Roderick on the Line

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00:00:24 ◼   ► hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► it's going pretty good how are you huh [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► and missed you i know you're back i'm [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► almost back [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► hm-hm can expand on that a little well i [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► don't i don't feel a hundred percent [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► back i'm leaving again in a in a couple [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► of days to do some more cross-country [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► airplane flights which is my number one [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► job cross-country airplane flight so I'm [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► here but I feel I feel like a dead man [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► walking a little bit i gotta get on an [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► airplane I gotta go do some more dumb [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► shit it's like you're on parole from a [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► plane right I'm on hot that's right I [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► got it I got a three-day pass from my [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► airplane [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► uh-huh and now i can just like walk [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► around I can breathe normal air i can [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► see the flowers blooming every minute [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► feels like a lifetime [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► it's almost it's almost it's worse than [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► just being on the plane just landed [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► that's the greatest trick the devil ever [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► pulled was not having your flights [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► contiguous my goodness i thought you [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► know the thing is before i had a child I [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► would have just stayed back on the east [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► coast for the last week and I would have [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► just gone to cafes and I would have I [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► would have gone to other cafes don't [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► know where I would have been a lot of [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► roast beef sandwiches what time to do [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► all those things that you just don't [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► have time to do now you could start and [TS]

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00:01:53 ◼   ► the book and right now I don't have the [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► reading time that you still got uh yeah [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► I could go to rockefeller center and [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► then spin around and then throw my hat [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► in the air [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► oh yeah thinking that you're in [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► minneapolis say yeah well you know [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► everywhere you go if you three and [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► you're in the air you're in minneapolis [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah you can skate yeah they [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► probably the Department skating yet but [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► you know everything i did a gal one time [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► many years ago who had a picture of [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► herself skating you know what kind of [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► one leg lifted in the air and her hands [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► up in the air in front of Rockefeller [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► Center and it was right on her desk she [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► and it was it was at her desk it was [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► facing out it wasn't it wasn't one that [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► she was looking at it was what she [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► wanted you to stop me to get all roll-on [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► Barth here but that's that's there's a [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► lot of signification in that so she had [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► she had a picture of herself skating on [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► one leg that she liked [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► that's right but she wanted you to see [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► it right she had a Dorothy Hamill [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► haircut which helped the presentation of [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► the whole photograph her and she [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► happened to be my guidance counselor [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► when i was in college i was always in [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► contact is it that guidance counselor [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► yeah she was whatever 39 yeah she was [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► actually a little little person right to [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► what was she like when she like super [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► Dinklage was she she was a diminutive [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► woman but she wasn't she she did not [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► have a chromosomal smallest think the [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► term is spinner she was a just I don't I [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► do not think the term spinner she was [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► probably four foot eleven nice forefoot [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► that about [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► that's about half of your height yeah [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► yeah that's right well when you when you [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► when you consider that at the time i was [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► teasing my hair up pretty nu square [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► solution small he'll know [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► yeah no longer boots were all they're [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► all the rage sure [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► iight man i think that's super [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► interesting i don't derail you John but [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► i don't--there's the stuff that we put [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► on our desk to have people you know [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► essentially make comments about you know [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► it's like I feel this way about people [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► with big dogs and funny t-shirts like [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► when somebody's got a big dog or in San [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► Francisco as you know two or more of the [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► exact same large dog again are getting [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► popular conservative yes they are both [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► Belgian taverns is that ok with you [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► it's Nikita and another akita but he's [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► so mean and I 40 be so cynical and/or [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► got a lot of reasons to be angry just a [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► couple bubbling up to the surface like a [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► hot soup [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► excuse me I'm sorry is this your [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► crosswalk should i have had some kind of [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► a applied for at least two be here [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► someone or someone just just recently [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► tweeted us asking us to dsr show [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► yeah and I think you just gave them a [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► lifetime of [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► but the post-traumatic stress this is me [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► what are you and your you and your hate [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► will be able to see park here in the in [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► the crosswalk for the rest of the day [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► and i guess i'll just go walk into [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► traffic if that's okay with you [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► so you're feeling is that people with [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► two dogs are that they are they're going [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► to all the expense and trouble of caring [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► for and feeding and cleaning up the poop [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► of yes to charge giant dogs for the [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► sticks breast purpose of inspiring you [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► to ask them a question about them i [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► think we see the express purpose but [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► it's like having a unix joke on your [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► t-shirt where I guess the hope is that [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► somebody else has a unix person will [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► look at looking like a little head nod [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► or something right [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► but you know yes I may explain like you [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► know there's no place like 192 dot one [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► yes like what what iiiii counties I [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► crave a head nod from a unix person my [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► whole life I've never gotten ahead and [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► just say sue had not and so I you know [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► but no no but here's the thing is like [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► you know I got a kid we walk around we [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► like dogs and we don't we don't we don't [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► she knows how to approach a dog if the [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► owner says it's okay but will sometimes [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► say hey that's really cool you have [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► you've got a you've got a what's a giant [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► dog you've got a great thing and you've [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► got a shih tzu that's really fun [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► that's hilarious and look in here oh my [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► eyes you know you're already bored of [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► the hilarious it is that they did this [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► alert you think you shouldn't be [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► surprised that people are going to you [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► know it's like the like the dad says in [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► was sixteen Candles pretty pink sixteen [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► Candles he says you know if you put out [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► those signals people going to pick up on [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that if you get a big dog in a tiny dog [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► people can ask you a picture [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sorry Dean Stanton Harry Dean Stanton [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► was pretty in pink [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► yeah and so I don't know I'm just saying [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► if you got a picture yourself ice [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► skating on one leg in your 411 don't be [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► surprised if people want to make remarks [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► well c and the thing is sometimes I [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► worry that my entire house and really my [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► entire existence is just like trolling [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► for that kind of that for 4 i'm just [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► waiting for the question you know like [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► why else do you put framed [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► romanian train tickets on your [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► mantelpiece unless you want somebody to [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► say what are these and then the problem [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► is i do not roll my eyes [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► no nice guys don't even don't love [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► yourself in with those you are leap up [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► from the couch and bolts across the room [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► platter those you ask pull out the [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► telescoping pole pointer that you always [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► have in your waist cooked well the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► lights all over slide know you you are I [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► mean that you've given me a tours of of [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► Seattle whether I wanted or not there [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► was very enthusiastic no I didn't want [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► them you're really good you're good at [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► explaining what this body