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00:00:01 ◼   ► making a legit mistake or troll in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/1">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► use trollin I patrolling use myriapods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/10">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► I thought I am NOT tiff uses the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► than I do now because did you get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► pair or two pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► I got one pair which is two airports but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/18">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► yes it how you got three air pods yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► how many how many your holes can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/25">TS</a>]

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00:00:31 ◼   ► okay that's what I thought okay so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► have a single-payer like you said yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► and tiff is using the more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► yeah she uses them actually often with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/37">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► the apple TV like when I'm podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► frequently on gets it isn't as nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► using it with other stuff but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► work and there's a couple of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► niceties like when you when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► use the volume up and down on the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► TV remote with airports connected it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► does the volume to them instead of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► your speakers so it doesn't do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► auto pairing thing the way it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► iOS devices but once you have it paired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► it works nicely so how does that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► happening i'm not trying to be funny how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► does that work then do you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► go into settings in the apple TV & and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► say connect to the air pods every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► time I forget if we do every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/67">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► I i think it was the first time I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► usually she just does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► I think once they're paired as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you don't pair them with something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/77">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► that's the issue and and so we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/77">TS</a>]

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00:01:21 ◼   ► times i was doing was trying to testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► between like the phone the TV ipad watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► a mac like you testing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► different things and I found that it air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► pods are a little bit frustrating in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► trying to share between different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► devices and having a not-quite always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► like even though the old way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► bluetooth for you have to like one pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► from 12 fights appeared something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► that's also terrible but the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► airports do it is not quite flawless but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► how do they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► that's my question because i have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► my ear pods with my phone in my ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► right those are two two devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► yeah is something supposed to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► other than me going to settings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► tapping bluetooth and tapping air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► because that's what I've been doing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/126">TS</a>]

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00:02:10 ◼   ► in a single airpot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► and i'll be in like the bedroom and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► listening to a podcast or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► that and then i'll put in like five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► ten minutes later i'll put in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► the the other air pod and it will go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► connect and for whatever reason it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► semi consistently connect the iMac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► is in the next room over the office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► so I have one Airport connected to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► phone and one connected to my my mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► so i'll double tap like the the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► connected the iMac which I still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► changed to do play pause so I'll here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► Syria of one here and then like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► podcast was need to out of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► year it's actually quite funny and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► could see how that would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► frustrating to someone who isn't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► developer perhaps or who doesn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► about how difficult it is to implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► all this but to me I just find it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► hysterical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► yeah I still got some weird audio sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► problems sometimes but overall they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► still there still winning just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► guess my hatred of chords and snags has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► a mandarin house I i find it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► frustrating that I can't change volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► and I have all these crazy schemes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► how to adjust the volume by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► reaching into my pocket and feeling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► which side of the phone is face up so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► know whether I have to reach the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► with the power button never order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► volume thing like little slow down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/205">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► slow down we are you talking pant pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► of jacket pocket jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► ok then night night than i i i i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► like my winter jacket and you know reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► around to change they are like what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► in the kitchen except I don't put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► phone in the kitchen the phone is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► dining room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/219">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► so if i want to change the volume i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► like take a few steps into our room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► on the little sideboard thing the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► up or down but i'm living within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► apparently you know personal putting I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► people hate when i said is not correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► but deal with it you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► that i i'm i'm now using them despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/234">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► the fact that double tapping my ear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► uncomfortable and despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► double tapping works weirdly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► consistently some people have suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► the triple tap to try to you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► a mulligan in there if one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► doesn't register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► sometimes I blame overcast or indoor / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► iOS first taking over cast out of memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► so that it has to launch again before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► can start playing and I question whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► it it registered my taps and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/263">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► have just haven't started playing yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► sometimes it's so far out of memory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► it starts playing music despite the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► thing the fact the last thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► listening to the podcast very confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► all that said i'm still using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► instead of my wired ones the only place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► i've used my wire was recently was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► watching my ipad in case where my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/283">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► pods were downstairs and it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► i got the wired headphones here and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► not going anywhere i'm just watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► something on my iPad on my bed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► I'm like the wireless i'm totally sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► on and as I mentioned earlier like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► love the idea of the airport is just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► incredibly small and pocketable they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► they don't fit me comfortably and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► don't really work for my life as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► result and so that's why I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► using my tips and more than i am but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► that being said all those limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► about what you can and can't easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► control from them like volume and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► pause being finicky and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► when i switch back to my beloved old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/317">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► sennheiser PX 2 10 BTW when it has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► giant you know that this little like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► know on a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► bluetooth said that I've had for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► couple years now that I walk my dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► every day with and it just has these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► plastic buttons on the right earcup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► I can play pause volume up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► seat back seat forward next track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► previous track all with these five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► buttons on the right earcup and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► just so convenient and every time I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► other headphones for a little while to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► review them or talk about on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► whenever I go back to my crappy little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► sanitizer bluetooth headphones i am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► happy with the amount of control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► comedian that I have them even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► they sound like crap and they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► ugly and they are you know still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/363">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► over the head headphones even if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► compact ones so they don't fit in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► pocket really they'll fit jacket pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► but not like a pants pocket and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► just so nice to have those and I it i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► tried now I still haven't done a review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/378">TS</a>]

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00:44:15 ◼   ► truncated and it goes like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► towards the end of the tweeters goes dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► and then has a URL but you can click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► to read the whole tweet on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► website that's what long tweets look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► like and twitter for the mac and yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► still continue to use that I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► can't do so many things from the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► version of the client that I can do from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► the iOS one but I still continue to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► it because i like it and every other mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► client that I've tried i dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► strongly in some way so I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► wished for Twitter its comeback comeback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► but I understood like look you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► know if it's not a viable arc is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► available market even offered to pay up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► seeing amounts of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► for whatever put it back in fact I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► believe it was only last week or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► week before that you said I would pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► hundred dollars for updated version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► terrific for the Mac I've said that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► times and I may or may not have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► saying that because i may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► have known about this project a plan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► anyway now there's a Kickstarter like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► everything thing that we've joked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► for so many years like how much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► would it take to fund the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► developers who need to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► application let's just do a Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► and if enough people want Twitter her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► for the mac they will find this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► and they will make this application like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► it's it's an easy way to know that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► you will have the money to pay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► development of this project because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► get the money upfront ish in exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► for the application so i'm not i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► back to this kickstarter I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► to tell you how much money i pledge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► it was a lot of it they are the goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► 75,000 but i want you all to ignore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► because the real goal is a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► thousand to stretch the so-called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► stretch goal because the stretch goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► includes all the features that i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► including fairly essential things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► direct messaging so I really want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► kickstarter to get 200,000 if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► it will just be proving what i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► factor has been saying all along is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► there's just not enough people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► this who are going to pay for it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► though some of us are paying very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► more than five dollars for the privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► of having this application so you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► not like using Twitter on the mac period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► because many people just don't use it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► the mac at all maybe use the website or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► whatever but if you are using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► existing Mac twitter client and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► like it or it seems like it hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► updated my electorate herd for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► or it doesn't work the way you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► to this is an opportunity to get a shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:37 ◼   ► new twitter client from a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► really knows how to make Twitter clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► 44 only as much money as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► possibly afford so please PLEASE back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► this is up to 35 thousand dollars now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► and has been open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► it's got 28 days to go and it's 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► thousand dollars out of a goal of not 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► north at go a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► please everybody make this happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► because i want this to the client but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► we don't make it happen does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► we will finally break you of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► ridiculous insistence on the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► timeline i know i will never gonna use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► whatever the magnet until it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► launch anymore after that I'm gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► gonna beg my friends and i can factor to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► give me a special building does blanch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► em I'm just giving you a hard time no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► i know some of the folks from the icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► factory we all do actually and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► great people so definitely check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► this kickstarter and throw a few dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► if you can because it would make John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► happy it would make the folks at icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► factory happy and they're good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► and you could swag have t-shirts they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► have little you know vinyl Holly dolly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► is their little blue Twitter bird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► should be some history i think i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► factor website link to it the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► between icon factory and Twitter many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► the things that you associate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► Twitter were in fact invented by icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52 ◼   ► factory terminology iconography so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► icon factory is like practically part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► Twitter only non financial sense because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► they do not have thousands of employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► and billions of dollars of investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► didn't Hockenberry come up with tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► sent him knows co-worker that right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► think so sorry that you have to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► details when I like oh my you tried like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► yeah the I believe they were the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► ones to actually use a bird as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► the logo that you at the word we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► they might even invented at replies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► don't know it's they did a lot like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► lot a lot of of Twitter like standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► things and practices and mechanisms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► everything were invented by icon factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► or by there by like their developers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► their apps and Ollie the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► twitterrific bird is along with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► panik's transmit truck one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► ripped off i constantly entire internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► you see everywhere like that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► generic representation of Twitter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► Twitter's logo nope nope not not twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► logo at all in fact or logos worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► I contractors like they should have paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► them to make their logos for them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► they didn't cool well good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► I don't know if I'm if I should wish you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► good luck John official wish the icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► factory good luck I guess a little boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► should do either you should pledge money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► that's what you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► here's here's why you shall pledge money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2948">TS</a>]

