Ep. 97: "With Buckethead"
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well surely shovel
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get the boom daughter nothing then their
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10 haha don't kind of photo lowdown do
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that's the way it ought sometimes he
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sounds like barry gibb to me over and
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and then other times like ninety-eight
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percent of the rest of the time he
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sounds like the songs the beatles should
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have done instead of breaking up this
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was the covert mission statement of the
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move the move said when without the move
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excuse me LOL so after the move was but
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when the movie is breaking up Roy Wood
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and him said that they thought they
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would be basically picking up with the
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beatles should have going yeah yeah well
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I think appropriately they're picking up
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with the beatles would have been if
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they'd stopped in 1967
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uh-huh if they if they had alternate
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universe Beatles and 67 had decided to
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follow George's impulses
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hmm they would have ended up being
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yellow if they decided to keep making
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like a better version of magical mystery
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tour maybe I don't know there are a lot
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of better versions of magical mystery
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tomatoes made three of them probably was
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your time I have to have something about
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this the other day was there anyone
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beetle who had the creative a trajectory
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to have been to have gotten out of
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liverpool on his own
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the question that's like when you first
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of all I already really liked this
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episode
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second I think you could argue would
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have been Ringo interesting to see
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already had a career with Lori storm in
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the Hurricanes tried he was the B was
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the the cat she was the big the big
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yeah it could have gone to London and
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been a session guy easily
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this is he just drive right there but
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like Lenin was just lettin what it was a
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self sabotage ER mm he would have never
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ever like independently become a
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musician certainly no bigger than Rory
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storm who was a much better looking guy
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better suits you know how you Rory storm
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put on a show for Christ's sake is a
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gentleman Lenin would have been better
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when I'm not gonna do that or whatever
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it is you know I can't really do a linen
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hi I'm I think it's a really interesting
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idea and you know we talked about before
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like how you know a lot of people even
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who are like kind of intermediate Beatle
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fans don't know exactly like how much of
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the time John Lennon was unhappy he was
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a very unhappy guy mad mad and like like
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but after I mean I i had not prepared
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for the beatles episode as well as I
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probably would've but I would say that
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if you look at the first couple records
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cool man i think the heart and soul the
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band clearly the best songwriter
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pound-for-pound was John he's running
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the band to start i mean ii we as I I
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know you'll side with me unlike notnot
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slag and Paul in any way at that only
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that but Paul didn't i mean the the band
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bloom when Paul started really find his
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own when John got super depressed and
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start smoking weed
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I think Paul really ran with the ball
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but if you go back and listen to this
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first few records the most distinctive
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stuff about what made the beatles the
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beatles was a songwriting but I mean I
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think John really propelled data on the
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first couple records especially he had
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you know John had John made 13 pop music
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sound compelling through the application
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of his anger like teen pop music is not
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interesting
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unless there is like anger and
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desperation behind it
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and John had all the anger and
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desperation Paul you know he was a year
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older than Paul over but I mean I think
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you could I think if certainly if Shawn
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Nelson were here he would be mad he
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would be mad he would be standing here
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with his hands jammed in his jacket
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pockets but try trying to figure out a
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polite way to excuse himself but if he
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were here and engaged in this
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conversation he would make the case that
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Paul had Paul had the talent Paul had
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the the possibility the capability of
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getting out of liverpool on his own but
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I would argue that he didn't I think
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without I think I think you're
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absolutely right i think Ringo probably
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could have made a made a go at it as a
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as like a player but you know George was
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going to be a junior high teacher John
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was going to be a a guy at the end of
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the bar
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it's got sick jon is going to be an
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alcoholic he was going to be an angry
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alcoholic at the end of the bar who
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worked at a shop in like a manufacturer
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all working in nursing home playing
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piano that's right that's absolutely
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right paul wood pulp would be probably
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yeah at the at the at the other end of
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the bar you know playing playing his
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father's favorite songs and lemon water
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would have hated his guts
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yep it but like I think you could say I
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mean really up the clock when I consider
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really the classic period everything
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really up to around the time of magical
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mystery tour in Nam they really just
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let's just establish magical mystery
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tour tonight sand here's the way to tell
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if a Beatles records good if you take
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away the singles is it still really an
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yeah and they've got that yellow
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submariner a couple where you're like
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mmm yeah not really album lot of vinyl
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had to die for no reason but the thing
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is the two of them really did propel
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each other
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iima a mature student this I've read
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books about this i've read the you know
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the whole attribution of like who
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different people think should get which
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credits on which songs but i think the
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input fairly incontrovertible thing is
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even up to the time of I'm gonna say
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let's just say we can probably see
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through revolver
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they were still hugely influential on
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what made it onto the vinyl you might
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like back in the day I think there was a
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you can if you listen to stuff he had
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sold and kind of stuff that everybody
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listen to right now you can you can when
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they got their mics on and everything
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you can get here like how much they
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wrote that song together and then soon
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enough you start noticing
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oh you know John definitely worth the
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bridge on that or more often like Paul
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definitely read the bridge on that
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Ryan's probably didn't write the verses
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but the performance they just put you
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push each other so far forward
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yes don't you and you can even after
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even after it's evident that they are
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writing independent of one another
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they're still writing to impress one
