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00:00:46 ◼ ► just was a bit just kind of petered out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► instead of ending with a bang but a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/48">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► because of global climate change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/53">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► city of seattle all has been enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► spectacular weather i'm sorry it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/62">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► a real trial and normally June is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► month where it rains a lot and every the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► juniors the month where everybody's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► it surprises us that this has been true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/80">TS</a>]
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00:01:27 ◼ ► have a nice you know couple of nice days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► in April and May and you're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/89">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► summer's here and then in June just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► rains and everybody goes oh what and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/92">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► forget every year we forget that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/96">TS</a>]
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00:01:41 ◼ ► like this this bait-and-switch we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► like we're being robbed and then july [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► the summer comes right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► typical seattle / summer well the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► couple of years it's just been sunny all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► June like just send me the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► sunny and 75 degrees which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/115">TS</a>]
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00:02:07 ◼ ► never realized was that when it rained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/127">TS</a>]
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00:02:13 ◼ ► allergenic components and kept them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► the ground kept them down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► kept him down in the ground where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► belong and now there's nothing keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► them down the sky is just filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► bits and they're floating around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/146">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► they're getting my nose and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► getting my eyes I wake up in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► it's like that's like there's gum in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► eyes chewing gum and my nose is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► scratchy and so just like such a global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► warming is really a really bad if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► say think it might be real I mean items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► are climate change I didn't mean to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► global warming but like you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► instance like I'm sure there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/179">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► people whose houses are being washed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► away into the ocean because they live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► a toll and there are you know the Bears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► are dying in the Arctic but you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/188">TS</a>]
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00:03:15 ◼ ► you probably could go i couldn't I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► have to you know i have to be in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► motorized chair and you make the judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► yeah because it's like a mystery writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► mr. tarak sends his regrets as I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► around in a t-shirt and shorts and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► enjoy the you know life in paradise here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► scripts itchy so identified sneezy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► I mean I suppose I could I could do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► research and take some kind of medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/220">TS</a>]
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00:03:46 ◼ ► everyday and it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/226">TS</a>]
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00:03:51 ◼ ► one of those really annoying kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► things like an old person pill where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/233">TS</a>]
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00:04:00 ◼ ► to the could you go to costco could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/240">TS</a>]
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00:04:17 ◼ ► is a you know that's a payment i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► monthly payment now for that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► that comes with there's little utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► accompanies it looks like oh i see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► rent isn't really the rent it's the rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/268">TS</a>]
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00:05:01 ◼ ► something from like light nineties you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/301">TS</a>]
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00:05:06 ◼ ► pay for this wireless that we have here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► or don't have internet right that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► that's all you got so you can't get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► a nice I ethernet connection there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/313">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► no those are your options you could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/314">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► thank you for your cooperation where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/320">TS</a>]
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00:05:32 ◼ ► hey little Barker's hey guy come on over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► here check out our internet there's none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► of that so but i have to have internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► down there so that's another payment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► then I start thinking like oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► know i i've been having this trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► downloaded this invoicing program and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► turns out that is a payment he pay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► pay for that and then now i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► nose spray i gotta get that I gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► back on i gotta pay for nose spray every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/361">TS</a>]
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00:06:08 ◼ ► when I first realized that I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► that I was not going to be able to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/370">TS</a>]
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00:06:20 ◼ ► I was like you know what I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► without a driver's license for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► time and that the inconvenience of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► that has now surpassed the indignity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► having to get one and I when I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► driver's license and then you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► insurance and I gotta start obeying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/399">TS</a>]
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00:06:49 ◼ ► get you not you know then they just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/409">TS</a>]
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00:06:56 ◼ ► you're in kind of a raw place right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► with with the expenses but but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► put this in 42 as somebody who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► those things with an office is also need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► a second set of everything so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► want to get the nasal chrome or you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► to get the generic claritin you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► that's exactly right yeah yeah so so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► know it's like when I got the iphone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► all the sudden I needed to buy five new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► cables because i had over the years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► owning an iphone 4i had acquired all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► cabling and I mean right i had a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► charger i had a cable at my mom's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► downstairs a table at my mom's house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► then but the by the new phone you wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► you wait for the you wait for the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► oh all your cables are garbage now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► I had to get all new cables and then not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/467">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► everyone in my family switched over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► the iphone 5 so we got duplicated cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► how do i trust that Apple isn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► come up with a brand-new cable with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► how do i do I have you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► you're telling me I should trust that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► you took your saying no I wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/488">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► ya know what I mean burn me once shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► on shame on you burn me twice is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► the shame on me wonder is it does do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► it the third time that it's a shame on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/502">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► internal that was going your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► miserable tell you what tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► so anyway I just feel like i might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► well just start up on autopay at my bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► and everybody shake hands with it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► starts paying him something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► what I mean like just hi nice to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► you old now you're now you're connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► via some app right somebody some tinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/529">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► what a nice to meet you now we're now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► both know it turns out we both like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► flock at all right well here's twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► bucks it like Robert De Niro and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► around getting ever given everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► twenties just goes and starts going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► your account i'm never gonna see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► well you know that's what that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► gonna happen you're gonna get you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► going to get these apps you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► just said it's just a plague laps when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► all we decided that down you know we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► long story short they basically my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/562">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► daughter needed to have a room at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► point she was a kid and and plus I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► you know pretty sprawled out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► second bedroom and so I should get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► office the only point is that like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► the time it seemed like kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► deal but not a huge deal like oh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► this office where I will go and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► do office things and it seems too simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► mio my daughter got a rope and now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► I hate how much I kind of can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► going back I would love to not have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► expense of this but it would be it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► be chaos if you go back to a pre office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► well I mean you know part of it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► the bad on me part is like now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► sprawl is on the office and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► dread the idea of having to consolidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► all of this i can probably just walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► literally walk away and set it on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► he