Ep. 71: "Everybody Has a Hamburger"
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hello a jack a line Maryland ask going
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pretty good how are you go but don't get
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that's good that's really early i just
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thought i'd say that so that we would
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feel some the soulja take us back to the
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old days the old days when it was early
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instead of like at night which is what
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we're doing now i think was adjusted
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well how do you feel it's different
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hmm well but you know we've not that it
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matters but we know we received some
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plot it's from people seem to enjoy the
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later recording time I think it's pretty
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good on our fans but we don't care about
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their praise that's the supertrain
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talking I care
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yeah I know you care for your gentle
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your soft I don't know about that yeah
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you're right
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yeah yeah yeah yeah I had kind of a
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heavy meal
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oh you did you know what I just did let
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go into the taco bus but it but I didn't
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have enough time to eat
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sounds dirty it is dirty or el taco bus
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as i call it because i'm sure a polyglot
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i am and i'm out sort of an
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internationalist low slow Stocco bus and
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i went there but I didn't have enough
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time beat so there's there's talk of us
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food downstairs and it's in it's a it's
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it's my prize it's my prize that's
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waiting for me
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what's terrible is still hot doesn't
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matter i'll come on
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no it doesn't matter because Merlin I
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like food that is room temperature
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huh is that like a Chinese energy thing
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I mean you know well a little
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well no do you mean like is Mike and
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drinks like you know I I you know
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working on but I think you're not
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supposed to drink at anything while
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you're eating but especially you can't
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drink cold stuff when you're pregnant
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because of functions way i see i gotta
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look that up that it just general
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cheese are aligned with your other
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cheese is some you know they don't have
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a lot of cheese in Chinese food
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uh oh god I hate myself up you know what
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that was pretty good i believe in and
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allow it sorry Billy Graham limp I'm
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limping now here's my question now
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so you like room temperature foods that
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go both ways do you like do you like you
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like yogurt to come to room temperature
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and you like your beef you know to get
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the you know get too comfortable 70
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degrees
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yeah kind of I mean of you I'll put it
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this way i do not object to to any food
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that is either cooled or warmed up from
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its from its initial serving temperature
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huh to closer than room temperature and
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some people find it repulsive that i
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will eat a lot of for instance open a
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can of food and just eat it out of the
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I've been affronted by that yeah and a
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lot of people are there like that is
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that's disgusting them like what what do
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you think he is doing to it
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hey you guys okay it's always have you
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guys always have a reason I you know
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what is this guy who's this guy's i have
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had a couple i think i've had a couple
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being eaters like you that I that I have
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been acquainted one of my one of my very
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good friends in high school
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first of all would eat pretty much
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anything and you can eat it in almost
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any state
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yeah and I think I don't know that to me
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there's three parts to it there's the
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first part which is the eating it out of
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the original container what it really
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says bachelor for life anything up and
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then there is the get it matter i mean
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does that does that do if you get
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takeout you want you like to decamp it i
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am notorious in my household for liking
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piping hot food right now I'm not not
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not not i mean my mind my sister-in-law
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your head dunkin donuts coffee course
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it's pretty good coffee and they're kind
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of famous for how scalding-hot their
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coffee is and its really you know it's
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really i mean i'm not to say anything
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because you know my family or island
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well you know Papa stage if I say
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anything but it's good it's not like the
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best coffee I've ever had
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she has the microchip is it super hot
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though because you're supposed to you
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know you're going to be on like a
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four-hour stakeout
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oh yeah everybody doing was a cop but
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then she has the microwave it to make it
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yes can you imagine microwaving dunkin
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donuts coffee will you
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you know you know the whole story about
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the exploding hot-water heaters
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I don't think I know that all started
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the old story see any hot water heaters
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don't explode anymore because they have
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like 17 layers of failsafe valves and
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vents and stuff to keep this from
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happening
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ok this is something i learned that they
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say it's like it's like a big slightly
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sophisticated teakettle historic city
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channel it's a sealed teakettle and if
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you're if you don't have if you don't
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have like shut off valves for the for
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the heating element and also steam vents
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for the steaming elements what happens
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in a hot water heater if especially one
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that's like two-thirds full the this the
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the water gets hotter and hotter and
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hotter but it can't boil because as it
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gets hotter and also the pressure
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increases and the pressure increases and
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pressure increases in the water gets
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hotter and hotter without boiling and
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then finally the pressure gets so great
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that the hot water heater explodes and
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the second that there's an opening all
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like 80 gallons of water turns to steam
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instantly and how water you can blow up
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your house how guys like flash flash
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explosion of like instant steam and all
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that pressure can like you can flatten
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your home now when today as an industry
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fix that they fixed it i think after the
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great water the great hot water heater
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explosion epidemic team of the nineteen
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thirties but we're all those people were
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killed at work because they were they
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were sealing the fire exits
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all right there the Triangle Shirtwaist
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water heater and thread the internship
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with water heater incidents voices easy
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the second part
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the second part is the room temperature
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part yeah i loved Gillard's playing on
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that guy's solid heat heat you don't
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know who they are
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never he never listened to them you
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never thought to an entire gotta be with
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someone in your life but I happen to be
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friends with the killers
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well I never signed you is wife on
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livejournal blender
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tell me more remember he chides journal
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i remember being very mad at livejournal
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because you were on livejournal with a
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bunch of like our love our seat mafia
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bunch of teenage girls who were talking
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about me I it and then i would say well
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what are they saying and nobody would
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tell me more they will say things old
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they would go with the secret code you
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could and if you weren't on there then
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you didn't get to know ya they're
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talking about me I should know nobody
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would say nobody would say was a series
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of private handjob booths you know and
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we know it's what happens in the booth
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hmm the second part is the room
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temperature so it's it's like here's the
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thing if you were a hobo with it's a
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little bit of fucking human dignity
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you'd stick and over fire like a
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gentleman
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we're dead and i'm gonna get a minute
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i'm gonna come to a very specific sense
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memory of this and and i think the third
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part is i think if you're the kind of
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person that eats out of a container and
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B has it at room temperature
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you're not here you're not above picking
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up something that might have been open
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and room temperature for a while
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yeah maybe even of an unknown amount of
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time and picking it up this could start
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something as simple as the guy who eats
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the maguro that's been on the table for
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an hour and it could go all the way up
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to my friend who would eat ravioli that
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was almost blew and I don't Miles Davis
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I definitely I definitely have like back
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in my college days would would wake up
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in the morning and it because of my
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because of the position that i was the
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night ended up sleeping in which was
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kinda half on the floor i would have you
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under my bed is your graffiti right
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there a 5-4 have on the floor and then
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I'd be like looking looking at my bed
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and I'd be like oh there's two slices of
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pizza in there and ideas yeah okay pizza
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is here pizza i hope i will give you a
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papal dispensation
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Pizza yeah the thing is a hobos when
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they were cooking those cans of food on
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the fire it was because those were cans
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of raw ground pork
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this was a very popular food during the
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Depression did that happen glenn hey
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glenn hey raw ground pork and you have
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to cook that stuff
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yeah butBut modern food is all cooked
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it's cooked in the it's cooked in the
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King gets its flash-fried or it's a
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that's right yeah it's steamed with
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steamed or boiled and so if i open a can
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of say chef boyardee ravioli oohs thats
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the sense memory at the equator a minute
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oh my god it was getting it was live up
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John if I told you the story it was
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literally chef by 40 or was ready yet
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revealed Julio's yeah that's exactly
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what he ate was almost blew heating them
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up just it just fills the house with the
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smell of a cat that died on top of a
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furnace and what you know it literally
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smells like barf
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it smells like like a dead cat or barf
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who are very similar in smell who he was
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eating real temperature the room
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temperature cat if you don't hit him up
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you don't have that that they don't
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smell like that they just smell like
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mother smell like like to that's a
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really good point did of Brussels
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sprouts if you'd like an apple you're
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good to go
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voilà voilà not i had i had at some
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point I don't remember that block this
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out but at some point I had made some
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canned probably store-brand ravioli in
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my in my in my doorman I don't know why
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would have left any as i remember it was
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a very very small bit that was left in
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there and with a completely straight
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non-ironic non jokey non frat boy non
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hey look at this expression my very good
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friend said are you know the classic I
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gotta get a name for what you guys are
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the classic room temperature just the
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temperature wrists are you gonna eat
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uh-huh and I said no my dear friend i'm
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not going to because that's trash it's
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just that i am a freshman in college and
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I don't throw my trash out and he picked
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up the tensile which memory serves like
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a tablespoon next to it it's a nice to
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see to him that if he wanted to eat the
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he was free to do so listen all of us up
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for most likely to succeed in high
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school Jon it's garbage from the
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beginning if you if we can if we can
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rewind to the pump that's chilly this
