Ep. 94: "Backburners to Infinity"
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hello a John hi Merlin is going pretty
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good pretty good pretty good little bit
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sick it's a little early on come on
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I thought we were over this you know I
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thought so too but i but I you know I
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went to the oregon coast i was walking
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on the beach in the winter in the night
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and the sick mites got me
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it blew up my nose flute the flu seems
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that it's not absolutely that's right
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but it's not so bad I feel like that but
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feel like a kind of threw the worst then
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he sounded pretty good considering
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yeah i woke up it i went to bed at like
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I like four o'clock in the morning and I
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said which is you know which is not
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doing too good but but a but i but I
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felt I felt confident it's a new year
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this this is this four o'clock in the
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morning thing is not going to be the
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regular pattern and I was like listen
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I'm going to sleep 211 and that is going
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to be seven hours of sleep and that is
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fine that's a good that's that's how i'm
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going to run tomorrow and then i woke up
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at seven forty-five in the morning just
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just woke right up bolt upright
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yeah and I was like I walk right up and
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I was and I was humming a song by whole
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day it's were little good and I was like
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ah I hate you forever for mentioning
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that is not in my head to try to go back
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to sleep and I made my bed a lion I
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admit I made my breasts so gross but you
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know busy day busy i got a lot of stuff
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going on doing what he's so busy with
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their people are barely back at work and
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you're out there is this is part of the
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new political regime is this your new
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media the three-point career what's
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going on
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that's my media three-point on queries i
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decided i decided that the the last week
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of last year that i was going to hire
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somebody
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oh you ready for this
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I can't wait to hear so many things you
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could use help with i decided that i
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needed help and that front for so long
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I've been waiting for help to arrive and
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help you know help would come around
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help would come and help would be
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outside the fence and it would be kind
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of looking over the fence and I be
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inside the fence looking koi like a kind
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of Mary Poppins like you said you needed
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it like something which show up with an
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umbrella and will be just what you need
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exactly except Mary Poppins never came
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through the fence and I think I've some
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of it was I never invited her in some of
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it was that it you know I i pulled I
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pulled up the paving-stones who from the
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gate to the porch it because i was going
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to redo it and then I then I didn't
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really do it and then it just became
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muddy bog i sent a message
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yeah it does it does i have black people
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come over and say would you put down
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some bricks or or paving stones or
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something it's just like you you're the
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path from your gate to your house is
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like is like a trip through the Mekong
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Delta maybe you should start by having
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Mary Poppins a stonemason somebody I
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could start and could really just do you
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know step 0 next time that is step serve
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somebody shows up at my house and build
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their own path to my door
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that's not my experience any kind of
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professional help is a little bit like a
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vampire
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I mean it'll it'll be there but you have
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to invite it in the only way you can let
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the vampire aim is to say please come
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into the house
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exactly so so at the end of last year I
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was like you know what I keep I inv the
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people I know who have helped I I have
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all these things that are on back
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burners I mean this my stove has so many
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back burners its back burners to
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infinity and the front burners are just
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like there's a there's that teapot that
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i hardly ever use only when guests are
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over and then the other panels got bacon
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grease and I think this is common for a
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lot of people don't wanna get some
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common John I think a lot of people i
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know including me suffer from this and
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people who are trying to accomplish
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virtually any
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thing and especially virtually anything
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on their own quote unquote running these
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things were like yeah that can wait and
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right you know where it's absolutely
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true and and I know about myself that
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the thing that troubles me a each and
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every time is not the is not the show I
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don't have any in him I don't have any
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apprehension about getting up onstage
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and putting on a show
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the thing that inhibits me is the making
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of the phone call to the guy who's
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running the lights I don't care I don't
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want to make the phone call I don't want
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to talk to the guy that's running the
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lights and the and that is the phone
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call that it stands in between me and
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putting on the show and so the show
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doesn't get get put on because i don't
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want to call the guy that's doing the
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lights and talk to him for five minutes
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about the stupid light show that is
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that's the difference between a good
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showing up in and for me it also then
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becomes the dread of taking on new
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enterprises that will require an
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inevitable waiting for a call from the
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light guy that's right you think okay do
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I really want 10 more of these and so
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the dread is compounded by the fact that