keep the next crime i'll get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► paddle ball game in a chair you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► we'll keep the office I mean it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► like it's still kind of a weird fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► well it's a lot of hassle you how I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/619">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► could say or how committed are you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► you got like a lease and stuff i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► mean it's you know it's seattle right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► you could get anyway the the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► stringent lease in the city I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► 22 the manager's office one day and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► be like yeah you know I just um and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► no it's not was going to somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► sue me yeah no it's not that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► bound I like having it i'm just i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/652">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► using it yet because you know the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/656">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► big problem my whole life I've done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► it's like oh well if i dangled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► carrot if i put it if you know if if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► on monday i put a carrot on a string and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► I and I attached it to a fishing pole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► and I attached the fishing pole to a hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► and I put the Hat on every morning when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► I wake up then I will start working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► if i do that on monday by wednesday i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► maybe i'll have forgotten that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► that and it'll just be this carrot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► I don't know where it came from and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► wake up in the morning and i'll put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► my hat that i always put on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► I've never put on a hat in my life but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► this is the idea right I'm going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► on this hat this new that all i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► do is put on the Hat and then McCarron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► will be there and then I'll go and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/709">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► chase the carrot and I'll forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► this is all plan that I'm trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► sneak in on myself and I know it's early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► but let me try to understand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► habituate yourself to doing a work thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► kind of yeah but that's been true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► been true since i was in fifth grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► yeah and so so you know what I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► the when I was making record albums a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/734">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► lot which it would never actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► making them a lot but the times that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► did make record albums but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► there was a lot of expense involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► you had to get a bunch of people all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► pulling together actually did have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► effect of getting me at least to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► but so this office is just another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► of these strategies of like well if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► get an office and i buy a new computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► and i put the new computer in the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► and i am paying for internet at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► office then necessarily i will wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► every morning at nine have a healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► breakfast read the newspaper and by non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► your care infected but on the care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► by nine-thirty i will be you know i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► come on on my commute to your office on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► my way to the office and then i will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► there and i'll you know hang up my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► on the hat rack and i'll say because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► she's the carrot the morning Marge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/800">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► I'll sit down at my computer and i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► write the the work that i really truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/805">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► do want to write and that I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/810">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► desperately need to write but obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► don't need to write strongly enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► i'd just wake up and and and write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► without all the with all without all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► this like Bologna in the middle and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/827">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► astonishing how easy it is to wake up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► the morning not put on the carrot had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► and you know and spend like three hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► looking at my phone and then decide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► it's been a long time since I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► Fried Chicken so I better get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/845">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► take care of that before the day gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► too much older this episode of rock on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/851">TS</a>]
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00:15:15 ◼ ► router kind of line we could not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► without and then you know another day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► goes by so answer your question i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► the office i do not yet resented like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► hasn't become a thing but I paying money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► and I just don't know i don't even want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► to go down there because it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► feel so bad about the waist which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► membership i bought in the mid nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► when i went down i bought the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► membership I i decided i was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► get a year instead of a month-to-month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► because that was the only way I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► gonna it was that year membership is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► I got my picture taken i got an ID card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► with a photo on it I put it in my wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► not a single time really i did not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► go in to use the bathroom when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► walking by like that the i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► changing my route so that i wouldn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► by the gym and be forced to remember and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► that's a terrible feeling but I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► took the card out of my wallet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► tomorrow is the day here and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► terrible feeling I've done it to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► a thousand times now the office has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► turned into that the office still is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► place of hope and i still believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/989">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► because I have all these things I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► all these wonderful projects that feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/995">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► like they're I'm and so tantalizingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► close to to embarking on these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► projects i bought some about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► expensive voice recognition software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► and I'm going to attend the training yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► I haven't trained it fit I want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► I'm gonna train the software and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► I'm gonna have I'm gonna play the tapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► into the software and if i play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► tapes into the software and it produces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► even a seventy-five percent accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► documents i feel like that will that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► will be work i'll be excited to do come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► through the transcripts fix it up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► clarify the ideas begin work on a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► know on a big project a big writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► project but the dictation software could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► yeah I don't spoil this for you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► that you know it's on the same way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► feel like if i were to get transcripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► of all the bullshit I've said over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► last three to five years i have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► books they just need to be edited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► shizzle and editing is fun it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► anything I my problem was I mean God I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► have gosh I you know what i shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► hmm yeah you know there's well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► like for me I I i went and i went and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► the voice software when when I was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► similar place to what I perceive you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► be in right now which is like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► big writing thing I need to do and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► problem is that that I know I know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► this stuff and I can feel that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► just out of reach that's that's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► this thing and what if I just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► Mikey's alternated like yes I'm cases of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► sit down type you know make outlines all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► these things all right all but like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► will be pretty great if I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► walk around in my private office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► have the the dingus take it all down my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► problem was like you know what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► guess what the ending was which was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► like it didn't help and partly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► think i never got it trained too quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► right and I never could forget the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► that i was talking to voice recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► software i think that's the key turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► point a 70-percent if I had ninety-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► percent correct it was still driving me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► yeah you know but you know but it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► work you know my problem also and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► don't know if this helps her or harms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► but if when I look back at like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► gotten an office in 2008 that's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► it's an interesting point I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► something like maybe the summer of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► thousand eight something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► this is a different office in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► current offer the same office you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► that office in 2008 yeah you've had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► that whole time I had no ideas expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► i but but what you know what's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► about