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Cortex 47: Picking Up the Breadcrumbs

 

00:00:00   we have a secret we have a secret that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   we've kept from our listeners gray we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   it's not a big scandal I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   should we'd make it out to be a scandal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   no that's no that's no that's asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   trouble okay no scam that's asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   trouble no but we do have a secret the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   last two episodes of cortex were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   recorded back to bank mmm they were we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/20">TS</a>]

00:00:24   are optimizing we were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/24">TS</a>]

00:00:25   optimize right trying to improve our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   work clothes all about were clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   improvement on this show hmm so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   recorded two episodes back to back now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   why did we do this you should be great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   feel like you are trying to blame this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   all on me Mike I know I really looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/38">TS</a>]

00:00:42   for your insight into why we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   undertake an experiment of this of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   nature let's just say this is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/47">TS</a>]

00:00:51   gray industries attempts at doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/51">TS</a>]

00:00:56   experiments in time reorganization over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   2017 perhaps one could say redirecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   how time is spent in ways big and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06   ways small so this this was a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   we decided to try and what I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   curious to see is if anybody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   notice if there was any suspicion not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   one person and he comes in the reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   nothing and i have to say i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   pleased because to me listening to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   show the second show that we recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   immediately after recording the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   one I just kept thinking oh it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   obvious it's so obvious that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/91">TS</a>]

00:01:32   recorded immediately after we make no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   reference to anything that's happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   time there were a few sections in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   that I thought were a little weird we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   didn't follow up at all on the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   show and the previous show I think was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   show that kind of begged for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   follow-up like more than maybe any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   show that we have ever done I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   really begged for some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   acknowledgment of like kind words from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   people but like no there was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   because we immediately recorded it after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   the very first one and I have to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   was pretty pleased that nobody nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   caught us in the act of a double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   recording now I'll say this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   people that are gonna pop up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   reddit thread and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   like oh I knew it I don't believe any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   you not wanna be ya now feller leave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   don't believe me cuz why didn't you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   it don't believe you okay III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   believe it either it's one it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   cognitive bias that is occurring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   you're now going to remember that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   thought it was obviously recorded at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   same time but you didn't say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   it's like if you change bit rates on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   podcasts and people like oh I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32   totally tell but they don't say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   until after you've done it yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   been in that situation yeah he you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/157">TS</a>]

00:02:42   the bitrate no one complains no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   notices but if you tell them in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   you'll hear howls of protest over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48   download limits on their cellular plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   or whatever howdy yeah exactly how dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/170">TS</a>]

00:02:55   you uh but yeah so I think it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   interesting experiment the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   nobody noticed I think makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   essentially a success yeah and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   that it came out well as well I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   were above concerned that the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   wouldn't be very good because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   it's like a mammoth recording session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   mm-hmm but I was I was pleased with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   the output it did come out much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   than I expected and i also think we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   doing it under the worst of all possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   circumstances that we were recording a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   relatively serious first episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   then transitioning into a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   normal second episode and i did really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   feel in that second recording like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   not quite on the ball and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   looking back on it when i was doing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   of the pass-through edits on it i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   hear myself not explaining things as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   well as i might imagine that a fresh me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   would have explained those things but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   could be wrong about that because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   always amazed by when i listened back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   myself on a podcast how poorly i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   previous me explained the ideas in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   head this is a regular occurrence for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   you you always feel like you never do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   good enough job but just pushes you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   be better and better every time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   do you not have that Mike when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   listen back to the show you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   this experience of feeling like who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   this idiot trying to explain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   doesn't bother me okay but do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   it at all are you aware that you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   poor job of explaining your idea I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   have as many ideas to explain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   so I don't really worry about it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   much it doesn't bother me it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   bother me because I'm very aware of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   constraints that we're in I prepare as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   much as I prepare but I know that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   now and then we're just gonna talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   instantaneously for a while not try not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   to be too hot myself your perfectionist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   this your problem I I disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   I'm not a perfectionist I would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   prefer that I explain things much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   than I actually do I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   perfectionist I just wish it was perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   that's all I care about well I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   we're getting into wishing territory yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   of course if I have a if I have a bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   full of wishes over here that I can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   then yes let's make things perfect but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   actual perfection requires infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   effort which I'm not willing to expend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   but anyway put in putting all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   aside I think even under non ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/306">TS</a>]

00:05:12   circumstances I think it came out pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   well and so I would regard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   experiment as a win so we're not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   about this purely so we can have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   gotcha moment over the audience there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   a there's a solid reason for this which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   is that it takes us a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   record these episodes we have currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   been on the phone for 90 minutes have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/329">TS</a>]

00:05:35   yeah because it takes us a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   get ourselves ready to actually record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   this is true by the time we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   completed our boot up sequence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   pre-flight check lists so if we record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/343">TS</a>]

00:05:48   two episodes back to back in theory it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   is less time spent overall in recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   the episodes so that's kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   idea of why are we doing this we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   going to record every episode like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   but it's what the reason that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   doing this is it gives us more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/361">TS</a>]

00:06:02   flexibility to put episodes out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   consistently especially as you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   looking at the way that you spend your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08   time more analytically and more closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   this year so it is a way for us to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13   if like if we're under a time constraint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   can we still get episodes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   frequency in a way we could do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   by banking them more often yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   that's what we're looking at is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   are some points in the year where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   going to be more difficult to record on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/387">TS</a>]

00:06:31   a bi-weekly schedule and so we wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   see if this was even possible to do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   if it turned out just to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   exhausting to try to do two episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   back to back and it's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   think about this in terms of any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   kind of work late I am really aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   any day that I'm recording a podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   a is a very different day in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   there's there's a meeting essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   that's taking place later in the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   so I'm always aware in the morning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   there's there's this sort of constraint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   that whatever I'm doing it means to wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   up by a certain time because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   this meeting that's taking place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   that there needs to be recording for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   so that always kind of limits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   potential activities that can be done on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   that day and then there are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   things like like you said we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   whole process of getting ready to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/440">TS</a>]

00:07:24   the podcast sort of chatting about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   ahead of time go running through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   show notes doing all of this other kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   of things and so doing to it once is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   bit like any other batch processing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36   work that occurs then that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   like batch processing is maybe one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/459">TS</a>]

00:07:44   the very first things about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47   productive that I really learned a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   time ago and like the pre getting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/470">TS</a>]

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00:07:54   tasks together at the same time don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/474">TS</a>]

00:07:58   don't switch between lots of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   tasks do similar things together and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/479">TS</a>]

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00:08:11   you have a meeting you get two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12   instead of one or like even just today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   for some reason like my audio equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   wasn't working quite right and have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   fuss with it for a little bit it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   great one futzing with audio equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/499">TS</a>]

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00:08:32   it was very exhausting it's not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   that I plan to do every single time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/513">TS</a>]

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00:08:41   that it's that it is there in lieu of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   time when there wouldn't be a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   this is a thing that we can possibly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/526">TS</a>]

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00:08:52   me like went well and part of my job was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   dealing with getting things printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   something getting things printed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   Center people Lou and the surprise for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/538">TS</a>]

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00:09:04   things that you need printed didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   change the cost equally right you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   have a hundred thousand things printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/550">TS</a>]

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00:09:14   it might be twelve thousand pounds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/554">TS</a>]

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00:09:17   to me it's like what there's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   them and it's because I quickly found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   out that so much of the cost is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   turning the machines on right right once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   the machines are on and the plates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   printed for the likes of the things can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   be stamped out or things can be inked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/569">TS</a>]

