Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► I'm Merlin has gone good good good good [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► are you going [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► I didn't get hella have a dusky voice [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► from having cold [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► oh you doing a husky voice sound esky [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► you do you sound like a stage manager of [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► a southern theatre company [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► listen I'm glad y'all gonna be out here [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► we're gonna need to get them max and we [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► need to take a sweep out that whole area [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► for y'all get out there and sweep up [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► that whole area that take and take and I [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► I grew up did you do with that was that [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► in parlance when you were a child take [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► and take and is that purely a southern [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► nothing [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► yeah I don't know what that means a [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► unique you any you need well first of [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► all you always say you need to anything [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► you need to take move them boxes [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► otay can move the boxes no one here who [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► didn't speak that way up here i may just [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► do this all the time but my favorite is [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► the kind of southern family has a [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► voicemail desk like that but a little [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► bit of family [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► emily is permanently family now and not [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► its kind of Georgia think yeah right [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► sure that there's a there's that there's [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► that that southern there's that southern [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► twang that almost sounds like like [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► Brooklyn nasal you know yeah yeah yeahs [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► the it's it's it's sort of almost a [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► jersey squeak when you got me thinking [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► about this many many episodes ago [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► talking about how many have taking and [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► taking them [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► sorry I'm sec you got me thinking about [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► this with the number of people in the [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► South there from you know the British [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► Isles from Scotland right in Ireland and [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► now it's funny I do kind of notice the [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► similarities may be funded to have a [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► language person sit down taking taking [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► sit down with you and not be able to [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► illustrate those similarities i would [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► like to sit with a language person and [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► like taking sit and talk to take and sit [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► with the language person for a long time [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► i would love to talk to a language [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► person and I love language people you [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► know that harder [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► my mother the pedantic people that are [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► out there language people bother me in [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► the least [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► oh yeah the real language people mmm i [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► love language stuff I do too i really [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► like the language stuff i hope my [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► daughter loves words how could she not [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► well I am I don't even know the word [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► probably hyperlink google mega mega [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► lingual look it wasn't nice laminate [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► word for literally never stops talking [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► mondo Mart mondo verbal yeah you know [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► there's not that many things I I don't [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► really care how she turns out by a large [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► but I i hope that she hopes she likes [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► music and how she likes words [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► yeah we got a lot of words going on [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► around here we're trying to get wordy [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► were just kids were d is a worthy little [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► baby and we're trying to you know I one [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► of the things that one of the things [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► that made me who I am because that a [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► pretty young age I think probably like [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► pre memory i realized that [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► yeah they listening was was the secret [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► like listening [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► Oh overhearing adults like listening in [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► on adult conversations was going to be [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► the was going to be where all the real [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► information was exchanged you know and [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► so I was a not an eavesdropper but i [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► would your kid right nobody expects that [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► you know what's going on i would just go [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► sit on somebody's lap and just sit [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► quietly and listen to the adults talk [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► they kind of forget your they're [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► absolutely forget I think they get used [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► to i know this is true for me [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► we're like I think you get so used to [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► kick it with little kids when they hear [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► anything they start remarking on it or [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► they try to change the subject or they [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► wanna cookie or something for little [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► kids around it doesn't say anything they [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► could pick up a lot of information [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► well it worked for me until I was about [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► 15 i will just come sit in the room and [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► sit quietly and listen to them and I you [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► know I I knew enough to know that my [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► contribution was not valued my is when [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► they were talking about politics or or [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► economics or something I died [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► don't have any doctor but I would just [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► sit and listen I listened until I [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► listened until I didn't understand and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► then I listen more and so what I'm [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► trying I'm trying to impart that to my [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► daughter because it's a because it's the [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► core of my understanding of the world [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► right and my little girl right now [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► thinks that heard the first thought that [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► comes into her head is the most [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► important thought that anyone's ever had [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► and we could be you know we could be [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► standing in a house that's on fire [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► talking about exit routes and she would [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► say an orange is like an apple and I [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► think that that you know we should all [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► stop what we're doing and and and [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► appraise the wisdom of that idea so I'm [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► trying to explain to her but basically [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► through through enforcement but she [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► needs to shut up just shut up and listen [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► who but it's for her own good should get [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► a lot more intelligence that was right [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► you just after shall gather more [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► intelligence it's how you gather [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► intelligence refresh shut up i think [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► i've done that with well you know for [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► some reason don't think of Daniel [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► Plainview you know that movie can watch [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► because the music that with a little kid [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► and and whatever Daniel speaks his son [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► listens his son sits there in silence [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► and is clearly listening to everything [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► that he's saying a man that can imagine [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► have a little kid that would just sit [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► there and I certainly think about what [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► you had to say you know that's my dream [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► all i want to do is teach all i want to [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► do a child but right now she is [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► resistant to being educated by me which [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► is why I'm I'm well I'm taking my show [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► on the road [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► who gonna go teach the town it's about [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► something i heard about talk about that [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► yeah I I am i mean i i've said this with [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► em I want to say with Jasper truthfully [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► I you know when I say that my daughter I [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► don't know how to get her into the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► please and thank you brute but i really [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► believe in the please and thank you root [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► it served me well i learned i think i [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► told you this at a young age it became [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► somewhat obsessed with etiquette [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► uh-huh and you know I was a very lonely [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► kid now would read any reference book [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► that I could put my hands on [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► did you read that Miss Manners now she's [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► a poser but that Miss Manners book that [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► first one she put out that's like that's [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► like six inches fat for me that was Amy [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► Vanderbilt o.a.r Evander bill yeah yeah [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► the week [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► advocate told you this was before I [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► think it's either Amy Vanderbilt or who [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► is the other really famous etiquette [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► person [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► well what's above yeah the other one [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► post Emily Post Emily Post we had a [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► hardcover etiquette book at our house I [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► don't know how my fat it's always [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► interesting to ponder like how anything [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► ended up in your family like sometimes [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► you look back you like what do we have [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► that in our house that's weird [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► and we have this book that was like you [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► say was it seriously was at least like [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► three-and-a-half inches thick [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► hardcover book from the early sixties [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► with illustrations by mr. andy warhol [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► interestingly know I really yeah yeah [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► backgrounds just an illustrator and but [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► i read that thing man [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► I I knew from tiny Forks you know I [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► don't know everything I knew about like [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► you do your IUD your napkin and fold in [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► half for dinner you folded in quarters [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► for lunch and you all this stuff [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► backwards and forwards you know like you [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► I knew how to make a UH Hospital corners [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► on a bed that's right you all this stuff [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► when I was like nine got weird you have [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► to know how to make Hospital corners if [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► you're ever going to learn to [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► short-sheet about see nobody gets their [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► bed short-sheeted anymore and I think [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► something's