Ep. 136: "Goofus MacGroofus"
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hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going
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good what a day
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k so k saudia case i have you ever eaten
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cheese no hide have not had any food
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today uh I'm subsisting entirely on pure
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oh god I'm a mess are you did you have
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some food you go down to the taco bell
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and get a couple hot dogs
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Oh will be tied me on the day they start
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having hot dogs at the bell who can you
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imagine if they added just one more
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ingredient hot dogs up i know one of our
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dogs you know what if they want this
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idea is going to cost from seven hundred
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thousand dollars but here's my thought
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interesting dogs hot dogs first of all
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you want you can sell hotdogs hotdogs as
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a thing everybody likes those you can
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chop them into discs discs like the size
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of the tip of your thumb and you can
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begin to a famous bowl taco and Frank's
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talking all and Frank so here's the
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thing you could cut a hot dog in half
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lengthwise and make it a hot dog go dog
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oh well you had taco it's just always
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you it's a thing right you fill it with
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taco stuffings but instead of the taco
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you would have a hot dog hot dogs
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hi dude hot dogs we go through phases at
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our house where we forget about hot dogs
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for six months and then we get we get a
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couple packs of like some Nathan's and
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we go crazy on hot dogs for a while
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yeah i've started eating the Nathans
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that you know they make jumbo Nathan's
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have you seen yeah it's like it's like
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five in a pack
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yeah I don't very confusing but i do
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that i've been i've been pretty happy
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with those i have ever told you about my
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about chili
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um i'm going to say no never told you my
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story of chili thus oh god no i don't
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know the story of chili
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well guys a Marvel origin here yeah it
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is it really is and i don't mean the
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story of chilly when i was a kid i did
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not like chill
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I didn't like chili because it had beans
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in it and I didn't like beings i didn't
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like beans because i didn't like
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vegetables and beans adventure secret
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vegetable yeah and so at a when i was
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when i was a kid i was extremely picky
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eater I didn't eat
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I hardly ate anything and one of the
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things i didn't eat was chilly and uh I
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was revolted by chili
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well at Mount Alyeska where I was a
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member of the junior racers ski team on
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the top of the mountain was the original
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structure that was the top of chair 1
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the chair the first chair lift the first
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chair lift went up and went kind of in
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underneath this building actually the
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you would get off the chair the chair
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would go it would rotate around its hub
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underneath the building which was called
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the Roundhouse guess why because of the
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roundness of the structure and making
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the chair pivot that's right it was a it
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wasn't actually a roundhouse it was like
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an octagon old building but it was
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effectively round and it is the check
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comes around then that takes people down
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that's right the Roundhouse at Mount
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Alyeska and the Roundhouse was a on the
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top floor it was it was the place on the
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top of the mountain where you would go
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and get a hot chocolate it was the bar
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you could get you could get some hot
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drinks and some time before I was a kid
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sometime in the late sixties they added
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in addition to the back of the
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Roundhouse which was kind of a big
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dining long area and it was it was all
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shingled in cedar shingles including the
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roof and the the furniture inside was in
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the like heavy wood picnic table style
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of furniture over i think in the bar
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they had tables and chairs but back in
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the in the Roundhouse where the kids
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could go
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it was just big picnic tables anyway at
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the Roundhouse one of the foods that
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they offered was
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really and they made chili burgers and
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they made chili dogs and also chili and
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so I would go in there every day at in
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the middle of the day at lunchtime with
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my friends we would you know ski up kick
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our skis off is it is a pretty handsome
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looking building it's very nice kind of
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old world
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yep we would clump into the Roundhouse
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you have to climb up some stairs and
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then you go in there was a there was a
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poor should a deck on the outside but
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you clump into the Roundhouse and you
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could get a hamburger cheeseburger a
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hotdog and then all of those things with
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chili on them and then fries which I
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also didn't need to because i didn't
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like potatoes because potatoes were a
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vegetable
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so my whole childhood security it's
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conceptually that their vegetables it's
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just the whole idea that their
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vegetables that's right that's right i
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was a time and that was plenty for you
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just not even touch up well and also
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because potatoes and beans share a
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commonality which is that they have a
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mealy texture that's true and I don't
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like melee didn't like me lee and i
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associated it with a certain kind of
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starchy vegetable of which beans and
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potatoes to me where the exemplars so I