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00:09:36   everything else from there is cheaper so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/576">TS</a>]

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00:09:39   by the time we get everything out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/579">TS</a>]

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00:10:21   it was like an out of time and out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/621">TS</a>]

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00:10:32   those episodes be a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   interesting and special than just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/634">TS</a>]

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00:15:08   this is how this is how normal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   live that you just sort of know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   things that you need to do maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   write a few of them down but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   have a real system for keeping track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   absolutely everything that is watertight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   under all circumstances and I I simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/920">TS</a>]

00:15:24   don't understand how people can possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   live like that because I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   figure out how to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/928">TS</a>]

00:15:31   in the future which is just turning into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/931">TS</a>]

00:15:32   a much bigger project than I initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   expected but not having a current system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/934">TS</a>]

00:15:39   in place that is what I want it to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   i find it somewhat somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   anxiety-inducing i am very aware of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   brain burning calories thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/947">TS</a>]

00:15:51   stuff that i know it like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   whole thing that my previous system got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   rid of is the like I don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   about anything because I just know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   everything is going to be and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   is no longer the case so I'm aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   my brain wants to be more anxious than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08   it normally than it normally would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   but I'm viewing this as an investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/970">TS</a>]

00:16:14   that is worth making in trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   refigure out what it is that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   do but so no I don't have a like Oh F [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/977">TS</a>]

