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previously on cortex what I did and when
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I was kind of alluding to is this thing
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where i have spent a very significant
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part of January breaking down the
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entirety of how do i work what are my
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systems around work how do i use task
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management how do i organized notes
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breaking down absolutely everything to
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nothing and starting over
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you've got the voice for that that was
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really good
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should look into that I swear to God I
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would do voiceover work if I could do i
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really would seem that seems great shall
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I try as well yeah you go ahead
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previously on cortex I should maybe try
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it with the American accent I think it
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works back with the American accent
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right can you do with an American accent
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so shall i say let's see what happens
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previously on cortex know those terrible
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American successful previously on cortex
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this is getting worse
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you need to abort Mike I just end up
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just moving further and further south
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down my American accent attempt yeah
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your first go was the best and the
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Alaska was the worst alright well at
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least we know the two of us who do the
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voice of work when it's time for the
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movie so yeah last time you spoke a
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little bit about the fact that you had
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decided to go bare bones with your task
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management break everything down go to a
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new unmentioned location somewhere in
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england i suppose and all my other node
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maybe went to the continent who knows i
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was in an undisclosed location in
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finnish scandia that my wife sent me too
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because you because you were she knows
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me she knows me very well
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hey yeah it was like hey buddy it's time
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to start making some money again need to
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get out of the house and you need to
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so you you were flown off to a faraway
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land and you you broke everything down
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and you start it over for your review at
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the year and you did it on pen and paper
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which is which is very different to that
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to the usual great way right of ipads
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and and and the like you know that we
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believe in you decided to break it all
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down and I wanted to kind of touch on
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this a little bit when did you first
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realize that pen and paper was a good
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system to kind of do a a retooling of
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your task management
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okay Mike we need to we need to rewind
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all the way back to a childhood gray
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home little gray from a long time ago my
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father is a lawyer and he's always had
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around the house
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these legal pads ever since I was a
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little kid and they have always been a
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thing that i would like sketch on and
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and right on and always felt like it
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like an external thinking tool like how
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do i think i need to write something
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down ever since I was a little kid this
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is always a thing that I have done and
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throughout my life as I have
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transitioned from various tools and
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different ways of working i have always
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been aware that there is something that
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is just different about paper that is
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really helpful in some scenarios and
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when I was a teacher i ran my whole
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system entirely on paper because i found
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that that was actually the best tool to
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solve the problem that i was trying to
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solve at that time
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and if for some reason I went back to
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being a teacher I would almost certainly
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do the same thing again that I would run
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that system on paper because there are
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cases where paper is just better like
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having a clipboard with a bunch of
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sheets arranged in a particular way
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sometimes you're never going to beat
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that like not even with an ipad but but
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more importantly that there's two things
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that I did at the beginning of the years
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is breaking down the organization system
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and doing the review these are slightly
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different tasks so in doing a big review
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when I say here that i am using paper
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that is paper in quotation marks because
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i was actually using good notes on my
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ipad with paper templates so i actually
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worked with Frank a designer that you
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have worked with for relaying who is
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fantastic and i knew i was going to be
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doing just a ton of this like thinking
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work for my seasonal review and so I
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message Frank and I asked him to create
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for me a whole bunch of templates that
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were legal pad papers so I had him
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essentially recreate from my childhood
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all over the possible paper templates a
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man could want and was like listen buddy
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i'm going to be doing a bunch of writing
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and a bunch of thinking I'm gonna need
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some graph papers i'm going to need some
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yellow legal paper i'm gonna need wide
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line i'm going to need narrow line i'm
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going to need them in blue and green and
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pink and he ended up creating for me
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just a fantastic set of these papers
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even added in a very extremely subtle
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soft paper texture which was really nice
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he's a professional inna it is he's very
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professional these things were just
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great and this is a case where for
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thinking about stuff paper i find this
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useful tool that's hard to in some sense
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it's hard to say what's going on but it
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allow it allows me to kind of like right
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out and sketch out some ideas
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you have this this free form this too is
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like you're not constrained into a
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particular application and so when I was
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doing a bunch of reviews and thinking
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about my workflow it was really much of
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a process of like I'm just gonna sit
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here in this undisclosed location in
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Scandia and i'm going to have this
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digital paper in front of me
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alright so okay you lost me just a touch
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here huh
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there was never actual paper know we'll
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get to the real paper Mike don't worry
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there's a paper we're going to get to
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that end it right good but i just wanna
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I want to specify like there's two
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different things here
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ok so I'm sitting down with the digital
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paper and just kind of writing out and
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going through the seasonal review as
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soon as one of you has like a bunch of
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questions that I sort of asked myself
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and things I'm thinking about but I do
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really like having the digital paper for
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this stuff because i do like to keep a
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record of the previous reviews that I
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have done and so I want to be able to
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kind of sometimes go back and see like
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whatever I looked at in the past like
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what has been on my mind so I do like to
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have a record of this stuff and there's
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an enormous amount of like sketching and
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other things that I'm doing that help
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with thinking through things so
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something else that I did was like I I
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by hand recreated a little overview
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calendar for the entire year and i was
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using that to roughly plan out like when
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are things going to happen in the year
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what are their periods of the year where
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I'm going to be busy what are the
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periods where I'm not going to be busy
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and this is a case where like doing it
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by hand
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even though in in some ways like well
