► know it's never not been an interest but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► it's exploding in practical uses where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► it's really starting to become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► consumer thing there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► super high-performance computing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► people who are working on that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► do and you know there's this it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► the Mac Pro hasn't been updated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► eleven hundred days so oh it's yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► is overdue but just just a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► just to you know just a while I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► know it's funny to me having transcribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► many many things that Tim Cook has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► over the years usually at financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► calls when he's again speaking off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► cuff and the sentence phrasing it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► not just it made not be an you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► exact transcription but the don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► that something we've done or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► that we're doing is invisible yet is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► signal that our priorities are elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► that that is very classic Tim Cook being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► like what do you mean we're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► things for pros right we you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► it's him being at least from again my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► defensive and slightly confused as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► you know why aren't you guys patient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► just trust that we know what we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► which you know you can be that way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► the CEO of a major company but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► say John the Mac Pro hasn't been updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► in eleven hundred days like there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► not like people are throwing their hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► up the air and saying oh Pro users you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► know you guys were just catered to six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► months ago you never you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► worry about it like there are some valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► concerns in this space yeah it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► like the the graph of how much anxiety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► is it causes by as as the Mac Pro goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► I updated it it's I'm I can say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► logarithmic but it increases over it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► not linear as time goes on it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► scarier and scarier because it seems all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► the more preposterous you know so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► couple of weeks ago sometime somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► recently I linked to I link to a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► about a guy works from a guy who works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► in the professional video industry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► it was just talking about how he expects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► he's going to have to switch from Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► Pro's to Windows machines soon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► he's dependent on these cutting-edge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► work he's doing needs GPUs and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► nvidia boxes are coming out with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► boxes yep parallel GPUs and it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► so much of where Moore's law still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► applies is in cheated you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► over year improvements to GPUs and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► parallel ISM and and you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► where performance computing is going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► you know how about I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► anybody was really thinking that the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► but even when the mac pro was brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► 1100 days ago it wasn't like the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► fastest GPU and no its you know and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► it's unchanged over 1100 days so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► pushed some pushback on that from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► saying hey you know you just link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► this now but that was from a that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► like may 2016 it's old news and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► actually didn't notice that it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► and I hate it's like one of the mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► I make I don't know a couple times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► year daring fireball is I'll link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► something thinking it's new and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► comment makes it seem as though it's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► and it's not it's you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► however many months or even a year out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► of date and it's just it's somehow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► have a blind spot for double checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► the date on a post because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► like what happens is I'll see somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► link to it on twitter or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► the link on twitter is under the guise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► that it's new so i clicked and new yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and you know in some templates in on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► blog or something like that the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► might not be prominent it might be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► the bottom or something like that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► don't i just hate when i make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► mistake but in this particular case i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► feel like the mistake it I should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► know I winds itself to your argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► right I updated the post then to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► that he wrote it in May of 2016 so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► everybody everybody who subsequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► read it would know it but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► the Mac hasn't been update my pro as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► n'ton updated since then just makes his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► absolutely and you know he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► shouting in a vacuum I have friends who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► work at visual design agencies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► actually a close friend of mine was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► really I sort of wrestling with herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► whether or not to get one of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► macbook pros this year to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► basically an aging I've 2009 era macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► pro because she needs you know she needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► the power and she wants she wants an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► updated portable workspace but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► macbook pro is essentially for her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► buy it she would be compromising on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► kind of things that she would need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► running cinema 4d and the like and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► really like yes video editors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► graphics professionals are a niche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► audience and certainly more niche for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► Apple than they were a decade or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► two decades ago but they're still you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► know that's that's still a segment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► can move some some product you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► video professionals don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► especially production houses you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► they're buying 20 30 40 computers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► their for their workforce and if those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► computers are all tricked out Mac Pro's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► so that they can process footage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► that's not a like yeah it's a drop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► the bucket compared to iphone sales but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► it's still a pretty hefty chunk of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► mac sales and for them to just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► yeah we're just gonna give up at hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► this to windows because we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► enough about that market anymore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► market isn't interesting enough to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► anymore and I part of me as a former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► film person it really kind of is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► stab in the gut because I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► like so many of my film friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► myself included like we don't enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► premiere we don't enjoy you know working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► with cinema 4d or Adobe's products like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► the whole one of the whole excitements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► about getting into this industry was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► working with tools like motion and final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► and shake before it got discontinued and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► for Apple to basically be like yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► is not an interest to us anymore Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► can do this but they're essentially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► know they're essentially telling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► who've based their entire livelihoods on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► working on a mac and building up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► software platform on the mac if sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► you're going to have to go learn another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► platform or go switch to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► operating system because you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► our bottom line it does no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► includes this segment of the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► I it what it would occurred to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► that wake of the cooks you know more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► less stay tuned again a response to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► question at the shareholders meeting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► that Apple's culture of secrecy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► products it works fine when the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► is functional there are trade-offs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► know like and you know people if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► one of those ever lie evergreen topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► about Apple is what if they were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► open and you know in a ways that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► Tim Cook error they are a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► more open in some areas there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► trade-offs between secrecy and openness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► in terms of maintaining a surprise in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► terms of not over-promising being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► to over promise and under promise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► over deliver as opposed to the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► around for example one of the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► know in a lot of companies adhere to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► not talking about release dates of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► products because if you never talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► the release date of a product it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► be late whereas if you do and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► late then you're late so the trade off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► their culture of secrecy has trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► when their product development is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► functional and and those trade-offs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► think Apple has long believed work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► the company's favor but when they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► functional it the culture of secrecy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► just completely breaks down I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► clearly the Mac Pro has because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► dysfunctional product at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► because they have it yeah you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► if they had canceled it a year ago if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► they had just said at WWDC that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► you know the time for these micro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► done yeah and you know the imac is art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► obviously it would not have gone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► well with a certain audience who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► know wants higher you know the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► performance they can get but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► you couldn't say that it's dysfunctional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► I mean that's a rational decision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► then people can plan accordingly well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► one year later we wouldn't be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► about it still it just would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► happened right I just feel for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► last year like from WWDC through today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► has is the period where for me at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► it's gone from the mac pro is over due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► to the mac pro's ridiculous and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► that Apple isn't is still selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► isn't saying anything is it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► if the company is in denial about it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► if they're I don't know but it's a to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► and again i don't i'm not saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► need to because need is the wrong word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► but I they ought to if it's true that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► they're going to have some kind of event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► this month to announce you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► rumors are rampant that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► have new iPad pro so we can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► that in a moment but iPad new iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► maybe like updated iphone SE maybe red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► iphone 7s maybe even a new imac although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► i don't there's not as much smoke to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► that shatter yeah fire but but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► other hand I max often don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► attention in the supply chain asian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► supply chain rumor chain that that iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► products do so maybe it's just that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► I don't I haven't heard anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► new mac pros um no aside from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► complaining that they're not here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► but I I really think Apple ought to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► comfortable but I really think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Apple ought to somehow address that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► elephant in the room at the event even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► if they have nothing to say and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► don't know exactly because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► exactly what their plans are I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► know you know but they have really ought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► to say something more than you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► should let Mac Pro users know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► and then dollars the lag that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► ridiculous the thing that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► frustrates me and I kind of forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► it until it gets brought up again is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► fact that they're still currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► selling the very very out of date Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► Pro write it and and not at a discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► either it's just full price for a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► four and a half year old computer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► and that's another policy that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► trade-offs but makes sense from Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► prospectus this policy of that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► don't cut product prices as the life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► goes on like so if they come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► mac book and it doesn't get updated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► 15 months in that 14th month when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► new mac when the old macbooks have only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► one month but they haven't been replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► yet they still sell it the same price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► whereas dell you go to del that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► laptops it's like buying commodities you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► know like every month they go up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► down and price based on you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► the ram market is an SSD components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► dropping you know and they come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► weird prices like you configure your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► dell computer and its eight hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► sixty seven dollars or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► that instead of 899 Apple under your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► sales to write an apple pics prices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► are that are the price is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► marketing where they have nice even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► know it's 24 99 and it's going to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► 24 99 and part of the reason they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► drop it to 2299 14 months after it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► out is so that when the next one comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► out they can use the same price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► and so clearly that's what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► with the mac pro is maintaining these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► replacements come out it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► like the prices went up by two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► dollars lot worse but it only works when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► the product development is functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► and it comes out on a regular basis like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► you can sell an 11 month old computer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► the same price and you're only asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► for a small premium you can do it on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► let's say it's an 18-month development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► cycle you can do it at the seventeenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► month and expect that informed consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► know oh this is not the time to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► mac pro at 17 months old