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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 64: "Sunset University"

 

00:00:00   [Music] [TS]

00:00:05   hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:09   good my got my settings all screwed up [TS]

00:00:12   here i have to adjust my settings check [TS]

00:00:14   the little music [TS]

00:00:16   yeah your presence setting adjustment [TS]

00:00:19   music i can do that in it and then I was [TS]

00:00:23   at an architectural salvage yard the [TS]

00:00:25   other day [TS]

00:00:26   of course you are and I was digging [TS]

00:00:28   through some bins and there was a whole [TS]

00:00:30   bin of old old headphones like you would [TS]

00:00:35   see you would see in a secretarial pool [TS]

00:00:38   or a library you know like that funds [TS]

00:00:42   were used in in the library [TS]

00:00:44   Oh with the like plasticky cheap not [TS]

00:00:47   very useful padding correct and I was I [TS]

00:00:50   was digging through these headphones and [TS]

00:00:53   I noticed that they had written on them [TS]

00:00:57   in in black pen the name of my childhood [TS]

00:01:01   elementary school I said sunset on them [TS]

00:01:05   all of them i was looking through my was [TS]

00:01:08   like sunset sunset that couldn't be [TS]

00:01:11   sunset elementary and I walked up to the [TS]

00:01:14   to the gala counter and I was like are [TS]

00:01:17   these did you guys do a salvaged from an [TS]

00:01:19   old elementary school and she said oh [TS]

00:01:21   you have some elementary school up in [TS]

00:01:22   shoreline and I realized these were the [TS]

00:01:24   headphones these were the actual [TS]

00:01:27   headphones in the library of the [TS]

00:01:29   elementary school I went to when I was a [TS]

00:01:30   little kid and lived in seattle so i [TS]

00:01:33   bought them all and now I have all of [TS]

00:01:38   these headphones you you might have [TS]

00:01:41   watched the the world at war with this [TS]

00:01:44   on your head [TS]

00:01:44   absolutely i watched microfiche i [TS]

00:01:48   watched film strips i want to knows what [TS]

00:01:50   I I probably took French lessons anyway [TS]

00:01:53   so i bought these headphones because i [TS]

00:01:56   was so excited to have the you know have [TS]

00:02:00   the real a real artifact of that of that [TS]

00:02:03   school and of course they're terrible [TS]

00:02:05   headphones [TS]

00:02:06   that's no reason that that you know the [TS]

00:02:08   Chinese beat us to the moon [TS]

00:02:12   we were listening to stuff on these [TS]

00:02:15   terrible to any headphones [TS]

00:02:16   well the fidelity is a you know not [TS]

00:02:20   completely up to snuff they're probably [TS]

00:02:21   not which called reference headphones [TS]

00:02:23   right no in fact they are barely a [TS]

00:02:26   minute [TS]

00:02:27   yeah it's a it's like it feels like the [TS]

00:02:31   sound it has to go through a tiny tiny [TS]

00:02:34   pinhole to come out in into your ear [TS]

00:02:38   area so no they're terrible but but i [TS]

00:02:42   love them i have a bunch of them to I'm [TS]

00:02:44   not exactly just say how about how many [TS]

00:02:45   did you pick up [TS]

00:02:47   oh I don't know a bag how much is in a [TS]

00:02:49   bag haha bag is a 5-2 22 yea right so [TS]

00:02:53   between five and twenty two metric or [TS]

00:02:54   imperial an imperial bag [TS]

00:02:57   it's an imperial bank well I don't wanna [TS]

00:02:59   you know making me I hate to state the [TS]

00:03:02   obvious but it seems clear enough to me [TS]

00:03:04   that day she started school I have been [TS]

00:03:07   wanting to start a school my whole adult [TS]

00:03:09   life but you got the headphones i feel [TS]

00:03:12   like that's what that's what we've done [TS]

00:03:13   here Merlin with Roderick on the line we [TS]

00:03:15   have started a school a kind of its it's [TS]

00:03:18   like it's one of those internet colleges [TS]

00:03:21   you know me and I don't like to read a [TS]

00:03:23   to the stating the obvious but the [TS]

00:03:26   university of phoenix really i think [TS]

00:03:30   this is this is we should be just as [TS]

00:03:32   accredited as the University of feeling [TS]

00:03:33   I got a I got a diploma in some bazooka [TS]

00:03:37   joe from Phoenix I'm technically [TS]

00:03:40   electrical electrician now it's been [TS]

00:03:43   electric electrician who got a typo on [TS]

00:03:45   it they meant to say engineer John you [TS]

00:03:51   know I so I don't be too on-the-nose but [TS]

00:03:53   the love of Christ you have to start a [TS]

00:03:55   school and you know really in [TS]

00:03:56   indifference or in honor of of your own [TS]

00:04:00   sunset time you know and just what it's [TS]

00:04:03   worth I make a creepy you know I [TS]

00:04:04   neighborhood I live in is called the [TS]

00:04:05   sunset so you could have a satellite [TS]

00:04:07   location here at sunset [TS]

00:04:10   yeah I means a costly place to build [TS]

00:04:11   anything but I you know I think once [TS]

00:04:13   you've got the sunk cost of the [TS]

00:04:14   headphones taken care of [TS]

00:04:16   ok just to show people John people are i [TS]

00:04:18   say this with roo because of the fact [TS]

00:04:22   that we're going through this right now [TS]

00:04:23   but it's a real pain in the butt to get [TS]

00:04:25   into a school is [TS]

00:04:26   huge pain in the butt to get into a good [TS]

00:04:28   school and it's an extreme rarity to get [TS]

00:04:30   into a John Roderick school [TS]

00:04:32   well I feel like if I named at sunset [TS]

00:04:34   university you know that it's already [TS]

00:04:38   sort of like very inviting to him to an [TS]

00:04:42   older demographic but it's like it's [TS]

00:04:46   these are the sunset years of your [TS]

00:04:49   education come to sunset University [TS]

00:04:52   where the chairs are comfortable and the [TS]

00:04:54   headphones are like you had an [TS]

00:04:57   elementary school [TS]

00:04:58   that's a little long but haha but you [TS]

00:05:02   know you ever ever get a get a pizza and [TS]

00:05:04   it says on the box [TS]

00:05:05   you've tried the rest now try the best [TS]

00:05:07   of course every pizza box says that it's [TS]

00:05:10   not probably entirely true but I mean [TS]

00:05:12   again I don't think you have to be the [TS]

00:05:14   best pizza place in order to order those [TS]

00:05:15   boxes and by the same token let's be [TS]

00:05:17   honest it's not you know this is not the [TS]

00:05:19   19th century I think you can literally [TS]

00:05:21   call yourself university without any of [TS]

00:05:24   fear of you know contradiction anybody [TS]

00:05:27   universities like me a doctor you just [TS]

00:05:29   say it [TS]

00:05:29   yeah well it's like it's like they say [TS]

00:05:31   about when you and your friend a me to [TS]

00:05:35   bear on the trail [TS]

00:05:36   you don't have to be faster than the [TS]

00:05:38   bear you just have to be faster than [TS]

00:05:39   your friend that's a great joke i love [TS]

00:05:41   that check is true it's adding that and [TS]

00:05:43   that would be the model of sunset [TS]

00:05:44   university we have to translate in the [TS]

00:05:46   Latin ok you know [TS]

00:05:48   faster faster scum bear just have to be [TS]

00:05:51   faster than the fingers I like this is [TS]

00:05:54   why bring a pizza is because what you're [TS]

00:05:56   really saying is you've tried the rest [TS]

00:05:58   now I try the literally the final school [TS]

00:06:01   you go to its the Sun sets the last [TS]

00:06:03   school you need you've been taught you [TS]

00:06:04   been to a lot of colleges presumably if [TS]

00:06:06   you're listening to this podcast you [TS]

00:06:07   have either been to a lot of colleges [TS]

00:06:09   and none of them have met your needs or [TS]

00:06:12   you haven't been any colleges you're [TS]

00:06:15   very curious about them [TS]

00:06:16   yeah you have the kind of nine job where [TS]

00:06:18   you can listen to an hour and a half of [TS]

00:06:20   help from somebody never met [TS]

00:06:21   I mean a lot of people who haven't been [TS]

00:06:23   to college good you know they say that [TS]

00:06:25   did it that everybody's been to college [TS]

00:06:28   now but I meet people all the time [TS]

00:06:29   they've never been to concentrate costly [TS]

00:06:30   John colleges costly it's not worth [TS]

00:06:33   anything and I was going the other day [TS]

00:06:36   yeah i'm sorry please continue Matt I'm [TS]

00:06:39   I'm an Australian couple who are [TS]

00:06:40   traveling in America and they had two [TS]

00:06:42   teenage daughters [TS]

00:06:43   well one was a teenager 13 and the other [TS]

00:06:45   was nine neither kid had ever been to a [TS]

00:06:47   school they just were educated by their [TS]

00:06:52   parents and travel around together and [TS]

00:06:55   they weren't even hippies they were a [TS]

00:06:56   little bit Punk a lie saying they had [TS]

00:06:59   bad they were they were all wearing the [TS]

00:07:01   entire family mom dad and both daughters [TS]

00:07:03   worry doc martens which is e I don't [TS]

00:07:08   know that's that's that's a start if I [TS]

00:07:09   know if I know what your special things [TS]

00:07:11   are that that's a start and you know if [TS]

00:07:14   you know this isn't that wouldn't [TS]

00:07:16   necessarily be one of those we keep them [TS]

00:07:17   out of the schools because of the Menace [TS]

00:07:20   of creationism they might actually be [TS]

00:07:22   doing it's not that hard to do a better [TS]

00:07:23   job than school right now which is all [TS]

00:07:25   the more reason for you to start one [TS]

00:07:26   it's an opportunity you know apple says [TS]

00:07:27   hey you know you've never really loved [TS]

00:07:30   your phone before let's let's give you [TS]

00:07:31   something that you can really use in [TS]

00:07:33   this case maybe the reason that you've [TS]

00:07:35   stayed at a school as you say it's never [TS]

00:07:36   met your needs or your children scenes [TS]

00:07:38   you know you know what they need you [TS]

00:07:41   should be you should be the one that's [TS]

00:07:42   helping them matriculate I was having [TS]

00:07:44   another time travel dream the other day [TS]

00:07:45   except in this case i time-traveled back [TS]

00:07:48   to high school but I looked like I was [TS]

00:07:52   in high school i time-traveled back into [TS]

00:07:54   my high school body and was trying to [TS]

00:07:57   think if I would do a better job than I [TS]

00:08:00   did or if I would fuck it up even worse [TS]

00:08:02   i eat lighter still out i have lots of [TS]

00:08:08   dreams really really dream about five [TS]

00:08:11   things and one of them is a kind of time [TS]

00:08:14   travel I in James I only ever go to [TS]

00:08:16   shopping malls high school my college [TS]

00:08:18   church camp and an egg donation the mall [TS]

00:08:23   the mall with those are those are the [TS]

00:08:24   five dreams or that is one kind of dream [TS]

00:08:26   time travel dream and you don't remember [TS]

00:08:28   on that well in the Ringling Museum in [TS]

00:08:30   sarasota that's the only is the only [TS]

00:08:31   places i go in dreams and it's usually [TS]

00:08:33   I'd like a dark ride at Disneyworld like [TS]

00:08:35   it's a small world but with you know [TS]

00:08:37   rubenesque women painting but time [TS]

00:08:40   travel features heavily a dream I've had [TS]

00:08:41   a lot [TS]

00:08:42   yes naked yes flying but also the the [TS]

00:08:45   precise of the dream you describe which [TS]

00:08:47   is going back to school but like being [TS]

00:08:50   me now and I'm just contain for myself [TS]

00:08:52   the ones like [TS]

00:08:52   and remember i do equally as poorly [TS]

00:08:55   because i'm essentially the same person [TS]

00:08:57   it's just a little heavier with [TS]

00:08:58   different pants yeah i think i think i [TS]

00:09:01   would I think I probably get more tail [TS]

00:09:04   than I did in high school because [TS]

00:09:06   because in all honesty this makes this [TS]

00:09:09   may shock you but I got zero tail in [TS]

00:09:11   high school and that's hard to believe [TS]

00:09:13   0p what Kelly that you know are [TS]

00:09:17   purchasing doctor now so we should [TS]

00:09:20   probably meet mr. around that will know [TS]

00:09:22   she's a doctor now so she knows [TS]

00:09:23   presumably now she knows about the human [TS]

00:09:26   anatomy [TS]

00:09:27   she's had two kids but you know at the [TS]

00:09:30   time at the time i think i had this [TS]

00:09:33   sense that good kids didn't go too far i [TS]

00:09:39   was very you know I was very governed he [TS]

00:09:42   said you said on previous occasions we [TS]

00:09:44   went think we've agreed that we felt we [TS]

00:09:46   both felt put off by the people who were [TS]

00:09:49   getting tell whether that was men women [TS]

00:09:51   or otherwise we felt we felt I felt sort [TS]

00:09:54   of betrayed you think white people who [TS]

00:09:56   were able to smoke pot and fingerbang I [TS]

00:09:58   never I never had access to that and now [TS]

00:10:01   today I understand that people let's be [TS]