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00:49:13 ◼   ► great people doing great things great be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► Twitter needs more diversity in software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► and and twitterrific is one of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► few clients that grandfather in with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► very large amount of user tokens and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► they actually can make their like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► the only companies that could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► widespread twitter client and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► this kickstarter doesn't fund John gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► to keep all his money and so we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► John we want John to have spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► ridiculous amount of money on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► twitter client i can say is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2983">TS</a>]

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00:49:47 ◼   ► computer after photoshop exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► exactly we want John's copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► twitterrific to be the this ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► investment he has made and so please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► everyone go fund this so that his pledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/2997">TS</a>]

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00:50:00 ◼   ► the money that I want to spend on a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► pro is just my software Kickstarter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► oh my goodness alright moving on let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3006">TS</a>]

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00:50:12 ◼   ► apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► oh god what can we start with before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► start talking about this show can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► start with the I someone maybe we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3017">TS</a>]

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00:50:21 ◼   ► with calling it planet of the apps when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23 ◼   ► it sounds like planet of the apes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► there any that is it doesn't fall under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3024">TS</a>]

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00:50:29 ◼   ► referencing thing a thing but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► joking way so it is almost like trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► dress like I don't know I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3034">TS</a>]

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00:50:39 ◼   ► away with planet of the apps without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► paying somebody who has the right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► Planet of the Apes Oh fall for next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► someone tell me what the deal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► yeah i mean three things like a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► aren't trademark lawyers be they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► have paid someone to license it can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► they might just not care and just accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► it and if anybody threaten them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► will just settle it because allegory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► being apple and exactly the top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► mountain of cash so high you can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► hear the people yelling at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► exactly like it's probably we will buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► the planet of the apes franchise from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► universal over the hell owns it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► know when we sneeze the money falls out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► of our pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► yeah exactly like it's probably I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► it you know as as amateurs hear it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► kind of seem like it might be considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► like generic enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► clearly clear enough parody or satire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► that it might not be a clear-cut case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► actual infringement humor the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► angle is the strongest one but I'm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► that funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► no it's not apples not good at being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► funny and I was like how bad is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► plan have to be before it stops being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► humor I i think what one thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► know I I don't want to bash chapel too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► much about this but i do think that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► very clear difference between apple now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► vs apple under steve is that Steve was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52 ◼   ► cool person like not and and not in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► ways and and he knew the ways in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► she wasn't cool to kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► played off of them but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► fundamentally like pretty cool person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► to the people who follow apple and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► to apple customers and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► anybody at apple now is cool at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the senior leadership but i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► they know that it actually kind of seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► like they don't know that and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16 ◼   ► actually under the opposite impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► see fed is cool come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► what does not know bc Fed is is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► like the dad joke but he knows that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► he plays that so he actually doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► have a pretty good job of managing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► he's not much in the public eye I i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► like I don't like him i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36 ◼   ► profoundly deeply uncool but is under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► the opposite impression he doesn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► he's cool yeah i agree he's he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► he's comfortable zone skin you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► any cute whooping well no yeah yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► a whole different level but uh but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► I mean I I i wish the like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► apple today is run by a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► middle-aged white men and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► he that is showing a lot recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► it's unfortunate and that isn't to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► that they can still make good stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► I think some of their decisions are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► little odd you know in in context anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► back to get off the name though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► but yes just to defend or the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► to condemn Steve Jobs coolness remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► that he wanted to call the imac mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► man move we all have bad days remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► that talked out of it by advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► executives macman I believe them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► my memory is correct that someone Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► and correct me if I'm screwing up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► thank goodness for imac yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► to be fair that was a long time ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► know but it's just like the name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► tastes like it Steve wasn't as cool back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► then in in the mid-nineties Steve wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► as cool 1998 I'm acting but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► alright so there was a trailer for apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► while really I guess Apple musics TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► show so the Apple music TV show and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► a little weird like music television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► yeah thanks you too there so it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► planet of the apps i only saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► trailer once it's like two and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► minutes so it at this point if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► listen to the show feel free to pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► and watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► I it so I mixed feelings about this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► is clearly unequivocally not a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► meant for the three of us and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► okay i can move itself that's not a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► the idea is I if I understand this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► a bunch of app developers or potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► app developers come in and do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► escalator pitch so they are on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► escalator and as the escalators moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► down they have like 60 seconds to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► pitch to will I am one of paltrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► jessica alba and gary vaynerchuk who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► guess at that point get to choose if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► they want to tutor any of these teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► and then I guess there's a competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► at the end and if you win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► among other things you get special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► placement in the app store which most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► people would probably give an appendage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► to get wait so you can i first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► out with the escalator pitch thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► yeah yeah as a brief diversion here okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► so i have a question obviously I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► pitched Avicii I've been around vc's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► I've been bored BDCs I've interacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► with a lot of pieces but never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► pitched to one that was always done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► david and other people who are around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► that being said i am familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► concept of the elevator pitch where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► idea is you're in an elevator with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► VC only have like until that you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► like they'll be arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► to pitch them on your idea and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► gotta convince them in a short amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► time it's supposed to be like a man or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► however how did this come about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► silicon valley has very few tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that's an interesting point there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► that many elevators there to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► and the ones that are there are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► going over like three floors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► elevator right they are lazy people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► have elevators in two-story buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► but it but still it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► one-minute pitches like an eight second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► pitch like that where where did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► idea come about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► maybe in New York taller buildings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► silicon valley of money has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► west coast vc's there there are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► very few new york vc's that actually fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► Silicon Valley or tech project I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► elevator pitch pretty silicon valley but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► going back into steve jobs again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► remember the story about being trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► in an elevator with steve jobs and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► has enough time to fire you in there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► it for you to say the wrong thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► him to decide that you're fired and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► was remarkably efficient but wow anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► everything that I think elevator pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► predates silicon valley but if not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► it's metaphorical more than it is actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► but you but you got to the heart of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► idea is that if you have to sum up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► idea in a short amount of time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► should be able to say something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► compelling instead of like just rambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► on for 20 minutes and people not knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► what you're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► you need to have an elevator pitch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► people in the end the the chat room or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► like don't you mean we said escalator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► pitch do you must speak to you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► elevator pitch no that's left planet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► the apps get it apps instead of apes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► think that would be an elevator pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► but you see what we did there someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► who we all know would say they took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► and they turned it it's not an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► it's an escalator between makes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► less sense because we're you to a cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► somebody on an escalator that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► super weird because you wouldn't even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► facing them you'll be there above them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► are below them and the second thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► an escalator riding lesson time then an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► elevator ride so it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► ill-conceived in every possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► except for one and that one way is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► that an idea that fits in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► reality show answer yes well and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► easier to film an escalator moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► towards the host then it are the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► dc's whatever then it is an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► moving up from the basement and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► the the four like sponsors host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► whateverrr looking at a video feed until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► they arrive until the the purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► it's arrived like it's this weird anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► the name elevator pitch reflects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► idea that it should be possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► deliver the summary in the summer time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► span of an elevator ride or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► approximately 30 seconds to 2 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► and is widely credited to Eileen Rossen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► swag and Michael Caruso while he was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► editor for Vanity Fair for its word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► origins so presumably this well predate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► Silicon Valley so Believe It or Not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► Silicon Valley the world did not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► running around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► truth be told CSO this this show so I me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► I don't intrinsically have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► against reality shows in fact i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► some truly and utterly atrociously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► terrible reality shows not often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► competitions but be that as it may I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► have watched season of american idol in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► the past so I i have seen my fair share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► of reality shows i've seen the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► many times I want a reality show friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► yeah right exactly this this show does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► not speak to me at all and i find it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► be fairly preposterous but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► necessarily think that's a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► because i don't think the show is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► for me because it's to my know too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► about how the sausage is made and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► is not a show about how sausages made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► despite how their pitching it's a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► about making sausage making glamorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► and my head until this analogy but be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► that as it may I don't have anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► thanks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► yeah it's so I mean I can't watch it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► presume because i do not pay for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► music I never have I used it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► free trial and then never paid for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► I i would probably watch it if i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► for an episode or two just to see what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► thought I don't expect I would like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► and I don't think that's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► Marco what do you think I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► I've had similar reactions to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► programmers looking at this of just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50 ◼   ► wow this this kind of looks awful from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► the trailer it is very clear that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► really meant as a ripoff of shark tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► and whatever the original version shark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► tank was called so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► tank was called so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► or else not probably in your because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01 ◼   ► still have their TV and rename it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► everyone thinks we invented it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► might be entertaining show in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► like like what was that not freaks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► geeks a beauty and the geek like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► at this horrible dating reality show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► think i saw that it was delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► it was terrible but it was delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► yeah and like as a geek watching that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► your you could you see what you saw all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► the ridiculous holes in the show but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► was still fun to watch as like a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► garbage TV show and this could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► be that too for anybody who is remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► familiar with software development and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36 ◼   ► and building at absent building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► businesses this might be that kind of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► it might be a fun garbage watch it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► fine you know I think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► are reading audience because I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► wouldn't read much into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► there's a lot of arguments against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► that Apple maybe shouldn't be doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► or that it's going to cast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► development in a bad light or it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► to distort people's view and apps and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► think most of those things are both true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► on some level but not a big deal and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► reality and all likelihood like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► not going to be enough of an effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► anything to really matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► chances are this is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► not very far it's going to be watched by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► not that many people and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► make not that big of a cultural impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► of any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► so it's probably going to be fun garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19 ◼   ► TV for some people to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► I think it's weird that the music app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► everywhere and it's only an apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► a lot of people are going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► trouble ever even knowing it exists as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► result those people who do it exists are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► gonna have trouble finding it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► all going to hurt viewership probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► but anyway you know the actual show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► itself you know it's it's it's a garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► reality TV show the host of it are have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► I think limited knowledge about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► reality of a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► gary vaynerchuk I like a lot I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► he he really he is the person on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► show i'm most interested to to see I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► I've followed his work back in the day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► met him a couple times he's super nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► he is the real deal he knows what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► talking about not necessarily an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► development as far as i know but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► know he's more like a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► consultant but that's what i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► get to though is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► that's kind of more with the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15 ◼   ► about like it's called planet of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► apps and its focus on apps because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► apples funding it and making it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► promoting it so the Apple wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► all about them and the world they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► they created so of course they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► focusing the marketing and the naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► everything else on apps and all the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► developers are saying this is crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► because this isn't how apps are made but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► the show really isn't about apps it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► like if the show was called planet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► the websites and you know it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► website is like an interface to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► business and you eat you don't go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► saying hey I'm making the new website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► like no you may dig 1993 lemme tellya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► well yeah but the point is like for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► for the types of things that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► long shade that would be entertaining to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► watch at all no one's gonna watch a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► about you making a bespoke note-taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► app or something like that like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► gonna watch a show that's kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► shark tank or america's got talent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► stuff like that that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16 ◼   ► actually want to watch this garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► reality shows for and so they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► hear like the big business idea because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► this is a show i I'm a tweet about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► is kind of like a show for the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► people those people who was a cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► app-developers at-bat got at gathering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► stuff like I had this great idea for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► app i will you not tell me about you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► can't steal it you do 50 with me I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► the idea guy you you make the appt ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► here's my idea and they tell you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► ridiculous idea that is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► impossible and/or terrible this show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► for those people to watch kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► aspirationally because they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3830">TS</a>]

