00:00:11 ◼ ► no we mean like email and like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► standard like TV commercials or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► yeah sometime maybe even fake commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► commercial like me like thank our ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► this this episode brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► Merlin salve I know I I haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► I haven't sought sponsorship it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► that I would you know turn the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► away but i will not my impression of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/34">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► yeah was that you made something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► then you sold advertising space all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► yeah until the thing itself was the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► of a can of tuna virtually obscured and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► then there was advertising you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► flashing at you and offer you click here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► and you get a million dollars yet here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► and your dick will be twice as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► yes isn't that what so how why should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► that first of all the answer question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► that is a that is a very popular model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► for making money on the web and it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► that was one that I've employed some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► people go with subscription models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► that's where you know you a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► amount of money and you get a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/73">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► amount of stuff but that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/74">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► work nobody subscribe to my loving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► yes some people do i think one problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► is that people get you know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► phenomenon that happens on the web that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► you can see sometimes in things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► reviews for software where if people try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► to if you read reviews of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► alright alright already been around much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► and the thing is if you charge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► so a you know like if somebody was dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► take out can we get some quiet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► set here you guys if you want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► fuck off somewhere thanks appreciate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► wow you're not going to take charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► yeah filmmaker I'm gonna have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► something the thing is I what I all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► these hippies doing in the yard anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/115">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► I've got out you have some pot to smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► I've got you should load up a hacky sack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► I've got that what they call I the tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► yeah so i can zoom right in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► distractions from me or just oh I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► what you're saying yeah you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► I because i'm a rock musician of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► the drugs have given me a really short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/134">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► in the yard but voices all around really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► mhm but anyway you were saying about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► yeah i'm curious about this oh no way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► were talking about advertising on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► yeah there's no advertising but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► right people of be buying buying ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► they also will do I think of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► conventional less idiotic way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► is with which we call sponsorship so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► i turned the camera and say I'm I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► know sponsored by Roderick south for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/167">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► of your of burning needs and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► call that a DJ it's not film me a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► that a DJ read okay it goes back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► days of radio it's Bobby I like maalox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► right or what has brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► Carl's jr. that's my girls doing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► precisely and i think that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► way that some people are doing it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► know it's a that that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► internet and how people are but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► not doing that either no not so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► now this is just literally losing money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► while i'm talking this is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/199">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► downloading somebody's music for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► you're offering you're putting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► yeah hoping that it generates traffic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► I just want people to like me and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► affection for me and I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► subsidize whatever it takes right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► we're in the same business really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► feel like you put it out there and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► you you have a big developer affection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► for you huh yeah and that that affection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► will one day translate into money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► yeah is that am i right but to possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► see what you do this you do this I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► we both do something like this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► living I guess he is kind of my living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► you know your urine and different boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► than you were a few years ago but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► thing is when you're a musician a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► people who work jobs in the straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► world actually people of all stripes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► constantly trying to tell you how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► your job itself is its own reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► like oh wow you know touring is so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► you're so lucky and money has to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► like so far down the list of of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► motivations because you get to travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► you get to you know play your music for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► people and and it's it's I'm super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► grateful that people spend so much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► telling me all the reasons why i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► be glad that I'm not getting paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► the various things in the best people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► that are of course the promoters for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► show or you know the people that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► your understand how how valuable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► publicity is yeah they understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► valuable it is that you be convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► that the three free beers they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/297">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► compensation there you having driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► eight hours to play their logic their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► logic is often fractal though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► because their logic their logic is it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► at least recursive it so it's really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► know you're using a lot of words I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► worry for you to be able to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► festival this year I can't even tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► how many people we couldn't get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► building's you do you understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► much press is gonna be here for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► fallen oak festival that's right you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► well you know I had a fucking pack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► van and drive here and pay my band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► they go but you know this is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► opportunity and you but to play the ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► polyp of benefit yeah because it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► because I a lot of going to be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► exposure and to a demographic that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► of people don't get their music exposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► to set your table with a spot for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► to love them so you've got really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► the beauty then is it's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► rarefied vertical market you're moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► yeah yeah but see but didn't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► that's what's funny though is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► very seldom you think what this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► thing you encounter on the web and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► the in the music business and is by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► way it is music business that's not show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► friends let's show pretty special about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► the business is that about credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► Johnson now because whenever i quote him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► without crediting him yeah he creates a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► letter he regularly because he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► send it he writes to the to the tune of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► heaven knows i'm miserable now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► Smith I just like to point out that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► chair is fully six inches