Ep. 04: "Sears Would Call Me Husky"
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hi John how are you hi Marilyn I well uh
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I'm well I'm well I'm all you something
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I mean I've got less bad but i'm not
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completely well i'm i'm ninety percent
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better but that ten percent there's a
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lot of wiggle room in that ten percent
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like losing me his last 20 pounds so
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that again never heard that when people
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say they're trying to lose weight like
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last five pounds they say its last I
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don't know that might be one of those
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dumb things like you always find things
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last place you look
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I'm sure makes sense but they say you
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can lose a bunch of weight last five
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pounds of hearts for you
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that's the last mile was like that the
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last ten percent of sickness I could
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still turn it around and get pneumonia
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I could still turn this this almost
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better pneus into total catastrophic
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sickness so i have to be very careful at
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this point that I don't go do what my
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instinct tells me which is to run
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bareheaded in the rain in my underwear
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because i will get i will get pneumonia
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if i do that and that's what my instinct
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is telling me who is that it is an
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instinct you have a lot to that running
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around without clothes and no hat it is
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and that's why I don't that's why when
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people say follow your gut
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I say shut up my gut is telling me to do
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incredibly stupid things my gut always
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told me to fall in love with lesbians my
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god tells me to go out in the rain
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without a hat
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my gut tells me to eat all the pasta
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literally it's my gut that tells me to
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do that
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thank you I can't trust myself is what
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I'm saying I think you're guest probably
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seen too many things on cinemax where
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they make out lesbians and you think
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that is very attractive to me but then
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you realize that the person is not
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featured in the Cinemax movie
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consistently is you
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well it's your cinemax references and
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far off but in fact the lesbians i have
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traditionally fall in love with are the
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ones with short black hair and the
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faintest whisper of a mustache
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I don't I I'm not interested in in like
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12 year old boy a John Waters well
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somewhere in between a twelve-year-old
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boy and John Waters if John Waters was
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was a lot shorter and had kind of
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not-quite boobs but but lumps lady lumps
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I spent my entire spent my entire
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twenties chasing after girls that look
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like Jane Wiedlin from the go-go's and
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eighty-five percent of them were either
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gay or we're going through their gay
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phase at precisely the time that that
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that we were friends and they wanted to
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talk about their romantic problems with
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that's why I i think it's a big part of
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why I was an alcoholic the small
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breasted lesbians
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yeah the frustration caused by
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consistently falling in love with boyish
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girls they always they would always get
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me what you know I'm not to name names
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but that was named joanna pony there's
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this woman that was in spring the
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minders she was like an engineer on some
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Elliot's you're like a record seen yeah
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I know I know what you know her well in
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northwestern way sure like she's made
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you drink nod ya not smirk that she
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became Jim Whelan was obviously in the
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in the substrata of the the short-haired
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lesbian cosmology she was quite a
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constellation but when I saw her playing
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with the minders I i had to go it was
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just she's ridiculously skinny and
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long-armed mhm you know and she
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engineered elliott smith record so you
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know but man she can play that base and
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she's very very tall see they all play
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the base to the base and the tattoos
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right that is it all goes together
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the the base the tattoos the short hair
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often pierced nipples follow along with
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that if you get to that point piercing
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nipples no never did but like on her how
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she tells it just educated gas pumps in
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the hipster t like how can you tell well
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I you know I am NOT new right I've been
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I've lived I've seen what's under the
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t-shirts so it went so far as she said
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I'm going to step off the reservation
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Kemosabe
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and so you talking about now wow just
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just our girl just the girls the girls
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the yeah you know tight the thing but it
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seems your comment Pixies because
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they're like Angry Pixies right Pixies
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yeah right Pixies pic Pixies but spelt
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with a bunch of ours in the middle
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picture sarees that's good or have a
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Pixies with many x's Pixar's six months
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just calling Pixar's pretty good that's
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what they are
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um yeah you know because they're because
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of some of them aren't gay that's the
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frustrating thing the ones that don't
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just only gay phase that coincides with
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you trying to get with them i think i
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think a lot of girls just had a gay
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phase for the 20 minutes that I was
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trying to pick up with them pick up on
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I mean for I think for a lot of them
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it's it's like being in the whole wheat
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pasta or throwing muses it's something
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you put yourself into completely for a
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couple weeks but like I gotta live with
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that now I don't got nothing against
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throwing muses but no sense memories
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well you know I'm just saying like you
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know my record was not the one getting
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dropped on the needle if you know what I
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mean yeah and allison i spent so much of
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my life being in that state sometimes
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because of pixies often because of a
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kind of like a like a vaguely athletic
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girl with a good family
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those are bad too those are very good
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chance you have a chance
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there there there dad makes them laugh
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you have a chance i know that's the
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worst when a girl has a really great
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relationship with her father
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fuck that and he also is like a rich
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lawyer I don't know what I call those
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the cockblock docs anytime you get an MD
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that's funnier than you
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Oh Hawking his daughter right right
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about the mexican dr. well see that's
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why that's why i was i always had
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tremendous success with girls that have
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very conflicted feelings about their
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that though that's like that's like
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getting pre-qualified for a loan for
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coming for me I was fine i was going
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through the wall and stuff i was trying
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to always figure that out
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birth control pills check
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antidepressants boo ya no se the house
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tape we're good
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I waited till he went to the bathroom
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and I tried to read their journal before
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they were before they that I could hear
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them washing their hands i put their
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journal back I was like smelling ladies
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purses and again i really have it with a
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while ago like a personnel another purse
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never smelled a purse and a person's
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that it smells like a like a cow's udder
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and that's bad how
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haha i know i I don't want to smell the
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girl's purse that's like that's like
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that's like smelling her insider pockets
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while her pants are still on kind of
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pants mom jeans it's like smelly inside
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of a pair of mom jeans ok like bending
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down and smell it take a big with of the
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pockets of some mom jeans not something
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I want to do i'm guessing there's
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probably some squished up tissues some
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from their children's not many from her
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in tears i'm only produce giant keys you
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have our minivans now write a huge ring
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of keys the keys have to be that big
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really irks me I've been there though
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I've been there I've been there so many
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times and I feel like there's so many
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times where I was I the just friends we
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can talk to about the problems with
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people talking about the nineties now
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yeah and I think times have changed I
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mean times have definitely changed that
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they called hookups now the hookups you
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can get me yeah they sent making
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pictures to each other on their phones
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in the nineties it was just a it was a I
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don't know it was a it was a terrible
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time it was a terrible time to be a
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young person it looks good
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didn't even look good Who am I kidding
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now the nineties were just we should
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just let's just never speak of them
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I knew it I knew I know how useless I
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was it like when we graduated from
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microphone college in 1990 and it was it
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was like that all people have been
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classes before it's done all these
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amazing things they've done things on
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campus they didn't think nationally
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internationally the fulbright scholars
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and then there's a four years that i was
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there i think i had a big effect on this
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and then like the year after i left
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suddenly everybody was doing things to
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help you
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fireman and getting good people good
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people and getting good grants they're
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way smarter than us and I think that was
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the problem
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I i blame us I think we're a big part of
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the problem you know and I i blame all
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your buddies up there you you gave you
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your euro your community gave the world
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the wrong idea about everything terrible
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we were terrible and when we were
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anywhere we were terrible people to have
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to say really like the worst of like
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what like la metes slacker air austin
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there wasn't anything la about it was it
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was a it was just a take any small town
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and take the 10 losers that are hanging
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out under a bridge Smith smoking clove
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cigarettes and and that and then play
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them some dinosaur jr records and that
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they're there you have it there that the
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Seattle seen in 1992 the thing that
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frustrates me is that my holy my whole
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youth the fashion was to wear really
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baggy on tailored ripped dirty clothes
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and I remember walking across the
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university of washington delivered to us
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literally that's using choosing over
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other options to acts like a good the
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girls it when I was 24 a girl could not
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be more fashionable than if she took a
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sleeping bag cut armholes in it and roll
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in some manure you know that was the
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that was it man
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oh my god she's so like an organic
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ground snuggie huh
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but somewhere around 2,000 i was walking
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across the university of washington
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campus and i looked around and i
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realized everybody was wearing clothes
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that fit i was it that was it
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furious was like why are people wearing
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clothes that fit now I i would have
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liked this I would have liked to have
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seen these all these people's bodies
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it was nice clothes when I was a young
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man he had it yet and have x-ray vision
