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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 60: "Writ in His Boots"

 

00:00:00   hello hi John more than meant hmm John [TS]

00:00:11   rahner ray [TS]

00:00:14   yeah just improvising now I'm not it's [TS]

00:00:16   jazz tune oh its model [TS]

00:00:19   Yeah right on Runner is not even fridge [TS]

00:00:23   you don't know what that is from the [TS]

00:00:24   olean that was that's Moroccan generally [TS]

00:00:26   set stuff you get on the side of a head [TS]

00:00:28   to the restaurant right [TS]

00:00:29   I thought any only was a girl's nipple [TS]

00:00:31   mmm bop ok i'm just-just introduced the [TS]

00:00:38   meeting the sub-game a Clank ah my [TS]

00:00:45   goddess certainly I apologize it's [TS]

00:00:47   alright i didn't even notice that you [TS]

00:00:49   were late until now [TS]

00:00:50   oh yeah you can hear my kaspersky Oh KFC [TS]

00:00:55   room [TS]

00:00:56   god I can't even when I walked by I hate [TS]

00:00:59   myself even thinking about it [TS]

00:01:01   yeah I think about i think about KFC [TS]

00:01:03   chickens coming through like a hvac tube [TS]

00:01:07   dress just like chicken [TS]

00:01:11   I don't think anything in science color [TS]

00:01:14   electrics loose but I that's what I [TS]

00:01:16   imagined it being passed through imagine [TS]

00:01:18   there's a certain kind of electricity [TS]

00:01:19   that they refined over the years that [TS]

00:01:21   can feed kill d feather [TS]

00:01:24   yeah and then and then I just address [TS]

00:01:27   the birds parts [TS]

00:01:28   yeah it's some kind of Wonka thing where [TS]

00:01:30   there's a fan blades but i'm going to [TS]

00:01:32   hand and Willy Wonka's like going [TS]

00:01:36   through a psychedelic I've been up for a [TS]

00:01:39   live chicken goes in and the fan blade [TS]

00:01:40   deep bones it right but yeah and and [TS]

00:01:44   breads it but you know how it works when [TS]

00:01:46   you take a you know any piece of [TS]

00:01:48   literature including a children's book [TS]

00:01:50   and you have to turn into a movie you [TS]

00:01:52   got up you know have compression editing [TS]

00:01:54   you cut things out there was actually a [TS]

00:01:56   little boy from Florida named Johnny [TS]

00:01:58   chicken [TS]

00:01:59   who's got a golden ticket to [TS]

00:02:01   northeastern North Florida haha gotchu [TS]

00:02:04   account in the book [TS]

00:02:05   this is in the original i'm pretty sure [TS]

00:02:07   was named Roland darling [TS]

00:02:09   roald dahl do-over [TS]

00:02:11   the roald dahl happy if you tried [TS]

00:02:13   reading any of those books to your child [TS]

00:02:16   no my child is pre is pre a literate see [TS]

00:02:21   but actually funny you should say that [TS]

00:02:22   turns out you know that term [TS]

00:02:23   pre-literacy know this is interesting I [TS]

00:02:26   I always felt like a dope for reading to [TS]

00:02:28   my kid right well not a dope but I mean [TS]

00:02:31   I wonder how much was you know getting [TS]

00:02:32   through [TS]

00:02:33   I think that helps in getting her into [TS]

00:02:35   comics distorting her mind but you know [TS]

00:02:37   it's funny I something at the library [TS]

00:02:39   who knows libraries today you know let's [TS]

00:02:41   be honest but there's a thing on there [TS]

00:02:43   is all the steps of what you go through [TS]

00:02:44   and one of the stages is called [TS]

00:02:46   pre-literacy and i was very happy to [TS]

00:02:48   find out that my reading was not for [TS]

00:02:50   naught because be just being around [TS]

00:02:52   books and interacting with books having [TS]

00:02:55   books around turns out can actually help [TS]

00:02:57   your child with their literacy I guess [TS]

00:02:59   it seems obvious in retrospect a library [TS]

00:03:02   would say that if you go to a Kentucky [TS]

00:03:04   Fried Chicken there's a story about pre [TS]

00:03:07   about how you need to introduce your [TS]

00:03:10   child to fried chicken smelly poultry [TS]

00:03:12   ism free poultry pre pre a pre [TS]

00:03:15   masticated chicken teeth land that every [TS]

00:03:18   child is ready for these 11 herbs and [TS]

00:03:20   spices but let's tell you a little bit [TS]

00:03:22   local salon not gonna hurt [TS]

00:03:24   here's what you do you take the spicy [TS]

00:03:25   you spit take the spicy chicken and just [TS]

00:03:27   rub it on your child's top upper lip [TS]

00:03:29   just rub it rub it rub it on the rubber [TS]

00:03:32   on her gums [TS]

00:03:33   I'm sure it's like giving a dog look [TS]

00:03:35   okay it's like giving a dog a tennis [TS]

00:03:37   ball flat tennis ball full of peanut [TS]

00:03:39   butter [TS]

00:03:39   the child will you no will be driven mad [TS]

00:03:42   by this I love giving a dog peanut [TS]

00:03:46   butter and makes my week my dog [TS]

00:03:48   sometimes you get my chewing gum out of [TS]

00:03:50   an ashtray at our house and nothing [TS]

00:03:52   watching so much in that sentence is a [TS]

00:04:00   standalone ashtray right 11 that was [TS]

00:04:02   understandable might have just started I [TS]

00:04:04   just got halfway to a scott walker song [TS]

00:04:06   i think [TS]

00:04:09   oh god um ways records insane but I know [TS]

00:04:14   it's funny that when i go by it is like [TS]

00:04:17   ago we call it a quarter of last resort [TS]

00:04:19   I guess I'm learning a lot about in your [TS]

00:04:23   neighborhood there's a taco bell it well [TS]

00:04:25   it's it is looking friends got Simpson [TS]

00:04:27   has dubbed simply calling it he'll which [TS]

00:04:30   is a KFC / taco bell and your seats a [TS]

00:04:33   hot component to match tonight [TS]

00:04:35   thank Christ there is not a pizza his [TS]

00:04:39   punishment when I was a kid they had a [TS]

00:04:41   good jukebox and it's cool red red cops [TS]

00:04:43   sure their pizza was was second to [TS]

00:04:46   shakeys but still pretty decent my Scout [TS]

00:04:48   troop went there one day and we got to [TS]

00:04:50   take a tour of the pizza hut this is as [TS]

00:04:53   you do in Cincinnati and even then this [TS]

00:04:56   is 19 what may be 76 77 and they had [TS]

00:05:00   eight they made no attempt to hide the [TS]

00:05:02   fact that the dough resided in an [TS]

00:05:05   industrial garbage can with the lid [TS]

00:05:07   right around and they would just just [TS]

00:05:09   stick their pizza hut hands right in [TS]

00:05:10   there and grab ahold dingus of dough [TS]

00:05:13   yeah yeah yeahs either when i got when i [TS]

00:05:15   had the few times i have had occasion to [TS]

00:05:18   have a pizza hut anything in the last 10 [TS]

00:05:20   years when you're traveling now you're [TS]

00:05:22   like your stock that might be honest and [TS]

00:05:23   receive an airport only place you can [TS]

00:05:25   park or yeah exactly get on a plane and [TS]

00:05:28   you get the sense that they have they [TS]

00:05:29   have one of those like a sort of like [TS]

00:05:31   grass seed disseminators or or [TS]

00:05:35   fertilizer be able in one hand you spend [TS]

00:05:37   her with the app but what they're [TS]

00:05:39   putting in the top is like is like a [TS]

00:05:41   government margarine just do you guys [TS]

00:05:47   open for the Circle Jerks one time [TS]

00:05:48   they're just heating up this margarine [TS]

00:05:51   and just like the whole the whole back [TS]

00:05:54   of a pizza has got to be just three [TS]

00:05:56   inches thick of cold clammy like knowing [TS]

00:05:59   that back in the day when you can still [TS]

00:06:00   be a little bit artist anal about a [TS]

00:06:02   chain restaurant like knowing that back [TS]

00:06:04   then I mean can't even imagine I by KFC [TS]

00:06:07   man it's a black salon it is so I [TS]

00:06:09   shouldn't work ping pong but the lady [TS]

00:06:11   who I have no idea how this woman still [TS]

00:06:14   is the manager of this place i won't say [TS]

00:06:16   her name she's like oh she's a very [TS]

00:06:18   plus-size lady african-american lady and [TS]

00:06:21   she is a god damn fucking first-class [TS]

00:06:23   riot because she's she's super loud and [TS]

00:06:27   she's super-mad all the time she's [TS]

00:06:29   yelling at the employees every and you [TS]

00:06:31   know in my neighborhood [TS]

00:06:32   english is the second language including [TS]

00:06:34   the average people and people come in [TS]

00:06:36   there and if they are isn't what you [TS]

00:06:38   have today and and if they are not [TS]

00:06:40   completely ready chapter and verse they [TS]

00:06:42   got another pieces they got to know [TS]

00:06:43   their size they're going to know which [TS]

00:06:44   style do you want original along with no [TS]

00:06:47   AC she read them the riot act and then [TS]

00:06:51   she tells Adam it's and I like her a lot [TS]

00:06:54   and you know she has to deal with that [TS]

00:06:55   chicken guy you know the guy comes to [TS]

00:06:57   eat the chickens but yeah I I every time [TS]

00:07:00   I go in there though I do hate myself [TS]

00:07:04   inexplicably even more than usual and I [TS]

00:07:06   instantly feel transported back to I [TS]

00:07:09   don't know like childhood was not my [TS]

00:07:11   week my weakness my childhood weakness [TS]

00:07:13   fast-food restaurant is arbys ah love [TS]

00:07:17   Darby's yeah I know but our be talking [TS]

00:07:19   about arms when we talk about our peace [TS]

00:07:20   and like liquid beef or there's a [TS]

00:07:23   there's a liquidity problem so explain [TS]

00:07:25   that again now it arrives I'm we [TS]

00:07:26   described it a while back it sounded [TS]

00:07:28   like you know when you go you go by like [TS]

00:07:31   a Thanksgiving turkey and it's this kind [TS]

00:07:33   of avoid thing injection plastic imagine [TS]

00:07:36   it being like that [TS]

00:07:37   yeah well I think what happens at an [TS]

00:07:39   Arby's is that the semi truck backs up [TS]

00:07:41   ma and they unload like 250 of these [TS]

00:07:47   brain shaped since cinder blocks of [TS]

00:07:51   student likea center Center turkey [TS]

00:07:53   shaped blocks of beef that are like the [TS]

00:07:56   they're like the brain of a superbeing [TS]

00:07:58   and then another same color like you [TS]

00:08:00   know kind of like pinkish gray the beef [TS]

00:08:04   pods [TS]

00:08:05   and then the the fashion of their of [TS]

00:08:09   their manufacture at an Arby's is that [TS]

00:08:11   they thin slice this frozen beef and [TS]

00:08:14   then flash fries right so it's super [TS]

00:08:16   thin slicing of this frozen beef brain [TS]

00:08:19   and then flash-fried on some kind of hot [TS]

00:08:21   griddle and that's your RB sandwich and [TS]

00:08:25   I I knew a kid who worked at an Arby's [TS]

00:08:27   and he said that if you left one of [TS]

00:08:30   those frozen beef brains out of the [TS]

00:08:33   freezer that it it was it became a bag [TS]

00:08:38   of meat liquid that it was not actually [TS]

00:08:42   it's not actually because of course [TS]

00:08:44   there is no brain shaped part of a cow [TS]

00:08:47   except its brain [TS]

00:08:48   yeah and it's not as costly that's a [TS]

00:08:50   variety meet yeah this thing is like a [TS]

00:08:52   20-pound thing the 20 pounds of 20 [TS]

00:08:55   bumping that clearly was extruded from [TS]

00:08:58   an old-fashioned cake frosting machine [TS]

00:09:00   like war book and then from an arby's [TS]

00:09:04   pump at but anyway I still when i drive [TS]

00:09:08   past an arby's and the sign out front [TS]

00:09:10   says 5rb sandwiches for five dollars i [TS]

00:09:13   turn into an eleven-year-old and I have [TS]

00:09:16   to go in and I know everything about it [TS]

00:09:18   is wrong and i'm going to be sorry but I [TS]

00:09:23   can't stop myself it is a thing it's a [TS]

00:09:26   thing I like I don't know like from from [TS]

00:09:29   childhood or something you know in [TS]

00:09:31   Hawaii they have figured out a way to [TS]

00:09:33   make spam seem like a cultural like a [TS]

00:09:38   cultural imperative like they have to [TS]

00:09:40   eat spam because it's their culture and [TS]

00:09:42   they have to act like it's good to have [TS]

00:09:44   to act like it's good to have to have [TS]

00:09:45   added have fun with it and put pineapple [TS]

00:09:47   slices on ya and I just feel like I feel [TS]

00:09:51   like arbys is my Hawaiian spam our [TS]

00:09:55   harvest is your Hawaii because I always [TS]

00:09:57   get a little Swiss cheese on it you know [TS]

00:10:00   I don't want to talk about it when I [TS]

00:10:02   couple things first of all like be oh my [TS]

00:10:05   god so disgusting an a I would love to [TS]

00:10:08   know actually you know what i would not [TS]

00:10:10   love to know i would love to not know [TS]

00:10:11   how your friend discovered that is the [TS]

00:10:14   idea of taking a frozen beef avoid and [TS]

00:10:17   letting it get to a point where it [TS]

00:10:18   melts into liquid does not say a lot [TS]

00:10:20   about the QA QC well Harvey's you know [TS]

