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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 07: "The Compulsive Sherry Algorithm"

 

00:00:00   hello hi John how are you hi Maryland's [TS]

00:00:09   are you well her the man was my song for [TS]

00:00:16   you know yet do you wanna ride on my [TS]

00:00:19   John roundover got update that if you [TS]

00:00:23   like it then you should put John nothing [TS]

00:00:25   we should have somebody recorded [TS]

00:00:27   versions of those songs and in fact i [TS]

00:00:28   think given what I've discovered from [TS]

00:00:31   having a podcast with you all I need to [TS]

00:00:33   do is suggest that and by the time [TS]

00:00:36   tomorrow rolls around there will be two [TS]

00:00:38   studio recordings of those songs for [TS]

00:00:42   Lynn man so you don't sit in our power [TS]

00:00:45   of the powers of podcasting social media [TS]

00:00:49   at large social media that's exactly [TS]

00:00:52   that's exactly right social media social [TS]

00:00:54   media [TS]

00:00:55   yeah I have become very a enamored with [TS]

00:00:58   social media because I understand now [TS]

00:01:02   something about it that I didn't used to [TS]

00:01:04   do you remember when I do you remember [TS]

00:01:05   when I called you on the phone this is [TS]

00:01:07   back when I used the phone and I said [TS]

00:01:10   Merlin can you tell me why the long [TS]

00:01:12   winters would need a website and you you [TS]

00:01:17   laughed and laughed you left like you're [TS]

00:01:19   laughing now that's like that's like Ben [TS]

00:01:21   Franklin looking at trying to tell Ben [TS]

00:01:23   Franklin why he might want an iphone 4s [TS]

00:01:26   that iphone 4 there's a lot of [TS]

00:01:28   technological dependencies that we would [TS]

00:01:29   have to unpack when i'm imagining like [TS]

00:01:32   reading off a card got like reading [TS]

00:01:34   glasses on the end of your nose [TS]

00:01:36   why would I little website am i [TS]

00:01:38   pronouncing that correctly but you are [TS]

00:01:41   you did you unpacked it for me over the [TS]

00:01:43   course of many many many long hours of [TS]

00:01:46   scheduling meetings to talk about it [TS]

00:01:49   then we would have to reschedule but [TS]

00:01:52   eventually you did explain why we why we [TS]

00:01:54   needed a website and now fast forward [TS]

00:01:56   several years and here i am a maven of [TS]

00:02:00   social media and I do i use maven right [TS]

00:02:04   I'm not sure I'm going to get that [TS]

00:02:06   tipping point book and I i use those [TS]

00:02:08   terms but I don't understand [TS]

00:02:10   kind of me then yes I use them properly [TS]

00:02:13   yes your your style maker you're like [TS]

00:02:17   that definitely like a guy evoke you're [TS]

00:02:19   like Andre tay the guy used to be on the [TS]

00:02:22   show cindy crawford exactly what you are [TS]

00:02:24   black gay guys vote get it was like [TS]

00:02:28   getting this podcast and not already [TS]

00:02:30   said big black gay guy [TS]

00:02:32   well lucky i usually can constrain [TS]

00:02:34   myself not now couple things about that [TS]

00:02:36   second about you don't even need that [TS]

00:02:38   site so much anymore which makes me sad [TS]

00:02:41   i mean it's a bummer because now all [TS]

00:02:42   this stuff that's happening you know is [TS]

00:02:44   happening on all these other social [TS]

00:02:47   media sites but first i'm wrong but [TS]

00:02:50   nobody needs a website anymore i haven't [TS]

00:02:53   moved beyond websites and we're in a [TS]

00:02:55   post website world that brings me to [TS]

00:02:57   part one in some ways which is I I don't [TS]

00:02:59   remember talking to you about that [TS]

00:03:01   because I say so many things [TS]

00:03:02   yeah I remember I help you make your [TS]

00:03:04   website beat i know i used to i just [TS]

00:03:08   can't no I can't I can't like right now [TS]

00:03:10   I'm sick i've got a virus i think i'm [TS]

00:03:12   sorry No thank you but I mean I think I [TS]

00:03:15   think what marijuana it does not make me [TS]

00:03:18   interesting and into shreds my immune [TS]

00:03:21   system so quickly [TS]

00:03:23   mhm I'm just saying like nobody likes a [TS]

00:03:25   paranoid guys coughing a lot [TS]

00:03:26   well I mean less security [TS]

00:03:30   yeah mmm yeah i got us onto the tea [TS]

00:03:33   party already see how things back now [TS]

00:03:35   here's the thing that way that I learned [TS]

00:03:37   this when i used to have but we're like [TS]

00:03:38   jobs and if you want if you want to do [TS]

00:03:41   something well if you want to do [TS]

00:03:43   something and you think it's a good idea [TS]

00:03:44   obviously one of the things you must do [TS]

00:03:46   is basically offered to do it yourself [TS]

00:03:48   but if you get some some bonehead that [TS]

00:03:51   you gotta convince is something you [TS]

00:03:53   gotta make them think it's their idea [TS]

00:03:54   and we have the the bone her and it's [TS]

00:03:57   completely hypothetical John I say okay [TS]

00:03:58   and so that's why i said to you that now [TS]

00:04:04   i think the two parts is that you guys [TS]

00:04:06   that you've got to show them I'm gonna [TS]

00:04:07   make it seem like the idea but you also [TS]

00:04:09   i think with you i think it's useful to [TS]

00:04:12   show how something [TS]

00:04:15   on the continuum potentially [TS]

00:04:18   theoretically makes you more rather than [TS]

00:04:20   less powerful and i suspect that the [TS]

00:04:22   pitch that made you want to do this was [TS]

00:04:24   control as you would control the message [TS]

00:04:26   you you could decide what you want to [TS]

00:04:29   look like you got you wrote your [TS]

00:04:30   wonderful things for the site i suspect [TS]

00:04:32   that's what it was and that's why i say [TS]

00:04:34   i think it's kind of such a boring [TS]

00:04:37   little just a few minutes okay let's say [TS]

00:04:39   about this like this why this is why i [TS]

00:04:42   like the Facebook thing like bothers me [TS]

00:04:44   the twitter thing like you [TS]

00:04:45   it's so ephemeral and there's really not [TS]

00:04:47   that much incentive to try hard and then [TS]

00:04:51   it kind of just goes away [TS]

00:04:52   so yeah you get to control your [TS]

00:04:53   messaging and like whatever you know be [TS]

00:04:56   a big douche in front of people but you [TS]

00:04:58   don't really own it and the way you deal [TS]

00:04:59   with your insights oh so you but you [TS]

00:05:02   were still using the Royal you you're [TS]

00:05:03   not talking about me I'm always talking [TS]

00:05:06   about you John are just too soon but [TS]

00:05:07   whenever you hear anything positive i'm [TS]

00:05:09   either i'm talking about your I am [TS]

00:05:11   implicitly thank you because i don't [TS]

00:05:13   like to be the douche in that analogy [TS]

00:05:14   but but you know whenever I say anything [TS]

00:05:18   about social medias you know that I'm [TS]

00:05:20   being facetious do I i hope you do ya [TS]

00:05:25   hear you're sick and it's making you a [TS]

00:05:27   little impenetrable now see I'm not that [TS]

00:05:32   sick I i only get like half a hotdog i'm [TS]

00:05:37   having a mexican coke and i'm having [TS]

00:05:40   some water and trying to recover on [TS]

00:05:43   charges but I i tried to do it before i [TS]

00:05:46   got on the phone call let go back to [TS]

00:05:48   that I don't talk about peanut butter [TS]

00:05:49   peanut butters become a very complicated [TS]

00:05:50   topic and I have a lot to ask you about [TS]

00:05:53   that it's huge around around here but I [TS]

00:05:56   don't want to get into that because you [TS]

00:05:57   literally kill people now with the [TS]

00:05:58   peanut butter you know that will [TS]

00:06:00   literally die [TS]

00:06:01   Oh from people that don't have peanut [TS]

00:06:03   allergies that's just one of the things [TS]

00:06:04   that's what like one bullet on what [TS]

00:06:06   let's let's go back to the peanut butter [TS]

00:06:08   okay well and so the website thing [TS]

00:06:10   though is that the social media thing is [TS]

00:06:12   that you know I like social media like [TS]

00:06:14   the idea of this thing where you can [TS]

00:06:16   talk to people but like it should be an [TS]

00:06:17   environment that's conducive to talking [TS]

00:06:19   people talking to people you know like [TS]

00:06:21   talking to people on twitter is weird [TS]

00:06:23   it's it's [TS]

00:06:24   you know I mean regardless of I mean if [TS]

00:06:27   you if you have a relatively like modest [TS]

00:06:29   number of followers and people you [TS]

00:06:31   follow and you really are just there to [TS]

00:06:34   talk to each other well I mean like oh I [TS]

00:06:36   don't know why you wouldn't use aim or [TS]

00:06:38   IRC or something for that but you know [TS]

00:06:41   if you don't have a public conversation [TS]

00:06:42   with somebody okay fine but but you know [TS]

00:06:44   you have a full-service mm that's right [TS]

00:06:46   that's right it's like that that the [TS]

00:06:48   guise of additional husband she did a [TS]

00:06:50   nice job with the singing by the way you [TS]

00:06:52   hear that all of the sports and she's [TS]

00:06:55   saying it to sing at the sports [TS]

00:06:57   no I didn't see it you know what I'm not [TS]

00:06:59   crazy about the way that she sings but [TS]

00:07:01   she did great and you know she didn't [TS]

00:07:04   show some goofy she didn't like [TS]

00:07:06   christina aguilera and she didn't do the [TS]

00:07:08   active think guys like shouldn't do any [TS]

00:07:10   of that bullshit like she's saying the [TS]

00:07:12   fucking song and it was pretty and I [TS]

00:07:14   would just like to say to America if [TS]

00:07:16   you're going to sing the fucking song [TS]

00:07:16   make it pretty [TS]

00:07:17   don't get around don't you come around [TS]

00:07:19   that you know what shuck and jive go to [TS]

00:07:20   go cover paid in full go have some fun [TS]

00:07:22   that's a great song but in this case you [TS]

00:07:24   know what I think we should start doing [TS]

00:07:25   paid in full before a sports event [TS]

00:07:27   well done master flattened ain't nothing [TS]

00:07:31   but that the christina aguilera fication [TS]

00:07:34   of the national anthem started with [TS]

00:07:36   mariah carey she's the one who ruined [TS]

00:07:38   everything right and and it has it has [TS]

00:07:40   spoiled a list the start of sporting [TS]

00:07:44   events for me which used to be a time of [TS]

00:07:46   contemplation it's one of the few times [TS]

00:07:48   you can enjoy a sporting events what has [TS]

00:07:50   started you make a little if you make a [TS]

00:07:52   little steeple with your hands [TS]

00:07:53   who do you think haha yes sports and [TS]

00:07:57   then you put your hand over your heart [TS]

00:07:58   or you take your hat off and then now [TS]

00:08:01   that somebody is like strangling a bag [TS]

00:08:04   of cats [TS]

00:08:05   oh and i think they're fucking Aretha [TS]

00:08:06   Franklin yeah they're not stop doing [TS]

00:08:08   that that's wrong [TS]

00:08:10   I'm glad to hear that so i didn't i [TS]

00:08:12   didn't mangle it but you know she's a [TS]

00:08:14   classy lady she knows right now i know [TS]

00:08:16   i'm just saying i just do you know if [TS]

00:08:18   she's cute as a bug's ear but you know [TS]

00:08:20   sometimes [TS]

00:08:21   whoo-hoo anyway problem with social [TS]

00:08:25   media for me I feel it is ruining my [TS]

00:08:27   brain I I can actually feel my brain [TS]

00:08:29   being ruined and the end of one of the [TS]

00:08:31   complications is that I'm becoming I'm [TS]

00:08:34   an old man now so my brain is it [TS]

00:08:36   being ruined by every a dish additional [TS]

00:08:39   day that it's on the earth right it's [TS]

00:08:41   being bombarded with photons and and I'm [TS]