a funny thing happened I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► know it's ironic that I like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► the reason i got its super ironic that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► got it because i need to record podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► and so therefore now I have a street car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► going by outside that are right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► I should have really thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► through but you know apart from having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► to record things like you know what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► total of maybe one hour of music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► during that entire time to recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► music but you know hours and hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► hours a podcast the funny part is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► that like within probably a few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► even or at least no more than a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► after that like everything got so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► easier to do with stuff like my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► and I didn't really I mean I needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► place to put my giant computer and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► giant screens and my giant connections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► in my giant router and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► but the truth is that you know if i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► something to say I if I really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► something to say and I'm motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► say i can type that on the iphone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► problem and and that's that's what kicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► me in the ass is like I have all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► expense and all this trouble and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► this hassle is garbage in my office when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► like honestly to to be a writer like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► know it isn't like i have 10 books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► things that need to be edited edited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► I need to do you know the Magna Carta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► and translation or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► you know it's it's it's kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► that I have all this infrastructure at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► time when I could be writing anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► but i'm not you know that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► well it's and it's not but it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► I mean it is the it's the myth of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► it's the myth of of productivity and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► like Apple in particular above all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► their companies has profited from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► idea that we are all artists and all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► lacked was the tools and I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► premise was sort of at the foundation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► childhood education that all we needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► to do was free these peoples little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► minds and get them out of this nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► fifties model of Education and let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► play and let them have finger paints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► we're going to discover this generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► of artists and that and that that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► if we even if that were true and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► we've discovered a generation of artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► the the further lead was that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► what we want that we actually want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► generation of artists nobody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► thought that I can imagine what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► oh my god what a fucking nightmare world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► we would live in but that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► premise that my mother used to raise me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► like I'm going to let him explore his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► creativity i'm going to let him you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► discover the artist within but what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► you recall back to when we were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► school it was in completely a pardon me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► I have a have some glue and my throat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► you know there was in completely applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and there were certainly students in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► schools that were not being encouraged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► to finger paint but in general it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► much more finger painting the the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► at philosophy of education and apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► consistently done a marvelous job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► convincing us that we are all filmmakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► we are all graphic artists we are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► podcasters we are all writers and all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► needed all along was just the box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► tools and once we have those things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and we would be making the beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► things we wanted it was so easy to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► up the the record that we just made with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► the film that we're working on and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► that thing was done you know we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► completely validated and we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► helping people and so we've all been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► buying these boxes of tools from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► these toy box is really now for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► of decades and we each of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► sitting on our desk the ability to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► animation and all the music and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► like importantly that you can shoot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► and edit it and shoot it on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► right shoot it edit it even compose them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► instrument because all the musical parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► are in there you just have to cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► paste them and make a new symphony and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► you know the I mean I you can't resent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► them for it because it's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► idea and it's a beaut and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► actually made very elegant software that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► enables us to do it but but once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► the number of people that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► making films it like it more or less has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► remained constant but what we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► now is like hast giant it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► expensive gift boxes that's it on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► table tops and say look how elegant I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► him and you could be making a film on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► right now if you were just slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► of a person you could be making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► could be you could be right you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► already be writing the book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► making of the film right but you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► and it's not that you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► tools you have the tools it is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► else some other flaw in you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► already had that voice in me I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► need a elegant white box to amplify it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► every morning when I woke up and walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► that is basically just as a well stroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► voice now my cereal my serie just speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► to me in Welsh and and you know and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► that has always been the case because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► before Apple came along I mean I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► a middle-class person who was given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► opportunity over and over again the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► lessons or nobody nobody insisted that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► major in engineering in college like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► was invited to major in literature or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► whatever struck my fancy you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► and so the burden of why i have not made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► as much beautiful stuff as I as I feel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► should have the burden of that is all on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► me I that I cannot point to any to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► obstacle any real obstacle that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► outside myself and I wonder whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► it is part of this conversation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► we've been having for my four months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► years about about this generation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► on our heels that is like so that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► excited about all the obstacles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► they perceived in the culture you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► that the reason they haven't succeeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► is because of of reasons will write all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► the institutional institutional problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► that maybe you maybe you look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► when you see them as being a privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► middle-class person but that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► they see themselves because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► perceiving the all the all the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► walls that prevent them from using their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► little white boxes to make you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► been in particular all the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► don't have the little white box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► have to use a dell which also has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► the same software or maybe doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► have a dell maybe has to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► computer science center at the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► to use their incredible little white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► boxes that are available free to anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► um yeah I mean you know what I got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► of thoughts on this but i mean i'll keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► it short that one thing is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► really are still in the infancy of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► of this stuff the problem you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► describing is is not new but what is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► is that I mean in the course of wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► really you know in the course of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► kind of five years but especially above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► 10 years we've gone from so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► that were out of touch out of reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► either so I mean so many things where as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► I mean a time when the idea of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► able to pretty to write perform produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► and publish and sell your own music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► each required a different special set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► stuff that was costly maybe not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► writing you can come along and play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► ukulele but you know recording your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► music meant going to a studio certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► meant you know are buying and mastering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► an instrument getting that Preston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► mastered costs money getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► distributed to Sam Goody