00:10:24   you know what it's like to work in fast [TS]

00:10:25   food there's not my girlfriend and my [TS]

00:10:27   best friend both worked in arbys in high [TS]

00:10:30   school boys so they know secrets that [TS]

00:10:32   they're not telling us that smell does [TS]

00:10:34   not come off i'm curious you have [TS]

00:10:36   started to do this thing where you say [TS]

00:10:38   you have a short list of things I said [TS]

00:10:40   be the a and you start with B hmm what [TS]

00:10:44   is going on with that i think is right [TS]

00:10:45   now I think this is it seemed like you [TS]

00:10:47   didn't go to a good school [TS]

00:10:48   come on you know which comes first A&B [TS]

00:10:50   yes but are you doing you're trying to [TS]

00:10:54   subvert the dominant paradigm well I [TS]

00:10:56   don't be normative i think yeah I don't [TS]

00:10:59   know it's it's a the greek probably have [TS]

00:11:01   a name for it like Malik syllogism kind [TS]

00:11:04   of things you know those names for [TS]

00:11:05   fermenting syllogism but yeah who maybe [TS]

00:11:08   can ron jeremy [TS]

00:11:09   there's there's a Greek name for almost [TS]

00:11:11   everything that involves oratory [TS]

00:11:15   rhetoric and drama right there's a whole [TS]

00:11:18   awesome wikipedia page of like you know [TS]

00:11:21   I like Oscar Wilde that you know saying [TS]

00:11:23   the only thing worse than being talked [TS]

00:11:25   about is not being talked about there's [TS]

00:11:26   a name for that you connect the key [TS]

00:11:27   metonymy all those kinds of weather just [TS]

00:11:29   like dozens more of those [TS]

00:11:31   yes for the different devices right the [TS]

00:11:34   fallacies the World War fallacies well [TS]

00:11:37   yeah there's the fallacies but there's [TS]

00:11:38   also like the tips and tricks of light [TS]

00:11:40   absorption who you know this is the [TS]

00:11:42   crazy thing about reading the Greeks but [TS]

00:11:46   the crazy and terrible thing which is [TS]

00:11:49   that you realize very quickly that they [TS]

00:11:51   already thought of everything they're [TS]

00:11:53   already as smart as anybody was going to [TS]

00:11:55   get 2,500 years ago and everything we [TS]

00:11:59   think we've invented since then I mean [TS]

00:12:02   sure science [TS]

00:12:03   I mean be like yeah but I mean they make [TS]

00:12:06   maximum like they they fucked every part [TS]

00:12:08   of the Buffalo they took every little [TS]

00:12:10   bit of information that they had access [TS]

00:12:12   to and they they speculated about the [TS]

00:12:15   things they didn't understand but like [TS]

00:12:17   they exhausted every resource for trying [TS]

00:12:20   to figure out the world [TS]

00:12:21   yep I mean I mean you know so long [TS]

00:12:23   before we did it's really dispiriting [TS]

00:12:24   John you think about if you have [TS]

00:12:26   suddenly there was a collapse of [TS]

00:12:28   civilization and electricity was gone I [TS]

00:12:30   I don't know if you ever think about [TS]

00:12:31   this Merlin but if you do twice a day if [TS]

00:12:33   you think God twice in a situation where [TS]

00:12:36   the where the lights go up and we are [TS]

00:12:37   back we are back to just what we have in [TS]

00:12:41   books and we have to we have to rebuild [TS]

00:12:43   civilization we would do such a much [TS]

00:12:45   shittier job than they did even with the [TS]

00:12:48   books that they wrote in our hands [TS]

00:12:50   yeah we would we would do a shittier job [TS]

00:12:53   it would take us five hundred years to [TS]

00:12:55   learn to carve stone we would have to [TS]

00:12:59   start at the beginning we would be we [TS]

00:13:01   would be we would become to start like [TS]

00:13:03   before the beginning because we have to [TS]

00:13:04   unlearn all the shit we learn from [TS]

00:13:06   Gilligan's Island right we would have to [TS]

00:13:08   unweave would have to unlearn touch [TS]

00:13:10   screens and hashtags had get back to you [TS]

00:13:14   know caressing young men in a bath [TS]

00:13:17   yeah which is how people are supposed to [TS]

00:13:19   live is called mentoring it's called [TS]

00:13:21   mentoring thank you [TS]

00:13:23   well okay so not to put too fine a point [TS]

00:13:25   on it but literally this might be the [TS]

00:13:28   only bee in your bonnet who make a [TS]

00:13:30   little birdhouse odd that is Norman [TS]

00:13:32   all-time favorites I know if people [TS]

00:13:33   don't understand how important as long [TS]

00:13:36   as people do not understand i don't [TS]

00:13:38   think how important they might be giants [TS]

00:13:40   are to use sucking up a little bit now [TS]

00:13:41   but I know but seriously it's excellent [TS]

00:13:44   also should say but beyond but that song [TS]

00:13:47   like they'll be they'll need a crane I [TS]

00:13:50   don't think people really realize how [TS]

00:13:53   important those songs are you understand [TS]

00:13:55   it's it's literally it's it's a [TS]

00:13:57   nightlight looking at a painting of a [TS]

00:14:00   lighthouse [TS]

00:14:01   yeah and and I guess what having [TS]

00:14:03   self-esteem problems like wondering what [TS]

00:14:04   it's capable of [TS]

00:14:05   after killing Jason off and countless [TS]

00:14:08   screaming Argonauts I know and you know [TS]

00:14:10   you're about Jason Jason and the [TS]

00:14:11   Argonauts you're about to cry and I want [TS]

00:14:13   to I want to just want to let you have a [TS]

00:14:15   moment [TS]

00:14:16   I'm your only friend let me take this [TS]

00:14:17   without your only friend find a little [TS]

00:14:20   glowing friend somebody just tweeted at [TS]

00:14:22   me yesterday that the long winters cover [TS]

00:14:24   of pet name yeah there's a giants is [TS]

00:14:27   perhaps at their favorite song ever [TS]

00:14:30   really and that's quite a statement [TS]

00:14:32   considering that when we covered pet [TS]

00:14:34   name [TS]

00:14:34   I felt that that we did not get i [TS]

00:14:37   enjoyed our cover of America rocked it [TS]

00:14:39   and I and I did not feel that we got the [TS]

00:14:41   got the acclaim that was our do because [TS]

00:14:44   of course the long winters are and also [TS]

00:14:47   r & m they've been around longer though [TS]

00:14:51   you know what you should do you should [TS]

00:14:53   do an echo and the bunnymen get a drum [TS]

00:14:54   machine side and taken over this i'm not [TS]

00:14:58   you know what I'm done sucking up to [TS]

00:15:00   that guy [TS]

00:15:01   yeah i'm going to say I'm point I don't [TS]

00:15:04   even know where to begin I got a lot [TS]

00:15:05   here arbys ok so i am ready to write [TS]

00:15:08   this down to the comic problem but [TS]

00:15:10   literally this morning while I was [TS]

00:15:11   urinating it occurred to me that if we [TS]

00:15:14   had one of those situations where are [TS]

00:15:16   the grid went down and we lost it but [TS]

00:15:18   you know let's let's just say one of the [TS]

00:15:21   problems is we wouldn't have the [TS]

00:15:23   internet we would not have Wikipedia at [TS]

00:15:25   are ready access finding a lot of us [TS]

00:15:27   have gotten rid of our books sure we've [TS]

00:15:30   got e right now I haven't I'm you know [TS]

00:15:33   I'm sitting in a room full of books that [TS]

00:15:35   serve me well [TS]

00:15:36   smells like mobs in here learning model [TS]

00:15:40   but I'm telling you when the grid goes [TS]

00:15:42   down this this will be the repository of [TS]

00:15:45   all of all important human knowledge i [TS]

00:15:47   have the live from New York Saturday [TS]

00:15:49   Night Live oral history got it you don't [TS]

00:15:52   want you don't want to you don't want to [TS]

00:15:53   live in a future escape without that [TS]

00:15:55   book you know here's the thing you are [TS]

00:15:57   going to encounter people like chevy [TS]

00:15:58   chase after the apocalypse and we need [TS]

00:16:01   to be ready for that [TS]

00:16:02   yeah if you don't know that they exist [TS]

00:16:03   how can you be prepared it's like it's [TS]

00:16:05   like a great creation story in many ways [TS]

00:16:07   creation greagle prequel yeah cause you [TS]

00:16:10   haven't I was urinating yesterday [TS]

00:16:12   occurred to me like what would happen is [TS]

00:16:14   something like that came along and you [TS]

00:16:16   know as in the the breakout issue of the [TS]

00:16:20   New Avengers what if the lights are [TS]

00:16:23   going off the kind of slowly and like [TS]

00:16:25   what with the new we had some access to [TS]

00:16:28   the resources on the internet but only [TS]

00:16:30   for a certain amount of time we didn't [TS]

00:16:32   know how long that was this is like that [TS]

00:16:33   was in yearning for all that long but [TS]

00:16:35   this is what happens as you do it goes [TS]

00:16:37   through your mind and i was thinking [TS]

00:16:38   like if we knew that there was a limited [TS]

00:16:41   amount of time but didn't know how long [TS]

00:16:42   like where would be start to make sure [TS]

00:16:45   we had what we needed [TS]

00:16:47   assuming we could print it out or [TS]

00:16:48   whatever but this one is kind of what [TS]

00:16:50   you're talking about that wasn't going [TS]

00:16:51   to get their dreams where I think if I [TS]

00:16:53   was a time traveler [TS]

00:16:54   and I had two hours to prepare to [TS]

00:16:57   bookmark as many pages in my iphone as I [TS]

00:17:02   could before traveling back in time not [TS]

00:17:06   to a pre electricity time but traveling [TS]

00:17:08   back let's say I'm time traveling back [TS]

00:17:10   to nineteen forty haha man that's my [TS]

00:17:14   responsibility and I need to bookmark as [TS]

00:17:16   much stuff in my phone as I can but I [TS]

00:17:19   don't already know that I'm gonna want [TS]

00:17:20   access to have two hours [TS]

00:17:24   what do I put in my phone is for you to [TS]

00:17:26   remember or do we assume in this [TS]

00:17:29   universe that you would be credible [TS]

00:17:31   enough for them to believe what you're [TS]

00:17:33   showing them where is the problem how [TS]

00:17:36   you so you end up in 1944 there you have [TS]

00:17:38   no money [TS]

00:17:40   you're dressed in your dumb modern [TS]

00:17:41   clothes your sheer shrubby modern [TS]

00:17:44   clothes you look like there's something [TS]

00:17:46   wrong with you right people on the [TS]

00:17:47   street are going to immediately look at [TS]

00:17:48   you and say what's wrong with that guy [TS]

00:17:50   whose haircut is weird like you [TS]

00:17:51   something from the bonus March yeah this [TS]

00:17:53   is exactly his clothes his clothes are [TS]

00:17:55   weird [TS]

00:17:56   something's not right about this guy and [TS]

00:17:57   you have to establish credibility in [TS]

00:17:59   1940 in such a way you have to you [TS]

00:18:02   primarily you have to first establish [TS]

00:18:04   the baseline of credibility that [TS]

00:18:06   somebody is going to get you dinner [TS]

00:18:08   right like you hear it you're in 1940 [TS]

00:18:12   but you're still you still need to eat [TS]

00:18:13   dinner [TS]

00:18:13   you still need a place to stay you have [TS]

00:18:15   to you have to have contemporary [TS]

00:18:16   civility [TS]

00:18:18   yeah i mean i know it sounds silly but [TS]

00:18:20   that's part of it is you don't want to [TS]

00:18:21   seem like a nut right and you have to be [TS]

00:18:23   able to approach somebody and say and [TS]

00:18:25   and and this includes like finding your [TS]

00:18:28   forebears like my dad was alive in 1943 [TS]

00:18:31   that was a lawyer wasn't right now yea [TS]

00:18:33   he 1941 else he was a maybe competitive [TS]

00:18:36   with stuffing coffee on his pants but I [TS]

00:18:38   know where my grandmother and I know [TS]

00:18:41   where she lived in 1942 I show up at her [TS]

00:18:43   door knock on the door and say hello to [TS]

00:18:45   go back to rural Ohio [TS]

00:18:46   hello you know Mary Louise rochester i [TS]

00:18:48   am a relative of yours and she's going [TS]

00:18:52   to say really will come in and i'm going [TS]

00:18:54   to say yes and I'm going to tell a [TS]

00:18:56   little bit about the band great way to [TS]

00:18:58   start [TS]

00:18:58   yeah and she's gonna go now who are you [TS]

00:19:00   related to and I'm gonna go well I am [TS]

00:19:03   your cousin and I'm gonna you know like [TS]

00:19:06   trickle off some [TS]

00:19:07   the relative than I that I vaguely [TS]

00:19:09   remember that she would know that is [TS]

00:19:12   ambiguous enough that she's not going to [TS]

00:19:13   be able to check it so then I you know [TS]

00:19:16   Uncle Calhoun guys until the houses I [TS]

00:19:20   multiple uncle Ralph's second cousin [TS]

00:19:23   once removed but you don't have enough [TS]

00:19:25   to go in and seem possible right and and [TS]

00:19:28   in the in the manner of the time she [TS]

00:19:30   would feel obligated to let me stay in [TS]

00:19:33   the guest room for a night or two but [TS]

00:19:35   then i'm on my own trying to establish a [TS]

00:19:38   new life in 1940 with what I know is [TS]

00:19:41   about to happen [TS]

00:19:42   how do i what do i do like what know not [TS]

00:19:46   only what are my historical obligations [TS]

00:19:49   but like how do I provide a living for [TS]