lower than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► Merlin so if it seems like with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► stand I don't play stupid John I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► make sure the audio but you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► yeah I know I know yeah this is my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► word let's switch for a minute just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► i like to see no you want so the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/397">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► can see the difference in hell if we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► yeah to he's probably having trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/402">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► keeping our heads and frame as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► headspace it's had a lot of cough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/405">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► medicine earlier today but it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► this happens on with web stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► happens with music stuff and God knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► what happens with film stuff because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► have some friends who do film stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► I it's there are so many people who work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/417">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► associated with certain industries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► they'll give up a lot a lot of times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► called an internship or what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► and people higher up the food chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► really exploit that in every one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► entertainment businesses like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► perceived glamour is a is a major form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► of pay for people who are breaking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► any industry like oh man you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► going to meet Bono's personal assistants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► sister tonight maybe she's on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► yeah she might not come but you may get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► the driver to the US here is a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► nothing wrong with that and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► and it's great because a whole I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► that is how people get into the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► initially but after you've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► anything for a while you're like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► yeah great Bono's personal assistants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► what I don't you know like I've got not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► not just bills to pay but i have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► certain amount of mean you know me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► have it I have a little bit of a dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► problem in that I might have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► too much dignity or i might perceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► that boil it down to a single dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► problem is when a constellation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► dignity issues i have dignity issues a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► compilation of them but one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► one of one of the things that I get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► backup about is when you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► people are telling me why I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► satisfied with less than they would give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► someone else because of the because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► the perceived intangible benefits of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► job which is yeah screwing teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► blow not having to work sleeping all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/506">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► right i mean these are real benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► yeah i was very wrong their purpose its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► right but when somebody said wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► someone somebody sitting in a back room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► of a club with a cigar in their mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► and accounting hundred-dollar bills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► telling me that that that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► teenage girl that I'm about to go shag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► in the van is part of my pay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► i jacked yeah we want the Nash talk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► here's here's the thing is their days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► yeah I'm sorry I didn't you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► can't be careful if you get to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► i'm talking right into the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► yeah that's as good generally threaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► people because I want people to like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► the the one part of that but i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► unstated and Status exchanges that go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► and the power exchange stuff that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► on where for a lot of those interests or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► for that let's say bottom of the bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► band was watching the guy peel off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► hundreds they understand that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► not in a position to say hey wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► minute i need to escalate this and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► need to talk a little bit about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► what's actually going on here no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► know what you're right and one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► think is a probably your credit is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► your i have I can't even tell you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► many times you seem to really seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► really relish the opportunity to go talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► to the guy with the hundred-dollar bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► and fucking set him straight about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► exactly how it's going to work and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► fun to watch but i think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► are happy to just infer that the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► the manager but they're part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► glamour industry and happy that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► what I'm just glad to be playing at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► the doo-dah bar tonight it's just on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► friday instead of a tuesday at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► it's not like LA where we just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► pay you know it's right in seattle jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► has a pay-to-play in saddle you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► the I mean there are there are places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► ok but the version of pay-to-play is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► just that you pay for you play for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► and you watch the bar you know sell five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► jagermeister shots and you're like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► yeah but i think it in computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► also in in rock I don't know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/628">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► not meet people but people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► afraid of appearing aggressive afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► afraid of offending people and so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► so you get people who who will who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/644">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► waiting for somebody to hand them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► authority there waiting for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► to to say now you have the authority to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► stand up for yourself and until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/658">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► point you just have to behave yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► but that will come externally it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► something that they're gonna bring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► the situation they're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► coronation that they're waiting for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► think right there waiting to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► waiting to for there for there were blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► or their their site or their band to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/674">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► unquestionably big enough that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► just genuflected them and give them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► that that they earn respect by virtue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► the of the the thing they produce rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► than commanding respect by some by some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► other method by some by just by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► embodying somebody who who is who isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► going to take it in the shorts and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/701">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► the challenges I mean obviously I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► reputation of being I don't know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/711">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► miss missed opportunity for people to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/728">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► learn from you to learn what all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► that i have the TV you know I I feel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► feel like what what what often gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► called arrogance or abrasiveness on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► business when a man does its assertive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► right if I if I was a contractor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► that behavior would be necessary to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► the job done right you've got guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► coming in late you've got guys coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► hungover you gotta get the frame-up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► gotta get the concrete board and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► have to you know you have to bust some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► heads and you also have to say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► you're shortchanging me on copper pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► yeah and because everybody's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► shortchange everybody on copper pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► it's