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01:03:54 ◼   ► want garbage TV to watch sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3834">TS</a>]

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01:03:59 ◼   ► reflect what it's like to be an indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► app developer because not only do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► not really want to watch that but most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► app development isn't in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3846">TS</a>]

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01:04:16 ◼   ► the error is not exactly the app itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3856">TS</a>]

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01:04:27 ◼   ► face to most businesses that were made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3867">TS</a>]

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01:05:08 ◼   ► don't think it's going to meaningfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► impact the app business or people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3909">TS</a>]

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01:05:33 ◼   ► of that development as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► thinking back to when we first talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3935">TS</a>]

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01:05:56 ◼   ► sitting there encoding like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3956">TS</a>]

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01:06:03 ◼   ► a show about app development but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► course like when the show comes out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/3964">TS</a>]

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01:07:19 ◼   ► from Apple does that sentence makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► sense to people that's what he wrote I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4041">TS</a>]

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01:07:25 ◼   ► from Apple the experts of good taste now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4045">TS</a>]

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01:07:35 ◼   ► planet of the apps and perhaps not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4055">TS</a>]

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01:07:44 ◼   ► about Apple getting into the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4064">TS</a>]

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01:08:05 ◼   ► can't but probably you shouldn't imbue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:09 ◼   ► that content with any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► sensibilities from your company which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12 ◼   ► sounds like was not an apple whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► is everything they do imbued with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► sensibility of Apple but content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4094">TS</a>]

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01:08:39 ◼   ► it's a wacky comedy make a good webcam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4119">TS</a>]

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01:22:31 ◼   ► card which is the thing that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4951">TS</a>]

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01:22:39 ◼   ► products to accept cable signals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/4959">TS</a>]

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01:24:11 ◼   ► interface that thing that's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5051">TS</a>]

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01:24:18 ◼   ► through until you soon start actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5058">TS</a>]

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01:24:33 ◼   ► they give demos of the product and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34 ◼   ► tries to do more than that it tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5074">TS</a>]

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01:24:39 ◼   ► it's not particularly pretty to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► but it will try to say hey here is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► show is available for you to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5083">TS</a>]

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01:24:46 ◼   ► from it it has amazon echo integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5086">TS</a>]

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01:24:56 ◼   ► say watch stranger things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58 ◼   ► determine the stranger things that shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► on netflix and i have three boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:01 ◼   ► connected that can all do netflix I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:03 ◼   ► want you to prefer to use the apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5103">TS</a>]

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01:25:07 ◼   ► start playing stranger things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5107">TS</a>]

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01:25:18 ◼   ► somewhere and so it will start playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:19 ◼   ► it from that for you so the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5119">TS</a>]

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01:25:27 ◼   ► remote remote you're controlling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:28 ◼   ► combobox the combo box is controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► the inputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:31 ◼   ► I wonder how they're doing the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:35 ◼   ► interface it doesn't look that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► it's mostly just text it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5137">TS</a>]

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01:25:44 ◼   ► and have nice pictures and more metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5144">TS</a>]

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01:25:56 ◼   ► sort of trying to insert themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5156">TS</a>]

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01:26:04 ◼   ► intentionally break them they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► accidentally break them especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06 ◼   ► their means of control involves I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5166">TS</a>]

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01:26:15 ◼   ► they have separate metadata somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5175">TS</a>]

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01:26:19 ◼   ► actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22 ◼   ► looking at the content or the hdmi think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5182">TS</a>]

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01:28:31 ◼   ► turn the roku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5311">TS</a>]

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01:28:39 ◼   ► switch the roku input and let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:40 ◼   ► control it with the roku remote that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5320">TS</a>]

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01:28:44 ◼   ► decent receiver and probably isn't a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46 ◼   ► of decent receivers but to me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5326">TS</a>]

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01:28:56 ◼   ► realized this and tried to build it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5336">TS</a>]

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01:28:59 ◼   ► a glorified hdmi switcher receiver and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02 ◼   ► ended up thinking this is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► hdmi switcher / receiver now but not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:08 ◼   ► bad news the bad news is it's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5348">TS</a>]

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01:29:12 ◼   ► alright and this forty dollars does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:15 ◼   ► include any of the boxes that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16 ◼   ► connect to it which doesnt a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18 ◼   ► because i already have a million TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► boxes but like the ideas you buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21 ◼   ► box you and it's like you get nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5361">TS</a>]

