00:00:01 ◼ ► picked up my iphone 5s had an outfit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► overcast testing this steak is a waffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► time it's so good like you tried tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/8">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► you're like someone who were trying not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► to mention it but whatever the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► thing that you know it's like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► oh god oh god no I mean yeah it's a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► of thing like i was doing some testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► if you did a few days ago and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► i just picked him out move it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► ways we could put the show and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► feels so good when i pick it up and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► man I'm it looks so good I wish phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/37">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► could still look that good and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► actually use it to do my tests I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► like man this is such a toy this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► social offices but I've actually I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► honestly been thinking like okay so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► my phone is continuing to not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► make phone calls reliably this it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► both mine and tips iphone sevens have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► been very frequently exhibited the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► same problem of the microphone cuts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► during phone call so that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/68">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► person can't hear us for like 10 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► or four consecutive at a time often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► resulting in them saying hello until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► hang-ups it and were screaming we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► here we're here we're here and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► usually doesn't recover and it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► know you say you might think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► oh I never never take phone calls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► know I use apps on my phone time you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► be surprised how many times a phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► become something important even in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► lifestyle like this simple things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► when your credit card gets flagged for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► fraud and you have to call them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/102">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► explain it and they hang up on you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► the middle because they say I'm sorry it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/106">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► seems like no one here anymore we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► to hang up anyway so I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/109">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► boom but I don't know I i just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► walking because like the camera on it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► so good even though it's not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► a little light but I don't know I i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► my phone so much and so often i wish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► screen was bigger but when i do have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► I'm just like oh this is so unwieldy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► my hand I hate holding it I like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► it's easy and anyway that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► current waffle but it's not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► serious waffle yet maybe Michael work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► me for a couple of weeks and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► but probably not probably just wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► the next one can we not put this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► show because i want to hear Mike slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/151">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► after after it's inevitably released and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► also I take issue with something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► said a minute ago the 5s unquestionably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/159">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► oh my god it feels so good in the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► but I actually stand by my earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► assessment that this iphone 7 matte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/169">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► unquestionably slippier than the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► slippery soap that you've ever held it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► is aesthetically my favorite iphone have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► ever used which is unfortunate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► it is like holding a bar of soap but god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► I think this thing is beautiful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/189">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► doesn't mean you have to agree but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► is my favorite phone of all the iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► I've owned purely visually the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► phone sighs thing the air pods are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► giving me a a little bit of relief from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► the excessive size of the six side which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► is only size of what i have but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► obviously bigger than the plus R naught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► plus the the ipod touches i used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► remember i said when i first got the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► pods that the clicker thing on my wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► headphones was beating them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► kitchen while the airports have made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► comeback because they allow me to put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/221">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► and not have it in my pocket wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► think it would make a difference when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► I'm going around the kitchen and cooking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► but when you're cooking in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► occasional you have to bend down to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► whatever and no matter which pocket I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► put my phone in it's just big enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► be uncomfortable when I bend down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► feel like I'm either bending my phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► it's just you know I don't know just but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► nice not to have it there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► anyway I feel better life for my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► down you know on a side table in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/250">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► other room and then just walk around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► kitchen with my airports are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► hey goes to show that I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► trade down this for the smaller size no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► matter how good it feels in the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► because it like Marco said you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► just hold the thing it's not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► worry stone that you're just rubbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► your hand you actually look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► touch the screen and for looking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► touching the screen on a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► so i have one but I do like a good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► the airport for letting me keep my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► away from myself while listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► audio i I'm just I'm so torn because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► whenever i am using it i want a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► screen but whenever I'm holding it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► want a smaller phone and you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► the 5s but no i'm talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► oh I'm never happy with this size but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► I'm also not happy with any of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► ones so i picked the one of the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► that's kind of mediocre at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► and I am I guess least at least unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► but the but I don't know this is why i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► hoping so much that the next industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► design of the phone puts a larger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► smaller bodies like that's I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► so much you have the size screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► plus has but in something that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► quite as much bigger than the plus I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► know any any reduction in size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► probably enough to push me over the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► even if it's a small reduction just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► fine like and i don't i'm not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► about thickness you know that as as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► know from ever listening to me complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► I don't care that much about thickness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► it in the iphones kids more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► footprint the dimensions because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► what makes it awkward in the hand and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► awkward in my pocket the thickness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► itself is is not that important to me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► I'm really really hoping the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► does something like that but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► know this they keep selling so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/355">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► so i have a question if the next iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► let's let's just assume it's called an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► iphone eat i'm not saying that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► conversation that the next iPhone is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► iphone aid and let's assume for the sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► of conversation that it is approximately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► the same size as an iphone 7 physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► speaking but the screen because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► smaller bezels or John gazelles however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► is now roughly the size of a 7 plus i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/384">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► possible physically just for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/390">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► discussion is Mike right if we also get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► these iphone aids that are physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► the size that we've always used but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► screen size is the size of a plus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► Mike right yesterday is it is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► TARDIS where it's bigger on the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► masters go with that just go with now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► just go with it is like what if what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► you could have a bus but it was the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► of a matchbox compliments your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► precisely and getting shot know it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► reference so i have all three phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► that were talking about right here on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► desk have been doing this testing and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► you place the iphone 7 on top of a plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/424">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► phone you can still see the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► plus phone screen sticking out the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► and right after that up i don't think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► knows how big losses it's way bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► so yeah that's it's not possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► shove the massive screen into the mid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► sized body it is possible to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► massive screen into a phone that is less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► massive it would still be a very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► phone but it would be possible it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► be more pleasant in the hand it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► a little bit smaller and I honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► mean in the number three of us have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► asked about my knowledge correct me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► I'm wrong spent any time with one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► these like android curved screen edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► mhm but but there are you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► look at other phones on the market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► they they have creative ways to shove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► large screens into at least narrower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/474">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► important one and i think i would agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► with that in the hand narrower is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► of more important for whether you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► reach things with your hand and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► but man I just again any like the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► slightest improvement in size of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► I'm getting it you won't be swayed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► what they're probably going to do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► is keep these the the seven form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► but pulling the margins on that likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► the same size screen is the seven but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► smaller surround so basically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► making it in your hand feel closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► the five size you'd still go for the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► giant phone with its margins pulled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► as opposed to the the middle phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► the Martins pulled in so you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► right that you know that is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► kind of thing they would do like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► do one they would probably do both in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► with the same kind of treatment so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► phone use described which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► like the iphone 8 minus it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► really really great feeling in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► however i would have the same problems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► have with the current six which is 407 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► with this design which is that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► keep wanting more screen space and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► you know all the you know the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► battery in the biggest camera although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► honestly truth be told I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► totally fine with the battery on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► seven agreed and partly because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► doing a lot of iOS development so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► plugged in a lot just turning the dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► but but overall the battery from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► seven is noticeably better than I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► a success for me in my real-world use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► is a substantial difference and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► point now where like TIFF and I few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/571">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► between two segments of our couch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► that we would just always be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► pull between to the cushions we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► just be able to pull up a cable and plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► your phone in car charger captions great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► idea and we recently had to replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► couch and I haven't even set up the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► one yet with the charger cable because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► really like we never really use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► anymore because tips phone always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► the giant battery BacPac on it and mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► is always putting my computer all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► throughout you know they're outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► world like the battery is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► better enough in the 7th the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► size seven so that that is you know good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► for them i'm i'm really happy about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► in in practice and and that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► reasons why overall i am happier than i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► that being said I still want the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► screen and whatever the best camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► is hopefully the next one they can fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► hopefully the zoomed in one is both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► stabilized and not a meaningful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► smaller aperture so that would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► but i still do want like the best best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► best of all that stuff because i use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► phone so heavily for so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► throughout the day but our apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► make best of anything anymore i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► that's kind of fucking yeah you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/644">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► willing to tolerate that but anyway to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► answer question Jon I should probably I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► should probably just go ahead and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► the big one next time assuming it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► little bit smaller but i would the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► time I would have it I would be waffling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► the other direction so yeah you'll hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► justjust wait about what about nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► months and you'll start hearing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► like you will buy the bigger one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► will receive it you will use it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► week and then you all then you will keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► it for testing purposes by a smaller one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► and use it as your phone back maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► just I just want my wonderful seven that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► I'm unreasonably happy with in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► ways i just wanted to make phone calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► it's kind of important it is that do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► think thats related to the Intel do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► have the Intel chip instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► Qualcomm on the radio i do that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► another thing so i do have a book every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► I think AT&T sold phone i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► all of them except in the u.s. I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► all of them except the verizon one have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► the Intel one that i thought id never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► make phone calls from right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► so that is also one of my theories is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► that if i said this in to get fixed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► i buy a new phone in the meantime I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► would buy a verizon unlocked one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► then just maybe you know as if i get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► old one back then sell it or something i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► don't know i just want to deal with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► this is why i haven't got it fixed yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► has been able to make phone calls while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► since day one but I just like I need my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/724">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► okay Evan there has been a time where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► want to like you know ship it back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► be without it for probably at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► few days while Apple does whatever to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► and then it comes back and maybe isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► fixed mine has been completely fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► errands to the best of my knowledge have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► both been completely fine since we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► got them are both on AT&T both on iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► sevens and they've both been no problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► at all which i don't i'm not to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you know that's not to say that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/751">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► it's not a systemic issue with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/756">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► yeah that's what I was wondering was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► like I want this bug or something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► but by the way speaking of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► often we use our phones i have my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► right here and i can pull up how often I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► it's all calls to send and receive their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► just sent I'm going on the recent call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► section in the all tab that's everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► I would think so so this is 2017 phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► calls for me one on the fifth from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► house spam call on the 12 spam call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► 18 one on Thursday spam call on thursday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► and then one today so that's everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/790">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► in 20 12 through three spam calls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► three legit calls in 2017 so far it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► februari don't use my phone I have 52 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► yeah so you're you're feeling the pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► of a weird microphone a lot more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► am you get this 32 33 34 35 36 8 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► screen but yeah it's it's somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► between 40 and 50 and and i'm using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► no more robust thing to like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► know it's I mean it I i'm using it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► like the fact that it has caught some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► but I don't like that if you still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► yeah so iphone 7 overall thumbs up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► for God's sake I want to make phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► calls reliably and number also thumbs-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► big big supporter of that now I tried a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► lot of the call blocking things numero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► was the best i think it's like two bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► a month some kind of subscription price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► do it value well why would i would pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► more if it worked better and although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► still have high on here which was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► one I was using before which as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► point out marker like doesn't work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► annoying as evil because highlights you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► look up numbers so when one of them gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► through and I don't answer it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► why would I I want to know is the spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► call and I can just you know go too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► and paste in the number it's as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► you 9 out of 10 people reported this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► spam and I know you know yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► like I i I've had no my Robo miss spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► calls a couple of times in the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► days but overall it's been very solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► because when i'm not running a blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► of some sort i get roughly wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► really yeah for the last couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► I've gotten like almost wanted a maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► maybe it's more like 45 a week so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► like not quite one today but in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► ballpark and I had higher block 0 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► them ever i ran for like two months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► then i have i've had no robot now for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► couple of weeks and I have gotten i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► think one or two in like two weeks or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► i'll put a link to Marco's article about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► this in the show notes because it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► to understand the name of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/911">TS</a>]