lost people don't understand [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► education is not a buffet you have to go [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► in and work through the courses you can [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► start with the forks on the outside you [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► move in that education works [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► you understand that reference i can help [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► you looking at my looking at my [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► bookshelf right here next to my desk i [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► have here the there the first four books [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► of the New York Times guide to essential [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► knowledge who which is a 3-inch wide [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► book the second book the and Landers [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► encyclopedia [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► haha whoa is that you need a little [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► guidance is good at index and Landers [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► encyclopedia a to z and this book was [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► published in 1978 cock stone-cutting [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► page 128 a busy as you know up to [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► nineteen seventy-eight the second or the [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► third book is the readers encyclopedia [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► edited by william rose [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► uh what is his name of william rose [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► bennett and then the the fourth book I [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► swear to you my friend is Miss Manners [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► guide to excruciating Lee correct [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► behavior nice [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► and you know Miss Manners sure she she [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► was a she was a you know what just ice [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► and come lately i spoke I spoken [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► advisedly and for that i apologize i've [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► always enjoyed her most on talk shows I [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► thought she was a wonderful talk show [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► guest [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► she's a very witty writer and she makes [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► a proxy to she's pretty foxy and she [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► makes the she makes the etiquette seem a [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► mission its it goes down with this spoon [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► full of sugar and she can but she can be [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► a bitch to and that the game man [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► don't hate the player you know you would [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► think in high school that I would have [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► been sitting around just learning to [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► roll doobies and and flicking my [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► switchblade into a log but in fact you [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► would think i was reading Miss Manners [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► appreciating me correct bigger [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► front-to-back I find those books [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► extremely calming I think I used to [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► really like because it might somewhat [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► turbulent and we're childhood I i think [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► i really enjoyed things like the Brady [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► Bunch as a cultural touchstone and i [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► enjoyed reference books i enjoyed things [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► that showed that there was a gentle [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► order to life [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► yes yeah I really really did I think I [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► still part of me that looks at that [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► doesn't just kind of calculator honestly [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► there's a part of me that says like wow [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► you know ideologies to really work for [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► us well in the sense that like the sense [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► that Miss Manners had which was like oh [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► dear oh my dear did you really just fold [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► your napkin across your did you really [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► just tuck your napkin into your shirt [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► oh oh darling and she could just hear [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► her like gently like and I don't think [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► she would even reach out and take the [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► napkin away herself she would always [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► keep her hands to herself but she would [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► just indicate to you she is the napkin [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► tongue that was provided shape and and [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► the feeling like oh there's a right way [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► there's a right way the wrong way and [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► and like [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► I i was sitting up at a fancy dinner the [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► other day and I had my elbow on the [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► table [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► all I still felt that when i do that [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► stuff and I LT and I felt bad I felt bad [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► and then i realized that i was i was [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► going to keep my elbow there i was going [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► to keep it there knowingly foo and I [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► because because i had a mind to and that [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► if there was you know if there was any [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► rogue at this dinner party who could [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► have a mind to keep his elbow on the [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► table it was gonna be me but you had to [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► know you didn't i mean i had a [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► constellation of of thoughts rolling [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► through my head and that you know that i [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► was somewhat playing the ribbon [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► riverboat captain by putting my elbow up [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► there and leaving it there and that the [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► problem was there was no one else in the [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► room that was even that could even tisk [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► tisk at me so I was making appreciate [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► what a what a subtle key that was for [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you to make that shits decision to have [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► a mind to put 100 up there [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► no I was your ID as man you know exactly [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► what you're doing exactly i was dying to [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► be tisk tisk by somebody so that i could [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► twirl the end of my mustache and like [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► dip dip my white dinner jacket in the [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► consommé but no-one tisk tisk to this [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► is sickening [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► no one knows up there's no one knows no [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► one knows that you're doing that you're [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► sure that you're playing at social [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► social cultural mores no one even knows [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► that anymore [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► you can't even if you can't even respond [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► stuff because nobody nobody knows the [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► tune okay i'm gonna give you and give [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► you two bullets on this and this side I [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► honestly feel that I should feel [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► terrible about having said this bullet [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► number 12 my daughter but it's really [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► true which is first of all the please [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► and thank you think it's such a simple [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► bit of social lubricant and nobody no [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► matter what even if you're being like a [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► a photo civil British person like it's [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► still nice to say please and thank you [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► it's not just call someone sir or ma'am [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► or miss or something that gets really [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► really nice but I've told you the truth [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► I said I said you know Ellie you will [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► get away with so much in life if you can [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► learn to genuinely say please and thank [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► you for things because people if you [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► want something done ask for it as a [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► favor and somebody's much more likely to [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► do it could you please pass me the salt [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► it sounds so much better than give me [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► the salt and really does [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that's that's I mean and you know I mean [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► truthfully I think it's just something [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► it's going to be a while before she [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► learns that that's just a nice thing to [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► do and that she'll appreciate it too and [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► it but you know honestly you'd get away [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► with a lot but bullet number two this is [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► huge and I did not get this I i was [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► looking through I was like I know you're [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► a Buddhist it was like looking through [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► the text you know I i'm looking for the [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► part about how to lose my ego but not [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► learning that the real point that the [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► brutal Battle my boot of them [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► that's right that's what is that number [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► 12 wrong 12 huh [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► I look there get him up there looking [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► back don't talk about bike club that's [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► number 16 there are no harmony but uh [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► this is Africa where i first read this [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► but I promise is one of those things [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► that probably had to read 11 times [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► before really sunk in and this is what [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► makes with Judith Judith manners [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► what's-her-name you know the leading up [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► yeah miss manners but dude Martin cheers [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► me up you're just matters is that you [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► learn that the point of etiquette [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► I'm going to say this slowly and [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► carefully even though I know you know [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► this for our listeners the point of [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► etiquette is not to be fancy [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► it's not to be prescriptive it's not to [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► have a bunch of rules for no reason [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► other than to try and make people feel [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► bad no quite the contrary and take it [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► exists to make true etiquette when you [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► get down to the real like like black [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► diamond level of etiquette [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► it's not about rules it's about doing [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► everything you can to make other people [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► feel comfortable [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► that's right and that's what people [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► don't understand if all they do is read [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► the rules and correct people on whether [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► using the right tertiary lobster fork [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► then they're missing the point the point [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► is not to make somebody feel bad about [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► their fork [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► the point is to now we know that at this [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► point in the meal if we've all read the [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► same book we know which ones that these [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► to use and we we can enjoy this but [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► ultimately it's not making somebody feel [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► welcome and not make it a big deal [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► even you know [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► even if they put a glass in your table [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► is not a coaster like find a way to make [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► them feel at ease about that you can [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► make them feel at ease but you're both [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► trying to make each other feel at ease [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► and that's what etiquette is that it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that is the that is the judo of Miss [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► Manners because I was trying to get out [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► of a second ago [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► not only was she not reach out to end [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► and like touch your napkin but she would [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► she would see would somehow make it seem [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► like a your idea and that she that you [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► know that she was there to help you or [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► she was there to the as you're saying [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► make it easier gently got my toward this [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► thing that's very sensible get you a [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► coaster [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► oh let me help you you know she it's a [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► varied it's a very gentle but firm kind [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► of knowledge of the way things are and [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► you're right it's like it's like the [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► rules of language with this debate is [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► happening all the time why why it [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► doesn't language why does an English now [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► just become a free-for-all why why do we [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► follow these archaic grammar and [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► spelling rules wide why don't be [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► everybody just be talking how they like [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► be and you know of course i am on the [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► side of I am on the side like like the [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► members of the french academy i believe [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► that the language evolved just fine [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► right up until the point that i decided [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► that it should stop the who but no i [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► mean i love i love the evolution of [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► English but the core rules [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► I adhere to and I espouse yep and I mean [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► I think we can all anybody you know is [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► done a little bit of book-learning may [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► even been to college will appreciate the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► fact that the language evolves it always [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► has evolved it will evolve but you know [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► II it let's put it in the simplest way [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► possible [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► it's nice to know the rules before you [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► break them and its really nice to know [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► the rules before you unknowingly break [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► them because all the older I get and the [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► more I don't always speak with precision [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► but when I do speak with precision and [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► helps me think with precision because [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► words mean things and this these five [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► words that people use almost [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► interchangeably really mean different [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► things and the subtlety of the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► differences in their me [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► thing is really amplified when you use [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► them correctly somebody something that [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► is I think it really does matter it [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► doesn't matter [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► somebody asked me the other day you know [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► i'm somewhat not notorious but it [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► Phyllis naughty not even infamous but [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► there-there water but they don't even [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► think lauded that I there are three to [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► five percent of the words in English [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► that I pretty clearly mispronounced and [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► someone said to me the other day like [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► you always say that word wrong and you [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► know that it's wrong because like other [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► people have surely corrected you why do [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► you do it [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► why do you still say that and so many [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► other words like wrong and I thought [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► about it and I said well I do not prefer [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► the way that everyone else pronounces it [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► and and she said but I mean that's how [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► it's pronounced and I said but I'd I [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► just don't prefer it be something [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► borrowed the equal a little bit at the [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► word she was referring to was the word [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► that everyone I guess agrees is [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► pronounced comely her which I do not [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► prefer i prefer to say calmly she sounds [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► much nicer she's a comb lee young woman [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► comely does not sound like a compliment [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► come way is a disgusting word coldly is [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► a beautiful work and it is not a comely [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► young woman selling the victim of [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► unexpected bukkake that's right a comb [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► lee young woman is the opposite of a [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► homely young woman she's calmly that's [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► good and that it is how I've always [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► preferred it is your prerogative and [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► that's right and so and so when people [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► say comely i flinch a little roux and [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► when I say calmly it usually like around [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► and this is the problem because around [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► the room it takes people a second [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► to figure out what i'm saying let the [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► guys they gotta think a little piglets [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► right that's a little mobile forgive me [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► I made you think a little bit and so my [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► hat there are so many words like that in [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► my like private lexicon that I just [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► mispronounced because my pronunciation [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► is the one I prefer yeah I i can't [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► remember if I invented this probably [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► hurt read this somewhere grudge [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► pronouncing em hard to see you [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► oh you're very good at that I think I [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► care of some things that I will always [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► say a certain way and I'm happy that [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► other people are starting to to pick it [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► artisanal are saying I don't know it's a [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► artisinal that's just that's that's [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► that's that's disgusting [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► are you saying that it's not artisinal [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► it all baked goods artisinal otherwise [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► it wouldn't be baked goods what was [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► wrong with you know I really you you've [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► hired artisans is that what you did you [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► hired an artisan know you never hire [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► nervous and you know you hired some you [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► got to come in and make your buns [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► you don't know what an artisans there we [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► don't know it feels themselves that's [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► right it's like you can call yourself a [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► poet you can see you're right verse but [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► should never say you write poetry [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► yeah let your teacher let your teacher [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► praised you don't press yourself [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► yes you know what we should write a book [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► John I don't want to make a big deal [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► about it but I'm just saying there's a [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► lot of ways that we can help people but [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► what I don't understand for my as far as [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► i can tell from my whole life i have [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► said saw Squatch that's it that is the [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► received pronunciation that i received [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► sauce one Sasquatch during that during [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► the Bigfoot during the Bigfoot flare-ups [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► in the sounds of the seventies Bigfoot [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► flare-ups that's right there had been [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► Bigfoot's before big feet before [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► sorry bro she might think it's big speed [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► big it's pig's feet justice gentle [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► person [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► Bigfoot's big feets with had been seen [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► historically and then there was a rash [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► there was a rash there was a there was a [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► rash their members and underage boys in [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► search of in search of hundred percent [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► with the Bigfoot screaming in the dark [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► and now the screen out that it was like [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► the Bigfoot Bigfoot that with the blurry [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► footage that's that's in Washington [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► right yeah that's in Washington say we [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► have a lot of Bigfoot here big feets [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► persons [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► and and so I always said sasquatch [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► yeah but apparently somewhere along the [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► line everyone else in the world agreed [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► that it's pronounced Sasquatch which i [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► think is a terrible terrible [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► pronunciation sasquatch [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► it's vulgar Sasquatch comely Sasquatch [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► it's it's a saw Squatch saw Squatch it's [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► not so much prettier [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► isn't that Muhammad delicious soft [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► cheese wouldn't you rather be a [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► Sasquatch of the Sasquatch and what I [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► can [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► what about words were losing like [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► niggardly this very very difficult to [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► get away with niggardly today [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► well yeah the problem is that it that [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► it's a word that it's a great word that [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► so many dummies have have so many [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► dummies have blanched at it that the [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► people in between the non dummies who [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► know what the word means still feel it [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► since India airy because non dummies [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► have made a practice of worrying about [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► what dummies think this is this is the [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► book this is that like half the problem [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► with the modern age they're all these [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► middle these middle non dummies who are [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► who are like walking around on pins and [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► needles because some dummy might [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► misunderstand just to capture as well i [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► think that one appendix in our book is [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► definitely going to be the taxonomy of [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► dummies [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► oh it's going to be like a big pyramid [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► we could go on and on about dummies but [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► it used to be this is the thing [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► middle-middle let's call the middle [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► dummies middle dummies used to aspire to [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► attract the the praise of non dummies [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► and now middle dummies only inspire our [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► middle name is now only act in fear of [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► like a and in fear of the dummies you [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► see what I'm saying I think so yeah I'm [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► not really explaining it very well but [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► it used to