Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Merlin how's it going pretty good [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► earlier man you know what spend just [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► going along time you're ready to come [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► and give it a good ready [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► sure John yeah I had to do that little [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► bit they call it off my oh no that's [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► good that's exactly right your learning [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► your learning good Mike technique was [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► gonna ask you about that do you consider [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► yourself some was good mic skills [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► absolutely food [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► I mean you can't sing into microphones [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► for 20 years without learning something [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► you bring about you bring some different [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► different 57 smells like a butt that's [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► gonna be different than sure I'll sure [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► sec I'll 5418 or whatever [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► oh yeah sure see Kyle 4418 is a that's a [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► terrible Mike at least Hitler made the [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► microphones right on time he really did [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► those are the Germans migrate microphone [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► not then they put them up there but but [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► as you know as you know oh my god all my [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► things are sleeping at once here I said [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► she sent you three different kinds of [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► messages i apologize it's okay that's [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► typical of you I have 700 skype [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► invitations 10 ical invitations to [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► skyping no see that's that's meet you [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► yeah I know it yes it has your name [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► right at the top of it just start over [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► it should not just a little if you want [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► to delete on this we can start over [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► I don't want I don't want them I'm [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► trying to keep my inbox at zero and you [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► are adding things to my in so the [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Germans make a good Mike [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► yeah via the thing about sure [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► microphones that smell like the bottom [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► of the ocean is that you know if that's [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► how you know that you're in [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► that's how you know you're in a hell of [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► a club who have a real rock club when [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► when you know they have never sanitize [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► their microphones you can't do that i [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► mean it's like flow type it seems to me [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► a man a man of your status with the kind [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► of money you got if you were going to [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► start a club on not they would serve [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► alcohol or you just gonna stare [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► yea high status absolutely that's gonna [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► take a big cloud which you would use [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► sanitizer Mike's i personally would [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► there's a club in denver called the [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► lion's lair which the first time I [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► right there it was promoted to me by [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► everyone has like a legendary place you [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► have to play the lions lair it's a [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► legendary place and we arrived at the [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► lion's lair and it was legendarily [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► abysmal it was it was a club is a club [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► that kind of like the one that you took [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► us to recently in san francisco where [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► the smell it like the smell of fresh [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► paint mixed with bleach mixes with like [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► hepatitis mr. hepatitis C hepatitis c 70 [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► general kind of the window Jack kind [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► really bad ooh yuck smell like Judd so [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► you walk in there and you're like oh [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► right i wouldn't come into this place to [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► get change for a dollar but i'm playing [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► here tonight drinking after the class [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► its and the microphone so the guy that [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► setting up a PA is like yeah we got [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► three mics you decide where you want [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► them you know like by way of saying [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► we're not making any of your instruments [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► we have three microphones be talking [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► about the place he played that lions are [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► we played there multiple times [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► oh I'm sorry I'm sorry but that wasn't [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► that was not your experience in san [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► francisco that's good i don't know the [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► great american music hall is one of the [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► finest clubs in the world is one clarify [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► ok that's the line the lion's lair in [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► denver [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► however is not on the list of the finest [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► clubs in the world and in fact the [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► microphone that they gave me this is the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► best night they had because i'm the lead [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► vocalist and of course you are going to [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► give the best Mike you have to the lead [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► vocalist the microphone was a covered [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► with rust and be actually had been [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► thrown to the floor in a in a punk-rock [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► rage so many times that it way it had [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► sharp cutting blades on it where the [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► where the mic had broken and somebody [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► put it back together with a hammer or [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► something this screen the screen had [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► shards yeah the first time I touched it [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► with my lips I was like oh that just cut [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► me and I'm just I'm just doing a [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► soundcheck like I need to go get a [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► tetanus shot now what exactly is not [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► like the Vietcong we put we put poop on [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► the stick and when that when this when [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► they learn that when they tracked it [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► their own g sticking in the poop on the [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► stick is an infection right now this is [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► how the lion's lair is spreading their [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► brand of punk rock around America so I [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► wish I ended up playing there for five [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► times over the years because [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► every time someone says the lion's lair [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► I go oh yeah I've had such a good time [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► they're legendary club and then I would [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► you consider living in your own would [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► you consider bringing your own something [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► some guys bring the fancy ribbon mic or [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► whatever in a special box would you do [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► here's what happens here is what happens [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► when you bring it on Mike you leave it [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► at that up because it's the last thing [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► you're thinking of when you leave unless [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► you have your own sound man if you're [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► gonna sound man he's got Mike's but if [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► it like I carried around a mic like in [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► the past pocket of my jacket for a tour [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► like here's my mic and I left it behind [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► like three different times and finally [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► frankly quite frankly this is gonna [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► sound terrible but I left it at the [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► bowery ballroom another of the greatest [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► clubs in the world and it had my name [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► written on earth but when i called them [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► they were like no yeah we don't know [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► where it went and that was like oh come [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► on really [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► yeah they're not hiring out the Ivy [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► League's for that kind of thing are they [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► have the kind of the kind of lists [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► you're not gonna get me you're not going [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► to coax me on on this podcast to say one [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► bad word about the glorious and honorary [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► our honorable guild of sound engineers [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► roadies and technicians who make the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► club's of america resonate like giant [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► cellos they are there are glorious cast [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► its kind of talking your proctologist [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► exactly i'm never going to say a [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► terrible thing about the about that army [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► of men and women dressed all in black [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► it's super super high with leatherman uh [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► multi-tools on their belts and a beeper [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► and enlarged flashlights or small [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► flashlights and the tiny want you to get [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► the tiny little on whether the black [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► ones you get one of those giant those [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► does the Maglites you get a little [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► maglite and you get that holster right [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► well the real pros have have tiny [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► Maglites with red lenses on them so that [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► they can be on stage with their maglite [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and not disrupt the the show uh-huh [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► without without with a distracting white [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► light that has a red light so that their [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► it's like it's basically Special Forces [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► stuff those guys use I you know I [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► military grade III you not only to [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► direct the show but I [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► I have a even you've played a thousand [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► times more rock shows that i have in a [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► million years but even with my very [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► modest amount of experience i must tell [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► you playing with exactly the same setup [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► at exactly the same Club god bless it it [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► sounded completely different every night [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► with the same sound man you know if the [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► guy is the guy who ran the club guy play [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► I played the two guys that I played in [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► bands with on this overtime finally four [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► guys but if they round the board you're [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► in good shape because they kind of cared [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► but then how it was real goofy would do [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► it and I was always struck and we play a [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► couple times out of town I was always [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► blown away that it could sound so so [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► very very different i understand a room [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► being different [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► yeah but but it seems like you know it's [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► like if you ran a restaurant and your [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► kind of confused about where the stove [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► was yeah well here's the here's pro tip [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► okay don't don't let the goofy guide to [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► the sound [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► what about the coldest taciturn guy [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► because he just hauling gear and doing [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► merger or you know Jon Coulton sound man [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► John Carter is a here's the consummate [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► the rock-and-roll professional here yet [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► the young women period within the inn [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► hotel lobby that's that's that's [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► different fella [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► no no he's he's John Jonathan Colton's [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► Yale educated merch Lackey know there's [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► no patent old-world correct craft by the [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► way Jonathan Coulton is a sound man is a [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► hero has work he he would he was a [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► handsome guy with the dark hair [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► well i'm not here to judge a man's I'm [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► sorry little attractiveness to I'm sorry [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► uh but but he is he was on you know he [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► would sound for the opener on the [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► michael jackson bad tour like he's keep [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► this guy's been around when Carter is a [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► is a is a sword wielder who say actually [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► that's not anything anybody still still [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► grey eyes [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► Tom that the here is another thing about [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► microphones and you know I I don't like [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► to literally sickened our listeners but [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► we're talking both talking two [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► microphones right now so you have this [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► microphone is disgusting any offices [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► this this is a single-use microphone [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► that has never seen anything worse than [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► Mount I'll get user you buy single use [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► microphone me and you do one podcast and [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► throw it away [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► absolutely [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► thank you get another mind that Spencer [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► they say officers like you don't write [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► it's okay it's okay that I the toilet [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► paper fast lady he just move on right [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► now I mean no offense I don't work ping [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► pong but the you know the the sm57 that [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► it's a workhorse right the NAIA you know [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► things sm57 it seems to me are [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► everywhere because they're inexpensive [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► wood used well you can use them for most [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► like all kinds of different things if [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► you lost every other mic in the world [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► you can still build a house with with an [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► sm57 all day and you can make a kick [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► drum and you can get by with it as a [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► vocal mic right you can you get eaten [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► right i mean you've done good show [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► singing into an sm57 right [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► I don't want to do a show that we're [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► where we are we are advertising for [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► shure sm57 because well but I'm gonna [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► I'm angling for a sponsorship I want [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► that company to pony up we are singing [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the praises of the sm57 what a punk rock [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► Mike it is i'm gonna take another [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► direction if you don't mind [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► alright please do because here's the [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► thing you walk on the stage most places [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► and there's this this rats this recall a [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► rat king of of with XLR you see like a [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► bunch of XL ours is the prowl again for [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► the snake you got a bunch at long x el [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► arse in coils and everybody's got a [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► special way they like the coil the thing [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► don't touch don't touch the coils and [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► then you see this pile of sm57 on the [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► floor in front of where the kick drum [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► would because that's you know they want [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► to get home and get back to more [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► marijuana you are describing the [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► experience of a of a young up-and-coming [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► band in Florida we were never we never [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► got up or cane we found we were down and [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► not coming [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► it has been a long time since I played [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► in a club where I walked on the stage [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► there's just a pile up like a pile of [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► cigar butts a pile of sm57 stacked in [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► front of the kick drum [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► uh-huh it's been a long time because [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► they keeping a plastic box or however [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► i'm gonna perform a professional rock [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► musician and when I show up to clatters [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► like there's a selection of nice [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► microphones that are being that are [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► being mastered by the commander the [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► master and commander on the stage who is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► directing his sailors and Midshipmen up [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► the Riggin he's pointing the same in all [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► the right direction to repair the [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► prepare the stage for my show my [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► registered mr. Roderick who has I'm [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► going on with you however i'd like to [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► talk about writers at some point you [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► have a kidney writer or is that [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► something that's understood i have a [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► writer but here's the thing about [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► writers is a lot of young bands make the [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► mistake of thinking that our shit but [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► anything you want on a writer put three [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► thousand dollars worth of sushi on the [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► writer and then I what you don't realize [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► is that they're taking that money out of [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► the money they would otherwise pay you [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► it's reproducible well right yeah [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► immediately recoupable so so I don't my [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► writers fairly simple because I would [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► rather have the money then have somebody [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► charge me seven dollars for a great so [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► when you when you rose and came just a [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► little bit you probably now see I'm [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► guessing you did I could see the putting [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► clawfoot bathtub on there and then one [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► time you know fool me once close some of [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► that stuff right like if you're if you [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► say for instance if you say we need a [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► shower [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► they're not going to charge you for that [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► unless they're playin scrupulous well um [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► ok but the other part of this and again [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► you have to tell me if this is a real [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► world experience but bringing your own [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► Mike not having a sound guy could see [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► that being you know whatever they might [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► be not that cool with that but we bring [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► on my core you have a big rider this [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► does that also pick you as as trouble [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► no no bring your own sound guy in your [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► own gear everybody loves that except one [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► time in minneapolis we played a club [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► where the sound guy we had our own sound [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► guy and the sound guy did the sound and [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► at the end of the night the house sound [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► guy came out and pitched a fit like a [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► screaming fit that the that our some guy [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► had not zero doubt the board which is to [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► say he had not pushed all the faders [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► back down to zero this is a thing that [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► you can do yourself [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► here's the thing that you could hire you [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► can have a cat do you know if you tear [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► up the masking tape everything down [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► reset all the little things 20 you start [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► over yun gonna hit all the buttons [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► started 20 restart from 00 out read a [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► lot of work and so we're standing around [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► it's really not a lot of work ok act is [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► it is a minuscule amount of work and if [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► you are obsessive compulsive like me [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► there's nothing you like better [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► this is around okay just sit there like [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► 000 do you actually know if it's working [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► just assume it's not work well I mean [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► everything is everything that isn't [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► sleeping his work but it's good point [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► but this is a thing like we're standing [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► around after the show at the audience is [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► gone where [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► like loading up our final guitars into [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► the man and the house sound guy comes [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► over looks at his board which is not [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► zero doubt and he really he started [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► screaming oh not zeroing out when you're [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► done answering out when you're done how [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► I see start screaming screaming things [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► that it's like I'm a professional sound [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► man i played i have done sound at [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► sold-out shows sold out shows and no one [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► has ever not zero doubt the board so [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► that shows and you're like yeah this in [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► fact tonight show was sold out and what [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► are you talking about why are you [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► screaming and he's like that stomping [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► around like hey man so it's that it's [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► fine [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► 0out you're bored or what was that like [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► not cleaning off his dead rubber girl [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► it's like would be like returning your [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► sticky well in fact it is not like [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► nothing there's nothing equivalent to [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► how small of a deal this is it's like [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► it's like somebody saying it's like [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► somebody coming out of the bathroom and [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► saying i told you to turn the light off [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► when you left the bathroom and I went in [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► there the light was on [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► like I'm sorry the light was on sorry [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► now I told you too late and effective I [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► didn't tell you should have just known [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► alright sorry [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► well we'll never do it again because we [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► won't come back here well yeah my [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► experience was extremely different [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► because