00:08:45   losing for my Chris anyway but I'm gonna [TS]

00:08:49   stand outside that's a Twitter thing [TS]

00:08:50   that the losing it [TS]

00:08:52   well it's a it's certainly a Twitter [TS]

00:08:54   thing but it's also you know I if you're [TS]

00:08:58   communicating it just in text based [TS]

00:09:02   applications email texting tweets [TS]

00:09:05   Facebook updates which I'm which I [TS]

00:09:07   prefer to do i actually prefer it to [TS]

00:09:10   just speaking to somebody but a problem [TS]

00:09:12   with that is that I'm i get into all [TS]

00:09:13   these I mean I'm gonna have a dozen [TS]

00:09:15   crazy filled with people [TS]

00:09:17   let's start you still steaming oh I'm [TS]

00:09:19   just feeling with everybody feeling with [TS]

00:09:21   gonna believe you I can't believe you [TS]

00:09:23   let yourself be provoked into this thing [TS]

00:09:25   so that's the thing i'm not even [TS]

00:09:26   provoked into the most of the people [TS]

00:09:28   that most of the people i'm feeling with [TS]

00:09:29   have no idea i'm like Tom sharply I'm [TS]

00:09:31   feeling with half the world and they [TS]

00:09:32   don't even know that it's happening i'm [TS]

00:09:35   so mad but it's it's it's just it's a [TS]

00:09:37   it's some kind of reciprocal thing where [TS]

00:09:40   I send out a text and I haven't I have [TS]

00:09:42   some expectation of what the kind of [TS]

00:09:44   text i want to get in return is and when [TS]

00:09:47   i get a different kind of text when [TS]

00:09:49   somebody writes back and goes fine or [TS]

00:09:51   they say see there and what I was [TS]

00:09:53   expecting was some kind of something [TS]

00:09:56   different [TS]

00:09:57   who then it plants the seed plants the [TS]

00:10:00   seed and as for this gets the source of [TS]

00:10:02   the steam the photons well it's the [TS]

00:10:03   beginning of the photons team is that [TS]

00:10:06   and and that's a that's a problem of [TS]

00:10:09   physics right really photons team i [TS]

00:10:12   don't know i don't i mean like you can [TS]

00:10:14   take classes about water and your [TS]

00:10:16   science i think that's best part of that [TS]

00:10:18   you know you can just say another word [TS]

00:10:19   plasticity and don't you know as you get [TS]

00:10:21   all up in your young you know everything [TS]

00:10:23   right turning turning into something [TS]

00:10:26   it's like it's like if i don't know like [TS]

00:10:29   if I'm a bomb back and like Andy Rooney [TS]

00:10:32   just got all fucked up and then had a [TS]

00:10:33   kid like that's me but sick you know and [TS]

00:10:37   i'm turning our baumbach I fucking hate [TS]

00:10:39   it but here's that's not so bad she died [TS]

00:10:42   man she said you know she passed a while [TS]

00:10:44   back she did a lot of people died that [TS]

00:10:47   doesn't mean you're going to die [TS]

00:10:48   Maryland [TS]

00:10:48   I learned about that from malcolm [TS]

00:10:49   gladwell from malcolm gladwell from [TS]

00:10:52   uncle blood well I didn't three years [TS]

00:10:54   knows I'm sorry I apologize no Malcolm [TS]

00:10:56   Gladwell the Kantian hair fake here here [TS]

00:11:00   yeah I know used in Canada you know over [TS]

00:11:05   forty percent of everyone in canada will [TS]

00:11:07   die and one that yes and apparently my [TS]

00:11:11   friends in Canada by now and potentially [TS]

00:11:13   could be going up all the time and um [TS]

00:11:16   there's a long time and I warned this um [TS]

00:11:19   i like most people in that from canada i [TS]

00:11:22   wanted to a restaurant in Canada one [TS]

00:11:24   time and that idea that well first of [TS]

00:11:26   all you're absolutely right there are [TS]

00:11:27   seven kinds of bacon in Canada but it [TS]

00:11:29   was a Mexican restaurant and staffed [TS]

00:11:31   entirely by anglo-saxon can come on they [TS]

00:11:36   got it backwards from our thing [TS]

00:11:37   it's weird no right we talked about this [TS]

00:11:39   you get the Chinese filled with done by [TS]

00:11:40   the Mexican people that you go up there [TS]

00:11:42   you're telling me you go into a [TS]

00:11:44   quote-unquote mexican restaurant in [TS]

00:11:45   canada and it's populated by by like [TS]

00:11:48   western parts of Canada it's absolutely [TS]

00:11:50   true [TS]

00:11:51   I thought hauling that's probably where [TS]

00:11:53   even in washington state here as you [TS]

00:11:55   move over the mountains as you go into [TS]

00:11:57   the more rural parts of the of the state [TS]

00:12:00   you don't have to go that far before all [TS]

00:12:03   of a sudden it you know all of the jobs [TS]

00:12:06   that in the city you you in the city [TS]

00:12:10   these jobs have been held by immigrant [TS]

00:12:12   populations for so long that you just [TS]

00:12:15   you when you see a white teenage kid [TS]

00:12:18   working one of the men working at one of [TS]

00:12:21   these jobs it's a it's a shock to the [TS]

00:12:23   mind because you you haven't seen you [TS]

00:12:26   haven't see I told I tell you what you [TS]

00:12:28   mean no she mean it gets kind of we [TS]

00:12:29   talked about last time of the whole [TS]

00:12:30   later we had worried that ignites take [TS]

00:12:33   waiter it see it is it's disappearing [TS]

00:12:35   tradition little man and he's a waiter [TS]

00:12:37   it's a later thing he knows he knows [TS]

00:12:39   he's a waiter it used to be not amazing [TS]

00:12:41   and it used to be not amazing that a [TS]

00:12:43   white kid would be pushing a broom in a [TS]

00:12:45   restaurant but living in Seattle or San [TS]

00:12:48   Francisco last time you saw a white [TS]

00:12:50   teenager pushing a broom was the [TS]

00:12:53   seventies nexus dad was hitting [TS]

00:12:56   when I was in a hotel a few days ago and [TS]

00:12:59   the housekeeper was a hundred percent [TS]

00:13:00   like Caucasian only up shoes from [TS]

00:13:05   Romania I better or Ukraine uh that [TS]

00:13:08   would be hot [TS]

00:13:08   I I guys seem that it was like an Air [TS]

00:13:11   Marshal thing I figured there was some [TS]

00:13:12   version of air marshals for hotels where [TS]

00:13:14   she was kind of link undercover she was [TS]

00:13:16   watching you are my hope so i dance-like [TS]

00:13:19   she was watching you wait a minute and [TS]

00:13:21   sing like no one could hear i can never [TS]

00:13:22   remember that guy's name who said that [TS]

00:13:24   somebody like baseball age as I can [TS]

00:13:26   remember I was in a hotel in Romania one [TS]

00:13:29   time and though and the UH the the maid [TS]

00:13:33   housekeeper came in to change the sheets [TS]

00:13:36   and she was wearing fishnet stockings [TS]

00:13:41   and as she was changing the sheets so [TS]

00:13:44   I'm sitting in the chair and she's [TS]

00:13:47   changing the sheets on the bed and she's [TS]

00:13:48   bending over at the waist to change the [TS]

00:13:52   sheets on the bed and there's a and her [TS]

00:13:54   fishnet stockings have up there is a [TS]

00:13:57   portion of them in the upper back area [TS]

00:14:00   where the stocking is a stocking part is [TS]

00:14:04   ripped trips to the point of being [TS]

00:14:07   missing entirely and I began to suspect [TS]

00:14:11   using my powers of divination that she [TS]

00:14:15   was a multi-purpose housekeeper [TS]

00:14:19   ah IC but I was very busy at that time [TS]

00:14:24   with a very busy i was very busy with a [TS]

00:14:26   project of my own and so I shoot her way [TS]

00:14:29   choo-choo she also i mean you know if [TS]

00:14:32   that's something that's not bothering [TS]

00:14:33   her i would guess i would guess that in [TS]

00:14:37   a lot of guests have been in that [TS]

00:14:39   particular piece of romania and I so i'd [TS]

00:14:41   be super careful about that right well [TS]

00:14:43   if this was a this was a very very [TS]

00:14:47   off-the-beaten-path part of Romania [TS]

00:14:48   right i think most of her normal guests [TS]

00:14:51   were either other Romanians or german [TS]

00:14:55   sex tourists the bush i hate everywhere [TS]

00:14:58   to that and people mistake people [TS]

00:15:00   mistake me for a german sex first when [TS]

00:15:03   I'm overseas especially when you gotta [TS]

00:15:05   Thailand with rolls of quarters [TS]

00:15:07   well i just looked like one for some [TS]

00:15:08   reason [TS]

00:15:09   and when other when an actual german sex [TS]

00:15:12   tourists see me in foreign countries [TS]

00:15:14   they always like a beeline for me sidle [TS]

00:15:17   up to it like so are you doing and why I [TS]

00:15:21   don't know why I'm talking like a weird [TS]

00:15:23   count chocula was tucking my always [TS]

00:15:26   under my normal at all right I see Larry [TS]

00:15:29   wonder what advice would you like to [TS]

00:15:30   submit a boy I'd turned into a [TS]

00:15:32   Transylvanian pimp but no thanks I'll up [TS]

00:15:37   and i'm not even gonna try German accent [TS]

00:15:39   store now and I don't german sex to [TS]

00:15:41   recycling it was just stop it right [TS]

00:15:42   there [TS]

00:15:43   it's crazy it's crazy let's sit with [TS]

00:15:45   them you know III you accidentally fine [TS]

00:15:47   German Foreign sometimes I don't [TS]

00:15:49   understand how babies ever get made [TS]

00:15:51   because from what I can tell they hit [TS]

00:15:52   each other and poop and then after the [TS]

00:15:54   entire thing they don't know where so [TS]

00:15:55   much so much poop and it's like you know [TS]

00:15:58   I I don't want to see that and I i I've [TS]

00:16:02   tried to put things in place where I'll [TS]

00:16:04   see less of that but like you know you [TS]

00:16:06   just gotta get comfortable with the fact [TS]

00:16:08   that you're just going to see a lot of [TS]

00:16:09   cocks and you know what I'm fine with [TS]

00:16:11   that the big ol big old beaver what I'm [TS]

00:16:13   trying to find a record by the kinks [TS]

00:16:15   mine don't want I don't want I don't [TS]

00:16:18   want to see a very important face like i [TS]

00:16:20   don't and i can see that there's a lot [TS]

00:16:23   of you know that phrase I can't unsee [TS]

00:16:24   that who I used to hear that and wonder [TS]

00:16:28   what the help more time but like what [TS]

00:16:29   are you talking about appearing on the [TS]

00:16:31   plan for 40 years there's nothing i want [TS]

00:16:32   to unsee right because I've never been [TS]

00:16:35   witness to a genocide or anything but [TS]

00:16:38   the last six months I have started [TS]

00:16:41   actually searching the internet not [TS]

00:16:43   searching the internet but but trolling [TS]

00:16:45   the internet in a way that I never you [TS]

00:16:47   troubling are trawling em like ru ru has [TS]

00:16:51   like some kind of a gill net thing [TS]

00:16:52   you're doing are you literally walking [TS]

00:16:54   around going [TS]

00:16:55   your ass is fat justin bieber all-new [TS]

00:16:58   show like that i'm not trolling it but [TS]

00:17:00   you know I used to I used to just go to [TS]

00:17:03   Wikipedia and read it all night and then [TS]

00:17:06   you know and then I put some slippers [TS]

00:17:09   and take a bath and now i'm actually [TS]

00:17:11   going further out open you keep bringing [TS]

00:17:13   up for Chan I think for chance at big [TS]

00:17:15   unsee it kind of late and that's the [TS]

00:17:17   problem I you are you looking for change [TS]

00:17:19   on it doesn't make a lick of sense but [TS]

00:17:21   it does because because I have [TS]

00:17:23   iris you might have a virus you should [TS]

00:17:24   check out the virus right now i have is [TS]