be that the middle that the [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► middlebrow aspired to the highbrow and [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► neither one concern themselves at all [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► with the lowbrow but now the lowbrow [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► dominates and the middlebrow is is on [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► pins and needles at the prospect of [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► offending the lowbrow [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► so they did they devote all their energy [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► because you know that because the [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► highbrows out of fashion the highbrow [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► has all these overtures of are all these [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► a like these like native negative [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► connotations of exclusivity and wealth [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► and and privilege that there is a [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► privilege [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► yeah but also warring with the middle [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► dummy middlebrow thinking I kind of want [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► to appear a little fancy made me so I'm [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► when I want using middle-middle would [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► save middle dummies middle brother [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► Tommy's I think of like what's a good [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► example were coming [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► um who shall attend the opening of the [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► rectory [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► yeah whom shall with Margaret and I was [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► like well you got like three problems in [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► that one like there's there's like goes [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► several different things in that [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► sentence that didn't really need to be [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► that way I really feel like home shell [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► would be a great DJ named DJ DJ whom [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► shall yeah lets you know I've never been [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► worried about fancy you know like fancy [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► is this and I think that this goes back [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► to the to what you were talking about [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► before the the great influx of Irish [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► into Appalachia like there's uh there's [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► all this appellation worry about about [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► being too big for your britches this [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► sort of Nashville concern that you not [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► act above your station and that has the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► the whole class structure that that used [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► to be a part of is gone now and there's [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► just this this residual sort of grease [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► stain in the culture of of uh of of a [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► feeling that that that that lines up [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► with all these other aspects of the [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► culture where the lower the the lower [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► and the cruder is considered more real [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► the more the more vulgar is the reeler [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah because it's it's the [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► language of the quote-unquote people is [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► closer to the truth and it's not trying [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► to cover up half-truths with with fancy [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► words right and so that has that has [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► this false friend in a in a kind of like [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► in the humility or the you know that the [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► desire not to be a not to brag or to be [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► sure to put on airs and that the the [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► false friendship with with the idea that [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► vulgarity is closer to truth has [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► produced a culture wide sense that that [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► we should I mean seriously that people [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► should be a flying in their pajamas [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► which is which is as you know that the [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► beginning of the end and I'm speaking [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► now as a as the the human envoy for the [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► UFOs yeah yeah somebody who gets gets [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► out of the shuttle to the airport [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► vehicle with the buckwheat pillow [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► already around the neck you know that's [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that does not this is not a society that [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► is ready for any kind of serious [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► advancement [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► yeah no not at all because these are [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► people who are who one of these days are [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► going to go through airport security and [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► it's going to that it's going to just [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► direct them right into the Soylent Green [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► grinder [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► I used to think it was just peculiar to [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► this show that you would talk about the [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► airport security locking but I'm [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► starting to think that that whatever [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► comes from the supertrain generation [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► there's going to be something involving [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► something like the TSA line because that [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► seems to me that that is the nexus for [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► everything that drives you crazy about [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the contract they are tits it's just [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► like it's just like the walgreen [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► situation they're training us they're [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► training us through this gradual [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► increase in indignity to just go into [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► the hopper just go through the the [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► branding cage into the you know they're [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► just feeding us through what one after [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► another and now they're looking at [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► x-rays of us naked and we just we just [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► say okay and then that's great stranding [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► cage and the indignity has become [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► patriotic absolutely and then pretty [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► soon after the after that after the [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► x-ray they're going to have us [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► walkthrough a darkened tunnel [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► just a short dark and Tommy will be able [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► to see the end and then pretty soon it's [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► gonna get a little bit longer that's [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► gonna have a turn it so you can't see [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the light at the end but it's ok you can [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► trust us like I've got a temple grandin [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► think that we just have to send you [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► through this dark tunnel that has a turn [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► halfway through and then at a certain [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► point the turn is going to get closer so [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► it's you're gonna have to you're gonna [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► have to get through a little like little [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► gate or a little kind of like [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► uncomfortable squeeze in the middle [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► that's right the Patriot tunnel has two [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► let's find that your address the [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► problems with terrorism [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► that's what we have to do and then one [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► day you're going to turn your squeeze [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► through that little gap and turn the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► corner right into the right into the saw [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► blades don't call it an abattoir that's [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► a little too fancy [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► it's called it's a freedom knife room [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► right into the saw blades I elected to [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► have a pat-down search the other day [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► nice and it was so invasive and and [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► characterized by a kind of like finality [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► like I said alright I'm you know what [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► I'm not going to go through your x-ray [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► machine I'm i gotta i'm on a layover [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► here I got three hours to kill [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► I'm going to see what this i'm going to [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► get the pat-down how do you like them [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► apples right and so the first thing they [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► do is kind of trying to dissuade you [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► like oh it's gonna be a long time so [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► yeah I know it's gonna be a long time [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► like I'm I'm i got all the time in the [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► you guys put your leather gloves on and [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► let's go and so then they assure you [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► through the little gate and they hold [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► you over on the side while all the other [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► people go by and I'm standing there with [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► a kind of superior look on my face like [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► I got the time [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► let's go through the pat down and then [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► here comes the guy and he's talking to [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► somebody across the room and he puts his [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► puts his plastic gloves on and then he [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► starts giving you a full-on fucking pat [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► down like he doesn't do that date rape [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► the explanation usually do the date-rape [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► the explanation likes or I'm going to be [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► formally touching your generals yeah [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► right i'm gonna run the back of my hand [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► across your anus [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► maybe some of that but I mean like right [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► away they go into your pants now right [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► don't go into your pants a little bit [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► they do and right away I regretted I [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► regretted coming over like this was so [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► much more vulgar then what and then [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► whatever year of my life i'm going to [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► lose by being irritated by a teenager [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► operating a machine made by Halliburton [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► and sold to the government you know 450 [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► times but its list price should be right [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► but this guy you know some dope is just [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► like he's just pressing on me in a way [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► that is transparently unnecessary like [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► honestly I'm you know like I understand [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► that that you have to do it because [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► people could self-select and then be [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► covered with plastic explosives but like [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► this is a that there's a punitive aspect [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► to the way that they do it like it is [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► clearly punishment meant to dissuade you [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► from ever doing this again yeah if the [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► kurt vonnegut alien were to like write a [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► paragraph on what he or she alien was [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► seeing they would basically say that [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► they're there is a system that is in [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► place to make sure that everybody will [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► follow in a necessary rule and anybody [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► who doesn't follow the unnecessary rule [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► will be made uncomfortable in front of [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► other people for not following a [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► necessary role that's what it really [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► looks super super uncomfortable and you [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► know I like spent the rest of the [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► afternoon [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► kind of like a fugitive Edward punitive [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► it's it really it really feels like [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► we're