the it's the way of the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► in the music business if you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► somebody out for shortchanging you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► the unload the load of lumber whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► that load of lumber is there's this uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► the the typical reaction is like oh man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► that's so uncool hard to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► oh yeah John Roderick man is really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► such she such dick because that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► the the currency the lingua franca of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► these creative businesses is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► incredibly passive kind of like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► cool man you know I know you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► we were going to get $1,500 and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► only giving us like eleven dollars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► that's cool you know it's your clubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► righteous and you're cool dude and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► get you next time you know and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/814">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► yeah and I'm sure I'm sure it happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► the in the web business too although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► can't i can't picture away in which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► guys would ever actually speak to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► other face-to-face so now like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/828">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► no Robin LOL that's what we do we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/832">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► speak we speak to each other mostly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► this kind of this kind of yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► fatwa punctuation a little round around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► smiley face and whose eyelashes going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► like that's that's I've used that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► yeah there's there's on the web a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/852">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► there's a cat here a lot of the power if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► you will comes from quantifiable things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► like traffic or how high up on google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► you appear for certain returns and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► is kind of weird that whether you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► to participate in this or not there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► ways in which you're not only being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► evaluated but in some ways people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► very obsessively following the stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► the way we're adding ranking ranking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► that's right at anyway is in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► that you might for example not you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► somebody who's who's putting out records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► might sit much soundscan and go okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► well I really need to see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► on week two of this release except on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► the webz if you have a website that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► your franchise whatever it's an ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► thing and then to reach the certain kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► you know it brings with it you know lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► let's just say it's it's it's it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► though but the word from personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► experience now but yeah yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► cross a certain threshold your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► change but don't know it's a first-world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► problem bi be a dick to complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► it but that it definitely is like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► it's so for example let's say you won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► the lottery tomorrow all the sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► you're going to hear from a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► relatives and and people with cancer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► whatnot right and and it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► interesting because what it comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► to the always some share DNA with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► music industry which is you want to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► some way as much as possible ingratiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► yourself in acceptable ways to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► who can stand to give you more of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► stuff whether that's an inbound link or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► a mention or something like that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► same way the people in your industry are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► constantly sucking up to magazines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► trying to get on TV shows or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► the interesting thing about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► from every from every evil from every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► you always imagine that the next the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► next level will be the level at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► you'll have to start you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► stop sucking up to the level above you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► right and in my experience there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► like I don't know who borrow sucks up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► you learn this from the Robert Evans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► biography right you know you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► there's always somebody at charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► bluhdorn you've always got somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► above you that you've got to be pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► every level got somebody about mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► and yeah for the next level and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► with Bono it's I I don't think he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► maybe suck up to anybody but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► people there are those invisible people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► whose names maybe aren't in the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► who are controlling access to places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► that bono wants access to right he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► to he can't come in and piss on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► carpet in the entryway just because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► bono because these guys aren't aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► here's the thing and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► this is the great myth that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► really have been swell if I had learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► when I was 14 which is i really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► coming from like you know they make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► master at the same way too many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► you lose figure boring right here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► meet the stranger you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► yeah the the thing of it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► always eat n plus i tended to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► such a thing is like whatever arriving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► and you get this one place right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► here's the here's here's the tricky part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► about this and again i want to credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► mr. robert evans two great the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► producer for this is that you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► okay first of all the older you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► more you realize you have to lose at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► given time so so something like Bono and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► you're in your example from earlier you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► know Bono may not have anybody who he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► looks at his boss photos but it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► lot of skin in the game in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► different ways and it is curiously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► suspected it's a curiously American 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► century plus conceit to think that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► are people in the world who don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► about things like where they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► status and improving and keeping it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► together just because they got more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► money than me or because I got more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► and I guess the only thing i want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► is that no matter who you are no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► where you are there's always there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► always that sense of I don't know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► suspect there's always there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► something that you want to retain if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► game there's always something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► want to keep together and having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► skin in the game is what keeps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that's what keeps us all from becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► you know Spartan warriors or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► you know i think that i think the Bush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► presidency has has Illustrated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► better than almost anything in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► that they were that we always felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► all the president is beholding to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► group of of faceless man who are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► know the puppet masters but with George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► it's never been more apparent that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► ostensibly the most powerful man in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► United States and he actually turns to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► the guy sitting next to him to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► the answer he's giving the camera is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► you know he's he's visibly up he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► visibly beholding to something larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► than he is he's he still ain't even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► president the united