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that's ridiculous you could download a
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PDF that would have an overview calendar
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for the year and just feeling like yes
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that's true but there's something about
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doing it this way that is intentional
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that it it it slows you down and it
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focuses your mind very clearly on the
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task at hand so I i find this just a
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ridiculously useful and very valuable
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process to kind of like rethink
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absolutely everything about what i am
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doing and in the process of doing this I
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realized that I wanted to rework my
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entire organization system which brings
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us to the actual physical paper Mike are
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you happy we get to the real paper at
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this point I am very happy but there's
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something I want to go back to ok
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tumbling across I want to redo my entire
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organizational system is quite a
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revelation to have I just I feel like I
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just have to point to that like how do
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you get there
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well like that's not your
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run-of-the-mill everyday kind of thought
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which is like I want to redo everything
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especially as someone you really pay a
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lot of attention to this this is
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something you've filled around with for
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an amount of time and come to a place
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where you'd stuck to write so you know
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over the show we spoke about you move
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into to do moving away from the focus
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back to only focus because it gave you
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what you needed with the right
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trade-offs and and that was where you'd
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stayed and it really sounded like it
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I'm there I'm in it GTD forever
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I think they're there is an undercurrent
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of GTD not working that great for me in
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the show when I do talk about it
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sometimes
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yep like this this to me fits into this
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question of though I didn't have the
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word for it at the time the year of
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redirection mm and so what's occurring
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here is as i was doing this big review
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as i was spending a bunch of time
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concertedly focusing on on how do i work
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i was just thinking of a lot of the ways
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that in the previous year i had had
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frustrations or difficulties or like a
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lack of smoothness in a bunch of the
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ways that i work and the thing that I
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was thinking about I decided okay I'm
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going to start over and build up it is
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like I'm still in this process now I
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don't have a definitive answer for like
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what have I built up to i'm still very
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much in in the middle of thinking about
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all of this and working on this but it
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doesn't necessarily mean
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that I'm building up to something that
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is entirely new and different from
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whatever it is that I used before
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it's like we mentioned last time when we
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were discussing talking with another
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person forces you to think about your
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reasons for why are you doing a thing
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and starting over with
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like how am I going to arrange my work
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this this is a way of like oh I've built
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up this castle but let me let me take it
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apart and let me examine all of the
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individual bricks and then say like is
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this is this brick should this brick be
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should this thing be replaced as we're
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building up to some kind of structure
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that we're going to live in
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let's re-examine the decisions that we
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and i know for a fact some of these
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things are built on foundations that are
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years old at this point it's like do
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these assumptions still hold true is
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this still the best way to work for me
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maybe maybe not so that so that's what
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this like rebuilding the system is it's
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a it's a way to force re-evaluation of
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all of the parts
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yeah it's not something that I want to
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do very often
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hi it's been a long long time since I've
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done something this extreme so yeah it's
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it's just that that's what's occurring
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here this episode of cortex is brought
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to you by Ministry of supply whatever it
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is you have to wear to work
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it almost certainly is not exactly
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something that you would want to wear
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enter ministry of supply they make
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this is what a clothing company should
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clothing that actually is comfortable
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teacher you can bet I'd be wearing a
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a teacher and the thing that I really
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they keep you nice and cool their men's
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sweat and absorbs odor ministry of
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first purchase thanks to Ministry of
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supply for keeping me cool and thanks
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for supporting the show now let's talk
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about the paper okay of course in right
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now he's obsessed with the paper Mike
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you're obsessed with the paper i'm not
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even gonna ask you what pen and paper
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using like physical stuff so I know it's
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only going to upset me i couldn't even
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tell you what i was using this is why I
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didn't want to ask because I think you
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need to say that will you tell me
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something that would just make me sad
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like Oh what was in the hotel like I
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don't worry about that is the and we
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went on a quest i gave you pens you know
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yeah but it's like dude was in some
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other location you know as user was
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working with the tools that were
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available to me at the time it was fine
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you just pick up the ipad that was there
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as well right
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whatever ipad they had laying around
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now however I brought my ipad pro with
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me and then was working on those
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beautiful templates that Frank me but
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now for the actual physical paper i used
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i used what was available to me like I
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couldn't even tell you what it was
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besides it was a pen and they were index
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cards and pieces of paper
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ok I'm sorry I'm sorry okay its okay its
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okay i don't wanna talk about it okay
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that's fine let's just move on from that
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I want to go brother
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so what what point this actual paper
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have to come into this you've clearly
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gotten to a point where like I know what
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to do i'll get this digital paper that
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will be better but then you still ended
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up coming back to physical pen and paper
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ok so again that the digital paper is
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about the overall review and the Fate
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one thing that falls out of this is
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rework the organization system as as
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part of this process like this many
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other things that fall out of the
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overall review but this is just one of
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those things now why am I using actual
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physical paper to try to rework the
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system it's because just like just like
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the digital paper kind of frees you from
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a bunch of the constraints that you can
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sort of do whatever you want with it
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when i'm working with physical paper
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it's a similar thing of like I'm trying
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to write down what like what are the
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things that are on my mind like what are
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the things that I'm trying to work
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towards and what I ended up doing is
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pieces of paper and just sort of like
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what I'm trying to do is put the work in
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front of me so that i can see it all
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right that I can like look at everything
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all at once and think about how do I
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want to arrange this kind of thing and
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though I am a man with many ipads there
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are not enough iPads in the world and
