Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hey John I Maryland has gone [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► pretty well yeah yeah I've just been on [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► the internet this morning arguing about [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► the Beatles with some ding-a-lings i [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► wanna hear about that you're explaining [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► the universe to your daughter today [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► oh well i started doing that and then it [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► made me think that I needed that was [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► more important was to straighten out [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► some feelings haha yeah i was trying to [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► you know I i got the globe out she said [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► where does the Sun go and that seems [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► like a reasonable question so i got the [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► globe out and I got a baseball and i [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► said here's the earth and here's where [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► we live and the moon goes around there [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► is like this baseball at the Sun and [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► then i put i took a headlamp and put the [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► headlamp on and I stood far away from [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► the globe and ice was pointing the [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► headlamp at Seattle and I said when the [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► Sun shines on Seattle it's because it's [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► a big fireball that's far away but then [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► the globe turns and your you don't see [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► the Sun sets on the other side but then [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► the baseball of the Moon can always see [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► the Sun and so the baseball and I'm [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► shining the headlamp on the baseball [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► likessee Seattle's in the dark but the [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► baseball can see the Sun and then she [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► said why do we live on a ball [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► and I felt like that was a really good [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► question and the more I thought about it [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► the less i even had a pity answer for [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► why we live on the bond ball and [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► eventually I said we were born on a ball [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► and we will die on a ball and no one [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► every single person that you know every [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► single thing that you know was born on a [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► ball [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► no one knows why we'll all die on this [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► ball without ever knowing why [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► end of conversation [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► no i don't think so i think it's only [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► the beginning she took that and looked [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► thoughtful and kind of wandered off to [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► think about it I kind of makes me see [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► the appeal of the whole flatter thing [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► though [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► well yeah sure I mean I could sit and [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► explain explain that the earth is a [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► piece of paper and if you go to the ends [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► you'll fall off but that it that makes [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► no more sense but what about Santa [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► well you you bring up a good question [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► because the appears the problem on the [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► one hand i know that i am not smarter [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► than everyone on earth [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► on the other hand i don't actually [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► believe that which so Santa part know [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► the fact that i'm not smarter than [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► everybody on our so on the one hand I [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► feel like I'm trying to reinvent [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► christmas and i know that i am i'm one [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► of many many many people throughout [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► history who have said Christmas is dumb [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► but aspects of it are great i would just [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► like to take those aspects that I like [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► and revisit a kind of pagan animist [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► solstice holiday but also you know like [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► as Hodgman says slowly kill a tree in my [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► house you know practice Christmas in [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► some of its splendor but without [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► succumbing to [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► all the nightmare but at the same time I [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► know that I I like I i know that [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► hubristic people throughout history have [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► tried to do this and they all end up at [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► Grandma's house opening package after [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► package of socks while their children [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► are showered with Barbies that does seem [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► pretty unfair in Roma it almost seems [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► like like there's nothing i can do even [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► at like we march knowingly into [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► catastrophe because the only other [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► option is that you completely reinvent [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► the world and celebrate festivus but [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► anyway has met Santa a couple of times [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► really and I has not been particularly [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► interested or thrilled like it is very [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► uninterested in hanging with Santa [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► well here's the pitch it once and it did [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► not go well I don't you wide if you've [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► noticed when you get up close to the [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► real-life Santa's the department store [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► Santa's I feel like most of the time [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► they are all Jewish men and they are [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► drunk like inch in the only the only way [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► they can deal with that cognitive [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► dissonance [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► yeah that we went to boeing field the [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► other day because Santa was Santa was [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► coming and there were 2,000 kids there [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► to see Santa arrived and I'm standing [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► I'm like will send that there's there's [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► going to be an airplane which is going [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► to be interesting but then Santa's going [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► to get out and who nobody's I mean like [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► my baby is not going to care and my [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► baby's mother standing there said I [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► swear to you [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► what do you mean Santa's arriving in an [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► airplane [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► that said do you think that they have [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► figured out a way to get reindeer to fly [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► what do you think is gonna happen is it [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► Seattle what would you expect that's how [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► she arrived on a plane where the airport [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► and I honestly think that this adult [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► woman had not so we considered what [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► exactly was about to happen like she she [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► maybe was holding out a little bit of [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► expectation that there would be reindeer [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► but in any case Santa did arrive in a [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► yellow t Havilland beaver which is a [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► wonderful airplane and was thrilled to [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► see the airplane and I was thrilled [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► it was a very it was a beautiful beaver [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► highly polished this is a seaplane know [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► it can be made into a seaplane the de [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► Havilland beaver is one of the great [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► airplanes it is a Canadian airplane they [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► don't make them anymore they're classic [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► airplanes but every one of them is still [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► everyone they ever made is still flying [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► because all pilots recognize that this [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► is the great the de Havilland beaver is [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► the great bush plane like it they don't [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► know how many of them made but I swear [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► to you they are all still in the air [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► because people polish them to within an [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► inch of their lives because they're the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► perfect for the perfect plane is now [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► stratovarius of Bush planes exactly the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► Stradivarius of Bush planes the de [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► Havilland beaver it has a rotary engine [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► and nothing can compare to the sound of [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► a rotary engine in full flight in full [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► song anyway this plan shows up Santa [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► gets down out of the plane with his with [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► mrs. Claus and right away you see mrs. [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► Claus's outfit does not match Santa's [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► outfit their different Velvets like a [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► second marriage [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► well he have to figure though even if [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► even if it's even if its second mrs. [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► Claus the first thing she's gonna do i [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► mean i'm not i don't know women a [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► hundred percent but under but [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► ninety-four percent i know the first [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► thing she's going to do is if it is [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► Santa Claus outfit was made by his first [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► wife she's going to make him a new one [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► that matches hers you know what I mean [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► like this is just basic Claus [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► is science mm so her velvet outfit in [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► his Santa suit are different Velvets and [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► right away she foxy know she was a [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► little old lady mrs. Claus second thing [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► I notice is that Santa is a Jewish man [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► and I know that from you know from my [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► studies of phrenology haha and that he's [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► also drunk that he wasn't piloting the [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► heavily wasn't piloting the plane he was [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► leaving and also sad was riding in the [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► back he wasn't even co-piloting he was [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► riding in the back like luggage [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► yeah and then his elves are just two [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► children that are clearly his [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► grandchildren not elves at all but [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► children and so i'm thinking i put on my [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► hat for this I got I got out of my house [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► might be able to get away with a lot of [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► shit when you're pretending to be Santa [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► yeah so he comes he works the line he's [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► a great he's very nice he tells [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► everybody you know he's like pre-selling [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► the like are going to come see me at the [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► santa thing you know he doesn't really [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► didn't really talk like my dad will talk [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► like that or like a Jewish then and I'm [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► thinking you know just more interested [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► in the airplane and I am too but then as [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► he as he marches off i'm i'm i'm i'm [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► back to thinking lamp from caught in [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► this world of like do I i'm busy trying [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► to explain to her that the moon is a [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► baseball but with my other hand I'm [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► gonna tell her that Santa Claus is real [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► well I brought up for a reason I think [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► they both have a lot in common [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► especially in that there are certain [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► facts in the world that grown-ups you [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► know kind of know or you know learning [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► people who were grown-ups now but you [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► know honestly in the case of the solar [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► system and I do like the fact that you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► were in fact the center of that solar [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► system in your description not the [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► headlamp on [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► yeah alright but in with both Santa and [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► the solar system it's only the