Roderick on the Line

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00:00:13 ◼   ► hello I John I'm Maryland how are you [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► I'm good sound subdued mmm well it's so [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► early food we're recording on a [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► different day than usual and it's [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► exactly the same time we usually record [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► which is 20 minutes late just 120 [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► minutes after we agreed to meet ya but [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► the fact that it's a different day makes [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► it feel really early do you anything [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► differently to prepare for the show for [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► recording do you do any kind of [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► stretches or have any special angles you [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► apply um i want what i do to prepare [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► fresh as i wake up earlier than I [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► normally would [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► that is the preparation that I have I'm [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► so sorry no no it's perfectly fine i [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► should wake up before noon [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► well I should be a good father Eric [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► great father [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► I you know what I have really mixed [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► emotions about this first of all I am [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► sorry i know you are sorry that's your [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► primary emotion is a great was poorly i [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► love you will say poorly poorly [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yeah yeah they say on Deadwood a lot i [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► think its way people used to say I think [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► maybe English people still say it on [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► poorly today [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► oh I'm poorly yeah like you know I'm [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► feeling poorly no feeling poorly would [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► be like the way my grandfather would say [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► well it's like the fashion that that [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► swept our great nation to respond to the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► question how you doing uh-huh with well [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► instead of good [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► remember when we were kids if somebody [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► said how ru you said good even get a [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► problem with that [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► no not at all but there was a there was [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► a moment in time where someone decided [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► that good was the with some you know [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► someone started saying to their friends [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► in an elementary school teachers voice [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you know properly we should say well [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► instead of good sometimes use with your [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► what's your what's your preference / [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► beef like you like good i have no [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► preference or beef [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► it's just something that I that I am [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► noting who that there that the use of [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► well the supplant ation of good with [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► well [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► swept our country and now everywhere you [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► if you say to a barista how you doing [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► today they go I'm well how are you [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► yes right no one and and if somebody [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► says if somebody says I'm good how are [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► generally most people say I'm well and [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► it's a kind of it's a little bit of a [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► like a it's a little bit because I [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► talked about mrs. speaking people talk [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► about mare it's like reaching its a [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► grammar reach-around I met well then [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► you're like oh you know it's interesting [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► though is also just in hearing you say [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► that bc good try to get the same here [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► i'm well it you if you say I am well you [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► can't help it sound like you paused in [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► our little fancy that's right you paused [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and you were like should I be saying [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► should be saying I or me [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► I am what meet me and well well as I [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► it's anybody know you know it's a really [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► good point and I'm usually a bit of a [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► stickler about those things [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► yeah but the thing is it swept the [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► country in such a way that the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► implication was that saying i am good [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► was improper and in fact same i'm good [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► is just fine i think that counts as [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► vernacular and I got a safe if you're on [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► track if you're feeling upbeat you know [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► I'm well sounds like I'm undiagnosed [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► haha he say I'm hey do you good and I [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► think that's man that is efficient as [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► shit that's so good [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► it's like so well yeah I'm well I given [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► gonna give you you know a bellingham but [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► can i give you a-a bellingham ease [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► reframe on this something I've heard an [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► occasional benefits a correction or just [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► not blocked a lot of it out but [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► sometimes people will say you know well [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► you know there's only one way to do good [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► you know which is to tell you it's like [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► you know shutout and that's the that's [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► the that's the slap that's the slap [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► engendering wave wave correcting people [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► is that a little bit the Hemis you think [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► there is no one in bellingham for the [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► last seven years that has ever said they [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► were good they all are well unless they [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► worked at the magazine [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► it is get a magazine called good i'm [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► sure there is [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► I'm sure it features local locally [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► artist finely crafted it's beautifully [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► designed of course i'm pretty sure al [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► gore is involved again it's that the [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► design like the magazine itself is [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► extremely pleased with it [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► yeah well I met and I think personally I [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► feel like if you have if you have [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► completely replaced describing yourself [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► as doing good with describing yourself [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► is doing well if you have completely [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► replaced it [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► I mean I i use the two interchangeably [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► but if you if you can never ever say to [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► somebody that you're doing good then [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► you're a little pleased with yourself [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► like people need to reintroduce that [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► sometimes you know what the correct [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► answer is that you're doing good and if [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► you can't do that if you're if you're so [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► convinced that well is the only proper [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► response huh [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► and your little precious and you need to [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► check yourself oh and you know i'd like [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► to see at the return of feeling fine up [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► like that which is a little bit like [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► certainly on the pie graph thirty [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► percent is gonna that's gonna be you [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► know towers snipers and white van people [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► but you know i think that's that's kind [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► of you see you in five somebody says how [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► you doing yusei feeling fine and a [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► cartoon rainbow doesn't come from behind [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► I'm like little cartoon birds are [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► suddenly sitting around your head then [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► you're not gonna answer your question [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► give me three other ways to make a [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► cartoon rainbow and birds appear without [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► saying feeling fine [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► it's an incantation of joy it is it [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► really is although if your name is Uncle [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► Remus why that's a dirty name you can [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► you can conjure rainbows and birthdate [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► and you know how do you mind the [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► ping-pong that sounds like a porn name [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► Remus I never thought of it that way Oh [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► Uncle Remus I want to come back to my [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► second reason was a local liquor driver [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► i wanna come back to my a second reason [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► that I I discussing like I feel bad [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► about getting up early but coupl couple [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► points [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► these are two that I'm a little bit [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► pedantic about just with me just with [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► myself one that drives me a little bit [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► crazy just to get it out of the way is [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► people using [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► and I in the object of a sentence [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► give me an example Jim came to the [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► abattoir with Lucille and I because [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► people think they're there mrs. howl o [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► thats turn and they were corrected so [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► many times so it so many I think for [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► some reason I as kids they think you [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► think of yourself as me this is me this [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► is for me because that you are the [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► object of everything in the world [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► another something someone hit you on the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► knuckles with a ruler for five years [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► saying it's not me it's i right [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► and now you now you do it without you [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► don't he's going without understanding [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► why you do without understanding the [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► grammar and you use and I in situations [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► I don't make it Japanese two hours [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► getting a German but now I think you're [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► thinking more about corporal punishment [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► than you are about communicating clearly [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► right for or or you're thinking more [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► about now that you have been improperly [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► school now [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► now your job in the world is to go [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► improperly school and now we're back in [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► England with a spanking is contagious [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► how can you have your putting when you [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► don't eat your meat [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► oh no you know you know what that are [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► you got started without you are [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► absolutely right now [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► it absolutely and you know that start [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► with him spitting on a fan spinning on a [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► on a on a fan of the band we're going on [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► down in an electric fan this is a reason [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► that I would like roger waters and Mike [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► love to being a super super band [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► together because it was relieved me wen [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► ru conflating robbed the great roger [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► waters with mike no no I'm not [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► complaining I'm just saying that they [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► should both never stopped being hit by [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► somebody maybe really o.o you know what [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► we should come up with a new game you [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► can pick up an electric fan that has [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► like rubber gloves are at the end of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► popsicle sticks haha it's just this fan [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► spins and the role of my god that's apt [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► 1132 on this day I want to keep it [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► timeless this is the day that I figured [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► out my first fucking Kickstarter i will [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► give a nickel to and that is the Michael [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► of slapping fan of my club slapping fan [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► take off that hat [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► you've been following since surfin USA [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► take that thing off [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► ok ok shoot i'm getting Deeping stack ok [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► so first of all and i also want to [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► provide our listeners John I'll never be [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► as helpful as you but perhaps you can [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► share with me what do you think this [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► is as useful as i have found it so first [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► of all only say I if it's in the subject [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► of the sentence right i just think it's [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► good things are done to me right object [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► object and here's the really simple way [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► I don't be panic i wanna be helpful but [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► here's the thing take off the was like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► Stephanie what was the name and I forget [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► to Lucille so you say Jim Jim came to [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► the average war with Lucille and I take [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► off Lucille and how would you say it [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► would you say Jim came to the abattoir [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► with I yes no you would not [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► doesn't anyone football here's what's [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► confusing because you would say Lucy [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► when I went to the store and so people [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► are people become accustomed to thinking [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► that maybe there's two sure that that [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► that that that little claws or that [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► phrase that is is you can its mobile and [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► you can use it as a subject or an object [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► i bet you the Inuit don't have any [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► problem with this was in order Eskimos [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► with this one's a language and one is a [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► docs letting people know there are [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► Inuits and Eskimos this is complicated [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► case [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► ok my somebody people are all the time [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► saying like saying to me because [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► correcting you [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► oh no they're not I don't directly but [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► they're like so what about the what [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► about those Aleuts up in the upper [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Eskimo country and I'm like you're [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► getting it you're getting it wrong [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► there are aliens there i say is you [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► Allie you to cali out lu that's right [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► the newest and Eskimos and at the [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► Baskins which are Indians not an Eskimo [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► people not am NOT a seafaring people the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► Athabascan that you wouldn't call those [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► Indians Native Americans you would in [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► fact you would call the at the Baskins [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► well I you know what I don't call anyone [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► Native Americans because i think it's a [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► dumb three its own phrase but remember [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► that show we could put up because I mean [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► going off on african-american remember [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► and while you was justyou were just [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► going off on everybody yeah it was great [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► it was really it was really wonderful [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► and maybe one day when the world has [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► evolved to a place where people have [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► enough understanding that they can [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► appreciate that you don't like other [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► races in your country now we can play [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► that episode [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► but anyway at the Baskins are asking [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► they are related to like the Shoshoni I [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► mean they're related to the Indians that [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► live in the continental United States [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► whereas the Inuits and the Aleuts are [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► more what you would call that in fact i [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► think they are closer a genetic [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► genetically to the southeast Pacific [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► island people there they are seafaring [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► people from the coasts who arrived in [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► boats kind of Pangaea kev elution can [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► keep up with us a little bit past a [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► little bit after Pangaea about land [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► bridge what you're thinking of his land [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► bridge you're thinking I that's when [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► they walked like from the from the [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► former Soviet Union to Anchorage correct [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► ok correct deliver Soviets picking my [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► third one [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► yeah let's do this one is a personal [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► mission and this is more of something [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► that I would like to try and advocate [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► for or as the grammarian to say that i'd [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► like to advocate for which you would for [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► which like to advocate ok John thank you [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► yes what do you say you want [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► thank you thank you for sitting you know [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► what thank you for saying thank you for [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► saying you're welcome [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► I've realized i'm becoming troubled by [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► no problem no problem [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► think about it thank you no problem well [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► you know what you know we're at white [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► where I think that's coming from it's [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► coming from the ubiquitous Donata oh you [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► find that ubiquitous well the it is no [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► longer ubiquitous but there was a there [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► was a time there in the eighties and [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► early nineties when the kind of Jimmy [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► Buffett ization of the Southwest was [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► happening and everybody was wearing puka [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► shells and there was a lot of de nada [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► happening then I hey a Cheech Donata I [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► think that a little bit Spicoli to it [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► there's some Spicoli to it and I think [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► it just at that has passed that the that [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► dark cloud has passed in America but i [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► think one of the residuals of it is that [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► people said no problem now what they [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► mean is you're welcome [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► and is it the to the to that it may be [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► worse than that [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► one-eyed wha-what waitstaff not a [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► problem [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► oh yeah but what the fuck does that mean [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► thank you [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► not a problem but yeah well I'm i [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► believe in that is that there's a wait [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► staff in America at least have been [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► trained by one another [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► I know I know outside force but they [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► trained one another to think that they [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► are an oppressed class of of artists and [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► poets who have been forced into waiting [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► who have been forced into servitude do [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► by an unjust system so every time you [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► say hey thanks you know thanks for that [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► glass of water then I asked for 11 [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► minutes ago and they say not a problem [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► but they're what they're trying to say [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► to you is I shouldn't be waiting tables [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► I should be on the big stage [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► that's good i should be on what Donna's [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► dancers and it's like no you shouldn't [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► you should have brought me this glass of [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► water four minutes ago right after I [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► asked for [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► oh boy this is something that's the big [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► card and then finally I just wanna leave [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► often this is this is seriously [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► punchable a beach bar or taqueria or [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► briefs to shit [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► mom it's all good it's all good i really [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► don't like it's all good in any form or [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► fashion but especially and now so anyway [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► now let me ask you this here's the big [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► one and this is the one I struggle with [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► this is 10 * often it's not talking you [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► know what [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► hey shaka-brah rape she put the shell a [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► date rape you gotta throw that whenever [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► someone says thank you just made a very [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► attractive very popular way to do it you [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► know carrots and a drape the arm okay [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► and then here's the final causes tedious [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► and cut all this out and this is the one [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► where I suffer because here's my feeling [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► is that when someone says thank you [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► you should respond by saying you're [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► welcome and you know what my biggest [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► offender is if you don't mind would you [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► please say thank you thank you thank you [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► oh right that's very belling him it's [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► well and it's very it's very waitstaff [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► II like it you know what I mean it'sit's [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► and but I don't mind that one so much [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► but i think i can do you know what I [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► think I'm capable of better and i think [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► that we as a culture are better and more [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► device has been on wait staff Jon I [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► think what we're saying is we're not [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► simply teaching each other as wait staff [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► to be passive aggressive because we're [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► not on Broadway so to speak but I think [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► we're also developing a kind of cultural [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► inbreeding where there's nobody that's [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► intervening to say you know what it's [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► okay to be a professional waiter [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► no i didn't i say server i did not say [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► waitron that John not brought us the [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► states that place you remember he [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► brought us he brought his friend on a [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► plate with giant nights he said he was [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► that he was a middle-aged man he was an [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► old he was older than we were and he had [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► dignity and he had it great how many [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► times well you know what we should take [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► you out of doing this but i think it's i [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► think it's more i think the epidemic is [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► worse in the sense that no one in [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► America now and buy it when I say no one [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► in America I mean none of the none of [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► the shitty overeducated west coast [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► people that we know uh huh and the [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► shitty overeducated east coast people [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► who have been imitating shitty [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► overeducated west coast people for 20 [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► none of these people can accept a thank [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► it isn't a bit isn't it it's not just a [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► problem of of of all the many different [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► problems we've we've elucidated so far [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► it is that what they have convinced [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► themselves that to be thanked in that [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► way is in itself a kind of classism or [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► its they don't want to be put on I think [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► this is behind your like thank you [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► you don't have to absolutely become [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► uncomfortable even in even being put in [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► a position of power so great as to be [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► thanked for something that you did no I [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► I a man worthy and I reject your [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► colonialism right which is why I want [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► people say thank you to me sometimes I [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► will respond with it was my pleasure [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► oh now I think that's lovely or them [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► that you know what else I like the [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► pleasure was online [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► the pleasure was all mine or just simply [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► my pleasure and if I really believe it [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and I've honestly feel this way and i [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► thought was a great opportunity say it [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► was an honor to do exactly and those are [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► things that what that does is it honors [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► the person's gratitude and and it honors [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► it by accepting that you have done [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► something for them instead of saying no [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► no no [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► hi i am on I am unworthy of your [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► gratitude I mean that is I think that's [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► but that's but this is a book ended [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► nation you think both coasts are [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► contributing this do you think this is [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► part of our evolving leftist culture he [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► said wishing he had already wishing he [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► hadn't said it [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► yes okay yes i do and i think the piano [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► at the center of america i think those [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► corn-fed truck driving centre Americans [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► if you say thank you to them they go [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► you're welcome my pleasure [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► how do you think anything else I can do [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► to help I like that I you know what I [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► gotta tell you I like civility with [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► strangers i don't like over from uranus [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► I'm on record for this pile of civility [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► among strangers and I know it's but [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► although it's so nice it's the oil that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► keeps it all running because here now to [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► your point I'm gonna take a slightly [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► different point of view on this but but [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► here's the problem is that i think the [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► same fucking reason that people don't [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► use turn signals these people should not [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► be allowed to drive if they don't use [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► turn signals turn signals do not make [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► you weak [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► well maybe in your case because you're [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► clearly doing some secret work that we [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► probably can't get into but you don't [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► want to turn your turn to sing along if [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► you feel like you're being followed no [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► no but you know it's a distraction or [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► depression energy never turn it on [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► that's it that's a rookie mistake [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► sometimes you can turn it the wrong way [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► be in the wrong lane and no way to get [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► over i got into this situation the other [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► day I was coming to to I came to an [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► intersection where no one ever uses [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► their turn signal because it's one of [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► those uh it's an intersection where the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► the arterial route makes a free left [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► right nobody goes straight there because [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► it's a dead end so it's an arterial but [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► the but it's a turn a left hand turn and [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► I'm coming to this intersection i'm at [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► this intersection every day no one ever [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► uses their terms so I arrived here and [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► there is a taxi coming at a right angle [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► to me and I just assumed he was gonna [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► make the left and pulled out in front of [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► him and he said it was a taxi that was [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► the didn't know the neighborhood that [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► was looking for an address down that [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► dead-end Road and he he was from a [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► retrail and he made some eritrea and [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► gesture with his hands and his forehead [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► and his hair just like what is wrong [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► with your brain and he like he put he [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► put his both hands in his hair and [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► pulled his [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► they're straight up in the air like your [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► brain is is like in your hair [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► I think was what I think that was mayor [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► sorghum be consumed by rats and I was so [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► like amazed by the gesture like my brain [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► is in my hair but that that that it took [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► me a second before I realized like oh I [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► completely created a traffic accident [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► there by assuming that that nobody's [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► ever going to use their turn signal here [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► and and and i was in the wrong and I [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► have to put my foot on the brake and I i [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► did a little bow to him and I was like I [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► beg your forgiveness [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► well god bless you John nice frame is in [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► my hair [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► they didn't you pick up that gesture [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► well what was amazing was it required [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► that he put his foot on the brake and [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► take both hands off the steering wheel [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► and like and give himself like a fright [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► like a like an eraser head consistent [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► some trying to do in my own two hands d [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► just put your is it like a like a [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► frustrated make eraserhead hair with [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► like you're frustrated [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► it happened so fast like his hands went [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► up to his forehead like like OMG and [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► then zip right up through his hair so [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► his hair standing straight up and then [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► if he he ended like his dismount was at [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► his hands on both sides of his head were [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► up in like up in the air like what is [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► wrong with you it's always an LMG to a [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► WTF OMG too WTF within the middle and [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► eraser like an eraser head like fro pic [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► that's a fucking great move it was a [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► great move and it was not it was not an [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► American move it was an African move and [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► it was like you sir me because he's [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► probably come to an intersection before [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► where the where there was a convoy of [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► Toyota trucks with the 50 caliber [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► machine guns and mounted in the back and [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► he probably made that same gesture and [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► they were like we spare you [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► you live you live today yes so it worked [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► again for him [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► I just think not being civil to [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► strangers does not make you powerful and [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► I is unsightly to have to say that but i [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► think a lot of people think that if [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► you're a gift to the waitress that gives [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► us a little bit of power adjustable [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► whether good or bad service i'm just [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► being addicted just to be a dick [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► this is the problem of Bellingham being [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► maryland which is that people think that [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► when you [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► say thank you and they go thank you or [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► they say know that they're actually [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► being civil when in fact they're being [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► cummins that's that's good [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► well and know and and it really is true [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► it goes for lots of things now the other [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► one and this is really probably going [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► too far now the compliments when [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► sometimes someone will pay me a [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► compliment and because of my my horrible [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► combination of arrogance and zero [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► self-esteem it i will start not [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► precisely rejecting it but I end up [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► fishing for more compliments because now [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► i'm describing why I'm unworthy of that [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► and that's something I'm trying really [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► hard to stop telling you i'm trying to [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► say i think i might have learned this [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► from violence on what they call it like [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► you say thank you very much thank you [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► yeah and they say no problem I fucking [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► hit him in the balls [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► well