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another you can hear Paul like Paul
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being deeper than he may be was on the
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first pass he did the first pass right
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he was like this is amazing i love the
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melody but then he added an element of
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he you know he added an element of
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tension narrative tension to impress
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John and you can hear that in there
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oh yeah and then you know John less
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trying to impress Paul but more trying
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to compete with Paul and you know and
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trying to trying to shove yesterday back
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down his throat and I think ultimately
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failing failing to compete with Paul's
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like pop generating like madness and
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ultimately in failing to do that
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resented Paul turning in that turning in
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that direction of like accusing Paul of
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doing the same old thing of creating
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music accusing Paul of being predictable
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intervie all these kind of like bitter
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accusations that are really because he
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couldn't match he couldn't match
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yesterday
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oh yeah I i agree and also two things
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first of all like I think there's always
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whenever I think about themselves their
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writing songs together i always think
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about that one guy coming in with you
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know apart like good parts might maybe a
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version of course maybe something like a
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and I always imagined him in a lot of my
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favorite Beatle songs what the other guy
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maybe there's a lot of my favorite songs
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are primarily Paul songs but i imagine
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John coming and going
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not so fast right so Paul coming and
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going not so fast right and then because
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like it's almost like a debate like some
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of my favorite people sighs I'm trying
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to think someone stole my head but like
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Paul has written this beautiful like
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thing that works as a unit within the
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bridge the turn if you like is John
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giving a rebuttal em and that's where
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that that's where that like that perfect
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amount of cynicism comes into it and
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that's why the bets why those wings
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records are such a turd piles as part of
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it and the base got louder and louder
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but you know this is this is really
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really reductive but if you think about
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a good pop song like so many pop songs
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there's got to be a part that's about
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building tension is going to be a part
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about releasing tension and the most
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productive way to put that I mean it is
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that like a lot of times especially I'll
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saying things like new wave an indie
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rock em maybe you have like this kind of
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minor chorus verse it's all about you
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know kind of like tension building and
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then they'll be this then the poppy
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explosion comes on the course of
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explosion but it could be you can invert
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that but you know saying if you have all
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if you have all like a 3-quart song with
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all major all the way through
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no minors on the bridge nothing like
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that it just that you get the ramones
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which is fun for its tight but even they
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knew when to throw in a minor chord that
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you've got to build it up you need to
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have like two cars take a touch-and-go
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right all i need is what you've got this
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incredibly angular addicted to bear if
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I'm talking about em okay you think this
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has got to be the weirdest sounding
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verse of a song I've ever heard
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and then the course goes no didn't
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didn't didn't didn't think you're going
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to like how could this be the same song
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but it kind of works yes
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you know Sonic Youth sonic you songs are
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like this too
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they'll be like that you know this kind
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of symphonic like explosion in the
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chorus is after all this angular stuff
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going on the verses and it happens in
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pretty much every beatles song that way
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to I at when i'm sitting in trying to
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write songs which i have been doing for
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the last six years and failing part of
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what I'm part of what I aspire to
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because i think if you listen to the
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long winter songs the verses are the the
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life of the tune is all in the verses
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verses are exposed ettore it's they
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they're you know they're kind of like
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listicles they are not listicles I don't
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I don't I don't see that at all and then
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it comes to the chorus and there is
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there's an attempt to have this
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explosive pop you know indie-pop like
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and now here's the chorus and half the
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time it ends up it ends up being a
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pre-course to a later course that where
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everything I need to express and then
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word over and over it's behind the new
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word teaspoon what I was conveying a
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that how a teaspoon played into the
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narration right i mean the TSP as a as a
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item to cook your heroine a teaspoon
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where's etc but i didn't have but i did
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not i but but that was that's pretty you
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know I would I was counting on someone
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writing a dissertation on it later i did
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not actually completed not actually put
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all those different meanings in the
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lyrics i tried to communicate those
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different meanings in the different ways
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that I saying this one word and that you
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know that's very that's frustrating to
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me as an artist because my meaning will
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never be clear unless I explained it and
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what's what's great about great pop song
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yeah they come in and say oh we didn't
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mean LSD Lucy was Paul's and and the
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diamonds were his you know and it sucks
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but it's a lot of unnecessary explaining
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that's just obfuscating trying to make
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something that simple seem more
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difficult and in and and my problem i
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be that my sons are impossibly more
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difficult than i could that then is
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evident and explaining them is just like
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a dumb or after the after the fact you
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know you're like you had a chance to put
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it in the song and you and your you're
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hoping that people are telepathic
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I like that about your songs i like that
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they you know you wouldn't say that you
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know this is a song about that and for
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this is a song about this feeling I I
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like that about and I it doesn't read as
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and to just go to the other end of the
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continuum i don't i don't think there
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till they don't feel like they're
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deliberately opaque and no no right but
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yeah knowing that some of them are very
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puzzling little puzzles but I I don't
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ever feel like there's some kind of like
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they're like a mystery song like I
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actually he was dead all along or
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something like that helps right now yeah
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there's no there's no trick
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yeah I don't know it
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had been trying to write songs that are
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like here's the here's the verse it's
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just as poppy and melodic as a chorus
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fuck it fuck that melodic and poppy and
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also tells you stuff it also tells you
