Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► hello a John Merlin how's it going get [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► are you doing pretty well [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► wow you sound good voice little i have [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► yeah I haven't eaten here using your [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► scott simpson voice oh well that's [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► exciting i'm glad i'm not that we found [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► a way to talk to each other today [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► yes yes i am to you been busy you had [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► your big show [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► I put on a show I hear good things i [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► wish every time I walk out the door [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► jingle stick or now that's right [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► feathered headdress the world is just a [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► big percentage of them that you that you [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► just enter and exit at your leisure [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► yeah I stand out at the front arms arms [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► spread wide in Jesus Christ pose ffi I [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► say I'm a golden God already does that [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► internal much to you [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► mm she had your shot at the at the [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► rendezvous how to go at the rendezvous [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► well it was a it was a learning [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► experience for me a growing experience [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► learning and growing the you know the [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► what I need to learn [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► here's what I don't know i do not know [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► how to use three-by-five cards and I and [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► I know that might sound strange to you [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► given how well you utilize three-by-five [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► cards i hear them there but I never [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► learned to use them I remember a in what [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► would have been in general maybe fifth [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► grade is where they first say now you're [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► going to make a topic statement and then [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► an outline [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► nope yeah and i add in junior high they [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► really really focused on it and I [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► remember sitting on the floor surrounded [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► by three-by-five cards and I had done [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► everything I could number them in order [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► them and they just always got mixed [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► up you know I'd start flipping through [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► them and pretty soon they're all mixed [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► up in the been crazy order and never [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► made any sense to me my mom was a three [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► by five card user or at least she knew [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► how to do it but three-by-five cards [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► have always baffled me I've never [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► learned how to employ them the things [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► that I end up riding on three-by-five [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► cards are always just random and useless [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► when I'm standing in front of a crowd [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► and look at what you don't know what it [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► means later [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► yeah I look at it it's just like it says [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► ballpoint pen and it's like that's that [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► I i'm not referring to that in my speech [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► i don't know what i'm talking about why [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► don't you write that down and now you're [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► off your game because you're thinking [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► about pens [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► yeah well so so that's the problem i i i [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► i had i needed some notes I wrote some [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► notes and then the notes were a constant [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► distraction to me because i would look [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► at periodically would look over to the [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► lectern at my list of notes and they [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► were and it was just like I couldn't [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► read my own handwriting and also I [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► didn't know what I meant by the things [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► that written down so that's very that's [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► so that's something I need to learn how [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► to do i need to learn how to [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► bullet-point a presentation and then use [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► those bullet points to effectively jog [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► the speech in my mind can we circle back [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► to index cards I i want to hear about [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► your show but I actually i think what [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► you just described a phenomenon that is [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► really damaging to a lot of people who [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► could be very creative and I'd like to [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► circle back to that but I've like [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► because I don't take off the game with [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► your show but I got to say about what [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► you're describing here [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► yeah well I'm hope i see i'm hoping to [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► get your your insight and your wisdom [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► because i know that you do i know that [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► you see this is the thing to get up and [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► give an hour-long presentation where you [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► have no there is no like you're not a [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► guest on somebody else's show you are [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► not hiding behind your guitar [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► you're not be you are not an opener for [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► something you are not there is no [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► context other than i am here during a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► show i'm walking out onstage America [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► I'm an hour-long show this is something [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► I know you've done and for me I've [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► always had a guitar or have been part of [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► a larger production [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► mhm and to get up and say like I'm going [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► to entertain you with nothing else other [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► than my own thoughts for an hour [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► it requires a little bit of organization [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► but like do you make a set list for the [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► band [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► yes okay i think a set list is a [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► terrific example of I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► rhian circle back because i think this [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► is not talking about and jumping jumping [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► any point with the show okay i so you [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► know right tool for the job is what it [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► comes down to [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► there's a bigger pattern here but the [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► little pattern is that you discover [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► which tools work for you I think so as a [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► set list is has been for years has been [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► a classic for a simple reason I mean [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► it's really everybody understands what [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► it's for you understand what order the [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► songs are in unless you're the drummer [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► you might need some special explanation [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► something that's all you need little [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► stars and numbers by the song [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► hey John these real names of our songs i [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► no see the little number by that that [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► that means you use sticks on this one [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► that's your name dude [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► so I i think that that's a really good [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► example because what do you really need [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► to know like so you know how your songs [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► go you you know how they start an end [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► the thing that you need is the like like [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► my get the job my dad used to having [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► radio is called traffic which is not how [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► cars are moving it was basically how you [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► fill time and so my dad like a lot of [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► people in broadcasting at the very [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► unsexy job sitting there with a [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► stopwatch and figure out exactly how [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► many seconds each thing took and did [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► they read the announcements this time [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► and all that kind of stuff like the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► David Letterman you speak booth in an [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► announcer at a TV station same job super [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► boring but it's really it's kind of [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► about transitions in some ways and I [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► think in some ways you could think of [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► set list is that yes a list of the songs [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► are going to play that's what people [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► want to take home and put on the dorm [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► wall and stuff but to you it's just it's [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► a queue of what the next thing is and [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► then you don't have to think about it [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► again until that songs are just about [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► over and you look out of the corner of [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► your eye and even have to read full name [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► of the song down because you know how [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► you know if you just wrote down medicine [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► like you know what song that is [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► right bc i'm saying though I can I think [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► you may be a quote-unquote index card [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► person already it's just that you have [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► been probably poisoned by the same [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► system that i was poisoned by which is [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► you know I don't know I think there are [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► some people who think in very different [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► ways there are many books about this and [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► some people are analysts some people are [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► synthesist some people can do both [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► there's some people though who like to [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► see the whole problem finished and know [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► what it looks like and are able to like [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► make a thing without having to analyze [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► it like they know what the whole thing [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► is so I'd I was really embarrassed at [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the time fifth sixth seventh grade will [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► really just in general but but I was [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► really embarrassed because I i thought i [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► was the only person in the world who [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► wrote the essay first and then made an [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► outline after they wrote an essay and [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► then reverse engineer the index cards [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► from the outline because that's what you [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► had to hand and they want to see you [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► show your work right I think that's [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► really stifling to some people if [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► somebody can write an essay let me write [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► a cot damn essay [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► okay you know you can get so obsessed [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► with teaching that person this one [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► little unit on how to use index cards to [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► write a report that you really end up [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► scratching their their creativity by not [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► letting them make things the way they [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► don't even realize they already know