going to make an example of you go [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► away some of your time you know how you [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► can eat this is for me to be so much [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► easier if you just go through the porno [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► scanner but now i'm gonna make this a [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► little uncomfortable for you but not [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► uncomfortable enough that like it's [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► actionable it's going to just be really [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► humiliating for you so I'm traveling [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► with my family of the day and I had [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► encouraged them all to get get the [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► pre-check card back when I believe that [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► there was any value to the pre check on [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► this story on another ship tell this is [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► where you go John has been approved for [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► black diamond lane [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► yeah and we get to the airport and we [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► print out our tickets were all traveling [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► together we're sitting next to each [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► other now [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► there's four of us and two of the people [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► have pre check on the top of their [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► ticket but I and my three-year-old [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► daughter do not have pre-check and so we [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► get to the we get to the woman at the [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► security desk and she points half of our [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► party down the pre-check lane and half [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► of our party into the other leg and I [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► said you know we're all traveling [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► together and she said doesn't matter and [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► I said you know this is a three-year-old [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► girl like do you honestly believe that I [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► would I mean is there a terrorist in the [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► world who would who would take his [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► three-year-old as a as a false as a [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► false flag as a as a beard a bomb beard [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► three-year-old baby that this person has [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► already their mind is already shut off [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► sir I'm gonna get this individual to [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► move out of the pre-check lane now and [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► so you know so right away you're just [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► you're in the hopper and if you make any [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► fuss about it you just it's there's only [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► one option which is that you don't fly [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► today like the police come because [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► either you acquiesce or you don't fly [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► and we get all the way you know what I'm [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► standing there and I'm like taking my [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► belt off and i'm taking my wallet out [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► and I'm just feeling like so much i'm [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► just feeling that that perfect storm of [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► resentment and frustration and Bend [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► powerlessness little bit of resignation [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► well but i can't succumb to resignation [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that's that is the that is the flaw in [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► me I mean the word the word that comes [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► to mind this is not a word that i use [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► lightly because it the connotations but [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► i think it's it's frankly depressing [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► it makes me depressed it makes me [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► depressed how much clothing I have to [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► take off to go get on a plane and then [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► stand there in and get dressed in front [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► of other people I'm not like a modest [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► person but there's something actually [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► depressing to me that this is this is [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► what it's come to [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► it's deeply depressing and and and it is [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► and he you sit there and you feel like [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► you could not you could not design a [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► system that is more sort of like it's [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► just the lowest level of the basement [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► right you can't complain about it [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► because it's such a low level it's such [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► a like mild shock you can't really [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► enlist I mean even the fact that you and [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► I are devoting this much time to talk [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► about it [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► there will be a certain number of people [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► who roll their eyes and say whatever [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► firstworldproblems whatever [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► yeah people who don't travel yeah wh-who [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► like to say first world problems in [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► response to things that they don't want [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► to think about but like culturally to [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► have arrived at a place where there is [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► no there is no way that you can assure [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► the world you cannot either there are no [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► bona fides right you cannot say can we [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► just accept that I am no threat to [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► everyone like it is not necessary to [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► assume mrs. the thing i guess it is not [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► necessary for a civilized society to [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► assume a priori that every person is a [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► threat until proven otherwise [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► and the and it isn't a one-to-one [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► correlation that either everyone is a [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► threat or we have to we have to target [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► people by race you know and this is the [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► this is the premise that's kind of [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► advanced us like well either everybody [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► has to suffer or weed or or we have to [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► resort to profiling because those are [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► the only two options [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► it's like no those aren't the only two [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► options they really aren't like there [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► are a lot of people of all races colors [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► and creates that are no threat the vast [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► vast majority of the number of people [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► who are threat are such a tiny miniscule [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► percentage percentage of a percentage [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► and that that are only as happy as a [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► people as a civilization that that the [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► only solution to that tiny percentage is [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► that every single person [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► who wants to move about shall be treated [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► shall be debased and treated as a [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► criminal like it was that each person [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► who wants to travel for pleasure or [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► business needs to be mugged by a cop [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► before they could just move you move to [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► the next stage to the next stage of what [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► is going to be a further debasing [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► process like you know now you have been [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► now you have been x-rayed and fingered [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► and now you have to go sit in a broken [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► chair in a fart tube and maybe you'll [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► get half a can of club so that while the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► plane sits for three hours on the top [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► like like this process is like it speaks [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► to a brokenness in the grand experiment [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► which I am of which I am a vocal [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► proponent of you know the idea that we [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► as human beings are evolving positively [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and we and culture is evolving [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► positively and we are we are building on [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► what we have made and we are creating [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► that we are working toward a utopia or [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► working toward a betterment of our [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► condition as people and I I've always [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► believed in it and this kind of like [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► like bass police state ism is so [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► antithetical to it and it it is [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► depressing it is humiliating and it is [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► infuriating and I cannot resign myself [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► to it i don't i don't know how to [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► protest [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► which is part of the part of what see [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► Millie ating but I can never just I can [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► never walk up to that security line and [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► just turn into a cow because because I [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► really do feel like there will come a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► day when they will like when they're [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► going to start hurting a certain [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► percentage of the people over into a [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► dark room and you never see him again [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► totally and it's it's part of the [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► problem is that it's a proxy war [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► I think you need to be very careful in [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► life about how many proxy wars you [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► decide to fight because when you start a [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► proxy war you your you go beyond some [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► kind of in like an initial problem [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► whether that's on a proxy war starts out [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► with a good enough idea which is that [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► there's this thing out there this really [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► really bad thing that happened [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► it's really really bad thing that almost [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► happened and now we're going to put all [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► this stuff in place to make sure that [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► never happens again even though we [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► really know it's never gonna change [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► what's already happened [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► it can try it's already happened but now [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► there's going to be this whole new set [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► of of new I mean how many people who [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► died in a having a department store [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► bombed in the eighties by the IRA really [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► had that strong of an opinion one way or [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► another about how things went with the [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► troubles that's an extreme example but [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► in this instance now you know I mean [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► that the most obvious example being like [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the underwear bomber the shoe bomber or [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► the whatever bomber [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► I mean our response to something that [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► didn't even work like a bombing tactic [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► that didn't even work that was really [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► implausible to begin with is to not [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► everybody take their shoes or whatever [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► so now we've got this entire force of [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► people who aren't even cops r sub cops [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► are there barely security guards they [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► know it doesn't work [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► this is well-documented they know that [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► all this stuff is theatrical but they [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► have to take extremely seriously and now [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► there they are I you know different [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► screen but