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00:15:15 ◼ ► and then yeah short free for you hiyaa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► and then Nomo robo is no more robocalls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► but it's a no mor OBO all onward yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► anyway like the blog post all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► is linked it just sounds like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► gonna force a made-up words but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/928">TS</a>]
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00:15:35 ◼ ► you had to like to spell everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► because it's LOL its it's like flickr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► without the E and yeah I don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/939">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► yeah who would then we respond to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/944">TS</a>]
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00:16:07 ◼ ► by cutting out the middleman and selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/967">TS</a>]
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00:16:11 ◼ ► polycarbonate which is unrivaled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/971">TS</a>]
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00:16:15 ◼ ► lightweight the interior is very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► compression system you can fit a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► it also has helpful conveniences like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► 360-degree spinning wheels for you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► maneuver it easily and also they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► built-in laundry bag for your dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► somewhere you travel you get to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► your you wear clothes you stuff mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► laundry back when you're done you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► have to like me like the pile of dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► clothes in the hotel or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► use the built-in back it's so convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/999">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► and you might have heard about it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► clinical teacher they have they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► built-in battery in the carry-on model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► so you can charge your cell phone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► tablet readers anything powered by USB a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► single charge of the away carry on will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► charge your phone 5 times it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► smart why doesn't everyone do this they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► are truly designed for the modern age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► they also of course back it up they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1020">TS</a>]
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00:17:14 ◼ ► you can buy it travel with it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1034">TS</a>]
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00:17:52 ◼ ► ah alright so let's start with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► follow-up if you can claim starting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► late from most important piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► follow-up that I think we have which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► not in the list which makes John oh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► happy when i go off off off schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► I've heard a lot of feedback about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► shower habits and i have heard one piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► is the feedback that has disagreed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► showering at night and overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► probably because we've we've been hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► in the shadows for all these years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► ashamed that are at our own peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► ways dozens of us doesn't doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► like something with an overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► amount of feedback including many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► making that same reference i have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► it is absolutely the only way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► disgusting to shower during during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► morning time and many people wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► say i wanted i should've kept notes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► i believe was Japan it's just culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► the way they do it is to shower at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► forgive news like every country outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► characterized the feedback was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► first of all still the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► the entire United States against kc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► they didn't write in because the silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► basically every other person wrote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► said in insert country that's not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► the United States everybody either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► twice a day nobody wrote in from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► countries and said all we all shower in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► the morning because maybe there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► majority to but lots of people from many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► different countries in Europe South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► America Asia everywhere there are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► all we totally shower night but United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► States nothing from them together okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► she's crazy and so they just let him be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► there also were clear trends where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► hotter countries would more often do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► and also it seemed more prevalent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► yeah there's some people point out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► farther you get from Europe the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► showers people take someone who lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► South America but ya know I'm hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1188">TS</a>]
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00:19:55 ◼ ► covered all the bases but since Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► insists on bringing out 10 here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► one point that nobody brought out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► last time is like what i think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► obvious reason which again was instated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► because we all know cases the outlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1204">TS</a>]
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00:20:07 ◼ ► morning is gets back to the the dilbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► comic strip with after your shower to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► clean his object in your house right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1211">TS</a>]
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00:20:15 ◼ ► get sweaty or during the day if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► shower in the morning your interactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► with other people for your day for 925 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► day present you at the cleanest because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► you go for maximal cleanness slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► degrading until five o'clock right those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► are the best hours you give them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► hours here with that you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► working with other people if you shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► you've got a good solid eight hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► sweating your bed before you meet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► first person the next day for work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► that's the obvious morning shower thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► and I'm assuming that's why everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► America showers in the morning you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► John there's these magical devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► they're called air conditioners and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► can turn them on and conditions vehicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► no because no one sweats at night at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► room is the right temperature something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► like that I have some bad news for you / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► your wife as you age about night sweats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1258">TS</a>]
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00:21:07 ◼ ► show to keep us keep us in check i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► how like this week like everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► talking about apple earnings and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► talking about showers again we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► that's just follow up in kc added this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► the notes case you wanted to bring it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1278">TS</a>]
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00:21:29 ◼ ► sweetener and Diet Coke not sucralose i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► don't personally care whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► it's freaking delicious and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► was mark over we got a wrong like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► complaining about artificial sweeteners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► I I knew exactly i knew that already but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► it just it doesn't really like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► didn't and it doesn't really matter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► like the concept of an artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► sweetener I made some reference to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► it causing cancer and of course then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► heard from everybody about how it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► it doesn't cause cancer and chemical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► does or doesn't it doesn't but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► making a joke I I took it as a joke but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► i was able to get seriously which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► worth when I was making adjustments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► that's not that's not a real thing don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► be afraid you should be afraid perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► of weight gain and some relation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► diabetes from drinking diet sodas lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► of studies in that like how could I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► cause you to gain weight 60 calories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► how does that have anything to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► diabetes with lots of studies around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► that that do indicate there might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► something concerned about the cancer not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► so much i mean in general training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► yourself and your palate to not need all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► of your drinks to be sweetened is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► a good thing because like basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► you know for for purposes of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► calorie and sugar control the stupidest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► thing you could possibly do is drink a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► lot of calories like it's just the tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► it works so much against you is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► incredibly bad for you so like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► that conditions you two still want all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► your drinks to be sweet probably works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► against you in that well in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► even if one of the things you drink a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► yeah I don't know it still tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► delicious and I'm good with that REM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► cove and abandoned Basra rights in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► do you think it will be worth restoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► my iphone from scratch to get more a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► benefits and then he he he or she they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► talked for a while about the HP HFS to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► PFS conversion you know is that good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► John as our resident filesystem expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► what do you think so what he's asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► about i think is like if you leave all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► the data where it is just right all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► to new places maybe you have files that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► are fragmented and other stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► i'm not even sure if by the way hfs+ on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► iOS does the auto defragmenting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► that they they added two hrs + years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► like where we'll find files below a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► certain size that are overly fragmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► in its spare time defragment them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► stuff but so was asking like would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► ideally speaking to wipe your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► phone reformatted days there's a PFS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► refill it with your data so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► have fewer fragmented files and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► theory i think you could potentially get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► a nicer less fragmented layout but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► don't think it would be anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► you would notice and i think it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► even be hard to measure because flash is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► not a spinning disk and random access is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► faster on flash than it is on spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► disks and fragmentation even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► don't have the auto defragment stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► that's part of HFS plus it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► not that big of a concern so I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► think you would get some benefit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► maybe took great pains to measure it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► had a really threshold and compared it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► with a fresh one you would see but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► definitely not worth people doing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► just let convert in place it and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► oh and there's a question about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► a PFS will be open source like hfs+ is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► kinda sorta and what Apple has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► about that is they're going to document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► the board they say the volume format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► yeah the volume specification so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► going to put a document for that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► not the source code that's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► telling you hey here's how the bits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► discs and all they say is an open-source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► implementation is not available at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► time didn't say anything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► I so basically somebody else could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► theoretically make a third party tool or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► driver to at least read aps volumes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► probably wouldn't want to rely on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► kind of like the whole like mac on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► windows and ntfs on Matt kind of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► yeah I'm like that you can see the HFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► plus code which is you know very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► most interviews like it's all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► Darwin source repository but a PFS I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► not sure there's a big benefit to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► open sourcing because it's not like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► like Swift I don't think they want a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► take over the world instead I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► wanted to be a custom-tailored operators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► isn't just for their devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► they're free to change in any way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► and I don't know if anybody else has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► exact needs that Apple has like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► look at the features of aps they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► exist including the ones that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► know fancy new features all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► encryption keys and forgoing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► these ETFs data integrity features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► stuff are so tailored to apple specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► needs because it needs that encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► stuff for what it already doesn't iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► outside the file system now and it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► have the heavyweight stuff because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► asked around and watch and like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► know anyone else has those exact needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► so it's not really a general-purpose pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► your server file system it is a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► purpose Apple file system has its name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1592">TS</a>]
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00:26:49 ◼ ► listen to it audible has it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► listen to audiobooks in virtually every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► genre anytime anywhere on phones tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► computers even most candles and ipods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► audio books are great for flights long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► road trips or even your daily commute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► you might think I don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► read books audiobooks seemed really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► surprised how many audio books you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► read each year even if you only listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► to and from work every day because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► that time really adds up and audiobooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► bring books to life many of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► ready by the author's themselves which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► adds an extra dimension to the text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► you can take risks and try new authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► and John without regret because audible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► offers their great listen guarantee if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► you start an audiobook you end up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► you can trade it for another one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► free see and listen to all this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1651">TS</a>]
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00:27:40 ◼ ► because you can cancel your membership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► so with audiobooks and spoken word audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1663">TS</a>]