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01:29:24 ◼   ► with the discs in it's like yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26 ◼   ► there it's ready for you to plug things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► into but it's no good to you until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29 ◼   ► plug-in puts into it so four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:32 ◼   ► dollars and then hundred dollars for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:35 ◼   ► every box depending on what am I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36 ◼   ► the apple ones are expensive you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:37 ◼   ► sixty dollars for chromecast six dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:40 ◼   ► for cheap recall roku hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42 ◼   ► for a good one whatever but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44 ◼   ► already have all those boxes and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:46 ◼   ► if you don't have a receiver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:48 ◼   ► oh and also it's pretty big and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:49 ◼   ► weird it would and it's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51 ◼   ► going to be available to consumers until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53 ◼   ► 2018 so always caveat besides all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:56 ◼   ► head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:57 ◼   ► it's great yeah that they're gonna sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5397">TS</a>]

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01:30:01 ◼   ► three different kinds of wood three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:03 ◼   ► different kinds of ugly would be on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:04 ◼   ► of it don't now that you told me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5404">TS</a>]

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01:30:08 ◼   ► selling this to I know yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10 ◼   ► think this product is really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:11 ◼   ► anywhere but I was excited by the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13 ◼   ► that someone is tackled some of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:16 ◼   ► basic problems of this terrible terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► television age we live in where we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19 ◼   ► have way too many pucks or other kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:23 ◼   ► of boxes connected to our televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25 ◼   ► and very frequently watching any video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:30 ◼   ► content involved switching inputs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32 ◼   ► possibly also fishing remotes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35 ◼   ► the solutions that try to make it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36 ◼   ► are bad in some way including this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► but in the absence of a true omnivorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:41 ◼   ► box which can probably never exist the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43 ◼   ► same region open doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:44 ◼   ► we never exist business reasons on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46 ◼   ► of technical reasons equals death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5446">TS</a>]

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01:30:53 ◼   ► to push the envelope forward and help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55 ◼   ► somebody buys this company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57 ◼   ► incorporates they're good ideas into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58 ◼   ► their own products like tivo I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00 ◼   ► now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:02 ◼   ► come on come on I just want to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:06 ◼   ► business they're not by anybody please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08 ◼   ► do not waste your money buying these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:09 ◼   ► people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:09 ◼   ► well I want to buy them make their apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:13 ◼   ► TV better Apple gonna make a box like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► this across the neverwood but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► type of the type of functionality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:18 ◼   ► just like can we stop people from having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20 ◼   ► to do a switch inputs that would be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:23 ◼   ► like can't just do what I mean you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:26 ◼   ► notice because i turn the PlayStation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27 ◼   ► it probably want to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:28 ◼   ► playstation just switched and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:29 ◼   ► automatically nice thanks for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:33 ◼   ► sponsors this week 0 square space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5493">TS</a>]

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01:31:38 ◼   ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:44 ◼   ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:47 ◼   ► death was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► John did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► research Marco in kc would let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59 ◼   ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► know today p dot and if twitter follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12 ◼   ► s/he yl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:17 ◼   ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:26 ◼   ► recuse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:34 ◼   ► what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:39 ◼   ► we have an odd note in the show notes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:44 ◼   ► says John's Mac throws some more ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:49 ◼   ► with more in parentheses to ya throws in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:53 ◼   ► there's the failure throws as in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► ejected it it's a bit like a loogie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► across the room kind of exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01 ◼   ► handling we've talked about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:04 ◼   ► that's why this is this is a second the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06 ◼   ► second time this has happened i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:07 ◼   ► i'm gonna run of ATP and i think i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09 ◼   ► the same language last time the analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11 ◼   ► in trying to make here and failing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13 ◼   ► obviously is when a horse throws a shoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► you know that expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5595">TS</a>]

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01:33:22 ◼   ► means horse throws a shoe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:24 ◼   ► understanding I was not raised with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► horses easier either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5605">TS</a>]

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01:33:32 ◼   ► those the body and yeah i know that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34 ◼   ► at least yeah and they're attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35 ◼   ► somehow with like these weird-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37 ◼   ► spikes or nails or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39 ◼   ► it's scary and I don't understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:40 ◼   ► anyway the horses galloping along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:43 ◼   ► little metal u-shaped things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:45 ◼   ► supposed to say on the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5625">TS</a>]

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01:33:48 ◼   ► galloping along one of them goes flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5628">TS</a>]

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01:33:55 ◼   ► to walk comfortably where the horses are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5635">TS</a>]

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01:34:00 ◼   ► could go flying because as the horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5640">TS</a>]

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01:34:32 ◼   ► what should stop working and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5672">TS</a>]

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01:35:35 ◼   ► didn't break but after eight years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5735">TS</a>]

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01:36:23 ◼   ► find the pair of games that was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5783">TS</a>]

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01:38:45 ◼   ► that I think two generations ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5925">TS</a>]

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01:39:27 ◼   ► dealt with it rather than the rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/5967">TS</a>]

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01:41:32 ◼   ► while waiting for them to reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:33 ◼   ► sometimes I forgot that I was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:34 ◼   ► the middle of the chat like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► it's long when you forgotten like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:37 ◼   ► little boot goes off like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:38 ◼   ► right I my customers a partnership to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► get new ram so hopefully that will be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44 ◼   ► the way soon i'm surprised at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46 ◼   ► you don't just call them up on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:47 ◼   ► and just be like hey it's me again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49 ◼   ► they're like all right how big to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51 ◼   ► good to all right just send it out yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53 ◼   ► i mean like if they feel they have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:55 ◼   ► lifetime or maybe they'll don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56 ◼   ► don't realize you by random odbc like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:59 ◼   ► it goes bad they'll just keep replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:00 ◼   ► it forever like I think that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02 ◼   ► works like you do have to pay to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04 ◼   ► your old room back to them but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:06 ◼   ► cheap it's very lightweight right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► it's a couple bucks to ship over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09 ◼   ► that is why by the way I saved the boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:11 ◼   ► I never throw out the boxes the new ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:13 ◼   ► I just you know i'll just keep going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:16 ◼   ► keep getting ram forever for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:17 ◼   ► machine and it's fine with me write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19 ◼   ► and I think it's like every every two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21 ◼   ► three years that throws a dim and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23 ◼   ► know I'm okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25 ◼   ► it's like cases a BMW every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:27 ◼   ► while you know 6,000 miles the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► pump to go like okay so it would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:31 ◼   ► after two years you just lost two cpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:33 ◼   ► well the CPUC that's what I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:36 ◼   ► afraid I mean ram like I could just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► I'm always afraid that the slots are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40 ◼   ► gonna go bad like that but even if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► did I can get by with 14 gigs ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:43 ◼   ► instead of 18 like I'm okay I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:45 ◼   ► such a motley collection of rams machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► like weird amounts and weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49 ◼   ► combinations is but as long as on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:52 ◼   ► long as I'm in the team's I'm okay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:53 ◼   ► what I do with this neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55 ◼   ► it's just I'm trying to predict like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:58 ◼   ► during which year will you stop using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00 ◼   ► this mac with it when it dies that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:04 ◼   ► stop me right so it actually dies what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06 ◼   ► am I going to do but if it doesn't dive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08 ◼   ► my current plan is look this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:10 ◼   ► way to wwc there's still no mac pro for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► it's an iMac pro either way like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15 ◼   ► a macpro maybe maybe not but if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:18 ◼   ► no mac pro then I'm getting an imac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:20 ◼   ► if there's an imac pro I'm getting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:22 ◼   ► imac pro so my wife's want to just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:24 ◼   ► an imac now it's like I'm resigned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► the fact that i'm going to buy something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:27 ◼   ► that looks for all the world like a 5pm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:29 ◼   ► I can pretty much okay without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:30 ◼   ► used her as a lot of whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32 ◼   ► not going to make it active anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:33 ◼   ► what the hell can I do the next best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:34 ◼   ► thing is the 5k I'll be okay with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:37 ◼   ► i'm not going to buy and now i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:39 ◼   ► wait to see it w see what the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:41 ◼   ► is there going to be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:43 ◼   ► Mac Pro is there going to be a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:44 ◼   ► imac for pros either called I mac pro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:47 ◼   ► not that's when I make my buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49 ◼   ► decision but the thing of it is is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► had a new mac pro what was it 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:54 ◼   ► ago now when when the trashcan came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56 ◼   ► you had a new mac pro and you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58 ◼   ► want that one so what makes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00 ◼   ► you're going to suddenly decide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:02 ◼   ► this one is ok if i have to reconsider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04 ◼   ► well the problem with knowing what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:05 ◼   ► know now is I also know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:07 ◼   ► reliability issues of that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:09 ◼   ► like when it came out the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:11 ◼   ► didn't buy it was like well is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:13 ◼   ► doesn't quite suit my needs like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:15 ◼   ► think that much cpu and GPU is aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:17 ◼   ► that great and it's super expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:18 ◼   ► so on and so forth but all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20 ◼   ► conversations about that for with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:22 ◼   ► expectation that they'll wait for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:24 ◼   ► next Mac Pro like when they revise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26 ◼   ► right like and it wasn't such a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28 ◼   ► assumption i thought that happen maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30 ◼   ► they even did it for the cheese graters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32 ◼   ► even like that you know the fake new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► for the show was founded on like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36 ◼   ► still a revision it was still like bait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► they change some stuff I none of us I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:40 ◼   ► think could have predicted like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42 ◼   ► were literally not release another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:44 ◼   ► version of the machine-like ever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► just no no I forgot one here to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49 ◼   ► through it like they just won't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:50 ◼   ► and that was not in my head so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:52 ◼   ► me passing on that mac pro feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6292">TS</a>]