in those situations this is what I [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► learned from my brother Bart in those [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► situations where someone is [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► complimenting you for something for a [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► performance that you just did or [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► something that you that your instinct is [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► to say you know what actually like [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► people come up to me up right after a [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► show there like that was amazing and [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► four years my response to that was [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► actually it was a shit storm and the [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► fact that you liked it means that you [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► don't have any taste because my feeling [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► when I walk off of stages is generally [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► like I'm running down all the ways that [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► i fuck Rihanna does that I don't think [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► she does [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► yeah I and and I would you know I would [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► come off the stage and people would [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► crowd around me like that was into that [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► was the greatest show ever and I'd be [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► like actually it was in the bottom two [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► percent of all shows ever performed by [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► human being and what would happen is [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► these people would be like crestfallen [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► because not only did I not accept their [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► compliments but i but i abused them it'd [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► be easier than the matrix he said think [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► they realize you know what that actually [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► wasn't that good [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► yeah and then an hour later after i [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► processed after I've been through my my [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► my old process I realized like on that [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► show is pretty good why did I just [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► abused all those people and my brother [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► Bart was standing around after show this [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► years ago I haven't done this same sense [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► my twenties be standing around after [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► showing he heard me do that like say to [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► somebody like uh no actually that was a [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► doesn't it was basically a puddle of [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► vomit but [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► I'm glad you came paid your ticket I [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► stressful weekend Bart walked up to me [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► and he said John don't take the pleasure [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► of the show away from people [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► if you can't accept their call [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► compliment just say I'm glad you enjoyed [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► it and I was like I'm glad you enjoyed [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► I'm glad you enjoyed it and I walked [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► around for a week or two practicing that [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► I'm glad you enjoyed it and that that [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► accepts them a little bit big city but [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► you know what i mean it is a way of [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► getting if if you cannot in that moment [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► accept the compliment you can Li see [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► that's your fallback you can at least [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► say okay I'm glad you enjoyed it [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► stressing again with just a tiny bit [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► more stress on you i'm glad you [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► yeah I'm glad you enjoyed it and now [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► it's a different sentence it really is [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► but I mean if you can just if you could [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► just like put your make your face into a [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► mask and say I'm glad you enjoyed it [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► it's it gets you through that first hour [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► after a show where I want you to die [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► because you came to my show I want my [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► audience to die I want them to choke on [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► their enjoyment of my shit I can't [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► believe you people have I can't believe [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► you people saw that whole thing and [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► didn't leave [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► exactly i might be on on a slow prius [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► right to bellingham him with this one [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► but I i think where it's possible and [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► this is a little bit of civility and [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► this may be getting a little little too [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► far but I i think if it's at all [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► possible to pay repay kindness with [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► another kindness then that's not bad so [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► in that situation I think another one [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► might be [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► hey thanks and thanks for coming to the [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► show yeah but that's not my style know [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that feels a little bit like that feels [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► a little bit like a pet like a pat on [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► the ass [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► hey thanks i think i think it goes [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► beyond the improv thing I thinking when [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► we're in conversations with people i [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► think we should always try and do more [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► than fifty percent not of the talking [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► necessarily but of the of the propelling [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► the conversation and you have used to [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► okay yeah i mean it's like any kind of [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► communication and kind of a job any kind [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► of thing you do if you want it to be [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► good you should be [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► however many and people are involved you [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► should be dedicated to doing much more [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► than one end of the work whether using [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► on a party or whatever [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► although when somebody once I've seen [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► this happen with you when somebody says [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► something that sticks in your craw you [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► roll up the drawbridge what like what [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► you would mean you don't get micro [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► doesn't get stuck very often but [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► sometimes somebody will say something [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► where you're like oh really and then [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► then you go into that mode of like 100 [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► percent of the conversation is on you [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► oh oh no John this is this is my watch [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► you and watch you squirm on the end of [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► the balloon maybe Batman but i am very [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► good thing Robin I can do my own versus [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► somebody needs to be corrected [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I just want to get clear to our [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► listeners John helps it way more people [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► than me but i have i have helped the [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► fuck out of a lot of people who needed [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► it i believe it often by showing them a [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► slightly lower pay that they might be [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► more comfortable with often often by [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► stripping away the niceties our frat [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► party [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► I think you have you met almost now I [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► understand you have to understand that i [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► like i like civility I like people being [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► nice to each other and I can even put up [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► with a certain amount of bullshit [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► yes I know you can but but i will not be [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► trifled with [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► and I will be honest when it comes to [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► certain matters i will not be trifled [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► with this usually happens when somebody [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► thinks I've seen this happen a young man [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► you talked about in the hotel lobby [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► how ya young man who feels that he is [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► very less favorable is at your level and [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► he he hears you [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► you know here's you suggesting he wants [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► to be a part of it and he thinks the way [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► in is to insult you immediately as a [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► kind of like I'm here I'm here to get [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► you to freebies I can play the two [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► freebies no problem right [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► and the third one the third one the [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► third you only get two gloves buddy when [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► those are gone [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► you better put up those skinny little [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► Ivy league-educated 15 years [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► yeah no no it's a you know what it is [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► though it really is something where I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► feel like I've learned a lot from you [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► I've learned that some things not only [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► should not but must not be suffered I [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► mean I do know what you mean exactly and [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► and i think this is this is the problem [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► with the societies of ours is that that [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► it's ok it's ok to do certain kinds of [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► passive-aggressive things [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► and then like I'm supposed to sit there [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► and go oh that's that's normal when [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► clearly you're trying to Telegraph [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► something completely different that in [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► like this in the secret language of [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► yours that I'm suppose your mirror [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► whoever is supposed to go on oh yeah [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► that's that's cool man you know and that [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► will not stand it should not stand this [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► is what we owe this kind of say we owe [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► this young people young people are such [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► a fucking mess today John I really are [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► and I mean that you know my sense is [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► that they would be less of a mess of [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► people would help them the thing about [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► you and and I Berlin no problem up [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► it's all good it is a trait that was [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► thinking about you and I let that not be [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► the mean for the show [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► stop it now that's never gonna happen [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► it's never gave me a shirt i don't know [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► you're bigger and they're making fans [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► are right now those and some rubber [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► gloves that's a minute up and my clothes [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► and say here's your future because [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► you're not saying your scone [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► thank you date rape is that we are [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► willing in a hotel lobby or or somewhere [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► else in public in a casual encounter [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► let's say in a casual encounter with a [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► he was even with a stranger [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► we are willing to talk about to talk [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► about what's behind the curtain we are [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► willing to talk about real things in in [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► short-term encounters write a lot of [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► people keep their