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stuff about the song and the the ideas
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even think about anything about witness
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is that Paul stopped caring whether his
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songs meant anything uh hot story ever
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did care really needs to be one wing
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song and I had I mean I i personally
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owned at least probably three wings 45
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she's pretty big deal because i was
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eight at the time but you know that
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something great like live and let die
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crazy wackadoodle there's really only
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one song you need to hear to understand
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yeah i think well there's probably
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several one songs you can hear but i'm
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going to say the major was a little lady
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uh oh man suffer a jet jet don't know
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who such a good song girl huh i was
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amazed i'm gonna stick silly love some
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oh haha first of all a is the base
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definitely check yes that the base is
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way too loud
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it is a canonical three chord song that
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would not have gotten past the first
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table read in The Beatles the baselines
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great do-do-do-do-do you can sure hear
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it because it's nice and upfront but
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here so we got you think people would
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have had enough silly love songs and
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it's just pretty much straightforward a
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love song oh my god I'm are you i'm
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already seven years old as soon as you
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start singing I'm just like what's wrong
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with that like to know because here we
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go together
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and then I haha you know that's where
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John yeah arrived upon the scene get
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drunk it's that right there
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yeah what's wrong with that I'd like to
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know because here i go again and then
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John would have said something to the
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effect of why do I keep going again
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he wouldn't be able to brought a
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counterparty let's go wait a minute
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yes yeah I'm here's what's wrong with
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yeah I do have a problem i got a big
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fucking problem with silly love it's a
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lot more complicated than that and then
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at the end you got that little like kind
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of kota it's dropout they do it again
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and you get just a ah oh my god it's
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nine feeling that you look Baba
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Blackwater keep on rolling and hand it's
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taking a lot of hand-wringing I loan
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that's that because at that point at
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that point Paul felt that every idea
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that he had was the greatest idea that
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is so high he did not need a second idea
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he just needed the one idea
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Oh a hundred percent in OB story to it
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you know it's a and everybody was like
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okay that's good
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sure let's say your culture whatever you
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say buddy i was thinking about Billie
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Jean it was simply having a wonderful
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christmas the pump and what was that
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that's like the biggest selling single
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of all time writers that Moloch entire
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ohmic entire article song that was that
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was mark entire was like the hugest
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biggest UK i think until bohemian
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rhapsody probably but if you think about
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beat it
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no no I'm sorry bility boot don't do you
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alright dynamite dynamite baseline
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through and you listen to the way it's
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recorded in the way it tucks into the
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like it's really menacing it's super
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menacing like super dark and the bass
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tone is she is shaped in such a way that
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it can just you can just it's not in
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your face right that baseline could have
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been like Quincy Jones could could have
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doubled the volume on that baseline and
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then probably when they were mixing it
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they tried it you know like let's put
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this all the way forward like this is
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dynamite but like part of its Menace is
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that it's like it's kind of subsumed
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like overtime but what got me thinking
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about this was i was walking along and I
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was singing billy gene and I said to
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myself when about what's the baseline to
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this song it is the greatest bass line
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of all pop music but i'm having a hard
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time remembering it and i'm walking a
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lot of like billie jean is not my lover
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is it the same is it that same rough
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kind of figure through the Saw III don't
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to do is be so it's kind of starts on a
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weird wacky will know so it's kind of
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always unresolved right is divided into
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20 so so good so good and a thing a
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thing but like where we're in the Paul
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McCartney arc creative ark would he have
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left behind any chance of writing Billie
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I don't know I feel like there's so much
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wonderful stuff at the end to ever like
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but I just feel like there was the
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restraint the restraint that is on those
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first couple of michael jackson solar
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records
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the I mean I guess it's that Quincy
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Jones still had some i still had some
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Authority in the picture where we're
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probably the last three Beatles records
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there was no authority left
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let's also gets yelled it also is I was
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going to say it's about Paul but it's
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even sure of michael jackson was the
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first of all they're both just natural
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musicians and and musical people i mean
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i really think Michael Jackson probably
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had something almost like a four track
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in his head
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you can imagine what that stuff is like
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he's doing a dance singing the song is
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going to catch a case like figuring it
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out so Stevie Wonder making those
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records where he would play the drum I
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don't I just that's completely
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mind-blowing to go and play the freaking
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drums to the sufferer get to pay my
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electric bill you know but think about
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the timing on that because you got off
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the wall and which is also amazing offer
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wall and thriller are both pretty great
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but you know it's you know what that's
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generous of you
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they're pretty good but you know the
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thing about both of those as with Paul's
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rise to power circuits 65 was the timing
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was the taste that Michael Jackson had
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within the context of having quincy
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jones as a producer his taste got
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channeled in the best conceivable way so
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Paul I mean Paul wrote you won't see me
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like what a fantastic song with great
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edginess and like every part of that
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song is pretty much I mean it's just
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want to say that it's just about perfect
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song i think that one of your son's butt
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but you know the things he had to
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channel that through a room with those
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guys in it and which on it and with you
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know and with the torsion right setting
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up in the sitting upstairs but the kind
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of taste that makes one of the richest
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man in the world right simply having a
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wonderful christmas time the timing the
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taste is off the timing is wrong and
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there's nobody there he's getting all
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these like George Lucas there's nobody
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there telling him like you know you've
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got to stop you got to stop doing this