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00:27:57 ◼ ► thanks to audible for sponsoring our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► show ah so just was yesterday as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► record apple announced their what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► first-quarter earnings if I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► so things are going well as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► will link to a summary by Jason smell at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► six colors and as long as you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► the ipad things are mostly okay i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► know i don't really have a lot to add on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► this I've been really busy so I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► dug into this deeply Marco any thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► I mean I think it's probably best that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► we leave most of the discussion of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► to other podcast with people who do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► reporting more often but for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► part it is it is useful to just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► general trends of how things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► for Apple even if we aren't directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► investing in ourselves or care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► stock price like a night I used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► apple stock of a couple years ago at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► least if not more but I i have since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► individual stocks and sold off all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► ones i had and now I just invest if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► you're like mutual funds and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► that that might have it but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► disclosure there and honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► it's just a friend to friend here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► is not investment advice whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► whatever however I think investing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► individual stocks with a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► portion of your money is is a fool's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► game anyway I think looking at it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► general trends for apple and as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► watchers and Apple fans it is useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► see like these kind of numbers are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► Tim Cook is graded on by the board by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► optimizing for these numbers is a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► part of of cooks goals you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► whether he has other goals or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► initiatives things like that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► Vega nobles to the balance there however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► we do know for sure that it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► important that Tim Cook keeps these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► numbers looking healthy for the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► for investors and that does drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► decisions on some level again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► whether it's like a high priority in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► mind we can't know that's up to him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► it is useful to pay attention to what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► going on here to see trends in what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► working for apple and what's not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► for apple and where they need growth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► that can help inform our predictions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► our opinions and and our interpretations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► of what Apple does so you know in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► these earnings the iphones doing great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► it seems like it has kind of recovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► from the weird boost and then slight dip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► that it had with the seemingly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► related to the massive success of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► iphone 6 and 6 plus it seems like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► kind of back on a regular track now of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► steady growth so that's good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► iphone the iphone seems like it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► that's good for good for it the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► interesting it's up a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► it's within within normal realm so max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► seems like steady healthy not set her on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► fire and that's to be expected after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► year of having very few Mac releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► then in his quarters when the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► macbook pros became available so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► helped boost those for sure you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► that in the graphs and like things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► average selling price and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► because he ever selling pressure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► that's not a coincidence in the quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► in which they release a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► significantly more expensive than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► they replaced that is probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► the reasons why to make that up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► bit services are doing really well their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► services revenue is up by a good amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► that's interesting because like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► seems like that is that is a major part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► of their of their future growth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► they're going to want to boost up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► that might include things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► maybe we're not going to see a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► bunch of Cheaper iCloud storage this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► coming fall or summer or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► maybe we are going to see more ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► we can give Apple money every month more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► services more premium tears things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► that displays into things like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► Apple music is doing and they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► possible video efforts that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► hinting at or or saying very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► about things like that so expect to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► Apple because services of the wine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► going up and is now a decent number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► putting more into services and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► make more from us from services so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► know Tim Cook is really good at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► he's really good at taking existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► market that's doing pretty well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► turning the screws so they make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► from each person that's why the iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► now have two sizes and one of them cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► a hundred bucks more than the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► and all the based or just stuck for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► long because Tim Cook is really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► pushing the average selling prices up up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► to try to make more money from each new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► person that's why things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► ipad cases are so much more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► than they were in that the two parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► all this studying you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► hundred our battery back for the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► now and all these different things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► know this this is why i like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► definitely why the new macbook pros cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► so much more than doubles anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► expect to see tightening the screws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► boosts in the services area so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► probably going to see again more ways we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► can spend money on Apple every month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► coming this fall or summer whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► and then the other thing is the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the ipad is down again and not by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► small amount either it's it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► everyone has their own theories everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► has you know some people say Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► not telling the right story whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► that means I I honestly don't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► that argument to be some people say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► that I've had just last so long and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► therefore people don't replace them very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► often and some people think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► ipad is so is a flop in some way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► that nobody likes tablets anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► combination of all of these things and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► guess we were probably going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► more about that for the rest of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► so i will move on from that for now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► somewhere and other and we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► except Tim Cook says it was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► quarter ever for the watch so good on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► business chart that is now the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► bar on access that has no label so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► for the Apple watch their their quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► other revenue that the Apple watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► buried in didn't take a huge jump so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► don't it doesn't seem to get into making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► watch on revenue for the company but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► well we are analysts maybe I'm missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► something there but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► probably doing fine we just make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► services thing is awesome doom-and-gloom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► about like go look at their services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► growing there for apples not gonna lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► prices on iCloud storage i got that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► make the connection at all like services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► is all about getting more people to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► apple on a recurring basis for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► anything one way to do that is to lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► the price because if you can lower the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► price by half but getting more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► double the number of people to sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► for it then it works out and as a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► things buried in services not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► know when you say services a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► people think you just mean I cloud or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► like the app stores in there which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► one of the reasons everything is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► out then Apple music which is has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► back filling for the itunes music store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► downloads that sort of disappeared many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► years ago and now they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► apples finally getting to streaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► it's the idea that Apple has all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► surely there's some way Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► monetize them by making them pay some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► small amount for each one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► little things and trying to get kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► like the original video content doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► by attaching the original video content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► to Apple music that basically is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► to get more people to sign a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► music why because I think once they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► you on the Apple music thing you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► used to having all the music helps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► you just keep paying this month after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► month and I think to entice more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► to like you know how many people pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► iCloud storage whatever the percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► is now if it's not really really high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► like a ninety-percent Apple must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► thinking we could get more people to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► let me look at what the numbers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► actually we've been overcharging by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► ridiculous amount as everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► when compared to other cloud vendors why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► don't we just bumped that or lower the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► price or both and then we'll get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► people on board and by the way let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► attach some original video content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► iCloud storage and she don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► that the things they're willing to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► get to entice people to sign up for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► our online pearls another eel are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► boundless and seemingly don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► that well related because the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► offering exclusive like essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► television video content to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► to sign up for Apple music doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► any sense except that hey if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► something you want and the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► get it is to do this you'll do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► its sole reason people sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► amazon prime's they can watch man in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► shipping from amazon com four rolls of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► nothing but you'll do what it takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► get the content right and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► is a weird deal but people have shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► that it works if you give them something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► something they don't want just to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► the thing about how i did it i sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► for YouTube red just so i could or i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► sent for google play music just like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► YouTube red on a family plan i don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► google play music I don't get sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► my phone but I never actually launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► it is just so I don't you see ads on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► YouTube it's a tried-and-true technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► perspective but people love recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► yeah i mean i i'm slightly surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► wilton I'll guess I'll stick with it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► slightly surprised that things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► over all is well as they are I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► obviously on this show we've talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► lot about how we feel like things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► not the way they once were and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► the three of us have varying degrees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► how dire everything maybe but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► this was their best quarter ever i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► i'm looking at the very first chart on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► Jason Snell's post and the the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► recent quarter or 78.4 billion and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► nearest one was the prior holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► quarter or first-quarter I guess which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► is over the holidays which was seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► five point nine billion so i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► that's what two-and-a-half billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► dollars different something like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► mean that's a big difference in things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► are split up percentage-wise look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► slopes on this graph like gravel growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► is still slow especially look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► year-over-year revenue like the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► this is a big deal because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► coming out of three consecutive negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► year-over-year revenue growth quarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► it's like a we're back we're back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► black we're back positive we made more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► money in this quarter this year than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► did last year but you can kind of see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► you look at those if you look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► especially the big holiday quarters 46 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► 5457 the slope of that line versus 74 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► 78 right yesterday bro that growth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► still slowing an apple right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► something they have to deal with but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► mean i think is in line with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► we said on the show we've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► disproportionately focused on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► dissatisfaction with the macbook when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► all were asked to pick what is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► favorite apple product this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► I think so although now i would say air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► pods but at the time when like when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► are maybe you'd say our part don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► but I think Marco I the very least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► iphone 7 iphone 7 is a great phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► it doesn't surprise me that it sold well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► you know headphone jack whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► is a is a good phone is a tried-and-true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► think it's it's the third attempt at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► same form factor it has better battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► life they you know they worked out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► the issues they could possibly work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► the the weird home button and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► waterproofing and I like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► about it is a good phone and I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► said they've you know they're doing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► well in the phone space and because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► you look at the giant pacman chart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► you see the little do the pacman shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► wedge it is the iphone eating the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► of Apple's products if the phone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► well Apple does well and that totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► Dwarfs any but whatever the ipad some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► sort of problems there that's lost in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► the noise service revenue keeps going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and the mac continues doing what it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and that the little hike in the graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► like a mac SP is going up because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► cranked up the price of the max it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► like the old macbook for the past few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► years it's been like produce pent-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► demand by not releasing new computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► and then whatever the hell you release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► people will buy and if what you release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► is 500 bucks more than used to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► isp's will go up so it's not i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► think that's a healthy situation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► yeah yeah and i like it like Marcus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► don't know how much more analysis we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► should really be doing on this but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► sad about the ipad it's funny I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► don't know if we've talked about this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► the show I don't think so but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► flirting with the idea of getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► macbook adorable whenever the presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► pending refresh happens although with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► these with the way Apple as these days i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► guess i should never assume refresh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► coming but i know i i'm i really love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► my ipad mini and I have the most modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► one which was brand-new or nearly brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► Christmas prior i really love my ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► mini i really like that form factor i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► know a lot of people don't that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► but i can't help personally but feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► like anytime I want to do anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► look at twitter and I don't want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► creation to be but anytime I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► glance at twitter RSS or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► that I feel like I'm fighting the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► i feel like i'm fighting iOS and so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► really been debating you know maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► macbook adorable would be a better fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► for this problem because it would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► be very portable not as portable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► very portable and it would do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► a man could do maybe not as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► other max but that's why i have a 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► that i'm speaking on right now and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► would it would probably be a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► compromise and somebody tweeted I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► earlier today and I don't recall who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► but somebody had said earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► anyway that you know if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► it the macs are getting more in more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► more portable and the iPads aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► different than they were a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► multitasking is a lot better even my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► ipad mini can do the multitasking but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► feel like the change in portability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► the most portable max is dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► better as compared to the change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► ability of iOS on an iPad and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► led me to wonder you know maybe I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► just get a macbook adorable as a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► portable travel machine because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► might fit my needs even better and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► use this all and the reason I bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► up is because it's a case study of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► maybe the ipad isn't doing that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► and as Mark alluded to there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► immediate any immediate thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► before we get too far down the rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► I don't they go Matt could replace my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► ipad usage for me and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► probably true of most people put big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► maybe you're using an iPad because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► Mac was portable enough but for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► who are using iPads for ipad I purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► like there is no Mac even if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► Mac exactly the same size and weight as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► my ipad i still wouldn't use it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► I don't need a trackpad I want to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► I don't want to deal with the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► like I want an ipad for what for what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► browsing the web or reading Twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► watching video i want an ipad right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► the mac for that the ipad sales stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► like that you know that we shouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► this rattle off the reasons we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► about all the other things on Marco talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► about them in his post about the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► one of the most compelling ones aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► from my path lasting forever is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► people just use the iPads to watch video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► you want to spend eight hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► to watch video on a little square the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► screen right yet that's a loser market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► the apples and that can't stake out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► high end of square screens that play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► video because there is no high end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► that is that is doomed to a low-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► thing all you need is some basic Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► functionality a reasonable cpu with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► video decoding hardware and the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► to run the amazon prime and netflix apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► right there at their Amazon tablets for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► that their android tablets that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► not need an ipad to watch netflix i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► promise you right and so that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► you're doing with your ipad i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► people like tablets for that purpose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► you don't need an ipad for that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► other thrust of was the title of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► article Marco the future of computing oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► yeah so we've got our was on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► before on us remind Marco once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► because apparently I was their combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► before he wrote this post but every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► we discussed that I take great pains to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► emphasize the idea that the ipad as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► specific product as made by apple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► exists now may not necessarily be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► product that that sweeps across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► market and becomes the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► thing but when I specifically talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► the future of computing with capital F [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► capital see what I'm talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► post-pc computing which means computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► without as many of the concerns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► have necessarily come with pcs which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► includes dealing with Windows menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► pointers file systems like all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► stuff and as compared to iOS which swept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► abstracted and hit so much of it that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► the future of computing because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► can't handle pcs in general and dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► with file systems and their files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► windows of this just it's too much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► the iOS or smartphone whatever interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► where they take away almost all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► complexity and massively simplified and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► protect you from yourself that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► future of computing unquestionably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► question is okay how does that manifest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► removing all the functionality doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► manifest by windows becoming this mutant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► hybrid thing doesn't manifest bye-bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► android taking over the world order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► manifest by apple introduced in the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► it's up-and-coming on each one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► products to figure out how they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► there but you know you it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► like saying well the mac and successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► nope that's not the answer but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► know you can see what the future is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► because we've all lived in our entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► humans are at dealing with pcs with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► the stuff they come with and then iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► showed us a way to get a computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► platform with almost all that stuff gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► and now we're just hanging out yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► what about like the stuff he can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► and the ipad thus far has been doing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► Marco points out not a great job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► showing you how you can get that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► stuff done without the complications but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► complications that is so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► smartphones and nobody deals with any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that weird PC crap on their smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► like everything is just so much simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► and easier and easy-to-use which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► smartphones that raced across the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► world and a tablet is just basically up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► your smartphone in terms of how hard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► is to use at this point that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► change if you ever want a capital a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► capital C future computing to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► marginalize the pc to push it down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► the specific realms where it will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► to remain right but it's that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► microsoft trying to do with service to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► do apple sort of trying to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► ipad pro but half-heartedly is android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► doing anything in the space i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► i mean maybe account Chromebooks is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► attempt to get out away from the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► some of the other that the dangers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► PCs but like doing a very good job but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► but anyway that's that's the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► computer we all believe in and what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► what Apple should be what we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► creating an apple is like you're blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► you are not achieving that you you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► to have your cake but you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► terrible anyway they want to thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► but it's the it's the ipad and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► simple like your phones like yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► and you use your place you bc it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► well can we write and you know it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► Apple has to show us how to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► because there are things we need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► and we need to be able to do them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► they need to be pleasant just like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► previously we were not able to do web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► or it was incredibly unpleasant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► apple said no actually you can do web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► browsing on a tablet and phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► think we would all agree the browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► the web on a tablet is super pleasant it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► in many many ways nicer than doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► a pc if only because you can be sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► on the couch and looking back and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► your fingers like more like flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► through a magazine web browsing you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► nailed that ipad but as Marco point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► a million other things like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► photoshop or dealing with a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► projects that span lots of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► applications and share data you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► typical piece at keysight stuff I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► hasn't yet been demonstrated that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► able to do all those things in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► way so everyone else is a contender the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► mac is still contender for the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► computing provided Apple was willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► remove all the functionality we know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► love about the mac which I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► never do but that that's one way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► could try to get there you can try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► get there like Microsoft bye-bye weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► more from your desktop OS into a hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► OS does both things at once and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► who knows how we get there but iOS such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► a stake in the ground is to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► no one wants to deal with the crap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► we deal with on Macs and PCs today like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► that is not the future of computing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► have to leave that behind but so far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► ipad has not been a compelling argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► that and there was one other graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► that's not in Jason's smells page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► work out here in six colors calm which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► will put in the show notes that has tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and tons of pretty graphs one page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► it's showing a graphs of days of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► week like average days of the week usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► time for what was it for smart phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► and pcs and the smart phone line is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► this little lumpy thing that goes along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► right you don't see any particular large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► trends there and the pc thing goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► monday through friday huge dip saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► and sunday and backup for monday through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► friday huge dip saturday and sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► which is something that people use pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► the weekends right and what are they not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► on the weekends they're not at work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► maybe they're using PC's at work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► maybe the only considers pc is a work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► like thing but the phones they use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► the time I feel like if the ipad curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► was shown it would look more like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► phone cover unless like to PC curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► because people aren't for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► work on their iPad the iPad curve would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► just be like i use the same at pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► much every day it would be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► weekends here i'm not going to be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► iPad because he was my pad for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► you'll know that's the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► ipad or any other pc replacement device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► or post-pc devices finally useful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► all the same thing species are when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► starts to get the same curve because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► everyone's got to do some work and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► of people do work involving some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► task with computing and if they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► doing that on personal computer type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► devices minutes it could be lagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► indicator so maybe we have to wait a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► more years but right now think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► number of people you know every day go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► to work and just use a tablet of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► kind as opposed to pci no way more pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► users maybe because all my friends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► old but keep an eye on that I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► think what we're seeing that I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► right way to interpret the ipad and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► future of computing and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► is probably something between the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► blog post i made and the argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► John is making and the argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► Jason snow made on upgrade this week you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► know that the future of computing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► going to be just one of these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► things it's not going to be just tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► and it's not going to be just computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► my argument is not that the ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► failing as a thing or that it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► away or that useless to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► my argument is simply that when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► computing what they usually mean by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► computer you know I'm again I mean pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► and macs and that basically mean nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► for the most part in laptops and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► know other desktops and things that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► windows or mac OS like or linux even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► like pc-style os's and i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► most likely outcome here is that the as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► is a tablets event of all sorts are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► going to replace pcs they are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► do what they've been doing which is add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► to them augment them they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► some people who only primarily like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► tablets is going to be some people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► only are primarily like pcs they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► going to actually replace each other in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► well the only way that will happen i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► don't think you can do that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► you can have them not replace them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► essentially adopt all the attributes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► that I was just discussing of iOS style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► computing like in other words pcs would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► have to abandon all the weird-ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► crafted regular people don't like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► can handle about pcs i like because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► can't they can't stay in a current state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► of like with all the legacy stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► the PCOS have to deal with that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► untenable situation because people can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► use them and people can use phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► so something something is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► marginalize current style pcs whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► it's the pieces themselves changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► because it totally could be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► could take any of those opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► operating systems you listed and slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► basically I OSFI them while leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► enough of the functionality still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► you know for showing through so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► get more stuff done and you can an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► for example but you can't leave it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► it's again it's like going back two dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► like saying well I can't do everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► was mad that I can do it on my pc with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► das therefore it's a dead-end people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► just you keep using the last forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► they won't like you the capabilities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► the GUI will eventually expand to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► enough of the things you know so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► I i don't think there is any situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► where the pc as exists today with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► this legacy concerns does not become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► marginalizing the future is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► question of what marginalize it like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► disappear but marginalized like it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► the same way that you know people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► the command line still tons of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► looking online today I use it every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► but it's marginalized i'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► sure that your premises are our sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► here so problem number one is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► said people can't figure out how to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► pcs but they can use their phones do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► actually a thing like our pcs really as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► hard as as we think they're to use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► then our phones as easy as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► they are to use or is that cap actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► smaller than what we might think oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► go go find someone who has a pc whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► at work or at home even and just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► it that's all I was just just look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► just to sit watch them use it and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► what's on it and see what state it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► and ask them to use to do something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► yes people have trouble with phones too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► it's a relative thing but one is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► don't you know one is not infinitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► easy and one is not infinitely hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► yes you can learn to use anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► you have to get rid of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► people don't like to to be concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► about it means the reason people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► the phone so much they took away so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► things that they have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► right let's make let's on Android but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► don't know about this village on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► reasons that's always in your pocket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► it has these awesome cameras and sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► and always data connections like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► a lot about phones to love that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► have to do with the usability paradigm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► of their software but people people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► that people can do things with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► phones that the pcs could also do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► they never did with the pcs because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► was too much of a pain even just down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► like installing software so easy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► phones hard enough on on personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► computers and so fraught on personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► computers because of lack of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► store and viruses and all sorts of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► like that that people didn't attempt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► or accidentally attempted to backside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► clicking on things installed browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► toolbars and crap like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► like well all the crap of the pc world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► makes it so people even if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► equally easy to use it would say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► suddenly i'm installing software all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► cool new app I'm gonna try it no no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► regular people were not discussing cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► new apps for their pcs only nerds for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► that alone is resting a huge I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► you're