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would sit at the Brown House day after
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day eating my cheeseburger or my hot dog
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while my friends across the table 8
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their chili cheeseburger or their chili
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dog and the Roundhouse serve these foods
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on big platters and it was a pile of
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chili you couldn't see the cheeseburger
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under the chili you couldn't see the hot
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dog under the chili
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it was a mountain of food and i SAT
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across from this day after day
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throughout my entire childhood and then
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at a certain point in my adult life I
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realized that I had been a fool and in
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addition to all the other new foods that
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I was trying and learning to like I
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tried chili for the first time and I
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realized that chili is the perfect food
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it has all the ingredients as beings and
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as chili powder so what happened did you
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just did you try and actually just
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picking the beans out
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well no it was too late I was not a kid
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anymore
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oh I was not living in Alaska anymore i
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could not go back in time I could not go
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back and have all those chili burgers
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and I had failed to have there was no
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going home again I'd blown it and when I
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finally did go back to the Roundhouse as
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an adult and order a chili burger it had
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changed there wasn't the same the two
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wasn't enough chili that the new recipe
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the resort had been purchased by a
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Japanese conglomerate well and they
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built a new hotel potential caller they
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built a new round house
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no not getting smaller things they tore
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it down and they built a i mean i think
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the Roundhouse itself maybe still since
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thats that's sickening John but the
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dining room is this giant poured
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concrete area with the lots of a lots of
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coke products and branding and all kinds
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of foods and the it was gone the smell
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of cedar the the cigarette smoke the
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chili burgers and so because because of
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that I've spent the rest of my life
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trying to eat every chili burger I can
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to try and make up to fill that chili
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burger sized hole in my heart that's
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miserable right
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I hate what stuff changes well and I in
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and the thing is i wish that i had
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changed and the chili burger had stayed
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the same
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this is like a harry chapin song the cat
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is in the chili burger and the silver
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spoon it couldn't see the chili for the
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that's right that is exactly what it was
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my boys just like me and and so
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talk about memory well what now the nice
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part for me growing up in cincinnati
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with our weird-ass chili is in a minute
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yeah I told the story hundred times but
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the nice thing about going to get
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cincinnati chili I was you I you know
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did you know about the different ways
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it's not sure you got it takes away the
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five-way in the two-way an American
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responders i think a three-way is
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spaghetti of course because you put
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chili and spaghetti right spaghetti
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chili onions and cheese no cheese
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I think of solar way forward with onions
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and then of course five ways when you're
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really getting grown-up that's when you
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get the beans the beans on top of the
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chili because the Cincinnati chili
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doesn't have been you can get it did
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they did they yeah it's it's all in
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there and I think it comes on a plate
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skyline chili or you can go to impress
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if that's how you roll but a I think the
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whole thing was like a dollar
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thirty-five yeah my uh I personally
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would really like Cincinnati style chili
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I do too I do too you know it's
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interesting all the different to our
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regional variations you get the chili
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you got BBQ you know everybody's got
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their own little uh and premature
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haven't you missed out on that was so so
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anyway i buy i buy these hot dogs these
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Nathan's Famous hot dogs get his giant
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ones because when i make chili I kind of
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can't conceive of it or rather it is it
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is it is a exponentially improved if I
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pored over a hot dog or over amber
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because i'm trying to get back to the to
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the roundhouse in Girdwood this is your
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this is your your Madeline in the tea
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that's right this is my rosebud hmm is
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that just the chili dog burger in the
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Roundhouse and so I'm always trying to
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I'm always trying to make it and I and
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so I eat hot dogs but I eat them I eat
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them entirely as a it's basically what
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you're saying it's a taco dog except
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with chili and and I do the thing that I
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like which is I cover the whole plate
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with chili and you can't see the food
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underneath it all I bury it
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it is like a political prisoner yes
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didn't see whatever uncover with chili
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told you know now in the modern era in
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the contemporary with the wolf chili
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obviously whatever we got in the fridge
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what do we got thrown yeah you got rice
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you got you got you know you got
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whatever i'm just saying I'm two minutes
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away from pleasure pleasure committee
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well let me give you a little life hack
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I'm ready throw in half a bag of frozen
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chopped kale
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oh that's good fries and kale is better
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than it sounds