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yep i don't i was listening to the radio
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the other day driving in my car turned
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on the radio do duty it's going out the
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mouth bass show ending we're going to be
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everything
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and and this band comes on and I was
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like saying Bruce Springsteen song
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you're probably seeing the pointer
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sisters version of a pre spring song I a
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song comes on and i'm having this the
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same experience that I'm having a lot
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now and listening to modern music which
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is I said its people or property talked
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it said this is either a James addiction
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like outtake i had never heard before
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which I know it isn't because there is
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no James addiction outtake I haven't
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heard or it is some new version of
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jane's addiction that Perry Farrell has
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recently put together with with bucket
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head and a Michael Schenker and sweet
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haha i think that could so happen that
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was so having which I haven't heard
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anything about but that doesn't mean
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it's not it doesn't happen
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I bet they've taken smoothie that they
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have been fully sat down with very
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Farrell and was like who can we get to
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make sure that scene from godfather to
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with the gold telephone like to thank
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this is a another example of this sort
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of owl city situation where a band is
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just staking their claim on reproducing
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with no imagination reproducing the
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sound of a earlier bandit and in a way
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like yellow me it is amazing no that's
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no that's bad that little Instagram
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account taking pictures of any legal its
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pictures
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yeah exactly yeah i mean at yellow have
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this overarching concept like let's go
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in the direction that the Beatles would
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have gone if they
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had like stuck around kept taking acid
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headless maybe he'd listen to george a
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little more
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listen to george a little more had a
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24-track and the white cello and piano
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white jello like basically when ya right
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went into a like at basically expunged
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the Blue Meanies and went into a kind of
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magical mystery tour that was not that
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was not characterized by total dread
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like let's say okay magical mystery tour
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if magical mystery tour was not a
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response to the death of brian epstein
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yeah right let's say that up here anyway
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but this band so sorry i do this i do
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the the the the shazam alright i thought
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this on the tutor
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yeah and it turns out that it is a band
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that it's like a young band on on our a
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record label and they are making it's
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basically like in this is the thing
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about Jane's Addiction like jane's
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addiction was already influenced by the
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doors enough let's say jane's addiction
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was already influenced by the doors
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enough by ten percent too much but this
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new band their insight their innovation
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i guess was to hear that there was
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already too much doors in Jane's
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Addiction and to just add more doors
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like it's just that it's just everything
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about jane's addiction with that sounds
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like my Guantanamo band about my stress
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music well I take this big into the
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floor hit you with some cold water and
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then play this really loud take a little
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it takes them up and caught stealing
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we had a little more breakfast I'll to
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it so all of Perry Farrell's all of like
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the tragedy in perry farrell that he is
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a junkie that he is a freak in a world
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that doesn't accept freaks that he is
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like a sex uh he's like a set was one of
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the second people that we've talked
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about the goth expand person he's got a
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pen person and so in inherently going to
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be unhappy
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the rest of his life because it's just
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it's can't be a bad person and find and
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no true happiness all of that is gone
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it's a race because the singer of this
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new band is 22 and has no pain and then
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add more doors
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uh-huh and i'm just i'm driving in my
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car i'm like who I i mean i don't blame
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the person that signed it I don't blame
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the label that's putting it out because
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that is the state of music today it is
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that I heard that owl city song on the
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radio and I did that she's amber I was
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like all right this sounds like that I
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guess right it was our city it was Al
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it sounds exactly like you like a song
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the Postal Service would probably not
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put out us
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that's exactly right that's something
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that the Postal Service would have
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rejected
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yep that Ben would never have done and
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yet all of his vocal mannerisms are
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there but none of his vocal none of the
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local characters that are the qualities
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none of the yet none of the things that
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make been an interesting or quirky
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vocalist it's all been smoothed out it's
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all been Pro Tools the way and shaved
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down and yet there isn't any new there's
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no new creative information
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it doesn't sound like an evolution of it
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it's just a it's just a polished it's
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like all the good parts are are smoothed
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off and so when I'm thinking about the
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music that I'm trying to make now which
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is like unlike Michael Jackson in 1982 I
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mean this is that this is what's crazy
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about that trying to think about about
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the Beatles and 64 five michael jackson
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in 1980-81 were they aware that they
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were like in
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such like kinetic communication with
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their time that they were like that they
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were one step ahead but not two steps
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ahead from their moments or were they
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thinking to themselves
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we are so far out right now we are so
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far out and it was just that it's just
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that we were ready for it and the first
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time the first time we heard it we were
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like what is this crazy music but by the
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fifth time it was it the world had
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changed you know what I mean like that
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yeah I don't know the answer but I'm
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trying to figure it out i think was
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Michael Jackson I'm I mean just knowing
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what we know and kind of reverse
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engineering and I think he wasn't
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thinking of it that way you don't think
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he was thinking like I'm gonna shake
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I don't know he just strikes me as a guy
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like is weird like I was like he seems
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really admirable especially at that age
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where like he just seemed like he seems
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like he was such a creative like
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wackadoodle guy like I just watching
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people dance and he wasn't yeah really
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dedicated to the craft of making a you
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know in the same of appeals were making
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music at a time when a lot of people
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thought rock'n'roll was dead even then I
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mean Michael Jackson comes out even
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without off-the-wall comes out with like
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the greatest disco album of all time