00:16:21   I've come down from the mountain with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   some answers and and I may I may never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   well do that i may just end up creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   some squirrely thing that is is just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   me the way i want it to work but i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   say it's been kind of interesting living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   like a Normie i guess for the past few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37   months uh yeah it's been interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   it's been an interesting thing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   completely no more though I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   didn't fire your assistant or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   you know you're not a Normie gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48   someone's picking up the bread crumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   that you're dropping yes that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   definitely true that someone is picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   up the bread comes that I'm dropping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   related to that the one the one change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:01   that I have made which I can report on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   which it relates to this very section is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   that I have moved from Wunderlist with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:10   my assistant to todoist oh so I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:14   some todoist experience in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   conversation but we have we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   switched our collaboration tool and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:23   just say for vastly better it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   it's a big improvement and so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   that is one thing that has definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   happened that is interesting so what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   your experiences with Steaua Smike so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   want to talk about a few a few aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   of it so some of them are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   that make to do a superior and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   them the more tricky for me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:44   previous OmniFocus user so the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   reason that I decided I wanted to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   this move which I have spoken about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   spoke about it on the last episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   the integrations but now I have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   time to play with them what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56   todoist interesting to me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   todoist has a fundamental understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   of the web there is an API there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:04   web version of todoist and it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:07   fact that it has this understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   kind of modern automation conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   and stuff like that that is appealing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   me omnifocus is very shut off from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18   rest of the world we spent a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   talking about it in the past like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   excited we were when we could finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   have templates and that they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   code for OmniFocus so we could do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   with it from other applications but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   still on device everything is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   on device and you have to ask OmniFocus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   to do something or plug something into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   it but to do 'used things can happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:41   the background you can have tasks added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   by services where you've never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   opened todoist only I have a workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:49   which I'll put in the show notes which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   can run from anywhere on iOS i can add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   links to it i can add i can at times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   can add notes and to do it is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:59   opened everything is just done in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   workflow app from wherever i want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   it on the system and the task is added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   in the background because it's added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   wired to do is say P I hmm there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   other things that I have hooked up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   some web automation tools like zapier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   and IFTTT they're able to add things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:18   I'm still digging around with zappia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   I want to spend more time talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   this service specifically in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   because it is like Charlie and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:30   Chocolate Factory this service is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:36   incredible like I've built some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   zaps as they call them which are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   things that I've wanted for so long like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   new we use fresh books for our invoicing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:47   at relay FM and I now have the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   in our in a slack channel to see every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:54   time one of those people that we invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   when the responses that we work of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   time they they log in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   and do something in freshbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   FreshBooks knows this we're now using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   zappia that information is piped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   our slack so we're able to see every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   time somebody logs in and looks at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   invoice without ever being in freshbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   zapier is allowing that for us yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   really allows you to connect a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   bunch of stuff like if you ever used if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   this then that and then you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   zapier like I've been trying to slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:25   transition all the stuff that i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   if this then that to over to zapier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   because it's so much more powerful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   when using zapier it makes you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:34   apiaries is like like a constructor set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   where you can build all kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   and it makes if this then that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   it's duplo yeah like what does those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   lego blocks that are for real babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   like a gigantic Lego blocks that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   it is okay that's what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   you've got like the Lego stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   mindstorms right like the stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   can actually build robots with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   overruns a beer and then you've got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   little little fisher-price I have TTP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   over there in the corner IFTTT is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   for for getting your feet wet with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   stuff but like the great thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   zappia is like you can have one action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   trigger things in multiple other web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   services right there are multiple stages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   you can build is really very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   yeah and what I also like is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16   can you can do the thing which I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   wanted if this and that to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   forever which is have a some very basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   logic operators like if this occurs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   also these filtering conditions match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:30   then do the thing I think that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   know just even just the tiniest amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   of that makes it makes it so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   powerful so I've got to recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   people try out say p ER and just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44   little as a little sidebar here i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   like in my past couple months of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50   exploring with stuff really ever since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   started with using toggle and their api [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:57   for doing the time tracking i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   i've had my eyes open to this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   world that i have been intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   avoiding yep me too buddy yeah which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   like this this whole world of web AP is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:12   and I had a real moment of realizing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:16   need to learn a new skill here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:20   mentioned on two shows ago or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   was last show an amount of shows in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   past and amount of shows ago because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   because of the recording that I was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   I was playing around with Trello as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   way to just visually move around work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   and i'm really liking Trello like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   it's an interesting way to just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   some stuff and Trello is like zapier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   like like slack like toggle like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   these things it has a Web API l yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   so I was playing around with the NS as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   inevitably would happen anytime i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   working with the tool eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   realize oh there are some things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   would want to enter the same way all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   time if i was using this looks like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   we go like you're starting to build up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   some kind of template right and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:03   playing around and with workflow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   looking and seeing oh how can i get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   workflow app to automatically add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   bunch of cards to Trello if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   trigger a thing all right and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   disappointed because in the workflow app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   there's only a few options for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   kinds of information you can add to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   Trello card where it can go it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   relatively limited and it was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   moment it dawned on me I thought wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   minute but what is the workflow app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   doing it must be talking to some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   toggle API that exists out there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   web and so I googled around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   eventually found it and I realized oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   okay Trello has an API where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:42   affect everything about the cards like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   literally everything is available there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   and then I suddenly realized ah ok all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:51   of these apps are doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   they're using web URLs and the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:57   API is to talk to each other and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   a thing that I need to seriously sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   down and learn as a skill because if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06   learn this skill then I'm not dependent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   on the workflow app guys making a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:12   premade template that's easy for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   use it's like no no I can just program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   the thing directly to talk to the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   api's and I feel like that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   moment I realize like this is what a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   modern automation particularly on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:28   device like an iPad is going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   like and I think that that was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   real realization that I feel like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   had in the past couple months like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   this Web API world like this is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   powerful than I ever gave it credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   and I always used to be prioritizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:47   apps that could work on an airplane that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   would work in offline mode where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   wouldn't have to connect to any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   web service but I think something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   shifted in my mind to finally really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   understanding the value of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   yep like if I am using a tool that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:06   an impact on my work my feeling now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:10   it has to have an API because I am fed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:15   up of giving this data to a system which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:19   keeps it mmm because there is no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:23   for that to happen anymore I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   able to tidy things together and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   not close to what you're doing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   level that which I'm doing this but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   getting interested and so that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   I've started doing things where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   I've had a problem that I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   solve and i am now like in the mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   of like why don't I try and build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   thing hmm and I've been doing that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   some with some work flows like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   I've I've been able to build some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   workflows now which I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   previously just continued doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   the same way and these services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   becoming more and more important for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   as I continue to do my work due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   optimize and with something we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   talk about later on the show with hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   an assistant is only going to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   more important because I will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   things now that will be entered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   somebody else into a system mmm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   and there could be a case where I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   why doesn't this stuff just come to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   instead of me going to get it and web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   automation and web integrations will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   the API is will be what allows all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   stuff to be pulled together in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   interesting way so this is where I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   to go now like I have all of this data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   that I give two systems I want these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   systems to be able to talk to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   if I want them to and I do I said what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   you're doing here i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   it's such a valuable skill to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:42   like just it's not programming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46   you're not a programmer here no way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   this this kind of thing where you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:53   learn and you realize how to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   machine do something on its own or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   to make the different machines talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   each other this this kind of very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   basic you know programming ultralight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08   kind of thing that an app like workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   allows or something like JP er allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:14   you to do by visually rearranging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   objects I think this is such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   incredibly valuable skill if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   never messed around with one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   kind of systems I think it's hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   valuable to just just try and just play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   around with a little bit just to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   into your mind that there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   something you're doing that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   little bit of effort you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   automatic or vastly vastly simpler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:43   once you get that hook in your brain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   can you can really improve a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   way use you do things on computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   devices of all kinds but I just happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   to think like the workflow app in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   particular is a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   visually rearranging stuff and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   seems to be a bunch more tools like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   zapier that are doing this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   of allowing you to visually rearrange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   stuff even if you don't want to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   thing that I'm trying to do which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   like dig into like how is this JSON [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   object structure like you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   go that far just just knowing the basics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   already makes a huge difference it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   these visual services that's helping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   understand it right like I've tweaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   things in some of my work flows which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   are like real API stuff like I've messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   around in the code but it's because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   wrapper around it is helping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   understand the context of the thing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   so like I'm able to kind of work it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   in my brain with little knowledge was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   be like oh it's this step which is got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   this code in it and this step isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   working the way I want it to so let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   look at this and if this stuff written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   well enough someone like me can can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   an idea of understanding it and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   playing with it and whilst we're in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   engine I've been thinking about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   lot recently well like you spend hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   building this stuff right does it pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   off in the long run right this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   question that I think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   have is like you've just spent four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   hours building this workflow with trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   and error and all it's doing is saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   you 30 seconds every single time how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   long is it going to take to for that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   pay off and the realization that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   come to is it's not about the time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   about the frustration yes yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   about me pressing one button to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   thing rather than opening two apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   then doing two things and type in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   thing in here and pressing send here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   it's about pressing a button and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   having it done and it is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   combination of the fun of building thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   and having the sense of accomplishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   of doing it and then every subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   time benefiting from that work that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   paid in and just making it feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   your work is happening more smoothly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   doesn't matter to me if I'm saving time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   that's not a thing it's about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   comfort of my work yeah there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   another aspect to this which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   underappreciated but when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   automate something you end up making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:03   much easier to do that thing and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:08   for example with the time tracking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   like the whole reason that I'm able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   do this seasonal experiment that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   doing of trying to track absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   everything is entirely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   automation allows the tracking to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:23   simple as possible yep if I wasn't able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   to use workflow from the notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   center from my watch to trigger the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   toggle stuff if I was having to open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   toggle app or go to the toggle website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   every time I wouldn't be doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   wouldn't be doing exactly wouldn't what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   exactly this would never had I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   using this for every task I do I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   finding it very useful like this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   like just part of my work now but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   had the friction of needing to open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   specific thing every time as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   just like pulling down and pressing two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51   buttons it wouldn't be doing it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:55   it's that's one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   automation gets you is it's a bit like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   forget the name of it but in a like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   economics when the price of a resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:05   drops you end up using so much more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   it and it allows you to do more things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   and it's not like oh the price of copper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   is dropped like are you like yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   going to use more copper that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   whole point right like we can now do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   more things than we could do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   again it's funny you mentioned on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   watch like I'm so where there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   of instances where being able to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   workflow app from the watch in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:32   of situations means I'm able to very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   easily track some time than I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   otherwise like in particular when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   reading at night like I'm reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   book and my phone is charging in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43   other room it's not in the same room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   that I sleep and I can just very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   like press a button and then as i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   going to bed just say like i'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   reading stop the clock like the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   over and the little workflow app just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   automatically does that thing whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   otherwise I wouldn't be tracking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   reading time at night if it meant that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:00   had to get up and go use another device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   that I don't want around me while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   reading at night like it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   it's really great to be able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   kind of stuff like I wish I always kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   of feel like when people dismiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   automation it's it's been like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   think you understand what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   happening I think there's an idea in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   your head of people spending hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   hours automating some system for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   benefits but you're you're only looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   at the benefit in a very very narrow way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   plus there's also just the skill of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   learning how to do this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   and then being able to apply it to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   stuff I'm honestly considering this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   like a hobby mmm and one of my hobbies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   now is tinkering of automation because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   find it fun I just guess I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   feeling of like yes I did it like I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   it you know and that's that's that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   good so going back to todoist right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:54   this this is like the biggest reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   that I made this move and there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57   couple of things and take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   right now which I really like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   them is having zapier or ifttt they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:04   both do this watch a google calendar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   add tasks based on events that trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   so a practical application of this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   me is every time it sees a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   recording on my calendar it adds a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   to edit that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   hmm very simple right but it can do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   of that stuff for me and I think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   myself in the future of like the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   that I could do this of like having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   stuff then going to toggle and like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   can all that work together and these all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   these things can just trigger on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   own right so because I I still press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   some buttons every time I sit down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   record I don't need to do that toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   could just start at the same time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   because their calendar events I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   be here two o'clock right Friday or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   whatever so toggle ways more just may as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   well to start on its own it's like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   are little things that I know how I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   to build from them another one is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   integration which to do is build for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   slack so I can be in slack and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   type forward slash todoist and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   just type in a task i can type in a due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   date labels and projects and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   gets added nobody sees it I just type it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   i press enter it says yep the tasks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   there so this is like somebody's asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   me and slack to do something and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   even leave slack oh so you can you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   have to talk to the slack pot to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   you can just like if you're in a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   chat room you can just do this yep oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   that's very interesting yep it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   integration that to do is built so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   be talking to stephen and he's like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   could you take a look at that invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   for me later on and I could just type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   take a look at the invoice at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   o'clock and press ENTER and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   added beautiful that's very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   beautiful that's pretty nice so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   this is the main the biggest reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   made this shift because as much as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   have loved using OmniFocus i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   very clear they're never gonna add this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48   but even if they're going to add it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   gonna take longer for them to add this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   then I'm willing to wait I'm at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   point now where I'm starting the value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   this stuff a little bit more than losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   some of the features and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00   features not I'm losing there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01   that annoy me about to do is there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   things I wish it did better and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   are things that I wish it more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   OmniFocus which is kind of not fair but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   I have those wishes and yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   totally not fair because that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   that so like the things that annoy me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   about it things I think aren't being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16   done right is one thing and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   are just things i think they wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   did more like OmniFocus which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21   you know that's not fair to wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   humbly so one thing that I mrs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   OmniFocus is forecast view because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   became so important for me so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   just his view in OmniFocus which gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   a can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   under and on the calendar days it showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   me how many tasks during each day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   that just gave me at a glance how busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:39   my week was mm-hmm to do is doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   really have this at all like they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   next seven days which i'm using but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   it does is just shows a list of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   the tasks for the next seven days you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   get no counters choose a base on counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   right like I'd see like 7 12 on monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   nine times on Tuesday two tasks and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   de great i can move stuff to wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   because wednesday is not busy but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   kind of just have to look at this list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   and that's it doesn't really work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   so well something to do is has which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   do kind of think is interesting and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   working for me more is when you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   reschedule something it uses machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   learning to tell you when your busiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   that your least busy days will be so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   can move stuff too so it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   recommendations and that's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   writes another thing about the data is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   like it's it knows that like either by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   trends or just by like what my average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   task usage is a day like how many tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   I'm check enough it can recommend days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   in the future where I'm not so busy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   move stuff so I think that's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   yeah I think that's an interesting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   interesting example of again having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   dated done differently like the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   can recommend things to you yeah in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:44   an open way and I've ever say like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   curious when I saw that with to do us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   now the way that i am using it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   primarily as a communication tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   between my assistant i like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   that's not really a practical thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   i think it shows that an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   direction yeah we're how can this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   go like and I know that that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   get better for me over time the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   data i'm plugging into this the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:08   that suggestions gonna get right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   so that's like a long game that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   playing with it but I do miss just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   just because my system had kind of been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   built around this idea of looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   numbers mm-hmm but now now that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   have that like I'm starting to think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   myself like was this actually really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   good system mm-hmm I don't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   that thought that you're having right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   there this is the this is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   kind of thing that I'm trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   through with everything that I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35   is like there there are many tools that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   i may have relied upon but if you step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   away from them for a while you can view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   it with more clarity and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   was this or was this not actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47   beneficial thing and I could see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   you always it's interesting is when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   would discuss using OmniFocus that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   always brought up the forecast tool as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   such a primary thing for you whereas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   had a different feature which is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   primary thing but I never looked at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   forecast so that was one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   that to me just I filed under totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   useless let seeing that I have more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   fewer tasks represented as a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   number on a day like I just never found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   that to be a useful tool to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   guide any decision-making process at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   it's I mean simply because like tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   are of vastly varying sizes yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   seven verses three verses 20 doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   actually convey the information that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   think it conveys so like yeah I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   realizing that those numbers they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   that hopeful um I do wish i had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   forecast view just because it was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   way to see where there were maybe gaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   right so like days and there were less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   busy but the idea that i live to it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51   like plus seven tasks means super busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   day i don't think that that is as useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   as i thought it was right because we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   come back to the to this in a moment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   to doest has quite some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   reporting features and let looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   last seven days every single day i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   doing i'm done over seven tasks so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   this week but previously that meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   super busy day to me so right i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   think that what i'm doing what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   'used is I'm entering more tasks into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   the system of OmniFocus I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   restricting the amount of tasks that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   would enter into the system because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   going over that number so now I'm adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   more stuff into the system which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   is making me more productive as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   would assume because there are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   things that going in the more that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   in the more that will get done or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   things that will get missed but now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   not in so much fear of like or can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   send it over seven so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   been a is actually while I miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   feature it has helped I think break a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   bad habit what you're talking about here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   like oh this arbitrary number of seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   this is I mentioned last time that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   looking into scrum a little bit and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   been playing around with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   ideas about how the system works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   organizing stuff and there's a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:02   things that I think are really valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   in this and and one of them is is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   this this focus on trying to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:10   estimate for how big your tasks actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   are and then trying to through measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:17   your previous activities get a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   how much can I do in a day not based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:23   my feelings but based on previous data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   and I think that that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   interesting idea and you can just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:32   how there are very many ways let like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   this plus seven that you were running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   into where you you can be getting a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   false sense of how much is on my plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:42   for the day and how much can I possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   do so it's good I mean I mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   know how to recommend to people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   obviously everybody systems different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   but there is some real value in changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:53   things even if you plan to go back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   just as a way to help you reassess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   see if you've got any may be unhealthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   habits in your system mmm I do there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   a there was a problem in the system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   I didn't know was there this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   cortex is brought to you in part by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   hover when you have a great idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2467">TS</a>]