let's say we were there are no [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► small potatoes were fingerling potatoes [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► in Iraqi consistent but the weird thing [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► about living where we lived is we did [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► get the entirely inappropriate [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► opportunity to open for a lot of amazing [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► bands because we you play for cheap and [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► really as far as a friend alex wyse the [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► promoters to save it so it's good [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► exposure and you know whatever which [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► basically means he didn't want to pay [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► you because he had to be a big fish in a [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► small pond or even [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► officials multiple nice to be a fish no [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► question i talked to a a woman who was i [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► I was on a panel one time at the [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► experience music project here in Seattle [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► who the EMP and it was panel on groupies [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► in in rock and roll and I was the only [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► man on the bill are on the on the panel [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► and also the only musician build another [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► way bill is a fellow centric name right [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► i'm sorry i was the only man on the bill [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► or Janet dias ya on the days on the yeah [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► at the table at the head table boy had [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► yeah nice terrible i'm sorry that you're [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► so deep inside the bell essentially [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► right big direction your way out i was i [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► was the only man on the vagina okay [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► thank you spelled my and that the the [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► woman who was the chair of the event was [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► a feminist writer from olympia from that [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► from the hippie college there [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► evergreen college and she had a shed [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► that she kind of stacked the panel with [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► with women who were rock writers who all [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► kind of shared her view that being a [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► groupie was a was like a the almost the [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► worst thing a woman can do and not only [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► terrible for her but it also degraded [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► women all across the world like 22 love [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► abandoned follow band and to be like the [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► girlfriend of rock musicians was a kind [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► of debasement that the left a lasting [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► scar on women everywhere and then on [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► this panel of all these kind of very [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► serious-minded young writers there was a [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► woman who was now 55 years old who had [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► written a book about her 25 years as a [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► rock groupie and she started off her [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► presentation by saying you know I was 14 [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► years old and I was walking down the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► street in my hometown of San Antonio [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► Texas and Pamela de barres no it's not [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► Pamela march because this is this is the [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► point of her story she lived in San [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► Antonio and so all the big bands came [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► through [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► san antonio but there was no competition [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► in San Antonio to be like a hot rock [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► girl but you it's not like in LA where [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► there's 2,500 a models kind of standing [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► there trying to talk to the band in san [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► antonio she had no competition she and [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► her little group of friends anyway she [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► her story began she's like walking down [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► the street 14 years old and a and a [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► white limo pulls up its 1973 and the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► door opens and it's rod stewart and he's [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► like I can you climb in England and I am [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► I'm from England clouds into the car [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► I used to be from Scotland gaap net you [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► know on the rock star [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► I don't look at me here they sort of [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► these drinks and she climbs into the car [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► and so begins like a 15-year odyssey for [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► her starting admittedly pretty young but [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► she she was dated iggy pop for three [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► years she traveled around the world [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► she's been everywhere up and down and [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► she said it was the greatest experience [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► of your life and then she wouldn't give [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► back a second of it and she and I became [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► fast friends on this panel because we [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► were surrounded by all these very [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► serious bleeding you know you're strong [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► lead i do i was like i'm with you chicky [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► baby you are pre-qualified madam these [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► other the other women up here in their [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► special underwear with their their mean [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► sticks are going to not gonna take the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► fun out of this for me and actually she [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► said from the from the day she was like [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► you're my kind of rock star if I was 20 [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► years younger I was like baby you have [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► to be 20 years younger [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► we got a special connection right now [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► you want to do it just right here on the [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► table but we really it was not we did [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► this this paneling off the field didn't [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► feel they feel like their sides being [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► taken at some point oh my god absolutely [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► well the woman is what i found later was [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► the we're getting questions from the [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► audience and a lot of the questions from [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► the audience were really political [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► really like hyper overthought [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► fourth-generation feminist theory being [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► thrown at I don't think a lot of [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► groupies are going to come to that they [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► got other places to be all who knows who [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► goes to these pop comfort [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► this is honestly but anyway I found [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► later that the woman who had chaired the [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► panel who had slight hand selected me [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► for this thing I mean I'm she's somebody [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► I respect as a writer but she was [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► calling on girls in the crowd whom she [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► knew who were her students in the class [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► she taught so she's calling she's [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► handpicking the people that she's [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► calling on to ask questions because [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► people raising their hands and wanted to [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► ask questions and she's picking these [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► people and I was just like wow this is [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► amazing this crowd is really hostile and [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► they're all asking me how I feel about [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► mind raping the youth of America and I'm [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► like I don't I don't feel like I mind [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► raping anybody you know just well maybe [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► migrating a few people who come on who [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► doesn't [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► anyway so it was it was a little bit of [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► the deck was stacked against against [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► those of us who believe that that sex is [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► not really that big of a deal [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► stacked yeah now now wait nose and [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► ping-pong i would love to close this [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► thread as soon as possible [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► yes I know me too was this was this was [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► just the lady who misspelled feminism I [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► know that was that was lost was a bust [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► magazine the cover I think of a bust [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► right cost ya how to use your family [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► no rain but I still I still have a [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► little jar feminism here in my office in [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► case any feminist come in the middle of [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► the night I can wait with them an easier [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► management it repels there means today I [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► like sticking around that says sticks [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► bell with a why don't you notice i just [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► used a kind of which voice from The [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► Wizard of Oz to describe feminists wow [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► LOL thats so ping pong I think you're [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► gonna get you're gonna get a note about [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that from copyboy a lot i'm gonna be a [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► lot of angry email [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► yeah food because i think i think a lot [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► of our listeners are feminists yes as [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► you and I are I I agree but the thing [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► about feminism it is it's a big tent to [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► pick tennessee senator heavy there's [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► really there's room in there for for all [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► of us but different different viewpoints [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► and different different body decisions [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► actions his positions [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► different positions yeah different [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► costumes lot of decisions are stacked Oh [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► it'sit's on let's move on from the [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► museum [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► do you have a deal with three by five [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► card lying around that you can pick up [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► and just if you like I can read you [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► everything I have one three-by-five [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► cards at this point if it would be [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► useful i don't know i think that would [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► be bad [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► ok I gotta do you want just real quickly [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► yeah go ahead [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► no I mean that's doesn't like to hear [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► from Kat lion's lair groupies we got to [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► talk about cough buttons white members i [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► got a big problem with white limo Spenny [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► him i don't know the white limo [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► okay you know what I'm gonna make a [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► small star next to that would you cheat [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► on Laurie Anderson and why is there [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► never room for middle ground in an [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► argument i also have other things we'd [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► like to get back to sure but I think [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► we've already moved on [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► yes i would say also unto my Wayne story [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► at some point that's be today we you [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► know we just recently broke up and now [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► it makes me sad yeah it was that guy's a [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► hell of a guitar player one of the first [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► people to know about it because I was on [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► Twitter in the middle of the night and [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► Aaron Aaron had that inscrutable to tap [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► yeah and I was like hey look at that I'm [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► here i am i'm right at the front of the [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► bow this boat of knowing well I don't [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► want to upset feminists are weaned yeah [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► but if you if you were going to end a [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► mostly I don't see stalled let's say [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► it's slowed down a lot if you had a [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► slowdown career with a very popular cult [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► band would you move directly to Rod [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► McKuen cover album personally know I [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► personally would not but then i am not a [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► fan of the we're breaking up [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► now after nobody cares points what's the [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► what's the point in general [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► jonathan is a point I don't think REM [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► should have broken up I think you just [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► stopped putting out records and I mean [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► what if you can't handle the occasional [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► fan letter going when's your next record [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► you know and i hope i'm not giving away [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► too much I open but now i'm not gonna [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► get a bunch of tweets from people are [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► like did you break up the long winters [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► and you're just not telling us [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► that's because that's not what it's like [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► breaking up the angry audience at a [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► stadium [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► I mean they're gonna leave once they can [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► find the door yeah right now with all [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► respect banned you have a band at this [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► me personally whining besides you [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► personally are there other people to [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► have people to play instruments are not [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► base its do you think you're asleep my [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► man be okay [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► guess I'm just imagining you like like [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► the guy Mary Poppins we got like symbols [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► between your knees like this and a [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► picture i'm on my back with your parents [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► can is in a man Shh [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► in fact I do have a band and then think [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► about my band is that they're young [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► they're very talented very easy as much [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► easy to push around [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► no no that's not at all is there what [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► the hell was that your salad did that [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► did you just let the air out of the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► pneumatic suspension of your next Arace [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► I like burying the Baron Harkonnen I i [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► do this kind of an open stores and I [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► float and I can't just pick up missing [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► okay i know john i might have official [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► i'm gonna write the shower and off [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► button I just coughed right Mike was [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► getting mad about the cuff button isn't [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► sure as well he's a he says he's gonna [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► buy you a lot of buyers and all I've [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► never seen an actual cough button should [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► we should we mentioned this we should we [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► should we should we should I don't know [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► what it'll just be another of the [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► inscrutable like it in jokes that we [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► have a free of a friend of a friend of [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► the show it in a band who wouldn't you [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► say that he is always a picky about [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► sound but he's a man with really good [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► years and he's you know you can hear the [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► production right thank you he's a he's a [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► legendary person he really is a one of [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► the great on my heroes [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► I think one of the all-time greats this [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► this this listener this podcast listener [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► but definitely definitely in the [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► pantheon of all time greats but he is [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► offended by a great many things [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► yeah but one of those things is that I [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► sometimes and Flemmi honest honest if [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► the right I'm a sniffer and you're a [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► hawker yeah you sniff I and I everyone [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► trying to circulate I'm not say anything [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► i'm trying unconscious and mindful e [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► sitting here I'm trying not to sniff the [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► horizon how many was stuffed up and i'm [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► still at sniffing I approve of that i [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► have a friend here in Seattle who who [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► thinks that his post nasal drip is like [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► such a medical condition that it excuses [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► him from sitting at a white tie dinner [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► and going yeah he is repulsive you got [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► like you got to take that person aside i [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► want to hit him with a bat know I've [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► taken inside a dozen times like I have a [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► medical condition [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► you just don't hear you just have snot [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► on your nose and yeah nobody ever taught [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► you the money don't you do you grab a [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► Kleenex and blow your nose look at you [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► moment you might want and you know what [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► you mean is it a little bit [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► this is one of the many things i would [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► say there's at least a handful of things [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► that must never be done at the table [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► you must not speak on your phone at the [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► table I should leave you should leave [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► vision there you remember when we went [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► into the empty room when we had our last [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► fancy dinner and I needed to talk to my [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► lady I i need to make junk all I laughed [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► remember i left that I remember you [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► remember that creepy couple well I [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► didn't think they were that creepy [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► everybody agreed i mean they were pretty [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► creepy [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► they were super creepy she look Minnie [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► Mouse and he was real small [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► well I mean at San Francisco yeah but [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► people were asking me when we were down [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► it was because she has a broad abroad [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► feminist platform we just recently [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► played in San Francisco and people were [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► saying to me like wow that's a really [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► that was a really weird crowd like a [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► little really like intensely weird group [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► of people at that show and I said it's [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► San Francisco people that's where weird [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► people don't know what I mean let's talk [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► specifics here but it is that if that if [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► that would have to have been your first [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► jonathan coulton show because that is [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► easily the least weird audience i have [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► ever seen anything where Jonathan [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► Coulton is in the building well here he [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► is definitely moving away from singing [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► return [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► yeah butBut the you know but the there's [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► no there's weird but there's people John [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► if you eat as much as you can say are [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► there people who come to the shows [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► dressed up as nemec's we should talk [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► about music I don't i'm not sure you [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► could [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► I'm not trying to look at someone until [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► that they were dressed as a nemec's may [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► be holding a tiny little iphone um [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► here's the thing in any case yes mucus [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► well first of all you need to get up [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► from the table if you're going to take a [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► phone call you contacted maybe you need [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► to stand out on the sidewalk or at least [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► in the in the antechamber give an [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► opinion on using like it seems to me [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► that but you don't have to put your [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► honor I don't know what can I don't even [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► know what you're talking about but yes I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► well my friend scott simpson had [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► attitude about this Kamino through this [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► work but he had attitude about this [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► awhile back that affected me deeply and [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► any AD paraphrasing he said something [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► along the lines of i will judge whether [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► you are a bad person based on whether [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► you use you type on your phone at the [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► table something like that and i don't [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► know i mean that's the thing now that [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► people do and I I really I kind of let [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► me put it this way here's my here's my [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► stand on this [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► I try really hard to not do that until [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► after the entrée has arrived [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► mmm your dad you get your phone out and [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► start start taking pictures of it and [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► tweeting it [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► oh no all you mean like a book by desert [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► with one bite out of it it's so numb [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► oblique and this is this is this is I [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► think you're hot you're costing a lot [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► John do you have a button over there the [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► chinese online help us anyway our friend [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► wants me to get a button he was betting [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► Ivy's gonna send this to deluxe cough [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► buttons to call funds that we can push [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► them to mute our feed so that we can [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► clear our throats in safety without [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► offending people's delicate ears with [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► the sound of our it had our head [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► congestion to see also i got the sense [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► that he's real sensitive about the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► ping-pong talk to you want to still meet [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► that as well [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► well so he is not yet over little there [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► is America's remember the generation [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► that includes yours and mine [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► yeah but is a little bit a little bit [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► earlier he's a little older that's not [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► by much now but just remember that he [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► looks a lot older [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► yeah oh no he does not know he's a diva [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► he's a very