00:19:51   myself in that time with what I you know [TS]

00:19:54   what I know is about to transpire [TS]

00:19:55   without being a war profiteer or without [TS]

00:19:57   going to a gambling house and bedding [TS]

00:20:00   betting all you know betting the ten [TS]

00:20:02   dollars that i put together on the fact [TS]

00:20:05   that the Japanese are going to bomb [TS]

00:20:06   Pearl Harbor on december seven you know [TS]

00:20:08   got a time-traveling war profiteer got [TS]

00:20:10   like exactly how do you how do you how [TS]

00:20:12   do you typically live in the past with [TS]

00:20:15   the knowledge that you have of the [TS]

00:20:17   future and and presently features i have [TS]

00:20:20   my iphone and okay maybe soon can i ask [TS]

00:20:23   you some questions about this just to [TS]

00:20:24   have some parameters [TS]

00:20:26   ok I'm sorry to interrupt you a totally [TS]

00:20:28   into this but you're going to run be you [TS]

00:20:31   don't like that it's not that I don't [TS]

00:20:34   like it I kind of ruined be and say was [TS]

00:20:38   I'm into and b is this some questions [TS]

00:20:40   and do you know the first of all do we [TS]

00:20:43   assume that for the sake of magic your [TS]

00:20:46   iphone will continue to work for at [TS]

00:20:48   least a few months inexplicably because [TS]

00:20:50   i don't know if i want to have 110 back [TS]

00:20:52   then [TS]

00:20:52   yeah right i mean that yes they did and [TS]

00:20:55   you could still plug your iphone if you [TS]

00:20:56   have an iphone charger you can still [TS]

00:20:58   plug it into an outlet in 1940 but you [TS]

00:21:01   don't but you have no internet at home [TS]

00:21:03   it's just what you've loaded into the [TS]

00:21:05   thing okay I think that's I think that's [TS]

00:21:07   plausible ok they don't know you have it [TS]

00:21:09   are you going to know the specific [TS]

00:21:12   within like a week or so do you know the [TS]

00:21:14   specific time that you're traveling to [TS]

00:21:17   yeah let's say September 1940 [TS]

00:21:20   determination for the war in Europe is [TS]

00:21:22   raging to America is taking an [TS]

00:21:25   isolationist stance [TS]

00:21:27   the Japanese are moving into manchuria [TS]

00:21:29   Stalin has made a separate peace with [TS]

00:21:33   Hitler pop still funny up hilarious very [TS]

00:21:37   very funny hilarious [TS]

00:21:39   okay yeah Orson Welles the relevance [TS]

00:21:42   again just director just to get it out [TS]

00:21:45   of the way i an't I don't go too far [TS]

00:21:47   here but are you gonna be around people [TS]

00:21:50   are you going to go to like your mom's [TS]

00:21:52   people or your dads people are they [TS]

00:21:54   around people who might eventually after [TS]

00:21:56   a couple drinks warm up to the idea that [TS]

00:21:58   you might be from the future if you make [TS]

00:22:00   the case [TS]

00:22:01   well here's the problem i imagine this [TS]

00:22:04   time traveling happening in place so [TS]

00:22:07   might the house and I'm sitting in right [TS]

00:22:09   now existed in 1940 and so all of a [TS]

00:22:12   sudden I am sitting in the same room i'm [TS]

00:22:14   sitting in but at the house belongs to [TS]

00:22:17   somebody else and it's 1940 and I and [TS]

00:22:19   unfortunately unfortunately for me right [TS]

00:22:21   now I'm in a green-striped shirt my [TS]

00:22:24   underwear and a pair of house slippers [TS]

00:22:26   that are made by bugs [TS]

00:22:29   oh really yeah d you know when the time [TS]

00:22:32   comes gonna happen to examine your time [TS]

00:22:34   in the current universe it's gonna [TS]

00:22:36   happen it's gonna it's gonna come you [TS]

00:22:38   could be a surprise [TS]

00:22:39   it's going to happen in two hours [TS]

00:22:40   because i have that lot of course I cars [TS]

00:22:41   have time to change and I don't put some [TS]

00:22:44   pants on mark a few things and classes [TS]

00:22:46   that look like they're from nineteen [TS]

00:22:47   forty because the easy one in some ways [TS]

00:22:49   if you meet somebody who's probably a [TS]

00:22:52   lunatic or a comic book writer if you [TS]

00:22:55   met one of those people and you could [TS]

00:22:56   say the closing price of us steel is [TS]

00:23:00   going to be this tomorrow [TS]

00:23:02   exactly that's one and then you might [TS]

00:23:04   seem a little like a magician but that's [TS]

00:23:06   one way you could prove it or you could [TS]

00:23:08   say like Sears the name of a young [TS]

00:23:10   person a surprisingly young celebrity [TS]

00:23:12   maybe who will die tomorrow from [TS]

00:23:14   emphysema [TS]

00:23:15   yeah right i would also mark 19 40 [TS]

00:23:18   deaths but all of the problem with that [TS]

00:23:20   is that all of those if you think about [TS]

00:23:22   somebody showing up at your house right [TS]

00:23:24   now [TS]

00:23:25   knocking on the door and saying hello [TS]

00:23:27   Merlin man you are someone who knows [TS]

00:23:30   about like you who is well-versed in [TS]

00:23:34   science fiction let me tell you a story [TS]

00:23:36   I'm your descendant from the future I [TS]

00:23:39   have come here [TS]

00:23:40   I know the following intimate details [TS]

00:23:43   about you and he says two or three [TS]

00:23:44   things that your great-grandson might [TS]

00:23:47   plausibly know but that are still like [TS]

00:23:49   intimate details and then he says [TS]

00:23:52   tomorrow get less interested in [TS]

00:23:54   auto-erotic asphyxiation tomorrow [TS]

00:23:58   Carly Rae Jepsen is gonna die of [TS]

00:24:00   emphysema and you're like uh-huh okay [TS]

00:24:03   and then it has that homey maybe lady I [TS]

00:24:07   don't know I just a name that popped in [TS]

00:24:09   my room that I thought I read on the [TS]

00:24:11   internet sometimes and I don't research [TS]

00:24:12   and then you're like okay sure [TS]

00:24:18   come in like I'm not going to introduce [TS]

00:24:21   you to my family quite yet but come into [TS]

00:24:23   the entryway like come into the anteroom [TS]

00:24:25   and let's talk about this a little bit [TS]

00:24:27   longer [TS]

00:24:27   tell me more about myself from the [TS]

00:24:29   future and then pretty soon everything [TS]

00:24:32   that this person says is going to sound [TS]

00:24:34   like bullshit because they're going to [TS]

00:24:35   say well in ten more years Merlin man [TS]

00:24:38   you become a widely known internet [TS]

00:24:42   celebrity I get it I get it [TS]

00:24:44   how how how can i verify that and [TS]

00:24:48   everything he's telling you about [TS]

00:24:49   yourself in the past except for every it [TS]

00:24:52   could be could be just like that he [TS]

00:24:55   researched it on the internet really [TS]

00:24:56   well tonight so I don't know it's very I [TS]

00:24:59   spend a lot of time imagining myself [TS]

00:25:01   walking down the street in 1914 my uggs [TS]

00:25:03   with my historically inappropriate [TS]

00:25:05   glasses thinking how am I gonna walk [TS]

00:25:08   into a diner and tell the guy something [TS]

00:25:11   that's gonna make him want to give me a [TS]

00:25:12   turkey dinner without becoming a war [TS]

00:25:16   profiteer initially you're probably [TS]

00:25:20   gonna tell you can be like a hobo right [TS]

00:25:22   you look for chalk marks because and [TS]

00:25:23   chop some wood gotta work your way up [TS]

00:25:25   yeah and-and-and the natural place to [TS]

00:25:27   start is with your family but is that [TS]

00:25:30   shit is that something you should do [TS]

00:25:32   should you go to your great ground i [TS]

00:25:33   think possibly but i also think based on [TS]

00:25:37   reading some [TS]

00:25:38   fiction that if you were to meet floozy [TS]

00:25:42   oh who maybe had a lot of them problem [TS]

00:25:46   well one that will get floozy I guess [TS]

00:25:48   that would be like fancy society ladies [TS]

00:25:50   like maybe somebody from preston sturges [TS]

00:25:52   film [TS]

00:25:52   oh I don't know I'm just saying if you [TS]

00:25:54   met somebody made about how about [TS]

00:25:56   somebody should have been an heiress is [TS]

00:25:57   the daughter of somebody powerful who's [TS]

00:25:59   the black sheep of african-american [TS]

00:26:00   sheet if you were to get in good with [TS]

00:26:02   her you know you might be able to bring [TS]

00:26:04   her around I think about that what's [TS]

00:26:06   that what's that William Powell movie [TS]

00:26:07   you know with the famous windpower movie [TS]

00:26:11   where he goes and poses as a hobo and [TS]

00:26:14   then it becomes like that matter but [TS]

00:26:16   there are just a lot of films of the [TS]

00:26:18   time with that kind of thing happen you [TS]

00:26:19   got Frank Capra making me and i don't [TS]

00:26:22   know i'm not sure because you're you're [TS]

00:26:24   you're gonna try you your your plan is [TS]

00:26:26   that you want to convince somebody in [TS]

00:26:27   the past two to believe that you are [TS]

00:26:29   from the future [TS]

00:26:30   well yes I think eventually but i think [TS]

00:26:33   that the thing is before you try to use [TS]

00:26:34   science you're gonna have to build with [TS]

00:26:36   ye first of all you know be you're going [TS]

00:26:39   to need relationships but a you're going [TS]

00:26:41   to need credibility [TS]

00:26:42   well the things that are not seem like a [TS]

00:26:43   kook right 1940 is pre female orgasm [TS]

00:26:47   when did that give a sense of when that [TS]

00:26:49   started with the 1964 I think I don't [TS]

00:26:51   think a woman had an orgasm until Kinsey [TS]

00:26:54   until the kinsey report because you know [TS]

00:26:56   you have these a lady that's the thing [TS]

00:26:58   is they had a lot of accidental orgasms [TS]

00:27:00   but they thought that it was some kind [TS]

00:27:01   of consumption was usually horseback [TS]

00:27:04   riding or dryers like it says you know [TS]

00:27:06   that they slide down the banister I [TS]

00:27:07   don't know what we think Peters was [TS]

00:27:09   before mechanical dryers to so again [TS]

00:27:12   when he have your crypt aside yes I was [TS]

00:27:16   not gonna it was like a washboard they [TS]

00:27:18   had that's a much different orgasm but [TS]

00:27:20   also so you know women riding every [TS]

00:27:23   lying down on painting couches wondering [TS]

00:27:25   what's going on with them and you could [TS]

00:27:27   arrive in that time and be like listen I [TS]

00:27:30   know a secret [TS]

00:27:31   I have a magic secret want to see what I [TS]

00:27:33   can do and I think that would gain you [TS]

00:27:35   entrance to the confidence of us of a [TS]

00:27:40   rich society lady that had maybe like a [TS]

00:27:43   lot num addiction if you could just get [TS]

00:27:47   you know through the if you can get [TS]

00:27:49   through the petticoats [TS]

00:27:50   to say like I know a thing that you [TS]

00:27:53   don't know your answer your question [TS]

00:27:55   here I think you need to come in and [TS]

00:27:57   seemed like a reliable cocksman is going [TS]

00:27:59   to cut some wood [TS]

00:28:00   yeah I'm just I'd show up and I'd cut a [TS]

00:28:01   rakish figure and i would say listen I [TS]

00:28:04   know that my glasses seem to be made out [TS]

00:28:07   of a mysterious substance that looks a [TS]

00:28:11   little bit like tortoise show you can [TS]

00:28:12   tell them their goggles i could say this [TS]

00:28:14   is all just sucks cock and my Maya my [TS]

00:28:18   slippers are inexplicably complicated i [TS]

00:28:22   think this slipper had to tell you John [TS]

00:28:24   I don't want to judge i think the [TS]

00:28:25   slippers are a fucking non-starter [TS]

00:28:26   really i think you need to go get some [TS]

00:28:28   brogues okay now wait a minute this is [TS]

00:28:30   like one of those minecraft kinds you're [TS]

00:28:32   gonna have to go in and figure out like [TS]

00:28:34   how to get because your money is useless [TS]

00:28:35   right you show you show up with the show [TS]

00:28:38   up with some Kennedy dollars [TS]

00:28:40   yeah they're going to say he's not even [TS]

00:28:41   10 Kennedy is right but here's the thing [TS]

00:28:43   you have this iphone that that will make [TS]

00:28:47   you look like a wizard but also make you [TS]

00:28:50   look like a way to get the internet on [TS]

00:28:52   it you can't get the internet on it but [TS]

00:28:53   you can it's a little tiny black box [TS]

00:28:56   that you push a button and all of a [TS]

00:28:58   sudden a photograph appears in all of a [TS]

00:29:00   sudden a little video game appears now [TS]

00:29:03   tell me that you go you go to the [TS]

00:29:05   University of Washington and you go into [TS]

00:29:08   some some commentary on a UNIVAC but you [TS]

00:29:13   go in someplace where they got to the [TS]

00:29:15   Difference Engine or whatever you find [TS]

00:29:17   Richard famine em and you say listen I [TS]

00:29:19   need to talk to you for just a second [TS]

00:29:21   and then you open up your coat and you [TS]

00:29:23   go Boop and he sees it and he goes what [TS]

00:29:27   the fuck is that and what who the fuck [TS]

00:29:29   are you and then you go exactly buy me a [TS]

00:29:32   turkey dinner and we can talk about this [TS]

00:29:34   okay this is getting boring probably but [TS]