how [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► to make it so now you make them think [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► that they're a dumbass because they [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► don't know how to use index cards i [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► think that happens a whole a lot in [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► schools [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► I completely forgot why they even made [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► us use index cards and now you've just [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► reminded me yes of course they were [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► trying to get us to use index cards to [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► organize our thoughts to write a paper [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► yeah and I was exactly like you of [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► course i know what i want to say i'm [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► just going to write it's not like I just [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► let it sit down and write an essay i [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► didn't have to organize my thoughts on [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► index cards and then I had to like dummy [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► up to gin up these index cards to [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► pretend like i had used them he had to [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► like cook the books [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► yeah but that's actually what so this is [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► what [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► so this is my preparation for my show [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► was i sat down and I wrote 2,500 word [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► humorous SI and then i read it and i [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► don't quite weak and lakes yeah that's [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► exactly right 2500 word universal well [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► begun [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► and that indicate the theme of it was [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► two kinds of people in this world [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► winner's lose just and so then I i read [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► it and i liked it and I honed it as i do [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► until it I until I really liked it and [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► then I read it and I was like oh but I [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► can't memorize this 2,500 work si like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► if I was doing if I was coming up with [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► the show that I was gonna do like a rock [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► band set list where i was going to do it [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► 30 times i was going to take this show [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► on the road now is going to do it 30 [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► times then yeah I would sit and spend [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► three weeks memorizing my my [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► presentation and then i would go out in [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► the first couple of nights would be a [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► little bit rough and I be looking at my [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► my cue cards but then i would get the i [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► would i would get my show and then I [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► would do it 30 times but what I am [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► trying to do is do a show a week and I [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► don't and and memorizing an essay isn't [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► my forte and so then I was like maybe I [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► should just maybe the show should be [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► that I just sit on a stool and read my [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► dramatic SI and I thought about that i [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► read it out loud a couple of times and I [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► was like well no first of all i I'm I'm [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► bad at reading essays aloud like I don't [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► but it's not fun i don't like it and [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► also they don't think that's [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► entertaining sit was watching guys sit [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► on a stool and with it reads SI so the [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► TBS right now so i was like no no what I [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► wrote the essay to get my thoughts going [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► and now i'm just going to get up onstage [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► I'm going to extemporize based on having [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► written this essay I thought about that [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► for another day or two and then I sat [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► down and I wrote a second 2500 word [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► essay because when i read the first one [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► allowed it only took it only lasted 15 [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► minutes I was like oh I guess I need [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► 5,000 words [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► so wrote a second essay which I also [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► liked which i also did not intend to [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► memorize and then when I got up on stage [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► I basically got up there and spend an [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► hour tried to recall the two essays I'd [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► written and signed up so I be talking [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► about be like and then blahblah and then [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► in my mind voice would say you had a [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► really really funny way of putting this [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► in your essay and I'm talking I'm still [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► telling the story but half of my [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► attention is devoted to trying to recall [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► the funny way that I had of saying the [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► next thing I'm about to say range of [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► course i could not recall I couldn't lay [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► my hands on the funny turn of phrase so [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► when I got to the place in the story [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► where I where I was trying to recall the [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► funny term friends [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► I you know I I bumbled through it like a [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► guy trying to walk up a muddy road like [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► you know I jump over onto this rock and [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► then I see like oh there's a rock over [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► there and I jump but i miss alright it's [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► not a rock it's a puddle and so the [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► whole show [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► I'm feeling this step I'm doing this [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► state of a of handicap itude where I [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► have on my computer sitting feet away [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► from me in a bag to very humorous essays [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► it's like it's like a headache you're [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► just holding two aspirin against your [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► head nothing's happened it and now I'm [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► trying to basically in part the gist of [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► these two humans essays to a roomful of [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► people who have paid to watch me [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► entertain them and so when I walked off [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► the stage I was like okay good learning [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► experience first lesson you cannot [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► recall your essays when you're onstage [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► and knowing that you've written them and [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► having them in the briefcase next to you [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► there is no as Moses that gets the the [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► funniness of them to you and also [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► they're just a distraction like I'm up [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► there if I had [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► if I'd been standing on the stage [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► totally cold and your voice from the [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► back of the room had said bananas i will [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► I know you could attend three hours [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► yeah I've got a funny story about [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► bananas and then I would have had no [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► there would have been no effort but in [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► it instead I had prepared just enough to [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► to hobble myself because I because part [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► of me part of my brain was tied to the [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► idea that i had already done this better [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► somewhere and that's entertaining to [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► watch [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► well mhm and I don't think the crowd i [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► don't think the audience would have have [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► noticed or I mean you know my mom was [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► like at one point I could see you [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► visibly tried to recall something on [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► stage and I was like now that's [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► entertainment but i I've had a slice of [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► pie one little pie was it let me let me [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► just stand up here and try to recall a [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► funny anecdote was that uncle Morris Oh [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► uncle Wesley Morris don't know I want to [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► get it right and and I feel like you [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► know I feel like after a little bit of a [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► rough start I did a surrender to the [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► idea that I was just get it was just [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► going to try and re i was gonna try and [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► we capture the fun of telling these [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► stories in in real time and I don't [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► think I I don't think I traumatize the [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► audience and in fact you know the great [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► had a great like hack of this show [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► there are a few hacks first attack is [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► that the room has 75 person capacity so [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► it is it's a it's an intimate [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► environment although when I walked out [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► on stage it was not as intimate as I [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► thought it was there how much distance [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► is their first highest stage and how far [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► is it from the first row seats [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► the stage is three feet high and it is [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► one and a half feet from the first seat [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► that's intimate so but there were 80 [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► people in the room rate and so that is [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► just beyond the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► you know that the people toward the [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► middle of the of the hall start to fade [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► into the mist like there are a lot of [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► there are enough people here that I [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► can't just I can't just look down and [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► address everybody by name but that but [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► the double hack of this was what was a [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► an idea that i cribbed from Hodgman [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► which is at the end of the night I said [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► I'm going to read out the URL i'm going [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► to do a dramatic reading of the URL [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► bi t dot ly / and I read out the URL for [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► the ticket link for them it's for the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► next show and I said for for the next 24 [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► hours [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► this link is only open to people in this [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► room [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► here's the code word here's the piers [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► the password and so for 24 hours only [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► people here have the ability to buy [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► tickets to the next show like your [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► grandfather again that's right so if you [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► were here at the first show and you want [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► to keep going to the next to the show's [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► then you are you know you have first [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► right of refusal on that psychology is [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► that nice it's easy [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► it creates a sense of false scarcity [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► that's so important today it really is [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► people like a little bit of scarcity and [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► sleep all this even if they know it's [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► false but I gotta get going to get it [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► I got to get the fucking ticket but I [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► woke