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to know you know everybody i remember
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going to the thrift store and and i'm
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looking through the extra large section
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because I'm an extra-large person and I
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look around everybody standing around me
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is 5 foot 6 and 130 pounds and I'm like
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you people get out of here this
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is the extra large section it is it
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ironic mustache 20 years before the
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first acceptable ironic mustache
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it looked great on you this blonde
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the problem Q this is not a problem for
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very large man like you is like you just
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people that had to and we think we've
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the part that wasn't a beard right if
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they grow big ass beer they would the
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comb-over waiting for that thing to grow
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pinching the low for em
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exactly exactly hope the mustache group
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mustaches gonna find one of these
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wearing REM shirt and which I know you
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enjoy that are using that funny that
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yeah I feel I I feel like whatever I
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could say about REM has been said so
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eloquently you said that in your to it
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sorry I'm cutting off but you had a
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great talk about that where you just
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you I'm affected them right but here I
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oh my god senor wences died you know
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what you want and wikipedia that so you
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train on Twitter like you know I want to
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do anything which is I'm gonna go find
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people who are almost dead that you
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should learn to appreciate and so you
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can like pretty more in them by like
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actually learning what they did before
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the day you heard something on google
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it's kind of what happens with ari I
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something like 14 years or something
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like he's pals with them in like he had
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a legitimate reason to like changes
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twitter icon and stuff like that i mean
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you know he's pretty good passes hammond
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and they meant the world to him and and
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now they're gone and did you see that
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picture of Todd Barry Barry posted a
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picture of himself
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standing there with you know with the
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peter buck and mike mills and it's
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amazing because you recognize Todd right
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much younger person and then but Peter
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iconographic look it is mike mills and
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peter buck in 1984 like you recognize
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know him their hair it is like it's like
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a it's like a picture off the back of
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their record except somehow like a
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teenage Todd berries in the picture it
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for Todd Barry immeasurably morning is
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your photo on the robot that you had a
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bloop hit the robot what we'll see now
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what I didn't realize about this podcast
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real time that I could have gone and
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looked at and increased my but we were
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having a multimedia experience where you
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were sending me things through skype and
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I kept hearing things good grip
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mhm and I would look at my computer and
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configure your heart monitor i was like
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what are you doing what are you trying
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to tell me are you beeping at me for
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some reason and then later on I would
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close all the windows out and then I
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would see all this is a metadata that
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you were sending me about the
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conversation we were having in real time
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utilizing the computer and i'm not using
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utilizing my brain the way Merlin is
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1987 in what I can only describe as let
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me let me just give it give it to your
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top to bottom mhm mullet that's not a
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molecule must it's a bullet has its much
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fuller on the sides in a mullet John
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mustache
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description of a mullet is
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does the hair is the hair in the front
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above the ear and I think we can say yes
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uh I see the ear is the hair in the back
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touching the shirt check answer yes
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Aaron front above the ear hair back
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touching the shirt Mullins sticking up
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ah well see that's the Merlin look right
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you've got the porcupine I can't control
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that John Cena making fun of my greater
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you cut the mustache which is great
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you've got the Merlin shit-eating grin
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put this in 1987 because there's nothing
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in the background to indicate this is
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1987 try this could be taken yesterday
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indicate this is 97 one long sleeve
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t-shirt which is long sleeve t-shirt
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shirt i'm guessing that that said life's
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wow it doesn't really hmm I was going to
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doctor Zog sex wax is a lightning
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middleman and then ok with other faggots
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lightest powder-blue monte carlo these
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they're completely uniformly almost
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those were bought pre faded probably
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mostly my first year and I am I think I
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at the county seat to max make them
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extra light when you wash them
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eyes are not good something you might be
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missing if you're looking very carefully
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i'm wearing a friendship bracelet i had
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woven yeah I wouldn't have seen them
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yeah there it is i see the little tail
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of it sticking out
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that's nice but yeah your women you know
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that sorry I made a bunch of them
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sure but a friendship bracelet is
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something that someone leaves and then
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gives to you I didn't find that out
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until I like I moved away so you made
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yeah I also cooked myself dinner a lot
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yeah well it seems very important at
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that age to be a friend here
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happy birthday no way now but there's
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that says Merlin with tragic facial hair
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that's tragic I've been good it's you
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know it's a little bit bare old flim
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don't want this too much for sending you
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seen some of these but i just want to
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refresh your memory on this one this one
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pretty proud of myself this one and Eric
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Bostrom how about I drama of giving you
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guys yeah yeah
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here I go I wish that the the audience
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at home but i'm putting shot somebody
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lysine right you can listen to this and
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be clicking through oh my goodness
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yeah Oh tonight YMCA in New York
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holy moly yeah well again the genes have
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the genes they simply look like she did
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you want to a bleep storm 2832 the meat
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puppets t-shirt to create any purpose
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t-shirt if you've got some it's kind of
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same mustache you can see that for our
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project we got the avocado you stick the
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think my avocado was never did that
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ever told me to flip i think there's a
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explains everything
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I never was able to get those to grow
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had a meat puppet shirt I had no you
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ready for this you know this is this is
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how bad I was oh I don't think I've ever
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admitted this should admit this military
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du songs but I saw people wearing who
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screwed shirt so I bought one
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the first well camp chronic town like
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the first four RM records
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I don't come back to this because i
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had a I had my chest t-shirts I was a
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total poser John I was a terrible post
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had a circle jerk shirt I was a mess
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yeah complete poser I understand that
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you want to be with you in seattle
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european street seattle this point right
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almost i was still kinda i'm still
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bopping around 28 do in Alaska like
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pictures of like fucking clues and pipe
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went on in Alaska is out this was that
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that was the area that I was sort of
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hitchhiking around America looking for
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looking for my lost country just like
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that averaged over troubled water saw a
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little bit its yeah it was i I was
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influenced by the pretenders to go find
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some interesting that was I to find a
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river that was on fire
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yeah and I went and looked around and it
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had it was it had been gone a long time
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there were just a few there just a few
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drags left hanging on always going to
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look for America spend a couple of years
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looking good for you think out there
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what you discover
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yeah yeah Stuckey's pretty good
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Stuckey's pecan logs know that you know
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that was during the era that if you were
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driving a foreign car in certain parts
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of America that people would try and run
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you off the road
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oh yeah i mean they're the that was that
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there were some rust belt experiences
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that I don't think anyone would believe
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if I told them you kids do not know how
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real that was these kids that do not
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I'll tell you another thing that a lot
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of people don't know and this this
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sounds jokey but definitely this in
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fairly recently a lot of people who
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think we can kind of get why they did
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that but have you not known older people
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who would not buy a Japanese car and
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would definitely not by a German car
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oh and have you I know them i mean i
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have a tiny not because BMW for
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douchebags
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I mean I mean like toe-to-toe with me
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and screamed at me for writing in an
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Audi right yeah that was real that was
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real stuff that's you know those were
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the times when I have never got the
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folks and there's a great commercial
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whoever such-and-such whoever didn't
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forget you did but there's that famous
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you know a campaign when they launched
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the the bug but you know those are those
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of you that was a Nazi car was a good
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Nazi car the bottom
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thanks for detectives alright the
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original design was that it was was a
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check it was a checar the first
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rear-engined air-cooled little of
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people's car was it it was made by a was
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made in the Czech Republic and the
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German stolen ferdinand porsche ripped
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it off are you still there i am not
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listed and no I'm just imagining tanks
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rolling into that the Czechoslovakian
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factory all know that this is before
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they stole it before they started during
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peacetime they thought it was
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intellectual theft rather than actual
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nazi were stealing your art theft they
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covered the waterfront there was a
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lawsuit before the war the the check car
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makers actually seed Ferdinand Porsche
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for stealing their design and then
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Germany invaded czechoslovakia and while
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the lawsuit just went away so but anyway
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you're right it was hard too hard too
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hard to find a lawyer
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it was really hard to find a lawyer to
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try that case at the time we should move
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um yeah I never would have had good luck
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with girls
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so we're back to that well let me know
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you know what we should drop that it's
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just it's it's just such a legacy of
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pain and even when it did work out it
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didn't work out I know what the fuck I
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was thinking the whole time I couldn't
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you know what I could have been good in
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school i think i could I got really good
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grades up until like the eighth grade I
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you know I whatever like on I had like
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straight days until i was in like eighth
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grade I went to Florida they put me in
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consumer math and a and and then girls
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wearing very tight pants and there's
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already Speedwagon it was very confusing
