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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 98: "A Mastiff of Spinach"

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hey John I Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► oh it's so early yeah it's really early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/12">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► it's early i I've never seen you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/17">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► your phone so early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► I don't think well they say sick I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/22">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► god I have a kind of sickness that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► that is a drug sickness who i am on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/33">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► third day of caffeine withdrawal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/41">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► oh my god and hear the real girl and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/45">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► oh no i woke up at seven in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► with shippers and I feel like I was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► car wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/59">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► I feel like I feel like I rolled a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► that's at every every muscle and joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► in my body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► it's like really really protesting oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/67">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► goodness this is you sure you're up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► no yeah my god you know I like to I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► to get into the center of the pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► explore all I am I am the I'm the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► seven blind men describing an elephant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► and pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/86">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► Wow uh so when was the last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/90">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► quit caffeine just cold turkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► well um my gosh i have i've tried to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► down but net I it's been awhile since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► just said I'm not going to have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► caffeine at all this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► yeah and I its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► I've done in the past and its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/119">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► hard and a little crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► are you feeling any psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► effects oh yes oh very irritated i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► very irritated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► it's the thing is it's a i like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► well documented i guess but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/140">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► all kinds of effects you know it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► be with caffeine to begin with even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► the best day is a balance even when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► go pro still got you have good days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► bad days and what's what's funny to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► about caffeine is the like the effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► of having too much coffee can be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► similar to the effects of having no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► coffee but minus the energy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► irritability little bit little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► headache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/170">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah well let me bit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/171">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► I'm a caffeine ranger and I i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► caffeine to explore all the universes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► and I i have quit a few times over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/182">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► years and I and I know what's in store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► you know when I say like okay like i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► got i've been to the edge and I steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► student look down and I need to cut it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/195">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► need to cut it out and I and i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► looking forward to like a solid three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► days of gotten it out and each day has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► its phases and the you'd you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► that by the third day it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► tapering off but really the third days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► the is the toughest one for me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► on day four like you you you walk out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► into the clear like you're right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► out into the day again but but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► know whether it's my age or whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► was using come i was using a well over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► the prescribed dosages of of Captain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► a long time but I fucked really woke up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► in a title match with with my nerve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/243">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► ending this but I'm laughing but I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► sorry I I know what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► I mean there's a reason that excedrin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► puts caffeine in with the aspirin in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/255">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► that that's what they recommend when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► got a migraine because i think it fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► your capillaries or whatever but it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► it definitely can help you get rid of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► headache and if you don't have it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► little fella just close right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► yeah yeah whoo so can we explore this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/270">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► little bit you pulled up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► three-legged stool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► yeah absolutely you're sitting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/277">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► center of it all the lights are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► oh how well so this caffeine withdrawal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/282">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► is a part it's a component of a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/289">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► project a larger three-day project which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► is that I am honored choose fast thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/296">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► which i find ridiculous on its pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► through the tickets have you been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► Family Circle no wednesday was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/309">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► about that even the limit is the lemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► juice recoup alot i have no idea why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► what the point of it is but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► suggested to me and I said oh sure i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► do a three day juice fast once i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► juice unless I mean let's just let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► start with an obvious one you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► working on your body you got some body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► work and and you enjoy a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► that's right you're not against juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► no I dived i was reading it i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► reading Martha Stewart's living about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► all the healthy juices that you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► from your from your orchards and I i own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/345">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► a juicer because at one point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/350">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► long winters did did some some extensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► touring with the band keen and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► always had a juicer in there backstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/359">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► area and we would get we would get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► of these like long brutal drives across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/365">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► Europe and we would roll into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► stadium shows and there would be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► juicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► waiting as soon as we got out of the van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► and we would make these complex chooses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► with ginger and lemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► we just felt like superstars and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► I got done with that too i was like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► gonna get a juicer that's how and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► how a man lives if you are if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/389">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► real like operator if you're a guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► is that knows how to tie a tie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► should have a juicer at your house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► make you feel vital it just fills you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► with nutrients it goes you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► nutrients well or it fills you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► sugar water I mean I what I can't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► how about juices like so I'm making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► these juices and they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► complicated i went to the store I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► all this spinach and kale and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/415">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► carrots and move ginger and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► garlic and basil and all this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► beets beet green definitely miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► coffee at all that sounds wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► well and I'm so I'm throwing it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► looks legit she could pick up the day at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► we kick off the day with some hot lemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► hmm now that the pipes movement m and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/439">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► I'm better but I'm throwing this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► into the juicer i'm watching all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► actual food just get shunted off into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► the garbage bag and what's left is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► concentrated like purple sugar water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► basically and I it's like the only bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► it's like build you put it i mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► want to make spinach juice it takes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► extraordinary amount of spinach to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► a tiny little you know you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► cook spinach it just all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► disappears but when you don't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► I mean that doesn't it take like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► like a whole giant basket to make like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► half a cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► yeah I put in the equivalent of what of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► a mastiff into the juicers like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/480">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► mastiff