00:17:26   a mac and they're impenetrable no no I [TS]

00:17:28   mean in your brain [TS]

00:17:29   I mean do you have a brain virus i want [TS]

00:17:31   to come back to that because i think you [TS]

00:17:32   get steamy photons and a lack of [TS]

00:17:34   plasticity and i wanna talk about [TS]

00:17:36   magical thinking so let me get back to [TS]

00:17:38   that it was your on 4chan well-organized [TS]

00:17:40   everybody's everybody's being silly that [TS]

00:17:42   follows you know you you go from there [TS]

00:17:44   out into this other this darker world [TS]

00:17:46   and they're terrible things on the [TS]

00:17:49   internet just terrible where I'm where I [TS]

00:17:52   think to myself I do wish i had could [TS]

00:17:54   unsee that now i wish i could unthink [TS]

00:17:57   that idea because it is not it's an [TS]

00:18:00   ideal you can sit and think about stuff [TS]

00:18:02   you can think about the silence of the [TS]

00:18:04   lambs and say oh but it puts the it puts [TS]

00:18:09   the lotion on the skin but when you see [TS]

00:18:12   people out in the world who are acting [TS]

00:18:16   out these fantasies are you see you even [TS]

00:18:18   even if the videos are fake and I saw a [TS]

00:18:20   video the other day of a guy some one of [TS]

00:18:23   these Mexican gangsters cutting a guy's [TS]

00:18:25   head off with a chainsaw and the guy was [TS]

00:18:28   still alive [TS]

00:18:29   oh I what makes you click the button on [TS]

00:18:32   that John well yeah because there's a [TS]

00:18:34   part of me that does but here's why I go [TS]

00:18:36   here's where testing your testing your [TS]

00:18:37   boundaries that we had no it's not that [TS]

00:18:39   it's that it's that that's that the idea [TS]

00:18:41   of anonymous is very appealing to me [TS]

00:18:45   because I feel like everything [TS]

00:18:48   everybody's doing on the internet now is [TS]

00:18:50   a form of look at me look at me like [TS]

00:18:53   ever there are so many concentric [TS]

00:18:55   circles of famous and everybody I mean [TS]

00:19:00   literally everybody i encounter on the [TS]

00:19:02   internet is trying to expand their [TS]

00:19:04   circle of famous try next larger circle [TS]

00:19:07   of famous I think you to do that to John [TS]

00:19:09   Hodgman his wife 60 times so that's why [TS]

00:19:11   i remember hearing that describes that [TS]

00:19:15   it's that whole bridge the whole premise [TS]

00:19:17   of just like yes you know follow me look [TS]

00:19:19   at me [TS]

00:19:20   here look what I did look what I did and [TS]

00:19:21   so the idea of anonymous which is that [TS]

00:19:24   people are doing something and there's [TS]

00:19:26   no and there's no possible way for them [TS]

00:19:29   to a crew same to themselves their did [TS]

00:19:33   it appealed to me because I think [TS]

00:19:36   maybe there's some genuine maybe there's [TS]

00:19:39   some genuine material being a created [TS]

00:19:43   that that that that anonymity wipes away [TS]

00:19:47   some of the uselessness of what people [TS]

00:19:52   are saying you even when i read [TS]

00:19:54   something that's really good now i have [TS]

00:19:57   to contextualize it in within the within [TS]

00:20:00   the framework of this person said that [TS]

00:20:02   in order to direct attention to their [TS]

00:20:06   tumblr page which is directing you know [TS]

00:20:08   which eventually they're going to try [TS]

00:20:10   and sell ads on or something [TS]

00:20:12   yeah no I'm i completely disagree about [TS]

00:20:15   the first part III almost totally agree [TS]

00:20:17   on the second part I think you're [TS]

00:20:19   totally right and you can start again [TS]

00:20:21   I don't remember is totally exhausted [TS]

00:20:22   its totally exhausting and like I have [TS]

00:20:25   some friends who really are [TS]

00:20:27   uh I assume and ironically into all of [TS]

00:20:30   this social whatever it is you know [TS]

00:20:33   whatever i'm not that old guy i get like [TS]

00:20:35   what a lot of this isn't fun and I'm [TS]

00:20:37   kind of good at parts of it but like the [TS]

00:20:39   whole like checking into foursquare [TS]

00:20:40   thing and then you check into foursquare [TS]

00:20:42   and then that goes on the Facebook and [TS]

00:20:44   Facebook is on it's like it's you know [TS]

00:20:46   it's bullshit all the way down and it's [TS]

00:20:48   like pretty seems like where is what you [TS]

00:20:50   know it's just you're constantly armed [TS]

00:20:52   your ass is about to quit myself from [TS]

00:20:56   twitter but I'm not gonna let you know [TS]

00:20:58   you're constantly trying to find some [TS]

00:20:59   way that like arm [TS]

00:21:01   I mean everybody in some ways we know [TS]

00:21:03   you want to be noticed and you want to [TS]

00:21:05   be liked and you want to be admired [TS]

00:21:07   but the I just want to be feared I don't [TS]

00:21:09   I don't want to be liked or admired I [TS]

00:21:11   just want to be feared [TS]

00:21:12   you should cut off some dudes head with [TS]

00:21:14   a chainsaw to be like yeah I could use [TS]

00:21:17   instead of the myth because decency [TS]

00:21:18   busters you could have a show we just do [TS]

00:21:20   all kinds of hauling stuff always any [TS]

00:21:22   investments [TS]

00:21:23   yeah and you could happen you could go [TS]

00:21:26   anywhere and be anonymous at all I [TS]

00:21:30   haven't I am Otto determine sex to the [TS]

00:21:33   anonymity [TS]

00:21:34   mmm [TS]

00:21:35   chocolatey ma good yeah here's watch [TS]

00:21:40   this woman fall down and the first to [TS]

00:21:42   eat poop [TS]

00:21:43   yeah there's poop all over her now I'm [TS]

00:21:45   going to kill her with now i have put a [TS]

00:21:47   picture of the cat on her and they'll be [TS]

00:21:49   like Arnold Schwarzenegger I don't have [TS]

00:21:51   my accent it's completely gone to shit i [TS]

00:21:54   have to i used to be so good at that [TS]

00:21:56   I don't know do things that have filled [TS]

00:21:57   me with fear in recent days and one is [TS]

00:22:00   somebody posted a thing on my facebook [TS]

00:22:03   page and i replied to it and they [TS]

00:22:06   supposed to admit that they didn't send [TS]

00:22:08   me a message right they had to post it [TS]

00:22:10   on my page and i got a phone call 20 [TS]

00:22:13   minutes later from somebody pissed off [TS]

00:22:15   about some piece of information that was [TS]

00:22:19   that some one confirmed piece of [TS]

00:22:21   information that was posted by a [TS]

00:22:23   relative stranger on my facebook page [TS]

00:22:26   and I was like oh right this compulsive [TS]

00:22:29   sherry algorithm that facebook is is [TS]

00:22:34   that s ages for my card [TS]

00:22:36   Sh ar e dash y yeah i would put this [TS]

00:22:40   compulsive sherry algorithm says yeah I [TS]

00:22:43   think that's a on this one is elephant 6 [TS]

00:22:45   records my love those guys hate that [TS]

00:22:49   before they all well lit the report [TS]

00:22:51   somewhere but I don't like Olivia [TS]

00:22:54   control control have found a porch and [TS]

00:22:56   all those guys all live under report to [TS]

00:22:58   change their name and got a theremin [TS]

00:22:59   anything that was the thing about [TS]

00:23:00   elephant six it after two records you [TS]

00:23:03   have to go live under report is that [TS]

00:23:04   right yeah and then all tomorrow's [TS]

00:23:07   parties would call you back up and you'd [TS]

00:23:09   be the greatest thing that ever happened [TS]

00:23:10   but i want to say your not Bruce Vilanch [TS]

00:23:12   I think you might be the Bruce Vilanch [TS]

00:23:14   of your vertical space if somebody if [TS]

00:23:17   another person says Bruce Vilanch around [TS]

00:23:18   me i'm going to come to have a hissy fit [TS]

00:23:20   and channel share the radio Twitter and [TS]

00:23:23   pop them in the nose [TS]

00:23:24   I cut down any more cards I want to come [TS]

00:23:27   back to so many things I but anyway so [TS]

00:23:29   the couple make sure we close this [TS]

00:23:30   thread on Bruce Vilanch could have a lot [TS]

00:23:31   of questions I want to talk about [TS]

00:23:32   magical thinking I want I don't want [TS]

00:23:34   talk about 4chan of the tea party but I [TS]

00:23:36   feel like I need to write more things [TS]

00:23:37   down [TS]

00:23:38   I don't interrupt you John your flow but [TS]

00:23:40   you're also know I understand you want [TS]

00:23:42   to be fearful but right now two things [TS]

00:23:43   carry a full feared I don't want to be [TS]

00:23:46   fearful you're scared about two things [TS]

00:23:47   this weekend you want [TS]

00:23:48   fearless somebody released information [TS]

00:23:51   on your Facebook page and you gotta call [TS]

00:23:56   I got a phone call an angry phone call [TS]

00:23:58   from somebody who is close enough to me [TS]

00:24:00   to have my phone number saying i read [TS]

00:24:02   this thing that came up in my facebook [TS]

00:24:03   feed and i was like Christ so I I went [TS]

00:24:07   on my facebook page immediately and [TS]

00:24:09   changing all the settings so that it [TS]

00:24:11   doesn't share anything with anybody you [TS]

00:24:13   basically my facebook page now is [TS]

00:24:14   completely closed system where only i [TS]

00:24:16   can see it and it's just i just i'm [TS]

00:24:19   going to go in there and run around [TS]

00:24:21   naked I guess throwing my poop in the [TS]

00:24:23   air I got the other thing I hear is me [TS]

00:24:26   and this is back to 4chan who watched [TS]

00:24:28   those freaking kids on 4chan ruin [TS]

00:24:31   people's lives [TS]

00:24:32   that's what the whole idea is this is [TS]

00:24:33   why we must stop talking about it right [TS]

00:24:35   now you're right you're not supposed to [TS]

00:24:37   talk about it [TS]

00:24:38   well I you know it'sit's we know when [TS]

00:24:40   those nuclear war type things but yeah [TS]

00:24:42   the fact but oh I know what i was [TS]

00:24:44   talking about the fact that your phone [TS]

00:24:45   and everything puts a little GPS code on [TS]

00:24:49   every picture you take yeah there are [TS]

00:24:51   people out there who will come to your [TS]

00:24:52   house [TS]

00:24:53   yeah I mean there's somebody put out a [TS]

00:24:55   really creepy app that would basically [TS]

00:24:57   but it fascinating proof-of-concept I [TS]

00:25:00   mean that's part of the problem a lot of [TS]

00:25:01   this stuff is that that a lot of people [TS]

00:25:05   our age don't get or in my case don't [TS]

00:25:07   love is is that there's an extremely [TS]

00:25:10   interesting technology that's really [TS]

00:25:12   just showing you something isn't hacking [TS]

00:25:15   or cracking anything it's just showing [TS]

00:25:17   you what you've done [TS]

00:25:19   like in public and so it was really [TS]

00:25:21   super creepy but like this this somebody [TS]

00:25:23   put out one person put out a thing that [TS]

00:25:25   basically has a little regular [TS]

00:25:26   expression thing that like sweeps [TS]

00:25:28   twitter for indications that they aren't [TS]

00:25:30   at home and it is a webpage we could [TS]

00:25:32   find out who's not at their house are [TS]

00:25:34   you are you putting this metadata up on [TS]

00:25:37   our little metadata box or you're not [TS]

00:25:39   doing that anymore you're not doing that [TS]

00:25:41   anymore with me right now [TS]

00:25:42   yeah I don't remember in the early days [TS]

00:25:44   of this podcast 10 look more day to mark [TS]

00:25:46   look more what where do i click more [TS]

00:25:49   coral go like a detail page sorry John [TS]

00:25:51   go to the go to the website which [TS]

00:25:54   website [TS]

00:25:54   I'm so angry [TS]