00:29:37   you could find out what a nerds were [TS]

00:29:40   about to make that was groundbreaking [TS]

00:29:43   ah maybe it's maybe like privacy items [TS]

00:29:46   you go [TS]

00:29:47   hey split any Adams lately or you go you [TS]

00:29:49   go oh you know that's a real challenging [TS]

00:29:52   problem you've got and then let me pull [TS]

00:29:55   up your phone you should this is a [TS]

00:29:56   formula or this is the finished product [TS]

00:29:58   and he's gonna go [TS]

00:29:59   only he would be able to understand why [TS]

00:30:02   how much that was a thing he'd be [TS]

00:30:04   excited he knows he gets it done Brandon [TS]

00:30:07   is a bad example because in 1940 he was [TS]

00:30:09   still working in some you'd have to find [TS]

00:30:11   her me where the hell was he in 1940s he [TS]

00:30:15   still in Europe [TS]

00:30:16   I don't know this is coming into [TS]

00:30:17   manhattan project yeah yeah I bet he was [TS]

00:30:20   still in your you have to you have to go [TS]

00:30:22   a lot of those guys got out by them [TS]

00:30:24   you'd have to go to this is the thing [TS]

00:30:25   we're establishing a list you go to [TS]

00:30:27   Wikipedia you-you-you google all the [TS]

00:30:31   atomic scientists and their ok you're [TS]

00:30:34   right this is getting boring or you're [TS]

00:30:36   simple-minded busy so you have to make [TS]

00:30:39   two lists category colon lose you have [TS]

00:30:41   never had an orgasm and atomic [TS]

00:30:44   scientists who are on their way to [TS]

00:30:45   America and and you know you appeal to [TS]

00:30:49   both sides we have an arby's near our [TS]

00:30:51   house it's near the lucky that we go to [TS]

00:30:55   sometimes for groceries [TS]

00:30:57   they got a sporting goods store my [TS]

00:30:58   daughter likes to go to they've got a [TS]

00:30:59   Ross Dress for Less that we can see from [TS]

00:31:00   our our back window [TS]

00:31:02   it's pretty close and i've only been [TS]

00:31:05   there about two or three times the first [TS]

00:31:07   of all arby's has gotten a little [TS]

00:31:08   overwhelming [TS]

00:31:09   they've moved beyond there and did you [TS]

00:31:10   know that did you know that RBC center [TS]

00:31:12   of its acronym or a backronym but did [TS]

00:31:13   you know that our pieces an acronym [TS]

00:31:14   Americans roast beef yes sir that's [TS]

00:31:16   right you can tell from a different time [TS]

00:31:17   because it's polite [TS]

00:31:18   yeah well America's roast beef yes sir [TS]

00:31:20   this can't be yogurt today would be our [TS]

00:31:22   food would be America's be fuck you that [TS]

00:31:25   this country's best yogurt you remember [TS]

00:31:27   when this can be and I can't believe [TS]

00:31:28   this is a good change to this this [TS]

00:31:32   country's best yogurt i was very [TS]

00:31:33   offended by that [TS]

00:31:35   oh where they had to spell it out no [TS]

00:31:36   tcby started out as this can't be yogurt [TS]

00:31:40   and then like two years in they came [TS]

00:31:44   back they came back around and they were [TS]

00:31:46   like this country's best yogurt will [TS]

00:31:50   focus group felt like this can't be [TS]

00:31:53   yogurt was negative and a negative it's [TS]

00:31:57   like I don't think of an elephant [TS]

00:31:58   problem it's pretty good [TS]

00:32:00   that's the yeah and what about teaching [TS]

00:32:02   didn't used to just be tgif's didn't [TS]

00:32:05   they didn't they use retcon to go back [TS]

00:32:07   and make a TGI Fridays I don't know the [TS]

00:32:09   answer to that I always thought it was [TS]

00:32:11   tgifridays tgifridays there's a lot of [TS]

00:32:15   some [TS]

00:32:15   application you know what I mean yeah [TS]

00:32:17   it's that easy I fridays i went in there [TS]

00:32:21   and they like everywhere including hell [TS]

00:32:24   the taco bell KFC they greatly extended [TS]

00:32:26   their product line into areas they just [TS]

00:32:28   shouldn't even be in order it's got [TS]

00:32:29   mushrooms fuckin salads you know here's [TS]

00:32:33   the thing this is this is going to [TS]

00:32:34   survey when you go into the past please [TS]

00:32:36   tell people about this okay i think they [TS]

00:32:37   might have already known about this if [TS]

00:32:38   you go into that diner obviously don't [TS]

00:32:40   don't don't you know Michael J Fox your [TS]

00:32:43   way into a pepsi you want to go in there [TS]

00:32:45   you want to go in there and do something [TS]

00:32:46   yes for a beefsteak it right with [TS]

00:32:49   french-fried potatoes or something you [TS]

00:32:50   want to sound sensible i'm going to say [TS]

00:32:52   turkey dinner i'm going to say everytime [TS]

00:32:54   turkey dinner i think it is a blue plate [TS]

00:32:55   special be in good shape [TS]

00:32:57   you're right blue plate special whoo-hoo [TS]

00:33:00   and then the guys going to say fifteen [TS]

00:33:02   cents and I'm gonna go uh oh shit my [TS]

00:33:05   time has Roosevelt on [TS]

00:33:07   yeah I tell you what laser money it's [TS]

00:33:10   here in my phone and let me tell you [TS]

00:33:11   good sir would you like to see a video [TS]

00:33:13   game that was your fifteen cents is an [TS]

00:33:17   area with poor scheisse have let me tell [TS]

00:33:20   you let me ask you this has your wife [TS]

00:33:22   ever had an orgasm answer i'm going to [TS]

00:33:27   travel back in time and take that back [TS]

00:33:30   hm so anyway we went in there and I you [TS]

00:33:32   know what I got I got the classic I got [TS]

00:33:34   the thing i always get a first of all [TS]

00:33:35   when I got Arby's now because of my [TS]

00:33:37   personality and my problems I over order [TS]

00:33:40   because i think i'm not gonna be back [TS]

00:33:41   here sin you get three french dip [TS]

00:33:43   sandwiches done now you know what id id [TS]

00:33:45   beef and cheddar beef and cheddar I like [TS]

00:33:48   it except it's got an onion bun like an [TS]

00:33:50   onion fine I'm you know if I like onions [TS]

00:33:53   and you like buns like onions are like [TS]

00:33:55   buns but I don't want an onion bun on my [TS]

00:33:56   beef and you don't keep bonds in the [TS]

00:33:58   house unless you're going to have a BBQ [TS]

00:34:00   with some creepy but I but listen to [TS]

00:34:03   show a lot if i go i don't keep guns in [TS]

00:34:06   the house first of all your apps yet [TS]

00:34:07   we're spending buns and that's right i [TS]

00:34:09   have a lot of winners and no buns you [TS]

00:34:11   get that you get the buns fresh and then [TS]

00:34:12   the second thing is if i go to a bagel [TS]

00:34:14   place and I say the first thing I say is [TS]

00:34:16   give me a sesame seed big if they don't [TS]

00:34:19   have sesame seed bagels i'm already [TS]

00:34:20   suspicious [TS]

00:34:23   I will then go to poppy seed if they are [TS]

00:34:26   out of poppy seed i will against my [TS]

00:34:29   better judgment get an everything bagel [TS]

00:34:31   and if they are out of those then we are [TS]

00:34:36   done this transaction is over I think [TS]

00:34:38   that shakes the thing to do isn't it [TS]

00:34:40   when you go and get everything bagel [TS]

00:34:41   isn't that kind of mentality and that is [TS]

00:34:43   exactly right and everything bagel is [TS]

00:34:45   the most kosher bagel that you can [TS]

00:34:48   possibly order it is a South it is the [TS]

00:34:50   worst and I want to sesame seed bagel [TS]

00:34:53   that's what i want and i am not had the [TS]

00:34:56   pork chop and milk wine is not when [TS]

00:34:58   somebody goes and gets a dozen bagels [TS]

00:35:00   and they come in they're they're like [TS]

00:35:01   hey I came to the party and I got a bag [TS]

00:35:03   of bagels and you open it up and you [TS]

00:35:04   realize that they got onion bagels [TS]

00:35:07   it's like why are you going to pollute [TS]

00:35:10   this bag of bagels with these dumb onion [TS]

00:35:12   bagels like onion bagel should be [TS]

00:35:14   sequestered to another part of the store [TS]

00:35:16   onion bagel should come in their own bag [TS]

00:35:19   and I don't want onion bone on on my [TS]

00:35:21   beef in check i think yeah [TS]

00:35:23   huggins onion bagel should be like a jet [TS]

00:35:25   magazine if you go to want to go enjoy [TS]

00:35:27   that by yourself that's fine but don't [TS]

00:35:29   bring it to the conference room because [TS]

00:35:30   a nobody likes a fucking on your bagel & [TS]

00:35:32   B it's gonna stink up the room and the [TS]

00:35:35   bag and it's going to screw up the bagel [TS]

00:35:37   experience for everybody that's right [TS]

00:35:38   don't sit on an airplane [TS]

00:35:40   oh god Reed fhm magazine food you know [TS]

00:35:46   what I'm saying they see how much longer [TS]

00:35:47   need ya to America softcore yes for His [TS]

00:35:53   Majesty's pleasure magazine but i do not [TS]

00:35:56   want to see a guy fucking hot [TS]

00:35:58   masturbation [TS]

00:35:59   yeah what reading one of those like [TS]

00:36:00   magazines that is ostensibly about [TS]

00:36:02   stereo equipment and men's fashion but [TS]

00:36:04   it's really about like jacking off to [TS]

00:36:08   Carmen Electra who that's not a thing i [TS]

00:36:10   want to see if you're if you're on an [TS]

00:36:13   airplane [TS]

00:36:14   you should you should be required by law [TS]

00:36:16   to have either a copy of Vanity Fair [TS]

00:36:18   which is a magazine I do not subscribe [TS]

00:36:21   to because I feel like giving like to [TS]

00:36:24   existentially are you don't have come to [TS]

00:36:26   think I I feel like vanity fair vanity [TS]

00:36:28   fair although that this is the problem [TS]

00:36:32   every if every issue of vanity fair has [TS]

00:36:35   one article in [TS]

00:36:36   i sent you 1i know you're an article in [TS]

00:36:39   it i did one article in it that is [TS]

00:36:41   really interesting to me and I really [TS]

00:36:43   really want to read it and then white [TS]

00:36:45   people parties but that's the prop the [TS]

00:36:48   rest of the magazine like promulgates [TS]

00:36:50   this middlebrow concept of what high [TS]

00:36:55   class is all it's like the Olive Garden [TS]

00:36:57   of a periodic it absolutely is it it it [TS]

00:37:01   perpetuates this tommy hilfiger ization [TS]

00:37:03   of america where like the cheapest [TS]

00:37:07   version of the Hamptons is is like [TS]

00:37:12   smeared like government mayonnaise [TS]

00:37:15   like-like-like government margarine [TS]

00:37:19   across America and people are like [TS]

00:37:20   that's what I aspire to [TS]

00:37:22   I aspire to have no taste I aspire to be [TS]

00:37:26   a person who I'd aspired to be a nouveau [TS]

00:37:28   riche person who thinks that uh you know [TS]

00:37:32   who thinks that an interest in the [TS]

00:37:34   Kennedys constitutes being like a cup a [TS]

00:37:38   problem person of cultures are calling [TS]

00:37:40   yourself a Civil War buff [TS]

00:37:42   oh my god Civil War buff who that should [TS]

00:37:44   that should be somebody shine she's I I [TS]

00:37:47   am I i have a pair of cream-colored [TS]

00:37:50   calfskin clubs waiting to slap anyone [TS]

00:37:54   across the face who calls themselves a [TS]

00:37:56   Civil War buff because there's so many [TS]

00:38:00   of them just because Civil War buff is [TS]

00:38:03   not a thing [TS]

00:38:04   ok it is not a thing that you should [TS]

00:38:05   describe yourself military intelligence [TS]

00:38:07   you should say you should say you should [TS]

00:38:11   say so many things before you get to [TS]

00:38:12   Civil War buff that you just never get [TS]

00:38:14   to Civil War buff which is saying thighs [TS]

00:38:16   easiest or scholar is it the Civil War [TS]

00:38:20   parts just too easy anymore i would say [TS]

00:38:23   cause player i am becoming more and more [TS]

00:38:27   I'm becoming more and more enamored with [TS]

00:38:29   this cosplay need to hit this cosplay [TS]

00:38:32   thing that's happening across America [TS]

00:38:33   talk about the comics problem and I'm [TS]

00:38:36   realizing that cosplay is this over this [TS]

00:38:40   this umbrella definition that basically [TS]

00:38:44   is like thirty percent of americans are [TS]

00:38:46   just cause playing [TS]

00:38:47   at any given haha oh you're taking it [TS]

00:38:50   you're taking it broader than some manga [TS]

00:38:51   character I've never heard of your [TS]

00:38:53   saying that this it's a costume drama a [TS]

00:38:55   national scale when I walk into a [TS]

00:38:57   downtown office building now I stand in [TS]

00:39:00   the lobby and I watched people come and [TS]

00:39:02   go and I'm like fully half these people [TS]

00:39:05   are cosplaying there cause playing gray [TS]

00:39:08   flannel business people and it's like [TS]

00:39:12   I'm getting sir I'm glad I'm spending a [TS]

00:39:15   lot more time downtown lately now that [TS]

00:39:16   I'm now that cosplay is that idea in my [TS]

00:39:18   head I think you could definitely travel [TS]

00:39:21   back to 1978 and rolling joints on a van [TS]