grown-ups [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► that are troubled really troubled by not [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► being able to explain [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► all of the inconsistencies yeah I think [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► I think I mean maybe maybe it's [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► different with the earth but I mean [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► there's kids every day there's so much [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► shit that a little kid does not [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► understand even if you explain something [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► really simple flawlessly and there [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► aren't that many things that simply to [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► explain flawlessly [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► still they still don't understand [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► they're still gonna have some great [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► question some kind of you know Steve [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► Allen type question or Bill Cosby type [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► question it's gonna make you feel like a [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► dumbass [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► no matter what pops yeah but you know [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► they say they do say the darndest things [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► but you know the you know I just think [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► about like the kind of like media that [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► she consumes like she understands that [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► like cartoon reality you know what you [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► can do to hit somebody with a mallet in [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► a cartoon is not the same thing I hope [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► that she could do to me with a mallet so [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► your little girl is old enough to [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► understand that my little girl still [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► does not still would happily hit me with [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► a mallet she believes in the single [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► mallet theory [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► well the that the thing I'm I guess I'm [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► wrestling with as I have considered [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► christmas is that when I was growing up [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► even though we were a pretty secular [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► house I mean my mom took us to church [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► because church was a social thing in her [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► own childhood and she didn't want to [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► deprive us of like methodism hope [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► whatever didn't want to deprive us of [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the hymns um but I remember as a kid you [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► know seven eight nine years old you know [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► during the seventies obviously [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► Christianity was still in its still [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► provided the popular culture around [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► Christmas time there was no there was no [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► prohibition against talking about the [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► baby Jesus on in crime TV right when he [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► said happy holiday season you really [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► meant Merry Christmas you mean merry [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► christmas and and in in fact like there [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► was a tremendous amount of like [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► sanctimonious religiosity in in every I [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► mean at the end of the Happy Days [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► christmas special or whatever they all [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► the camera zoomed in on the star at the [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► top of the tree and there was some [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► admonition that we [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► should remember the reason for the [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► season or whatever it was very you know [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► Jesus was at the center of the game [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► until the culture wars and the and the [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► you know the feminazis yeah and the [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► Islamic Nazis took Jesus away guess so [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► but I mean if you go back to know [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► actually it's definitely feminazis to [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► blame but if you go back to you know [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► that should charlie brown christmas and [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► the way that they handle you know the [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► shepherds abiding in the field it it's [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► jesus is not the center of even like [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► little drummer boy he is but he's the [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► center of it as like a little baby it's [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► not it's not that the Savior I mean I [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► guess it is in some sense but it's [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► always I think it's always been coded [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► has always been a little bit complicated [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► but this is something interesting you [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► said I want to make sure not to lose [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► though is that when you described like [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► having the trying like make your peace [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► with some version of Christmas that that [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► isn't you know totally disgusting i kind [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► of think that's what everybody had does [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► and I think it's kind of what everybody [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► has always done well but this is so this [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► is my challenge because I some of my [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► favorite memories as a kid are solitary [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► moments that i spent in a in a dark room [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► it is sitting with your disappointment [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► and confusion that this applies [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► throughout the year some of my favorite [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► moments are sitting alone in a dark room [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► but but around Christmastime especially [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► like being there with the tree and the [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► lights are off the trees blinking and [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► it's quiet outside and maybe the snow is [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► coming down but really striving inside [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► myself to find two to access the sacred [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► to find I understood that it was a [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► holiday about God and about the you know [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► about the hot the the higher-ups [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► like the higher up ideas of selflessness [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► and giving and sacrifice and even if i [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► even as a kid I didn't have all the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► judeo-christian language but I [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► understood that that's what we were [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► trying to that was the practice of [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► Christmas and we were trying to access [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► those those ideas in ourselves and those [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► feelings and so that's and and you know [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► ended the thing about december is it is [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► in a lot of ways a very sacred feeling [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► time it's the darkest day of the year it [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► is the very vulnerable in December yeah [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► and-and-and it feel you know it is the [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► inn in a way the quietest month [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► everything is sleeping and so that [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► feeling which which was connected to [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► this this goulash of culture a little [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► bit baby Jesus a little bit Star of [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► Bethlehem which it wasn't clear what the [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► Star of Bethlehem was exactly but it was [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► something in the sky that was both [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► beautiful and also like awesome and all [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► these middle eastern stories but also [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► Santa and the stores and the bells and [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► data and all kind all comes together to [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► create this very powerful and it for me [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► very personal thing that I wouldn't want [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► to deprive my child of you know like [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► that was the one time of year where I i [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► would legitimately kind of sit myself [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► down close my eyes turn my face to [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► heaven and say are you there god it's me [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► it's me heat [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► la marque marga mark again Eric you're [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► hoping you're open you're giving him a [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► shot you're saying here danced and had [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► time to go to the big game and like [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► opening the heart and saying uh I want [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► to be generous [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► I want to love instead of hate i want to [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► you know all these things i was reading [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► this fascinating article the other day [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► about a Japanese zero pilot during Pearl [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► Harbor who crashed his plane on a [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► hawaiian island after bombing Pearl [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► Harbor crash you know he was like she's [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► basically his plane was disabled and he [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► crashed on this Hawaiian island that did [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► not have a telephone and they were about [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► a hundred and fifty Native Hawaiians [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► that lived on this island and three [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► japanese people two of them born in [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► america won a Japanese immigrant who [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► were living together with the Hawaiians [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► on this island and this pilot crashes [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► his plane there and they don't know [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► about Pearl Harbor it hasn't happened [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► they didn't get a phone call and it [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► hasn't you know their shortwave radio [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► has to wait until the until two o'clock [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► in the morning to work or whatever and [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► so this pilot crashes his plane and [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► everybody's like oh how unfortunate we [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► should like we should help this person [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► we we don't speak he doesn't speak [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► English [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► the Hawaiians didn't speak Japanese so [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► they're like let's help this down a [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► pilot and they bring them into town and [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► somebody's like well let's go fetch the [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► those Japanese people and maybe they can [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► talk to him and so the the Japanese who [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► were living on the island come talk to [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► the pilot figure out what happened [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► a pilot in lists them in a scheme to [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► get his get his papers back from the the [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► chief of the island and burn the plane [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► and like and basically the these three [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► japanese conspire with the pilot it ends [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► up in a battle between the the Native [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► Hawaiians and these and the the pilot [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► and his conspirators and on the basis of [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► this incident this was the justification [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► for part of the justification that the [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► department of war used to start talking [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► about internment camps because on Pearl [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► Harbor Day an actual incident where [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► Japanese pilot crashed on an island and [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► and native you know like born in America [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► people of Japanese descent came to his [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► aid against their neighbors and so this [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► is cited as like a little-known incident [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► but that was in all the memos that went [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► to Washington were like what you know [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► the Japanese in San Francisco if there's [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► an invasion [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► can we can we trust them over this is [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► turning into a happy Christmas story cuz [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► cuz its sense up until about 90 seconds [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► ago you really had me I thought I [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► thought I thought what was gonna happen [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► was he with the land you would get out [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► he does he realize you just see the star [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► in the sky [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► well that's not over simplified he he [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► would crash land lightly and think okay [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► I need to repair my plane but for now [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► i'm gonna dress up as a Dickensian [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► character