00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:16 ◼ ► starts with your website as you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/16">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin has it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► pretty good although I reached up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► click on the answer button on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► skype who and I accidentally clicked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► button that said software updates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► available for your computer would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► oh and i clicked on yes apparently out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/45">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► started to like started to work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► was like no no no I don't want that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► i looked at and but the X button now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► shaded out I couldn't click on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► there was no canceling wasn't an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► anymore and so something right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► working behind the scenes on my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/66">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► to update my software which I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► want we do an open a support ticket for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► you think so I using gonna send a report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► to apple windows pc or apple macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► haha i don't even remember i stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/81">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► babyface respondents have you tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► restarting i wanna i would unplug the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► thank you enough have you tried running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► the diagnostic mmm my favorite of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► the program plastic diagnostic indicates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► diagnostic cannot connect your good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► cannot connect your computer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► internet Thank You back cause that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► I feel that's how I feel with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► things I was about to say as how i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► feel like if the the electric power went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► out and then there was a diagnostic base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► that required electric power to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► whether the power was on my favorite 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► think i mention this before because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► know John this is an evergreen program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► we've done this for for many years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/132">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► but uh listen to me episode anytime my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► favorite is when my comcast connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► goes from being merely a piece of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► shit to obviously not working and i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► look at a glance over the motor and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► something is wrong i restarted i do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► rain dance and my favorite though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► that when I have to determine why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► and they tell you to go to the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► yeah that's nice they're smart although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► i met your comcast guy i used certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► did isn't he a gem is a very nice man i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► was in Colorado mi was alice is a wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► i forgot about this this is a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► well it's a story no uh-uh wonderful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► it has your panties or something don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► know the reason that I the reason that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► was in that situation is I went you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► I went I went to the conference on world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► affairs just this first time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► first time you know justjust a earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► this year and I had a great time at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► conference on world affairs it's wet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► just as I predicted as as I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► further and further away from it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► remembering it as being a spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► event that I would you know I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► highly recommend but the but the one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/205">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► one bomber was that I was they had me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► there they had me in in their system I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► guess on their radar as a musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► primarily although the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► invited me that the people really who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► invited me to come I think understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► that I was there as a I guess podcaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► but the music just keeps getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► miss attributed and find out miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► attributed as as as a musician first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► instead of being a potential retired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► director of the CIA is bad enough right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► that is what I should have been there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► we don't even have a slot in Excel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► podcaster yeah and I all week long i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► talking to 70 year olds and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► podcast they're like podcast but so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/254">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► performance and they were like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► to get up and play with all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► musicians take a load out man you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► have i told you this story I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► to rely totally want to hear hear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► these stories are you what was it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► acoustic guitar that wasn't plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► no it was it was a thousand times worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► musicians that go to this they go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► are like middle-aged jazz musicians some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► of them old jazz musicians some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► like properly old musicians who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► played the newport jazz festival that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► progressions have a to coordinate for 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► years well you know that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► progressions on top of progressions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► progression separate aggressions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► they're like no no it's just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► jam nobody knows the stuff we just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► get up there and jam and I was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/312">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► I don't do that very well like i like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► jam share nanak yes no I'm saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► doesn't like that would be you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► gonna be your yourse captain would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► going out looking real 18 minutes to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/328">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► have I told you this story but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► but so everybody's like they're all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► super jazzed their cats you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► get these people are jazz cats and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► throughout the whole week i keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► like I'm not really a hammer I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► there was like a half-rack Astros and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► were in the basement of somebody's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► yeah i would jam but i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/355">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► don't get up and I don't get up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► stage with 25 people and like unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► unless we're doing unless its extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► bringing on the heartbreak 12 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► exactly bringing on the heartbreak like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► and everybody takes a solo that's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► anyway so I'm standing on the wings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► this place and they have rented a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► Stratocaster for me and there's an amp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/377">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► I like i say that there's a spot for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► on this on this stage where there's 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► other players and they are let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► there's two sacks opponents to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► guitarists like two bass players that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► guy playing the google horn a3 like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/400">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► a couple of drummers one of them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► Israel you know it that people from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/409">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► around the world and they're out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► playing basically the theme from taxi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► she's out there playing that that smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► jazz is it like mid-tempo this tempo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► says cool jazz that that i'm sure in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/426">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► late sixties her mid sixties was heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► duty shit but even by the late seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► it had you know I just kept seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► stephen j cannell e production you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► likes it loose it it was it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/445">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► music that i could not comprehend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► listening to let alone making and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► not to say that there was an amazing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► not a thing that I could that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► gain any traction on and so I walked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► onstage at some point at being pressured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► backstage by people pressure in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► friendliest way but by someone holding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► clipboard was like you gotta get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► there this is part of the spirit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► convention you know the part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► spirit of the of the whole week that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► get out and we just take risks and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► just go for it and I want to walk out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► onstage and I get this stratocaster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► the bandleader guy is the trumpet player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► and he looks mean he's like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► we're going to do something real simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► like just a you know for bar blues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► I'm like yeah okay for bar blues i can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► can find some way to dig into this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► the creatures running like a boob at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► dam and the band starts a little talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► about our stuff better and I'm just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/513">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► this is not a four bar blues in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► world I live in and i'm sitting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► guitar and I'm just trying to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► route and yet but I even like its it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► don't know what kids and no no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► think the guy shouted over to the piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► player right before he's like are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► going to real simple for Blue's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► just fine and it looks over the piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and I can says what you know one key and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/540">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► the piano plays like leaves it up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► piano player he doesn't he should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► looked at me and I would've been de [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► pleasey pleasey you looking to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► player piano players like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► b-flat minor and they're like yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► like b-flat minor I don't even my guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► doesn't even have that and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► sitting up there and I'm I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► hunting and I can hear I mean it's fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► jazz because every note i play is so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► out its like the hippest note in James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► because these guys are just and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► reality is that none of them do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► what they're doing in advance it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► a their musical language enables them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► like hear the progression go by the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► thing about they think about music so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► differently than we do think they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► study theory really really hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► years until they never really have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► consciously they can explain something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► with theory i don't think they think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► theory no whereas with us you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► like okay 12 45 or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► yeah i think every once in a while a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► you know there's like there's music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► stands around and there there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► stuff on the music stands but it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► piece of paper that has 80,000 notes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/615">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► and so everything's swell guy would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► point out a piece of paper like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► didn't you see it and you know I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► over at it and it's like it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► that's what a guy John it sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► dream a nightmare it sounds like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► those like I woke up with no pants on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► so I'm standing and the only other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► is I'm right in the middle of