very handsome man [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► yeah but anyway he's he's a little bit [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► older than us and so I think he feels [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► like he was really in the trenches more [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► than we were a it in terms of sort of [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the late latter part of the civil rights [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► movement latter part of the the the [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► third-generation feminism the real part [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► of it all that kind of a tease feeling [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► that you know that we are fighting for [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► we are fighting to change the language [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► and the thinking we want to get on the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► right team you want to get on the right [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► team and I think he he he's just a [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► little bit older than us and so although [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► he can be he can be ironic about those [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► things he also still feels like those [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► battles are important and we need to we [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► need to be waging them kind of at all [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► times we need to be vigilant over our [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► language and vigilant over our thought [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► and he's not at you and I are just a [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► little bit more in the camp of at you [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► know people of other races should be [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► sent back to their countries where they [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► came from and a lot of a lot happier to [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► marcus garvey type situation exactly [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► yes I go back to Liberia and start a [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► whole new nation [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► yeah i mean strain the name freedom [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► freedom Liberia Nigeria live which is [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► Latin [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► 444 fun time to send women back to the [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► mall with what why in the name like well [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► I could just wave women just kind of [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► understood like that they can't have it [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► all know and part of not having it all [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► is not sure what it is [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► well that's I'm about to describe it i'm [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► about to define it you can have it is [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► what it is [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► ok you should stop whatever it is [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► whatever i'm complaining because your [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► shrill high-pitched voices being able to [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that's two outs in the eighth [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► I know daddy needs time to think in [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► quiet get that song I you and your [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► ping-pong friends don't know if you [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► remember that do i send him some works [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► that's the price not that I saw that [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► that's what this is the best email [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► thread I've had this week because he's [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► two of my three favorite nobody should [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► use that words [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► yeah um so we are we up with me cons we [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► open for weaned and the time we were [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► before we know because where there's [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► incision and we weren't even on the [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► totem pole we were like we were like in [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the park your local openers we were [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► local openers that got a hundred bucks [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► for the show [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► mm maybe fifty bucks yeah I mean [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► sometimes you get not you know who cares [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► like we all have jobs it was just it was [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► an honor really truly I mean in [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► retrospect I mean you know I'm in my [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► twenties and hoping for these bands that [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► are you know like for real you're in [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► your forties and you're still talking [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► about it so that like that like the [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► poster children like his second and that [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► wouldn't have happened if I wasn't [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► living in this countdown but anyway in [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► you know it's a dumb story is no doors [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► now it's a dumb story [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► yeah I can I gave them a present which [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► is creepy you shouldn't give people [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► presents when they're onto recently they [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► got either packer throw throw throw it [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► away sure their English but I mean [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that's well now that this it is an [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► interesting thread though that I that I [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► just had not read not very long ago [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► which is that if someone gives you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► something when you're on tour a fan [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► gives you something particularly [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► something they made either a food item [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► or a piece of fan art in a wicker chair [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► or wicker chair or like a like it's [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► something cast iron that they made in [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► their forge give a fan gives you [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► something on two and four church [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► you cannot throw it away that not ok its [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► finest right that luck [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► it's but i think it's extremely bad luck [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► and it's also bad faith [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► and it's like that listen a fan has made [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► this for you there is something sacred [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► about it but I was talking to sort of a [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► crew in a crew context talking to a [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► group of people who work which was made [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► up of some more musicians but some were [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► touring crew people and the crew people [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► all agreed they all said I mean the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► solution to that is that you if you if [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► the fan has made something for you that [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► spooks you which witch happens they [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► bring something to show they're like I [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► made this for you and it's like oh [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► that's a voodoo doll that your hair or [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► the had something that's not that's not [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► a hundred percent cool with me this is a [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► microphone what you can do that then [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► this was this was the crew speaking they [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► were like you gift it to a member of the [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► crew and then the crew can do whatever [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► they want me to make a bong out of it [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► so those items of a fan material that [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► you get where you're like oh like I just [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► got a bunch of cookies that all look [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► like me except they have big gingerbread [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► penises on them and I don't want those I [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► don't know why somebody would make me [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► where do you take the first bite I [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► usually bite the head off but that would [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► be really confusing i don't want to keep [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► them but I don't want I definitely don't [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► want to just throw them away either that [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► seems like a really particular to the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► proper cookie plane [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► no I'm going to talk about them anymore [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► but if you have them to the crew then [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► the then you what you have done is given [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► a gift [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► yes which like releases you from the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► bond and the crew of course those people [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► have no he left wrist out some people [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► morals of that almost now and well that [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► but then the cookie that the penis [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► cookies go away and everybody is fine [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► maybe you distracted the crew for a [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► while which is not a bad idea is given [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► the crew something to think about and [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► giving them a present from our hands a [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► little bit you know and if it shows up [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► on ebay later [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► that's it that's on them that's not on [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► you yeah [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► so anyway it was that that's that's a [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► little bit of like rock-and-roll science [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► I don't do it up cannot throw something [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► away that I want to make it awkward John [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► but you are a strike me as a very light [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► packer and in a sense that you literally [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► wear the same thing everyday and you [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► have a very I think in my experience you [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► have a pretty easy try that bag I gave [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► it's kind of lame isn't it no no it's [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► good i just did you get this restaurant [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► now we found this trap we haven't given [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► it the next time you come up with [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► something you just wrap everything [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► strapped that's how you throw me the [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► cello I throw you the strap [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► oh that a good deal is that challenge [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► that challenge thing we frightened about [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► that you can send me a fucking joke [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► listen the cello is worth more than the [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► strap I don't think so you try to travel [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► with the cello and you're gonna have to [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► have to check that you would have to [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► check this your package shallow you [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► would not be able to pack it because it [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► doesn't have a case it's a it's just a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► free it's a free cello to consider an [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► extremely honest man so I would never [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► want to take you to anything like a task [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► on this but you're telling me that you [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► actually sometimes take stuff with you [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► that people have given you that's [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► non-perishable if somebody made you if [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► you see if somebody made you a little [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► John a hair like would you would you [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► actually put that in your bag and then [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► where would that go to take that home [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► with you being honest [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► well yeah in fact we're back when I had [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► a tour van we had a kind of mean a lot [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► of a lot of bands with to advance the [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► dashboard ends up being kind of shrine [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► where all your old backstage passes and [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► little shit that fans have given you it [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► all gets you know death cab for cutie's [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► to have a have a box of peeps up there [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► that it melted in the sun and so it's [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► like a bunch of melted peach something [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► like a tinkerbell poster a tinkle tinkle [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► Bell poster benefited did she did an [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► entire