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Ep. 115: "Rerememory"

 

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00:00:24 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► oh it's going really well it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► it's pretty early i slept a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► very long time last night and i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► like i could sleep another very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/36">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► time I feel like like the Merlin that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► used to sleep a long time was an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► version of Merlin it was Merlin one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► point out and lately all i think of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/46">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► Merlin just never getting enough sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► but you you're telling me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► Merlin two point O sometimes sleeps 4 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/53">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► hour so Merlin 2014 has started to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► a lot of value and sleep i will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► that in this is super interesting i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► sure people but like I realize like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► many of my afflictions i could write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► down to the fact that I just wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► sleeping very well so i can I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► make myself sleep well now and I'm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► it is definitely helped my old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► quotient and all the things where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► people wonder why I'm such a homebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► and never go anywhere like but I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► go to bed 11 if i do that my dad I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/82">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► you know my mom sort of famously only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► sleeps okay yeah I guess she she gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/89">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► full night's sleep but she wakes up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► four in the morning my dad would stay up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► all night and wake up in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► just fine and you know like it get by on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► for five hours of sleep and i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► when i was young hearing that older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► people didn't need as much sleep who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► do not know if i am finding that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► personally true it means you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► young of myself diet that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► right absolutely on i still need 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► hours of sleep like a four-year-old I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► yeah I don't know what the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► successes me and all kinds of things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► like I think that my amount of enjoyment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► of life in general and many things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► specific i have to admit comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► something related to how much control I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► have over the environment like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► one reason i didn't like jobs a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► the past because I didn't have that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► control over the environment you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► be in with the overhead lights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► people and stuff like that and I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► if part of it is like when you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► control over your environment when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► get older you know I mean like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► people can't leave you alone you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► around and watch stories you clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► cat box you go to sleep hit him well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► suits you and then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► but for the morning planet I to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► DMV they needed yeah and I maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► all those like old people need less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► sleep stories are failing to take into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/162">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► account the three-and-a-half hour nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► they take sitting up in their chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► watching walkerr texas ranger you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/170">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► like that that's that counts down time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► think well yeah I mean it's yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► totally agree and but it'sit's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/180">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► like you know old people also they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► stuff like the poop less and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► that frustrates them we with old ppl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► poopless I think they do i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► inside do you have into getting old but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/191">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► I don't have i've known three old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► at least personally who you know as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/195">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► as you can know an old person they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► become very opaque at a certain age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► right when you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► memories truth but they also talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► about their poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► well I i will just say that for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► grandmother's generation I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► said this before my grandmother i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► is somewhat emblematic of our generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► she's a post Kellogg American and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► really thought and she would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► embarrassed my leg I'm so embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► and talk about a poop on the radio no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► more brand the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► yeah but you know I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► expected to make every morning you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► what's interesting he didn't leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► house you would like you know be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► out without your spots or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► I've told you the story about the priest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that cornered me and a in the fish bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► in Sandpoint Idaho happy how many bm's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/239">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► had a it's that is opening line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► pretty much yes next to where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► Johnny they learn they learn what really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► we're at the fish bar which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► bar-shaped like a fish right you walk in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► the mouth of the giant fish I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► I've told the story right we're drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► red beer which is a which is a North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► Idaho tradition a half bear half tomato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/264">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► oh god and he he leaned over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/264">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► I mean we've been chatting but uh but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► was like but you know let me just break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► it let me ask you how many bm's do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► have a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► I was like oh boy I don't know 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► sometimes none for a couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► sometimes a whole bunch all at once he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► like he's like no no that's that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/286">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► healthy you need AB you need to have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► or three good solid healthy bm's a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► this man this man is is sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► he's sitting there he's drinking tomato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► juice and beer like an animal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► telling you that you should have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► good BM zayday what he said is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► well he was a priest he's got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► special knowledge is not allowed to lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► so I so from then you know he's having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► this conversation with me when I'm 19 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► guess yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► so from that time to the present i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► always in the back of my head had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► little sort of tally sheet and I I'm if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/321">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► if 3pm zayday is the standard of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/328">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► I'm like probably 8200 bm's down like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/328">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► have so much catching up to do and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► not looking forward to it you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► not looking forward to getting take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► accounting square that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► bragging John that sounds like bragging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► to me to me the problem is if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► having three BMC they aren't good BM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► something went wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► he's saying that they were nice and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► need to have good ones and I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► whether you have to be eating in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/353">TS</a>]

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00:05:59 ◼   ► get the to the right balance of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► jello salad and and chicken cutlets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/361">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► whatever it is that they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► like green green beans let me ask john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► how much heavenly hash to eat up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/369">TS</a>]

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00:06:46 ◼   ► podcast believe me I know whereof I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► speak because as with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► episode of Robert on the line the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► show you're enjoying right now lives on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► Squarespace that's just how we roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► all you gotta do is upload your audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► file you attach it to a new post and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► boom you are doing big-time podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► it's that simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► guys I've been at this stuff for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► a decade now I honestly can't imagine an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► easier way to do it if you're ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► get started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/428">TS</a>]