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everybody I know that has a manager
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spends twice as much time as they used
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to spend managing themselves complaining
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about the poor job that the managers to
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and everybody I know that has an
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assistance spends half of the time that
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spends twice twice the time cleaning up
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after their assistant but there are a
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few there are a few examples of people
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that have incredibly collaborative
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relationships with the somebody that
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helps them and the person that helps
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them is not also trying to be a
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songwriter or whatever the person that
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helps them is not also trying to manage
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michael buble you know there's somebody
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there is this person in the middle
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who's like the same scale as me the same
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realm as me
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we speak the same language but they are
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on the side that is like oh called a
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lighting guy you're kidding
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done boom and where they got the mind
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for that kind of thing not mine mine for
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it they got the mind fourth day they
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love to do it
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my sister if you if you have if you have
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a complaint with a with a with a
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customer service agent my sister will
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shoulder you out of the way to make the
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call for you because she loves dealing
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with customer service agents it's a dead
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end and if my sister and I got along
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she would be a great manager for you I
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wouldn't be rejected out of hand maybe
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you need somebody you don't get along
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with but he'll understand the problem
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well and this is the big ten years ago
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if I had it all to do over again invited
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all to do over again I what about apple
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stock but if I had it all to do over
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again I would have invited my sister to
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be my manager 20 years ago and maybe we
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would be in a different place now
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because she mean it that way if that was
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actually her job she would have woken me
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up the next day and been like what the
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fuck you doing
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he's sleeping he's sleeping for a little
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while what am I supposed to man i'm
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supposed to manage you sleeping
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get up you know and we would have been
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on it that we would have been so we'd be
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somewhere else now anyway so today I'm
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having a meeting with some people who
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are going to help me find some other
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people who are going to help me aahh
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this is exciting because i think you
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you're doing something smart i was going
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to offer you advice but you're way ahead
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of me i think one way a lot of these
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things go wrong and I think you
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we've talked about this you know this
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one thing that goes wrong sometimes is
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hiring is being too abrupt about hiring
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a person who is either cheap familiar a
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fan of something but making some kind of
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a rookie mistake about bringing somebody
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in and that's what leads you into having
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to like manage a person it you know if
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you went out to hire a plumber you
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wouldn't care if they're familiar with
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your work you would get somebody who's
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just really good at the loop
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right and and so in this case you have
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you have a blue ribbon panel is going to
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help you exact find the right person
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looking if I could ask if you can say if
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you know and can say are you looking for
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more of a manager or more of an
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assistant
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well here's the thing so as I was as I
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was conceiving of this person I'm like
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what do i want i want someone who is
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half the time an assistant and who does
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not balk at assistant work and yet
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aspires to grow with me into a position
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where they are doing managerial work and
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I know for a fact that the thing that
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inhibits me most about doing anything is
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that is the dread I feel about the
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process of finding a person not
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miserable
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I don't want to think about it so I
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called a friend that I knew was too busy
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to help me and I said hello friend that
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too busy to help me and yet is an office
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manager for a non-profit right so has
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the skills and i said hello friend
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I know you're too busy to do this work
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will you help me find somebody to help
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me do this work
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and this was like the type of thing that
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she excels at tune and so she is now
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embarking on a project of interviewing
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people on my behalf so that she can find
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three candidates that then I can talk to
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and pick pick up one of while right and
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so what I'm looking for and this is the
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thing i have and the other thing I'm
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grappling with is now i have to be
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prepared to pay this person for the work
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that they do I have to be able to pay i
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have to be well it's not an ability to
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pay i have to be willing to pay them
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like a and I have to discover them the
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way that I'm going to pay them and the
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amount that i'm going to pay them right
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there is co measure it with the work and
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it's all very it's all very new and
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exciting and then the working conditions
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would be working conditions such a
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fantastic that's true there's such a
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thing as a pay they get to talk to me
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and hear my ideas in the full freshness
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wow moment they are conceived that's a
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benefit
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I knew a guy and I I can't decide if
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this is super douchey kind of smart or
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something else but he embarked on this
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particular kind of experiment as well
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and for the first I remembering this
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correctly I think what he did was hired