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right so you take a take a one-pound bag
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of frozen kale you throw a half a pound
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of frozen kale into your chili it
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basically just it taste it thickens it
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it darkens the taste a little bit and
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you know using the the inescapable logic
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you are also now eating super healthy
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life hack into this life hack you know
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you just made a quarter of a pound of
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kale em and you don't even notice that
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because you were you were busy trying to
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smother this chili dog and we were water
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boarding water boarding this hot dog
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with chili can get a lottery then the
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next morning
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oh my goodness nothing about chilly
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though is it you know what what probably
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people to care but this is something
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that needs to be said I think people in
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Australia and England and Germany are
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you have that they have their pens out
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and they are writing every word we say
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about chilly down well here's here's a
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couple nice things about chili is it
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chilly as a pivot so on the one hand you
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can put chili on almost anything and it
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will improve you could put on a banana
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I don't care it'll be better than the
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other nice thing is you can add stuff to
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your chili I know this seems obvious
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Americans but you know you've got a
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little bit of leftover ribeye cut it up
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right in the chili oh my god you get
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that flavor country the other day i was
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making chili and in my cupboard i have
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had several cans of Heinz beans classic
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English beans classic English means that
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they eat with their breakfasts their
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income their their English breakfast
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they're uniformly gray colored English
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breakfasts they always have some beans
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some hot beans and ketchup is basically
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what it is sliced tomato
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and I get a great slice of tomato some
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some blood sausage if you're being fancy
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and you got some nice mask that's a
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bacon you got the other kind of sausage
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to go with the blood sausage and then
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you know some some of them don't have
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the beans but i think the beans are
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pretty canonical and so somebody gave me
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some canned Heinz beans because they're
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like oh you're a man of the world
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I'm like really this is what this is how
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you express man of the world the main
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lines beans they're like they're
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imported beans from England and I had
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him in my cupboard and I was like ah I
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kind of sometimes do crave a classic
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English breakfast
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oh my god me too I get that I get the
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full irish I just go and say two words
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full irish full irish word you get a
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full irish breakfast in Tahlequah to
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place my daughter and I referred to
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simply as Irish Breakfast doesn't my
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place is called we call an Irish
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Breakfast yyyy not visited ho ho you go
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in there do you know they used to have
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the mixed grill they discontinued the
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mixed girl the mix car better
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that was when our top no but the the I
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think I you know there's a part of me
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that wonders of beans are almost like
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the british version of macaroni and
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cheese because it's cheap comfort food
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shop for it i believe it's true and and
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it's also a vegetable em anyway so i'm
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making chili and I was like what happens
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if you put Heinz beans in chili because
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I'd already put a couple of cans of
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beans and some other beings a monster
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various means you're like I don't think
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it's time I was like you know what I'm
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putting kalin this chilli I'm gonna
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fucking put some Heinz beans in there
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and I dumped a can of Heinz beans and
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they you know they're white beans are
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there a different kind of being that are
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whiter whiter kind of being that which
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is my favorite Procol Harum song wasn't
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minutes and and then all of a sudden the
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chili is just like just lifts off into
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this other realm of like it became a
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kind of chilly that I wanted to put a
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bowl of this chilly in front of someone
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just to register their surprise and
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delight like you're likely but it's not
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the chili you think it is
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that's right they would look at maybe
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like there's what's going on in this
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chilly there there there 40 different
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realities you don't mind John I find
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that people really enjoy it when you put
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a plate of food in front
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when you're smiling and you could try
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this hey you think you've had food
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try this welcome to Chile hacker working
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welcome to do welcome to Chile town i
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have had my star my favorite Dan Harmon
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oh yeah there's my girl
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haha you're 50 a piece of paper stuck in
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I i just want to say you know every man
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has a little bit of pan man in him
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mm right because you can't have a pan
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man without being a man there maybe pan
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ladies but i think is canonically a pan
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man i'm following you so far I've know
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some people don't want you people ask us
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about this and I don't know I feel say
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go we're gonna like I can go to someone
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episode and go like let me explain what
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a pan man is I don't know we've ever
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exactly describe all you need to know
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it's sammy hagar it's guy feel dat unity
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you gotta say it like that you know what
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you're looking pan mane thing to do