00:25:55   here's the thing there's is yes that's [TS]

00:26:00   got to get the EXIF data you got the [TS]

00:26:01   location date and all that stuff it's [TS]

00:26:03   just you know sometimes i think it's [TS]

00:26:05   it's a shame that we can't divorce the [TS]

00:26:07   awfulness of what people are doing with [TS]

00:26:09   some of this stuff from the fact that [TS]

00:26:10   their stuff we can learn from it [TS]

00:26:12   my for example and this is really boring [TS]

00:26:14   so I don't know this is an educational [TS]

00:26:16   podcast I'm I'm I've been reading the [TS]

00:26:18   reviews I worry my concern is that is in [TS]

00:26:21   as as much as you would like to help [TS]

00:26:24   everybody [TS]

00:26:25   or perhaps that you demand everybody [TS]

00:26:27   helped drive it slightly differently [TS]

00:26:29   thats collecting service or you might [TS]

00:26:31   concern for you John is I i don't i [TS]

00:26:33   don't want the plasticity of your [TS]

00:26:34   photons to become too watered down and [TS]

00:26:37   my concern is that if you help people [TS]

00:26:39   who truly is not that they don't need [TS]

00:26:41   help but they they can't be helped in a [TS]

00:26:44   way that scales [TS]

00:26:45   my concern is a lot of people are going [TS]

00:26:46   to miss out on being set straight by you [TS]

00:26:47   and I think that we can't afford that we [TS]

00:26:49   can't afford that you get too wrapped up [TS]

00:26:51   you go into some you start you start [TS]

00:26:52   wrestling some fucking tar baby and you [TS]

00:26:54   are not going to be able to go set [TS]

00:26:55   people straight that are causing a lot [TS]

00:26:57   of problems for me in particular happen [TS]

00:26:59   to me you're absolutely right you've [TS]

00:27:00   seen this before I seen the tar-baby [TS]

00:27:02   yeah i do i get tangled up your prayer [TS]

00:27:05   you're a bear Roderick I'm Broderick is [TS]

00:27:07   that you don't think anyone is thinking [TS]

00:27:08   maybe that was that calls the tales of [TS]

00:27:10   the South southern racism [TS]

00:27:12   what's that called us out song the sound [TS]

00:27:14   right south and I got into an [TS]

00:27:15   interesting conversation about it the [TS]

00:27:17   other day because they look we have [TS]

00:27:18   facebook not on Facebook this was [TS]

00:27:20   actually having a cafe Kevin wrote an [TS]

00:27:22   article for the Seattle Weekly is your [TS]

00:27:25   reverb this is the reverb jobs in my [TS]

00:27:27   instapaper haven't read it yet i always [TS]

00:27:29   enjoy when you get that please go ahead [TS]

00:27:30   but it wasn't so i made a comment so i [TS]

00:27:32   quoted i quoted somebody that i had a [TS]

00:27:35   Twitter exchange with and and it she was [TS]

00:27:39   like a she made some point about [TS]

00:27:42   feminism that women somehow er yeah you [TS]

00:27:46   know second-class citizens or something [TS]

00:27:48   that is that like an essential oil or [TS]

00:27:50   minerals and seven museum don't remember [TS]

00:27:51   there was that there is a great cover of [TS]

00:27:54   like bust magazine where they said it's [TS]

00:27:57   been you know it's the 30th anniversary [TS]

00:27:58   of feminism and they misspelled feminism [TS]

00:28:01   and now way that i was i was working at [TS]

00:28:05   a magazine like bra-burning meets [TS]

00:28:07   magnesium it was so great [TS]

00:28:09   Germany's IAM what on the driver [TS]

00:28:11   actually yeah actually have the copy of [TS]

00:28:13   it because it [TS]

00:28:14   I don't know what it said it's not that [TS]

00:28:15   I wasn't trying to prove the point that [TS]

00:28:17   people that put out feminist magazines [TS]

00:28:20   don't know how to spell feminism that's [TS]

00:28:22   not the point I was trying to prove it [TS]

00:28:24   was just a nice thing that was like my [TS]

00:28:26   Braille Playboy's it was something that [TS]

00:28:27   I like to keep around but anyway so i [TS]

00:28:30   made some guy was talking i'm sitting [TS]

00:28:31   around they'll talk about separate bro [TS]

00:28:33   playboys [TS]

00:28:34   well Playboy's any good um I was talking [TS]

00:28:38   to some rock musicians and I said I got [TS]

00:28:40   into this the this this gal was angry at [TS]

00:28:43   me for misquoting her in this article i [TS]

00:28:46   wrote about a Twitter exchange that we [TS]

00:28:48   had when I called her a fake feminist [TS]

00:28:50   and the rock musicians I was talking to [TS]

00:28:53   said oh is it girl so-and-so and it was [TS]

00:28:59   they called her out she's a she's some [TS]

00:29:01   she's like a feminist critic music [TS]

00:29:04   critic and I have nothing against her [TS]

00:29:07   personally or against her feminine easy [TS]

00:29:10   mhmm but I'm uh now I've lost completely [TS]

00:29:14   lost my don't show up at the thing was [TS]

00:29:16   your reverb and you're talking to meet [TS]

00:29:18   musicians and something's gonna happen [TS]

00:29:23   try to guess what the story she finds [TS]

00:29:25   out you were talking about her though [TS]

00:29:26   she was mad yeah right [TS]

00:29:28   oh my god the photons are pouring out of [TS]

00:29:31   my ears right now that's what I want to [TS]

00:29:32   get back to measure thinking I have a on [TS]

00:29:34   it's like a photon fall you know what [TS]

00:29:36   you need anything I'm gonna send you [TS]

00:29:37   some index cards [TS]

00:29:38   oh wow i am at index cards in years not [TS]

00:29:41   since i did my book report on the life [TS]

00:29:44   of a cell [TS]

00:29:45   haven't I ever given you index cards at [TS]

00:29:46   all that was me actually giving you i'm [TS]

00:29:49   giving you a lot of index cards again I [TS]

00:29:51   think giving eric index cards [TS]

00:29:52   I'm not Eric index cards and i think i [TS]

00:29:54   might I'm embarrassed to say this I [TS]

00:29:56   might have given Eric my index cards [TS]

00:29:58   that you get that's fine that's fine [TS]

00:29:59   it's it's fine especially in the sense [TS]

00:30:02   that now you're struggling and now who's [TS]

00:30:04   the matching is now that's what i'm [TS]

00:30:05   saying which I had index cards around [TS]

00:30:07   capturing all of this and in a text [TS]

00:30:09   optimized unless you text analyze their [TS]

00:30:11   own different cards but and so the [TS]

00:30:14   feminism is bust magazine [TS]

00:30:16   yeah thats right thats a lady magazine [TS]

00:30:19   and the carton is ironic or [TS]

00:30:21   was a satirical or ironic what kind of [TS]

00:30:23   name is that bus oh I think that that [TS]

00:30:25   would be ironic time [TS]

00:30:27   yeah um and I'm not even sure of buses [TS]

00:30:30   still in print which would add a further [TS]

00:30:32   level of irony to the name bust because [TS]

00:30:36   they may have gone by I seeking an [TS]

00:30:38   attorney now what about grandi know are [TS]

00:30:39   there any granting your magazines while [TS]

00:30:42   there was a grand Royal i love grand [TS]

00:30:46   Royal yeah I love grand Royal i love Ben [TS]

00:30:48   is dead [TS]

00:30:49   grand Royal was seriously the one where [TS]

00:30:52   mike d put on the mullet wig and went to [TS]

00:30:54   GI t that was awesome it was is I think [TS]

00:30:57   that's the sleep scratch perry issue i [TS]

00:31:00   still have it it's just it's so fucking [TS]

00:31:02   great [TS]

00:31:03   yeah and the might you know the guy the [TS]

00:31:05   guy that once kids to write in the [TS]

00:31:06   mission did the mic magazine you [TS]

00:31:08   remember might I was a massive fan of my [TS]

00:31:11   i might make them fight to it i drive to [TS]

00:31:13   the store and buy Mike magazine that [TS]

00:31:15   might might pretend that who's the kid [TS]

00:31:17   from eight is enough they pretended that [TS]

00:31:19   he died oh sure yeah yeahs Adam rich it [TS]

00:31:22   was Adam Richman it was before it was [TS]

00:31:24   just the beginning of the internet and I [TS]

00:31:27   really a year is before analogy to make [TS]

00:31:29   your point in there [TS]

00:31:30   this is not a heavy internet periods [TS]

00:31:31   before you would have these back you [TS]

00:31:33   know this is more in the tradition of [TS]

00:31:35   spiders and bubble yum Mikey and pop [TS]

00:31:37   rocks kind of shit right there is what [TS]

00:31:39   that this was it was certainly before [TS]

00:31:40   the internet existed for me but it it [TS]

00:31:43   was in advance of what became a kind of [TS]

00:31:45   internet-based pranking but this was [TS]

00:31:49   real [TS]

00:31:50   in the flesh pranking in a magazine so [TS]

00:31:54   not in the flesh [TS]

00:31:55   it was real in the magazine pranking and [TS]

00:31:58   it was an oniony it wasn't something [TS]

00:32:00   well and especially in the sense that [TS]

00:32:01   the headlines are funding the stories [TS]

00:32:02   weren't it was it was it was it seemed [TS]

00:32:05   plausible like they talk to people and [TS]

00:32:08   there was not that kind of like Oh [TS]

00:32:09   overly winking I mean I guess there was [TS]

00:32:11   you really stood back and looked at but [TS]

00:32:13   people if you took one foot one step one [TS]

00:32:15   foot back from my magazine and realize [TS]

00:32:18   that everything in it was was yeah but [TS]

00:32:20   the name a theme like every did they [TS]

00:32:22   have themes themes they didn't I feel so [TS]

00:32:25   bad I so stupid it's not bad it's stupid [TS]

00:32:28   stupid isn't bad but I feel stupid [TS]

00:32:30   because I was [TS]

00:32:33   I had every original dave eggers [TS]

00:32:37   publication in my hands at the time [TS]

00:32:40   first edition mcsweeney's issue number [TS]

00:32:43   one all that stuff that's now worth I [TS]

00:32:45   mean I could probably buy i could [TS]

00:32:48   probably buy a small economy car with [TS]

00:32:51   all that stuff if i had had the presence [TS]

00:32:54   of mind to just keep it or couple boys [TS]

00:32:57   instead of giving it away i buy a couple [TS]

00:32:59   of boys we have to have to get it suck [TS]

00:33:02   your German friends but my centuries [TS]

00:33:04   sextours money it's like a private [TS]

00:33:06   thoughts amazon is prime for that my [TS]

00:33:09   thing with my thing with boys there was [TS]

00:33:11   a while there I tried to be attracted to [TS]

00:33:13   boys like an ad like and Thomas mon-kind [TS]

00:33:15   away [TS]

00:33:17   well yeah sort of inner inner like that [TS]

00:33:18   Death in Venice is a Greek um nauseam [TS]

00:33:21   kind of well yeah sure but a but it just [TS]

00:33:24   didn't take and I and I and I feel in [TS]

00:33:26   some ways that i can't really be a [TS]

00:33:27   public intellectual unless there's a [TS]

00:33:29   part of me that's like that wants to [TS]

00:33:31   educate young boys and you got no X's in [TS]

00:33:34   your buggery column is your problem when [TS]

00:33:36   you're going to look at a lot of those [TS]

00:33:37   guys and you sure there's some good for [TS]

00:33:39   you or something for the younger I I [TS]

00:33:40   think you might be onto something but i [TS]

00:33:42   think part of the concern is that you [TS]

00:33:43   have a very very quick mind and you're [TS]

00:33:45   very impatient with children so not good [TS]

00:33:48   children like ours but like all the [TS]

00:33:49   other children now we are not good and [TS]

00:33:51   my concern is like you be sitting around [TS]

00:33:53   and you would start talking you start [TS]

00:33:55   talking about British steel and they'd [TS]

00:33:58   say do you want me to fellate you and [TS]

00:34:00   you say no listen I want to talk about [TS]