all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► steps you know it seems so far away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► it's partly what made rockstar seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► rockstars is that all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► required the benediction of so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► people and or you know or a fat wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► I mean you know you remember like seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► ads in the back of rolling stone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► being able to publish your own book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► the idea that generally least call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► vanity press right so you can go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► publish your memoirs and say I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► published book that I happen to about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► all 1,000 copies so I mean that's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► been something that's available people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► but it's I think we're all I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► don't know it's so different from person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► to person but I think we're all still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► catching up with that in some ways it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► just that right now i think it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► don't know how much it says about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► our artistic this is nothing overarching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► about their artistic future but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► it's just it is very easy and fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► take a photograph add some filters to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► and put it somewhere you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► collect your stars is that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► really fun and there's a it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► addictive and it's it's a big community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► kind of thing and if you want i'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► to pivot to a bigger point here but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► that case like I'm guilty as anybody of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► like saying oh gosh i said a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► I put up a pretty picture i hope people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► start it and that is what could be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► distracting or more procrastination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► making or this is even setting aside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► entire anger inch industry of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► things that we're supposed to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► know passionate about but in all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► those cases I mean everybody knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► they've got on their phone everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► opens up garage band at least once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► place with it you know people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► probably edited you know videos of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► baby when they're very motivated about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► that topic and send it to the family but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► it isn't something you keep going within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► the pivot is that this really awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► and annoying and in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► absolutely true fact which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► to paraphrase things will durant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► frequently do whatever it is that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► a lot is what you do and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► talked about in a previous episode about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► manifesting about the idea of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► professional photographer or one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► always gets me is people announcing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► third SEO expert or a thought leader it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► you know doesn't cost anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► that and you know other people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► aspiring now look up to you because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► that but it's not the same thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► showing up in doing that work every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► so I mean what William seo seo again its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► search engine optimization and it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► huge industry google yeah it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► day the basic idea is in its to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► in the least you know value-laden way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► it's a way of making sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► content on your website is being gobbled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► up properly by google but that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► darker and black hat it's a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► turning game system so that you show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► at the top for viagra or whatever right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► but anyway I mean all I'm saying is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► I'm this is I don't mean this as advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► except in as much as it is advice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► need to hear which is that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► what it really it's just a matter of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► you write you get up every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► you're right well true regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► where you are and that's what I struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► with because i know it really is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► that's the part that that we're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► this expensive and having a I could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► up if i could get up at five an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► before my daughter wakes up and have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► hour right if I wrote 15 minutes a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► every day I have so much more written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► you know all the time that i SAT around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► thinking what I really need is to go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► retreat so i can actually write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► thing i need to write but yeah I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► an office where I can do that feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► that's the advice of bird by bird by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► annie Lamont yeah it's pretty it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► pretty great book that's a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► announcer the artist with me but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that's it do morning pages ya at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► i mean i-i don't mean to describe all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► this stuff as as though it were an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► actual additional obstacle as much as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► say it is another in a long line of non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► actual obstacles but that are but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► are authentically obstacles you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► in the in the sense that in 1964 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► wanted to design a new car if you worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► for General Motors and you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► design a new car you drew it on a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► pad and then he went out and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► constructed you constructed that drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► in three dimensions using clay and wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► and shaped it with a you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► exacto knife until it looked like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► GTO in your imagination to end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► process that it took to get that drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► into production and to make a new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► was incredibly labor-intensive and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► at some point it happened every year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► know they redesigned those cars every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► year the difference between 56 and 57 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► Chevy and the 58 Chevy I mean they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► look alike at all they were redesigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► those cars using clay models and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► everybody signed off on it and put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► cars and production and were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► and I and across town there were people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► that were making missile trajectories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► trajectories using slide rules and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► know they did not have we now have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► trajectories on our phone if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► into and we now have the capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► using auto drafting programs to just we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► could design a new car every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► make a 3d model of it our printer in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► in our living rooms but if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► the design of cars now or the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► buildings or the really the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► anything i don't think i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► it's just a matter of taste i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► is objectively worse and worse all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► the easier and easier it gets to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► well i can't i can't feel like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► it in the sense that in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► it what used to be special knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► that was um that was prized knowledge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► now diffuse knowledge if you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► yourself a car designer and you design a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► bunch of cars like-- way if if General [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► Motors if General Motors I I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► imagine what is happening in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► design salons at general motors but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► have to imagine that what we're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► once was a room and some people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► theirs in their shirtsleeves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► horn-rimmed glasses like walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► drafting tables and at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► the design had to come out of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► and then if if the committee or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► people wanted modifications made you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► know they each time knew it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► you knew what the limitations were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► so it's like okay we just recorded that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► track live the bass player made a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► fun it's the bass player screwed up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► is it worth it for us to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► record that entire thing and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► shoot for the moon for knowing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► we're going to either be burning tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► that's expensive or that work that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► limitations of number of tracks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► stuff like that and all that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► so so before anyone made a suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► everybody had it in their mind that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► oh if i want to change some minor thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► about the tail light of this design this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► talented draftsperson and the designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► they're going to have to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► redo this whole thing and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► take them a lot longer and it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► it's not a question of just moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► mouse and the thing you know like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► try that let's make let's take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► and see if what if the taillights were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► oval-shaped what if the taillights were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► shaped like a bat you know it was and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► what ended up happening was