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community
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it doesn't really CPX dat but you gotta
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okay so here's the here's here's the
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part of having a being a pan man i think
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i'm gonna get you to jump in
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well be in the the classic pan man
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thinks you should probably have a very
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silly goatee
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this may be a little long yes that you
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can't help write like a goatee that you
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just almost can't help
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no no yeah it's not like you're a guy
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with a full beard and you shave it into
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a goatee its like your face just makes
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go to use yeah you've got you've got a
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genetic cote beard yeah and then you
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should have some kind of stupid hair
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maybe frosted could be could be ginger
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ringlets could be ginger Inglis it could
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be it could be highlights right spiky
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highlight some kind of fucked-up hair
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okay and then from there it spreads out
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a little bit it could involve Hawaiian
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shirt shirts it could involve jam shorts
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you probably wear flip-flops sure and i
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think one of the canonical things
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wouldn't you say is you can't get it hot
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enough for them haha i think you can't
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get it hot enough for them and so you
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think you actually have a canonical test
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you have a Turing test pan mentoring
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test which is do you want jalapenos with
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that to which he always sits pacman
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always gonna say yeah
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yeah fuck yeah I want jalapenos with
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that i think i think a pan man it says
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woo an awful lot
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30 our dog maybe I think he calls you
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dawg I think he calls you bro i think
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you is gonna he's gonna you know in a
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way this is what's weird in a way maybe
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George Bush is a little bit more about
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George W Bush he's a closet pan man he's
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a little bit closer to pan man because
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of his his habit of nicknaming everybody
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everything kind of like hey what's up an
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see why because I'm wearing pants yah
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pants see what's the matter you don't
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like being called fancy also also also
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um not just sunglasses they should
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preferably be wraparound mirrored
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sunglasses on one of those douchey
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froggy things you should have or you
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wear them on the back of your neck now
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we're getting into the ugh for a little
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anytime you wear your head or your
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sunglasses on the back of the neck you
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are you're very very close to pan mane
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and i would say there are no ectomorph
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expand men
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Oh like I could nip at the waist you
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usually a little bit pen men are
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typically endo more i'm just gonna throw
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that out there as a kind of like at the
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end there may be some mesomorphic pan
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but i think most of them are endomorphs
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you could not pan man with a Macklemore
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haircut but that's a very that's a very
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modern offshoot that would be I you know
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they're Macklemore haircuts they are
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proliferating they are they are like oh
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my god Merlin they're like they're like
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dandelion seeds just since we talked
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about it i've seen so many more now I
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see it everywhere but i don't think that
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that is that's not a typical that's not
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that's not all the way payment i think
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pan man has has a lot of body hair who
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and I and I think I think what it is
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ultimately is that they feel connected
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to the spirit of having fun living in
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the now being here now and this is
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what's so confusing about Matthew
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McConaughey em because Matthew
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McConaughey is a by all appearance
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this is a fairly normal human but he's
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had a some kind of pan mane personality
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transplant
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uh-huh he's a pan man living inside the
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body of a normal man
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mm and that's why I that's why I i have
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such a hard time grappling with Matthew
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McConaughey yeah he doesn't he doesn't
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really fit the dominant paradigm know
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and yet as soon as he opens his mouth
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you're like pac-man yes alright alright
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alright so so it's about michael anthony
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of uh Van Halen ultimate ultimate sort
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of panic if you have a musical
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instrument shaped like a liquor bottle
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you're probably a pan man if you look at
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van Halen you look at some standing
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against the wall in 1977 and you look at
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michael anthony and you think like ah
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god I'm sorry it's like I used to work
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at the hardware store
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yeah like it's gotta be tough to be
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michael anthony and yet in no photograph
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of michael anthony at any time do you
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ever register the sense that it is tough
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and smilin he's having the best time
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he's enjoying being in fucking van Halen
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you really really is and not for us
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understand from a brick wall looking sad
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nope not for a second does he think to
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himself I'm the only guy on stage right
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now that's wearing a shirt right yeah
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yeah yeah those times when you like
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something else something on the chess
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King oh but Michael he's gotta wear a
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shirt all because everybody else has got
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their shirt off and Michael Anthony is a
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little bit of an end more than he's got
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he's got to keep his shirt on but he
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doesn't give a fuck now having a great
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time and that is characteristic ban give
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no fucks a guy he's not giving seems
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like here's my concern and John this is