haha and fit in and and while [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► he was waiting for his part to arrive [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► from from Tokyo that he would learn the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► true meaning of Christmas when that he [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► would be embraced and will be kinda like [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► the Grinch meets tora tora tora there is [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► there actually is a there is there there [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► is a version of that story coming out of [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the end of this story so get and tour [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► actually figures into it could be three [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► hours look because as I was researching [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► this story and and feeling like wow this [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► complicates man [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► others for me now this is this [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► complicates this story that we are we've [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► been telling ourselves for the last 70 [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► years which was that the I mean [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► obviously the internment camps were an [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► abomination but this is a this is an [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► incident that actually happened and and [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► and that the aid and succour that these [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► that the three local Japanese provided [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► this 0 pilot was not incidental like [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► they actually took up arms against their [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► neighbors and you know this was this was [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► disaffected well anyway so as in the [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► course of reach further researching this [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► story to make sure that it's not just [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► some but it's not some propagandized [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► revisionism I learned that the pilot who [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► led the assault on pearl harbor the the [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► the lead guy in the air [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► he also he and he is the man who [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► actually said tora tora tora into his [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► microphone [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► he's the heat that's it that's his quote [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► and I forget his name he went on to be [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► in the Battle of Midway he was he fought [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► in Burma he became like he was a he was [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► a hero in Japan and after the war as the [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► American government was prosecuting [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► Japanese a higher ups for war crimes [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► this pilot took offense at the idea [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► because he said you know this is this is [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► common in war and surely the Americans [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► tortured all their Japanese captives [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► just as we tortured our American [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► captives and so he said about after the [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► war to go interview all of the Japanese [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► prisoners of war as they were [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► repatriated from and as he did he found [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► them all [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► he he realized that their reports were [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that in fact know they had not been [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► tortured they had been treated with [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► tremendous kindness by their captors and [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► fed and and treated as you know as as [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► well as American soldiers were being [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► treated [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► except they were you know obviously they [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► were in prison camps but they weren't [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► tortured they weren't starved they [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► weren't in that Eric marched they [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► weren't death marched and this this [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► pilots after war experiences worse it [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► was such a it was so alien to his notion [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► of the import the central importance of [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► revenge as like the court one of his [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► core beliefs like vengeance is how you [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► get justice and if someone murders your [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► family you you have a a bond of [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► vengeance with them and until you [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► achieve that vengeance you your [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► ancestors can't rest or whatever and he [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► was contrasting that with the what he [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► what he took to be the overtly christian [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► idea of forgive your enemy [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► and love your love your enemy and hit [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► the experience was so profound that he [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► became an evangelical Christian haha and [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► spent the rest of his life traveling the [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► world this is the guy who spearheaded [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► the Pearl Harbor attack spent the rest [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► of his life traveling the world speaking [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► as a you know like as a pretty powerful [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► public speaker like yes i bombed Pearl [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► Harbor and now i am now i have learned [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► to turn the other cheek and love my [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► enemy so yeah it's a Christmas miracle [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► it was a Christmas miracle and it all [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► and december 70 is just a couple of [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► weeks before Christmas [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► maybe that's the Christmas story I maybe [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► that's the version of Christmas I need [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► to introduce to my daughter [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► we don't it's not really a Jesus story [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► it's more about this Japanese zero pilot [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► right now I don't know [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► well you can you can lead a huge [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► surprise invasion and a piece and then [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► get away with it by by changing [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► religions it's certainly an option [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► interesting interesting story though [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► interesting conversations very very very [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► interesting indeed [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► and that is and i think my instinct as [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► we have covered that many times [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► ok my instincts for vengeance but what i [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► want i aspire to have my instinct beat [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► toward love and anyway this time of year [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► was always the one time of year when I [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► would really make a concerted effort to [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► like and I think it's true for a lot of [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► us get in the spirit of the season and [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► get you know get some get some love flow [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► and I don't know how to integrate that [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► this is the problem with not believing [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► in ghosts but being scared of ghosts [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► how do you integrate this this message [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► of you know like altruism and also [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► connection with a higher power and tree [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► worship at like how do you how do you [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► find a way to all of that outside of [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► institutional religious practice I don't [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► think it's that hard [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► I mean it's me again these are all [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► things that are only problematic if you [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► think it all needs to make sense [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► me and I think I mean you know who cares [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► what anybody else wants to do for [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► Christmas I mean you should do what [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► makes your relatives happy or whatever i [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► guess not that I think okay so here's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► one thing with this amount obsess about [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► Christmas but the the i think that the [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► people who act as though this has always [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► been a solemn event about celebrating [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► the birth of the Savior of the Christian [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► you know the Christian Savior Jesus baby [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► yeah but I mean like lawyers ok so when [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► you get to the crux of what people what [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► it what is the stick everybody has up [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► there but about Christmas and they're [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► not being honored correctly at the heart [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► of it it seems like what they're saying [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► is you guys keep forgetting the [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► Christmas is really all about [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► celebrating the birth of Jesus who will [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► eventually a few years become the savior [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► of humanity and he was actually born in [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► September probably well but it's been in [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► that framework I think what they're [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► trying to say is those people are [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► understandably I mean if that's what [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► they believe I get that um the problem [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► is i think that his store history is not [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► in their favor but i think i think i [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► think one reason people are nominally in [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► a have yours for nominally been had the [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► panties and a lot about christmas [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► because it was excellent cover to drink [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► and and if they didn't have that [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► supernal buy-in then they would just [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► seem like a bunch of drunks but I mean [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► you look at what what is Christmas been [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► for like 200 years in the West it's been [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► about parties really certainly has been [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► about its been to a certain extent has [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► been about charity and stuff like that [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► but I [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► in it the the birth of the Christian [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► Savior has not been at the center of [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► Christmas for over a century and to act [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► any differently is just not sensible or [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► historically accurate there's always [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► been people who are very loud about [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► being mad that it's not more that way [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► but I don't think that's the way most [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► people do it sure there's tons of Jesus [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► that Jesus everywhere but but but look [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► what he was you no actually you know I'm [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► just saying passing my wife has a really [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► wackadoodle name for the manger scene [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► i've never heard she calls it a crash [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► yeah that's the name for I've never [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► heard that I was totally Christian I've [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► never heard that crash [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► yeah i thought that was the guy at the [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► compound no no not correct crash [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► yeah I ever heard it's a woman in our [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► home SS Christians it's a thing that it [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► the the crash became one of the bones of [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► contention in the last 20 years because [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► it used to be that you would have a [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► crash in front of every small town City [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► Hall i should do and then people were [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► mad because it was government property [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► in government [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► it was you know government-sponsored [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► crash and I have actually seen her you [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► in small towns where instead of a very [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► abstract instead of taking away abstract [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► like this i have i've seen somewhere [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► where different characters have been [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► added to try and take away the sting [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► I'm sorry LIC well I haven't seen that [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► like what so you know your bond it's [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► like a Wookiee there [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► mm then you know Marilyn Monroe is there [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► pretty soon it's like out there [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► what's going on I don't know what's [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► going on here does he'll everyone's [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► we're