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yeah yeah and I don't think I adapted
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well to that and don't think I've ever
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come out of it
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I don't think you could have done well
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in school Merlin hmm i think that you
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are a special breed of person who needed
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a mentor you should have had an adult
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male who took you out like so like
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Scoutmaster and she has Scoutmaster who
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showed you the way and unfortunately now
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we're were as a nation were so panicky
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about pedophiles that we don't let Scout
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masters take young impressionable men
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because there are some social good Scout
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masters that there are some of us who
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just needed a Scoutmaster and I'm
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certainly one although i don't think i
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needed a Scoutmaster as much as what I
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needed was a graduate student
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who was who was a you know good at
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I just like to note for the record I'm
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gonna put this on card that i would
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appreciate that you have tone that down
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because I believe your exact quote for
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ah as early as i want to say 2004
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repeated several times over the years
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was that actually what I need is quote a
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really good ass-kicking i think you said
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it know what's funny is I at the time
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because I'm because i don't have a
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strong father figure in my life I think
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I thought you were playing a mean thing
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but now I realize you were trying to
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help me and you see you're trying and I
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don't think you necessarily offering to
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do it unless I got talking but but it
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was clear that i think he said I should
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say in your own words because you
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probably remember or something along the
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lines of there's nothing wrong with you
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could not be solved and it might have
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been a couple good ass-kicking there
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might have been something where there
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had to be some follow-up like a second
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visit to the the thing is when I first
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met you you were you are much more
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sensitive than you are now I know I
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wasn't either
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yes you think you were I think the
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Internet has cauterized you a little bit
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at you you know i would say things like
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Merlin you meet somebody should have
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kicked your ass a long time ago and and
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it's not too late
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yeah haha you would start you would get
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a look on your face and like I had like
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you know like I had pulled a lot out of
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nose hair or something you would get
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this like ter too terrible look on your
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face like I said something mean well you
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will you John you're like you're like a
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conscience and incontinent mastiff but
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probably like you have like four
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incontinent massive it's just going to
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be a breaking-in period right I'm going
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to move some things in the house you can
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have to make some arrangements for the
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rugs sure and I think for a lot of
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people are going to be a little bit
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scared about the giant fucking dogs move
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your little crystal figurines up to a
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higher shelf i think the reason our
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relationship if I may say continues to
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grow and thrive is that is that I i yes
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is that you I had some accommodations
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well yes yes you know what yes yes and
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today i'll just say fail now but the
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thing is I don't think one ass-kicking
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would be sufficient think you know just
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starting to scare me
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but it wouldn't sink it you need the
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first ass-kicking going to shop your
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shop and I went missing girl up in the
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corner holding your knees and say yyyy
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and it's only the second ass-kicking
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where it would really you know if you
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know where you would really get that the
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information that you need it turned out
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whatever turns out I was like like Paul
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cool hand luke right whatever it turned
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out that the more you did me a tough
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ride ended up being you knocking down
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your dragline you say don't get up and
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then I get up hit me again i keep
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getting up
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I think it's exactly like that except i
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wouldn't get up made right you wouldn't
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get up and pointed ends up dead in that
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movie and that's when he don't know that
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for sure
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yeah I think that's a good movie we put
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him in the car and I don't think they
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get to get him to the hospital like
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nothing I've never seen that movie i'm
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just i'm and i think all the guys in rem
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wearing a cool hand luke t shirt and
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Diane Diane old dad we're going to
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husker du at all not really that's not
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your that's not your cup of tea
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no here's the thing with who's gonna do
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and the Minutemen and the meat puppets
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you know that's my era right i was i was
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right I was right there for all of that
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and I i just didn't it did not connect
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with me nor dinosaur dinosaur he's like
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a nice junior it with you're shitting me
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dinosaur jr thousand times and here's
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the problem i'm up i want to hear a pop
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vocal all come on dinosaur jr. I don't
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get it I don't think he sounds like he's
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he sounds like he's trying to drown
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himself in a toilet
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you're telling me you're telling oh boy
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you know what on right thumb puts a card
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it's gonna be the things we don't talk
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about going to go on the SST man's
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Stevens okay well first of all for i
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love never mind the bollocks because
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it's got a because it's it's fine it's
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got our ankle
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well you know the thing is the thing
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people remember about it was all the
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malcolm mcdowell was named Malcolm
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Ronnie McDowell emotional right a great
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Randy rowdy Piper was there was their
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manager right Malcolm Gladwell model and
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well-managed them knocking nobody
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remembers that that's that's all that I
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disagree retroactive that's like that's
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like all the people in 1994 saying how
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pumped they were in 1986 i was around in
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1986 and nobody was fucking pump
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yeah there were you could count the
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punks on two hands in any city and he
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didn't like them they're unlikable the
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puncture on likable than turds yeah but
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in 1994 oh my god everybody had a
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picture of how pumped they were and it
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was usually a picture that they had
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taken it was a picture of them at
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Halloween dressed as a punk and they
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took the picture and they took a sharpie
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and they sharpie'd out the people on
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either side of them dressed like Batman
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I'm heard from burger king and they were
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like and and the sharpie on the picture
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just made it look more punk and then
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they thumb tack it up on their wall and
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it's them with a shaving cream mustache
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perennials shaving cream boho right put
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about shaving their made their hair to
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walk in there like I was so pumped in
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1985 I used to get my ass kicked all the
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no punks in 1986 you I mean unless you
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lived in Baltimore which I didn't they
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are in quincy there were there were
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there were 30 punks in America 30 punks
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wrong but it's a very interesting point
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three hundred bucks who station
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why the growth ghost code we had
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something our high school called punk
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rock day as part of homecoming
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might have actually posted one of them
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here this is me with my dad oh no God no
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I i see i wanna come back to this job
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because there's more salient point
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salient point how do you say it because
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you don't say it you don't sit there is
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a more salient point you don't like
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salian no I wouldn't say salad sailing
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and troubling is a saw Squatch and
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everyone correctly and says it's
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pronounced sasquatch
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I don't know that's like a jam is I've
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been living in a Washington for many
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many years I grew up in the northwest
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I say Sasquatch and I believe that that
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is how it should be pronounced whether
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that is the pronunciation or not I
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cannot say but I think that's how it
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should be pronounced oh yeah punk rock
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day with you that they look at that it's
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33 cheerleaders who were they wearing
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what are they waiting when they were
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going through wearing garbage but they
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weren't garbage bags and skinny ties
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garbage bags and skinny talking about
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the head one got a hair on the side a
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little bit that's pretty punk writes got
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the side ponytail the other than that
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the middle girl has a has a headband and
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she has she has girl jeans let would buy
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with the skinny belt for young people
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who didn't we weren't wearing pants in
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the eighties I wish we had a girl I wish
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you'd been more girls not wearing pants
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in the eighties were wear blue jeans but
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cut for a woman's figure out which I
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like any tina fey style mom jeans yeah
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they were very high waisted they make
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your ass look like a pair that had been
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sitting in a place on the pleats the
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plates were terrible although everything
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it bleaches then the girl on the left
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has got some she's got her dad
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sunglasses on and it looks like a chain
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belt around her Barbie probably from a
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good we'll see 1983
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I mean I was there mhm mhm you would you
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throw some vans on that a painter's cap
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yeah but in terms of people who are
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actually actually punk rock who are
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actually practicing punk rock as a as a
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lifestyle has a belief system
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I'm afraid
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that I'm afraid that the numbers have
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been incredibly inflated over the years
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and this is the problem with the sex
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pistol story at the time nobody knew
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nobody knew that the sex pistols war
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that's all retro active over smartness
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everybody's like oh I do you think it
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sounds gay
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I knew he was gay the whole time no you
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did not
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nobody knew rap rob halford we talked
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ourselves out of a lot of things we
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should have known John don't you think
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well there was so much we should have
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green manalishi era I mean like wow talk
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about what we should have known we
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should have known that the Russians
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weren't a threat and that there was
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never gonna let me think about what my
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entire life was preparing my whole
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nuclear warhead for nuclear war that was
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my single biggest fear I was terrified
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yeah and it never happened I feel like
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you remember that I was that the day
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after all that man i was i had the right
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i was reading books about it and I knew
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there was no chance I I knew I mean like
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the best I could hope for was going to
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be to die slowly from burns because no
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matter where you were they show you this
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maps with the concentric circles like
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here in Chicago don't worry about it
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you're good and dead sure your vaporizer
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man chicago but somewhere like a like if
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you're near Fort Bragg or whatever game
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don't worry about do your paper you're