the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► more or less came out of one person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► maybe you made some suggestions but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► for the most part like the the work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► getting it to to the place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► everybody could even see it was was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► lion's share of the work and i can i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► recording studio the ease of putting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► manipulating the waveform of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► baseline we're like able to grab like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► drag across the screen and grabbed 10 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► 15 points on a vector 3d vector drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and drag them to completely change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► yeah right we're at and so anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► walking through that salon who has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► clearance who is who has made it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► level of of manager can waltz by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► presumably and say what if the hole par [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► was two inches shorter and two inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► taller and everybody knows that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► no cost to making that suggestion so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► even though the designer is sitting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► the computer going oh my god please fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► he he kinda has to look and answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► let's try it and so he makes it two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► inches taller he makes it two inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► shorter and the guy goes like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► and the designer goes fuck it's worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► we call that over-the-shoulder time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► you ever if you ever go to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► print bureau that we used to go to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► Tallahassee had they had a rate in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► over-the-shoulder time rate which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► if the person with the print job stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► over you while you were doing stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► it on the computer you have to pay a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► more I bet right but you know but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► that's got to be happening everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► and and so as i drive around the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► you know I can pin i can point to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► building and tell you whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► building whether that building was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► designed you know sort of pre or post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► autocad right you can point you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► point to the you can point to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► architecture of the development of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► neighborhoods of things and at a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► at which it was no longer expensive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► design things really the quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► design just like drops and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► because all of a sudden now you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► well the design is just a thing that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► just can do and so now it's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► of how much is the matter how much is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► cost how much are the materials gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► too and so there's a designer there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► like a night then I put dragons all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► across the top of the building and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► window is is quadruple pain purple glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► and there's somebody that's like well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► can you figure out a way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► without those things and the guys like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► yeah here's here's the version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► yeah that looks good to me does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► look at you yeah okay good let's go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► it's true across the board meeting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► think about contemporary car design the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► way that they they do things now as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► they make a platform and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► platform runs for 15 years and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► every year they just changed a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► change that tail lights and the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► they make a little modification here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► little modification there was only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► way one way they that those places I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► assume are similar to apple or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► electronics maker is that I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► but I mean one reason you may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► see a revision is they have to offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► the cost of what they're losing in scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► so for example they could put out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► five applicable about the 5c because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► using the same processor as the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► what4s my phone in anyway the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► they had gotten a break because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► were buying such volume it's very costly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► to to start all over with stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► you're going to try to make it scale you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► know anything but so for my part like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► the projects that i have in mind right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► now are but I should finish my album i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► should also finish an album of songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► that are different than the songs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► I'm making currently like an album of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► songs that do not sound like the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► winters furniture she crazy my Sunday's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► record right i should finish my book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► about my walk across Europe please I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► should my wife that's about that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► should you know anybody who you let read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► part of that book is like what is with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► sympathetic but still I should finish or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► I should then write my book i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► write my theory of feminism mm which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► you know going to be pretty thick book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► but it's gonna change the way we look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► the world i should write my book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► economics again massive tongue and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► yeah absolutely oh those are hot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► now I have a really good book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► economics that's going to blow people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► minds but you know it really suits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► hard work it requires it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► research wikipedia i wouldn't heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► agreed at least three minions or i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► sit and be like what is the lab figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► and you know and then also i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► essentially if I collected all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► seattle weekly columns all the columns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► I've written in the last couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► there is the thread of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► rock-and-roll autobiography / you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► book of cultural musings i mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► it just requires like the connective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► tissue nice to think that yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► right and uh and so all these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► like Oh yash you know it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► it is because because if I pick 1i work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► on it for a little while and I'm like up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► at that other thing ever and and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► you know I have to imagine that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► that that writers have been doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► unpublished works of all my heroes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► scribbles and outlines of the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► they should be writing and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► so on but you know in addition to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► that work you know I have to maintain my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► Twitter and I still haven't graduated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► from college and other people's twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► i have to maintain other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Twitter you got it you know what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► going to make make corrections yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► arata so I mean I obviously like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► believe that the technology isn't is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► is any kind of new inhibition because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► it's just it is just given shape and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► different shape and form two very old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► inhibitions are very old roadblocks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► between as you say the real process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► just what wake up in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► writing which is which couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► simpler and yet it's not easy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► and yet each new tool i mean i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► i remember WordStar and sitting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► working inward star and having to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► for all the very simple little edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► that you wanted to make and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► feeling like this is better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► typewriter because with a typewriter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► can't go back and change a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► paragraph but but the the fact of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► typewriter is that once you write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► paragraph it at least as written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► you can go back in and cross it out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► yeah but but it's there and maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► two months later you come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► you're like why did I cross that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► that was actually the the germ of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► great idea and in word processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► software you know you i will all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► time delete a page of stuff that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► sort of deleted right i mean i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► could go back to an earlier draft but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► never do right and a lot of times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► delete as you're writing and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► like nope nope nope nope nope and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► you end up with is what you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► and a lot of times it feels like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► what you settle on rather than what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► particularly crafted you know i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► i've recently gotten to be friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► impossible to track his name because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► anybody can get this guy is but he's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► parsimoniously I think he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► inspiring times yep yep he's a good man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► now this guy is either as a webcomic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► that he puts up every day and