states is not able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► to sit back and say I've arrived and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► I'm the decider as he's as he says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► know they're he's he's being stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► comprehension and I don't or not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► not not that's the best part about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► not beyond our comprehension they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► sitting right exactly what you up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► you know who it is it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► Dick Cheney and about seven other guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► who are like ahead George George yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► you're doing real good you doing real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► good and and the and understanding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► that's true in every business that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► bono and i dunno if you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► I don't want to i'm not i'm not slagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► you off I haven't ya mad respect for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► yeah but I'm even bono there's somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► out there and I don't know whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► the chairman of seagrams or whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► nelson mandela or I don't know who it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► a person that has pictures that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► there's there no one is completely free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► mhm i think that should be the the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► no what no one is completely free yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► yeah but you are and now but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► softer side of this to that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► worth mentioning which is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► actually if this is not all the farias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► inside baseball industry backroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► cigar-smoking stuff a lot of this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► you know i'm happy to say that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► really like a lot of the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► I've met through doing stuff with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► just as I know you've made great friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► by touring the world with your band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► meeting people along the way so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► it's not all it's not all there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► something to be said though like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► know like easy I've seen you happier on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► some I've seen you a lot happier on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► viewers than others just by virtue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► you got along really well and felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► mutual respect with the people that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► are touring yeah that there are I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► intangible benefits are the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you do something like this they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► main benefits yeah I didn't know never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► meant to suggest that that they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► but my objection is when other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► trying trying to tell you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► intangible benefits are worth the thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► percent of the money that they're not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► gotta tell you i think it's a deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► thing for you I think you are uncannily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► incapable of handling anything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► perceive this bullshit i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► you are almost sociopathic in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► that you cannot let bullshit stand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► yet I'm often accused of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► bullshit ru ru ru huge bullshit artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► but that doesn't make you somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► is a guy I've just seen this I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► tell you how many dozen times I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► something happens and it catches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► corner of your eye and it's big claws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► come out and you've got to go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► you're not gonna be happy and so you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► put your front paws on the shoulders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► your back claws into the gut and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► run in place for a while in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► order to exercise every last bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► bullshit there's you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► bullshit and there's bullshit and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► think that the the kind of bullshit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► instance that that you got the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► peeling off hundred-dollar bills would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► you not call that a piece of bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► that you've got a call-out not just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► financial reasons absolute almost for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► moral reasons absolutely there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► there's the bullshit that you've turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► yeah which is harmless bullshit caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► the good does it doesn't affect anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► except in a sort of like you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► that sound it's comforting at all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► and then there's bullshit please you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► find comforting bullshit that has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► where there's real skin like songs about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► spies like that that would be like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► kind of bullshit songs about spies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► i was about spies are there helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► America they are there helping people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► understand their feelings about spies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► yeah comas and that's what I'm that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► that's what I'm trying to show you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► so is my kind of bullshit know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► our kind of bullshit yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► entertainment and there's bullshit which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► is a form of obfuscation yes where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► are bullshitting in order to distract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► the person so that you can make off with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► this is actually covered in that book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► bullshit which very short book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► have on board yeah do you agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► this is along those lines it is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► a certain kind you have a certain kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► of i'm empress paraphrasing what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► just said was a certain kind of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► inert just kind of bullshit bullshit as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► a form of passing the day I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► walk down the street in athens again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► there r45 old man sitting on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► stupid yes bullshitting that's 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► it's the it's the lubricant social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► lubricant that makes the world a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► somebody's wearing as they walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► is a kind of benign bullshit but a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► of a kind of like putting a gun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► somebody's had to make them trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► believe that that's a real to pay is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► yeah where I mean a toupee toupee on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► head of a guy who's walking down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► street and he's just you can see in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► eyes that he believes that he has a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► head of hair and he believes everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► else believes that he has a full head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► hair is long as it's harmless but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► otherwise we can live with but I but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► toupee like the one on Ben Affleck which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► mm I mean his career is founded on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► fact that he's a young and virile full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► you have that you have a flat problems i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► have a certain I i think it it crosses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► the line into a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► bullshit yeah when you are when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► presenting I mean like Sean Connery for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► instance when he when he exposed himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► as a as a to paid man he he empowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► himself that by saying like the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► I'm wearing this as a costume yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► so I can appear in a film with with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► full head of hair and we know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► yeah whereas somebody like Ben Affleck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► who is who is never appears without his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► fake hair and he's a movie star this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► metaphorical hair it's metaphorical hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► okay yeah it's it's the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► talent to pay of of a breast implant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► which is not which is not advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► itself from friends Pamela Anderson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► breasts employee yes the advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► yes I have no objection to them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► she is she's a car to them so been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► of analytes career is like a nigga what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► oh no I supplying android i have no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► of knowing whether Ben Affleck has male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► for