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00:07:11 ◼   ► dollars per month and that includes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/431">TS</a>]

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00:07:14 ◼   ► year which is a very good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► please do remember to tell Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► that you heard about them from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► palate Roderick on the line because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► listeners of this program get a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/440">TS</a>]

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00:07:24 ◼   ► they choose by using the special offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► code supertrain at checkout our thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► to squarespace for all the great support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► with Roderick online we could not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► without i have sometimes I think back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► that the experiences I had a young man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► and marvel at them and pay what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/459">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► was what the hell was happening and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► how how do i remember i mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► people around me who can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► like what somebody said to them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► phone you're so good that is you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► good at that i do not know why these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► things sticking my head but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► every one of them is like a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► component of the DNA of my of my mantra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► when I wake up in the morning it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► three beams today something every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► you're already in the whole everyday 3pm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► today who and you know remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► Battle of Midway and also that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/495">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► stroll that-that-that-that time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► use that word wrong in 1981 that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► with the tattoos on his hands that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► insulted when i was working at steves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► Broadway is still mad at me i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► you're there like you are like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► like a mythical greek beast you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► it's kind of like almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► Cassandra thing you know you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► condemned to never be able to forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► never forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/524">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► that's right this is what scares me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/528">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► about my stupid kid is like I've got now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► so into the thing of going like my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► is just I don't know if she's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► receiving information if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► information is being poorly encoded on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► her hard drive but we have a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► with things like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► and understanding the role of socks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► being able to leave the house this get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► ready for this kit is the role of socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► you need them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► yeah because then you gotta put shoes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► before you leave that's 25 minutes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► there so I I've gotten into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► terrible habit of thinking that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► daughter doesn't hear anything and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► she'll just blow my gourd off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► remembering something deeply deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► specific from when she was two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► so you know okay so here's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► about memory that I think is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► interesting like I I know if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► most people what their earliest memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► are well first of all there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► stuff that they know because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► family told them that over and over but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► most people's memories I think start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► their memories as adults start around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► age 5 so I just assume that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► happens and they just hit reset but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► stuff i've read recently indicates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► it actually it just starts a racing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► little bit around five or six x 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► you're really you know you're getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► lot of stuff that scares me i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► what kind of bullshit i said one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► that she's going to use to guide her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► life regarding rpms every morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► it's some offhanded thing I said I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► I I still I remember like such specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► things like you're saying like talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► to the priest over the tomato beer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► have such specific recollection of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► things i can't imagine how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► governing my day-to-day life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► terrifies me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► well I i have to have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► that i think quite a bit because I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► governed by these constant little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► addenda to the constitution that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/627">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► always adding and a lot of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► ancient and i have no idea whether three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► beams a days is some kind of standard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► whether this priest was crazy or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► this was some kind of like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► or or whether it was like an invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► to join the Society of Jesus that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/646">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► wasn't like oh I was misinterpreting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► blue what he was saying maybe bm's were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► like this mouse right like a Sacramento [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/655">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► something like how many beasts me laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► do you say add a piecemeal ah oh IC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/661">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► right i don't know what the fuck was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► who knows but yeah but I talk to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► like that i have a couple of close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► friends who both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► kind of casually shrug off the the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/675">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► that they have a really bad memory oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► have a really bad memory shrug and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/681">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► normally I feel like that is a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/686">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► either a self-fulfilling prophecy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► it's a or it's a cop-out you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► oh you have a bad memory so let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► out and get a jail free card for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► distance but at but you know it within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► this within the the spectrum of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► talents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► it's obvious right about having a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► memory is something that absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► could be an could be an affliction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► you wouldn't know you wouldn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► you had it on unless you were I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► only way you would know is by comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► and contrasting your experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► other people were there like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/722">TS</a>]

00:12:03 ◼   ► remember that time when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► blankety-blank and you're like Jesus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► don't um so I guess I must have a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/725">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► memory and but that that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► descriptor for a whole lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► that we're going on you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► old like is is the orange that I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/734">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► same orange that you see we both called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► orange right but like how do you how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► you gauge you know how do you gauge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► perception except by by this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/746">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► ungainly process of trying to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► your experience and see if it's if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► squares with other people right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► these friends that are like yeah I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► a really bad memory and and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► I go way of a bad memory for like stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► that's happened recently you also have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► bad memory for stuff that happened to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► long time ago or is it just that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/768">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► not turning experiences into metaphors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► you know is it is it memory or is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► part of the process of men of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► remembering things like like changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► your changing memories into into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/784">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► metaphors or stories or or changing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/788">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► into other forms that are easier to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► hold onto and process and not kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/794">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► kind of like unintentional heuristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► where it sits your brains equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► like writing it down in the big book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► yeah right like like 25 other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/805">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► has happened that night in the fish bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► in sandpoint idaho and honestly I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/812">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► not tell you I could not