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when disco.is.dead not the greatest but
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it's definitely one of the most creative
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and like that that album off the wall
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I think off-the-wall you know because it
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wasn't quite as ambitious i think it in
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some ways is a it's an idea of things
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thriller sounds updated in some ways is
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the problem interesting you and I see
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you and I go around these production
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things but the songs I mean you think
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about what you have like six seven
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singles from that record something like
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that i mean you know every song on that
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yes so i don't know i mean i added the
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the problem seems to come later on in a
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career when somebody following your
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the problem seems to come later in a
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career where somebody thinks that it's
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time to really think it's where you are
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but again how do i get ahead of the
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curve but whatever I do it's not
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Rockettes not roll em but thats and you
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know and that's why sometimes like every
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time there's a new paul mccartney thing
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I kind of make that noise I exhale and I
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go home there's gonna be probably
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something good here but like how could
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he be like a 70 year old guy and still
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not know how to balance a song just
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don't I mean like I I feel like I kept
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it as long as good as public art me
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these days like these there's gotta be
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some balance to it there has to be
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something more to it than just the
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reiteration or a list or or just the
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same theme
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this is going to be some tension is
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gonna be at 95 upon the show haha and
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just enjoy yourself
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who let the madness in the music it to
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you after is a bad huh haha little the
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wall without of all and that you
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couldn't sing that ok where's your
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baseline ready you do nothing dude
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getting do like how great is that
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baseline it is I mean their tremendous
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bass line cementless that I love you and
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the thing is he's talking about Linda
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and I can listen to the songs like I
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think I think that music was the music
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of my youth and so I had no awareness of
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Linda really or like Linda represented
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nothing to me then so I have that
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sympathy for them because it's the bit
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that's the songs of my childhood but the
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overlay my my adult overlay of like paul
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and linda with their simpering romance
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and they're like are just picturing them
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vegetarian meals are just just
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canoodling together on there like fake
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sheepskin rug Paul playing I love you to
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her and her I I don't know what clasping
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her hands under her chin with cartoon
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hearts floating around here even think
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he turned down in the mix I mean what I
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what like Linda is such a cipher to me I
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i have no sense of her
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but I believe I I have to say I really
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believe that they thought that it
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matters this is a really dumb thing to
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say but i think they really loved each
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Lou except i have known enough people
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who became famous in their early
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twenties to know that it destroys
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humanity to be to be famous before the
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age of 28 is a burden as a psychological
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burden on a person that that handicaps
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their emotional development and Paul
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McCartney was of the most famous of all
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people and clearly an emotionally
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handicapped person anyway so although i
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do believe that he and Linda love each
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loved each other because that is the
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story that i have been told by them
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I cannot imagine paul mccartney loving
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really because of his humanity being
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crushed because yes because because he
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sat in that hotel room in new york city
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after the ed sullivan show with a cold
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right didn't have a cold butter now he
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had a cold I think and the streets
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around the hotel were thronging with
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screaming girls and although he was
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sitting in bed with the with an ice pack
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on his head and a thermometer his mouth
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disease clipart there were like four
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photographers in the room but he
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couldn't even be sick without right
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without life magazine janji no did they
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break up in 1970 the beatles yeah yeah
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60 70 71 like that
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no nose before 71 and 72 McCartney
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turned 28
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but that your base and turn it up but i
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remember duff mckagan was rapidly when
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he first started writing for the Seattle
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Weekly he was also going to seattle you
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getting his degree i think or maybe even
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a master's degree i'm not sure but he
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was taking classes he was writing this
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column for the weekly just started and
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you know I feel like Duff Duff was in
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rock and roll from the very beginning
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like his life right he was in bands from
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14 on he was in guns and roses and then
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he he kind of hit this there was this
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period of his life where gnr was over he
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was recovering from the drugs and
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everything and there was that there was
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a kind of period of quiet in Duff's life
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where he was able to say like go back to
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college and like i'm going to write for
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the Seattle Weekly and like you know
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kind of take another stab at life from
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from like what I think is an amazingly
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humble place can you imagine like
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another guy with Tufts stature showing
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up for class at Seattle you like a
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little kind of Jesuit college in the
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middle of the city like he he went to
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class and SAT there with his epic
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presumably not at leather pants and
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taking like sociology 101 or whatever I
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mean very humble attempt at really I
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can't imagine that is what makes it so
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interesting is because when he's you
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know I i realize that he's a guy who had
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a life before and after and raised in
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your your your powers of the many sounds
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like I'm like I'm amazing weirdly
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down-to-earth god I mean especially
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given what his body's been through but
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no I can't because I picture it being
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like a second life sketch or somebody
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there's a headlight somewhere about a
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guy from Guns and Roses goes to college
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and that's going to be like a terrible
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sketch where there's a guy with a
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bandana
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you know with his base later on the task
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more cowbell
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yeah well and and i think it was just
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enough time had passed that most of the
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students in his class were not really i
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mean they had heard of guns and roses
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but it wasn't like he was in class with
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a bunch of people that were pawing at
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him but anyway in at during this process
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he forms velvet revolver and so he's at
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one point he tells the story where he's
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in a hotel in rio de janeiro and he's
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trying to finish his term paper so he's
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up in the hotel on the 40th floor