of it a basket of spinach and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/484">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► and yeah it produces like 22 ounces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► wheatgrass juice that's like six bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► and I go okay i mean i guess that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► getting some but but but i'm really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► getting much out of it i mean it's i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► probably it's probably what 600 calories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► a day of of juice just because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► part of the part of the juice fast part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► of why it works is that it's so fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► complicated to make the juice and clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► the juicer you don't want to do it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► than a couple of times a day and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► you're basically just you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► starving yourself and taking some sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► water in the interim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► you're not gonna believe the timing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► this here you're not going to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► how simpatico it makes me because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► need you texted me this morning and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► was like obviously someone attacks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► two counts because he's using his phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► at something like eight in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► and i was i was sleeping in a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► and i have recently been awakened by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► horrific almost medieval grinding sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► coming from our kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► oh because my my family had decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► make some juices this morning why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► real real loud isn't always very loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that machine is a it's a plant killer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► is it takes them right out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► it's phyto killer int a and anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► point being that then my the the 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► punch was then my daughter came in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► a small glass of like a caramel colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/571">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► liquid and she goes drink this and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► like I heard the noise i'm not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► that but just like no drink it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► really good and had a little her other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► 14 little straws in it and it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/591">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► it was it was well i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► primary was there are some spinach and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► there was some carrots and but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► really tasted like celery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► oh that's right they say celery is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► juice ruin our oh is that right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► good to hack yeah you put any put celery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► of any juice and it just ruins because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► it makes it taste like somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► cilantro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► right exactly yes so I'm feeling it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► you I I and I said really i said Elinor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► that's terrible that's an awful thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► put in my mouth while still laying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► bed until spilled on the bed background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► but and so so what I mean okay seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/623">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► though what what led you did you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► decide it was just a fun project or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► said yeah yeah just my project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► yeah there's no that you know I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► wall when I think back to the the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► that i decided i was going to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► eating wheat and sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► I honestly even a day later could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► remember what I was what was motivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► me you know like I don't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► idea that came into my head and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/653">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► usually remember my motivations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► looking back I was like I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► why i decided to do this what I'm what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► is going on with me and it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► with this juice fast i cannot i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► tell you how the idea got lodged in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► brain I think I read something on and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/668">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► I think it was a date with something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► many terrible projects start reading by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► running on an airplane i think i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► reading at the in-flight magazine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► then i was reading and then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► something snarky in The New Yorker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► it just got this idea going like juices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► huh juices maybe New York magazine had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► an article about a guy who was running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► gym that also was a juicer and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► got in there just the worm got in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► and all of a sudden Here I am three days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► into a juice fast and everything every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► joint in my body is aching and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/710">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► want is I mean name of food I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► yeah but what I have available to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► like beaches basically it seems like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/720">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► of those things that they would do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► you know i don't know like in the maze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► in Ireland like this some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/728">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► prison thing like when they give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► the punishment loaf like they were put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► on a juice diet because i was just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► would have to be honest with you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► launch want to applaud you and if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► sounds like it could be really good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/738">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► you but I would find it so hard to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► forward to anything in life if I knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► was going to be a day filled with juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► well this is the thing when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► when you stop eating food you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► how many of your projects how many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► the reasons that you're going out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/755">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you have the how many come to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► that the like pylons that demarcate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/757">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► obstacle course of your day are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► food it's like what do you want to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► don't know what's going downtown well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► what should we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► well let's go to that restaurant well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50 ◼   ► we're not eating food we're eating i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► drinking juice right now I'm sorry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► say oh well we could go to that smoothie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► yeah but those are smoothies they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► juice really like already i'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► are the most boring person alive i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► mislike it was bad enough when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► he couldn't have french fries or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► something but now I mean it's I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► gonna say it's like being on a salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► dressing diet but it's not it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► it's not even I I could see myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► waking up in the morning go I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► nice cup of like a couple shots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► Thousand Island could get me going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► yeah but it's all it's a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► it'sit's it's pretty costly too i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► it is as well so I was so the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► 22 days into my juice fast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► presidents of the united states of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► america played their annual president's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► day concert here in Seattle and I got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► with them and sang sang a song is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► their new record with them and so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► up and sang songs and then they then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► they launched into new girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► well so what we get done singing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► song like yeah that was great and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► they just like launched into new girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► and they're only go go do it do it sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► it sing it and so we saying new girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/838">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► front of their sold-out crowd which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► super fun and then we get off the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/844">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► we're hanging out backstage and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► oh man I thought that was really amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► but I'm a little bit freaked out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► little bit tweaking right now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► i'm i'm on a juice fast when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► of that guy's and Chris blue as a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/860">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► complicated theory about food and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► like well you know actually juices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► garbage food because it was you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► most of those most of those foods were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► developed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► by human intervention and we've we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► robbed all of our foods of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► nutrients over the course of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► millennium is he a million conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► theorist started this he tried to he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► he's a knowledgeable eating well guy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► chris is both things he is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► knowledgeable and you know and also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► he goes on it goes on intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/900">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► journeys