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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 43: "Waiting for Our Duck"

 

00:00:00   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07   hi Merlin are you remove them [TS]

00:00:11   you know i worry about you and I worry [TS]

00:00:18   about the Freddie Mercury estate coming [TS]

00:00:19   after me [TS]

00:00:20   yeah i understand that it's really [TS]

00:00:22   powerful lawyers [TS]

00:00:23   mhm you know yeah sometimes the the [TS]

00:00:27   family can be pretty tightly wound about [TS]

00:00:30   the intellectual property of dead people [TS]

00:00:32   you know this right we talk about the [TS]

00:00:33   family of a dead creative person who is [TS]

00:00:36   now living off of the creative person's [TS]

00:00:39   creative works out of the dead and all [TS]

00:00:42   the fat of the bed I can get to the [TS]

00:00:46   elvis presley family God love them they [TS]

00:00:48   all license his name and likeness to be [TS]

00:00:51   on pretty much everything that's one by [TS]

00:00:54   one that really gets me is a voice guys [TS]

00:00:56   such a cocksucker james joyce's grandson [TS]

00:00:58   you know about him i have heard about [TS]

00:01:00   the the difficulty in dealing with james [TS]

00:01:02   joyce's grandson [TS]

00:01:03   it's one thing to be a businessman and [TS]

00:01:05   it's another thing to deliberately be a [TS]

00:01:07   dick [TS]

00:01:08   women are you implying that you have [TS]

00:01:10   tried to license or creative leak use [TS]

00:01:13   the works of james joyce and have been [TS]

00:01:15   thwarted by his grandson [TS]

00:01:16   yeah I had a whole hip-hop opera or as i [TS]

00:01:18   like to call it a hip hopera he called [TS]

00:01:21   MC Ulysses i guess i'm not sure haha [TS]

00:01:24   yeah and then they say they put the [TS]

00:01:27   kibosh on it we who [TS]

00:01:29   oh my god yeah that's just not right you [TS]

00:01:31   know a person should be able to [TS]

00:01:33   reincorporate another artist's work in a [TS]

00:01:36   in an additional work and not have to [TS]

00:01:39   deal with a bunch of upset grandsons [TS]

00:01:41   yeah I'm sorry for that murder yeah well [TS]

00:01:44   you know I mean like thank you very much [TS]

00:01:46   but you know there's the whole thing I [TS]

00:01:47   don't get into copyright and stuck his [TS]

00:01:48   boy that's so boring [TS]

00:01:50   well I mean it can be pointing like [TS]

00:01:51   there's the whole thing that appears to [TS]

00:01:53   be true which is that the disney [TS]

00:01:54   corporation right about the time Mickey [TS]

00:01:57   Mouse is about to run out they find some [TS]

00:01:59   way to extend copyright and whatever [TS]

00:02:01   they're made out of filthy lucre sure [TS]

00:02:02   but you know James Joyce come on that's [TS]

00:02:05   that's pretty there's a pretty old books [TS]

00:02:07   yeah I knew who is it even ever heard of [TS]

00:02:09   him yeah right let alone read it [TS]

00:02:12   he's not like Mickey Mouse yeah [TS]

00:02:14   you know Mickey Mouse like that's like [TS]

00:02:15   the American flag [TS]

00:02:17   you know I started Steamboat Willie [TS]

00:02:19   probably five times and never made it [TS]

00:02:21   past the first chapter [TS]

00:02:24   well the problem is there are so many [TS]

00:02:25   biblical references if you haven't read [TS]

00:02:27   the Bible all the way through [TS]

00:02:29   yeah you're not going to get a lot of [TS]

00:02:30   the lot of the subtext of Steamboat [TS]

00:02:32   Willie especially the non-canonical [TS]

00:02:34   Gospels you got you got a saint a saint [TS]

00:02:38   Jackie you got the same day same really [TS]

00:02:41   obviously yeah you know I'm still [TS]

00:02:43   catching up by the reason I'm late as I [TS]

00:02:44   had to make coffee so i'm still kind of [TS]

00:02:46   waking up a little bit yeah well i'm a [TS]

00:02:48   i-i-i I understand that a lot of people [TS]

00:02:51   assume that I am doing this podcast [TS]

00:02:54   mostly nude most of the time I didn't [TS]

00:02:57   until now but uh but today it's actually [TS]

00:03:00   true i'm completely naked [TS]

00:03:02   oh god and i would like to be known as [TS]

00:03:05   Steamboat Willie for the rest of the [TS]

00:03:06   part not a problem with Lee I think now [TS]

00:03:14   here's the thing about disney that [TS]

00:03:16   that's crazy-making is how much how i [TS]

00:03:18   mean again this is every nerd on the [TS]

00:03:20   internet knows the ship backwards and [TS]

00:03:21   forwards but they get so much of their [TS]

00:03:23   stuff from like free like content from [TS]

00:03:27   the culture like they didn't write [TS]

00:03:28   snow-white they didn't right Sleeping [TS]

00:03:30   Beauty they didn't they didn't write [TS]

00:03:32   much anything right now this stuff is [TS]

00:03:34   very much a German fairy tales [TS]

00:03:36   yeah we'll take turns yeah with the [TS]

00:03:37   Germans again with the German and who [TS]

00:03:39   why i like the way we can make that [TS]

00:03:41   happen every time haha yeah never simple [TS]

00:03:44   yet all their own there we go here comes [TS]

00:03:46   god 1 i'm pretty sure [TS]

00:03:48   Steamboat Willie is a parody parody but [TS]

00:03:52   you know it's a buster keaton right [TS]

00:03:55   oh interesting when I was supposed to do [TS]

00:03:58   that [TS]

00:03:59   Steamboat Willie dance you know the one [TS]

00:04:00   where he's kinda like he's doing a [TS]

00:04:01   little bit of a bump on bom bom bom-bom [TS]

00:04:05   he's got you know the steamboat willie [TS]

00:04:08   dance from that and I think that's good [TS]

00:04:11   you're gonna have to claim that now that [TS]

00:04:12   your volleyball but for a long time all [TS]

00:04:16   they knew how to do an animation was [TS]

00:04:18   slow-moving dinosaurs nice moving the [TS]

00:04:21   hips and people whistling also flowers [TS]

00:04:22   flowers doing this kind of arm-waving [TS]

00:04:24   dancing pretty flowers doing arm [TS]

00:04:27   waving dance I'm a hundred percent [TS]

00:04:28   behind i love wish I really wish mouse [TS]

00:04:30   are really wish mice moving their hips [TS]

00:04:33   was was still a more popular mean in [TS]

00:04:35   video culture [TS]

00:04:36   I'm i can see that being big at [TS]

00:04:38   comic-con I saw last night i was [TS]

00:04:40   standing out in front of a bar I don't [TS]

00:04:43   know why I was there but there was any [TS]

00:04:47   didn't know for different reasons than [TS]

00:04:49   you would have known saved a couple [TS]

00:04:51   decades ago [TS]

00:04:52   yeah i'm standing outside of a bar it's [TS]

00:04:53   not that I don't know why I'm there [TS]

00:04:54   because I'm insensibly intoxicated [TS]

00:04:57   it's that i was writing my Vespa and I [TS]

00:04:59   saw a person that I knew and I pulled [TS]

00:05:01   over i'm talking to them and a rat comes [TS]

00:05:05   out from underneath a car that's right [TS]

00:05:07   right next to us and the street is kind [TS]

00:05:09   of you know half it's not full of people [TS]

00:05:11   but it's half full of people and the rat [TS]

00:05:13   comes out and starts a big rat and he he [TS]

00:05:16   sees that there are a bunch of people on [TS]

00:05:19   the sidewalk and he knows he needs to go [TS]

00:05:20   a different direction so he he cuts [TS]

00:05:23   across the street kind of diagonally and [TS]

00:05:26   of course we all notice this guy he's a [TS]

00:05:28   big he's a big guy and he's moving he's [TS]

00:05:31   moving fast he's doing that thing where [TS]

00:05:32   is moving so fast that is his tail is [TS]

00:05:34   kind of it's like it's like the key on a [TS]

00:05:38   windup toy its kind of spinning around [TS]

00:05:39   like groaning like a motor boat [TS]

00:05:41   propeller and heads across the street [TS]

00:05:44   and somebody comes out of a a doorway [TS]

00:05:46   and he's like Oh course direct course [TS]

00:05:49   change any changes course and runs right [TS]

00:05:51   into a this guy coming out of the next [TS]

00:05:57   door down walking his little wiener dog [TS]

00:06:01   in the middle of the night like I walks [TS]

00:06:03   out the door and the little wiener dog [TS]

00:06:04   basically steps out the door and the rat [TS]

00:06:07   runs into his mouth and the wiener dog [TS]

00:06:10   absolutely loses his mind and chases [TS]

00:06:13   this rat like into the bushes you're [TS]

00:06:16   saying he has it that hasn't been bred [TS]

00:06:18   out of him yet [TS]

00:06:19   no he's still about you still a badger [TS]

00:06:21   hound he was so excited that finally and [TS]

00:06:24   and I had this i have this picture of [TS]

00:06:26   this weiner dog living on the sky in a [TS]

00:06:29   living in a studio apartment in this [TS]

00:06:31   apartment building in the middle of [TS]

00:06:32   Seattle's Capitol Hill he probably [TS]

00:06:34   sleeps all day on a honor like a pink [TS]

00:06:37   sheepskin rug people probably feed him [TS]

00:06:40   little niblets and put and like shampoo [TS]

00:06:44   his hair this little guy and he walked [TS]

00:06:46   out in the middle of the night to go on [TS]

00:06:48   his like once around the block poop run [TS]

00:06:50   but tonight was different [TS]

00:06:53   tonight a five-pound rack ran right into [TS]

00:06:57   his like face basically and this dog [TS]

00:06:59   went into the bushes and what you know [TS]

00:07:02   everybody's cheering at this point on [TS]

00:07:03   the street like yeah and the dog goes [TS]

00:07:07   into the bushes and I was there for 45 [TS]

00:07:08   minutes I never saw the dog again the [TS]

00:07:11   dog went he thats thing in his little [TS]

00:07:13   heart his little wiener dog desire to go [TS]

00:07:16   down a hole after a rat it all came back [TS]

00:07:20   to him [TS]

00:07:21   isn't that amazing he's probably down in [TS]

00:07:23   the sewers right now you got a tasty got [TS]

00:07:25   a taste of blood his little pink ribbons [TS]

00:07:28   all covered with with red blood through [TS]

00:07:30   with rat blood and in and gross and he's [TS]

00:07:33   just down there like a monster [TS]

00:07:35   oh my god that is so cool now was he off [TS]

00:07:38   leash or just because it was one of [TS]

00:07:41   those like you know the guy the guy that [TS]

00:07:43   was taking him for a walk was kind of [TS]

00:07:44   like in his pajamas almost it was it was [TS]

00:07:47   clearly a okay i know you have to go pee [TS]

00:07:50   or let's go downstairs and there's a [TS]

00:07:53   middle of the night but it was a it was [TS]

00:07:56   a perfect storm for this little wiener [TS]

00:07:57   dog if you think about that you think [TS]

00:08:00   about that dog I mean I imagine in in [TS]

00:08:02   time [TS]

00:08:03   like most of us he gets used to his [TS]

00:08:06   environment now you've spoken at length [TS]

00:08:07   and I think you've helped a lot of [TS]

00:08:08   people with with helping them to [TS]

00:08:10   understand that there's a basic animal [TS]

00:08:12   nature in us that we are squashing or [TS]

00:08:15   allowing to be squashed down i'm telling [TS]

00:08:17   you is I think it sounds like this is [TS]

00:08:18   the dachshund version of a slightly [TS]

00:08:20   nicer supermax prison he gives to come [TS]

00:08:22   out and shoot baskets for like an hour a [TS]

00:08:24   day right [TS]

00:08:25   he's you know that you like that place [TS]

00:08:27   where they send the supercriminals yeah [TS]

00:08:29   it's a it's a healer is living a life [TS]

00:08:32   where he can do nothing but it's not [TS]

00:08:35   that bad at the same time it's like the [TS]

00:08:37   way the shield puts all the really bad [TS]

00:08:39   super villains way underground this [TS]

00:08:41   guy's limits their come out there do [TS]

00:08:42   this do the supervillains get to play [TS]

00:08:44   basketball for an hour day that depends [TS]

00:08:46   on what there's with their skills are by [TS]

00:08:47   and large they're kept in some kind of a [TS]

00:08:48   state in which their powers [TS]

00:08:50   are you know a check which is longer if [TS]

00:08:53   your power was to turn rubber balls into [TS]

00:08:55   ballistic missiles they probably [TS]

00:08:57   wouldn't let you have to play that for [TS]

00:08:59   slam-dunking because I would just be too [TS]

00:09:00   fun but in this case so if I understand [TS]

00:09:02   correctly at docs wound is is not to [TS]

00:09:05   look this up i believe that is that is [TS]

00:09:06   indeed German for Bajor hound and was [TS]

00:09:09   their job they bred them in it to be [TS]

00:09:11   this hideous little creatures that they [TS]

00:09:13   are so that their bodies could go down a [TS]

00:09:15   hole to chase the Badgers that your [TS]

00:09:17   understanding that is my understanding [TS]

00:09:18   he letting the dogs all those dogs are [TS]

00:09:21   little routers every dog with it all of [TS]

00:09:24   the dogs that people are carrying in [TS]

00:09:25   their purses now were originally [TS]

00:09:28   designed to chase rats into holes and [TS]

00:09:32   it's the craziest it's the it's the [TS]

00:09:35   craziest like psychic disconnect in our [TS]

00:09:37   culture that these these these creatures [TS]

00:09:39   that are being treated like that's [TS]

00:09:43   children are actually they're only [TS]

00:09:48   reason for existence is to grab rats by [TS]

00:09:51   the face and chew until the until the [TS]

00:09:54   rat is dead [TS]