01:44:54 ◼   ► know it's the first one like wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:56 ◼   ► the second division i kinda like a dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:57 ◼   ► with the five-time accident by the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59 ◼   ► one like marketed or even those good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:00 ◼   ► machine like the second one came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:01 ◼   ► okay this is the one to get it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:03 ◼   ► like it's you know everything settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:04 ◼   ► down there's no big problems got the p3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► screen that's totally what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08 ◼   ► expecting to do with trash can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:09 ◼   ► they just never made another one and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11 ◼   ► you know what can you do you make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:15 ◼   ► progress in your car decision we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:18 ◼   ► we had a lot of feedback on that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:20 ◼   ► lovely if I love sweetheart can I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22 ◼   ► of do this for you Casey please Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:25 ◼   ► wants a stick shift that was apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27 ◼   ► not emphasize enough in the past show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:30 ◼   ► the past 18 shows and the entire run of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:33 ◼   ► neutral right if I he hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35 ◼   ► keeping it a secret but people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:36 ◼   ► forgetting keep forgetting or people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:39 ◼   ► I know you said you wanted to stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:40 ◼   ► shift but if you considered not a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:41 ◼   ► shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:42 ◼   ► yeah consider that case you considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44 ◼   ► not a stick shift because i know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:45 ◼   ► said you wanted one but think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:46 ◼   ► not oh you really put that when you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:51 ◼   ► it that way I see so not a stick shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54 ◼   ► that's that what you're saying not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:55 ◼   ► thing i want right also a pretty close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► number two on that list was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:00 ◼   ► front-wheel drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:02 ◼   ► mmhmm yeah a lot of people say no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:06 ◼   ► see you don't worry about that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:07 ◼   ► worry about a stick shift worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:08 ◼   ► front-wheel-drive you know I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:09 ◼   ► perfect front-wheel-drive battleship in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:13 ◼   ► car for you that you're looking alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6373">TS</a>]

01:46:15 ◼   ► that seems like that's exactly your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:17 ◼   ► criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:18 ◼   ► I mean everything exactly as they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:19 ◼   ► they were arguing you know they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:21 ◼   ► saying most people like yeah some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23 ◼   ► just plain forgot because i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:24 ◼   ► they were doing a whole email about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26 ◼   ► the car you should get but other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:28 ◼   ► pitching you're saying here's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:30 ◼   ► should consider four-wheel-drive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► not your father's from blah blah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33 ◼   ► mostly respect those pitches but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35 ◼   ► they just don't know your stubbornness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37 ◼   ► now would you call that an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:39 ◼   ► pitch or an escalator pitch called an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:42 ◼   ► email pitch and I think people need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:44 ◼   ► have said oh I have to think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:46 ◼   ► people made good arguments like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48 ◼   ► were going to try to talk you out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50 ◼   ► yeah stick shift or we will drive people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:52 ◼   ► had some good arguments based on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:54 ◼   ► actual experiences driving these cars so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56 ◼   ► I think there was a good quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57 ◼   ► feedback in there but i'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:58 ◼   ► much help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6418">TS</a>]

01:46:59 ◼   ► my other favorite was everyone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:02 ◼   ► entire world i counted it's true telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► me you should buy WRX in fact in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:07 ◼   ► chat room as we speak two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:09 ◼   ► individuals are telling me to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:12 ◼   ► subaru WRX no I want allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6432">TS</a>]

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01:47:16 ◼   ► tweeted within a day of the show coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:19 ◼   ► out because I was already getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:20 ◼   ► inundated by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22 ◼   ► two things I said you know number one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25 ◼   ► think the WRX isn't classy enough I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:29 ◼   ► want something that's a little bit less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:30 ◼   ► boy racer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:31 ◼   ► secondly this is my past subaru and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:35 ◼   ► a picture of my legacy GT now this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37 ◼   ► after I sold it i think we might discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39 ◼   ► on the show but it was after I sold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► and it was dotted literally died in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:45 ◼   ► fire you know that phrase that I love so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47 ◼   ► very much died any friggin fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:50 ◼   ► attributing that to the car or is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:53 ◼   ► the owner like I picture to but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:55 ◼   ► you didn't own the car you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:56 ◼   ► how that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:57 ◼   ► that's true however I let me remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6477">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► that car smelled of gasoline / petrol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:03 ◼   ► for most of the time that I the wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:05 ◼   ► all stayed on it though unlike industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08 ◼   ► this is true which was an improvement a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:10 ◼   ► little borrow oh yeah we have a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:13 ◼   ► against the car wheel falls off next car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:15 ◼   ► dies in a fire that he's doing pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:17 ◼   ► well I think I didn't hear this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:19 ◼   ► actually just consuming its engine parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:22 ◼   ► in a hail of medication only yeah the no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:24 ◼   ► big deal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► oh it's not what i'm going to factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:27 ◼   ► here Casey maybe you drive really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:29 ◼   ► weirdly i guess i don't know but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► thought i had a like a few people reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35 ◼   ► out with the interesting ideas and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:38 ◼   ► a handful of people reach out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40 ◼   ► the Golf R is just as good as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43 ◼   ► I had a handful of people with various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45 ◼   ► degrees of aggression say stop fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► with this just least your damn car which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► i think i understand that in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:54 ◼   ► prayers probably some truth to it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► fact Marco you made a pretty good pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:57 ◼   ► for I don't remember that was on slacker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:59 ◼   ► and Twitter but regardless leasing would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► surely fix many if not all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:05 ◼   ► problems but it creates other problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:08 ◼   ► which is you know i'm just throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:10 ◼   ► money into a pit i'm borrowing a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:12 ◼   ► but you're doing that man therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:13 ◼   ► you're there you're any ownership of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:16 ◼   ► car is throwing money into a pit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:18 ◼   ► only borrowing it no matter how you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20 ◼   ► it that is the result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► it's only a difference of of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24 ◼   ► mechanics of how that actually happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26 ◼   ► and it on what time scale and input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:28 ◼   ► pattern and like what I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:30 ◼   ► leasing which I said before i'll just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:32 ◼   ► to the very quick summary you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34 ◼   ► not the absolute least money to spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:37 ◼   ► a car like that at least one defending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:39 ◼   ► car is to buy a lightly used honda or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:43 ◼   ► toyota and drive it until it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:44 ◼   ► drive anymore that is by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:46 ◼   ► cheapest and the cheapest way to own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48 ◼   ► car but if you're going to go the route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:51 ◼   ► of nice cars and in particular for go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:54 ◼   ► the route of buying new usually Elise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:57 ◼   ► really nice for that because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6597">TS</a>]

01:50:00 ◼   ► predictable and fixed and you put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:04 ◼   ► risk of market fluctuations the value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:07 ◼   ► your car whether it ever gets in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6607">TS</a>]

01:50:10 ◼   ► accident that like you put the risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:12 ◼   ► all that and the eventual resale value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:15 ◼   ► back on the manufacturer know and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:18 ◼   ► have a very predictable guaranteed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:21 ◼   ► next three years of here's what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:23 ◼   ► going to cost me every year or every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► month or whatever and then at the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:28 ◼   ► is done it is over you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6628">TS</a>]