describing android is that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► less than 100 even android if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► the disposability phones like well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► phone is hosed I like you know the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► that normalize backups and the anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► to nobody essentially nobody did to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► their personal computers but because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► cloud backup cell phone stuff built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► more people have a shot at having some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► kind of backup of something somewhere on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► their phones where species like forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► it no your backups might as well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► exist as far as the non nerd world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► well and and so I think there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► mentioned like you command line all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► way up all the way up to like gooey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► phone when you're in the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► difficult side of it getting getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► like productivity and power user type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► tasks done is it possibly easier than on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► the easy devices but casual use harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► and then on the on the devices like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► phones and iPads getting productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► and power use type things done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► actually hard to figure out but casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► somewhere in the middle there is the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► style OS it pieces are lessons are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► everything I think we are generally much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► better using them for productivity type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► things in Paris type things and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► partially because most productivity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► power user people have grown up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► computers to some degree or having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► certain number of years using them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► there's already a lot of people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► what people are used to people already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► trained on how to use computers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► most part but also part of just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► design of them is you know with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► paradigms of the desktops and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► and all this drag and drop multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► windows kind of stuff it's just a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► easier to do a lot of tasks as a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► like productivity and powers of tasks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► a pc silo s that's not to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► pads and stuff can't get some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► features but that but also you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► that pcs can't get some of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► ease of use and security features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► I've had and phones have that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► that's all I'm saying like if it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► do that to the PC operating system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► filesystem pieces operating systems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► it's the same argument is just like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► the question of venue where where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► that going to happen it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► happen because people don't like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► way they like the new way better i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► i'm pretty sure that sales curve showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► something else yes they've proven it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► blood but by what they want to buy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► mean like so here's the thing with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► it's about marginalizing uses about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► chasing them farther into the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► like so people who use the command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► and who do sophisticated things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► computers will still need pcs but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► those people who just do email word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► processing calendaring web browsing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► don't need pcs now they have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► because basically the only way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► outlook and to be able to see pdfs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► do all the stuff but increasingly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► your company uses google docs and slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► there's no reason those people need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► full-fledged pc not because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► doing command-line stuff but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► even doing anything complicated enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► command-line portions of a GUI like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► don't have multiple files that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► assembling into a large you know project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► development is also kind of a command or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► anything but it's a matter of slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► making the people who need pcs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► smaller and smaller subset of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► the same way the people who need command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► lines have become a smaller and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► subset of people it stops at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► it's not as if you mean if the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► line and marginalizing the command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► has really stalled out because so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► people to software development or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► stuff involving you know servers and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► on where the command line is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► and is not going away anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► right so it's not like you chased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► command line to wait until the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► three people in the world using it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► it shrinks way down from where was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► last thing like to do your regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► business stuff you don't need a command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► line you can get that all done with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► gooey which was which was an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► points like well I want to really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► done any dots but I wanted this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► silly thing like drop the so digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► eventually you can do everything we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► spreadsheets you can write your word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► processing things even had been invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► like hell you know you do all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► from the GUI it's just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► marginalizing that stuff and if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► stuff gets marginalized by like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► style pc operating system and new style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► one that hides all that crap or mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► within one or that it really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► the particular company then ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► figuring this out whether it be apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► approach or Microsoft with hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► approach or Android with its follow us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► OS whatever hybrid asking or even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► with the web stuff like can you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► everything done with the web browser and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► use a Chromebook for regular people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► you have nothing locally and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► definitely don't know to need a pc style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► operating system to do that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► something that can run all the web apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► and that's not so far-fetched especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► if like there's a slack clients like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► that so I you know I I don't I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► focus on one single product i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► focus on what we call pcs because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► possible for them to be the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► computing as well just have to look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► where where and how the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► really do continue to need a GUI end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► getting you know where where do they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► chase what car they get chased into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► because they'll be hanging out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► with the command line people because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► the command line people are not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► anywhere and very often they're the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► people and so eventually they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► joined by the people who need to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► like full PC operating systems then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► everyone else will be trying to book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► rooms and outlook usually on their on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► their future of computing devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► because that's what they do all day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► calendars and I voice time and slack so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► i don't disagree with much of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► said I think I think we're kind of going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► to different points here basically my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► theory is that the pc style operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► system and the ipad style operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► system have this this kind of common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► ground between the two that they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► kind of aiming for or should be aiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► for to solve their problems but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► sure they mention that I'm not sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► either product can get to the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► common ground or like if they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► meet in the middle successfully i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► sure that would be a good product for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► either of them but i'm using the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► company because the same company would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► be foolish to make their two products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► meet in the middle like right so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► they could be likely to the ipad meats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► like Windows 10 in the middle you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► me and like when Windows 10 goes goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► tablet and the ipad goes pc but the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► would still be hanging out there in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► full fledge pc area right however I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► think though that we are judging this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► for the most part from what Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► doing because Microsoft does crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► things there they are kind of on drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► they don't get it who knows what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► doing over there sometimes they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► microsoft is showing that there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► a lot that can maybe be done in pc-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► os's and and also there there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► possibility of making more productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► focused tablets like Microsoft is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► a bunch of stuff in that area and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► all wacky and some of it is cool most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► it is weird and sometimes it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► actually are moving and they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► seeing some progress there and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► success with their surface stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► various windows 10 seconds like we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► fun of it but it actually is starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► actually succeed anyway we are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► at apple for this because we know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► if they put their mind to it would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► better job at both sides of this however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► i think it's very clear from recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► years that Apple's not really stepping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► on the gas too hard on either side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► this they're devoting their resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► they're focusing on things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► iphone and services and the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► maybe occasionally the TV and pouring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► God knows how much effort into this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► car thing we are not really stepping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► the gas on trying to improve mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► which seems like almost in maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► mode and ipad OS / iOS seem like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► these productivity style or or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► power user style ways it jumps forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► like every two years in some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► way like that multitasking are split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► screen or extensions or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► but that kind of just sits there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► while they're not really driving quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► towards either of these goals and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► kind of unclear as to whether they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► so I think it's kind of a bad example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► like we we are trying to argue whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► these things are possible whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► conversions as possible or which one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► these is like quote the right or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► inevitable the future approach but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► basing that on only what Apple's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► here and I think that's kind of blinding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► us to and well but I'm what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► possible because if a company was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► company had these platforms that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► cared a lot about these particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► things have to prioritize them higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► than what Apple does i think we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► see more answers more quickly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► considered and Microsoft is almost doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► that like there again they're doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► lot of crazy stuff there's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► very well most of the time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► they're not that great at it but we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► seeing like it is possible if you invest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► heavily in these areas and you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► step on the gas in these areas it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► possible to both have interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► tablets that could be easy to use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► also run productivity software pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► well and it's also possible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► interesting new things with desktops to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► bring them closer to the tablet world in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► in ways that make tablet real good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► think it's only a matter of for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► specifically do they care enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► mac OS to make major changes to the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► and to the way it works and we just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► the touch bar everything and that's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► that's not a major change to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► interaction model or the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► model of the OS that's a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► features that sells new hardware and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► some software integration and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► really cool the way to integrate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► hardware and everything but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► fundamentally changing mac OS any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► so today well okay that is not additive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► it's it but I think Marcus its Marcus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► Wright is purely added if it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► not taking away any complexity for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► mac put it that way and you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► weird stuff on the mac like the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► part doesn't also that all is just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► additive cool thing right but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► not allow you to avoid or otherwise hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► or make move any of the complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► involved in all the things that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► better than the mac exactly and then on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► the other side I OS on you on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► the phone is making great strides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► course because that's where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3958">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► focuses a lot because that's good they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► should that's what that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► action is like that makes sense but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► the ipad what we see it we see the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► pattern from them over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► which is they give the ipad a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► of attention and they kind of just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► it sit for a year or two and they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► it a little bit more attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► ultimately the ipad always is playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► second fiddle to the iphone that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► that's true of both in Apple's attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► also just the design of the OS in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► many ways the ipad just a blown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► iphone and it seems like that's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► okay with everybody and that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► there are a lot of advantages to doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► it that way but if you keep doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► or replaces more pcs meaningful than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► is replacing now you just go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► screen thing which was the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► always bring up like people don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► pcs with 12 inch screens on their desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► like maybe in laptops but even then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► think if they want to work all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► they're hooked up to a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► there's a reason for that but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► bigger screen lets you see more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► that makes you more productive remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► back in the day you remember back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► eighties all the studies about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► increases when you have bigger CRT on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► your desk in like this video's as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► excuse to demand a massive 21 inch CRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► which actually they were massive they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► really huge and heavy and people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► understand exactly how big those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► were but yeah I mean like how it be both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► the ipad and on the Mac when one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► things that I was a tribute to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► fictional person of apple computer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► is not a person but a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► people but you know it's sort of turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► into a person like Apple is hoping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► people don't have to do such complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► things can't you do all of your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► with the ipad apps that we give you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► at a simple they are you just need these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► simple functions just need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► no you don't need to be able to crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► with with fixed proportions but also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► landscape and portrait you only need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► do have mac on the iphone teeth really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► need to do that when you edit video you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► really that fine control of how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► audio comes in or can you just drag the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► slider and we'll pick the curve for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► like do you really need that much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► precision editor is that precise enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► couldn't can't you get your work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► just with these simple visit so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► easier with the symbol we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► dialogues all these numbers in them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► don't have all these pallets that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► have to rearrange and so many pallets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► you can even have them all on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► the same time of the pic which ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► that's just too much like how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► simple as guys read can't you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► work that people say sometimes but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► times no arm and Apple really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► want to give