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very subtle distinction and then imagine
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imagine that same pumped meet said that
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camouflage it's like essential nature
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headquarters a multitude because it's
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like it's like bob hoskins in Brazil
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except those tubes are full of of liquid
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meet and they're making little ravioli
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pods like more thing before between like
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why would you cook it again
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so this is really this is really all
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about me and and my ravioli hypocrisy
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so I'm fancy about whether or not you
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should eat it like a fucking bomb
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missing your sexy pants with his stove
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and his microwave just eat the things
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God intended
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you're gonna defecate why would you
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flush yeah and I and I i SAT there like
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slack-jawed as you do and and boy he
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could he could eat anything anytime
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yeah yeah what-what when I was not not
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in college but a little bit after
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college early twenties i had a static
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three of three bedroom apartment with a
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couple of guys and our kitchen had so
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many flies in it over but somehow had so
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many flies in it that no one ever went
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have to get a student lounge like that
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it basically became a place of the TV
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cross the threshold but somehow the
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kitchen but they remained in that area
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because that is where that was that is
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where they were born that is where they
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fell in love that is where they they
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died their whole culture was there but
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they never came through the door into
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the rest of the house also because there
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was probably an impenetrable wall pot
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lived in this room and they lived in the
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kitchen and we never went in window I I
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never went in that kitchen again i lived
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in three years that was your Munich
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that's right is he said look we need we
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need to reach some kind of a you know
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and have a centerpiece
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yeah you can have the Sudetenland which
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is our kitchen we will have and you want
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to have time he walked out holding up a
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piece of paper saying peace in our time
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is dinner time and then you know the you
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did you read the umbrella story the
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other day I don't think that'll i know i
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don't think i saw that i read about two
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and curry but have only have read about
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the umbrella tell me the umbrella story
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so you know about the you know about the
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guy with the umbrella on the grassy
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oh it this is the faint I know about the
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grassy no I don't think you know about
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the umbrella so right at the moment the
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kennedy was assassinated as he is
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driving past the grassy knoll in dallas
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visible on the Zapruder film and other
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love Zapruder film I could watch that
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all day
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there is a man standing right at the
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point of impact when the first bullet
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hits Kennedy standing with an open
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umbrella and it has law it has long been
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I mean it was one of the major sort of
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like what the fuck's it's a beautiful
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sunny November day sunny day and this
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guy's standing right at that exact spot
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with outstanding under an open umbrella
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parasol don't know the full full on
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black umbrella and so this was a this
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was a thing that kind of made the rounds
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last week the all the conspiracy
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theorist of course said this bizarreness
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not even conspiracy there's any normal
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thinking person would say this
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bizarreness must be connected the man
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with the umbrella has to somehow be
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significant in this in in this moment
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this like historical moment and the
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that and I am forgetting the names of
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both the the the man who investigated it
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and the man who made the documentary
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film about him
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so this is useless well I'm uh what is
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the Warren Commission no no this is this
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is a who is the guy that arrow Morris
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the field ok errol morris and who was
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that the guy that made the film about
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the the about the McNamara Earl Warren
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out no women McNamara is errol morris
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and that is the camera that talks to you
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right right so he is making a film about
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this guy
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Oh Errol Morris is a very interesting
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guy well anyway though no because he's
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very into this idea i'm sorry to
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interrupt you but he has a whole famous
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essay that we should come back to about
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one photograph of the that road with
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cannonball dents in it and the
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authenticity of it he's very I think
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he's a person is obviously he's a guy
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who's always searching for like the
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unexpected truth behind the unexpected
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truth so you're saying he's making a
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movie about the umbrella kyar about
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about the know so he's interviewing a
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guy who went to great lengths to find
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the umbrella God and the umbrella guy
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actually came forward and testified
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before congress at the end of the
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seventies and his story was PS i am the
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umbrella guy yes I stood there with my
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open umbrella and my open umbrella that
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day was a protest against not John F
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Kennedy but it was a reference to
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Chamberlain's umbrella and it was a
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protest against Kennedy's dad who was a
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Nazi sympathizer em or who this man you
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know was like John that is John that is
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extremely subtle it was very was
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extremely subtle and the point the point
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of this little this little the short
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film that I watched was that if you
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examine any historical moment in
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excruciating detail like you like you
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like we have done that moment in dallas
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that the number the number of things
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that are like too bizarre to describe
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that in any sort of historical like over
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examined historical moment I what would
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blow your mind
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like if you could be if you could if you
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could take apart a photograph of any
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like a any moment like that he would
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find so many unexplainable kind of jobs
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so it's not just related weirdness
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it's not just that this question marks
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on this particular day but that you know
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every single frame of anything that
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anybody shot that day every single
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person was interviewed the research
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ethics like a huge amount of detail and
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you get a Russian one thing where
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there's so many different versions plus
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the documentation anywhere you've got
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that you're going to get different
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things and it's going to sound ? just
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lots of question marks
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yeah you see it in this in the Boston
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Marathon I was gonna bring that up at
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that that's relevant
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yeah although all the redditors out
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there looking at all the photographs and
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they find 25 different guys with
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backpacks and yeah and you're like how
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many how many suspicious looking guys
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with backpacks are there at the finish
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line of the Boston Marathon turns out a
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yeah you know I for some reason and that
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their amorous thing i'll send you a link
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to the X it's really interesting but I
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don't you ever seen this but you know
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they'll be something you see something
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like a really iconic photograph
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I'm trying LOL the closet when a classic
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examples you know the very famous
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portrait of Winston Churchill you know
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looking taciturn and that famous in a
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photo on extending it that tommy gun
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that's my favorite picture of him he's
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he's a he's yeah he's a he's a good
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subject but you know if you received you
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know what the fuck photographer who's
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made an iconic image you'll notice that
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there's an iconic image usually in this
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Chet Baker you don't usually see it
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alongside the 17 rejects with you know
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why texas right sure the the the the the
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memory of the rejects you know the ones
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the ones that did not become iconic
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because that's not the one they picked
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and what always strikes me about that is
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you know when you see it becomes like
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the Mona Lisa
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so are you saying that so many times
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that you kind of go dead to the
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foreground to background that you know
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anyway it's always amazing me when you
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get to see a whole sequence of photos
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where that might be one of 17 photos
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that somebody shot really fast and it's
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amazing how completely different a scene
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looks in like a really literally a
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fraction of a second and it changes the
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entire story i mean if you saw like the
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nurse slapping the sailor in one of
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those you know I'm not one was a VJ day
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yeah TJ davis funny but but I don't even
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like if you see you know if anything was
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worth anything if anything were
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different in that one shot it kind of
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starts to tell a different story or like
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you know the the woman walking down the
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street with the guys the french guy that
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takes all the pictures or bozo nono
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that's what was and what so I think it's
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one so so so was Shawn and a thing is if
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he didn't capture that one moment where
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a bunch of time of the Italian woman
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where all the guys on vegetables are
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whistling at her I think that's the one
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yeah and if everybody if he had captured
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in that one moment it would have been a
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completely different photograph you know
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anyway I don't want to get into like you
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no I was thinking about this George
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territory but that's kind of what we're
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talking about
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well I was this came up for me because
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because for for many years I would say
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25 years ever since i first saw that
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iconic picture of mountain girl sitting
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next to jerry garcia it right before
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Jerry grew a beard mountain girl cherry
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garcia ok mountain girl is a woman named
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Caroline Garcia who was one of the
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original Merry Pranksters she had a baby
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with Ken Kesey and then she hooked up
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with Jerry and had two babies with jerry
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garcia before they married sometime in
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the eighties order but there isn't this
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iconic photograph of a mountain girl and
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Jerry sitting next to one another and
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probably 67 and it's like the days he's
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got big muttonchops and they
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and he's got big big muttonchops and she
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is a she is a gallon her twenties and
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they're both kind of looking up
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she looks like she might be in later
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Kenny she looks like she might be in
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later okay guys that's what she said
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nice photo really nice sweater
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so the first time I saw this picture it
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was back in the eighties when if you
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recall seeing pictures of your favorite
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rock stars was not it was not just a
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simple matter right i mean you did not
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just go on the internet and Google
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mountain girl and get every picture of
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her ever taken you would cut them out of
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circus magazine you would cut them out
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of magazines right and and so you would
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the two pages of pictures in the middle
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of the book because those were the only
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candidate pictures of the rolling stones
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you had ever seen right and i saw this
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picture of mountain girl with jerry
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garcia and on the one hand it is a it's
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that it's a picture of Jerry before he
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had his beard so it is a it is a picture
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of utter carnage and horror because
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Jerry is a terrible-looking person and
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here and he has a very sort of a weak
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chin that his beard later concealed and