00:10:03   honest want to be finger-banged there [TS]

00:10:06   aren't that many there aren't that many [TS]

00:10:07   people who don't want a little bit of [TS]

00:10:08   finger banging and i know that i don't [TS]

00:10:10   have to make it weird but now I know [TS]

00:10:12   that we talking with something we've [TS]

00:10:13   discussed is that it for me going to [TS]

00:10:15   college just made it worse that feeling [TS]

00:10:17   i just described then it then it had [TS]

00:10:18   some kind of like brassy patina of [TS]

00:10:20   political correctness to it and you know [TS]

00:10:22   i would you finger banging but i would [TS]

00:10:24   feel bad about it sometimes you know but [TS]

00:10:26   when i first went to college all that [TS]

00:10:28   the only difference between college and [TS]

00:10:30   high school is that that girls were [TS]

00:10:33   wearing a lot more perfume they were [TS]

00:10:36   they were using their that there was a [TS]

00:10:38   there was a lot there was a thick layer [TS]

00:10:39   of obsession in the air it's not like [TS]

00:10:42   there was more in college more perfume [TS]

00:10:45   in college is right my girlfriend as [TS]

00:10:48   enormous serial monogamist my first [TS]

00:10:51   girlfriend who became my first college [TS]

00:10:52   girlfriend during the first week of [TS]

00:10:54   school big comic line obsession user [TS]

00:10:57   it's still absolute still when I smell [TS]

00:11:00   that and thank God people don't worry so [TS]

00:11:01   much anymore cause i have a great sense [TS]

00:11:03   memory of it like listen to the cars and [TS]

00:11:04   finger banging [TS]

00:11:05   but you know I can do she was really [TS]

00:11:09   nice jam boxes that could play cassette [TS]

00:11:10   on repeat and back then you know girl [TS]

00:11:14   yeah I didn't even need to drink a lot [TS]

00:11:15   of water and rest then I i went to a [TS]

00:11:19   Catholic school for the first two years [TS]

00:11:20   of college as you know and really [TS]

00:11:23   Catholic school Catholic universities [TS]

00:11:25   are a place where people really really [TS]

00:11:28   drink a lot and have a lot of reckless [TS]

00:11:31   sex with one another because it's it's a [TS]

00:11:35   it's like when Amish kids go get kicked [TS]

00:11:38   out of the of their Amish town from [TS]

00:11:40   springing and it's it's definitely think [TS]

00:11:43   that's the Catholic Rumspringa and they [TS]

00:11:46   go to college and advice i think the [TS]

00:11:48   expectation is by junior year you will [TS]

00:11:51   have found the person that you want to [TS]

00:11:53   marry but that first two years it's just [TS]

00:11:56   their people are just throwing down [TS]

00:11:59   Jenna tonic and then and then and then [TS]

00:12:03   hooking up [TS]

00:12:04   it's basically like hooking up if you [TS]

00:12:07   took if you have a if you had a frog [TS]

00:12:09   cannon if you have let's say you had to [TS]

00:12:11   frog cannons and a sex thing and they [TS]

00:12:14   were aimed at each other no it's a [TS]

00:12:16   cannon that shoots frogs [TS]

00:12:17   ok any and then they were about that but [TS]

00:12:20   it shoots like multiple frogs at once [TS]

00:12:22   automatic weapon notice that they're not [TS]

00:12:25   it's not identidad I it's like a [TS]

00:12:26   blunderbuss of frog how like a double [TS]

00:12:28   double barreled frog [TS]

00:12:30   well except you're shooting and shooting [TS]

00:12:31   like shotgun frogs so it's alright let's [TS]

00:12:34   say you can shoot 25 frogs out of this [TS]

00:12:37   Canyon and you have two of those [TS]

00:12:39   pointing at each other they're kinda not [TS]

00:12:41   pointed directly at each other pointed [TS]

00:12:42   up in the air but in opposite ways and [TS]

00:12:45   shooting 25 frogs at a time in in two [TS]

00:12:49   different directions some of those frogs [TS]

00:12:50   are going to hit and that is what sex at [TS]

00:12:53   a catholic university is like so like [TS]

00:12:55   the cold war em don't you think I'm [TS]

00:12:59   talking to my knowledge is like the cold [TS]

00:13:01   war not well I mean the elements of it [TS]

00:13:03   not the actual you know XD an analogy I [TS]

00:13:06   don't derail you but I mean that seems [TS]

00:13:08   like the cold war you put a frog can we [TS]

00:13:09   got a frog can get bigger fraud cannon [TS]

00:13:12   yeah baby frog cannons Georgetown you're [TS]

00:13:15   the one who runs the school but it seems [TS]

00:13:17   to me that [TS]

00:13:18   if you're one of those people who don't [TS]

00:13:19   you get a lot of old Catholics running [TS]

00:13:21   the school wants to get a lot of as I'd [TS]

00:13:22   like guys in their sixties like it seems [TS]

00:13:24   to me that if you've got that continuity [TS]

00:13:25   of care over many many years they know [TS]

00:13:29   that there's some fraud can is being [TS]

00:13:30   shot over the well thats related to me [TS]

00:13:33   when I first arrived at Gonzaga [TS]

00:13:35   University where I spent my first two [TS]

00:13:37   years of college or my first year and a [TS]

00:13:38   half before i was asked to that's the [TS]

00:13:41   part it was explained to me that there [TS]

00:13:44   are two types of judgments and the one [TS]

00:13:47   type of Jesuits the one type of judgment [TS]

00:13:49   is the is the into the hyper [TS]

00:13:52   intellectual homosexual man who is [TS]

00:13:55   either who was either put into the [TS]

00:13:58   priesthood by you know by they're [TS]

00:13:59   terrified parents or was like he had her [TS]

00:14:03   older brother who was going to inherit [TS]

00:14:05   the family business and he ends up you [TS]

00:14:08   know going into the priesthood so you [TS]

00:14:09   know it's the very traditional societies [TS]

00:14:11   are the other half of the judgments or [TS]

00:14:14   the other percent i don't know if it's a [TS]

00:14:16   half it seems like it was about half so [TS]

00:14:18   half of my professors were incredibly [TS]

00:14:20   smart clearly gay priests who wanted to [TS]

00:14:24   just lived at this incredibly like [TS]

00:14:27   diverse intellectual life the other half [TS]

00:14:30   of the judgments were former jocks like [TS]

00:14:34   football players and like just jocks [TS]

00:14:39   that came up in Catholic school athletic [TS]

00:14:41   programs basket famous basketball [TS]

00:14:43   players or whatever and when they're [TS]

00:14:45   athletic career was over they just sort [TS]

00:14:49   of were brought for kept in the church [TS]

00:14:52   family brought back in and given a life [TS]

00:14:55   in the Jesuitical order so for instance [TS]

00:15:00   the president of the University while i [TS]

00:15:02   was there everybody on campus recognized [TS]

00:15:04   that he was from the jock side of the [TS]

00:15:07   Jesuits and nobody had any respect for [TS]

00:15:10   him as a as a thinker but he was a [TS]

00:15:12   glad-hander and a and a backslapper and [TS]

00:15:15   and a fundraiser and you know and so all [TS]

00:15:20   the all the intellectual like queer [TS]

00:15:23   Jesuits were very contemptuous of of [TS]

00:15:26   that side of the the order [TS]

00:15:29   I never understood it because it seems [TS]

00:15:31   like to become a judgment took years and [TS]

00:15:33   years and years of study and and whatnot [TS]

00:15:36   but then as time went on I realized it [TS]

00:15:38   does take years of study but there's [TS]

00:15:40   only one book the body [TS]

00:15:43   yeah yeah yeah so mean you study that be [TS]

00:15:46   it doesn't even if you're even if you're [TS]

00:15:48   like a dumb basketball kicker right you [TS]

00:15:51   can over the course of five years you [TS]

00:15:54   know it's not like you're expected to [TS]

00:15:56   understand Chasseur like and james joyce [TS]

00:15:59   expendable you can spend a lot of time [TS]

00:16:01   getting good at that one thing [TS]

00:16:03   yeah you just memorize the one book and [TS]

00:16:04   you seem like you and said that's it's [TS]

00:16:06   true it's true of all religions you [TS]

00:16:08   memorize one book and then when when [TS]

00:16:11   anybody says anything to you just say [TS]

00:16:13   something out of the book and it seems [TS]

00:16:14   like you're a genius [TS]

00:16:16   the same anyway we're going to figure [TS]

00:16:19   out at sunset university what are [TS]

00:16:21   equivalent like demographic split is our [TS]

00:16:25   equivalent sort of professorial we need [TS]

00:16:27   I feel like I feel like any university [TS]

00:16:29   needs tension between be X professors [TS]

00:16:32   and why professor you need McCartney's [TS]

00:16:35   and lands we need McCartney's and lemons [TS]

00:16:37   right icon their own they'll do stuff [TS]

00:16:40   but when you combined the jocks and and [TS]

00:16:43   the scholars let's say you miss them [TS]

00:16:48   when you get your rocks and scholars [TS]

00:16:50   working together I mean it's like you [TS]

00:16:51   need two hands [TS]

00:16:52   I feel like I feel like one side of [TS]

00:16:54   sunset university should be prissy Bay [TS]

00:16:58   Area software people who who are really [TS]

00:17:02   uncomfortable when we started you know [TS]

00:17:04   when we when we go off book but who are [TS]

00:17:09   secretly titillated by it [TS]

00:17:10   mm-hmm and then I think that's a great [TS]

00:17:14   way to be you you pick up a lot of [TS]

00:17:16   interesting stuff with that attitude i [TS]

00:17:18   think my experience yeah and then the [TS]

00:17:21   other half of the professor's should be [TS]

00:17:22   like [TS]

00:17:25   you're talking about you're talking [TS]

00:17:26   about the faculty talk about the faculty [TS]

00:17:28   of these would be actually likes [TS]

00:17:29   literally separate wings separate wings [TS]

00:17:31   that the prissy prissy Bay Area software [TS]

00:17:35   designers who secretly you know get a [TS]

00:17:38   get a chubby when when the rules get [TS]

00:17:41   broken but they can't they can't really [TS]

00:17:43   admit it and then the other half are [TS]

00:17:44   like wild man fischer types who who [TS]

00:17:49   probably have never been to college [TS]

00:17:50   themselves but you know where you know [TS]

00:17:54   40 for a while we're living in a tree [TS]

00:17:55   outside of jackson hole and then they [TS]

00:17:58   you know they had checked down to Mexico [TS]

00:18:00   and they they built a stone fortress out [TS]

00:18:03   of broken seashells and then they you [TS]

00:18:06   know where a whitewater river rafting [TS]

00:18:08   guide guys like that I can lay my hands [TS]

00:18:10   on some guys like that and if I may say [TS]

00:18:13   that they represent at least two of the [TS]

00:18:17   many facets of your personality because [TS]

00:18:19   you're you are very learning McCartney [TS]

00:18:21   in many ways and then the other hand I [TS]

00:18:23   will call you a jock but but you're [TS]

00:18:25   certainly the kind of man that would [TS]

00:18:26   travel in a fugue state and having those [TS]

00:18:28   together with a be decorated differently [TS]

00:18:29   the two wings but they reflect the [TS]

00:18:31   interests of the faculty and then those [TS]

00:18:33   sensibilities you have to bend you have [TS]

00:18:35   to put the two wings together and you [TS]

00:18:36   have to pretend that everybody's the [TS]

00:18:39   same same chairs same chalkboard exactly [TS]

00:18:43   because without that with it if the [TS]

00:18:46   wings were just divided then they would [TS]

00:18:48   be at war with one another or they would [TS]

00:18:50   be like openly would be openly hostile [TS]

00:18:53   was like the tyranny of public restrooms [TS]

00:18:55   right you got an icon on the door you [TS]

00:18:58   have witnessed United bolinas here is [TS]

00:19:00   your restroom and in this case it's [TS]

00:19:02   really it's like one large unisex [TS]

00:19:03   bathroom we're just gonna have to go in [TS]

00:19:05   there one who was there before you write [TS]

00:19:07   that's pretty good [TS]

00:19:08   well I don't want to get back swing back [TS]

00:19:10   to two finger banging too fast but you [TS]

00:19:12   know girls have a weakness to it's just [TS]

00:19:14   a spritz of months but you going it's an [TS]

00:19:16   onboard is on your penis [TS]

00:19:18   yeah retractable penis well I mean I [TS]

00:19:21   think it's a terrific idea in ways that [TS]

00:19:22   i am sure you understand I mean you [TS]

00:19:24   obviously have so much to share with [TS]

00:19:25   people and if anything it's just that [TS]

00:19:28   you really need you need the platform [TS]

00:19:30   for that i'm not i'm not entirely sure [TS]

00:19:33   what the sort of monetary model would be [TS]

00:19:35   you could probably get some of those [TS]

00:19:37   friends [TS]

00:19:38   viewers to to write some grants or some [TS]

00:19:41   may be retired senators who would want [TS]

00:19:43   to have their name on an arch or [TS]

00:19:45   something [TS]

00:19:45   I mean you you've walked in the [TS]

00:19:47   corridors of power you know a lot of [TS]

00:19:48   people you know you know the mayor there [TS]

00:19:49   you know the rock'n'roll county [TS]