tell you who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► was there with or why I was there or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/819">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► of the other sort of lead up to why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► was at the fish bar in sandpoint idaho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► and and where I was headed afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► like so so this priest said this to me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/832">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► found it remarkable i found it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► remarkable conversation at the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► I mean it's not like when you it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► like when he brought this up by I real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► back it was like whoa I've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► remember this right but you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► engaged in the conversation was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► tell me more about how many poops I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► should be having like this I'm up I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► feel like a grown-up and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► definitely grown up this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► conversation I've had before with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► with a fellow grown-up and so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/860">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► really engaged but then I took away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/864">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► you know i was also drunk but I took but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► I took it away from there and put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► the big book of my memory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► because of because I converted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/875">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► somehow into a into a story that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/879">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► was a that was a bigger story and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► know it was more meaningful and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► within the fog of this like I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/889">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► the fish bar I definitely know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► where that is i could probably find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► even but I don't know who I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/897">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► with but then out of the fog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04 ◼   ► I can picture this priest I know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► what he looked like I know right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► you're at the bar where we were standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► and I remember the five minutes that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► SAT and talked about poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/915">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► and and so why did I convert that of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/919">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► the things that happened that night you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► know why was that a thing that turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► into in a way like a marble-like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/927">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► became hard like a marble and went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► my bag of marbles and you'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► yourself wondering you're disputing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► it didn't happen or it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► differently than you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► it's it's pretty well it's a the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► doctor who fixed point I'm like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► know that this is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► happened this is your marble well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► because unlike unlike childhood memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► where you know you've looked through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► photo album sitting on your mom's lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► she's told you about the picture you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► looking at that affects your memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► it and pretty soon you're like I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► remember the time I stuck a knife into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► light socket like well do you or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► you looked at that photo album so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► times and you know but but this memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► of this priest I had no second there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/972">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► no other confirmation of it is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► like you could see it like a movie right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► you can see it but that scene playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► yeah and and the way the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► understand memory works is you recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► that clip you play it for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/987">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► Yuri remember it and then you store it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► away so with each rira memory I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/994">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► surely altered it but but I'm not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/998">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► know I'm not it's such a simple story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► right I'm not saying like the priest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► rode in on a on a like a custom lowrider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► bicycle and like there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► detail to it it's just this moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► then and within that it's a very private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► recollection of me standing next to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► guy and and I think part of what part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► why it was so so why I took it away was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► that it was one of those early adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► interactions where I'm 19 the drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► age in idaho at the time was still 19 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► i could I was legally in this bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► legally standing there with one foot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► the brass rail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► drinking an abomination really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► tomato juice half beer disgusting but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► was you know it was the flavor of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► ere this area and the fish bar is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► in the woods and that was during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► during that era of white supremacy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► northern Idaho so hayden lake and the be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► a white nationalists were very active in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► that area at the time and it so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► was all this like all this adulthood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► I was feeling in that moment like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► is what adults do they state they go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► bars and they drink like terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► potions and I'm talking to a priest like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► a real priest not it is not a junior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► priest he's not he's not a minister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► he's a priest like he's a priest who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► goes all the way back to st. Peter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► this is what he wants to talk about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► so here so I'm a math test of a grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30 ◼   ► conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► yeah right like I guess this is I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► at the time I had no way of knowing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► maybe this is what all my adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► conversations are going to be like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► going to be drinking beer mixed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► something in a bar shaped like an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► it doesn't know the animal we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► yet if we do all we know is it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► some kind of a spiritual clergy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► we don't know what it could be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► right it could be in a pig bar somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► to be grabbing can find a big-block the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► great lords day something big bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► there's a sense that outside the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► of the bar there like very quickly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► right across the parking lot and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► it's a dirt parking lot right so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the parking lot feels little wild but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► right across the parking lot you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► the you're in the wilderness of northern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► Idaho and you are surrounded by clansmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► or worse skinheads and and what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► talk about what is there to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► like if he had said how many times do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► you come a day I could have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► this is what were this is what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► talking about i guess i'm new here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► exactly like 19 19 years old and ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► to you know I could go to Vietnam right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► now if it was 20 years ago but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► easier now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► but but instead i'm learning about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► it is to be a man here if you can learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► how to be a man it might as well be from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► a priest and a fish bar in Idaho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► so why the fuck would that turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► marble and go in my bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► ok so I'm going to decide this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► another one of those i won't say it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► old person thing i'll say a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► about young people here there's a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► here when you're young you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► about your poop when you're young you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► don't think about your memories you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► don't have any reason to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► everything is running as far as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► running like a top so I mean even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► psychology classes i would hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► things like how memories actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► which seemed completely foreign because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► my memories were great i know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► what are you here think about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► like cognitive biases and go home oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► that's very interesting for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► aren't as smart as me and now like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► I kits one thing to like realize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► don't remember things you don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► things is another thing to remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► don't remember them as well