the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► by conspicuously walked out into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► middle of the room because that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► my stuff was oh the best part was I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► sound checked this guitar and amp i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► showed up but I showed up at five when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► they said like soundcheck starts no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► else is there except for the sound guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► and I show up and I'm like a I'm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► for the soundtrack and he's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/662">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► nobody else is here but they rented you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► a guitar an amp and so I stand on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► stage and I strumming my guitar and do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► and I actually check a vocal mic and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► thinking i don't know maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► maybe they'll be like hey play one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► your songs and all the saxophone players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► like that will play cinnamon together or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► something so I check this rig and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► i'm waiting around and I'm like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► think anybody else is gonna come he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► like you know jazz guys they'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► just show up right before the show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► oh alright well I you know I guess i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► go for a walk i'll come back we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► you might do a run through some Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► Yeah right like outlets it's 24 bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► blues let's picky so I come back and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► guitar is out there while I walk out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► onstage you know it's the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► show you could trending toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► finale I walk out onstage and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/717">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► something is plugged into my rig and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/727">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► was like oh i was gonna and he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► i just plugged into that because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► because it was here I was like ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/737">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► and we're trying to transact this on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► on a live stage while people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► talking about that you know like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► welcome to the stage it's the guy and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► the other guitar player says well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► know what man I played a lot tonight any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► unplugs and hands me the cable and walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► he was the one guy that I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► be able to look at his instrument and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► tell one fucking note we were playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► because the other guitar player went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► over put his guitar down and went over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► and started playing the bass playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► bass facing the piano player like he put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► he put the base on himself turned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► his back to me so that he could look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► the piano player and like jam piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► player couldn't look back but like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► so I'm standing on stage this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► there's 20 people and not one stringed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► instrument except except maybe a violin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► but like not a thing that i could look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► at anybody and say like hey show me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► you're fretting hand so I can like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► what quadrant of the guitar work anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► so about 45 seconds of hunting for notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► and I said and this and at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► it's just flop sweat pouring down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► I'm standing there and inside my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► this voice is going you fucking idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► you knew you never should've walked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► on this date you never ever you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► have said you should have you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► have hit your hand with a hammer before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► walking out on the stage and so I turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► the guitar i took turn the volume not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► completely off got a big smile on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► face took a step forward and started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► just strumming the shit out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► things like yeah sappy dat bone bargains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► a bargain Bobby did about of a hand by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/852">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► the trumpet player looks over and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/856">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► Oh God and I waved him off like like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► had just said pitch fastball that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► like no sir thank you big smile like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► thank you know well hot and it moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► you know he's just like got off me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► went to the next guy and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► next guy took like a tambourine solo for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/881">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► 20 minutes and so I was just up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/882">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► just just chicken pickin and cooking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► my completely off guitar that's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/889">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah it was the only thing i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► do and it's best for the audience to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► ever nobody in the room could tell or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► gave a shit except you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► there were a couple people there who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► came to see me or were us were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► aware that I was playing and talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► them afterwards and they were both like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► that was great i mean i can really hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► you but it was really you know seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► like a lot of music was getting made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and if I had just walked out not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► bother plugging in a guitar and had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► like to pop up anyway so this that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/923">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► show is over and i put the guitar down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► like I think I put the guitar down by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► the door on my way out of the stage door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► I'm not hanging around here I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► gonna have a cup of tea after the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► am out because I was just I was i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► i was frustrated and so many times in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► life I have been in that exact situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► enough to have learned it will not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► never gonna play and yet hope springs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/958">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► experimental just get up there and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► do it what happens at tonight's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► night you know what if what if it all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► the stars align and it's amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► you're going to feel like an idiot if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► you're if you say no I'd better not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► it and then the the last song they do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► smoke on the water and and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► guitar can be flat there smoke on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► water and there's a guitar in the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► of the stage with a spotlight on it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► was meant for you and you didn't jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► out and and do it you're gonna feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► an idiot you know that other voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► that's like what's the matter take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► know take a risk every once awhile goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► for sure 10 super ego or whatever put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► you in the right place which I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► I mean that's not your show right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► those are the grown-ups the grown-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► are doing like their thing this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► your thing and you're a gentleman about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► doing it but that's the thing is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► were the star of that show if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► John Roderick review and you had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► maybe even it was the same setup you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► find some way to go to the mic and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► something fun and entertaining that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► knew your audience would enjoy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► almost anything you would have done I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► not being negative I'm just being honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► almost anything you would have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► would have been disruptive and stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► absolutely that's the thing if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► said if i walk out there and said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► now I'd like to take down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► and play you a little song of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► called hindsight it would you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► it would have been flabbergasting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► train wreck or just the worst and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► mean the ER right now the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► could have done is walk out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► ok I'm here now and so blues in e right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► but I was the junior partner by a factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► of fifteen you know like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► piano player with 75 and a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► people maybe they hadn't played together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► but they had played they all heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► one another you know like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► people who are giggling in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► realm and so anyway I walk out the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► door the theater and I'm just like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► still flop sweaty and I'm and I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► having this argument with myself i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► walking down the alleys of boulder going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► like I idiot god why did you ever walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► don't ever do it you know not to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► single role as a pro I'm saying is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► progressive all of your friends name a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► single one of them any one of your dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► that does the same thing that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► vanderslice Zhan gibbard would any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► them have agreed to go out onstage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► under those conditions no not a one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► them one of you know they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► said they would have said let's set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► separate show that's more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► songwriter night at one of the bars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► I'll play a little set of songs and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► mean I think they actually tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► that and I shot it down but nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► have gotten up on a stage full of jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► musicians and and try to like comp along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► and so I'm kicking myself and I'm mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► and I'm just upset that I'm sitting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► park bench and I'm like soccer guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► what is naturally the thing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► situation which is I go on Twitter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► say tweetup i'm sitting on a park bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► in boulder for the next 40 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► taking myself if anybody wants to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► wow I don't know why I did that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► do I never tweet up but I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► sitting out there and I was like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► got to get out of my head I gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► out of this head space because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► about a thing that doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► turning sour about a thing that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► worked out just fine and I need to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► I don't know anybody in this town and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► need to just like get out of get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► this i need to turn tonight around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► turn the ball around and so I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► know tweetup and within about 10 or 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► Wow one of them was you're a good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► no last names no last names beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► with company because of the italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► persuasion blue and he is moving to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► west didn't know if you do that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► shows up he's delightful than a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► woman shows up she's delightful we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► all meeting for the first time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► as we're sitting on the park bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► talking car goes by and as it goes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► the rear tire comes off I mean the rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► wheel comes off and the car like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► lands on its axle and start scraping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► big lincoln continental and so then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► of course that attracts all the Juggalos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► that hang out downtown