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right you're totally right i i i think
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okay now I know this is a joke that
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already spoon is made a song but did you
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ever see the quincy punk episode
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have you ever seen that i have seen the
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Quincy is pretty famous pretty hilarious
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its kind is this if there were I wish
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there was some kind of mind map diagram
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for this because I in my head you got
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nicolas cage and valley girl you've got
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the quincy punk episode you got fast
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times at ridgemont high maybe a little
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well but but the the real key to
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understanding this era is the punk-rock
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guys that appear in every Charles
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Bronson oh right right where Charles
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Bronson is walking across a parking
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garage at night and in the end son
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little Punk's literal pump yes somebody
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and suddenly you hear somebody go and
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ruin that chilled goes up the back of
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your neck
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what about the baseball furies whether
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whether punks in the Warriors they're
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kinda like Punk's they're kinda like
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what rocky horror picture punch remember
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the baseball furies the guy that just
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like just in mind they look like the
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Yankees yeah that one count
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no not well I mean it's that's a little
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glam i have a canonical example here if
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I can find it on the YouTube to remember
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remember the stage band here these
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pictures are really really great
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yeah um everybody has the everybody in
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this picture has their hair parted right
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down the middle straight out where where
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it was like what was that kind of bread
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where they they advertised it that they
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had butter the butter split-top bread
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butter top brass sure that everybody's
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hair looks like a loaf of butter top
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bread em back into that Qatar cost $150
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name sleeveless shirt what is that a
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squire mouseover it's a similar similar
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it's a it's sort of like and even hail
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internet explorer into a fake v this
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kind of look like that but what I see
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what you're saying it's a mess it's a
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mess i'm gonna send you something
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youtube you can watch if you want but
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you don't have to be get the idea i'm
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not gonna do it right now this issue
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just all this amount of multimedia is
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already understand my point you get your
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assistant the scene in Terminator first
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Terminator movie when a Schwarzenegger
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lands and they still naked and you get
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so minutes by Punk's right remember who
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the head punk was no bill paxton no yeah
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Jack's taxed you know III has anybody
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ever pointed out the the resemblance
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between you and Bill Paxton oh I'm sorry
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I've had a nerve now not till now
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oh my god I always kick backs to confuse
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with the other guy who's the other guy
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well now the guy who's a good husband
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and dumb and dumber was one guy who
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looks like me and dumb and dumber the
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other guy Bill Paxton and jeff daniels
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now it's not home so I cannot help
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accident or just against Jeff Daniels
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he's pretty good
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yeah so I want my point being John
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you're absolutely correct i want to say
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terminator i want to say 1984 is that
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right Lois Terminator I'd say 84 nothing
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gets the cool that's where he gets the
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cool leather jacket that he wears for
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the rest of the film
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yes maybe kills the punk rocker
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terminator 1984 film by james cameron we
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got a full of himself
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boy that guy okay good i could see
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crimes my gears that guy i love this
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this mugshot of you at the taking of the
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Sarasota Police Department you like that
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one you know I i tried to get the
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mugshot taken me by the Boulder County
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Sheriff's Department will give it to you
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similar area and make here's what they
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said we had a we had a fire and it
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burned down the courthouse and all of
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our records were lost i believe that and
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I said come on that's some kind of that
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some kind of like you want to make me
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believe in black helicopters me a story
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like that I've had other people other
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friends my went to the same police
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station you want to comment on this i'm
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just going to do for fun
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hi i am of my friends that went to try
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and do the same thing they said no way I
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went in there and they gave me two
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copies gratis free of charge walked out
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with mugshots i have a tie-dye t-shirt
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and cold sore
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yeah and get the hair that you you call
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a mullet and that um I want to come back
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to something here i wish i could find my
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mug shots hear about those were men have
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been arrested
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have I been arrested John here's the
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thing I I don't talk about this publicly
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but not there's an implied third
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realization things I never asked you
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about that I always wanted to ask you
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about so maybe in the future i will ask
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you about them there many things are
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there are many things i would love to
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ask you about I not because I'm scared
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and not because i think you're scared to
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talk about it but there are many things
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that you don't talk about much anymore
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that I very interested in yeah he told
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me about your teeth one day and and I
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almost fell off my chair
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yeah that's a terrible story it's a
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terrible story but these are great
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stories and this is why you're Charles
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Nelson Reilly you should be on shows
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talking about this terminals and riley
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is four foot eleven i think you passed
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Charles Nelson Reilly was 4 foot 11 mm
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yes a pretty big glasses just for
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tourists you did I mean he was it was
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obviously a polymath but but you're
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comparison
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your constant comparison to me it's like
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when people compare me to Bruce Vilanch
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my crystal ants is a very funny man i
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appreciate right appreciate if you mean
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that as a compliment but Bruce Vilanch
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is a that he has these trays control
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he's looking at all
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he looks like a pile of ectoplasm with a
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with like an emo Philips wig on
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don't compare me to Bruce Vilanch and
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and i have to say the same but Charles
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Nelson Reilly when you want to you want
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to compare me to somebody like I mean if
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you want to compare me to Paul Newman
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but it's exactly the kind of thing
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Charles Nelson rallies to do is forever
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correcting people who he should be
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compared to now he did not like being
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compared to Clifton Webb because he
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thought Clinton have seemed a little gay
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i'm now I Bruce flange it's kind of what
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other gays would get all Mary about the
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closet laughter seriously think about
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Bruce Vilanch is that he has so much
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cone and it and it has so much
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there's so much extra flesh around his
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would slap him in the face more than
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George Lucas will see George Lucas what
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George Lucas has is that he had he has
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no face architecture returns knowledge
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here if he didn't have that beard you're
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saying that oh my god I've I'm sorry to
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interrupt but I just realized you just
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made me realize he has if he would go
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straight dewlap to mouth Gibby I don't
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get from from the bottom of his nose to
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his Adam's apple
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nothing there but am I literally look
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like Jabba the Hutt just sort of
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error of thinking that you can this is
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the andrew dice clay error which is as
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your face falls apart you make you
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delineate where the face once was
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by cutting your beard in more and more
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angular shapes and it absolutely doesn't
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work what you need to do as your face
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falls apart is just let your beard grow
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into a huge bushy thing and then nobody
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can see what's underneath it that
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self-awareness it's like a light you can
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like you're gonna run toward Ty Cobb
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after he hits the ball now you follow
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the ball not the batter right that's
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be the ball see the ball be the ball the
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ball Danny to Latin you do not want you
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do not want to try and fool people into
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thinking you have a face by cutting your
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beard into like a helmet strap that's
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what George Lucas looks like he's
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wearing a hair helmet that's held on
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with a beard strap it but you know the
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way he said yes and he knows enough
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about all of that stuff he has ruined
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enough movies he's killed enough faces
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look Carrie Fisher Fisher beautiful
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woman looks like Bozo the Clown in the
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first Star Wars movie beautiful woman he
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knows what a face should look like
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theoretically he has people that could
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give him photos and maybe some notes he
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literally every day he makes the
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decision to have his dewlap stick out
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from underneath his beard you saw him
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from the side he would look like a
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boomeritis he would be a large South
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this is why this is paul allen's problem
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to their riches one that's one of
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poland's problems they have a rich
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enough that they surround themselves
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with people who agree with them that
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this is not a I'm not I'm not telling
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you anything you don't know but it's not
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just the base around themselves with
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people who agree with them they
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completely exclude anyone who even
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raises their eyebrows even so the
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suggestion of somebody who might say hey
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uh that tie is I don't know who that guy
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is out like he is it that he comes to
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the next door and his security card
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won't work anymore you know what I mean
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like he can't even he can't even use the
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restroom
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there's already a security guard
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standing there
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a milk crate with his desk contents and
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he's escorted out of the building you
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see you're talking about you talk about
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Paul Allen specifically as it as an
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analogous thing for George Lucas your
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time you look you look at Paul Allen you
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go Paul your ear like the fifth richest
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man in the world
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why are you first of all why are you
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wearing parti-colored Dockers and second
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of all I mean really the Portland
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Trailblazers but third of all
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yeah it just seems like you don't get
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many librarians paul allen has on staff
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apollon employees like nine people just
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to be his librarians busy no need dental
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hygienist my Christ are you looking at a
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picture huh
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I mean I know I don't even Seattle I
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used to I used to drink coffee I used to
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drink coffee and used to smoke em so I
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understand teeth stains but my goodness
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bility galaxies from Yorkshire not a
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good way i have to stop talking about
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Paul and because of that because he'd
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crush our is gonna go off in my
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apartment my house here in a second and
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the black helicopters gonna wake up with
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an amp head in your bed you know what