of water means [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► and you like and you like people asking [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► about your train tickets and I think [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► that's exactly what it's there for [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► if i had a giant Marmaduke dog and then [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► a small purse dog i would i think i [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► would be aware that I was doing that for [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► a reason i was doing that to attract [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► attention [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► not because I just happen to like these [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► two specific breeds of dogs that [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► happened to be at the ends of the dog [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► scale right dog continuum but I mean it [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► seems like you at the very least would [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► get used to it and it's not like you [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► have like a horrible facial disfiguring [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► shin and you have to experience your [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► train accident or something but you know [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the other one is as I said I think this [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► is this is the Venn diagram on this is [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► pretty perfect for people who wear [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► utility kilts because every person i've [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► ever met every man who wears a utilikilt [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► is also super into talking about his [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► utility kilt I met a man on a trail just [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► yesterday [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► no no I'm sorry day before I I want you [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► to really all the way back yet [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► I know it's hard to know where I am I [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► went down to the Nisqually River Delta [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► at sundown and i was walking along the [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► trail and I noticed some beaver some [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► actual real-life Bieber right off in [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► them in the water next to the trail and [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► I stopped to look at them i got a tail [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► slap for the for the for the privilege [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► of watching them leave [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► and then along the trail comes a guy in [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► a utilikilt with a large camera bag and [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► a fairly flourishing mustache check and [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► we and he stopped and he was the name is [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► Lee know it's like birds pretty isolated [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► out there [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► no she's just like dat vibram Toshi's [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► you know at 1.i when I look down and I [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► got to utility kilt my eyes went right [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► back up [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► I didn't go all the way to the shoes and [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► he stopped and we chatted and he said [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► they're closed you know this is one of [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► these this is one of these parks where [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► at sundown they closed and the threat is [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► that they're going to lock the gate and [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► lock you in [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► that's kind of a threat that they do at [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► some of the parks out here like sundown [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► gate is locked and then you have to call [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► and maybe they'll come [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► maybe so he's like I got we're getting [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► out of here because the gate is closing [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► I was like god damn it and we stopped [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► and looked at the Beavers and there was [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► just something he was emanating vibe [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► that was the equivalent of like if he [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► had a foam trucker hat on that said ask [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► me about my utility kilt and you know i [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► wanna die i think i wanted to [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► communicate to him that I was a [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► sophisticated guy I was from Seattle [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► Washington I didn't need it [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► I anything up there was to know about [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► utility kilt I already knew and and [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► we're okay with I was accepting of it in [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► the same way as I would be if he had a [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► facial disfigurement from a train [TS]

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00:12:03 ◼   ► head not i'm trying to think of what [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► kind of train accident would produce [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► just a facial injury and making you yeah [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► it stops kind of fast and it's fancy [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► wine glass [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► oh IC IC I had a dream last night that I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► was on an airplane like a small to [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► propeller Beechcraft Bonanza style [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► airplane with some friends and then [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► right on final approach [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► it's suddenly spun into a dive and [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► crashed into a lake and then I was [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► suddenly alone on the plane all of the [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► friends that I was there with before [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► were gone and I was struggling to get [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► out of this plane underwater how God [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► yeah I made it even find a lot oh my god [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► I didn't even I did not even make the [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► connection I know it's a little bit on [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► the nose it probably means something [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► about sex or your teeth or something you [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► know but that's a horrible and so did [TS]

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00:13:03 ◼   ► I didn't make it up I'm here to podcast [TS]

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00:13:13 ◼   ► creative creative [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► oh that's so funny you should say that i [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► was really rereading the the Playboy [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► interview with John his wife the other [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► oh yeah and what did you discover he's a [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► rascal [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► is he does not want to talk about his [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► dogs it is not want to talk about his [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► kilt and he definitely does not want to [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► talk about the Beatles know i watched an [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► interview uh like a interview that was [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► done by what a serbian television show [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► an interview of Sean lemon and after [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► like the 20th question about his dad she [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► kind of had a fit and had to like [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► collect himself and and we walk around [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► the block or whatever [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► really I mean I sound surprised but i'm [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► not i think i would be so I mean [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► anything even vaguely mention being like [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► what like geoff emerick or Neil Aspinall [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► like at some point you're like telling [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► your war stories but a certain point you [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► might be able to talk about what I've [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► done since the mid sixties yeah and so [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► this was you know Sean was on tour with [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► his band playing a show in in you know [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► somewhere in the Balkans and this TV [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► personality really wanted to interview [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► him and really wanted to know about his [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► dad and on the one hand you have I mean [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► that the one-on-one and I had a ton of [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► sympathy for him on the other hand it's [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► like it's like sean lennon was born with [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► a great day in one hand jab at the [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► jockeys are you gonna do in the other [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► and that's a little thing to talk about [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► yet though he's got a he's got he's got [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► basically got a facial deformity which [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► is that he let ya one of his arms is [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► john lennon and one of them is this your [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► friend like how do you first of all how [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► do you deal with the facial deformity [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► that's on your arms but not one arm [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► native and second of all like there's [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► just no like Geoff Emerick at least can [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► go into a bar and sit down and just be a [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► bloke who but that's a good point that's [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► a good point but Sean just you know like [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► Anna and I feel like he's probably spent [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► his whole life insulating himself i mean [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► i know for a fact he has on the Lower [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► East Side surrounded by like uber [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► hipster musicians who [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► just you knowlike play toy instruments [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► and and get do graffiti or whatever it [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► is that young people do it looks like [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► it's like this is we you must run into [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► this all the time in the circle moving [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► but there's the one kind of cool going [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► ok I know this I know this guy is really [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► famous but even cooler things like in [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► this guy is really famous but we never [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► talked about [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► yeah we never talked about it we would [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► never I mean I know people who play who [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► have played with a with sean lennon and [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► of course after you know after the [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► initial it's like going to a nude beach [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► like that after the first 15 minutes of [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► being on a nude beach year no longer [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► scandalized and after 30 minutes on a [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► nude beach you feel like oh why am I [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► wearing clothes [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► why did I come to the nude beach and [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► we're close now I feel like an idiot and [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► after 45 minutes on a nude beach or like [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► why why do any of us wear clothes ever [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► and paying out with somebody like sean [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► lennon it's exactly like that like that [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► after 15 minutes you're like oh why am I [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► wearing clothes but also like you know [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► it's rough because like even reading [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► this interview from 1980 and it's and [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► Playboy's and playboy and it's pretty [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► famous interview from around the time [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► double fantasy came out and and you know [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► the interviewers pretty dog in about [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► pursuing you know his further [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► questioning and one of course the [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► beatles keep coming up but he also calls [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► John on that whole thing of saying that [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► something lives if he thinks of sean as [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► his like first son is like the first and [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► i think you know like with so many [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► things John said I mean I you know he [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► he's he's provocative he talks [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► off-the-cuff and when you take it out of [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► context he sounds like a dick cause he's [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► kind of a dick but I think what he [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► partly meant was like that the whole [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► thing with Cynthia like that was not a [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► great relationship [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► this is the first time I feel like I've [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► got a kid that's mine from the beginning [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► and all the way through but he did he [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► said yeah well it does feel you know so [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► Shaun's gotta hold up the mantle of [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► being like when you will try it out by [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► Yoko in the working class hero shirt and [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► like he's gotta hold up the mantle of [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► talking about his father that everybody [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► loves and misses and that would suck [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► that would be so fun for like a week [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► when you're 14 [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► imagine being like 30 and still having [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► everywhere he goes people want to talk [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► about John Lennon [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► it would totally suck but the like for [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► instance when I was on tour in the [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► Balkans they're always asking you about [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► chocolate and this guy this reporter God [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► did not come out an interview me but you [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► know that the audience at a let's say a [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► julian lennon show at pianos in New York [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► or whatever on the Leander shine [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► I'm sorry Sean oh my god the real son [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► sorry the real son not that not the [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► imposter that looks just like him that [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► sounds just like him but the other one [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► if you go to a sean lennon show on the [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► lower east side [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► yeah that there's gonna be a certain [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► number of people there who are there the [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► just because it's sean lennon but [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► they're also gonna be a lot of people [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► there who want to hear his particular [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► brand of quirky weird indie pop you know [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► like he's gonna have legitimate fans of [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► his band because it's New York and there [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► are legitimate is not people for a fan [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► base for almost anything right [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► if you're consistent if you are playing [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► in if you're playing a show in Croatia [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► like when i played a show in Croatia and [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► a guy came up to me and wanted to talk [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► to me about Chris wala there was a part [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► of me that was like oh god so you're [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► just here because of your just here [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► because this is the closest that death [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► cab has come to Croatia recently right [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► but i was also grateful for him to be [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► there you know like grateful for anybody [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► that's that gets out of the house and [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► comes to see the show for for somebody [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► like Sean I'm sure there are some [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► croatian fans of his music but probably [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► about the same as there are croatian [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► fans of the long winters everybody else [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► there is in that weird Eastern European [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► like John Lennon Colt and I mean things [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► for the rest of his life unless he likes [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► a hooker on fire he's gonna be famous [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► for one thing right by an order of [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► magnitude and so the solution to his [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► problem is don't leave the lower east [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► side millions and millions of people [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► never go out from [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► where they never go for miles from where [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► they were born [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► just stay where no one ever stay in a [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► place where no one ever asks you about [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► your dad if it bothers you so much [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► anything beautiful pulls a Clapton and [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► as like a Dulaney Bonnie and friends [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► type thing he's still going to be [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► remembered oh that's the one which [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► online and son in it you know like [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► phantom planet people no phantom planet [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► because of the guy from Rushmore right [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► any of these are nice guy is he is he [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► really is that honestly true isn't that [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► side of it star fucker that's so cool [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► that jason schwartzman yeah he's he's [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► he's swell guy and his lady as well [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► they're very sweet people i'm very happy [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► to hear that I you know I don't normally [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► I don't normally get all well you know [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► waxing like sentimental or sweet about [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► certain celebs but there are there a [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► couple I've met that just make me go [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► into this kind of soft voice oh where I [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► just I just feel so soft and sweet and [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► one of them is jason schwartzman today's [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► he's very sweet [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► there's another one you can give you the [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► initials p.r Holly rare am bonus will [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► close very close [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► 0080 the the woman from memory [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► no not pj harvey / paul robeson e so [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► close [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► PR makes me feel really soft so nice [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► such a nice person that he just can't [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► even believe that they're also a huge [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► star pam dawber know how is Pamela how I [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► was paul robeson close to Pamela dabur [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► that's Mike that's my question for you [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► you will really well apparently they [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► changed it analyst like it's not a real [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► hey it's gotta be [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► it's got its got a silent are this pam [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► rampa darbar oh it's steam when I don't [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► know who is it all rug [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► Oh Paul ride life that's so nice to hear [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► because I can second be real on the [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► bubble don't get some which way that [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► would go and i'm very happy to hear that [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► oh I just want to marry him he's such a [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► sweet person is he handsome in person [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► also handsome those eyes and a smile he [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► just ki very generous with the smile you [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► got an easy smile you smile and don't [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► you know and the thing about the thing [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► that you want jason schwartzman to be is [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► generous with the like insider funny [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► funny banter and like back and forth [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► over and he is [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► oh he's generous with the back and forth [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► in the same way that Paul Rudd is [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► generous with the like the the sweet [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► appreciative smile i think that takes [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► I'm gonna guess i'm going to speculate I [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► think that takes a lot of character [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► it takes a lot of character to get to [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► move beyond like oh you know you're the [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► guy from those movies tell me a book [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► summary story like what isn't he like [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► isn't he like the nephew of francis ford [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► coppola or something like that that's [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► right i mean that must be exhausting can [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► imagine the early days how exhausting [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► that would have been all the interviews [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► for I guess Rushmore was his first big [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► well but you think about it he's also [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► one of these people who should validate [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► our our our theory about getting famous [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► young I mean he was famous as a very [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► young person writes some might even say [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► born into a royal family should be like [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► a quarry level of fucked up [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► yeah he should be terrible but instead [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► he's like happily married his wife is [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► the sweet person also i mean i don't [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► want to overstate the degree to which I [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► know these people but jason schwartzman [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► and I have met a handful of times at [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► that time you said jason jason [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► schwartzman I things that you're going [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► to notice you're going to notice you [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► can't help but notice when you meet [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► somebody like that like when I met Pete [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► Rose metros twice and both don't like [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► extremely strong impression i love those [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► strippers