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he's got so he's got a real like effort
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for focusing on the scene it's got a
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real mid-seventies my dog speaks to me
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serial killer kind of vibe yeah that's
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he's super uncool that his beard and
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it's crazy to think that he was the
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leader of this whole movement but then
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once he grows the beard then you're like
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it's jerry garcia it's like Santa Claus
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is amazing looking and he rightfully
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never shaped it again but mountain girl
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was tempted me at at 21 years old or
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whatever when I first saw this picture
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she was so beautiful she was like the
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girl in the over minor ski catalog and
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she actually looks a lot like the girl
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and the Obermeyer ski catalog 01 the
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puffy jacket the puffy jacket call the
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ski pants and this picture of mountain
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girl kind of looking up maybe slightly
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slightly squinting her eyes
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care so fresh and clean and it's so
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embodied the sixties to me from my
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perspective in the in the mid to late
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eighties when sixties worship was at its
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highest and i was at 18 and 19 years old
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consumed by this nostalgia for the
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sixties and this feeling of loss and
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regret that I hadn't lived through the
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60s that in fact the sixties were lost
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forever and we were stuck in these
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miserable eighties I wanted so much to
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be with mountain girl and this was not a
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this wasn't it didn't have anything to
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do with liking the grateful dead because
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I didn't particularly like the Grateful
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Dead this is 1 this is a right before
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you're grateful dead hang out period did
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anything you say you had a period we
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hung out with deadheads yeah I did but I
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mean you know i I've always had a period
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of time might I have multiple periods
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simultaneously so I was hanging with a
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look at memory but I wasn't a oh sorry
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where's my bell and here it is ready
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whoo up so you're talking about your
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menses yeah I you know I had had a lot
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of dead as i started three times now but
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it but what I know right but it wasn't
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about it wasn't about that it was about
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this idea i mean i don't know if you
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remember the movie 1969 starring a
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starring role
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what's his name the Iron Man oh wow nice
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pole of opportunity here Robert Downey
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jr. and Kiefer Sutherland and winona
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ryder in a movie called 1969 that came
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out in 1987 or 88 and it was this you
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know it was this super
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super stroke off kind of like the
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sixties man the sixties are gonna make
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didn't the nineties going to make the
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sixties look like the eighties matter
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whatever dennis hopper's famous quote
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but uh but anyway so I spent years
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thinking that mountain girl was you know
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like kind of this beautiful girl like my
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ideal hippie girl but I had only ever
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seen the one picture of her literally
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there were no other pictures of mountain
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girl and I thought I guess at a certain
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point many many years ago I just assumed
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that she had gone up into the mountains
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and never come down or that she had
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turned into an eagle or I don't know
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what happened i did i had no idea what
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having a mountain girl and what happened
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to mount girl was that she married jerry
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garcia had two kids and wrote a book
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about cooking with pot or something and
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she's still alive today and lives in
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santa rosa and I so the other day i was
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just i don't know why i was thinking
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about it but I googled her and they're
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all these pictures of mountain colonel
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and you look at it from a different
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angle and I mean she's cute
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you know but just like a an assistant
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manager at a health food store
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yeah she's not so cute that that she
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would burn herself into your into a
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person's mind for 425 years but here I
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am like the mountain girl and my
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imagination Trump's the real mountain
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girl and it's because I only ever saw
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this one great picture of her and they
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were probably 25 pictures on either side
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of it that no one's ever seen right so
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unfair considering how many terrible
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pictures of me are out there in Excel
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yeah I look you look really different
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from different angles
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I don't think I'm going to shave my
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beard again it's not because I have a
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weak chin it's because i have the chin
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of a thousand
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men having too much in your beard Shape
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face have too much I've too much face
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oh yeah you know what's interesting
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about you
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it's hard to explain but you have kind
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of big everything
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yeah it's weird like there's some people
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who seem pretty like kind of a
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proportionate but it seems like you know
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like that you can only really have one
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big thing I your potty training that you
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but one like you know it seems like you
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have a real big melon head that are like
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all cans or something those big wide
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shoulder read a lot of guys but he meets
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people sometimes especially Frenchman
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whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo like laundry the giant
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everything on him looks big
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yeah it's Gallic yeah they're not well I
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guess I i guess i'm not Gallic you're
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pretty sexy she in a lot of ways
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oh that's interesting you think i'm
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kinda French but I'm not gonna get
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involved in this again
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all right the guy who I just sent you a
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link to this the guy who took the same
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as photo telling her encourage you look
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at the link because of the other picture
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that came out of that session so it's a
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famous picture of Churchill with his
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head kind of slightly down beautiful
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photo he's got a cane
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he looks great and so cars the guy who
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shot this had asked Rachel to remove the
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scar in its mouth Churchill refuse
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Karsch walked up to Churchill supposedly
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to get a light level and casually pull
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the signatures of car from the lips of
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Churchill and walk back toward the
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camera as he walked he clicked his
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camera mode capturing the quote-unquote
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determined look he's looking now when
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you know that knows that the right is
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that true that link i essentially it
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mostly now he just looks like a fat man
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he's pouting
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mmm yeah but at the time he looked like
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the guy who was going to defeat Hitler
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with his scowl here's the thing to go to
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that page and scroll down you can see
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the one of him smiling broadly from the
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same yeah very different that's like
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oliver hardy right although still with
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the kind of like yeah like the left side
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of his face is fully four inches shorter
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than the right side of his face that
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yeah like he's one of those guys if you
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draw a line down the middle of that
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picture and you look at just put your
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hand over you look at the one-half yeah
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yeah it's two completely different men
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he looks like a courageous twice-baked
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um yeah yeah it's a funny thing else
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into that arrow Morris thing to exist
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it's a good read i don't know i like hot
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food I like medium warm coffee I don't
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get too hot my friends really look down
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on this but I I put a lot of like half
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and half in my coffee you do I think
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you're a half-and-half guy right
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I like half and half but you go through
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a gallon of half-and-half I don't do a
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lot of everything but yeah you're
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absolutely right i am what I'll do is
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I'll make real strong coffee i'm gonna
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hear my office in my dingus and then i
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will pour in a sec this is an admixture
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of hot water and a half and half until
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it's exactly the perfect temperature to
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drink immediately you know you know
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Merlin I will drink room temperature pop
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I've done that I've done that but you
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know what here's the thing I I don't
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want to get too much into your biography
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and comfortable talking about it but you
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know how do you think some of this
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let me ask you this have you always been
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this way or has had some of this come
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out of your like I i recently I you know
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I guess I read those the diaries were
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like he said it sent stuff from your
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walk back to that Professor and i guess
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and i read those pages a long time ago
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and had looked at him again till
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recently but they're fantastic but I'm
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write a book about that that's a while
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already talked about email if you write
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a book about your walk the okay high
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five fucking creeper 420 but i but I
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mean it sounds like your diet was uneven
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at best and then you had you had your
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surgery which is your feet were singing
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was that it or they're working bring
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your bring your fever ringing
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but I mean you know you must have you
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sound like you really did kind of eat
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roots and berries if you were lucky
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sometimes yeah
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did that make you less picky uh the the
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high became less picky um I didn't ever
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tell you the story about how I became
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less picky
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no John I would love to hear the story
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about how you became less picky
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are you sure in the Balkans no no it was
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a long time before i was i was extremely
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picky when I was a kid the pickiest of
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all the major i would only 84 menu items
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macaroni and cheese boiling bags
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Salisbury steaks stoffers staffers good
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boil-in-the-bag Salisbury steaks i would
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eat pizza and I would eat spaghetti if
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you put the spaghetti sauce in the
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blender and blended all visible lumps
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out of it
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how often would your mother capitulate
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to these requests well she the thing is
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she's busy she had a career she was busy
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and so what she what she ended up doing
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what she would make spaghetti sauce was
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just like like drizzle tomato sauce she
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wouldn't put anything in it
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okay um and and the problem was that i
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was i was a I was extremely I was
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extremely stubborn like it was no it
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wasn't a question of I would sit and did
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multiple times sit at a table in front
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of a of a cup of cold peas and sit there
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until it was time to go to bed and you
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know and they would sit me in front of a
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couple cold peas in it for breakfast and
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I wouldn't eat and they would sit me at
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the couple cold Pease at lunch and
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dinner and I just would need and it
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ended and I wouldn't eat until
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continuing to not feed me would
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constitute child abuse and they just and
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it wasn't that I would you know I wasn't
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crying I wasn't I was just sitting
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convenience vegetables until they just
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you know until everyone capitulated and
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i just ate the you know the five things
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that I would eat and when I was in high
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school and had a car at lunch time I
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would go to McDonald's because i was
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growing I was a big i was getting big
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now we go to McDonald's and i would get
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two cheeseburgers a 20 piece chicken
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mcnugget a strawberry shake a strawberry
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sundae an Apple turnover and one other
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thing i didn't need french fries insane
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i would get i would get this this meal
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that would feed like a soccer team but I
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wouldn't eat a green vegetable I
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wouldn't eat a and you know and I and I