male pattern baldness likes a fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► ball person like your friend here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► yeah but but his career is founded on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► his hair kind of it to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► Ben Affleck was if he appeared bald on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► yes I don't know whether I mean he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► the option i think of appearing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► yeah and being perceived as like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► not talking about metaphorical hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► you're saying Ben Affleck wears a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► oh yeah really oh you be sure about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► yeah it's made out of its like woven out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► of the pubic hair of Vietnamese mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► hey huh currently in Vietnam it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► very lush that's what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► huh what is that won't need a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► yeah yeah and it's salty fish but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► no I'm saying across across a wine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► don't know Ben Affleck's hair is a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► against humanity right but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► there's a difference between his hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► yeah I agree well you know what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► pioneered all that was the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► weather guy on the today show what's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► name the guy used to be the big guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► wilford brimley Wilford Brimley's at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► name anybody i know will for now Roker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► oh the the big guy have a big loud guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► thank you well as scholars scholars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► Scott which it would charge would charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► you differently depending on whether he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► wore his little hair hat he charged you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► it was part of his deal is deal was I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► with Scott I'm going to show up and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► going to be Willard Scott but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► were a little hair hat my charge a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► really yeah which I think see I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► that's that that's got it takes a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► amount of self conscience consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► that I that I i find almost intoxicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► yeah I should come up with a version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► yeah like different glasses frames or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► maybe whether i have the comedy biker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► mustache or not you want me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► i'm there a lot of anybody a mustache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► little more work which version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► colorful John will you bring to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► yeah and all right that's a nice John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► scene and seen I'm saying that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► saying that crossword puzzles and Sudoku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► uh-huh rr4 retirement people you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► see any analogy with making things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► bottle cap like making a pop-top art or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► it's awful retarded people but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► the joy of making the string our owl i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► think i think that that people to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► string art owls are not just making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► out of a motivated purely by the joy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► negative status mean I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► making it in order to have to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► made and then they have the string or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► towel and they intend to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► yeah the wall or you've never made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► string are now on your entire life i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► have made a lot of string art owl have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► you made a ship i have made a ship made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► a straight i made a guy made a ship on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► string art yeah we're hammer the nails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► into a piece of absolutely when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► string the string the ship is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► classic but I wasn't making it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► the joy of making it and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► conniving well you made it official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► conniving about it yeah you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► just make a ship because he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► make a ship if you if you are not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► get you later if you're motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► make something i don't think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► don't and I think joy is a lot of joy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► a lot easier to come by then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► getting some tax and some felt in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► a ship not for some people i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► I think every I mean joy is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► simple like paint-by-number people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► like the mechanics of doing this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► sudoku or crossword people like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► simple like this is something that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► do i'm going to just move my hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► think a little bit and watch my watch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► stories false people paint by numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► and then they put it on the wall and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► you put it on now that's retarded if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► put it on the wall if you put a frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► around it and put it on the wall yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► you weren't you you don't think of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► just an exercise of the hand like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► okay if there are people out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► particularly anyone who's watching who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► paint by numbers and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► yeah and it's just an exercise like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► is something i do to keep my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► occupied lobby waiting for the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► to dry your almost French these kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► things that you come up we'll wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► different you're very you're very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► in fact you are friends i am so not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► any way you look I don't look fresh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► all you look totally friends last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► you're in France like never I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► France of two weeks ago all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► everywhere I like your sis you're ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► just like you know you they look like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► yeah they look like you you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► that's because of your stupid fat eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► and the way the he see people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► I'm you're like the Jerry Lewis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► France in my dreams in my dreams I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► know you know what's funny i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► this this is the classic this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► classic argument what that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► about art but if it's classic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► definitely stupid people people people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► want art to be pure yeah and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► believe that people make art out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► out of a directly from their heart to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► the brush unmotivated by is like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► like strippers like to dance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► you know it's just that that's so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► off like like how stuff gets gets made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► I'm but my mind is still trying to groc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► the stripper high heel and groc why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► you read that and wired few years back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► arthur c clarke is that right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► that's my mom really plan to your shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► for the little lady Clarke yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► literally throwing a couple things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► what likelike uhf an eight-track oh wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► I had no idea you were so up-to-date i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► know i got credible well I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► actually having an RSS feed the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► day and I have that down to an RSS feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► uh-huh yeah I right but you were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► grow kit for the most attractive yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► you know groc is a lot older than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► web people when people are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► looking for words because you don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► worries we only web Peter you don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► you don't mean me and my army of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► page so you repurpose word right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► you don't make words yourselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► that's I mean I I into hiding after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► working out what called butthole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► webwork we've been working on butthole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► yeah well you know because they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► differently like yeah if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► I the whole colon hear anything here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► and i'm curious like I don't think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► ever ask you