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in your case went out and hired all
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three from month and then discovered
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fairly clearly them against each other
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maybe the five shirtless and effective
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just give up the fact that for a month
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annoyed you'll discover whether you can
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bet you will discover within a week and
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a half at the outside which one of these
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people is most likely work out for you
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afford them because they're that good
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somebody an e3 people eat un dollars
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freedom for two weeks right unless
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they're looking for some kind of bigger
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commitment but I mean you might learn a
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that you work right and no one
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distinction this is really fast I'll but
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one distinction between an assistant
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manager and assistant is somebody who
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you pay to learn how to work for you and
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how to make and how to do the stuff that
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you need them to do but a great manager
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in some ways somebody tells you what you
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need to be dealing and then helps you to
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do it and the thing is i the the all the
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great managers that I have known are
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ones that came up with the band and they
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were the they were the fifth Beatle
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their dicks some of them are the worst
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just like the heat they were the the
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roommate of of the guitar player and
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they didn't play guitar but they were
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whatever and and they learn the whole
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process as the band is learning the
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process and so they learn the band's
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process as the band is learning it and
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they become incredibly effective
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managers because they're members of the
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absolutely because there they have a
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slightly different view port into it
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being you know these Ivy they're looking
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for where the money is going to come
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from if they're able to introduce course
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corrections sometimes painful course
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corrections but to introduce those
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before it becomes a problem right
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instead of realizing oh my gosh you know
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we're going to be able to finish this
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tour because we're not gonna have money
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based on these gigs that got cancelled
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they can find other gigs or they could
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say well here's here's harriers like
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three options for how to deal with this
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next I think this one is really good and
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I can help you do it and because they're
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not not sitting there being the dumb
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drummer god bless them like that that
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could be somebody whose heads in a
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slightly different area of the business
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well so right now i want to start doing
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Oh a week here in Seattle
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oh yeah the run of at the rendezvous
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small shall we
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and here's what I need I need somebody
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to call the rendezvous and suggest this
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idea to them thats it thats good test
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that's the first one right and that is a
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job that is not exactly an assistant job
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because you have to call the place with
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a certain amount of proprietary
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arrogance like you have to be able to
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cut you don't call a place like the
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rendezvous which is there like a shitty
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little tiny dive bar and beg them for a
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spot you have to call and say renowned
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international artists of stage and then
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pod John Roderick wants to do a show
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here once a week i'm not saying that you
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guys should be grateful but that might
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be a place to start little gratitude
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that i'm calling you today
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you know like you need to you need to
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set the you need to set the relationship
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up in that the tone in the first phone
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call but i also need this person after
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they've and i'm presuming that the
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rendezvous is going to be thrilled about
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this and they're gonna they're gonna
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agree that they coming coming right in
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the book like everyone else i don't know
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i think the book is gone my big its
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online now
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mm it's all about Peters no but then I
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need somebody to actually sit at the
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door and take the five dollars from
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every person and I New York the arch
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table but work the merch table get the
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get the names down in a in a book that
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is and and run the ticket sales for the
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next show
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so the that's it say it is a
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constellation of skill sets right
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there's the there's the merch table set
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which is one thing and there's the you
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know it's all in the family right so I'm
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looking for somebody and I'm and and two
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if i find this person if i find this
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right person I feel like I have so much
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stuff on the back burners
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that in the next six months i could say
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okay now what about this now i can you
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handle this now what about this can you
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get this going and you're gonna have a
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person could take all that on and it
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would not need to be overwhelming for
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them right and I feel like I feel like
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they could double my income in a year
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just because because that because of all
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the money i leave lying around you it's
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just like Oh would you help me do this
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yes boom and so if they are able to
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double my income in a year i am like I
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would be into paying them a percentage
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of what I make I mean I would be ready
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to start treating them like a manager
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right away because i think the i think
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the the fruits would be right there it
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would be the platter of fruit in pretty
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short order
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um but that said I've dealt with a lot
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of people and the the right person is
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like you say not maybe the person that
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knocks me out in the interview or maybe