he's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► pretty popular it's pretty super popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► and it's so he's just there in Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► and makes this webcomic and he puts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► up you know every night by midnight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► that's just the thing that he does every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► day growing it but there's so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► inspiring it's like I want to steal his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► it's not that in that sense it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► different from blogging in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► he has up you know a pretty rabid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► following for his comic but like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► just strikes me as such a smart guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► because that's if you ask what he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► you say all he does is comic you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► called this and he does that he puts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► up every night but like he really he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► interests me because first of all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► does that every day which is harder than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► it sounds having something you gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► you haven't seen the desert there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► documentary called stripped it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► about comic strips and making them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► it lots of great interviews and watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► people draw but its trajectory is real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► drudgery have to you know turn in weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► of Kathy or whatever like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► of work to it but anyhow but what so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► that's interesting to me that he manages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► to pull that off every day but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► things that appeal like you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► like a better word leverage that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► these other things so basically he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► just constantly making web comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► he's making in with these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► you're familiar with selected a he put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► quote-unquote in Macworld every week one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► of his you know cartoons is featured in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► Macworld and but you know it all started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► with this thing where he just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► thing you put on the web and now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► in turn in all those places now here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► frustrating character to a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► because he I don't think he has any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► advertising on the site if he does it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► just for his stuff because what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► done is also built this platform of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► selling so many like t-shirts and coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► cups and ice scrapers and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► it's really really fun stuff that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► love to get and I think people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► makes people love him even more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► he's like here you like the comic don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► worry about the abs like by the ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► scraper it's a really cool ice scraper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► and that's and that's his thing now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► like he's just constantly making comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► constantly putting them out but then his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► whole like revenue thing is about making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► things and selling them and either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► something really appealing about that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► me at first I love the idea of making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► thing that you sell to people like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► that's a nap or whatever it is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► something I have to admit a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► appealing to me about a physical good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► even though God that overhead that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► just crazy but i don't know i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► something like that so inspiring were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► like to me that's it that's a success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► story and what the tools let us do in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► many ways and how the changing platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► hasn't left him behind because well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► everybody's running around scrambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► trying to get more I mean do you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► look at i don't know i read a lot on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► iphone and ipad read a lot of news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► stories will follow a link somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► you know used to joke about used to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► me a hard time about you know websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► where the content is the size of a can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► of tuna and then it's just surrounded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► ads that's how I feel now I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► scroll down the page because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► just so many ads on the page and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► irony is of course they could give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► advertisers they treat them all equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► poorly but there's something I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► know I I find that really appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► somebody who's been able to and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► certainly not alone in that but the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► of like making a little thing every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► putting it out and being able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► on your own not being behold in to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► given one source of income for what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► do I find that really inspiring and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► think it's a good example though not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► everybody can do it but not everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► trying to do it and that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► we're like he's found a way using those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► tools the changes in the platform the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► changes in the environment around what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► inconceivable to do it conceivable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► you couldn't have made those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► goods that quickly and sold them 10 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► 15 years ago thats all gotten so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► easier we've talked about doing t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► on demand teach we should totally do by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► the way but I don't know I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► looking at examples where that did turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► out well and he's constantly stressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► out because not stressed out but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► it's a lot of pressure to have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► no I don't have the pressure that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► that I'm not making stuffed his pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► is that he has a thing that he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► every day and then people love it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► don't know something like I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► appealing about that i'm not about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► say that these tools don't make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► certainly can and they can guilt us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► I think we need to look at people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► are finding a way to like have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► creative voice and a way to make dough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► in a way that would be inconceivable a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► few years ago and I think that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► to change has to change even more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► more quickly like in the next five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► you know I mean well I do but but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► like and Anna and I admire your friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► too and and and aspire to that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► program channel envious special envious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► though man and there and there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► are innumerable examples in among our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► friends where it's like oh I aspire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► to have a workflow like that person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► to make good stuff like that person does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► but but i do feel like this but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► like zooming out from an economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► perspective or from from a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► look on economics it's right that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► what that is is returning to an almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► medieval economy where each person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► sort of carving little appleheads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► carving you know carving little shrunken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► appleheads and selling them up at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► the fair where each we each have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► little booth where we are producing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► matchbooks souvenir spoons souvenir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► spoons and we're going out to to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► the ren faire and each of us kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► know trying at even successfully making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► a living with our little where's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► it's it's very different from from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► I mean that for instance that is not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► you would build an interstate highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► system nor is it how you would build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► skyscraper or even work a farm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► it is it's it's very siloed it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► much not thinking of not thinking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► system as a thing that we are actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► changing but it's just like okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► the system and hear how do i find a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► within it to make you know to make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► booth unique enough that people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► here and buy you know because ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► like ultimately t-shirt sales like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► all have all the t-shirts we need and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► any new t-shirt is just a tshirt up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► there any new t-shirt is an except as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► excessive t-shirt right i mean like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► every one of us is making a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► selling t-shirts it is at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► point we're going to run out of clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► ones I wasn't implying everyone should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► do it all right but I mean but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► this is that this is the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► this is the thing we've all experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► in bands for the last ten years which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► like are we really in t-shirt sales is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► that what we are that was the suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► 10 years ago or would you rather be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► well no you wouldn't but you'd rather be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► in music sales where you are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► and people told us in 2005 that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► wasn't what we could expect