short-term encounters [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► so greased with you know with seven [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► layers of hot butter just because they [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► want to get out of there a lot of its [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► status butter if there's a lot of status [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► butter they just want to they want to [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► stay want to they want to get out of [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► there with their with like their [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► feelings their dignity intact or what [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► little dignity they have intact who and [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► they're not ever willing to certainly [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► not willing to engage a stranger in a [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► discussion about what what's behind the [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► curtain and so that's where you get all [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► this that's why there's just tracks of [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► hot butter everywhere we go in the city [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► because people are just slathered with [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► like what they consider to be social [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► lubricant who and what it means is that [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► no one is saying anything and they're [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► just trying to get home so they can [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► masturbate in front of the TV [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► god bless you that but that's misplaced [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► butter [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► it's a that it's a lot of wasted butter [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► and you and I will have and I've seen it [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► I've seen you do it a million times and [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► I do it also every day we will stop we [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► will stop what we're doing in the middle [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► of a casual encounter and we will say [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► something about what is hat what is [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► really happening in that moment and if [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► you smell the smell BS bestest burning [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► as these people try and change gears at [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► and you see the looks of this the the [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► looks of like electroshock on their face [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► because they just slid their own status [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► butter because they're butter is there [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► butter is useless in this instance you [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► know they're here they're literally [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► hitting them with their own butter pear [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► butter has a counter to a spinning saw [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► blade and it and you and I aren't trying [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► to do anything except say what's [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► happening like okay you're here I'm here [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► here's what's happening [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► well yeah well yeah but there's like two [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► important parts to that apart from the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► societal assistance which is that you [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► know your yes there is something else [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► going on here and you're not winning at [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► this and now we're still friend you are [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► about to clearly in front of lots of [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► people lose it this because you can't [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► you do that kid I used to do exactly [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► what you're trying to do right now I [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► used to be better at it but now i'm [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► really good at showing people what [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► they're doing [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► never never see I think I've mentioned [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► this before but well I think one of my [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► all-time favorite movie scenes is in the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► Jose Ferrer version of cyrano de [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► bergerac is right with the movie at all [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► i'm i'm familiar with the book [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► ok well there's a wonderful scene in the [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► Jose for it's just fantastic in this [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► movie is a great scene at that I think [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► towards the very very beginning [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► yeah this is where this is where Steve [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► Martin meet Holly Hunter its inmates in [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that movie to ask you to Martin is [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► flying like a like he's a he's a he's a [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► pilot that it puts out forest fires and [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► he crashes me sleepless in seattle and [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► then he's like he's a ghost but but then [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► he has that 156 paces there any put a [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► volleyball face on it put it on I didn't [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► really watch a lot of movies in the [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► eighties but go ahead about your [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► services from I think the early fifties [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► it's black and white and I think for a [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► forward bend [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► French French right but you know so [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► basically oh well no it's it's you know [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► it's a Hollywood movie but it is [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► anyhow the party movies starring someone [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► named Jose Jose for rare you know c84 [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► rare it does he like riding a donkey and [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► wearing a sombrero [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► I think it's kind of a man of la mancha [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► de la Mancha you have actually been to [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► la mancha there's really not much going [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► on there anyway last year's investigator [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► trust okay I'm listening [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► it's like the third time this happens [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► I'm literally so angry no serious in [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► theater he's very displeased with the [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► performances basically stops the [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► performance and makes fun of this guy [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► and he's it's very funny and so this one [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► is of course dear sarah has a rather [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► prominent nose he's a smart guy cirno is [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► very smart and he's the best sword [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► swordsman in France and across from [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► across the room this dandy says that [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► oh he this this man here you know he's [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► very arrogant he doesn't have any [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► ribbons and better it up and so he walks [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► with this guy walks over to see her no [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► and he says your nose is rather large [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► and she turns to me and goes my nose is [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► rather large and a long story short as [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► hero says basically says well enlighten [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► leicestershire i'm about to kick your [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► ass want to copy i'm gonna close up a [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► lot while I kick your ass about all the [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► ways you could have insulted me better [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► and these right moment give you a moment [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► to get my rhymes and then he he kicks [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► the guy's ass and chosen although all [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the different ways you could have done [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► it better and i rarely think about the [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► scene from that movie until the asbestos [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► starts burning in the butter starts [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► melting [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► yeah and anyway I you know I think we [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► all know that was a great recap of that [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► scene who are alive if I made fanart [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► yeah i would make some fanart about that [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► story remember when steve martin would [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► have the arrow through his head but it [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► was funny man [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► yes that is the deal small details okay [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► are you always finding great articles on [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► the web you love to read but just don't [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► have the time [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► instapaper saves webpages for reading [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► later for ipad iphone android kindle you [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► can read when you're waiting on line [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► riding the bus eating breakfast or lying [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► in bed you can even read offline great [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► for when you're on a plane or the subway [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► and don't have an internet connection [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► pages are shown without clutter or [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► distractions you can adjust the [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► text to a comfortable size and fun and [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► much more read more and read better by [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► reading later with instapaper get it now [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► instapaper com or search for instapaper [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► in the app store [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► hey wait a minute we should always [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► should have been talking about Hitler [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► this whole time I didn't want to say [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► anything but this isn't a little later [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► yeah I see the thing I don't go into [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► inside baseball here but I couldn't [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► decide me how you know what this could [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► be a work session for us maybe this is a [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► chance to just toss some ideas around [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► okay all right now I do you think they [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► should really be its own separate [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► property with this be a regular featured [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► for listeners who who haven't been with [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► this place to go back and listen to the [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► previous 30-something episodes [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yeah what are you doing while you're [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► listening to this episode to start at [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the beginning so coming in at the end of [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► a movie [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► you can't possibly understand what we're [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► talking about yeah unless you go back to [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► the original episode where you didn't [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► understand what you're talking about and [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► listen to 39 episodes where it's not [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► really clear what we're talking about [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► absolutely the shame of it is you come [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► in here a little bit talking about [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► Hitler and the punch line that goes date [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► rape and that's gonna sound really [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► insensitive Uncle Remus jokes [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► oh my god that sounds so racist until [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► you go back well I made it I made a joke [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► about racism the other day here [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► yesterday and and the people that were [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► on the other where the butt of the joke [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► didn't appreciate being called racists [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► in jest [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► oh really yeah and I was like hey Reb [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► calling you racists is funny and they [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► were like I don't we don't see how [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► that's funny I was like oh well you're [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► not very involved it's typical for your [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► type [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► it really is for your type of people [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► that's right yes well I was not a very [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► clean [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► um I feel like we'll see my instinct is [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► that we