01:50:30 ◼   ► worry about it and am I gonna lose a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:32 ◼   ► of resale for this little scratch i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34 ◼   ► over here or whatever else I and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:37 ◼   ► and all the maintenance is included so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:39 ◼   ► like it's just it's a way to just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:41 ◼   ► this weird like severe up-and-down spiky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:44 ◼   ► expense pattern of owning a car and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:46 ◼   ► make it flat make it flat but expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:49 ◼   ► but financing for financing new versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► leasing new it's kind of a toss-up most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:56 ◼   ► it depends on the on the incentives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:58 ◼   ► the interest rates of of the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00 ◼   ► month and and that brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:01 ◼   ► configuration looking at sometimes leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03 ◼   ► actually cheaper because what a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05 ◼   ► the brands will do is they will they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:07 ◼   ► will use lease incentives at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:09 ◼   ► specials to help them reach you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:12 ◼   ► earnings for this quarter at it at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6672">TS</a>]

01:51:15 ◼   ► own expense basically like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► like borrowing as their own future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:18 ◼   ► so you can actually that the best deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6678">TS</a>]

01:51:20 ◼   ► in the car industry usually are for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► cars at least usually our lease specials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24 ◼   ► for that reason that you're not taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26 ◼   ► advantage of the manufacturers need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:28 ◼   ► boost their numbers in a certain times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30 ◼   ► man or whatever but that that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:32 ◼   ► be less applicable to the kinds of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:33 ◼   ► you're looking at honestly but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► that's where Lisa's are good they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:37 ◼   ► they're fixed their predictable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39 ◼   ► they're kind of like if your usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► pattern like if your mileage driven fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:44 ◼   ► within one at least can do with yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► does then it really makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:48 ◼   ► especially for the kind of cars you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:51 ◼   ► looking at which are fast car sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:53 ◼   ► cars and you know it's one thing to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:56 ◼   ► to leave something more conventional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:59 ◼   ► more like you know low key with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► lower-key not as tweaked up engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:03 ◼   ► not high-performance breaks not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:04 ◼   ► high-performance parts you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06 ◼   ► one thing but the kind of car you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► looking at as you know too well now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► very expensive to maintain that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:14 ◼   ► gonna have a problem with any any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:16 ◼   ► you look at this that still involves you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:18 ◼   ► having a soul so because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► that's why I think she's going to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23 ◼   ► leasing because again you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25 ◼   ► losing a bunch of money about how you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:27 ◼   ► this with leasing at least it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:29 ◼   ► compatible with the kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:31 ◼   ► high-powered sporty cars that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33 ◼   ► looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34 ◼   ► and it allows it to be predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37 ◼   ► there's no more surprises and I tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:40 ◼   ► what that is a freeing decision like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► because I i I've done now every method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► of owning a car i have i have bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47 ◼   ► used i have bought new buyer financing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:49 ◼   ► and I have leased and leasing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:53 ◼   ► only one of those I did more than once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:55 ◼   ► and here's some reason for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:58 ◼   ► my experience doing the other two were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► both very poor when i bought used I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02 ◼   ► a maintenance nightmare when I finance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:05 ◼   ► knew I lost a killing on on resale value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:09 ◼   ► because at one time had a door panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:11 ◼   ► replace not my fault the car was parked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:13 ◼   ► and somebody back into my door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:15 ◼   ► you're gonna replace and they saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:17 ◼   ► when i went to resell it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19 ◼   ► like they could tell that it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:20 ◼   ► repainted from looking at the Villa take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22 ◼   ► a look at like the edge on the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:23 ◼   ► you can see all this repair panel even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:25 ◼   ► look from the outside but anyway yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:28 ◼   ► i lost like five thousand dollars off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:30 ◼   ► the resale price on that car like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:32 ◼   ► horrible and it just sunk all like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:35 ◼   ► was it that was my cord and like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:38 ◼   ► all the calculations i didn't think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:39 ◼   ► the best value car that best value was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42 ◼   ► destroyed because that resale loss so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:45 ◼   ► everything that I thought I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6825">TS</a>]

01:53:46 ◼   ► right was out the window because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6826">TS</a>]

01:53:48 ◼   ► bad luck similar to what you're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6828">TS</a>]

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01:53:52 ◼   ► of your calculation of what you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:55 ◼   ► to spend in this car is being thrown out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:56 ◼   ► the window because weird stuff is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58 ◼   ► wrong and you just happen to have bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6838">TS</a>]

01:53:59 ◼   ► luck with the maintenance on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6839">TS</a>]

01:54:01 ◼   ► that can happen with any car you get no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:02 ◼   ► matter how reliable is that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04 ◼   ► this is all too silly this is why Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06 ◼   ► and she's releasing you get the new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:09 ◼   ► and yes it you're paying what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:11 ◼   ► paying the cost for a new car right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:13 ◼   ► and that's never gonna be cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:14 ◼   ► no matter how you do it but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► going to get a new or newish car with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:18 ◼   ► lease you pay every month you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6858">TS</a>]

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01:54:26 ◼   ► color whatever you want your stick shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6866">TS</a>]

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01:54:31 ◼   ► want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:31 ◼   ► three years later you turn into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33 ◼   ► dealer and you get something else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6873">TS</a>]

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01:54:37 ◼   ► if you get like a scratch in months six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:41 ◼   ► police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:42 ◼   ► you don't have to look at that and say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:45 ◼   ► am I going to look at the scratch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47 ◼   ► the next 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:48 ◼   ► and B what is gonna kill my resale value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:51 ◼   ► or do I have to like go get this fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:52 ◼   ► some really expensive because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6892">TS</a>]

01:54:54 ◼   ► what Lisa's have scratches Lawtons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6894">TS</a>]

01:54:55 ◼   ► built-in you don't have to pay anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:57 ◼   ► unless it's a really huge dent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6897">TS</a>]

01:54:59 ◼   ► something like it just fine you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6899">TS</a>]

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01:55:03 ◼   ► allowance and just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6903">TS</a>]

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01:55:08 ◼   ► there's there's so much less also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10 ◼   ► if you're kind of unsure about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:13 ◼   ► you want like one of the reasons i got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6913">TS</a>]

01:55:14 ◼   ► red car this time i'm not sure like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:16 ◼   ► having never owned a car that was a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:19 ◼   ► color before I wasn't sure I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6919">TS</a>]

01:55:21 ◼   ► it and but you know i'm not buying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6921">TS</a>]

01:55:23 ◼   ► car for ten years i'm leaving this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6923">TS</a>]

01:55:24 ◼   ► for three years so i can take a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26 ◼   ► risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6926">TS</a>]

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01:55:29 ◼   ► I if I could deal with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:30 ◼   ► rear-wheel-drive car in a place that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:32 ◼   ► winters and if i was buying a car for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:35 ◼   ► ten years i'm not sure i would take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37 ◼   ► risk but because it was only at least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:39 ◼   ► knew that it was you know a much shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6939">TS</a>]

01:55:42 ◼   ► commitment and so I did it and it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:45 ◼   ► out great now I have my red car that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6945">TS</a>]

01:55:47 ◼   ► working out great like so I you're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:49 ◼   ► to take more risks with with the choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:50 ◼   ► you make because it isn't a long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:52 ◼   ► commitment and the psychology is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:54 ◼   ► more relaxed because you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:57 ◼   ► a lease and the time you're giving it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6957">TS</a>]

01:56:00 ◼   ► is fixed the value that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:02 ◼   ► get it fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:04 ◼   ► what you're paying every month is fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:05 ◼   ► and at the end you just repeat you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:07 ◼   ► something else and process repeats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10 ◼   ► you can you know every three years you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:11 ◼   ► have a chance to stop doing that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:12 ◼   ► want to but you know honestly once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:15 ◼   ► start asking hard to stop because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:16 ◼   ► really really nice because he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:19 ◼   ► want a three-year stand with a car he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:21 ◼   ► looking for a long-term relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:23 ◼   ► anything you can also get 45 year leases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6983">TS</a>]

01:56:25 ◼   ► I I just don't know if anybody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:27 ◼   ► does but you can but every every choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:30 ◼   ► you have for that in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:32 ◼   ► you're going to have to make some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:34 ◼   ► of major compromise on what you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:35 ◼   ► ideally want write it no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:38 ◼   ► choice you have in front of you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:39 ◼   ► to compromise on something in it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/6999">TS</a>]

01:56:42 ◼   ► like one big compromise to avoid making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7002">TS</a>]

01:56:45 ◼   ► a whole bunch of other smaller ones if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:47 ◼   ► you choose leasing as that compromise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:49 ◼   ► make value you know you you object to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:51 ◼   ► leasing seems like mostly a moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:53 ◼   ► standpoint you know it's it's less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7013">TS</a>]