up the next morning and the show [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► had sold out the next shows already sold [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► it sold out before the tickets were went [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► on sale [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► god bless John Hodgman isn't that a nice [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► a good trick [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► it's a very good trick and so that this [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► this this mention of it here on the [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► podcast is the last time all I will ever [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► credit John Hodgman for the idea and [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► going to get a lot of credit for things [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► as it really does and he probably stole [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► it from somebody I don't know maybe he [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► thought into Canada a pretty smart guy [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► but I'm I'm not crediting him anymore [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► end and I hope when the wikipedia entry [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► that written in 2025 reading deadly [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► lakes a lot more dramatic bit ly [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► readings will credit me [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► uh-huh innovation John Roderick's [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► primary contribution to Western culture [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► was this idea that he stole from [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► somebody who's name is lost to history [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► this brilliant innovation [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► notwithstanding John would frequently [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► just repeat one word as the course for a [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► song [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► he's known firm for more than 11 culture [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► culture additive you know we do we get [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► in our own way [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► that's the yes yes I was in my own way [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► yep it was like I was onstage and and I [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► kept standing in front of me and then [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► there was a third me that was trying to [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► move me and the other me around [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► interesting people on stage is let's be [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► honest john hodgman innovation haha he's [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► very good at you can email because you [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► dinged him just now [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► no he doesn't listen to our podcast good [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► no I think he does actually that's [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► alright so good [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► well so so so as I thought about the [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► show I was like the thing is I like [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► writing the 2500 word essay I that I [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► enjoy that and not only do i enjoy but [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► when i'm done i have a 2500 word essay [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► that I wrote [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► yeah which gives me a feeling of [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► accomplishment and so I write it and I [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► enjoy the process of like what that that [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► word isn't quite funny enough like how [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► do i how do I punched that up oh right [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► and then I find the funnier way of like [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► I like that [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► but there's not enough time every week [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► to to memorize all the funny turns of [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► phrase and and having written it out and [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► made it funny i have i have kind of [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► removed it from the realm of like [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► extemporaneous story that I'm just [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► coming up with and you're very colorful [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► speaker just listening to you talking [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► about your experience with united [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► airlines at seatac I've listened to that [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► episode that especially that first [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► episode of thank you for calling i [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► listen to that twice just for how [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► articulate you are at telling this [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► particular miserable story and your [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► turns of phrase are fantastic you didn't [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► write that out what you might have [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► written it out i don't know what but I [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► are awfully you're awfully good at that [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► it's a one reason people i think enjoy [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► this program is is you are a wonderful [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► extemporaneous storyteller and anything [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► that would get between you and getting [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► to the point where speaking comfortably [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► you know I mean I think it's because [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► this is what I want to learn and this is [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► the learning and growing part yeah like [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► I know that I can get up in front of a [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► room of people and say and basically you [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► know say to give me an animal a cat give [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► me a city st. Louis [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► alright let me tell you a story about a [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► cat in st. Louis [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► you know i got i know what you decide [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► which one but yeah exactly how many how [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► many cats stories of from st. Louis time [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► let's see well let's just limited to the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► eighties but what I want to do is I want [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► to develop my I want to develop into a [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► like the whole point of doing this show [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► is to develop a new skill and what I [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► would what I want that skill to be what [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► my goal is is that i do some preparation [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► period like I do some preparation and I [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► know what I'm doing [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► I go into it with a little bit of [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► preparation and so [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► so do you you want to get your own way a [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► little bit and I grow you have to do [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► something more and it's something that [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► everybody falls into like you know god [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► bless Bob Dylan if he hadn't started [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► annoying Pete sticker with electric [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► music we would have a real different [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► idea yeah and that morning meal we're [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► good see except ring is hilarious and [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► what you're working your way just enough [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► to be able to you you're trying to put a [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► little sand into generate a little pearl [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► write something new [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► exactly well a couple years ago paul f [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► tompkins I saw a couple of politicking [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► shows we may have talked about this [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► before i saw a couple of politicking [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► shows where he had evolved he was [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► evolving his act away from straight [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► stand up and he was going into this [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► long-form storytelling where he started [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► out any he did an hour-long show and the [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► entire show was basically the story of [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► his his job history before he became a [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► comic like all of the shit jobs that he [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► had when he was a teenager in his early [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► place and so that is like basically any [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► rock on the line episode and any night [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► at a cocktail party with either you or [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► right like oh you wanted you want two [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► hour-long like disquisition you might [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► want to get a couple drinks and graphs [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► eat it because let me tell you about my [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► first five jobs or whatever but what [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► somebody say busboy [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► hello I know I'm busboy [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► yeah how many people in the room ever [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► worked at a glance real quick um but [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► watching Paul do his show it was evident [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► that his 20 years of stand-up comedy had [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► at was greatly informing his [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► storytelling his his comic time in was [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► you know not just impeccable but also [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► the laugh lines of the stories [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► were not what you that it wasn't built [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► around like here comes the story here [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► comes the story and it's coming up to [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► the end and the end is going to be funny [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► and then there's the blue the end haha [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► it was much more like he's telling the [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► story and then there would be a little [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► detail and it would be that it would be [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► the biggest laugh line of the night but [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► it wasn't the laugh lines were all kind [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► of like these polyps and the threat of [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► the story continued underneath and you [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► know the end of the story and like you [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► were saying the transitions between this [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► story and the next story work were these [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► seamless kind of you know he didn't it [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► wasn't a case where he just said well [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► then two years later I got another job [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► like it it all it all wove together it's [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► so much harder to do than it looks [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► incredibly hard to do and so I'm sitting [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► in the audience of these shows i'm [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► watching him work and I'm like okay he [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► has gone full circle from years and [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► years of standing up and saying you know [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► what's the deal with rutabagas and like [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► doing stand-up he's evolved and found [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► this long-form storytelling that is [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► that's really like a thing that I that I [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► do and have been doing my whole life [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► long form humorous storytelling taking [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► over a corner of a of a party and you [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► know and going on these sort of long [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► humorous digressions but he has but all [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► of the work he's done in comedy and all [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► his stage time and obviously the [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► preparation that's gone into making this [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► one show like it gives it allows him to [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► have the appearance of just [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► extemporaneously telling a story but he [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► knows every note of it and you know and [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► so he still allows for the opportunity [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► of chance right he can still he can [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► still respond to somebody in the crowd [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► he can still go off on a tangent but he [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► knows where all the lily pads are [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► and so watching it I was more than [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► anything I was like that is so outside [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► of my skill that here that is so above [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► my skill level what he's doing but I [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► recognize the framework and I mean this [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► is the danger that people have