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a secret shame but I feel like it's
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something i need to bring you something
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I've been noticing about myself and I
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want to get your thoughts on what it
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might mean I have been adding hot sauce
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to foods lately
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yeah let's
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general but I mean it's not worrisome a
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little bit and specifically let me just
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I've been adding sriracha two things
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right as well no sriracha is the new
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bacon of the internet but but sriracha
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or a little bit of tapatio but like I've
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started saucing things are you doing
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worrisome you're afraid in the same way
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that like if somebody doesn't a like
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slap your balls with the with a leather
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luggage tag you can't come
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isn't the German shoot me like there's
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not there it's called us talk about
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swapping there's any given day or
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luggage tag there's a fear there's a
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fear that if you slap your balls once
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with a leather luggage tag never go back
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you're gonna be like fuck now i can't
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really get down now i'm going to i'm
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curious i'm tagged curious so it's just
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we might get chilly i added to Chile
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sometimes added to other things I still
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like you know a lot of soy sauce to
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something but I do find myself and ok
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into the worst so I've heard some people
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say I maybe Churchill who said this was
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somebody said you know you can judge a
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person he will judge a person by whether
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they sought their food before they've
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tasted it
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sign of poor character sure course and I
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do find myself sometimes putting on
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garage before i even tasted it
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well you are this worrisome should I
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worry the thing is that you
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I in me you have a you have found a man
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of solidarity because I wench sriracha
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is available i just grabbed it and a
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matter of course I just give it one huge
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squeeze squared the wrister into
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whatever I'm doing
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yeah and that came about I think as a
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result of being trained in the art of
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eating fun
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follow follow I was it was explained to
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me once by a Vietnamese lady that you
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should always when you say the word fun
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i don't i don't mean this to be like fee
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dat but when you say the word fuck you
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should always say it like a question you
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should always turn it up at the end
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hi oh so when now I do that everybody's
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like what I'm flow but when when when
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when I first was instructed in fuck this
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lady have told me this story i'm sure
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right where i went into a restaurant and
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the the woman came out it was right at
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the time when tha was being introduced
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to American audiences soon my favorite
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kind of came out of nowhere in the late
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nineties yeah yeah well and in Seattle
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it was the early nineties there were a
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lot of Vietnamese here and i'm sure they
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initially opened restaurants where they
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served chinese food or whatever because
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it was all that all that their their
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audience could understand ya little goo
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gai pan
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yeah they do you know like a like
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chicken cashew nuts and then they
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started introducing and I remember this
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happening at a little restaurant that I
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used to eat at all the time the the
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you'd see a new item on the menu and
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you'd be like her with I wonder what the
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heck that is
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you know what is a board was a bond me
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whatever it may be like how would you
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like to try our sandwich and you're like
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I guess I'll try sandwich and then out
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comes this thing you're like this is the
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most amazing thing in the world this
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isn't it absolutely should not work and
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they're like well we're not actually
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chinese or vietnamese and likely mission
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impossible if they pull away latex false
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face and exactly the same wondering if
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you'd like
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oh IC and so one day I walked in and
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there was a little sign on the table and
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it said try our beef soup
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oh yeah and it was a rainy day cold
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rainy day and though uh and this was a
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restaurant where normally the waitresses
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were there ten-year-old daughter and
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their 12-year old daughter and I had a
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very good relationship with both of the
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girls but on this day it it wasn't the
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mother that came over
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to take my order it was her mother the
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grandmother that I'd only ever seen in
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the back like making the food and she
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came out and I was like I'm curious
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about this beef soup and she said done
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and off she goes into the kitchen kind
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of excited and I was kind of excited and
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then she came out with the soup and she
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said you've never had this before and I
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said no and she sat down at the table
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with me and I have this madness
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recollection that she actually sat in my
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chair like she scooted my butt over and
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sat on the edge of my chair the nice
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memory and I'm like Hello and she
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proceeded to prepare my father my father
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for me and she went through this whole
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like and then you do this and then you
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put in the plum sauce and then you hit
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it with the hot sauce and then the
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jalapenos and then pepper and then fish
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oil and then you know she's just like