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it's not convenient enough to be able to
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have like a table where there's seven
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iPads in front of me where i've written
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a bunch of things like with actual paper
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you can really spread out and then try
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to move things around like organize
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stuff and so does this go over here it
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so it's a way of thinking visually and
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and thinking physical
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like rearranging items and and and
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moving things so this is a huge
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advantage of using actual physical paper
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for for this kind of thing I also think
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it's a big advantage that if you don't
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know what it is that you want to do you
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can't answer the question what tool is
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best for accomplishing this task and so
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many of the times when we have discussed
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in the past task managers or similar
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tools it becomes very much a question of
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like what are the features of this task
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manager
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what can it do versus what other task
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managers can do you know the joy of
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switching from one task manager to
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another is really a process of learning
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how the programmers of the task manager
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want you to arrange all of your things
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yep and like anytime you use any task
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manager doesn't matter what it is
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doesn't matter how fantastic it is there
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is some process of you need to mold your
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mind to the way the programmer thinks it
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is sensible to organize information is
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this is fundamentally unavoidable and
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that is also i always say that there is
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an infinite market for task managers
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because everybody thinks in a slightly
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different way and everybody wants a
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slightly different set of features and
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the market can always accept another
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task manager for whom sums portion of
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the audience will say oh that is perfect
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for me it does this one thing in this
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way that is just right for my brain so
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putting all of the work on paper is it
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is a way to avoid that it's a way to try
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to think about how to organize stuff
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without feeling constrained by things
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like who does this task manager support
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start dates
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how does this thing handle recurring
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items it's like that that's down in the
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weeds that's down in the details and i'm
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trying to think about it from a much
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higher level of like what is the thing
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that I'm working on what am I trying to
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achieve here so i'll just say at this
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point that i am into doest now which is
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something i've been talking about for
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far too long
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mmm the process of moving the tasks was
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horrific
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I i can only imagine because it has to
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be done manually of course and there are
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things that I like about it and there
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are things that I don't like about it
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who one of my biggest things i don't
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like is exactly that around something
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like recurring tasks who has the
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functionality for them but doesn't
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really have the UI for it
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who you have to write it in in the
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language of the understands that I've
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seen that there are nuances to that
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language and everyone that I speak to
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that users to do this like once you
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learn the language you're good which I
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totally appreciate and it is that
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language that i think will be the
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ultimate reason I stick with two doest
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because the idea of natural language
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processing off not necessary natural
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language but being able to speak to the
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application is valuable for me it's why
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i don't imagine ever moving away from
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fantastic hell because I know how to
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type into fantastical the appointment
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right right and i love that and to do is
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has that feature i'm still getting my
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head around it but it is I think what
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will keep me there because i am able to
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talk to doest and say to it i want to
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set this task at this date and I'm now
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using projects which have never used
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before because it's really easy to add
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those because you just type them in blue
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so in a way to try and see if
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categorizing this and honestly I think
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the time tracking has helped me think
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about projects in my to do
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hmm and I'm trying to match those up and
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seeing what that looks like a giving
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things the same kind of names who I
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don't know what that's going to result
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in yet but I feel like that there could
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be something there that helps me kind of
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compartmentalize my work a little better
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i'm still playing around with the
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automation I've signed up for a peer
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them what I want to come back to that at
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some point in the future
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yeah that's a big thing that's a whole
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thing but as a peer is a service like if
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this then that which allows you to
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connect web services together as a peer
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is very powerful and a lot more powerful
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than its system that more complicated
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but more powerful and can do some
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interesting things so I'm plotting still
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playing around all of that and trying to
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work out how to do is scan and and
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moving to google calendar and all of
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that stuff that stuff is all still a
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play on a general day today so I i have
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been running on the focus and to do it
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in parallel to make sure that they're
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working the way that I expect a huge
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thing to do that is a fun phase in any
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transition like this is all the kind of
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stuff I'm trying to avoid with paper
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it's like Jesus Christ I don't want to
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think about this but that it that is a
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horrible phase where you're running to
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task managers because you want to make
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sure that the one isn't missing things
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that is still in the other one because
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here's the thing i have an incredible
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level of crosstown OmniFocus student to
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do this has to win my trust
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oh yeah of course right and and just in
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you know like even in the adding of
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tasks can be like has it really set that
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to bring do it is like I've asked it to
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do this every second Tuesday doesn't
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understand what that is and like when
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adding the tasks i was checking them off
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and see and what day it will come up
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next and blue so i'm i'm still in that
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process and it's a disgusting process to
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be in but it's kind of just the way that
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these things have to go because
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unfortunately there is no share i really
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wish that a protocol like email existed
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for tasks
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yeah keep dreaming buddy it's never
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sponsorship so Stephen set this up and i
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to do and when they might do them and if
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it's the right person and all that sort
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travel expert and I thought you might
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have like a passing familiarity with it
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was like oh Trello i have 20 of them
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under playing around with it but yes
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with because not entirely but it does
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yeah like there is an external process
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system that it is that way but they may
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really FM it is that time again cgpgrey
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ass cortex return to our audience of
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last week our sleep schedules like do
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what are those times why those times and
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what effect of this have on your
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productivity when you're observing them
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where you live on east coast time dr.