like I think they're trying to [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► like get it in like under the radar [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► screen where it used to be when I was a [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► kid you would have literal people [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► sitting in a tableau with an angelic you [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► know usually fake baby sitting there [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► baby couldn't do that kind of work you [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► have to use twins right it would be like [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► yeah you know in Hollywood but but no it [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► became more and more abstract until it [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► was creepy like was just like you know [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► just completely iconic but it was just [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► like 18 bowling pins all arranged [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► exactly in a rush of the box and a camel [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► but I don't know this gyre I've read a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► story of the day of [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► where was I think was Oklahoma that [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► successfully basically with private [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► funding had allowed a 10 commandments [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► did you read about this attend [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► Commandments to be put all right in the [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► center of the court or the Statehouse [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► right yeah and you hear one single time [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► no Satanists oh they do this later and [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► Commandments this ad and they're going [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► to race twice as much money 20,000 [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► instead of ten thousand dollars to put [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► up their own thing to to the memory of [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► the memory to the historical and [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► literary Satan [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► oh sure not they're not talking about [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► the fallen angel that used to sit at the [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► right hand of God they are talking about [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► the literary Satan yeah yeah yeah I [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► don't think I guess they could get a guy [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► in a red suit with a pitchfork I don't [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► know I i I just I you know I know you're [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► a thinker and you think and I think even [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► just an Oklahoma big-time well and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that's that turns out that's the irony [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► is that in trying to railroad that [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► through this kind of snickering haha and [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► you know now we really got him way [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► they've opened the door to all this [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► other stuff but i don't i don't know i [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► mean i think it's together for this so [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► two quick things in passing at first was [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► always well in my late later adult years [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► I've always thought it's kind of strange [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► that we have this incredibly solemn [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► occasion in the dead of winter to [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► celebrate the birth of Jesus and then [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► you've got you got the Easter Bunny and [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► eggs and the Virgin see of of spring to [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► celebrate his truly truly horrible [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► crucifixion death right but he comes [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► back that's true yeah and the thing [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► about hit the thing about his a perfect [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► Brian the dog to on the Family Guy show [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► you anything about his birth of course [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► is that it is the shortest day of the [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► year and then the day start getting [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► longer like he is born and also the the [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► year is born we are like born again in [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► the Sun Sun is back coming slowly [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► that's a good point it's a baby son on [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► december twenty fifth and then the Sun [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► is going to grow to become the adult son [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► of summer so it's all very like it's all [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► very tree forests chapel people [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► it's very tree people for jobs people [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► but i love this guy it's and and then of [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► course in spring that's when you really [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► want to [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► that's when you want to die die a [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► gruesome and disfiguring death in the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► Sun and then then be reborn three days [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► later [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► yeah i mean that's just it's i don't [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► even have to explain what that's a [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► metaphor [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► okay how about this tell me if you're on [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► board with this part to you think about [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► sitting around in that darkroom like you [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► know feeling like an idiot going like [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► wherewhere is there i'm opening my I'm [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► opening myself up to the idea that [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► there's this bigger thing that I should [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► be a better person and you open up and [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► there's all that stuff I think a huge [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► part of Christmas is feeling like shit i [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► think i think what we must accept and [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► not just purely from strictly from like [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► a aid if you like same mental health [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► standpoint but i think we also need to [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► realize there's something inherently [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► extremely sad about Christmas there's [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► something very there's so much nostalgia [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► that people would you think about who's [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► dead and not there anymore i think [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► that's that's what people don't [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► acknowledge that's what's ironic to me [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► in some ways it's like okay well you [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► know believe what you want to believe if [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► you want to go get deals on amazon deals [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► on amazon whatever black friday whatever [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► it is you want to do like investor thing [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► let that be your thing christmas lights [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► whatever that is but also let's [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► acknowledge that it's a very depressing [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► time of year for a lot of people [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► yeah and and I think that's what gets [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► lost to me that's the healthy part is [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► not that I can't get my get my college [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► educated brain around the idea of you [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► know the the the wizard in the sky [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► sending his son down to save us then die [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► it's it's much more like I think it's a [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► bummer that we don't acknowledge hell [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► morose and well yes mawkish but also [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► just just depressing Christmases it's [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► really depressing you'll never do it [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► your kid my kid will never be happy [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► enough at what we bought her as a gift [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► she'll never be into these things as [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► much as would make me happy i would love [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► for more of my family who's dead to be [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► around to see this and I think that's [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► what people don't aren't comfortable [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► acknowledging they feel like they should [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► be all up and Pepe and wearing a silly [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► sweater and feeling great all the time [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► when I think most of us are stressed out [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► and freaky and depressed a lot of the [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► time I mean I'm not a depressive person [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► but it does make me very [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► it's not solemn what's the word [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► reflective about like what I've lost in [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► life following melancholy yeah like the [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► kind of reflect on what I've lost and [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► we'll never get back Merry Christmas [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► that's what I think about and i think i [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► think most people are uncomfortable [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► admitting that because I feel like [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► they're being a holiday karma sock I i [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► think that one of the one of the themes [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► though the running themes in my life had [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► I got a car here is that what a growing [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► up in Alaska there is always a there's [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► always somebody who is more of an [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► outdoorsman then you write and a greater [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► Yeti theory there is there there is [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► always somebody who is like who has [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► slept outside more nights and that is a [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► that is a a hierarchy that goes all the [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► way up to the literal Grizzly Adams 'as [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► who make a living [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► trapping animals in the winter with [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► homemade snares and so all you have to [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► do is spend one night outside in the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► dead of winter in Alaska to realize that [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► you that that living in the city living [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► in your house you are not living the [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► same life at all as someone who is [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► living on the on the ragged edge of [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► survival [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► oh yeah and although although you prefer [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► the comfort the fact is that in those [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► moments when you are outside at night in [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► the wilderness in the winter there is a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► solemnity to life that that we do that [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► we take great pains to eliminate you [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► know we build we build houses we heat [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► them from inside we keep we leave the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► lights on all night and all of that is [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► to banish this this thing that we've [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► talked about you and I many many times [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► this feeling that the that the stars are [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► ambivalent to you the feeling that [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► you're going to fall off the earth [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► the feeling that you know and and it [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► isn't just it isn't just a feeling of [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► profound aloneness it is like the it is [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► the core feeling of profundity at its [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► heart you know and these guys who are [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► living out in the wilderness they are in [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► touch with the the immensity and the the [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► immensity of creation but also the [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► enormity of it and being exposed to it [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► as much as I have which is not that much [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► being a you know an Alaskan and sort of [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► like dragged out into the wilderness and [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► then left standing rooted in spot [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► looking up at the Milky Way and feeling [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► like oh fuck like not only is the Milky [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► Way there but it's also 40 below zero [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► and right though and the woods are full [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► of predators and uh and my friends have [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► left me like I am I am so out of the out [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► of the realm of like black friday right [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► now and into a very different kind of [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► black friday a black ass and so so [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► that's and laminated he is a thing that [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► I want to impart not just too much to [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► people who are close to me but i want to [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► share that with everybody I meet because [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► I feel like most of us who live in the [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► live in the present world are all are [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► almost completely divorced from it and a [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► lot of people have never experienced it [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► or or they have experienced it in the it [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► that