as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► thought but i'll tell you what fucks me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► up hard is when I think it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► what you're saying which is that tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► that old VHS tape of that memory every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► time you play it degrades a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► yeah every time you tell that story it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► gets further even if it's not a tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42 ◼   ► it's still kind of make exaggerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► might get slightly but each time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► hearing that as well as saying it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► that's I think hurting some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► fidelity of the original memory if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► was ever there at all because it gets me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► is like when I find out I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54 ◼   ► something wrong when I have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► that I consider like a hard little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► marble and then I've been telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► story for years and somebody goes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► not how that went and I feel I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► chasing is to tell this one of my go-to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► stories and interviews for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► we've seen how to get into max let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► this the same story over and over which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► is that I had dated this wonderful woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► when i started my freshman year she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► a magnavox word processor i wrote all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► papers on it and when she broke up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► me I had to learn to you know type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► something else and i ended up going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► the maclab and every little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► is true i think except for one important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► detail i went to lunch with her one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► after she had heard this anecdote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► she said you know you broke up with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► up and all i need to do was hear her say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► those words and I went oh my god you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► right i broke up with you it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► I guess it's not the crucial to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► story but how much else did I get wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► god that's a real tentpole of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► what an asshole I I had a wonderful love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► wonderful girlfriend from New England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► with a magnavox and broke up with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► oh you jerk I felt like such a dick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► it's exactly the kind of just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► exactly the kind of thing now that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► me doubt myself because I am one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► those people who says i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► things i thought i remembered that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► like I wonder how much other stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► just get like dead wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► remember the context wrong or I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► take a step back and think about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► facts and evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► well I feel like when I when I learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► that a story that I've told a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► many times has a factual error it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► usually exactly the thing we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► about which is that I say you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► second time I went to see The Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► Dead I met up with my bro in his focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► wagon bug and we smoked pot the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► way over from Spokane and Santana was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► the opener and that was the night that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► got thrown out of the the tacoma dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► because I had a bottle of peach schnapps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► and a guy found me in through the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► that's a good story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► it's an amazing story and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► it's just peach schnapps give me a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► it said he said he said to the guy take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► away the shots that let me stay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► yeah i think this story is a good story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► yeah except that the peach schnapps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► Torre was actually ZZ Top at the tacoma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► dome and everything else was a was true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► about the second time I saw the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► Dead and the the conflation of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► things and and what what ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► like like what would what ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► just sort of the window dressing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► story because i feel like the reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► peach schnapps story or the or the fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► bar story like the reason that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► turns into a marble and you walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► with it is that I've been trying to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► that marble into the right slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► for the for the intervening 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► right I pull that marble out sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► is this where this story belongs did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► learned that because it applies here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► I and I push it into a to contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► context like the peach schnapps story at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► ZZ top fits here and I and I try it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► and that that because i'm looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► place where that is a metaphor for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► I'm trying to I'm trying to interpret a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► new experience and I know I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► carrying around this bag of marbles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► a reason and I go is that I I reach in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► and I'm like does this story finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► makes sense in the context of this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► information who and in most cases you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► know you've tried to fit in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► you're like huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► kinda but every once in a while you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► one of those where you just stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► thing in there and it just locks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► you're like holy shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► the story is completed like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► lot of incentive for you to crack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Marvel in half and make sure it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► you thought it was right so so but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► the question of like was it the was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► grateful better ZZ top like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► stuff is this is the Shocker where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► like I've been telling the story wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► the whole time not awful but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► ultimately that doesn't matter unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► you're trying to I mean that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► the reason you you made that into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► story to carry with you unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► sitting around in a group of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► and everybody's telling Grateful Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► stories and I think usually that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► it comes out you start to tell you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► grateful that story like holy shit when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► i get better the Grateful Dead story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► yeah it's better as a grateful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► story but the thing is I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► get kicked out of a grateful dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► concert for having peach schnapps don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► think you get kicked out from making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► peach peach now haha I feel like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► the security guards at the tacoma dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► at a Grateful Dead and Santana show have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► bigger fish to fry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► yeah whereas at the ZZ Top show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► whatever reason come on they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► they're looking for southern comfort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► they found peach schnapps in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► instance and like good enough you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► oh also mad still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► does the terrible feeling you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► don't change topic but i heard a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► and I really liked it was it the Grange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► now I heard a song and I felt this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► little twinge on the back of my neck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► I thought my first of all I mean thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► was this song is really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► have you heard it before or her naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► body might have her I knew I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► was pretty sure I'd heard it before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► I was fighting myself because there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► a very strong feeling I was getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► it was almost certainly a grateful dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► song and I started feeling really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► about it cuz my marble does not fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► that slot huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► and I took out my phone and I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► shazam Oh box of rain from american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► beauty see what a nice song over my what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► what an excellent album i heard that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► I was like god dammit this fucks with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► marble set because you know I sit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► listen to that and thinking like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► could be something that REM put out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► 1986 you or you know or 4586 like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► really really great and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► extraneous and it's not full of bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► is let's kick with the Grateful Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► it's very manicured and well edited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► i just made me angry but it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► good song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► american beauty is full