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00:41:12   whatever you need to give it a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   domain name and finding that perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   domain name is ridiculously easy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   hover when all you want to do is buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   domain name or email address you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   shouldn't have to opt out of page after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2483">TS</a>]

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00:41:33   on getting a great domain name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   getting back to working on your idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   they believe you shouldn't have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   for things that should already be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   included with your domain like who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2500">TS</a>]

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00:41:45   details safe on the internet many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   registrar's require that you pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   such a service but not hover they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   that's just part of what buying a domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   name is however is where I always go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   register my domain names and it's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2518">TS</a>]

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00:42:07   website so to find that perfect domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2527">TS</a>]

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00:42:25   their support of this show and all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   real AFM relate it to this number thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:31   there is something that's frustrating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:32   me that the the badge that to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   shows on the application on iOS is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   a straight how many tasks you have jus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   for the day I've really want that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   over to you honestly because it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:45   is just a weird thing to me to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   just shows the number ten like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   the total amount of tasks not like total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   amount i'll sell overdue i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   used to this because now this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   just giving me a rundown of how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   things i have left for the day which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   so like it's I'm again it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   change of the system but I do still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   think that that's weird not even to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   that setting of being able to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   how many talks are overdue as to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   many tasks are just do for the day I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   you think it's a weird choice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   they've made to make that just ate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   can't adjust this this is what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   here's okay so while we have been seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   the praises of AP eyes and open data my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:23   my biggest complaint with using a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   of these services like to do 'used slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   and Trello is that they never feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:33   they're native citizens on the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   system that you're using no because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   try and build applications that can work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   across systems exactly that consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   that shows itself in obvious ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   not obvious ways like obvious ways for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   like for example if I'm scrolling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   Trello it's clearly like a web page is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   being rendered on the screen and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   framerate drops like hell if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   scrolling back forth in a way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   native app never would because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   doing something funny or like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   hard to pin down what it is but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   just the way in todoist when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   completing tasks or adding things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   it just doesn't feel like iOS because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   because it isn't but it also shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   and I think exactly what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   about here where there are a surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   lack of options very often when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:21   using these kinds of apps when they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   apps to feel they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   yeah and and this is this is a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:28   example of it feels like what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   that app badge icon to represent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   feels like you should have a huge array [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   of selections in here but you don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38   I think that is a side effect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   company I think smartly trying to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:45   an app that works universally across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   whole bunch of platforms and so to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   almost any time spent on customization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   on a particular platform is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   wasted time I'm aware like what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   love is a way to have that badge show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   the number of tasks that are currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   assigned to me in the system up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   this is because i'm using it in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   different way you are as a collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   between two people and that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   these cases where's like I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   good way for that that for the app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   communicate to me through a little icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   that oh my assistant needs me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   back on something related to tax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   documentation or whatever it is today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   like it feels like that should be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   option but it isn't it's not in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   and I will just add since you missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   forecasts from OmniFocus my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:40   missing feature that I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   omnifocus does so well and I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45   any other to-do app at all handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   is the concept of start dates and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   like start dates are so integrated into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   my mind that I like I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:57   how any of these apps work with like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01   een here's all I'm asking for like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02   let's let's say I wanted to add a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   let's do like the simplest task in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   world which is like buy flowers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   Mother's Day right let's say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   like this you know and it's do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   the day before Mother's Day I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   to see that task as open and uncompleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   for the whole year running up to mothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22   like I want to say set the start date a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   week before Mother's Day like don't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   me this task until it actually starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:30   coming up right or if there's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   that I can only do later in the day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   I can't do now like set the start time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   to be later in the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   omnifocus like nails this with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   ability to only show you tasks that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   can do right now and no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46   application seems to do this very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   and it is the one thing that is driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   me kind of crazy into doest is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   always a bunch of stuff that looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   it's open and available but very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   like I can't actually make any progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   on this until a later point in time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   I wish there was a way to hide it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   I actually can do something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   yeah I've seen people complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   with other systems as well Phyllis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   one of those things that I don't think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   lot of people are thinking about now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   like it was maybe like a pot as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   a system which people don't consider I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   don't know why but it's like I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   even thought oh this is like it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   just come up when it comes up by due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   date like even when you want to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   it to me I'm just like it's just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   just you just don't see it what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   mean he just don't you but you do see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   like you see it in the system when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   you're looking at like the list of open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   tasks just don't look that like hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:39   know like I know what you're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   that you go to the project or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   but you don't need to be in the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   just just do what what's jus my notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:47   is there's a difference in the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   right but but I know I know this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   yeah this is like a this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   philosophical distance and this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   a case where I know that I am in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   minority because essentially no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   to-do app makes this no like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02   I've never seen anybody do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   implementation as well the same was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   deferring yeah like I see people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   they want deferred eight so just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   just move the Jew day like what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   with you that's this is in my mind it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   like just just move the date I do i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   think this is also a little bit of a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   holdover from a certain kind of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   things done thinking which I still I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   still maintaining that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   this which is a due date should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:29   real hard due date are you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:33   shouldn't be using due dates for I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   like to do this thing on this day yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   right that's that's the distinction here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   and so a start date allows you to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   distinction about like due dates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   really due dates right there they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   these other kind of things but but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   totally aware of like if I'm wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   use any other system I totally have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   hack my way around this like I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   mention before I still use to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   track certain kinds of tasks like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01   routine tasks and I just hack that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   thing or it's like everything only shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   up in my system when it's overdue right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   so sighs look just the due date means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   nothing right it's just this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   want the thing to show up not when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   actually do so I think I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   where this disagreement comes in is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   a philosophical conflict over what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   the meaning of the due date yeah I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   like this is an old school thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   rather as you mentioned because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   like everybody that I know that uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   those functions like differ and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   and stuff like that there's people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   that seem to have been doing this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   for longer yeah I I think that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   case whereas it seems like most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41   are much happier with using the due date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   as a goal almost like oh this is the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   that I want to do the thing and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   like it might be like if you're at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   school of David Allen or not that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   what I do think this is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   holdover from that but this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   one habit that I just I cannot let go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   because I like it's like due dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   should mean something right likes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   like sometimes you get into an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   with the person and they're using words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   like in a really sloppy way and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   like no words need to mean something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   like if we're having a conversation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   words mean nothing like well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   even understand how we can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17   conversation and I feel that way about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   due dates and system like the day due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   date needs to mean something otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   don't understand how to organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   anything okay grandpa I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   that's where I am you kids with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   with your due dates that mean nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   and your words that can mean whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   you want them to mean it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   okay whatever just gonna yell at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   from my porch that's what I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   one of a problem of my switch to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:44   is one hundred percent on me errors with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:49   the manual data transfer okay human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:53   error oh my god oh this is completely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   me so like I added some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   incorrectly so there was like some tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00   that I had to complete and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   just like they were on the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   repeating cycle or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   and so now I live in fear of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:09   else is wrong right something in here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   wrong and I don't know what it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   I'll only know when it's too late you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   know but there's nothing you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   about that I just freaking wish there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   was a system so i could move around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   easily but no doesn't do like that ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28   has sailed but i just wished that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   was something you know we spoke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   this last time like i just wished it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   like a system like Heather's calendars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   or system how there is email right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:39   these things are just there and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:43   move from app to app because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   pulling from a database that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   can share you know like how r SS is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   know like I just wish there was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   like that for tasks but there isn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   there never will be because it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   late now there never will be and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   the the three protocols that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   like RSS email and HTML that are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03   universal protocols that are used by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   everybody I think all three of those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   are almost like a historical accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   that we even got them in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11   I let not even long for this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   anymore lot of this stuff right yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   it'sit's they're really valuable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   of that but it's this is one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   cases where I feel like you run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   simulation of the world over again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   we could end up in a world where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   aren't these common communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   protocols and I do think that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   say they're not long for the world I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   think on the user end in very many cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   they're not long for the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   they're they're a kind of foundation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   that will probably never go away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   they are super useful like HTML and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:44   able to do the this API stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   is all dependent on the very notion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   loading and sending information to a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   page yeah great I'm so happy this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   here I said but the ones we have that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   as many as we're gonna have exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   that's kind of I mean like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   it is not long for this world in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   their war no one's gonna make another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   one of these because this isn't how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   companies get rich anymore its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   proprietary exactly yeah I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   never going to end up with another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   of these like how you do if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   Evernote database over there buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   doing good ya doing just great let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:20   tell you a story about how I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   rearrange some tags on my iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:26   every now and then like oh oh great all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   the hierarchical information that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   put together on my Mac with the tags Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34   none of that carries over to Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   great thanks thanks Evernote that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   week this story for another time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   gonna hate this but my suggestion to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   now is start over somewhere else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   like everything new you add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   system goes in that place and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   old is in the legacy app and then over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   time you can let go ever know we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   have we can't have this conversation now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   like Mike you'd like you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   understand you do not understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   kind of legacy costs that I'm dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   with here right this is this is just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   you've explained it to me I know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   have an idea right like I can i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   understand but like it's not it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:13   not gonna work for you man like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   gonna die no no do you know what the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   what the problem is the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   despite all of my frustrations it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   still work for me right like when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   trying to search for something this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   just just happened the other day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   i'm working on a video and i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   do a quick search for a thing as like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   great some notes I saved from like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   years ago turned up as a thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   relevant to something that I'm doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   so is it that's the problems problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   it's actually still useful to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   working like there is still like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   system that can work right which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   RSS like emails plain text you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50   there are so many apps that build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   plain text man I know that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   images right but you can also save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   folders of images and it's it's sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   you know how many OCR bootleg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   screenshots of God about that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   right like I i have i have thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:10   ocr'd pages from books that i have found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   interesting like it i cannot like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   the problem anyway this is your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   for bringing up Evernote I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   how it got down another Evercore tangent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   here but what I was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   originally is that while something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   map for tasks will never exist with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   of these public API s and with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   growing skills and web automation there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:39   is at least in theory the possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   that a future Mike when moving from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   todoist to some other program in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:49   future he'll be able to write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:53   that can at least do a basic transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   right that can that can comb through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   database and then add tasks on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   end to be double-checked I did look into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   this a little bit like they're always to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   move from OmniFocus todoist mmm but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   will still it still requires you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   through and tweak some stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   they just don't talk to each other very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   well like at all even if you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   data out like the data OmniFocus gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   is not really comfortable for to doest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   to accept so I still I know for my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25   pups I still would have gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   every task and made sure they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   correct oh yeah yeah again this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   is not for now Mike I'm simply saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   like there's the possibility for future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   Mike Mike four point oh yeah to API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   enabled to do apps could have a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:41   easier transfer between them yeah then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44   one app that has an API and another app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   that doesn't ah yes of course I see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   you mean it's not only focus was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   going to do any good but like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   future application like both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   understanding the web right could yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   you're totally right no one the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   best thing about to do list also houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   I think it's very worst floor so to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:08   its natural language entry is incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:12   like I press control in and I just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:18   typing and then I press ENTER and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   task is done and it has the due date it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   has the project it's all attached to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   I love it it's like how fantastical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   change calendars to do is change task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   entry because you just you type to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   you have to learn the language of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   application a little bit right leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   mm-hmm what is it that you need to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   add something to a project what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   need to do to add a label to it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:43   thing you know but it's brilliant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   where it falls down is the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   especially with repeating tasks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:53   there is a specific language they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   website that will web page even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   application you can get a link which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59   kind of tells you how do you say every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   second Tuesday or how do you say every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:04   first of the month right there are ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:08   in which you say this stuff into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   natural language and that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   normal of this stuff right where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   is a language that it understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   because then it's going to get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   and I totally understand that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   have to learn the language to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   speak to it in that way it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   same with like the Amazon echo right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   speak to it in the ways that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   understands and then you are good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   right but the problem with to doest is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   with all of the repeating tasks stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   there's no UI yeah I've run into this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   well so you can't change a thing unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   you speak to it and that is crazy making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:44   to me like i have spent like 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   trying to get a task to repeat in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   right way because i keep telling it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   the way that I think it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   understand but it's still getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   wrong and I can't just click and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   just just press a button like I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   in OmniFocus to get it to do that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   omnifocus I could set it that way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   also couldn't speak to it right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   there's like a give-and-take with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   everyone that I know that uses to do us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   is also frustrated about this but over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   time it becomes less of a problem as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   learn more and more how to talk to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   but they should also have the UI to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20   like repeat every second Tuesday yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:24   this this kind of stuff is really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   because the natural language processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   is always oh it's fantastic when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   works but when it doesn't work suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   it's like you're in the 1970s talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   the terminal right you just you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   learn the magic incantations to say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   make up do the thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41   infuriating the problems lie and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   there isn't a defined language when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   trying to infer your meaning right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   is why a lot of people i think get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   frustrated it's eerie is that oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   Siri I think tries to take more broad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:57   put ya where the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   put ya where the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   you have to say things in a specific way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   so once you learn those things is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   reliable so like I understand why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   needs the specific language because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   we're talking to each other in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   that we understand it's like I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   to you right now I'm not half of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   words aren't French right right I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   to speak to you in the language I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   you're going to understand I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   but not having a you I fall back it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24   just just stupid I think I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   understand why you wouldn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   yeah it is frustrating again I've I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30   using it in a very different way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   was aware of that really fast that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   lack of you I for certain aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   task is frustrating and it it also seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:41   like you need this here so that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   learn when the language typing works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:47   when it doesn't are so there can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48   little feedback loop but like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   you think I said like how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   populating all of these fields based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   what I'm typing into this box very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   weird I mentioned statistics to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3656">TS</a>]