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really turned out to be that way hm i go
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those times not match up in the way that
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you're going for here yeah i went to bed
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expressed to you the last time that we
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met up that I'm becoming more interested
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in sleep tracking as well and this is
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something that is on my radar to try and
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find the tool or tools that work for me
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to allow me to do this because I don't
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know what effects it has on my
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productivity honestly who because my
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how inspired was I that day because I
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other thing which is really difficult to
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turn and nail down but there is an
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inverse that I'm interested in which is
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interested in learning right now I
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recommend to you an app which is called
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been using to track my sleeping
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time-based just like the time tracker
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toggle from the recommendation of
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Federico teecee out of your where Mike
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things happy I live a lot of my life
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only thing I care about really which is
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what it does is it does a pretty good
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job of estimating just the length that i
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was asleep when did i go to bed and when
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did I wake up and I i want to track this
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sleep tracking but that suffered from
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the effect of I needed to turn it on
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before I went to sleep and turn it off
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when I woke up in the morning and here
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is the thing that I definitely know from
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looking at that sleep data is when I
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need the sleep data the least is what
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I'm able to record it the most so he's
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like I am a bang on my schedule
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everything's going great and waking up
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at the exact same time ever
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morning i'm having a nice productive day
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i'm going to sleep around the same time
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like perfect rock-solid everyday is the
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same data and then they'll be periods
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where there's like there's no sleep data
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recorder whatsoever is like but that's
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what i want to sleep data the most
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where my sleep is less regular I'm like
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staying up later which is terrible for
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me and then i'm sleepy and I forget to
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turn the app on and then i'm not paying
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any attention to when I wake up in the
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morning like this inverse correlation
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past year but all indicates to me is
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like there's some gaps which were
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probably not great times and so I really
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just doesn't automatically so I can keep
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an eye on this kind of stuff
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productive i am and like if I fall out
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rebooting and and like getting back into
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cycle and that that has a huge effect on
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ideal times
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asleep by ten o'clock
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read a book i'm just gonna fall asleep
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immediately which is also why i'm i'm a
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terrible dinner companion because people
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eight like oh like eight o'clock at
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night at night like you gotta get over
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to the early bird special
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ya think we can do yeah exactly you know
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I like I want to meet you in the
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afternoon
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you know Mike if we ever socialize like
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when do we socialize 2 p.m. in the
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afternoon talking about that's what it's
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great as my perfect time like
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everything's going great I've done all
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my work in the morning and now you get
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me for the afternoon time when i'm not
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going to get any work done anyway it's
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nice and early like that's what I want
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to socialize with people to p.m. and
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nobody else in the world wants to
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socialize at that time but but you know
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from for me that that's a bigger thing
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like maintaining the regular sleep
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schedule it's a big deal and I have
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found that earlier is definitely better
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by like a huge order of magnitude in
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terms of actual productivity previously
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on the show I recommended the retro 51
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tornado as a pen
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now this is your pen thing okay Brian's
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were in to ask what is the fountain pen
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equivalent of this is not this is the
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panicked all of a sudden what happened
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one in for me you know this is just for
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my enjoyment right now so brian and i
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would recommend the pen that you have
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using and this is part of the reason you
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want to do this is about your partner
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gift i would recommend the bank with the
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pilot metropolitan because it is a cheap
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an independent and it works great but if
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you want to go a little bit more than
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this i would recommend for you at which
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be eco lose our next move up i will put
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good cuz i also this is a pendant thank
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you this is a pen that takes think like
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you need a bottle of ink for this and i
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that I think what really well of this it
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is called the pilot 0 shizuka new line
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of inks today we'll all be in the
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shadows and i will recommend
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if you have any care at all for pens
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don't just use whatever pens they have
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in the hotel down Mike does not approve
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you deserve better listener but really
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do our elven asked what did you both
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want to be when you grew up where you
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want to be a professional podcaster
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right Mike only from the age of like 20
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21 may be okay if I had dreams as a kid
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you know what were your dreams like so I
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wanted to be a few different things i
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did actually want to be a radio DJ so
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okay so essentially a podcaster yeah but
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that was when I was when I was really
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young and then as I grew up a little bit
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there were two two things that I really
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wanted to be one of them was a teacher
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special needs was the thing that I was
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very interested in was a young man I
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could see that I could see that it was
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something that i was i was very
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passionate about but then kind of moved
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away from as I got older just because I
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also became quite career minded and it
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seems like at least in teaching the
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you're quite boxed in to the amount of
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movement that you can take an
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advancement that you can take there are
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a lot of paths it seems
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yeah that is that is definitely correct
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grew up that I needed to be challenged
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challenges before I then had to to be
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something that maybe I wasn't interested
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in being which was like a headmaster
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yeah this is actually a perennial