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I'm that's kind of funny if you really
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think about it for a second you walk
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wake up wake up with a like a fender
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yeah instead of a horse's head right now
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you're not explaining your jokes pretty
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good i wanna talk about us to that's on
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my list and I got a lot of stuff on the
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list i'm talking about Ames oh gosh they
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all talk about it well we should close a
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couple threats you but i still i want to
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just keep in mind as a lot of things I
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want to talk about case so we got Paul
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Allen did you get the thing with the the
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Lucas picture you know George Lucas grew
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if you just let his neck hair grow then
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you would think wow what a lustrous
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beard and you would realize that that
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that that that wasn't a beard that it
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was all that it was all flesh
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hmm and it just had a coating of hair
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honor you not getting this all about you
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but i'm thinking i'm gonna look this up
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i think you in that December's video and
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I don't know if you professionally curl
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your hair beard well handsome pictures
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how it came
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wow that's what your beard was doing
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then that's just what it would do if I
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if I if I'd if I let my beard grow for
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six months that's what it would do
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help so that's that's six months
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appeared for you
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this is a circumstance where I don't do
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anything but I don't where I don't know
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2005 my gosh look at that guy
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um I'm gonna put this in the notes i
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couid i'm thinking if if George Lucas
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grew a beard like that right yeah I as
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you know John I'm not an architect but
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my thinking is this disguise is a lot of
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the problems it gives his face shape
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which is nice he doesn't have that right
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there is no CGI four faces yet uh but it
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also conceals the fact that there's a
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big thing under there
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they don't know what could be under
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there you know it could be it could be a
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like an unnecessary rat and mouse Isley
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you never know we don't think about
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George Lucas's faces he has a nice face
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it's just that it's sitting on top of a
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beanbag chair it's a phase that sitting
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on is that sitting on like what you
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don't remember those remember those
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ashtrays remember being back a strange
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you were supposed to like use when you
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were driving to work in your earlier and
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that jeep cherokee or in bed
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mhm he hit his face looks like like a
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nice face sitting in a beanbag gas tank
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made us he was actually a try to find
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old when he was actually super cool
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looking at wedding day long
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oh yeah but we were all super cool
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looking well be accepted
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I'm just mhm I'm just saying like giving
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the Delta like this is this is a guy I'm
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send you one of this is a horrible show
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this is a person sending John pictures
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from the internet
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yeah that's not gonna show ever figured
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out that i could look at these brown I'm
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gonna put them all shown it's because
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this is an important point but a lot of
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people listen to this podcast on their
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iPads iPods yeah while they're driving
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in their cars and they're gonna be like
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I can't see these pictures this is
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annoying
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it's an important point to be made here
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now iÃve been accused by many of my
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well by the people-to-people 23 people i
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know that i talk too much about Star
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Wars and grocery stores so I'm gonna
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stop except to say I'm a quote my friend
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Maya another one of my friends named
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John who says a
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yeah he's calling somebody from Twitter
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here but somebody saying that basically
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Star Wars has become for George Lucas
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what Joan Rivers his face is for joan
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rivers and that makes have thought that
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was brilliant to begin with em because
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why because you can't you can't see that
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these changes are not helping right yeah
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you can't stop fucking with it and it's
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not helping right nobody around you is
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going to go and knock that off right you
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should turn your creativity towards
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something outside of yourself i think i
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think george lucas me have the same
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problem with his head he's got his
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blindness he's got to that blindness he
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does he doesn't matter and we all we all
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develop blindness is about ourselves I
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mean I'm sure when I look in the mirror
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I see i have i have a kind of a
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dysmorphia I think this is a common
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problem for people who aren't
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billionaires who are surrounded by yes
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men we developed a dysmorphic the view
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of ourselves where we look in the mirror
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like for instance I look in the mirror
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and I say I am fat and has this
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dysmorphic out i am fat and and although
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I'll at one level
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yes I am hi i am well i think the word
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make the word that sears would use is
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husky series would call me husky i'm a
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i'm a largely I'm bomb a large have a
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large frame
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mm you wish i was i say you're big and
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I'm big and tall but but really I'm not
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fat like I don't I don't you don't want
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all your very dignified and thank you
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that's nice of you to say okay but IDK
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yourself well John I'm height weight
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proportionate I mean I'm a big man let's
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not go nuts
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height weight proportionate you wouldn't
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say I was HW p it but if you were
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writing if you were writing a personal
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ad for me food and he didn't want to lie
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yeah you wouldn't say HW can see just a
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husky swm white male the correct single
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letter that's right your mail right um
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more of me to love a basement full of
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eyeglasses your kid and flatulence
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problems
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well in my dream date problem not a
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problem no it's an opportunity think
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that's right it's a good some freshman's
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opportunity
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yeah my old guy people who are into it I
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I am I so many so many thrust close here
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we don't worry i saw you have
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leaders that died
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Kirsten big designer named you know the
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wonderful hilarious women for siren life
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she's the star and she's this just
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fantastic character but like the whole
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anytime I want anything involving single
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people i just say to myself you know
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what I say I'm very happy to be in a
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good relationship with a good person but
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be I guess I just couldn't stand having
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relationship and then wanting a
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relationship and going through all of
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that stuff that the really singles ads I
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just not for other people that works for
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some people for me
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ah i can't imagine how they could
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possibly turn out well yeah but there's
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also reporting the other people should
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have to write those ads for you
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well yeah but I mean if you had somebody
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write a a useful signal singles ad about
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you you wouldn't be single
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well I think of it this way i don't know
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if you guys I met you guys have the car
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smoking thing up there you get your car
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smog right up here we have that well
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there's like you know you go in there's
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like these places you know that will
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check your small gang of the places
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we'll fix your small game against the
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Dead Kennedys song a trusty mechanic
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right you want to get a second opinion
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before you get an operation you know
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especially with some elective thing
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right and I'm just saying
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to keep things above board there should
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be you that identifies the need for that
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ad right at the end at the end of the
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value chain there should be somebody who
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puts the ad into some kind of medium in
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between there should be one or more
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people possibly a review board
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well here's the exit the better the
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proper facets four facets and completion
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there's a problem with this theory
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further the first problem is from the
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when you talk about the girls somehow
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along the way in America at least the
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definition of an adult female
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relationship has become that your female
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friend if you are a woman your best
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female friends need to be one hundred
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percent supportive of you this is this
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is now somehow has become the definition
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of female friendship in America so that
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no matter how reprehensible you are as a
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person your best female friends can only
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say to you girl you are you rule you
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know what he's not making it a priority
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girl you are the all-girl you know like
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your girlfriend's can only pump you up
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you cannot in it and nothing everything
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they say that the most important part is
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that they consistently stay on brand
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it's like they might even not hundreds
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and believe that right I can't believe
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it all but ok stay on brand because
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that's the definition of friendship if a
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woman says to another woman now you know
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what actually in this situation I think
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maybe u dot you put an ellipses there
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and the friendship is over the girls
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like oh my god I can't believe it she
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she was you know she was trying to tell
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me how to live like girls that girl of
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the the definition of female friendship
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has become completely perverted so it is
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rubber to rubber stamp it's a rubber
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stamp it's absolutely you you're here
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for your friends are just a proxy for
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your own fuckin problems now so if you
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had your if it in a female situation the
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girlfriends would write an even more
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ridiculously like a fantastical
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definition of their friends because they
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wouldn't there there's no way one woman
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would say about another woman
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oh you know there's more over to love
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are you kidding me that that the
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flamethrowers would come out and in the
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case of the guys i mean at one guy right
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so what's a personal ad for another guy
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first one that would never happen but
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but if you do it okay if he was forced
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to it would be like yeah i mean he's
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dude or whatever he's got I guess ok it
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would be to be single single white male
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fine whatever i guess i'm not gay single
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dude once a chick if you know be cool
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solid solid bro yeah don't be like w/w
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bitch that's it I guess
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hmm have a nice nice parts so you're
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saying that this system is going to work
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at the review board system we're going
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to work you would have to have really
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preferably impartial 3rd parties
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what you need is a tribunal
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what you need is a panel of six people
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who like relax for everyone or commodity
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type situation exactly so youyou you
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submit your online profile you stand
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accused of being single please be
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patient with a research on you they look
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at your facebook pictures yet little bit
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of research i think a sitting position
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they would have gone to town on that