because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► like flames and the cops are there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► please do as soon as you're scraping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► metal on metal the Juggalos come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► all the doorways so it ended up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► very positive night and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► pulled that out of your ass but now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► the image of several dozen people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► makeup like looking a little tentative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► at first look like kind of Raccoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► like a moth to LA yeah they're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► what is that something is that scraping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► their little heads poking around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► doors i can i can i can be free like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► fire so but it was it was it was a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► of by the end of that night when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► finally walking home I felt there I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► I felt very I felt that all was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► with the world and i think it was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► reached out who reached out to humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► and said now I think it was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► risk if I had said I've had said I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► gonna be sitting on a park bench for 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► minutes and and I just heard crickets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► was just me watching the Juggalos I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► would have been even more bummed out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► two wonderful people showed up out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► yeah it's not like the nature of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► frustration i will be obviously the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► experience of going out there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► know ue manned up and you did it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► sounds like you're you're he said as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► much that it's mainly it's the decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► to have gone out with the bad decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► yeah you save you saved it from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► something that was you know bad for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► audience and humiliating to the band why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► noodling along but you think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► have just said no thank you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it's a kind of like like at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► point of self-knowledge and I obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like I have certain insecurities about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► not being like like almost any musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► would of not being up to whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► game is and a lot of these guys and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► I ended up on a on a on a panel a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► larger panel with some of these cats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► it came around to me and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► talking about like yeah man you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► just get to play with people you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► tripped and it's amazing and zappity do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► unfortunately i come from a school of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► thought that that spent a lot of time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► the spent many years really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► pretty solidly feeling like soloing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► wasn't was an active egotism and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► colonialism like this the school of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► music that I came up in nobody soloed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► nobody took a solo at all only certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► kind of like ironically ironic solos at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► yes and those were intentionally bad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► intentionally like I mean basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► mocking and ends up men punk rock girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► kinda solo yeah like it deliberately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► well and you know my live shows often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► have big solos then that I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► earnestly but for for a long time played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► ironically i confess that i did that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► the way that I that I was a lab that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► allowed myself to do it i mean my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► bandmates would be sitting like openly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► scoffing at me as i took my big comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► rock soul and so you know i'm sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► this panel and I'm like unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► for me I i come from a school where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► feel like soloing is a bourgeois who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► you can have the cats feel you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► hear a pin drop you know and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► this is a this is a scene where it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► multiracial group of musicians and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► jazz is the jazz is the path or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► and I'm sitting there saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► act of soloing is bourgeois and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► just like okay I mean I felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► member of gang of four all the sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► not the band rather the real anyway uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► so by the end of the week it was I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► come full circle right guy had made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► it's not that I had come full circle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► I had at least traced back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► beginning but the idea that you the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► that you know what you are good at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► that you that you set limits about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► other people set limits about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► will be pressured into like singing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► somebody's wedding or you know a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► time ago i said i don't do karaoke and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► and yet if I'm at somebody's wedding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► they pay me a microphone ago come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► everybody's drunk you know i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► would generally say no unless it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► bride ask him but this was that but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► again you can't do that because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► are those moments where you say yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► right i'll do it and it ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► the greatest night of your life so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► it's it's just one of those like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► it's it is just life in a nutshell what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► you're describing something that I I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► really struggled with at a higher level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► that gets either instances of this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► are specific to the kind of thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► talking about but you know you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► about two very different things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► one hand you know one of the myths of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► getting married is that it's the bride's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► day it is the bride's day the bright I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► mean that is the Bride the bride a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► of those women have been thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► that day the whole life and have real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► particular ideas that should be honored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► and we're all there you know but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► ones who actually in the machinery once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► your arm is actually in the gears you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► realize that it is all about other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► people so you know what if the bride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► wants you to sing a song that's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► thing and you can see doing that now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► put me straight straight down the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► hole about a conference that my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► internet advertising group put on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► there was at the time a very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► group it was the kind of the boutique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► like you know we were making see pm's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► three four five times or anybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► making well it was sometimes big time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► time any time when our ads loaded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► made a ton more money than anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► can even touch this very prestigious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► and run by a very famous guy and and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► course they said no seriously what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► the CPM Oh cost per thousand views it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► just it's just a way of quantifying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► what you charge based on you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► medication at em like a thousand i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► Oh cost per mil something like that cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► per meal but you know I went to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► thing I was very happy to be involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the group was a great moneymaker they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► great people is very like it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► nice to even be invited to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► group let alone be invited to say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► you know a lot of our advertisers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► coming to this conference all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► you know publishers are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► there but you know nothing against these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► guys but like I one of the reasons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► ended up leaving this particular group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► is because they were doing more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► of what has now become completely ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► which is like having a post on your site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► that sponsored by somebody or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► and I actually kind of i gave way as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► say left a lot of money on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► because I just couldn't do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► and even like the one or two times I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► it I felt so dirty because that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► I'm stupid and old and that's how my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► I don't think that's right even today it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► really irks me when I see sites where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► especially if they don't announce its a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► sponsored post like its any you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► what I mean right you know you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► feeling of what I do you know hey here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► the deal you know if this car company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► wants to use my song and add pay me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► appropriately but nobody's ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► confuse this song with this car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► think that you know what I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► theirs separate things by this t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► you get a t-shirt I get money these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► clear transactions that make sense yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► that's the thing but all that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► all those sites are purporting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► also generating like content that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► independent or even journalistic that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► that's the word is in one reason a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► of us really relish the rise of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► like blogs and now today podcast as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► thing was that you got to make you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► you were always I always find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► calling up Jonathan Coulton but he's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► longer unique in this regard somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► the way I phrased to Jonathan you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► when we very first met I said what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► circumspect about who's allowed to fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► your shit up for almost no money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► I've always been there since I still got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► a little smarter about this i would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► i would start to feel from a monetary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► standpoint like don't just let people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► frame you in a certain way unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► really understand what you're accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► and you know you're actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► giving away part of yourself when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► let other people decide who you are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► then put you under the rubric of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► brand for example so anyway long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► short I could feel the the the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► the velocity of this group was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► more and more into stuff for like mommy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► bloggers would just have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► sponsored for a year and they go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► trips sponsored by computer companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► and stuff and I just that gave me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► fear a little bit i show up at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► thing where I think I'm mostly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► have to sit one of those round tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► with a pad of paper and picture water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► and smiling and applied and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► that I find out I'm gonna be on a panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► after the announcement I'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► on a panel i don't know any other I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► of the other people on the panel and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► I get it was only by reputation and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► wasn't good and was basically I was up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► there with one person who had a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► about celebrity babies flash she wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► it was a she but she wrote about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► baby