of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► excellent songwriter and at that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► in history like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► contemporaneous with the band and crosby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► Stills and Nash and all part of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► school as those guys and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► like collaborating on records with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► another i mean they were they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► that was a that was there pop record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► it it's a fantastic album and yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► a really good pedal steel player right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► definitely plan to teach your children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► well and stuff like that who Jerry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► place the pedal steel as i'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► right yeah I'm pretty sure i'll check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► I didn't know yeah I think he's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► accomplished guy and there was some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► of thing with the recording of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► album and maybe the one before it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► something happened he ended up having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► play more pedal steel and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► pretty good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► what wouldn't surprise me I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► all really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► they're all really really good musicians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► because this fish except maybe Bob Weir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► put out but no I mean that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► Grateful Dead hate uh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► understandable you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah like there's a lot of out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► tune singing and there's a lot of I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► there are a lot of those live recordings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► there so they're so messed up on drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► that it that it's just like no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► good but uh well I've got four years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► have filed that I used to be kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► know because you know going to hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► school you end up hearing some Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► Dead but you hear about the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► Dead a lot and it's another one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► things where you're like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► people who are into tool you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► like oh I don't and I couldn't even name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► a tool song but like the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► really into to lure the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► too scared to quote Sloan who you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► the people who are really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► consolidated you just like god you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► yeah and now I think that's what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► and then as I grew as a person John i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► found it more under my more grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► thing from probably about maybe Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► revision 12 was like this is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► yeah and that was a perfectly fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► marble in a very sensible grown-ups lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► but now i don't know i might have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► back I might have to check my memories I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► feel like the the key the key elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► to be conscious of it in the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► Dead or that that they really pioneered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► the loud clean guitar tone who um which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► as Davis on pointed out the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► you here again in the Cure write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► check the clean-out loud guitar that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► not trying to be attending retrospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► unprocessed because we are processed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► right listen to something like an echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► and the bunnymen or something like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► know there will be a lot of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► shaping of the sound right but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► you're right that's a really good points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► in has a great guitar tone it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► and and he's you know he's using like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► the chorusing effects that we started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► hear later on clean guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► you know Jerry Garcia was doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► like in and out of phase stuff with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► you know he had one of those guitars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► that had 11 different switches on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► and its all all the switches are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► this pickups in phase now this pickups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► out of phase and and it creates a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► of chorusing or you know like filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► effect on the tone but really always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► very clean tone so there's that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► for me the other thing is phil lesh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► bass player never plays the same no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► twice his bass lines are these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► weaving bobbing up and down like courses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► of notes that if you just kind of zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► in on them their miraculous for because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► they're there you know whatever phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► however feel less here's the patterns of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► music it's like it's a dimension closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► to jazz or for you no further from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► surface of the earth and then where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► live and so hit the bass lines are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► really all over the place and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► extraordinary musical just musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► pieces on their own and then you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► course every every once in a while babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► they would write a killer to ever so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► know I'm gonna get I'm gonna give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► another chance that this thing is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► appealing to me because somebody who I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► guess i have a feeling that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► bass players started guitar players and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► you can kind of tell who those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► don't you think you're saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► somebody who takes the base for what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► needs to be I mean like John Entwistle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► he might have started on guitar who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► knows but man he plays that like nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► else he plays the bass in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► only a base could be played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► whereas I'm more like Lou Barlow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► like I'm out there going you know Gigi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► dcccd but did you know that I mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► yeah well good thing about Entwistle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► he he he looks so calm and implacable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► but in his bass playing there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► like ferociousness fire and fury just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► pure pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► fury and Phil lashes again like another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► step out onto the grass from where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► there's not a lot of fury in phillips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► but it's not it's not just dumb called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► noodling either he is you know he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► chasing a unicorn across a lake and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1975">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► I don't know what I don't know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► at the time you know I really don't with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► whistle I know what I feel like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09 ◼   ► because it connects with me so deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► you soo min if you listen to the WHO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► you just zoom in on the base like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► will just have a tremendous experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► at that that for me is like very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► emotional and very like I yes and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► with and i think phil lesh you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► what we think of as like the noodling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► jam bands the in comprehensible noodling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► of jam bands me a little up with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► of that kind of jazz infections like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► you don't get that stuff right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► a pretty rough road but with interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► leaving when he does something like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► express this like a little pentatonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► Phil like a little doodoo kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► little thing sounds of buildings falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► down like the simplest little like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► is the end of this part of the verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► that he'll head is just like then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► really embarrassed to say this but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► three days ago I was watching are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► watching I'm sorry i was listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► soloed delhi-based parts on youtube you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► do not want to set me on the path of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► isolated tracks on youtube a bit much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► have done it I've got quite a bit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► problem is that what I want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► going down there I'm just like stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► stop it stop it get out get out you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► listen to three-and-a-half long minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► you just listen to YYZ still with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► bass solo when you listen to the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► that's that's indefensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► yeah you are making a marble that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► are not going to find a slot for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► not going to fit this in anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► this is not useful but it's but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► thrilling you know I dive but when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► reasoning the reason i got me there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► i was listening to soloed helmet drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► tracks that was the bells my entry