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problem at a bunch of schools is is
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retaining ambitious talents precisely
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because of that it's a good a very
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narrow pyramid to climb in only one
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direction and and very often people
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don't want to climb in that direction
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but they they want to continue advancing
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a career problem that some teachers do
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run up against then I wanted to be a
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police officer that I cannot see thumbs
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down 90 degree and this was the job that
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sure i wanted to until maybe I was like
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17 it was something that I really wanted
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to do and it wasn't that I wanted to be
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a beat cop patrolling the streets of
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London but with you really club I wanted
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to be a detective
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that's that's what i wanted to be that
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was something and it's still something
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I'm very interested in how I've I wanted
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to be a detective I wanted to solve
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crimes who I cannot that's my eclectic
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list all that job now i am not physical
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enough to be a police officer this was
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what I realized in my life is that there
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is a lot of it that I wouldn't be good
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at so i didn't but did not pursue it
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I'm not tough enough basically
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I'm not tough enough basically
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I think you're doing a better job as a
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professional podcaster then you would do
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is a police officer just going to put
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that out there
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thank you so much did you want to be
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when you grow up
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I mean I love when people ask this kind
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of thing at I feel like what is what
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this question is asking is what did the
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dumb kid version of you want to do right
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little patience for most of this kind of
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stuff like when I was a kid I had all
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sorts of dumb ideas about things that I
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wanted to do but it's because you as a
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kid like you don't know anything about
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the working world you know any even even
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here like into the teenage years I think
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the same thing it's like Oh Mikey want
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to be a police officer but like you
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haven't caught anything at all about
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what being a police officer really
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entails wanted to drive cause really
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fast track right like this is this is
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this is like your idea when you're
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younger about what the working world is
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like and and so yeah there's a bunch of
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stuff that like my parents tell me that
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younger me was interested in doing when
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he grew up but I feel like I really care
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what that kid thought about anything he
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didn't know anything about anything but
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what do you want to do though
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come on just like it's like my parents
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like it at some point be a
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paleontologist right is like because
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like dinosaurs and I haven't bought
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anything at all about what being a
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paleontologist is like oh you ride
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dinosaur skeletons all day surely being
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a paleontologist it like now you're
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outside in the hot Sun moving a
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toothbrush / a bone for hours if you're
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lucky right has I'll now it's a terrible
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it's a terrible thing I i think the
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first serious career that I had a
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somewhat reasonable idea about which is
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the same reason that I didn't go into it
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was that when i was in college i was
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really aiming towards being a college
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physics professor mhm i thought like
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this is a thing that I really want to do
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and over the course of being at college
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was a process of coming to the
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conclusion that like this is not a job
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that I would really want to do there are
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parts of it that I would really want to
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do like driving a fast car but the
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actual miss of becoming a
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a physics professor I realize like
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across every front is like this is no
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like this does not match up with me I
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it's like realizing that I am neither
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smart nor patient enough to do a PhD
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program it's like there's no way this is
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going to happen I will lose my mind if I
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have to do this
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realizing i did I ran at some point I
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ran some numbers on like how many PhD
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tenure-track positions are there in the
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United States every year versus how many
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physics graduates are that is like whoa
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these are terrible numbers and just
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realizing like a bunch of things about
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myself as well like I just don't have
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the temperament to focus on a single
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task for three to six years so all of
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this is what like turned me away from
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what I would say was the first seriously
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considered maybe actually possible thing
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that a younger version of me would have
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wanted to do when he grew up almost
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wants to know do you ever get a VR
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headset now I got a playstation vr
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headset know you really liked it a lot
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I know you do there are some good games
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there's not enough good games i'm hoping
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for more games in 2017 i have cast and I
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towards oculus a couple of times just
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looked looked over in that direction
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uh-huh to go the next level but i have
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not yet gone to it there there's some
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stuff this year that i am finding
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interesting like there are some smaller
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computers and some purpose built
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computers that I've seen like there's
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some CSS that I've just keeping my eye
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on there is also like word of oculus
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trying to create their own all-in-one
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unit who same she's doing the same also
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microsoft later this year will be
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showing off their next Xbox which in
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they've said we'll have the our
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capabilities microsoft had a good
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partnership with oculus I'm wondering if
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that's where we're going to go down and
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will they be able to support pc games
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there this is a there is i expect by the
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end of this year that i will have some
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other equipment in my house because you
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can never have enough never enough
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immersion vr what did you buy
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ok like i have bought nothing because i
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think i need a new house before I can
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get a VR pets yeah this is the problem
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this is a problem if you really want the
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big the big equipment it is difficult i
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have used HTC vive I have not spoken
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about this on the show who and I think