01:01:01   has statistics which are kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   kind of pointless at the same time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:08   pointless thing is something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   Karma you are points over time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   you become like mega expert like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   really know why they have this system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   doing why they have this system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   ramification I know that's the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   but it's like gamification is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   machine learning right it's magic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   you sprinkle on to every product but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   thing about it is is the gamification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   does work because you know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   part of me and it's like oh like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   just gone up a comma level like I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37   master now you know like I am currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   an expert to next is master than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   Grandmaster and then enlightened you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   know like it wasn't gonna get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:46   enlightened phase and an only to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   anymore I think that's what that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   it's telling me they give you a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   payout when you're done and then you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   won you've won the game of productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54   I think that's how it works but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:57   do like is that the statistics that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   give you about like you can kind of tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   it how many tasks you want to complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   on an average day and then it has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   baseline and you can see when you breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   over the baseline you get streaks going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   and stuff like that which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   kind of interesting I can see how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   tasks are completed in the last seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   is an hour weekly basis the last four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   weeks and like I like seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   because it's given me some trends but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   i'm using project snail gray something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   I've never done before but i'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24   project since but one of the reasons is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   because it's easier for me to do this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   don't i can just type it in and it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   like a second more for me to type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   like the pound sign and then cortex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   then is into a context project and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   finding this just to be useful mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   for knowing where to find things so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:44   know I have a task in the future instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   of me searching for I hit the cortex one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   I don't know it's going to be in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   and it's also interesting when I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   I can't I don't really feel like doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   this right now hey whats in my personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   stuff like was my personal tag there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   easy things to do you know so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   that it's interesting to me to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   put things in these buckets which is GTD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:04   101 right using projects but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   never done it before so i feel like i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   upgraded my system it's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   me that anyone could have used OmniFocus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:16   for as long as as you did without ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   really using projects it's it's so based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   around the notion of there are projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   that it's almost inconceivable how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   would even be using it without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28   projects as a fundamental part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   part of things so it's funny to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34   todoist the application that seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   a projects whatever maybe you have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   maybe you don't this is the one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   has you now using projects more yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:46   is weird but is purely because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   entry like I can get it in easier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:51   don't have to tap more stuff and spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   more time see it's just it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   automation right you've reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   friction to do something and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   are more likely to take advantage of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   so yeah I am very pleased with todoist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   overall it like with anything like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06   critical of it because I really liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09   so I want it to be better mm-hmm if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   didn't have any complaints that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   an issue I think right like I think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   want to have complaints about the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   because it means i'm pushing it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   i'm using it right lover than she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:21   like yes fine whatever like I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   any feelings for it in that way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   have feelings for this application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   because I think it's very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   a lot of the stuff that it does but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   has work to go but I am one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   percent sold I'm not moving back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   OmniFocus like this is my system I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   absolutely no desire to move back I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   completely sold on this because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40   things this app does better know so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:44   better and the things that it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   as well and maybe not as bad as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   initially thought that they would be hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   it's interesting it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   interesting verdict no more OmniFocus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   for Mike no not as I said really I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3896">TS</a>]

01:05:01   know what it would take for me to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   back like I just don't think it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   be on my horizon like OmniFocus is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   better iOS application than todoist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:11   hands down that the apps are amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:15   like on the Mac it's just a web app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   little wrapper like it's even more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   funny than how it is on iOS where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   it's still an iOS application as you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   but like it's it's not completely native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   I doesn't feel it doesn't feel natives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   there tryna unify this experience but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   the Mac it's just like this is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34   straight up like that but I just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   all of the bits around it all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   stuff that makes the application work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   so interesting to me because there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   many things happening in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   I'm just really and kind of just smitten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   about all of that honestly like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   that it is a much better system for Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   of 2017 than anything else is yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:58   it's been very interesting just to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   around with this like I have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   imagining using to do is to my primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:07   system but I've just been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10   interested to play around with it and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13   be using it as the communication device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   between my assistant and I were we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   tracking what's going on is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   because there's not enough tinkering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   available it's a hard app to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22   particular with its yet it's a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25   app to be particular with they do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:29   filters which are these ways of pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:33   searching through a bunch of tasks which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   are are comparable to OmniFocus but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:38   would say they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   much less powerful than I first thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   because there's some weird limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:45   on combining certain kinds of queries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   that that make it a little bit hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   use but yeah it is it is difficult to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:57   particular with but I really do find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:02   myself just just interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   thinking about this this whole concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   of apps that are really web services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:12   with api's and it is also a thing in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:16   thinking about the future there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:21   may be some kind of thing that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   do where you don't even really have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   interact with a nap so directly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   you're able to write little things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   interact with it indirectly in exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   the way that you want to every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:39   know III don't know I don't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   I'm going to end up I don't predicts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   that I'm going to go to to-do list as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   primary application in the future but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   do have to say as as this trial between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:53   my assistant and I it has been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   successful and it's a really great tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4076">TS</a>]