one time somebody drove the car up [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► a dirt road and turn the lights off and [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► they all got out of the car looked at [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► the stars for a minute it's kind of [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► bleakness tourism the right or or you're [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► just like Oh fine and and it's it's even [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► more scary and awesome because you have [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► no context for it and then you're like [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► get back in the car turn the heater on [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► and turn the fucking radio on and get me [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► back to the work to the the world that I [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► understand which is one with a roof on [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► and so that's that celebrity whatever [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► that is that connection with that [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► feeling of smallness and the feeling of [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► like the yawn in truth that we live on a [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► ball and we don't know why and and to [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► not think about that every day is is [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► just a factor of having drowned that out [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► with a lot of high pitch noise you know [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► that that 200 years ago we would have [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► been confronted with it every day [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► because we would have been out plowing [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► at or if we wanted to go somewhere after [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► dark we would there you know you can [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► hear the wolves at the edge of town and [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► now we have grounded out but we've [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► grounded out almost entirely with static [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► and 22 miss it to miss out on it is to [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► miss out on that the thing about [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► something very very core about something [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► as real as as can be that maybe isn't [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► even there in the summer or is there in [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► a different way in the summer since this [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► is definitely much harder to get access [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► to and and in winter you can leave your [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► you can leave your like we have a [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► solution of screens and our windows in [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► San Francisco you just open up your [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► windows you know whenever you feel like [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► it and stuff can come in but that sense [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► of like it mean in a way to use that [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► word again you're talking about a kind [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► of abstraction where we get more and [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► more layers of comfort and security that [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► can make us that on the one hand make us [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► feel safe and secure and warm and all [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► those things but also are meant to make [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► us feel like we'll never have that [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► probation and will never and [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► consequently i think that's kind of what [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► you're saying that we'll never have to [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► confront that existential void will let [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► alone the fact that you know it's like [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► the difference between you know [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► sprinting kind of like playing around in [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► a little tidal pool versus understanding [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► like what a wave can do to you [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► like that's like that you know the kind [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► of like that's the cold is like water in [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that sense it's like you don't realize [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► like how incredibly harsh the world is [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► natively how harsh our existence [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► ultimately is and so you know if you get [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► enough christmas sweaters eventually you [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► won't have to think about it want to [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► imagine all the the people that we know [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► who our astronomy buff space nerds who [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► interact with space primarily by looking [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► at hubbell photos on the internet or you [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► know a at and how although those Hubble [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► photos and space photos and episode of [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► cosmos are all extraordinary the [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► difference between looking at the most [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► detailed photos you know color-enhanced [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► photograph of distant nebula is compared [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► to standing out on a cold night and [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► peering into a telescope at a blurry [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► picture of satire blurry view of Saturn [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► which is in some ways like pales in [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► comparison but on the other hand if [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► you've ever done if you've ever stood [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► out in the cold shivering looking at [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► Saturn through a telescope you know that [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► it is in a way infinitely more profound [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► than looking at these pictures of deep [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► space in on a computer because you [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► you're actually conscious of the [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► distance and your conscious of the goal [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► of the void and of the fact that it's [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► real it's not a special effect it's not [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► a game i can't look up into the night [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► sky without feeling [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► terror i guess and it's not a it's not a [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► terror that's uncomfortable it's like a [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► it's like a terror in it in a Greek [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► sense of like why do we not all feel [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► terror all the time why why shouldn't we [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► we should be terrified we live on a [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► freaking ball and that should be a lot [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► scarier [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► I feel like and I feel like it was scary [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► it was very scary until very recently [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► well you you've got in in describing [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► that you've got a lot of the core [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► realization that people get in a [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► religious setting without the supernal [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► influence [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► yeah you got that sense of immensity the [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► the god that's bigger than god there's [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► something that we can't get a name for [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► this bigger than you know that's be able [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► Cartesian but something that's bigger if [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► it's if we can imagine it that's not the [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► thing it's something bigger than that [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► it's something that has so much in [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► Normandy and and if you don't feel small [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► you're not thinking hard enough so and [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► it's one of the reasons that I couldn't [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► it's one of the reasons that when I when [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► I think to myself I should have been a [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► physicist it was the thing that I wanted [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► to do and what what stopped me was that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► in such in such quick succession it was [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► so easy to get myself into a place where [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► i was asking questions that couldn't be [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► answered and that i had to content [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► myself with discovering answers to [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► questions that were further up the food [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► chain like and I couldn't I couldn't be [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► content seeking seeking something small [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► flagstones I'm [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► but that's really where I you know [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► really where I would I would want to be [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► and it's it's so sad it's so sad to know [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► that we won't know that we cannot know [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► yeah it's such a mean that the [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► melancholy in feeling like there are [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► that we just can't know even the next [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► scale up right now yeah totally [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► the and the more the more you know the [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► more you realize you can't know it's yes [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► what back serious musicians basics like [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► religion for atheists in some ways yeah [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► right but the I don't know I feel I feel [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► I feel like maybe I should just turn on [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► my mp3 player and see if the kings of [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► leon have a new track i thought they had [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► long hair i'm really confused they might [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► have strictly might have cutting saw [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► them on the internet live and I think [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► they must have I think they must have [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► lost their hair at JFK or something they [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► they they were very short [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► I you know I had longer a couple years [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► ago and then I I cut it because it [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► seemed like the only thing i was i'm [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► supposed to do that day huh [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► like how was I supposed to do alright [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► cut off this hair and now I feel like oh [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► what a dummy i would have I could have [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► four feet of hair right now year long [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► hair with all due respect to to a man [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that I really respect just sartorially [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► really in every way it was creepy your [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► hair creepy creepy creepy is creepy the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► word you want to use I crazier like cool [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► features like you were you looking for [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah probably cool that's probably [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► you know 61 creepier the other three [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► people on me creepy and well it was the [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► two thoughts John yeah okay the missing [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► tooth is creating you know it'sit's you [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► know if you got the baking soda and you [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► got the vinegar and as long as you keep [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► them apart you don't have a volcano but [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► you man that combination that picture of [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► you with with my daughter is still one [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► of my favorite things because in any [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► kind of part in the middle in a real [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► real Jesus kind of way to up [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► you get a lot of hair you you end up it [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► parts itself in the middle that's the [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► thing it is that right yeah because of [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► the weight [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► yeah you can you can try and like [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► partied different places but eventually [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► it's gonna just it's gonna it's gonna [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► fall into that Roseanne Roseannadanna [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► oh I you know I've been five been [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► playing at having slightly longer hair [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► and its really not working out [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► really yeah i mean it just does not look [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► good on a man my age and I'm long hair [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► not long hair but i couldn't i don't [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► think i could get too long here I just I [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► couldn't take it [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► I'm not kissing your ass when I say that [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► I have never seen you with a hairstyle [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► or a or a version of like scruffy scruff [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► that I didn't think was cool [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► oh God thank you John that means the [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► world to me i I'm my hair is atrocious [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► sometimes your hair is short sometimes [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► it's long sometimes it's must be [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► sometimes it's much easier I guess we [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► talking like a serious communication [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► problems with my operator and i've got i [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► needed i need to look I hate to say it I [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► i have to go take a look at some other [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► options your your opera you mean the man [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► who sits in a little chair and drives [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► the Merlin from inside I can talk about [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► Doctor Who your other side now though [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► the the lady who who cuts my hair [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► oh and that's $12 haircut and believe me [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► before she does not owe me a nickel it's [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► anyway it's I should do something about [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► let's see this is the beauty of you you [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► know being a professional entertainer is [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► you can do things like that and it'll be [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► entertaining to people if you get along [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah well and the thing about long [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► hair on a man my size is it instantly [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► conjures arrest Putin like severity I [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► think that's your personality [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► oh really no I mean on a bad way but [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► you're here be right [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► no no I mean I think it's very [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► flattering i think you have a very [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► intimidating presence to begin with but [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► when you have a deliberately missing [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► tooth you know and like shoulder-length [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► hair [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► yeah yeah i think people start really [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► imagine themselves in a garbage bag you [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► know when they see that coming [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► yeah although I wouldn't waste a garbage [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► bag on most people know right yeah I [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► feel like what the garbage bag is just [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► something that the raccoons are going to [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► have to tear through it might as well [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► just save everybody the pollution and [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► just just put the body in a river [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► oh that's what Mesa environmental recipe [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► eaten up [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► yeah i-i've been thinking a lot about [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► the life of an entertainer lately [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► because unfortunately or rather [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► fortunately I have a lot of big plans [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► now I'm feeling better and I'm feeling [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► like like engaging but as you know [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► feeling like engaging and engaging em [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► are uh are different and engaging even [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► engagement is a process that it's a it's [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► an everyday process i wake up yesterday [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► and I engage and then I wake up today [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► and I forget to you nothing quite as [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► engag and then it's like oh fuck i have [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► to do this every day I talking about [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► like like like pulling your you like one [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► reason our listeners mean I know we [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► haven't had a recording a while is [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► partly because you've been even [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► traveling a lot [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► I've been working well yeah we're [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► traveling for traveling for like you're [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► always working in some way John Thank [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► You Merlin I think you're out there [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► playing on the field even if there's no [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► crop really well with what the show up [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► every day right idea of shots i shall [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► show up one of the things our listeners [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► should be made aware of is that you and [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► I are going to do a live version of [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► rather come let me take a minute a [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► little bit by the sponsor today haha [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► yeah we're gonna do that now [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► di Denton Cisco's sketchfest hm we are [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► going to be underpaid and over used at [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► sketchfest well that's just the nature [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of the festival of all festivals until [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► you reach a certain point where you are [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► overpaid and under you as my carne [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► carnies really just do it for the love [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► of the craft that's why they think well [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► they loved the game didn't you have [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► those I mean I this is more [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► kind of breaking the 56 wall here but [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► when is that should tell people about [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► though it's at the end of january so [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► we're doing two shows the 30th and 31st [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► in San Francisco live but it has it is [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► the idea of of agreeing to do those [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► shows has in me ignited a feeling that [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► you know and I in you and I have talked [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► about it a feeling that we should we [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► should start to think about live [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► performance as one of the things that we [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► yeah which is we should we should do the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► show we should just show live in [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► different locations like a crazy night i [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► agree i agree i I'd like to pre-announce [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► but i think that's a very good idea i [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► think this is a great way to kick-off RR [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► jubilee year 2014 it's going to be here [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► but this has this has been suggested to [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► me that i should do a regular show [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► because because playing these long [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► winters reunion shows has reminded me [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► that I am an electric guitar player and [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► for the last few years i've been getting [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► by [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► strumming my acoustic guitar and singing [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► which is the thing I enjoy but i am an [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► electric guitar player especially when [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► you say it that way I play the electric [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► guitar do you play the guitar [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► electrically is what you do likely shit [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► out of the LA yes and the thing about [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► having a rock band is it's very [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► expensive to to house and feed all these [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► bunya and yet you have to keep you have [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► to feed them you have to give them a [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► place to sleep you get it they have to [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► have their medicine after their medicine [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► you have to talk nicely to them at a [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► certain point every day to remind them [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► that you like them and care about them [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► and have to live with the constant [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► expectation of apologies [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► yeah you have to then sometimes somebody [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► asked to go to the bathroom and [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► everybody else doesn't have to go to the [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► bathroom but we're going to tell me [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► can't go to the bathroom [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► no you have to pull over but all of that [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► is necessary if you want to play the [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► shit out of the electric guitar in front [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► of people because nobody wants to see [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► you do that in front of a drum machine [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► anyway so i'm trying to think of like [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► okay here here we are it's brand new [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► year we're starting a new year this is [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► gonna be do believe year want to start [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► getting out there want to start [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► performing and uh and then that just [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► brings the whole it's just the whole [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► glacier of performance starts calving [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► off into the Bristol Bay of my all we [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► had a little moment there [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► wow where's my orange bell somebody [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► stole my orange bell she could traveling [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► and working has been in my house [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► um but you know if you do it enough and [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► you get paid for it is it's like a job [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► that the pain in the ass part is we're [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► in my experience the pain in the ass [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► part is like having to go somewhere for [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► like a day [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► yeah well I see I'm trying to I'm trying [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► to I'm trying to for this is the hard [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► part trying to lower my expectations [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► about money and return to a time when [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► what I believed in was art and I [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► remember many many long long passionate [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► conversations with people in cafes / [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► export a over pack of export a [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► cigarettes and forty cups of coffee [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► where we were talking about art and we [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► meant it [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► it was serious business and somewhere [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► along the line there [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► the word art got quotation marks around [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► it because it was unseemly to talk about [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► art if you were in the pop vernacular [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► and then quotation marks got put around [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► everything for many years they're cooked [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► a trick and and now i'm trying to clear [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► away this like snow storm of quotation [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► marks and find whatever is there and [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► whatever is behind this is blizzard and [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► I want to you know like I want to care [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► about I want to care about art and [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► entertainment and figure once again as i [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► used to figure that that that that not [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► only will the money follow but even [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► appreciation will follow people don't [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► appreciate it at first some people do [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► well I i think i actually reality so so [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► you're not going to get you know can be [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► like Santana just showing up and doing [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► solos for your electric guitar playing [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► what what's your what's your plan for [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► doing a regular show is like what I was [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► like what the guy that plays all the [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► cattle are go that kind of thing you're [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► going to do a good job Brian thing is [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► that what you do is you host with your [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► host an event school that's I don't [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► think that doesn't have these huge doing [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► Allentown and we're a little and John [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► bryantown harmoniously where [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► I that this is the thing I don't know [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► that so there's a venue here in Seattle [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► called the rendezvous which is a very [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► small room it's probably it's it was [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► built originally as a screening room [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► because Seattle was a town where [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► Hollywood movies in the twenties and [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► thirties they would screen those movies [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► here in Seattle before they went into [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► wide release and so Seattle had a whole [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► little constellation of tiny theaters [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► clover built just to show Errol Flynn [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► movies to a select crowd and judging on [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► there you know based on their reaction [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► then they would it do another editor [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► whatever so they're always like a light [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► on that test really like beta testers [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► for airflow movies right and so they're [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► there used to be a whole slew of these [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► little like 5280 capacity theaters that [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► were