where he discovers a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► and then it becomes kind of like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► tense central to his his way of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/910">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► for example again like nutrition buff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► yeah he ratings read some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► books and now he's really interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► in the topic but then Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► fence-sitting are your life good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► Jason been sitting on the couch says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► yeah well you know i i've done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► seven-day Master Cleanse which is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► pooping 17 days of lemon and cayenne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/935">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► pepper but i think it's just lemon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► and molasses maybe in the hot water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/943">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► not no he said not hot water room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/950">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► I'm like seven days of and he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► yeah yeah by the fourth day you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► really you're here really see and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► seeing dragons you know and you're and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► yeah he you know he talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► poop for a little while and I i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► mean certainly I was impressed that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► three day juice fast got one up so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► i was i was there was the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► i've even gone out in public and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► already just got Smackdown like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► like he didn't even eating and get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► high five for electronic bean and cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► fast 03 juice fast that's cute you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► should try seven-day Master Cleanse we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/986">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► just drink lemon water so it was a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/987">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► was a little bit like I went home tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► between my legs but I stuck with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► juice fast I didn't go home and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► drinking lemon water molasses and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► didn't have a hamburger either so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► it is day three and I've got this class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► here that is full of juice and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► it's really it's it's bright red is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► color of cows blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► mm it's like I'm drinking a glass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► cows blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► well you know I think about a nutty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► system is that sometimes he just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► stick with the nutty system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► yes thank you hello that's it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► know i mean the thing is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► overthink it i mean with any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► diet or anything like that i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► the way two if by succeed we mean make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► it through the amount of time that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► say we're going to do it and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► that same I mean you're gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► for months probably but if you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► introduced 45 days seven days something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► like that then I think you gotta it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► helps me anyway to get to a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► I'm not thinking about it too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► I'm not you know I'm doing what I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► do but to make it sustainable even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► more than two or three days even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► than a day we have to get to someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► where it's just kind of routine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► you're like well this thing I'm doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► don't know what makes sense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► Jason Finn has given me some things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► think about but i'm going to just stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► with this and do this thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► maybe not maybe another time i'll do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► lemon diet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► well that's exactly right and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► amazing about this is that the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► effects that usually when I quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► caffeine it is that I get super sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► like that's how I quit really honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► that's your body responds to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► things that's how I quit drinking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► it's how I quit smoking cigarettes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► how I like and most my relationships I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► get really sick and I just go off into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► corner to die and then when I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► come back I'm phoenix rising from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► ashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► I was going to say it's like your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► has to burn itself down so it can rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► from its own ashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► that's right and so what this what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► happening right now is this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► caffeine withdrawal is just a byproduct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► of it but but honestly the first thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► thought about when somebody said three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► day juice fast I was like ooh that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► be a tough caffeine burn you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► whatever else was going on no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► hungry where he your your knees would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► hurt your fingernails would hurt but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► when it's over then I'm then I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► accomplished this what is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► pretty daunting task which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► caffeine withdrawal and then I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► like try and stay off of the coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► which is actually a better way to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► it really is what I'm not when I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► drink the coffee i am you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► you're living in the light so so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► you're going to go through all this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► just don't want to repeat what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► saying but just so I understand you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► gonna try and stick with us for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► the juice thing is a temporary thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► you'll enjoy you will enjoy your many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► blood-red juices for a while to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► through it but you're thinking you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► probably having gone through this dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► night of the soul with coffee you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► going to try and just stay off it after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► yeah i think so for a while at the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► time yeah because I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► dependency it's the it's the overarching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► theme of my life I cannot abide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► dependence and I am dependent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► caffeine what makes me uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► I think arguably I don't know in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► cultures I think that like historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► like smoking cigarettes and drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► it's more than something that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► does it's kind of like almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► default like you described with food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06 ◼   ► like what you want to do well let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► meet its kind of like just the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► that you do and if you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► to do you have a cup of coffee or smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► cigarette and you don't notice how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► that becomes the default not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► say one way or another good bad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► otherwise but you know with coffee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► don't notice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► I mean once it's gone you really notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► how often you had that little hankering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► and then just knowing you can't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► makes it's so much worse and weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► wear if I'm trying to stop something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► like long lines of a coffee which I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► do sometimes you're trying to cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► but now but especially from stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► I'll i will want coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► more than anything in the world and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► would even want coffee before I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► want coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► uh-huh like the idea of waking up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► going like oh this is my first day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► without coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► that's all I'm gonna think about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► you know or I remember especially when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► was doing the you know the Atkins diet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► like I never wanted french fries so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► in my entire life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► I go like a go-to place and I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► giant and really honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► physiologically completely satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► like big bacon burger with no bun with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► lettuce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► yeah i mean that's all the food a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► needs throughout its like you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► talking about like you how can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► state without noodles it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► like why would you not have noodles with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► your steak is just a thing you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► is a gentleman but like and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► know you can't have that it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► strange how your brain at least my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► can cook up this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► oh I guess anxiety or or kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► unease about about the possibility that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► i can't have that it makes me feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► oh it's a profound anxiety and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► the this is the this is the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► mind game of quitting all drugs is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► the it isn't really