when they [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► watch a stand-up comic they're like I [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► could do that but like I could see the [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► architecture of it and I saw how much [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► how far I had to go how much I had to [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► learn and so for the last year I've [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► tried I've had multiple opportunities to [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► get up and do extemporaneous [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► storytelling and I've i have probably [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► done it now a dozen times where I've [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► gotten up and told a half-hour story [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► that I was making up off the top of my [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► head not the not the stories of course [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► they're all one hundred percent true [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► yes but the storytelling and now i [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► wanted i wanted to switch gears Merlin I [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► want to I want to I want to get better [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► at a thing where I am where I'm from [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► crafting a thing but I don't know how I [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► don't know what to do next and when you [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► try to ask paul f tompkins about it it's [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► like you know it's like asking a [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► magician to show you how to cut a lady [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► in half [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► he's like haha yes storytelling is funny [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► anyway I think it's something well first [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► of all I mean it's I i think it's high [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► time you did this [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► I'm glad you're doing this it's you know [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► i-i've been an advocate for a long time [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► for you realizing how talented new and [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► potentially gifted as horrible as a [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► human being is your that you are really [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► so awfully talented these things it's [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► nice to see you giving yourself the [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► chance to do that as nice to see we [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► appear onstage by yourself certain you [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► know if you're up there with a band and [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► rocking out if one is up there with the [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► band and rocking out that's one thing [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► and you know you could modulate your [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► performance for like how the sound in [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► the room is but you're not really i [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► don't know i feel like when I've done [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► music performances [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► I'm not changing that much based on like [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► how people's faces look on how they're [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► responding is not that much that I can't [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► even can change that much [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► it's so much changes when you're looking [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► at that audience we did our show we're [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► talking about this with these two shows [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► and just the chance to do this with you [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► in front of people I immediately [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► realized stuff we had to change the [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► second night not you know it's like a [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► bad way but like oh duh [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► there's a bunch of people in the [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► audience right and and like they're part [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► of the their part of the bit [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► yeah and we pretending they're not there [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► we can't now [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► no they won't go away they're still here [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► but that's I mean that's so silly but it [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► takes a certain amount of empathy and [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► the ability to open yourself up and [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► eventually I guess you open yourself up [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► in very selective ways when you get [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► really good once you get good at crafts [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► but it's it does take it certainly a [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► very different skill to call it just the [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► same kind of performing is was really [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► missing the point [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► it's a very different kind of much more [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► personal thing to be up there by [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► yourself having to carry the whole room [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► well and and and what was funny is about [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► halfway through the show I recognized [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► that I was adopting a kind of Todd Barry [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► like deadpan that that just to take Todd [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► Barry and paul f tompkins two examples [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► like Todd uses this this super low a [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► fact as a as a great sort of comedic [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► wedge and he becomes I i think i think [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► what i was seeing is that every comedian [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► I know every performer that gets up and [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► does a one-person show like they they [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► find a way to make their character [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► sympathetic make their make the person [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► onstage a person that everyone in the [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► audience can empathize with and so [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► somehow Todd Barry makes this like [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► really low a fact disagreeable uh you [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► a status conscious character that he [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► presents like you your ear on his side [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► right and and polished Tompkins is very [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► animated and friendly he appears to be a [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► guy that you would want to know and be [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► friends with who you're onstage want to [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► put them on a keychain you so cute he's [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► cute [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► you're onstage thing when you give your [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► presentations at a you know I hear your [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► inbox zero presentations around in your [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► yeah when you get up on stage and do [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► your thing you know you [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► your character is like the guy that [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► everybody in the room who you know [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► wishes would come into their office and [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► and be there with them for an hour you [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► know like you are the one you're the guy [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► that they all want to be right and my [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► thing standing onstage with the rock [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► band like I the guitar and the song was [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► was so active and so there was so much [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► life in the music that then I could be [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► this kind of rye voice in between songs [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► where I would just you know I kind of [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► talk to the audience like this and this [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► voice just say oh you think that was [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► we'll look you don't you fucking shut up [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► for a second but and then go back into [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► the song was like yeah i am and the and [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► the attention and the contrast was was [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► exciting and it's part of why that [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► character worked but as I was doing this [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► our like I heard myself and and and was [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► conscious of this this persona where I'm [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► you know I'm kind of talking to the [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► audience like this for an hour and and [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► and it raised all these questions of [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► like well who is this guy like this [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► isn't this isn't how I'm this isn't how [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► I talk to my three-year-old [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► and this isn't you know and if I'm if [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► I'm standing somewhere and trying to get [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► a bunch of people's attention like I can [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► tell a very animated story but because I [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► have everyone's attention already in [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► this room and it's quiet room and [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► nobody's talking about me I'm you know [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► I'm all the way down here at this sort [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► of like and then so that anywhere then i [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► said this and then I said that and I was [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► like how do i need to divide it to turn [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► them turn the energy up a little bit on [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► me like be a little bit more excited [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► about my own story [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► I don't know that's another thing i need [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► two things I cannot bear to listen or [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► watch myself perform i should i should [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► be reviewing gameday tapes [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► yeah I should be watching these shows [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► and saying like oh that's that's the one [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► thing in mind I i really i can listen to [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► podcasts I've been on i can listen to [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► music I've done but I don't like [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► watching myself alone on stage doing a [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► thing and it's not embarrassing to me [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► but it does it makes me self-conscious [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► in a way that I'm not sure is good and I [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► mean it's I to me is how it feels in the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► room you know it needs to feel a certain [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► way in the room and which means yes it [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► means that I need to feel a certain way [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► in the room but i think especially in [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► comedy quote-unquote comedy one of the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► problems is that I don't know how to [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► describe this it's almost like people [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► think that they can win the room over by [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► controlling the temperature of the room [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► and making it hotter and colder right [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► she kind of also have to have these much [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► more subtle and ineffable qualities of [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► controlling the humidity and barometric [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► pressure there's this ability to like [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► it's like kegeling or something you [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► discover this mostly didn't even know [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► you had I tried killing and i discovered [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► i didn't have that most I think you have [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► to act like you're stopping or you can [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► get a little bar belt [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► I do that all the time i got like [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► stopping people just act like I'm [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► stopping [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► I keep eating sure you're not a Buddhist [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► haha what I can join the humidity there [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► what I what I do is I go into men's [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► rooms and I act like I'm stopping peeing [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► all of all the guys who have been [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► carrying a ladder and a bell and just [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► stand in the back and I'm like but it's [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► it's super interesting to me how you [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► know it's it's what makes me want to do [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► lots more live stuff because i know i [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► think i know what you're saying is that [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► you discover this this person emerging [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► through these little my new trial and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► error things and I can only imagine how [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► much more I would learn if I did that [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► every week or every two weeks or [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► whatever you know where I feel like by [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► the time I'm ready to get off stage at [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► some kind of a live performance i think [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► im just barely starting to understand [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► I'm I'm loosening up that warming up and [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► I'm getting out of my own way and I'm [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► letting silence float when it needs to [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► float I'm knowing when to run out and do [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► something goofy but I but suddenly it [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► takes awhile for me because I don't do [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► it all the time where somebody like [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► politics or whomever can just walk out [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► and you know immediately they the energy [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► in the room changes when they come out [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► because there are presents they know [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► they are empathetic I don't have another [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► better word than that empathetic and [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► they can see themselves in the audience [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► watching it and knowing what they should [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► be doing and you know part of it is [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► probably that you can explain that to [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► somebody just got to go and do it a lot [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► it's like that one Saturday morning when [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► you wake up and can suddenly play bar [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► chords you can tell somebody put your [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► fingers here and then they can do a [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► whole bunch and eventually gets less [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► heart but honestly one day I could do a [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► barre chord the day before I couldn't i [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► don't know why but it was just I don't [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► know why was that Saturday rather than [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► the one before the one after but that [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► was the difference because you know what [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► was the Grays out the the guys with the [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► alien guys have a great came into your [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► room [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► they said he's ready and they said let's [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► see let's upload the the matrix program [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► for our cords [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► well apart though right well and so so [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► like a kurt braunohler do you know this [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► comedian he's a very funny comedian i [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► did a couple of shows with him in the [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► fall where he got up in like cold in [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► front of a room that was it was one of [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► these shows like that is 10 [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► sighs it was the wesley space the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► cabinet of Wonders right it's like all [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► a british guys gonna get up and play to [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► folk songs and then there's going to be [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► a you know a guy who's playing wine [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► glasses and then there's gonna be an [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► emoji then the juggler and Men the [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► comedian gets five minutes and he walks [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► out and he you know ease in this [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► incredible position of trying to present [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► to the room like this casual comedian [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► effect where right away you're gonna [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► you're gonna be on board listening to [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► him tell his story and he also was doing [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► this what i can only think is like a new [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► movement in comedy which is like a funny [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► thing happened to me on the way over [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► here and told the story you know 10 [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► minute long story that was that again [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► had all these elements of of joke making [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► that that was ever that showed 10 years [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► in the comedy trenches or longer of kind [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► of nowhere jokes and annoying how jokes [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► live but the framework of it was just [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► the anecdotal story telling and so [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► there's all this there's all this work [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► that's ever that's obviously gone into [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► this art form that they done the work so [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► now they can forget it and I have done a [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► lot of that work but it's it's a [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► patchwork quilt and so these shows the [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► this last show that I did and then my [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► goal for the shows for the next six [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► months is to is to get up there and and [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► really you know like I a lot of people [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► congratulating me after the show [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► everybody was very happy obviously [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► everybody that was there bought a ticket [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► to the next one or more they they call [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► their friends and said I can't go but [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► you should or whatever like it's like [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► selling tickets isn't isn't something [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► I'm worried about at least for now [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► so I have the opportunity to get up [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► there and failed but my god getting up [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► and failing is not fun even if you know [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► everybody in the room is like doesn't [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► matter to us go for it and that was that [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► was just good let me get that you get [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► that well [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► oh yeah that was good that was good i [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► mean you know there were a couple like [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► yeah that that story went a little long [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► but you know it was really good like [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► fuck you [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► but-but-but I expected it you know and [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► even even the guy from the guy from the [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► robber who runs the AV the dude up [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► I mean there's one microphone right so [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► he's up there is just got his hand on [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► the fader through the whole show one [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► fader but like he came back right [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► afterwards i'm sitting in the backstage [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► area he came back to sharpen his pencil [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► or something and and i'm looking at this [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► guy for some kind of validation like [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► well well you know I don't know your [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► name but tell me how i did and he's just [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► he's just one around back there like me [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► anything right and it needed anything [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► and I'm like no I'm going to me is like [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► okay and he walks out I'm like fuck the [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► thumbs-up no nothing [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► fuck i didn't win that guy like I [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► changed my life over funny to me that [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► you would feel that way that's so funny [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► you know it's terrible but but but also [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► i'm also i'm also monitoring myself a [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► through the whole process run like okay [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► calm calm down now Richard Pryor like [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► you just did one show rate and the AV [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► guy didn't put a Hawaiian lei around [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► your neck you're fine just [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► I got upset and so philosophical of [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► about this i mean you did your daughter [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► walks right she walk around [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► oh she likes to walk so yeah it's [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► actually see if Walker goes from here to [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► there but you know the first time that a [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► child this is the ultimate obvious [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► on-the-nose analogy because that's not [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► even an analogy but the first time you [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► know kid tries to walk for a really long [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► time and falls down and you applaud them [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► for for trying to walk and eventually [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► one day another good-looking get up your [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► week [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► get up look at this chart but you know [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► where you don't want to live buddy 48 [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► percentile that is no place to live [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► my mom wrote down the the day that I [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► first walked and you are two percent [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► behind already [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► but you know eventually one day the kid [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► the kid walks for a while and you free [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► cuz you're like oh my god this is great [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► it's great it's great and then for a [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► long time [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the kid doesn't walk very well but the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► kid walks and then eventually the kid [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► walks and so on and so forth and I I [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► that's kind of how i feel about a lot of [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► performance where I used to really I [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► don't know it's not even superstition I [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► kind of don't like talking to people [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► about what i just did it feels it feels [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► undignified I i like it when people [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► complicated like it makes me feel good [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► but I don't want to parse it I don't [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► it's just it's done it's done now and [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► like for me it's just a matter of doing [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► that over and over and over and I got to [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► a point where like you know I didn't [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► worry about what the sound guy thought [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► and when doing like you know talks and [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► stuff and it made me it made me a [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► happier person I would it also made me I [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► think a little bit better at kind of the [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► trend that I mean obviously you're way [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► more performant I'll ever be [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► but at the same time like there's [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► something nice about getting the point [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► where you go thanks I'm glad you enjoyed [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► it and then you you know going to the [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► next thing but for me like I kind of [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► felt like that person who can I can walk [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► and I can walk pretty well and make it [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► can walk a little bit fancy sometimes [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► but it's just a matter of doing the [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► walking every day just doing that every [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► every every every day and eventually [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► like I'll know what I'm good it won't [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► matter i'm glad you liked it but what [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► matters is whether i think it's good and [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► when I know it's good it won't matter if [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► you didn't like it [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► that's