01:56:55 ◼   ► like whether you can afford more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:57 ◼   ► you just don't like the idea of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7017">TS</a>]

01:56:59 ◼   ► if you can compromise on that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7019">TS</a>]

01:57:03 ◼   ► else you can get exactly what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7023">TS</a>]

01:57:06 ◼   ► yeah sort of i mean i guess that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7026">TS</a>]

01:57:10 ◼   ► but the only the only things that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:14 ◼   ► give me access to really is BMWs and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:19 ◼   ► could just buy used one or a Cadillac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:21 ◼   ► and I can i I don't think I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7041">TS</a>]

01:57:23 ◼   ► Cadillac so I won't let you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7043">TS</a>]

01:57:25 ◼   ► Cadillac well I mean I guess what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:27 ◼   ► saying is I don't know what real at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:28 ◼   ► leasing doesn't really open any doors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:31 ◼   ► don't think that aren't already in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7051">TS</a>]

01:57:33 ◼   ► of me it just solves the maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7053">TS</a>]

01:57:35 ◼   ► problem because the everything will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:38 ◼   ► on the I will forever be under warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:40 ◼   ► what's next marker you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7060">TS</a>]

01:57:42 ◼   ► recommend a three-year marriage yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:44 ◼   ► that's just what you're suggesting to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:47 ◼   ► our owners that's right whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:50 ◼   ► marriages and five-year marriage that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:51 ◼   ► great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:52 ◼   ► try it like now that's not you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7072">TS</a>]

01:57:54 ◼   ► understand the relationship between him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:57 ◼   ► and his car know you enjoyed you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7077">TS</a>]

01:57:59 ◼   ► doing what are my other recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:00 ◼   ► plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:01 ◼   ► not quite i would recommend if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7081">TS</a>]

01:58:03 ◼   ► gonna do like the maximize value plan i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7083">TS</a>]

01:58:05 ◼   ► would recommend buying a HS off lease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:07 ◼   ► toyota or honda and then owning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7087">TS</a>]

01:58:10 ◼   ► into the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:11 ◼   ► you're doing it all you're doing almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:12 ◼   ► that which is by a new Honda and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:14 ◼   ► into the ground like that is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7094">TS</a>]

01:58:16 ◼   ► totally valid way to do it you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7096">TS</a>]

01:58:18 ◼   ► can't do the leases for two reasons one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20 ◼   ► try finding a stick shift undercard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:24 ◼   ► Delise it's hard enough to find someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7104">TS</a>]

01:58:26 ◼   ► who will sell you one from the factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:27 ◼   ► they do not exist and to i have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:31 ◼   ► car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:32 ◼   ► I like having a brand-new car brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7112">TS</a>]

01:58:34 ◼   ► cars are awesome and together with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:35 ◼   ► least do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7115">TS</a>]

01:58:36 ◼   ► brand-spanking-new that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7116">TS</a>]

01:58:39 ◼   ► great things in life is getting a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:41 ◼   ► car I would never go that for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:42 ◼   ► one-year-old i will eat the 5k that I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:45 ◼   ► depreciation that's very surprising to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:47 ◼   ► me who doesn't like a new car come on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7127">TS</a>]

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01:58:57 ◼   ► or two-year old car that was exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7137">TS</a>]

01:59:01 ◼   ► build i wanted that we used by to farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7141">TS</a>]

01:59:03 ◼   ► and driven 500 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7143">TS</a>]

01:59:05 ◼   ► yeah exactly that's true it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:07 ◼   ► into truth be told that was my BMW now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:10 ◼   ► he had been driven many many miles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7150">TS</a>]

01:59:12 ◼   ► but the only way those miles could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:14 ◼   ► been accrued in the time and in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7154">TS</a>]

01:59:16 ◼   ► the first owner had it was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7156">TS</a>]

01:59:17 ◼   ► highway and so on paper might be my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7157">TS</a>]

01:59:20 ◼   ► was perfect it was a relatively decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:22 ◼   ► turns out he was a mailman additional I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:25 ◼   ► think that my understanding was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:26 ◼   ► actually insurance stopping gonna stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:28 ◼   ► and go and what happens happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:30 ◼   ► could be but now my understanding was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7170">TS</a>]

01:59:32 ◼   ► was an insurance like agents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:34 ◼   ► something like that but we will problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7174">TS</a>]

01:59:36 ◼   ► market will probably in just 25 we cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:38 ◼   ► this from the show but as you guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:40 ◼   ► talking I went to auto trader and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42 ◼   ► quickly amassed the list of makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:45 ◼   ► are reasonably easily available to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47 ◼   ► the united states and i will run through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:49 ◼   ► them alphabetically so everyone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7189">TS</a>]

01:59:51 ◼   ► know the options in front of me and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7191">TS</a>]

01:59:53 ◼   ► answer is that there are almost none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7193">TS</a>]

01:59:54 ◼   ► acura accurate does not believe in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7194">TS</a>]

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01:59:58 ◼   ► alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7198">TS</a>]

01:59:58 ◼   ► alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7198">TS</a>]

02:00:00 ◼   ► although no sticks done any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:04 ◼   ► questions a couple other quick notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:07 ◼   ► first of all porsche is theoretically an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:10 ◼   ► option which I had forgotten but a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7210">TS</a>]

02:00:12 ◼   ► way too expensive be have you seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:13 ◼   ► Panamera it's freaking hideous as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15 ◼   ► if there's no forward our sticks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:17 ◼   ► Panamera doesn't come to stick doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:18 ◼   ► how you know now that you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:20 ◼   ► you're probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7220">TS</a>]

02:00:21 ◼   ► secondly in cat in this individual is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:23 ◼   ► not the only person who said this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7223">TS</a>]

02:00:24 ◼   ► you're too picky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26 ◼   ► well thank you this is what i want i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:28 ◼   ► don't know this is what i want i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7228">TS</a>]

02:00:31 ◼   ► allowed to be picky from spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:32 ◼   ► between 20 and 80 thousand dollars i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:35 ◼   ► allowed to be picky so sorry tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:38 ◼   ► nuggies i would probably get a used go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7238">TS</a>]

02:00:41 ◼   ► far and then as I thought more about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7241">TS</a>]

02:00:44 ◼   ► i thought you know what I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7244">TS</a>]

02:00:47 ◼   ► it's really even worth just trading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:48 ◼   ► in because why would i spend 3242 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7248">TS</a>]

02:00:52 ◼   ► Marco has his way $80,000 on a new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:54 ◼   ► when I can just continue to feed my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7254">TS</a>]

02:00:58 ◼   ► from time to time and just call today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7258">TS</a>]

02:01:00 ◼   ► and so what I think i'm going to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7260">TS</a>]

02:01:03 ◼   ► just suck it up and deal with the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7263">TS</a>]

02:01:05 ◼   ► that my car is always going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7265">TS</a>]

02:01:06 ◼   ► this job cases BMW is my macpro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7266">TS</a>]

02:01:10 ◼   ► actually you're right and that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:11 ◼   ► absolutely sick just go to you see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:14 ◼   ► they can send your new water pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7274">TS</a>]

02:01:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs every time it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:18 ◼   ► little send you another one just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7278">TS</a>]

02:01:19 ◼   ► patient the old one back its fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:21 ◼   ► nobody lied i was morally found it last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7281">TS</a>]

02:01:23 ◼   ► week but as I got thinking about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7283">TS</a>]

02:01:24 ◼   ► like actually got a couple of offers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:28 ◼   ► one person I know in one like friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7288">TS</a>]

02:01:30 ◼   ► a listener that had said oh I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:33 ◼   ► an m2 soon and I have a golf r that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:36 ◼   ► looking to unload and we started lightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7296">TS</a>]

02:01:39 ◼   ► negotiating on it and then I thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:41 ◼   ► myself I don't know about this like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:44 ◼   ► haven't told this individual one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:46 ◼   ► the other but a by current thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:48 ◼   ► sitting here now is why would I throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7308">TS</a>]

02:01:50 ◼   ► thirty to forty thousand dollars at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:53 ◼   ► problem that's happening every few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7313">TS</a>]

02:01:55 ◼   ► months for $1,000 like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:58 ◼   ► really fix my problem but the privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7318">TS</a>]

02:01:59 ◼   ► of driving around volkswagen rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7319">TS</a>]

02:02:01 ◼   ► right and I all i'm doing is being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7321">TS</a>]

02:02:03 ◼   ► petulant child at that point if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:05 ◼   ► didn't already have a really nice 335 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7325">TS</a>]