01:08:00   to be using between the two of us so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   think it definitely has a place in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   life going forward but perhaps not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:08   primary place right but who knows we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   see like I web api is maybe one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   features that over time just become so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   increasingly valuable that it Dwarfs all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   other considerations I've got to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:21   like if I was gonna put money on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   opal money that you end up in todoist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   because if Web API is becoming that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   of an important tool for you you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   just get more and more annoyed that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   app that your that your GT application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   your task manager you what I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   for me and I think it's same for you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4119">TS</a>]

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01:08:43   hooks and really from what I've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:47   doest is the one in this area so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4127">TS</a>]

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01:08:56   uses these web api is to mock all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4136">TS</a>]

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01:09:03   for you for the rights of course like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4143">TS</a>]

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01:09:07   is like well but if you can i maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4147">TS</a>]

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01:09:13   deal with that like you just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4153">TS</a>]

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01:09:17   appear in to do us at some point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:20   future but I would be surprised honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:24   like if in a year you're used to using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   something else because if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29   automation stuff is becoming as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   important to you as I think it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:34   would be it would be surprising for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   if you then just let your to-do app not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   worry about that stuff yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4179">TS</a>]

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01:09:46   future me does at least in the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   I have spent so far I have consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   noticed that I have conflicting needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:55   and requirements for high-level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   low-level looking at tasks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:02   something there that I haven't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03   settled on that I don't quite have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   requirements for yet there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   brewing I don't know well we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   we'll see what happens but to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4209">TS</a>]

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01:10:15   just see how how primary it it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4215">TS</a>]

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01:10:33   you know you could be racing to wrap up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   free projects while also trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   remember to track the time on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   because you're also working on building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   out a new productivity system also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   whilst trying to tackle that mountain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   paperwork and the working world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4245">TS</a>]

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01:11:19   sent out there you'll have online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4279">TS</a>]

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01:11:22   clicks and your invoices will be built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4282">TS</a>]

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01:11:36   have a full track of everything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4296">TS</a>]

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01:11:40   into freshbooks you get notifications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4300">TS</a>]

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01:11:48   mind of how is my business doing no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   guessing games of what's odor over do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4310">TS</a>]

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01:12:05   just type in the word cortex so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   know that you came to them from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4327">TS</a>]

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01:12:14   the things that happened because of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   doubling up episodes was that between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:19   those episodes and now we put up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:23   application to hire an administrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   assistant relay FM which is something we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:27   been talking about for a while and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   wanted to talk about on the show but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:30   also wanted to get it done and I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   maybe we'd keep the application open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   until the show until we recorded a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   episode mm-hmm then we got over 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   responses so we decided to shut it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42   shut it down do you insisting to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:46   you get through all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:47   applications oh I felt it um I did put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:51   the I did put it in the show notes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   the last week's episode and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   a bunch of people found it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:56   that because of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   increasing after the episode went out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   we did that but um I felt like a hunched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   over a hundred applications was enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   that that seems like enough to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:09   started at the very least yeah and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   isn't well we can just do it all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   again but we had the application up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   about a week also and again this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   a refresher so awesome we'll be working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:20   with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:21   me primarily to help me with some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   administrative that goes around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   business side of relay FM you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   working with companies and helping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   like with booking in stuff into systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   and things like that so so kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   helping me and assisting me so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   focus on some other stuff we made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   really good decision when we probs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   application to create a standalone email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   address for this yeah that's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   good decision because then I assigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   him to the email address in a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   application that wasn't my email app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   then I didn't have to see all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   emails coming in and that meant I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   just kind of go and read them in chunks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:58   of time you know as opposed to like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01   coming in constantly a hundred emails I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4441">TS</a>]

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01:14:06   really would have felt that increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   over the weekend definitely things would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   have gotten lost in my email inbox if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   they were coming in just through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13   regular email addresses that we use so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:16   that ended up being a good thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17   kind of maybe over like three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   sessions went through all of them went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   through all of the applications real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4462">TS</a>]

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01:14:34   to pay attention to all of them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4474">TS</a>]

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01:14:42   position here hiring the assistant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   I wasn't hiring the animator yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   because with hiring the animator I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:50   asking for a demonstration of your skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4490">TS</a>]

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01:14:56   hiring like that that's actually what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4496">TS</a>]

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01:15:07   an actual skill I have the person do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4507">TS</a>]

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01:15:25   no way that the person can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   demonstrate their skill in a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4527">TS</a>]

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01:15:37   assistant for relay before they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4537">TS</a>]

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01:15:41   but we did I won't say what it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:44   there was a requirement in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4544">TS</a>]

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01:16:02   things like that right where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4562">TS</a>]

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01:16:10   the person that is gonna be a cystic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:13   name needs to listen to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   otherwise this isn't gonna work so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   otherwise it's not going to work but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   I guess what I kind of want to know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:22   being in this difficult position not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:25   being able to have a clear demonstration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   of skill ahead of time how how were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:32   assessing these applications one good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:36   thing was I read them all Stephen read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   them all look so we amassed a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   people mmm that we both like them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   were able to cross-reference them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:46   anyone that came up in both of us right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47   where that was a good application if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   they didn't then me and him would maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:50   argue that person right okay who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   go to interview so that was one good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   part of it because there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   candidates where I've put a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:57   full into them than others because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:01   to argue it so that was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   part of it as we were kind of discussing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04   who should go to the entry stage it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:08   just a lot of really hard and at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:12   point mind-numbing work because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:16   a way to write a resume or CV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:21   pretty much everybody follows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   because it's the way these things should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   be written as a lot of repetition an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:30   awful lot of repetition mm-hmm and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:34   me the ones that really stuck out was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   when somebody did something in the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   or in the cover letter to stoop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:45   that made them stand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   because there are also a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   that were like you know I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:50   the shows that you do and suffering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:51   what I like him so I don't know which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   nice because they're showing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:54   understand it but that also became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   a thing that a lot of people were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57   so there was just a few candidates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   what they wrote grabbed me and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:03   explain why mm-hmm but it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:06   I feel like I could work with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   person like there was just a feeling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   the way that they were expressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:11   themselves which was just something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:15   made sense now this isn't a weird notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18   to me because I've done this before I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   hired people in the bank job so it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:23   same kind of deal right the all resumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:26   look the same you know within a margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   but they all kind of sale of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   kind of things mmm but it's the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:34   that kind of just they they display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   something about themselves in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   that they explain themselves for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41   explanation part is what's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   how somebody talks about themselves it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   so difficult right but like I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   looking for someone who was to corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   and I wasn't looking for someone who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   being zany for the sake of being zany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   right but it's somewhere in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   look like I wanted that person to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:59   in prose give me an idea of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:03   personality and they were the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:06   kind of were able to jump through so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   that was what made it interesting even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   though it is hard work isn't the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   word but it's like intensive work which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17   is very repetitive you know so it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:21   was a tough process but the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   kind of spoke out to me especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   the ones that were able to kind of shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   in some way in a way that cannot at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:31   be quantified but that's what makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   interesting if you can quantify it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   it would be easy right everyone could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   it yeah i mean i would prefer that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:42   was some way to quantify it rightly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   like it's you know like it's World of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:47   Warcraft and you're logging in you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   see oh there's this person rolled a 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   in personal administration skills great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   right that's that is actually what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   prefer but that's not the world that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:57   live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:57   so how are you going to filter down then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4797">TS</a>]