point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► understand how to write that down that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► something if you've ever loses that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► can't see them recently I saw helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► within within a couple of years whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► their last ya back together and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► it was phenomenal but listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► drum tracks of helmet soloed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► like the first thing that you notice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► while that snare is really tuned up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► it as a tight snare and a ringing tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► ringing snare but then use the zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► because because the thing is for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► the tune it's just kick and snare he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► not you know it's like nabil used to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► when we would do sound check and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► would you know they think i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► him hit the Tom 15 times for entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► soundcheck and then people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► well lets you know that like four times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► more times than I hit the time in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► entire set but like I just stated 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► times i hit four times during our set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► but uh but listening to the kick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► snare of of these helmet from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► isolated tracks the kick drum is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► dead-on so relentless and so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► don't think of that you don't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► that music is having any swing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► it doesn't but the put the pocket of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► is just extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► so fuck i will listen to soloed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► musicians forever in a day and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► not just not a lot it's not how the I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► really feel like I've reached some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► of a nadir of both music dorkiness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► we're just really every kind of darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► when I'm sitting there and like my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► of my go-to news is dave grohl on queens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► of the stone ages and no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► uh-huh you know the song out do I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► a hell did you do to this fills are from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► another planet but then so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► sitting there you turn it on and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► a lot quiet for a while and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► don't jump together and it's better the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► vast apart i remember i like for phils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► but because there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► guitars right so all year there's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► films and I'm looking for but to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► there I listen to like three minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► some really good don't cha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► well yeah basically my Sharona ah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► at all and all and I'm like that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► oh and as a monster it's depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► it's depressing but you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► nice way to spend an evening i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► it's better than listening to noam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► chomsky lectures I guess I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► oh you said a mouthful thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► listening isolated in a ski we just here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► it's just isolated noam chomsky mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► sounds and breath sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► we could all the word i just kept in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► smacking noises that queens of the stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► age record i have to say is like still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► real it's still a real influence on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and I admit it I can't square that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► any of the music that I make no yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► but the sound the tone the feel of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► the the attitude of it it doesn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► part of it is like I'm always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► into music not always into i find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► when I think about the music that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► it sometimes it's it stands across two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► or three Chandra's you can very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► put that into a couple different genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► yeah but still it's it really is its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► thing and but its its its aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► without being like angrily stupid if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► there's something there's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► little bit of restraint to it not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► menace and considered it identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► that's all go with the flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► who's it had it had such a impact on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► and you know go with the flow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► obviously like surfer philosophy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► stone and you know that they are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► famously a stoner band so but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► there's also like something ironic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► the delivery of go with the flow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► her or with the background of the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► it feels like a pretty aggressive take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► on that on that like goat the flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► yeah but in trying to try to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► song apart and see what it's made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► I realized that like like a lot of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► songs there's nothing to it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► it's two quarts basically it's it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► the impact of the tune is 100-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► production and attitude right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► nothing complicated about it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► nothing it's just it's just sound and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► guess that's the thing as a songwriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► that I've always like I always aspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► as a songwriter to write songs that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► not dependent on sound that the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► itself was elegantly built that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► pretty classic is a classic all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► that's kind of the classic idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► great songs you could play it just on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► piano you can play it on guitar by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► yourself right right and he doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► strings to be on like bittersweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► symphony like that i'm not sure how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► that will come across on the ukulele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13 ◼   ► yeah it wouldn't write but but solitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► man can be covered by x 700 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► artists and the and the greatness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► song shines through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► yeah I don't think another band could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► cover go with the flow and make any dent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► in it or you know that or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► it's always just going to be about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► album version is always going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► best because it's a it's a it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:42 ◼   ► sound creation and in it in a way that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► different from like the cure which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► those records are sonic creations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► yeah but like you could cover a cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► song and do it do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► cool interpretation of it and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► into something different but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► couldn't cover my bloody valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► and so I exactly what I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► thinking we're Queens of the Stone Age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► go you know how they managed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that my bloody valentine category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► although the songs have hooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► they're there pop but it's really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► it's a it's a cake of sound and you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► any one element and try and zoom in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► it and say like this is the guitar part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► it's like it's two chords it's just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► cords through a distortion boxes nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► nothing so that so as I as I evolve as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► progress like my interest in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► five years has been about trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► these sonic tapestries but i don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► that isn't my tradition and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► what I know best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► so in a way that's why I'm so why have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► been so unproductive like I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► a record that sounds like loveless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► have for years but instead he yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► haha ah isn't that the story about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► how he like nearly bankrupted Creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► Records with the the creation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► record that said that supposedly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► story anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► yeah and and in a way I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► recording of it actually was the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► like stuff that happened in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► recording was pretty simple it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► like loud guitar mic in front of the am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► but when I hear stories about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► Lovelace was recorded where he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► created like a tent out of blankets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► would poke his head out and you know say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► to the engineer like just keep recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► don't ever talk to me through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► talkback mic and then he would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► going under the black or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► look under there for four hours and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► the engineers just like you know in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► of that time it's just the sound of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► doing um would