that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► because music should be free and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► if you were really good people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► keep by your t-shirt and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► what you should you know that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► and-and-and-and all power to the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► power to the music is free people but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► but you know what I'm saying like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► it's not it's at that's not directed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► any one person and it isn't directed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► you and me trying to sell rock on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► line t-shirts because I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► thrilled to do it now let's solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► themselves where they thought you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► what I mean like running on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► t-shirts there's already bootleg rocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► milan t-shirts and I want to discourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► anyone that's listening to the show from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► ever bootlegging because we're our team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► of lawyers is going to come after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► like I can barracudas coming down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► tapers but uh you know what home t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► making is killing podcasts but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► but from the perspective of like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► what are we doing as humans where are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► headed what is that what is like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► I don't feel like the atomization of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► making is necessarily of step forward it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► and maybe it is that's the thing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► maybe 10 years from now we will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► back and be like oh it was only through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► the atomization of making and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► the and the democratization of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► manufacturing I guess that we were able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► to arrive at this next place which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► actually an advancement of of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► you know like an a brand new way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► imagining us as humans but building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► something new / but at least for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► right now it just feels like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► everybody's got a garage sale now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► we have gone we have lost our industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► base we have lost a degree of collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► and now we just have 1,000,000 garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► sales and and we are being encouraged at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► random and Apple or the the internet are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► our internet overlords are encouraging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► us to everyone of us have an etsy store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► but that isn't like really progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► we're back to selling our knitting which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► was thing that we've been doing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► long long time and the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► not that we have a website to do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► it doesn't change the fact that it's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► it's just knitting so yeah I mean I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► know that but I want a part of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► like with whether it's with gm's or GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► or highways or whatever it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► institutional level that there used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► be two those kinds of things but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► there's so much money now more than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► yeah i mean i-i think about like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► I definitely do not want to die if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► don't want to die unpublished I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► want to die from this life without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► having published at least one book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► hopefully more than one but looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► my shelf of books then I'm you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► I'm sitting here like lovingly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► calling with my eyes if i were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► um it it it wouldn't be like those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► right i think i think just as just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► started happening in music where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► are like what are you actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► make a CD or you're just going to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► up online like when that became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► question when that became a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► not not a question that you would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► ask abandoned thought they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► sell 500 CDs but a band that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► or a question you would ask like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► established artists are you really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► to manufacture cds or you just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► just going to release it on iTunes put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► it was like oh wow it's that happened so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► fast that music went from you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► that then it and then an album was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► something that you owned and and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► clean took care of yeah right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► cleaned and and took out and looked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► of the tized that it just became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► ours you just gonna you're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► hook it into the sea with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► else and and and your music is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► be valued accordingly you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► out of your new album comes out and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► certain small segment of people put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► on repeat or put it on their iPads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► listen to it at the gym but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► people will you no will download one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► song off of it listen to a once and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► they'll and then it's not that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► don't like it they downloaded they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► listen to it they're left how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► consume music anymore and it just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► into the things so now if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► you're like I have a new book I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► we're very very close to a time when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► question is well are you actually I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► you know how expensive it is to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► publish it as a book you know isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► just a kindle file and and so it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► book you know like let's stop kidding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► let's stop kidding ourselves that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► have that bans are making albums anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► they're not and let's stop kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► ourselves that people are writing books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► anymore they're not i was on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► with them with our good friend John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► Hodgman the other day and he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► listen we're gonna go meet george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► martin and you have never you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► read a word of his writing and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► and I was like well I mean I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► meaning to and he handed me his phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► and it was a game with he had game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► thrones on his phone and I was like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► you you actually read it and he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► i have read it you don't do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► well phone iPad Mac yeah okay do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► know I still buy them in book form and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► so but i'm sitting on an airplane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► I'm and I start to read game of thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► it's a it's a nice like the interface is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► nice that the it's definitely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► it's different but I mean but it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► because the type of the type is is big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► maybe maybe he gave the easy-to-read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► version or you know the grandpa font but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► you know you you read and then you flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► to the next page and each each screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► much shorter than a page of typewritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► book writing is like a paragraph and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► little a paragraph in a little but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► but i found very quickly that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► kind of an enjoyable way to read because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► you you kind of get you have a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► and then you flip to the next page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► and so pretty soon i'm sitting on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► airplane and i'm not talking to him i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► reading I'm reading game of thrones on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► his phone and by the time the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► landed i had read a couple of chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► and and I really enjoyed it enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► ease of reading it on my phone or his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► phone and I was like okay right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► can't be opposed to that because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► was nice that was that was pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► and it's dumb to be opposed to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► that is happening that's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► value-neutral right it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► easy and it's and it's no different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► the reading part i guess is no different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► but when I think about like I wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► book and i am happy to publish it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► the fact that it's not probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► be a book an actual book or that if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► is it if it is an actual book it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► it's like releasing records on vinyl now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► hardcover book without a slip slip case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► like a with that the cover on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► yeah that is it is stacked in a pyramid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► in the window of a bookstore right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► people go in excitedly to buy it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► form and carry it around in there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► and read it on park benches or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► you know that that that makes it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► makes me feel that makes me feel sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► which i think is just nostalgia or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► just it's just like oh that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► feel sad well too bad but but but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► changes the nature of changes my feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► about it in a and like a in a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► primary way and I think it changes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► it shatters what it is it isn't a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► it's a like it is it a mean game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► thrones obviously was published first