00:34:02   this [TS]

00:34:02   well i don't think a young man come to [TS]

00:34:04   adulthood but no one safe for a pretty [TS]

00:34:06   to say make make make candy canes bang [TS]

00:34:08   that it would be important to be broken [TS]

00:34:11   English sure how that was i I remember [TS]

00:34:13   being a teenage boy and I don't remember [TS]

00:34:15   ever asking an adult if they would like [TS]

00:34:17   me to do anything so do your homework [TS]

00:34:20   right i think i think that's a I think [TS]

00:34:23   that's uh that's another example of [TS]

00:34:25   adult fantasy world where kids are like [TS]

00:34:27   me I thought you sir [TS]

00:34:29   right fact there's what they're playing [TS]

00:34:31   the playstation tues and the adult has [TS]

00:34:34   to come in and actually whack them on [TS]

00:34:36   the head with the penis and say right [TS]

00:34:39   now [TS]

00:34:40   yeah yeah exactly like if you if you [TS]

00:34:42   wanna play Galaga you're gonna have to [TS]

00:34:44   you know get it [TS]

00:34:46   that's right [TS]

00:34:47   don't fear the reaper but none of that [TS]

00:34:48   interest me what I what I think what [TS]

00:34:50   these kids need is to learn more about [TS]

00:34:52   Judas Priest and the Thirty Years War [TS]

00:34:54   you said this to me and John rocky said [TS]

00:34:56   you said that I needed that strong male [TS]

00:34:58   figure not pulling on this one has [TS]

00:35:00   Conway whack you on the head with his [TS]

00:35:02   penis [TS]

00:35:03   it's possible that he's everything I'm [TS]

00:35:05   the student I don't feel like I'm in a [TS]

00:35:06   position to say oh I don't want to learn [TS]

00:35:08   that kind of math oh you know science is [TS]

00:35:12   more important history sold why bother [TS]

00:35:14   could you please stop hitting me [TS]

00:35:15   literally with your penis right i feel [TS]

00:35:17   like i am not the one who gets to pick [TS]

00:35:18   the syllabus for that right now I may [TS]

00:35:20   not like the reserve reading but on some [TS]

00:35:22   level you know as I may have to [TS]

00:35:23   sometimes you have to kneel to rise if [TS]

00:35:26   you're in my charge and I decided the [TS]

00:35:28   lesson plan for today is a little bit of [TS]

00:35:31   penis penis circulate important related [TS]

00:35:34   material and that's got you you're right [TS]

00:35:37   you don't get to you don't get to choose [TS]

00:35:38   you don't get to choose which parts of [TS]

00:35:40   military school you like and what parts [TS]

00:35:43   are fun and which parts you want to take [TS]

00:35:45   a pass on i was on the drill team [TS]

00:35:46   military school that doesn't mean it's [TS]

00:35:48   not the girl with the big thighs you [TS]

00:35:49   spend the batons III time marched in [TS]

00:35:51   close to order with a gun so so here's [TS]

00:35:54   the other thing John I just want to hear [TS]

00:35:55   em like tap I watched you know what you [TS]

00:35:58   do not want to show a bunch of boys in [TS]

00:36:00   military school [TS]

00:36:01   I'm a movie set in a military school you [TS]

00:36:04   start apps when you were in military [TS]

00:36:06   honors a little bit older than that but [TS]

00:36:07   like what was the one to add Damien omen [TS]

00:36:10   200 men involved involved military [TS]

00:36:12   school [TS]

00:36:13   I think our up the Academy the Mad [TS]

00:36:16   Magazine movie there are there are a lot [TS]

00:36:20   of movies involving and it's like that [TS]

00:36:22   been on letterman in the first season of [TS]

00:36:23   Letterman were Letterman and this is an [TS]

00:36:25   ongoing bit that have such a clear [TS]

00:36:27   recollection another watermelons off a [TS]

00:36:29   three-story building that's pretty funny [TS]

00:36:31   that was later on [TS]

00:36:32   now he would do movie reviews and one i [TS]

00:36:34   remember is hitting a movie review of [TS]

00:36:36   Flashdance by a professional welder [TS]

00:36:39   right on [TS]

00:36:41   he just showed he wasn't like [TS]

00:36:44   over-the-top it wasn't like a bit he was [TS]

00:36:45   started gotta know me I wouldn't want a [TS]

00:36:47   job without having long flowing black [TS]

00:36:49   hair coming out of it [TS]

00:36:50   that's no way to like that that's the [TS]

00:36:52   wrong temperature of that kind of metal [TS]

00:36:53   like you know the thing is the point [TS]

00:36:55   being that like you go and ask you know [TS]

00:36:58   it if he if you get you if you go to the [TS]

00:37:01   people who understand what's on the [TS]

00:37:02   screen like they're gonna tell you [TS]

00:37:03   whether that makes any sense or not you [TS]

00:37:05   know they're gonna go oh now that guy's [TS]

00:37:07   got an SS thing on when he's actually in [TS]

00:37:10   this you know Luftwaffe thing or [TS]

00:37:12   whatever right [TS]

00:37:13   you know don't you write exactly you [TS]

00:37:15   know you know a German uniform but [TS]

00:37:17   here's the thing [TS]

00:37:18   there's also a lot of posters out there [TS]

00:37:19   who are just going to get away with it [TS]

00:37:20   right now me I know I was what i would [TS]

00:37:23   watch a military school movie on the [TS]

00:37:25   show I'm going with this but I'm gonna [TS]

00:37:27   assume it's somewhere and I would you [TS]

00:37:28   know what that is bullshit right there [TS]

00:37:30   just happened that way it is long and [TS]

00:37:32   every way like you guys were not dressed [TS]

00:37:33   right i mean just wasn't dressed right [TS]

00:37:34   let's get you were not in line like you [TS]

00:37:37   are you there you there was no pattern [TS]

00:37:39   to what they're doing they're just [TS]

00:37:40   fucking actors fucking walking around in [TS]

00:37:41   pants that's not marching right so [TS]

00:37:44   here's the thing i think a lot of [TS]

00:37:46   pederasty in literature and culture is a [TS]

00:37:48   little bit fake right [TS]

00:37:50   I think it's that movie yeah yeah I [TS]

00:37:52   think it's one of those things were like [TS]

00:37:53   how was that great Tom Wolfe [TS]

00:37:55   sa-something something that mouse was [TS]

00:37:58   the one where they had a letter [TS]

00:37:59   Bernstein had the Black Panther a [TS]

00:38:00   benefit you read that it's really it's [TS]

00:38:03   really great that the total indictment [TS]

00:38:06   of what you know the kind of fleece [TS]

00:38:07   people nowadays but the ridge you know [TS]

00:38:09   little guys a lot of trouble for that [TS]

00:38:10   because he talked about it because it [TS]

00:38:12   wasn't true [TS]

00:38:13   well no just because it because the tone [TS]

00:38:15   of it you know you know fun with my band [TS]

00:38:17   scene you know what I mean yeah well but [TS]

00:38:21   yeah he was in hot water is that right [TS]

00:38:24   yeah [TS]

00:38:25   my house is the thing about his [TS]

00:38:26   interesting thing that you looking like [TS]

00:38:28   that parents are you nor I were a gay [TS]

00:38:30   teenager know and so it emits entirely [TS]

00:38:34   possible that for practical purposes i [TS]

00:38:36   was almost a sexual I was like yeah it [TS]

00:38:38   is you know what not even non-sexually [TS]

00:38:40   shouldn't ignore it sex in it [TS]

00:38:42   yeah if I was just I was you know I mean [TS]

00:38:46   even that the the masturbation and I was [TS]

00:38:48   doing was so depraved that it was not [TS]

00:38:50   even on a sexuality level it was not it [TS]

00:38:52   was something that not procreative [TS]

00:38:53   you're just you're just a [TS]

00:38:55   performing frontage on on a hollowed-out [TS]

00:38:58   tree [TS]

00:38:59   yeah i mean that's just beyond anger [TS]

00:39:02   there may be a lot of em 25-year old [TS]

00:39:06   towels running around in florida that [TS]

00:39:09   I'm I'm responsible for and I haven't [TS]

00:39:11   paid for school i haven't done any that [TS]

00:39:13   are you best is gonna be dad pederasty [TS]

00:39:16   and the fake pederasty I want to come [TS]

00:39:18   back to interrupt you because it sounds [TS]

00:39:19   like you're going somewhere I all I'm [TS]

00:39:20   trying to say is there's a rich history [TS]

00:39:21   of this right is a rich history of [TS]

00:39:23   you've got to go [TS]

00:39:25   could be that you're taking snuff it [TS]

00:39:27   could be that not like it's not a movie [TS]

00:39:29   although I want to talk about that to [TS]

00:39:30   talk about this movie I just heard about [TS]

00:39:31   you come back to come back to the Grand [TS]

00:39:33   Canyon don't want to leave that as far [TS]

00:39:35   as you were saying about yeah you know [TS]

00:39:37   like the military outfits being [TS]

00:39:39   inconsistent I've noticed lately I've [TS]

00:39:41   been pausing movies i'm watching movies [TS]

00:39:44   at home I've been pausing them and [TS]

00:39:46   saying that's a hollow-core door whoever [TS]

00:39:51   built the set of this movie didn't get a [TS]

00:39:54   solid wood door and they didn't have [TS]

00:39:55   hollow hollow corridors that at this era [TS]

00:39:58   and then I push play again [TS]

00:40:00   watch it for a little while and then I'd [TS]

00:40:01   say party Bush pause again and say that [TS]

00:40:04   that that that type of that countertop [TS]

00:40:07   hadn't been invented when this was [TS]

00:40:09   supposedly filmed push play again and [TS]

00:40:12   i'm driving myself nuts i'm gonna come [TS]

00:40:14   I'm like am I I don't know what that is [TS]

00:40:16   I don't even know why oh gosh well [TS]

00:40:18   there's this is this is a whole season [TS]

00:40:19   to talk about this [TS]

00:40:20   well there's a whole thing with the [TS]

00:40:22   groups's you know it on the guy BB whose [TS]

00:40:25   yeah i mean like i don't know why even [TS]

00:40:28   look at that cause it always makes me [TS]

00:40:29   angry makes me angry because I hate when [TS]

00:40:30   people do that and it makes you angry [TS]

00:40:32   because I do it [TS]

00:40:33   yeah i do it without worrying and [TS]

00:40:35   there's all kinds of movies that i loved [TS]

00:40:36   as a kid that have continuity I could go [TS]

00:40:38   back and try to watch stripes again it's [TS]

00:40:40   a fun movie but the continent in the [TS]

00:40:41   community is complete bullshit [TS]

00:40:43   oh no but even like was so high when [TS]

00:40:45   they're making that move you think so [TS]

00:40:46   even harold ramis so I about pj soles [TS]

00:40:50   hi exactly deeply hi it's already nobody [TS]

00:40:54   on that movie that was super duper high [TS]

00:40:56   is that right [TS]

00:40:57   i'm pretty sure i'm going to what about [TS]

00:40:59   right shift about night shift with with [TS]

00:41:01   michael keane very high although henry [TS]

00:41:04   winkler seems like kind of a square [TS]

00:41:05   maybe he never got high [TS]

00:41:07   yeah did you ever see the razor's edge [TS]

00:41:09   with Bill Murray I didn't that's the mom [TS]

00:41:12   oh my god [TS]

00:41:13   summer said mom deal right it's somerset [TS]

00:41:15   mom and it's so bad they're so on [TS]

00:41:17   cocaine I really the person that every [TS]

00:41:20   time I see a like a shot or seen that I [TS]

00:41:22   just see him looking like Carl and [TS]

00:41:23   Caddyshack not on purpose [TS]

00:41:25   did he get permanent smirk because the [TS]

00:41:27   cocaine is is screwing with his smile [TS]

00:41:30   muscles and it's making him it's making [TS]

00:41:33   him grimace and smirk [TS]

00:41:35   he can't even help it there they try and [TS]

00:41:37   play it totally straight but it's like [TS]

00:41:39   it's like watching a cast of 200 people [TS]