should have a completely [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► separate podcast that we do once a week [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► we're always talking about Hitler but [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► you're feeling like you're feeling like [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► if we if we have a whole separate [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► podcast but that's gonna that's gonna [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► split our listenership and all the [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► people who just want to hear about [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► Hitler are going to listen to that and [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► they're gonna stop listening to our main [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► podcast where we help people possibly [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► that is that is certainly one angle it [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► so what we in business development of [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► cannibalization and and and and I feel [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► like I want to grow the property more [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► great property thank you know I i think [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► it's i think it could be perfectly good [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► i gotta tell you just [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► just went through my head theme music [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► with tubas oh that's nice for you know [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► you know we could do a what [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► normally when you call and you say our i [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► say hello and you say hi John and then I [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► go hi Marla no don't say please don't [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► say please [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► what if i said no secret I'll not West [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► Sieg what does that mean big Sputnik the [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► different therapies blood missile f-111 [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► what is see that's a good question Sieg [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► means the keyboard [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► everything's well it's a river to river [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► it ran north rhine-westphalia let's see [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► see how okay i think i misspelled it [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► translate from siu g OC I did the [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► classic andrew has eif4e except when [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► you're invading Poland the victorious [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► healing that doesn't sound right [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► sync I'll you know I bet you know they [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► got those laws they got a lot of laws in [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► Germany about about talking to Stacy [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► kyle is all kinds of stuff you can't do [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► well now i know i know at the far end of [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► the continuum not allowed to like we're [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► swastikas I don't think you'll have to [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► sell swastika is you're probably not [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► allowed to collect swastika you're not [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► you're not allowed to have a website [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► that talks about collecting swastikas [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► food i think that feels a little bit [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► like a red herring [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► well it is it's the it's the old thing [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► amiss that we have this happens in [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► America all the time which is the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► assumption that racists and bigots are [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► as hung up on language and words as [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► liberal intellectuals who so liberal [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► intellectuals think that if they can [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► erase the word they will erase the [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► bigotry but bigots and racists really [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► aren't they don't care about words so [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► much bigots and racists if you if you [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► say you can no longer say the word [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► nigger who gets will they will happily [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► say the word urban instead it will raise [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► their eyebrows and smirk and they'll say [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► it's an urban problem might not have [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► don't imagine for a minute that they're [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► not mentally transliterating that was it [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► forward oh absolutely and they they know [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► that all their friends know exactly what [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► they're saying but they have people [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► identified it so that it's now shows [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► socially acceptable and they can say the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► exact same racist crap crap crap you [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► know clapper clap clap they can say the [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► exact same stuff on television and it's [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► and it's acceptable now it's it is just [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► as racist at its core but they've [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► changed the word and you know and the [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► Liberals pat themselves on the back and [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► say well we're making a real difference [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► here and it's and you know and there is [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► nothing more there's nothing more [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► liberal than modern Germany there really [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► isn't especially in terms of like what [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► you get like vacation time and there's [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► all kinds of ways [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► i'm sorry mr. clean politics but also in [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► pop policy about things like economics [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► right i mean in time I mean mentally [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► intellectually germany is a modern [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► liberal democracy and they do all this [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► type of they do all this type of over [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► thinking of stuff but nationalism has [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► not gone away ingredients in it like [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► exploding in Greece right now it's [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► exploding all over Europe because [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► nationalism is what happens when people [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► feel like when when when stupid people [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► don't understand what's happening [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► anymore if nationalism is what is the [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► result of it when people that don't read [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► books feel like people that are reading [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► books are are stepping on their their [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► necks you get nationalism also with [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► farmers well yeah and immigrants now [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► you've been you've been to Germany more [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► than once right [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► I've been to Germany 100 million times [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► um I'm curious about how that works in [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► practice because I had a I had a rebound [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► girl friend who was German she's very [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► young she's brilliant Germans she's 20 [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► and six feet tall [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► yeah they feel very strongly about [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► things in the Germans to well I e [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► sitting there bars and they will spilled [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► beer on you and tell you all the reasons [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► in America is stupid [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► well here's the thing now she was from [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► very far as she was from a place called [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► pass out which was looking right at it [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► was like it was like in stripes i think [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► when they were all the tanks when [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► everybody was right the tank i think the [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► hobby [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► nice i mean it was basically [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► Czechoslovakia more than mr. but she was [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► too young to remember before the war [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► well here's the thing I remember I mean [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► before the wall [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► I know now I mean that should keep them [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► alive for that this is like a you know [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► over a decade ago [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► OIC this is back in the day you know I [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► didn't have been waiting for 15 years [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► but I'm starting out about the arm but [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► the thing about the thing about this was [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► though is it [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► I don't think I went super crazy with [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► the other stuff but but when you're when [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► you're a provocative man in his thirties [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► with the 20-year old german girl its get [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► was going to come up of course and she [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► cry oh she would cry so two things about [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► her she refused to tip for anything [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► because she was German right when she [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► was super duper sensitive about even [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► getting anywhere near world war two in [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► general you know what I mean it's like [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► it really is like that Fawlty Towers [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► thing you know what don't mention the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► war it was it was absolutely like that [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► and she would she would burst into tears [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► and and talk about like you know people [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► understanding like what a sensitive [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► issue that was on that's obviously and [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► rehearsing specifically I wasn't there [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► it's not my fault which I get right but [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► you know still it's very embarrassing [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► but you know is it like that I guess [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► what I'm asking you is it was at your [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► impression when you were there you don't [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► you just walk around and ask questions [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► like like you know what your crap on the [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► SS or something like that [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► sure you do I you you or lots of people [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► I i don't know if it's part of like [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► other people's tourist experience i'm [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► not sure if it's one of those tour buses [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► pulls up into the square and in the [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► guide sent to the front of the bus and [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► says okay everybody we're here and now [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► we're here and pass out now as you walk [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► around make sure you ask if anybody's [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► uncle was in the SS this struggle is a [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► great is it true that the gauges had to [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► wear shoe triangles my dick and yellow [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► and black ones were troublemakers is [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► that right i love talking about world [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► war two and the advantages to know what [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► I said you know about all this you can [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► get a bar if you're a troublemaker you [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► know that course of course I knew that [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► this team talking to modern Germans [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► about world war two and Hitler is a [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► fascinating exercise because everybody [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► there has a different feeling about it [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► and everybody has a different family [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► history [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► you know it's it is a nation that at [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► least for the last 50 years has been [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► processing that experience every day [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► every person in that country is [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► processing that experience every day [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► even the ones who are like it's not my [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► fault i don't want to think about it [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► they are processing it every day and [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► each interaction that happens in germany [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► between two Germans it's it's there in [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► the room with them are you kidding [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► not at all so it's a city like anything [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► at least once a day it goes to [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► somebody's mine [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► absolutely so that's a lot you walk [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► around with when you bring it up with [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► people there you are acknowledging the [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► 800-pound gorilla in the room and a lot [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► of people are relieved because it [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► relieves the pressure to be able to talk [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► about it and you know of course everyone [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► has a different experience of women and [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► there are young people who feel like [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► they're that that everyone in Germany is [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► complicit in it and there are a lot of [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► people the prevailing wisdom is that you [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► know we have a toned and it's a it's [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► very complicated you know that after the [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► war I mean I walked across Germany right [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► i spent on the course I spent two months [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► walking through fields and going under [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► little stone bridges and back in there [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► for the in there deep forests and [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► everywhere I was I was looking for that [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► that one swastika that someone had not [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► shipped off of a bridge abutment because [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► when the Nazis were building things they [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► built a lot of things and they put [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► swastika is all over everything and [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► after the war they have gone through [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► every inch of that country and chipped [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► every little spastic off of every little [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► concrete culvert so that their isn't [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► they have erased it completely there is [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► no you will not find [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► a little swastika in the corner [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► somewhere in there any Mason's that had [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► to undo their own work interesting or [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► like seventh level mages somebody but I [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► wonder I mean it you're right it was it [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► was like FDR to the hundred level there [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► was a lot of work to be done in a lot of [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► lot of bridges and a lot of what is [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► precisions the recent understand this [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► and who put those on probably had to [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► take it off [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► well I don't know a lot of people to put [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► them on probably are dead or were dead [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► after the war but how can there be ready [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► lad ok they were literally low on dudes [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► let's say at the end of that war flow-on [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► blowin on marriageable men but every [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► addict in every home in the country has [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► a picture of great-great-grandfather in [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► his vermox outfit at the very least and [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► I did find one time [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► stop me if I've told you the story [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► before but I i was in a little i was up [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► in the mountains in a little town called [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► garment well it's not a little town it's [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► actually pretty big town [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► garmisch-partenkirchen this is this is [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► not the the hunting tuba festival this [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► is not the hunting two battalions it [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► down in this is down in Bavaria ok I was [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► up in the mountains and I was you know [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► where hikers the Germans and [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► particularly in the Alps I'm hiking [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► around its it's in the it's in the Alps [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► and I find a little chapel and it's not [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► a it's not a chapel where where [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► religious services are the Germans have [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► all these little these little chapels in [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► the forest because in fact they never [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► fully abandoned paganism like determines [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► have have adopted Christianity and it [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► was one of the hotbeds of Christianity [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► in the early years but really they're [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► still a pagan people and they go out [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► into the forest and they worship berries [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► and they worship squirrels and they [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► worship leaves and dirt they cover [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► themselves with pear juice have sex and [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► child's no idea how much it's it's [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► so they have little chapels everywhere [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► you go you're walking out in the forest [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► and you're like I've no one has ever [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► been here I'm deep in the forest again [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► that drew it kind of thing [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► yes there will be little and their their [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► christian right there's a jesus in them [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► there's a there's across and there's [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► Jesus but the jesus is draped in pine [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► boughs that someone has recently cut [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► some forest hunter has come and draped [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► the Jesus with pine boughs and made [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► flower garlands that are that they drape [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► around the Jesus in a very very pagan [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► kind of naturalistic offering to the to [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► the forest Christ it's a it's a very [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► strange thing out there in the woods of [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► Germany let me tell you but I found one [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► of these forests chapels up on the side [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► of the mountain and on the back wall of [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► it there were pictures of all of the all [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► of the men from the neighboring town [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► that had been killed in the war and they [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► were all in there in their uniforms and [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► they were to stop Oh guys up there and [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► there were SS guys up there and there [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► were just a lot of work vermox normal [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► guys but they all these pictures on the [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► back of this Chapel that you wouldn't [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► have been able to see it unless you went [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► around and you know kind of like push [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► your way through the woods whatever here [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► was this shrine to the men of the town [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► and they all have their flowers draped [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► all over these photographs and they were [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► there was obviously tended by people [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► from the village that was the only [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► instance that I ever saw of like a [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► public acknowledgement and it by public [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► I mean perch on the side of a cliff [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► somewhere but still outside of someone's [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► home [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► let's get this kind of this temple or or [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► or mausoleum to these guys these Nazi [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► guys [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► and instead look for saying for some [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► reason I'm thinking about the [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► slaughterhouse five and you know Billy [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► Billy uh Billy Pilgrim is getting you [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► know picked up at the end of the war and [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► one of that one of the guys I guess it's [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► like what 44 [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► yeah I guess 4445 anyway out one of the [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► guys whatever it takes one of the guys [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► is a very old man in the mopping up [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► party and the other one is like a flick [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► of fourteen fifteen-year-old kid or [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► I mean it got that bad right after after [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► 44 8 10 12 pages of like 16 and fifty no [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► one left [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► that's astounding and so you know I said [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► I mean like the way this is where we [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► really need a separate so for this but I [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► mean you know per capita their their [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► losses where we r greater than ours in [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► terms of losses in in combat you know [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► one of the funny things about the story [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► of world war two that that it's is it [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► never gets told is that after the war of [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► course there were Germans before the war [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► there were Germans living all through [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► what we think of as Poland Czech [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► Republic Slovakia Hungary Romania there [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► were massive German populations in all [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► of Eastern Europe that were historical [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► population that had some of them had [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► been living some of those areas were [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► historically German for 900 years I [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► Germans had been living there as the [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► resident population surrounded by Slavs [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► but it was a German part of Poland read [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► it wasn't called Poland then it was you [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► know pressure or the Germans colonized [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► all of Eastern Europe and after the war [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► all those countries doesn't you know [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► newly reconstituted countries they [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► wanted the Germans out and it didn't [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► matter if they if those German families [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► have been living in that part of hungry [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► for 900 years they wanted the Germans [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► out and so there was a massive exodus [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► forced exodus of Germans from all of [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► Eastern Europe where they were marched [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► back to Germany a place where they had [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► never lived place you're talking you're [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► not interrupt you but you eat we are not [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► talking about the people who are quietly [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► relieved [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► that that Germany was going to make [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► their place more dramatically you're [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► talking about like a force like what a [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► Stalinist I like relocation like we've [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► got to go back we're being forcibly [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► repatriated the southeasterly [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► repatriated back to Germany a place [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► where you have never lived an [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► accelerating rate their parents never [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► yeah you've been living in Hungary [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► albeit speaking German but living in [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► hungry for you know your family has been [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► here