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that it's a great system but some of the
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things that are good about things that I
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don't like about it and i like that you
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can move around but every now now bump
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into something and then that ruins the
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experience so I trip over the cable and
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that bruise the experience so it's a
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great system but I don't like it so much
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and also what everybody said that they
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loved with the controllers but those
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controllers and not as good as the
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oculus touch controllers and we had used
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those a long time before they came out
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like six or seven months so we were
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starting i think at a better level and I
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find the oculus touch controls to be
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vastly superior to HTC's just in the way
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that they feel and the way you use them
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so I still maintain that my favorite
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system i have used is the oculus yeah i
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mean if this is the problem I I have
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this feeling of like go big or go home
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with VR and that there are some vr
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options but I just I feel like that
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oculus experience was just so good that
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I either want to wait for other systems
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to catch up to that or I want to
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replicate that and if I'm trying to
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replicate it at the very least it's like
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me know that this this plant that I'm
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living in London is that there is no
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there is no place for this and it
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requires a rethinking of everything in
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like our room which is the kitchen and
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also the living room as like where would
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this go this would go nowhere so I i do
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keep piling up a list of reasons why my
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wife and I maybe should move and on that
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list of reasons i would have space for
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mint is probably the least convincing
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item that is on there for her but I feel
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like it is it is very convincing for me
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you need a mega office man wait a minute
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I'm going to disagree with you on that
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actually because I don't think you
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should have your VR headset in your mega
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office I think you need you need clean
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distinct different contacts no for
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working at games a part of my work gray
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that is why you should not tell yourself
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that i have a video game podcast i have
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yeah yeah yeah I know Mike but I feel
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like that come at me that video game
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podcast exists to support this idea
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mega office serves two main roles in
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this home it is one where Mike can do
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work and to where Mike can put all of
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the stuff that shouldn't be in the rest
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of the house and this just becomes
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myspace i have a sofa so far is
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perfectly positioned in front of the TV
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mhm problem that works for you but the
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the whole reason that I have an office
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that is outside of the house is I I know
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I can't work like that like I'm i need
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the different environments to be as
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clean and as clear as possible so that
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you can keep the outside of the house
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office but then also have the inside of
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the house office which has the VR
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equipment that's not gonna happen like
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it's not gonna happen
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this is a life hack my friend notice
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terrible idea
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cic 128 wants to know if i skip a you
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too bad do you get anything for it
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I don't know the houses for this oh
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really you don't know the answer you as
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a as a YouTube creator you don't know
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expects a percentage probably right yeah
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and whatever it is is like you know they
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take fifty percent of the ad revenue if
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all there's there's something in that
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lower boundary where there's like a
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small amount that is taken but if you if
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its count as a as an unwatched add in
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the system so you don't get any money
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thing recently which i think is kind of
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oh yeah i haven't actually noticed that
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you have noticed from a few like Eva
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it's a company that is just their entire
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you too bad it's like five seconds long
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blue and there's nothing they just
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carried there's no skipping it's just a
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five-second at though it's within the
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realms of what people expect I've also
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see a company to a five-second dad and
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five-second dad is is there to try and
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entice you
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with it and I've been i watch more of
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those out honestly because they grabbed
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me and i watch the thing if you are a
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company that makes ads there you go you
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want my own money and say you get it
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five-second ads thomas wants to know
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what is gray spreadsheet program of
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choice and why
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oh and i use apples numbers actually in
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theory i should be using Excel long long
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time ago i actually had a job that was
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essentially just using Excel
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professionally in a way
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excel is vastly more powerful it can do
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a lot more but for the spreadsheets that
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i use now i use numbers because of two
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things the first is it does just look
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nicer it takes a lot less effort to make
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a numbers spreadsheet
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look nicer and the second thing which I
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really love and I can't believe excel
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hasn't copied in some way is the way
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that numbers allows you to have you
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don't have to be working with a single
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infinite grid in all directions you can
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just drop down a little mini grid and
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move it around so it is like you're
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working on a blank piece of paper and
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you can have like multiple grids all
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over the place and like different
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yeah it's interesting yes and and that
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allowing you to rearrange things i find
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hugely helpful for the source of
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spreadsheets that I want to create well
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have a bunch of I'm like it's not
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programming or anything but it's it's
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like all have a spreadsheet where I want
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to just put in some inputs and then get
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the output is displayed in some
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different way as like yeah I could do
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this with excel and and you sort of fake
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it with hiding some of the cells but
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it's just much nicer and much easier and
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faster to get a good-looking if you can
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just drop down a little table and say I
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wanted to go exactly here and then maybe
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I rearranged it later go out an output