there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► probably a new one coming but to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► with a a three year old computer is root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► it it's embarrassing it's insulting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► like you said because there's no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► product and they're just parading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► fact you know the latest and greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► software I forget a while back someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► posted to Twitter you know the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► with the latest and greatest software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► including aperture something that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► sunset right maybe fix that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► still on the website I actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► know I'm I wouldn't be surprised if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► still was because that's the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► that it just doesn't feel like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► pro is a priority and honestly even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► it was just I don't know yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► much rather they pull the product off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► the market and say coming soon and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► you know you want to make it nebulous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► just say we have you know do they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► nebulous apple store thing we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► something great in store for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► then just leave it like that and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► rather be speculating about oh well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► have something in the pipeline and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► knows what will come out in 20 17 or 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► 19 but they still have something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► pipeline where is right now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► discontinuing the mac pro but every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► that the old Mac Pro still said stays on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► sale it's just it's frustrating and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► also it's one of those things where yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► you can sell an 11 month old computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► you can even sell an 18 month old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► computer but once you start selling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► computer that's been on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► longer than it's covered by applecare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► what's that like people would actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► use it that's when I start getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► little bit uncomfortable yeah and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► the weird things when I published that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► piece the recent piece about that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► video guy is getting out of it I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► some amazing emails from some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► daring fireball readers most of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► the video industry specifically although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► one guy was like an AI researcher which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► is where I got that idea earlier before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► where his team was going to I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► what exactly area they're working but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► more or less they just wanted to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► massive amounts of computing to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► this at and in years past because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► work on Mac OS 10 and prefer the mac as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► a good development environment just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► would have gone to apple and just bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► gobs of mac pro's and hooked them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► processing but instead built their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► little network out of linux boxes which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► none of them had previous experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► they know the mac pro and it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► have been have had to do a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► learning about linux before they got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► the AI work that they really got wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► to do that would had to do more work up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► front to learn how to even set it up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► then it was worth it because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► much faster and we now we can just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► these boxes and just throw them at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► thing but i heard from a bunch of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► president in movie industry including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► somebody was working on like a Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► I'm not going to say the name because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► was I just treat emails confidentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► but let's just say a movie with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► hundred and fifty million dollar budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► that's an upcoming summer blockbuster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► and that they're still doing editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► like for dailies on the 2012 mac pro i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► think it's like the version number is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► like five comma 1 but like the last the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► last cheese grater mac pros they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► like seven of them on you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► location for like editing dailies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► stuff which is ridiculous like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► unbelievable that not only is the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► pro as yet as they're selling it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► three years old but that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► industry professionals where money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► clearly not the problem you just prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► to work on it on a five year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► computer and they said like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► know in that part of it with this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► is you know we we want to use what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► what we're familiar with but that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► writing's on the wall and that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► moving you know next big thing might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► on Windows yeah which is heartbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► it is it's very frustrating as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► it's if you spent 12 years learning your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► craft and yes if you're in the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► video industry your craft is constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► changing and it's your job to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► abreast of all of those changes but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► the same time you know if you put 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► years of work into mastering Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► Pro and you're an expert at final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► and you're an expert at the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► compressor and the various workflows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► then they're essentially like yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► but apples just given up on it so now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► like I don't know if you ever did any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► graphics illustration but I remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► know back when free when macromedia free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► hand was the thing yeah back in the 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► people like professionals and students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► clung to free hand for god knows like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► years after it was discontinued because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► they had their workflows and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► like the ability to work through it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► work in it but but unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► illustration you know 2d illustration is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► vastly different than 3d modeling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► have to be using latest and greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► software and hardware in order to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► doing that and to have your stuff look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► like it belongs in a modern film you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► can't get away with using you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► you can really only get away with using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► older equipment for so long before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► just it explodes in your face no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► remember those days well I never did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► much illustration but I you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► more of a layout person so I was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► QuarkXPress was my jam as they say ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► pagemaker yeah but there was the yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► that the graphic if you worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► graphic design print you needed a layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► program which is probably their core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► core pagemaker i was on the quark side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► you needed a image editor which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► probably Photoshop and he needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► vector illustration app and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► one where it was the hardest fought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► illustrator and I always found I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► really do much illustration it usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► something ah or something as basic as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► like let's make we can't ship this font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► sup for some reason so let's make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► little graphic and convert to outlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► we don't have to ship the font you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► for some context where you couldn't send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► somebody that you really want to thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► yeah you really wanted to just send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► and just an eps I was always free hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► made sense to me and I think people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► like it even though they weren't from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► the same company it there's a in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► experience a huge correlation between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► people who liked quark xpress in people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► who like free hand that quark quark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► free hand even know they're from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► different companies worked in people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► brains the same way and I know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► who hung on to free hand for oh my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► said like so many years after the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► over mm-hmm running running it in Roseto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► way past the yeah cod yeah i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► was what it would did mountain lion get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► rid of rosetta lion it was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► colleague who literally used free hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► up until the point that it could no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► longer be supported on their mac at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► which point they finally grudgingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► switched illustrator so anyway I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► know I I feel like this pro question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► not going to go away and I at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► I feel like Tim Cook's say nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► answer is no longer again I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► say it's not acceptable it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► anything bad is going to come of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► if they keep pretending like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► normal but I think it makes them look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► bad and it does and I think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► are just based on my email anecdotally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► there they've passed the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► they're starting to lose customers yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► I I would agree with that well it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► hit that point where their customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► have to switch they basically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► they have to fish or cut bait at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► point they can't just be waiting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► in the water hoping that you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► will deliver them a giant fish on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► plate ready to to run a CUDA system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► their graphics needs and you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► beautiful you know the sad thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► really sad thing is Final Cut Pro 10 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► lot of people made a lot of fuss about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► it when it first switched over and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► good reason you know it was a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► limited program but the people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► software side for Final Cut have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► fantastic and smart work and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► newest version of final cut their latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► update which was released I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► couple months ago is really like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► dramatic a dramatic improvement on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► that workflow um and so it hurts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► hurts my film editor so a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► that Apple wouldn't give its users the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► technology to really take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► this software that they're developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► they're also developing in-house like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► you're you're letting down your final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► cut pro team by not giving people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► kind of hardware they need to run it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► guess there's some small chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► that in this supposed upcoming event in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► March that they might answer this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► don't think they're good i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► there's any chance that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► answer it by announcing a new mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► but maybe they'll let maybe they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► like a new imac that they'll say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► whether they call it the imac pro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► just say that this is a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► expect machine and give strong enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► hints that yes this is our answer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► maybe then take the mac pro's off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► market or lower them in price or hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► them on apple.com take away the aperture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► mention right yeah there's a chance yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► i mean honestly I could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► happening if Apple essentially just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► hey we made in we made a way for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► have an external graphics card and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► it work properly on the mac right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► think that would actually that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► solve a lot of graphics professionals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► problems yeah because the main issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► right now and then there there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► couple of third-party third-party boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► that'll do this where you can plug in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► Nvidia CUDA card and then try and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► know run it off but there's always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► to be latency right because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► it's not built to the same specs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► it's not built internally to Apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► the question is really is Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► just apple care about that does apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► care about the small niche of users who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► are going to want a CUDA card when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► editing graphics yeah uh I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► what to say we could talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► other rumors about the yeah in a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► but less depressing yeah that's the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► that'll make us happy ah but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► meantime I'm going to take a break here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► and thank our next sponsor it's our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► friends at Harry's Harry's makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► terrific shaving products it was started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► by two guys Jeff and Andy were fed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► with being overcharged for razors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► literally the one day at one of them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► in the drug store buying replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► razor blades and had to wait for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► to come over and unlock the case because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► they're like frequently shoplifted items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and then bought them and then realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► that it's like it's a lot of money per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► blade for a product that's no fun to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► so they came up with this idea let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► make our own blades will sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► direct and will undercut the big-name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► brands on prices they literally bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► their own factory a hundred-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► blade making factory in Germany they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► make these blades they sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► directly online and they shipping to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► for half the price to the leading brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► I I did one of my favorite things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► they've been sponsoring the show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► years when I first started sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► they sent me a kit with a razor and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► had like a chrome handle I had it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► years and then a couple months ago they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► came out with like a new slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► updated version then they sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► another one and has like a more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► rubbery handle which I actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► like because to me it's not slippery but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► I looked at my chrome one that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► three or four years old and it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► looked brand new it's