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shit take the firehouse there's millions
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of people writing personal ads there's
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only six people on the tribunal they
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need to get through these pretty John
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John you're a single person telling the
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world that you're alone i think that is
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worth having your house invaded by monks
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if they're going to come in a very
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thorough right and the thing is they're
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probably not going to harm you unless
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you got a comment but they're going to
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go through all your stuff they're gonna
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go through your past certainly yes
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they're gonna they're gonna suck on your
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Facebook page right and how many people
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you think three or four is it all men
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whose on the tribunal no no it has to be
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it has to be men and women i think i
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think again i hate to keep referencing
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4chan now but I think we should just I
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think this is what 4chan is for people
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have been asking what the hell is
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fortunate for I think 4chan is the
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tribunal that should be writing personal
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ads for single people because those
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people are merciless and they know how
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to find your your pictures on flickr you
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know what I mean like I don't care how
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many levels of security you have on your
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on your internet photos if you have
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taken a photo and put it on the internet
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anywhere fortune will find it
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and they're behind seven proxies there
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behind seven proxies they will find that
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they will they will photoshop some semen
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on your face
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mhm and then they will write a personal
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attributes are snapping it called a
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seaman shop scene shop that's a nap is i
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think it's a it's on the new iphone 5
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that's costly and very hard to update
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299 hmm demon shop but but but I swear
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to you that would mean you're saying
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you're saying that in addition to not
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being afraid to give a very honest
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opinion they they will come in and give
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you an extremely honest opinion may be
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honest to the point of being a little
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bit made up but that's what you're
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facing if you're going to be on
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craigslist if you're gonna if you're
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gonna be in a bay area garden next
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garden next to a pot add a hand job at
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that's your competition you need to have
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something in there that's going to say
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this has the seal of approval from the
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monks we know that this is exactly how
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fucked up you can expect this person to
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be except the problem with that is that
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all relationships are based on lies
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why shouldn't they be based on lies from
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the very GetGo we say that like it's a
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bad thing John
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but but but i think i think at least you
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could do something now for example you
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got the usepa people don't love the
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usepa they say nikal is a known card
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usepa they say nikal is a known card
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tension right so they put in a level of
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safety of like a 10 x 400 x depending on
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how dangerous they think it could be
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based on the weight of evidence right
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they say hey look we're probably being
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safer than we need to be but we don't
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want you pulling coins out of your
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pocket and dying from cancer so we're
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going to keep that in line I think
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that's what we do here we have a margin
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of error based on weight of evidence and
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it's clear you may be way more fucking
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bananas then we can even see from this
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Tribunal we may add an order of
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magnitude to that and I think that's
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reflected in the ad
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I think it's true i think it'll say so
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right there maybe maybe it maybe there's
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a little bad for your bat shit crazy or
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something there's something there that
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gives people a quick indication it's the
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equivalent of I can you can see what i'm
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doing right here but imagine me holding
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my my love my love em holding my left
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hand up vertically and we're making an
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e6 while I point at my hand like the
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other person can't see it
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alright see ya thank you so much for
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describing that I think it I think it
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helped a lot of people including the
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people who are placing the ads but
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here's the here's the thing you show up
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you show up for a date that from
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somebody that you met on an Internet the
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dating service and it turns out that
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person is 75 pounds heavier than the
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heaviest picture that they put on their
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profile just in the party photographed
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1-75 extra pounds of face that they put
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me put a picture of themselves from when
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they were 15 and now they're 40 and they
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and their 80 pounds have here
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excuse me mrs. that Garrett type
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happened and the thing is most of the
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people showing up
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uh on that date have also like they're
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also fatter than that then the fans
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picture on their profile and in some
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cases the it only takes them a second to
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readjust their filters so that they they
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no longer the they you know they say
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reevaluate so that all of a sudden maybe
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they found their perfect mate
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whereas if they had read the if they had
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read the profile and the profile had
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been ruthlessly true they never would
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have made the trip because in their own
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mind they're much better looking and
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much smelter than then they actually are
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now this is what I mean I don't think
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i'm going to just add a great disagree
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because i think you put in addition I do
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not agree to disagree
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ok that about well I never agree to
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disagree neither do i I was there
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disagree or I will agree but i will not
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agree to disagree
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think about the famous example though
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right let's say let's say that you were
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someone who could be loved just
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hypothetically and somebody your family
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says maybe uncle joe says hey I really
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want you to meet Hortense you should
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meet my friend Hortense then you go and
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tell me a little more about Hortense
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says she's very sweet she's got a great
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personality good cook makes around close
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right right i like her so far okay
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because you like to eat
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I do and you know somebody who makes
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their own clothes that they're great to
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have after the zombie apocalypse
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that's a good point you know what I
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gotta rethink this I'm just saying that
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you're not gonna hear a lot of asterisks
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and all that right
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mm I'm just saying now with his name
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uncle Rico or whatever his name is when
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he presents that he might think he's
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doing her a big favor
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I think he's I think as they say he's
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damn her with faint praise right he's
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under selling her right
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I think if he says it's a very heavy
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girl who probably won't break up with
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you you're going to think a little
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harder but maybe saying yes plz but this
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was this depends on how many times
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you've had sex okay that should not be
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right in there you think
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well no you can't say that about
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somebody else but about it if if you're
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talking about me personally or talk
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about a hypothetical guy like your
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hypothetical American guy has had sex
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with what the five different women other
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people you mean five different people
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other than himself
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ok so you know here's he has had sex
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with enough people that he has a sense
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of what it out how it works and he's
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seen five different naked bodies and
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some bodies on the Internet has a
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general picture of how this all goes
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he could see himself in the seat of that
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car exactly so here
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here comes here comes to Hortense and
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she's uh she's anywhere from you know
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being a us very skinny girl to being a
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large girl she's a she's anywhere from
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being a pretty girl to being a
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an interesting-looking person she
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described herself as often she if she's
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the Cece she's a smart girl she speaks a
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little Yiddish time and and so a guy
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sees himself and me and the a likes her
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that she gets his jokes she makes her
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own clothes and he thinks is this going
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to be good at this sex that we're gonna
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have is going to be good and he has that
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he only had sort of a general sense
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impression about what that is even what
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that was even asking himself is this
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going to be good i don't know has even
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as even had good sex before maybe this
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is the best sex of his life he can trust
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that would say duff mckagan right i mean
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tough Kagan's had sex with a lot of
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girls and it's it's the the standard of
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a of what he's you know he's not he's
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probably mean he ducked married so
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that's a bad example but you use a use
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somebody who's who's had a lot of sex in
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there there there there trying to get a
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different they're there they're looking
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for a pheromonal connection
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they're probably not even seen the the
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body type you know what I mean like I
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think ideally would be like that
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fascination with somebody for somebody
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having a perfect body is a is just a way
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station on the way down the road you
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know the only pretty immature people
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focus on perfect bodies so you're saying
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something like like a definite kick and
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I want a circle back to him because I
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understand he's an investor now but I
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you you're saying something like a
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definite Kagan he's going to go into the
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bakery and he's gonna say give me a bear
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claw and they're gonna give a better
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client is going to say thanks he's not
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going to sit there and spent five years
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wondering if that's the right bear claw
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for him he understands a bear claws of
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their cloth right well does diamond
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dolphin dolphin kick in it
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well here's what's going to happen does
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not going to say I haven't seen every
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kind of female body I he's not going to
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marry somebody and say oh what if I
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should have been with a brunette
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you know what I mean like em he he knows
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he knows you know what I'm saying
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huh whereas somebody who's never even
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been with a brunette girl might spend
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the rest of their life thinking oh maybe
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a brunette girl was the girl for me
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oh and this is where you get in my
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wheelhouse here its experience and
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expertise you go around enough you know
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what kind of problems to solve
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you're not getting fixated on these
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fakie barriers you're sitting there
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going I wonder if she'll have satin
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sheets and saying instead of saying I
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wonder if they'll fit through her door
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right no yeah you know maybe not maybe I
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think you've done enough right you like
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it or not you you got in there
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you've been in there and you know that
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those are all implementation details
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implementation details are precisely who