00:41:42   dressed as flappers all greeting their [TS]

00:41:46   teeth OH all grinding their teeth down [TS]

00:41:49   the stubs because they're gacked out on [TS]

00:41:52   like seventies coke it's it's unbearable [TS]

00:41:57   to watch you would think this movie the [TS]

00:41:59   network of wartime wartime movie right [TS]

00:42:02   well no it's the Roaring Twenties moving [TS]

00:42:06   oh no wait no it is a wartime movie i'm [TS]

00:42:08   sorry i was thought i was about the [TS]

00:42:10   great gatsby which is another which my [TS]

00:42:11   mother lies in your mother-in-law's in [TS]

00:42:14   the great gatsby in the cell anemia just [TS]

00:42:17   two spots we can see her dancing the [TS]

00:42:18   shot in providence sorry doctors usually [TS]

00:42:21   razor's edge is mom I was one of the [TS]

00:42:23   books i claimed I've read and I haven't [TS]

00:42:25   sorry but you would we want you would [TS]

00:42:27   think that this movie was one of the if [TS]

00:42:29   if it was even remotely good it would be [TS]

00:42:32   something that somebody scene but [TS]

00:42:33   nobody's seen it it's like where the [TS]

00:42:34   buffalo roam nobody'll i love that movie [TS]

00:42:36   I did you hate it [TS]

00:42:39   well no I don't hate it but it's not our [TS]

00:42:41   man with johnny depp gentle at first [TS]

00:42:44   it's pretty great version is such a lot [TS]

00:42:46   of the soundtrack the young soundtrack [TS]

00:42:47   though it's there are a lot of things [TS]

00:42:49   about that movie i like but the johnny [TS]

00:42:51   depp one and the Johnny Depp movies so [TS]

00:42:53   well done if it actually captured for me [TS]

00:42:56   at least as a as a sober person watching [TS]

00:42:59   it it conjured up the exact feeling of [TS]

00:43:03   being on drugs [TS]

00:43:04   oh so many times and all Oh either good [TS]

00:43:07   the the well the bad and the worst but [TS]

00:43:09   some of the good but just that sense of [TS]

00:43:11   completeness like when he's in the bar [TS]

00:43:13   might even just like the hallucinating [TS]

00:43:15   monster stuff but just the fact that [TS]

00:43:16   everybody's a little bit distorted and [TS]

00:43:18   that's what matters [TS]

00:43:19   going to i said this a million different [TS]

00:43:21   places but i love i was writing is he [TS]

00:43:23   and you know it seriously fucking go [TS]

00:43:25   back and read the Kentucky Derby is [TS]

00:43:26   dedicated to pray it's still fucking [TS]

00:43:28   amazing and and he just sounds he sounds [TS]

00:43:31   like he's completely menaced and [TS]

00:43:33   everything around him as a potential [TS]

00:43:35   threat that might need to be mayst even [TS]

00:43:37   the curse of law know which is past his [TS]

00:43:39   past his prime there's a section there's [TS]

00:43:42   a there's a section where he is driving [TS]

00:43:44   i think in Hawaii he's driving a car [TS]

00:43:48   down a down a sort of a windy road and [TS]

00:43:51   it is the it it is the perfect [TS]

00:43:55   application of speeding out of control [TS]

00:43:58   on a on a dark road in a in a car that's [TS]

00:44:03   too fast for you you know right but i [TS]

00:44:06   gotta check that I've got it on my [TS]

00:44:07   account information from but i haven't [TS]

00:44:09   read it yet but watching watching that [TS]

00:44:11   movie and being transported into that [TS]

00:44:14   into that feeling of paranoia and and [TS]

00:44:18   terror of being really really really [TS]

00:44:21   high in a hotel bar [TS]

00:44:23   um without you know most of the time [TS]

00:44:26   when you see it when you see like a drug [TS]

00:44:29   sequence in the film they you know [TS]

00:44:32   oh it gets all weird it's like you it's [TS]

00:44:34   a dream sequence or no and it's sewn [TS]

00:44:38   it's so unlike was like something from [TS]

00:44:40   like we're at Sullivan would have girls [TS]

00:44:42   and go-go boots while there's both [TS]

00:44:43   bubbles or something like that kind of [TS]

00:44:45   that kind of like circa nineteen [TS]

00:44:47   sixty-seven zombies sexy you're on drugs [TS]

00:44:50   right but yeah but that that fear and [TS]

00:44:54   loathing movie I don't I i if you have [TS]

00:44:56   never done drugs [TS]

00:44:58   mhm and you want to know what it's like [TS]

00:44:59   I would watch that movie in a dark room [TS]

00:45:01   I think it's maybe take some drugs just [TS]

00:45:03   like amplify the effect [TS]

00:45:08   I'm rod this site I like a lot cause [TS]

00:45:10   it's called letters of note and I really [TS]

00:45:13   highly recommend it off put it in the [TS]

00:45:14   thing and it's everyday they they post [TS]

00:45:17   some piece of Correspondence want to see [TS]

00:45:19   ya maybe something historical [TS]

00:45:21   but just usually something interesting [TS]

00:45:23   or whatever and like there's like four [TS]

00:45:25   or five really good ones from hunter s [TS]

00:45:27   thompson I i'm trying to find this exact [TS]

00:45:30   because there's one quote where what [TS]

00:45:32   weĆ­ll just was trying to get that was [TS]

00:45:33   with johnny depp I mean I know he'd been [TS]

00:45:35   acquainted with hunter s thompson and he [TS]

00:45:37   just seemed to have seen much interviews [TS]

00:45:38   and i've got i found let's say I most [TS]

00:45:42   had bought a bunch of the old cassettes [TS]

00:45:44   because he would just talk to himself on [TS]

00:45:45   cassettes right that's what's [TS]

00:45:47   understands and you just he doesn't sell [TS]

00:45:49   them [TS]

00:45:49   well no that's like how he would think [TS]

00:45:51   out loud [TS]

00:45:53   did you get them now they're out there [TS]

00:45:55   but there and there you know it's a lot [TS]

00:45:57   to listen to but it does johnny depp [TS]

00:45:59   really captures that weird combination [TS]

00:46:02   of relaxed Swagger and complete paranoia [TS]

00:46:05   know you know and the shifting eyes and [TS]

00:46:08   everything good actor he is you know he [TS]

00:46:10   is a good actor [TS]

00:46:11   I feel like he's made some terrible [TS]

00:46:13   movies like that on the whole I have no [TS]

00:46:16   complaints [TS]

00:46:17   I want to find this one I'm certainly [TS]

00:46:19   seemed distracted by the internet I just [TS]

00:46:21   he writes he writes these these you know [TS]

00:46:24   he just fire off these faxes to people [TS]

00:46:26   this is 12 rolling stone and you write [TS]

00:46:30   the book where father Guido Sarducci [TS]

00:46:32   sends letter yes very funny [TS]

00:46:35   it's not you worthless s acid sucking [TS]

00:46:38   piece of illegitimate shit don't ever [TS]

00:46:40   send this kind of brain damage swelling [TS]

00:46:42   here again if I had the time i come out [TS]

00:46:44   there and drive a fucking wooden stake [TS]

00:46:45   in your forehead [TS]

00:46:46   actually why don't you get a job germ [TS]

00:46:48   may be delivering advertising hand out [TS]

00:46:50   door-to-door kicking tickets for a wax [TS]

00:46:52   museum you drab Southland cocksuckers [TS]

00:46:54   are all the same like those don't battle [TS]

00:46:56   dingbats at the Rolling Stone office [TS]

00:46:57   like to kill those bastards for sending [TS]

00:46:58   me your piece as soon as I kill you to [TS]

00:47:00   jam this morbid dribble up your ass with [TS]

00:47:02   your little shooter ship was a better [TS]

00:47:03   appreciated since y'all is so great at [TS]

00:47:07   that huh [TS]

00:47:08   and then you know that that's this makes [TS]

00:47:09   me think of something i was thinking i [TS]

00:47:11   was sitting in the bathtub the other day [TS]

00:47:12   and as i do and i was thinking about my [TS]

00:47:15   own career and what a what a total [TS]

00:47:19   wreckage i have made of it [TS]

00:47:21   look at it later I mean like that as of [TS]

00:47:24   today [TS]

00:47:25   yeah i'm in place of in place of like [TS]

00:47:28   the career arc that that that I but you [TS]

00:47:33   know that that would be the ideal one [TS]

00:47:35   where i built on everything that I made [TS]

00:47:38   and at the end and added a new level to [TS]

00:47:40   it and then was you know we'd driven [TS]

00:47:44   your enemies before you and heard the [TS]

00:47:45   limitations of their women yeah exact [TS]

00:47:47   that was the plan right [TS]

00:47:49   lamb and instead you know I spent so [TS]

00:47:51   much time in the garden some time [TS]

00:47:53   muttering to myself did a lot of offense [TS]

00:47:56   working last night scenery [TS]

00:47:57   you seem like you've done a lot of [TS]

00:47:58   things offenses been a lot of friends [TS]

00:48:00   work but also at a certain point I [TS]

00:48:01   rejected gore-tex and went back to wool [TS]

00:48:04   and that was a watershed moment was a [TS]

00:48:06   time-consuming wasn't getting me [TS]

00:48:08   hello is that who literally watershed [TS]

00:48:10   because it was shed water that's right [TS]

00:48:12   that's good but there are a lot of you [TS]

00:48:14   sure you're not a pederast that was [TS]

00:48:15   pretty clever [TS]

00:48:16   thank you well I said I compared their [TS]

00:48:18   I'm have 6 14 year old boy sitting [TS]

00:48:22   indian-style sir around me in a [TS]

00:48:23   semi-circle here and and they're all [TS]

00:48:26   playing playstation 2 not 1 listening to [TS]

00:48:28   me at all you bastards [TS]

00:48:30   but anyway I there are a lot of people [TS]

00:48:33   up here in the northwest who have shut [TS]

00:48:35   wool and they're in a completely [TS]

00:48:36   gore-tex universe and they think that [TS]

00:48:39   that's north western attire and i'm in [TS]

00:48:41   this i'm i'm i'm back to wall back to [TS]

00:48:44   wall back to back to analog back [TS]

00:48:46   tomorrow no checks again about gore-tex [TS]

00:48:48   shoes they don't breathe don't breathe [TS]

00:48:50   then i feel like IM me like I feel like [TS]

00:48:52   I'm you know I'm not like a really [TS]

00:48:53   stinky stinky foot person you know I [TS]

00:48:55   have a lot of problems but that's not [TS]

00:48:57   one of them and it still I mean it's [TS]

00:48:59   brutal and they end up i push ice and my [TS]

00:49:01   shoe trees i always say my shoe trees [TS]

00:49:03   that's how you rent you bring your shoot [TS]

00:49:05   back to life with sanding ice and the [TS]

00:49:06   shoe trees i put them into these shoes i [TS]

00:49:08   stick them into a sealed bag with baking [TS]

00:49:11   soda and and I still feel like I'm only [TS]

00:49:14   taking off maybe twenty percent of the [TS]

00:49:15   problem [TS]

00:49:16   it brings just throw your shoes away and [TS]

00:49:18   buy some nice old mother shoes i guess [TS]

00:49:22   but anyway I was sitting in the bathtub [TS]

00:49:24   i was thinking about what up what up yet [TS]

00:49:26   so you ruin your career [TS]

00:49:27   ok I ruined my opens not just my career [TS]

00:49:29   my whole life I've done a terrible job [TS]

00:49:30   managing it [TS]

00:49:32   and I thought you know maybe I should [TS]

00:49:34   just go in this direction that hundred [TS]

00:49:36   Thompson is doing where I just em I just [TS]

00:49:40   let it go [TS]

00:49:43   I just give everybody both barrels all [TS]

00:49:46   the time and descend into a kind of you [TS]

00:49:50   know lonely madness but really leave [TS]

00:49:54   leave a legacy of truth huh you know a [TS]

00:49:58   legacy of truth is when I think I'm late [TS]

00:50:00   for you to start having a legacy of [TS]

00:50:01   truth [TS]