02:02:08 ◼   ► like if you were starting from nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:10 ◼   ► that'd be another story but because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:13 ◼   ► already have something that is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7333">TS</a>]

02:02:15 ◼   ► yes it is a maintenance headache but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7335">TS</a>]

02:02:18 ◼   ► you're looking at pure value for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7338">TS</a>]

02:02:20 ◼   ► money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7340">TS</a>]

02:02:20 ◼   ► maintaining a BMW is going to hurt your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7340">TS</a>]

02:02:24 ◼   ► soul but it will actually be cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7344">TS</a>]

02:02:26 ◼   ► right and that's the thing is that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7346">TS</a>]

02:02:29 ◼   ► soul is damaged but I know my wallet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7349">TS</a>]

02:02:31 ◼   ► thanking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:31 ◼   ► probably go far like aside from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:33 ◼   ► whole rabbit thing that right there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7353">TS</a>]

02:02:35 ◼   ► two critical problems with the Gulf our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:36 ◼   ► number-one the trunk really isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7356">TS</a>]

02:02:38 ◼   ► big with the seats up it's not tiny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7358">TS</a>]

02:02:41 ◼   ► it's not that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7361">TS</a>]

02:02:43 ◼   ► secondly and this is going to sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7363">TS</a>]

02:02:45 ◼   ► silly and this is just getting even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7365">TS</a>]

02:02:48 ◼   ► deeper into the oh you're so freakin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7368">TS</a>]

02:02:49 ◼   ► picky which is accurate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7369">TS</a>]

02:02:51 ◼   ► conversations and so they don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7371">TS</a>]

02:02:52 ◼   ► about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:52 ◼   ► yeah there's no sunroof and I freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:56 ◼   ► love some roofs i love them i use mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7376">TS</a>]

02:02:58 ◼   ► constantly even at temperatures where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7378">TS</a>]

02:03:00 ◼   ► probably shouldn't and the Gulf are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7380">TS</a>]

02:03:02 ◼   ► unavailable with a sunroof yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7382">TS</a>]

02:03:04 ◼   ► that honestly changes a car dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:06 ◼   ► like what if you want if your son refers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7386">TS</a>]

02:03:09 ◼   ► and I am to understand if you're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7389">TS</a>]

02:03:10 ◼   ► person and you don't have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7390">TS</a>]

02:03:12 ◼   ► it matters a lot yeah so in summary that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:16 ◼   ► so what I'm backing myself into is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7396">TS</a>]

02:03:18 ◼   ► the Golf R which is very close on paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7398">TS</a>]

02:03:21 ◼   ► has the small issue of trunk and thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7401">TS</a>]

02:03:25 ◼   ► medium-sized issue sunroof the 80s or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:29 ◼   ► ats-v is probably what I want is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7409">TS</a>]

02:03:31 ◼   ► damn expensive the focus like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:34 ◼   ► it's either front-wheel drive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7414">TS</a>]

02:03:36 ◼   ► all-wheel drive and i look like i am 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:38 ◼   ► the chevy SS is really the right east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7418">TS</a>]

02:03:42 ◼   ► answer except the entertainment would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7422">TS</a>]

02:03:44 ◼   ► murder me and now they're not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7424">TS</a>]

02:03:46 ◼   ► them anymore and so really the problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7426">TS</a>]

02:03:49 ◼   ► have is that either i need to drive an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7429">TS</a>]

02:03:51 ◼   ► a4 and realize it's not that bad or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:54 ◼   ► just suck it up because BMWs the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7434">TS</a>]

02:03:56 ◼   ► manufacturer like I've backed myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7436">TS</a>]

02:03:58 ◼   ► back into BMW and all this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7438">TS</a>]

02:04:00 ◼   ► endeavor was to get myself away from BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7440">TS</a>]

02:04:03 ◼   ► and now of just backed myself into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:06 ◼   ► only option really God's BMW look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:08 ◼   ► sometimes you get it right the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7448">TS</a>]

02:04:09 ◼   ► time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:10 ◼   ► yeah thank God over there and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7450">TS</a>]

02:04:12 ◼   ► else message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7452">TS</a>]

02:04:13 ◼   ► yeah except except for the car front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7453">TS</a>]

02:04:16 ◼   ► maybe not the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:17 ◼   ► what do you think last longer your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7457">TS</a>]

02:04:21 ◼   ► or johns mac pro my car but not by a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7461">TS</a>]

02:04:24 ◼   ► you've got a long way to go to catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:25 ◼   ► to my you only have a thing for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:27 ◼   ► years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7467">TS</a>]

02:04:27 ◼   ► no you're saying I think Marco saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7467">TS</a>]

02:04:29 ◼   ► what's getting replaced first yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:31 ◼   ► oh my mac programs either this this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7471">TS</a>]

02:04:34 ◼   ► summer I'm getting something know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7474">TS</a>]

02:04:35 ◼   ► whether this thing breaks or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:37 ◼   ► you say that now i don't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7477">TS</a>]

02:04:39 ◼   ► i'm just going to get an imac like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:41 ◼   ► worst-case scenario of the introduce no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7481">TS</a>]

02:04:43 ◼   ► new max at the end of this year i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:45 ◼   ► just get an imac because danger 0 new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7485">TS</a>]

02:04:48 ◼   ► max that means like well forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:49 ◼   ► the mac pro forget about my macpro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7489">TS</a>]

02:04:51 ◼   ► whatever just get a five-year imac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:53 ◼   ► I can take a hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7493">TS</a>]

02:04:54 ◼   ► there's probably gonna be a new 5k imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7494">TS</a>]

02:04:56 ◼   ► like in a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7496">TS</a>]

02:04:57 ◼   ► I'm not getting that one right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7497">TS</a>]

02:04:59 ◼   ► and so this summer you it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:02 ◼   ► like a four-month old imac in the lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:04 ◼   ► you're not going to buy a four-month old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:05 ◼   ► imac they're gonna do something w SI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7505">TS</a>]

02:05:07 ◼   ► unit for something is not introducing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7507">TS</a>]

02:05:10 ◼   ► macpro that will be a signal to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12 ◼   ► guess what it's not gonna happen so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:14 ◼   ► give it up like okay I i think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7514">TS</a>]

02:05:17 ◼   ► based on like rumors and crap i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7517">TS</a>]

02:05:19 ◼   ► it's very unlikely that we're gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:20 ◼   ► like a new mac pro or imac pro this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7520">TS</a>]

02:05:23 ◼   ► summer I think it's too soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7523">TS</a>]

02:05:24 ◼   ► so what assuming that the summer comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7524">TS</a>]

02:05:28 ◼   ► and passes and it's you know july and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7528">TS</a>]

02:05:31 ◼   ► there's still no no new imac pro or mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:35 ◼   ► pro are you gonna buy the then four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7535">TS</a>]

02:05:37 ◼   ► month old imac USBC you say you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7537">TS</a>]

02:05:40 ◼   ► four-month-old like it's so old that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7540">TS</a>]

02:05:42 ◼   ► wouldn't buy before month-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7542">TS</a>]

02:05:43 ◼   ► that'sthat's in the in the baby hood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7543">TS</a>]

02:05:46 ◼   ► that mac and imax lifecycle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7546">TS</a>]

02:05:48 ◼   ► appropriate i modified again for 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7548">TS</a>]

02:05:50 ◼   ► months ago and I say you're gonna wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7550">TS</a>]

02:05:52 ◼   ► till the next one I bet you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:54 ◼   ► buy the imac that hasn't even come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:55 ◼   ► yet all right i'll bet that scenario is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:57 ◼   ► conceivable but i still think unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7557">TS</a>]

02:06:00 ◼   ► and I'm not gonna roll it out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7560">TS</a>]

02:06:02 ◼   ► that is something i would do i will bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7562">TS</a>]

02:06:04 ◼   ► that you don't replace your macro this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7564">TS</a>]

02:06:06 ◼   ► year I mean I am ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:11 ◼   ► leaning on John side but man is a close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7571">TS</a>]

02:06:15 ◼   ► man is a close everybody got nothing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:18 ◼   ► taken to account this thing could break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7578">TS</a>]

02:06:20 ◼   ► like every time something goes wrong it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:22 ◼   ► could be a thing that is like not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7582">TS</a>]

02:06:23 ◼   ► easy replaces around even if the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7583">TS</a>]

02:06:25 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure to keep showing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR-cXV4/7585">TS</a>]

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