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say for instance i mean the the some of
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the best the best female friends let's
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say the best female companions it in my
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life have ever been across a a a
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spectrum of body types and looks you
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know you wouldn't you wouldn't look at
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them and say that they all look the same
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or that they were all equally endowed or
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equally pretty but but they have the the
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good ones really have differentiated
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themselves from the from the other ones
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and you're sticking with deceit you
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stick your story that you've had a lot
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of these so-called friends
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no not a lot you know what i mean but I
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mean about my old man
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mhm and I'm a veteran of a thousand
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psychic wars
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mm-hmm i spent a lot of time in love
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with lesbians
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I mean yeah I'm not again I'm not new
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you think ever drove any of them to the
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other other bench
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no no no I don't think that's a thing
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mmm I don't think i have a friend that
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did that a couple times but who knows
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maybe he's had bad luck you know right
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there they were headed there you
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probably had somebody to be gay really
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know unless they were already already
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kicking the tires but if they were
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already kicking the tires that you
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didn't it's not like you pushed him over
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the edge I don't think
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adding maybe maybe you could be may be
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could be in a relationship just like you
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know this is not only is this not
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working out really i don't even like
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your parts i don't want to see your
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parts on anybody else I don't want to
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see anybody with your parts
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mm I don't see that happening when parts
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or parts
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hmm yeah you feel that way about guitars
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after a while I do I again I think it's
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a thing it's a maturity thing when
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you're a young person you play whatever
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guitar you can get and a certain point
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you spend a lot of time talking about
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guitars and oh you only will play this
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kind of guitar
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oh it's only this guitar on that guitar
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in this guitar and then a certain point
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when you've been playing guitar for a
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long time you just somebody hands you
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guitar you play the guitar you hehe yeah
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I reach for whatever guitar is closest
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to me and if I'm if I am showing up to a
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gig and somebody says oh I've got a
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guitar you can use an amp you can use I
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don't really even ask that many
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questions about what is going to be
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there I'm like okay I assume that the
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guitar and the amp are going to be
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within the range that I can make it work
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and I don't you know the the years and
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years i said i spent sitting on a chair
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discourse about her about the difference
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between a 55 Telecaster and 56
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telecaster like I could give a care now
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I don't most of that most of that
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knowledge most of that guitar knowledge
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has sort of just drained out my ear
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because I don't that isn't the
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profession that I decided to pursue mhm
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the guy who sits on a chair and
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appraises your guitar and and I spent
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all I spent so many years working in
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guitar stores where a guy would come in
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and say yeah you know I bought this 56
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strap but it's really not the tone
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I've been playing it for about six
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months showing up at own i'm looking for
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and I think I want to trade it for a 55
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les paul goldtop and both of these
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guitars even then were
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twenty-five-thousand-dollar 30,000 our
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guitars this is you know 15 years ago
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now they're been off the charts with
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these guitars cons but at the time they
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were still expensive and i'm looking at
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this guy like wow you got a 56 strat and
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it didn't have the tone you were looking
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for right you must be a guitar wizard
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you must be a scientist of guitar sound
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like a little read Zappa level of picky
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absolutely like it like totally as Abba
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right somebody that's just like I can't
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get that this guitar has a notch at 14
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Hertz or whatever and I just and I can't
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even bear to hear it and so I would take
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this stratocaster out of his hands
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perfect strategy a tweet case and it go
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get this gold top out of the case and
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handed to him any plug into an ambien
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and it he who would seriously these guys
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would play smoke on the water you know
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and they even made play smoke on the
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water without any so like okay and err
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err err err sounds good man that's
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awesome that's the one for me and they
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would trade this you know they trade
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this guitar in for the other guitar they
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put an extra five grand on the table or
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something like that and out they go
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happy as can be with this guitar that
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has the tone they're looking for and I
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swear to you I it it burned out the the
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part of my brain that believed that tone
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was even a thing like it burn it burn
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that out of me when I was like you know
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screw you
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good Kurt Cobain play univox above $75
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univox through a boss ds-1 and that is
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like I can't think of anybody who would
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play through that stuff it's so shitty
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and yet
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he's like going out guitar tone so I I
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stopped caring and right now i would get
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if there's anybody listen to this that
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wants to send me a frequent our home
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plate up later at my next show I swear
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to you that's why they're like women
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exactly it right exactly analogous to my
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relationships with women you play enough
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yet good at the basics the fundamentals
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you practice a lot then you start really
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caring what they look like and what
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their pedigrees and then and then after
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a while any one will do if there's if
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there's somebody listening to this
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podcast who wants to thank you send you
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a woman who is a woman or wants to send
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a woman that's great i will player at my
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next show
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but you do have to be up early in the
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morning so you promised me that he
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should probably go huh well gotta you
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so haha make it scream all you want
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we're much more I can hear there's a guy
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i have a there's a whole area where the
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single women can live out by the barn
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that McCain's an investor now don't you
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know I've gotta know Duff yeah you
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talked about him you're you're like
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girls with him well you know it turns
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out were related
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I had to I had to refer to him in this
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podcast in a way that he would that in
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any way he would take a as a
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disparagement because I think he's an
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amazing guy and I only reference him
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because I feel like he has known a lot
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of women and now is happily married so
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in that sense that Duff Beer on the
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simpsons is named after him i just
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learned is that right hmmm but he's a
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he's a longtime Seattle guy and it turns
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out the were cousins
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we just found this out the other day did
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I tell the story already know we're at a
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slayer concert and backstage the Slayer
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concert and they were standing around
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here no you know what you're not you're
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actually your generations of property
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Robert Evans up like a slash rustler
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show and and this kid is stand there and
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he's like are you John Roderick and I
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said yeah and he said oh I'm I'm
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I'm like your step nephew or something
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like that and I said really he said yeah
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my mom is married to the brother of the
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sister of your brother and sister of
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your brother's life and Duff is standing
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there and he turns out he goes what and
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and it turns out the kid is Duff's
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nephew I'm tough says we're related
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stood there and worked it out where like
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cousins uncles of this kid and yeah so
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now we're now the bond is it that much
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stronger
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this is a an excerpt from an article
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last week in bloomberg businessweek in
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his autobiography it's so easy and other
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lies which is coming out very soon
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mckagan 47 explains how he stopped his
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gallon of vodka a day habit by switching
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to 10 bottles of wine how we drank his
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own vomit because it had alcohol in it
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how he used cocaine just so he could
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drink more
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how you drank so much beer at one point
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that guns and roses lead singer Axl Rose
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introduced him as the king of beers and
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appreciate the simpsons ass-kickin the
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show's beer after him how his pancreas
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basically exploded causing third-degree
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burns on his other internal organs and
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then goes on to say that he actually is
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one of the very few people in the entire
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music industry that was not ripped off
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by somebody and how invested it really
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well it's something very interesting
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well the thing that you don't realize
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about duff mckagan because you look at
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those original definite Kagan wasn't
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guns and roses we should mention yeah
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you look at those pictures of guns and
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roses and even the earliest pictures of
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guns and roses Duff already looks like
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he's really really wasted even in the
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first promo photos really he's already
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living the life way way before everybody
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else is like dying of overdoses are
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having strokes or whatever and and
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nobody in Guns N Roses died of an
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overdose but there's a lot of there's a
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lot of drugs but stuff is really hitting
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it hard from the style yeah but he also
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was one of the main songwriters like he
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wrote the sweet child of mine and stuff
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like that he's getting that he's got a
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credit on that he's the bass player but
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he was writing tune
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and that's the key to success in rock
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absolutely you're writing some tunes and
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he's writing some he was writing some
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solid gold guns and roses material
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no doubt about it so you know he's a
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he's a triple threat
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so he says he's a good-looking guy well
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and right now
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pancreas have exploded or no he is a
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reason he's in the shape of his life
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yeah it's all here in the book wow look
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at him that's amazing
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you don't mean like look if your
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pancreas explodes yeah that's not we're
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not kidding around right i mean that's a
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serious thing you're gonna have to get
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your guys back up back up back up back
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your workload at that point you're gonna
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have to you have to do something you
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have to make some kind of lifestyle
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change even if it's just that you get a
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mechanical pancreas
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can you do that the problem of the
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mechanical pancreas particularly for
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recording artist as you get the
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microphones pick it up to make the kind
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of like I like a 5k buzz it so there's a
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little bit of you know 40 cycle hum so