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not the you know like that's a it's a
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job you evolve into a night and I really
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you know the problem with the this this
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interview with three people because i'm
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going to do i'm gonna be my dad when I
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walk into that interview i am going to
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instantly try and charm them you know
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that the interview is going to be i'm
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going to act as though it is an audition
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like a Hollywood audition of me I'm
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innocent man walking to be like hello
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nice to meet you swell sit down no
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please make yourself compliments like be
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performing a version of myself for these
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presumably kids made you know about my
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brother and my dad is a perfect example
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my mom was telling me about there's at
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least one 62-year old Chinese man that
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well that's the thing she said you're so
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awesome
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my mom said your father you're imagining
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22 year old girls with fingerless gloves
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so is sixty-something Chinese man how's
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everything with a green visor that I
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already called the round
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I've already got more coffee coming up
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Mia I know the guy my mom said your
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father had a had throughout her life a
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succession of secretaries that saved his
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life over and over and over again every
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penny he made he made because he had he
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always had a great secretary and she
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always made the phone calls and she
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always as he's rushing out the door
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throwing on his his trench coat in his
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hat they always you know stopped him at
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her desk and said David David I just
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need you to sign this one thing and he
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would go home we are made sign it and
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that piece of paper would be the thing
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that kept the lights on right and what
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when my dad was when he was in his
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seventies he had a secretary who was
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like oh what's your what's your
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retirement plan and my dad said uh-huh
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I don't know um well I've got an Audi i
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could probably sell that uh what else
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and she was like seriously you don't
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have a you know you have no retirement
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he was like uh-oh i'm gonna live forever
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and she in between her other work back
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in an era of like licking stamps
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envelopes she put together that his
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wartime service his time in the
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legislature his time working for the
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Alaska or the first for the federal
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government in Alaska his time working
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for the Democratic Party in Washington
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all this uh he was you know all all of
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his work
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so much of it was government work that
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it when you filled out all the forms it
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added up to a government pension as
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though he had worked for the federal
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government for 45 years and she did all
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this you know she wrote the Veterans
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Administration and asked for his records
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enlisted in the Navy when he first
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enlisted in the naval ROTC they spelled
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his name one way and when he joined the
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maybe they spelled his name another way
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and write the Department of the Navy and
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get them put together and wrote all
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these letters over the course of five
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years she's just always just constantly
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just sending letters to various
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government agencies and in the end she
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put together his retirement that
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absolutely he I mean had she had it not
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been for her
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my dad would have been living in a
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shopping cart i squared or he would have
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been living in his audi and as it was
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you know he retired and and and you know
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government remember you know he like
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didn't he was great things that you're a
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menace amount of initiative synthesis
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and follow through
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yeah the initiative to like be aware
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what's out there synthesize that
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information and then follow through with
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a freaking government agency to make
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sure you get what you need out of it
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yeah and that work that work had to be
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personally gratifying to her in a way
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that people that love spreadsheets you
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know like get the act of tracking and
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researching it's you know it's a
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librarian mentality of like I'm going to
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find this and I know how to write the
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thing and I'm going to get it and then
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when i get it i'm going to put it with
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this other thing you know but also like
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a tremendous amount of love for him
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that she would have spent this time you
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know as well as she could have just been
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punching a clock on this job but she's
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doing this work that's gonna you know
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that that is that pays off for him after
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he's after they've parted ways like
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she's still alive I'm sure she's working
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somewhere maybe she's retired but she
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like did this work on behalf of my dad
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and according to my mom through his
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entire career
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the one thing he knew how to do was hire
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a secretary that would that that could
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telling me this I'm like oh fuck it's
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the one thing I need to learn how to do
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I don't need to learn how to call the
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rendezvous I need to learn how to hire a
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secretary
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how'd you come up with the test
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well I was just thinking I mean one idea
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is to have a fairly simple as simple to
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describe task that ends up having unseen
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complexities and then see how they
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handle and I'm thinking here
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higher higher zero number one you don't
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get Jason Finn to pretend to be somebody
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and then have them have to deal with him
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haha so you know there's a your dog
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here's the bird i need you to go and and