to me that's kind of that's the [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► the good place to be not to be arrogant [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► but you know same thing again just we're [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► back the whole check your privilege [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► thing like if you actually are good at [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► something it's it's it's like Harrison [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► Bergeron you know like nobody's allowed [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► to be good at anything [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► Walker you certainly aren't aware you [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► sure are a lot to be aware if you're [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► good but if you get to a point where you [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► like don't need to glance across [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► everybody in the room to find out [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► whether you're happy with how you did [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► what you did because it's what you do [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► and you just keep going out and doing it [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► it's you know it makes me really want to [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► do that stuff more to get to where I it [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► really is about you know the crafters [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► and there's always going to be another [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► one that's the thing you're always going [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► to do more of these right well and this [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► was the thing that I mean watching Paul [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► Tompkins tell them tell his do is show a [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► couple years ago I was very very [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► conscious that the the apparent ease and [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► effortlessness of his work [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► surely every night invites 5 to 10 [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► people to come up to him in the bar [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► afterwards and talk to him about their [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► storytelling talents you know I mean [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► like it seems so easy and so so people [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► are duped into thinking it's easy and so [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► I was very careful not to [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► and the problem was it's impossible [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► because I'm standing there with Paul [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► afterwards and I want to tell him about [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► how i like to tell stories and how the [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► how inspirational this was I recognize [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► that that that he hears it all the time [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► and unlike guitar playing and rock [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► banding like you get off the stage at a [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► at a rock concert yeah they're going to [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► be five or six guys that come up and [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► talk to you about their band but there [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► are so many things you have to do before [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► your band is headlining a show that you [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► can listen to a guy talk about his band [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► his guitar playing and all the things [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► that all his aspirations and then at the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► end you can kind of just you know pat [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► him on the shoulder and go well good [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► luck buddy i hope good things happen to [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► your band but with storytelling that [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► Eugene Mirman anecdote about you know [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► that was really good now good for 10 [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► years exactly go do it for 10 years and [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► the other thing about it is the [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► of entry to get up in front of a crowd [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► and hold the microphone in your hand [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► there is none like anybody can do it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► anybody can stand take that first step [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► onto the stage holding a microphone and [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the question is do does the audience [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► leave an hour later entertained so so [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► when I walked off the stage at the other [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► night and people wanted to talk to me [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► about it as much as I as much as I in a [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► wanted feedback I didn't need any ever [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► and what I kept playing in my own head [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► what other what I kept going back to [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► because you know i wanted i want to [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► criticize my own show and turn it into a [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► pile of what wet ashes [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► that's my instinct like to go through [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► each moment of the show and be like when [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► ashes or wet ashes who went ashes what [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► you know what I kept saying to myself as [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► I'm sitting backstage was a year ago you [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► were superior like massively depressed [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► you were 40 pounds overweight and the [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► prospect of actually getting up onstage [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► actually booking a show and following [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► through on it was like an insurmountable [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► obstacle you couldn't imagine doing it [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► and four months ago you said you set [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► some some goal and in a way like the [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► first time I ever first time in a very [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► long time actually wrote a goal down on [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► a piece of paper and it was a little [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► handful of of goals that all that all [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► dovetailed with each other like find an [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► assistant renting office space book a [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► weekly show and in the in the tension [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► and the anxiety leading up to this first [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► show it was very difficult to to take [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► pride in having taken any of those steps [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► because it seemed like oh sure you got [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► an office but the but they put some [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► chemical sealant on the floor and you [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► can't be in there because it gives you [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► allergies and you know yeah you said [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► about trying to find an assistant but [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► now now you have for assistance and it's [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► and and like three times the anxiety and [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► oh you book to show sure but but between [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► now and when the show starts [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► maybe your pants are going to catch on [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► fire or maybe the world is going to come [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► to an end and sitting backstage what I [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► was a lot what I was allowing myself was [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► in fact you have you have accomplished [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► the goals that you set out to do [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► well you have to give yourself that you [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► allow yourself in that moment I was like [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► do not do not turn the show that you [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► just did it too wet ashes now is the [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► time to reflect on the fact that you [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► have an office you have you have an [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► assistant in fact you have two [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► assistants and maybe about two [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► assistants maybe maybe more i'm a [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► manager or two of the assistants I [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► haven't met yet [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► I've definitely met two of my assistant [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► and most importantly you have you have [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► you booked a weekly show and you have [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► now done the first one so no matter what [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► happened if I it if you know and and the [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► fact is like not only did the show but [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► like succeeded at it if I'd gotten up [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► there and just stuttered for an hour I [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► could be proud of having taken all those [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► steps and in fact I got up and I [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► entertained the crowd and everybody [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► laughed and sold out the next one [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► well and so that was before I knew that [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► right and so I was sitting there and I [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► was like listen maybe you're gonna sell [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► 20 tickets to the next show in advance [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► and then you're going to have to promote [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► it and get you know put 50 more people [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► in there but that's not going to be hard [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► to do and over time this will build and [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► maybe [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► at some point there will be a long five [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► months from now and you'll only see and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► nobody will come but you just keep doing [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► this is the this is the trail and a year [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► from now you will know a year from now [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► something will have revealed itself and [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► so I allowed myself that and and and [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► everytime everytime the voice came into [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► my head that was like you know that you [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► butchered the show last night and [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► everyone in the room that used to be a [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► fan of yours now realizes that you are [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► charlatans every time that happened that [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► voice speaks with a lot of battery am at [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► my house every day it's very hard for me [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► to to to describe that that character [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► because he speaks Welsh but yea right [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► that is the that every time that voice [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► came into my head I just repeated that [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► little like I a year ago we had hoped [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► Bob Hope and steve jobs and johnny cash [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► and now we have up we have up a [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► basically a group of assistance unusable [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► office space but you have done this show [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► will you use the gold first of all [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► congratulations i don't make it about my [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► congratulations and but also that the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► thing about a goal is and three girls [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► are stupid is that most times people let [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► the goal becomes the goal the goal is [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► this thing that they basically carven [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► stone sometimes having absolutely no [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► reason and no credibility to make that [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► goal that I probably most people i think [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► is people are all into these goals and I [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► think the real productive if they got a [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► goal my goal is to corner of the solar [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► market [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah within three months but it's [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► the same but like I'm just biting my lip [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► to not going to put on my merlin hat [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► because there's so much about this that [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► is why people beat up on themselves and [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► end up not not not even not succeeding [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► that even trying like thinking it's easy [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► well yeah it's just the only people who [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► think something is easy or people who [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► haven't done it yet [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► anybody who's actually done anything [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► knows that nothing is easy it's only [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► easy after it