done in high egyptian-style and [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► most of them are gone but the this one [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► remains called the jewel box theater at [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► the rendezvous it's a tiny little [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► roommates where my music career got [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► started we you know my first shows were [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► all in this room because the way you [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► would book it is you would walk into the [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► bar and there'd be like four sailors and [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► like to 60-year old floozies also you [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► know sitting at the bar one guy would be [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► smoking because at the time wait saw it [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► was absolutely topics bond and you would [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► walk in and there was a book on a on a [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► lectern and you would flip the book to [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► likes an open date and you just write [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► your name on and that was how you book [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► to show in this bar like we're playing [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► here on Tuesday and play like the [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► bartender wouldn't even not at you they [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► just and then you would show up you [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► would have to collect the money you have [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► to have somebody to stand at the door [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► collecting money and then you play the [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► show and then you the bar didn't they [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► didn't ask for a cut or whatever they [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► just figured that all of the all of the [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► the gimlets they were serving what was [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► more than enough pay and [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► is that really something from another [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► century it was a great it was a great [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► deal and a wonderful thing for the town [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► and I think even now they fixed up the [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► jewel box a little bit but I think even [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► now it's not that hard to just walk in [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► and say like I'm playing here but I've [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► been thinking I should do a show there [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► once a week but I don't know what it [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► would be Merlin I honestly don't know [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► what kind of show to do should i should [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► i rant for an hour and then first I ran [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► for 15 minutes and then play the [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► electric guitar for an hour which is the [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► ledges regroup should i should i should [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► i ran for 20 minutes play for 20 minutes [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► ran for 20 more minutes i think this is [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► not complicated i can cut at some point [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► John i would like to have a role in life [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► showing you that things are not as [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► complicated as they sink [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► yeah I think you should go into a show [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► and see how it goes and then try [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► different [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► if that didn't work but a real real real [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► easy one would be just going to do a [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► show and see how it goes [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► I told you off the record will cut this [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► out not really is that I would be fine [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► for us to alternate between our two [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► cities every month San Francisco and [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► Seattle yeah actually at a similar-sized [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► together I think it's because doing that [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► just sighed a sigh of like seven tonight [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► I don't like to announce things but [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► nobody but in your case I mean this is [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► part of your art where you're not going [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► to put quotation marks around it right [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► now is that you just just go and do it [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► just going to see what happens i mean [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► you you can do some storytelling you can [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► do some songs stuff you know it's a part [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► of it is it like there's such a in my [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► head anyway and i suspect him in a lot [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► of people of a similar age it's your [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► idea of like what a rock and roll show [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► is which is it's a place where you go [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► and like 225 bands play it starts late [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► it's really loud it's rock and roll show [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► and the thing is it doesn't need to be [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► just that or it doesn't need to be some [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► kind of ironic bow tie event like there [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► could be something in between and that [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► you know it gets its own definition [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► based on who's doing the show and who [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► starts coming to it a lot [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► that's you know what I mean it's just [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► there's i think if you if the [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► expectations are that low there is known [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► which is good [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► the expectation should be low there [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► shouldn't be any any thought that it's [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► going to be you know sword swallowers [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► and shit but like you know you can you [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► could go and do some new songs do some [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► storytelling have a guest you could you [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► could interview someone you there are [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► various things that you can do it could [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► be John rock show [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► yeah i was thinking about calling it [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► John Rodricks rendezvous is it [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► rendezvous Rondo's moods [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► ok because you keep announcing it [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► rendezvous and I like the idea that that [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► it's like an old whore named him named [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► Rhonda rendezvous individual yeah [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► exactly it's all rendezvous no [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► rendezvous [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► well I i feel like the word rendezvous [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► is a is a is a word with a great it has [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► a great pedigree in Alaska because we [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► have the fur around whom every winter [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► where all the fur trappers come to town [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► and well they used to come to town and [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► sell their first [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► sounds like a dragon that it actually [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► there is a great component have to come [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► to the fur on de foot there's a think [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► that you have a thing called the miners [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► and trappers ball which is I swear to [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► you that absolute highlight of the [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► Alaska social year they bring their [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► homemade snares well if you can get a [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► ticket to the minor and trappers ball [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► now i'll put in with you it's like a [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► heavy ticket you can't get good it right [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► now I'm that the miners trapped these [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► like serious like guys that they look [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► like [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► Nanook of the north or they're wearing [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► the filson jackets like this is hardcore [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► stuff [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► well but it's become a socialite event [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► like all of the all about heavy hitters [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► up there all go in there big wolf [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► jackets like you're supposed to wear [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► your your full on Alaska finery but [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► they're all in tuxedos there just in [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► friend forever [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► that's the wolf text accepted as a wolf [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► tux but uh but the other it's a big deal [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► up there and but for rendezvous has [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► become a huge festival in Alaska they [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► have they build up I ice castle they [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► used to they used to have this amazing [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► thing which was they would build they [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► would build big snow berms in the [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► streets downtown and they would have [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► vintage car races on ice through the [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► center of town and the way they kept the [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► cars from crashing into buildings they [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► just built snow berms up the side of the [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► buildings start full it was really it [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► was pretty amazing i don't know what [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► they do that anymore about john de vous [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► a John David too clever by half [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► look cute yeah I feel like a little too [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► you know that might that might be a [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► something that fans say I go to the John [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► de vous [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► oh that's good yeah but i would have to [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► keep it straight [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► yeah i would have to be like John [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► Roberts round of it like that even a [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► wolf tuxedo though you know [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► oh this is so infuriating to me a really [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► good friend of mine a childhood friend [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► of mine her father had a wolf a full-on [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► like knee-length wolf jacket I i have no [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► context for what wolf looks like when [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► it's made into a wearable Pelt is it [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► like is it like a law is it looks like [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► dogs but dogs are facing dog let's talk [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► sure absolutely no offense dr. coach [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► it's a very full and in most cases kind [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► of gray white the marks for people are [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► betting it up it's a bit of much thicker [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► Pelt than a dog sure um yeah but it's a [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► dog [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► basically it's a dog coat a full-length [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► dog coat with the empty suite [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► he had a full-length will wolf code and [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► it was a vintage coat he had he bought [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► it in the seventies and I think he [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► bought it he bought it from David Green [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► master for error and it was already an [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► old coat anyway so he's got this coat [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► and I was like uh you know I had an [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► injury I am I on this code for many [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► years [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► sure who wouldn't and I talked to my [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► friend and she's like oh my dad is [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► selling his wolf coat and I said he's [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► what [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► like am I not like a son to him and so I [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► so I contacted I'm like so the wolf coat [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► like let's wrap and here's what he says [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► you couldn't afford it who's strong [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► thing and I was like I beg your pardon [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► and then he puts on ebay and he was [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► right i wish i could not have afforded [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► it was it over a thousand dollars it was [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► apparently a full-length wolf vintage [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► wolf parka is a is an item of some [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► of some prices goodness i just googled [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► it are they all this peppy they're very [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► well-seasoned so this one was on [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► Alaska's not made from a single wolf no [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► no a lot of wolves have to have to die [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► to make the coat [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► yes a lot of wolves had to be snared in [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► the snow and gradually chew on their [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► paws until they died to make a coat that [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► beautiful my goodness there's a lot of [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► wolves in this code looks like yeah and [TS]