the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► addiction that defeats you it is them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► it's that anxiousness that comes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► your mind that says I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► have another french fry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► I can't live like this right like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► what you do with your time right if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► spend if you spend a third or half your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► day drinking and then you don't like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► would you do to fill that time you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► suddenly go and start volunteering I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► mean it's a lot of time to fill well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► you and you can only I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► conversation last night with a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► the middle-aged guy let's say kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► this one it's kind of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► well I should preface this by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► that I went to see miley cyrus last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► night was she performing yes I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► see a Miley Cyrus concert last night at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► the tacoma dome because i got an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► from a friend of mine who is working at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► a sort of a high level in her production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► and he said you'll never guess what i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► doing now I'm doing you know X for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► production of this Miley Cyrus concert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► do you want to come and i said yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► will come and see this my Miley Cyrus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► concert because I think mainly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► everything that I had everybody every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► little post-it note in my head that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► had about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► Cyrus was negative like I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► like Miley Cyrus is just as a thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► didn't like hannah montana didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► that all you think it was catchy i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► well I didn't know anything about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► it's intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► I just instinctively didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► because when i go into thrift stores i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► see these little plastic guitar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► have hannah montana stickers on them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► I go oh that's garbage and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► I liked Billy Ray Cyrus although i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► know what that sounds like either but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► don't like what it represents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► even though i don't really know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► represents I just don't like it i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► like it i didn't like his haircut I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► didn't like that brand of what i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► is that brand of country music people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► get using that phrase boot scoot it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► me uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► I don't like that boot scoot I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► wanna hear that now and so Hannah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► Montana disney creation just kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► know it's not like i hate it i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► don't like it I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► about it I don't like it I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► say about the evidence mounts that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► I'm not seeking out information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► this enterprise but every new as you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► post-it note of information about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► is not making me feel positive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► this and that accumulates right it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► it accumulates and then then Oh Miley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► Cyrus is reinventing herself now she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► bad girl well I don't like that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► like that the disney girl is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► reinventing herself as a bad girl i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► dont thats I don't care about it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► it is don't like it and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► performance where she twerked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► finest where she she did a little dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► with the finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► yeah from finger and stuff yeah right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► and she was with the blurred lines guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► yes I didn't even see it i just saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► talked about in the in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► chattering culture it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► uncomfortable watch but I didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► i didn't like the conversation about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► i didn't like the pictures that I saw of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► it it made me uncomfortable so going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► into all of that this friend of mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► like you're not going to believe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► I'm doing right now i'm working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► miley cyrus tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► and i said i will go to this and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► great you got two passes see you at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► show and so I spent the afternoon trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► to get somebody to go with me to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► show and I asked at a handful of friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► that are usually game if I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► see Michael Schenker or if I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► see a monster truck rally or if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► to go to it you know a motocross race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► and all of my like go to show buddies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► were like what no way like it'll be fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► it'll be funny we'll go see my Miley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► Cyrus will be like hilarious and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► were like no action absolutely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► and there was a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► pushback like no I draw the line here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► there's nothing funny about this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► was this like I can go to a Klan rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► or something yeah right like if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► was an end and an increased my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► perception that there was this negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► this kind of knee-jerk negative feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► about her this take on her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► everybody has that increased my desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► to go so that if it was a stormy night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► last night there was a there were a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► of reasons why it's a you know 45 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► to tacoma lot of reasons why i normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► would have said i'm not sure i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► not going to do this but I was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► you know what I'm going to go see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► Miley Cyrus concert because now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► suspicious i'm suspicious of my own bias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► against this person because I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► it reflected in all these other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► and I'm and I realizing like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► know anything about miley cyrus why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► feel so strongly that this that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► girl who stick your tongue out is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► this thing then isn't just bad it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► it's like a despicable and cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► Anathem yeah right so I get in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► and I Drive down there and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► parking I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► I'm walking to the show and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► sheets of rain and all around me on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► streets are girls dressed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► provocatively and they are all I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► was expecting it to be a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► ten-year-olds and you know like hannah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► montana ten-year-old type of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► and some and some preteens or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► but everybody is 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► everywhere I look everyone is 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► old and they're all dressed like ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► sexy but but it's a sister rainstorm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► cold rain storm so there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► shrieking and soar high heel running to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► get to the venue everybody's covering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► their hair with their plastic bags and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► I'm walking up i'm in my life I'm well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► protected in my raincoat and dad hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► I'm like I am really I'm really wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► here like this is going to be weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► wrong but i did I made no attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► look like Claire that your buyers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► ok by myself actually I was carrying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► walking stick that some bells on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► at first I was worried about that yet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► the Hat notice that a jolly little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► pockets too many Reynolds jingle stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► at me and said ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► so i get to the venue and I walk in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► as she takes the stage and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► giant you know 10-story tall picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► miley cyrus and the mouth opens on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► picture somehow like the the jaw opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► in a kind of almost Monty Python right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► way and a giant tongue unfurls out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► the mouth and reveals itself to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► slide and then miley cyrus appears in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► her own mouth waves to the crowd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► then slides down her own giant tongue up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► to the stage and I'm I'm standing I died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► i'm standing in a wet raincoat watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► this and I'm thinking oh ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► what the fuck is this like that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► that's kind of a bad trip almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► that's a that's a heavy that's a heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► trip if I were if this were 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and and i took my usual regimen of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► pre-concert hallucinogens I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► really freaking out right now that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► heavy image a lot a lot for the mind