00:09:55   there's no there's nothing cuddly about [TS]

00:09:57   these things they're monsters [TS]

00:09:59   if you think we've got an email before [TS]

00:10:01   about but and I don't even know if you [TS]

00:10:04   can find my email I don't look at it to [TS]

00:10:06   have fun if you if you can get away for [TS]

00:10:07   dog for a minute here's the thing you [TS]

00:10:11   think we've heard from heard about [TS]

00:10:12   bronies you know I think we heard about [TS]

00:10:14   bronies boy up with cum some email is [TS]

00:10:17   like walking down the street the other [TS]

00:10:19   night in an ironic t-shirt that I think [TS]

00:10:22   was not ironic he had it was a big [TS]

00:10:24   t-shirt that said brownie on it in my [TS]

00:10:25   neighborhood [TS]

00:10:27   no no I'm I my thing John by increasing [TS]

00:10:31   understanding of brownie culture is that [TS]

00:10:33   there is no there is no ironic like use [TS]

00:10:39   of brownie by spice street culture like [TS]

00:10:43   if you say if your t-shirt says brownie [TS]

00:10:45   you are a brownie you're not kidding [TS]

00:10:46   around [TS]

00:10:47   mmm i think there are even there are [TS]

00:10:50   even sarcastic juggalos I I knew a girl [TS]

00:10:54   in Wisconsin who had a juggalo tattoo eh [TS]

00:11:00   like the hatchet wielding dude which I'm [TS]

00:11:03   sure even sure he has a name badge will [TS]

00:11:06   indeed she had a juggalo tattoo and I [TS]

00:11:08   and I am I remarked upon it because it [TS]

00:11:12   was in a place that you wouldn't it's [TS]

00:11:13   not like you're gonna see it in normal [TS]

00:11:16   encounters weather was on like a steady [TS]

00:11:17   job and a place you would normally see a [TS]

00:11:22   juggalette you choose and she was like a [TS]

00:11:25   perfectly well I'm not gonna say [TS]

00:11:27   perfectly normal but she was a team and [TS]

00:11:29   she passed [TS]

00:11:30   yeah she passed and i said so and this [TS]

00:11:32   was a long time ago I was like so what's [TS]

00:11:34   the juggalo think she was like oh I [TS]

00:11:38   think those guys are so hilarious and I [TS]

00:11:40   just really I just think they're awesome [TS]

00:11:42   and i just got this because it was very [TS]

00:11:45   much a hipster ironic juggalo tension so [TS]

00:11:49   how can deepen the stacked you have to [TS]

00:11:51   be for that to make anything like sense [TS]

00:11:53   but this is the thing about tattoos and [TS]

00:11:55   I see this all the time there is a there [TS]

00:11:57   is a sub set of the rationale for [TS]

00:12:00   getting tattoos that are really just you [TS]

00:12:03   people get tattoos that are responses to [TS]

00:12:07   other tattoos or in jokes like they're [TS]

00:12:09   the tattoo clichés like the girl with [TS]

00:12:12   the dolphin jumping over a rainbow a [TS]

00:12:16   tattoo on the small of her back but then [TS]

00:12:18   there are the guys who get a who get a [TS]

00:12:21   killer whale jumping over a rainbow [TS]

00:12:25   that's eating a dolphin and it really [TS]

00:12:28   only makes sense if you understand that [TS]

00:12:29   there's a dolphin jumping over a rainbow [TS]

00:12:31   a cliché you know and that's not even [TS]

00:12:35   amusing is a shirt [TS]

00:12:36   it isn't it's not amusing at all but it [TS]

00:12:38   is a but it's a whole part of the tattoo [TS]

00:12:41   culture people show you their tattoos [TS]

00:12:43   and it's like oh and this one is like do [TS]

00:12:46   you get this one [TS]

00:12:48   I mean they're like little they're like [TS]

00:12:49   little puzzles that if you don't [TS]

00:12:50   understand what what you don't [TS]

00:12:53   understand tattoo culture then you're [TS]

00:12:54   not gonna understand this referential [TS]

00:12:57   tattoo and but but as far as brownie ism [TS]

00:13:01   goes I don't think that there i don't [TS]

00:13:03   think that there are like people living [TS]

00:13:05   in the straight world who get ironic [TS]

00:13:06   brownie tattoos because it's already so [TS]

00:13:08   confusing about like whether bronies are [TS]

00:13:12   ICS are currently [TS]

00:13:14   isn't an audience yet for brownie [TS]

00:13:16   organism [TS]

00:13:17   no although brownie is expanding by [TS]

00:13:20   leaps and bounds [TS]

00:13:21   you mean geographically or in terms of [TS]

00:13:23   the scope of their not irony i think the [TS]

00:13:26   like just culturally it is becoming a [TS]

00:13:27   thing faster than anybody can faster [TS]

00:13:29   than we can build the canopy the the [TS]

00:13:32   monitoring stations to keep tabs on all [TS]

00:13:35   these people [TS]

00:13:36   ok so in time you could move out in [TS]

00:13:38   concentric circles to a strawberry [TS]

00:13:39   shortcake origem being truly outrageous [TS]

00:13:42   i think you can but I think out as time [TS]

00:13:44   goes on we will start to see nann [TS]

00:13:46   bronies adopting brownie culture [TS]

00:13:47   unknowingly just like Liz that's exactly [TS]

00:13:51   right there will be appropriation upon [TS]

00:13:53   appropriation and then pretty soon [TS]

00:13:55   people will be using sparkle power to [TS]

00:14:00   just go about their normal day and it's [TS]

00:14:02   like do you even know what sparkle power [TS]

00:14:03   is it's derived from a thing that that [TS]

00:14:06   you know that actually means something [TS]

00:14:08   to people i was astonished when we [TS]

00:14:11   started talking about bronies initially [TS]

00:14:14   thinking that your and my jaw you you're [TS]

00:14:20   in my cultural envelope was only going [TS]

00:14:23   to include maybe one or two [TS]

00:14:25   bronies but in fact my inbox was full [TS]

00:14:29   who love letters letters from very [TS]

00:14:32   articulate and respectively seem very [TS]

00:14:34   nice who wanted to who did who had no [TS]

00:14:38   they had no truck with anything we said [TS]

00:14:40   they did not want to argue they just [TS]

00:14:42   wanted to say I am Here I am here and I [TS]

00:14:46   am listening [TS]

00:14:47   i'm here i'm brony get used to it that's [TS]

00:14:49   right but Bentley and please get used to [TS]

00:14:51   it but but did you know or or don't but [TS]

00:14:54   we're gonna have a work we're all gonna [TS]

00:14:55   meet up at the convenience and later I [TS]

00:14:57   get okay I got you I got two things i [TS]

00:14:59   want to do this first of all I need a [TS]

00:15:01   better song to sing you at the beginning [TS]

00:15:03   yeah and number two I need to do a deep [TS]

00:15:05   dive on brownies you see meheux you seem [TS]

00:15:08   a little tired today no no I'm fine I'm [TS]

00:15:10   subdued I'm trying to be calmer I like [TS]

00:15:13   that I oh I mean just because it's not [TS]

00:15:17   that I like you calmer it's that I like [TS]

00:15:19   any attempt that a person makes to try [TS]

00:15:22   different thing [TS]

00:15:23   it's not strictly self-improvement it's [TS]

00:15:25   just a matter of mixing up you wear a [TS]

00:15:26   different hat [TS]

00:15:27   exactly today today I wake up I have a [TS]

00:15:30   pink bow in my hair tomorrow I'm going [TS]

00:15:31   down a whole chasing rats [TS]

00:15:33   that's how life is most of the [TS]

00:15:35   incontinent dogs I've known have been [TS]

00:15:37   dachshunds don't know that's an [TS]

00:15:39   availability heuristic or you know the [TS]

00:15:42   the attribution error or the category [TS]

00:15:44   error but you know it seems like most of [TS]

00:15:46   the incontinent dogs i think i think for [TS]

00:15:48   one thing dogs that live longer small [TS]

00:15:51   dogs i believe tend to live longer than [TS]

00:15:54   large dogs turns out i believe that that [TS]

00:15:56   is the case it so hard to have less work [TS]

00:15:57   to maybe but also the breeding you get [TS]

00:16:00   the bigger dogs they start getting the [TS]

00:16:02   hip dysplasia and right not a little [TS]

00:16:04   dogs you think they bred their bladders [TS]

00:16:06   to be too small maybe maybe that was [TS]

00:16:09   important that could be an adaptation [TS]

00:16:10   but you know here's the thing i mean you [TS]

00:16:12   like you see the kind of work that they [TS]

00:16:13   do you think about the hideous freak [TS]

00:16:15   dogs and this is what i say this is [TS]

00:16:16   where the emails going to start pouring [TS]

00:16:17   in [TS]

00:16:17   because you don't want to talk about pit [TS]

00:16:19   bulls because people who have pit bulls [TS]

00:16:21   are sensitive about pit bulls are nice [TS]

00:16:24   people then I'm just saying like if you [TS]

00:16:27   breathe one of these dogs were massive [TS]

00:16:29   housing missed mask if not going to have [TS]

00:16:31   hip dysplasia [TS]

00:16:32   yeah right like you're trying to you're [TS]

00:16:35   trying to make make a line out of a [TS]

00:16:36   boxer [TS]

00:16:37   it's weird i know i think i'm a stiff is [TS]

00:16:40   your senses that was not a grandmaster [TS]

00:16:41   if you ever seen like a big Mastiff have [TS]

00:16:43   I have chased me across so many bedrooms [TS]

00:16:47   but you know one thing they can't climb [TS]

00:16:52   trees yet [TS]

00:16:54   mm I i have nothing you know i have i've [TS]

00:16:58   had a lot of experience with people's [TS]

00:16:59   first-hand experience with them being [TS]

00:17:02   just delightful little people [TS]

00:17:04   yes and that's the problem is the bottom [TS]

00:17:06   dachshund is what caused that can like a [TS]

00:17:10   crush on Iron Chef okay okay here's the [TS]

00:17:12   thing Tommy tune comes downstairs with [TS]

00:17:14   his dogs wearing his jammies if you were [TS]

00:17:15   to give him a pop quiz right there on [TS]

00:17:17   the street in front of place for you [TS]

00:17:18   weren't drinking he said excuse me sir [TS]

00:17:20   do you think it's possible that your [TS]

00:17:22   little doggie ginger or Mary Ann or [TS]

00:17:25   whatever you think Marion's probably [TS]

00:17:27   upstairs sleeping but because you know [TS]

00:17:29   they can have two dogs in San Francisco [TS]

00:17:30   you can have two dogs in one kid or two [TS]

00:17:33   kids and one dog but there's gotta be [TS]

00:17:34   you gotta do something you're not saying [TS]

00:17:36   oh [TS]

00:17:36   so it's a thing it's a thing they check [TS]

00:17:38   the check you at the at the gate there's [TS]

00:17:40   always that one kid two kids are one dog [TS]

00:17:42   but you gotta do something this little [TS]

00:17:44   more like a ginger or Mary Ann probably [TS]

00:17:45   change your intestine and so this guy [TS]

00:17:48   comes downstairs you know stay together [TS]

00:17:49   populist you said let me let me ask me [TS]

00:17:51   ask you this do you thinks gonna be sir [TS]

00:17:53   to be a pop quiz man-on-the-street let [TS]

00:17:56   me give you I'm gonna give you a quick [TS]

00:17:57   question [TS]

00:17:58   don't overthink it is there a chance [TS]

00:17:59   that your dog ginger or or Marilyn [TS]

00:18:03   Monroe or judy garland or whatever is [TS]

00:18:05   there a chance that your little dog with [TS]

00:18:07   tear ass after a fucking cat sighs rat [TS]

00:18:10   and run away from you to go eat it until [TS]

00:18:12   there was nothing more to eat to tear it [TS]

00:18:13   apart just for fun [TS]

00:18:15   get it in its little mouth oh you brush [TS]

00:18:17   his teeth I know if there's no little [TS]

00:18:18   yellow spots on T it goes and it fucking [TS]

00:18:20   bites a rat and shakes it and then it's [TS]

00:18:22   Matt there isn't more right to kill sir [TS]

00:18:25   yes or no do you think that's likely to [TS]

00:18:27   happen and he'd say excuse me [TS]

00:18:30   oh now now we're going to get letters [TS]

00:18:33   from so now you're getting ping-pong and [TS]

00:18:35   so here's the problem you breed a dog [TS]

00:18:37   you know what you understand what [TS]

00:18:38   breathing is you know you understand IDK [TS]

00:18:40   what can I eugenics you know all about [TS]

00:18:43   freedom canine eugenics is you do [TS]

00:18:45   something really fucked up with two dogs [TS]

00:18:46   and say which one of these turned out [TS]

00:18:48   more of the really crazy dog we were [TS]

00:18:51   trying to make out of two different dogs [TS]

00:18:53   and right it's a form of forest [TS]

00:18:54   evolution and then you put the other one [TS]

00:18:56   in a sack full of rocks and throwing [TS]

00:18:58   over bridge as you do [TS]

00:18:59   yeah yeah so I'm just saying I got [TS]

00:19:01   nothing against pit bulls my [TS]

00:19:02   sister-in-law who threw my glasses way [TS]

00:19:04   nothing i'm angry she had as a pitbull [TS]

00:19:06   the they were told that it was a pitbull [TS]

00:19:08   and then some kind of like a look at was [TS]

00:19:11   sweet bird dog one of the sweet dumb [TS]

00:19:13   bird dogs later transferred on birddog [TS]

00:19:16   think Josh know he um no but you are you [TS]

00:19:18   get one of those sweet talks like a [TS]

00:19:19   retriever retrievers are not the [TS]

00:19:21   sharpest dog in the drawer right but in [TS]

00:19:23   and we brought home like oh this is [TS]

00:19:25   sweet it's a retriever pitbull mix and [TS]

00:19:27   in the fullness of time it became [TS]