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had a powerful gag reflex it's not just
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that I wouldn't eat it but the that I
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would sit and like look like I couldn't
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even if you if you if you put a piece of
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broccoli under my nose
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it would i would be retching like I was
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like I was in a outhouse you know and
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that persisted and na was a big reason
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that I didn't do foreign exchange when I
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was in high school it was suggested that
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maybe what I should do is go on a
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foreign exchange program and maybe that
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would straighten me out or maybe that
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which show me the show me something
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about the world that would that was
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going to change my my weird little
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provincial attitudes and I didn't want
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to go on foreign exchange because i was
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afraid that I was going to go somewhere
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I was afraid to even apply for fear that
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I would end up going someplace where
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they served me frogs legs and clams and
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made me eat lettuce and and so I was
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like no thanks
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you know like I i sheltered myself from
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experience all the way through high
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school largely based on like am I going
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to be able to get to mcdonalds or to
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taco bell and even at taco bell i would
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order tacos with no lettuce while they
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would especially make tacos for me with
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no lettuce
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and the cheeseburgers i got it at
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mcdonalds plain plain cheeseburgers no
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casualties you to grill order to a grill
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or move so so this this was true of me
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into college and unfortunately the food
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that you get in college is basically
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exactly that menu pizza and macaroni and
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cheese boil-in-the-bag Salisbury steaks
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so until i was i guess not know until I
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was 20 I had I had an incredibly small
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palette and and I lived in fear
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you know I lived in fear of the wider
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world strictly because if I ended up
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going home with somebody for dinner and
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their mom put a plate of food in front
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of me then what are they made lumpy like
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spaghetti sauce made lumpy spaghetti so
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let's be totally out it not only what
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you have to eat it but you would have to
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explain that you're picky
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yeah it would end it happened many many
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many times I'm over to somebody's house
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and their mom is like i made spaghetti
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and everybody's like yeah and I am dying
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inside you get panicky I did I was dying
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because I because I I didn't know am I
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going to sit down at the table and the
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spaghetti is going to come and it's and
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it's fine
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or is it gonna have big green peppers in
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it and onions and all these things that
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that I was just like oh no and believe
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me you cannot eat spaghetti at someone's
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house and pick out the green peppers and
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put them on the side here play that
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doesn't fly so all the way until I sell
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admire it was so I mean you know when I
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was I had I done it all and put to put
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the food in my pockets that wrapped in a
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napkin stole the napkin
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no it didn't we have six napkins I don't
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know I've got it tucked down the front
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of my pants but so anyway so I anna and
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i had been like this
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checking all across the states it's just
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like everybody has a hamburger
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you know what I mean in America so if
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you have any choice of food you're fine
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because you just choose a hamburger and
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it's fine
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but then i went to Europe for the first
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time and for most of the time I was just
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living on French bread and cheese and
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every once in a while I would I would
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get a plate or something and I'd you
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know kind of pick at it but but it i was
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pretty much covered like ham sandwich in
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Europe is the same as hamburger over
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here you can find a piece of French
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bread with us thin slice of ham and some
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and some cheese everywhere you go
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but one day i was on a train and it
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deposited me in innsbrook austria and it
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was at the end of the day and I got off
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the train and instead it instead of
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heading heading left i headed right and
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it's you know it's one of those things
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where if you're if you're not just this
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is the lady who made you food
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yeah I told you the story the lady who
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who made me the-the-the-the asparagus
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with the pollination she laid out an
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entire meal for you it was past closing
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time in chi and she spread out an entire
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banquet for you
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that's right that's right i have told
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you the story gets story i'm sorry it's
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ok I shouldn't have said anything i
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should i'm sorry i shouldn't say
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anything
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no that's but that's the story so you
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know my name but I never heard the part
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I never heard the part before that and I
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have to say it's very isn't it
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surprising to me that you are pure picky
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it's not surprising to me that you had
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showdowns with your mom because it seems
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like that would be a kind of inevitable
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battle of the wills that's the problem
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it didn't start with my mom my dad was
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weird about food and I don't know
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whether it was from his dad or whatever
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but but when I was a little kid after my
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folks got divorced my dad would come
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stay with us and one time and it's it's
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a it's a moment that that sticks in my
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head even though i had I I couldn't have
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been any older than about three and a
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but my dad got up with me and my mom you
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know slept in and my dad made me eggs
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and my mom had always made my eggs
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sunny-side up and I would pop the yolks
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and I would eat the yolks with toast and
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my dad scramble the eggs or he may be
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eggs some way and I was a three-year-old
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up until that point
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three-and-a-half-year-old ID and
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everything it wasn't a problem but dad
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made the eggs wrong and I was a little
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kid and didn't and I was like no that's
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not how eggs are that's that when a kid
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is and my dad lost his mind and was
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screaming and you're going to eat those
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eggs and it was this traumatic
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experience where I was like I'm not
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gonna eat those eggs
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those are those I know what an egg looks
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like uh huh
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this is something he'll there's some
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garbage food and it
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my dad and I had a showdown and it was
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the first time and he and I were had
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been you know we're always very close
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the first time there been any conflict
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between us
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wow really yeah my mom came running into
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the kitchen
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leave him alone and my dad was like a is
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you're ruining him tied and it was this
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whole and I mean it sticks in my head
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not just because it has been talked
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about sense but I mean it was a it was
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it made a big the planning a big flag in
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the ground and from that point on food
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was the thing that food was the way that
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I could control my environment
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whoa really yeah and so I never from
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that point on I was just any cut time a
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plate landed in front of me if it was
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something I had never seen before I was
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like no way no way and so my palate
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basically stayed at the at the like
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chicken strips grilled cheese sandwich
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level of a three-and-a-half-year-old and
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it and with every passing year I just
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reinforced it reinforced it in my mind
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and in my and everything I did until you
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know you're 16 years old 17 years old
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you're just like
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see sandwich please or whatever you know
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never I grew up in Alaska I never ate
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fish of any kind wow people would pull
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king salmon is out of the kenai river
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and got him right there and throw him on
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the throne on an open fire and everybody
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else is like digging into this you know
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that the guy i have sense had its course
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but a king salmon straight out of the
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river there's no it's like ambrosia and
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I said get it i'm eating a hot dog and
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my teenage friends are like what is the
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matter with you man this is the world's
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greatest food and I'm just like gross
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but usually do it but I mean you were
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okay with saying like that's just not a
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thing I'm gonna do
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oh yeah okay I mean I was like you guys
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are eating a fish then just came out of
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a river like think about it they're like
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we are thinking about it as we eat this
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delicious fish that just came out of
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this river and I'm like no thanks I'm
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gonna stick with this hotdog this
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amazing fewer hot dog that wasn't just
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in a river
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I mean I was like I was it something you
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take a hot dog you know a lot of all of
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all the kinds of 50
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I mean you know just saying it wasn't
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like you're having inorganic parsnips
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your hand here our plans and butts
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basically far from it and and and and
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presently very familiar the the one
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thing that that that holds over is this
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is that I still eating Arby's
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periodically not very often me too but
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you know an RB sandwich is probably the
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worst thing that human beings have ever
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devised i see i see some signs for stuff
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at our taco bell that i I just I can't
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believe you know what goes into food
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photography
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I'm just my I'm i just sent my daughter
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didn't think that that doesn't like barf
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she's yeah i mean it really it looks
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like art looks like barf I mean all
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those companies you know how the food
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gets there it gets there in tanker
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trucks don't like
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everything at a Taco Bell arrives in a
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tanker and they just plug a huge fire
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hose into a slot in the wall and they
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just pump it in and that's true of our
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efforts to of arbys to but I just it's
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the one holdover from those years so
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anyway after that experience in
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innsbrook then it was like going from
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black and white to color it like it is
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almost get broke a fever or something
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exciting that's exactly right
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it's something popped and I because and
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I think it's because asparagus was at
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the very top of my list of things I
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would never ever eat like it looked so
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wrong it's smelled something terrible
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and and the idea that an asparagus and
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that Europeans have no idea how to cook
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asparagus like like Europeans eat white
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asparagus like not nothing compared to
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to the amazing olive oil drenched
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broiled asparagus
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that's ok but even then even this soggy
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so astonishing that it that could have
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that I was sitting sitting on my cold
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log eating a hotdog average salmon i go
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through this with my daughter who is you
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know she is really she's a five-year-old
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a lot of ways so you know she she
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doesn't want to schedule a lot of ways
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including actual chronological age I am
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yes I guess that I guess that does
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factor into it yes she's not where we'd
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like her to be but she's being five on a
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12th grade level
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yeah but I but you know I have to say to
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her sometimes she's like you know will
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be like just gonna try a little this
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food you know I'm gonna get weird
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because I think and I don't want to get
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into eating disorders is the new Hitler
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but but you know I've had more than one
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woman tell me that their relationship