00:19:50   Administrator you know a lot of people [TS]

00:19:52   that but none of those people have any [TS]

00:19:54   money they can accredited yes but that [TS]

00:19:56   you know it's a facebook friend of a [TS]

00:19:57   friend they could go and talk to people [TS]

00:19:58   in the deeper corridors of power who [TS]

00:20:02   have access something on this [TS]

00:20:04   I've been I've been starting this [TS]

00:20:06   whisper campaign for months suggesting [TS]

00:20:09   that I be appointed to the board of [TS]

00:20:11   directors of some hot up-and-coming [TS]

00:20:13   software company and I've gotten got a [TS]

00:20:16   few nibbles yeah but it's have that [TS]

00:20:18   counts as a whisper but you couldn't [TS]

00:20:20   kill babies [TS]

00:20:21   nobody's pulled the trigger yet I feel [TS]

00:20:24   like you know these are my primary simit [TS]

00:20:26   are wielding year john this is this is [TS]

00:20:28   this is a huge part of the problem it's [TS]

00:20:30   like going it's like it you know when I [TS]

00:20:31   want him to counseling my kids and [TS]

00:20:33   they're worried wondering about like how [TS]

00:20:34   to make the job that are like should I [TS]

00:20:36   should I want better stuff today ask for [TS]

00:20:38   a raise like no you should counseling [TS]

00:20:40   your kids you know the you know the [TS]

00:20:42   answers the listeners and and my things [TS]

00:20:45   like to talk about Merlin's kids [TS]

00:20:47   yeah i do that often every year I yell [TS]

00:20:50   at people have a like a like a chance of [TS]

00:20:53   help I didn't realize that you bet you [TS]

00:20:55   that you thought of your listeners as [TS]

00:20:56   your kids that's really sweet [TS]

00:20:58   yeah yeah well you know I don't want I [TS]

00:21:00   don't want to be you know condescending [TS]

00:21:01   but I think of them as Morales kids a [TS]

00:21:03   lot of ways i like that i cannot make [TS]

00:21:05   goofy faces and they kind of a free hand [TS]

00:21:07   gesture where my hands all limp the only [TS]

00:21:10   for some vinegar and some baking powder [TS]

00:21:12   but my personal life I collect cards [TS]

00:21:17   here the but here's the thing [TS]

00:21:19   so here's the problem with these suckers [TS]

00:21:20   in this is true Eastern schools you know [TS]

00:21:23   it's true and work and for the love of [TS]

00:21:24   Christ you've taught us that this is the [TS]

00:21:26   case in rock is that is that there are [TS]

00:21:27   people out there who are waiting for [TS]

00:21:29   their benediction they're waiting for [TS]

00:21:31   their Bazooka Joe that's going to tell [TS]

00:21:32   them that their electric electrician and [TS]

00:21:34   what they never think to do is go out [TS]

00:21:35   and just get it and I'm talking about [TS]

00:21:37   like to follow your dreams i'm talking [TS]

00:21:39   about you go out and do that thing [TS]

00:21:40   you're you're not going to get you're [TS]

00:21:44   not going to get the kind of position [TS]

00:21:45   where you wield power by asking for it [TS]

00:21:47   and in in this instance this is why I [TS]

00:21:50   think you showing up and about [TS]

00:21:51   Roman cemetery and literally at the [TS]

00:21:53   meeting is going to have is gonna be [TS]

00:21:54   much more impactful than saying may I [TS]

00:21:56   have permission to bring a cemetery your [TS]

00:21:58   building [TS]

00:21:58   you're absolutely right I you know that [TS]

00:22:00   this is not something i'm going to give [TS]

00:22:01   you a note here i'm just saying that you [TS]

00:22:03   understand as a man in a man of power [TS]

00:22:05   that you don't go in and ask to be [TS]

00:22:07   empowered it's true that the true i was [TS]

00:22:09   thinking about this the other day you [TS]

00:22:10   know Eddie Murphy recorded raw when he [TS]

00:22:15   was 21 years old 20 even and we are [TS]

00:22:23   still listening to and debating and [TS]

00:22:26   arguing about music that the Beatles [TS]

00:22:27   made when they were at similar same age [TS]

00:22:33   and like I've said before I encounter [TS]

00:22:37   sometimes 20 21 year olds who are fully [TS]

00:22:42   adult fully they're fully actualized [TS]

00:22:46   they do not appear to be wrestling with [TS]

00:22:48   how do i how do I keep from crying in [TS]

00:22:55   public they do not seem to be wrestling [TS]

00:22:57   with like because I got a tumblr they [TS]

00:23:01   put another tumblr haha like it took me [TS]

00:23:05   years to understand that any given meal [TS]

00:23:10   that you eat out in restaurants with a [TS]

00:23:12   group of other people you should always [TS]

00:23:14   a put in more money than you oh and be [TS]

00:23:20   potentially you should just buy the [TS]

00:23:24   dinner [TS]

00:23:24   ah John you should just buy the dinner [TS]

00:23:26   honorable this is this is core [TS]

00:23:29   curriculum [TS]

00:23:30   I mean it should be in the freaking [TS]

00:23:31   orientation iĆ­ve talked about this but [TS]

00:23:33   we would go out to eat I think it was [TS]

00:23:35   this when I have my real job back in [TS]

00:23:37   Florida and we got to go to some some [TS]

00:23:39   like sushi BBQ place or whatever there's [TS]

00:23:41   always like a couple guys who bill would [TS]

00:23:43   come they'd be a min me and they take [TS]

00:23:45   out there you know he'll packard [TS]

00:23:46   calculator and want to like break it [TS]

00:23:48   down and like you know I mean who had [TS]

00:23:51   more edamame or whatever and and I would [TS]

00:23:54   be like look this is back on took work [TS]

00:23:56   seriously i would look guys let's just [TS]

00:23:59   either split it anyways or please litter [TS]

00:24:02   I cannot spell [TS]

00:24:04   and my twenties listen to you guys argue [TS]

00:24:06   over a six-dollar tab [TS]

00:24:07   hand me the bill I will pay it we will [TS]

00:24:09   never discuss it again and you move on [TS]

00:24:12   you know anything is a little party [TS]

00:24:14   Don't Ask Don't Ask if you should bring [TS]

00:24:16   ice always bring ice don't don't don't [TS]

00:24:18   ask if you should take out the trash [TS]

00:24:21   don't worry grab the trash you can find [TS]

00:24:23   the trash cans they're either in the [TS]

00:24:24   garage or more likely outside you still [TS]

00:24:26   see forty-year-olds the bill comes and [TS]

00:24:30   they are you know they're looking at [TS]

00:24:32   this bill on the table like it contains [TS]

00:24:35   some hieroglyphic information that [TS]

00:24:37   they're afraid you know they're going [TS]

00:24:39   they're afraid it's going to get [TS]

00:24:40   translated by the wrong scientists and [TS]

00:24:43   and you know we're going to instead of [TS]

00:24:46   instead of animating the good God we're [TS]

00:24:48   going to animate the bad god oh you grab [TS]

00:24:51   the the abnormal brain right exactly and [TS]

00:24:55   so and this you know this this little [TS]

00:24:57   piece of paper that is telling everybody [TS]

00:24:59   that they owed want somewhere between 21 [TS]

00:25:02   and 27 dollars each is vibrating on the [TS]

00:25:06   table in you know that and some people [TS]

00:25:09   some people are actually levitating it [TS]

00:25:10   with their anxiety and it's like you [TS]

00:25:13   know 27 bucks round you know around 30 [TS]

00:25:19   please just put out a plan $40 didn't [TS]

00:25:22   just throw the money down and go on with [TS]

00:25:25   your life and it says it that that kind [TS]

00:25:27   of anxiety about money was a thing that [TS]

00:25:29   I walked into adulthood with I walked [TS]

00:25:33   into being a twenty-one-year-old with [TS]

00:25:36   this feeling this this hyper [TS]

00:25:38   consciousness that I didn't want to get [TS]

00:25:41   short changed that and and and money [TS]

00:25:44   seem to be the the the language that [TS]

00:25:48   human beings used to determine like who [TS]

00:25:52   was getting over on who and so I spy [TS]

00:25:56   wasted so many years trying to make sure [TS]

00:25:59   that i didn't get I didn't get [TS]

00:26:02   short-changed thirty cents when all [TS]

00:26:05   along the simple wisdom that you should [TS]

00:26:10   you should paper the [TS]

00:26:13   the path in front of you with your [TS]

00:26:16   gratuities you should put your money to [TS]

00:26:19   work in MN your number the number one [TS]

00:26:23   usefulness of money is to make your [TS]

00:26:25   anxiety about money go away like here it [TS]

00:26:28   is here's here's forty dollars [TS]

00:26:30   I'm not like you say I never want to [TS]

00:26:32   speak of this again and and learning [TS]

00:26:36   that was a was this you know this [TS]

00:26:38   turning point for me but it came too [TS]

00:26:40   late to to have that information when i [TS]

00:26:42   was 20 21 years old to just free up my [TS]

00:26:47   spirit so that I was not walking around [TS]

00:26:50   all the time [TS]

00:26:51   I mean I i would go I would show up in a [TS]

00:26:54   town the rain would be pouring down i [TS]

00:26:57   would be soaked to the skin it would be [TS]

00:26:58   eleven o'clock at night that would be in [TS]

00:27:01   Spain and I would see this you know [TS]

00:27:05   little little side Pensione and I would [TS]

00:27:07   walk up three flights of stairs I would [TS]

00:27:09   knock on the door and the little Spanish [TS]

00:27:12   woman would open the door should go see [TS]

00:27:14   i would say you know you have a chambre [TS]

00:27:19   LOL casa de chambre portal or the exact [TS]

00:27:25   NASA dealt a fake it [TS]

00:27:27   yeah and and she would say you know yes [TS]

00:27:30   it's a 1500 per se disz or something [TS]

00:27:35   like that and i would happen in my mind [TS]

00:27:38   that our room was the room should be [TS]

00:27:42   thirteen hundred percent is our 13,000 [TS]

00:27:44   percentage women and I would and I would [TS]

00:27:47   try and haggle with her but I was a bad [TS]

00:27:50   Hagler and she would say no sorry it's [TS]

00:27:53   that's the price it's eleven o'clock at [TS]

00:27:56   night and you're standing in the hallway [TS]

00:27:58   here dripping wet and it's this much [TS]

00:28:00   money [TS]

00:28:01   and i would say well no then and turn [TS]

00:28:07   around and walk the five flights back [TS]

00:28:10   down into the rainy night and sometimes [TS]

00:28:12   walk around the town for another two [TS]

00:28:15   hours late but you get you one but i [TS]

00:28:18   want you know and I'm looking for this [TS]

00:28:20   magic room that that was going to save [TS]

00:28:23   me two dollars and sometimes the great [TS]

00:28:26   those through the greatest nights of my [TS]

00:28:28   life for when I ended up back at that [TS]

00:28:30   woman store two hours later ringing the [TS]

00:28:33   buzzer and she wouldn't answer and all [TS]

00:28:37   because all because I will I was [TS]

00:28:39   imagining that it was that that the two [TS]

00:28:44   dollars symbolized savvy the two dollars [TS]

00:28:49   symbolized that I was that that I was a [TS]

00:28:56   I was a knowledgeable person who wasn't [TS]

00:28:59   being who wasn't being worked by the [TS]

00:29:02   70-year old Spanish woman that was [TS]

00:29:03   renting out a room in her house you know [TS]

00:29:06   that I was that I was wise and in fact I [TS]

00:29:11   was a fool and when I what I'm gonna [TS]

00:29:16   meet somebody who never had that burden [TS]

00:29:18   who was just by virtue of how they were [TS]

00:29:23   raised by virtue of the the grade of [TS]

00:29:27   milk that their mother used in aircraft [TS]

00:29:29   macaroni and cheese [TS]

00:29:31   they came into the world with you know [TS]

00:29:35   either a more generosity of spirit or [TS]

00:29:39   less confusion about what constituted [TS]

00:29:43   wisdom [TS]

00:29:46   this is the problem this is part of the [TS]

00:29:49   problem with matriculating young [TS]

00:29:50   students in sunset university is that [TS]

00:29:52   I've read the older students would be [TS]

00:29:55   distracted by their envy and resentment [TS]

00:29:59   as the young people who are you were so [TS]

00:30:03   much better at this [TS]

00:30:05   just began their lives of like graceful [TS]

00:30:10   kind of progress through time and all of [TS]

00:30:13   us old crouches everything yeah but yeah [TS]

00:30:18   I mean also you should give yourself [TS]

00:30:19   credit it's also kind of a wax on wax [TS]

00:30:21   off situation where we have to we should [TS]

00:30:23   we may need to teach you something that [TS]

00:30:25   you can get your head around before we [TS]

00:30:28   teach you what we just taught you and I [TS]

00:30:30   think that happens a lot [TS]

00:30:31   I mean in the case of my kid when like a [TS]

00:30:33   year or two ago whenever she first [TS]

00:30:34   started going to soccer [TS]

00:30:35   well the real goal of soccer is to show [TS]

00:30:37   up first of all and then to even have [TS]

00:30:40   the government doesn't have time you get [TS]

00:30:41   your orange slices you could but you [TS]