absolutely crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► how well like you couldn't tell which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► one was the new one which one was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► old one their product design is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► really great their packaging design is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► really really great I said this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► I'll say it again I always feel bad when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► I like finish a pack of blades from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► Harry's because it doesn't look like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► type a box you throw away it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► the type of box you keep but that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► know that's that way lights at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► appearance on the hoarders show sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► alright I do throw them away but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► always there's always a pang of guilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► that I'm throwing away such a nice nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► box all this for two dollars a blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► more or less compared to the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► dollars or more you will pay at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► drugstore for a big name brand they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► so confident in the quality of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► blades that they want you to try their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► most popular trial set for free it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► with a razor handle of your choice five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► blade cartridge and shaving gel it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► free when you sign up you just pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► small fee for shipping that's it redeem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► your free trial offer go to Harry's calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► / talk show right now Harry's har ry s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► calm / talk show alright does this I dis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► rampant rumor that there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► three new iPad pros 9.7 that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► it's just a faster version of the 9.7 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► have now 12.9 it's like a faster better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► version of the one we have right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► a 10.5 inch diagonal screen that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► Ed's dad's does this make any sense yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► I don't know I I can see how they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► been staggering iPad updates over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► last 18 months where you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► started with a 12.9 in the pro and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► all of their latest and greatest new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► features into that and then the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► spring may have the 9.7 inch ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► and they had almost all of the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► from the 12.9 and some new stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► true tone and threw it into that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► get i guess i could see them throwing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► third option into the mix and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► let's let's see if this sticks let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► if this is better but I'd I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► understand why they wouldn't update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► line at once right like having I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► they're gonna ship a new edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► design that takes out the chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► forehead or greatly reduces them why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► wouldn't you do it in two sizes mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► exactly like I understand why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► launched the night that 12 9 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► launched the 97 because they were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► working on trying to put the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► of the 12 9 in the screen into the 97 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► get that part but if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► launch a 10-5 like the smaller one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► the harder one so presumably why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► wouldn't you launch the 10 5 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► also launched that that version in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► 12 9 and then keep the 97 as that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► that's your new ipad air version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► basically that's the old ipad pro 9.7 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► now just a regular old ipad air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► these two the 10.5 and then whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► 12.9 becomes these are your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► really awesome iPads right to just throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► in like one in the middle it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► it feels kind of like taking a dart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► board out and like being like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► they'll like this is the only way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► makes any sense to me is if this the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► one with the edge deads design is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► lot more expensive like yes it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► something you know so that you say oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► get it if I just want to pay what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► used to paying for an iPad pro I'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► the new 9.7 which will be you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► a year better specs but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► prices as last year maybe with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► storage or something you know but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► over your Apple upgrade of a product but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► if I'm if I want to spend a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► money i can get this one that's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► because then it's an easy decision but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► if the price range if the prices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► like comparable it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► sense to me that those products would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► exist alongside each other I can see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► switching to a new design but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► would take the old design and keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► unchanged and just lower the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► that's what Apple does yeah it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► last year's model the I mean I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► them getting rid of the 12 92 and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► being like here's our you know like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► they did with the 17-inch macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► when they switch to the new design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► macbook pro where they're like okay this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► is a good this was a good thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► this was a nice idea but we want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► know go with this this design um but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► that doesn't seem to be happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► according to the rumors the only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► thing that I can think of is yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► their goal is to eventually position the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► 9.7 as the entry level and then the 10.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► is the first pro machine and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► they're going to make a version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► 12.9 that looks like the 10.5 pause for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► dog barking um sorry one second that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► all right I just don't think he likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► this iPad rumor enough no she she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► iPads I yea sorry that's okay she has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► she is a very masculine barks oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► understand the confusion I yet but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► thought is all right so the only way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► can see this making sense is if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► tried to make the 12 9 in this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► configuration and either the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► life is not what they want or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► heaviness is not what they want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► if you look at the 12 9 right now the 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► 9 is still a pretty big compromise like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► I switched to the 97 almost instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► after it became available and i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► i would hate it because i'd gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► used to the wide screen of the 12 9 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► it was just so much lighter and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► portable even with an arctic like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► with the logitech create case that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► just felt like the no-brainer option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► especially if i still wanted a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► chop around which I need for for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► for some tasks whereas the 12 9 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► is it's it's on the edge of three pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► yeah I know all of its it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► terrible it's not it's not the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► portable machine for people right I so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► could see Apple being like well we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► want to sell it unless it's good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► will get all chili with apple sales long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► like I don't know there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► about this 33 iPad product thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► just doesn't make any sense to me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► can't help but feel that that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► there's a large chunk of it to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► come that all and then we'll say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► now I see it makes sense yeah I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► to connect the dots here because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► sure it exists I'm sure as you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► if if this is a real rumor I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► there's a way to connect it all all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► his disagreeing with me did you see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► terms of like the way that people do are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► doing work on iPads I there was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► thread on Twitter this week we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► friend of the show and I'm known to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► more as like an illustrator Louie Mancha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► is working on a typeface design and sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► it to Jonathan Hoefler of Hoefler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► accompanied fame on Twitter and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► said hey do you have any thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► Jonathan Hoefler took it and like mocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► up the it's I get was a PDF of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► alphabet that he had drawn and mark this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► up with all of these little notes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► places where maybe the curves could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► different and the radii could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► different and letters you know like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► take this you did a great thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► with the lowercase D but you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► the same thing with the lowercase B and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► and i'll put links in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► I've got him got him here in the notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► already but it I looked at as a type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► nerd it was super fascinating to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► this feedback and it all makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► me and I was like wow that I do I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► see how that would be better but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► instantly thought like I want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► how he did this marking up and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► asked and it was uh it was with an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► pencil it in an app called notability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► which I have heard it for the ipad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► it's a PDF you know you can import PDFs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► and then you can draw right on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► them and it seems like it's really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► been around for a while but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► like it's really embraced the pencil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► it hoefler said to me that with the 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► years was tweet with with the 12 point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► nine inch ipad and the Apple pencil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► notability they moved all of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► proofing workflow from paper to screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► in the last year and they're saving 36 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► thousand pages of printed paper a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► uh and I found that fascinating like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► I can totally see and to me what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► it's just been an idea it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► everybody talks about it but this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► idea of iPads for work and what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► future of work computing and that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► it comes down to it largely comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► to form factors and that iPads and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► have it's not so much that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► replacing traditional notebooks and Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► but that they're they're good for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► in areas that max never were like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► don't think it ever even occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► Jonathan F'lar to do to to do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► their proofing on a Mac yeah you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3533">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► you could take if you had a cintiq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► tablet or even own into us from Wacom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► you could absolutely hook it up to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► Mac and right on the the typeface are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► right on the PDF but it's just such a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► was a clunkier experience and the cintiq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► was definitely not a you know is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► portable machine you're still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► stunt at your desktop and I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► would have found it even founded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► unpleasant compared to his existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► workflow just printing 36,000 sheets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► paper a year marking them up with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► actual you know red pen well the fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► thing about critique right is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► will actually get a chance to step away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► from your desk its remember back when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► were putting together ebooks for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► world one of my favorite things was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► and then to make the final edits to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► likes it up on our on the terrace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► are at our old space and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► grab a can of coke and my proofs and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► through them with an old-school red pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► and yeah I could have like I could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► done those on an iPad probably an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► we were when we were doing that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► just wasn't as tactile sense it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► satisfying you couldn't really right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► with the styluses that were available at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► that point and the ipad air screen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► wasn't good enough whereas you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► the ipad pro you take the the retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► display combined with the true tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► display so it's actually easier to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► work in all spaces and then the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► which you know in the right app feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► like writing with pen you know it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► not have the the tactile sensation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► the glass but you're still getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► right approximation of what you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► draw and how you want to draw it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► that's really really important for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► fascinating to me you know i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► if you saw it I was doing this iPad pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► experiment where I essentially put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► call out on Twitter and via I'm or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► being like hey I really want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► what what everybody's using their iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► pro for when it comes to work like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► send me an email give me the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► like what you're doing um and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► if it's cool i'll shoot you an email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► we'll do some interviews and the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► of responses that i got in 24 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► really kind of blew me away and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► industries where the ipad pro is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► used it was across the board like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► kinds of crazy things like we I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► there's a large number of people in IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► who use the iPad for you know running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► around on the go because it's easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► carry with them than like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► Chromebook um the one of the cooler ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► that I found out about is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► someone who's getting their PhD at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► Harvard in ancient writing who uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► ipad to help recreate and scan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► analyze this you know ancient uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► know pre pre Roman handwriting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► there's Kyle Lambert of course who drew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► the poster for stranger things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► almost entirely on his iPad the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► you know that Netflix used like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► that's like that that's the traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► thing you think of is like hofler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► Hoefler you know doing annotation with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► or drawing with a pencil