she's he's the one with the [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► daughter they ain't got no arm was the [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► remark [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► I'm saying that story I don't know if [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► I've heard that story when I was a kid [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► our upstairs neighbors were with this [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► like some are best friends and it was a [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► kid exactly my age and his younger [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► daughter and I think it might have been [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► at the little mite situation i see she [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► had a situation [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► yep and she was just a perfectly [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► adorable kid with like a really [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► problematic arm and at one point I was [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► at pietros restaurant as you do in [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► Cincinnati and mr. roses dining there [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► and moms that don't run over wait till [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► he's done eating [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► he's easy again now this is his big dog [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► right he's gonna sit down restaurant you [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► gotta expect not your kids to run up and [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► what knowledge that ran over you know he [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► was he's been famously not a super i [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► don't think i wouldn't call me an [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► intellectual ok alright i ran over like [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► heroes [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► yeah Charlie hustle and ask him to sign [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► something signed has an awesome [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► monograph sent by the way do you know [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► diddly diddly Dee he said he's a scout [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► for the Reds and so yeah I don't even [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► want the daughter that ain't got no arm [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► even as a kid you you had to kind of [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► walk away turn slowly and walk away [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► wondering with giant saucer eyes I slow [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► couple of the napkin away and say thank [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► you mr. and so one what what ain't got [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► no arm simpler times simpler players you [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► know and he would dive headfirst into a [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► lot of situations lately what I i was in [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► a restaurant i'm a steakhouse and [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► michael jordan was there and you could [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► feel the energy in the steakhouse even [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► the stakes were excited but it was steak [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► house and this was a this was a place [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► where everybody else in the in the place [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► was used to be in the big wheel the Big [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► Cheese where they are you know like this [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► expensive place these are these are guys [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► these are barrel-chested guys with the [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► like jewelry guys that wear jewelry [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► let's just say all that they were all [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► like the biggest frog in the pond they [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► were the desire in the Nathan Arizona [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► like largest seller of unpainted [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► furniture [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► that's right now and so it was a little [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► bit like like Sean ono lennon on the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► Lower East Side michael jordan was there [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► everybody was excited and it's okay to [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► be excited about Michael Jordan no [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► matter who you are and yet if you're if [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► you're the only appear like the the the [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► articulated hose king or not there's [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► uncontested if you're not gonna run over [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► you know and like I put your napkin down [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► when it was really cool with my [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► articulated oats and and and Jordan is [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► wearing one of those uh one of those [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► suits that has too many buttons you know [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► what I mean like a neighborhood collar [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► jacket with like 14 bucks just [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► exaggerate its enormous height up he's [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► beautiful man and he is a he's just like [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► his poetry in motion and I'm in there [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► frankly to have a steak I i I'm you know [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► I'm gonna like sure i'm a fan of a [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► Michael Jordan in the in the general [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► sense as an institution [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► yeah I don't want anything from him but [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► it happens that we are i'm leaving the [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► steak restaurant at the same time that [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► michael jordan is and we are in the and [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► we walk out the door and we're in the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► alcove we're basically in the elevator [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► together for a minute and he doesn't you [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► know it's a I'm just trying to get out [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► the door to he's just trying to get out [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► the door we don't have a we don't have [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► any kind of exchange but we walk out the [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► door together onto the sidewalk [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► it's 1130 at night and there's an [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► eight-year-old kid standing there with [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► holding a basketball up as far as i can [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► tell unchaperoned stand this [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► that's really hard to explain and I was [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► like I stopped and watched him you know [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► graciously a although what are you gonna [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► do in that situation my hand hurts you [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► know something his kids basketball and I [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► and I just can't stop looking around [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► like where did this kid come from [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► I'm in the middle of the city eleven [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► o'clock at night how do where do you get [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► a basketball [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► and know that Michael Jordan's walking [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► out of a steakhouse know that michael [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► jordan is in this place doesn't add up [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and who got who brought him here who's [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► waiting around the corner like it and [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► and Jordan signs the ball his entourage [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► all you know hardy hardy har they all [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► walked down the street and I'm just [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► standing there looking at this kid and [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► you know the kid kind of trails along [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► behind them just trying to be in [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► Jordan's orbit and you know i kinda I [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► had places to be I went the other [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► direction [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► I never I never did determine out where [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► you know like how this kid fell from the [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► sky holding a basketball in downtown [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► seattle in the middle of the night [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► thats dark at starpower I'm gonna go [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► with somebody who works in the kitchen [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► called their sister who was watching him [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► and said haul butt over here and bring a [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► basketball and then stay in the car till [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► eleven-thirty right as daughter is here [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► he's ready to sign stuff i adjure I bet [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► it was his sister sister-in-law and she [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► was waiting in the car cause she didn't [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► care and the kid get jumps out that's it [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► you know that's that isn't an answer to [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► that problem that would never occur to [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► me it's nice it's nice to see and you [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► know and dad doesn't catch off second [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► article so I'm son how this happened [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► i've been playing the beatles for my [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► daughter you know forever hoping you [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► know that it'll catch on to take ya i [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► dont want to i'm not a pill about that [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► many things like there's a certain [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► common she doesn't like don't really [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► we're gonna make a big deal about that [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► but like actually I've been reading The [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► Watchmen to my daughter hoping that [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► that's terrific if she really connecting [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► with silk spectre to really I feel like [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► I feel like a Rorschach is her skirts [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► and roll brush it's great he's the best [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► on anyway so you're playing the beatles [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► for your daughter you know doing that [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► forever and like in fact there's certain [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► kind of certain records that would like [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► going to rotation for certain events [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► like you know for what we graduated from [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► toy story 2 always listening to that [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► Queen like best queen album went to pick [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► her up from school to where she get like [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► saying you know somebody to love which [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► practically made me cry was so great but [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► then we got into aside one of [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► the white album we listened to a lot so [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► she's she knows the beatles a little bit [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► i was looking at a hard day's night was [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► after bath time was not official TV time [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► I wish I shouldn't have the TV on it was [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► a you know an attractive nuisance and [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► she came out and she started watching a [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► hard day's night and she thought it was [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► a riot understand this is a kid his [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► favorite movie right now is duck soup so [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► she she loves she thought was hilarious [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► and and so you can tell she's really [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► into it because when there's a line [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► whether she understands the line or not [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► she'll turn to me with a giant grin and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► repeat the line to me he says the craft [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► was very clean is a very clean and and [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► but she loved it and so I I and this was [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► concomitant with me going back and [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► rewatching the anthology videos I've [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► been watching hours and hours and hours [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► of the nineties anthology videos which [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► are you a hundred percent Beatles [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► approved and everything [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► yeah but still just going back and [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► watching [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► mmm somewhere between the second and [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► fourth episodes when Beatlemania really [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► kicks in the oven but last night we were [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► watching these together and i was [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► showing her the circa 6450 boy 64 [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► arriving in America and I was like sure [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► like showing them at Shea Stadium when [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► they couldn't they didn't have been a [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► monitors that George Martin points out [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► that monitors wrinkle could hear was no [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► because you're anything there folks [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► would bounce back and like a second and [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► a half [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► can you imagine you're sitting there [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► every night there's people running at [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► you you have police literally protecting [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► people from running at you and you have [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► no idea what they want [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► I mean I and i said to my daughter like [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► what do you think of that she's like why [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► they had to put up a fence that's crazy [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► everybody's running around like I said [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► you know to permit wife is like to me [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► that would be really fun for about an [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► hour and now you about all that i would [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► need of that to be to wear like you [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► can't even like going to a hotel hallway [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► let alone the lobby let alone a [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► steakhouse your life is just going to [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► make me really [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► rewatching I mean I know I know this but [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► it really makes me really appreciate [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► somebody who is a smartass and slightly [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► depressed person like John like [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► appreciating like what life must have [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► turned into for those guys it's been [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► obvious you know fifty-year-old point [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► but it's bananas to see how crazy it [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► really was and how their lives are [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► completely turned upside down by it [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► do you remember the first time you saw a [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► hard day's night [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► I feel I don't remember specifically i [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► feel like i might have seen it in [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► college we have much a laser discs at [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► our media center and i think i might [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► have watched it there but i think i saw [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► it before in my twenties very I you know [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► early on in the like go rent a VHS tape [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► and a VHS rental place which would have [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► been in high school like video rental [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► stores didn't blow up until much later [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► but there was one in Anchorage early on [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► in high school for me and one day of [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► eating roll and a hard day's night [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► eating raoul my dinner with Andre was [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► frequently available and yeah right and [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► and uh no no there there was a store and [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► we definitely went to it because i [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► remember they my friend sent me to get a [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► movie one time and I brought back [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► um what's the one about the the morbid [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► death-obsessed kid and his [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► eight-year-old girl friend helped mod [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► right I brought back Harold and Maude [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► and all my friends were like excited to [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► curl up on the couch together and drink [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► a couple of Stroh's much robots push it [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► to hell yea writer or that was even [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► before robots blowing shit up but you [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► know they wanted to watch of those [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► leaves until of Caddyshack er yeah [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► Porky's and I I brought back Harold and [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► Maude and then and half the people fell [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► asleep and the other half just stayed [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► awake out of pure fury at me and I was [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► like this movie is amazing and I was [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► like I was banned forever but well at [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► one of those little parties probably [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► night their 10th grade we watched a hard [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► day's night and I was already a Beatles [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► fan but you know the the the excitement [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► that is captured in that movie the charm [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► of those guys and the and the fact as [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► you're saying that that they were they [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► were having a completely unprecedented [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► experienced unprecedented in human [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► history except maybe but maybe maybe [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► Napoleon [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► had a similar people like God what like [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► Rudy Vallee and Frank Sinatra had had it [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► but you know not unlike that [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► international level that they were right [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► and I mean those guys would like walk [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► out the stage door of the paramount [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► theatre on you know Broadway in 40 [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► seconds and there would be a UH a mob of [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► girls let's say even a thousand girls [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► but every women i'm showing us and this [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► is going to get them bees right when i [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► got those the Queen gave them their [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► words and their I i I'm sitting there [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► and watching teenage girls literally [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► climbing over the 20-foot gates at [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► Buckingham Palace imagine if you did [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► that today it's called you lately [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► completely bananas not the bodies loser [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► is thrown exactly but you know there may [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► be a reason Merlin that we talk so much [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► about the Beatles and Hitler on this [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► program i'm listening because in that in [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► our in our formative years the to the [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that they are the two modern figures the [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► beatles being one of a piece right the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► two modern figures that have generated [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► that amount of mass adulation like the [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► Beatles those crowd scenes and and [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► people freaking out about the Beatles [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and then the the you know the Nuremberg [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► rallies and the torchlight rallies like [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► they are of a family and they don't have [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► there's there's no third equivalent [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► right Stalin and Mao had cult of [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► personality but they didn't have [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► rapturous followers [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► yeah when you see people like a in the [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► early days and again this before the man [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► you the total manufacture of these kinds [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► of scenes you just see those women in [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► durndle is like leaning out like with [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► flowers looking like they were losing [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► their mind like he was a rock star star [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► so so but what's so amazing about a hard [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► day's night is every subsequent movie [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► like concert movie [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► rock rock band movie about a young [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► musician getting famous [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► it is taking place in a post hard day's [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► night world right [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► every subsequent person to get massively [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► famous knows that the beatles have done [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► this already and every everywhere they [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► go people are saying you're as big as [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► the Beatles and everybody knows that [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► that's a lie right like like to be [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► compared to the beatles is the highest [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► compliment you can pay to somebody who's [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► people never replace the beatles in [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► terms of those comparisons [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► yeah nobody ever said they sold more [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► records and listen Slim Whitman combined [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► yeah nobody know there's no new [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► equivalent and I wonder how long in [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► human history there will be how long it [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► will take before there is before that [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► resets and there's no institutional [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► memory of the beatles right and it and [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► there's a new person who becomes the [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► person is bigger than Jesus but but but [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► what's incredible about that about a [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► hard day's night for me is that all of [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► that is going on and they they have a [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► kind of smug confidence but they also [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► are so so charming and self-effacing and [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► small still you know what I mean like [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► yeah like they are still teasing Ringo [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► and Ringo could still could still [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► honestly be kind of the lonely one or [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► whatever you know like I don't know if [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► there's something about it that that I [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► think about every rock documentary I've [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► seen since then and the and everybody is [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► so knowing now and so self-aware and so [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► the smugness over takes up all the you [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► know that overshadows the charm that got [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► them there right and it should have been [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► anywhere near as successful as a piece [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► of art as it is I'm because it's pretty [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► it's really i think it's a very bold [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► movie even to this day it's so fresh and [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► the grandfather is so perfect it's just [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► his expressions in that movie the [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► goddamn funny i hate the ending of [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► artist night wasn't it happened exactly [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► nobody even knows it ends with the [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► helicopter flying off and they and [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► they're throwing out the fake signed [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► photographs uh [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► aspen all is throwing the weekend at the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► beach parties like you think about any [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► of the rock-and-roll movies before that [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► and they were closer what I would think [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► of as a review the kind of things you [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► see on broadway in the twenties and [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► thirties a collection of songs you know [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► being performed with only the loosest [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► narrative involved right and in this I [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► mean is so great that they're able to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► capitalize on the image of the beatles [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► as being popular without it being stupid [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► and without being smug for the most part [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► and so fresh it didn't hurt also that [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► the songs are pretty great [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► yeah the songs are all right and they're [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► all so cute but but it makes me it makes [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► me think I was having a conversation [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► with a good friend of ours the other day [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► and I was I was kind of reducing my [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► theory of performance Feynman [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► performance to kind of binary code as we [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► like to do two kinds of people in this [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► world that ends well [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► winners losers to come two kinds of [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► people in this world here's the thing [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► about staying living dying [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► mhm um together trouble in this world [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► star uh and and what I kind of realized [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► was that most of most of the performers [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► I know can be their motivation can be [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► described either as being primarily in [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► order to have people love them [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► right like we all know a lot of [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► performers who who want love like a [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► validation based location but wait wait [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► there that that that's the what I would [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► describe that as the other ok so to be [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► loved is a kind of pure experience in [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► and of itself that doesn't it isn't it [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► doesn't have a up a further motivation [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► beyond just like the feeling of that [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► wall of a door [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► nation so somebody knows who you are and [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► they like what you do and they like you [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► and they're like yeah right they are [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► projecting like on you and you are [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► experiencing that like and that feeling [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► is so positive that it you know becomes [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► a kind of addiction you don't want to [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► get off the stage you'll go up on any [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► stage because it gives you an [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► opportunity to have exposure to that [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► like right and i would put Paul [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► McCartney in that category [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► Paul has an uncomplicated relationship [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► with stardom he likes it he wants to be [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► liked and she he knows he's likeable and [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► then the other motivation is to be 100 [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► other way I described it the other day [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► was to be proved right to order to be [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► validated right and if you think if you [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► think about just sitting there blindly [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► speculating which when you look well i [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► think i'm absolutely somebody who wants [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► to be vindicated and i think john lennon [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► was also somebody who wanted to be [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► vindicated he wanted to be proved right [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► and all the adulation was in the in the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► service of a of a secondary goal he you [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► know like sure he liked feeling the love [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► but but more importantly he wanted to be [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► proved right and you know sadly that was [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► also Hitler's motivation he wanted to be [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► he wanted to be proved right [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► more than you want to call childhood no [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► strong father figure loves to paint [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► through and when you think about it [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► online when you think about like like I [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► think Ringo probably just wanted to be [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► loved and I think George Harrison wanted [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► to be vindicated [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► and if you go and look at every sort of [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► famous person and the way they carry [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► themselves on the way they handle their [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► fame you can see this pretty clear i [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► should people shade one way or the other [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► do they want to be loved first and you [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► know or do they do they have something [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► to prove do they want to be they want to [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► be proved right [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► and the sad thing is both things seem [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► bottomless right you can always be loved [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► more and you can never actually fully be [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► proved right [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► ya na that you there's no way to ever [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► get enough of that I think Paul I'm sure [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► was trying for everybody but Pauline [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► says much that he was the one who was [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► still having a pretty good time throw [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► through a lot of that you know Ringo is [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► it was frustrating Ringo because when [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► he's playing live you couldn't hear it [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► was doing he felt like he wasn't getting [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► better as a musician but you know you're [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► right there on the one hand you and in [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► your model in the foot what he called [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► the first one to be loved to be loved vs [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► to be vindicated now to be loved is it [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► almost it's not hard but it doesn't [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► require a lot of sophistication from the [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► person who's loving you like having one [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► more person who loves you versus the [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► number that you had yesterday is a win [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► but with indication there's always [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► somebody you wish had to admit they were [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► wrong and apologize for what happened [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► before so you know it's it did that [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► again there's no there's no limit to [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► that as well but think about like with [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► with John I mean there's that period in [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► like nineteen sixty and pretty as much [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► as good as their records were they had a [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► rough patch for a couple years for a lot [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► of reasons i might accident realize how [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► big the jesus from marc was like what a [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► big deal that was and how taken out of [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► context it wasn't now it's all this but [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► that but that was a rough patch for them [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► and jon was unhappy card is fat Elvis [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► phase where he was depressed and felt [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► like he was a fact I nobody love him but [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► but you know even at the point where now [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► you got all the love that you could want [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► and then you just got to keep doing what [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► you're doing to keep being loved [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► but with the vindication like what if [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► there's a certain cutoff point where it [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► just turns to a certain kind of [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► bitterness because the amount of [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► indication that can make it worthwhile [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► especially if you're basically cynical [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► person like I think he was you could see [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► that in his [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► relationship to Dylan right because [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► Dylan like who could the beatles [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► possibly NVDA and be Dylan because Dylan [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► was vindicated more than loved [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► and there's that there and so as a [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► result of this like some artists wanna [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► be loved someone to be vindicated [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► there's also two kinds of fame and Dylan [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► had had the best cotton in my estimation [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► and I think in a lot of our estimations [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► the better kind of Fame which was the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► fit the vindication fame right all the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► critics loved him he set a new bar he [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► was the voice of a generation he was [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► meaning full and after a certain time [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► you no longer have to have an argument [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► about whether Bob Dylan was one of the [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► most important artists of the time [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► that's the indication is when you can [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► say