00:30:43   know I mean honestly it's this is what [TS]

00:30:45   the one of the few things where I will [TS]

00:30:46   cede the whole like learning to sit [TS]

00:30:48   still and understand that you're part of [TS]

00:30:50   it [TS]

00:30:50   a team thing you know I I think you can [TS]

00:30:53   take that too far if you take it all the [TS]

00:30:54   way to your senior year of college but [TS]

00:30:56   but sometimes sometimes that's what it [TS]

00:30:59   takes and and you will be a stronger [TS]

00:31:00   character person out of that and to your [TS]

00:31:04   point about the money in this is in some [TS]

00:31:07   ways very related to the Chinese ladies [TS]

00:31:09   and walking talking over expired coupons [TS]

00:31:11   for some people as you know and I think [TS]

00:31:14   sometimes this is true for you it's not [TS]

00:31:15   a question of the dollars and cents [TS]

00:31:17   it's a question of what we agreed to so [TS]

00:31:19   it seems to me that if you show up that [TS]

00:31:21   place if you want today you would you [TS]

00:31:22   would be like a gentleman and you say [TS]

00:31:24   well i'm going to give you I you know [TS]

00:31:25   you want 35,000 piasters for this one [TS]

00:31:28   that the money is there but you and your [TS]

00:31:30   in you do this much they say no when you [TS]

00:31:31   walk away again like like a gentleman [TS]

00:31:33   now in the case going to chicken fingers [TS]

00:31:35   place in tallahassee in 1993 what [TS]

00:31:37   troubled me was the ones who are the [TS]

00:31:39   biggest dickholes about the tab where [TS]

00:31:42   the PhDs with the people that that at [TS]

00:31:44   the time we're making three times as [TS]

00:31:46   much money as i did I and I think what [TS]

00:31:50   it comes down to in some ways is that [TS]

00:31:52   there are yes there's certainly a lot of [TS]

00:31:54   personality flaws and player one of them [TS]

00:31:56   is that money makes it easy to [TS]

00:31:59   understand [TS]

00:31:59   where you stand and so if somebody is [TS]

00:32:03   trying to get more of your money or [TS]

00:32:05   really any of your money and you hold [TS]

00:32:06   that dear [TS]

00:32:07   even if you've got the money I can [TS]

00:32:09   certainly understand that you don't get [TS]

00:32:10   rich by spending money i understand that [TS]

00:32:12   but but at the same time like you're [TS]

00:32:14   right it's a certain generosity of [TS]

00:32:15   spirit and this is certainly getting [TS]

00:32:16   outside of your own stupid head and [TS]

00:32:18   understanding that that i am not going [TS]

00:32:20   to be able to get back and finishing [TS]

00:32:21   summarizing this goddamn deposition if [TS]

00:32:24   you sit here and argue over a four [TS]

00:32:26   dollar chicken finger bill you know what [TS]

00:32:28   I mean like to dance with her school [TS]

00:32:30   could do is help people understand [TS]

00:32:31   eventually once they're ready to accept [TS]

00:32:33   it [TS]

00:32:34   there's a lot more to it i would i would [TS]

00:32:36   even argue that you do get rich spending [TS]

00:32:38   money that was a little reductive but [TS]

00:32:41   you know what i mean like that is [TS]

00:32:42   precisely how you become a person with [TS]

00:32:46   that I mean I without getting too like a [TS]

00:32:51   loosey goosey Lulu about how money is [TS]

00:32:55   made i know that the the fashion now in [TS]

00:32:58   America I think that maybe even the [TS]

00:32:59   fashion world wide is to think so in [TS]

00:33:02   certain quarters that making money and [TS]

00:33:04   being a success in business is a woowoo [TS]

00:33:06   proposition that if you're if you're [TS]

00:33:09   Buddhism is correct and your your your [TS]

00:33:12   spirit is open and your your chakras are [TS]

00:33:16   aligned that money is going to fall from [TS]

00:33:18   the heavens and I and I I feel like that [TS]

00:33:21   is a kind of mind rate that I that I [TS]

00:33:25   hate with every with every it really [TS]

00:33:28   makes you small section scimitars every [TS]

00:33:31   ocean some recent are in your bathroom [TS]

00:33:33   and make it makes you a very small [TS]

00:33:36   person i guess i do believe I do believe [TS]

00:33:38   that spending money freely at being [TS]

00:33:41   generous rather tipping bellman and the [TS]

00:33:47   guy that opens the door for your taxi [TS]

00:33:49   you know handing him some money even [TS]

00:33:53   though even though it is clear to all [TS]

00:33:55   parties involved that he has not [TS]

00:33:57   performed very much of a service opening [TS]

00:33:59   the door for you is not a thing though [TS]

00:34:01   that doesn't that that does not cost a [TS]

00:34:06   dollar [TS]

00:34:07   except it does cost a dollar because [TS]

00:34:09   that is what we have agreed he opened [TS]

00:34:12   the door for you you [TS]

00:34:13   and I'm a dollar that is the that is [TS]

00:34:15   part of the social contract and to [TS]

00:34:18   preserve that dollar for yourself is to [TS]

00:34:21   live in a world where you are not fully [TS]

00:34:23   embracing the social contract and [TS]

00:34:25   therefore not going to prosper by [TS]

00:34:28   definition you know that the learning [TS]

00:34:31   that lesson that money that a lot of it [TS]

00:34:34   the money is fake money is absolutely [TS]

00:34:37   fake and two to treat it like it's real [TS]

00:34:39   and to preserve it like it matters is to [TS]

00:34:42   miss the point of it entirely and it [TS]

00:34:46   that is not to say that you should be [TS]

00:34:48   that you should be a like wantin with it [TS]

00:34:53   you should count it and you should know [TS]

00:34:56   what it represents [TS]

00:34:57   but you it's also it is just a symbolic [TS]

00:35:00   thing and had the last five years of my [TS]

00:35:03   life i have i have been living in this [TS]

00:35:06   weird relationship to money we're all of [TS]

00:35:08   a sudden i have a bunch of it and then i [TS]

00:35:10   live off of it for a long time and then [TS]

00:35:13   I have a then all of a sudden I have [TS]

00:35:14   more and every time i have a bunch of it [TS]

00:35:17   i think i made in the shade [TS]

00:35:20   I'm gonna keep having i'm going to keep [TS]

00:35:21   getting big bunches of money like this [TS]

00:35:23   money is going to keep arriving in bales [TS]

00:35:25   and I'm just gonna I should go out and [TS]

00:35:29   buy myself like a a really useless watch [TS]

00:35:32   or electric car and then it and then I [TS]

00:35:37   you know I live off of this bail i'm [TS]

00:35:40   like the I'm the horse that comes into [TS]

00:35:41   the barn and nibbles at the end of his [TS]

00:35:43   bail for a couple years and then the [TS]

00:35:47   money's gone and I'm and if I said if I [TS]

00:35:49   succumb to the feeling of like the [TS]

00:35:51   money's gone [TS]

00:35:53   I used it all up I blew it I blew my my [TS]

00:35:56   big nest egg [TS]

00:35:58   you know I can get into a real panic but [TS]

00:36:00   then then it just then then all of a [TS]

00:36:03   sudden the door opens another bail comes [TS]

00:36:05   in and i just have realized all monies [TS]

00:36:09   totally fake and and they this business [TS]

00:36:12   I think when people work for a paycheck [TS]

00:36:14   that comes very regularly and there's a [TS]

00:36:17   there's a real clear correlation between [TS]

00:36:20   I worked 40 hours 40 hours is worth X [TS]

00:36:23   dollars here come the dollars [TS]

00:36:26   and and so it's so money and time become [TS]

00:36:31   very real feeling and it seems like if I [TS]

00:36:36   stopped working for a moment the money [TS]

00:36:38   will dry up there will never be more or [TS]

00:36:41   I have to go find another place like [TS]

00:36:43   this where i work 40 hours and get you [TS]

00:36:45   know that money and time are so [TS]

00:36:46   inextricably time and and I i have just [TS]

00:36:50   realized that money is just this it's it [TS]

00:36:53   is absolutely just a handful of [TS]

00:36:56   seashells and it is not the point [TS]

00:37:00   it is not the thing to guard it is not [TS]

00:37:02   the thing to treasure and so yeah that's [TS]

00:37:10   why I never do anything anymore just [TS]

00:37:12   that sale got example i'm sorry i just [TS]

00:37:15   never level on your bail i said and sit [TS]

00:37:18   in the front window of my house with my [TS]

00:37:19   you know my elbows folded on the on the [TS]

00:37:23   the windowsill looking down the street [TS]

00:37:25   for the truck that's gonna back up with [TS]

00:37:27   the money bail every day it doesn't come [TS]

00:37:30   well it's it's easy to see more or sound [TS]

00:37:33   careless by saying something like that [TS]

00:37:35   but I happen to agree i think with a lot [TS]

00:37:38   of that and one of the things is that [TS]

00:37:41   when you've got let's see you've gotten [TS]

00:37:43   into a position where you get a job and [TS]

00:37:44   you're grateful to have a job or any [TS]

00:37:46   kind of ongoing work it you know it's [TS]

00:37:49   kind of conditioning where it's been [TS]

00:37:51   made clear to you that this is the bar [TS]

00:37:53   and when you hit it [TS]

00:37:56   the pellet comes out right and if you [TS]

00:37:57   start doing that for long enough [TS]

00:37:59   regardless of what it is I mean that [TS]

00:38:00   could that could be beer too but [TS]

00:38:02   whatever it is when you hit the bar the [TS]

00:38:04   pellet comes out you start and these are [TS]

00:38:07   looking forward to you hit the bar [TS]

00:38:08   certain number of times and a certain [TS]

00:38:10   number of pellets have come out that's [TS]

00:38:11   it's going to cause a lot of anxiety for [TS]

00:38:14   you to think about a world where you [TS]

00:38:15   miss a couple pallets right arm and I [TS]

00:38:18   think that I'm not trying to reduce that [TS]

00:38:20   because everybody you know has what they [TS]

00:38:22   need gives you should get what they need [TS]

00:38:24   but but you're right you lose track of [TS]

00:38:26   the fact that this is an abstraction and [TS]

00:38:29   that this isn't the only way it's not [TS]

00:38:32   the only way you could get it it's not [TS]

00:38:34   like you just sit around and wait for [TS]

00:38:35   bales to show up but you know the nature [TS]

00:38:37   of what you do you would have to be able [TS]

00:38:38   to tolerate [TS]

00:38:39   that feast in more feast and [TS]

00:38:42   occasionally pseudo family for a while [TS]

00:38:44   because you've got the confidence to [TS]

00:38:46   know that like Helen put it this way the [TS]

00:38:49   and I don't know this might be too high [TS]

00:38:50   level but i think the fact that you even [TS]

00:38:55   need money a lot or need money a little [TS]

00:38:58   has very little to do with what's [TS]

00:39:01   happening in the rest of the universe [TS]

00:39:03   and because of our own heuristics and [TS]

00:39:05   hang-ups it's really easy to think that [TS]

00:39:07   the more i need this money the more [TS]

00:39:10   likely i think i will do anything to get [TS]

00:39:12   it but the funny thing is this is also [TS]

00:39:14   slacker like some kind of a self-help [TS]

00:39:16   thing but like well the truth is like [TS]

00:39:18   you know if it's going to be something [TS]

00:39:20   we're now you gotta drive four hours [TS]

00:39:21   round trip every day and do dry cleaning [TS]

00:39:23   and have a job that you hate well yeah [TS]

00:39:25   you got a bar and maybe you've got a [TS]

00:39:26   pellet but in some ways that makes you [TS]

00:39:28   even more enslaved to that same concept [TS]

00:39:31   instead of going on it's worth it for me [TS]

00:39:32   to find something that has a bar that I [TS]

00:39:34   like that reality like you tell it [TS]

00:39:36   anywhere we get into this bar and pellet [TS]

00:39:39   a situation and we forget that we are we [TS]

00:39:42   are actually natively made to eat grass [TS]

00:39:46   in the field like the pellet is not our [TS]

00:39:50   natural reward you know the pellet and [TS]

00:39:52   then and and again we don't want to I [TS]

00:39:55   don't want to be too woo either but it [TS]

00:39:58   is very very hard you you get so [TS]

00:40:01   conditioned to the barn pellet that you [TS]

00:40:03   will be you you will find yourself in if [TS]

00:40:05   in like a field of flowers and you will [TS]

00:40:08   miss the bar you'll you not you it's not [TS]

00:40:11   just that you miss the pellets you'll [TS]

00:40:13   miss the bar the connection the clear [TS]

00:40:15   connection you had between this [TS]

00:40:17   mechanical action and the and what you [TS]

00:40:21   what you consider your sustenance [TS]

00:40:23   so I much my life has been a a progress [TS]

00:40:30   of learning to feel like money is not [TS]

00:40:35   the thing and you would think with this [TS]

00:40:39   when I was 16 years old I was so [TS]

00:40:42   consumed with the idea of money as an [TS]

00:40:45   abstraction and has a real thing you [TS]

00:40:47   know I can i collected Cohen's i [TS]

00:40:50   collected silver bars [TS]

00:40:52   I would go to i would go to those gym [TS]