00:19:29   clearer and clearer that a pitbull have [TS]

00:19:31   fucked a little bit of retriever and in [TS]

00:19:33   this lookout came out here looking [TS]

00:19:36   retrievers they don't seem smart but it [TS]

00:19:38   might just be that we but they have not [TS]

00:19:41   been called into action yet LOL what I [TS]

00:19:44   mean [TS]

00:19:44   also if you throw in the rat into some [TS]

00:19:46   water well it could just be that the [TS]

00:19:48   retriever let's say the retriever [TS]

00:19:50   as we think of them as like I'll go get [TS]

00:19:52   the duck bring the duck back who but it [TS]

00:19:54   may be that that a million retrievers [TS]

00:19:56   over the course of the thousand years [TS]

00:19:58   keep coming down those metaphorical [TS]

00:20:01   apartment steps and they keep walking [TS]

00:20:03   out the door and there is no in this [TS]

00:20:06   case metaphorical rat that activates [TS]

00:20:10   what retrievers are there ultimately to [TS]

00:20:13   do a duck has never been provided [TS]

00:20:16   whatever the whatever the duck is in [TS]

00:20:18   this situation who clearly it is a duck [TS]

00:20:21   is not just a duck here whatever a duck [TS]

00:20:25   is we just always think of them as is [TS]

00:20:27   duck chasers but they were not were not [TS]

00:20:31   put on this planet perhaps just to bring [TS]

00:20:33   duck's back [TS]

00:20:34   they might be waiting they might be [TS]

00:20:36   waiting they are Manchurian Candidate i [TS]

00:20:39   don't i don't know i guess so but you [TS]

00:20:41   know it's so hard to know what our [TS]

00:20:42   audience is interested in and I think at [TS]

00:20:45   some level shouldn't matter because help [TS]

00:20:46   comes from places sometimes dark so that [TS]

00:20:48   helps the darkness falls out of the sky [TS]

00:20:49   as I think you've shown but i think our [TS]

00:20:52   relationship with animals is something [TS]

00:20:54   that is worth pursuing and penetrating [TS]

00:20:56   and stick a finger in because it's clear [TS]

00:20:58   to me that we talked about this with [TS]

00:21:00   raccoons we talked about this with [TS]

00:21:02   raccoons we've talked about this with [TS]

00:21:04   nutria we've certainly talked about this [TS]

00:21:06   with birds horses i like your Manchurian [TS]

00:21:09   Candidate thing I think I think we're [TS]

00:21:11   facing the rover we have taken these [TS]

00:21:12   animals out of their natural unnatural [TS]

00:21:14   environment right that their natural [TS]

00:21:16   environment be walking around just [TS]

00:21:17   eating shit they find but we want to [TS]

00:21:19   make them two things that by poles on [TS]

00:21:20   the nose [TS]

00:21:21   yes you are you making a dog by to pull [TS]

00:21:24   on the nose if you if you create a dog [TS]

00:21:26   whose sole purpose is to buy a bowl on [TS]

00:21:29   the nose in the same way that when you [TS]

00:21:31   create a rat chaser you get this the [TS]

00:21:34   side effect is that it is incontinent if [TS]

00:21:37   you create a bowl knows biter [TS]

00:21:38   uh-huh what are the side effects like [TS]

00:21:40   it's a canine game of whack-a-mole [TS]

00:21:42   there's something else in that dog [TS]

00:21:44   there's some other higher purpose [TS]

00:21:46   because biting Apple on the nose [TS]

00:21:49   sure but how many times is that going to [TS]

00:21:51   happen to a guy this is important to [TS]

00:21:53   come in this is super interesting and [TS]

00:21:55   you have to wonder with these little [TS]

00:21:56   genetic freaks that we keep in our home [TS]

00:21:58   you have you have to wonder like at what [TS]

00:22:01   point what point will that sleeper cell [TS]

00:22:03   be activate [TS]

00:22:04   it by something you know rat it is is [TS]

00:22:06   closer to a badger than most things in [TS]

00:22:08   the world right through closer to a [TS]

00:22:10   better than say a shovel yes exactly [TS]

00:22:14   it's a hole is a hole using device but [TS]

00:22:19   but no absolutely and and so okay so [TS]

00:22:22   here's what I'm thinking I'm thinking of [TS]

00:22:23   dogs I've known a hole using the device [TS]

00:22:25   i had a PI had a pointer that was really [TS]

00:22:27   stupid and I had a beagle that was [TS]

00:22:29   really stupid and but both of them in [TS]

00:22:32   there but what are you measuring their [TS]

00:22:33   intelligence stupid relative to your [TS]

00:22:35   friends stupid relative to like a lot of [TS]

00:22:38   it has to do with me a lot of it has to [TS]

00:22:40   do with me you can you can judge a dog [TS]

00:22:42   by a large apart from its genetic freak [TS]

00:22:44   nature by the person who is the animal [TS]

00:22:47   companion of that dog you don't say [TS]

00:22:50   owner you know that you say animal [TS]

00:22:52   companion who are we going to get some [TS]

00:22:55   letters yeah we're gonna get letters [TS]

00:22:56   from the companions but ok for example i [TS]

00:22:59   have this building is shepherding the [TS]

00:23:00   animal through life you're not its owner [TS]

00:23:02   my puter West pointer would point like [TS]

00:23:04   he'd never been around meeting the point [TS]

00:23:05   at but still there's something inside of [TS]

00:23:07   him that when he said he smelled [TS]

00:23:08   everything an amazing sense of smell and [TS]

00:23:10   I never knew what he was pointing at it [TS]

00:23:12   could have been the metaphorical [TS]

00:23:13   Duckworth my beagle which would have [TS]

00:23:15   been seeing dead people [TS]

00:23:16   well then maybe i'll just say my beagle [TS]

00:23:20   like every time we turned around he [TS]

00:23:21   killed a rabbit [TS]

00:23:21   I don't even know they were rabbits [TS]

00:23:22   somewhere not find around tell it the [TS]

00:23:24   same way as it with this goddamn rat [TS]

00:23:26   yeah maybe I mean I don't know cuz their [TS]

00:23:28   way we could have a dog that would like [TS]

00:23:29   bring us coffee or I mean if we're going [TS]

00:23:32   to the thing is we know so much more [TS]

00:23:33   about genetics today and if you have a [TS]

00:23:35   bernese mountain dog who had a that had [TS]

00:23:38   a hexameric it's me and more now it's [TS]

00:23:44   gotten me and my reign Ian bernese [TS]

00:23:46   mountain dog had a barrel around his [TS]

00:23:49   neck and you could adapt some I'm sure [TS]

00:23:51   if you went to your local starbucks and [TS]

00:23:53   said listen I'm trying to build a wooden [TS]

00:23:55   barrel then I'm gonna hang around my [TS]

00:23:58   dog's neck and I wanted to I wanted to [TS]

00:24:00   carry coffee do you have a nozzle do you [TS]

00:24:02   have a nipple or something that 10 and i [TS]

00:24:05   can put on this barrel that can interact [TS]

00:24:07   with your espresso drip coffeemaker [TS]

00:24:10   thing somewhere in seattle there's a guy [TS]

00:24:13   yes if you want if you went up to the [TS]

00:24:14   counter he'd probably be wearing one of [TS]

00:24:16   those like [TS]

00:24:17   knee-length aprons and he would have a [TS]

00:24:19   handlebar mustache [TS]

00:24:20   it's am trying to make a I'm trying to [TS]

00:24:22   make a barrel that my bernese mountain [TS]

00:24:23   dog can carry can bring coffee to me in [TS]

00:24:25   the morning [TS]

00:24:26   do you have the nipple and before you [TS]

00:24:28   even said nipple he'd be like up i have [TS]

00:24:30   exactly what you're looking for [TS]

00:24:31   that's forty nine dollars and he would [TS]

00:24:33   go back he would go back by the county [TS]

00:24:34   would come out within our array of tubes [TS]

00:24:36   and then he would say in this this all [TS]

00:24:38   hooks of course to your Italian like [TS]

00:24:41   single press coffee device right okay [TS]

00:24:45   here's the other thing they like there's [TS]

00:24:47   all this bullshit going on now where [TS]

00:24:48   people are trying to make all these [TS]

00:24:49   computer things that the do stuff and [TS]

00:24:51   don't really do it [TS]

00:24:52   there's an app you can get now where you [TS]

00:24:53   can like call ahead to order coffee and [TS]

00:24:54   then you go there pick it up which [TS]

00:24:56   whatever i'm not sure how much time that [TS]

00:24:57   saves the point is these places their [TS]

00:25:00   biggest cost you know the coffee's about [TS]

00:25:02   the license to print money it's your [TS]

00:25:03   hands paying the guy in the apron that's [TS]

00:25:04   costly i'm thinking you get a dog collar [TS]

00:25:07   with a smart card in it and a nozzle you [TS]

00:25:09   you get the Bernese to the béarnaise [TS]

00:25:11   don't pronounce it guarantees yeah it's [TS]

00:25:13   a it's a bears mountain there's no [TS]

00:25:15   reason if you can see if you can teach a [TS]

00:25:16   sweet little animal fighting bulls knows [TS]

00:25:18   they're chasing a rabbit down the hole [TS]

00:25:19   there's no fucking reason that you [TS]

00:25:21   cannot teach if an average to [TS]

00:25:23   above-average intelligence dog to fill a [TS]

00:25:25   wooden barrel with coffee [TS]

00:25:27   yeah right exactly and it once we've [TS]

00:25:29   done that I don't even care what that [TS]

00:25:31   dogs real purpose in life is [TS]

00:25:33   yeah I'm gonna get one and he's going to [TS]

00:25:35   come upstairs and into my room every [TS]

00:25:36   morning with a barrel of coffee around [TS]

00:25:38   his neck and I'll pat him on the head [TS]

00:25:40   and that will be all he needs because [TS]

00:25:42   all they want to do is please let me [TS]

00:25:43   know what you doing John you you're [TS]

00:25:44   using the same Frank honesty and candor [TS]

00:25:47   which i think is all means the same [TS]

00:25:49   thing that you bring to all of your [TS]

00:25:50   transactions in life which is you have [TS]

00:25:52   made the barrel into the duck [TS]

00:25:54   he's not gonna want to go chase other [TS]

00:25:55   stuff he's going to want to fucking [TS]

00:25:56   bring you coffee [TS]

00:25:57   exactly he didn't even know what the [TS]

00:25:59   duck was now until it was a barrel [TS]

00:26:01   oh and the thing about this is that i [TS]

00:26:03   believe that this is true of human [TS]

00:26:04   beings to you think everybody's got a [TS]

00:26:06   doc that's what I was thinking [TS]

00:26:07   yes we are more complicated obviously [TS]

00:26:09   than bernese mountain dogs or wiener [TS]

00:26:11   dogs but i think that there are I think [TS]

00:26:14   that we are waiting [TS]

00:26:15   each of us for our duck [TS]

00:26:18   and when that duck appears sometimes [TS]

00:26:21   you're not you're not thinking about it [TS]

00:26:23   you're not ready for it here at a [TS]

00:26:24   bookstore you're looking you know you're [TS]

00:26:26   looking for a housewarming gift you are [TS]

00:26:30   like on your way to meet your fiancé [TS]

00:26:33   and your duck appears who are you gonna [TS]

00:26:36   I mean are you gonna chase that rat into [TS]

00:26:38   the bushes and down the hole and get [TS]

00:26:39   your pink ribbons dirty and or are you [TS]

00:26:42   going to fight the fact that every fiber [TS]

00:26:44   of your being says holy shit i never [TS]

00:26:46   knew it but there's my duck [TS]

00:26:47   there's my duck and i'm going to look [TS]

00:26:49   away because I and I have self [TS]

00:26:52   domesticated myself there's no there's [TS]

00:26:54   no guy in his pajamas who's brought me [TS]

00:26:56   here to this doorway it is i am the guy [TS]

00:26:59   in pajamas and i am the dog and I am [TS]

00:27:03   ignoring the doc well as much as you can [TS]

00:27:05   say and I know you didn't get along with [TS]

00:27:07   you this because you're watching the rat [TS]

00:27:08   but like for example the guy in the [TS]

00:27:10   jammies [TS]

00:27:11   what's his duck exactly left it ok [TS]

00:27:15   alright I'm thing is when his dog went [TS]

00:27:17   off into the bushes yeah he's left [TS]

00:27:18   holding the dock like now everything's [TS]

00:27:21   changed for this guy right [TS]

00:27:23   is he gonna is he gonna let this dog [TS]

00:27:24   come into his bed and let him on the [TS]

00:27:26   face tonight covered in rap like it goes [TS]

00:27:28   any fines ginger and in you know you [TS]

00:27:31   using dead rats or stomped rats i [TS]

00:27:32   replace our band used to practice i was [TS]

00:27:34   at my friend's house and he was feral my [TS]

00:27:37   friend was terrible he he hunted he [TS]

00:27:39   would go out in the backyard and shoot [TS]

00:27:41   rats and he hated rats and he was you [TS]

00:27:44   know he liked work for a living like he [TS]

00:27:46   had like rough hands and boots our [TS]

00:27:47   drummer and use that you used some kind [TS]

00:27:49   of steel pressed he would see what [TS]

00:27:51   stopped them he would stop them in the [TS]

00:27:53   kitchen and then scoop them up with the [TS]

00:27:56   cardboard anything that 12 Bush beers [TS]

00:27:59   came in and then just throw it on the [TS]

00:28:00   back yard and house like a frog box so [TS]

00:28:04   it's also make a great hat too i just [TS]

00:28:06   saw Coors Light cowboy hat for sale on [TS]

00:28:08   amazon just yesterday I didn't even know [TS]

00:28:10   that existed in that weird even imagine [TS]

00:28:14   he would smash it with his boot and [TS]

00:28:15   scoop it up he had no problem and to me [TS]

00:28:17   I know it completely freaked me out that [TS]