00:39:24   Halen album and that remark would really [TS]

00:39:26   blow people out of the room I feel like [TS]

00:39:28   something like there's a costume made it [TS]

00:39:31   is see these guys in building away [TS]

00:39:33   listen man suit is just a modern suit of [TS]

00:39:38   armor except it's not protecting you [TS]

00:39:42   against sources say brie brooks brothers [TS]

00:39:44   chainmail yeah it's protecting you [TS]

00:39:47   against sign how do I know that you see [TS]

00:39:50   the same green and I see if i have time [TS]

00:39:53   travel back to nineteen seventy-eight I [TS]

00:39:54   would have no trouble establishing my [TS]

00:39:56   credibility go raisin Mike Anthony could [TS]

00:39:58   go right to mike anthony and say Bob war [TS]

00:40:04   waa and you would say I'm the ghost of [TS]

00:40:08   jack daniel's face future don't do that [TS]

00:40:10   douchebag thing we plan open a and pump [TS]

00:40:13   your phys do that you know you know what [TS]

00:40:16   I do I walk into the first head shop and [TS]

00:40:18   i would say ready dudes ready ice in [TS]

00:40:21   your bomb 0247 drop city did [TS]

00:40:25   ah mind blown and everybody like what [TS]

00:40:28   what what did he just say ice in the [TS]

00:40:30   barn and there be a guy already running [TS]

00:40:32   out the door to the nearest 7-11 to get [TS]

00:40:33   a bag of ice [TS]

00:40:35   that's right nobody thought of that [TS]

00:40:36   before that was not invented until the [TS]

00:40:39   early eighties don't want that meat [TS]

00:40:40   there's never historically i added this [TS]

00:40:42   on Wikipedia but there's never [TS]

00:40:43   historically been a group is open to [TS]

00:40:45   improvement opportunities as people in [TS]

00:40:47   the seventies who did too many drugs [TS]

00:40:48   that's exactly right [TS]

00:40:50   thank you well don't know now in in 1978 [TS]

00:40:53   did they have 64 ounce bottles of Pop [TS]

00:40:57   well but you have you had to go out and [TS]

00:40:59   buy with it before 60 now [TS]

00:41:01   bottles right but they have played in [TS]

00:41:04   that plastic bottles popular no I think [TS]

00:41:06   there may have been too especially from [TS]

00:41:08   kentucky fried chicken and you might [TS]

00:41:09   have been able to get two liter bottle [TS]

00:41:10   in my case we have returnable glass [TS]

00:41:12   bottles like a fucking gentleman and you [TS]

00:41:14   go out and get an eight pack of 16 ounce [TS]

00:41:17   coke bottles not to answer your question [TS]

00:41:18   no I don't think they did well so so [TS]

00:41:20   that means that the two-liter bottle [TS]

00:41:23   with the bottom cut off used as a hash [TS]

00:41:27   bong where you fill the you fill the [TS]

00:41:30   bottle up with so are you very familiar [TS]

00:41:33   with this technology I think the thing [TS]

00:41:35   where you light it under a glass and [TS]

00:41:37   then suck out the smoke from at the [TS]

00:41:38   glass you take a two-liter pop bottle [TS]

00:41:40   you cut the bottom off of it you know [TS]

00:41:43   just when you push in a bathtub [TS]

00:41:44   yeah you submerge it in water yeah then [TS]

00:41:47   you put a bowl on top of it like a bowl [TS]

00:41:49   made out of tin foil that you've you [TS]

00:41:51   poke little holes in you put a big block [TS]

00:41:54   of hash on the top you light it and then [TS]

00:41:55   you pull the bottle up out of the water [TS]

00:41:57   creating suction science fills the [TS]

00:42:02   bottle full of super intense dope smoke [TS]

00:42:06   and then you put your mouth over you [TS]

00:42:08   take the bowl of you put your mouth over [TS]

00:42:10   the top of the bottle and you push it [TS]

00:42:11   down into the water and it hyper in [TS]

00:42:15   Pelzer all this dope smoke into your [TS]

00:42:17   lungs and then you are big to put ice in [TS]

00:42:21   the water you could i never thought i'll [TS]

00:42:24   just now [TS]

00:42:24   no one in no one had invented that in [TS]

00:42:26   1978 you could be a god among men you [TS]

00:42:31   get you get so much free weed because [TS]

00:42:33   you would be like the Johnny Appleseed [TS]

00:42:34   of weed technology [TS]

00:42:36   yeah the problem of course is that I [TS]

00:42:37   don't smoke pot anymore that you would [TS]

00:42:39   have then I would have but I me now [TS]

00:42:41   going back then I'm not gonna go back [TS]

00:42:44   and I'm not going to go to necessarily i [TS]

00:42:46   teach you about multiverses i guess i [TS]

00:42:48   don't know you get my other idea i'll [TS]

00:42:49   get back to potato cakes in a minute but [TS]

00:42:51   my other idea that I'm already thinking [TS]

00:42:52   is is defeating the purpose would be if [TS]

00:42:55   once you see that matter once you've [TS]

00:42:57   talked them into the fact that you're a [TS]

00:42:59   time traveler you get a photo of you and [TS]

00:43:01   that person standing there Jeanne Jeanne [TS]

00:43:03   Lee holding next week's newspaper that's [TS]

00:43:08   gonna be hard to do on day one the I [TS]

00:43:10   think it should focus on the blue plate [TS]

00:43:11   special to start out and get some decent [TS]

00:43:12   shoes right [TS]

00:43:14   but anyway you know what it is boring [TS]

00:43:15   but that's the kind of thing I think [TS]

00:43:16   about yeah unfortunately it is me too [TS]

00:43:19   and I hope that our listeners also like [TS]

00:43:21   to think about that stuff because we [TS]

00:43:22   just talked about it for an hour [TS]

00:43:24   yeah i went to the i went to the filson [TS]

00:43:26   story yesterday [TS]

00:43:27   oh that's the waxy pant place actually [TS]

00:43:29   pans and I had the most amazing [TS]

00:43:32   experience [TS]

00:43:33   I'm still trying to parse because it is [TS]

00:43:36   a little bit of a time traveler [TS]

00:43:37   experience i went into the filson store [TS]

00:43:42   where I know a guy I i have a friend who [TS]

00:43:45   works there and I walk in and he says [TS]

00:43:47   your name came up yesterday [TS]

00:43:52   there's a guy who works here at the [TS]

00:43:56   store who is like the institutional [TS]

00:43:58   memory of Wilson he's been working here [TS]

00:44:01   for 15 years he knows everything about [TS]

00:44:04   filson you can you can show this guy [TS]

00:44:08   filson garment that was made any time in [TS]

00:44:10   the last hundred years and he can tell [TS]

00:44:11   you when it was made it can we can we [TS]

00:44:15   can we can ID any feel something but he [TS]

00:44:17   also knows all the history all the [TS]

00:44:19   legends and I said tell me more this guy [TS]

00:44:22   seems very interesting to me and my [TS]

00:44:25   friend said well he claims to know you [TS]

00:44:27   and I'm like to tell me more [TS]

00:44:33   and he says he claims to have worked at [TS]

00:44:36   a pizza parlor with you 20 years ago and [TS]

00:44:39   I did work at a pizza parlor 20 years [TS]

00:44:41   ago it was a pizza parlor where like [TS]

00:44:44   your story about pizza we used to make [TS]

00:44:46   the sauce in a 50 gallon garbage can [TS]

00:44:49   with a boat paddle like literally a [TS]

00:44:51   canoe paddle this is a halogen pizza for [TS]

00:44:55   those of you in the northwest if you [TS]

00:44:56   want to know how we make the sauce [TS]

00:44:57   apology is in the government again is [TS]

00:44:59   crying at the crying class grants kind [TS]

00:45:07   you paddle [TS]

00:45:09   yeah it's the crime clown with the with [TS]

00:45:11   the pointy hat stirring sauce in a guy [TS]

00:45:14   its sleep tight [TS]

00:45:16   haha oh no so anyway I'm standing here [TS]

00:45:21   in the store and my friend runs into the [TS]

00:45:25   back and he brings this guy out [TS]

00:45:27   and this guy is he's bald and he has a [TS]

00:45:31   great beard and if I passed him on the [TS]

00:45:32   street I wouldn't recognize him but when [TS]

00:45:35   I look in his eyes I I realized this is [TS]

00:45:37   a guy i know i knew him 20 years ago I [TS]

00:45:40   recognize him he was like a a young mod [TS]

00:45:43   at the time he is actually the guy who [TS]

00:45:45   and introduced me to my bloody valentine [TS]

00:45:48   this kid though when he was 20 and I was [TS]

00:45:50   22 or something like that and now he's [TS]

00:45:55   standing in front of me dressed [TS]

00:45:56   head-to-toe in like filson wall and wax [TS]

00:46:01   canvas and he is gray and and and and [TS]

00:46:07   bald but he is he is this kid now we see [TS]

00:46:09   it in his eyes is easy carriage these [TS]

00:46:12   are in yeah and so he comes out and we [TS]

00:46:16   look at each other it's like oh my god [TS]

00:46:19   hello like I haven't seen you in 20 [TS]

00:46:21   years and all the staff of Phil sins [TS]

00:46:23   like it's kinda late in the day they're [TS]

00:46:25   not very many customers all the staff [TS]

00:46:27   filson starts gathering around us and [TS]

00:46:31   this kid this guy who is the [TS]

00:46:35   institutional memory of filson he turns [TS]

00:46:39   to his employees are all these people [TS]

00:46:40   around him and he says the first filson [TS]

00:46:43   garment I ever saw or was ever aware of [TS]

00:46:47   John Roderick showed me in 1992 he was [TS]

00:46:55   wearing a jacket and he and I were [TS]

00:46:57   hanging out and I said what kind of [TS]

00:46:58   jacket is that is that a Pendleton and [TS]

00:47:01   john looked at me like I was stupid and [TS]

00:47:04   said you don't know about filson what [TS]

00:47:06   are you some fucking kind of idiot that [TS]

00:47:08   sounds cute and then he proceeded to [TS]

00:47:11   explain to me what filson was and one [TS]

00:47:16   year later I got a job here and I've [TS]

00:47:18   been working here ever sent you changed [TS]

00:47:20   his life like he literally change his [TS]

00:47:23   life and then he said and then I became [TS]

00:47:26   an Alaskan adventure guide and now I [TS]

00:47:30   spend four months a year in Alaska [TS]

00:47:33   guiding people in the backcountry and [TS]

00:47:36   the rest of the year here at filson [TS]

00:47:39   like self so he's out he's out there now [TS]

00:47:43   and like in the shit [TS]

00:47:45   testing that stuff out he's in the ship [TS]

00:47:47   and has been for several sense and so [TS]

00:47:50   I'm standing there in this weird like [TS]

00:47:53   time warp vortex where this this guy is [TS]

00:47:58   telling me that a lot of the information [TS]

00:48:01   that he has which he is the only [TS]

00:48:04   repository of the legend of filson and [TS]

00:48:08   all this knowledge of filson gear that [TS]

00:48:11   because filson was sold some time in the [TS]

00:48:14   in 2005 sold to a group of investors [TS]

00:48:17   headed by some douche bag from Ralph [TS]

00:48:19   Lorenz who tried to turn it into like a [TS]

00:48:23   national brand and they fired all the [TS]

00:48:26   old people just trying to like like at [TS]

00:48:28   are like REI north face off is exactly [TS]

00:48:31   they tried to north face of fire they [TS]

00:48:32   tried to offshore the construction of [TS]

00:48:34   stuff to China all the stuff that was [TS]

00:48:36   terrible and then someone came in bought [TS]

00:48:40   filson back from them re-established [TS]

00:48:43   that they were making all that equipment [TS]

00:48:44   in seattle again they have lab [TS]

00:48:47   manufacturing plant in the back of the [TS]

00:48:49   store where they make all that shit [TS]

00:48:51   right there and this kid is one this [TS]

00:48:54   this guy this friend of mine is like one [TS]

00:48:57   of the only survivors who was there [TS]

00:48:58   through the whole thing she is he he is [TS]

00:49:02   the source of the knowledge that makes [TS]

00:49:04   filson what it is today and he only [TS]

00:49:09   knows about filter because 20 years ago [TS]

00:49:10   I made him feel like a dumb ass for not [TS]

00:49:13   knowing what the brand of the jacket I [TS]

00:49:16   was wearing which was up which was [TS]

00:49:17   already a twenty-year-old jacket that I [TS]

00:49:20   you know that I was wearing as a kind of [TS]

00:49:23   like well whatever i have whatever my [TS]

00:49:26   trip is but so so I was in this like [TS]

00:49:30   weird like what if I never existed [TS]

00:49:33   what if I didn't you know like now I'm [TS]

00:49:35   buying filson gear now I'm worshipping [TS]

00:49:38   this this the last brand that is being [TS]

00:49:41   made right and yet [TS]

00:49:44   like right now I feel like I'm i somehow [TS]

00:49:47   i played a I played a shaping role in [TS]

00:49:49   the fact that it even exists like it [TS]

00:49:51   does now and and then I went home and I [TS]

00:49:54   and I am I played with myself [TS]

00:50:02   John before I knew you I had a copy of [TS]

00:50:05   your first record album and it's clear [TS]

00:50:08   from the many letters that people who [TS]

00:50:10   sent you [TS]

00:50:10   was it that John your uh your was your [TS]

00:50:13   first class bullshitter that you've [TS]

00:50:15   ruined a lot of people's lives [TS]

00:50:16   let me ask you this and clearly you've [TS]

00:50:17   made your peace with that or not but [TS]

00:50:20   here's the thing like does it occur to [TS]