stopped being hard and [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► it's not you know you and the thing is [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► nobody there is a new thing that's hard [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► absolutely there will be five new things [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► that are hard that's called growth and [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► the thing is sitting in a bar and [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► talking about this thing that's easy we [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► do you been doing that for 15 years [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► not you but I'm [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► like somebody's they're all this is easy [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► ok then why you sit around a bar talking [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► about how easy it is like what have you [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► done and that's and so the problem with [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► all those things this horrible [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► disconnect between where you think it [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► should be where you actually are and [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► where you can reasonably expect to be in [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► some amount of time so having a goal is [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► is so I think it's so valuable if it's a [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► goal that you're also allowing to have a [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► little air to it so I mean first of all [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► congratulations that you got this [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► bizarre that's pretty locked feat given [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► where you have been that's pretty [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► amazing with you in the troll that you [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► can get that far but also it's important [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► just always remember that a goal is [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► useful in as much as it keeps you moving [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► forward if the goal ever stops making [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► you move forward [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► you've missed the point of the goal the [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► goal is to make you show up every day [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► and to work really hard into the right [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► thing it doesn't mean now you become [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► some dumbass you stop taking a new [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► information or stops realizing that [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► you're trying to corner a non-existent [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► silver market [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► yeah that's the beauty part it's [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► whatever if that's the thing about a [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► hack that's the thing that gets you off [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► your ass and make sure you go out there [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► and do it every day until you understand [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► that enough to have a reasonable goal [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► that's why people don't get anywhere [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► right is they sit there they sit there [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► in their little pile of shit and talk [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► about how easy this should be and never [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► do anything to try and reconcile all [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► these possibilities they've introduced [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► into their life and they think the way [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► out of that is to come up with more [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► possibilities and then beam and [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► everybody because they didn't work out [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► quite well and and and and reflecting [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► back on how difficult it was like my [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► process since since we started talking [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► about this [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► not very many months ago I don't [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► remember what where when the debut of [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the idea that i needed an assistant was [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► but it wasn't that blog now problem [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► could be much earlier than like holidays [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► fight last four months right [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► and the idea of asking for help was a [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► was an incredible obstacle to overcome [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► like I didn't know even who to ask for [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► help I didn't know how to ask for help [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► and having asked for it and then getting [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► a response from people and in and in [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► fact you know i don't know if i told you [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► that the the the way the assistant sign [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► now I heard about your [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► had like a medical assistant for a while [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► right well what happened was [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► that's why i said i have phrased that [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► poorly but you had an assistant manager [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► meaning you had someone who wanted to be [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► a manager of people who might be your [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► assistant right well so so so I I the [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► first thing i did was i called a my and [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► your good friend Adam practica who has [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► been working at he's a model of of a [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► task completion he's been working on the [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► long winters documentary for 15 years [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► hiya that said Adam like you know a lot [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► of people who are who are you know fans [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► of the long winters and sort of enemies [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► he is one dimension kind of away [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► he's one dimension away from me because [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► he's not me and he knows a lot of people [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► and I said who you know I need some help [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► finding an assistant can you think of [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► anybody and he recommended a couple of [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► people and I was thinking about like how [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► do I don't like all these people that i [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► know not very well and ask if they want [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► to work for me it's like you can't find [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► the number to call the optometrist [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► because you don't have glasses exactly [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► and so I called another friend of of [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► mine and of atoms Victoria Victoria van [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► bruna see who is an office manager for a [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► non-profit a very very capable like a [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► active sort of person and a and a [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► go-getter like a like get things done [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► kind of person she's the one who took [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► she's a photographer but she also kind [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► of put together how show that i played [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► here that that Adam film that's online [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► you a victorious somebody when she gets [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► an idea that sweet a little story and [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► sing the song exactly i was really good [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► yeah and that was victorious kind of [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► brain child and it happened at her house [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► and so I called Victoria and I was like [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► Adam gave me the names of a couple of [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► people that I think should be my [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► assistant [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► what do you think of these people and [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► Victoria said well I that girl would be [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► good except she's really busy and that [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► other person I don't think that they [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► would be very good because of some [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► reason [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► I was like oh ok she said that she's [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► gonna dick cheney you she said said I'll [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► find your vice president 05 you a vice [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► president is what she said and so she [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► started to do the thing that I that I [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► always desperately need the thing that [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► my dad's executive secretary used to do [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► which is she would call me or send me an [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► email or text me and say well why don't [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► you just tell me the five things that [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► you need and so I would kind of i would [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► reply and it took me sometimes two weeks [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► to reply but she never got impatient you [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► know she just said yeah justjust you [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► know i'm just reminding you you need to [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► tell me the five things that you need [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► and through this process she came up [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► with an ad i talked about it on the [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► podcast a dozen or more people applied [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► for the job of my assistant Victoria [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► vetted all the applications she cheap [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► hopefully communicated with all dozen [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► people may be multiple times and then [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► after a two-month long process [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► she said I think the best candidate is [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► me she literally dick cheney that and I [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► said oh alright uh you have a office job [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► you are all you already have too much to [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► do and she said well this is the thing I [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► think the best candidate is me to find [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► you a better candidate one day or maybe [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► to evolve this job into a job that [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► enables me to one day do this job so [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► what she is saying is i am your [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► assistant until I am either your [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► assistant or until i have grown an [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► assistant from mud that I take from the [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► beach of life or until I am your I don't [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► know I and it's and the thing is at [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► every step of the way my instinct to [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► micromanage the process I resisted it [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► are you that's the whole point that's [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► the idea what that is step one step [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► you're moving up the Buddhist assistant [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► ladder because Victoria was doing a lot [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► of great stuff and so I was just like I [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► am going to be quiet now and i am not [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► going to i'm not going to jump in here [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► i'm not going to tell Victoria that she [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► can't do the thing that she's trying to [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► do I'm going to allow her to find her [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► own course here and so she found sochi [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► of all the assistance that she had [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► interviewed there was one who lived in [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► denver whose name was Bailey McCann and [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► then we can manage the chain of coffee [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► shops in Denver but did not want to do [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► that anymore and wanted to live in [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► Seattle and she and Victoria struck up a [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► friendship online and I was like this is [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► an unusual interview process because it [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► seems like you guys are staying up all [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► night talking on the phone and giggling [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► but again I am stepping out I'm stepping [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► away not out just stepping back now [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► bailey has moved to Seattle she has quit [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► her job jobs in denver has moved here [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► and is sleeping on Victorious couch and [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► the two of them [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► this sounds like something something on [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► on cable TV [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► this well as