00:28:19   he could do it and wasn't something [TS]

00:28:21   where he was like I'm drunk and I'm [TS]

00:28:22   going to kick a rat he had done this so [TS]

00:28:24   many times that you know how hard it is [TS]

00:28:26   to to stop a rat you know how fast those [TS]

00:28:29   little fuckers are yes he was not [TS]

00:28:30   startled he was not [TS]

00:28:32   I care that his name his name is legion [TS]

00:28:34   his name was Bruce but I think he's a [TS]

00:28:36   commando he's a commando but didn't the [TS]

00:28:39   thing is that when you see a rats and [TS]

00:28:40   smashed or like it like an arcade [TS]

00:28:42   neighborhood a pigeon thank god it looks [TS]

00:28:44   like what it looks like if you don't [TS]

00:28:46   really understand the word guts until [TS]

00:28:48   you've seen a smashed animal even seem [TS]

00:28:50   like a if you see somebody like cut-up a [TS]

00:28:52   cow or a pig it's still not the same [TS]

00:28:54   there's a surgical nature took the [TS]

00:28:56   cutting the handoff a pig [TS]

00:28:57   this is something completely different [TS]

00:28:59   this is nature this is uses your duck [TS]

00:29:01   staring in the face it looks like steak [TS]

00:29:02   tartare maybe yeah but it's like with a [TS]

00:29:05   plate of spaghetti put on it [TS]

00:29:07   yes yes okay that's Gus and I and you [TS]

00:29:10   stuff all of it in a furry slipper [TS]

00:29:13   yeah I've seen some squash things here's [TS]

00:29:17   the here's the problem i'm just going to [TS]

00:29:18   say this just just quickly and passing [TS]

00:29:19   i'll probably cut this out but the thing [TS]

00:29:21   is if you obtain a dog whose entire [TS]

00:29:25   raison d'être from its entire line of [TS]

00:29:28   existence down the line with all these [TS]

00:29:30   dogs was to literally kill things to [TS]

00:29:33   kill big things not be scared of things [TS]

00:29:35   you know dinosaurs you can hide from [TS]

00:29:37   dinosaurs long as you stand still [TS]

00:29:38   once you start moving that dinosaur goes [TS]

00:29:40   after that's how it works they're not [TS]

00:29:41   super private got a brain the size of a [TS]

00:29:42   walnut if you've got had that much [TS]

00:29:44   experience hiding from dinosaurs so [TS]

00:29:46   thank you from to your knowledge she [TS]

00:29:48   took me that okay all I'm saying is this [TS]

00:29:50   what happens after every no one noticed [TS]

00:29:52   a pitbull actually I'm saying people up [TS]

00:29:55   after every vicious dog attack that [TS]

00:29:57   kills a child or old person to a person [TS]

00:30:00   what does the owner always say the [TS]

00:30:03   nicest sweetest dog Dave never done [TS]

00:30:05   anything like even near this before [TS]

00:30:07   right [TS]

00:30:08   there's not a single person in the world [TS]

00:30:09   that hasn't had their dog except for [TS]

00:30:11   maybe like a football player somebody [TS]

00:30:12   they've never had anybody even if [TS]

00:30:14   there's never been anybody with a dog [TS]

00:30:16   that killed a person who said yeah [TS]

00:30:18   that's happened five times there's [TS]

00:30:20   always a first time but this is [TS]

00:30:21   absolutely this is exactly the problem [TS]

00:30:23   with human beings to that that's that's [TS]

00:30:25   what everybody says about the about the [TS]

00:30:27   maniac white supremacist guy that walks [TS]

00:30:29   in and kills a bunch of sikhs because he [TS]

00:30:31   doesn't understand what I see kids a lot [TS]

00:30:34   wrong turban long-term he's like you [TS]

00:30:36   know that this guy that killed all the [TS]

00:30:38   all that walked into the sikh temple and [TS]

00:30:40   killed all the sikhs and everyone saying [TS]

00:30:42   well gee I don't understand what his [TS]

00:30:44   motivation was [TS]

00:30:45   right well because he's an asshole and [TS]

00:30:47   he's an idiot and these he doesn't know [TS]

00:30:49   that the husband till the one turban [TS]

00:30:51   from the other and he doesn't even he [TS]

00:30:53   doesn't care and there's three there [TS]

00:30:55   could be three minute like we said [TS]

00:30:56   before with the clan there could be [TS]

00:30:57   three minutes in junior high that [TS]

00:30:59   largely explains why he is the way he is [TS]

00:31:01   it didn't take it didn't take a lot of [TS]

00:31:02   reading while there's probably some [TS]

00:31:03   breathing issues but but you know I'm [TS]

00:31:05   saying you've never done anything like [TS]

00:31:06   that all that's the problem but you [TS]

00:31:08   never do anything like this before and [TS]

00:31:10   then all of a sudden [TS]

00:31:11   oh he killed nine people well it's like [TS]

00:31:13   none of us have ever done anything like [TS]

00:31:14   that before [TS]

00:31:15   and until we do because we are we're [TS]

00:31:18   we're we're animals simples all of this [TS]

00:31:22   one of those stupid sayings like [TS]

00:31:24   whenever you lose someone you find [TS]

00:31:26   something you lost its always in the [TS]

00:31:27   last place you look [TS]

00:31:28   I cannot believe that adults still say [TS]

00:31:30   that haha well I found it but I kept [TS]

00:31:33   looking for a couple hours it's the [TS]

00:31:34   weirdest thing [TS]

00:31:35   yeah okay so um here's a question for [TS]

00:31:38   you then you know about you know about [TS]

00:31:42   serial killers i do I have a sideline ru [TS]

00:31:46   ru ru laughs and you follow serial [TS]

00:31:48   killers apologize i'm pretty enough and [TS]

00:31:50   you're not a fan of anybody but I'm [TS]

00:31:52   pretty interested in serial killers and [TS]

00:31:54   it's my understanding that yes I'm not [TS]

00:31:57   just start did this start back in the [TS]

00:31:59   day like there was a time in the early [TS]

00:32:00   nineties were serial killers dead Sam [TS]

00:32:04   dumb was a was a thing in our culture [TS]

00:32:06   right John Wayne Gacy selling paintings [TS]

00:32:08   and getting marriage proposals [TS]

00:32:10   yeah I had a lot of friends that had [TS]

00:32:11   that had that chorus that literally [TS]

00:32:14   correspondent with killers in the in the [TS]

00:32:16   jail and had books about them and stuff [TS]

00:32:18   it's after I was not easy to send a [TS]

00:32:20   letter to anybody it really is and I did [TS]

00:32:22   not I did not approve that and I did not [TS]

00:32:25   indulge in it but but since since the [TS]

00:32:28   Internet has arrived in all of our lives [TS]

00:32:30   I must confess to having spent many many [TS]

00:32:33   hours late at night trying to understand [TS]

00:32:36   not trying to understand well yeah [TS]

00:32:38   trying to understand Bundy and Jeffrey [TS]

00:32:43   Dahmer are well and our local money snow [TS]

00:32:46   bunny the hell of a story Bundy isn't [TS]

00:32:48   Bundy was not one of my first serial [TS]

00:32:49   killers [TS]

00:32:50   well it seems in Florida he was already [TS]

00:32:51   you know when he was one of the first [TS]

00:32:54   serial killers he was smart shit [TS]

00:32:57   art and diabolical and he broke out he [TS]

00:32:59   broke out of jail he changed his you [TS]

00:33:02   know there's a lot of a lot of it is [TS]

00:33:04   yuki you get some guy in Quantico was [TS]

00:33:06   drinking a lot of coffee thinks he has [TS]

00:33:07   it figured out where Bundy Bundy and [TS]

00:33:08   again I'm not here to promote Ted Bundy [TS]

00:33:11   but he but he did he took an eternity [TS]

00:33:13   switch it up he tried different things [TS]

00:33:15   he go to different places he escaped [TS]

00:33:17   multiple times but but she also i mean [TS]

00:33:19   there's this like oh yeah he was this [TS]

00:33:21   rig super killer but then he also would [TS]

00:33:23   go up into the mountains and have sex [TS]

00:33:26   with the dead body of the person he [TS]

00:33:27   killed for multiple days until in his [TS]

00:33:31   own words the body was not you could no [TS]

00:33:33   longer have sex with the rise of [TS]

00:33:35   decomposition is a college math and that [TS]

00:33:37   is the thing that it's very difficult to [TS]

00:33:39   square with like yeah use the body and [TS]

00:33:41   Clyde and then o.o spend two seconds [TS]

00:33:45   thinking about the things that he did [TS]

00:33:47   over there is no possible way to [TS]

00:33:50   contextualise that if you if you you [TS]

00:33:53   can't get that you can't live in a world [TS]

00:33:56   where that is possible and yet here he [TS]

00:34:00   you believe that people are like [TS]

00:34:02   reasonable predictable and that you know [TS]

00:34:06   that it I guess what I'm saying is it is [TS]

00:34:08   not possible to live in a world where [TS]

00:34:10   there are Bundy's and at the same time [TS]

00:34:11   you believe that we can educate people [TS]

00:34:16   away educate our our society to a point [TS]

00:34:20   where there is no longer hatred or [TS]

00:34:23   suffering you know what I mean like [TS]

00:34:24   there's this is the liberal conceit [TS]

00:34:26   right that if we just want attention [TS]

00:34:28   people are basically people are [TS]

00:34:30   basically good and need to be given the [TS]

00:34:32   circumstances to do the right thing [TS]

00:34:34   yeah and we just we just threw through a [TS]

00:34:36   process of acculturation and also some [TS]

00:34:38   sort of draconian laws and maybe we [TS]

00:34:43   throw a little busing on there then and [TS]

00:34:46   then all of a sudden all of our hatred [TS]

00:34:48   of one another will go away and we will [TS]

00:34:50   live in a utopia where we wake up every [TS]

00:34:53   morning and and make musically for one [TS]

00:34:55   another and we all gathered a common [TS]

00:34:58   table and eat usually and you know and [TS]

00:35:01   our linen garments don't chafe and then [TS]

00:35:03   except for this one guy who likes to eat [TS]

00:35:05   peoples faces or have sex with dead [TS]

00:35:07   bodies [TS]

00:35:08   but he's you know really like he just [TS]

00:35:11   saw he just found his dark and handsome [TS]

00:35:13   and we're just gonna have to hit we have [TS]

00:35:15   to walk him over to this other area this [TS]

00:35:17   fenced-off area even though fences are [TS]

00:35:20   terrible that's the exception to the [TS]

00:35:21   rule [TS]

00:35:21   yeah and it's like well maybe he [TS]

00:35:23   certainly is an outlier right on the [TS]

00:35:26   bell curve survives the people of the [TS]

00:35:28   people we're aware of and the people [TS]

00:35:29   we've caught bet there's a lot of [TS]

00:35:31   painting Snatchers out there I bet [TS]

00:35:33   people would be everybody here's here's [TS]

00:35:34   one of the problems turns out is that [TS]

00:35:36   everybody thinks you know for example [TS]

00:35:37   child abductions have gone way way down [TS]

00:35:39   since like the nineteen-forties of [TS]

00:35:41   interesting it's just the reporting of [TS]

00:35:43   things like child abduction has gone [TS]

00:35:45   through the roof [TS]

00:35:45   there's probably they were probably way [TS]

00:35:47   more missing blondes back in the days [TS]

00:35:48   when cars were larger it's just that [TS]

00:35:49   today it's way over reported what I'm [TS]

00:35:52   saying yes I do yes yes and so and so I [TS]

00:35:54   think that's part of it but here's the [TS]

00:35:56   other thing good but you know Bundy [TS]

00:35:57   worked as a as a pretty high up staffer [TS]

00:36:02   for the camp the Republican campaign for [TS]

00:36:05   governor here in Washington State and he [TS]

00:36:08   was like a trusted advisor of the love [TS]

00:36:11   of the man who eventually was the [TS]

00:36:13   Republican governor of Washington and so [TS]

00:36:16   you have to be pretty high functioning [TS]

00:36:19   not just high-functioning maniac you [TS]

00:36:21   have to be a pretty high-functioning [TS]

00:36:22   person to be working that challenge John [TS]

00:36:25   Wayne Gacy was not only a clown at [TS]

00:36:27   children's parties he was one of the [TS]

00:36:28   most respected businessman in his in his [TS]

00:36:30   area of chicago and here's how he got a [TS]

00:36:33   lot of those young men in the car was [TS]

00:36:35   that he would say to them hey look on [TS]

00:36:37   this construction business do you want [TS]

00:36:39   to make a little bit of quick money i'd [TS]

00:36:41   be more than happy I'm a clown at [TS]

00:36:42   parties and a member of the Rotary Club [TS]

00:36:44   and I'm so i hope i didn't get that [TS]

00:36:45   wrong night at the Argentine stadium [TS]

00:36:46   wrong I'm a clown at the Rotary Club and [TS]

00:36:49   yeah yeah and so and so but but people [TS]

00:36:52   get the car and then pretty soon they're [TS]

00:36:53   in the basement [TS]

00:36:54   he's got to stick with a wire on a [TS]

00:36:55   twisting around the neck and he's [TS]

00:36:56   reading the Bible verses and then he [TS]

00:36:57   calls on the screwdriver that actually [TS]

00:36:59   sounds kinda hot especially with a clown [TS]

00:37:02   uh-huh i would like I wouldn't like it [TS]

00:37:04   at first no no understanding is that he [TS]

00:37:07   put that he it was Casey right there [TS]

00:37:09   buried the bodies in the basement and [TS]

00:37:12   then just go just poured lye on them so [TS]

00:37:14   yeah I mean isn't this all works for a [TS]

00:37:16   while and then they found [TS]

00:37:17   it was something like I want to say 28 [TS]

00:37:19   of them but here's what I want you [TS]

00:37:20   speaking of ducks you've got you look at [TS]

00:37:23   somebody like Jeffrey Dahmer who's a [TS]