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get whatever it is it could be that you
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need new uniforms for the band and he is
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the quote unquote you know not for
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supply guy
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it could be that he runs the rendezvous
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it could be whatever it is but you can
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come up with some kind of a basic
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challenge where he would respond in
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certain inscrutable ways and then you
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see how they handle it
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mm and he could give you a frank you
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know recounting of how it went well that
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you know I that's a good idea and he
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would be he would definitely be a good
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you can you do that for a living it's
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interesting you know as you said that I
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pictured him suddenly with a with a tape
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measure around the neck of his shirt and
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a pair of glasses down the end of his
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nose and I realized that's what he
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actually is jason is actually a tailor
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he's like Taylor that's that that front
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of shop that is really like an OSS I
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like underground huh
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he's the tailor of panama you come in
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you pull back on one of the mannequins
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in a big door opens and there's like a
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cave full of weapons
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well but so but the but the tax that the
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the litmus test what I fear is that that
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I have to pass right attacked the test
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which is like I have a friend who has a
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very very very good relationship with
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his assistant who has now kind of
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transitioned into being his partner and
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when they first started working together
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it was very much in the seat that the
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assistant was very much in an assistant
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role and when and during that time when
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the assistant was still young and
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precocious and wet behind the ears the
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assistant did a lot of things that I as
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a bystander was like this kid is a is a
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unit he's callo this guy's a dingaling
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he's a dingaling and my friend was like
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yeah well he does these things for me so
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whatever and then I was you know but I i
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can never sky can never keep myself from
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giving an unsolicited opinion and so
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repeatedly I said to him in this
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assisted you got to get rid of this guy
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he's just he doesn't reflect well on
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because he's a daily then my friend was
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much more sanguine is like yeah well he
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gets the stuff done so what you know
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doesn't matter to me if I don't I don't
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care if people think he's a tingling and
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there was one particular instance where
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the assistant got drunk shit-faced drunk
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at an event
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and if it if it had been me I would have
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read this kid the riot act the next day
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I would have embarrassed him up and down
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what the hell you think you're doing
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getting drunk in a thing like that you
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know that looks you know I would have
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liked taking it as an opportunity to
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teach this kid a life lesson and it
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would have left a bad taste in
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everybody's mouth and it would have been
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paternalistic and I would have been
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completely justified in doing it but
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what ended up happening is the kid was
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in bear uh in in actual life this actual
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person was embarrassed he be realized on
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his own without being yelled at that he
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needed to get better and he became more
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professional pretty quickly as he grew
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into his job and now he is an eighth now
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he is an incredibly professional useful
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partner and part of that
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self-determination on his part and the
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self actualization of himself in that
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role self-awareness in humility was
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entirely due to the fact that no one
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ever yelled at him and no one ever
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lecture him about why the blah
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he discovered in himself and that's how
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he grew and became a man and i watch
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that happen in this relationship with my
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friend and realize that i would have
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inserted myself into that process right
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as a pedagogue over and over and I would
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have fucked it up
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I would have fucked the kid up i would
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have fucked the relationship up because
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I would have been trying to micromanage
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his transition into adulthood or not
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micromanage but like guide and Shepherd
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mentor you you would have made it all
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about your own emotions instead of what
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that person actually needed in terms of
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personal development
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yeah right this kid got drunk at an
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event so what the next day he was
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embarrassed and he talked to some other
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people about it and they were like yeah
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you were pretty wasted and he was
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embarrassed and when he went and talked
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to his boss the guy who he works for
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black I didn't say anything about it he
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just was like well we get to go where we
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have to get done today and the kid made
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his own move and the you know and the
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boss was the boss character in this role
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was relieved not only of the of the duty
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of all the unhappiness and that is the
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interview that i don't know if i can
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pass route right how do i empower and
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assistance to make mistakes and not you
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know and not my in my own way freak out
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and lose it so your little what antsy
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about how my go today because you want
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to make sure you're up to the task to
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well yeah I mean so everything that's
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happened in the last six months since I
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stopped eating wheat since I went on all
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kale diet since I discovered Scientology
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since Jesus came into my life everything
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that's happened for the last six months
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I have been wondering I've been looking
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at myself and I've been saying is are