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over there it's better in this spot i
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just really like I really like numbers
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for that and it's a feature that I use a
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lot like a ton of my spreadsheets are a
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very large number of individual tables
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that I'm putting data into and and
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rearranging in a way that I could do it
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with excel but it would be more of a
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pain in the butt to do with excel even
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if it is the more powerful tool and it
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definitely is the thing that I run into
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often ish enough that there's something
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I would like to do that would be trivial
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to do in Excel which number is just
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simply can't but I'm willing to take
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that that trade-off for the way that it
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it looks and the way it's easily
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rearrange able dylan wants to know now
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the editorial has been updated for the
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moved away to applications like one
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writer or bear and if so would we move
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back so i have posted we moved all of my
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writing of this kind to the ios app bear
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i think that is really nice and it works
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very well for me for writing what I
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writing in which tends to just be
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copy far and i write them bear i'm not
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going to be switching back to a tutorial
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for for my work there purely because i
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am concerned at the rate of advancement
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of the application and I was on the beta
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but it took very very very long time for
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that to come out of beta for this
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version so i am i'm gonna stick with
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that for the time being
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yeah editorial was my primary app for a
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very long time for doing the writing and
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for the video scripts and for some other
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things that i right
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i'm now using Ulysses as the primary app
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which what we've talked about very much
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at all not but Ulysses has some features
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that i really really like is one of
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those apps that it's like I played
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around with it for a little bit and it
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it takes awhile to like change your mind
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a little bit to take full advantage of
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the way that this can work and I have to
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say like the the rules for rulers videos
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that i did those relied very heavily on
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some of the features that Ulysses has
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where if you're working with it the way
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it wants you to work you can rearrange
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sections quite easily you can see little
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like the outline of what it is that
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you're working on the side and move
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sections up and down and I was doing
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that constantly on the on those videos
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and that is a kind of feature that I
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have a very hard time now imagining
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using any kind of writing app that
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doesn't have some ability to do this to
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to replicate information on the side and
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a quick ability to rearrange the
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sections so that is become just an
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absolute vital feature and editorial
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doesn't have that and there's also some
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stuff with Ulysses because it's working
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in dropbox there's some fancy stuff i
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don't really need to get into right now
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but in the way that my assistant can
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also have access to a subset of the
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things that i'm working on on Ulysses on
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her end through dropbox and everything
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like sinks in a really nice way but she
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doesn't have to have access to
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everything that I'm working on it like
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there's a nice things that I can do with
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app so that's why it has taken the
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primary place as the fact that i'm
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working in and for everything else
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i'm also using bear as a kind of scratch
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pad or list maker or just for various
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miscellaneous things I have to say I'm
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really impressed with that app I really
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like some of the color schemes in the
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way they arrange things so that those
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are the two apps that are my primary
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writing two apps at this point Adrienne
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would like to know how your betrayal of
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the macbook adorable has been going
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didn't betray anything and was the touch
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bar really worth this betrayal but no it
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betrayed me
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it went up a little puff of smoke mm-hmm
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I feel like this is more question if I
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betrayed you is what's really coming out
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what everything working out in this
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there was a betrayal and has it with a
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few is it been worth it for you do you
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use that computer
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yeah i do use that computer it is useful
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for exactly the purpose that I intended
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it which is for occasional mobile
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podcast recording and or editing and so
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was the macbook now what you're asking
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me if I'm using it for these things like
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yes I use it for that i do have to say i
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really i really really like the
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second-generation butterflying keys i
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was always a defender of the adorable
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keyboard i think people didn't use it
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long enough to get used to it and i
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really liked it but the
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second-generation keyboard is way better
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and I however i really hope that Apple
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at some point updates their magic
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keyboard to use the same switches okay i
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think they're fantastic
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don't say that i left why why because
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test people have lots of opinions about
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the keyboards and I don't think people
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would would would like to hana no I am
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NOT interested in what they would like
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these two sides of Apple here which are
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probably warring with each other which
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is the efficiencies of scale versus boy
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we sure don't want to retool any of our
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equipment i think that's that's the
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battle that would be taking place over
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what is the next generation of the magic
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keyboard
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but but i would love them too i would
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love them to go with the efficiencies of
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scale argument on that I have that I
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really like it
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as for the touch bar the lack of escape
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button is not really any problem i find
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i hit that corner really easily every
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time I want to hit the escape button I
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it doesn't bother me that there's not a
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physical button there i was expecting
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that to be a problem but it isn't as for
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the actual touch bar i feel like i still
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need to be convinced by some software
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implementation that this is a useful
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feature it's funny because I actually