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with food like yours became really
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fucked up in a divorced family where
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food became a way to control something
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in an environment that they didn't have
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controlling seriously I've had a handful
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of women tell me that that's how they
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got a weird relationship with food so
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not really surprised you know what
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you're saying that in some ways but but
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like with my kid you know
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yeah where were the typical I mean kind
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of like we consider ourselves good about
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this family which is let's just try it
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and just try and and that's really all
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you have to do just try a bite
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that's all we're asking me to do you
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know there's nothing you're gonna like
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we're not going to make you go on a
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roller coaster even though we don't like
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it like we're not gonna make you eat
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shrimp with lobster sauce because I'm
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you live from the house who likes it
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anyway you know what I mean like just
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just give it a spin that's really all
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that were asking
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yeah and the thing I end up saying to
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her that is um you know I try to be
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careful because I just in life i try to
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be careful not to tell somebody who I
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think they are but rather what I think
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they're doing right I'm not great at it
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but in this case I don't want to hear
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your picky eater or something right
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right right now but what I will say is
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pretty much every food we have put in
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front of you you didn't want to try and
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that includes chocolate and I can pretty
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much guarantee that there was at least
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one Saturday morning years ago where you
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didn't want to watch toy story like you
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have a habit of not liking stuff until
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you try it because that's how it works
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right and you know I I think that's
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actually weirdly appropriate you know to
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a lot of things in life you know where
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you know you get this really strong idea
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but uh I've i swear i've met a lot of
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people with kind of sometimes like
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famous but often like shameful things
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like that it's kind of like being an
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adult dead wetter in some ways I'm
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afraid you wouldn't want anything should
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only way a lot huh
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I was a bed-wetter until I was
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embarrassingly hold its at right yeah
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you know my well at least until i was
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introduced until I was in fourth grade
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no kidding that's Sox it did you know
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the the the the thing about my parents
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divorce was that I gave no outward sign
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of being affected God and so all of
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these things all these little little
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broken of like gauges
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it just all came out in these in these
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other ways and they hated everything to
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try and get me to stop bedwetting and in
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the mid-seventies there was the purpose
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that was an appliance and oft there
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wasn't applying now really as it was it
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took the form of a complete sheet of
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like stainless steel thin very thin air
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show no no no under my sheet that was
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looking to make flooding and that was
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connected with to you know electrode
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clamps to a buzzer to a loud alarm and
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if I wet the bed in the middle of the
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night get the water the the liquid would
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hit this this metal sheet and this bad
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rap why that should make a shame problem
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worse and it was it was put the way it
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was sold to us was it was supposed to
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wake the child up and that way they
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would learn to equate their full bladder
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or their recently recently empty bring
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her recently evacuated a lot of causing
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the editor
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yeah with the dude with the need to get
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up in the night and go to the go to the
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bathroom and so uh you know this thing
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went off a couple of times and I was no
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dummy i pulled the sheet back and
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figured out how it work and took the
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took the electrode off the metal sheet
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just you know just one not both care
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lifehacker is I know how electricity
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works and then and then I would wet the
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bed and then when I would wake up in the
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morning I would go oh fuck
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and I would lean over and plug it back
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in like clip the clip back to the middle
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and it would immediately start why lab
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and my mom would come running in and she
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would say you just want the bed now you
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just it's time to wake up you just you
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made it all the way through the night
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and just wet the bed now i don't
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understand i was like boom
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oops and for the for a long time I you
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know I pulled this scam where I was
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convincing my mom that I don't sleep all
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the way through the night and then just
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pee like two minutes before she was
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that's super interesting and that seemed
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better in your mind because it actually
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kind of seems worse better than being
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woken up in the middle of the night I'll
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alarm and gotten out of bed and you know
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put in the shower and close i mean i
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would much rather sleep through the
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night not now of course now I would i do
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not want to sleep through the night in
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wet pajamas but i have much preferred to
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do it when I was you know 67 years old
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right then than the alternative but also
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you know like waking up the entire house
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at one o'clock in the morning
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not a great feeling yeah I know I would
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never say anything against your family
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combo but but but that seems together i
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mean that's like masturbation minutes or
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something like yeah I was the seventies
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I mean you know there were people
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sitting there kids down and put you know
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giving them like quarter doses of LSD
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and flashing lights at them to see what
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they did they could add your are a
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cleanse they could have you know but but
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that was another thing the bedwetting
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was a thing that kept me from going to
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slumber parties and kept me from going
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over to other kids houses so i think
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that i think that the person that I am
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today is absolutely a product of of the
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person i was at ten or twelve which was
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a kid with a you know I had I had this
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sense of adventure that I have but it
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was in the shell of timidity that was a
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you know that was timidity brought on by
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fear of being exposed as a picky eating
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bedwetting
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thumb sucking kid that played with GI
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Joes until he was 17 know like right I
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was a late bloomer Late Late Late this
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is this is one of those things that it's
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just it seems so obvious which is why it
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must be said which is that I think for
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most of us there are very few people
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that are always looking forward I mean
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if you think about anything that you did
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we do in a given day or a week it is for
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most of us in some way a conscious or
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more often maybe unconscious reaction to
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something that just happened and I mean
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in extreme cases you can think of lots
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of you know examples of that but pretty
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much everything that we're doing you
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know even if it's going out to get half
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and half because we forgot to get half a
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we're constantly reacting something that
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just happened to Scientology but but I
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mean the thing is that didn't just
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happen this week that's happened every
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week your fucking life
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you're always direct reacting to
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something that just happened before and
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if all of that is happening and that
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goes back 45 years it's still the same
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thing and I mean if you had if one had
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these these things that really helped
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form your personality into a certain way
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you know I it sounds like I don't know
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if the sounds frightening or something
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but I'm not surprised at all to know
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that I mean to know that that that has
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such a long live effect on one who you
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think you are
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and then what you should be doing to
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react to what just happened
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well and and I i think because i felt a
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prisoner of shame like kids shame right
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and not really shame for anything I had
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done but just kids shame of a you know
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of of somebody and I wasn't even afraid
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of kids pointing at me and saying that
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being a bed-wetter I was afraid of
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adults doing it because of course in the
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seventies it is not it is not so far
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outside of the realm of possibility that
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some coach or teacher or friends parent
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would go wow what a little baby so
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living you know living can find
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bye-bye kids shame i was a big part of
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me that what at some point deciding that
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I would that I would have no shit no
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shame or is it would be rather it would
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be impossible to shame me you know what
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I mean that was the that was the key
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that was the that was the moment the
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moment when I realized that the only
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reason you couldn't be gay in the CIA
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was because that though that would give
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the Russians power over you right you're
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already kind of compromise your
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vulnerable you're vulnerable because you
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can be exposed and the idea that that
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and then and I saw that radiating out
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through the world that people were so
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afraid of being exposed that they were
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enslaved not not you know it was not
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hard to enslave another person you just
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find out what they're scared of other
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people knowing and then you hold it over
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there and right i mean structure that a
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person nothing nothing difficult for
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someone to enslave themselves right and
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that's that's this little suddenly it's
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Oprah but I mean you know that that's
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where you end up having this prison of
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your own design your own personal you
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know Penn opticon of shame which you
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dwell and I i think that that I mean I
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think that has ramifications that are
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they go much further than most of us
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like to think I mean you know i mean
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again it sounds like a cliche but you
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know you want to say to kids like what
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you know that guy who's just you know an
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unrepentant bully like we know in
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retrospect now like that poor that mean
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poor kid like probably was getting his
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if he's lucky just getting his ass
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yeah it might have been a lot more like
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the fact he's hitting he's not hitting
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you like he's hit knuckle Joe right you
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know i mean or he's hitting his his big
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brother who's getting hit by uncle gel
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I've told you the story of Julius McRae
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I don't know that
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yeah sure shot down and give me a shout
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out to get an A
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I don't understand what makes you want
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to be a gym coach doesn't seem like that
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seems like maybe a third level
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fall back mm you know they're all those
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dads this is the thing that Merlin we
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were not jock so we don't understand the
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power of jock dumb
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yes the people who are engineers you
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know where people you know its people
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who are engineers have troubled thinking
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understanding how people who are not
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engineers think because they understand
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the mechanics of how the universe
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operates at a physics level and so they
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don't understand why people would not
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think the same way that they do right
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they don't understand why nobody can
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read the instruction manual that they
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wrote because strangle the road is
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totally obvious to an engineer dr.