00:40:55   and numismatic shows in Alaska work [TS]

00:40:58   where guys who were mining raw or wood [TS]

00:41:02   comments just sell buckets of dirt to [TS]

00:41:04   each other and I remember buying [TS]

00:41:06   rockhopper that had been mined out of a [TS]

00:41:10   vein of copper just like a it's just [TS]

00:41:12   like a like us kind of a crumpled-up [TS]

00:41:14   baseball of just pure copper and i would [TS]

00:41:19   buy these things for you know look at [TS]

00:41:24   the time a little baseball a copper was [TS]

00:41:25   only a buck or two I would buy this [TS]

00:41:28   metal not because I ever thought it was [TS]

00:41:31   going to be worth more money or because [TS]

00:41:33   i was going to take this this raw metal [TS]

00:41:35   and and trade it with my friends or [TS]

00:41:39   anything or fashioned it into jewelry i [TS]

00:41:41   would I just that the idea that that we [TS]

00:41:45   had we had collectively agreed that this [TS]

00:41:48   metal was precious appeal to me I wanted [TS]

00:41:53   to own it for myself and so you would [TS]

00:41:56   think at 16 17 years old I would have [TS]

00:41:58   made life choices that would have put me [TS]

00:42:03   in like a closer or a more direct [TS]

00:42:06   relationship with money that I wouldn't [TS]

00:42:08   become a stockbroker or somebody who who [TS]

00:42:12   sits and just plays with money and [TS]

00:42:14   invents money makes money out of nothing [TS]

00:42:16   but for whatever reason I took that that [TS]

00:42:24   that love of money in all its many forms [TS]

00:42:27   and then chose to be a dancer basically [TS]

00:42:34   at you know I chose to I chose modern [TS]

00:42:36   dance as as my expression of my inner [TS]

00:42:40   light dinner and entertainment monkey [TS]

00:42:42   yeah like oh great i love money and i am [TS]

00:42:46   you know and I and I worship money like [TS]

00:42:48   you know you've seen on my wall here i [TS]

00:42:50   have a sheet of uncut bill two-dollar [TS]

00:42:52   bills and your favorite websites is what [TS]

00:42:54   your money's worth he melted down [TS]

00:42:56   yeah what's your money's worth when I [TS]

00:42:57   mean like what's another hit I i have I [TS]

00:43:00   got free when I was carrying when I had [TS]

00:43:02   that chain wallet [TS]

00:43:03   I used to carry around [TS]

00:43:04   Bourne Identity style safe-deposit [TS]

00:43:09   exactly what like six hundred dollars [TS]

00:43:11   worth of tiny folded up that tiny [TS]

00:43:13   folded-up twenty-dollar bills and all [TS]

00:43:14   the different of all the different [TS]

00:43:16   nations of the world what it what is [TS]

00:43:18   that it's a kind of relationship to [TS]

00:43:20   money occur crazed like and a lot of [TS]

00:43:23   ways it was a simple love I just had a [TS]

00:43:26   simple love it I just like a little [TS]

00:43:27   miniature art museum near your ass in [TS]

00:43:30   some ways right it's like a little [TS]

00:43:31   display [TS]

00:43:32   yeah a little display in a little game [TS]

00:43:34   and a little thing I could sit monkey [TS]

00:43:36   with with my fingers but to have chosen [TS]

00:43:39   a life where two chosen a life in the [TS]

00:43:43   arts where money is is seventeen steps [TS]

00:43:50   down on your maslow hierarchy you know [TS]

00:43:54   like you are you're so you're so it's so [TS]

00:43:58   long after the show before the smoke [TS]

00:44:00   clears enough that anybody's even think [TS]

00:44:01   about money again and at that tension [TS]

00:44:05   that tension has been in my in my in my [TS]

00:44:08   whole life you know like it is it if if [TS]

00:44:12   I had gone in to stock brokering and had [TS]

00:44:16   just been interested in solving math [TS]

00:44:19   problems to create money and then [TS]

00:44:22   collecting money i may have been a more [TS]

00:44:26   that may have been my duck you know I [TS]

00:44:30   may have been a it in some ways a more [TS]

00:44:32   realized person if not a Abra as brought [TS]

00:44:37   a person I would have been more [TS]

00:44:38   [Music] [TS]

00:44:40   my life would have had that sort of [TS]

00:44:43   targeted self-knowledge that that event [TS]

00:44:47   I see in people who like my sister [TS]

00:44:51   realized 15 years after the fact and i [TS]

00:44:55   watch the realization hit her like a ton [TS]

00:44:57   of bricks she realized that she had been [TS]

00:44:59   put on the earth to have been an Olympic [TS]

00:45:01   skier and she and she bailed out of [TS]

00:45:05   skiing because she wanted to smoke pot [TS]

00:45:08   and hang out with skaters and her all [TS]

00:45:13   her competitors and all the girls that [TS]

00:45:15   could never catch her on the ski race [TS]

00:45:16   mountain ended up being the US women's [TS]

00:45:19   olympic team for that era like her [TS]

00:45:22   friends and nemec's went on to be the US [TS]

00:45:26   Ski Team and none of and they weren't [TS]

00:45:28   none of our medalists but they were the [TS]

00:45:31   ski team and they did go to the Olympics [TS]

00:45:32   and my sister was a better skier than [TS]

00:45:34   they were and she realized it [TS]

00:45:36   many years later like oh shit that was [TS]

00:45:39   my thing I should have if I had been an [TS]

00:45:42   Olympic skier my whole life would would [TS]

00:45:46   have this order it would have a context [TS]

00:45:50   that it's lacking now I'm missing the [TS]

00:45:53   it's like I'm missing a limb and I you [TS]

00:45:57   know I often wonder whether whether that [TS]

00:46:00   that relationship to literally to [TS]

00:46:06   coinage you know to like bags of coins [TS]

00:46:09   right when I when I was a little kid and [TS]

00:46:13   I would get a quarter because people [TS]

00:46:16   give quarters two little kids I don't [TS]

00:46:17   know they still do that they should have [TS]

00:46:18   used to i would put it in a shoebox and [TS]

00:46:22   I told you this story [TS]

00:46:23   ok i had a shoebox that I would change [TS]

00:46:26   it for 25 pennies because it made me [TS]

00:46:27   feel richer [TS]

00:46:28   I like that that that's that I like that [TS]

00:46:30   very much but i would put this I put [TS]

00:46:33   whatever coin I got any denomination i [TS]

00:46:35   would put in the shoebox until I had a [TS]

00:46:37   shoebox [TS]

00:46:38   that i couldn't i thought i could barely [TS]

00:46:40   lift I used to keep it on the top shelf [TS]

00:46:44   of my closet and then I had to keep it [TS]

00:46:45   under my bed because I couldn't I [TS]

00:46:47   couldn't lift it and i would i would [TS]

00:46:50   pick the shoebox up and I would put it [TS]

00:46:52   on the bed i'm going to close my door [TS]

00:46:54   lock my door and go sit on my bed and I [TS]

00:46:57   could take the money i know in big [TS]

00:47:03   handful now and i would pour it over my [TS]

00:47:05   head [TS]

00:47:10   you'd have a little uh quarter shower [TS]

00:47:13   yeah i would hurt i loved it we can [TS]

00:47:16   really feel the money I you can feel the [TS]

00:47:18   money and i was i was literally bathing [TS]

00:47:21   in my wealth which shoe box full of [TS]

00:47:24   quarters is you know I know exactly how [TS]

00:47:27   much it is because i eventually my mom [TS]

00:47:30   convinced me to take it to the bank [TS]

00:47:31   handed in and the woman behind the [TS]

00:47:35   counter gave me a bankbook where they [TS]

00:47:38   had typed a hundred and seventeen [TS]

00:47:43   dollars in the bank book and then my box [TS]

00:47:47   of quarters was gone but in its place i [TS]

00:47:49   had this bank book which looks like a [TS]

00:47:52   passport that had this amount of money [TS]

00:47:54   in it and I could take the bankbook out [TS]

00:47:58   and stare at my hundred and seventeen [TS]

00:48:00   dollars in this new form which was you [TS]

00:48:04   know a promise that was at as satisfying [TS]

00:48:06   different different different kind of [TS]

00:48:09   thing it was a different kind of [TS]

00:48:10   satisfying because I had because my mom [TS]

00:48:13   was initiating me into the into the [TS]

00:48:16   culture of adults by taking me to the [TS]

00:48:20   bank now I had a bankbook now I was you [TS]

00:48:25   know now my money at had joined the big [TS]

00:48:28   stream and I was part of the big [TS]

00:48:31   operation there are so many times in my [TS]

00:48:34   in my young life where somebody [TS]

00:48:37   initiated me into like when I got my [TS]

00:48:38   first check book initiated me into this [TS]

00:48:41   the big operation the world of adults [TS]

00:48:45   who were trading money and stock [TS]

00:48:48   and you know i was fascinated by all [TS]

00:48:51   that I wanted to be a part of it and and [TS]

00:48:57   yet there was nobody nobody took me all [TS]

00:49:00   the way you know nobody explained maybe [TS]

00:49:04   the next step beyond having a bank [TS]

00:49:09   account and I mean I and people bought [TS]

00:49:11   me stock for Christmas when I was [TS]

00:49:14   because I was one of those kids are [TS]

00:49:15   holding out hand that so much i got [TS]

00:49:18   stock for Christmas and I was thrilled [TS]

00:49:19   that would open up the newspaper and I [TS]

00:49:20   would look for my little penny stocks [TS]

00:49:22   and the stock the stock that I had was [TS]

00:49:26   trading in the 75 cents a share realm [TS]

00:49:31   and i had a hundred shares and you get [TS]

00:49:35   to watch that change I would watch it [TS]

00:49:37   change and sometimes I'd be up and [TS]

00:49:38   sometimes i'd be down [TS]

00:49:40   you said that you're so good at like [TS]

00:49:42   what watching and waiting [TS]

00:49:44   you're really good at that yeah I like [TS]

00:49:46   to watch anyway but the problem is with [TS]

00:49:48   the stocks and with a lot of things I [TS]

00:49:51   watched my stock go up to a dollar-fifty [TS]

00:49:54   share and then I watched it plummet to [TS]

00:49:56   forty cents a share and then I watched [TS]

00:49:59   it plummet off the bottom of the of the [TS]

00:50:04   stock exchange who and it felt to two [TS]

00:50:07   cents a share and then was delisted and [TS]

00:50:10   that's why you're angry at politicians [TS]

00:50:10   now up the one of the companies i [TS]

00:50:15   invested in in like nineteen eighty made [TS]

00:50:19   some kind of hose that was used on the [TS]

00:50:23   space shuttle and I thought this is a [TS]

00:50:26   growing industry and that's cool and and [TS]

00:50:30   then it turned out you can't really like [TS]

00:50:32   your business isn't going to thrive just [TS]

00:50:34   making like one hose that's a pretty [TS]

00:50:36   specific vertical market [TS]

00:50:38   yeah you need to diversify but you know [TS]

00:50:40   I've watched my fortunes go up i watch [TS]

00:50:42   them go down I am NOT I'm a hoarder [TS]

00:50:46   you know that's not as crazy yeah i mean [TS]

00:50:48   i-i don't derail you but like I i think [TS]

00:50:52   i personally I mean I don't think you [TS]

00:50:55   should [TS]

00:50:56   nothing you feel bad that like I think [TS]

00:50:58   there's an important distinction to be [TS]

00:51:00   made that at least I [TS]

00:51:01   at this point and for now feel like I've [TS]

00:51:04   learned i'm not like a successful person [TS]

00:51:06   by the longest stretch of the [TS]

00:51:08   imagination especially money-wise but [TS]

00:51:10   when you think about what you described [TS]

00:51:13   like somebody going to wall street or [TS]

00:51:15   somebody who's going to be in [TS]

00:51:16   numismatics or whatever like I think [TS]

00:51:19   it's important that I promise that even [TS]

00:51:21   anywhere near right now you know it was [TS]

00:51:22   good like to think about this breakdown [TS]

00:51:24   though one that I think is interesting [TS]

00:51:27   in one that's very personally important [TS]

00:51:29   to me [TS]

00:51:29   one is like think about the aspects of [TS]

00:51:32   being a one of those people like you're [TS]

00:51:34   a banker or you're a mergers and [TS]

00:51:38   acquisitions person or really your [TS]

00:51:39   cashier whatever it is like think maybe [TS]

00:51:42   this goes right back to the bar in the [TS]

00:51:43   pulpit think about like what aspect that [TS]

00:51:45   appeals to you because like in the grand [TS]

00:51:48   canyon going back to the the great [TS]

00:51:49   Robert Evans he realized never put his [TS]

00:51:52   own money into a movie like he made a [TS]

00:51:54   lot of money for himself and others but [TS]

00:51:56   he did that by realizing it's not like I [TS]

00:51:59   can be creative block check on the [TS]

00:52:00   computer I can make five hundred dollars [TS]

00:52:02   a night playing blackjack on the heat [TS]

00:52:03   computers i'm really good at it and I'm [TS]

00:52:06   really i'm on the computer with fake [TS]

00:52:08   money i am really great at employing [TS]

00:52:11   basic strategy like I know what cards to [TS]