but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► so many other industries and weird use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► cases that I just don't think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► really realize are being filled by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► iPad in like you said in in environments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► where it just either didn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► to have a mac or a computer or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► where maybe a mac or a computer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► filling this gap but not as well as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► could have been I i also think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► there's obviously some legacy aspects to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► pdfs and eight and a half by 11 paper or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► for our friends on the other side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► pond a for dimension paper and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► there's some legacy aspects to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► where if you're if you're in an industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► like the law or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► where where things get published in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► there if you don't deal with it on paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► you are dealing it with a PDF that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► assumes that it's printed on eight a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► half by 11 paper where the 9.7 inch ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► screen is a little too small it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► readable and you know but it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► shrunk down enough that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► there's a reason why that's not the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► of the paper we use for sure whereas on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► the 12.9 it is but then there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► areas like it's just nicer artistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► to have a bigger canvas you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► think with Hoefler you know like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► think there was any reason that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► to stick you know that I think he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► with the 12.9 not because it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► legacy process if they moved their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► workflow from from paper to screens they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► could abandon the size I just think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► artistic it's just better to look at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► bigger and to be able to zoom up and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► have a bigger canvas oh yeah yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► it's it's one of those things where if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► was doing illustration on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► basis I think the 12.9 would be my daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► carry without question because it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► is there's something really wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► being able to work at that larger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► size especially when you're sketching I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► don't know if you've ever taken like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► life drawing class or anything where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► you're being asked to make like big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► giant strokes with your pencil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► taking your entire arm into the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► not just like sketching with your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► that kind of those kind of big movements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► but traditionally in an illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► class you really can only get by working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► on you know big canvas paper because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► you work on an eight and a half by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► eleven you're just gonna strike you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► strike the thing off of the screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► the twelve point nine inch iPad is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► of the first where I actually felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► you could do life drawing sketches on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► and not feel like you were drawing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► know essentially on a post-it note yep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► I feel like we as there's a part of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► anybody whether you like apple stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► like you know or you don't but where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► feel like it's there seems like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► a rational part of your brain that sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► owning an iPad and a macbook or just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► tablet and a notebook if you have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► operating systems as wasteful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► you've got two things that are basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► the same size 10 to 15 inches and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► same thing a computer with an LCD screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► and some way to set up a keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► maybe touch etc you just feel like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► there should only be one and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► there's a logical argument to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► surface book movement right but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► I've been thinking about this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► lately I just you know I think it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► just depends on the type of work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► you do and I me at that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► certain tasks and it's certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► ones that computers got goop personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► computers got good at first in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► few decades that basically involves you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► sitting down at a table or a desk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► your palms flat on a keyboard that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► flat with some sort of pointing device a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► mouse or a trackpad right next to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► that you use to deal with the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► that is more or less horizontal in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► of you there's a whole bunch of tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► where that form factor is terrific and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► if that's type of work you do like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► just say you get your have a job where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► you have just lots of emails that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► have to answer every day so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► typing a lot not just reading it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► and you can see why I like with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► macbooks and MacBook Pros where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► displays have gotten ever thinner than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► before so thin that they can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► light up the Apple anymore it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► hinge is so great it is so much easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► to put a mac setup a macbook at a desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► in front of you like in a coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► than to set up an ipad with a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► sure and again it's you know what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► talking about 10 seconds is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► five ten seconds to just do the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► foldy thing with your keyboard and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► it in but it's not long but it adds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► right it's like guys the little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► it's just not optimized for it if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► your main point of work and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► you close it it's even more work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► and because you have to unfold all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► that right and I'm not denying that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► some people that there's tons of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► who just love writing on their iPads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► that's a trade-off they're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► accept but you don't see how anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► could deny that an iPad set up in laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► configuration no matter which brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► keyboard you're using is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► backwards its top-heavy the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► the heavy part with the battery and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► keyboard is the light part whereas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► macbook is oriented the right way where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► there's a heavy bass and a super light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► screen mm-hmm and I just think more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► more but it's just taking a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► find them we're finding these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► contexts whether it's the actual task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► you want to do like illustration like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► you actually want the dude you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► you're drawing something on a screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► mark it up or if it's just about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► you are that you're not at a desk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► know like you said like these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► segments who are walking around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► maybe want to be doing stuff on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► while they're standing where an iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► better and as nothing to do with iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► guess I think we've also collected we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► spent too much time worrying about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► differences between iOS and mac OS not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► that they don't matter but that a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► part of it is just the human form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► of where you are you standing are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► sitting are you actually typing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► that matter more absolutely well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► about just going back to illustration I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► how many different sketchbooks I had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► college right and granted a sketchbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► is a little bit cheaper than a full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► computer but still you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► spending quite a lot of money on six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► seven eight different sizes of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► because you know in some cases a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► notebook is going to make sense in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► cases apost it's going to make sense in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► other cases a you know 36 inch canvas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► going to make sense it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► finding the right tool and the right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► right product that works for you and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► the case of the iPad and everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► important is how those things all fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► together right if I'm going to use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► iPad actually like one one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► reasons i got my very first ipad back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► 2010 was yes I wanted to sketch with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► and I was really excited about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► at the time I was doing I was doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► job in a in a t-shirt online t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► manufacturing company and I was indexing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► what t-shirts we had in stock and before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► the iPad that meant manually going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► all of the Isles of the t-shirts with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► tiny little out of date windows laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► on it on a cart we could just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► pulling it over this factory floor as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► went like box by box to count like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► many sizes of smalls how many sizes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► mediums how many sizes of large and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► we got the ipad we could very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► enter that into our online inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► just by carrying the ipad around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► selecting you know okay this is this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► three smalls great and we no longer had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► to use the little cart or you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► heavy laptop or worry about knocking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► over to the ground which happened i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► think on multiple occasions right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► like it is are the things in broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► strokes the notebook computer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► the traditional one like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► have a detachable screen that turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► a tablet halfway you know does tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► do both is duplicating the form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► of the typewriter and of the adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► machine and of other things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► have done at desks for a long long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► way before their computers the iPad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► some ways it's like in your story there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► is duplicating a clipboard we again is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► long-standing form factor for getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► work done you don't think of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► work right but it's largely based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► context of where you are and it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► much just purely an argument or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► less really purely an argument about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► operating systems yeah the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► system could be you know going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► Steve Jobs is original comment about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► ipad like it's a blank slate all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► operating system really needs to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► get out of the way so that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► your work whether or not that I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► that operating system lets you run one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► app at a time or 20 apps at a time what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► the real question should be is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► easier to do my work on then the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► had before and if the answer is yes then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► then you get it then it becomes part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► your workflow I mean obviously assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► you have the money and all of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► like that's that's how it fits in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► know I carry a 9.7 inch iPad pro and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► macbook pro not because oh I want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► know duplicate the writing functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► on both and oh that's going to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► clunky blah blah blah I carry around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► ipad pro because there are times when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► want to sketch something out or there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► are times that i want to write free hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► and the ipad pro has essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► moleskine sketchbook that I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► carry around with my macbook pro um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► guess I could do that as a convertible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► tablet if I really wanted to but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► kill then we get into battery life comp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► talks you know that's the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► honestly my big thing about multiple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► know convertible devices if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► sketch I'm probably going to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► sketch for like you know six seven hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► or have that you know have that ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► to just kind of pull this iPad out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► whenever and just sketch on it whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► my laptop is the big you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► that's the thing that you carry around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► and do your powerhouse work on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► you're not at your desk and if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► a convertible where it's like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► you turn it into tablet mode and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► you kill most of your battery sketching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► on the train for instance and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► actually get to a point where you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► work then you have five percent battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► and you have to plug in at which point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► it's a desk computer again did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the there's a new Windows 10 don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► forget what they call these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► though the dual systems where they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► him okay what convertible at Myrtle's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► yeah yeah so a new one from porsche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► design which was it's not out yet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► was announced at the mobile web conde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► you CWC which and it looks nice it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► I'd like to see one but even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► looks nice and i think the hinge looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► much nicer than microsoft's surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► hinge which doesn't you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► it doesn't belittle it looks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► belongs in a in an alien movie or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► something yeah and and it means that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► two pieces don't sit flat there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► gap between them they only um I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► know that would bother me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► but with the push design one you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► though that both halves of the when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► in laptop mode both halves are about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► same thickness the base is about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► thick as the display so it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► thick tablet uh as compared to an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► like to me that design and it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► it it's never going to be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► laptop design and never going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► best tablet design but maybe if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► right and I'm wrong maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► optimizing for the middle is a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► but I can't help but think though that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► would