00:50:22   you the influence that you may have on a [TS]

00:50:25   people in a given day because that [TS]

00:50:27   that's freaky me like if I started [TS]

00:50:28   thinking about that a lot playing with [TS]

00:50:30   myself or otherwise that freaks me out a [TS]

00:50:33   little bit to think about again pick you [TS]

00:50:35   know Peter Schaffer moments not together [TS]

00:50:36   like magnets [TS]

00:50:37   you don't know you don't know who you're [TS]

00:50:39   going to influence and he certainly [TS]

00:50:40   didn't wake up in whatever 1991 thinking [TS]

00:50:42   I'm gonna make somebody feel bad about [TS]

00:50:44   my jacket and now he's in Alaska [TS]

00:50:46   yeah it's not kind of its physical not [TS]

00:50:48   responsibility what's that crazy [TS]

00:50:49   butterfly effect that it's true of every [TS]

00:50:51   single person in the world you cannot [TS]

00:50:53   know how that little encounter on the [TS]

00:50:55   bus may transform the world and that [TS]

00:50:57   person is like that guy who looked at my [TS]

00:51:00   shoes like I i might i'd probably told [TS]

00:51:02   you this story that guy on the subway [TS]

00:51:04   where I was so enamored with his court [TS]

00:51:07   of on boots and he's this isn't like a [TS]

00:51:11   middle-aged black guy who's like dressed [TS]

00:51:13   in he's a piece of working-class guy but [TS]

00:51:15   he's wearing these boots these work [TS]

00:51:17   boots they're the most gorgeous things [TS]

00:51:20   I've ever seen in my life and I'm [TS]

00:51:22   sitting across from him and I'm staring [TS]

00:51:23   at his boots and he's just kind of you [TS]

00:51:26   know he's like a 60 year old guy he's [TS]

00:51:28   just he's just riding the subway back [TS]

00:51:31   and forth to work but i can see in these [TS]

00:51:33   boots [TS]

00:51:34   pick that he has cared he cares about [TS]

00:51:37   these boots and i'm looking at them and [TS]

00:51:40   I'm going ok I don't think I've ever [TS]

00:51:42   seen a thing as fucking foxy as these [TS]

00:51:46   god damn boots and I can't stop looking [TS]

00:51:48   at him and then I look up and he sees [TS]

00:51:51   that I'm looking at his boots and I give [TS]

00:51:56   him a little like like I i can't i can't [TS]

00:52:02   keep his gaze i'm so i'm so in all of [TS]

00:52:07   what these boots are saying about this [TS]

00:52:09   guy that the kick the meticulous care [TS]

00:52:13   that he has put into the these boots [TS]

00:52:16   which he has clearly pad for 28 years [TS]

00:52:19   and and and he looks at me and he and I [TS]

00:52:23   any Scottish peace [TS]

00:52:24   he's so kind in his eyes and I look away [TS]

00:52:27   like it like it like a young girl and [TS]

00:52:31   then I looked back at him and he's [TS]

00:52:32   looking at me still and i looked out of [TS]

00:52:34   his boots and I give him like this [TS]

00:52:37   respectful nod like I see your boots I [TS]

00:52:41   see them I mean you can tell though that [TS]

00:52:44   he's t takes pride in these and you [TS]

00:52:46   wouldn't just think you're creeping on [TS]

00:52:47   the bus oh no he knows what's happening [TS]

00:52:49   and he gives me an odd like a fucking [TS]

00:52:53   Buddha and he goes that's right [TS]

00:52:57   yes and I look away and I swear to you [TS]

00:53:02   i'm blushing and I'm like this man knows [TS]

00:53:06   things he knows more about things than i [TS]

00:53:09   do and you can see it in these god damn [TS]

00:53:13   boots and then we got to the next stop [TS]

00:53:15   and I had to get off the subway [TS]

00:53:17   I couldn't be on the car with him he was [TS]

00:53:19   doing a mural is your favorite you lose [TS]

00:53:21   your composure and I got off the got off [TS]

00:53:23   the subway and I turned around and he [TS]

00:53:24   was looking at me and I gave him a [TS]

00:53:26   little bow and was just like i seed to [TS]

00:53:30   you the subway car [TS]

00:53:32   IC to you this train it idea i am not [TS]

00:53:36   worthy to be on this train and the door [TS]

00:53:38   closes and off he goes into the into the [TS]

00:53:41   tunnel and the thing is I don't know [TS]

00:53:44   what this guy does he's a he is a [TS]

00:53:46   mechanic or something [TS]

00:53:47   he works with his hands but someone saw [TS]

00:53:54   him in the world and he knew it he knew [TS]

00:53:59   that he had been seen and i do not know [TS]

00:54:03   if he was used to being seen that way he [TS]

00:54:08   works with some guys they know who he is [TS]

00:54:09   he just travels the subway into most [TS]

00:54:12   people's just a guy's just one more new [TS]

00:54:13   york guy on the subway but I saw him and [TS]

00:54:18   you know who knows whether he took that [TS]

00:54:21   knowledge that now he had been [TS]

00:54:22   recognized and he took that into that [TS]

00:54:25   subway tunnel and onto the rest of his [TS]

00:54:26   day and on to the rest of his life and I [TS]

00:54:29   don't know what happens i don't know [TS]

00:54:31   whether that is whether recognizing him [TS]

00:54:34   in that way like activated his powers in [TS]

00:54:40   a different light to mention that he [TS]

00:54:42   gets that a lot [TS]

00:54:43   no no no especially not New York as a [TS]

00:54:47   shoe city so there's a lot of people who [TS]

00:54:48   are pretty pleased with their shoes is [TS]

00:54:50   that had not and i'm sure he I'm sure he [TS]

00:54:52   gets people that are like oh nice boots [TS]

00:54:54   but to recognize what to recognize that [TS]

00:54:57   those boots were communicating something [TS]

00:55:00   about him I don't I well I don't know [TS]

00:55:04   i'm not sure i have never seen I have [TS]

00:55:07   never seen a story of a man ripped in [TS]

00:55:10   his boots like that one encounter where [TS]

00:55:14   I was just like those are that is not a [TS]

00:55:16   boot you can buy that is not a boot yet [TS]

00:55:18   as a boot you have to make [TS]

00:55:21   so that butterfly effect we're at its it [TS]

00:55:26   can be so small I mean with this with [TS]

00:55:28   this this kid I had no idea that he was [TS]

00:55:30   so that that filson story and my sort of [TS]

00:55:33   Alaskan a bravado combined at because i [TS]

00:55:39   was only 22 that it combined at that [TS]

00:55:42   time to be something that would make him [TS]

00:55:45   a person like change the course of his [TS]

00:55:48   life from being like a little mod rocker [TS]

00:55:50   kid to becoming an Alaskan hunting guide [TS]

00:55:54   you you have a moment like that on the [TS]

00:55:57   subway where you're like I see you I [TS]

00:55:59   know that you are bigger than you let on [TS]

00:56:01   and then he gets he gets goes down the [TS]

00:56:04   road and he's like wait a minute that [TS]

00:56:07   kids right I'm bigger than I let on my [TS]

00:56:09   finger [TS]

00:56:10   I'm bigger I am recognizable the thing [TS]

00:56:13   that the thing about me that is big is [TS]

00:56:15   recognizable to people and the problem [TS]

00:56:18   is that most people don't see it [TS]

00:56:21   not that i'm not actually that big but [TS]

00:56:23   he my team might have known that that [TS]

00:56:26   they were cool and that they were maybe [TS]

00:56:28   even unique but he maybe had [TS]

00:56:31   internalized that he was the one who had [TS]

00:56:33   the foot in those like that there was [TS]

00:56:35   something bigger going on in Nice [TS]

00:56:37   footwear but I mean he nodded at me like [TS]

00:56:39   the fucking boot I swear to you he knows [TS]

00:56:41   he knows it's just I'm not sure if he [TS]

00:56:44   knows that that other people can see him [TS]

00:56:47   uh-huh and that is a and i'm not even [TS]

00:56:50   sure whether that is a good thing that I [TS]

00:56:53   that I did by seeing him you know like [TS]

00:56:56   maybe the awareness that he is visible [TS]

00:56:58   to the to the world in that way maybe [TS]

00:57:02   that is maybe that like was a ripple in [TS]

00:57:05   the in the force something out but [TS]

00:57:08   anyway I I choose not to think about it [TS]

00:57:10   and I trust that man has the trust that [TS]

00:57:13   he has the capacity that he is capable [TS]

00:57:15   of going and using that power for good [TS]

00:57:18   because he seemed like one of he seemed [TS]

00:57:19   like a good wizard [TS]

00:57:21   mm I bad but you I bet you've had this [TS]

00:57:23   effect on on [TS]

00:57:25   certainly on more people than just my [TS]

00:57:28   the waterproof my bloody valentine guy i [TS]

00:57:30   bet you bet you bet you've changed a lot [TS]

00:57:32   of lives [TS]

00:57:33   well she gave myself credit is what I'm [TS]

00:57:34   saying my knowledge why bleh male orgasm [TS]

00:57:36   has definitely changed people's lives he [TS]

00:57:39   can't prove a negative it's it's good to [TS]

00:57:42   know because I mean you're gonna save a [TS]

00:57:44   lot of time and frustration and chasing [TS]

00:57:46   you know what I mean you shouldn't you [TS]

00:57:48   shouldn't you know go fracking where [TS]

00:57:50   there's no gas [TS]

00:57:50   yeah listen you don't have to reinvent [TS]

00:57:52   the wheel we know how this is done I [TS]

00:57:55   don't have orgasm so let's just settle [TS]

00:57:56   down day-to-day role settle down [TS]

00:57:58   everybody breathe easy will come outside [TS]

00:58:02   easy there easy there you're feeling [TS]

00:58:04   your oats now let's let's just let's [TS]

00:58:07   just all think about what we've done [TS]

00:58:08   let's lower the lights [TS]

00:58:10   um I do i do feel like one of the things [TS]

00:58:16   one of the powers that we can we can [TS]

00:58:20   exercise with one another is that power [TS]

00:58:24   of recognition when you see someone in [TS]

00:58:27   the world and you see that they are [TS]

00:58:29   taking great care about a certain aspect [TS]

00:58:33   of themselves or you see that they are [TS]

00:58:36   but that they are you know that they are [TS]

00:58:39   interacting with the world in a way that [TS]

00:58:41   is more profound then then other people [TS]

00:58:45   are aware of in the small spaces that we [TS]

00:58:48   you know that we share with one another [TS]

00:58:49   when you see those things i have always [TS]

00:58:52   felt an obligation to acknowledge them [TS]

00:58:55   to the other person you know like I [TS]

00:58:57   cannot pass somebody who is who has who [TS]

00:59:03   has taken the time and energy to Taylor [TS]

00:59:06   themselves or two or somebody who does a [TS]

00:59:09   small kindness on the street that no one [TS]

00:59:11   else notices or someone who just has a [TS]

00:59:15   certain way of walking off the curb into [TS]

00:59:17   the street with that is that is more [TS]

00:59:20   elegant than the than the moment [TS]

00:59:22   necessitated i pay i pay attention to [TS]

00:59:27   those things overtly I will you know I [TS]

00:59:31   spend more time on the street bowing to [TS]

00:59:33   people and congratulating them [TS]

00:59:35   and actually impede my progress through [TS]

00:59:39   the city like it takes me an extra half [TS]

00:59:40   an hour to get anywhere because when I [TS]

00:59:43   see somebody who does something or as [TS]

00:59:46   you know or even is just walking around [TS]

00:59:49   and looking up at the second story of [TS]

00:59:51   buildings and noticing the cornices if I [TS]

00:59:54   see someone doing that I pay them the [TS]

00:59:56   compliment of noticing it and [TS]

00:59:56   compliment of noticing it and [TS]

01:00:00   that is a thing we can all do more of [TS]

01:00:04   mhm and just say like not only like nice [TS]

01:00:07   shoes but like haha i see your shoes [TS]

01:00:10   soon as I wish I i feel i think I never [TS]

01:00:13   thought of it quite the way you're [TS]

01:00:14   saying but I definitely feel the same [TS]

01:00:15   way I mean there's sometimes when you [TS]

01:00:19   see somebody you're like wow you know [TS]

01:00:20   what you win today [TS]

01:00:21   yeah like that you went to that you win [TS]

01:00:23   today like you you are i wish i could [TS]

01:00:24   say to like this African American lady [TS]

01:00:27   who smells really cool and has a giant [TS]

01:00:30   hat with feathers and has clearly has an [TS]

01:00:33   extraordinary level of dignity and [TS]

01:00:36   self-worth and carriage we just wanna go [TS]

01:00:39   you know what you are so fucking cool [TS]

01:00:41   and there's no way Adam there's not a [TS]

01:00:42   great way to say that without sounding [TS]

01:00:43   creepy i totally agree with you by [TS]

01:00:45   sending a carriage there's some [TS]

01:00:47   sometimes you just see the way somebody [TS]

01:00:48   handles themselves where you know [TS]

01:00:51   they're just in that Miles Davis says [TS]

01:00:52   not you know that is black but I mean [TS]

01:00:54   the cool and like the old sense of the [TS]

01:00:56   word like their self dest and well this [TS]

01:00:59   is what i have learned it in my life [TS]

01:01:01   which is that no one doesn't appreciate [TS]

01:01:04   being told that they look beautiful [TS]

01:01:05   today who and it is the easiest [TS]

01:01:09   compliment to pay and you can say it as [TS]

01:01:11   you pass someone on the street like you [TS]

01:01:14   look great today and then you just keep [TS]

01:01:17   going there's nothing creepy about it no [TS]

01:01:19   one doesn't like that like if you walk [TS]