01:06:33 ◼   ► there and so it's an extraordinary [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► garment it is not a thing that you're [TS]

01:06:36 ◼   ► gonna wear around your gonna wear it [TS]

01:06:40 ◼   ► when you wear the wolf code you are [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► communicating to everybody that you are [TS]

01:06:45 ◼   ► fucking lunatic and that seems like it'd [TS]

01:06:50 ◼   ► be kinda like wearing a kilt like I've [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► always thought that did to where the [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► utility belt you must primarily step 0 [TS]

01:06:57 ◼   ► you must be the person who enjoys [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► talking about wearing a utility which in [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► my experience hundred percent Venn [TS]

01:07:02 ◼   ► diagram overflow especially if you wear [TS]

01:07:04 ◼   ► a wolf coat you would be pretty into [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► talking about your wolf coat [TS]

01:07:07 ◼   ► well yeah unless unless you were also [TS]

01:07:10 ◼   ► like swinging a baton or whatever like [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► the wolf coat is either like come talk [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► to me about my wool coat example or [TS]

01:07:17 ◼   ► drill team or get the fuck out of my way [TS]

01:07:19 ◼   ► right now all I like a big stick [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah I'm talking about like like [TS]

01:07:23 ◼   ► you you're you're basically carrying a [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► cattle prod or whatever like a wolf code [TS]

01:07:28 ◼   ► is not even a thing that you would like [TS]

01:07:29 ◼   ► get in and out of a car wearing you just [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► show up in the wolf code nobody knows [TS]

01:07:33 ◼   ► how you got there when you leave at the [TS]

01:07:36 ◼   ► end of the night you disappeared into [TS]

01:07:37 ◼   ► the mist is kind of cool if you were [TS]

01:07:38 ◼   ► pulled along on some kind of up a [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► carriage by fearful wolves [TS]

01:07:44 ◼   ► oh yeah or you had some years the [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► bottoms of your shoes were like little [TS]

01:07:48 ◼   ► wax snowboards and you just walked out [TS]

01:07:51 ◼   ► and just think it sounds like it sounds [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► like a DC villain it sounds like a [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► Batman villain you know where you're [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► basically like this like a fetishist [TS]

01:07:58 ◼   ► right like like Batman has bat [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► everything you know I'm saying that he's [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► got ? so you can be like wolfman yeah [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► you have two wolves party like right in [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► front of the club [TS]

01:08:08 ◼   ► there's your shoes or snowboard here you [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► know out you're not going on a woman [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► what you got hold of the reins and I [TS]

01:08:14 ◼   ► just start pulling you down the street [TS]

01:08:15 ◼   ► and you're just use some respect [TS]

01:08:17 ◼   ► yeah oh my goodness and in to give a [TS]

01:08:20 ◼   ► sense of like what if what it really [TS]

01:08:22 ◼   ► finally went for I I these options hard [TS]

01:08:24 ◼   ► to tell so it's definitely over a [TS]

01:08:25 ◼   ► thousand you think it's this one this [TS]

01:08:28 ◼   ► one was that was a primo wolf coat and I [TS]

01:08:32 ◼   ► mean honestly I have to admit that I [TS]

01:08:35 ◼   ► would be I would be hard-pressed to [TS]

01:08:37 ◼   ► cabin occasion to wear it and I would be [TS]

01:08:39 ◼   ► a little ashamed to wear but the idea [TS]

01:08:42 ◼   ► that this will coat which had been in my [TS]

01:08:44 ◼   ► basically in my extended family would go [TS]

01:08:46 ◼   ► to some stranger so nice to be asked [TS]

01:08:49 ◼   ► yeah some person in Chicago who's left [TS]

01:08:51 ◼   ► I'm gonna werewolf code and musk paul [TS]

01:08:54 ◼   ► allen yeah some some jagoff if I was a [TS]

01:08:58 ◼   ► billionaire entrepreneur i would i would [TS]

01:09:00 ◼   ► probably have a collection of a very [TS]

01:09:03 ◼   ► overpriced embarrassing silly things [TS]

01:09:05 ◼   ► that I didn't tell anybody about I could [TS]

01:09:07 ◼   ► see having like a whole vault somewhere [TS]

01:09:09 ◼   ► just just just full of exotic animal [TS]

01:09:12 ◼   ► pelts [TS]

01:09:13 ◼   ► well you know the the I hate to say this [TS]

01:09:16 ◼   ► I really do [TS]

01:09:17 ◼   ► I'm ashamed of myself for saying this [TS]

01:09:18 ◼   ► right now but the mega millions lotto [TS]

01:09:23 ◼   ► Merlin is up to 550 million dollars [TS]

01:09:26 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and i went to the gas [TS]

01:09:29 ◼   ► station [TS]

01:09:30 ◼   ► I was driving in my car and I was like [TS]

01:09:33 ◼   ► the lotto is 550 was in Florida but it's [TS]

01:09:36 ◼   ► all its throughout the country now [TS]

01:09:38 ◼   ► oh you can just anywhere you can just go [TS]

01:09:39 ◼   ► buy one of those tickets yeah it's just [TS]

01:09:41 ◼   ► that most of the winners are in florida [TS]

01:09:42 ◼   ► well as losers because an overwhelming [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► number of people who buy lottery tickets [TS]

01:09:47 ◼   ► living room floor difference up but I so [TS]

01:09:50 ◼   ► several years ago I had a thing where [TS]

01:09:51 ◼   ► when when the lottery would get above [TS]

01:09:53 ◼   ► 300 million i would say you know I don't [TS]

01:09:57 ◼   ► play the lottery but three let's say 300 [TS]

01:10:00 ◼   ► million is my thresholds where if it's [TS]

01:10:03 ◼   ► above 300 million i'm gonna buy a [TS]

01:10:04 ◼   ► lottery ticket just because that is [TS]

01:10:08 ◼   ► crazy money that is hilarious money and [TS]

01:10:11 ◼   ► to win it would just be fucking [TS]

01:10:14 ◼   ► hilarious like it might well be you [TS]

01:10:18 ◼   ► you know if somebody's somebody's gotta [TS]

01:10:19 ◼   ► win it right so anyway it's at 515 i'm [TS]

01:10:22 ◼   ► driving down the street in my car and [TS]

01:10:24 ◼   ► I'm like [TS]

01:10:24 ◼   ► that's like five times what we gave you [TS]

01:10:26 ◼   ► the contract isn't it it's that I is in [TS]

01:10:28 ◼   ► its in its unfathomable bottom money it [TS]

01:10:30 ◼   ► is even after even if you take the cash [TS]