00:37:25   super interesting character talks about [TS]

00:37:26   a freaky little guy he was a real freaky [TS]

00:37:29   guy but you know what he had that same [TS]

00:37:31   pattern as a whole bunch of people can I [TS]

00:37:33   just say killing cats you need a kid who [TS]

00:37:36   blows up a little bit too much stuff you [TS]

00:37:38   excluded you meet somebody who has [TS]

00:37:39   killed a lot of cats never kill the [TS]

00:37:41   thing in blowing things up i'm so glad i [TS]

00:37:44   always said clear [TS]

00:37:46   fire in the hole fire in the hole get [TS]

00:37:49   out that and then I and then I would [TS]

00:37:56   miss the ignition button and boom he's [TS]

00:37:59   like yeah I can't imagine like wearing [TS]

00:38:01   like this yellow like you know marksman [TS]

00:38:03   glasses goggles but all I'm saying is [TS]

00:38:06   this if it is fair to say and I think [TS]

00:38:08   it's fair to say because I've read [TS]

00:38:10   enough I've read enough books I've [TS]

00:38:11   watched enough TV shows and spend some [TS]

00:38:13   time with media to know that a lifetime [TS]

00:38:15   that you you take somebody who's a [TS]

00:38:17   14-year old cat killer and you have your [TS]

00:38:20   seeing the seeds of something that will [TS]

00:38:22   become the discovery of docs and star [TS]

00:38:25   which is a terrific Marquez story by the [TS]

00:38:27   way and now here's a question to you and [TS]

00:38:29   there's something request is this just [TS]

00:38:31   for serial killers are there other [TS]

00:38:32   things where we should be watching not [TS]

00:38:34   necessarily cats that are being killed [TS]

00:38:35   with animals should we be watching [TS]

00:38:37   animals doing freaky stuff like animals [TS]

00:38:39   that I don't know they like they like to [TS]

00:38:40   I'd like to choose furniture they I'm [TS]

00:38:43   just saying [TS]

00:38:44   are there ways that we can see this [TS]

00:38:45   feral nature coming out before it comes [TS]

00:38:48   to a dead rat or a coed and i think the [TS]

00:38:51   other markers John other markers you're [TS]

00:38:53   saying in the animal kingdom were in the [TS]

00:38:54   human can John it's the same kingdom [TS]

00:38:56   trillions [TS]

00:38:57   i'm going to say that yes there are [TS]

00:39:00   markers all the time and that's why we [TS]

00:39:01   don't hang out with people who listen to [TS]

00:39:03   white supremacist music but we do hang [TS]

00:39:09   out with say for instance bronies man [TS]

00:39:14   you know like you look at some bronies [TS]

00:39:16   and you think has a brownie ever flipped [TS]

00:39:19   his lid and ride you think the Bernie [TS]

00:39:21   Sanders duck i think they have I think [TS]

00:39:24   that's absolutely true they found but [TS]

00:39:26   there are a lot of ducks right there are [TS]

00:39:28   a lot of kerala there are there's a [TS]

00:39:30   large dogs and there's a lot of decoys [TS]

00:39:32   that that's exactly right and there are [TS]

00:39:34   there are tons of dogs who for whom that [TS]

00:39:39   rat would not have been there duck who [TS]

00:39:42   you know they got a different doc it [TS]

00:39:44   come out there i would run right under [TS]

00:39:45   their nose right across their paws and [TS]

00:39:48   the dog obviously the ears would go up [TS]

00:39:50   they would be attentive the head the [TS]

00:39:52   tail would go up they would just as [TS]

00:39:54   every other human on that street if we [TS]

00:39:56   had ears that could go up our ears were [TS]

00:39:58   all up on that rat came out from under [TS]

00:40:00   the car right our tails all went up my [TS]

00:40:03   if I if I see a rat I even though I [TS]

00:40:06   understand if I see a rat a remove and [TS]

00:40:09   and the thing is a rat doesn't want to [TS]

00:40:10   be seen [TS]

00:40:11   no rat the rat that he realized oh he [TS]

00:40:14   realizes i am clocked he's gonna find a [TS]

00:40:16   wall he's gonna run along the lines [TS]

00:40:17   going to the creepy think of another [TS]

00:40:19   their their their bodies look like a [TS]

00:40:21   ferret their kind of weasel kind of [TS]

00:40:22   bifurcated and kind of scoot this big [TS]

00:40:24   but they're so gross [TS]

00:40:26   the guts but they're gonna they're gonna [TS]

00:40:28   hightail it away they're not going to [TS]

00:40:29   come confront you about having been seen [TS]

00:40:31   you know when you just said big but it [TS]

00:40:32   occurred to me that there is someone on [TS]

00:40:34   listening to this podcast who is not a [TS]

00:40:38   hundred percent sure that they aren't [TS]

00:40:40   may be attracted to rats essentially is [TS]

00:40:43   mixed listening [TS]

00:40:45   I don't think you know I don't think he [TS]

00:40:48   made him aware of the show I don't think [TS]

00:40:50   that mix listens but i did recently [TS]

00:40:52   learned that not one but two where I [TS]

00:40:56   knew that one of the presidents of the [TS]

00:40:57   united states of america was a regular [TS]

00:40:59   listener right but but now it turns out [TS]

00:41:01   that two of them are who I think I know [TS]

00:41:05   the invitation has only has two strings [TS]

00:41:06   on his drum to Gina didn't know that [TS]

00:41:08   that's part of his sound you know you [TS]

00:41:10   know this is is a is one of his rack [TS]

00:41:12   Tom's is a beer cooler i can track has a [TS]

00:41:15   riot [TS]

00:41:16   he knows that he knows how to live but [TS]

00:41:17   no uh lead singer of the president's [TS]

00:41:20   Chris blue fails crisply welcome to the [TS]

00:41:22   family famous American nothing but every [TS]

00:41:25   episode quit now every episode and he [TS]

00:41:28   has a he gave me he can be broken down [TS]

00:41:30   from the other day gave me the exegesis [TS]

00:41:31   of our whole thing he did he pulled a [TS]

00:41:33   little bit of plans burgers Jason gave [TS]

00:41:35   me a second to Jason gave after flans [TS]

00:41:38   gave me the second-biggest exegesis that [TS]

00:41:40   I've ever gotten of the show and may I [TS]

00:41:42   say John of you i think i think you [TS]

00:41:43   might be Jason offense doc [TS]

00:41:45   Finn Finn knows a lot about me [TS]

00:41:48   he also notes notes for the Ducks appear [TS]

00:41:51   he also thinks he knows a lot more about [TS]

00:41:53   anything haha are you good for equal [TS]

00:41:59   time because he told me a lot of things [TS]

00:42:01   no no I have no III you're Maya it [TS]

00:42:04   trying to decode Jason finish the thing [TS]

00:42:06   that I do in private with Jason fitting [TS]

00:42:08   that you got to think i'm gonna take out [TS]

00:42:09   in the world [TS]

00:42:10   guys I keep imagining with you and so [TS]

00:42:13   many people at camera think once it's [TS]

00:42:15   the Raven business 1 Roger Corman movie [TS]

00:42:16   with like Peter Lorre and I want to see [TS]

00:42:19   Christopher Lee Vincent Price and [TS]

00:42:21   there's this one magic duel [TS]

00:42:22   it's done like five dollars with [TS]

00:42:24   suspects when they like throw fireballs [TS]

00:42:25   at each other across this long table to [TS]

00:42:28   keep imagining sounds like every friday [TS]

00:42:30   night for me getting a long table with [TS]

00:42:32   my friends just casting like cheap [TS]

00:42:34   effects at each other [TS]

00:42:35   let me ask you this have you ever known [TS]

00:42:37   a border collie I i would not come up in [TS]

00:42:41   a culture where border collies were a [TS]

00:42:45   major currency the dogs that that I knew [TS]

00:42:48   growing up [TS]

00:42:49   acknowledgments inhaler Malamutes and [TS]

00:42:51   huskies and shepherds [TS]

00:42:53   and uh actually Bernese Mountain Dogs [TS]

00:42:56   big dogs made for cold weather com and [TS]

00:43:00   then you might be surprised but my high [TS]

00:43:03   school girlfriend their family were [TS]

00:43:05   weiner dog owners and uncle are winners [TS]

00:43:07   and weird the wiener dogs could never go [TS]

00:43:10   outside because nature would kill them [TS]

00:43:12   instantly Alaska they're not sitting [TS]

00:43:15   there like an invasive exotic they're [TS]

00:43:17   not ever did [TS]

00:43:18   evasive they're not that suited for the [TS]

00:43:20   environment yeah the the Alaska itself [TS]

00:43:23   Alaska personified would see a wiener [TS]

00:43:25   dog and immediately crush it with just [TS]

00:43:28   it would just direct some cool people in [TS]

00:43:30   Germany keep their house key inside you [TS]

00:43:32   know what I mean I don't Germans don't [TS]

00:43:34   have Huskies is that right well I mean [TS]

00:43:36   modern Germans can have anything they [TS]

00:43:38   want because their domain allmovie [TS]

00:43:40   Czechoslovakia because they're deutsche [TS]

00:43:41   mark became the euro and then that is [TS]

00:43:43   that has purchasing power but [TS]

00:43:46   traditionally know they had they had to [TS]

00:43:48   they made all kinds of dogs they're [TS]

00:43:50   they're the ultimate dog makers on a [TS]

00:43:52   child Chinese him a run for their money [TS]

00:43:55   I do you know the prison inmates on a [TS]

00:43:57   thought china has made some fock top [TS]

00:43:59   dogs England now here's the thing in [TS]

00:44:02   England in France they were very [TS]

00:44:03   practical reason ask about border [TS]

00:44:05   collies just quickly [TS]

00:44:06   I've been around a few border collies [TS]

00:44:07   and there's one thing in common with all [TS]

00:44:08   of them here's what happens [TS]

00:44:10   excuse me I think people go out but my [TS]

00:44:13   cough but another just gonna take off [TS]

00:44:14   but i think people go out they look on [TS]

00:44:16   the internet or they buy a dog book at [TS]

00:44:18   the barnes and noble bring it home oh my [TS]

00:44:19   god border collies [TS]

00:44:20   look at that sweet face look at those [TS]

00:44:23   eyes oh my gosh well yeah they read the [TS]

00:44:24   first paragraph what they don't read is [TS]

00:44:27   that dog will never stop hurting [TS]

00:44:30   everything [TS]

00:44:31   oh right of course well i had a friend [TS]

00:44:33   that had an Australian Shepherd that dog [TS]

00:44:36   could actually climb walls but the base [TS]

00:44:41   AC ducts everywhere they gotta see ducks [TS]

00:44:43   there they're herding instinct is so [TS]

00:44:44   powerful that they will heard like dust [TS]

00:44:48   around the house they will heard [TS]

00:44:50   seriously build they'll sit and heard [TS]

00:44:52   anything that moves if you had a if you [TS]

00:44:54   have some streamers on a fan they would [TS]

00:44:56   try to get those streamers like I've [TS]

00:44:58   heard this from CS like a cat I've heard [TS]

00:45:00   this from three different people who've [TS]

00:45:01   had this that to varying degrees my [TS]

00:45:03   friend my friend Richard in particular [TS]

00:45:05   up in a border collie house and they [TS]

00:45:07   heard the children if he tried to leave [TS]

00:45:09   the dog [TS]

00:45:10   excuse me if he tried to leave the yard [TS]

00:45:11   the border collie would grab him in a [TS]

00:45:14   non harmful way by the seat of his pants [TS]

00:45:16   and drag him back into the yard which is [TS]

00:45:18   I think an advantage if you have [TS]

00:45:20   children who are stupid so you just need [TS]

00:45:24   to find the right duck for your dog and [TS]

00:45:27   the right dog for your duck if you have [TS]

00:45:28   stupid goes both ways get a border [TS]

00:45:30   collie if you're just stupid children [TS]

00:45:33   smart dog [TS]

00:45:34   yeah if your children heart then maybe [TS]

00:45:36   you need a dog that doesn't have that [TS]

00:45:37   and so if you've got a super genius in [TS]

00:45:39   the house like a super train you it's [TS]

00:45:40   okay to have a dumb dog now get this is [TS]

00:45:42   not the i don't see my kids and your mom [TS]

00:45:44   still listens [TS]

00:45:44   Gibson is a not no wait don't tell me i [TS]

00:45:46   know this oh shit it's not a greyhound [TS]

00:45:48   it's a was first letter first love be a [TS]

00:45:52   bird before so I'm course I upon a [TS]

00:45:59   borzoi that's exactly right you found [TS]

00:46:01   you found it in your mind [TS]

00:46:03   Gibson is a borzoi although he is a [TS]

00:46:06   borzoi crossed with a with it so he's a [TS]

00:46:10   second service fucking dog [TS]

00:46:12   it is he's a smaller dog while he's that [TS]

00:46:14   he's less nervous but he has incredible [TS]

00:46:17   have been around with it's like a great [TS]

00:46:19   math it is but the but he's much bigger [TS]

00:46:21   dog meant whip-it Gibson has doggy on we [TS]

00:46:24   got along just he does so he is consumed [TS]

00:46:29   he has anxiety which but really he has [TS]

00:46:33   he has on wee man only spend many many [TS]

00:46:36   hours sitting with his his paws under [TS]

00:46:40   his chin staring up the door wondering [TS]

00:46:43   about things you can use it to his [TS]

00:46:44   meeting this need a doc he's a cipher [TS]

00:46:46   his his dad because he has a doc which [TS]

00:46:49   is a spaghetti he wants spaghetti is his [TS]

00:46:53   luck he wants spaghetti and I that [TS]

00:46:55   there's nothing to account for this [TS]

00:46:57   there's nothing in the history of this [TS]

00:46:58   dog that would indicate that spaghetti [TS]

00:47:01   was the was was the holy grail for his [TS]

00:47:04   cat that ate spaghetti compulsively yeah [TS]