always much rather have ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► laptop design or an ideal tablet design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► that can be put into a laptop that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► maybe not as nice one in laptop mode as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► this you know the dual design but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► least when I'm using it in one way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► as good as it can be yeah i would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► carry two devices and have each device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► be the best it possibly can be at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► specific task then try and carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► something that does all of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► like i don't need a Swiss Army knife for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► my electronics I need smart you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► dedicated electronics right and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► just some weird context switching that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► don't think I would ever get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► their where you're using a lower powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► processor when you're in tablet mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► like one of the big trade-offs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► tablet mode is this porsche design thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► is only advertised is getting three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► hours of battery life when separated oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► yeah well it's the same problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► surface book as well where it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► doesn't have the tablet does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► great battery life at all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► there's just so many trade-offs involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► it's so a middling product both ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► yeah I do see them I mean and and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► of this uh just a friend made the I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► you know it's one anecdote but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► know it meshes sort of would I see butts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► a friend was in a coffee shop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► recently and counted like you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► of people doing work or seemingly doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► work and it was like nine macbooks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► various ages like 1 regular windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► notebook and to like surface books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► no iPads nobody using an iPad at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► know at all and I could so I can see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► some people buy them and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► like you know I know who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► these people are doing but if it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► university students or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► that's probably a lot of writing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► like I said I think if you're doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► lot of writing it makes sense to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► doing it on a macbook and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► max are more popular for that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► thing mm-hmm but I don't know I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► why Apple isn't going that way yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► I I don't think Apple would go that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► unless they found the perfect way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► blend it right you know we didn't get we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► didn't get the iphone before it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► ready uh just because they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► cram well unless you count the motorola [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► rokr if you don't really we didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► product that was like let's turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► ipod and I and the mobile phone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► breakthrough internet communications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► device into one thing and have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► half-assed and not great like if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► going to do it they're gonna do it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► otherwise they're just not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► it it's going to sit in some development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► lab somewhere and never exist right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► it just doesn't make sense to me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► not that it doesn't make sense i see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► they came to that middling just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► well we've got a little bit of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► in this top part that you can take off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► but most of the battery is in the base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► and stuff like that I it makes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► sense to me to do it the ipad way where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► the ipad is the computer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► keyboard is just a dumb keyboard mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► the keyboard is easy and low power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► just works when it needs to work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► doesn't work when it doesn't and i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► like there's some kind of win that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► and or a third party but probably apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► because i think it would require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► something even better better smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► connector on the ipad but i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► there's there's got to be some way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► make the hinge better you know and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► make this make the take it from here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► is closed coming out of my backpack to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► set up in front of me on this table is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► laptop it's got to be a way to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► better i think yeah the the logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► create is pretty good except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► part where it's only one position and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► it was like if the logitech create they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► could find a way to build a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► connector that hinged right and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► immediately disconnect when you moved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► lot moved it like a little bit backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► or a little bit for words like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► found a way to make a logitech create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► that had a hinged backing but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► connected via the smart connector that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► would be the that would be the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► convertible if you really wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► convertible tablet like you didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► a laptop to do hardcore writing or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► multitasking on and you just want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► switch to ipad like that's what you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► want cuz that to me is a perfect example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► of one of the ways that I it's why I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► for me for me obviously I mean I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► know what I'm other than the podcast my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► work is writing and so for me I what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► do is work and you know ignoring email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► but if I decide not not to ignore my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► writing there to the laptop form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► is so much more conducive to my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► it's so much nicer for me for my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► I'm not denying that it's the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► around for other people but it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► one of those things that's so nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► especially if I'm away not at my regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► desk where everything is already set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► just so is that I can adjust the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► right and so if there's a weird light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► that's giving me a glare or whatever or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► I'm sitting with a different posture or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► it's a weird height table or chair you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► could just sit there and twist it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► know and get it perfect and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► exact iPads solutions you can't no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► unless you want to keep it flat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► table and work on the virtual keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► which sounds terrible well and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► though there's no configuration error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► flatten the tables flat in the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► yeah well I mean you do flat on a table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► and then you have an adjustable stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► like I'm using an adjustable stand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► now from elevation lab data like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► drafting stand that just multiple levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► right but that's still not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► configuration because then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► fiddle and it's it's not as easy as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► laptop just like BAM open done right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4842">TS</a>]
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01:20:48 ◼ ► rant on form factors all right let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4848">TS</a>]
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01:21:54 ◼ ► that happens in your house could wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► roof leak something like that ruins your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► computer ruins your backup drive now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► your backup isn't isn't worthwhile what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► if somebody comes in and steals your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► stuff that's terrible hope it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► happen to you but if you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► off-site backup you've got that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► protection there's no gimmicks no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► additional charges it's just five bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► per computer per month for unlimited on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► throttled off-site backup I have used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► personally for years I would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► it I would recommend it regardless if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► they were a sponsor but they are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► sponsor here's where you go Backblaze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► calm / daring fireball and you get a 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► for a 15 day free trial only have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► thing I had in my notes for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► well I could maybe talk about uber later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► little but there was a story this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► in a Wall Street Journal that came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► that got a lot of publicity where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► wasn't a hundred percent clearly written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► but it the way it was written could best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► be interpreted that the iphone this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► year's iPhone the fancied rumored new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► iphone with the ola curved OLED screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► was going to switch from the lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► adapter to a USBC port oh not another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► cable switch oh no they said Apple this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► mochizuki for The Wall Street Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► this is there's their sources familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► with their plans they said Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► introduce other updates including a USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► port for the power cord and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► peripheral devices instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► company's original lightning connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► these models would also do away with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► physical home button they said these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► updates would give the iPhone features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► already available on other smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► um I would just say with that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► sentence that no other smartphone has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► lightning connector so if they kept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► Lightning connector they'd have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► feature that's not available on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► seems weird that seemed weird to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► my guess and again I nobody told me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► damn tight on any little birdies but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► guess is if there's some kind of supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► that this reporter got it's that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► going to switch to it I think the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► pro works like this already weird it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► it's a USBC power brick and you plug USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► see into the power brick and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► goes to lightning on the other end for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► plugging into the device yep and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► what 29 watts and yes supercharged right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► now I don't know if the iphone is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► to ship with the 29 watt charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► probably not probably not but it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► ship with a higher wattage charger that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► charges more quickly and does USB 3 data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► speeds if you need that although I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► of feel like data speeds over anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► other than the network are sort of oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► but you know there's some professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► context like for video or filmers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► know and photography and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► where you might want to you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► that extra speed could be useful in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► iphone I don't know but yeah but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► charging speed is the big one if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► get a if you can charge faster that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► better charging faster is better the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► other reason why it would be good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► you know for photographers especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► now that Apple has allowed you to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► the the USB connector with the iphone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► with photos you can offload your raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► images direct to your you know 128 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► iphone it rather than having to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► around an ipad pro if you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► some just quick you know quick proofing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► or if you want to post something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► social media very quickly well you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► the midst of something like a live apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► event or something like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► exactly um yeah but at I it just did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5153">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► ring true to me because i do not think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► Apple as I just don't think they're ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► going to ship iOS devices with USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► seaports I know they could I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► there's some people who are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► hoping that they do because it would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► would simplify the universe in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► like where everybody's phone everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► phone bought within the last ex months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► or years can now use the same chargers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► but I don't think it makes sense from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► perspective and yeah are plenty of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► the sort of people who are wishing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► that are enlarged III think largely sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► of the nerdy type people who have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► know android and iOS devices around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► house and I think there's untold tens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► millions of people who just already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► an iphone and other people who they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► in the house have iphones and when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► buy a new iphone it would be nice if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► they could just keep using the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► lightning ports that are already around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► out yeah i don't want to have to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► my port right and from those people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► perspectives that switch from 30-pin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► lightning just happened yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► despite it being what four years ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► was months it was just a few weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► sorry hahaha it's still so fresh I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► have 30 pin connectors in my home right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► and I don't think Apple I think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► think Apple was the least bit surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► by the people who were upset by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► change but I also I us and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► it gave him any pause but i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► they're fully aware of gee you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► would be worse to do it again yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► nonsense the nonsense could potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► be terrible oh yeah when you you sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► that you wanted to talk about this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► definitely gave me and Renee pause when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► we first saw it as well because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► know we've seen stuff going on in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► and in Europe where you know Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► to ship adapters in the box to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► that everything's standardized with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► the EU Commission on charging devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► and making it easy for everybody but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► and large it's just I don't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► make sense to me to swap out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► Lightning port when the Lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► still does proprietary things that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► wants it to you know they swap out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► lightning to USB see I guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► still do made for iphone USBC devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► but I don't know how that licensing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► would work in there on top of that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► licensing USBC for a port I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► if that increases their you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► component costs in terms of using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► like that or whether they're just paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► a flat fee to use USB in general from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► the cut for them from the consortium I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► behind-the-scenes aspect in that what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► do know is we're eventually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► have to have us bc on one end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► that is where the computers are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► and from that aspect the rumor that us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► bc will be involved in a capacity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► you said as a charging capacity on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► other end of that cord that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► to me as like encourage consumers to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► hurry it up with the switching yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► there's other things that Apple can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► with lightning that people I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► again let's just get it out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► there is a very selfish they get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► made for iphone licensing thing makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► the company money and gives them control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► and limits what other companies can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► with iPhone peripherals and that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► in Apple's own selfish interest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► maintain that the angle that's good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► iphone users is really just it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► mass market look you've already got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► these cords all over your house and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► can just keep using them for years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► come but there's a little things to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► the fact that because lightning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► completely apple's proprietary thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► they can change it in software and a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► part of lightnings design is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► changeable in software so for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► that's why the lightning headphones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► they started shipping last year required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► you to update to iOS 10 like if you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► them into an iOS 9 device you got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► error message that said you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► update this device to iowa's tend to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► this peripheral because it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► software change that enabled them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► work mm-hmm and they can't do that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► they switch to an industry proprietary I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► proprietary stuff over the standard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► I don't think it's as easy you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► so I think that the change and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► surprised me which people piped up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► Twitter and you seem to think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► was reasonable and again it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► most ridiculous thing in the world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► if they if it turns out that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► if I'm wrong if the end they're worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► like ming-chi kuo of KGI the famed super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► well sourced analyst over there it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► out with a report like a day or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► after the Wall Street Journal report not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► calling him out by name but coming about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► as close as he could because the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► report was more or less no it's custard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► these new phones are still going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► lightning but they might have us bc on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► the power brick side and he even talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► about fast charging and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► so you know if he's wrong if i'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► and they really do ship a new iphone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► September and as us bc i wouldn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► it shocking i would just find it mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► surprising it's yet to play devil's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► advocate here let's say that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► decides to go the USBC route because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► makes more sense to them from a I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► know consortium perspective maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► they're getting pressured in the EU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► maybe it just makes more sense as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► continue to expand globally to just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► one universal port and not have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► about adapters and uncles or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► like that um I could see them switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► and just being like hey guys this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► new normal you know our MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► have USBC now now your iphones have USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► soon your you know the new imacs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► going to have us bc and this is our new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► standard charging port however i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► don't think it's good business sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► the company because of all the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► that we've mentioned before it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► makes more sense for them to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► control but and also i mean if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► at the rest of their peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► including the lightning based headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► that if you know they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► Lightning port it'll only be there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► year they just released brand new you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► know the air pods and the beats ex you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► know have lightning connectors and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► the older beats headphones you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► solo and the the power beats both still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► charge via mini USB or micro USB so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► one of those things where if if USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► standardization was coming down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► pipeline as this is going to be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► charging port now and forever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► you'd think that they would start it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► with the air pots and the beat Saxe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► all of their accessories that start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► have these things yeah the fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► the Apple pencils would essentially be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► be made useless down the line because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► they use lightning as well and could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► charge an Apple pencil via USB see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► that's a good question you know third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► third it's it's a if I yeah the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► rumor makes my head hurt honestly yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► think that the analogy to the headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► port is is exactly right except that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► should ignore the fact I that for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► they're shipping the iphones without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► headphone port with lightning headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► the Lightning headphones are a stopgap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► and yeah the real transition is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► wireless and it's just the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► there at this point it costs you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► 150 bucks or so for them to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► wireless ones that meet their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► that are as good as they think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► experience should be I think we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► have to wait a few years for the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► of those to come down but that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► hindsight five six seven years ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► look back and we don't really remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► the Lightning headphones error so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► oui oui vate in our memories it'll be we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► used to plug in headphones via the 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► year old headphone jack and now we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► wireless headphones yeah no one's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► to really think about it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► that's exactly what's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► with charging is that lightning is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► charging port for all of these devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► except for max until some sort of no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► port charging is the standard by which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► mean i have this whole rant that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► been meaning to go on about calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► conductive or inductive charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► whatever it is but when you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► still be in physical contact calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► that wireless charging because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► not work that's not wireless no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► just it's well i mean it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► wireless from the phone to the pad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► there's still water still wired yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► like an apple is actually pretty careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► about it like Apple does not describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► having wireless charging because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► doesn't it it's inductive charging right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► so I don't know where we're going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► that I don't know if like the next step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► is going to be inductive charging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► these devices or if it'll be a true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► wireless thing where it doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► have to be in physical contact and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► can just have it in general proximity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► and it'll magically shoot power over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► air mm-hmm not make us full of cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► yeah I think that's the big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► there right now okay well you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► mean Wi-Fi hasn't killed us yet so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► true i'm off to it just sounds weird 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► years and counting right it's like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► we first started using Wi-Fi really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► weirded me out it's like this seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► it should be impossible this I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► then you just think like these razors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► these waves are shooting through me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► right now my body is full of Gigaba and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► let's not even talk about cell phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► all these memes inside me right but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► know I until we can do that until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► can get their their Apple Gibbs wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► get rid of ports not replace ports with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► one from another a green and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► give two craps about proprietary over or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► they get they give a crap but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► you know they see proprietary is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► strength not as a weakness correct and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► do think it's super telling that the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► pods have a lightning adapter mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► they could they could have had us bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► they absolutely could have shipped with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► the USBC charging brick and they chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► not to all right and it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► a big towel I think mm-hmm I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► it's weird it is it's funny I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► why the pencil works the way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► does and in terms of having a male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► lightning instead of a female lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► so that it it's less convenient way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► you just want to plug your pencil into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► something you already have laying around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► your house but it's more importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► it's whenever you want to use a pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► you must have an ipad pro nearby to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► it on and if the pencil is out you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► just plug it into the ipad for 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► seconds and get a usable charge out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► it's not but it literally it looks silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► it's not elegant but it's a very its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► practicality winning out over elegance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► where's the air laws in comparison are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► one of the most it's it's just I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► stop raving about how I love every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► single aspect of it including the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► that to charge it you can just plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► into any iphone charger you have laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► around for a couple of minutes once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► week or so exactly you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► worry about it and if your buds ever go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► dark you just pop them in the case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► it's it's very seamless honestly can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► sell you my biggest wish for the rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► iPads yes i want i want wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► charging real wireless charging area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► charging for the pencil built into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► mythical 10-point inch at my 5-inch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► ipad right where if you're in bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► proximity you're going to charge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► which I just think would be amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► because then that way the pencil never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► dies it just it charges it whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► know it's nearby and if you have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► contact then maybe they figure out some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► way to like induct a charge through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► through the display right where whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► you're drawing on it it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► sending a tiny charge through the tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► into the pencil I don't I know nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► about engineering so all this may sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► like crazy talk and it probably is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► that is my dream self on ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► impossible for them to announce that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► right now in March 2017 i I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► either I don't know I have no idea if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► is boy that would be a huge selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► point and I can't I would imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► that's the sort of thing that would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► people who bought a pencil a year ago to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► buy a new one oh yeah in a heartbeat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► a new iPad because you need a new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► it because it gets rid of the awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► lightning it gets through that right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► let's presume in it and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► they could get rid of the cap yeah in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► the naked it you could add a racer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► you really wanted the cap is a huge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► know if people complain about the cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► because the cap is easily lost mm-hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► you get rid of the cap it's entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► self-contained so then it's it's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► super Apple like right no input no right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► and it really is i was just talking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► a friend the other day about how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► his biggest gripe with the i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► it is ben thompson this mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► sources but he loves a pencil but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► doesn't use it all the time but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► in range of your ipad when your iPad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► on there they communicate with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► other so that it's ready for you to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► but it's always a range of his ipad when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► his ipad is on because he's taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► out of the same bag right he's got a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► exactly he's got a bag that he keeps his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► pencil and his ipad in and so even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► he's not using the pencil and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► reading on the ipad it's slowly draining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► communication and then when he does go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► to use the pencil it's always dead yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► exactly the pencils always at five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► percent because the pencil doesn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► understand the difference between i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► sitting in your bag ready to be used and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► i'm being drawn with actively and need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► battery life right and the reason this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► is mildly annoying as instead of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► infuriating is because it doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► that long to give the pencil a usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► charge but still it happens every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► and if your idea illinois your idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► would solve this problem yeah