perhaps perhaps I think [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► someone understandably they're mad at us [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► if we don't play along because they're [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► just doing their job [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► we're trying to do our job just being [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► normal people but now that proxy war is [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► is it's taking on this just the basic [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► dignity of being just a normal American [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► who can move freely and trying to as you [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► say put us through this little this [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► little sluice of indignity to make us [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► kind of kowtow to this the basic concept [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► that we are being protected by doing [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► this and we are not being protected by [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► doing that now that's that's the that's [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► the really galling part of this if you [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► honestly thought there's 2,500 people in [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► this line right now and we know that one [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► of them has explosives in their ass [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► by all means why would say maybe just [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► cancel the flight if you know that I [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► don't really know that but you really [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► going to search everybody's ass for a [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► balloon full of explosives [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► no because you know it's all bullshit [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► you know that none of that stuff is true [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► and it is about more than just [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► firstworldproblems it's about this is a [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► country where you used to be able to [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► move freely and be able to to do stuff [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► now you show up on lists and you don't [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► know why and you can take it off the [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► list but the proximal part I think [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► becomes important because now like every [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► kind of proxy war that you start out by [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► salt non non solving a problem or a [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► non-problem and now on top of that [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► you've got all of these new problems as [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► a result of that [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► well the primary new problem is I i [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► cannot be alone in in traveling through [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► airports and basically thinking the [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► entire time about all the different ways [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► i would i get all the different ways I [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► could sneak a bomb through here if I [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► really wanted to that that's that was [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► just that was just going to say this is [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► this to me became extremely icy this now [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► probably one of the three times the [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► travel i see this exact same thing [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► happening each time it blows me away is [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► that you'll be standing there and [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► watching people you know seeing little [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► kids get search for bombs and then [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► somebody pushing a what i would estimate [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► to be probably a 100 gallon garbage pail [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► on Wheels is waived through yeah because [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► they're an employee now they have a pass [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► and they've been checked and stuff yeah [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► so somebody making ten dollars and fifty [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► cents an hour gets gets wave through [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it's not a question of class it's a [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► question of just read one fucking spy [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► novel and figure out how you would do it [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► you know what you would do you go to [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► just go to pilot and have them do it [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► it's not gonna be it's not gonna be the [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► old lady with the medicine and the [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► gallon of water who doesn't understand [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► the 3-ounce rule [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► yeah anyway I everybody's like the last [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► or exactly but that but then that that's [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► what you have these knock-on effects [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► proxy wars maybe not the best term for [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► it but I think when you when you try to [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► have these little of the dramatis [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► persona of people who are trying to have [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► a life play out these little political [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► plays and then act you know we're not [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► supposed to act like we know anything's [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► fucked up about it [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► I mean how can [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► an intelligent person do that for ten [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► years and feel great about it and feel [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► really proud [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► well I the thing that concerns me is [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► that something i really do feel this way [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► something has been lost in in the course [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► and just the span of my adult life where [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► the where the idea of a of living by [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► example has as almost like completely [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► gone awry in our culture and has been [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► replaced by this like this cultural war [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► of that that's that's happening in a [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► thousand different ways that don't need [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► to be detailed but but the the the idea [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► the idea that that at as the United [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► States in our role in in what we used to [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► think of as our role as like the [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► aspirational nation where no matter [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► where you lived in the world right you [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► would aspire to come to America to live [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► free and have opportunity we should that [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► impossible things can happen and it [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► could be sustained at scale [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► yeah and possible things and all the [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► criticisms of that that America's wealth [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► is a result of exploitation of a nun [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► exploited country that we stole from [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► people and center etc etc all those [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► taken in and and you know like accepted [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► and assumed as valid criticisms still [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► the United States as a democratic [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► experiment was for a very long time the [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► place where human ideas taken from all [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► around the world were sort of put into [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► practice like let us try these ideas and [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► there are there are innumerable ways [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► that there were secret societies and [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► that the whole thing was just a CIA you [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► know like a fake radio station the [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► entire time etc etc but in but in actual [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► fact like the human experience the human [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► experiment [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► was and is still being played out in [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► America better than anywhere else and [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► more on a greater scale and with like [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► with more factors right there's no other [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► place in the world that has as many [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► people of different races cultures and [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► creeds who all trying to come to a [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► consensus live according to common rules [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► and end with a system that allows those [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► rules to evolve in real time to reflect [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► new ideas and new cultures coming in you [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► know there's that the the rules in [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► america are so much different than they [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► were 20 years ago and for the better [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► because of the influx of all these new [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► ideas and we are like uniquely flexible [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► to assimilate all these different new [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► concepts and and a lot of that [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► flexibility is because of our diversity [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► but something is something is lost now [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► that we are not we are no longer leading [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► by example in terms of assuming like [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► taking acceptable risks that yes people [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► are gonna get hurt that yes it is messy [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► that yes every once in a while every [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► once in a while somebody is going to [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► sneak through with an underwear bomb you [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► know in all in all frankness because you [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► cannot eliminate all crazies you know [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► you cannot you cannot stop all predators [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► and it's crazy to try and so somewhere [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► somewhere on the scale the the practice [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► of of democracy and the practice of [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► freedom has to look like it you know it [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► has to this is my this is my beef with [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► washington DC right now you remember [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► going to washington DC when you were a [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► kid he walked right up you driving down [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► Pennsylvania Avenue standing on the [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► sidewalk get your picture taken in front [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► of the White House it was fun it was [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► open and democratic looking [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► you know the President of the United [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► States lives right there in that house [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► yeah with glass windows yeah and yes [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► there's a fence because he doesn't want [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► people playing frisbee on the lawn but [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► that fence is like just offense and yes [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► there are security people but you don't [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► see them and this is the end and there's [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► the capital where were all the [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► government is he like it's all right [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► here laid out in this beautiful city [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► it's not it's not deep inside a a player [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► yea even even if there are bonkers but [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► but the appearance of of america was [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► like very appealing and very open and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► that was intentional even even as we [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► were fighting wars and into China on the [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► sly but now you go to Washington DC and [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► it looks like an armed camp everywhere [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► you go there are black SUVs full of [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► black-clad machine gun carrying secret [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► service and land park police and fifty [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► different kinds of cop the entire area [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► around the White House is barricaded [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► with tank traps [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► I mean seriously like tank traps and [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► black hawk helicopters are flying over [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► the city at all times and again it is as [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you're saying complete security theater [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► but it's one hundred percent the wrong [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► impulse that isn't the theater that we [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► need to be playing our theater needs to [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► be the theater of confidence and and [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► calm right and to play this theater of [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► like of of a security state is it's [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► deeply anti-american it is profoundly [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► anti-democratic and like fills me with [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► rage because it's an insult that I think [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► your borders on treason an insult to the [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► idea of America and that the thing that [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► I love about America and the America [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► that I would die to defend you know and [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► I and and [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► all of the like Eagle tattoos and [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► freedom chance or whatever are our [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► garbage jingoism if you can't walk down [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► the street in washington DC without [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► feeling threatened by our own police if [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► you can't fly from seattle to san [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► francisco without feeling like you are [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► not just under surveillance but like [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► presumed guilty right can demonstrate [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► demonstrate test that you're not a [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► threat it's true it's that it is that [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► it's antithetical to the American Way [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► and end into the american way that [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► existed all the way through the Reagan [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► years all the way really through the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► Clinton years and again I hear the [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► chorus of of finger waggers who want to [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► tell me all about the secret secret like [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes governments and all [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► that but I'm talking about the [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► appearance the the temperature on the [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► street the feeling that America had that [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► other places didn't you know if you got [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► off the subway in berlin in 1987 yes [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► there were there were armed police [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► standing around because the presumption [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► then was that there were a million [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► Soviets on the other side of the fence [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► but in America there were not tank traps [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► around the White House you know if the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► tanks get that far [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► he didn't hear and I know that the tank [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► traps are there to keep to keep Timothy [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► make V and his freightliner van truth [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► from getting up close enough to the [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► White House to like break the windows [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► but but it's a you know they're there is [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► a way to close pennsylvania avenue and [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► decorate it with flowers you know there [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► are ways to do these things and make it [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► not appear that you are that you're [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► playing a video game [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► it seems like it's such a dick cheney [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► move it is it is and that's what I [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► because that's what I think his legacy [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► that then some ways like one of his many [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► wonderful legacies for this country is [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► going to be shit like that [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► just you know that the entire theatrical [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► thing that is going to keep you know [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► will pretty much any c- attacker from [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► really doing anything to us what you [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► remember that scene in California a few [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► years ago where those two bank robbers [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► had machine guns and they walked down [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the street some supposedly with impunity [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► just firing their machine guns all [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► around and the cops the the story that [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► the cops told you have enough firepower [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► day when Carly outgun yeah and and like [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► 2,000 cops were outgunned by one guy and [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► a machine gun and his friend driving a [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► car and so the the response from law [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► enforcement nationwide to that was [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► listen the bad guys have these really [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► powerful guns and so we need to we need [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► to Double Down we need to militarize [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► because there are these these bad guys [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► with guns now look through the history [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► of America there have always been bad [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► guys with guns they have always had as [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► as modern a gun as you could have right [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► i mean the sniper in the clock tower in [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► austin back in the sixties was a Marine [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► sniper with a sniper rifle just shooting [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► at students like its it was never a [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► question of firepower but because this [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► guy's gotta gotta automatic or [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► semi-automatic weapon you felt it [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► immediately like all of a sudden the [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► cops wearing black fatigues everywhere [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► and they're driving around in in SUV's [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► with blacked out windows and the police [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► have always wanted that but there were [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► civilian checks on that kind of thing [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► like the civilian population said in [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► general we don't want the police driving [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► around in tanks looking like just stop [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► oh it's not what we want we want police [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► walking swinging their billy clubs and [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► harassing teenagers but sitting in soda [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► fountains and we you know we like we [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► want the police to be to protect us to [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► look like they protect us to look like [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► members of the community and in the last [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► 15 years [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► the police have have through the this [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► sort of hero-worshipping cult and the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► the general militarizing of the United [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► States now everywhere you look the cops [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► have their have combat boots on their [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► pants are bloused they're carrying like [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► sometimes three guns and they look like [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► paratroopers and particularly at any [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► kind of big gathering all of a sudden [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► they even the cops that are in normal [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► uniforms run home and get their [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► paratrooper outfits on and what and what [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► kind of job you dressing for at that [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► point exactly what you're my kid is lost [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► in a department store or something or [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► something something happens in like [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► somebody has to go up and ask for help [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► with something you are now walking up to [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► somebody in paramilitary gear with three [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► guns like what is that person's job [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► what is their job and what do they think [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► their job if you saw you if you spent 25 [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► years of your life walking with three [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► guns and body armor all the time you're [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► not going to think of yourself as a [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► community police office that's exactly [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► the right of yourself basically is Army [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► Reserve and if you if you are coming to [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► a peaceful gathering in your town in the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► town square and you show up and there [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► are a line of cops dress like army [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► rangers on night patrol do you go to [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► them for help if you if you lose your [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► wallet or do you mean do you like stand [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► on the other side of the square and I [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► them warily like not take it a step [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► further for that matter if you think [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► something is kind of odd or something [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► you know you want to make a note about [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► to somebody i'm usually something you [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► want to say something [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► well kind of but I mean yet obviously [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► obviously if you find this terrorist [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► that you have to tell them about it but [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► just something as simple as like I would [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► be I would be it seems to be inadvisable [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► to go to to go to that particular arm of [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► law enforcement anything but like a [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► desire for deadly enforcement i mean [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► that that that you know the the finer [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► tools are not going to get used nearly [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► as much as like pepper spraying three [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► guns [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► that's exactly right like that like [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► these are not police who are who are [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► projecting that they are helpful or that [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► they are kind or the day are thoughtful [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► or considerate you know the area that [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► they even human [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► they basically they likes nitin [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► stormtroopers a loaded term but in a [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► sense of being like an anonymous [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► enforcer of some kind of in order that [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► you never even heard right so fast [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► forward a couple years from now where [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► the technology to have one in three of [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► those people be a robot but that you [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► mean we really are like like like [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► somebody's i read on Twitter the other [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► day that somebody's I thought really [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► really smart comment that people are [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► always bitching that we were promised [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► flying cars but if you were born anytime [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► after nineteen seventy what you are [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► really promised by science fiction was a [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► dystopian police state and in fact II [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► the price of the promises of science [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► fiction are coming true so quit your [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► bitching and it was it was a very clever [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► tween but also like it really resonated [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► with me like oh right [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► if you were born in nineteen thirty [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► maybe you were promised flying cars they [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► are like a house of the future yeah [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► right like this lesson kinda like [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► high-tech leisure that was all like [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► World's Fair 1962 popular science kind [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► of stuff and by the time 1980 came [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► around science fiction was just like oh [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► yes it's going to be a cesspool ruled [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► from on high by robots and either you [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► are