00:47:06   this is so bored boys were were the [TS]

00:47:09   pressure that [TS]

00:47:10   yeah they were the dogs of the Czar's [TS]

00:47:12   and they were bred to [TS]

00:47:14   to hunt wolves and they would work as a [TS]

00:47:17   team so up three boys would approach a [TS]

00:47:21   wolf and at it I don't know if you ever [TS]

00:47:23   seen a wolf up close what wolves do not [TS]

00:47:26   like to be approached [TS]

00:47:28   lets say by anything will do the [TS]

00:47:30   approaching in this case the boards [TS]

00:47:32   which are huge dogs a proper borzoi you [TS]

00:47:35   know stands three and a half feet tall [TS]

00:47:37   there there like at the at the shoulder [TS]

00:47:39   you don't like God look at the size of a [TS]

00:47:41   Schnauzer it's big [TS]

00:47:43   they're like and they can they can run [TS]

00:47:46   in bursts up to like 50 miles an hour [TS]

00:47:48   and so three of these dogs would would [TS]

00:47:51   would come up on a wall somewhere some [TS]

00:47:53   other way more than a hundred pounds her [TS]

00:47:55   massive I thought these were a little [TS]

00:47:57   skinny motherfuckers don't Gibson has [TS]

00:47:58   been some of some of this has been bred [TS]

00:48:00   out of him get the the closest thing [TS]

00:48:02   that Gibson has ever seen to a wolf is a [TS]

00:48:05   is a very wolf-like squirrel but the [TS]

00:48:10   real boards like my mom used to breed [TS]

00:48:12   boards and she lived out in that she [TS]

00:48:13   lived out in Kitsap County here in [TS]

00:48:15   Washington which is basically like you [TS]

00:48:16   have to take a ferry and and then you [TS]

00:48:19   are living in the forest [TS]

00:48:20   you're living in the trees where [TS]

00:48:22   sasquatches come and and want to borrow [TS]

00:48:25   a cup of sugar but she said she had [TS]

00:48:30   these pores and her the queen of her [TS]

00:48:32   boys I pack was a dog named anushka and [TS]

00:48:36   they would drive down these long country [TS]

00:48:38   roads out in the forests there and there [TS]

00:48:41   was a person who had a wolf hybrid this [TS]

00:48:45   is in the sixties and she said the first [TS]

00:48:47   time that this when this person first [TS]

00:48:50   got the wolf they turned a corner on [TS]

00:48:52   this long country road still deep in the [TS]

00:48:55   forest about a half a mile from this [TS]

00:48:57   person's house and manisha set up in the [TS]

00:48:59   back seat of the car and started howling [TS]

00:49:02   and it wasn't the first time the first [TS]

00:49:05   time it was the spookiest sound my mom [TS]

00:49:08   said the spooky sound that she'd ever [TS]

00:49:09   heard and she didn't know that the wolf [TS]

00:49:12   was there yet she only found out like a [TS]

00:49:14   week later that this guy hadn't owned a [TS]

00:49:16   wolf now and Minister howl for like 45 [TS]

00:49:20   minutes [TS]

00:49:21   same as they drove just with the with [TS]

00:49:24   this prehistoric knowledge that her prey [TS]

00:49:27   had a in her that she had never in her [TS]

00:49:31   life smell the wolf and now she smelled [TS]

00:49:34   one and she knew something [TS]

00:49:35   isn't that interesting is so we sit [TS]

00:49:37   around wondering about crows and ravens [TS]

00:49:38   talking behind our backs right but [TS]

00:49:41   you're telling me that this is a dog [TS]

00:49:42   that it was completely unprompted that [TS]

00:49:45   duck popped up except it was a wolf [TS]

00:49:47   it was a wolf and the way they wish they [TS]

00:49:48   would hunt wolves is that the the three [TS]

00:49:51   dogs would get on the so the wolf [TS]

00:49:52   obviously is moving as fast as they can [TS]

00:49:54   and these three dogs are right on its [TS]

00:49:56   tail and it's kinda scary though is it [TS]

00:49:58   scared the Wolfhound the wolf the wolf [TS]

00:50:00   knows that the wolf found that this is [TS]

00:50:02   what's coming for it you know yes the [TS]

00:50:04   wolf is scared because behind the [TS]

00:50:06   Wolfhound is the freaking czar and 400 [TS]

00:50:10   people on horseback all carrying [TS]

00:50:12   blunderbusses and it's a bad scene there [TS]

00:50:16   they are blowing on trumpets like the [TS]

00:50:18   wolf is was not into this from the [TS]

00:50:20   beginning and then when he sees these [TS]

00:50:21   Wolfhounds he knows or she knows this is [TS]

00:50:24   a bad deal [TS]

00:50:25   oh so the first Wolfhound is trained to [TS]

00:50:28   grab the wolf's front paws like so the [TS]

00:50:33   foot of the first dog gets in alongside [TS]

00:50:34   of the wolf and two latches onto its [TS]

00:50:38   front paws trippin it where the second [TS]

00:50:41   was found then can grab onto one of the [TS]

00:50:44   Wolves hind paws spinning it this is all [TS]

00:50:48   happening at 40 miles an hour it's been [TS]

00:50:51   really don't have to have a white board [TS]

00:50:52   meeting about this they just this is [TS]

00:50:54   what they do they know what their job is [TS]

00:50:56   and then the third one gets the wolf by [TS]

00:50:58   the neck and they hold it for the Tsar [TS]

00:51:02   whoa [TS]

00:51:04   and they are been meant to do it they're [TS]

00:51:06   just this is how they this is why they [TS]

00:51:08   live and i have one of these dogs I grew [TS]

00:51:11   up with these dogs and they are bananas [TS]

00:51:14   they are absolutely bonkers [TS]

00:51:16   because let me that need i say there are [TS]

00:51:20   these skills are not called into daily [TS]

00:51:23   action right we do not I do not have a [TS]

00:51:25   way to activate this power in my [TS]

00:51:28   thoughts because we I'd i'm not on [TS]

00:51:30   horseback [TS]

00:51:31   I i do have a blunderbuss but it's not [TS]

00:51:33   useful in the city [TS]

00:51:34   and I you know we're not hunting wolves [TS]

00:51:37   so here this dog has all these powers [TS]

00:51:38   these incredible powers and it's just [TS]

00:51:41   like sorry you want to go for a walk [TS]

00:51:44   down to the playground and I and chase a [TS]

00:51:46   tennis ball is that cool with you or is [TS]

00:51:49   that and that is that gonna be enough [TS]

00:51:51   today [TS]

00:51:52   one time I was I was I I went through a [TS]

00:51:54   phase where i was riding bicycles and [TS]

00:51:56   because it was a thing that you could do [TS]

00:51:58   with girls you know I mean let's go for [TS]

00:52:00   a bike ride [TS]

00:52:01   oh that sounds fun and then we would [TS]

00:52:03   ride around Seattle which is a city of [TS]

00:52:05   ten thousand hills but I took Gibson [TS]

00:52:08   with this one time took him off the [TS]

00:52:09   leash and it was three o'clock in the [TS]

00:52:11   morning we were going on a bike ride and [TS]

00:52:13   we wrote around town we probably road i [TS]

00:52:17   don't know how many miles we went on [TS]

00:52:18   this bike ride and Gibson ran alongside [TS]

00:52:21   us absolutely as fast as we could panel [TS]

00:52:24   he ran alongside us with this look on [TS]

00:52:26   his face like come on are we going to [TS]

00:52:28   really like kicking in now are you gonna [TS]

00:52:29   kick it into gear we gotta run is this [TS]

00:52:32   and he he kept having this [TS]

00:52:33   disappointment like this is it right [TS]

00:52:35   this is as fast as you can go [TS]

00:52:37   I like your I see what you're saying so [TS]

00:52:39   ege you you have really pushed him to [TS]

00:52:42   his limit in the way that he's looking [TS]

00:52:43   for their there it was impossible if I [TS]

00:52:45   hadn't wanted to go from a canter to [TS]

00:52:47   like a gallop or something like yeah he [TS]

00:52:49   was just trotting alongside us as we're [TS]

00:52:51   barreling down these hills with this you [TS]

00:52:54   know look on his face like well this is [TS]

00:52:55   fun [TS]

00:52:56   this is new but also he is not is not [TS]

00:52:59   being used is underused as the great [TS]

00:53:02   pavement might have it and if i had if I [TS]

00:53:07   had a group of people with motorcycles [TS]

00:53:09   maybe we could have maybe we could have [TS]

00:53:12   like given Gibson a true opportunity to [TS]

00:53:15   two catches in her like uses wings [TS]

00:53:20   person here anyway so so Gibson in it [TS]

00:53:24   and he gets gets gets five walks a day I [TS]

00:53:26   mean he is not as far as dogs go [TS]

00:53:29   he's living the life of Riley but he has [TS]

00:53:31   all this doggy anhui because he's [TS]

00:53:33   dreaming of wolves and there are no [TS]

00:53:36   wolves ik that's horrible [TS]

00:53:40   well I matters let your mom your mom [TS]

00:53:42   does take him out said is true of every [TS]

00:53:44   dog [TS]

00:53:44   yeah yeah sometimes it's easier than [TS]

00:53:47   others i mean let again with the Chinese [TS]

00:53:48   these apartments saying but they are [TS]

00:53:50   they bred some serious lap dogs and some [TS]

00:53:53   fighting dogs right and it was a little [TS]

00:53:55   dogs those lap dogs are all meant to [TS]

00:53:57   guard temples right their job they make [TS]

00:54:00   that terrible yap yap yap sound because [TS]

00:54:02   their job is to wake everybody up when [TS]

00:54:04   the barbarians are at the gates you know [TS]

00:54:07   there they weren't there [TS]

00:54:08   I mean sure they're meant to like [TS]

00:54:09   disguise your boner while you're sitting [TS]

00:54:12   in a chair let's duck this it's job is [TS]

00:54:16   like what a folder i got a boner hiding [TS]

00:54:20   dog would be so handy [TS]

00:54:22   it's got a boner Genesis they're not [TS]

00:54:23   like that just then you just petting the [TS]

00:54:25   dog and you're like hello welcome and [TS]

00:54:28   you're petting the dog but really yeah [TS]

00:54:30   it's just the dog is just watching [TS]

00:54:32   you're watching the mate pick up a brush [TS]

00:54:34   yeah it's just a thin sort of like [TS]

00:54:36   carpet between you and the bomb but I [TS]

00:54:39   feel like this is true of people to know [TS]

00:54:41   person we did not evolve for 10,000 [TS]

00:54:44   years so that you can be so that you can [TS]

00:54:47   work in a best buy [TS]

00:54:49   have you ever been to a best buy i have [TS]

00:54:52   to walk through the aisles and since [TS]

00:54:55   there's no dock so there's all these [TS]

00:54:56   twenty-three-year-old salespeople and [TS]

00:54:58   every one of them is thinking I was bred [TS]

00:55:00   to chase wolves may I help you find a [TS]

00:55:05   quarter-inch 28 inch adapter up and it's [TS]

00:55:10   like yeah you were bred to catch wolves [TS]

00:55:11   but in fact I do need you to help me [TS]

00:55:15   find a quarter-inch 28 inch adapter and [TS]

00:55:18   they shuffle off and they try and make a [TS]

00:55:20   joke with you they try and make common [TS]

00:55:23   cause with you and they're they're [TS]

00:55:24   screaming behind their smiles like get [TS]

00:55:26   me out of here please please i will work [TS]

00:55:28   as your cabin boy i will be your slave [TS]

00:55:31   do whatever it I don't care [TS]

00:55:34   please just get me out of this best buy [TS]

00:55:35   and you helped me feel alive get me back [TS]

00:55:37   to my atavistic duck chasing nature [TS]

00:55:39   that's right let me be let me be the [TS]

00:55:42   person that is here you know let me be [TS]

00:55:44   your assistant who just coils your [TS]

00:55:45   cables and and touches 9-volt batteries [TS]

00:55:49   to to his tongue to see if they have any [TS]

00:55:50   charge left in them i'll be that person [TS]

00:55:52   for you and I'm like I just need a [TS]

00:55:54   quarter and two inch adapter dude thanks [TS]

00:55:56   though [TS]

00:55:57   room take it easy Sally Field your bro [TS]

00:56:00   see you later bro peace out and they're [TS]

00:56:02   there and I walk out the door and I am [TS]

00:56:04   going out literally to hunt wolves at [TS]

00:56:08   bay our lives here with you capable with [TS]

00:56:10   my new cable and they are adjusting [TS]

00:56:12   their name tag and they're just like you [TS]

00:56:14   shouldn't that just saying they should [TS]

00:56:15   really pick up the monster cables and [TS]

00:56:17   you should get the replacement insurance [TS]

00:56:18   you have to get hdmi you want to make [TS]

00:56:21   sure you get a digital HD and you know [TS]

00:56:22   what these have a lifetime guarantee [TS]

00:56:24   and so you know what I have here in my [TS]

00:56:26   house I have like three milk crates full [TS]

00:56:29   of cables that don't work anymore that [TS]

00:56:31   have a lifetime guarantee that i keep [TS]

00:56:32   meaning to take down to guitar center [TS]

00:56:33   and dumping on there on that you know [TS]

00:56:36   the right inside the sliding door like [TS]

00:56:39   some just gonna walk in and just dump [TS]

00:56:41   this pile of dead cables be like [TS]

00:56:43   lifetime guarantee my that's what you [TS]

00:56:45   said when i bought these I want 650 [TS]

00:56:49   dollars with a new cable in and they'll [TS]

00:56:50   say contact the manufacturer don't get [TS]

00:56:52   well you exactly that's exactly what [TS]

00:56:54   those see how this is where I think cats [TS]

00:56:55   are interesting and I'm not I'm not I'm [TS]

00:56:57   not a big cat person but I'm not anymore [TS]

00:57:00   i'm not really a big dog person I don't [TS]

00:57:02   not a big person but uh so the person [TS]