tour sitting up on the on the [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► dashboard of the van [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► whenever I always going to ask you is it [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► rolled up the whole time it was rolled [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► up everything you nuts [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► no no every time one of the my bandmates [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► would be like what is this thing can we [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► get this off the dash I'd be like get [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► your hands off [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► don't touch it don't look at it like [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► it's not it's not there [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► there's no is it not like don't you [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► matter what it is and I'll know if you [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► looked at it [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► my mind just happened with me and it's I [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► got two angles on this there's the one [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► angle of oh my god this is like the [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► sweetest thing in the world that you [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► give me like sometimes people are really [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► sweet about like going to talk to [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► somebody gives me like a present for my [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► daughter or something like that and you [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► know I feel I and if it was in town i [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► would i would absolutely bring it home [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► but the problem is like if you've gotta [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► travel and like I'm already i'm such a [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► bad packer III really seriously like to [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► quote you know so I felt like Diana Ross [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► I have suffering so much stuff I don't [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► need is already packed i'm late i'm [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► hungover I understand what I'm telling [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► you is you cannot just never do it [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► cannot arbitrarily throw that stuff when [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► you consider just throwing it away in a [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► garbage can they wouldn't sell you have [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► to give it as a gift to somebody that [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► you have to break the spell but it but [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► yeah we are somebody made somebody [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► people used to make incredible stuff for [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► us i had a set of beads that said the [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► long winters that's so that's so sweet [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► and you put that somewhere in a [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► collection of your home i do have them [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► somewhere there's a there's a little [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► remember the old penguin shirt that we [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► had it was a it was a little fat pain [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► when on a in a circle that let's set the [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► long winters under it [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► yeah somebody made a stuffed penguin [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► that's how sweet now crafts I like [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► crafts very nice very much and i think [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► is my friend Moxie she gave me like a [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► felt finger puppet and the finger puppet [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► had its own finger puppet and i love it [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► but that's around cold water thing right [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► there she doesn't like that thats it [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► thats that would be typical of her to [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► teach my past if somebody I should have [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► had a cough button because i just made a [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► little snort I think you did [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► so why did you all over the fallout [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► somebody just email the state think you [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► did the mucus DoublePlay tinker to Evers [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► done it gives you a finger puppet [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► oh it was felt there's very little it [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► was very little all other dimension [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► ok connect can ask you just a couple [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► quick questions about this and I i don't [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► mean this to turn into a lightning round [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► ok so one that's easy to cross off is if [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► it is food you like if you if its food [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► you like and it doesn't seem like [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► there's anything weird innit [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► we try it maybe eat it this is the thing [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► that people give me food all the time [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► mhm have a couple of fans that I like [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► very much who [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► Tina give me food use cookies and cake [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► and one that is that it's really [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► well-made stuff and it's just delicious [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► and everybody loves anticipated you come [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► to town you gonna get cookies and cake [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► absolutely when in fact uh in fact there [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► we have a friend in San Francisco always [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► makes us black bottom of brownies black [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► bottom cupcakes that's okay it's not [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► ping-pong i love she is an Asian person [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► here so it's you do with it what you [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► will [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► and right now by saying nothing anywhere [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► but there are other times like like one [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► time i was i was playing in in portland [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► and some read students some students [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► from reed college came and get an had a [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► bunch of cupcakes and over like we made [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► these cupcakes and I was like Reed is [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► the type of place where people would put [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► LSD and cupcakes and give them to a band [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► i want you know eggs i feel like right [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► and no eggs no no animals were were [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► enslaved to make these LSD cupcakes that [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► was made from wheat grass and hash so I [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► was so I said to them from the stage was [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► like you don't have there are no LSDs in [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► these cupcakes are they [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► oregon and they they all were like haha [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► no no way T let's not evil i'm giving [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► these to the crew is and you know I've [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► never better crew person that wouldn't [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► eat a vegan LSD cupcake I could eat an [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► sm57 a lot of them look at this I'm [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► gonna check i'm gonna check out food [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► food comma ok food now what and i'm [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► going to click and mail chip cookies are [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► always all boy i love it i love a cookie [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► and let's be nice for you know I I don't [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► do this as much anymore because you [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► always say no but the one exception of [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► the time you're desperately ill and I [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► brought you some cold medicine I in the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► past I used to always ask do you need [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► you probably got the areas and pics but [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► like do you is there anything I can [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► bring you that would bring you comfort [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► and you always say no because you're [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► gentlemen but you know I it must be you [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► want to have that comfort when you [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► arrive somewhere and if you've got a [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► cake waiting for you in a room like you [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► don't touch that alcohol I think I don't [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► like five years by the way you're [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► welcome to them [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's gotten pretty much [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► cleaned at you Jonathan you got you [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► you guys did good you made sure there [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► was no Brandi left he made sure there [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► was [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► no I'm writing on subway on a card I [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► mean you know the last time I saw you [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► you were standing on the street in front [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► of a subway and you doing brother open [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► superseries front of an open sewer and [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► you were eating the last of for Subway [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► sandwiches huh [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► now what that remember i would have been [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► back for more let's go yeah we did [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► you're like hey this party's really [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► going anywhere to eat it with be better [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► like god it stinks it smells like shit [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► and piss in this on the sidewalk and [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► you're like I'm going for more damages I [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► thought you guys were going to have them [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► with me some stay there like a dope with [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► this plastic bag full of like crappy [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► sandwiches at two in the morning anyway [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► um so if I can just I want to make it a [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► little suitcase somewhere I can cross [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► that off thank you em behind I don't [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► smoke but thank you for tuning that I [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► two more okay how about this [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► so this is the one this is the one I [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► have a problem with and I struggle with [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► this because everywhere you go [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► somebody's got a shirt and and it's it's [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► kind of and it is super nice thing but [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► like I personally I want to give you a [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► shirt [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► starting to think yeah exactly starting [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► in 2006 i turned a corner because i used [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► to be rock and roll short guy like I [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► always wanna rock'n'roll shirt and I [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► mean I had really really really good [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► shirts and yeah you did I might have had [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► a leader Egypt and I remember anyway [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► yeah you know you know what you know [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► what have you seen that I had in my [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► heart makin sure I totally did [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah had a bacon stain on it my [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► payment shirt with a cool one the green [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► one I had bacon stain on it or I had a [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► dump trucks your that's weird bacon [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► yeah the making because you had a really [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► cool down structured a really cool [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► replacement you know what I said I said [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► this is it this is done this is this is [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► silly i'm at the time I was like 50 and [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► I said I got to get rid of these i get [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► rid of them [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► I did I I got all I took photos of a lot [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► of them like my archers of loaf shirt i [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► knew i was gonna miss that was really [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► nice like long-sleeve when they made [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► nice shirts you know guy dribbles you [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► don't just put in a you didn't just put [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► it in a box and put it in the added [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► value that actually the point is the [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► stop putting things in boxes John that [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► was the point of our purge and I made a [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► lot of tough decisions i got rid of some [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► nice bags you know what what what a good [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► solution to that is I will see quilts [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and pillows and quilts right you're hit [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► you're here [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► hip to the sentencing creepy at all to [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► make it making sure the quality of your [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► own shirts rock-and-roll band shirt for [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► you what do you put that though you put [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► it on your bed like a gentleman you put [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► it on your bed and you pull it up under [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► your chin when you're cold in the winter [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► you know what I wish I could go back [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► the point is I turned a corner I said [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► look I really white shirts that don't [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► have yellow pits and I need to buy new [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► ones i need to have I mean I'm a man now [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► i can have all the stuff I got rid of [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► them and the thing is when i did that [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► and I made that difficult decision of [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► getting rid of the dump truck sure which [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► really was discussing it was from like [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► 1988 and was totally gross right and [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► that was still wearing it you know and [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► i'm like a family and so excuse me I'm [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► gonna wish you hadn't melted my bros [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► pretty late into your thirties I would I [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► don't think we're done i don't think [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► we're done with that trip yeah i really [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► don't i mean if i could if i can eat [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► that many sandwiches in front of an open [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► sewer with you I i got the things i need [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► to get their PMT's to they were done [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► with all any fall and you're like I bet [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► you're getting extra monkey peppers on [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► him or something you like giving your bb [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► mt with extra might have a side of [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► subway system that if you were not too [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► snarky i would share with you because [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► starbucks and subway is all you can [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► count on when you travel and i will give [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you advice that you will not take [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► somebody move on i want a subway [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► sandwich at subway in bellingham [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► washington right before going into [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► Canada their knowledge eyes I had it [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► didn't because it was American but I had [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► explosive poops haha two days afterwards [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► and I didn't have banana peppers banana [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► peppers I gonna get banana peppers and [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► I'm not gonna eat there anymore and I [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► did meet there for like eight years [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► until standing on the street corner on [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► on marketing in san francisco CA where [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► is a totally sketchy neighborhood in [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► instances yeah but it wasn't able to get [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► the sewer with a lot and you're the only [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► guy in the entire group that could even [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► conceivably handle being punched by [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► somebody i was also the only guy that [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► wasn't like switch swilling off of a [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► brandy bottle in the been on the side [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► have no recollection of any that John I [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► don't think that happened it wasn't it [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► was a constant so the point is like I [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► love people and I love their companies [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► and I love their website they're all [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► good people but like I just bring your [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► t-shirt that is a relatively inexpensive [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► shirt with the logo of a company on it [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► here's the problem now I gotta carry [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► oh yeah now that you know what I feel [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► like the exception to this is when [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► somebody gives you swag from theirs from [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► their company you can put that [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► immediately in the garbage [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► okay that is not a fan so if you get up [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► she not get a cheap pen or a paperweight [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► or like a bottle opener guard balls are [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► Bosh ok alright well good i don't see [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► what I'm saying now that did this isn't [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► does not put a anything like a lie to [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► your system it's a fan has made [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► something beautiful for you i'm not [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► talking about that I'm talking I'm [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► talking about and get something like [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► this number three because number three [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► is going to be I really want to hear [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► your advice on number three are no but I [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► feel like I feel like any kind of [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► company swag like here's something [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► that's been happening to me recently [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► that is that is really really that is [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► really trying my gears i do not have [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► enough oil and I have enough machine oil [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► in the world to keep my gears running [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► smoothly and somebody comes up to me at [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► a show and says hi I'm make instruments [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► i make effects pedals or I make guitars [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► and i would like to make a guitar for [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► you and I go wow that's amazing really [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► they're like yes I make guitars and i'm [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► a big fan of you and I want to make you [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► a guitar and I go wow I would love for [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► you to make me a guitar and they go [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► great can I have your email address and [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► I'll to contact you and we'll talk about [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► it and I'm like that's fantastic here's [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► my email address and then the next day [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► they sent me an email that says great [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► well i'm gonna start working on your [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► guitar and let's talk about artists [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► pricing [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► oh come on and I'm like artists pricing [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► here is what you said I'm going to make [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► your guitar that means you are going to [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► make me a guitar and give it to me that [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► does not mean that you are going to sell [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► me a guitar that is not what I let me [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► make you guitar means yeah and and that [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► is a that is I think I'm much more [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► common thing now where people are like I [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► love you and I really want to make you [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► something great get started okay here's [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► my price because this straight straight [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► in number three if i could get the risk [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► of courting a neologism that is not a [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► gift that is a grift a grift that is [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► that is a grift because it feels like a [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► gift but it's actually a little bit [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► scroogie so here's number three okay so [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► you say yes [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► probably maybe to food that's a [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► case-by-case basis depends on a lot of [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► factors you know what you have to look [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► into the eyes of someone who's giving [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► you food [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► oh you can see you can see did the pools [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► of concern [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► it's like it's like the the way the [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► Israelis handle airport security they [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► don't make everyone a speaker shoes off [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► they just stand out in front of the [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► airport and they look everybody in the [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► eye as they're walking in that you get [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► good at that you get really good at it [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► and the thing is if you're going to blow [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► up a plane and you're walking into an [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► airport and some a sum like young army [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► guy looks you in the eye you give it all [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► away i don't care what how much of a [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► sociopath you are you give it all away [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you cannot going to look something I'd [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► be like to do with your mom here because [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► the thing is like no eye contact that [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► can be sketchy when too much eye contact [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► you been practicing [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► that's right these guys aren't these [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► guys are trained to pull you aside and [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► say you know whose shoes were gonna take [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► off your shoes and you know who's we're [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► not gonna take off the little old lady [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► who doesn't mean you know we missed a [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► wiener we missed a fucking flight on [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► this last to her because the TSA it [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► goddamn minneapolis doesn't it as [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► seriously could not solve a simple to [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► Doku this TSA a lot of Methodist this [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► misty as they could not figure out how [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► to get the other toilet paper roll in [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► one of those double toilet paper roll [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► systems in a public bathroom they could [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► not figure out how to get that other [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► toilet paper roll over when the first [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► toilet paper rolls out Caroline that [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► they are listening to a tsa that I've [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► ever seen and they literally actually [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► said to us when we complained [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► we're not in the customer service [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► business [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► oh boy wrong thing to say and I swear to [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► God I it took everything in my power the [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► only reason I did not give a long [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► lecture the only reason i did not stand [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► up on the conveyor belt and a long [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► lecture is because i knew i would be [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► pulled down and put into a jail that's [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► the only TV which you eat walking you [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► can click its I would be for keeping [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► plays until they turned it off [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► I be standing there walking in place [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► saying people of America but i knew i [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► would be put into a jail and so I kept [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► my mouth shut but you also inconvenience [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► everybody writing computer [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► doesn't work because now they got value [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► out but not have been more inconvenient [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► than we were inconvenienced by this [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► incompetent