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whatever typing his term paper for his
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his class at Seattle you but he can't
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concentrate because 200,000 people are
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chanting his name thronging the streets
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because they just played rock in rio for
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a million-plus people and so he got you
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know he goes to the window and he looks
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down in the streets around so tell all
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barricaded and all these brazilian fans
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are like chanting and screaming that he
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can hear it on the 20th floor or
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something and he and he just wishes that
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they would be quiet so that he can
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finish his term paper thanks and like
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come on
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where do you where do you start
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you know but how to get people
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sympathetic about that situation I think
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translate stuff it's it's it's really a
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check your privilege situation but but
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imagine paul mccartney going back to
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college in nineteen seventy people I
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believe would go a little something I in
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back to call me i'm beautiful setting at
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the desk
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I got to correct something for another
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moment caused by Moloch entire Act
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I came out making 77 I don't think only
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late slate later last two years after
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bohemian rhapsody don't know what I was
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thinking
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no I think it is the I think it is the
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one of the biggest or Lord I'm according
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to wikipedia which is never wrong right
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wing's is 1996 1999 77 release Moloch
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entire is one of the all-time
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best-selling singles in the UK great
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song to sing along the big sing along
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sing alone that's right it's like my
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time like that one by Chumbawamba yeah
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that's yeah that's right Macarena
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Macarena
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yeah it knocked down and get nice stuff
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who let the dogs out ah loo
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I love you know although i also like
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listen to what the man said I had that
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on a 45 to very good song but i just-i
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come back to jet anybody wants talking
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about Paul McCartney they get through
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jet exhibit a the lyrics of jet jet is a
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incredible pops off incredible but you
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just have to you just parse those lyrics
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for me and tell me what that song is
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about and tell me that the lyrics of
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that song are not indicative of a hey of
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of a raat ki smoke like a lot of pot i
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think paul mccartney probably smoked a
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lot of parts okay if you listen to Paul
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tell it
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mhm it wasn't John his mother holding it
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for a friend
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the ball was smoking pot and going to
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art galleries when the rest of those
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guys all back then now back then this is
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the story that everything you and I know
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that everybody should know you know all
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tomorrow never knows huh that's all John
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nah i am the walrus that's all John
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right all right
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wrong and wrong on know it's it's it's
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very frustrating and you know we've been
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threatening since very early on and the
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seven years we've been doing the show
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we've been threatening to have our Paul
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McCartney episode because as much as he
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is a frustrating character the band that
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they would not have been that band
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I mean he
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yeah he didn't even play the
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rickenbacker bass that long and yet the
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rickenbacker bass forever partner will
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heat the hot air base of course that
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like the hot air base was the is that
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like early Beatles the super I mean no
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one else who's gonna play off who's
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going to play often but violin bass now
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you'd have to be a real thing looks like
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it was a dare
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yeah right it is so inextricably paul
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mccartney but the but for me the
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rickenbacker bass that he's that he
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started playing at the end and then
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played in wings the rickenbacker bass
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which admittedly get ely made a run at
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having the rickenbacker bass be his
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signature instrument but I mean I still
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think the early days of the long winters
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Eric played a rickenbacker bass that was
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given to me by Aaron huffman of harvey
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danger and I gave it to Eric it was the
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I think the at the time not only the
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most expensive thing that Eric owned a
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little expensive thing he'd ever touched
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the most expensive thing he had not only
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ever touched but like I gave it to him
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for free
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I didn't just give it to him I gave it
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to him for free
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Wow and it was like I think it was like
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somebody handed him Excalibur didn't
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even have to port from the stone eyes
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that look at it as a case that's right
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and this this rickenbacker bass and Eric
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playing that rickenbacker bass I swear
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to you it was all I was just trying to I
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was trying to capture some of that
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Stardust of paul mccartney and and this
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was the way that I this is the closest
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that i could come like Aaron hoffman had
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30 basis
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but the African bakr base was the one
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that I zoomed in on and you know Aaron
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obviously very generous guy
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and at that time I you know I think
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about this a lot
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the long winters are such a debt of
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gratitude to harvey danger because they
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let us use their practice space they let
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us use their van
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Aaron gave us our base like we we
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couldn't have we couldn't even gotten
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out of the starting gate if Harvey
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danger hadn't just sort of handed us the
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key and said reactor had used the you
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know use our PA andar big practice space
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in our instruments i should write them a
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thank-you note
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yeah aaron i mean actually visit with
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him just a little bit but if they strike
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me as very nice man
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no they're pricks yeah you you get that
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when you play keys with them
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yeah well all people in music or are
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desperately broken except for me and
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definitely Kagan yeah alright maybe you
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can help you with your songs and quincy
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jones and quincy jones god bless them
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for you get him to produce you wouldn't
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be something you should go to him we
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should pitch my baseline well he's 90
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years old now
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alright well or something close to that
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i'm not sure that he would i'm not sure
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that he would know
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although maybe you know maybe Quincy it
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would be expensive that are talked about
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the time I had dinner with the Alan
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Partridge helpful haha so Alan Partridge
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came to Seattle to LA I think Alan
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Partridge is a TV character
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oh yeah no really thinking about how
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valid first organized religion pink
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floyd alan parsons that's right Alan
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Parsons Project not the Partridge
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project
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lam cai the we are in this guy so that's
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pretty good
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mmm i can be yes oh yes it does that