00:57:05   who first you have a daughter now you [TS]

00:57:07   have you don't need you don't need a [TS]

00:57:08   proxy daughter you have a you have an [TS]

00:57:11   actual daughter yeah I married a model I [TS]

00:57:12   don't need to magazine but listen i'm [TS]

00:57:14   not going to say that having a pet is [TS]

00:57:15   like having a child that's a terrible [TS]

00:57:18   thing to say that please send your [TS]

00:57:20   letters to Merlin yeah i'm using this [TS]

00:57:24   John Roderick address for that now the [TS]

00:57:27   cats now you ever you ever fuck with the [TS]

00:57:29   cat-like with a laser pointer your you [TS]

00:57:32   put a hot dog on a string on a ceiling [TS]

00:57:33   fan i have fucked with cats in more ways [TS]

00:57:36   than I can say there's so many ways [TS]

00:57:39   because the the cats are just smart [TS]

00:57:40   enough to be really we can really fuck [TS]

00:57:43   with them [TS]

00:57:44   have you ever put scotch tape around the [TS]

00:57:46   cat's paws I have not [TS]

00:57:48   what does it do well also a cat stand [TS]

00:57:51   that and also a sense you know it when [TS]

00:57:52   it's spreading its paws and making [TS]

00:57:53   biscuits on you it's that's part of how [TS]

00:57:55   it gets its scent on your right is its [TS]

00:57:57   it is not part of it i didn't know that [TS]

00:57:59   you had can make biscuits on you have [TS]

00:58:01   many many times group but a cat stands [TS]

00:58:04   by spreading its paws right it it its [TS]

00:58:06   weight is it is already to find it [TS]

00:58:09   this way to spread by spreading its Bob [TS]

00:58:11   so if you tape a cat's paws it didn't [TS]

00:58:15   and you put it down on the floor it [TS]

00:58:18   dances and hops on it little stops it [TS]

00:58:22   can't spread it [TS]

00:58:23   told ya so don't do this don't do that [TS]

00:58:26   so wrong [TS]

00:58:28   terrible thing I was know if you have a [TS]

00:58:29   retriever don't give it a tablespoon of [TS]

00:58:31   peanut butter [TS]

00:58:32   whatever you do never seen a dog in a [TS]

00:58:34   tablespoon of peanut butter [TS]

00:58:35   you know what's the thing that you don't [TS]

00:58:38   think it's something that they do [TS]

00:58:39   naturally they fill those little Kong's [TS]

00:58:42   those little dog toys that yeah it's [TS]

00:58:44   still them fill them with peanut butter [TS]

00:58:45   to to drive dogs crazy to you know they [TS]

00:58:49   think it's like all she loves it [TS]

00:58:50   occupies your mind it's like that so [TS]

00:58:52   yeah it's like get my whole at it [TS]

00:58:55   occupies your mind but yeah it turns her [TS]

00:58:57   mind into us into a hot coal but it's [TS]

00:59:00   like I don't get in there are getting [TS]

00:59:02   there at eight tape on my cat's-paws a [TS]

00:59:05   little bit like bouncy seat if you did [TS]

00:59:07   that for 200 years and kept getting the [TS]

00:59:10   ones that dance funnier and funnier [TS]

00:59:12   eventually would need the tape [TS]

00:59:14   yeah I'm surprised the Chinese have not [TS]

00:59:16   made dancing cats but it's a place in [TS]

00:59:20   China where they have they have dancing [TS]

00:59:22   cats that don't have told these are just [TS]

00:59:24   the cats that we've seen that made it [TS]

00:59:25   over here you know the Chinese are you [TS]

00:59:27   know in a lot of Asia they do some [TS]

00:59:28   pretty awful things [TS]

00:59:29   it's a big country China Lake rolling on [TS]

00:59:32   me a lot of tape [TS]

00:59:34   yeah so anyway taking your cat's paws [TS]

00:59:36   terrible thing to do [TS]

00:59:37   yeah I had a friend i was at his house [TS]

00:59:39   one time and a cat walked past him and [TS]

00:59:42   he grabbed the cap it we were sitting on [TS]

00:59:45   beanbag chairs [TS]

00:59:46   he grabbed the cat and was holding out [TS]

00:59:47   with one hand while he unzipped the [TS]

00:59:49   beanbag chair with the other hand and [TS]

00:59:51   threw the cabins Ida feedback turns out [TS]

00:59:52   about funny and it's terrible that came [TS]

00:59:56   out of the beanbag chair five minutes [TS]

00:59:57   later absolutely covered with bean [TS]

00:59:57   later absolutely covered with bean [TS]

01:00:00   oh the styrofoam will start falling so [TS]

01:00:02   John this is often like seven ways that [TS]

01:00:04   was terrible but again we were like the [TS]

01:00:06   time but I can't believe that we're [TS]

01:00:08   talking about animal torture on this [TS]

01:00:09   because it's a terrible thing and I [TS]

01:00:10   don't I highly don't this brings us back [TS]

01:00:12   around because i was i was 12 years old [TS]

01:00:14   and I mean I didn't end up becoming a [TS]

01:00:15   serial killer in other words mean I was [TS]

01:00:17   just I was just watching understand [TS]

01:00:19   music for steamboat willie was arranged [TS]

01:00:21   by 14 Jackson and includes the song [TS]

01:00:23   steamboat bill in 1911 arthur collins [TS]

01:00:25   composition and turkey in the straw the [TS]

01:00:27   title of the film is a parody of the [TS]

01:00:29   buster keaton film steamboat bill jr. [TS]

01:00:31   next paragraph well film has received [TS]

01:00:33   some criticism due to humorous depiction [TS]

01:00:36   of Cruelty to Animals oh I guess I guess [TS]

01:00:40   that's when he Spitz picturing the back [TS]

01:00:41   on Mickey Mouse what does he do makes [TS]

01:00:43   the ring a bell i'm looking at one [TS]

01:00:44   picture here trying to figure out what [TS]

01:00:45   the whole show is it still will you [TS]

01:00:48   he doesn't Steamboat Willie dance that's [TS]

01:00:50   as far as I've gotten [TS]

01:00:51   I you know I got to tell you something [TS]

01:00:53   I'm a big fan of turkey in the straw [TS]

01:00:56   that's a hell of a tune it is it in [TS]

01:00:58   turkey in the straw has more melodic [TS]

01:01:00   complexity and ninety-eight percent of [TS]

01:01:02   modern Mexican pop music I yeah well as [TS]

01:01:12   long as we're going paintballing yeah [TS]

01:01:14   mymy like that i think i know that you [TS]

01:01:16   talk about the kind with the really like [TS]

01:01:17   over compressed trumpets that people say [TS]

01:01:21   that I am i will call taqueria music and [TS]

01:01:24   i think its own pop music is its German [TS]

01:01:27   but it's also but it's got these awesome [TS]

01:01:29   to have these awesome snare Phil's to [TS]

01:01:32   that are almost like you know like the [TS]

01:01:33   only good part of Scott songs is the end [TS]

01:01:35   and this end the drum fills I didn't [TS]

01:01:38   know there was an awesome part of scarce [TS]

01:01:40   on what we're starting the problem is [TS]

01:01:41   muscat songs never and they might as [TS]

01:01:43   well go on forever but you know I risk [TS]

01:01:44   US Consul starts like this right [TS]

01:01:49   haha not just me in the bathroom that [TS]

01:01:50   doesn't doesn't doesn't Bend 244 [TS]

01:01:54   the dude qasim so like anyone that's [TS]

01:01:57   right that's what this house is like [TS]

01:01:58   it's like I hope is that these great [TS]

01:02:03   little snare Phil's I know personally I [TS]

01:02:06   like listening to that station [TS]

01:02:08   it's a studio that's all it was over I [TS]

01:02:11   like a studio a stereo soul [TS]

01:02:13   it makes my wife lose her mind you know [TS]

01:02:16   that some people you ever seen people [TS]

01:02:17   looking really visceral reaction of [TS]

01:02:18   bluegrass like I really liked bluegrass [TS]

01:02:21   but people have a visible visceral [TS]

01:02:23   reaction negative reaction to bluegrass [TS]

01:02:25   are not like I'm he's kind of like that [TS]

01:02:27   with reggae I have to be honest that's a [TS]

01:02:30   good that's insane that's the craziest [TS]

01:02:31   thing you've ever said or a great reggae [TS]

01:02:34   music mun ja rock the fire i told him i [TS]

01:02:40   raced all right but I yeah I don't need [TS]

01:02:44   to hear it again [TS]

01:02:45   that is amazing music and talking about [TS]

01:02:48   Peter Tosh it's been polluted by the [TS]

01:02:50   bros I just a whole legend legend like [TS]

01:02:54   ruined everything [TS]

01:02:56   Bob Marley was so cool like I had a copy [TS]

01:02:57   of burn in and I had a copy of like his [TS]

01:03:01   first few that good records would Peter [TS]

01:03:02   Tosh when there was a good band and then [TS]

01:03:04   and then like everybody in my fucking [TS]

01:03:06   college had like three copies of legend [TS]

01:03:08   I know I know and just went on and on [TS]

01:03:10   and on [TS]

01:03:12   I told you what happened to me and kind [TS]

01:03:13   of business soundtrack for eating [TS]

01:03:15   outside know kind of blue really [TS]

01:03:17   identical to the story now it's a [TS]

01:03:19   durable record i worked at the shop [TS]

01:03:21   oh dear and there were there were well [TS]

01:03:24   about six or seven employees and we we [TS]

01:03:27   all could play our own music and listen [TS]

01:03:29   to stuff and then one day one of the [TS]

01:03:34   employees played a record and had above [TS]

01:03:38   the word crap in it or something [TS]

01:03:41   the singer said I'm not taking any more [TS]

01:03:43   crap sounds like the Eagles think the [TS]

01:03:46   Eagles use the word crap so watch [TS]

01:03:48   introduce crap to the Eagles well [TS]

01:03:50   there's plenty of crap and eagles before [TS]

01:03:52   he arrived but i think he brought the [TS]

01:03:53   lower to that it's made of crap can you [TS]

01:03:55   not to get me started on Don Henley get [TS]

01:03:56   some somehow the Eagles like just as you [TS]

01:03:59   would take a just as you take a giant [TS]

01:04:02   square of butter and carve an elephant [TS]

01:04:07   of the butter so that it could sit in [TS]

01:04:09   the middle of the buffet on a cruise [TS]

01:04:11   ship was carved an elephant kind of a [TS]

01:04:14   block crap you think how do you think [TS]

01:04:18   that's true glenn frey old-school glenn [TS]

01:04:21   frey you don't like you don't like the [TS]

01:04:22   old glenn frey not my advice coming fri [TS]

01:04:25   you don't like all going fri some models [TS]

01:04:27   blue no don't listen [TS]

01:04:29   oh can I just mention can mention your [TS]

01:04:31   buddy you're going to Walsh know your [TS]

01:04:34   other buddy the one you're so you're so [TS]

01:04:35   gay married for is still Collins [TS]

01:04:37   appeared in an episode of Miami Vice who [TS]

01:04:39   I know I know the full Phil Collins [TS]

01:04:41   Miami Vice connection conscious or so in [TS]

01:04:44   denial but yeah but I don't like that [TS]

01:04:47   stick to kill sunrise you don't want to [TS]

01:04:48   California I am NOT an eagles hater I I [TS]

01:04:53   you know I gotta say there's something [TS]

01:04:54   not know so [TS]

01:04:55   ok can I like the I like the Eagles very [TS]

01:04:57   much but that they're at their heart [TS]

01:04:59   it's the same problem with Clapton at [TS]

01:05:01   the heart of the Eagles there is nothing [TS]

01:05:04   but cocaine in vegas for in this there's [TS]

01:05:10   no soul [TS]

01:05:11   yeah to the Eagles i love that I love [TS]

01:05:14   the music but it's not like it would [TS]

01:05:15   matter you like Fleetwood Mac right I do [TS]

01:05:17   because at the heart of Fleetwood Mac [TS]

01:05:19   there's intense suffering it but yes [TS]

01:05:22   it's cocaine and a rhythm section [TS]

01:05:23   cocaine intense suffering a guy who [TS]

01:05:26   could you fucking pull-offs like a [TS]

01:05:27   motherfucker and some like older british [TS]

01:05:30   dude yes who are looking at the back end [TS]

01:05:33   of stevie nicks every night and that's [TS]

01:05:36   gonna do a thing to a guy who we should [TS]

01:05:39   table that 1i I gotta tell you I think [TS]

01:05:41   pull-offs might be my duck [TS]

01:05:43   mm really mm I like a pull-off i really [TS]

01:05:46   like it could pull off he would Jimmy [TS]

01:05:47   Page that they're being sloppy I like me [TS]

01:05:49   a pull-off I was that anybody can hammer [TS]

01:05:51   on it's like triceps vs biceps and I'm [TS]

01:05:54   saying like pull offs are the triceps of [TS]

01:05:56   guitar I was a guitar store the other [TS]

01:05:58   day and I guys walking by a gyno and I'm [TS]

01:06:01   sitting there playing guitar and as you [TS]

01:06:02   walked past I'm like hey I teach me a [TS]

01:06:05   lick and he's like what I'm I was just [TS]

01:06:08   heading out of here and I was like I [TS]

01:06:08   know you two seconds teach me lick and I [TS]

01:06:12   say this two guitar players all the time [TS]

01:06:14   teach me like tonight's ninety-nine [TS]

01:06:16   percent of the time they're like yeah [TS]

01:06:17   yeah whatever and and and they don't [TS]

01:06:20   teach me a little [TS]

01:06:21   and I'm and I'm always surprised at this [TS]

01:06:24   like if somebody said to me teach me [TS]

01:06:25   lick i do here is like crap to put her [TS]

01:06:27   I'd play them something turkey in the [TS]

01:06:29   straw they just cancelled out and get [TS]

01:06:32   drunk [TS]