be great i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► the guys name would be great to be me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► like incredibly stressed out label owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► and you got to just kind of stick your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► head in to see how the historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► there's a blanket any difficulty he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► been doing every 90 this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► sorry man he's just under there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► feel like the lira by my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► of the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► Lovelace was that though that the vocals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► were recorded maybe extemporaneously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► lot of the time and they just would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► under the blankets and like make mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► sounds and keep the tape rolling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► they made mouth sounds until those mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► sounds turned into word sounds and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► they did it until they had a until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► had to take food and it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► don't know I've never seen tell you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► my cocktail twins parodies but I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► like you know I actually have a fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► long winters record that is all that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► vocals on 13 songs that are all mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► sounds brand Devonshire get us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► trouble a mi know ya level is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► sure my father had to do it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► sweater ice cream sundae kg always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► entertained on what I'm afraid of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► that I'm gonna die in a plane crash good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► somebody's gonna be like let's go on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► computer and find all the unreleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► long yeah I know like like they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► cop son like the estate this is the cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► in it just takes all that was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► looks like John was almost done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► this exhibitor should I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► hanging chung Tang or like even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► hand those things off to my friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► hey would you guys like to finish this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► song the job was working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► oh ok let my soul Mike Squires revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► yeah exactly handed off to to like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2696">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► cross-section of the American Romans god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► what a nightmare John would think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► all of the disgruntled ex long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► people together to report that are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► every every singer in the country that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► has some like vague grudge but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► never fully articulated that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► take some work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► oh yeah let's say I decided to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► microsoft itself let's uh let's solo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► vocals on this track see what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► really going for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► what I don't not going to add anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► to that vocal tract I think it's perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► as it is I saw colin Meloy in a bauble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► yeah let's leave that well yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► video was directed by alicia roze who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► a suspect funny video friend and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► the original sort of stylist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► photographer of the decemberists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► everything all those photographs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► you see of them you know like holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► red flags on top of a castle mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► looking like diluted minors on a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► yeah I don't little a big part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► big part of that look that to find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► early on was that all the pictures were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► taken by Alicia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► so she's a Portland she's Portland ridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► yeah and apparently she has like naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► hot tub parties to is that right i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► getting invited down to like hey if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► need a place to crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► like I don't know really terrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► you to misunderstand that invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► you know like that can really then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► this could be a memory thing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► maybe you heard that wrong forgive my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► saying but like what you know what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► you got that a little bit wrong and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► showed up with the wrong stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► well back in the old days i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► looking through some photographs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► other day and i see i found all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► pictures of me in the very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► nineties in my when I was in my modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► primitive culture i was still I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:52 ◼   ► pretty much like I am now but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► whatever reason i have found myself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► modern primitive circle for for a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► portion of my of my social like calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► and that involved a lot of mud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► nakedness and industrial music and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► early days of tattoos in in places other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► than on your forearms and of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► graphic elements other than anchors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► and I was always you know a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► outside because I'm always a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► outside of every culture i participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► in but this group of people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► didn't brace me and I embraced them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► a period of a few years we were all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► close and and covered with mud and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► of that was that we you know like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► could not put intoxicating substances in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► us fast enough but there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► i have a couple of photographs of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► like sitting next to a fire pit with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► with a like a dreadlocked girl sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► in my lap and like a a bald guy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► long goatee and like pan boots is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► playing up playing the flute and dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► around of a goat carcass like and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► at how peaceful years goat and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► what the what the fuck was I up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► I was a long time ago but then i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► guess at the time I was trying to trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► to figure out what what was next in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► world there that that seemed that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► that was the logical extension of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► hippie values would lead to I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► right i mean that seemed like next-gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► friendly anymore it was it was trending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► dark again who and and I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► felt like I needed to I need to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► boots-on-the-ground figure out what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► figure out what this was all about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► it's yeah well or like like remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► logger boots however every I mean lose I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► think back now and I'm like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► what logger boots are really expensive i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► didn't have logger boots at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► just had some old boots but like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► were a lot of people in logger like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► really nice logger boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► there's always a real high up lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► yeah right with all the extra light pole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► climbers with you and I never I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► have any money then so I never will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► didn't even go to the store to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► how much those things cost i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► Martin seeming out of my range that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► how old I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► they were they were a hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► right and I mean you could buy back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► you could get a pair of chuck taylors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► for fifteen dollars so I so I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► what you know kind of waltzing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► through that culture and definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► feeling like everybody's got amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► boots and I think the boots that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► they passed muster because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► just thrashed um they were just old but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► they weren't tall and I think back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► think now I'm like even then those boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► were probably two hundred dollars two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► hundred dollars at a time when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► making two hundred dollars a month just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► a minivan days I don't you well know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► was making zero dark zero point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► dollars a month then but like even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► I had a job right i mean i-i all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► worst thing I was going through a box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► papers not very long ago and i found up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► uncashed paychecks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► Oh No 1994 for little heart drunk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► hundred and fifty dollars that was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► much money it was incredible $350 he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► it for a reason is oversight fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► idea how how that well this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► how would that have ended up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► bombing I definitely have a lot of boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► of papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► I you know I have a stack inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► inside the front door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► I have a stack of cigar boxes that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► are that's that's probably a 5-foot tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► stack of cigar boxes and there's a cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► box for airplane tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33 ◼   ► there's a cigar box for concert tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► there's a cigar box for unused drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► tickets because everywhere i go i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► paid and drink tickets and I don't drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► so i should be able to play your meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► rather than have those out to people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► say like hey everybody i got ten drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► tickets why don't you go get yourself an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► extra drink instead I greedily keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► and I go home and I put you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► probably have $50,000 it just lets get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► you mentally calculating what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► actually i have i have a separate cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► box for like sports game tickets a cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► box for old IDs a cigar box for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:16 ◼   ► people's ideas that i find you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► looking up and down the stack of cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► boxes there are a lot of different uh oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► well I to cigar boxes i have a cigar box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► for backstage passes that are stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► and then a separate cigar box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► backstage passes that our laminate do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► you smoke that much i will also get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► another one is just for cigar box so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► yeah I collect cigar boxes so I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► out looking for specific boxes but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► somehow in one of these cigar boxes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► have an uncashed pay stub from the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► 1994 and I'm like I knew enough I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► enough somehow to put this in a box but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► not enough to cash it i can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► it's one of those like a canary a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► butterfly in China situation if i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► cash that hundred and fifty-five have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► interest on that would be well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► think it's I don't think I think it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► email on the compound interest John not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► it's a thing but what I'm saying is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► had cashed it then if i had an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► hundred and fifty dollars that month in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► 1984 would i be where I am today o.o you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► might be way down in the hole right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► with the decisions I made based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► having that extra hundred fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► set me on a separate phone you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► would not have put it into a retirement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► fund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► no but I might have bought a who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► and i'm a bottom an ice cream cake I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► might have a single auger bit I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► have bought yeah put a down payment on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► pair of logger boots I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► what the I got fired one time and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► sitting in a cafe the next day like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► of bemoaning having been fired and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► good friend Chris camellia who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► came in sat down he was like you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► you got fired and I was like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► and he said how much money do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► in the bank and i said well i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► actually been saving for the last year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► got 800 bucks in the bank and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► like what are you gonna do with the 800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► bucks and i said i don't know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► drink for a couple of months he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► you're going to take that a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► bucks and you're just gonna you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► going to sit around not work and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29 ◼   ► just drink and I was like can you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► of something better like yes I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► looking forward to this summer we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► opens up your schedule and he said let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► go right now and buy you a guitar and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► was like what it was like for 800 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► you can get a killer guitar and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► always talking about wanting to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► music you're always talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► wanting to start a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► you don't even have a fucking electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► guitar I was like well yeah you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3296">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► things like let's go let's get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► bus go to the guitar store buy a guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► and it was such a revolutionary idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► was like okay and we walked out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► cafe got on the bus went to the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► store and I had never had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► I what I had never perceived myself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► having this opportunity before and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► went down to the trading musician in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► university district and I walked in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► that blonde rickenbacker what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► sitting on a stand inside the door and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► was like well I can't afford a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► bakr and the price tag said it was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► 1967 and it was 650 dollars and it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► Gibson pickups it and I was like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3356">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► that and I picked it up and I played it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► and Chris was like people create the AFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► they were p is but they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► sixties like the late sixties Gibson Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► pickups that somebody had taken out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► filter Tron's that came with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► Rickenbacker's and put these Gibson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► you know like sixties Gibson's in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► and I was like I must have seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► so much money it was extraordinary was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► my entire was almost my entire savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► and I was like look at this thing and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► was like you can buy it right now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► was i put it down and I walked around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the store and I spent a couple hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► looking at every other guitar and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► coming back to this rickenbacker he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► like and Chris was standing there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► like that's the one you want buy it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► is what people do with money they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► the thing that they want with it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► like but but but but but it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► money and this money I could live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► this money I could I could I could drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► a thousand paps blue ribbons with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► month and he was like or you could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► this guitar and i bought it i took it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► to the counter and i said i will buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► this guitar and it was the first real i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► think in a way the first real thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► ever bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► well and that guitar was the guitar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► i started the button family players with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► and the guitar that i started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► Western State hurricanes with and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► guitar i started the long winters with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► and you remember that rickenbacker of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► course ideally still got it still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► it and so that was like know all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► because the chris community who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► have thought it was chris community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► saying like do you know what money does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► are you aware of what other people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► with money like you know how money works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► in the world and I was like I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► money works you put it in a shoe box or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► a cigar box and you stack it until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► have a lot of it and then you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► and then you'd then you drink your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► through it and he said you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the reason the reason it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► other people to save money is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► buy the things that they want which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► obviously like it you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► problem but every once in awhile you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► actually should buy a thing they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12 ◼   ► I you know this guitar was like the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► was the thing that made it all possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs 67 rickenbacker with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► Gibson pickups they are you pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► you remember that correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► yeah well what we should do is get Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► cannula on here see if he can if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► validates that story I mean I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► Chris Wood Wood pretty shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► try and steer the story toward the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► that I broke into his apartment and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► a knife in his chest and told him I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► gonna fucking it is like that clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3526">TS</a>]