products of celebrities with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► affiliate links and how that was growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► in another person talking about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► were hiring people you know and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► me being a one-person guy with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► person site where i run the server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► everything and there's people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► talking about hiring people in Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► so you can have people posting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► the clock and I i got up there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► said the best like that you know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► i ended up being a little bit of a karma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► sakai I didn't so I first of all I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► the mistake that you made which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► agreed to do it when I thought I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► shouldn't do it but I felt obligated did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► feeling someone's like the bride was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► asking me the same sure you are you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► thing and I mean I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► disrespectful but I didn't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► what I was in for and then once I got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► there I think I being me especially me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► of like six or eight years ago I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► some things that were slightly at odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► with everybody else up there said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► were hoping you were gonna say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► saw a lot of cameras through my site buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► a fucking camera you think this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► tutorials are free doesn't buy a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► by a fucking camera click on that link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► you're stealing from me but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► just you know I'm sorry this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► derailment like I don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► something about that and again it's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► I i'm not saying people like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► whatever doing perfect but people out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► there who are very reluctant to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► other people frame them and if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► license the song you understand what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► is that your licensing you're treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► this like a business you're treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► this like this thing and you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► you know when people try to pay you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► compliments i know you have feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► about this could try to pay incompetent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► people try to pay you and reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► like nobody ever offers you that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► unless they're gonna get more out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► than you will and they take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► tiny piece of you with them when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► that so I still you can tell this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► been like whatever six or eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► and I'm still sitting like my toadstool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► feel like a dick that I got up there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► had to explain my position alongside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► somebody who has affiliate links to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► celebrity baby products right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► Kanye and what enables him you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► brother's not going to their wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► because heavy i was writing and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► look at news site and I was on BuzzFeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► today looking at 25 people that are dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► person what happens next should be dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► that's all pictures of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► skateboard crashes and I was but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► was talking to a friend the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► and I was like what do you know what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► you really want to do we really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► do and she said I don't know I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► I kind of you know like how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► become a travel writer she says I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► like well what kind of travel writer do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► you mean somebody who writes for glossy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► magazines where they never ever ever say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► anything bad about a hotel right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► those people have a job those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► okay how to get to write the top ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► steakhouses in America for an in-flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► magazine example you started advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► company those people are published those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► are out there is different but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► not actually articles but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► magazines all around the world there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► there's stacks and stacks of magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► you could build the foundation of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► house with all the magazines that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► that basically our PR people writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► glowing review so much more than people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► and even smart people I think have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► idea how heavily I mean obviously any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► fashion magazine any travel magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► that's that's nothing gets in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► unless there is some money associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► with it right when was the last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► read a review of a really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► hotel that was basically like fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► loathing in las vegas i walked into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► hotel and the first thing I smelled was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► blood like 10 when when do you ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► travel actual travel writer you hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► ever do you think maybe finding an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► independent blog maybe you find it on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► independent blog but those people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► not making a living presumably they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► not there obviously are they're clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► not being flown around and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► they're not being compensated for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► not like a Lester Bangs type situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► where they're being compensated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► their personality in describing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► travel experience right like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► think Rolling Stone has a travel guy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► staff whose job is to just go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► just write about his the shitty gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► into and she said well what about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► new york times magazine Travel section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► and I was like what about it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► like those people perceive their job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► be that they go find interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► automatically and then and then get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► the part that seems so obviously I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► I would be perfect for that right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► oh yeah i mean that's great and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► should yeah you should work for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► advertising company because it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► like oh 25 spas in the Seychelles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► you know that don't have long lines it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► like what kind of writing is that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► read a lot of anecdotes over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► that i've got i've heard the cds this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► anecdotal I am I feeling about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► really changed in the basic anecdote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► this super fan goes up to super creator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► it could be comics could be both good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► movies they go up they go up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► person and say you know how do I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► a best selling comic book writer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► whatever and the person basically looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► at them straight in the eye and says if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► you have to ask that question one then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► you know insert answer here you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► idiot or you've never really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► about that question or you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► actually tried to do it if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► ask that question then I can't help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► it's kind of like asking how I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► president the united states what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► actually in some ways extremely easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► become president of the United States if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► you meet the criteria and you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► Electoral College victory you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► president but how do you get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► well boy sit down bring up and bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► bag lunch because there's a long road to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► getting to that point already too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► for you yeah well there's that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► gateway at the end where you see you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► your coronation and you get your sash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► and a parade but like you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► most people like in the case of become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► travel writer for The New York Times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► mean ask the thousands of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► have tried to get that job before right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► right well and and and there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► mmm and again I mean I hate to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► put everything on the shoulders of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► elizabeth gilbert I wasn't good but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► there is this the this whole culture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► manifesting like it its it puts this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that's why there are so many freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► photographers now like what do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► I think I want to be a photographer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► and I'll just manifest that and now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► a photographer like wow you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► photographer you take pictures but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► to be to be a photographer of that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► it's just like being a videographer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► AA in a I mean a landscape architect a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► lot of it is just code for like my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► is rich with your videographer faithful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► yeah and-and-and with you if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► have if you don't have a rich dad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► you're not just looking for a cool thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► to justify your time on earth but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► really looking for a job I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► should I think you should cross travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► writer off of the list of fantasy jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► because or replace it with but publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► flac great because it's because the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► that you have like jet-setting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► with a series of like silk scarves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► billowing in the wind as you visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► five-star hotels and give them glowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► reviews but have but retain your like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► personal integrity one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► is going to have to go in and look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► is this is really the old man and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► talking but the this is a question the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► very few i'll just say young people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► 90 people are people who haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► enough experience yet there's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► very few people asked which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► industry can I go into we're working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► probably hard and never taking no for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► answer and looking for every opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► and sacrificing everything would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► good choice for me because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2340">TS</a>]