this in the seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► endless conversations I've had with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► so I had always heard mostly because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► jar should know you don't talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► like that I don't know who shared our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► 1,900 1,900 and 82 I was there I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► I got it I got a twenty-dollar not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► a no-name it's a sub no-name guitar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► I was running on no that's not accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► was in tenth grade and I i learn to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► guitar and I cannot tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► there's so many mythologies of high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► school that I just find unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► including those are the best years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► your life but that if you learn to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► you'll get girls right right which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► in my experience is the bass players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► you're still upset that you didn't lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► your virginity to your 22 well well ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► me again when I'm but I'm I so so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► think it's interesting that you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► something like guitar which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► it's a musical instrument for retarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► people very easy to learn you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► you probably got good at it in and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► oh no I i labored over the guitar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► years I was I didn't become good at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► ask me again yeah until I was in my late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► twenties I think and even then not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► really good yeah i would argue i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► i'm still not good people pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► stuff like that though the thread here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► though is that people pick up stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► that because because why I mean I for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► i really liked being able to play along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► with Black Sabbath record right like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► so I can when I learned pinball wizard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► and play along with tommy that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► what I imagine sex was like I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► think that the guys who actually pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► the guitar motivated by a desire to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► girls you can see them a mile away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► they are there fuck stains every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► yeah most people who pick up the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► do not do it because they imagine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► going to get him girls they do it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► pure adolescent boy your courier yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► which is just like yeah yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► I'm you know like the the girl was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► even in it you want to be Pete Townsend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► yes and being Pete Townsend seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► the end at of itself understand heating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► get girls with it either i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► that i've never seen a picture of p-town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► yeah have you ever seen a picture of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► with a girl he's in that we're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► at Turner i challenge you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► watching this on the web to immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► click on to google and search for Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► and untroubled um address my viewers I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► it sickens me somebody playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► basketball when I when I first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► playing the guitar it was not a guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► first of all it was a tennis racket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► it was it was actually fairly for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► joy of it and i was learning nothing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► playing the tennis racket to to choose a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► wrist or Judas Priest yeah I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► what your earlier you were a big we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► def leppard Judas Priest first first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► dayz top records a early ZZ top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► breathe the Iron Maiden ac/dc and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► know what what do you get out of sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► in an empty house and going like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► dared to turn their back on tennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► racket you know yeah anything no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► like Matt out Matt masturbation it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► equivalent of play solitaire but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► yeah i would play the tennis racket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► until sweat was pouring down my face huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► i would i would do it like and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► know and what I was two hours obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► I'm I was daydreaming I was having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► was having a this like these verdant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► fields of imagination of me what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► thought it felt like to play guitar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► ac/dc that's right play guitar and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► page with the with the the crowd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► you're very familiar with the visual i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► mean like this is probably a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► French philosophy that we want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► but use your so familiar with the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► that you heard over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► right right you just leave the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► tonearm thing up and place I plays over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► and over and then you've seen probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► the videos you seen in cream in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► guitar for the Pakistan musician you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► seen all this stuff so you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► you've got everything except the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► to play guitar the magic only missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► piece you've imagined it imagine it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► then have a certain point I think as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► listen boy you have to transform it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► some kind of something physical yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► physical action of participating in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► imaginative fantasy and it's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► know it's why it's not enough to sit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► imagine playing war you have to go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► and play war with your friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► you're not actually shooting each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► your attention eh oh yeah and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► and and and imagining myself playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► guitar on a stage was was a i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► the thing that got me to actually first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► figure out what's that first course so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► frustrating gotta learn that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► just like if I could have taken a pill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► and gone from pictures of matchstick men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► into being able to actually go smoothly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► smoothly smoothly right I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► taken that pill in a second it was crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► and you're the quote that I've heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► million times that I think applies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► all kinds stuff it's not how many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► you played how many hours you play right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► like maybe you can get really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► seriously for like two or three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► you can get pretty okay guitar at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► you have any dexterity at all which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► don't really know I my hand is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► unique flavor immediately so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► you're just going to eat your player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► playing open chords yeah at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► okay wewe trying to speak following on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► oh you know but I just don't have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► can't there's no speed you can see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► hand doesn't respond to commands from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► I just I don't you just be honest but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► we're not we're not altering this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► this is actual real time that's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► quickest John can move his hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► just it's hard to even sit here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► watch it but but it's true and i see i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► see people our age people into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► thirties still being frustrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► thank you people into our early thirties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► people who just have crossed into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► um I see them time and time again being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► frustrated by the fact that in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► imagination they are much better at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► thing they want to do then they are when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► they actually put their hands on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► thing and try and do it so they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► where they would be a great architect or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► they can they picture themselves being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► great you know a game