01:01:21   past a 70 year old man who is wearing a [TS]

01:01:24   suit and walking with a cane and you say [TS]

01:01:27   you look great today sir over that there [TS]

01:01:32   is no there is no downside to that you [TS]

01:01:34   know and the same is true about a 24 [TS]

01:01:37   year old woman who looks great you can [TS]

01:01:38   pay her that compliment and it is not it [TS]

01:01:41   is this world that we're living in we're [TS]

01:01:43   paying a woman a compliment on the [TS]

01:01:45   street is some kind of objectifying [TS]

01:01:47   colonialization of her is a crazy as a [TS]

01:01:52   crazy upside-down the kind of shit i [TS]

01:01:54   believe when i was 21 and it's [TS]

01:01:56   absolutely not accurate [TS]

01:01:58   yeah I'll take we will raise it whatwhat [TS]

01:02:00   nobody likes is somebody who is [TS]

01:02:03   breaching their perimeter and acting [TS]

01:02:05   creepy and leering like nobody likes [TS]

01:02:07   that mainly it done and what you're [TS]

01:02:08   saying i totally agree that you're [TS]

01:02:09   saying [TS]

01:02:09   miley addendum [TS]

01:02:11   is too well first of all stay in motion [TS]

01:02:12   while you're doing it but I so on also [TS]

01:02:15   bring some specificity to it like maybe [TS]

01:02:18   if you say to that guy [TS]

01:02:19   sir that suit is impeccable yes is one [TS]

01:02:21   thing or you can just say like DC like [TS]

01:02:24   you pass that lady that 24 you're [TS]

01:02:26   letting you know what your hair is [TS]

01:02:28   awesome because there's nobody who has [TS]

01:02:30   cool hair and is 24 that doesn't want [TS]

01:02:32   you to go and you know what I'll do [TS]

01:02:33   sometimes I will leave off the dependent [TS]

01:02:36   clause or is it [TS]

01:02:39   yeah independent clause of I i almost [TS]

01:02:41   always hate tattoos but and i will say [TS]

01:02:44   that is a really cool fucking tattoo [TS]

01:02:46   uh-huh do you know what was that person [TS]

01:02:48   one here the only here like oh that tues [TS]

01:02:50   is that that's another tattoo good for [TS]

01:02:51   you know I mean if somebody is taking [TS]

01:02:53   the time to do something they appreciate [TS]

01:02:56   being appreciated [TS]

01:02:57   yeah that's right and it's and it's and [TS]

01:02:59   it's a rare moment in the day where you [TS]

01:03:01   can make it not about you for a second [TS]

01:03:03   like you know they don't care what your [TS]

01:03:05   feeling about tattoos is you can just [TS]

01:03:07   say i love that tattoo your hair looks [TS]

01:03:09   great you know like well thats maybe [TS]

01:03:12   that's maybe part of the core of it is [TS]

01:03:13   there's certainly some smoke some small [TS]

01:03:16   part of it that is about you the [TS]

01:03:18   compliment giver part of the problem [TS]

01:03:20   with the leering and the creepy and in [TS]

01:03:22   that stuff and getting into the spaces [TS]

01:03:24   the specificity of you look like you [TS]

01:03:25   have hard nipples like that's a little [TS]

01:03:27   too specific but like if the combat [TS]

01:03:29   compliment is really all about you that [TS]

01:03:31   giver and you know because this one guy [TS]

01:03:33   my neighborhood who I hope dies with [TS]

01:03:35   fire and he just walks around and he's [TS]

01:03:37   just I want to hate this guy so much he [TS]

01:03:39   just walks around one AD can i buy you [TS]

01:03:41   dinner tonight [TS]

01:03:42   oh yeah it's like understand you want me [TS]

01:03:45   to suck your cock that's hilarious [TS]

01:03:47   it's the david cross thing you know if [TS]

01:03:48   you asked a hundred women maybe one of [TS]

01:03:50   them is going to want to fuck on a pilot [TS]

01:03:51   rash [TS]

01:03:53   let's go the lottery okay but the thing [TS]

01:03:55   is a eight and you know and there's this [TS]

01:03:57   definition of love it's a little fruity [TS]

01:03:58   but one definition of love i think is [TS]

01:04:00   nice is that you care more about the [TS]

01:04:02   happiness and Welfare of someone else do [TS]

01:04:03   you do about your own I think that [TS]

01:04:05   applies to compliments to and the thing [TS]

01:04:07   is if that complement is tendered uh [TS]

01:04:09   with dignity and honesty and enthusiasm [TS]

01:04:13   and then you fucking move on i don't i [TS]

01:04:17   don't think there's a world in which [TS]

01:04:18   somebody doesn't appreciate you know [TS]

01:04:19   what if that person let's be honest as [TS]

01:04:21   cool as they might be if they don't [TS]

01:04:22   appreciate that fuck them [TS]

01:04:24   that's their problem and it's not and [TS]

01:04:25   you don't even have to carry it with you [TS]

01:04:26   because you're already down the street [TS]

01:04:29   I mean I will say that everyone smile I [TS]

01:04:30   stop and say madam [TS]

01:04:32   yeah your d├ęcolletage is raising a [TS]

01:04:37   volcanic feeling in my in the in the [TS]

01:04:41   mountain of a man but i am madame masque [TS]

01:04:44   it was candor your first year first [TS]

01:04:46   through third petticoats left be non [TS]

01:04:49   plus [TS]

01:04:50   and then i said goodnight have left me [TS]

01:04:52   rigid and curious are you familiar with [TS]

01:04:54   the female orgasm is it a thing that you [TS]

01:04:57   have experienced firsthand is that just [TS]

01:04:59   felt up it is now doom all dignity man [TS]

01:05:07   fucking dignity it's in short supply [TS]

01:05:09   because the problem is i just had this [TS]

01:05:11   this has to do with it everything we're [TS]

01:05:13   talking about your everything that's [TS]

01:05:14   important if these misunderstandings [TS]

01:05:16   about things that are are they seem like [TS]

01:05:20   shades of grey but they really aren't [TS]

01:05:22   dignity is not the same thing as being [TS]

01:05:24   stuck-up dignity is not the same thing [TS]

01:05:27   as conceit no it isn't an option right [TS]

01:05:30   and I mean absolutely I've i have seen [TS]

01:05:33   all kinds of people of different classes [TS]

01:05:35   you know the thing is a lot of people [TS]

01:05:38   who are rich have historical dignity and [TS]

01:05:41   they've never had their ass well and [TS]

01:05:42   truly kicked right some-some it's easy [TS]

01:05:45   to have dignity if you've never known a [TS]

01:05:47   faceplant but there are a lot of people [TS]

01:05:48   who by virtue of the fact of having been [TS]

01:05:50   through so many face-plants have a kind [TS]

01:05:52   of quiet dignity and you could feel it [TS]

01:05:54   in a room with somebody like that walks [TS]

01:05:56   in you could beat the fucking DMV and [TS]

01:05:59   you see somebody who might be like a [TS]

01:06:01   tubercular Mexican man but like you're [TS]

01:06:04   like you know what [TS]

01:06:05   look at the way that carries himself [TS]

01:06:06   there's no way on my best healthy day [TS]

01:06:08   that I could carry myself that well and [TS]

01:06:10   you feel it in the room [TS]

01:06:11   yeah I honestly I honestly believe that [TS]

01:06:13   I think dignity as undignified as i may [TS]

01:06:15   seem sometimes I really honor it and [TS]

01:06:18   other people i would like to seek it out [TS]

01:06:20   and myself and get something that we've [TS]

01:06:22   lost because it feels stancy there is so [TS]

01:06:26   much we've lost because it feels fancy [TS]

01:06:29   and I was thinking about this the other [TS]

01:06:30   day she's we live in a culture now where [TS]

01:06:34   we we have spent so much time feeling [TS]

01:06:40   that we have spent so much time at [TS]

01:06:42   saying to ourselves over and over that [TS]

01:06:44   narcissism is a is like this loving of [TS]

01:06:51   oneself that is unbecoming and so all of [TS]

01:06:55   our narcissism as a culture is directed [TS]

01:06:58   at hating ourselves and we think that [TS]

01:07:01   like it makes it more authentic [TS]

01:07:03   yeah that because we hate ourselves [TS]

01:07:04   somehow the fact that we are still [TS]

01:07:07   spending all day long hate thinking only [TS]

01:07:10   about ourselves somehow it's not [TS]

01:07:12   narcissistic because it's because it is [TS]

01:07:13   directed it into this blackness [TS]

01:07:16   oh and I mean let's go back to the [TS]

01:07:17   Greeks let's go back to our system [TS]

01:07:19   doesn't matter what the emotion is if [TS]

01:07:21   it's an inward turning emotion that you [TS]

01:07:23   are turning over in your mind for its [TS]

01:07:25   own sake whether you love or hate [TS]

01:07:27   yourself if you're obsessed about that [TS]

01:07:29   you're a narcissist right and so frankly [TS]

01:07:32   of the two having lived in a culture [TS]

01:07:34   here in the northwest where for 10 years [TS]

01:07:36   hating oneself was was basically the [TS]

01:07:39   only rear the only creative reaction you [TS]

01:07:42   could have to the world are the only [TS]

01:07:44   acceptable creative reaction you could [TS]

01:07:45   have to the world was hating yourself [TS]

01:07:46   and realizing like you know one of the [TS]

01:07:49   two I would much rather people walk [TS]

01:07:51   around if they're going to be thinking [TS]

01:07:53   about themselves all the time when I [TS]

01:07:54   love themselves you know I mean and [TS]

01:07:57   frankly I think the route to thinking [TS]

01:07:59   about other people comes through loving [TS]

01:08:03   yourself rather than hating yourself and [TS]

01:08:05   I've watched so many people artists and [TS]

01:08:08   otherwise who go down this death spiral [TS]

01:08:09   of self-hate where they become the most [TS]

01:08:13   narcissistic the least like lovable the [TS]

01:08:15   least likable the least useful people [TS]

01:08:18   over because they are consumed with [TS]

01:08:21   their with their own failings and I you [TS]

01:08:25   know I'm guilty of this myself who you [TS]

01:08:28   know i would add this area and I think [TS]

01:08:30   it changes with generations and this new [TS]

01:08:32   generation one of the one of the reasons [TS]

01:08:35   that people our age is so mad that [TS]

01:08:38   people our age are so mad at at at 21 [TS]

01:08:42   year olds is that they seem to be having [TS]

01:08:44   fun a lot of them [TS]

01:08:45   and you know it's a generation that [TS]

01:08:48   maybe is going to turn the tide and be [TS]

01:08:50   frivolous and be honest aqui [TS]

01:08:54   but I feel like that is as that's as [TS]

01:08:57   valid a valid form of of like a [TS]

01:09:01   self-obsession is as any of the grunge [TS]

01:09:04   era boohoo and I really do [TS]

01:09:08   I mean what could also what could be [TS]

01:09:09   maybe we're both guilty this right now [TS]

01:09:11   but what could be more narcissistic than [TS]

01:09:12   criticizing someone for not hating [TS]

01:09:14   themselves in the same way that you do [TS]

01:09:16   mmm the one does you know what I mean [TS]

01:09:18   and that's why I think punk rock is [TS]

01:09:20   bullshit [TS]

01:09:21   hmm i'm not gonna write that down you're [TS]

01:09:24   not going to write your ear have an [TS]

01:09:26   opportunity to write punk rock is [TS]

01:09:27   bullshit on a three-by-five cards right [TS]

01:09:30   now and then give that give that over [TS]

01:09:32   the Internet to some fan and you're not [TS]

01:09:33   going to deprive them of that L s.h.i.t [TS]

01:09:38   got it on LS HIV no that was me [TS]

01:09:43   pretending like i was finishing writing [TS]

01:09:44   that town-hall i see hmm but that was [TS]

01:09:48   like a new apprenticeship like it here [TS]

01:09:51   said it'd be just be here is my slight [TS]

01:09:53   addendum to that I agree with you but [TS]

01:09:54   here's my slight addendum to that is [TS]

01:09:56   that loving yourself and accepting [TS]

01:09:58   yourself are far from being the same [TS]

01:09:59   thing because there are a lot of people [TS]

01:10:00   who really fucking love themselves to [TS]

01:10:03   the point of wanting to cry how much [TS]

01:10:04   they love themselves but they haven't [TS]

01:10:05   ever really accepted themselves and as [TS]

01:10:07   Morsi has told us [TS]

01:10:09   ah why don't you accept why can't you [TS]

01:10:12   accept yourself like you more than [TS]

01:10:14   accept them so it's time the tail were [TS]

01:10:17   told of how you took a child and you [TS]

01:10:19   made him old you made a mold you made [TS]

01:10:20   him old Johnny drop back last night i [TS]

01:10:25   fell out of bed twice you know you know [TS]

01:10:27   please you're the bee's knees [TS]

01:10:29   everyone was right and what was your [TS]

01:10:30   friend in New York City as it fills in [TS]

01:10:32   yesterday and one of the things that [TS]

01:10:34   this guy this friend of mine who is the [TS]

01:10:35   potential institutional memory of pills [TS]

01:10:38   and said is he said not very long ago [TS]

01:10:40   Johnny Mark Hyman shot up Johnny [TS]

01:10:43   marketing and he bought two thousand [TS]

01:10:45   dollars worth of filson clothes [TS]

01:10:47   notwithstanding your feelings on the [TS]

01:10:48   smiths Johnny Marr unbelievable fucking [TS]

01:10:53   Suey fucking generous the Western man [TS]

01:10:55   place and now I know he's walking around [TS]

01:10:58   somewhere wherever that is this [TS]