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00:46:19 ◼ ► throw out thirty percent of the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► that landed tales that really makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► look like i can get heads more often but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► you're you're effectively cheating in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► that sense and and I don't recall this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► cheating but in the sense that like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► very popular today to talk about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► what you've learned from your failures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► but like nobody asked what you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► from your failures for something from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► somebody who hasn't had a big success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► so you don't hear all the times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► somebody that somebody got in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► elevator with a messy and it didn't turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► out with funding sculpture studio those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► stories don't get out and and when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► do they're only it's only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► somebody's talking that person because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► they succeeded i'm not saying don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► but i am saying like don't look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► life is a game of kino where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► keep waiting for this thing to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► along that's going to bring you up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► the same bar of success that all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► other people got so easily because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► only got it easily after having stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► happened that was not easy i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► thinking about this the other day I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► to school with a bunch of computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► science majors in the late eighties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► they were studying computer maths and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► they were designing programs that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► impenetrable with with really really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► user interfaces you know all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► exact same stuff that made certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► people millionaires and I haven't talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► to these friends and I've been quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► while but I i knew a whole handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► guys and like none of them are I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and realizing that even in my own life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► have I have the experience because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► are times when I walk around and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► God if I had just gone into computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► science and eighties over I'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► millionaire now and then I I I just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► this kind of corrective realization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► like women I basically knew all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► people in computer science at this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► college and we were all pals we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► like we were like Tetris buddies and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► stoner pals and I don't think any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► them are millionaires and they are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► working in computer science like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► people who were working in computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► science and the eighties didn't become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► millionaires like most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► become millionaires and the and just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► you're saying like the the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► do get all the get all the attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► it and over time the accumulative effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► is that everybody's a millionaire but me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► and it gets reinforced because then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► start looking for examples of that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► add to your sad portfolio to do is go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► a cruise and it's like who the hell are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► buying all these rolex watches right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► right gotta be all the millions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► it's gotta be everybody else that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► millionaire i texted me last night for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► no particular reason and see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► haven't watched just going to be dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► pics continued on next photo has a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► aperture it's macro lens i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► watched the first season of deadwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► yeah did you but i didn't i didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► it to the second season of I forgot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► how good that show stay I I what I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► I remember about that show is that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► watched the first five episodes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► particular probably five times I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► watched it all the way through once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► i watched it through the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► seasons at least twice so I've come now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► i'm up to like the fourth episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► season 2 in a week but you know it's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► that that's that's kinda what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► talking about here in some ways it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► know it's like that old it's the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► joke about you know gosh in all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► transactions the only people who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► make sustainable money not a lottery not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► lottery not a one-day lucky shot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► people who made the sustained make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► sustainable money today our lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► because lawyers will always make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► transactions financial people same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and in that case as he said so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► times whether it's san francisco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Comstock or Deadwood it's the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► sold the equipment that got rich it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► not just people who are selling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► it's not the people across the board if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► you look at the actual numbers i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► bet you that there's most people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► made the most money or probably there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► are few lucky people and then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► extremely lucky people early on and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► there was the Mutual's and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► was the people who sold the pans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► sold the shovels in the pics that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► the sustaining money because even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► get one lightning strike from energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► that doesn't mean it's going to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► in the case like you know the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► if somebody comes to your earlier travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► blog and says hey we'd like to insert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► these positive reviews of things you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► not even realize that they're in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► experiment they're doing that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► experiment with 500 other sites because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► it's not that costly for them and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► a month to figure out who got the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► results and suddenly your lightning goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► away and then you're like you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► what happened I thought I I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► hit the lottery but that's how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► like nobody gives you money unless they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► will think that they think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► making more benefit than what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► giving to you and you forget that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► yeah the city of seattle is a city built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► on the crushed dreams of a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► other crushed dreams of of a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► thousand people who headed up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► Yukon to get rich in the goldfields is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► that like one of the last places we kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► gets a prize they'll give you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► yeah Seattle of like Seattle sent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► the goods up to the Yukon and collected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► all the gold like the when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► if you did if you were in the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► handful of people that actually struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► it rich up there or made their got gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► you take that gold down to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► little pop-up general store and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► that guy would wait on his scale and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► it in a bag and send it by dog sled down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► to Lake Bennett or whatever where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► would put it on a paddle boat and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► it to the train and eventually it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► make it in to seattle you know this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► and like the filson company was built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► with originally to send close up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► gold miners and the holes the whole city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► I mean Alaska Alaska is what built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Seattle trying to trying to exploit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► Alaska but like none of the none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► names that ring out from that era our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► names of miners 50 they're all names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► you might get this half-assed named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► after you died I know even the passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► are named like Stampede pass dead miner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► path but black and horseface pass know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► all the names that ring out or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3178">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► bankers the shopkeepers the but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► gold pan sellers that they are the there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the the ones who have their names on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► I mean by the time most of the miners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► arrived at the gold was all claimed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► as they say that's right and so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► forget cocksuckers it just became it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► just became like Oh are a rush town of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► people spending their last dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► spending the last dollar that they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► they received from back from Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► outfitting themselves like a dude in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► the latest gear and and when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► sipping it then that sets up and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► they you know they get it they lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► all in a poker game right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► they're like you know have to wire home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► for the money they to get a trainer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► one-way ticket back that's why there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► couple things that I I mean it's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► that you watch tonight there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► things in again rewatching for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► millionth time that that made me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► of you and I mean one of the things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► yes yes but not the obscenity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► anything but just love the elevated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► language of course but the but just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► kind of the ethics of the town and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► importance of honor and the importance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► of sort of doing doing what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► you're going to do and doing it within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► mature is it as as weird and primitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► as the culture is it is amateur culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► where you know without anybody having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► tell you like you don't fuck without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► Swearengen like you just you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► pretty quick you know you get that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► can shit on this part of the road but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► you sure better not shit on that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► the road and nobody has to write that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► down in a book and a lot of pushback you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► know there's to the whole first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► especially as always push back a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► what happens in the United States comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► in and this qualifies all these claims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► as being illegal you know and starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► over and but and that was one part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► but also the internet just a whole one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► thing it's so great through every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► episode is like nothing is easy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► town this there's something like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► going to buy something you have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► with somebody in the case like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► few episodes that they can't even buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► what they want to buy they can't buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► land to build their store and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► love the idea of like everyday being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► this constant struggle of like fucked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► bureaucratic overhead even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► there's no rule book that everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► do is you're going to have to like buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► you'd like to say the same roach in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► same biscuit like everyday and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► know the reason that seems like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► would appeal to eat well and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► great about a show like that and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► guess i'm in a town like that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► they're always microcosms of of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► of the big world the big picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► this is kind of what i always say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► people who come up to me with conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► theories like elaborate conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► theories when you look at when you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► at deadwood and you realize like Al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► Swearengen is intent in charge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► town and everybody is terrified of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► but it's a lot of work to be elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► incredibly stressful and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► fucking up on your behalf of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► time and you are constantly mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► you're out there i have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► yeah you're out there killing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► that need to be killed but you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► know you very seldom really relish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► it's just it's just work you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► do to maintain your position