you either like for the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► I can't you worked with one cpu most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► the time yeah but maybe I want if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► two of them and they both had 12 cores I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► could cut this portion of my work down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► in half and it would make me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► productive farm but but can't you get is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► this ok we just buy this one it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► that it's like wishful thinking that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► massive simplification that is so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► for everybody doesn't fit that they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► more people into it than it does and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► marketed like people just getting shaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► Apple has shown that they're essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► captive audience when you come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► the new laptops and the 500 always more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► expensive and they don't have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► ports and features that you may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► you're gonna buy him anyway what choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► do you have what you do you know vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► for a third party candidate go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► thrown away but i finally got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► yeah so it so to get like that is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► feel like is where Apple is dropping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► there have been too optimistic too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► hopeful that every new thing they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► whether it's like the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► imovie were there to keep the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► around for you know that old one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► really old car for many many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► you know all the way up to the hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that the iOS versions of their apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► the iOS versions of photo editing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► would would be enough for anybody so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► much so that we can even just put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► to the mac and be enough for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► there to like that is probably good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► strategy for trying to simplify for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► people but it just slowly like torturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► the people who really do have demanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► needs and apple doesn't want to complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► if I the software and apple doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► to want to make it so that other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► can make similarly similarly complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► software if only because they refused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► make an ipad with a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► because you can't fit all Lightroom's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► palace in there my market was playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► with my room on a 28-inch surface to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► that gives you enough room for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► rooms crazy pallets I'll do you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► need all these controls in my room can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► you get away with just the controls that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► are in like an okay iOS app know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► actually can't do this for a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► section of the market you can't and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► apple doesn't care about them they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► seating that entire market both on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► pc and mac to other people now the break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► microsoft they're kind of in the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► position and I kind of feel bad for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► but kind of not because you know history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► where even if Microsoft has the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► product and even if the product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► sometimes you're just not in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► market position are you have the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► reputation like forces independent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► the quality of your product can cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► look at apple in the nineties the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► operating system the best gooey but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► like Microsoft authorities one and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► classic OS was the best operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► in the nineties yeah i'll give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► eighties and maybe the first part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► nineties first few years maybe but leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► well what right before until windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► 2000-2001 ninety nine yes nine trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► I mean sir i'm doing and then like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► attack on the tech things you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► it's borderline but anyway certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► back when it was like the Macintosh vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► das and like windows 1.0 and so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► anyway not to rehash that sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► don't win with the best product right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► forget it writer than apple like we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► are at the whim of the companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► exist and they're in there in trench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► legacies and their customer bases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► where they make them like it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► perfect system where when someone comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► up with the right answer it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► you know it we we have we are stuck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► the companies that we have for the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► companies that will have to grow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► replace them and that is a ugly messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► slow process and so it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► tell if Microsoft actually has the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► answer like for example if Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► done with Microsoft's doing with its OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► strategy they would probably be farther [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► along because Apple has been in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► stronger position because of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► thing called the iphone and they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► have made a lot of headway there were as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► Microsoft was coming away from behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► having really gone you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► missed the boat on the mobile thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► having all sorts of problems with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► traditional sources of revenue switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► around trying to change into a services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► company like so it's really hard to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► i think about the right answer there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► either but i love that Microsoft has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► luxury of having a completely failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► smartphone efforts of the evidence no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► legacy and smartphones to work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► well it's just stuff like now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► outlet that uh that iOS and Android like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► what room is there for like it Tyson or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► whatever the hell that thing is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► all rights and stuff like it again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► smartphone operating system technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► a statically user-friendliness or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► whatever it's so hard to go up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► entrenched interests but then we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► talk about Apple's we know more about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► and if you like apples apples mistake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► actually one of naive optimism or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► wishful thinking and they and they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► plugging away I like they plugged away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► at you don't need access to the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► system for how many years before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► iCloud drive like this all just wasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► could be if they were to come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► better answer that fine you can come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► not really good to wait six years or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► hell it was before before I cloud drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► everybody's already using dropbox or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► onedrive or whatever that they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► and you know I cloud drive because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► entrenched it's from the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► same thing with Apple music streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► like there isn't an advantage of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► the the platform owner but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► not a that's not a strong move to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► functionality over form provides while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► hiding the complexity and then not come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► up with a suitable replacement and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► just bail couple years later and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► okay here's here's dropbox this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► always the struggle of the iPad and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► iOS in general also fits but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► more for the ipad that in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► enable these power uses you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► give a little on the simplicity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► there's always the question of whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► you're actually just you know slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► re-implementing the back the mac poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► you know like the whole list joke and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► think I don't think that the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► has shown yet that anybody has a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► good idea of how to balance those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► multitasking and and file access and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► things like that and simplicity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► tablet use i think almost everybody just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► kind of punch the answer that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► of oh well this Apple figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► they're smart or something some answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► like that that's really not an answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► it's like usually apple doesn't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► things out that we can't figure out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► solution to ourselves like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► usually apples made it for the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► of people outside of apple and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► if we can figure out whether whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► solution to a problem can even exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► they usually can't either they usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► yep this is a problem deal with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► look like when the ipad was was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► being rumored we were all able what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► they're gonna do for text input because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► on-screen keyboards are pretty limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► but you can't have like a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► keyboard on the tablet that doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► what are they gonna do and they punted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► on-screen keyboard its limited but deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► with it and will tell you this external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► and yeah like sometimes these are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► kind of unsolvable design problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► you just have to pick one or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► and neither are great and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► balance between the you know file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► access and windowing and multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► simplicity of what iOS offers today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► just don't think there is a good balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► between those two there might be ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► do it better than what the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► windows do but i still think that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► add that power you were going to ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► the simplicity you're going to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► it's good it is going to be one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► design punts and I'm not sure that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► is necessarily avoidable but but but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► do think it's it might be an unsolvable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► problem because tablets have been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► for awhile now and we still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► figured out a solution to this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► you know I keep coming back to is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► listening to you guys I I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► what chris lattner did set a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► episodes ago but it's cool that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► say that he liked what he had said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► Swift having and I forget the term we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► use maybe one of you remembers but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► progressive disclosure and yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► where I was going with this where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► think by and large market i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► personally don't see a way to square the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► circle and in order to make an ipad more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► usable for more people in a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► I think you would have to take away a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► lot of the things that make the ipad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► great today but progressive disclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► is the thing that's already happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► like if you don't do a swipe from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► right side of the screen toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► multitasking if you don't hit that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► oh yeah and that's where so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► what I'm driving at you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► and actually I think that's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► relevant like it sounds like a side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► thing i do you actually do gesture so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► what that's one of the things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► more trouble someone touch devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► less on PCs we're like progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► operating system because you're less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► likely to accidentally trigger something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► input is more precise right and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► more mechanisms right you have an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► keyboard and then you have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► hotkeys and you have a pointing device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► and two buttons on you can have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► alternate clicks and modifier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► they're not afraid to put preferences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► like hey you want to disable dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► and disabled hot corners you can't iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► has you know disable multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► gestures and stuff but some things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► just can't turn off on iOS because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► they're always they're like actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► control center i think you can as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► preference for that too but yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► type of that type of things like how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► you do progressive disclosure disclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► well on a device where you've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► used up like every possible Morse code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► click combination on the home button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► fifty million gestures and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► keyboard like that kind of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► painted themselves into a corner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► their ability it in their eagerness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► gild the lily of iOS touch interface is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► not leaving a lot of room for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► win the more complicated stuff in a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► yeah I i agree with you and I I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► can't help but wonder is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► that I'm not seen today that would lend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► itself to having the ipad feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► more i'm gonna use the word professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► but I can think of a better way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► work for but more professional device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► and I think about if you had told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4734">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► oh you know there's gonna come a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► that you can have this floating window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► that plays video that you can shimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► around the screen and enlarged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► shrink and swipe off to the side to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► of hide it for a minute I would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► thought you were bonkers and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► have wondered you know how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► activate that well how do you make how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► to make it go away what do you do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► picture-in-picture the ipad is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► and similarly multitasking is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► it's pretty crappy switching between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► apps on the little multitasking app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► switcher but by and large it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► awesome and I don't know that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► have seen a way to do that prior to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► having actually seen the way it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► implemented so I i do agree with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► both of you but I can't help but wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► what is it that we are not thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► that would make something in the spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► of progressive disclosure possible and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► i don't know i have no specifics but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► makes me wonder what's coming you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► no you're not thinking of it but i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► totally i'm thinking of it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► something else was getting with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► being wishful in hoping that the simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► limited form factors in interface venues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► that they have provided on the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► and increasingly on the Mac will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► sufficient for everybody's needs they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► are intentionally not doing a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► obvious things for a long time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► intentionally didn't do the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► basically Apple pencil for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► they avoid that because it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► most people don't need it maybe we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► get along without it and you know we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► to endure many many years of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► selling hot dogs on a stick that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► artificial finger thing and like it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► so long for them to get through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► skulls like people want to draw on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► things they're buying these terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► devices that do it for guns to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► pencil and they did finally right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► are so many obvious things they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► they can make a much bigger form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► if you want to see the microsoft already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► gone the whole product that you can rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► off ideas from or get inspired from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► can do more things with multitasking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► simply splitting the screen you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► more things with hot keys and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► little floating windows like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► tons of obvious things they can do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► you know the the thing tomorrow we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► talk about something about are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► and then my the first was to interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► that I did just after iOS came out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► think it may be the very first one after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► it was clear there was some crossover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► between them it was like is it easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► make the mac more like iOS 42 or to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► us more like the mac like it easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► simplify mac OS or brings capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► of the mac ios and I think it at said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► then I think now is much easier to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► the capabilities of the mac to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► without messing up that is to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► reverse because as soon as you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► trying to make the mac to be like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► you totally destroyed usefulness for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► people who want to use it for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► replacement for that if on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► hand you take iOS which is a clean slate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► and was much cleaner back then than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► is now but a clean slate and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► get let people do the more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► stuff with like he said progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► disclosures it is a much easier thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► do and you get a chance to do it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► different way over there and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► you're doing that you're not screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► professionals who presumably can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► use your max and if you're doing a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► job on iOS you're also not screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► people who never use that functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► and arguably that's what Apple has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► throw by making the 12-point whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► enjoy bet by making the pencil by adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► multitasking but boy did take them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► long time and they're still stubborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► about you know about going all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► like I I don't know what I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► what they're holding out for out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► waiting for I know maybe they're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► for people to die and have us to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► but i agree with Marco and that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► use cases aren't going to change people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► complications but if they can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► unless complications they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► do them period like though they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► they have to do them because it is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► of their job and if you don't give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► a simpler way to do it they will limp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► along with the more complicated wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► until and unless somebody could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► Microsoft could be anybody else gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► them away to literally do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► really complicated jobs with less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► fighting with the Machine and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► still seems like like like Marcus like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► give them a little bit does this move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► the needle is the ipad really Pro device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► now because we made a slightly bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► one and give you a pencil it helps it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► doesn't hurt right but my service to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► is like what are you even doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► what was the the mean you're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► little baby and the 28 inch Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► service studio that's how Apple Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► personification of Apple as they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► really wish people didn't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► such complicated things computers it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► people's actual needs we are sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5008">TS</a>]