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blah blah and I was that i was watching
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the whole thing and just like a little
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horrified because I would not have put
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any plum sauce and myself nor certainly
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no fish oil
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I wouldn't have squeeze the lime and I
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would have done any of these things I
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would have just eaten the soup and left
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all that roughage on the plate but she
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did it for me all the basil and stuff
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and then she's like she did that thing
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that that woman in Austria did to me
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where she stood up a gesture at the soup
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and then indicated that she was gonna
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stand there and watch me eat it and I
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ate it and so from that moment on
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whenever I sit down at any meal and
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there are comments on the table and
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other things I just sort of go
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why thank you know fish oil and I just
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make everything like fun i'm very
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attracted to foods that you get to
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fiddle with it might be a form of eating
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disorder but even like what I have pizza
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like I have lots of you know different
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kinds and measures of things I'd like to
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put on there and it's
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certain way i think it's fun when I get
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like takeout from the thai restaurant
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and it comes with this additional like
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to get the little paper thing full of
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all the stuff to put in
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that's fun to me I like yeah like don't
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know and soup now let me to ask you this
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if you have a plate of food with like
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six different things on it
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do you want those things to touch each
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other or do you want those things to not
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touch each other I don't have a strong
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feeling I had never been concerned about
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the food touching and I always honestly
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again just disclosed I've always thought
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it was kind of weird how many kids would
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freak out about it but I'm guessing
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you're a non-food touches a child I
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wearing uniformly white non vegetable
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food you were probably pretty picky
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about your plate too well what I'd what
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I do is I eat in order
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do you like it do you are you are you
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eat one thing at a time where you like
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it all to finish it once well so if a
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plane arrives and there are five
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different discrete foods and five rivers
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discreet piles I go around and I eat
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some from me pile in sort of clockwise
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until it's all gone
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oh yeah i'm moving a pattern I i do
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kinda like them all to finish at the
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same time but I'm also a goulash lover
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and if there's any way that I can like
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get a bim bap thing going on
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we're at all you will you and I've had
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some bim bap
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how is that the place with the shaving
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noodles now know that but the husband
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map is the is the Korean dish in the
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super hot stone Bowl are looking at it
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now I love that be waiting in that place
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you want to get to make our own food
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very about that stuff a little bowls
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oh love so is if I can stir my shit up
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in into just like a like a just a mush
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I'm really into that too and that's the
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thing my dad would not tolerate if my
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dad couldn't tell each item of food in
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his food he didn't want anything in a
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date and won it all covered in sauce he
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did not want he wanted to see you wanted
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to meet and vegetables to be separate he
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wanted to see it all and know it
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he and I are different people yes the
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bitmap the tonight in that did i tell
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you i started i found a bunch of
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cassette tapes of my dad is thinking
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about this series recordings of your dad
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was it was it so he was an
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administrative law judge and like
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negotiations or something
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well late labor disputes he was an
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arbitrator and but but rather than being
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an arbitrator where he's trying to reach
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a compromise as an administrative law
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judge it when it would when when
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disputes between management and labor or
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between a professional person and the
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and the licensing agency or whatever
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when those disputes would reach the
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point where there was no resolution sure
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they would appear in front of my dad and
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he would actually make a binding
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decision like arbitration arbitration
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but but he was the he he he was yeah he
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he he was a hearing officer he would
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hear cases presented by the lawyers on
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both sides and then he would arbitrate
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and so they're cassettes and cassettes
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and cassettes and cassettes of these
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cases from the nineteen eighties and I
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found them all in a bag and I was like
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to well I'm I'm cleaning the house
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what the hell and I start popping in the
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the stereo and it's like the most boring
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episode of Law & Order ever like uh
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would you say that when you first read
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the contract it stipulated that
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management would pay for the time that
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it took employees to go to the DMV and
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get a copy of their drivers record
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yes i would say that do you have any
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notes to that effect
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well as a matter of fact I do have the
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notes and it's just like are we
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seriously everybody whoever uses a
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sentence involving suing someone should
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have to listen to all of those it's
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insane it's insane because the whole
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process it's on and it's unreal