since that is really ambitious seen [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► hundred and you are out now you are gone [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► and they marched what ended up being [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► like a million people uh villagers [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► basically like march them back to [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► Germany and they all arrived in Germany [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► which was completely bombed out [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► resourceless smoking hole of like war [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► rubble and then office and all these [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► other people showed up who had never [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► lived a day of their lives in germany [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► and they're like well hi purple we're [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► here to you got room got room at the [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► bombed-out in for us and our and my six [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► kids whatever it was a it was it's a [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► thing that it's part of the world war [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► two stories doesn't get old because all [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► the people that got hurt in that war [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► like the some little like burgermeister [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► from Hungary that had to walk back to [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► Germany is like it's pretty small [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► potatoes considering what else was [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► happening in 1946 and but in fact [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► there's like a million people being [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► forced marched back to a country that [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► they've never that they never lived in [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► its it's one of the like untold stories [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► what do you know about down i think we [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► might miss this for what you know about [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► the but what they now call it you know [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► the fillmore Western dish in japantown [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► what do you know about the relocations [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► in San Francisco [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► yeah you know about that no I mean and [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► this is something i should probably bone [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► up on for the official Hitler and stuff [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► but there used to be a you know a large [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► Japanese population ocean in japantown [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► and but but also you know moving into [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► what has become to call you know the [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► western addition which is really kind of [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► the westernmost part as its name implies [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► of San Francisco for a long time right [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► and but the way I understand it is that [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► at the time they started [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► the what's called the interment like you [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► know a lot of people get sent to like [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► fucking Arizona you know they were sent [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► to these really far away places on the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► middle of nowhere angel island out in [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► the middle of San Francisco Bay is where [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► like a whole bunch of japanese people [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► had to go and live for several years [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► they lived there where they were there [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► as a part of a relocation where they [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► eventually were sent airzone actually [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► lived on angel island [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► I believe that's the case I think [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► there's am there's like a visitor center [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► there's like a whole historic thing out [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► there ya go google it [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► um but yeah pretty bad news but the [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► story goes that a lot of their homes [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► were basically they were sent to angel [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► island and in their homes were placed a [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► lot of people who are going to work in [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► the factories which has it happened [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► where a lot of african-american people [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► so they pushed out a hostage ethics [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► people gave their homes over to the i'm [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► sorry i'm using the term I don't like to [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► eat in the black Negro people and and [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► they worked in the the shipyards and all [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► that and then after those jobs went away [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► it kind of turned into a slum because [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► those jobs weren't there anymore and it [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► was like the Japanese people got to come [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► back and claim their house again right [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► it's just it's it's pretty amazing the [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► kind of shit that goes on in a war and [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► depending on who won and who gets to put [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► up the plaques you notice that you never [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► find out about to start entering the [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► Civil War certainly during the Civil War [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► that's absolutely just true as well [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► well as my as my high school AP history [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► teacher said some families are still [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► fighting the Civil War [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► yeah he was an idiot yeah the japantown [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► in seattle was similarly decimated and [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► then after the war they it had it also [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► become kind of a shantytown and they [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► tore it down to build one of the very [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► first public housing projects in America [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► on the site of Seattle's you know like [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► historic hundred-year-old japantown and [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► the Japanese of the of the Pacific [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► Northwest did return to the city but [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► they didn't want to live in japan town [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► anymore and they moved out to the [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► suburbs [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► so anyway that became a public housing [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► project called a Rainier Vista and then [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► when they were building the freeway [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► course they plowed the freeway right [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► through there because that was nobody [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► was gonna fight for that and so what [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► used to be japantown is now basically [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► just spits just a sinkhole where where [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► the freeway runs hardy pretty sad story [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► my dad you know my dad of course grew up [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► in Seattle and she all of many of his [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► friends in the thirties were Japanese [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► and I I used one with my dad when we had [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► a funeral for my dad here in Seattle it [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► was in a up the up the lobby of a big [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► hotel and I published a obituary for him [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► in the newspaper because I knew that a [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► lot of these guys were out there that [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► there wasn't anywhere any other way to [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► reach him but like but I put a big [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► obituary in the paper and they the [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► newspaper wrote an article about him and [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► so were at his funeral service and all [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► these little old dudes start walking in [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► these little 88-year old Japanese guys [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► that are and they're all about four foot [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► eleven and I'm walking around I'm like [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► Hello you know I'm John Roderick i'm [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► david Roderick's kid and these guys are [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► like oh god your dad was such a good [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► basketball player that and my dad would [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► tell the stories where he went to [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► Broadway high school in Seattle which is [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► since been turned into a community [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► college but he said Broadway high school [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► was undefeated in basketball because we [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► had all the Japanese students and the [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► Japanese were the absolute best [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► basketball players in the city and my [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► educating me most of my dad's closest [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► friends were either Jews or Japanese [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► this is before the war and so when when [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► the Pearl Harbor was bombed [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► dad used to tell the story he went down [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► to japan town to visit a friend of his [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► and he showed up at the house and they [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► were being forced to sell all of their [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► stuff have I told you this story know [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► and my dad sits in the living room and [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► his friends mom is standing in the [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► doorway and a and a 0 a white guy cums [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► you know in a fedora and walk through [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► the house like he owns the place and he [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► says I'll give you five dollars for the [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► refrigerator and his friends mommys like [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► it's a brand new refrigerator you know [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► it cost sixty dollars or something that [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► guys like well today is worth five bucks [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► and they were like okay five bucks five [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► and this guy gonna walk to their house [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► and he buys all their stuff all their [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► furniture and their new appliances and [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► just as paying them like insulting money [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► that is kind of insulting about it and [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► my dad is 19 years old and sitting there [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► in his basketball shoes just furious [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► just wanted to punch this guy in the [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► face but the his friends and their [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► family was they were being like put on a [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► train and sent out to central California [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► where they were going to live in a camp [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► for the rest of the war and my dad went [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► down and enlisted in the Navy and was [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► sent to fight the Japanese and hit [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► throughout the whole war he's having [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► this very common and something that's [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► what I think specific to the Pacific [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► coast this [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► coast this [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► you know these guys who grew up with [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► Japanese in there the Nisei were there [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► where tightest bros and they did not [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► they did not have that same feeling that [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► I think a lot of Americans have that the [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► Japanese were dehumanized or we're like [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► this alien Thorin people my dad was like [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► my friends sister but these are my guys [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► these guys are great basketball players [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► I mean they're not tall guys but I [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► really you know they take it to the net [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► so the rest of his life it anyway [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► sitting in his funeral and watching all [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► these little guys come in and like stand [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► around and especially given this it had [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► you known about this basketball stuff [TS]