01:06:32   ok no wait no that's the Arkansas some [TS]

01:06:34   water was stroking strong wait wait i'm [TS]

01:06:36   confused you just said that you love [TS]

01:06:38   turkey knowingly but now I'm having a [TS]

01:06:39   stroke and I asked you started singing [TS]

01:06:41   the Arkansas traveler whatever forget [TS]

01:06:43   mr. goes boom boom boom [TS]

01:06:47   what's the two-part talk but it might [TS]

01:06:51   happen on thumping thump thump thump [TS]

01:06:54   I don't wanna wait a minute i got a lot [TS]

01:06:57   of the subject ideology I'm sorry [TS]

01:06:59   doesn't get around this guy stopped and [TS]

01:07:01   spent 30 seconds teaching the liq [TS]

01:07:04   teaching you could not just a lick [TS]

01:07:06   teaching me a concept that I've been I [TS]

01:07:09   I'm sitting with my guitar all day [TS]

01:07:11   trying to figure this thing out [TS]

01:07:12   now that's a gift you can give another [TS]

01:07:13   person and it involves some involve some [TS]

01:07:16   pull-offs some hammers own and suppose [TS]

01:07:18   I'm not saying you're nehio offshore Don [TS]

01:07:22   Felder but you know what i mean embrace [TS]

01:07:24   a toddler that song you know he's fine [TS]

01:07:26   but you know that I was that shape song [TS]

01:07:29   sound like haircut 100 but i really like [TS]

01:07:31   your little pull-off thing that I have [TS]

01:07:32   no idea how you play that song live and [TS]

01:07:34   sing I think it's really weird like a [TS]

01:07:36   lot of things when I tried to play and I [TS]

01:07:38   think I probably just sitting here and I [TS]

01:07:39   think it's hard isn't that what you [TS]

01:07:41   learn it must be not as hard in every [TS]

01:07:43   area cycle star player [TS]

01:07:45   yeah that's right once you learn it it [TS]

01:07:46   just keep going to get a guitar nearby [TS]

01:07:48   key player for me once you once you are [TS]

01:07:52   lead singer and lead guitarist on a [TS]

01:07:54   thing you learned that you're giving you [TS]

01:07:58   have to give yourself a lobotomy so it [TS]

01:07:59   goes it is it e ne can you hear that [TS]

01:08:05   totally can start started here [TS]

01:08:06   shut up different again [TS]

01:08:10   that's fucking insane [TS]

01:08:19   yeah well since you're like you're like [TS]

01:08:20   an autograph that's amazing i'm like an [TS]

01:08:24   autograph [TS]

01:08:24   I know how to play that solo the [TS]

01:08:26   forefinger and you know I know that when [TS]

01:08:28   I learned from guitar for the practices [TS]

01:08:29   that see now that that's me is like a [TS]

01:08:32   hotel california you will be a little [TS]

01:08:35   dirt do now [TS]

01:08:36   down I used to love that you know the [TS]

01:08:38   paper due date to pay duty to do baby [TS]

01:08:42   duty to be a little bit [TS]

01:08:44   oh you have a solo but that's a that's a [TS]

01:08:46   kind of pull off it's not exactly like a [TS]

01:08:48   on end of stairway to heaven [TS]

01:08:51   solo pull off but it's a thing when i [TS]

01:08:53   play that song if I am looking out at [TS]

01:08:55   the audience and I make eye contact with [TS]

01:08:57   annual then all of the music in my head [TS]

01:09:00   goes away i have i have really screwed [TS]

01:09:03   the pooch on that Thun a couple of times [TS]

01:09:04   because i don't want to get lost [TS]

01:09:07   well i'll be looking around and it's not [TS]

01:09:09   a song that I can really be looking [TS]

01:09:10   around but i'll be looking around and [TS]

01:09:11   somehow make eye contact with a girl and [TS]

01:09:13   she'll go link and i'll go haha [TS]

01:09:17   and then the the ability to play the [TS]

01:09:19   song leaves my hand will also i can I [TS]

01:09:21   don't know anything about music but also [TS]

01:09:23   the singing is very syncopated but [TS]

01:09:27   you're singing a real different rhythm [TS]

01:09:29   right within that thing you're you're [TS]

01:09:31   you're kind of doing some kind of [TS]

01:09:32   what's-his-name stanley clarke stanley [TS]

01:09:34   jordan is the aluminum guitar what's his [TS]

01:09:36   name is Steven guitar guy you're not [TS]

01:09:41   seeing a journey it's still building [TS]

01:09:42   I stanley clarke the bald one Stanley [TS]

01:09:45   always because joe satriani no such [TS]

01:09:47   Rihanna guitar and then the other thing [TS]

01:09:50   was cats crap out cat scratch fever [TS]

01:09:52   you're going to say about the plane crap [TS]

01:09:54   so what was the record that they played [TS]

01:09:56   when they discovered the craftsmen song [TS]

01:09:57   also here's the thing yeah so somebody [TS]

01:09:59   said crap in a song and and actually the [TS]

01:10:04   employee who was playing the music was a [TS]

01:10:08   dreadlocked gentlemen [TS]

01:10:10   ok [TS]

01:10:11   and so I have no reason to think that it [TS]

01:10:13   wasn't fishbone that he was playing and [TS]

01:10:18   and so some customer i kid you not and [TS]

01:10:22   this was a this is the magazine store [TS]

01:10:24   where we had magazines about a like [TS]

01:10:29   naked motorcycle gangs we had magazines [TS]

01:10:31   about like like a long pigs which itself [TS]

01:10:36   is presently just sell grandpa it we [TS]

01:10:39   sell we sold grant so we SAT with a [TS]

01:10:41   tradition that was like grant a customer [TS]

01:10:44   this customer complained not to the [TS]

01:10:47   person with dreadlocks who was working [TS]

01:10:48   at the counter but they wrote a letter [TS]

01:10:51   to the manager saying your dreadlocked [TS]

01:10:54   employee played a song that said the [TS]

01:10:58   word crap in it and although the owner [TS]

01:11:01   of the store was like your your I i [TS]

01:11:04   should have said although the owner of [TS]

01:11:06   the store was a West Coast liberal like [TS]

01:11:10   do-gooder magazine guy and rather than [TS]

01:11:13   say to the employees [TS]

01:11:17   hey uh you know set a customer [TS]

01:11:19   complained about the word crap and so [TS]

01:11:21   you gotta not play songs that have the [TS]

01:11:24   word crap in it or rather than say to [TS]

01:11:26   the employees hot [TS]

01:11:27   get a load of this year there's this [TS]

01:11:29   letter I got from some asshole you know [TS]

01:11:31   like somebody that objects to the music [TS]

01:11:34   that's being played in a store like [TS]

01:11:35   really fuck you actually just [TS]

01:11:37   straight-up fuck you [TS]

01:11:39   but instead of doing that the owner said [TS]

01:11:40   okay well obviously I can't trust you [TS]

01:11:42   guys to play music that doesn't have [TS]

01:11:44   swear words in it so I'm going to pick [TS]

01:11:47   the music from the wall but dick and [TS]

01:11:50   heap it's just this is just as he had to [TS]

01:11:52   be there all day [TS]

01:11:53   he's the no he doesn't and he's the busy [TS]

01:11:55   busy just say show a little show a [TS]

01:11:57   little bit of decorum and [TS]

01:11:59   responsibilities and please don't play [TS]

01:12:01   stuff that's good don't playlist special [TS]

01:12:02   playthings loud they're going to make it [TS]

01:12:04   that's the main thing is don't play loud [TS]

01:12:06   so what this guy does he he selects you [TS]

01:12:09   know five CDs that are acceptable work [TS]

01:12:12   because it and one of them is kind of [TS]

01:12:15   blue and one of them is a Herb Alpert & [TS]

01:12:19   the Tijuana brass and one of them is I [TS]

01:12:21   don't know what they are there is a [TS]

01:12:22   selection of of modern jazz instrumental [TS]

01:12:25   music tho instrumental music and jazz [TS]

01:12:28   music that's not going to hurt anybody's [TS]

01:12:29   feelings even though when this music [TS]

01:12:31   came out it made everyone that heard the [TS]

01:12:34   record you know like it [TS]

01:12:35   the it's like a coal train record that [TS]

01:12:37   literally caused people to become [TS]

01:12:39   junkies on the spot at the time but but [TS]

01:12:43   it in the intervening 40 years it has [TS]

01:12:45   become just background music for people [TS]

01:12:48   think so kind of blue so anyway well let [TS]

01:12:51   me tell you the story kind of blue so so [TS]

01:12:53   we rotated through these 10 cds until [TS]

01:12:56   eventually nobody cared anymore and then [TS]

01:12:58   we didn't have a 10 CD player we just [TS]

01:13:00   had one CD players had to go back and [TS]

01:13:02   change change the CD when it was done [TS]

01:13:05   you know what I mean [TS]

01:13:06   well eventually nobody cared anymore we [TS]

01:13:09   all heard all 10 of these records a [TS]

01:13:10   million times we weren't authorized to [TS]

01:13:12   put 11th record into the mix and kind of [TS]

01:13:15   blue got put into this CD player and [TS]

01:13:19   stayed there for two years and and the [TS]

01:13:24   other thing about the owner was he did [TS]

01:13:25   not want you to not play music you were [TS]

01:13:27   supposed to have music plane and so the [TS]

01:13:30   life one out of everybody that work [TS]

01:13:31   there we just were like whatever kind of [TS]

01:13:33   blue fine and so for basically two years [TS]

01:13:37   every day I would go to work and here it [TS]

01:13:51   became this it became the sound of hate [TS]

01:13:54   to me like I wanted my life I wanted to [TS]

01:13:57   have Miles Davis and his little like [TS]

01:13:59   wiry neck in my hand and I wanted to [TS]

01:14:03   hold him i wanted to hold him underwater [TS]

01:14:05   until he stopped breathing [TS]

01:14:08   I was so mad was the dreadlock guy a [TS]

01:14:10   black man he was [TS]

01:14:11   can you fuckin believe that yeah he said [TS]

01:14:13   he likes of us black music let me play [TS]

01:14:15   some black music that's exactly right [TS]

01:14:17   here's your new black music and so I [TS]

01:14:20   have I could I could sit right now and [TS]

01:14:22   give you like an angry mouth trumpet [TS]

01:14:26   version of every note of kind of blew [TS]

01:14:28   all the way from trying to say that for [TS]

01:14:30   our I should look that as a show as I [TS]

01:14:32   Davis and stuff show [TS]

01:14:34   should book it i should book in a club [TS]

01:14:36   and just stand up there go [TS]

01:14:39   that's actually pretty good now my hair [TS]

01:14:41   is here but you brought out uh I think I [TS]

01:14:48   trigger word security to trigger word [TS]

01:14:50   because i know i'm remembering one [TS]

01:14:52   reason to hate the Eagles was the one I [TS]

01:14:54   was a busboy every night when we close [TS]

01:14:55   the cooktop manager would put on a [TS]

01:14:57   cassette of fucking the long run [TS]

01:15:02   oh you just not its get spawn hits but I [TS]

01:15:05   had to listen to the Greeks don't want [TS]

01:15:07   no freaks every friday and saturday [TS]

01:15:09   night as well as the long run as well as [TS]

01:15:10   heartache tonight but there are a lot of [TS]

01:15:12   better a lot of b-sides there's [TS]

01:15:14   something so much heartache tonight that [TS]

01:15:16   you can take it's a good song that this [TS]

01:15:18   European at this point I'm good here [TS]

01:15:19   heartache tonight once a year [TS]

01:15:21   it's a pretty good song if a friend came [TS]

01:15:23   over to your house and was like hey i [TS]

01:15:24   just wrote a song that he played a song [TS]

01:15:25   and it was hard tonight you'd be like [TS]

01:15:27   wow good job going to great harmonies on [TS]

01:15:29   it but it is not a thing you want to [TS]

01:15:31   hear multiple times I don't think I [TS]

01:15:33   don't think I think once a year is too [TS]

01:15:34   often for me I think heartache tonight [TS]

01:15:36   is a thing that you know if I'm driving [TS]

01:15:38   through if I'm in a different state and [TS]

01:15:41   i'm spending through the channels and [TS]

01:15:43   all I'm hearing is like but like [TS]

01:15:46   christian ministries so many christian [TS]

01:15:48   radio shows [TS]

01:15:49   yeah and then i get hard tonight also [TS]

01:15:50   I'll stop and listen to it right but for [TS]

01:15:53   Springsteen which change it would you [TS]

01:15:55   change back to the minister's well what [TS]

01:15:58   kind of bruce springsteen we're talking [TS]

01:15:59   about pollutants best album is Nebraska [TS]

01:16:01   you only send you a copy [TS]

01:16:04   you don't know what I'm on fire and if i [TS]

01:16:08   come on over come on out I hard drive [TS]

01:16:11   across the country i'll stop us are you [TS]

01:16:13   fucking kidding me [TS]

01:16:14   ah a little baby with you and Joe yeah [TS]

01:16:21   but Rosalee Rosalee it comes on you [TS]

01:16:23   change the channel [TS]

01:16:25   you know what let's move on John nice [TS]

01:16:28   should not surprise us at all that there [TS]

01:16:29   are so few docs in so many people you [TS]

01:16:31   think about all these examples that [TS]

01:16:33   we've given this week there are so many [TS]

01:16:34   occasions where there might be a duck [TS]

01:16:36   and we look the other way and then we [TS]

01:16:38   sit there so you know what happened you [TS]

01:16:39   know a dreadlock i SAT there he had his [TS]

01:16:41   duck and then that guy brought in a [TS]

01:16:43   rubber duck and made a play with it all [TS]

01:16:44   day long [TS]

01:16:45   how fucked up is that he put peanut [TS]

01:16:47   butter in the calm [TS]

01:16:48   [Music] [TS]

01:16:50   get out of the car that's pretty good [TS]

01:16:54   couple minor [TS]