I said the other day worst [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► porn ever it is it's called it's called [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► a little assistance [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► yeah assistant search that org but let [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► me just say this show that I did last [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► week I could not have done without [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► victoria and then the Bailey hit the [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► ground running [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► she's here in and she was like seriously [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► taking care of business [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► I had a at not just taking care of like [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► all the business where i was like i need [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► a paperclip boom there's a paperclip [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► might need a three by five card I don't [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► know how to use she was like boom here's [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► a three by five card and here's the [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► thing i downloaded from the internet [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► about how to use them [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► I was like huh not only that but like [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► she showed up to a meeting I had with [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► the old [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► of the rendezvous and she brought two [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► coffees one for me and one for her I was [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► like what's yes that's a French service [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► like know what you need before you know [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► you need it right so so I'm standing [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► backstage and I'm also saying at a lot [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► of different ways along the path to hear [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► i could have jumped into this Victoria [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► Bailey love triangle I could have made [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► myself the third pode but instead I did [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► what I basically was asking them to [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► allow me to do which is just think about [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► what i'm trying to do and in fact they [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► both did all of the stuff that I [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► everything I could have asked for and [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► more and they and so I was like this is [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► working [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► this is the Jonathan Club [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► this is the Jonathan Club [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► Alton come foo of just not not getting [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► another not stepping on other people's [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► toes not getting in the way of people [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► who are trying to help you and so that [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► was a that that is an ongoing mystery [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► and lesson to me that that the best [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► thing I can do is shut up and accept [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► other people's work neck once again not [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► as easy as it sounds so hard for me [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► because you know I want to send [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► especially three o'clock in the morning [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► i want to send everybody a five-page [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► email 2500 word essay had taught him all [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► what's wrong with that what they're [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► doing and and it and in this case just [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► letting it letting it go letting it be a [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► press produced tremendous results so [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► that is the story of my assistant search [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► and it has you know where we're in a we [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► basically like we have a little [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► professional organization now Victoria [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► and Bailey are calling themselves the [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► Roderick group [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► come on Wow get out of here right is [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► that cute [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► I all I feel like making business cards [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► for everybody it's it this this is [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► amazing [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► yeah so now I just have to do it again [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► and again and this is so also when when [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► the shows when we heard the following [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► day that the show sold out the upcoming [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► show sold out you would be amazed at how [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► quickly my think tank and i don't mean [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► Victoria Bailey but like my mom my [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► friend Ben London like I've got a little [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► constellation of of people who are all [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► you get a blue ribbon panel a [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► blue-ribbon panel and everybody was [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► everybody's instinct and my own instinct [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► to was like well we need to find a [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► bigger venue [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► weddings are charging more for tickets [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► yeah we need to get ready to scale this [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► up to the I disagree we need to take we [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► need to start to remember that video [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► where share is on an aircraft carrier [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► that's what we need to be thinking you [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► think chaps how do we get your you in [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► assless pants and then they're crushing [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► the bunny don't want to crush the bunny [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► well that's the thing and I don't think [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► they don't think any of them work we're [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► pushing that too hard it was just the [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► first instinct and it was my own first [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► question of course it is is that this I [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► i somehow managed to stand up without [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► falling down i guess it's time to pull [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► the halt [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► yeah exactly it's time it's time now to [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► a to launch a rocket into space [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► now is the time to six months at that [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► plump side some career advice just six [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► months at that place gets fucking [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► awesome at it and then think about that [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► think about adding another show maybe a [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► different show where you can grow some [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► more but you you know you're building [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► your platform [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► yep so it only time I think I think [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► credit to everybody in this organization [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► like it only took 20 minutes for [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► everybody to come to that understanding [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► themselves like wait a minute wait a [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► minute where maybe maybe instead of six [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► dollars we charged seven but that is [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► fixed [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► that's the extent of how much we should [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► push this this is a this is an incubator [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► it is a yeah it's just it's a little [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► world the real you know the real benefit [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► of this is going to be in a year when I [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► understand when I understand what I'm [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► trying to make the benefit of it is not [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► that not that I made four hundred [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► dollars right and I need to make seven [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► hundred dollars but and so like I saw [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► anyway I believe in this little team of [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► people and I believe in this little [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► operation and I believe that I can well [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► that i can try again next week and try [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► and do it better [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► my biggest fear right now is that you're [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► becoming saying and I don't want you to [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► fuck up the show [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► don't get too okay stay inej a little [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► bit off-balance [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► oh I want to become too like well that [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► seems like a question with a very simple [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► history early years [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► three-point plan 2,500 words how well I [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► think what will keep me crazy is that [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► you and I'd start doing live rhetoric on [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► the lines that will be completely [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► unpredictable on scriptable unscheduled [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► below what if we do it in a five-person [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► venue and charged $5,000 let's do it in [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► a van [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► mm and is anything but the band was so [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► we fly to Italy fly to a different city [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► in America and we do with a land in the [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► back we do a live right on the line in a [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► van and only five people can attend but [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► tickets are $500 5,000 5,000 articulate [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► making text and techniques you know what [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► to use some of you will get like three [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► fans from square and we don't work for [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► 20 years [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► see now who's who thought of that who [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► thought of that Paula Tompkins yeah yeah [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► in your face mustache boy that's right [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► all you comedians are going to be like [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► you know my whole life was transformed [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► after John and Marlena pioneered the you [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► stop when you think she'd make a shirt [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► when in fact you charge 650 oh you know [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► what here's an idea [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► charge five thousand dollars two medians [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► in vans getting coffee but then I what [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► it was what it was like a really nice [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► van or maybe even like a limo [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► what if we got like a like a like a [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► white kids going to the prom limo [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► we got five or six people with a catered [TS]

01:05:44 ◼   ► meal escalade limo [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► yeah like super complicated maybe walk [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► around maybe have about the chemical [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► toilet in it like a nice one and then we [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► go around we do our show we drive around [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► somewhere that's not too interesting [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► where they would be distracted but drive [TS]

01:05:57 ◼   ► them maybe around the park a few times [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► go around the park ya go to the park [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► again geez you give them some give me a [TS]

01:06:03 ◼   ► gyro and and maybe some some lemonade or [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► something and H give us five thousand [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► dollars [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► yeah everybody gets a bell at the end of [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► the show everybody gets a bell it get to [TS]

01:06:14 ◼   ► take their belt sign your bail [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► that's right so we begin the van first [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► thing that get isabelle we make it seem [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► like they just get to hold the bell [TS]

01:06:22 ◼   ► oh it's a line yeah it's a little [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► something extra the end exactly say like [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► if the bell and yeah like listen don't [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► bring in a bunch but you're welcome to [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► ring it if you feel like it was it's an [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► occasion that the bell should ring you [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► get Val you get about [TS]

01:06:36 ◼   ► get out of my fucking number and we're [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► done [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► that's great [TS]