to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► to take in and she starts walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► the stage and I go looking for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► looking for my seat and I realize I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► a stadium and both the average age and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► the mean age is 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► there's no variation there's no one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► mean that i can see no one that is 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► and no one that is 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► it's like I've never I i can't i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► think of a time that I've ever been in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► room with with the eight to ten thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► twenty year old girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► and they are uh you know really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► digging the show and like i said so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► get to my seat and it turns out I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► have a front-row seat you have reserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► seating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► well yeah the myoga she compu a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► good see ya my friends just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► here here's your tickets and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► I'm front row of the of the seating give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► a beard right now I do have a beer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► and i have sort of went uncut hair i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► wearing my kim jong ill glasses so I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► you know by like north korean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► functionary classes and then every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► aspect of my attire was like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► stern dad they may be checked my jingle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► stick and i watch this entire show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► other amazement at how I mean because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► my first instinct every new thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► came out every new set piece every like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► thing she was pushing my first instinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► was oh my god no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► and then in the course of the tune it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► was revealed that in fact Miley Cyrus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► completely in control of the of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► aspect of her presentation in her career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► she is like overwhelmingly positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► everybody in the place is having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► overwhelmingly positive time and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► takeaway from the show was like this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► the most like in culturally interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► and and dare I say it empowering kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► show of its type that I could ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► remember seeing I don't think there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► ever a Madonna concert that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► this casually empowering you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► and I came out of there just I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► really like now not just with the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► new impression of what Miley Cyrus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► and represents but like a real push back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► on my own cultural instincts now through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► like two and i think i feel i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► the entire culture is the kind of lined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► up to dismiss her and as a result she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► has this she has this real credibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► with 20 year old girls who she is a 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► year old girl and she has a she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► direct line to them and is talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► them directly and they are responding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► her directly and there's no no one else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► is allowed in almost you know her show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► is too dirty for teens so like the katy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► perry show make sure not to be too scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► because she's trying to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► tenants it's very--it's saucy but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► doesn't inhabit that level of like back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► in aliens spectacle right exact sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► it sounds like it like that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► spectacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► it's an absolute spectacle and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► there are there are just way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► vaginas in miley cyrus show then you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► going to see in a normal presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► but they but it's not as that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► elements of set design or just yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► it's just like I mean the beastie boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► come out with the giant set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► inflatable boobs or Mick Jagger's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► bouncing around on a huge blow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► microphone and Miley Cyrus effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► has no there are a lot of blow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► animals in her show and some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► I mean some of the visuals were fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► into the realm of this is that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► trippy trippy shit that is I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► kept coming back to like if I had taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► some mushrooms before the show I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► be weeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► but left process with no coffee well a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► lot of processes with that with no copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► and also this like cultural mash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► japanese anime punk rock metal rap a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► country and YouTube culture photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► little gerbil they're less kind of sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► worker stuff to the right hold total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► pole-dancing seen all the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► every every physical gesture is derived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► either from pole dancing working or uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► mean but like a 21 year olds sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► what sex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► and I mean I would have walked into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► is not a modern 21 year olds idea right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► if you if you would put a microphone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► front of me as I'm walking in there been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► a reporter that was like you there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► the jingle stick c'mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► what are you going into the miley cyrus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► show you know what do you think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► sexy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► I would have said the 21 year old girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► is not sexy she's skinny and she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► know like what you don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► have sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► she's a she's a she's a child but coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► out of that show i'm like 'oh 21 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► olds know how to have sex what was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► 21 year olds I mean they don't uh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► they aren't like all experts at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► they're not she's not a child she's 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you know she's she is a lot older than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► me a pharaoh was when she married stank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► Sinatra so so yeah we're coming so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► coming away from but that but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► but my mind was trying to process this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► torrent of images that was a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► like well basically if you allow me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► fruit juice of all of basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► everything the culture has produced you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► know African drumming uh-uh-uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► enough videos when do Williams uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► know like and it's all happening like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► boom boom boom and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► everybody in the audience knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► every references to but in a way they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► in a way they're much more attuned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► this this tour this torrent of micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► image and you anymore more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► with that like a mirage of iconography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► knowing that is iconography yeah very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► comfortable with it not you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► are not sitting there like borderline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► grand mal seizure like like I was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► also i don't and this is maybe part part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► of what's interesting about it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► like they are trying to parse every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► image and part of what is making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► overwhelming to me as I'm like whoa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► I'm like I'm looking at every image and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► I'm I'm its igniting this part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► brain that has a cultural association [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► with it so I'm like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► oh hey what was that doing there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► Dirk and they're not doing that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► just taking it in as a from a place of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2335">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► like people pure sensation and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► honestly unmitigated joy so the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► the whole event was like a completely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► ironic no irony about it at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► there was no cynicism to it and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► the net result was total positivity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► looking around the room at the eight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► ten thousand twenty year old girls all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► dressed like sex workers you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► that they are not dressing like that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► the male gaze because there are no men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► here who they're dressing like this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► one another for their own pleasure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► in homage to Miley and she's dressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► like that for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► and and the the other amazing thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► not a single person ever looked at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► like I was a creep like every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► person every single girl that made eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► contact with me which was hundreds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► hundreds of them they were they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► smiled and we're like high or excuse me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► or you know like everyone was was