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you just in a manic phase you've been
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you've been on this train your whole
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six months on six months off and when
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you are manic you sleep four hours a
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night and you every idea seems great
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and you go out in the yard and you plant
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tulips everywhere and then six months
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later and all turns to shit and you know
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and your yard is just this riot of fun
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pruned tulips and you're just in the
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bathtub like whistling Dixie
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how do I know that I'm not how do i know
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i'm not just setting up a bunch of manic
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like sand castles and I'm gonna get a
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hunky kept his assistant i'm going to
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get all this stuff going on and then I'm
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yeah and and in reality i'm just having
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an episode
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yeah well yeah I wasn't thinking about
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what it is that you really want to do
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your talking about you know it's almost
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like you don't see it being a parent but
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you're looking for an opportunity to get
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some help but also grow in some ways
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like you it in my own words what i would
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say is that you know I've realized that
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I'm not a good manager i would
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theoretically like to be a better
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manager but every time I've tried to do
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anything management-related I failed
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horribly because it's really boring it's
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not fun it's not what i like to do and I
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feel like it's a huge derail from
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everything I should be doing so I do
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nothing instead and then lifestyle back
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burners again but but you know to get
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the right person for this job you need
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somebody who's not just I mean in my
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tiny bit of experience with this my the
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the i could write almost every failure
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down to the fact that i just did not do
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a good job of training and communicating
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andrey communicating and retraining and
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and not correcting but like just showing
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like well more like this like that
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that'sthat's we know it's really simple
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right i mean I somebody if somebody
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working your restaurant and didn't know
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how to cook you and just yell at him all
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the time you would just let them make
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crap it's a not so much salt
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yeah more like this like the right and
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so it fits for what you're really trying
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to work towards which is somebody who's
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on the track to becoming a management or
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partner type person someday
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it requires really requires you to have
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a really so certain kind of personality
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but also to know what it is that you
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want because
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you find somebody who's super organized
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and really likes Excel spreadsheets
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they're gonna they're gonna get really
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frustrated if you're constantly changing
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the game or not answering the phone or
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so that's something that I like it is
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clear i need help but what I need the
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what I need most is that I am helping
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people but I and that is what I don't
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know can I beheld the project is really
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to make you help people can I hire
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somebody to learn to teach me to be
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helpful chance the win for everybody
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it would be if you became more i think
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about it not you at all of us if we all
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became or more helpful
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yeah well this is the thing about about
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your in my program we are trying to help
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yes and we have seen over and over that
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some people are very helpful and some
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people are less helpful
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yeah and it's not going to deter us from
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helping the people who can and should be
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helped but really what we really want is
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to help the people that can't be helped
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oh I think that i think that's that's
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really that is deep in your DNA is to is
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to help us helpful it is I need to I i
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need somewhere inside me i need to help
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the people that cannot be held at jeans
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were done talking and hi I'm realizing i
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am one of those people
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I need to I need to learn to be helped
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the call is coming from inside the John
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that's really something
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cry me Pete so today is gets going to be
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very interesting is gonna be a big day
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I'm gonna go sit in a coffee shop my
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native environment and I'm gonna have
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people who know how to make phone calls
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and uh and turn on computers i'm going
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to have them tell me that there is a
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plan and then i'm going to try and
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figure out what i need to do what do I
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need to do and maybe the answer is
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nothing yet
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you know maybe what I do next is nothing
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yet because you're not ready you're not
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helping enough yet yeah what is
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happening now what's happening is that I
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am watching things unfold and things are
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going to you know like and yet i'm not
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i'm not waiting anymore you know like
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yeah I want this to happen i'm i'm gonna
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go forward posture well so I i am i'm
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not crazy about people who are really
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into Lake tricky interviews and tricky
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questions and you know kobayashi Marie
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situations all those Chinese finger trap
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shiny now if you got a 62 year old
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Chinese man but I don't want to be ping
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trouble right but the amount the target
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as we were getting close to
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you out to New Year's I was like $2,000
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short of its of this imaginary amount
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and I was like it's January 29 i'm not
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going to get it i'm not going to make my
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mom I'm not gonna make my target
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december twenty I'm sorry just December
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29 i'm not going to make it and it
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wasn't a big deal
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I that and I had a couple of people who