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Strangelove is in there you just haven't
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searched enough services yet and this is
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the thing about jocks and and I'm
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convinced of this jocks are jocks live
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fairly happy lives i think much happier
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than mine because because the they're
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just a the life of a jock is just
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uncomplicated by all this yyyy wandering
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wandering spreading fretting fretting
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about stuff that can't be fixed and you
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know chalk throws the ball catches a
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there's a feeling of accomplishment
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there it may be is just as real as the
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accomplishment of writing a novel maybe
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just as real as the accomplishment of
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writing a great novel if you catch a
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great touchdown pass and it saves the
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day for the team and the town like what
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could be better than that and a lot of
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these guys who didn't have the didn't
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have the glory for themselves or their
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you know their glory days are behind
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them and they get to work with kids and
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and bask in the reflected glory of young
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people having those experiences i mean
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at that whole world where where there is
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somebody out there right now who has
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reached his career pinnacle and it is it
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is being like secondary teams coach for
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small Midwestern college and you know
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and he's out there it for 50 years on
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the sidelines season after season
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the sidelines season after season
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I mean those seem like a valid and
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poetic beautiful lives i guess and it's
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never a thing i can i can relate to it
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all out all I can picture myself it if
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if if if it was freaky friday and he and
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I switch positions and I'm standing
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there in those polyester pants with the
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wind blowing over my windbreaker
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watching these kids not even the a-team
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but like the you know the secondary
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defense squad and they're running drills
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and ice
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you know I just see myself standing
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there and watching them for like a
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minute and a half and then looking
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around wondering where the bus station
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is and it but people devote their whole
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lives to it and I might you know my dad
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I think would have been happier guy if
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he had just followed sports if he had
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just followed the sports thread of his
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young life and it found a way to stay in
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um without all the pressure of trying to
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make a difference and trying to settle
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the disputes with labor unions if he had
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just so you know been in that clear-cut
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world of like the dispute is that your
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team is against our team and the
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disputes is benefiting in law and
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politics which is never resolved right
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and you like you have a victory on that
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Tuesday night and then the real work
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begins and you start over or in-law
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I mean it's just all shades and subtlety
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yeah I couldn't do that but you know
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here's one thing you think about think
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about like without my chocks and I mean
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I think we think this from at least in
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my mind like the the jock thing goes way
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beyond who's on the field playing sports
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because you know football teams are big
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if you you know it's yours whatever 11
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people on each side of the field at a
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it's one of you there that and it's i'm
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speaking phonetically but but you know
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what is it 11 people i think so yeah it
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doesn't look at 11 offensive and
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defensive name faces that right 11 a
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little weird number why 1100 all sports
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are done in in Muslim prime numbers
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interesting something that you love
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basketball team
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on a team or on the court at a time
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there are there are there are five
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people from the basketball team on the
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court at a time but you can have as many
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people on the team as you want
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I think so you can have what they call a
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deep bench how many people are on a
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soccer team other on the columns is it
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is it as a prime number
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you know I'm not gonna look but i'm
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going to say what you get you forward to
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get your Center you get your bags 567
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anything is even if you don't let's take
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it as read there's 40 to 60 people on
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the football team in high school which i
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think is probably still a little high
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there's a ton more people than that that
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see themselves as jocks and act like
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jocks and you could be i'm just going to
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stay with all due respect to lard asses
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there are so many lard-ass men in this
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area walking around in era like official
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Giants or you know or worthless say this
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for steam 49ers jerseys are walking
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around and the RNA that delivers their
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fat like fuck in a giant official jersey
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and then they are there they know
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everybody in a first-name basis they
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talk about all of them so I mean the
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apartment not to eat Hodgins played here
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but i think this jock thing goes way
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beyond victory on the field and I wonder
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if a lot of those people who want you to
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shower down to get an A
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we're not like the quarterback I feel
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like you're I feel like you're feeling
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that job shouldn't be fat is the same as
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my feeling that Christians should smoke
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pot oh let me think about that there are
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a lot of fat jocks yeah yeah but i'm not
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talking about i'm not like i'm talking
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about coming by it honestly but I'm
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talking about like the Association you
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know it's kind of like kind of like
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girls who like when a dress up like
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people they've seen us magazine and then
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talk like people on TV you know that
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have been like like inherently wrong
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with that i guess but it's it's no
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different really than like the
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management the bad management of a
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company hiring more people who are like
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them like it's this self-replicating
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pattern of willful dumb fuckery that
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makes me lose my mind anyway I
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understand coaches and the shorts
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they had always had to find jobs that
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are high school I think we might have
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mentioned this once but I had my high
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school we talked by talking about this
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on the mr. Finelli episode but remember
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my high school they had to come up with
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some heat with phony baloney jobs for
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all the coaches i'm sure they're all
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history teachers are social studies
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teachers well I mean in some cases yes
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the drivers at teacher was no one here
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is the text history as a as a pursuit
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and give them a coach because the coach
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is always the history teacher and he's
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always like that uh through French
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Revolution when the soccer coach taught
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taught in school suspension sounds like
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about those a class you guys okay this
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is officially a faculty member because
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he sat in a silent room for six hours
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today watching people who got in a fight
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is it called it you must have been a
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real you must well he was a soccer coach
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was gonna say what a what a Buddhist but
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you don't look like somebody who looks a
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lot like somebody who would like listen
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to Peter Frampton and follow lady to her
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car not getting a good way to get a
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little close to home there buddy
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which pocket can i get your big Frampton
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fan i'm not i know i know i know you
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know the first time I ever heard
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Frampton turns uh comes alive
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that's what started the trick returns
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alive was also the first time i ever saw
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somebody like a fart it's true i was
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over at this kids house and he had big
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brothers and they were playing comes
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alive and they're like want to see
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something cool
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ok hopefully a little okay don't get
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down like i do one of these of the goal
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and let his part
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mm that's living that's right learn the
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a major seventh chord i'm not sure i
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still know it
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oh it's like it's like an able to drop
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the middle one
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oh right oh yeah great for it's a great
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core it's the official court of the
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nineteen seventies and even you if you
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play pretty much anything as a as a
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major 7th you I it invokes the seventies
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right all right
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well i'm going to give that a try since
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we're soon as I i lose you today
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yeah I like it was just out of reach
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lucky you
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so we got to see them that should be the
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name of my autobiography my guitars just
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out of reach the buyer for the last
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seven years finished up it's on my good
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friend will Johnson of the band centrum
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attic last night and he has i have no
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doubt has put out 12 albums since the
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last long winters record i can be so
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fucking annoying and then you have to
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talk to him when you know he's your
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friend and you like him but is there
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some part of you that wants to be
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wetting the bed while the the problem is
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that he and Davis on my wrist and around
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in a circle and Davis on you know place
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200 road shows a year and will probably
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you know does close to that or or a
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wilson 10 bands and puts out for records
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a year and we're all talking shop but
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there was a time 10 years ago when we
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would be standing around talking shop
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and we all had it we all had very
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duplicatable experiences you know we
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were doing the same thing and now we're
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stand around and they're like yeah so
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anyway you know that you know you know
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Jimmy's Chicken Shack down in Las
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Colello Florida oh yeah I hit that place
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or whatever and I'm standing there like
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hey I've given some keynote speeches
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about for you guys
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ah well what about those keynotes right
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am i right
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hey got a new keyboard hurt yeah and
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they're like huh anyway
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no just your you're just preceding that
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I know you're doing it for comedic
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effect here I'm sure but you're just
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preceding that I I even if you are being
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honest i think you you're kidding right
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well a little bit i mean but but there
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is that thing of like why don't you know
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there's there's silence you have a chem
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trails and then it's like all right it's
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me i'm the reason we haven't played any
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shows chair of the consummate god dammit
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John fucking Roderick you've evolved
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yeah you're sitting around like why am i
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not throw my monkey bone in the air and
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having it turn into a spaceship and I'm
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telling you you are the spaceship you
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come you're how i gave my first
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oh shit really yeah I didn't do it be
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pitching vc's know i was at EMP the
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experience music project is definitely
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conference where intellectuals and uh
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and journalists journalists get together
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to talk about pop music as though it is
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a serious academic discipline chair
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which kind of you neither
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ok but i was there to talk about
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weathering the storm the fallout of my
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punk rock article so they wanted me they
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wanted me to have a PowerPoint
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presentation to go along with my speed
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shit and I was like I don't know
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anything about that and they were like
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how it's easy and they sent me a bunch
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of templates in emails that i didn't
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open it send the judge the day before
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the day before I was giving the talk was
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like oh right
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powerpoint thing so I there's a gal that
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works over at the grammy Oh awards where