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once I night entertainment don't think
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that one song playing sports and sports
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yeah they I thought that they were great
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sounding musical act some amazing you
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know he doesn't sing those songs he has
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the analyst his people
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yeah but anyway so I'm sitting next so
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so he comes to seattle he's given to
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talk about recording a dark side of the
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moon and you know he worked on some
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Beatles records too
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he's finally finally agreed to step out
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and finally talked about that haha you
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know you need Alan Partridge he was 17
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or something when know what they were
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making the right out right he didn't
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work out the window
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I think you did yeah anyway so but you
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have produced is produced Dark Side of
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the Moon and you know right everybody
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wants to know like about the tape loop
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on money and he was he was very generous
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about talking about that stuff but then
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afterwards a small group of us go out to
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dinner and we arrived at the restaurant
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and it isn't really a small group
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there's like 20 people who want to have
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dinner with alan parsons and we show up
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and you know he and I had been kind of
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talking at the cocktail party beforehand
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and he was very much like we talked for
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a few minutes and then he candis
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basically said right
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I've talked to you now I'm going to turn
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and talk to the next person because I
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this is what I have to do now before i
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go back to the hotel i have to give each
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person two minutes of talking and you
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have exhausted your two minutes and I
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was like oh I'm fine with that
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nice meeting you but he was already
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talking to the next person you know
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instance say
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you're also we gonna tape loop over cash
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register and he's you know he's he's
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like it
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drinking red wine and he's having a good
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time anyway we get to the restaurant and
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it's it's a long table so not a
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situation where Alan Parsons can talk to
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everyone at dinner
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it's just a very long table and he
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rather than sit at the head of the table
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moves down to the to the middle of the
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table sort of like where Jesus with
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priceline last semester and so he puts
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his hand on the back of a chair and the
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other 19 people at the event all sort of
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freeze it's like a musical chairs write
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the music has stopped everybody freezes
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Alan Parsons has chosen a chair now what
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now where do you sit and there's this
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pregnant five seconds where no one knows
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what to do
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no one's going to take it no one's going
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to sit down at the end where they can't
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talk to him but nobody wants to sit
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directly across from him or and his wife
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is there with them
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no one knows what to do and so I said
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well how many opportunities
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I mean whatever the social faux pas
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there are people here at this event who
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who should sit next to alan parsons but
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who gives a fuck
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in the chair next to his wife his wife
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that's right back and then and then
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having sat down now everybody else has
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to school you know like I i got the
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catbird seat so everybody else scrambles
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to get like chairs at least in earshot
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of him and he sits down in his chair he
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looks over at me and he basically i
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don't remember exactly what he said but
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he basically said oh you well you know
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you manage to get to
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there you manage to sit there i mean i
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think he was hoping that it would be a
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beautiful lady or maybe it would be
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someone famous but it was me and so I
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spent the whole evening basically just
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chatting with him and everyone else
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around us like struggling like like EF
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terrible setup for a one-person based
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dinner it was the worst and a loud noisy
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restaurant and everybody's leaving in
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in a lot of ways it was great it was
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great although no one betrayed him as
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far as i know but at one point I said so
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what if i asked you to produce one of my
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records and he said money for the right
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amount of money i will produce your
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record but it is a question of money and
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I said yes money to do you have to do
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babe him boom boom boom doing to Jean to
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do but it's still I still think that I
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still think about putting together
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enough cash like to make an offer on
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Alan Parsons coming out of retirement
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and recording an album for me
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why would you do that what would it cost
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I just a waste of time it would cost
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fifty to a hundred and fifty thousand
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dollars it would be obscene i'm guessing
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what do you think
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but yes yeah as well that's a pretty
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wide range but I think well I don't
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think it's gonna cost you less than 50
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know it won't cost less than 50 and I
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think 50 it's it's one of those like
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producing a record is is one of those
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like what do you mean seven days right
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it will be all engineered you just send
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him a can or not look like alan moore
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look at it was a very handsome man
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well he was now
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it looks like a he looks like someone
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basically animated a volcano
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I love you did or did you do to my
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pocket really overdo the horn
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arrangements to kidney i see i am of the
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opinion that you cannot overdo a horror
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and you know i love the horn
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arrangements you you like you said
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that's when you turn into a real bad
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right when you get the horns showing up
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that's when you know you're in a band
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right you said this I and I and I firmly
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believe I mean have you seen have you
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seen the footage of the stacks tour like
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England 1960 now Chanel I'd love to
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it sits on youtube it's all the stacks
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artists at the time like a package to
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her kind of thing as a package tour with
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duck done with basically Booker T and
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the MG's right as the band and then
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every singer salmon Dave a butt like
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this is that like that steep proper that
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that kind of Korea that's that's the
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game Muscle Shoals guys and then every
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singer comes out and does their you know
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224 signature number can you imagine
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that and and it's a wonder why I could
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only was England it might have been
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it's some kind of scene where the
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audience is I mean it's worth watching
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just to see how beautiful everybody was
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in 1966 you know like everybody's got
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the coolest clothes and the coolest dumb
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hair and their little beatnik beards and
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their chunky classes and they're so
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excited
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to see Marvin Gaye and its Jets it's a
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fantastic but you know but musically
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it's fantastic to but one of the amazing