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were like oh I owe you that you know
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1,500 bucks i'll get that to you don't
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have fresh money you needed you need to
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get a little bit of fresh real primary
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money that's right and so I agreed to do
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this I agreed to write another thing for
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somebody i agree to United creates all
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these things at the end of the year and
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then january thirty first I got an email
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from my publishers who are like up
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settling up at the end of the year
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uh we forgot you know we are you 2,500
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bucks or whatever
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boom and I was like hey Barbra trickery
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yeah I made the arbitrary amount but
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anyway back to the back to the other
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thing like yeah I cannot think about my
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place in the in the on the in the
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library right i just have to make the
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next thing and I have to make it with
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passion I have to make the thing that
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I'm here and I hope you I hope you
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believe that John because i think that
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would be very good advice for you to
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yeah yeah I just don't anybody library
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library i'll take care of itself you
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make us and if you make enough stuff
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it'll show up in the library don't worry
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and and what happened the only time i
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spend worry about the library is when
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i'm not actually making stuff right if
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I'm Faulkner was a problem drinker when
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he wasn't writing at if you're making
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stuff you're nothing about where it goes
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you're just making it just you know you
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where it goes is just like get it out of
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in front of me so I can make the next
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so this is why you need to hire mr. Lee
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need to hire mr. Lee and he's gonna you
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know what he's going to sit next to me
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and every time I pull up pull a page out
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of the typewriter like James ce qu'elle
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etait what that credit sequence at the
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end you have to get cheers sitter boosts
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it who gets dog
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the guy with the little green visor is
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going to take the piece of paper and
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he's gonna split on the stack and he's
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gonna say I'm about the United I'm
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taking this somewhere or maybe you know
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whatever i could he could be lying to me
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he could be just burning them in the
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yard point is you're getting stuff done
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the point of the fuck is nothing now so
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the other day I in the in the pursuit of
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this new idea who which could maybe a
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manic episode the entire thing that John
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time and tide you say not even exist
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yes they are all be i may be sitting in
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her you're telling me that you may not
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actually have a podcast in which you
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discuss your feelings of unwell pneus
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about whether you're creating art by
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having written and syr piece about
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whether the M internet is getting worse
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yeah I could be the character and
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metallic was one look at you could be
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fine at that's taking up in a VA
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hospital imagining this whole life John
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Roderick got his gun but I so the other
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day I bought a macbook air
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alright we have so much to talk about
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and you've got to go hire somebody
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well sorry so you what did you get the
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extra ramp so I got the extra ram cake
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but what is amazing to me about this is
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that McIntosh and I don't think this is
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just something that's happening in me I
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thought this computer and something has
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happened Macintosh Apple has made this
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they have made this device which is a
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cultural device they have made a thing
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that made a box now for so long that
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that purports to do these things for us
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that is this
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magicbox ok and i have bought enough of
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these magic boxes over the years and
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have turned them on each time with it
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with it like Dewey and fizzles hope and
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expectations i am going to make up I'm
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gonna make a film of all of my photos
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and i'm going to put it into my calendar
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and I'm gonna stand me added added to my
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contacts writing that square it's it's
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and this is going to streamline my
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process and i'm just going to sit here
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it's like it's like the coffee maker or
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the automatic light this is going to be
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the thing that changes everything right
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that's not you too Liz gonna fix it all
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and what would it was amazing as i
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bought this macbook air and I came home
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and I I threw the box with the computer
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and it unopened on the table and I went
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about the rest of my day and the next
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day my lady friend was over here and she
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said I can't believe you haven't you
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bought a new laptop and you haven't even
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opened it and I looked over I was like
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oh yeah yeah
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oh how open that today probably and i
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was astonished to discover that i had no
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excitement that I was not in the least
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bit thrilled about my new computer that
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i knew i needed it and i bought it so
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that i could take it places and right on
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it but opening it and discovering the
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new operating system and syncing my
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contacts
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uploading my data to the cloud it all
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like the the thrill was gone and the
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tape it to fix some some good examples
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of that examples
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those are good examples of things that
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they're not so great in front ease when
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i open my mail when I finally did open
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the box and I turned on the computer and
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it went boom be in here and the lights
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come on and here's the computer and look
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at it and I go oh wow awesome and I
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touch it with my hand
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the first thing that pops up is a the