well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► it's a step further from what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► already do with smart connector right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► where the smart connector to me feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► like this in between Earth stage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► it is solved the need for Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► keyboards at least the bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► keyboards that the keywords that use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► smart connector it solved that need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► those keyboards to constantly be charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► separately it's just do I want to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► keyboard with my ipad today cool I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► just going to set it up and because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► the way that the smart connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► connects like hooks into the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► it's good and if they figured out a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► to wirelessly charge devices then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► could have variable stand keywords to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► would be really cool that would be cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► and it's and it's definitely I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► it's the definite situation circling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► back to what I said before where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► an awful lot of people who only use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► their iPad with a keyboard sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► because the whole point of why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► using an iPad is they're often using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► iPad in these contexts where you either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► don't want to keep word or don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► keyboard or you know it's just not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► important that you have a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► do that do that do that do that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► thing that's great about the the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► connector is then when you do need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► keyboard you don't have to worry if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► charged yeah exactly you just throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► on use it and then put it away and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► you can forget about it for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► three months yeah yeah that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► idea i hope you're right i hope i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► right to uh you want talk about uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► quickly yeah let's talk about over boy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► I don't know what to do I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► I'm going to confess something gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► honest and straightforward um because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► don't feel I feel like that's the did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► did I I feel guilty otherwise and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► guilty about what I'm about to say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► going to confess I i have not deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► the uber app from my phone i also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► not deleted the / f from my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► despite the fact that i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► company is despicable we haven't used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► since then i have but i also haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► deleted it I've used I have juice tue / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► because there's the only one that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► get a black car in Philadelphia and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► black cars have SUVs and sometimes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► I went out to dinner with some friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► and we needed it we need to defeat five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► adults in the car hmm so I still use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► and I justify it in my head as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► know they're losing money on every ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► defenseless bc right but I feel terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► about it and it would it's and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► know at some point it's it's you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► don't know what I want is I want lift to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► connect to these black card drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► black card drivers I think would jump at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► it yeah i mean i don't think at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► point anybody is like yes I love working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► for uber I am proud to work maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► Travis what's-his-face well the drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► are ya know but that's I'm saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► like think the drivers are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► looking for other options if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► they still want to you know they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► drive in the car sharing economy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► it's a good way right now to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► at least until the bottom falls out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► I I don't think any of them is like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► stood right by me because the upper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► not really stood right by anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► they've kind of been huge dicks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► got to be a way and I know that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► understand that my argument that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► that they're losing money on every ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► that that's actually their plan and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► you know that the basic idea it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► really a secret is that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► monopolize the market and then once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► have the monopoly in a market they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► raise the rates to where it's profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► um I'm not quite sure how they ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► there because at the point where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► raised the rates I don't see how new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► competitors don't pop up like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► see how they have a real path to to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► monopoly no because and their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► argument is is they're destroying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► existing regulations it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6298">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► they're going to get new regulations put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► in place that that say that in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► of Philadelphia Bluebird is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► ride-sharing app available yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► not going to boot benefit uber they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► going to benefit all ride sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► companies right well which you know 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► might pop up I can see them getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► monopoly status right by taking down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► cabs if the cabs don't form up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► create their own rival company which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► some have already done I can see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► getting to that point but like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► at the issue where they start having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► raise rates then it becomes okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► who has the cheapest service it's a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► to the bottom a little bit and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► honestly depends on whether or not VCS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► are willing to take that risk and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► like yeah I'm gonna fund this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► because uber it needs to be taken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► it's gotten too big too big you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► to violent or does it turn into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► thing where the VCS are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► well we're just not going to fund new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► transportation center startups because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► no one's figured out how to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6358">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► profitable without price gouging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► consumers I and I want it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► there's so many things though is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► like Silicon Valley's version at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► Trump administration where there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► it there's a new scandal every day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► even by three dollar you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► you react like a daily list of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► scandals doesn't keep up with the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► you know I mean like if you only paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► like it we're recording this on Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► March third like on Thursday March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► second if you only paid attention at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► noon the news was a president Trump says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► attorney general Jeff session does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► need to recuse himself but by six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► o'clock in the night he'd recused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► himself it's a hint you have to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► every three hours to see what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► and it's the same with uber but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► like there was a thing this week where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► an uber driver had taped a yeah he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► recognized that he had Travis kalanick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► as his passenger in a car and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► videotaped it uh and kallik had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► some somewhat embarrassing things to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► driver somewhat yeah but I I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► didn't think it was outrageous it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► know I mean and I'm vaguely I'm just hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► I'm vaguely uncomfortable with the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► that he taped them in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► and I don't think what he said was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► that outrageous it was a little rude but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► it I thought the driver was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► nutty too yeah the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► there's already the narrative right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► there's already the narrative that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► a jerk and a horrible person get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► caught on tape doing anything jerkish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► yeah and it and it blows up even further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► right exactly i think that serenity I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► think that's exactly what happened where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► it's like everybody knows that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► travis kalanick is is at least a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► a jerk and that he's been him and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► company in from caught doing really jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► exceptionally jerky things lately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► you here and he secretly taped saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► something and what he said is at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► somewhere on the jerky spectrum and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► you just jump to the worst conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► whereas I think if I actually watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► video and I was like this isn't that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► yeah it's not it's not that big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► speaking speaking of how it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► like a new over story pops up every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► literally while we're recording this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► verge Dateline 40 minutes ago it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► game line though New York Times via the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► verge via the New York Times reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► that uber has a secret worldwide program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► called grave all to hide from government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► employees looking to catch uber cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► regulations because this yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► even know what to say about this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► literally as we're saying hey uber just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► keeps on getting caught doing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► horrible stuff now there's another I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► don't know oh yeah like this is the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► sounds like something that is a mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► shady company would it would go for be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► like yeah let's run some software to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► make sure you don't pick up passengers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► who might be governed of employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► because we're breaking labor practices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► in certain cities there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► whole lot to unpack there so it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► like what they did is when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► instead in municipalities where uber was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► deemed to be contrary to the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► regulations uber would appoint somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► to figure out where the regulators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► offices were and then look for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► opening the uber app on a frequent basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► from those locations and then I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► not not pick them up show fake cars it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► also checked the credit card information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► to see if the card was tied to a police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► credit union Wow but unknown to mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► England and other authorities I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► this was the guy from Portland some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► the digital cars they saw in the app did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► not represent actual vehicles and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► uber drivers they were able to hail also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► quickly cancelled that was because uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► colleagues essentially gray balling them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► collected from the app and in other ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► so yeah not a good company no not a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► having a great week as far as PR goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► but the thing that I wanted to bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► was that among this you know avalanche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► of these things some of the one story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► that to me is the Sun to the planets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► of these these other scandals are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► series of planets but the one at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► center of it is Susan Fowler Righetti's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► story of her year-long employee yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► which to me is is different because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► I've reread her entire piece like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► least three times it's extraordinarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► well written and I'm guessing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► you've noticed the ways that it's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► written because absolutely it's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► written on like three different levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► where she makes her case extremely well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► she obviously had her wits about her for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► the entire year that she worked right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► from the beginning when it first she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► first started to be harassed but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► documented it and she kept emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► screenshots of chats uh and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► clear from her writing that she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► back it all up um yeah but also the tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► that she took in the article is it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► it's not necessary is not the right word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► but it it was taken from a way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► she couldn't be easily dismissed and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► it's the sort of tonal tap-dancing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► a woman has to take that a man doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► even have to think about yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► written you're absolutely right in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► of the I'm trying to think of the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► word here it was written in a very level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► platform where she's basically like hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► all these accusations that I'm laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► out but I'm not laying them out in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► that makes me sound especially angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► right or especially vindictive towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► the company right she was she basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► laid it out almost factually almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► a lawyer would lay out here here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► things that happened to me on this date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► this happened on this date this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► but not written so droll II that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► know you can't read between the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► and actually get a good picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► what's happening the Nate that specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► nature of the harassment that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► experienced is very specific to being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► woman in a largely male company where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► male on female harassment is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► tolerated at an institutional level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► it so as you can't just say if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► tables were turned and it was reversed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► because there's no such equivalent there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► there's no company in the world that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► like the uber for women where men at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► 50 to 1 ratio as engineers get harassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► but if a man had suffered the moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► equivalent of of this wrongdoing at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► know in some of the other than sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► harassment or some other way just but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► just something that everybody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► agree was equally wrong on the moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► spectrum a man would document it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► way where I don't think he would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► even think about hiding his anger at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► what had gone on and what was tolerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► whereas she did not hide but but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► tap dance between coming across as angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► and not crossing the line into acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► like it's a joke or it's not serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► yeah she had to pitch it very much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► you said between the Lions because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► retribution I mean we've all been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► following the stories and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► uber has gone you know potentially sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► lawyers after her this week and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► know you know the fact how factual that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► is or where the where that stands right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► now beyond her claims but the mere fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► that like she had to write this in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► a way because she was worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► retribution from a company that arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► she has a pretty darn good lawsuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► against to begin with on whereas as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► said a man could very easily just write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► the angriest of angry medium Rantzen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► just paid you know like this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► happened to me and how dare this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► and this is a disgusting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► violation of human rights and and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► rights as a human like my rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► personally and blah you know I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► even write in that tone because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► makes me want to vomit but it's yeah in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► the end also honestly in comparison I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► believe you you linked to a medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► article by one other woman who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► about her her experiences and hers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► also very chilling and very bothersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► but she wrote it in a much in a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6896">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► vaguer more not quite salacious style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► but it was definitely written as more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► of a you know here's here's a peek into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► my life whereas Susan Fowler's was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► much you know removed her emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► analytically and it you know there's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► the truth is that an angry woman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► going to be dismissed by X percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► people who read her mostly men but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► some women you know it's there's a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► who's angry in public is is gets a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► different reaction and it very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► adjectives are used to describe her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► emotional state than a man with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► equivalent amount of anger and I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► know I I feel a certain about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► statement I also feel like even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► I'm certain of it and I'm incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► sympathetic to it I don't even feel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► feel like part of the reason that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► the case is that uh you know I'm not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► a position to even judge it right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► it's yeah it like I can judge what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► they did to Susan Fowler but I'm not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► I feel like as a man especially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► with every privilege you could possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► possibly have in this country I'm not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► a perv I'm not in a position to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► just how how how how widespread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► unfairness is in terms of how we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► deal with things like angry thank people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► professional context but yet she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► obviously is very well very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► with it well you know you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► verbal gymnastics that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► thread especially working in a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► like that you know she had a year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► experience having to dance through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► clearly the insanity of the HR process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► and her higher-ups um coming out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► you know you're gonna know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► second that you write a piece like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► unfortunately the second that a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► writes a piece like that the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► that a certain subsection of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► internet is going to do is try and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► ways of proving that she's crazy or she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► Mall aspect of it isn't true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► therefore the whole thing is in question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► the whole thing is null and void exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► oh she cheated on a test when she was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► the seventh grade so she's untrustworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► you know or she claims this one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► happened on the you know the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► monday of july 2015 because what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► was a federal holiday it was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► Independence Day Boober was closed yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► exactly it actually happened July third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► right but she lied there for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► thing is called into question utley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► there is a certain subsection of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► population that delights in trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► poke holes and stories like these and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► don't think that you know we should take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► everything at face value obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► there's there is value to be had in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► checking and not believing stories you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► know without without doing some digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► but there's a difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► independent verification and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► and just going after somebody because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► they're saying something that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► want to be true so you immediately jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► into attacking the first possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► opportunity it would occurs to me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► and I just can't say it enough and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► sounds trite but just how courageous it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► was for her to publish this because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► didn't have our name under her own name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► which it gives it you know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► saying it's necessary i got the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► mentioned it was published under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► pseudonym and she admitted it upfront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► she said I'm not comfortable sharing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► name this is a pseudonym so there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► misdirection there but you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► again I I'm not saying that that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► useful and courageous in and of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► but doing it under her own name is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► courageous and it leaves more credence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► to it because she clearly knew to expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► a backlash and I think it's obvious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► you read the story and the part did to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► me were you just the part of her story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► where you just go whoa was the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► where many months into her employment at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► I mean any other reason why i should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► this is that she now works at stripe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► hasn't she's already landed another job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► she doesn't have to you know she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► employability she's got a great job at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► great company so it'd be easy to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► say you know what now I have a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► at a great company thank god that's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► and and let it go um but by coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► public and and you know it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► the most well-known she's ever been you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► know she's a published author at a Riley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► but so am I saying it's not like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► hasn't had a you know stuff in a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► eye before but it's a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► I the hole that the part of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► where you really just go I just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► whoa was the part where she and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► other women engineers at uber months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► later talking amongst themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► realized they all had problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► same guy I manager above them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► several of them had reported their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► incidents 20 bers HR department and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► of them were told the same thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► well this is we you know thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► reporting it but we're uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► taking any action against him at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► time because it's his first offense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► he's a high performer yeah and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► whoa so they just say that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► realize well how did they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► they were going to get away with it how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► would you know how do they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► eventually some of these women would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► figure this out in a company one wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► to talk about right it's all based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► the assumption that even if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► they'll get the message that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► let you know this stuff is okay for high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► performers and yeah let sleeping dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► lie what are they going to do go public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► that they're they seem like instead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► at a certain whether it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► stated or just unconscious between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► HR people who made the decision to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► deal with it this way HR clearly assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► at Hoover clearly assumed that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► women would none of these women would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► public yeah well because it's it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► much of a risk right um it's a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► again we go back to the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► credibility issue you may never land a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► job again if you're if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► your facts in your story and things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► back things up a unit to back your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► evidence up there's Susan Fowler Getty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► by going public under her own name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► with as much scathing detail as she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► was willing to do something that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► company valued at 70 billion dollars was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7317">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► willing to bet she wouldn't yep which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► yeah and you talk about courageous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► know people have been saying under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► radar don't go work for uber don't go or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► especially if you're a woman but just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► general it's just not a good culture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► there really hasn't been somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► standing up on a chair and yelling no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► don't go work for uber because you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► be sorry until Fowler like there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► there wasn't that kind of like damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► nning public skate like see I won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► invent like skater II a new word because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► but that's but no it's it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► scathing critique of not only the HR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► department I don't know how the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► who work in that age tired department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► have spines or stomachs at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► like I wonder how many people have quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► in that department specifically over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► years and also I forget from the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► but I wonder the gender of the HR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7377">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► department liaisons to I think she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► that some of them were women yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► just if that's a big ol punch I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► even yeah that's that's a that's strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► me just such a betrayal to to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► say to somebody's face sorry we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► gonna do anything about your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► your emotional or physical harassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► despite the fact that it could happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► anybody you know we're just we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► gonna look in your face and say no no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► yeah that's the kind of thing that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► me want to never use their service again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► and just like I commend everybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► deleted the app and burned it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► yeah all right I gotta delete the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► yeah you gotta it's gone I will say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► outspoken critics I I've long followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► I'm sure I don't know if you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► but I'm sure you've aware of her sour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► lacy founder of oh yeah hand Oh calm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► she has been on the uber is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► terrible company beat four years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► we're path it's so the difference I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► would say is that she's always been from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► career she's been writing about it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► the outside as a journalist observing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:22 ◼ ► the company um not as an insider that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7462">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► the difference treating her and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► Fowler yeah she can only get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► anonymous quotes and you know hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► people wanting to go on the record but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► it's not gonna it's ultimately all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► scoops in the world are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► help you in contrast with someone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► coming straight out and telling their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► story yeah so anyway I felt like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► to talk about it glad we did oh yeah uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► anything else you want to mention before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► we wrap up gosh I think media we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► ran the gamut I know we caught up I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► like I got caught up to the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► although who knows God Almighty this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► probably like another boobers game scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► know in the next the last 30 minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► revolt yeah in the 24 hours it usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► takes four shows to get published we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► never make it there's gonna be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► this little break doubtedly this news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► cycle that's that's what I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► talk about I'd like to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► pause button could someone make me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► home kit and pause button for the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► cycle please no news hey everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► read a serenity fine work at I more calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► and on Twitter your twitter name is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► forget what's your twitter name veteran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► how do you spell SE tter n yes that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► fine follow on twitter anything else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► want to mention or pitch oh gosh other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► than the we're doing a lot of work on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► iPad pros specifically people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► doing real worlds iPad examples so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► you have if you're using your iPad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► work especially if it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► outside the norm that you think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► pretty awesome please hit me up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► Twitter or on email at serenity a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► or because I'd love to hear your story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► we're collecting some really good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► all right I will definitely put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► into the series iPad pros / it I more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► but I think it's great as it gets I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:12 ◼ ► think it's in a really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7572">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► think about it and cut in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► context where these where and what these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► people are doing not just show they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► doing the same things they used to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyxTPzM/7579">TS</a>]
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