00:50:02   mmm i know i listen I'm not here's the [TS]

00:50:05   thing you can always hit the reset [TS]

00:50:06   button [TS]

00:50:07   I'm i just i'm just saying that um I [TS]

00:50:11   don't know it's like it's not like one [TS]

00:50:13   day you know Picasso decided decided to [TS]

00:50:15   become a director you know he would have [TS]

00:50:18   the USA look act like I didn't do all [TS]

00:50:19   that other stuff i'm saying that you've [TS]

00:50:21   caused a lot of fuckin problems for [TS]

00:50:22   people [TS]

00:50:23   yeah and and that well and see here's [TS]

00:50:25   part of this is where it gets [TS]

00:50:26   complicated John because your version of [TS]

00:50:27   the truth is still penetrating I think [TS]

00:50:30   for a lot of people and I'm saying [TS]

00:50:32   there's all these 14 year old boys just [TS]

00:50:34   set up straight and look at me right in [TS]

00:50:35   the eyes when you said penetrating right [TS]

00:50:37   well you know you can threaten unplug [TS]

00:50:39   that game anytime you know I don't know [TS]

00:50:42   what your game and i'm going to plug [TS]

00:50:43   something else so i usually just lost [TS]

00:50:46   some point they lost a couple points i [TS]

00:50:48   was always going to put you talked about [TS]

00:50:49   wild and bend you know and Posey the the [TS]

00:50:52   Marquis of Queensberry son that he was a [TS]

00:50:54   nice thought he was fucking I i think [TS]

00:50:57   that now for him that was real but he [TS]

00:50:58   wanted that Phi you know and I still say [TS]

00:51:01   to this day the whole reason that he [TS]

00:51:03   started that trouble with the Marquis of [TS]

00:51:04   Queensbury is because he misspelled [TS]

00:51:06   sodomite and I just ice the Dean of the [TS]

00:51:08   story right yeah yeah sure [TS]

00:51:10   ok so a cryptography the Richard [TS]

00:51:11   mammography great biography and and I [TS]

00:51:14   think it all started because the [TS]

00:51:15   spelling error [TS]

00:51:16   yes he wanted to fuck the guy's son in [TS]

00:51:18   his life like maybe in his knee think [TS]

00:51:20   you had like a leg fucking thing [TS]

00:51:21   yeah I I don't understand all the [TS]

00:51:23   different angles on on on the different [TS]

00:51:26   kinds of the gay but like I think he was [TS]

00:51:27   leg [TS]

00:51:28   here's the leg and leverage man [TS]

00:51:30   and the Marquis of Queensberry college [TS]

00:51:32   yeah it gets kind of is if rataj well it [TS]

00:51:36   depends like fried cheese frontage Jews [TS]

00:51:40   that for like wait I have a low-fat diet [TS]

00:51:42   i'm just i'm saying that I'm telling you [TS]

00:51:45   John rockers like this fucking [TS]

00:51:46   complicated Oscar Wilde like he was an [TS]

00:51:48   SAS he was a playwright he was Annie [TS]

00:51:51   fucker and he didn't like spelling [TS]

00:51:53   errors [TS]

00:51:53   ok and this is the eighteen hundreds [TS]

00:51:55   literally 28 he was certainly he [TS]

00:51:57   sniffled with right boys they call it [TS]

00:51:59   that was by the way one of my favorite [TS]

00:52:01   decima CPC sticking the Rent Boys yeah [TS]

00:52:03   anyway I'm just saying like you you for [TS]

00:52:06   the first time I admire the fact that [TS]

00:52:08   you're owning your mismanagement [TS]

00:52:10   I mean I think the first thing that [TS]

00:52:11   manager does is only the things they [TS]

00:52:13   mismanaged and you're owning it so much [TS]

00:52:15   it's just rehashing it not my life just [TS]

00:52:17   like you take a direction night [TS]

00:52:19   now if I could ask i have to have not [TS]

00:52:23   had the pleasure of visiting your your [TS]

00:52:25   home but it strikes me that somebody [TS]

00:52:28   like like a hunter s thompson like you [TS]

00:52:30   need a compound does the place where you [TS]

00:52:33   live have any potential to become a [TS]

00:52:36   compound there is already a compound you [TS]

00:52:39   have multiple buildings right are [TS]

00:52:40   multiple buildings here it is it is a [TS]

00:52:42   there's a there's an empty swimming pool [TS]

00:52:44   okay good there's an untended orchard [TS]

00:52:48   but it's within the city limits my [TS]

00:52:51   neighbors are all like of the whatever [TS]

00:52:57   you're doing over there we don't want to [TS]

00:52:58   know [TS]

00:52:59   quality sound like working working class [TS]

00:53:01   african-american people [TS]

00:53:02   yeah that's right but that you know that [TS]

00:53:04   they when I first moved in here I had [TS]

00:53:06   had hair down to the middle of my back [TS]

00:53:09   and I was missing one of my front teeth [TS]

00:53:11   and that established a certain tone with [TS]

00:53:14   my neighbors where they were like he's [TS]

00:53:17   friendly and that's fine so let's just [TS]

00:53:20   wave to him and don't go on his property [TS]

00:53:25   and hopefully he'll stay off of our [TS]

00:53:28   property and it's established a great we [TS]

00:53:30   have a great dynamic care who they say [TS]

00:53:32   hi to each other at the mailbox we we [TS]

00:53:35   actually talked over the fence but but [TS]

00:53:38   there is like all the all the teenage [TS]

00:53:40   kids running around this neighborhood [TS]

00:53:41   causing trouble they will go to the [TS]

00:53:43   other side of the street when they walk [TS]

00:53:44   past my house you keep the ball haha I i [TS]

00:53:48   know i always throw the ball back to [TS]

00:53:49   them but i do walk around 33 liquid I [TS]

00:53:52   bet [TS]

00:53:53   ok I i do walk around the yard with a [TS]

00:53:56   sword in a bathroom and and I don't [TS]

00:54:01   think you're in the bathroom but the [TS]

00:54:03   sword in your hand right I'm in the [TS]

00:54:04   bathroom and assorted sort doesn't have [TS]

00:54:06   its own bathroom [TS]

00:54:07   I'm just absent mindedly going sorties [TS]

00:54:10   let's take a lot it's just swinging the [TS]

00:54:13   sword as I walk around thinking about [TS]

00:54:15   thinking big thoughts and I think the [TS]

00:54:17   kids in my neighborhood see that and say [TS]

00:54:19   there are other better places to go play [TS]

00:54:23   then around this guys house you have to [TS]

00:54:26   be careful though because you're like [TS]

00:54:27   you're a big guy like a tall guy and [TS]

00:54:29   like the probably got the tall guy [TS]

00:54:30   problem now of like just like I've got [TS]

00:54:32   the smartass guy problem right which [TS]

00:54:34   everybody wants to take on everybody [TS]

00:54:36   wants to take on the tall guy right and [TS]

00:54:38   so I'm wonder on some level of carrying [TS]

00:54:40   a sword is also an invitation to to [TS]

00:54:43   bring that on to cross the fence if you [TS]

00:54:44   like [TS]

00:54:45   well here's the thing that I learned [TS]

00:54:46   many many years ago and that is that all [TS]

00:54:49   kinds of people want to all kinds of men [TS]

00:54:52   try and put on the loco eyes mmm to get [TS]

00:54:57   out of get out of fights or get out of [TS]

00:54:59   trouble like they'll forgive somebody to [TS]

00:55:01   localize yeah and that is supposed to [TS]

00:55:03   communicate like don't mess with me I'm [TS]

00:55:05   logo but the problem with loco eyes is [TS]

00:55:10   that all it takes is to have your bluff [TS]

00:55:13   called one time and localize turned to [TS]

00:55:17   fear eyes very fast if you're not if the [TS]

00:55:21   if the localized don't have anything [TS]

00:55:22   behind them you know oh oh yeah that guy [TS]

00:55:25   was really tough you when you localize [TS]

00:55:26   well there are actual localize and I'm [TS]

00:55:30   sure you've seen them where it isn't [TS]

00:55:31   where nobody's putting a bond where the [TS]

00:55:33   person genuinely like to check off thing [TS]

00:55:36   like person you would not put don't put [TS]

00:55:38   localize in the first talk to somebody [TS]

00:55:39   not gonna get shot by the end right if [TS]

00:55:41   you got localize you just gonna see them [TS]

00:55:43   long enough [TS]

00:55:44   like right before somebody gets you you [TS]

00:55:46   know it's not something everyone is like [TS]

00:55:47   Appalachian characters just walking [TS]

00:55:49   around with some correct fucking crazy [TS]

00:55:50   Snuffy Smith mode like oh I'm gonna get [TS]

00:55:52   you like I don't think that's compelling [TS]

00:55:53   and people wonder why i think people [TS]

00:55:56   people [TS]

00:55:56   really want to hit you if you do that I [TS]

00:55:57   don't get a sort of a robber or anything [TS]

00:55:59   like that thing about a person with with [TS]

00:56:01   truly localizes that they don't care if [TS]

00:56:03   you if you stick a pin in there I you [TS]

00:56:05   know they're nuts and so about ball by [TS]

00:56:07   way of saying I stopped a long time ago [TS]

00:56:09   putting any kind of local eyes on my [TS]

00:56:11   face and my face when I look at somebody [TS]

00:56:14   on the street in and they are giving me [TS]

00:56:16   some kind of confrontational energy my [TS]

00:56:18   face communicates exactly what I am [TS]

00:56:20   capable of doing and I find that that [TS]

00:56:23   which is writing about it later [TS]

00:56:25   she's that genuinely is enough writing [TS]

00:56:27   about writing an angry tweet about it [TS]

00:56:29   later [TS]

00:56:30   no I mean I don't misrepresent the the [TS]

00:56:33   distance in a fight i'm willing to go [TS]

00:56:35   with someone on the street and that [TS]

00:56:37   distance is not know distance if you get [TS]

00:56:41   what I'm saying that sounds really [TS]

00:56:44   menacing after you play it that way I [TS]

00:56:45   have I have I have a lot to lose my [TS]

00:56:49   dedicate my dedication to fisticuffs [TS]

00:56:51   with you has a nonzero value in the [TS]

00:56:56   sense of not being defined do you even [TS]

00:56:59   know the difference between 0 and no [TS]

00:57:01   because I will explain it to you that's [TS]

00:57:03   all the difference in the world [TS]

00:57:04   you understand so at this point the [TS]

00:57:06   person probably confused they're feeling [TS]

00:57:08   bad that they hadn't taken more math or [TS]

00:57:10   like learn perl right i think at that [TS]

00:57:11   point you use the equivalent of like one [TS]

00:57:13   of those wrestlers throwing sand in your [TS]

00:57:14   eyes because now he's on the wrong foot [TS]

00:57:17   he's wondering does this guy have a robe [TS]

00:57:19   and a sword and we're what is it all [TS]

00:57:21   it's like the it's like that scene in [TS]

00:57:22   Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is [TS]

00:57:24   great sir where Paul Newman says let's [TS]

00:57:27   get the rules and the other guy says [TS]

00:57:29   little knife I kicked him in the balls [TS]

00:57:33   somebody so 123 123 [TS]

00:57:36   oh man shit is a it's getting I am [TS]

00:57:42   let's see okay fuck you want to circle [TS]

00:57:45   back on i'm never gonna get better than [TS]

00:57:47   magical thinking I had a thing on [TS]

00:57:48   plasticity i'm engaged in the compound [TS]

00:57:52   thing though because it seems to me that [TS]

00:57:54   i want to tell you why I i think what [TS]

00:57:56   you're describing here is is really [TS]

00:57:58   disturbing and extremely diluted and I [TS]

00:58:00   think that's a good direction for you I [TS]

00:58:01   see you committing what's the word you [TS]

00:58:03   use your inhabiting the the voice as I [TS]

00:58:06   did em right I like that [TS]

00:58:08   oh yeah right why me also i think you [TS]

00:58:10   also need to lead with your strength [TS]

00:58:12   right and it went to number i'm [TS]

00:58:14   wondering whether I whether i went down [TS]