designer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► or-or somebody like said somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► watching the show and like I could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► show like that you just point the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► a couple of guys and make a shower get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► some Chinese people playing basketball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► odds you know little bit have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► what went into getting them but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► actually put your hands on the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► utilize I'm not as good at this as as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► mm-hmm and so I felt that I guitar big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► frustrated at it yeah and I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► yeah and then and when you're when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► you're 15 or 16 and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► flanks or whatever but when you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► be 35 and that is still the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► inhibiting you from doing from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► anything they are beyond just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► yeah then you know that then it then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► need to overcome you need to get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► the the fact that your imagination is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► better at the thing than then your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► and actually get in and start learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► how to do something because i see i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► as a musician i made a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► are like oh man it's so cool that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► like to get to do what you love and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► know and I just have I work at this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► at school or whatever but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► really we wish i was learning that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► i hate to always be the life coach in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► those situations but I'm like it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► for you so I remember you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► somebody an opinion on the high hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► sometimes people have to ask i had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► getting paid for it but I but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► every one of those people has a dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► I've never met a person that had a dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► disturbingly achievable so achievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► just right there and that but they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► like the little bit of practice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► they have to do the little bit of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► you know like oh that requires a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► well yeah it does but you know how easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► a fucking graduate degree is to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► know many morons I know they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► graduate degrees most of them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► there all morning I be requisite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► being called dr. they really do like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► think we should i don't know i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► be called you get your master's degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► now I have a master's degree in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► bachelor-man bachelor every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► something system being called doctor dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► Rosen penis I want to insist that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► call me back bachelor-man we don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► work for that guy I went to school for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► four years so yeah except now they hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► out bachelor's degrees too many tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► frustrating for me when i first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► playing guitar I really want to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► fast and for me that first thing was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► want to be able to play along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► beautiful songs more than anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► the world but that's the cords are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► unless you have a really easy the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► Beatles corso squirrely I'm learning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► play a 6-quart like I said you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► weird you know and of course I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► barely mastering g which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► matter not a little song without the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► yeah but-but-but I think something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► something analogous today it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► you're describing which is even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► do get good at guitar they do get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► songwriting it strikes me that still one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► of the most crazy making of enterprises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► is recording and I wouldn't want our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► band record back in Tallahassee and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► is could not have been more welcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► informal you know it's an aide a 12 pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► comfortable environment but it read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► whole career out of that got a blessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► but you know what i mean it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► invisible your recording recording it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► like it's god it's almost like cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► accounting or dentistry to took to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► recording and overdubbing and redoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► and then you realize something early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► there's something on the drums that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► especially using a four-track or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► eight-track you're saying though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► it's I think the thing you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► about not being able to get your hand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► it's so frustrating it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► would be you're paying for it your pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► your cash to go be in the studio to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► that record people forget that record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► that recording is its own art form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► completely separate from being good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► guitar or analogous but very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► scale very different skills being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► great like onstage live presence who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► like sing on key is so different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► being somebody who can let go play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► solo twice the same way and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► everybody that's a fan of music nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► knows the experience both of getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► record like the my bloody valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► record which is an incredible record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► you listen to it you're like oh man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► awesome and then you'll see them live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► they're terrible life and and then your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► favorite band that you think love to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► see and they're just this incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► charismatic kick-ass band you buy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► records and it's always a cold shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► because the record just doesn't capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► that the music that's the that process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► that process can be I mean I've watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► putting the last record together it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► you a long time it was a lot of zeros a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► lot of yet false starts and and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► somebody who takes that shit really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► seriously and everywhere you aren't fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► in and it was still very trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► very frustrating it was as its first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► frustrating mainly because again you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► your mind you know how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► record the sound and you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► can do it and you know it's just waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► on the other side of some amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► that has to pass where stuff happens you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► know like how many times when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► starting out making a record do you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► sit there on the couch and go i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► this record was just done and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► look back on how fun it was to make but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► looking forward at all the work that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► have to do and all the times when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► don't you're at a crossroads and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► you know it's excruciating and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► also the first time that you have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► this pretty much almost all in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► right i mean you did you were you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► kind of project manager as well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► songwriter the singer in the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► player and yeah I mean we have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► engineer few Lloyd Wright's my was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► was the engineer and without him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► couldn't make sure your the production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► credit on the site i produced ok and end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► it in music you know like what who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► the producer it's like directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► yourself in a movie it is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► writing directing and producing a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► and sometimes you make great movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► way and sometimes a lot of times