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01:30:32 ◼ ► one machine that they can carry anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5432">TS</a>]
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01:30:38 ◼ ► for most of my life had a single laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► that was my everything computer and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► there were compromises for sure but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► preferred having one machine that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► had all of my stuff always because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► was better to me and that was it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► was a trade-off I was willing to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► operator for designer what-have-you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► doesn't necessarily want to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► trade that doesn't mean that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► doesn't want to make that trade and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► mean look at all the people that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► have macbook airs that may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► plug them into external monitors all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► time like those are small displays they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► aren't even read nightmare may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► dry because they may or may not be dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► to you never know and they can keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► liquids away from your computer's kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► anyway so I i don't i'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► say that you're wrong John or Marco but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► i think that that there is a spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► here that you're not really giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► specifically about pro applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► are expensive there have a foundation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► the mac cells people who use them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► work and those are the people you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► pry away from their desks with the 12.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► obviously there's tons of people again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► like I said we're just doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► they're just messing around without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► looking sending emails and doing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► browsing and writing stuff up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► talking with other people and chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► applications like by all means like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► man it's just a question of whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► want a laptop or hardware keyboard also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► stuff like that and even even within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► realm of your single machine being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► ipad with a two terabyte flash drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► it you can sit down you disconnected up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► to a massive 28 inch touchscreen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► have like service to do when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► sitting and when you pick it up an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► gets back to marco was saying ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► sell one app that scales a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► screen sizes like you can if you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► lightroom on the pc and you have a 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► imac or a 5k external screen assume your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► oh and you connected to your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► experience that the ipad does not offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► you've got a 12.5 inch screen and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► what you're stuck with whether you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► a desk or not you can't sell one version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► of your application that can you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► all the different screens no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► you want to do what you want to single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► machine multiple machine or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► ipad does not address that at all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► hardware reasons that you know it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► that's all that's over saying like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► specifically talking about high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► people you will never dislodge them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► you know until like the ARV our realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► comes and things are being projected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► onto the redness or something and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► don't care big screens are and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► all a moot point but for now anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► the outfit and the software and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► application ecosystems that Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► chosen for itself are necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► different choices but they have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► other challenges that are unrelated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► the quality or potential of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► products so we're still just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► here patiently waiting for Apple to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► its next progression of the ipad but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► just seems like a blitz to be dragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► kicking and screaming into into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► future and in the meantime they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► chopping out the legs underneath the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► and helping people get all their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► done and even simpler situations on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► mac and if I can't have fun dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► third-party monitor when the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► problem so you know I mentioned the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► applications issue which is what got us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► on this big tangent but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► problem Casey is what you do we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► just talking about it is really nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► have one machine for lots of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► lots of people have one machine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that's a huge concern because a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► SPECT ipad is not cheap like if you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► you're lucky to be out of there for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► than 600 bucks and that's without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► accessories if you actually want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► keyboard or a cover or anything it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► easy to spend like eight nine dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► and it just to get what you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► like a mid-range I've had with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► a couple of accessories that they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► of are required him to make it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► useful to you a lot of people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► in-between device when they already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► a phone which covers most of their ultra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► mobile and ultra-simple needs and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► already might have a computer a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► and so people who want only one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► that one device so often now i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► going to say I'm not even gonna say most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► of the time I'm not even sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► that one device often can't be an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► because that one day and assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► phone is always gonna be there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► it doesn't mean I'm talking 1 divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► between iPad or computer so often that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► can't be an iPad because of things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► we were just complaining about hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► limitations of just made things don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► make it in this size you can plug in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► external screen or whatever else there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► are so many limitations with iPads that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► if you need to do something outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► and optimized for by Apple you hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► brick wall and you just can't it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► well that the answer that you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► do that or you hit what appears to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► brick wall and there might be some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► of power user app to work around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► but you might not know that as a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► I've had user or you might have an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► where you might not want to spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► money for the app or whatever else so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► that they're just there are so many hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► brick walls that you hit when trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► do any kind of edge case thing or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► some pretty common things on iPads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► iOS and if you're one device is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► computer it might be less fun or harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► or more complicated to use but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► far fewer of those brick walls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► computer is like it's you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► architecture partly from hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► ecosystem the computer is the everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► device it can do so so much especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► when combined with a phone because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► like the phone covers your ultra mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► your camera and then the computer covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► like everything else for so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► if they can only have or if they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► want or they can only justify paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► the idea that it would be a tablet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► not high on their list because they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► need to do something or they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► something that they prefer the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► something is done that can only be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► on a computer and that trying to an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► either impossible or really it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► fight you the whole time and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► you were saying earlier about wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► maybe you know get a small laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► instead of your your retina ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► sorry Stephen again there are these all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► these walls that you hit trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► things with iOS that while many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► can do great work on iOS and love doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► I think they are minority you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► everyone can always point to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► power users like the teaching who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► use the ipad late for everything and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► relative or a friend who's like a novice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► at using computers and the ipad is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► only computer but there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► people in between and for so many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► people in between a pc style operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► see style hardware is the only way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► can get their needs salt and one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► well that's true and again this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► changing that would require so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► changes and expansions to both iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► ipad hardware that that just seemed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► unlikely that apple would ever do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► that's why I think it's fairly unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► that we're going to get to that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► think it's much more likely that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► going to keep going where we are for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► basically we're gonna keep selling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► these devices that are kind of in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► big Venn diagram or all the circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► overlap like a third of the way with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► other circles and and we just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► know apples a hardware company they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► to sell you more hardware so Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► perfectly fine have the strategy be 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► for you you like parts of this device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► part of this device you should buy both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► yeah like that's I have a feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► maybe the strategy for a long time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► the ipad is never going to replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► mac and this shouldn't mix if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► future for any kind of mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► mainstream and power computing on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► devices the ipad better not replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► mac unless it has significant changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► but again i don't see it just seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► unlikely that the Apple that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► today would do the kind of changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► both ipad OS and hardware that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► enable it to fully replace the mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► must be tough and imagine how stinky it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► is to have to worry about charging your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► computer every day and and got imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► how crummy it would be to have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► carry on like that like a brick that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► need to charge it that's like big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► heavy imagine you know for me I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► charge wherever I have a USB port and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► imagine how crummy it would be if any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► time I wanted to get on the internet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► ok yes i have a phone in my pocket but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► cellular switch and suddenly i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► Wi-Fi in the device amusing imagine how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► crummy it would be to not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► tear your keyboard off the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► because he just really don't need it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► know you're not gonna need it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► imagine how crummy it would be to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► one device every where you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► because it's this big computer and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► okay they're smaller than they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► be and there's certainly more portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► than they used to be but man it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► stink if I felt if I felt like I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► have this like big like laptop bag help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► barbaric is that what kind of pants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► actually I can't fit a mini in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► couple of my jackets not my pants but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► jackets but I just cars got got laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► in every pocket of all day but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► imagine imagine how boring it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► to have to use a mac every day when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► can just touch and swipe swipe your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► I'm being silly and i started the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► by saying I don't really know there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► ipad there if there's a place and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► absolutely understand how it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► possible to prefer an ipad for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► reasons I don't like it and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► the three of us are too preoccupied with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► our own needs and our own desires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► our own wats in and I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► plenty of people that are that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► would prefer an ipad pro be that a 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► inch or 12 inch or 9.7 what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► that that would prefer for all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► things and the teaching is an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► this and yes I acknowledge that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► like way on the other side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► spectrum but i don't think a lot of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► desires are that unusual to have an LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► equipped device to have only one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► to have to manage again like you Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► agree that the phone is just a given to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► have something where the software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► always the software he has it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► looks the same regardless of what yo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► it's because the device is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► it's a guy I feel like there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► advantages to living in ipad only life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► that are disadvantages to me their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► disadvantages to you too but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► sure and I think we're I think we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► dis all three of us are discounting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► there's plenty of real work that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► maybe not Cat maybe not development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► maybe video editing maybe not maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► podcast editing maybe not but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► lot of real work that can be done on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► and all the rumblings I've heard is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► things are going to get a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► interesting in the next few months so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► imagine what will be possible tomorrow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► don't think any of us are just coming at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► all that you have been listening to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► we've been talking specifically about hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► I'm we are we totally concede that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► vast majority were only talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► the ion that's all we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► but but my point is that your high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► it when you say high-end it it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► implies i'm trying to think how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► describe this I feel like you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► Building into me the high-end is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► mighty black stop and that Pete that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► there