polite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► and I and I'd I never for a moment had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► that feeling of like oh my god what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► you doing here like that that was absent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► from the from the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► no booze no like no Satan worship I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► it was I mean unless it's a very complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► and subtle Satan worship that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► everybody has read everybody read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► pamphlet before they went in explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► that this was all in service of Satan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► but I I didn't see it i saw just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► prove you know kind of joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► miley cyrus's joy of being 21 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► rich and able to just do whatever she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► wants i haven't been to many things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► that in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► they were there are much clearer poles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► to almost everything that I've ever gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► to that were about some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► differentiation or you know it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► punk rock shows but I'm maybe flaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► lips i'm trying to think of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23 ◼   ► like when they were first getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► their I'll the spectacles that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► put on a very positive and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► freak friendly kind of stuff but this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► I I'm glad you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► it sounds like this is a good experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► for you it was i'm still I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► chewing on it you know and I and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► not live tweet it as i was walking and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► was like I'm gonna live-tweet the shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► out of this Miley Cyrus concert it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► gonna be really hilarious on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► I got it and immediately I was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► is so over my head that up to live tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► it would be to do it and myself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► disservice like I'm not going to be I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► not going to be out of this experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► i'm going to just be rooted in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► experience and try and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► figure out where it's coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► because when I was that age when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► her age or her fans age I was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► scorpions concepts and punk rock shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► and we were all dressed for one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► to in denim and leather and but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► average eight there was no average age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► and scorpions concert it was me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► let us see burnouts in their fifties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► you're stuck in that are way too young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► sure it was mostly dudes or or almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► entirely dudes but but i love the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► age range and what the Scorpions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► represented what their message was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► mean i was i was forced to ask myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► last night was the Scorpions message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► oh and they just essentially wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► know if you're ready to rock and roll i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► think that's right yeah baby say we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► we were ready I was ready i was ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► rock and roll look at me and I so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► know I was going to shows all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► then and they were profoundly important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► to me and I'm not and and they were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► lot less there was a lot less sensory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► experience that there was last night at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► the Miley Cyrus concert but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► then of course you know I'm reflecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► like on the fact that my own daughter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► not even a member of this generation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► miley cyrus is going to be a mature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► legendary artist by the time my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► daughter is going to her first concerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► like Miley Cyrus will at that point b 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► years into her career and so so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► experience does not even give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► toehold on understanding what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► culture is going to be like and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► degree to which I'm going to need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► at least capable of experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► understanding the culture 15 years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► you're making me think of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► is probably useful for me to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► you know we talked a lot and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► especially talked a lot about this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► the authenticity problem and how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► you know we've talked about and plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► right i mean this whole thing of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► especially in rock-and-roll there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► always concern about you know who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► truly authentic who has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► authenticity you can you know display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► that I mean who's closer to the blues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► who's more rock and roll and it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► because I'm oh this is kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► thought but you think about you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2696">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► excuse me think about what happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► like a post Dylan post Beatles era and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► even if you were not doing your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► songs there was still a primacy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► creator to like artists created rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► roll it was the idea that like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► up your mouth and something that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► tin pan alley guy didn't less i'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► that for some kind of ironic point like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► I'm here because I am the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► made this show on the person who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► this song this is about my life and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► if it's not really about my life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► still is works in the service of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► certain kind of authenticity then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► somebody's going straight back to Dillon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► i think that's that's been I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► one because I'm trying to say is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► brief is that one reason a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► like this is so confusing and weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► people like me and presumably you is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► it's it's a this really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► generationally one of the first really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► one of the first major generational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► changes in popular music in quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53 ◼   ► while maybe even up through indie-rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► any rock is still heavily even today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► still so heavily rooted in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► singer-songwriter tradition absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► in fact that I'm up here and I may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► playing the drums on somebody's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► motorcycle helmet but that's authentic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► because we made this mean you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► not going to put too fine a point on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► but i don't think that the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► and I have historically looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► way that our generation looked at that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► don't think that matters to people today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► and that's not a judgment at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► just an observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► I think this is this is a it's it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► is its own thing she has put this team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► together that or somebody put a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► together for her that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► brilliantly leveraging the way things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► in music and culture so like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► we've talked so much before again about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37 ◼   ► like you work you put all this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► into making out and you talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► on when you're on my curly show you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► all this money into like making an album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► and put it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► used to be you could you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► Steve Miller you could ride on that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► a year to right or if you were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► the Eagles or anybody you can get four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► singles off an element or off it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► year or two like you put out two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► and 20 for two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► yeah and now today like people want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► constant dribble of culture that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► not facilitated by putting a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► thousand dollars into an album putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► it out and then just sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► waiting for the checks to arrive ok it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► a big it's a big issue but like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► like there are people today that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► much more comfortable going like hey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► putting out of a pop-culture product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► that doesn't make me a worse person than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► I I this is this is a job that I do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► people love this and I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► narrowcast this to these 20 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► girls who love this and if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► like it that's okay but that's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► make me do this differently and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► concerns about my about my authenticity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► are going to are going to fall short of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► their target because that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► what i'm trying to do i'm being me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► and me is this team of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► production designers and songwriters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► musicians