is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► a book now I'm reading it on a phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► if that was published today like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► novel but what is it a blog even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► know what I mean like yeah I think I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► I mean you know I've always been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► interested in I had a lot of friends in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► college in particular I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► everybody I knew I kind of horrid books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► I wanted books i want to have books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3778">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► around I could totally round boxes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► I think it's I think it's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► important one way it is i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► pretty different maybe from music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► maybe even comics I don't know is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► think there are people who like books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► and there are people who like reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► and as it happens the Venn diagram for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► that is pretty tight that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► people who like reading like books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► most people like books like reading but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► I mean there are I i do i have to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► have a lot of friends that did say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► they're reading more than they ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► in years because they can get on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► with all of those books on it I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► they would never in a million years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► truck around a candidate to flip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► around you know I can't say for how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► years I would go to books-a-million in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► the nineties and you know pick up five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► books and kind of glanced through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► first chapter of three of them maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► read one of them maybe read the fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► one year later like I've always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► loved books but you know having that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► at hand i don't know i mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► it's a different it's a different kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► of thing but I take your point but do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► I mean I guess I guess it's the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► it's the in a way the democratization of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► there was a there used to be a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► difference between putting on a vinyl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► record and listening to your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► demo on his cassette recorder and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► you would you listen to your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► demo on a cassette recorder need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► like oh yeah yeah sounds good man your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► band sounds great and then you would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► put on your vinyl record that was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► know that just by the format alone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► knew was something special and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► put on your headphones he sit in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► of your computer and you listen to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► friends demo and you listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► major-label release and you can hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► difference but in some cases the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► label releases intentionally loaf I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► your friends demo has been dressed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► with a lot of expensive sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► compressed as top 40 that you hear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► yeah and it's like you know in a way yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► the the quality of the of the good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► should always win out and you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► able with your eyes closed to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► difference between something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► wonderful and something that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► made to approximate something wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► but the demo we describe the demo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► more like a sketch in some ways where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► everybody knew that it wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► finished product it was meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► something to give you the gist right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► well and and and ultimately like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► that for that because the for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► cassette demo to make it all the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► a vinyl record required as you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► describing so many intermediary steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► where it had to get where somebody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► to say like yes this is good enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► make it to the next level and that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► what I remember the feeling of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► cassette demo of my band and feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► like there's no way we will ever make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► actual album we're just not good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► but here we have this cassette and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3958">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► know like i can play it for people in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► party but now reading a novel on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► and then using that same device to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► a YouTube comic comments section or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► using your same device to read a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► buzzfeed ultimately you're interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► with the device the same way and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► words look the same team and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► very different experience of you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► reading of reading everything fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► through the same window and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► imagine that like your brain like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► work of saying like oh this is thomas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► pynchon this is good and now i'm on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► comment section and this is bad or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► is garbage right and um you will we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► not we're not we're not taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► intermediary steps of like okay I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► know I'm not listening to talk radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► anymore now I'm putting the radio off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► i'm going over I'm taking the I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► the book down i'm changing gears I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► it's just a different app essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► right and so when you're when you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► on it when you work on a novel or a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► of ideas and you're like I am adding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► book of ideas to the world conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and people are reading your book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► ideas and scanned switching between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► twitter which is a world of ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► BuzzFeed which is a world of ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► all the ideas end up kind of being in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► soup of ideas and it's hard to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► which ones are the good ones and which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► there's no we're not allowing ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4071">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► privileging any ideas over any others in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► I don't know it feel it feels ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► I that I have this problem all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► where it's like I don't remember where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► read that i read that in The New Yorker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► or did somebody did somebody comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► a chem trails website up and I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► there and you know nobody is chasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► down attributions nobody i mean III by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► posted a carl sagan quote on my Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► yes I yeah and you know like probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► eighty percent of the replies were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► wow amazing and then ten percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► replies work that's probably a fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► quote because generally any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► somebody says something really smart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► appreciates it turns out that it's fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► and then ten percent of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► labored to explain to me how Carl Sagan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► could not actually see into the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► but all of his observations were obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► and not an elite unit that's the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► saying quote right and so all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► are like wow amazing I mean that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► that was the the response i was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► to solicit but my Carl second quote on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► my Twitter was probably just one of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► 40 quotes that they read up between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► Facebook and wherever else they go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► all of them are while amazing and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► them completely out of context and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► it was hilarious to me the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► believed who were chastising me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► posting a fake quote the app that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► actually fake they didn't take the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► I did track you down and I reply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► those people at least a couple of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► until i got bored of doing that saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► attribution of the quote it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► but the best ones where the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► somehow mistook me saying like wow carl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► sagan could see into the future mistook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► that as me actually saying I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► that Carl Sagan could see the future you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► know like um like they didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► didn't perceive that I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► not that he could see the future but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► that but that isn't this it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► isn't this interesting isn't this an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► interesting remark it seems it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► apply to us now and I mean if I had read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► that in a book instead of reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► instead of like scraping it off with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► somebody else's twitter feed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► repurposing it meeting somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► it's photoshopped image taken quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► gravitas if you read in the book I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► like it by and ready to begin to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► on your Pinterest but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► maybe i would never maybe in my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► life I never would've read that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► yeah so and right now I couldn't could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► tell you contain thing about that quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► likely that was Mark Twain it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMOm7X4/4275">TS</a>]