are people that came out that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► this analogy is falling apart already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► but I i think that you that you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► treating this mythical high-end is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► on it's about it doesn't matter if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► okay you're treating this high-end is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► accomplished by a single touch devices I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► no I'm not trying at all i'm saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► opposite i'm saying the ipad could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► totally do all this stuff Apple has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► yeah yeah i mean because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► hardware power is there the the will of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► people to want to carry an ipad into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► these things on it is there it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► really just a very strong problem of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► ipad OS really not being a advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► enough and and being too high friction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► for the way a lot of people want to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► and they like me anyways we will need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► work on the app store and upgrades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► you know and the hardware flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► the apples are making steps in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► direction remember they weren't making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► any steps and direction for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► and that was frustrating it was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► was static and but they say they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► characterize it there sporadic moves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► they move a little bit each time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► they hang out in between and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► move faster would be more dramatic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► you know we don't really if they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► choose whether to put the resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► behind the next iPhone or the next iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► like the iphone is movable yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► you're right somebody you know so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6238">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► knows maybe they will accelerate or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► whatever but like I'm heartened by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► kind of progress because it's as if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► a you know they cannot with the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► that was a weird trash can and I waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► a year and then they let you have 2 CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► view and waited a year and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► upgraded the GPU to be not really old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► and waited a year that's not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► essentially what we got if it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► than what we got so on the ipad where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► it's like oh finalists have multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► oh here's a pencil to and then wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► year like this is good this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► but it's not as good as it could be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► it's better than you know the high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► nope that's not a thing anymore just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► what we sell thanks to our sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► hello fresh audible and away we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6291">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► only research Margo and Casey would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► know today p dot and if your twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► so today scoop German has written a post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► saying that Apple well let me just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► the headline apple is said to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► Mac chip that would lessen Intel role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► and I think that actually has changed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► think it was a different headline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► earlier but integrates a the slug for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► the original headline Apple developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► independence which is certainly a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► more aggressive which is not true an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► inaccurate headline so that's why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► changed it but they never change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► slugs because people make terrible CMS's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► that don't let you change the slug or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► they do let you know never changes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► like the people i think people don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► you or else I know safari heightened by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► default but come on people anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► there's a delightful autoplay video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► that's going on here which is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► frustrating thing in the entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► but anyway the the article in short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► seems to say hey there's this t1 ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► that was done to power the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► that's arm-based what if you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► power nap for example there's this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► chip that apparently been codenamed t310 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► because that matters but anyway this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► this mythical t310 ship could handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► power nap and wake up and do those sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► of things then go back to sleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► because arm just zips power that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► be flawless and perfect so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► way forward is is we can slowly encroach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► on Intel's territory by making an ARM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► chip that's used when convenient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► then use the intel chip for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► other time so it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► premise it's certainly not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► that I really considered but i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► idea that I don't know if I really buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► that it would be flexible enough short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► of like virtualization should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► terrible idea and ruin most power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► savings that it would be flexible enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► to just do anything on this problem this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► mythical arm processor but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► maybe like via the extension framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► and I saw somebody else talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► earlier the extensions maybe could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► know have something have an extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► that's our compiled forearm and the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► of the app is compiled for until I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► know but it's certainly a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► idea and every sign that i can see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► of the tea leaves are pointing to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► at least exploring getting rid of Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► and using their own chips even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► not anytime soon so John what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► think there's a weird story because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► the chip that powers the touch bar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► its it sense it only makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► there will be a successor to that ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► generation things that maybe will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► little better in a bunch of waste like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► short granted and whatever that chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► code-named is fine and we already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► it's a little arm CPU and run some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► little mini thing of iOS and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► use it to do smart things when the intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► cpu is asleep right where the story gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► fuzzy is like alright so the power nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► stuff like first of all I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► that stuff your computer does when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► essentially a sleeping you're not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► it is a really big source of power draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► like like idle power people on your list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► anymore laptop reviews how long can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► leave this laptop asleep before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► battery trends like that's not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► not a very common use case like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► need to be able to leave it in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► for a week in sleep mode and come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► and have a hundred percent battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6538">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► well it's not gonna happen nobody even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► test that I and it's not a common use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► case know it does happen it's like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► it's like a month because what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► is after I think like eight hours or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► whatever if a vital time and I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► you can tweak that time out with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► kind of you know any ram command it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► into full hibernate mode like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► happen to do so even a full hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► battery string that's why you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► bring a test of fire island because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► you're a true friend that's why i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► ready i'm pretty sure that these the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► idle time has been about a month since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► like the 2012 retina macbook pro right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► but let's not use case they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► so we're putting a lot of investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► into making that use case even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► like who cares that's not a selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► point it's not a big thing you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► the second the idea that that this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► would be able to do the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► happens during power nap parent app like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► the computers basically asleep but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► wakes up the real live cpu periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► to do stuff in a lower clock lower power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► type way doesn't turn on the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► and doesn't turn on the fan in the cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► of modern computers with fans I think's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► right but it's still running the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► software in a limited capacity it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► has to be running something that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► ability to do I owe to the disk or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► know to the SSD essentially these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► due time machine backups if you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► I owe to the disk it i have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► believing that they would be an arm CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► in there they could not wake up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► intel cpu at all which is still the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► see Beauty system but wake up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► application to fetch mail and do I owe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► to your disk all the Intel CPU is asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► even if you're compiling extensions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► armed binaries and shipping them off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► the little arm CPU to run and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► that that little cpu is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► access to IO and it's a it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► weird situations like what are you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► optimizing for so it makes me look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► the story and think there's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► accessories t1 it is better and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► capable and will do more things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► perhaps listening for a sit-down my max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► like fiu Syria and the same way but will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► it do everything will do all that power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► nap stuff and third-party applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► to run arbitrary code in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► without waking the intel cpu I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► could something this is technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► impossible but it seems like that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► a use case that Apple we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► investing money in whereas I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► would invest money in you know making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► serie better or have it only listen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► always listening for stuff for have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► be able to do more sophisticated things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► having to do with the management the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► system but once it starts changing into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► actual applications running code whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► they be first part of your third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► without waking up the intel cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► doesn't seem like it's worth be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► hardware OS and software investment to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► make that work because the benefit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► not something you would sell about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► yeah i think this is this is a yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► another case where a rumor article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► that you know has good sourcing gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► probably the gist of the facts correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► but the story wrong it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► is not like Apple trying to reduce their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► depends on intelligence chip supplier it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► seems much more likely that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► well we are putting this chip in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► these machines for the touch bar anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► so we have this whole little embedded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► arm computer in these machines that uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► almost no power like work were included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► hardware anyway so can we have it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► anything else can we have it be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► useful than what it's doing now while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► the computer is not needing it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► anything else because its community we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► great stuff in here let's figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► they can if they can help us out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► other way i think it's probably gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► you know the facts here are plausible it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► is probably truly there to do very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► little power tasks what those low-power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► tasks include is another story and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► don't think this is at all indicative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► that Apple is slowly gonna cut Intel out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► and and make our max like they might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► doing that in the future who knows but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► don't think this is related to that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► it seems like a totally separate project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► or or task here because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► effectively utilizing the resources they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► already have in these computers and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► already building in any way and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► be such a technical challenge and such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► hurdle and so much complexity to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► this chip meaningfully take over lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► what the intel cpu is doing any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► like major application level thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► I think you mentioned you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► would be probably an extension and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► know that would be an arm extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► hey if it's successful third parties at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► all we were just the way Apple's App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► implanted it is probably like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► little extension kind of thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► native arm code that can run here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► John I share your concern about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► what does have access to the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► somehow like at how does that work how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► does how does the you know how does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► interact with or all the buses and Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► and write operations like it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► dual cpu system with two different CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► instructions that's what you get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► could you could do it like this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► technically possible but that's held an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► investment and I just don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► benefit right exactly so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► think it's more likely that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► real story but that the task is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► do we're going to be very very limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► it doesn't mean anything about Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► relationship with Intel for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► of possible our macbooks that is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► totally separate discussions and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► seems much more likely that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► mostly a non-issue something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► might mention in a keynote for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► seconds that we would immediately forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► about it could be headlining feature if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► they if they use it right so one example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► is you could do a Windows 10 style face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► recognition thing not to let you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► because that's terrible because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► computer but even just something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► simple as hey it's always listening for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► you and there's proximity detectors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► see when you're close by and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► sit down in front of your sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► computer it does face recognition with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► the camera to realize who you are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► bring you your login prompt like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► it was on a different user so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► have to like pick the user or do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► like that would be a good use of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► fairly capable a low-power cpu that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► access to some things as access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► camera has access to his own proximity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► detectors access to touch ID and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► secure Enclave and can do stuff with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► touch bar that doesn't involve okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► taking over power not to mention like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► the power nap the reason it works and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► works even better now is because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► make these intel cpu running super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► underclock great turning off most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► course like they're pretty efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► like a sky like in super duper low-power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► mode with half of the chip disabled is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► actually pretty good you can let like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► yeah the most of the power is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► be from your Wi-Fi radio trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► your time machine backup and all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► SSD access the cpu is not the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► there so even if you're going to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► you're not worried oh I can't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► intel cpu running it at 600 megahertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► with one core enable doing my thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► because the SSD and the Wi-Fi are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► to overall that anyway but but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► back to the little arm chip if that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► future i just described like face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► recognition proximity detection touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► blah blah thats that's a keynote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► keynote mobile feature right there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► it's not a big deal technically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6958">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► and they already have the hardware there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► it's an easy win it's a cool thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► something microsoft store already done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► apple can pretend they don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► and just pretend they invented it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► we'll all when AA and just like we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► sitting down to use touch ID to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► our computers we like sitting down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► shared environment having know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► us and wake from sleep and shows our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRvJtlw/6974">TS</a>]