either you're living in a space pod [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► you're needed here living on Elysium or [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► you're not you know and and I feel like [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► the the the solution [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► you know we have to start now and we [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► have to start now by not resigning [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► ourselves to to these minor indignities [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► up on behalf of the TSA like it is [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► possible to roll back the police state [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► mentality [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► but it requires that we have that we [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► resume a mentality that like cultural [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► wide agriculture wide a mentality that [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► that favors peace and tranquility and [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► consensus over divisive pneus [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► and-and-and in a way that means that our [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► hyper hyper worship of individuality [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► needs to be somewhat tempered you know [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► the idea that every single person has a [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► right to whatever their to whatever [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► myriad like bullet points they can come [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► up with to describe their own individual [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► identity like that premise that each [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► person's individual identity identity is [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► it is a is a status rather than that we [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► each are that our status is derived [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► through the like the the welfare of the [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► group you know that no one of us has a [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► status greater than another if the [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► lowest part or if any if any quadrant of [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► the group is not like well cared for [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► then we all lose status and that is a [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► then we all lose status and that is a [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► that's a lost art and it it was never [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► articulated before because it was [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► presumed in a lot of ways and on all [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► sides now every single person has every [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► single person in America it has this [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► kind of strange combination of like [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► Appalachian frat boy like rebel status [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► you know what I mean every single person [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► is a rebel now and if everyone's a rebel [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► there will never be any peace we all we [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► deserve to live in a police state [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► because we're all rebels all the time [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► and I'm stealing cultural pop-culture [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► rebels or you mean like like a going to [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► the compound kind of rebels [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► I mean I mean we easily been talking [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► about like like just coming up with the [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► multi-purpose artisanal entitlement what [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► one person at a time i mean it when you [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► think about it the one thing that [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► unifies a like a newly out trans sex [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► worker and a Alabama frat-boy investment [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► banker deacon in his church the the the [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► one thing that unifies them is that [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► neither one of them is going to let [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► anybody tell them what to do [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► neither one of them is going to let [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► anybody define them right and culturally [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► now we that this dominates our [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► conversation on every side of the [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► political spectrum [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► nobody's going to tell me who I am or [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► what I can do and I can be anybody I [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► want to be and you're you're not the [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► boss of me like that's the that is the [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► American consensus now and it is dull [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► it's dull and Italy it leads us down [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► this path where we are children and so [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► the cops are doing what comes natural to [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► them which is we need more guns we need [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► more Thor tie so that's the cops that's [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► what they will always do its what [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► they've always done right but there's no [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► one to stop them now they're never going [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► to say you know what you have two [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► it's not the cops job to say we need to [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► have a more civil society and when so as [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► police we're gonna we're going to [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► accomplish that by putting our guns away [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► like the cops are never gonna do that [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► right that has to come from that has to [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► come from well and it has to come from a [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► new a new coalition of people from all [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► walks of life who say no my you know my [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► individuality does not take precedence [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► you can tell me what to do i will i do [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► agree that although this law does not [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► seem to apply directly to me although i [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► don't have any kids and I am being taxed [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► for the public schools [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► I'm gonna just I'm just gonna I'm not [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► I'm not [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► it's not that I'm gonna just give stop [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► complaining about my taxes to the public [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► schools i'm going to group i'm going to [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► gratefully give my tax money to the [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► public schools to educate my neighbor's [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► kids because that's how you make [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► better world 20 years from now and no [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► one's preaching that anymore you know [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► that I think that used to come from that [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► used to come from the youth from the [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► church's it used to come from the from [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► the from just this your your your normal [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► sense of community it wasn't a thing you [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► could even reasonably argue it was just [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► the john birch society and the wingnuts [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► way way out there would ever argue that [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► we shouldn't be taxed for public schools [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► I I guess I just feel like the the stuff [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► the stuff that involves me and all this [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► there's there's a you know it's always [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► the the boogeymen of the various [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► dystopian futures that we call out and [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► worried about but there's something like [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► particularly enduring about Kafka to me [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► because in a cough go [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► navalur Kafka story it's the the part [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► that's the most disturbing as you don't [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► know why it's happening that that's the [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► thing that's the thing that really gets [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► me so I take your point in particular [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► about things like the police that's [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► their job right i mean the police are [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► always going to want things that make it [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► easier or less difficult to do police [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► work the people who gather intelligence [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► are always going to want everything they [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► need to make it less difficult to gather [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► intelligence is never going to be a day [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► when they say you know what we really [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► need all these phone records the part [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► the part that I find so troubling and [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► the part that I think is going to lead [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► to more and more credibility problems at [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► various many many different levels is [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► that this whole like well this is just [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► how it is that that's the dick cheney [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► this of it you know is the like is like [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► wait no wait a minute wait a minute no [TS]

01:05:24 ◼   ► I've got photos here of what cops look [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► like 20 years ago I got photos now what [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► they look like now there's still [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► probably real good people but I can't [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► tell because they're wear masks and [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► right here [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► why is that and when do we get to is [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► that just how it's gonna be now and and [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► why is it why is it that this person got [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► picked out of line and not that person [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► why is it suddenly I mean it's just so [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► much opacity to this all-consuming need [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► to control all things that I i mean i [TS]

01:05:49 ◼   ► don't have a prediction on what that's [TS]

01:05:51 ◼   ► going to lead to like a revolution or [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► something but i think it's certainly [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► hurts the credibility of of anybody [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► who's trying to do something good in [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► government [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► is when you increasingly say things like [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► you know you you can't fly and I can't [TS]

01:06:03 ◼   ► even tell you whether you are on a list [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► and what you can or can't you do about [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► it i'm not even having this conversation [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► with you right now that's that then that [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► to me that's why kafka kafka ask [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► component of this is what makes it so [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► deeply troubling it's one thing to say [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► like okay there's a real bad guy [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► there's this classic villain who's doing [TS]

01:06:22 ◼   ► all this bad stuff to that but I don't [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► get that feeling at all it's more like [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► again though whatever the hunterian like [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► finality of evil thing it's just a bunch [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► of people doing their fucking job [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► it's their job is to create more and [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► more opacity about this non solution to [TS]

01:06:36 ◼   ► what's increasingly starting to seem [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► like an unsolvable problem what's the [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► problem the problem is security [TS]

01:06:40 ◼   ► what was that mean yeah like what I mean [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► how much further do we have to go [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► I mean how much further will we go in [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► these directions where things just keep [TS]

01:06:49 ◼   ► getting weirder and like the more that [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► we asked questions about the more the [TS]

01:06:52 ◼   ► more suspicious that we've seen and then [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► i'm not i'm not a wing night i'm not out [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► here saying like I don't even have a [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► conspiracy theory i just don't [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► understand how how you can be a reason [TS]

01:07:04 ◼   ► member of a democratic society when [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► you're just not allowed to have basic [TS]

01:07:08 ◼   ► information about why things are [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► operating the way they're operating and [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► that what what's what's terrifying or [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► what is what is so dispiriting is when [TS]

01:07:17 ◼   ► Obama was running for election the first [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► time all this stuff was true it was all [TS]

01:07:23 ◼   ► happening all around us [TS]