well I don't like the Beatles but [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► i'm not going to dispute their sales [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► numbers and the critically acclaimed we [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► that's dedication right at a certain [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► point is that you [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► nobody there really dispute what you've [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► what you've managed to accomplish [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► yeah and so lemon lemon perceived [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► himself to be sort of in second place to [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► Dylan as the voice of the truth right [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► the hard-edged voice of the truth he [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► didn't see himself as I think probably [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► within the beatles he was he was more [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► and more resentful of Paul's effortless [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► songwriting but but the way that that [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► resentment took shape was that he [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► thought Paul was a was an intellectual [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► lightweight and he was comparing Paul [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► not to himself but to Dylan in terms of [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► like who [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► what what you know like remember what [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► days when they saw when they saw him and [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► when they saw Dylan royal albert hall [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► and you could hear a pin drop [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► and they were like thinking of their own [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► careers where they couldn't even hear [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► themselves play and the idea that an [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► audience would go and sit in reverently [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► like that was such a was such a contrast [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► and and to somebody who wants [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► vindication [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► who wants to be proved right [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► that must have been the hardest thing [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► for Lennon to to watch you know and and [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► strangely like I mean Dylan Dylan won [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► the the vindication lottery and what did [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► it do to that man you know it turned him [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► into really a troll that lives under a [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► bridge [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► yes it's a like like people I guess [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► kinda like lou reed or like it sometimes [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► John land became this contest of like [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► you think you you think you can love [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► that impossible thing well let me make [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► this next impossible thing it will be [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► impossible for you to love self-portrait [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► here you're welcome up [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► yeah mm I I feel like I wish there was a [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► third way i'm tired of wanting to be [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► vindicated [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► yeah is are you really well somebody [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► asked me the day like who are the people [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► that you want to [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► who are the people you want to be proved [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► right to and I you know I was thinking [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► about where i work with the generation [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► of it was that the Genesis and it was [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► all it's all back in school and the [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► coursework that you know the teachers [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► and the guidance counselor's that means [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► on the whiteout on your jean jacket yet [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► nobody got me and they punished me and [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► I'm like you know a lot of those people [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► are dead now [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► uh who am i I'm just I'm just trying to [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► prove i'm trying to be proved right to [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► some proxy of them some some big doctors [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► an avatar of a bully [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► yeah the teachers the school's the [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► government and the people ultimately you [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► know the conventional wisdom and what [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► yeah I can i it's an unreachable goal [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► i'll never be I will if that is my [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► standard of achievement [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► that that I I cannot rest or feel like [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► I've done a good job in life unless i [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► have rewritten history and they model [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► the schools on me [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► the to the chances and and then when if [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► that does happen when you don't get it [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► you might say the portraits unflattering [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► yeah i'll just be like no getting [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► worried i suppose but there's so much [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► more I could have done you know like [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► that I I don't feel like that is a [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► winning strategy for a short-term or [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► long-term happiness to want to show them [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► as it's a big the vindication hole is is [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► a big thing to fill in just the love [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► hole but you know I got a theory on this [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► i'm not a successful person but like if [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► I were I think what I would want in life [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► is this this is not what it sounds like [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► I'm not saying do what you love i'm not [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► saying quit your job nothing any of that [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► shit [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► what I'm saying is like to me a certain [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► measure of success has to involve two [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► things that your life becomes 3 your [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► life becomes last rather than more [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► complex and you like the way you spend [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► your day so to me like in that doesn't [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► mean you don't do things you don't like [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► it means if you're a filmmaker and you [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► think you have to love your job will get [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► ready [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► you got to deal with this key grip over [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► here and then this is what we got for [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► daylight left and this is what the [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► budget is for mustaches or whatever it [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► is but i would say you know the not just [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► once more people talk about do you like [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► what you do [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► well i think you know one marker is do [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► you like how you spend your day and if [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► you like spending your day making this [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► kind of music and then promoting it and [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► getting on Twitter or whatever or going [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► out and performing that music or dealing [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► with revisions to the liner notes and [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► all that kind of stuff to me that's a [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► certain kind of success that's much more [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► in returning then like how other people [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► reacted to it and if you can get the [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► vindication and the love out of doing [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► something like Jerry Lewis the [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► vindication love of what is that you're [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► making that's a good thing but like [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► there are a lot of people out there who [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► who are getting constantly more hugely [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► Reeve indicated all the time but this I [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► think they still kind of hate the way [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► they spend their day and they become [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► better people [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► I would like if there was just a tube [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► inserted into my stomach [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► that allowed me to sit and eat a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► continuous stream of single peanut [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► Eminem's and yet they would just then go [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► out I could I could eat them and crunch [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► yeah and taste them and feel them go [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► down right but then they would just keep [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► going out you need to guess like a [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► selective like ostomy back you need [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► something that can look for bioavailable [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► single item in pieces and know what to [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► sort out leave the water you know [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► Lucille and I guess the question that i [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► have is what use in a kind of super [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► train context if I was producing a very [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► small stream of masticated not chocolate [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► candy tastes like predigested but post [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► salivated post Jude like what is that [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► paste worth right depending on what you [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► see find for it's obviously probably be [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► a great lubricant right you got it baby [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► was a good spackle or like a bit cold [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► weather climates sure enough that be [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► brittle don't know what the [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► superformance qualities are but you [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► could also turn into something that you [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► give to children who don't know where [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► it's been [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► my kids are pretty cool about a lot of [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► different kinds of foods as long as they [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► don't know much about it [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► let's see let's say so it becomes a kind [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► of almond paste or like peanut butter [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► almost like it's almost nutella wait a [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► minute who is that what Nutella is a boy [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► sure looks like it has anybody ever seen [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► nutella being made now you can play any [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► kind of not on HR legally it doesn't [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► have anything to do with what's actually [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► in it I i think if you smash the [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► hazelnut it would not look like nutella [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► if you took hazel let you ate peanut [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► Eminem's and hazelnuts who and then and [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► chewed them and swallowed them and then [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► sucked them out through a tube how [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► different from nutella would that be [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► I think mostly understand the science [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► mostly