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you don't want to mechanical pancreas if
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you're going to do a lot of studio work
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get isolated you have to isolate you
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have the pancreas isolation booth
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standard standard a booth where the is
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there a box from your nipples to your
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knees but but he has you know talk about
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a survivor
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yeah and yeah and the thing about deaf
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ears the other thing I mean youyou think
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about these big rock guys like Vince
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Neil you don't get the sense that Vince
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meal can do and can do very complicated
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arithmetic right i mean sure like 14
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plus 11 sure I bet Vince Neil could
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handle that I think he hit to figure out
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a tip like a hundred and seventy-four +
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250 I think Vince Neil would he'd be
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struggling but stuff does the smart guy
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he's articulate he's a you know he's a
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writer I'm a tremendous respect for him
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I bet he didn't do good in school hey
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you have
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at factoid he was a drunk he was one of
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the drivers for the fastbacks that's
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right the first drummer from get out of
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here I've ever seen that infographic
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that table they've got no setup to be on
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our own robot they've got a whole page
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of people who was the drummer in the
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fastbacks when I'm sure it's very
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complicated at least two of those
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drummers have played in the long winters
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rusty now what's the guy's name
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well we've had so Jason Finn was in the
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fastback see the one with the floppy
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symbols
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still there's help video who is that no
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I think that's probably what Mike
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Musburger I got this transfer and also
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played along where most burger playing
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the fastbacks for a long time
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Musburger and Finn you know they have a
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they have a long-standing rivalry really
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and because they're being go to Seattle
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drummers have known each other for years
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and and the time that they were both in
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the fastbacks is it you know that's
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where their rivalry really really
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reached its its Apogee because they're
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always like I said York dick Sargent
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type situation exactly who's the better
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who's the better man on the throne I
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have to reserve judgment you i would say
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it's a small town
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yeah i mean that the answer is clear but
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i have to have to recuse myself Pixar's
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noqday shares getting my ass kicked
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ya welcome back to guitars and amps
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there's a lot to talk about
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I'm sitting in a room right now full of
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guitars names have a guitar right here
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the big that the gibson company just
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gave me a couple weeks ago
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they're going out of business aren't
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they who said that
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heard they're an awful shape that's open
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to know what is that as a drop d
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no this is a
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this is open see you tune down to an
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open sea
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yeah what are you into my god
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oh that's a nice harmonic yeah that's a
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great cord i mean it's it's not a great
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acoustic guitar tuning because it's it's
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pretty low
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the strings are pretty sloppy but it's a
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break from recording you got me sold on
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my favorite
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well my third favorite guitar chord my
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favorite guitar chord as you know is a
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a.d with a netted a sharp
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yeah you like that 1i know and you know
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I i always like to cheat you know come
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to city guy you you're just you got me
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into this is the sea with the added
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loach e right so that's the magic they
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start out you got a regular old you do
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that's magic you do that too much effect
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all that yet but the g down there it
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said on huh
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and it'll be a breeze do that on that
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song yeah yeah that that the g on the on
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the top of the seeds a changes
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everything you know what kids if you're
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picking up guitar play everything in the
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key of G and then and then use that C
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and then when you do the g I think you
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add the little extra d on the B string
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ok i do dad yep that's a bit bulky thing
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yeah that's the thing too that if you
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wanted really chime the just just get it
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really chime in if you have a
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Rickenbacker or want to sound like a
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burger Barker add that little D on the B
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include reckon backers in your it
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doesn't really matter about guitars
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argument well see here's the thing i
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have this rickenbacker for years it was
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my sound and it truly what it does it
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did have a very unique sound and no i
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couldn't find another guitar to
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duplicate this sound and the guitar you
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know this is a 67 rickenbacker had been
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broken and glued together a half a dozen
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times it had Gibbs and pickups and it's
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at that the 330 what is it
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it was a 360 360 sorry and you know get
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what you you couldn't you couldn't build
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this guitar
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it was a unique unique item
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and a certain point I just couldn't take
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it on the road anymore I was it was it
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was too it was too important to me and I
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had to go about finding how to make that
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tone how to approximate that tone with
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other guitars I when I finally started
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approximating the tone then I realized
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oh you can you can make guitars sound
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you can make them sound pretty good
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they don't have to be great guitars you
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can make them sound pretty good i mean
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the we're talking about the top four
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percent of the tone but the but
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ninety-six percent of the tone you can
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get it there
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you know you get an amp you get up you
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mess with the knobs mess with the knobs
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on the guitar you can get there
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yeah yeah i mean like you're playing
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like you but one he played in these
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places with all this it was smoke and
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weird humidity and the sound guys coked
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up and it just seems like there's so
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many factors you know what the biggest
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factor of all is that whatever your
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guitar tone is ultimately the sound guys
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going to put another beer soaked sm57 in
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front of your hand and he's gonna run
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that sm57 through a mackie 16-channel
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bored through a couple of 300 watt power
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amps that he bought off craigslist
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sweeten it up a little bit of slap back
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she's gonna put it he's going to put a
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little lexicon slap back on it and he's
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gonna run it out into his Yamaha PA and
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whatever do you mean you could be
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playing through a
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two-hundred-thousand-dollar guitar rig
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but except for the five guys that are
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standing right in front of your am
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everybody else is hearing it through a
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through such a fucked up signal chain
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that I you know believe me if you if you
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were playing a pv if you're planning
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your playing a pv guitar through a pv
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bandit with the with the chorus button
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pushed in but it wouldn't sound any
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better what an advantage it
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my friend Mike just had a guy custom
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make him a gold top Flying V but a
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fretless flying well it's the girls just
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pearl jam boy
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no no okay mica mica is he's just a he's
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just a ding-dong Seattle ding-dong
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but he's got this he actually used to be
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in the long winters 20 that my Squires
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all sure fretless Flying V and I look at
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my go up front was wanting to be what
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the hell're friendless six-string guitar
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the hell are you gonna do with that
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means like what do you mean what am I
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gonna do that it's the coolest thing
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ever and it's it's just a kind of
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insanity is restless kind of the
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opposite of scallops you think I mean I
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got you have amazing internation for
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this is the opposite of good
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that's true like it in a perfect world
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you would I mean there are guys who can
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play the frontlines guitar and it sounds
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like I've never I'm sorry John I've
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never heard of a fretless guitar ads you
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know you can play a front any instrument
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can be friendless by trumping if you
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have incredible intonation your
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intonation it would have to be
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completely out of control
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hi how are you going to play a you can
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play a barre chord on I got you would I
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don't think you would just doing spoolie
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goofy solos with lots of like like Vicki
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slidy bends well batter you could play
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like little too little to note chords
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little three note chords even you could
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keep that stuff
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it sounds very very flexible it's like
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playing the violin and how do people do
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yeah I pick up a violin and and played
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it sounds like sounds like somebody's
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killing goats with a chainsaw psychos
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ooh key method for this extreme have to
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call the suzuki that we learn to count
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on your fingers so that's the second
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suzuki reference i've heard in as many
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days and I I don't think it's like it's
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like Hooked on Phonics right for music
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uh i think so or maybe like the Roy
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Clark easy guitar or the thing where you
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put the stickers on the piano
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I'm not entirely sure I my want to do
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stuff in the garage band which you know
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is a musical instrument
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I'm on blame lost on that front l'espace
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it's just it's a mess different skills
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I really appreciate I was in a band with
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a friendless bass player and it's a very
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different sound I mean it used
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incorrectly it sounds like a dream of
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the blue turtles like fretless bass used
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use poorly is the worst is the worst
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challenge activists aureus the late
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great Jack upper stories
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Pino Palladino there are several people
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that can rock the fretless bass old
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friends based in the hands of a master
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yeah just want Joni Mitchell song jaco
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pastorius place on that's just ungodly
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but it just it just seems like you know
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when what you want to just get out once
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you get 12 string friend let's go ahead
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go nuts
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why not don't know if you wanna join
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three bad science freak base why don't
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you go ahead and just do that it goes it
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it it trends over into that natalie
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merchant is great
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yes just like this is not music for this
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is not the music for me this is there
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like michael hedges like I like michael
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hedges right
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I you know the late michael hedges
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amazing guitar player but what you can
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you can really get a little too much
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fretless bass on something you can get a
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lot too much can get so much friendless
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based on your on a song that it will
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actually cause you to get your period is
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that right yeah I've heard you say you
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know create kalbi says it'll actually
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literally it'll literally slide off the
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record fall right off there trying to
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master the cats already on the floor at
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the cottage as possible
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