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i'm also on the board and so I sent an
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email and I was like will you
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you know about powerpoints and she was
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like and I said we make me a powerpoint
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and she said for what I said I'm giving
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this speech she said I know but I mean
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what do you want me to like we should
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get together and talk about this
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PowerPoint thing and i said no i don't
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need to see it just the best i'll be
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like being called thinking can make me a
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yeah basically that I'm and I was like
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just make me a powerpoint demonstration
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that's X number of minutes long that has
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pictures of punk rockers and punk rock
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didn't really like your article very
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much and I was like perfect
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so I got up and I gave this speech with
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a powerpoint demonstration going behind
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me where the slides were programmed to
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change every 15 seconds and i had never
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seen it before and I still haven't seen
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that you're kidding
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because i wasn't looking at what that's
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my bed waiting right there that is that
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is a terrifying idea enemy and the only
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the only advice I gave her was at the
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but i would like the last slide the one
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that's that hangs up there because of
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that inevitably i will go over my lot of
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time so the last light is just going to
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sit there all afternoon while I keep
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talking i wanted to say fuck you that
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she did it but she will she took time
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out of her day to do that for you
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yeah so i gave this PowerPoint
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demonstration we're all these pictures
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of sitting Nancy or whatever we're
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flashing behind the screen tells got a
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horrible powerpoint it was terrible and
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then at the end I mean it was great
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because it was terrible because i was i
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was talking about depends i wasn't
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defending I didn't defend my mom can you
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just have somebody with sink stoppers in
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their areas like slowly flip through an
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enemy or like a maximum R&R while you're
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up and basically what it was that's
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basically it's like just get a barista
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and overhead protect ya that's
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essentially what it was but then the
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last slide said fuck you and I have been
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for the last 15 minutes i just talked
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over the slides and fuck you have you
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practiced it and you're like rehearsed
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it with time and everything
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oh no no no I improvised it because as I
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say I gave no thought to it until I
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arrived but you understand you
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understand my mind my questions
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it's that thatthat's wow how was the
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reception was uh yet you know i like to
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give impromptu speeches who and
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generally the response is good because
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some people people Larkin you're in
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you're very entertaining and I haven't
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done a lot of public speaking but i but
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i will just say that I think slides John
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i heard this a long time ago and I kind
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of don't want to say it to you because I
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I don't want to lose this awesome
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analogy that I have to mention is not
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correct
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but I've heard it said that the only
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people who really need polls when they
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ski are beginners and experts that the
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typical moderate level skier doesn't
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really need the polls to ski interesting
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yeah I don't think you need poles to ski
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I don't mean even an expert doesn't a
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beginner really doesn't either but okay
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stop right there
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good thing I don't ruin it ok no just
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just cause it's so good anyway you take
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the analogy in you know writ large right
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to me that's that slides you know you
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you you know when you are up there and
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you're nervous you don't know what
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you're saying I don't mean to talk about
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my actual job that I have but when
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people do that would make it up there
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they're making the classic mistakes
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they've got a bunch of bullshit slides
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with tiny tiny letters on it and they're
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doing the rookie mistake of reading off
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the slides right into me like when you
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get really good you come up with the
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super polished that to me I knew my
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slides got better when they didn't make
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any sense on their own sure and like it
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is to really frustrate me when people
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first of all demand slides and I would
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wish I had your last slide to send them
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because I would be like you know it's
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well yeah okay some your deck like what
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you want my deck only want to put in the
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binder we were planning on putting the
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vine binder is something people but
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that's what people i mean i'd get 100
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yeah but maybe that's what they do with
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these things you go oh and you see
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someone get me started that somebody
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could sit and just open the binder
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before the thing even starts read
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through all the slides yes and then
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there are done and then a person gets up
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and reads the slides allowed um it could
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be but let's say you've got the greatest
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talk in the world think about this how
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about this how about how about you're
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about to go and I don't have an example
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where you would go somewhere prestigious
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22 like CS three-song set but imagine
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that you went up to do your three best
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songs and right before you went out they
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handed out the lyrics to all the songs
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to the audience stapled together along
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with maybe a biography now if you're the
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typical person in that audience what are
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you going to be doing well somebody
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that you've never heard is performing a
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song at all the following along yeah
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thatthat's you'll be reading the lyrics
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but you'll be you'll be flipping through
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looking at all this and it's like having
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somebody the fucking script for the
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godfather to like right before the movie
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roles good guy you know before you go
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into this building will give you the
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blueprint
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well that's not the thing I gotta hate
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selling diva about this but like it too
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but and that's why to me it's so funny i
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would send people as well fine here you
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go here's my slides have fun and it
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would be likely no sense at all they're
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just know there's one that's a picture
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of a cardboard box there's another one
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that's a douchebag making to Devil's
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horns invites his lower lip and that's
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it you know have fun here's 20 flights
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are you up
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how's that working out love it yeah so I
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mean that's that's the problem
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this is like I've said several podcast
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about this how crazy making it is to me
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that and like I don't know there's
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there's probably this is probably
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actually emblematic of a lot of cultures
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where there's this shittiness of
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presentation culture that is so deeply
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ingrained in not only the people who
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give the talks and not really even need
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the people who have to suffer the talks
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but in the people who put on the tox em
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right and so I've been places where I'm
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expected to stand somewhere I didn't
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talk a year or two ago where and you
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know I when i trihard my slides are
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pretty good but I was at a place where I
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was expected to first hand them a PDF
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because they couldn't handle having like
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you know a keynote file with all the
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bills and stuff so I'm going to a PDF
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and then I had a remote right to change
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the slide
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except that remote actually send a
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signal to someone that turn on a light
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to let this guy in another room no to
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advance the slide
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whoa so so imagine that you had cards
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that you would hold up to let someone
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know which chords to fret
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wow that's how i felt and so I said sure
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I did what I end up doing about eighty
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percent of time which is I want you know
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what this Lots right because because you
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know you can do it right or don't do
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this is really boring but I i think it's
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AII but you know it does get to
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something that was driving me crazy
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which is like but the shittiness of a
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culture becomes you have these ruts like
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truly arrived
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like if you imagine wagons going down a
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road pretty much get 50 wagons going on
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a road there's gonna be some pretty deep
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ruts that those wheels create and it's
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going to be really hard to not have your
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wagon go into this and that's exactly
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what it is n times interesting to use a
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wagon as a rep producer but this we were
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talking about skiing earlier and it
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seems like skiing would be the way that
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you got to the cut to the right
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description i'm going to explain rest of
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my daughter two days ago with what we
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scoot together with soot and I was
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telling her about rats
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yeah rights are rights are a major
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features like you're a teachable moment
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like i can't i could talk for five
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minutes about ruts but they don't really
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become clear until you experience them
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you sure especially if you're going over
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ruts the wrong way oh yeah you like a
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lady and high heels
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yeah well this is a thing there's a
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thing on it on a wagon ruts it's not
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like you're gonna it's not like you want
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to take a different line on your way to
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oregon right here wagon ruts you're
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going to get into ruts you're going to
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go but in skiing ruts getting ruts get
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dug in and then you want to go a
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different way but they're these ruts in
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the way Barry and I could go on Ron I am
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wish avoid the Holocaust this is a
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documentary on Hollywood's treatment of
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primarily the Holocaust but also a
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little bit of pre-war stuff and they
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doing this
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really aww she's very she's walking
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across the camp is it is what's right
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I never saw circuit now is it a
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holocaust movie I once thought it was
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about horses
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it totally sounds like a horse movie so
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these choices about horses and she's as
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credits on this dialogue thought it was
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like National Velvet shower and you
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actually turns out my friend flicka was
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about the state land but I didn't see
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that movie there anyway but she's got
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this really peculiar gate
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she's walking very very strange that
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basically in the middle of this federal
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street or or illustrate your brown horse
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I shouldn't said gate sorry my bad but
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on in her character is you know of
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course she's very ill and she
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walking across the ground meat you know
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being kind of let along by this you know
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one of those me now shirts ladies and
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memorable when you see it but this very
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strange like kind of swaying like almost
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like she's about to fall over kind of
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drunken master sort of way of walking
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and they hired people and consultants
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because they really wanted to get every
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you know detail day they could write and
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she wasn't doing that simply because she
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was malnourished she was doing that
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because there's like several inches of
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mud in the camp and you would make every
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attempt that you could follow the
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footsteps of other people in the mud so
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that you wouldn't get bogged down or or
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fall down in the mud right it's like
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it's like snow also watched three movies
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about anti-semitic propaganda the other
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name that we're not about the they were