01:20:00   from the people that you have assessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   fit the role or interview so we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:05   percentage of the applicants now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:08   have worked in interviews for I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   say how many there are I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   what percentage Mike I want to know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:13   percentage a presented of people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:18   what I will say is it's gonna take us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   two and a half days to do this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:21   interviews how are you doing the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   who process that full how to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:27   someone from the who book ammonia looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:30   like a player's gray yeah no I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33   to speak to all these people because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   next part of it is how do we communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   so you're doing I presume like FaceTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:42   interviews that yes that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   occurring yeah it was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   decision do we do audio or video hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   I've decided to do video primarily just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:54   so I can get more of a feel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:55   person although we will probably never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:58   communicate visually right so me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:03   this person will most likely communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   ninety-nine percent of the time for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   text mm-hmm but I wanna get a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10   the person and I think the easiest way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:13   to do that is to do this over video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   I think it also gives that person the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   same from us is they get to get more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:21   a sense of us because they can see body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   language they can see how we react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   things like it's just more expressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   and I think it's just a bit more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   interesting way to do this as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   like just exchanging e-mails back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   forth all having a phone call yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37   it's a more broadband way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:41   communicating than a narrow band way yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   there's less likelihood of things being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   misunderstood i think and i also just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:50   case this is something we do end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   doing in the future I want to establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   this it's the first contact you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57   rather than like at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   individual be like hey can we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   video cooks it could be weird right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:02   if we already ever communicate but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   just want to start off like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:05   first contact that we've had and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   move on forward from there I'm realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   my assistant and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   never done a video chat with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   and it would be it would be strange I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   probably noir that ever ever will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   was i don't see why i would want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:19   it bong i I just want it to be this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22   initially we're going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:23   three-person call we may as well do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26   by video mm-hmm everyone gets to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   nice blue wall behind me you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   backdrop oh it's the thrice is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:31   a mega office it's gonna be at mega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   office you know it's a serious business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   I don't know I don't know why it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   be any other place of course of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   it's been interesting trying to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   the questions I mean are you gonna ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   like Google style brain Jesus how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:47   manhole covers are there in New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   City yeah it's like oh you have a bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   grain and a fox and a duck on the shore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:54   and you're trying to cross the river but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56   you can only take one thing at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   what order do you do it is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   you're gonna ask people yes just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:00   just brain teasers I really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   establish the idea that the Riddler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   could be working with them at any moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   you know yeah right no it is purely I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:11   looked at like I've googled like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:12   interview questions right just to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15   like yet like an idea like what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   standards because I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:18   reasons why people ask similar questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   so I've got some of those in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   also just as a way to kind of like guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   my thinking cuz there's a definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   practice around this whether it works or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30   not people have done it for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   there must be some benefit to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   honestly like interviews all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   stuff is so weird because you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   these small slices of a person but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   you start working with them every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   mmm right and then you find out who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   are but I figure I may as well try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:48   follow at least some of the process that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50   I've done before that i knows worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   right which is resumes phone interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:56   right or resumes and a face-to-face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   interview you know that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   and what I expect will happen is we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   go through all of this and there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04   more than one person that sticks out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   then we'll baby do like a second like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   phone call just to go through some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:10   little parts that may pop up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11   what I also know is the questions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:14   asking interview one will be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   to the questions that I ask an interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18   x-rite like a few interviews down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:21   line so there may be some like extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23   crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:24   don't want to ask certain people to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:25   what they're like you know because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:28   definitely going to be an evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29   process as it goes over those couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   days like I do not expect the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   to remain exactly the same because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   someone will say something which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:36   spark a question which all that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   have been good to ask they have a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:39   you know mm-hmm but trying to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   like how to understand if I can work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:45   well with someone based upon some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:46   questions that I'm thinking about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:47   advance is very difficult yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:51   this I've never done this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:55   but I imagine you must know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:58   questions are a framework to get a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:01   of how well you can work together right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:04   is it that the answer is matter but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:08   matter maybe thirty percent yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   it's it's more the way the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   explaining themselves I I'm imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   that that's probably what it's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   do to do these kinds of things it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:21   quits it's like the resume the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:24   of the resume is not important to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   it's the way it's being presented to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   mmm i like how is this person describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:32   things so it's like all these questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   most of the answers they're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:36   that important because most people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   answer these things the same because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   they think they know what the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   should be mmm but it's the way in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   the person explains what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   explaining is why I'm interested in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   we'll see how I want to talk about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   I give people tips right this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   out there grey listen no you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:53   can't you can't give interview tips the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:56   answer is number 62 that's what you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:59   to tell me that's the code yeah and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   as always with these things it's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   matter of who is your competition as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:07   well all right like that's that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:08   going on like on my on my job interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:12   that was the thing that I was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   obsessed with was finding out who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   other applicants were she create like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   virtual waiting room right you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:20   you you go into a job interview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22   everyone sitting there yeah like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:25   you know for this application they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   they won't have that advantage but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   like yeah I remember I remember one job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   I was just like I was able to see who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   the other applicants were I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   I've owned this like I know I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   win this because the game is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   being better than these other people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   necessarily about being the best yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   fooled that once can get the job done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:45   yeah see I did get the job yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:49   how to play the game better than I do no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   you're the you're the corporate master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   here Mike so much of it is like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   seeing what happens because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   really know what comes after these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:58   interviews right what do we do next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   then houses all this start and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   how'd it miss me in this person start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   working together and when do we start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05   working together and what are the hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07   that we work to get it's all good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:08   all so up in the air but now that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   really seriously approaching this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   opposed to it just being this idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   I've had it is interesting genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:17   exciting and quite a challenge yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:21   have to say I'm really glad that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:22   started this like this is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   we have had private conversations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   for a long time yeah horse like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:29   to get someone to help you but error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   there is a time at which you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   yeah and it's like the economics have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   make sense and also for me I needed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   moment of like I can't do this anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:41   like this is too much if I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:46   someone to help me things won't work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   well right like that for me at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49   that needed to happen I think that needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   to happen for everybody you know cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   then you also get a clearer idea of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   you actually need someone to do yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:58   seems like nobody hires someone right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:01   the moment when it would be best to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02   that person right you hire a retroactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05   exactly every every hiring that's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:08   made is made at least six months later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   than it should have been made yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12   that's that's I think that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   natural that's a natural part of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   I have it's like anybody who's listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   to us right now if you're even thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   maybe I need to hire some was like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   the answer is yes the answer is it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:25   late for you so yeah no one no one no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:29   one does it at the right time I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:32   maybe gray actually I think very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   strongly by the next time we talk I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37   have higher than a system very exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:40   good luck to the assistant if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   happen to be listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnstVdA/5322">TS</a>]