01:10:59   waterproof is completely waterproof does [TS]

01:11:02   he live in Manchester [TS]

01:11:04   uh yeah I call it bad Chester matches he [TS]

01:11:06   probably he probably lives in New York [TS]

01:11:08   where I don't think probably I think it [TS]

01:11:09   was living in Portland for a while [TS]

01:11:10   because he was in modest mouse [TS]

01:11:12   yeah well used to play Billy Bragg to [TS]

01:11:15   he's done a lot of work he was trying to [TS]

01:11:17   hate on your part that Rick what you got [TS]

01:11:19   a 330 what is that [TS]

01:11:21   that's right you ever put the 330 and [TS]

01:11:23   try to play his parts Johnny Marr I mean [TS]

01:11:25   I know you're a really good guitar [TS]

01:11:26   player I mean I still don't understand [TS]

01:11:28   how you play shapes especially live but [TS]

01:11:29   your transplant Johnny Marr part it's a [TS]

01:11:31   lot more complicated than it seems [TS]

01:11:33   it's very complicated he's like not the [TS]

01:11:35   anti p Townsend but he's playing he's [TS]

01:11:37   covering a lot of ground with some crazy [TS]

01:11:40   picking and open strings and like just [TS]

01:11:43   play the beginning of this charming man [TS]

01:11:44   and try to make it sound right [TS]

01:11:45   yeah he will not see what happens yep [TS]

01:11:48   it's the peter buck it's the Peter Buck [TS]

01:11:50   method of like I'm not doing anything [TS]

01:11:52   but I i'm actually doing everything [TS]

01:11:55   yeah yeah was I watching i was i was [TS]

01:11:59   watching [TS]

01:12:00   oh yeah Big B Springsteen fan right not [TS]

01:12:03   really you're gonna you you're getting [TS]

01:12:05   me in trouble with them are listening [TS]

01:12:06   public eye but I was what I did you know [TS]

01:12:09   the heat burns does that mean that he [TS]

01:12:11   shreds a Bruce yeah a bruiser is one of [TS]

01:12:15   those guys my understanding of him is [TS]

01:12:17   that he's not like a technical you know [TS]

01:12:21   yeah but I'm you closely to the cleaner [TS]

01:12:23   than Jimmy Page and he can do maybe not [TS]

01:12:25   print style but he can do some serious [TS]

01:12:27   pull offs and bends and shit when you [TS]

01:12:28   want to [TS]

01:12:29   he approached becoming a rock musician [TS]

01:12:31   with a single-minded sense of purpose [TS]

01:12:35   just like the Ben Franklin of working [TS]

01:12:37   man rock he knew where he was going [TS]

01:12:39   mm don't you think mmm so-and-so so the [TS]

01:12:42   the holocaust of working man rock that [TS]

01:12:44   we live in now is a product of bruce [TS]

01:12:46   springsteen i do agree with that one of [TS]

01:12:48   the Holocaust people who write perform [TS]

01:12:49   their own songs as the Holocaust Bob [TS]

01:12:52   Dylan much Bob Bob Dylan Bob Dylan Joni [TS]

01:12:55   Mitchell the beatles and young are be [TS]

01:13:00   amazing and a responsible for so much [TS]

01:13:03   shitty music degree [TS]

01:13:06   before writers of the apartment buffy [TS]

01:13:08   sainte-marie maybe John by as but [TS]

01:13:10   definitely Joni Mitchell do you realize [TS]

01:13:12   how many shitty trilling folk songs have [TS]

01:13:15   come out do I realize you realize i live [TS]

01:13:19   in I live in constant fear that i'm [TS]

01:13:21   gonna walk out the door and some woman [TS]

01:13:23   with blond hair is gonna go well [TS]

01:13:25   speaking of which do you realize can you [TS]

01:13:29   imagine how many shitty bands started [TS]

01:13:31   because of my bloody valentine can you [TS]

01:13:35   imagine i have i have stood at the foot [TS]

01:13:37   of the stage and watched dozens of bad [TS]

01:13:40   of shitty bands that that started well I [TS]

01:13:43   does begin called i turn off your pedals [TS]

01:13:46   and see what you sound like a story [TS]

01:13:48   about the time I came in to audition for [TS]

01:13:50   the Western State hurricane now he came [TS]

01:13:52   in and he was like you know I think you [TS]

01:13:54   guys are amazing i think you need [TS]

01:13:55   another guitar player this circuit 97-98 [TS]

01:13:57   yeah somewhere around there he came in [TS]

01:13:59   and he he had this really cool les paul [TS]

01:14:02   he was very cool-looking dude super cool [TS]

01:14:05   kid and he set up his amp and it is [TS]

01:14:07   Carrie and he had a ac30 was so cool and [TS]

01:14:11   and then he starts setting up his pedals [TS]

01:14:13   and he sets up these pedals in this [TS]

01:14:17   semi-circle around himself and I'm [TS]

01:14:20   sitting I'm standing there and I have [TS]

01:14:21   one you have one petal I have a rap [TS]

01:14:23   battle [TS]

01:14:23   your arms are folded your seating you're [TS]

01:14:25   just waiting I'm just when I'm standing [TS]

01:14:27   but I'm standing there with my [TS]

01:14:29   rickenbacker my rat pedal and i'm [TS]

01:14:31   watching as the pages here that's a [TS]

01:14:32   chunk to calc as your plugs impact [TS]

01:14:34   cables and you know it and the and every [TS]

01:14:37   one of them has a non volt battery and [TS]

01:14:39   he sets up this semi circle of petals [TS]

01:14:41   around himself that is that is [TS]

01:14:43   three-quarters of a circle around him is [TS]

01:14:47   something like 24 way they're not on the [TS]

01:14:51   board [TS]

01:14:51   they're not on a blog and each one of [TS]

01:14:53   them individually in a semi-circle [TS]

01:14:55   perfect like he and he keeps kind of [TS]

01:14:57   adjusting the radius as he goes about [TS]

01:15:00   this circle is paper great lunch i'm [TS]

01:15:02   watching him and I'm like and it and I [TS]

01:15:06   say you know so uh so that's a lot of [TS]

01:15:10   pedals and he goes well you know every [TS]

01:15:13   one of them does a different thing and I [TS]

01:15:14   just use them i use a season to taste i [TS]

01:15:18   use them as [TS]

01:15:19   as colour and I'm thinking wow you know [TS]

01:15:24   this was at a time when I never touched [TS]

01:15:27   the volume or tone knob on my guitar for [TS]

01:15:29   any other purpose then then compulsively [TS]

01:15:32   to make sure they were turned all the [TS]

01:15:34   way we're like not feeding back [TS]

01:15:36   no no I never adjusted those knobs in [TS]

01:15:38   any way other than to have make sure [TS]

01:15:39   they were turned all the way up and at a [TS]

01:15:41   certain point I realized that I was so [TS]

01:15:43   compulsive about touching these knobs to [TS]

01:15:45   make sure they were all the way up but i [TS]

01:15:47   just put duct tape across all of the [TS]

01:15:49   knobs on my guitar so that I couldn't [TS]

01:15:51   touch them and they were just always I [TS]

01:15:53   never made any adjustments of any kind [TS]

01:15:55   to any of my gear I just set all of it [TS]

01:15:58   on 11 and Ben flu you know and so I'm [TS]

01:16:04   thinking to myself maybe this is what [TS]

01:16:05   maybe this guy's one of these guys that [TS]

01:16:07   knows how pedals work that knows how [TS]

01:16:09   knobs work and he's the reason he has [TS]

01:16:12   for delay pedals is that every one of [TS]

01:16:14   them is set to a different thing maybe [TS]

01:16:15   this maybe this guy's the head [TS]

01:16:17   I just thinking maybe it's the edge and [TS]

01:16:18   he's going to pull out something I've [TS]

01:16:20   never heard before [TS]

01:16:21   yeah and so we start playing and the [TS]

01:16:23   first song we play is unsalted butter [TS]

01:16:25   western state hurricanes version not [TS]

01:16:28   long winters version western state [TS]

01:16:30   version was was more rock and roll but [TS]

01:16:33   still like bow no don't it's like it's [TS]

01:16:38   like a tune with a bow bouncing little [TS]

01:16:41   melody and this guy starts to play the [TS]

01:16:44   rhythm part and within 45 seconds he has [TS]

01:16:49   found a reason to turn every petal on [TS]

01:16:51   it's got the flanger and he's going Wow [TS]

01:16:58   and so we get to the end of the song is [TS]

01:17:01   just ripping my face often we get this [TS]

01:17:03   on I was like well that shit this thing [TS]

01:17:06   and it that's why don't we move on and [TS]

01:17:10   we'll we'll try something that's a [TS]

01:17:12   little bit you know a little bit softer [TS]

01:17:13   a little bit more melodic this is gotta [TS]

01:17:15   sort of more about like a it's more a [TS]

01:17:18   cleaner tone he's like okay great great [TS]

01:17:21   cool and we start playing you know some [TS]

01:17:23   we start playing [TS]

01:17:24   through with love or whatever some song [TS]

01:17:26   that's like that's got a pretty pretty [TS]

01:17:29   bouncy beat and it's very cordial and [TS]

01:17:32   within 45 seconds he's just all and the [TS]

01:17:41   entire rehearsal was like this he just [TS]

01:17:43   he season to taste and by season to [TS]

01:17:46   taste he meant all 21 pedals on at all [TS]

01:17:50   times but at the end of every song he [TS]

01:17:53   turned everyone of a month like somehow [TS]

01:17:55   it's about choc chocolate touch the [TS]

01:17:58   launchpad of like starting the tune and [TS]

01:18:01   then hitting each pedal bum like that [TS]

01:18:03   was his tone was like I don't I really [TS]

01:18:06   don't think that this is what what is [TS]

01:18:08   that the obvious reason you already know [TS]

01:18:09   why I'm asking this they didn't have a [TS]

01:18:11   board was the first of all it sounds [TS]

01:18:12   like he's in his mom's basement where he [TS]

01:18:15   has a lot of control over what he does [TS]

01:18:16   if he had done that a lot and it played [TS]

01:18:18   a lot of live shows with that shit he [TS]

01:18:21   would have a board but also in my head [TS]

01:18:24   I'm thinking this is 11 points of [TS]

01:18:26   failure [TS]

01:18:27   yeah because I mean I i mean i guess you [TS]

01:18:29   know when i played with pedals in the [TS]

01:18:31   past maybe I'm old and this technology [TS]

01:18:33   has improved but there were some things [TS]

01:18:35   where like if that battery died you lost [TS]

01:18:37   the signal [TS]

01:18:38   yeah it was it wasn't just that your [TS]

01:18:39   face shifter wasn't as good you had you [TS]

01:18:42   i mean if it was if it went out and did [TS]

01:18:44   not take this rig on the road it would [TS]

01:18:46   be impossible [TS]

01:18:47   I mean if you're okay so if you're [TS]

01:18:49   Charles bissell who by the way who's [TS]

01:18:51   they might be giants cover of the [TS]

01:18:52   endocrine is pretty great but if you're [TS]

01:18:54   if you're coming boy literally best [TS]

01:18:56   nickname pedal boy trusted friends like [TS]

01:18:58   a you you know he does magic with that [TS]

01:19:01   stuff what he does is very very unusual [TS]

01:19:04   it doesn't you think I mean I know it's [TS]

01:19:06   not everybody's taste they want to [TS]

01:19:07   personally my favorite bands but I mean [TS]

01:19:09   here's the thing about Charles and you [TS]

01:19:12   know this from firsthand experience and [TS]

01:19:13   Charles has a Stratocaster plug directly [TS]

01:19:15   into a fender twin he makes it sound [TS]

01:19:19   incredible [TS]

01:19:20   he's a guitar teacher and he plays like [TS]

01:19:23   one his playing is impeccable and he [TS]

01:19:27   does shit that I would never tell [TS]

01:19:28   anybody in their first five years of [TS]

01:19:30   guitar playing what if i told you to do [TS]

01:19:32   that thing we go hog across above the [TS]

01:19:35   neck [TS]

01:19:36   yeah like you don't want to do that [TS]

01:19:37   Charles and Eddie Van Halen nobody else [TS]

01:19:39   is allowed to do that ever [TS]

01:19:41   well I do it sometimes when I'm really [TS]

01:19:43   you know when i'm really 14 your glasses [TS]

01:19:45   fall off again or I'm really the rusting [TS]

01:19:48   or that time trusting my pants zipper at [TS]

01:19:51   the people who probably video of their [TS]

01:19:53   hurricanes on that TV show when you [TS]

01:19:55   couldn't go huh yeah and man is that was [TS]

01:19:58   it was it like that when you guys were [TS]

01:19:59   always play like was nor was the [TS]

01:20:01   chuckles all right [TS]

01:20:02   yah my glasses would fly across the [TS]

01:20:03   stage or something and-and-and toward [TS]

01:20:05   the last for the end of the rest and [TS]

01:20:08   hurricanes run we start we get halfway [TS]

01:20:10   through Nora and and everybody else in [TS]

01:20:13   the band would like go to the outside [TS]

01:20:16   edge of the stage and kind of cower [TS]

01:20:18   behind their amps because they knew that [TS]

01:20:20   I was about kind of cycle devil dogs [TS]

01:20:24   were in the pots that was at a time when [TS]

01:20:26   I was I had stopped drinking and doing [TS]

01:20:28   drugs but i still had a tremendous [TS]

01:20:29   kinetic energy inside me right that only [TS]

01:20:33   came out in rock and roll and it came [TS]

01:20:36   out as a kind of violent explosion of [TS]

01:20:38   clothes like everything together [TS]

01:20:44   sorry it's either naked gay [TS]

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