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itunes let your Apple ID know the itunes
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agreement has changed please click
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please click click agree and then the
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second thing it was like you need to
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download newts new software you need to
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you know update your update your OS so
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the thing that came in the box didn't
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even have the it wasn't it needed to be
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updated and the first three hours I
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spent with the new machine was just
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doing administrative exit clicking i
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agree on 25 because every single piece
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of software that needed to be updated
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also i needed to click a new Apple
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agreement yes and your password and
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enter my password and I was just like
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they have finally done it they have they
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have made this creativity box that is
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supposed to the end had it not only
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supposed to but has successfully freed
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us all from the drudgery of having to
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get up in the morning and chop wood and
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go to the bathroom and an outdoor toilet
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and iron are pillowcases it's all gone
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now and because we're all artists and
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geniuses and we all have this amazing
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powerful box that can they can collate
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our work and they have made it now into
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a drudgery
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and buying this computer I was just like
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I've just gotta go out and chop some
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wood to heat up the stove in the Privy
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so that i can take a shit on a wooden
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toilet seat happened i was so it was
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just like what's what next
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how now brown cow yeah I'm sorry John I
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i wish i wish i could have something to
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say about making it easier to line up of
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you know I think once i get my contacts
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synced yeah I'll be a lot happier it's
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gonna be a lot easier for you yeah that
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looks it'll take an hour to don't worry
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you can be done with that note i'm in
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the process with my wife has had 14
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versions of every contact for three
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years no matter what we've ever done to
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fix that she comes right back
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she gets 14-14 ecology accounted
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accounted plus i have my guy I know
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named Jason santa maria is in my
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contacts as Jason Santa Santa Santa
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Santa Santa Santa Santa stand aside from
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marie apt because it just works the best
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part was I went so I'm or so this
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computer you know didn't give me an
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option it was going to upgrade the 10.9
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or whatever but I went the computer i'm
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talking to you on now I was like oh now
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got a new computer i'm going to sync it
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with my old computer eating you that you
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didn't start by pulling that over but I
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can't because my old computer is running
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ready 10.6 still make that no they don't
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and so I went online and I was like okay
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I'm going to upgrade to 10.9 i guess and
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before I click on the button i started
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reading the reviews 1 star 1 star 1 star
[TS]
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this is a carbon joanna is re reviews
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garbage oh is garbage Oh as this is
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gonna ruin your life and the problem the
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thing is I have post-traumatic stress
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disorder because i have upgraded you
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know on my little iPhone or whatever I
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put the new OS on there multiple times
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and every time it just turns it just
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breaks that
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never crash it's haha
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I've never had so many crashes on any
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phone i've ever owned
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then I have in the last month and a half
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M it wakes up to get that when he wakes
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up and just get a little white apple
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because you use your phone a lot
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I mean you really use it right i used
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the shit out of my phone and my phone is
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so there is a ghost in the machine now
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that was so what happened was I was I
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was on grand bahama as you do earlier
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this year without a message board
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no reds and it's an island i was on it i
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was on one of the Bahama Island got it
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and I was riding a scooter around the
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island as you do and i was on that very
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far end of the island and I got caught
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up in a Caribbean rainstorm and I was
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wearing white linen pants and a white
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linen church which look smashing
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when they're dry but when they're wet
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you basically look like a mozzarella so
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wet and so I'm riding through his you
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know i'm riding through this this the
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beautiful tropical
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beautiful tropical
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paradise just didn't get close get
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longer and bigger well yeah Leslie just
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like Lady cheese you can treat you can
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see every dimple annual mon ha and you
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know when i'm almost i'm driving fast
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because i'm on this i'm on the scooter
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and looks like that's what type scooter
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yeah look at this yeah and i have my
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phone in my pocket and that amount of
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wet a bottom aenean linen pocket wet is
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a lot of wet it's a lot of wet and it
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was enough wet it's not like I dropped
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it in the in the toilet like my phone
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that i would consider this to be normal
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use but the phone i know for a fact
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whatever that little button is inside
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that turns colors yet they can tell
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that's really got really wet again they
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can tell you about that you know about
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the yeah and then they just shake their
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head at you and they're like there's
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nothing we can do
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and so that's the thing is like friction
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on the frame jam flipping on the plots I
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mean every time I turn it on the first
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thing it does is it types for TJ's and
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k's in a you know just like Skid i'll
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put it up just like jkjkjkjk and I have
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to reset it
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