and lighting people that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► this kind of product that you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► not going to make a quality but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► what i mean i think that DVD see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► difference like you know it when are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► so much pushback on the punk-rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► article you so much pushback on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► whole I kind of authenticity thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► you know and you know all along we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► all been trying to find the product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► like meets our needs and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► she's getting that two people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► well what was the last stop sucking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► to X no no that's that that's right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► line with exactly like where my mind was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► going and where my mind is going trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► to trying to process it for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► because also authenticity is a huge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► is is is a huge and maybe the singular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► like cup criteria of hip-hop right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► hip-hop's whole trip is is it real are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► you real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► and I mean I don't know enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► that culture to to critique it deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► but the the the the gangster and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► authenticity trip that that is a heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► like the heart the hardcore nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► this sure that scene has been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► caught up in for almost its entire life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► of me when you think about the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► hip-hop it was so Mary it was so pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► like I was like party music party music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► right and it was it was only not mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► was only sort of run DMC is like tougher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► than leather vibe that started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► establish that that eric b and rakim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► direction where it was like no no this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► is righteous and for a long time there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► were those two sides of hip-hop right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the della soul over here that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► intellectual at but also fun and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► NWA just pushed it in well and Public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► Enemy really pushed it in this thread i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► mean like let's let's remember there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► a time when there were articles about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► the feud between kool Moe Dee and MC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► hammer huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► but I was more real who's more real I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► think I think history will record that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► in as much as that was a contest I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► kool Moe Dee one but who was more real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► than Hammer hammer was a ball boy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► the Oakland a right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14 ◼   ► like come on the right guy was like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► real as they come it's just that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► wearing a Sinbad pants but you needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► but in all this cases with hip-hopper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23 ◼   ► anybody else but it is especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► hip-hop not really with all alone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► it's important that that that you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► that that be authentic so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► be authentic right you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► follow somebody who's like a big poser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► knows now there's a poser but last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► at the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► miley as part of the show hasn't as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► there's a middle section where she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► out to a little stage that's way at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► back of the arena so she's playing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the people in the cheap seats and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► is a little pop-up stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► it wasn't evident to anyone was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► and she's putting on this in enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► spectacle and then all of a sudden she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► disappears and you know multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► in the show she disappears in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► elevator beneath the stage to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► costumes and there's and in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► there's a big video show that's it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► some ways like the craziest part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► show but all of a sudden she pops up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► this little mini stage dressed in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► total like glitz bboy outfit like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► glitter hat glitter baseball hat kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► turned to the side giant sir Justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► Bieber t-shirt except instead of Justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33 ◼   ► Bieber's face its miley's face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► Sarah sure she's there with a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► picture of herself on her shirt and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► dressed in a costume that immediately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► like again my instinct was I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► that i don't like that costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► it looks like something the fly girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► would wear on living color and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► like it it's at its appropriated from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► something that I I didn't like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► initially and now I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► appropriation of but she gets out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► this little stage in this outfit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► does two covers she does a downtempo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► acoustic cover of hey who that was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► the most part like a very cool indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► rock cover if I if I had heard tegan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► sara do it before if i had heard st. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► Vincent do this cover of hey yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► would have been like that's great great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► great sad song and it was very sad too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► and frankly watching Miley Cyrus I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► to say that's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► like that's great that she is cease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► singing hey yeah right now and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► making me sad and that's tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► I mean she's doing it in an arena and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► she's got a picture of herself on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► shirt and i'm i'm i'm genuinely moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► and then her second cover is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► full-throated just straight ahead honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► cover of Jolene that the belly part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► yeah wow just at the top of her lungs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► just Jolene job and I'm like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► fucking incredible like that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► that isn't that is an amazing tin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► sung by someone who obviously has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► singing it since she was a little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► and there's no there's no reference made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► there's no wink in it it's like sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► country version of Hey Ya full-throated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► version of Jolene and then back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► stripper show and at no point does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► anyone stop for a millisecond and go see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► what we did there because it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► that element of it is gone and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► whole see what we did there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► impulse is still tied to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► authenticity question that you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► problem that you pose is a slideshow of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► poor kids in Mississippi or vintage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► photos of Dolly Parton nope there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► there's no like we are putting country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► and hip hop together we are put in we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► are doing these things because we are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► are smarter than these things and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► able to manipulate these building blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► of culture and art we and appreciate us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► for that as the you know and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► authenticity argument ultimately is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► I know I'm a white kid playing the blues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► but I'm but I'm my acknowledgement of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► my recognition that I'm doing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► makes it forgivable makes me miss you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► know you should admire me not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► not just because of what I'm making but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► also because of my intention myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► knowledge my my purpose my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► you know all of these secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► questions that are that are threaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► through the question of authenticity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► their-their wasn't any of that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► no there's no you or if your if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► in there it's just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► it permeates the culture to the degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► that no one has to do it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► we all know that we all know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► we all know that there's no difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► between you know like the message of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► show is uh there's no difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► people and there's no difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► things there's no like african drumming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► in Japanese imagery belong together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► because everything is possible all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► time so look what I made and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3355">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► find fault with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► yeah anyway I'll something I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► a lot on what you know drag this out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► think it's it's it is fascinating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► I'm glad you talked about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► it's and I'm glad you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► what do you think about a lot when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► watching a TV show or a movie