because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► there's all these little grubby rats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► around your ankles that are waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► you to slip up and from the perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► of like somebody who's scraping by in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► Al Swearengen seems like he's got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► made and elsewhere engine seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► he's the he's in charge everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► his invisible hand is everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► from Al Swearengen 'he's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► it's a shit ton of work he didn't ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► for it and he then he perceives it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► his duty to maintain a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► extrapolate that out and you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► that all of the all of the International [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► systems more or less are just giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► extrapolations of that right for from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► from remove it seems like this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► opportunity but it's not pretty rickety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► always this is website Oliver coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► town to suddenly disrupt the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► and-and-and when you think about like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► the that the Trilateral Commission is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► running the running the world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► whatever they're they're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► secret rooms where men are making secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► plans and the reality is there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► people sitting around in in those rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► they are making plans but there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► there isn't this additional level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► intention behind a further curtain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► they are just guys who are improvising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► and they have power but they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► unlimited power right and it don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► enduring power that always evidence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► itself in the same way right if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► great-great-grandson Rothschild who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► always been moving his grandfather was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► moving the levers and he is moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► levers and we are all being slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► it's just that everybody is everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► scrambling and improvising too to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► incrementally and and ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► stupidly that that if human beings were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► to keep even the smallest conspiracy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► secret and alive for longer than half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► yeah you know we would be what with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► evidence would be everywhere the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► evidence would be everywhere that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► were that the world actually ran that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► everywhere that we are just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► streets are full of shit and we are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► trying to walk from one solution to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► next without getting in a gunfight you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► know it's a right we are not in a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► is no system and and the perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► the system is just that you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► you've never sat in elsewhere engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► office and watched you know the ins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► outs of how how a guy like that keeps it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► keeps the ball in the volunteer today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► exactly i mean there's like there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► three things that are difficult in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► he working with other people getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► shit accomplished and keeping secrets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► three things that I think are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► hard to do and they're super hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► sustain to work with the same people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► 10 years to get things accomplished for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► 10 years and to keep whatever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► doing a secret for 10 years all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► independently are super hard but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► what every conspiracy requires three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► the most difficult things in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► to me that the people who are the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► trustful in the world being conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► theorists they got they got a reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► they'll figure out all these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► the people who trust least in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► have an incredibly bizarre idea of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► much bad guys can trust each other right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► oh my god totally bananas that did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► could pull off something as large as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► like having stuff up here on the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► and nobody would figure out except this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► one guy and so but like those guys never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► told anybody else like how does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► work is America like how does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► yeah well and I i think i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► advantage and I feel like I feel like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► by my friends share this advantage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► but my peculiar advantage is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► really do not think that there are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► there's anybody out there that's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► smarter than I am and that is that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► advantage for me and also you know can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► can can be a disadvantage but I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► people all the time say like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► know that's just their just those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► that are just up there there are just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► lot smarter than the rest of us and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► understand I just another form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► magical thinking right and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► believe it I I have met a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► in my life across a wide spectrum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► some of them people that have tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► power and I just don't I I I mean I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► met people where I'm like wow you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► smart like that you I like the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► talk or I like the way you think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► no I mean not really and so the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► that so as a result of that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► my interpersonal relationships with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► people are a are a template for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► people interact with one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► I don't feel like my interactions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► people are principally that different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► from the way any other person interacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► with any other people and if if I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3714">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► keep a kippah conspiracy going among my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► friends for more than four weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► let's say if I can't keep if I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► tell one person a secret and not hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► back from a third-person four weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► later then how could anybody right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► like my my group of friends is a for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► group of associates and my experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► the world is just a I can extrapolate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► from that to see what human behavior is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► who and it's you know it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► it's one of sort of my theories of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► growing like the book that I'm about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► write on feminism which I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► going to be fascinated by but like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► of the most powerful people in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► are women and always happen and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► does not square with the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► narrative that we've all accepted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► women are in at a disadvantage position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► these are the men like clearly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► clearly this the culture is structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► so that men are in charge in in air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► quotes but in my own life the women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► in charge and that's true of everybody i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► know it's true of every woman i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► it's true of every man i know there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► i don't know a single man that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► in charge of the women in his family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► so there is a there's a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► tension in my own first-hand experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► between what I perceive to be real on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► the on the spin the small-scale in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► microcosm of my own life and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► being told is true in the macrocosm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► and it's always anecdotal well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► person that person will this statistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► that statistic but in the end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► reality of how I perceive life i live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► a matriarchal culture and the perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► of our culture being patriarchal is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► a is it a question i'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► unraveling I I have a theory as to why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► we perceive it that way and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► that there there's a lot of you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► statistical evidence to bolster that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► theory but my and I think everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► firsthand experiences like no mom is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► head of the family and so was grandma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► and so was great grandma and so how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► you how do you square the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► other and it's in it and it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► very much in the family of the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► like well in my personal life I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► like person x is sleeping with person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► wise wife and everybody knows it except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► for person why but we are all willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► believe that the government controls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► media perfect for the Jews control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► media you know that there that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► that there are international systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► that are better hundreds and hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► years old where everything is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► puppet puppet controlled by people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► have back engineered alien technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► but you know better but the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► around me who have everything at stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► can't even manage to carry on a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► and normal affair with one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► without the whole thing blowing up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► their faces within a period of weeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► so I know I'm going to get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► angry letters for this but I'm but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► working on a comprehensive theory i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► looking forward to that I i only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► discovered last 10 years something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► you know how it is when you discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► stuff from your past your family's past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► wow that's really surprising but wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► that really makes sense and that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► so much sense that I can't believe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► this surprising but the you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► grandfather was a very very proud man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► and you know I'm Mason and have told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► about him hey so you know from british [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► guiana and very English and extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► racist and very just just really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► pretty much what you'd expect America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► was like you know querido be carried up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► like a short bullwhip everywhere he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► he might have one on his lapel of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► you know my mom told me you know a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► years ago something that I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► should have realized which is I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► grandmother both worked and I so the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► was always described always knew my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► grandmother was a secretary that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► you know is always understood that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► was a secretary in my grandpa had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► career at Cincinnati gas and electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► right easy enough to understand and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► that sounds like the story as n that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► that's that's the story but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► little more texture behind the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► my grandfather had a pretty blue collar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► wherefore basically 30 years he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► shut off people's electricity every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► he drove around a truck and that was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► job and eventually got I think his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► promotion was he'd been there long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► enough to eventually became whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► called like case that was like deputy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► something like that but like no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► his job was basically the he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► blue-collar job his whole life but kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► grandmother's job as a secretary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► secretary for many years to the founder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► of a pharmaceutical firm in Cincinnati [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► she had a whole variety of jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► until she really just their faculties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► were not there to do it anymore but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► I found out she was the breadwinner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► the family like you get good benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► and stuff but my grandmother made a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► more money that my grandfather did ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► and to quote a line from deadwood a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► I think that i think that i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► you know and i know this is not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► anything to either refute or or bolster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► your pure your books theory but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► think he was just understood that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► grandpa would always be seen as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► patriarch of the family turn even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► grandma is the one who was responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► for them being able to do stuff and pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► their bills that's right and I I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► hearing that boy that sounds so dumb now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► like what can I figured that out before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► I no reason to figure it out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► everybody that was the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► that a family we just you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► you know it's not the kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► came up a Christmas talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► you know not just a family but about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► yes she let him she let him be the boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► i'm not saying that means anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► know political in a larger sense maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► it does but all i can say is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► that narrative as it was not just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► yeah for my entire childhood and young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► adults the thing is it's it's just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► with everybody and and the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► the the lion is the king of the jungle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► the male lion sits sleeps 4 20 hours at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► least for 20 hours a day that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and then and be the culture of lions is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► absolutely a female culture but we when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► we when we take a picture of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► lion and put it on put it on the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► it is the it's the male lion with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► big roar and he's big he's the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► line so when push comes to shove between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► him and any other one lion like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► probably going to prevail but he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► he's a figurehead he is the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► he's the male it's the mail plumage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► really anyway the the be angry be angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► letters or the or rather the the it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► don't anticipate angry letters because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► haven't really explained my theory but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► they say that we got a lot of episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► come if there will be there will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► lot of instructive I think emails that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► get from people explaining how I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► and don't understand i well I i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► i will just say in this case I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► system that needs to change is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► which grandma feels like she should let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► figurehead and isn't kind of a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► that you can't just call call that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► it really is which is the two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► trying to get by and that if it matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► and it shouldn't but if it matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► the one that's really the one she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► well that I think the system that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► makes it okay for her to the mirror to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► his power that I think is what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► are struggling against that is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► that we have been struggling against for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► the last 40 years or 50 years the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► the idea that the that what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► perceived imbalance of power is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► actual imbalance of power and so what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► need to do is change the change what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► perceive to be the structures that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► allow for this imbalance of power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► there isn't really any awareness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► the perceived imbalance of power is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► it does not actually reflect an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► imbalance and that was where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► starting from was a system up that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► components or or was in a was in a cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► of a hundred years or 200 years where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► had been out of balance after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► Industrial Revolution and was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► like it after World War Two it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► particularly egregiously kind of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► to integrate new technology was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► the imbalance kind of ugly the perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► imbalance but we've been trying to we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► have been trying to put a system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► that actually was at in a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► equitable balance we've been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► write it and put it into because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► we were not conscious of what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► people were for thousands of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► conscious of which is that Dad does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► work mom does this work and when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► it's time for somebody to stand up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► church and say our family is here and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► am the representative of it it's dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► that does that job but when it's time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► really set the standard of what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► and what are.what what our culture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► it's mom that does that job and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► thousands of years i think people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► did not perceive there to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► imbalance between the genders it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► just a recognition that dad did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► frontman stuff he did the talking he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► the he was the one that went to town he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► it when it was time for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► it was dad that did the job but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► that was that didn't mean he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► charge or that he was or or to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► degree that we wanted somebody to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► charge we it was dad that got that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► button it naturally filled that role but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► the idea that he was in charge in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► way that he was dictating to mom what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► thought or did i think is is unreal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► that doesn't exist in any family i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► and i don't think it existed throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► history and we have us we were watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► mad men now and reflecting back on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► post-war time when we were living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► these little these little subdivisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► we're all of a sudden grandma wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► there anymore it was just mom and dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► and the two kids and there was a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► system was broken but it wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► wasn't that the gender roles had always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► been broken and now we're finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► discovering it but really that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► just a a moment in time when mom and dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► neither one of them knew what the fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► they were doing and and we've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► we've got imprinted in our minds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► are somehow indicative of how gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► roles were 44 hundreds and thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► years and we're not aware that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► the anomaly that was the that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► the out the outlier era so anyway we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► living in a world now where we have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► trying to fix we're trying to fix at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► underlying cause of a of a system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► what we're we're only seeing the we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► only seeing the shadow box of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► know the the perception that grandma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► shouldn't be ashamed to claim that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► is the breadwinner when in fact you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► I think grandma was happy to have grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► Dadd be the be the puffed-up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► the stuffed shirt at the head of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► family but that is a traditional that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► those are those are traditional gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► roles and that that in that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► actually traditional for a reason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► that that is a system that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► so now I'm going to get some angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► letter all you'll be fine but but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► you know I I read the more that I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► more that I apply this theory to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► perceive the more I realized that for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► to for us to be x2 for us to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► accepted the narrative for the last 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► years that we live in a patriarchal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► society where women are enslaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► requires of us that we that we deny what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► our eyes and hearts tell us about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► people right around us like about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► own families about the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► see every day like women are in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► there in charge of our culture they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► in charge of our families they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► prime movers of what we think and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► and so how how all of us men and women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► both can walk out into the world and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► yes but the fact that there are it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► or the fact that there is violence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► against women or whether the all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► the evidence to promote the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► there is that there is a conspiracy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► giant conspiracy for hundreds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► hundreds of years on the part of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► men that are supposedly like in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► of everything who have these mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► I'm very curious to know I doubt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► much that William Buffett doesn't answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► to his wife ultimately weren't warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► whatever william warren the Oracle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► yeah the Oracle of Omaha answers to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► wife just as we all do I answer to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► the more seconds later mrs. Buffett I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► you know I'm on her email list and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► like what are you doing what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► don't go too far off the reservation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► hope that nobody takes my idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► starts working on a book because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► going to i'm going to write this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► and it's going to make me a pariah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► I i think i think there's plenty of room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► mm-hmm what are some conspiracies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► actually really happened in worked do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► well that and I think about this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► time what are the conspirators what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► the conspiracies that worked and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► there are ones that work for like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► I mean there are the conspiracies out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► what what what the what history is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► littered with is attempted conspiracies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► that failed right i think the Holocaust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► is a tremendous conspiracy that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► you know I want to clarify that you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► in the sense in this makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► they were hoping they could get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► with it and nobody would they they tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► they tried they especially the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► days there's a lot of scurrying to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► yeah they're very very well personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► document today they documented in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► extreme detail and then tried to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► it up but you know the the the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► revelation that we've had you and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► on this program that the Holocaust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► really didn't start until 43 on the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► final the final solution the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► solution and that it was over by 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► mind-blowing it's in it's incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► that they marshaled that many people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► that much material and that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► information technology and we're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► were able to successfully perpetrate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► crime on an unprecedented scale like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► that is an example of a a conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► that was predicated on the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► there was already a already all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► systems were in place and they fit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► puzzle piece of mass murder into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► bureaucracy that was all but had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► designed for for a different purpose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► know what and while they rallied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► certainly related and stoked that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► of hatred it would have been a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► harder sell to people who had to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► the machines if they didn't already kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► of feel that way if there was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► already such such a a poisonous feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► yeah right but I don't think it just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► can't just generated that about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► i think it was i think it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► compartmentalised the people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► making zyklon-b we're making it as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► a rat poison you know that that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► that's what makes it such a such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► conspiracy like nobody went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► zyklon-b manufacturers that they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► have an employee meeting and say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► ramping up production because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► decided that what we're really killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► in June when everybody in here to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► listen everybody take a knee 25 tax like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► did and this is this is the this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► whole question of complicity did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► chairman of the board of Mar farmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► yeah I I didn't Farber yeah did he know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► I mean you have to say yeah he probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► did somebody somebody went and went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► stood in his office and said we need we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► need a hundred times more of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► pesticide then we were ordering before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► wink wink when but today who knows who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► knows what was happening at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► did that guy that guy I'm sure claimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► that he didn't know and his ended it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► his sons and daughters and grandsons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► granddaughters all I'm sure believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► he didn't but at what point i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► people who knew what was happening it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► was actually pretty they did a bit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► the Nazis did a brilliant job of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► controlling information right but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► were but they were in a totalitarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► bureaucratic state and it only lasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► for two years and I you know I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► there are some listeners who would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► bureaucratic state we just don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► but it but we're not in fact like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► other conspiracy that actually succeeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► that came out a hundred years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► can you name one you know this makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► think of it and not really but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► there's an interesting distinction to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► made between an ongoing conspiracy and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► so I think it's one thing to say holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► crap somebody accidentally shot Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► and now we gotta go barium and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► tell right there at that you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► that see that as a conspiracy I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► really contrast that with the Jews run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► Hollywood sure that something real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► different kind of thing or you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► doesn't mean you know what I mean any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► these these nutball ideas that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► some kind of a pseudo formal cabal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► people who work behind the scenes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► manipulate that's the kind that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► incredulous or incredible is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► idea that that that that many powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► people all our Swearengen could work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► with that many other powerful people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► and and not have to get out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► that I think the reason it's so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► such a popular holding our imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► is that the Soviet Union really did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► control information to such a degree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► and do that whole revisionism where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► we're a little by little people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► painted on airbrush out of a photo yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► so that by the time you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► raised in in the Soviet Union but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► they're born in nineteen thirty and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► know live 2 1989 or whatever there-there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► presumably from our perspective outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► we think of them as being people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► living according to one truth that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► largely manufactured um and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► kinds of you know there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► experience walking through a Romanian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► like talking to people when they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► oh yeah well the the Commissioner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► czesc you that all the trees you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► that this was the most fertile part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Romania and all the trees were bearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► fruit at all times and Ceausescu was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► coming on a tour of the area and we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► we had to go to the open market and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► ten thousand bushels of apples and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► pay a bunch of peasants to take those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► apples and tie them in three village and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► that that for one long stretch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► road that some some group of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► didn't know any better had tied apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► in all the pine trees is a true story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► this is a story that i was told that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► an amazing story so that Ceausescu as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► was driving through in the back of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► limousine you know that the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► sitting extra could point out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► like here look look how look out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► vertel of fertile it is here in Arad we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► have we have you know we have apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► growing in the pine trees or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► but the story as told by Romanians to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► was that the point of that story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► that child is coo and the people around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► him were the ones who were being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► hoodwinked or were too stupid to to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► that you can't that first of all there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► aren't apples in the trees in April and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► second that there aren't apples and pine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► trees and and that's the story that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► I kept hearing in Romania was that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► what happened was it was a the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► culture of lives was a product of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► incremental small exaggerations where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► guy said I have the most fertile part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► the country and we're going to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► know we're going to exceed our harvest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► oh it started as that realize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► bullshitting it started as like tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► tales basically yeah and then the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► sitting next to the tables like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► we're going to exceed harvest this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► and then pretty soon everybody at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► table is going to exceed harvest this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► year and they and that goes for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► years until they have a bad year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► that now everybody's everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► already lying a little bit and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► much harder to what you know that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► you have a bad year and and and crops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► are halved right if you've been telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► the truth you could just say well we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► a really bad year but you've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► been lying by ten percent and so now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► have to keep that line up and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► like we didn't lose any crops and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► what's up but the guy at the head of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► table is making economic plans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5221">TS</a>]
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01:27:09 ◼ ► surplus and our neighbors in Hungary had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► a bad drought this year but we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► surplus so we're going to sell we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► going to sell apples to them at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5237">TS</a>]
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01:27:24 ◼ ► take that hard cash and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5244">TS</a>]
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01:27:31 ◼ ► the message goes out what we we need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5251">TS</a>]
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01:27:35 ◼ ► every department because we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5255">TS</a>]
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01:27:41 ◼ ► only have a thousand bushels of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► well we can't we can't reveal the lie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5263">TS</a>]
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01:27:52 ◼ ► Romania but the people at the head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5272">TS</a>]
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01:27:58 ◼ ► so they sell those apples on the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5278">TS</a>]
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01:28:02 ◼ ► them and not from our perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► sitting in America it's like those evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► people are lying you know they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► starving their own people to build tanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► but the reality on the ground is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► more complicated and it's a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► it's the responsibility is with every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5295">TS</a>]
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01:28:23 ◼ ► paper on in front of him that say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► the richest country in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► he's not looking for information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► makes him look that he's not and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5308">TS</a>]
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01:28:39 ◼ ► what's the real story and when he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► when he does say let's go on a tour of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5321">TS</a>]
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01:28:45 ◼ ► apple trees and apples in the pine trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5325">TS</a>]
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01:28:52 ◼ ► but but the idea that that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► that was a conspiracy that is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► from a tribunal as opposed to like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5341">TS</a>]
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01:29:11 ◼ ► its brokenness and it's a minute it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► death by a million cuts it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5354">TS</a>]
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01:29:21 ◼ ► fundamentally human in a way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► it's you know it in some sense it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5365">TS</a>]
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01:29:30 ◼ ► through a series of small lives could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► find himself on a stepladder tying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5372">TS</a>]
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01:29:39 ◼ ► story could be true then it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► understand how a nation of people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5382">TS</a>]
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01:29:47 ◼ ► willfully starved for 50 years because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5387">TS</a>]
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01:29:58 ◼ ► such total fear that nobody dares move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5398">TS</a>]
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01:30:08 ◼ ► can see how you would end up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5408">TS</a>]
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01:30:24 ◼ ► how somebody's in charge or about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMtCxm0/5424">TS</a>]
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