indistinguishable you you would [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► be a bespoke confectionery treat [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► extruding it treat extruding unity just [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► chop it a little bit like 200 [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► Senate what's in a fucking tootsie roll [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► chocolate now is a caramel they're not [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► really something what the fuck is that [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► I didn't think about that either I you [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► know i'm i'm i'm just i'm guessing that [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► somewhere down the food chain like up at [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► the top there's me who likes to eat [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► peanut Eminem's somewhere somewhere down [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► the food chain for me is something is [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► not picky someone who likes to eat a [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► kind of spreadable saw that Eminem [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► flavored material and then they could [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► have a similar tube and somewhere down [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► the line from there's somebody who wants [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► a real smooth creamy you know condensed [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► yes baby isn't missing for the older [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► folks who can't you very well but still [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► like a little bit of effect not taste in [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► in there sluiced desert so nutella is an [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► italian food isn't Italian Italian I've [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► never understood the nutella cult [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► I've never knew I know it's a thing and [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► people to come to tell if you really [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► tried have you ever tried or whatever [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► now I haven't ever had it on [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► have you had no communion now I just [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► done not at all interested in Utila and [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► here's why I'm not interested in nutella [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► for very much the same reason you talk [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► about fucking validation you're going [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► you're going you're mom's refrigerator [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► back in the day and if you see something [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► say something something chocolate but [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► it's a baker's chocolate our hall behind [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► you go oh my fucking god how i lived in [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► this house for seven years and never [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► notice there's fucking chocolate in the [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► refrigerator and we'll sit down and it's [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► literally the most disgusting and bitter [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► thing you've ever had in your life and [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► it's a total abortion and you can't [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► believe they were legally allowed to put [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► chocolate even on the label right that's [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► kinda how I feel about nutella nutella [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► got the performance qualities of peanut [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► butter but it's made out of something [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► it's not chocolate nutella day bude in [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► 1964 it is a modern abomination it's [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► appeals age [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► yeah spreadable treat ya April 64 when [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► did when did the a wounded let me do hit [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► right about that same time at three two [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► or three months earlier from the Beatles [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► came to the US [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► yeah the beatles as not a coincidence i [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► don't think it's a coincidence also [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► Italy Hitler work with the [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► Italians in the axis soon i'm saying [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► italy the post-war Italy assets like 750 [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► government's I had a girlfriend in [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► college back in the days when you can [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► get you tell us so easy back in the [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► eighties I guess it wasn't as widespread [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► and she would squeeze when her parents [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► sent her a care package that had to tell [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► in it was like the happiest day of her [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► life [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► I got a care package today from a Polish [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► girl living in Germany that has like 14 [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► different kinds of lindt chocolate balls [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► it like it's that linked 14 different [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► kinds of lived Lynn Lind that's a [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► delicious John yeah and there was also a [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► lunchbox in it full of cookies and the [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► lunchbox like at in preston lunch box [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► that commemorates d-day [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► oh wow yeah yeah my my my polish doctor [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► friend living in Berlin let me add that [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► the actual German worry to simply lunch [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► body a lunchbox pulmonologist dr. Freda [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► polska polska oz idol doctor for joining [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► a girl friend friend friend is just [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► friend who may be friends girlfriend I [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► sit I really so to say for the shakes [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► yeah she's a doctor professor and and [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► may I have this beautiful box of yours [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► John that's a lot of separate pieces to [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► put together to make one care package [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► that's a very sweet gesture it did and [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► you know the the thing that I have a [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► problem that i often have is that I wish [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► that I utilize the male's more to send [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► beautiful things to people i have i have [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► things lying around that i could send to [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► people who would appreciate them i have [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► scale for an operation like that that's [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► the thing and I don't I don't I don't [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► want to use the male's a partly because [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► for instance i still have not solved my [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► tooth problem [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► which is now seven years in the often [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► they still temp technically temporary [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► and still have a temporary tooth that's [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► just that's just glued in there with [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► like safety pins like you never got your [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► plastic library card still using a [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► little flimsy guy next to you just break [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► sometimes [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► oh yeah any day it could break you could [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► break right now a pigeon fly in the [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► window hit me in the face brush my teeth [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► and and so there are all these like [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► things i want to do in life i want to [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► change the schools i want to ride on a [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► tank into Paris I want to get my tooth [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► fixed and I want to use the male's to [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► send nice things to people don't have a [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► whiteboard you're reading off and I [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► cannot [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► cannot [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► I cannot manage even the smallest detail [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► and now i have gone i had i had an [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► assistant then she passed the baton to a [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► second assistant now the second [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► assistant is very clearly a that needing [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► to pass the baton to a further assistant [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► a third assistant it has only been six [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► months since I even began this assistant [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► business and I've already had three of [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► them [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► that's a little much and I told think [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► it's my fault [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► oh I don't I don't I have a pretty good [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► sense of what it's my fault [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► have you made them agree with that I you [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► know I that everybody has their own [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► narrative I can't impose my narrative on [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► other people but I think Sheree job I've [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► been watching haha i'm watching very [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► closely and i've been i've been checking [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► my privilege on an hourly basis and i am [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► pretty confident that i have not been [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► the reason but then again who knows they [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► might not say except on a message board [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► yeah the second assistant the reason [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► that I need now a third assistant is [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► that I got the second assistant or you [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► know did get but like made a nice [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► recommendation to someone who gave the [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► second assistant a proper job which now [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► is occupying like 80 hours a week is [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► John this and they keep propagating new [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► assistants sounds like sounds like fruit [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► flies [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► that's the thing i think that insisted i [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► think it's a thing where you have to go [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► through three or four people who are [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► like I want to be your assistant before [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► you find the person who says I am New [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► York systems you know what I mean [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► uh-huh you feel me I do I told you a [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► long time ago I knew a guy that's in [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► this is a great strategy but i knew a [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► guy who hired several people agreeing [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► that he would basically pay them for a [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► certain amount a month or whatever and [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► they just wind him down like that and [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► style it got down to the last one and [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► said everybody else in learning time and [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► say okay you're out of this elimination [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► have three left to left [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► with a pool cue when it means right I [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► was thinking I would just break a pool [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► cue and throw it on the floor and say I [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► can only hire one of you is the city its [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► I don't have my now I don't have my bell [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► I got you covered welcome back Lou [TS]