they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► invisible because there's no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► standing there saying like know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► shot you know like the shot of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► essential to the film and it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► a turnoff for knowing knowing when to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► move on knowing when to go you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► that's going to be fine and i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► cannot spend another day on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► getting your amp to sound the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► want the way that my perfectionism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► manifest itself is not let's do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► take 80 times that is not the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► perfectionism i have like I'm generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► if but if the take was actually my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► well you know you know that that's Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► you look at you get Mike on here but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► I don't want I don't want to do it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► 80 times i do it until it until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► wow that's good and a lot of times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► a lot of the vocal performances or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► know run it down once then again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► then keep the third one but at the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► when you've got that when you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► you know clicking every few minutes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► your head you got me thinking yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► does that affect your decision-making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► also it yeah it does but it's also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► attention span thing like the cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► register is what keeps me from making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► 90-minute long records where every song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► has 80 track sharp of like living it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► um Wow walking you know there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► something where you think right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► the chorus would it be cool if like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► of us went into a parking garage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► just threw bottles at a wall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► recorded it wouldn't that be great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► know and it's the cash register that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► keeps you from doing that but it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► cash register that keeps me from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► 80 vocal takes it's it's it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► short attention span for that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► thing for that kind of perfectionism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► yeah and also a feeling of of that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► it's illegitimate in the first vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► that i recorded with ken stringfellow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► the producers chair I saying the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► three lines you know for the first three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► words like hey baby I and can push stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► on the machine and I look through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► glass I was like and he said sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► alright let's so let's get the next next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► three words oh no he's a puncher and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► was like oh the next three words so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► pushes record and listen to myself go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► hey baby I and then I'm supposed to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► hmm and he's like stop you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► that was good let's hit you again and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► said can I can't I can't work this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► and he looked at me through the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► was like what you mean this is how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► make records he's never made a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► where you didn't do that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► that was the he's got the motor skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► to be punching in and out that fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► through the eighties and nineties that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► how they made record allow you and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► so just out of curiosity and fall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► computery this is under all this is tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► he's doing this with tape and I bet this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► lab this lasted 45 minutes where I set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► in the mic and said I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► record a bubble this way you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► push record i'll sing the song all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► way through and I'll do it again and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► maybe i'll do it a third time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► we'll pick the one that's the best and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► if they're if there's an out-of-tune no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► out we can punch it in but i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► to go i'm not going to go every three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► words I didn't know they would ever do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► that on a first take on like a trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► get the that was just that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► oh man that was how they recorded all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► those records i think i think you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► to your favorite records from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► eighties and they're all recorded that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► well so that's question about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► though this is a so when people first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► started putting your band a few gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► and you realized you're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► people started quitting my band before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► before the initial lineup even select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► people gotta remember it wasn't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► fashionable to quit your band there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► a time when people were doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► really landmark works and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► overwrite you people that smoke was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► good where were brave they were now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► may pave the way those are some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► yeah good riddance yeah that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► that's true but add so I wonder that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► talked about it a little bit before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► you have a very electric and fun live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► I wonder how much the songwriting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► the studio stuff especially the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► last record do you are you always trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► to prepare for the fact that it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► just two or three of you up there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► you haha no seriously when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► when you're putting the record together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► are you thinking about making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► somewhat reproducible is that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► your constraint is can we do this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► amsterdam on a PA we don't trust well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► every record the long winters have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► has been different from the last and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► obviously the first record we made no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► be able to duplicate those songs live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► and in a lot of cases those songs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► there hard for us to play now the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► record again we made no attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► duplicate it would be to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► duplicate it live and we've struggled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► you know to play them live sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► it's never constrained us like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► there isn't if the live band is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► three-piece band we go out and playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► at three we play the three-piece version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► yeah and we don't it's not like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► reels of tape running behind the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► with all the backing tracks we just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► out there and we're all right on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► Rickenbacker's in a drum kit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► fact that the record has you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► Vienna Boys Choir on it is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► be a problem for us and hopefully it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► isn't a problem for our audience because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► our audience isn't typically made up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► those people who are like with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► doesn't send that the record man very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► forgiving it's that their adventurous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► spirit people that with a spirit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► discovery they come to our shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► they're like what are the loan was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► to give us this time I think on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► the one running out of time the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► record on the most recent record we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► try a little bit more to rein in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► the some of the experiments that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► further afield and make like a rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► roll record but i don't think the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► record we make will will will we we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► met that challenge head-on and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► made that record so now the next record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► we're going to probably really explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGQncU/3041">TS</a>]