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strikes me as like the reverse of a pro
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feature but whenever I pay attention to
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it it really feels like this is actually
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a feature for newbies where it's it's
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trying to show to you and reveal to you
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aspects of the program that you might
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not be aware of and I feel like for
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almost anything that the touch bar is
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showing me there's a keyboard command
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that I already know that i'm going to
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use or the additional information that
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it shows is not really helpful
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it's just kind of flashy and show off e
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so I actually think that the touch bar
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is a great feature for someone new to
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the mac like it's not directed at first
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it would be but I'm i don't i don't
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think the way they sold it as like oh
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this is an amazing pro feature like I
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haven't seen that materialized on on my
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own so that's that's been my experience
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with the touch bar so far
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silence sense of betrayal yep carrie
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wants to know what is your opinion on
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the Amazon echo I know you love the
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Amazon echo uh-huh i have seen in person
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demonstrations of the Amazon echo which
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are very impressive about how it can
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hear you and the commands that everybody
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do I have some some resistance to
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setting up a thing that is in another
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ecosystem and if I feel less convinced
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by the utility of it for me personally
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like I just I don't like talking to
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devices if I can a guy like when I'm
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controlling the lights in my house
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sure I can talk to Siri to do that but
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I'm much I much prefer pressing a button
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and just doing it that way so I a lot of
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the Amazon echo stuff is a gag i can see
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that that would be useful but i always
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feel like I have some kind of mental
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resistance to talking as a form of
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computer interface it's it's not it's
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not my go-to uh how do you turn your
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lights on enough because you have to
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hear lights right yeah he lights so what
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was your interface for interactivity
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lights so the the hue lights are
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connected into the Apple home system
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yep so that means on on any of the ipads
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to toggle the presets that i have so i
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thought you know i haven't had a whole
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bunch but there's like six buttons for
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the various ways that I want most of the
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ok or the thing that happens really
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often as i have it depending on the
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watch face i'm using either have the
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home button on my watch face or it's
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always in the dock of my watch and so
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that's the other way that I'll adjust
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the lights is by doing that and they I i
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know that under this circumstance it
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would often be faster and easier to be
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able to just speak out loud to the
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elected to ask it to change the lights
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instead but it still doesn't get over
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this this like mental resistance that I
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feel to talking out loud to a computer
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guy i will always prefer the silent
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interface if it's an option and I feel
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like voice commands for me RA
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a mental last resort
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ok that's interesting because I'm
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definitely the reverse for my hue lights
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he and and this the same for dinner as
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well we just walk around the house and
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ask for the lights to be time on the
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rooms were going into I mean to be fair
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my wife would probably greatly
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appreciate if I could set up a lot but
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because she is obviously referring voice
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interface and she tries to talk to Siri
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to change the lights which I can only
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describe as a perpetual exercise in
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frustration right see this is the thing
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with the echo it is a surprise if it
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doesn't want
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yeah and with Siri i have found it to be
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the inverse yeah
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Cirie is terrible at this kind of stuff
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maybe you should just get one but i have
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no use for it and that's how i would be
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the person setting it up really not hard
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to set up i'm really trying mostly to
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convince her to use the silent interface
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instead just press the button it works
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when you press the button every time but
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i think this is also just a general
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problem with with Siri if just just the
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other day I heard this thing which would
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purchase it was so frustrating to listen
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to but my wife was in the shower and she
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was trying to ask Siri to record a
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reminder for later and the site
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serie could he likes it could be here
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like hey Siri and then the phone would
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wake up and she would try to talk to it
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and it would and I must have her try to
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do this thing 10 times as like I
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couldn't bear to hear it anymore like I
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just had to go and like I let me just
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type it in for you like I'm so sorry
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that you've had this experience with
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Siri trying to listen to you lates
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I understand you're in this like you're
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in the shower is it's trying to hear you
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over water is not an optimal situation
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but it was a thing that i was thinking
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like I'm pretty sure Amazon echo would
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get this no problem
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it depends it depends like so we have
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our echo in our kitchen and if we have
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the extract to fan going for blast
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it can take a couple of tries to get it
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to hear you who but once it's heard the
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wake word it does a pretty good job but
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sometimes you have to really give it a
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shout to get it to wake up who food
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there is that there is a problem that
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all of these machines have white noise
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but i will say that that the echo is the
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best that i found primarily because it
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is a canister full of microphones
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yeah right so that's why it does a
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better job but it it can still struggle
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but i would say that probably would do a
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better job in that scenario than Syria
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would have honestly
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let's just say there was definitely some
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shouting it's eerie yeah yeah they're
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there is some shouting to be hat but you
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know i will say that i have been in the
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office and i have heard cause words set
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towards the echo in the kitchen making
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me it happens and I do it do it happens
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