that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► think also applies a lot to pop music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► for example if you're watching doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► who you're watching star wars you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► watching any kind of a show i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► always interesting to watch for sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► like who were supposed to sympathize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► with to the point where maybe better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► like who we want to be in this thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► i can doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► a lot of people talk about Doctor Who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► usually has a companion often a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► somebody's with them who's sometimes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► little as just the doctor what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► happening here and give them reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► explain it but can also be very an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► emotional connection that's just short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► of romantic a lot of the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► there's something we're like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► some character in this where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► supposed to see yourself right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► that you are you are the person on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► journey I think this is probably with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► Lord of the Rings and Star Wars maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► that's look Skywalker an episode for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► know what I mean there's always somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► that you're supposed to sympathize with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► you just say episode 4 and I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► that's what's officially what's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► come on it's officially called a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► dude this is a safe space here okay we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► don't have to you don't have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► talk to cult language here it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► this is not a couple more just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► star wards Star Wars is what it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► she's like some values it's called Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► Wars the Justicar or consent but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► story's gets really interesting in pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► music because like Who am I supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► obviously you're there because you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► larger there unless you really are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► some gritty you know british punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► you're there because you like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► performer you like what they do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► probably you kind of want to be them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► sort of writing i mean you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► the more you want to be with them maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► you want to kiss them but like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► something to it where like you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► yourself and I think this is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► authenticity thing on its authenticity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► thing has been such a bugbear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► past is it's difficult for us to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► be close minor if we feel like class my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► name is not authentic right well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► know what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► and in this instance it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► sounds like she's pretty unabashed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► saying like you want to be me and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► to be you like we're realize you say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► are doing this for each other which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► think to do that in a way that is guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► listen again I I don't overstate this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► wasn't there but to do that in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► that it's guyless is is pretty unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► for stuff that I've been to in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► they would be a little fruity for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► say Oh John John Roderick is so dreamy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► wish i could sink our parts or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► I guess Jagger or whatever but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► that's that's such a big piece of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► is like wanting to see ourselves up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► there and wanted to see see what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► would be like to be that person so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► don't need to get our own bars but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► mean like for her to be up there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► equivalent of like what somebody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► wear in a hip-hop caprisun commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► with her being that guy right with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► shirt with their own face on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► well that's because that's that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► could be you you want that to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► so when you go out and you wear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► shirt you doing the same thing that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► did and it's it's it's got like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► one-to-one relationship i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► don't that make sense but again that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► the kind of thing where like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► thing in a million years that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► say as a cool rock fan is like man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► really want to be Michael Stipe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► would have not been a very cool thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► say in 1984 probably although I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► would've set it to be honest but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► know what i mean it sounds like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► you felt like the least from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► perspective with your with your paycheck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► jingle stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► that that the those barriers or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► they're in a way they were 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► well I and a so much of it is is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► visual culture now that the watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► watching the this ponopolis of images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► unfold at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► unfold at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► realizing that that like we are living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► in a selfie culture now I was having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► conversation with somebody on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► the other day and I realized that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► had never taken a selfie because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► were an old person and I said you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► need to really need to get past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► barrier here and i took a picture myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► and I was like see here's a selfie i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► just i'm driving in my car i'm taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► picture here's a picture of me what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► do you feel about that and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► like I you know I'm it's really nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► see a picture of you I'm really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► they they had all psychological barriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► to taking a selfie that were all related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► to shame about self-aggrandizement she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► antithetical to pretty much everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► I grew up with you don't take your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► picture right right it's really that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► very weird thing to do that for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► time not to beat this to death but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► people who look like they wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► perceived as sex workers with two for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► long time it used to be that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► just the domain of girls who took 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► pictures of themselves in the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► mirror until they got the one that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► like and now today everybody John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14 ◼   ► Hodgman can't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► well anyone stop Frank frankly frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:19 ◼   ► no one can stop now like it we we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► crossed the Rubicon and selfies are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► up of form of art selfies are part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► our awareness of ourselves and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► knew people who would get a roll of film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► back from the drugstore and like throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► away the pictures of themselves just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► because even owning a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► themselves taken by somebody else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► too much vanity for them it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► like it's like it's like asking for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► own autograph it it doesn't you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► second party for that to make sense yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► right and you you take the pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► you and you give them to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► because why would you want to look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► picture of yourself but now the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► culture has you know completely embraced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► pictures of yourself that taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► thousands of pictures of yourself is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► like is a way of exploring your identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► and and understanding your ego and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3745">TS</a>]

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01:05:21 ◼   ► the Shelf right we were going to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3921">TS</a>]

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01:05:34 ◼   ► this is kind of the this is the liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► mentality like if we just get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3935">TS</a>]

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01:05:46 ◼   ► information and we have the truth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3946">TS</a>]

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01:05:51 ◼   ► achieved Nirvana or you know then strife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3951">TS</a>]

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01:06:10 ◼   ► person's side etc etc and the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3970">TS</a>]

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01:06:21 ◼   ► this like post internet where yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► the information is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3986">TS</a>]

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01:06:39 ◼   ► intellectual underpinnings for this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/3999">TS</a>]

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01:10:44 ◼   ► together and that you know that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:48 ◼   ► that's my takeaway from this show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► like they're it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:51 ◼   ► her message if there is one is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► mean one planet one people almost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► and you should make some coffee job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENdfIn8/4261">TS</a>]