00:52:13   play when it's you just basically become [TS]

00:52:15   a robot who gets free Heinekens well [TS]

00:52:17   virtual Heinekens but in the casino mess [TS]

00:52:19   because it might be the dollar table and [TS]

00:52:20   i'm still screwing up so i guess i'm [TS]

00:52:22   saying is like if you're somebody like I [TS]

00:52:26   think a lot of people make the mistake [TS]

00:52:27   of saying I like money a lot so I'm [TS]

00:52:29   going to go do this money thing and they [TS]

00:52:32   kind of leave it at that [TS]

00:52:33   but that sets aside the part like my [TS]

00:52:35   daughter collects bottle caps [TS]

00:52:36   I collect comics and I think it's some [TS]

00:52:38   ways that's the same kind of impulse as [TS]

00:52:41   somebody who wants to for example [TS]

00:52:43   collect money like in your case you [TS]

00:52:44   really like having those quarters in a [TS]

00:52:46   box but that gives me the second point [TS]

00:52:48   which is how you want to spend your day [TS]

00:52:49   I think people don't ask themselves that [TS]

00:52:52   enough and and this is real fancy but i [TS]

00:52:54   really believe this i succeed but we've [TS]

00:52:57   seen people who go go through like all [TS]

00:52:58   things we talked about becoming a doctor [TS]

00:53:00   becoming a lawyer coming all these [TS]

00:53:02   things and it never completely occurred [TS]

00:53:04   to them while they were studying let's [TS]

00:53:06   look at this way the first you aspire to [TS]

00:53:08   be an attorney and so you watch attorney [TS]

00:53:10   TV shows or maybe if you're really smart [TS]

00:53:12   you read books then we do you go to law [TS]

00:53:13   school [TS]

00:53:14   and yes i did Allah but really there are [TS]

00:53:16   in your in your cosmology was aspiring [TS]

00:53:19   to be an attorney begins by watching [TS]

00:53:21   attorney TV you're telling me you watch [TS]

00:53:23   SWAT and didn't want to be on the SWAT [TS]

00:53:25   team [TS]

00:53:26   yeah okay you're right ok and so that [TS]

00:53:27   maybe you go to school for a pretty long [TS]

00:53:29   time but you know what you are you're [TS]

00:53:31   not a lawyer [TS]

00:53:32   you're not a law student you're a [TS]

00:53:33   student you've gotten good at being a [TS]

00:53:36   student student and i'm referring here [TS]

00:53:38   specifically took 214 in particular and [TS]

00:53:40   a couple other people then you I knew [TS]

00:53:43   this woman who made all the way into [TS]

00:53:45   studying for the bar which is not easy [TS]

00:53:47   is not until she was in a study group [TS]

00:53:50   studying for the bar that she realized [TS]

00:53:51   how much she hated lawyers and she did [TS]

00:53:53   not like being around them so i guess [TS]

00:53:56   this is long winded but I'm trying to [TS]

00:53:57   say is that i think one reason a lot of [TS]

00:53:59   people are unhappy [TS]

00:54:00   maybe because the bar maybe because the [TS]

00:54:01   ballot but because they don't really [TS]

00:54:03   think about what they like to do all day [TS]

00:54:05   if you become a manager and you don't [TS]

00:54:06   like going to pointless meetings you [TS]

00:54:08   have the wrong kind of job if you love [TS]

00:54:10   money but don't like being around [TS]

00:54:12   bankers if you you know if you like the [TS]

00:54:16   idea of making movies but can't get [TS]

00:54:17   along with the crew [TS]

00:54:19   you picked the wrong job because i [TS]

00:54:20   forgot what you like to do and who you [TS]

00:54:22   like to spend your time with [TS]

00:54:23   I wanted a job at a stockbroker during a [TS]

00:54:25   bank that involve me going into a big [TS]

00:54:28   Scrooge McDuck room behind a giant [TS]

00:54:32   circular vault door and pouring money on [TS]

00:54:34   my head [TS]

00:54:34   everyone's that's just the taking of [TS]

00:54:36   pelham 123 remember that degree that's [TS]

00:54:38   maybe original one way yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:54:40   well the reason he said that i was [TS]

00:54:42   immediately taken back to the scene that [TS]

00:54:44   is totally remember this correctly I [TS]

00:54:46   guys could be an Oprah memory is such a [TS]

00:54:48   clear recollection I would never want to [TS]

00:54:50   spoil the end of the movie because it's [TS]

00:54:51   a really good movie but it was on a lot [TS]

00:54:53   when I was a kid and I know it's had a [TS]

00:54:55   huge influence on like Tarantino and [TS]

00:54:57   stuff but like i just saw all the time [TS]

00:54:58   when I was a kid is just another one [TS]

00:54:59   o'clock movie for me but there's a scene [TS]

00:55:01   at the end where martin balsam has his [TS]

00:55:03   cut and if memory serves and martin [TS]

00:55:06   balsam money is a troglodyte he's in his [TS]

00:55:08   little tiny crappy room he dumps his [TS]

00:55:10   entire share of cash on the bed and [TS]

00:55:12   starts rolling around in it and it's [TS]

00:55:14   like you know that's kind of appealing [TS]

00:55:17   not and it's just because like even if [TS]

00:55:18   you take that money away from me and in [TS]

00:55:20   a week [TS]

00:55:21   it kind of fun to get to roll around [TS]

00:55:22   for all its super appealing and you know [TS]

00:55:24   I when we were when we were kids growing [TS]

00:55:26   up the trope of the heist movie the bank [TS]

00:55:30   robbery movie or the especially any [TS]

00:55:31   movie where they were going to knock [TS]

00:55:33   over Fort Knox there's a plan yeah you [TS]

00:55:35   could also be stuff like the you don't [TS]

00:55:37   like the that one [TS]

00:55:38   robertshaw movie i like but the force 10 [TS]

00:55:40   from navarone right you gotta it's kind [TS]

00:55:42   of a heist movie right you got to go out [TS]

00:55:43   and you gotta go let's take this [TS]

00:55:45   everyone is maybe it's maybe in the top [TS]

00:55:48   4 she telling the Dirty Dozen and CS is [TS]

00:55:52   it's not as good doesn't listen I'm [TS]

00:55:54   sorry I studies but the first time from [TS]

00:55:56   their owners in the top it's definitely [TS]

00:55:58   in the top four movies that that [TS]

00:56:00   informed my entire net that's Harrison [TS]

00:56:03   Ford younglife Harrison Ford it's the [TS]

00:56:06   it's the classic film where there's a [TS]

00:56:07   there's like a british guy who's an [TS]

00:56:09   explosives expert i love that if gia the [TS]

00:56:13   the black guy is a hand-to-hand combat [TS]

00:56:15   guy you know it's and they go on the [TS]

00:56:17   mission to blow up a dam it's so [TS]

00:56:19   wonderful of movies like that it makes [TS]

00:56:21   me so happy but any any movie that [TS]

00:56:23   involved [TS]

00:56:24   well and and and to that end any movie [TS]

00:56:28   that involved a vault full of money [TS]

00:56:30   it predicts lets a guy a guy pushing a [TS]

00:56:34   cart that had gold bars on it or a room [TS]

00:56:38   that was full of a room that you were [TS]

00:56:40   breaking into that was full of [TS]

00:56:42   explosives or guns that he and stealing [TS]

00:56:44   eatery it was totally totally appealing [TS]

00:56:49   anything in any case those were my those [TS]

00:56:52   those I I think I've spent my entire [TS]

00:56:55   life trying to figure out how it is that [TS]

00:56:58   i am going to be a not just a bank [TS]

00:57:03   robber but a bank robber who is robbing [TS]

00:57:05   banks to defeat the Nazis like that i [TS]

00:57:09   think is was really my job a bank robber [TS]

00:57:11   who's also fighting the Nazis and I [TS]

00:57:16   there's a there's like that's my missing [TS]

00:57:18   limb [TS]

00:57:19   mm-hmm [TS]

00:57:23   that's your did that by way of a duck i [TS]

00:57:25   want to point out just going to quickly [TS]

00:57:26   searching just make sure that these [TS]

00:57:28   facts right for 10 from navarone yeah [TS]

00:57:30   the taking of pelham 123 [TS]

00:57:33   and I think yeah From Russia With Love [TS]

00:57:36   all featuring mr robert shaw robertshaw [TS]

00:57:39   robertshaw and this day and this thing [TS]

00:57:41   where he gets his be on the other end of [TS]

00:57:43   the heist [TS]

00:57:43   yeah in the sunshine i'm in From Russia [TS]

00:57:45   With Love with blonde hair getting [TS]

00:57:47   punched in the stomach by that lady from [TS]

00:57:49   that with that German composers wife [TS]

00:57:52   mmm mmm good violence profiles wife [TS]

00:57:56   Oh No kidding mhm she was in a lot of [TS]

00:57:58   his productions you know there there [TS]

00:58:00   there was a movie a starring Frank [TS]

00:58:03   Sinatra where they were they steal a [TS]

00:58:05   train you know that I want to find Ryan [TS]

00:58:08   Express on Ryan's express and if you [TS]

00:58:11   watch fun runs express their the the [TS]

00:58:14   german girl that they kidnap with the [TS]

00:58:16   train and listen [TS]

00:58:17   who was the man who was the mistress of [TS]

00:58:20   the of the bed the German body and then [TS]

00:58:24   she becomes like obviously she falls in [TS]

00:58:26   love with fun Ryan or some shit she she [TS]

00:58:29   turns the tables this german girl was [TS]

00:58:34   not German she was Italian and it ends [TS]

00:58:37   up that she was the girl that did the [TS]

00:58:40   dancing in the prison colon and Q's old [TS]

00:58:43   video so put that in here put that in [TS]

00:58:49   your pipe and smoke it is that exercise [TS]

00:58:52   thing or reason Poland instant queue [TS]

00:58:54   zylle have I know that has nothing to do [TS]

00:58:55   is just a new button [TS]

00:58:57   no I've never I've never explained to [TS]

00:58:59   you prison Cola and I've got a card and [TS]

00:59:01   a pencil and even know what letters to [TS]

00:59:02   make so this is an industrial band [TS]

00:59:07   no no there there so there was an [TS]

00:59:09   italian actor and I'm going to find his [TS]

00:59:14   name for you right now [TS]

00:59:16   Prison colon incident easel there's an [TS]

00:59:21   italian actor named adriano celentano [TS]

00:59:24   and and he had a like a a he was one of [TS]

00:59:30   those actors that was kind of the he was [TS]

00:59:33   the Marlon Brando of Italy or something [TS]

00:59:35   like that he was the somebody of Italy [TS]

00:59:37   famous actor and he had a music career [TS]

00:59:40   in the early seventies [TS]

00:59:41   and he wrote this song prison colon [TS]

00:59:43   incident cubicle which is him as an [TS]

00:59:47   Italian guy who doesn't speak English [TS]

00:59:49   singing a song of nonsense lyrics that [TS]

00:59:54   it that sound like what he imagines [TS]

00:59:56   english sounds like oh [TS]

00:59:56   english sounds like oh [TS]

01:00:00   so he has an entire song where he's just [TS]

01:00:01   singing in made-up the way with a [TS]

01:00:04   conscience dachuan together the way we [TS]

01:00:06   would be like always a booboo Sousa long [TS]

01:00:09   as you can write an entire song in that [TS]

01:00:13   style record zit and it's a hit in Italy [TS]

01:00:18   is like a novelty hit well yeah but but [TS]

01:00:21   here's the thing huh [TS]

01:00:23   it's a killer song it is killer [TS]

01:00:27   so you spent three minutes to give me a [TS]

01:00:28   hand on the spelling so pris en prison [TS]

01:00:33   some real priest prison colon and I cool [TS]

01:00:37   there it is there's incontinence and [TS]

01:00:39   kill so watch this music video the that [TS]

01:00:42   they're there to videos but the one that [TS]

01:00:44   you want is the black and white one and [TS]

01:00:45   he's and they're both recorded like off [TS]

01:00:47   a TV they're terrible quality but this [TS]

01:00:50   tune got stuck in my head a couple years [TS]

01:00:54   ago and I had to watch this [TS]

01:00:56   I had to watch this thing once a day I [TS]

01:00:58   watched it once a day for a year because [TS]

01:01:00   the the the backing track of the tune is [TS]

01:01:04   kind of a like a crazy loop it's got [TS]

01:01:07   horns it's it's got kind of proto fuzz [TS]

01:01:11   distortion and and the way his vocals [TS]

01:01:16   kinda it it's like he ate in a way he [TS]

01:01:18   invented rap because it kind of wraps [TS]

01:01:21   instead of things and I don't know this [TS]

01:01:25   track is amazing i listen to it still [TS]

01:01:28   all the time but the woman in the video [TS]

01:01:32   is the woman from von Ryan's express and [TS]

01:01:36   I think those are the only two things [TS]

01:01:37   she did that were that that had any [TS]

01:01:39   traction outside of Italy and you're [TS]

01:01:42   like a gene Shalit gene siskel that's [TS]

01:01:46   amazing that's encyclopedia John reason [TS]

01:01:49   I so I know I niz one or a it's fine [TS]

01:01:53   nonsense my nonsense right none of it [TS]

01:01:55   means anything it's just it's just it's [TS]