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I mean with the difference to the
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company was a difference of five hundred
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dollars let's say and yet there's this
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protracted dispute with the union that
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goes on for months they have 50 people
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testify and my dad is sitting there and
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I'm listening to this cassette and it's
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like being at work with my dad and I
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never knew I I was not interested in
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this phase of his career right when he
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got to when he was an administrative law
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judge it was after he left the railroad
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and I was just like oh so what do you do
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he's like wow sometimes like a doctor or
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get accused of malpractice and there's
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this there's a suit that's happening
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where he's being sued but then there's
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also the case of the state deciding
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whether or not to revoke his license and
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that portion of it appears before me and
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I hear his lawyer and the state's lawyer
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and they argue whether or not he should
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be allowed to practice medicine and then
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I make a determination and it in a way
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it's like wow that's pretty gnarly but
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also oh so boring dad fucking 23 years
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old and when I do some molly and go
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party did come we didn't call Molly then
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yeah but um so I'm listening to these
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tapes and Merlin I swear to you I can't
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stop listening to them like playing in
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the background
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I'm not really thinking when you listen
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to music you like really sit down and
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and headphones on
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I mean no I'm come not headphones but I
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mean I'm folding laundry or whatever but
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I listened to the listen of the guy
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present his case and I'm like well this
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guy's got an airtight case and then the
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next guy presents his opposing
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case and I'm like huh well as a matter
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of fact I kind of agree with his case
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I'm like oh this is kind of a hard job
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and then my dad will say something feat
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my dad will he sits up there on the
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bench and everyone's always like well
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counselor I think you might have made
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your point and everybody in the room
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laughs because he's making some lawyer
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joke and all the layers like haha yes
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sir you are right you know and i'm like
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wow it's like it's like it's like
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they're having fun in there being
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lawyers with each other and they know
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what they're talking about
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yeah yeah and and they're like they're
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boring as shit but they're like they're
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trying to have some fun while they can
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and they're proposing all these
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witnesses and you can tell there are
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people that are nervous they don't want
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to say the wrong thing you know that the
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whole the the union is watching and all
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this stuff these shop stewards that have
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never don't know how to use a microphone
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it's a it's amazing there really that
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thing is my dad doesn't appear that
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often because he's mostly listening but
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I kind of want to play the tapes for my
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daughter just like well you never knew
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your grandfather but here's a glimpse he
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was more interesting in person when he's
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your match about your eggs
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yeah this is more of a lawyer joke yeah
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we'll get a 1 by explain this to you huh
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you should hang on to this yeah it's one
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of the time you're you again it seems
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like you may be in phase we think about
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what you can let go but that's a nice
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thing to have
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yeah I mean it's maybe not think he
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would have 80 years old i'll be
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listening to these Alaska labor disputes
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from the eighties trying to reconnect
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with my dad haha pretty funny fucking
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life so you don't think I should be
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worried about becoming a man though i
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mean i really i really do like the first
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program
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here's the thing i'm not like standing
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Hampton I mean you know listen if I if I
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know selling it for the same here record
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Stanley handsome you don't hit it
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standard Hampton isn't what it's called
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Jesus I don't know what time i hit
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gershon Aaron some intrigue HSAs lies no
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more lies no I was talking about the one
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that's got us going on it's got there's
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only one way to rock on it
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oh that's a good tune does it have three
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lockbox you know that's on three lockbox
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possible with you love is driving me
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where's my banjo over a one way to rock
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beat didn't need to be doing do um I
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honestly if I was a if I was sitting on
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a bart train on the bart train want to
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go on the bart train and you were
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sitting across from me I and i don't
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mean this in the wrong way but i might
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say myself i might say to myself hmm is
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that a pan man really just because there
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are certain characteristics that you
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have that sheet that arch that are
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shared with pan men m thru you took your
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genes into your socks
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there's the thing about your face is
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kind of go t-shaped I i do have a sum of
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the t-shaped face
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there's a goatee shape to your face and
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over the years some of your hairstyles
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were barely Panish shit you're right but
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I do not find you know the fact is that
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maybe your pan personality got switched
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with Matthew McConaughey's actual
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personality somewhere you should look at
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your guys's birthday yes and see if