tsa who are fighting the [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► last war but anyway in case it was the [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► only time in my whole life this has [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► happened when i got to the gate and they [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► had closed the gate five minutes before [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► because we spent an hour at TSA GYN even [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► tried I've at all [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► oh I mean I told the woman at the gate I [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► was like you know my dad my dad would [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► have this that plane back here and she [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► was like yeah a lot of things have [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► changed since the seventies and I was [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► like no I'm serious if my dad was alive [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► yeah we open this you would be opening [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► this for me that is the most flaccid [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► satisfaction demand I've ever heard i [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► could just see him going to know what [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► color I go sit down [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► ya know they were I mean we were all [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► laughing she was like yeah i mean in the [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► old days they would have brought it back [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► and they probably would've given you [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► guys free drinks now but everything's [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► everything's changed everything's [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► changing the plane is going and she's [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► like she points out the windshield like [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► see that the plane still here [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► it's still connected to the building [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► known open the door to door is shut and [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► it shuts ask me again [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► mitten it say all the things in the [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► world you want to say but this door [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► could not be more shut there aren't done [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► more shot far the phone call your dad [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► and I don't like facing back and forth i [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► was thinking maybe I should go back to [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► TSA and give that speech in any case [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► let's go back through my father [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► ja shot a Japanese zero out of the sky [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► with a 45 he wasn't supposed to have [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► through the window of his god damn [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► airplane was moving and you people [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► God isn't a training day it's a subway [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► sandwich falling from your beard but [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► this is the thing about taking food from [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► people at rock so you look at any eyes [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► looking like you look you give them [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► Israeli eyes you look at him like a like [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► a member of the Israeli airport command [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► given Israeli as nice thing is that a [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► you say are you carrying a bomb do your [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► cupcakes LSD and you and nine times out [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► of ten 99.999 percent of the time you're [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► going to get you're gonna get all you [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► know all you need to know through their [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► eyes [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► well this is probably covered in that [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► first of all this is a fantastic tip for [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► like a million things but I'm guessing [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► this is probably covered in your special [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► forces book i think this is part of [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► interrogation I i think this is part of [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► you know this phony baloney lie-detector [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► test [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► I think the problem is you mix it up [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► right you ask him a question like are [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► you okay look at me are you a long [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► winter show right now [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► yes yes are you did you make your own [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► clothes [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► yes is there always be in my kids [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► they'll stay in the cupcakes know your [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► mother's name Sally gonna mix it up and [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► you call them for a long time before you [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► said know exactly you took to let you [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► took too long i'm not touching the cakes [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► and I bet you that's what the Israeli [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► guys do here's the problem also with [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► this nonsense you're talking about and [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► that you know and I hate talking about [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► travel except i hate it so much [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► no se SI thing it's just it's just the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► worst because first of all of these [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► folks you know they're not actually like [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► police officers right you understand [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► that they're they're basically like bank [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► tellers with fake uniforms are you [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► asking me because yes i dunno ok alright [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► these people these people could not get [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► jobs on a ball that i'm not at all I [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► mean like not not you're not saying just [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► a security guard you're saying they [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► couldn't be at the info booth they [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► couldn't be in Julie's I could make a [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► knot practicals and it cuts me at the [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► bead store the thing here's the here's [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► the problem [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► okay here's the thing this is this is [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► the thing that pisses me off the Central [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► Intelligence Agency will not hire you if [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► you have smoked marijuana or set a bad [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► thing on the internet about America or [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► done anything other than be a total [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► straight-arrow all the way through [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► school and go to Yale and be like a [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► complete ramrod up your rectum [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► mhm that's the only way you're going to [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► get it all makes sense [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► merely on the surface only on the [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► surface doesn't make sense you're like [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► so much less sense in the day-to-day [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► affairs of the CIA agent that is such a [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► terrible idea [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► correct if you are it might be good for [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► a minister that's terrible for somebody [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► who has to think like one of the folks [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► there trying to defeat if you are in the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► field there is there is probably no [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► better CIA agent that a guy who smoked a [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► bunch of weed [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► and as a periodically trafficked in like [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► Rare tortoises and you know like and was [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► maybe a white slave trader for a while [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► like these are the God quit he quit he [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► quit because his love America compelled [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► him to go to work like the idea that [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► he's still a little bit of a wild card I [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► know I'm in no position to run the CIA [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► and I don't want to pander but if it [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► were me and I were looking at some [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► resumes or not resumes maybe i'm looking [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► at something that's been written on a [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► garbage can lid that ends up being much [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► more effective this person says you know [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► what I used to have a crippling problem [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► with alcohol and drugs i have made a lot [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► of people's life hell and I'm not afraid [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► to blow something up from in the right [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► mood you know why do i say I is fill out [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► some forms you're well informed [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► hello you don't exist will disavow all [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► knowledge of you but we need you [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► garbage anyway how many people have you [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► killed with scissors that is a question [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► that I I think should be on this year [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► because you know here's the thing it's [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► like the David Allen says write the [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► worst time to train for getting jumped [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► in an alley is when you're getting [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► jumped in an alley he's killed a lot of [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► people with scissors you get the [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► confidence to start killing people with [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► children scissors [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► once you kill people children scissors [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► he misses me yes it precisely precisely [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► left-handed safety scissors [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► those are hard you your paper gets all [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► screwed up and then how about this you [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► move to mechanical pencils and then you [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► move your fucking pinky pinky only [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► eyeball no fucking chemical pencils you [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► like him at all [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► oh I had these ones i really like a lot [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► they're called golden bears they're [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► really help you but you know there's a [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► part of you that's like Japanese that [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► part of you that's your problem is so [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► much Japanese your Japanese there's a [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► little better you that's Japanese your [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► problem is you're not you are deeply [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► french in a way that you have never [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► accepted [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► that's not true a third problem the only [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► part of me that's French is that when i [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► invade France yeah I get a little bit of [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► it on me and you give it some tongue I [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► do third-level grilled what's the third [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► level of rift ok and i have a frenemy [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► who does this is it is your nemesis now [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► he does deserve to be mrs. nobody's [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► there i have not yet met the person who [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► deserves to be my nemesis the problem is [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► only a nemesis oh you kidding me [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► my nemesis must be earned because I'm [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► trying to figure out what an evil Merlin [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► man would look like I guess pretty much [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► like me with glasses glasses something [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► now I system through muy this beautiful [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► beautiful glasses you gave me I never [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► told you about this [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► yeah well i know i'm trying to block it [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► out john III you should see the shit I'm [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► wearing now it's ridiculous it's [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► ridiculous it's not some warby parker [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► horse crap is it [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► here's the thing the guy who gives you [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► the gift [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► yeah of his checkbook was a chapbook [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► it's a self-published book of his poems [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► or essays [TS]