01:01:57   just well then I ever tell you I when I [TS]

01:02:01   first went to college there was a [TS]

01:02:02   Japanese kid that lived in the dorms and [TS]

01:02:05   he didn't speak English dream [TS]

01:02:07   and one day we were sitting around [TS]

01:02:10   drinking and smoking pot and my my [TS]

01:02:13   friend Bob had this kind of moment of [TS]

01:02:16   insight and he said he said to the to [TS]

01:02:19   the exchange student he was like how do [TS]

01:02:22   you imitate Americans in japan and the [TS]

01:02:28   kid didn't get it at first he was like [TS]

01:02:30   huh what do you mean [TS]

01:02:32   and so Bob said well like when we [TS]

01:02:34   pretend to be Japanese like all my soul [TS]

01:02:37   corrupt a oh yeah but you're looking for [TS]

01:02:42   his hit was getting poun for him [TS]

01:02:44   yeah and he was like oh icic and he [TS]

01:02:48   stood up any like kinda shocked his arms [TS]

01:02:51   out of the side like he was gonna like [TS]

01:02:54   he was on a UH he was doing on a old [TS]

01:02:58   western town and he said hamburger a [TS]

01:03:00   hamburger [TS]

01:03:01   bang bang look at me i could have [TS]

01:03:05   intercourse without hitting your panties [TS]

01:03:07   look at me [TS]

01:03:08   that's awesome Chicago bang bang [TS]

01:03:11   I love that kind of stuff i love to hear [TS]

01:03:13   like the onomatopoetic in different [TS]

01:03:15   languages and we must sound so it's like [TS]

01:03:17   you never know it's like Russian of [TS]

01:03:19   course she knows russian and german [TS]

01:03:20   people like they could be they could be [TS]

01:03:22   flirting and it sounds like they're [TS]

01:03:24   about to have a fight [TS]

01:03:25   russian people sound really mad when [TS]

01:03:26   they're speaking Russian people are mad [TS]

01:03:28   is that right there just man we've used [TS]

01:03:31   to be in the movies go to the y before [TS]

01:03:34   we have a child and we would go places [TS]

01:03:35   we go to the y in the morning and night [TS]

01:03:37   to a little bit of a workout and then i [TS]

01:03:39   would go into the sauna where everyone [TS]

01:03:40   spits and they would always be these two [TS]

01:03:42   you know you know the way the last [TS]

01:03:45   special Germans right you get this real [TS]

01:03:47   the real round and shiny and bulbous [TS]

01:03:49   Chinese to Russian guys with will talk [TS]

01:03:52   and like just short of yelling they were [TS]

01:03:54   six inches away from each other [TS]

01:03:56   everybody spitting and they would they [TS]

01:03:57   would yell at each other and you had no [TS]

01:03:59   idea what they're saying but they're [TS]

01:03:59   clearly friends they kept coming back [TS]

01:04:01   maybe they were was a long negotiation I [TS]

01:04:03   don't know they're still up the Russian [TS]

01:04:05   people are man they are still very mad [TS]

01:04:07   that peter the great cut off their [TS]

01:04:08   sleeves [TS]

01:04:10   there's there they're just they're mad [TS]

01:04:13   about a white again sorry when he cut [TS]

01:04:15   off the sleeves [TS]

01:04:16   why did he cut off thursday metaphor [TS]

01:04:18   know they actually cut off their sleeves [TS]

01:04:20   but there was but before before Peter [TS]

01:04:24   the Great modernized Russia the fashion [TS]

01:04:26   for centuries there was to have it [TS]

01:04:31   sounds ridiculous this was to have [TS]

01:04:33   really really really long sleeves on [TS]

01:04:37   your garments and I like really long and [TS]

01:04:43   peter the great felt that this was not [TS]

01:04:48   in keeping with the Russians that he [TS]

01:04:49   wanted you know he wanted to emulate the [TS]

01:04:52   court in france he wanted he wanted [TS]

01:04:56   Russia to be like a European country [TS]

01:04:58   instead of what he considered to be this [TS]

01:05:00   kind of backward like medieval country [TS]

01:05:04   and Sookie he mandated in the ferry in a [TS]

01:05:09   very contentious decree that that uh [TS]

01:05:12   that everyone had to cut the sleeves off [TS]

01:05:14   and have normal sign under under penalty [TS]

01:05:18   of law [TS]

01:05:18   yeah have normal sleeves that ended at [TS]

01:05:21   at where your hand was people hate stuff [TS]

01:05:24   like that and he made them shave their [TS]

01:05:26   long beards he cut their beards and he [TS]

01:05:29   kept their sleeve [TS]

01:05:30   how is that not the beginning of a [TS]

01:05:31   revolution well in fact it was it's it [TS]

01:05:34   certainly sounds it sowed the seeds of [TS]

01:05:37   the of the rest of the eventual [TS]

01:05:40   revolution and also I think why russians [TS]

01:05:43   in bath houses are yelling at each other [TS]

01:05:45   to this day it it makes perfect sense [TS]

01:05:47   they're still upset that stuff sticks [TS]

01:05:49   with you right i mean the kind of thing [TS]

01:05:51   that came with your people have suffered [TS]

01:05:52   indignity in the past I don't think [TS]

01:05:55   that's the thing that's not the kind of [TS]

01:05:56   thing that people let go of lightly yeah [TS]

01:05:59   well it's any kind of forced [TS]

01:06:01   modernization you still still [TS]

01:06:03   celebrating candles that the lamps this [TS]

01:06:05   state lid you know what I mean or some [TS]

01:06:08   time ago [TS]

01:06:09   yeah I somebody either a crack somewhere [TS]

01:06:10   somebody was saying that every jewish [TS]

01:06:11   holiday is about like bad news you know [TS]

01:06:14   about like something going wrong [TS]

01:06:17   it's but this is a huge thing I'm any [TS]

01:06:19   notion in politics I is a lot like she [TS]

01:06:22   is the Shiites and Sunnis are still [TS]

01:06:25   super duper mad about mad at each other [TS]

01:06:28   mad at each other to the point of [TS]

01:06:30   wanting to kill each other because [TS]

01:06:32   somebody somebody says that the real [TS]

01:06:36   profit is is the cousin of the guy and [TS]

01:06:39   the other people say no the profit is [TS]

01:06:41   the mother is the uncle of the guy right [TS]

01:06:43   and it's like you have to change a lot [TS]

01:06:46   of icons if somebody literally fetishes [TS]

01:06:48   like a religious icons you have to [TS]

01:06:49   change a lot of the architecture of [TS]

01:06:51   churches if that were the case [TS]

01:06:53   well you know and I mean the thing is [TS]

01:06:55   it's all it's all a little bit bananas [TS]

01:06:56   to begin with all due respect and so I [TS]

01:06:58   mean when you when you try and introduce [TS]

01:06:59   even what feels to us like a fairly [TS]

01:07:01   trivial change right i mean it's your [TS]

01:07:03   religion right but I feel like I feel [TS]

01:07:06   like the long sleeves thing if Peter had [TS]

01:07:08   just demonstrated that shorter sleeves [TS]

01:07:11   were more efficient by like prancing [TS]

01:07:15   around in short sleeves for a while and [TS]

01:07:17   I'm not about short sleeves for timeout [TS]

01:07:19   just less less long sleeves that what we [TS]

01:07:21   now consider conventional Kennedy did [TS]

01:07:24   not set out to kill the Hat industry [TS]

01:07:26   that Clark Gable did not set out to kill [TS]

01:07:28   the t-shirt industry but they said you [TS]

01:07:30   know what let it begin with me let it [TS]

01:07:32   begin with me [TS]

01:07:33   that's right and and so you get this [TS]

01:07:38   problem in in history where somebody has [TS]

01:07:40   too much power and they're like you know [TS]

01:07:42   what I'm just I'm drawing a line no more [TS]

01:07:44   sleeves and that's when the problems [TS]

01:07:46   started that's when the problems began [TS]

01:07:48   right if Kennedy had said I hereby [TS]

01:07:50   outlaw the Hat we would have every tea [TS]

01:07:53   partier in the country would be wearing [TS]

01:07:55   a hat right location of people in hats [TS]

01:07:58   hello Kennedy was just like I don't need [TS]

01:08:01   to have a cool again how we're proud of [TS]

01:08:03   my cold dead head but have you seen [TS]

01:08:06   there's that there's a great shot of [TS]

01:08:09   kennedy and johnson walking across [TS]

01:08:11   walking in a in a rainstorm across a [TS]

01:08:14   across an airfield and Kennedy doesn't [TS]

01:08:18   have an overcoat on he's just in his [TS]

01:08:20   suit and Johnson showed up like all the [TS]

01:08:23   other guys with an overcoat [TS]

01:08:26   and he realized that he was going to [TS]

01:08:28   look like he was going to look like a [TS]

01:08:30   pussy if he had this overcoat on so he [TS]

01:08:33   takes the overcoat off and he's carrying [TS]

01:08:35   it is him in his arms and he's been [TS]

01:08:37   walking across this airfield and Johnson [TS]

01:08:40   has this look on his face like why [TS]

01:08:41   aren't you why aren't you wearing your [TS]

01:08:43   coat [TS]

01:08:44   this is crazy but he he was savvy you [TS]

01:08:47   savvy enough to know don't show up to a [TS]

01:08:50   no code party wearing a coat [TS]

01:08:52   you know and even handed me the code I [TS]

01:08:57   don't need a coat is very is very wise [TS]

01:09:00   man i would never thought of Johnson I [TS]

01:09:01   mean I know he's was extremely [TS]

01:09:03   politically savvy and powerful but they [TS]

01:09:05   eat so that for him though you think [TS]

01:09:07   guessing that was not something about [TS]

01:09:09   about vanity and appearances in this in [TS]

01:09:13   a sense of like people thinking is [TS]

01:09:14   fashionable it would be because he [TS]

01:09:16   didn't want to look like some fruity [TS]

01:09:17   dork was afraid of rain [TS]

01:09:19   well it's like that scene in the movie [TS]

01:09:20   MacArthur where he's you know it's [TS]

01:09:24   during the war and he's reading fan mail [TS]

01:09:26   or his assistant is reading fanmail [TS]

01:09:28   allowed to him from people back in the [TS]

01:09:31   states and they're saying you know [TS]

01:09:33   they're sending this worshipful mail and [TS]

01:09:35   then he reads a letter from a little kid [TS]

01:09:37   who says you know General MacArthur why [TS]

01:09:41   why are you always walking around [TS]

01:09:43   carrying a bamboo cane [TS]

01:09:45   do you have an infirmity are you lame i [TS]

01:09:49   was just an application it was just an [TS]

01:09:51   expectation and and everybody in the [TS]

01:09:53   room like the room gets quiet and [TS]

01:09:54   everybody's looking at him because [TS]

01:09:56   MacArthur head the cane he had the [TS]

01:09:58   corncob pipe he had the glass and grab [TS]

01:10:01   your lenses the gold braid on his hat [TS]

01:10:03   like the man had had more applications [TS]

01:10:08   and Truman Capote he group he had had a [TS]

01:10:14   duffel bag full of like props and he was [TS]

01:10:18   like a sartorial carrot top [TS]

01:10:20   yeah thanks yeah you're right it was a [TS]

01:10:22   prop comic except he was the general the [TS]

01:10:24   army and of course I'm wearing this [TS]

01:10:27   toilet seat for ya and the general as [TS]

01:10:30   all he and everybody gets quiet because [TS]

01:10:32   I my god this kid just you know just [TS]

01:10:35   said the emperor has no clothes [TS]

01:10:37   basically my heart there walks really [TS]

01:10:40   slowly across the room I mean I was like [TS]

01:10:42   this is this is Gregory Peck as [TS]

01:10:44   MacArthur I wasn't there to see the real [TS]

01:10:47   MacArthur but i have a good authority [TS]

01:10:49   from this movie he walked slowly across [TS]

01:10:51   the room and he throws his bamboo cane [TS]

01:10:54   in the garbage can and everybody laughs [TS]

01:10:56   but it is true that from there was a [TS]

01:10:59   there was a moment during the war when [TS]

01:11:00   all the sudden MacArthur no longer had [TS]

01:11:03   his cane and you never saw it again and [TS]

01:11:08   it was yeah to prove to present the [TS]

01:11:10   impression of a bigger how important you [TS]

01:11:14   think that stuff is and again out [TS]

01:11:15   speaking of another I general i learned [TS]

01:11:17   about from movies like with patent you [TS]

01:11:19   know he seemed like I was in military [TS]

01:11:21   school the guys that you would really [TS]

01:11:22   respect in the administration we're [TS]

01:11:24   clearly people who had been in the [TS]

01:11:26   military and particularly this marine [TS]

01:11:28   not an ex-marine then the Marine who ran [TS]

01:11:30   our naval academy he just looked like a [TS]

01:11:33   million bucks he had no reason to dress [TS]

01:11:36   like that but he looked great i mean he [TS]

01:11:39   did not coerce you didn't spot on his [TS]

01:11:41   seems were impeccable do you think part [TS]

01:11:44   of that is I mean obviously there's [TS]

01:11:45   there's a status part of it but there's [TS]

01:11:47   another part of it is also like I'm out [TS]