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things about this show is that they've
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got three horn players i got to
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saxophone trumpet and another saxophone
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and these three guys are doing all the
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horn arrangements of all that stacks
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stuff and it's really all you need / you
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get the that you know like on the record
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you probably had 14 horns in there but
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really when that trumpet comes on like
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one trumpet does a lot of heavy lifting
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for it in terms of like the emotional
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impact even if you just got a trumpet
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and like I'm making it again what a
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tenor sax those two together could fill
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a lot of space
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really dynamite yeah and I I mean I feel
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like the trumpet because of the because
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of the whole elephant six neutral milk
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hotel like bolero trumpet thing that
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happened there was a while they're indie
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rock early days for me early two
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thousands where the trumpet was the the
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equivalent of the of the head and the
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heart banjo or the you know what I mean
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like the band that the mumford and sons
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banjo is now used on used by every pop
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and over and I really felt in 2001 the
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neutral milk hotel trumpet was the was
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the signifier and I so I was shy to use
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it myself because it was so all the way
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they would do it i'm thinking if not
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going to get that the song against sex
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song with the pic trombone on my kind of
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stuff but all that you'd like you're
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talking about like airplane of the sea
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like an thetic stuff but you but you
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used it like on shoot scared straight
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scared straight like that that's what
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are the songs not pretend to fall that
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horse I'm scared straight to me is like
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the big motown number right
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yeah uh let's see what else has horn
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well you know a blue diamonds has french
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horn which is super weapon of every of
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every great pop song young French horn
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young you got John Entwistle mm-hmm
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oh that's beautiful the guy the guy
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played on my hydrangeas southern it's a
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cult that song armor common thing and
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something that I don't song from old
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entire no I am NOT singing now anyway
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French horn very difficult issue until
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you got a fist it and it's also
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embouchure yeah that I couldn't find at
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the time I could not find a young person
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to play the French horn and so I get
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somebody to speak Navajo that's right i
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couldn't find a code talker or no you're
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gonna have a hard time getting up one so
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i actually had to use a music teacher
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high school music teacher that played
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the French horn since that time now
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now a lot of kids are playing the French
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or is that a fact
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what if you had a role in that yeah well
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you know a lot of people after after
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Baker Street came out the saxophone
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regain my popularity i love that you
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notice the level the same time with your
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the cat member of al Stewart em on and
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thumb that the God knew the you know I
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those songs are inextricably linked John
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but that's the second time i've used
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inextricable in this podcast and I'm not
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going to use it and cut it out said you
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know it's one of those things where you
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use a word that is that's just a bit
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that pokes out a little bit i know I i
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consider is being inextricably linked to
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those boys are snapshots in time for me
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buddy but you know what they're
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connected to for me the television show
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taxi what really don't i don't know why
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tax i just think being a lonely preteen
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taxi and well you know what is lonelier
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about being a preteen than watching
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taxis true taxi and Barney Miller dated
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a girl in college that had a bob james
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record straight
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sitting around necking and have the taxi
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song come on haha what i've said i've
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said it before but when you are necking
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with a girl
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yes in a dark room and your CD your
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six-cd changer your bow Bolivar yeah we
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don't hit don't know if it flips over to
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rush you are in but know if you can see
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if you're making out with a girl in your
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60 changes that make which over to John
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Vanderslice is death of an American for
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tracker
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ah but it is like somebody just poured
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cold water over both the right so I
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guess there's a certain are contingent
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that would find that very slippery as a
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well you know what I didn't give the
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girl the chance because I lunged oh
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you're self-conscious at that point
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well because listen I know John
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Vanderslice I love John Vanderslice and
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you sir are no John Vanderslice no i did
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not want to make out with john
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vanderslice like also like like singing
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in a British accent my other ear i have
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one did I want to get
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one did I want to get
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believe haha yeah maybe you don't want
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to make out to your friends see how I
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gotta think about that I gotta think
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about that
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yeah I sleep making up new order oh
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that's good makeup that's good makeout
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music and now i have made out a while
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talking about it hurts honey dripping
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what honey dripper honey drippers great
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makeout music that record grab right
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makeout music and rivers around I've
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been a lot of kids today have never even
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heard on the drama with me ma lo most
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the other 10 good rockin tonight that
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was right the big one that you know that
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basically this is the business of this
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is one of the main problems of my life I
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grew up thinking that my sex life was
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going to be a led zeppelin based
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landscape soundtrack center in the in
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that what you envisioned soundtrack
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why's he was thinkin like cashmere
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that's right led zeppelin established
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the baseline for what I imagined being a
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fully adult person was going to be like
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it you know i'm going to reach i'm going
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to reach the the age of of of manhood
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and i'm going to enter into this led
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zeppelin universe where basically i am
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having sex on an airplane while all of
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my friends are codeine that's so cool
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and the airplane is going to be taking
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me to have manners mansion i'm going to
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be having sex on an airplane with
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somebody that I don't even know the
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plane might be taking you someplace like
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I don't know where montserrat is that's
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why I want to be having sex on a plane
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that's going there right so so anyway
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the language of my early sex life was
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encoded in this looking led in Led
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Zeppelin runes
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and then the moment I arrived at my
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sexual maturity suddenly the world was
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written in Atlantis Morissette rooms it
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was that late
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well I'm an ironic i'm very shifted to
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say stop right there
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