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not also about the Holocaust I guess
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given that one was made by Hitler who is
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the is the dribbler Hitler and Hitler
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was the propagation of similar similar
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that mr. filter welcome to give any
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therapist howard county and the internet
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money fight on are off-limits but anyway
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uh so that's why people walk that way at
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Auschwitz right all the brothers ideas
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that actually to document you know what
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nevermind
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yeah you know I i was feeling the other
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day that you know when we talk about
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Semites it's all the people of Arabia
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and the Levant all of the Arabs are also
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Semitic people poop right we we never
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stay but anti-semite only refers to Jews
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well oh ok.what while I take a minute to
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look up a Twitter to you had yesterday
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tell me what that means by semi-tight
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i'm not familiar
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I thought Semitic meant Jewish
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no Semitic is a description of a
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language group the Semitic no shit
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yeah our arabic and Aramaic i am a total
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pike right i mean work ping-pong have a
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piker as a as a Holocaust scholar i
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could not know that
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yeah and Hebrew all these are a language
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group that are one of the endo Sam sem
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but right here you go from the Latin you
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know you digging in
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oh fuck so all of those people are
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called Semites as a because because they
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all share a common language group and
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then I think anti-semite only became a
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only became more of a targeted reference
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to Jews in the in the 19th century um
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during that whole period sort of mid
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eighteen hundreds when the Germans were
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really really wrestling with how how to
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integrate to choose into their culture
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that they decided not to
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spoiler alert but so Arabs are Semitic
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people also and all of this anti-arab
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talk in America that we have been
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soaking in for the last and I'm sorry
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that Arab Arab or Muslim well era
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because this gets me back to your toot
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what did I say in my 2 i'm sorry i'm
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double interrupting you don't remember
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all this that happened after 9-11 was
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like sikhs were being beat up right i
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mean there's this entire Venn diagram of
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confusion about who we were supposed to
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be mad at sure anybody with the turban
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but of course seeks couldn't be further
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like what like indian and pakistani guys
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like it and hassle to I mean it got
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pretty bananas for a while right well
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pakistani guys might have had it coming
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but indian guys not so much huh
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even even though it's a kind of bullying
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clairvoyance even though Indians and
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Pakistanis are very similar racially
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they have very different religions
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could be so could you eyeball a
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Pakistani vs Indian well but there are
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like seven hundred different racial
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groups in India you should be in the
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fucking cabinet John nine hours ago John
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erotic remember that a Chechen is not a
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check i actually ever ever read your
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Twitter sometimes remember that it's
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Chechen is not a check
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norwich ethnic normal avian in Moldavia
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and / moldovan or a Mon Rodian Nora
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Roman Roma or romanian right and as with
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me if I may say I can't believe you fit
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that many fucking letters into a two-up
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but you testify thinking that satisfy
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your exemplifying like a an unbelievable
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error that will make including me right
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you know well yeah so just so there's no
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Chechnya
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oh I don't have to show ya
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instead I should tell you John there is
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one way in which i am so and it's really
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hard can be hard to believe there's one
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way in which i am I don't even own a TV
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guy which is about the news right and i
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am that guy first of all in the way that
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like I actually don't follow the news
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but i'm also that guy in constantly
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letting you know that I don't follow the
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news so I have I i literally go out of
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my way if you could see my filling my
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filter file on tweek pot actually slows
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my computer down 10 it there's no way
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you can you can't prove a negative and
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there's no way you could begin to
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visualize how many things i never see
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anywhere but so Chechnya is part of the
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actual capital R Russia well so that
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area so we're about these countries and
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after hearing about these countries in
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the news all the time
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Armenia Azerbaijan Georgia
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right those are those are areas where
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the Russians have been fighting wars for
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a long time because they are these
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untamed areas between the Black Sea and
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the Caspian Sea at the very south end of
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what we think of as Russia but it isn't
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Russia really at all they are the they
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are the people there are a lot of them
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are Muslims they're there they're
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related to like Persians and Turks and
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they were conquered by the Russians back
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in the day multiple different times in
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ways but they live up in the mountains
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they are Caucasian people because those
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are literally the caucus snare Isis
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mountainous but the they are not they
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are not ethnically russian they are they
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are very much like descendants of
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genghis khan and and they are mad and
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Chechnya is this weird little landlocked
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mountain readout up there that doesn't
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want to be in Russia anymore it's not
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really a self-sustaining place
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surrounded by Russians and mountains and
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it's ruled by an autocratic dictator who
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thinks that he is god like a lot of
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those places you talk about Turkmenistan
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well turkmenistan has it bad check ice
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crossing turkey that guy's amazing
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administration whose becca Stan and
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Kazakh Stan and Tajikistan are all on
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the other side of the Caspian Sea and
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they're much more like steps you know
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they're much more like horse horse
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people those are the horse-riding people
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the long 15 us that name all the months
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after himself
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yeah he's built that he's built a couple
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of Brazilians like big towns out in the
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middle of nowhere that are littered full
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of pyramids and globes giant gold gold
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but so that area is very interesting now
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more Arabia is is a half of the Czech
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Republic so the czech republic is made
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up of bohemia and moravia which are two
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regions that we don't think of their out
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separate countries and never were but
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they are two kingdoms i guess and the
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Bohemians and the meridians feel
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differently about each other they're
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Slovakian now moldova used to be part of
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Romania and they speak Romanian but it
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was absorbed into be Ukraine and so
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became my god John it's like they're
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trying to fuck with us they change the
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alphabet of the Romanian language into
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cyrillic so the Moldovan 'he's which
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that country also before it was called
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moldova it was called Mordovia but had
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that region is now a separate country
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where they speak Romanian but they but
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they spell it with russian letters and
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so all of these places are probably
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going to erupt in war and everyone will
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be sent to camps i am yeah you hear more
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about there's a anti-semitic sorry aunty
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she the anti-gm movies now now you don't
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yet but i mean like the one you still
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see today that's a pretty funny so
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Georgia I mean setting aside the white
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album and who my mind the my daughter
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loves that song how cool is that she's
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here now repeat your daughter is cool to
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turn into that's gets are you know about
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the importance of happiness is a warm
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gun aware of how important that song is
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to you personally or to the world to the
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it was the last song they had fun making
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really yeah you know like we talked
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before about that does outtakes from and
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your bird can sing you can hear how high
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they were and like they're laughing I
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mean they're super duper high right
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there soon want to say I don't sound
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public broadcast sure the sea
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hey might still have you it's fun it's
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really done that's gonna happen camera
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and his podcast has a bullet when I
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could have the doctor and they put the
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piece of paper in front of me ever done
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any drugs or smoke cigarettes and I'm
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like no way haha I'm not telling you
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if you find out if you find an
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undifferentiated mass in my lung
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we're both going to wonder where it came
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from it's asparagus
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ok forget about 17 my friend I have a
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good friend who had had a really really
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bad traumatic injury to his hand me
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heartless years we'll be able to figure
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out who this is and that he went to the
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doctor because I mean basically you know
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he liked s7 and nerve and he had to go
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through all this like it's a big deal
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and and where they went to the doctor
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of course like they do they ask you you
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know d take ibuprofen I do you smoke
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anymore
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like do you do you do in SD drink right
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he paused he paused and then I mean
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continuously if you fucking if you're if
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you're like a anderson nurse but if you
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are the information taker at that
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facility you
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something in a day if you do it often
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enough it was you do that 10 times in
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one day I bet within a week you are
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going to be like fucking Kreskin at
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knowing whether somebody drinks a lot or
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whether someone lies a lot for that
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price right absolutely but they never
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I mean so here's here's some here's some
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possible answers to that
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also here's the thing and this is such
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great hack
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don't ask you drink they ask you how
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many drinks do you have
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week it's the first of all you gotta do
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math if you're trying to be honest
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yeah but you know you could say I don't
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drink anymore which is a good lie or it
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could be four times a week or you say
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your senior couple weekends because it's
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not a binge drinker right and so my
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friend said that the real rookie thing
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which is that he has a couple drinks a
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ok so that's the like he's starting to a
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college is exactly what i would say
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which really means i have about three or
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four times that much right
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couple of drinks and his wife it was
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also his wife is awesome
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it was all she could do not to like
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knock him onto the floor
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she said listen when you go in and you
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talk to anyone whether it's a doctor or
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anyone and they ask you how much you
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drink you don't you tell them i only
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drink socially which is such a great
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answer because it doesn't really it
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doesn't really answer the question all
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but that's such a that's a RK cancer
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that's a Mad Men answer i'll get drink
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socially it sounds like denial
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it sounds likes it sounds like something
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that you heard your father say many
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times or heard sounds like something you
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heard your mother say to your father
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about this that the the nurse and the
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next ron says how many things do you
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have a week and you say to you think
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you're better than me haha
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it's pretty ghetto that's actually a
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good one word god fucking hour and a
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