00:58:15   the wrong road and what I should be [TS]

00:58:17   doing like the guy in shazam actually [TS]

00:58:21   driving across America in a Winnebago [TS]

00:58:22   but instead of using the power of Isis [TS]

00:58:27   to solve crimes [TS]

00:58:29   hmm i should be robbing diamond couriers [TS]

00:58:34   you know all across America there I'll [TS]

00:58:37   anti-semitic John the guys get no but [TS]

00:58:39   that's a here's the brilliant thing only [TS]

00:58:41   Jewish diamonds couriers right it's just [TS]

00:58:45   it's a market you leave the Jews alone [TS]

00:58:49   uh-huh and then and then and by doing so [TS]

00:58:51   you earn their you earn their respect [TS]

00:58:54   and he's only knocked over the German [TS]

00:58:58   diamond couriers of which i'm sure it's [TS]

00:59:01   a small group but i'm sure there are [TS]

00:59:03   some if I were going to be a german sex [TS]

00:59:05   tourist I would want to have [TS]

00:59:08   what like Liberia right i would have a [TS]

00:59:11   flag of convenience is that what it's [TS]

00:59:12   called [TS]

00:59:13   yeah right okay okay that's what no [TS]

00:59:15   that's not that you have extra phobic to [TS]

00:59:17   say that right like convenient ok [TS]

00:59:19   alright get that's what happens if you [TS]

00:59:21   put a like a red handkerchief in your [TS]

00:59:22   back left pocket okay I convenience I [TS]

00:59:26   who but you know they're so South [TS]

00:59:28   Africans and german sex tourists think [TS]

00:59:31   they're walking around with Diamonds [TS]

00:59:32   especially south african they gotta shit [TS]

00:59:34   time is down there John and I'm the guy [TS]

00:59:36   in the Winnebago i'm super unassuming [TS]

00:59:38   I'm parking every night in a Walmart [TS]

00:59:39   parking lot i'm part of that community [TS]

00:59:41   right by day but the community of [TS]

00:59:45   superheroes in Winnebagos who [TS]

00:59:48   occasionally go into a cave to turn into [TS]

00:59:49   a cartoon and get wisdom right [TS]

00:59:52   whoo-hoo everything happens in a cartoon [TS]

00:59:55   is a cartoon sometimes when he talks in [TS]

00:59:57   Neptune devices wasn't [TS]

00:59:57   Neptune devices wasn't [TS]

01:00:00   Morgan no mark was never a cartoon for [TS]

01:00:03   that would have made more from work even [TS]

01:00:04   cooler if when he went in to talk to or [TS]

01:00:06   city was a cartoon [TS]

01:00:07   yeah I don't think they put a lot of [TS]

01:00:09   budget in that you think mostly stands [TS]

01:00:10   there [TS]

01:00:11   yeah did Billy Billy Billy badi Billy [TS]

01:00:13   party building Madison Billy Batson [TS]

01:00:15   what's-his-name Billy Billy party [TS]

01:00:18   ok Billy around Billy Batson mobility [TS]

01:00:20   parts and when the snows land when he [TS]

01:00:28   goes into the cave doesn't turn into a [TS]

01:00:30   cartoon any talks to Neptune I that's [TS]

01:00:32   that sounds familiar you know the last [TS]

01:00:33   time I saw and you remember the [TS]

01:00:35   Winnebago so clearly this is something [TS]

01:00:37   that is I think I just say that I think [TS]

01:00:39   the Winnebago there's room for the [TS]

01:00:40   Winnebago in this whole thing I've got a [TS]

01:00:42   list here of things that I think you [TS]

01:00:44   should consider you do not have to agree [TS]

01:00:46   to any of these but maybe just go [TS]

01:00:48   through a couple things yeah yeah please [TS]

01:00:49   do we should first we should clarify the [TS]

01:00:50   cartoon thing we'll come back to that I [TS]

01:00:52   turn into a cartoon for like 15 minutes [TS]

01:00:55   everyday told you talk to like would you [TS]

01:00:58   seek wisdom from otto von bismarck shame [TS]

01:01:03   people don't remember him [TS]

01:01:04   wouldn't that be great if you turn into [TS]

01:01:06   a cartoon every day for 15 minutes and [TS]

01:01:08   could ask otto von bismarck anything [TS]

01:01:10   what if what if you went into a cave you [TS]

01:01:13   turn into a cartoon and a cartoon [TS]

01:01:15   version of hunter s thompson was in [TS]

01:01:16   there right [TS]

01:01:17   that's not scary well he said here's the [TS]

01:01:19   thing is he's not going to fucking talk [TS]

01:01:21   to you because you're a cocksucking [TS]

01:01:22   piece of shit like you right but you're [TS]

01:01:24   learning when he says that he says get [TS]

01:01:26   the fuck out any literally throws a [TS]

01:01:27   piece of dynamite out you may be like I [TS]

01:01:29   don't know like a bmat he has a crossbow [TS]

01:01:31   that shoots down my like the Duke has [TS]

01:01:33   funny you should say that because this [TS]

01:01:35   is on my list i was going to recommend [TS]

01:01:36   if I may I'm not against source i think [TS]

01:01:38   having a sword is good i think an [TS]

01:01:40   Arsenal maybe a hidden arsenal is not a [TS]

01:01:43   bad idea i'm just saying that when you [TS]

01:01:44   walk around the perimeter of your [TS]

01:01:45   property in a bathrobe [TS]

01:01:46   I would think about the crossbow and a [TS]

01:01:48   small cross but not like one of those [TS]

01:01:49   jokey was not one of those you know [TS]

01:01:51   thieves guild kind of things like [TS]

01:01:53   scrabble a fucking big ass maybe like [TS]

01:01:56   giant novelty-sized kraspo haha but now [TS]

01:02:00   that i have a childlike at ravished like [TS]

01:02:02   a trebuchet labouchere yeah now that I [TS]

01:02:04   you know that was my punk rock name Trey [TS]

01:02:06   boucher but nobody ever got it [TS]

01:02:08   it's not funny on so many levels it's so [TS]

01:02:11   great i was like [TS]

01:02:12   people like my name is fucking peter out [TS]

01:02:14   and I was like I'm trebuchet and that [TS]

01:02:17   and then they would go to the other side [TS]

01:02:19   of the chronic a misbehavin see if these [TS]

01:02:23   aren't good punk rock names these are [TS]

01:02:25   like the I don't know but it's still a [TS]

01:02:27   ticket sense because it is a pic answer [TS]

01:02:30   is always a white tickets my second [TS]

01:02:32   fence it's a it's a kind of it's like a [TS]

01:02:34   kind of it's like a forcefield the white [TS]

01:02:37   picket fence makes your house look like [TS]

01:02:40   it's like yeah it isn't actually there [TS]

01:02:43   right it sits right there's not gonna be [TS]

01:02:45   a lot of Ray Charles records inside [TS]

01:02:46   becomes a diorama it becomes it becomes [TS]

01:02:49   a good it's it's a shoebox simulator [TS]

01:02:52   yeah exactly it just fades into this [TS]

01:02:54   sort of norman rockwell but to [TS]

01:02:56   dimensionality and nobody thinks oh [TS]

01:02:58   right there's actually a weird guy [TS]

01:03:00   living in there with the Arsenal how [TS]

01:03:02   tall your picket because you're [TS]

01:03:03   describing me talking over the fence to [TS]

01:03:04   these poor bastards you live next to you [TS]

01:03:06   i thought i saw in one of your videos [TS]

01:03:07   that guy made of you [TS]

01:03:08   I thought you have fairly small pickets [TS]

01:03:10   and if you've got a two-foot picket [TS]

01:03:11   fence that's weird to talk over that now [TS]

01:03:13   you pick us 44-foot ticket the pickets [TS]

01:03:16   are are about four feet tall you okay i [TS]

01:03:18   mean they reinforce the chicken wire or [TS]

01:03:20   anything like that or they literally [TS]

01:03:21   just wouldn't tickets are there wouldnt [TS]

01:03:23   pickets but I but they are made out of [TS]

01:03:25   I made them out of pallets like hola [TS]

01:03:28   balance right Leonard splitter real bad [TS]

01:03:31   out of the yeah they're not like little [TS]

01:03:33   pickets that you buy from some picket [TS]

01:03:36   store [TS]

01:03:36   ok they're they're reinforced pickets [TS]

01:03:38   they would stop a car [TS]

01:03:40   alright there's nothing tricky about it [TS]

01:03:41   right isn't low here's the trick dipped [TS]

01:03:43   in poison are reinforced with rebar [TS]

01:03:44   nothing about it [TS]

01:03:46   offenses like the fences just offense [TS]

01:03:48   but on either side of the fence front [TS]

01:03:50   and back i have print planted ornamental [TS]

01:03:53   bushes which are also a prickly like [TS]

01:03:59   vines of death like if you get if you [TS]

01:04:01   try and get if you could try to get [TS]

01:04:04   through this edge you're going to get [TS]

01:04:05   shredded I mean if you're if you're on [TS]

01:04:07   foot and don't mind being a little [TS]

01:04:08   inconvenience [TS]

01:04:10   next I don't think for somebody who's [TS]

01:04:12   building a fucking compound I just how [TS]

01:04:14   about you could go through the gate [TS]

01:04:16   ok and you know what I'm asking you is [TS]

01:04:17   like it is a large isn't a large bin [TS]

01:04:20   Laden style wall is that gonna be a [TS]

01:04:22   problem for zoning for ventilation like [TS]

01:04:24   is there a reason that you don't have a [TS]

01:04:25   big [TS]

01:04:25   fucking as The Godfather style compound [TS]

01:04:29   as the hedges grow it will become an [TS]

01:04:31   impenetrable wall of hedge that you [TS]

01:04:33   won't be able to see Chinese like the [TS]

01:04:35   scariest organic gardener in the world [TS]

01:04:37   and laying I'm just saying website like [TS]

01:04:39   that's what I'd like my business card to [TS]

01:04:40   say there's not a place yet that [TS]

01:04:42   convention you like your ways are you [TS]

01:04:45   kidding me there's so much for a show [TS]

01:04:46   it's scary had a gardening conference [TS]

01:04:48   very scary organic gardening conferences [TS]

01:04:51   yeah problem is that all those people [TS]

01:04:52   have so much body here and I don't know [TS]

01:04:55   there's always that the permaculture [TS]

01:04:56   that's why [TS]

01:04:57   yeah yeah they don't think they're not [TS]

01:04:58   grooming themselves they'll consider [TS]

01:05:00   grooming an act of colonialism [TS]

01:05:02   absolutely then what's more [TS]

01:05:04   phallocentric than holding your own hair [TS]

01:05:05   that's that's you know i mean that's [TS]

01:05:08   that's a form of self-abuse the guy [TS]

01:05:09   looks down upon right or whoever [TS]

01:05:12   alright so I'm just saying the Kennedys [TS]

01:05:13   you got the Godfather you do need so if [TS]

01:05:15   you're going to go and i'm not saying [TS]

01:05:16   going full-on fucking John Wayne Gacy [TS]

01:05:18   I'm saying but I am saying that like you [TS]

01:05:20   should dig out the basement and 29 [TS]

01:05:23   children it sprinkle lie down there too [TS]

01:05:25   just like a clown [TS]

01:05:27   yeah into slowly turn a wire that was a [TS]

01:05:29   really interesting you read the verses [TS]

01:05:32   from the Bible but here's the problem i [TS]

01:05:35   do have an arsenal of of weaponry [TS]

01:05:37   throughout the ages and that does [TS]

01:05:39   include your as push in my house which [TS]

01:05:42   includes my rose bush and my untrimmed [TS]

01:05:44   garden if you will and and and now i [TS]

01:05:48   have a child and she's more reason to [TS]

01:05:51   have walls [TS]

01:05:52   she's too young to to have found you [TS]

01:05:55   know my various caches of weapons but [TS]

01:05:58   there will come a time when she'll say [TS]

01:06:00   you know daddy what's behind that steel [TS]

01:06:03   reinforced door and I'm going to have to [TS]

01:06:05   say all your friends from school [TS]

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