01:11:49   here like in the shit and I still look [TS]

01:11:52   awesome [TS]

01:11:52   like I'm getting stuff done but you've [TS]

01:11:54   got to respect me because I look great [TS]

01:11:55   in this time of privation and violence i [TS]

01:11:58   still look awesome [TS]

01:11:59   like what part of it it absolutely is [TS]

01:12:01   and I think a lot of the you know Brooks [TS]

01:12:04   Brothers if you if you get it really [TS]

01:12:06   inside the whole Brooks Brothers machine [TS]

01:12:10   you can find the place where Brooks [TS]

01:12:14   Brothers still Taylor's uniforms for [TS]

01:12:18   officers like they have a whole state of [TS]

01:12:21   a whole section of their tailoring [TS]

01:12:23   department that makes uniforms for naval [TS]

01:12:25   officers and army officers who come from [TS]

01:12:28   a certain background and if you are you [TS]

01:12:33   know if you are a scion of a of a [TS]

01:12:36   prominent family and you join the Navy [TS]

01:12:38   you don't just get issued a uniform [TS]

01:12:40   you're going to get report a you're [TS]

01:12:42   going to get up bespoke artisanal [TS]

01:12:44   exactly you're going to have a uniform [TS]

01:12:46   Taylor just as all of your closer than [TS]

01:12:47   two [TS]

01:12:47   and I think a lot of it is that you know [TS]

01:12:50   I've told you that my dad refused to [TS]

01:12:52   wear jeans because they were enlisted [TS]

01:12:54   men clothes and DVD calm down girl hates [TS]

01:12:58   he did he said I'm a goddamn office i [TS]

01:13:02   wear khakis I don't wear jeans but but [TS]

01:13:07   until very recently it was true that the [TS]

01:13:11   clothes made the man you you could tell [TS]

01:13:14   by a person's tailoring where his [TS]

01:13:17   station was in life and at a certain [TS]

01:13:20   point it people who had as as we can and [TS]

01:13:27   then and this was because you could not [TS]

01:13:28   afford clothes like that unless you [TS]

01:13:30   lived unless you are a member of Estrada [TS]

01:13:33   and sometime in the sixties when people [TS]

01:13:36   started to have disposable income and [TS]

01:13:38   you saw you know you saw first that that [TS]

01:13:41   guys were spending a lot of money on [TS]

01:13:43   flashy clothes i mean i guess that [TS]

01:13:44   started as far back as the thirties but [TS]

01:13:46   you know guys were wearing flashy [TS]

01:13:49   clothes but then Ralph Lauren was really [TS]

01:13:51   the one that introduced the idea of [TS]

01:13:53   clothes that looked like the close of [TS]

01:13:57   people with money and you could just go [TS]

01:13:59   and buy these clothes now [TS]

01:14:01   you didn't have to you didn't actually [TS]

01:14:03   have to go to j press or you didn't have [TS]

01:14:06   to inherit these clothes from your [TS]

01:14:07   father [TS]

01:14:08   you could go buy clothes that looked [TS]

01:14:10   like you had money and now we live in a [TS]

01:14:12   world where like Seattle there are no [TS]

01:14:15   dress codes in any of the restaurants [TS]

01:14:17   here because some of the richest people [TS]

01:14:19   in the world live in Seattle and they [TS]

01:14:22   dress like slobs like a dress Steve [TS]

01:14:26   Ballmer I don't you know I can't imagine [TS]

01:14:29   he's just one of those guys where you [TS]

01:14:32   can put him in a ten-thousand-dollar [TS]

01:14:33   suit and it would look like he'd been [TS]

01:14:34   sleeping in it like these insane hey [TS]

01:14:38   pepper not there there there are people [TS]

01:14:41   here who will show up to the nicest [TS]

01:14:42   restaurant in town in a fleece jacket [TS]

01:14:45   and some Dockers and we are all expected [TS]

01:14:48   to admire them [TS]

01:14:51   for their commitment to comfort for [TS]

01:14:54   their commitment to their what they [TS]

01:14:56   consider to be there like Street [TS]

01:14:57   credibility they don't they don't have [TS]

01:15:00   to dress up because they're so rich but [TS]

01:15:02   what it you know what it's done is it's [TS]

01:15:04   undermined one of the easiest ways you [TS]

01:15:08   know and I and intentionally and in a [TS]

01:15:10   clinic in a cool [TS]

01:15:11   egalitarianism American Way the [TS]

01:15:14   traditional ways that we told one [TS]

01:15:16   another apart and could tell who was a [TS]

01:15:18   you know who you would off your hat to [TS]

01:15:21   who are all gone and now if you see a [TS]

01:15:24   guy walking down the street in a really [TS]

01:15:26   really great suit chances are he's a [TS]

01:15:29   young guy who is spending his disposable [TS]

01:15:32   income on close it is it's it's like it [TS]

01:15:36   reads as a cup appearance in court you [TS]

01:15:39   know your price and when you show up in [TS]

01:15:41   your like a tech entrepreneur is on the [TS]

01:15:43   one hand it it makes yes it makes you [TS]

01:15:45   look like a person of the people because [TS]

01:15:47   your your your dress down it but in a [TS]

01:15:50   weird way it also Telegraph's a lot of [TS]

01:15:51   power but if you could be the one at the [TS]

01:15:53   meeting you know where Stan Smith's up [TS]

01:15:56   on the table [TS]

01:15:57   yeah you know it is power it is down to [TS]

01:15:59   earth but it's a kind of power that is [TS]

01:16:02   trading on like I am powerful enough to [TS]

01:16:04   disrespect the right ninja so you know [TS]

01:16:08   none of you guys should do this yeah [TS]

01:16:10   right and and so so it is you know it is [TS]

01:16:13   it is actually the wrong kind of power [TS]

01:16:16   you know the power of being up being [TS]

01:16:20   able to disrespect the rules is an [TS]

01:16:24   adolescent expression that's why you're [TS]

01:16:26   mad at politicians that's why I'm mad at [TS]

01:16:28   everybody that's why i'm at the entire [TS]

01:16:30   world [TS]

01:16:31   this comes up a lot it's very it's [TS]

01:16:32   really disorienting to not have a way [TS]

01:16:34   that we can know this is certainly you [TS]

01:16:36   and I you know given our own sartorial [TS]

01:16:38   decisions uh probably benefit from the [TS]

01:16:40   fact that we don't don't have to get [TS]

01:16:41   dressed up but i think it's kind of cool [TS]

01:16:43   in New York there are many things i [TS]

01:16:45   think it's kind of cool that people [TS]

01:16:46   still like dress-up I I'm glad I don't [TS]

01:16:48   have to do it but I think it's neat that [TS]

01:16:50   people still get dressed up to go out to [TS]

01:16:51   dinner and stuff yeah how else are you [TS]

01:16:53   going to know that you're in the [TS]

01:16:55   pretenders if you're not walking against [TS]

01:16:58   a tide of guys in bowler hats and [TS]

01:17:00   umbrellas walking across the Thames [TS]

01:17:03   like I bet I bet the guys in the [TS]

01:17:05   pretenders were like all the time [TS]

01:17:07   thinking of themselves what the fuck who [TS]

01:17:08   am i again and then alright i'm in the [TS]

01:17:12   pretenders because everybody else on [TS]

01:17:14   this bridge is where was wearing a suit [TS]

01:17:16   mm that's how the guys in pink floyd new [TS]

01:17:18   knew that they were in a band to band [TS]

01:17:21   now now the only place you can find that [TS]

01:17:22   is in is in New York City or Vienna you [TS]

01:17:25   know the guys in Vienna dress pretty [TS]

01:17:27   good i believe shot sharp dressers the [TS]

01:17:31   real close town everything I know about [TS]

01:17:33   Vienna comes from one Falco song and the [TS]

01:17:37   third and up like the music in that [TS]

01:17:43   movie [TS]

01:17:43   yeah yeah we should Falco song Vienna [TS]

01:17:47   calling ooo Vienna calling every Falco [TS]

01:17:51   song had 200 was part of the o.r [TS]

01:17:55   tourists around commissars in town [TS]

01:17:57   ooo I guess I you know what i miss West [TS]

01:18:02   Berlin think I wasn't asking but maybe [TS]

01:18:07   get Buster in a bus day I angels on me [TS]

01:18:11   but I like Alexander blog that talks [TS]

01:18:13   like that silly old man fucks alone and [TS]

01:18:16   columbia office in coffees was the wings [TS]

01:18:18   of desire i don't know that i will of [TS]

01:18:20   course you do it's that movie everybody [TS]

01:18:22   saw with the angels in the library and [TS]

01:18:24   the the trapeze lady and colombo [TS]

01:18:26   remember that circa nineteen [TS]

01:18:27   eighty-seven about the back wall this [TS]

01:18:31   big big in German 97 i was already i was [TS]

01:18:34   already really going from half rack of [TS]

01:18:38   Schmidt to have recommended you don't [TS]

01:18:40   get too many movies that way so do you [TS]

01:18:41   have seen Hitler rage videos where they [TS]

01:18:43   got with Hitler's freaking out and from [TS]

01:18:44   that like pretty good movie last days in [TS]

01:18:46   the bunker or whatever it's called [TS]

01:18:47   oh yeah i have seen mr. that actor bring [TS]

01:18:49   against please like it plays an angel in [TS]

01:18:51   its it's really good but not nearly as [TS]

01:18:53   good as you remember where i remember [TS]

01:18:54   this is the problem with this was the [TS]

01:18:56   problem with with me and culture as soon [TS]

01:19:00   as I left high school and became a [TS]

01:19:02   dedicated drinking person for [TS]

01:19:05   from 1980 values your duck from 1987 to [TS]

01:19:09   1997 like they're they're huge holes in [TS]

01:19:15   what i understood what i know about [TS]

01:19:16   popular culture because i just did I I [TS]

01:19:18   didn't have any money and I was not [TS]

01:19:20   living [TS]

01:19:21   I was subterranean I wasn't living above [TS]

01:19:23   ground so what in if you were in a bar [TS]

01:19:25   it wasn't to watch friends know or I [TS]

01:19:28   would never be in a bar where they had [TS]

01:19:30   TVs you know they didn't have tvs and [TS]

01:19:33   the bars that I drink in my hand all the [TS]

01:19:34   TVs but I think we're not College where [TS]

01:19:37   there's so much stuff that like is now [TS]

01:19:38   so much part like your your body the [TS]

01:19:40   child actor I star trek new generation [TS]

01:19:43   started and I i I've never been a Star [TS]

01:19:46   Trek fan or anything against star trek [TS]

01:19:48   but like everybody I know that's just a [TS]

01:19:50   little bit younger than me that's a real [TS]

01:19:53   touchstone for them maybe not quite as [TS]

01:19:55   much as Star Wars was for me but you [TS]

01:19:57   know they know so much you know there's [TS]

01:19:58   something you missed like age-wise I [TS]

01:20:00   just miss transformers I was more of a [TS]

01:20:01   micro not sky [TS]

01:20:03   yeah micronauts of course obviously yeah [TS]

01:20:05   that Baron Baron Zemo that's many [TS]

01:20:07   adventures but this the big remember the [TS]

01:20:09   big black armor guy i still have I still [TS]

01:20:11   have a little handful really well-made [TS]

01:20:13   the metal ones were really well made but [TS]

01:20:15   no I had to you have these ladies I [TS]

01:20:17   think everybody has these latent periods [TS]

01:20:18   and i was really in a bubble in a way [TS]

01:20:20   that i am very happy about in college [TS]

01:20:22   i'm glad that i was removed from you [TS]

01:20:25   know even hearing stuff on the radio [TS]

01:20:26   when I was in college it's nice to have [TS]

01:20:28   a break from that [TS]

01:20:29   yeah yeah because when you're in high [TS]

01:20:30   school you are just you're so hyper [TS]

01:20:34   aware of everything every new cultural [TS]

01:20:36   thing and write about the right about [TS]

01:20:39   when peter gabriel's so came out i just [TS]

01:20:44   went off the reservation i suddenly [TS]

01:20:47   associate that with starting college [TS]

01:20:48   yeah yeah me too and I and I i just i [TS]

01:20:53   came back came back to the world [TS]

01:20:56   sometime in 1997 you time-traveled you [TS]

01:20:59   came you came forward and he said Peter [TS]

01:21:01   Gabriel he's a good-looking guy you [TS]

01:21:02   gonna do it dude he's bald as a super [TS]

01:21:05   creepy weird now yeah and walks walks [TS]

01:21:07   like with a limp and wears a an [TS]

01:21:09   ankle-length leather trench coat or am i [TS]

01:21:11   confusing him with Rob health [TS]

01:21:13   haha i would love to see Peter Gabriel [TS]

01:21:18   riding on the stage on a motorcycle very [TS]

01:21:21   awkwardly I would love to see a [TS]

01:21:23   collaboration between Rob Halford and [TS]

01:21:25   peter gabriel huh with with like Moby [TS]

01:21:30   does the music okay sa9 up here Gabriel [TS]

01:21:33   place flute and I know Rob how four [TS]

01:21:35   plays a kind of flute [TS]

01:21:37   yeah but I I don't know it just written [TS]

01:21:44   in the tab fuck it we're done here [TS]