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maybe it wasn't a personality transplant
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that happened somehow with the storks em
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that your personality belongs in Matthew
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McConaughey and his personality believes
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in you because you have a not not i
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don't think a pan mane personality now
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I don't think so I don't think you do
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what if he's riddled with self-doubt I
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don't think you that he is either you
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look at what I ok so there you go though
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isn't it good that that's a pan quality
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not riddled with self-doubt precisely
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not on the surface anyway right
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like a guy like Matthew McConaughey
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living in texas right she should be a he
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should be should have been born probably
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with your like hyper well let's see this
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argument is kind of not holding water
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with Matthew McConaughey having your
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personality
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yeah but maybe you should have had his
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personality and then there's somebody
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else is a third element a third person
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that should have had your personality
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right right
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something remarkable thing and then you
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would have had their personality maybe
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that's what it is to me are 67 doesn't
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look a day over 60 for the pictures have
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been on Google's give it a thumbs up
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he's unreal laughs out of shield
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shit-eating grin that's wonderful
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bookshelves in Michelle's kind of a man
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thing right listen don't talk shit about
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puka shells in the seventies i wore puka
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shells and then in the nineties my
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sister in a gesture of like early
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nostalgia which is uncharacteristic for
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her she bought me some puka shells and
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said remember when we used to wear these
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she's a thoughtful back in the back in
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1976 when leif Garrett was on the cover
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of teen beat magazine all he was
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frequently put a shelled he did he was
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then he's kind of a little bit of your
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pan actually when you think about it and
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bend and and so I was like are Susan how
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cute and so I wore a puka shells and I
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wore them throughout the nineties when
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they were not acceptable refer and my
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puka shells broke at one point and I
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rethreaded them on mint flavor dental
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floss look so when if you happen to be
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somebody let's say for instance who was
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kissing me on the neck which happens
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sometimes back in the day you would get
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a little minty because of all the Molly
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little mini like Bing you like
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the wise your next committee is always
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offering surprises to the people who are
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intimate in your life that's right a
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life back that like that my necklace is
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made out of dental floss but anyway so I
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got a lot of uh I got a lot of shit for
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the puka shells and the more should I
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got the more I DoubleDown on the puka
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shells and if you look at some early
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long winters promo shots and footage i
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am still wearing those boots and potions
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even into the 2,000 feel like I don't
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know why but I feel like maybe in that
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Western State hurricanes thing when you
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guys are on like local TV I thinking why
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do I think you might be wearing puka
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shells I it is entirely possible that i
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was wearing puka shells because i never
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took them off and I had them on pretty
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much from 1995 to 2003 until finally the
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dental floss like gave way and then and
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then I was like am I really going to
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rebuild these bookshelves i'm a 35 year
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old man and so I put them in the
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keepsake drawer along with the little
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black crystal wrapped in the silver like
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the idea that you have the keepsake
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well for little keepsakes
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uh-huh did it did a girl ever give you a
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crystal know now i don't think i ever
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got a crystal i never got that far
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I had a lady friend who is very
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crystally yeah I'm pretty confused by
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crystals also well I mean they're
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they're splitting energy thing with
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chakras are a chocolate
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yep and she wanted if you want to sleep
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under a pyramid of copper pipes
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ok I could do that and then you have
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your crystals aligned with your chakras
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before and the energy streams that are
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invisible to you until you until you do
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these other things and you see the
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streams seems like a lot of work
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unit couldn't this reason I'm tired of
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time I feel like I feel like the pan
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mane equivalent in the lady land what
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they're good they would they would give
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you a crystal and I got a crystal from
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one of the pan ladies did represent
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anything here represent was a black
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crystal wrapped in silver
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it's about as long as a cigarette but
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only got plenty Crystal point crystal on
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a necklace and I was meant to wear it
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because it was the right kind of crystal
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for my energy ha i see it's a palliative
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I was at somebody's house not too long
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ago and I noticed that they had crystals
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on several of their window sills is that
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crystal think oh I think those are
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crystals that are supposed to send
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rainbows into the room
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oh yeah I got one of those for Christmas
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recently
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yeah i got 1,000,000 sent me this thing
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we use suction cup it and it's got solar
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panel and solar panel makes the crystal
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turn around and shoot rainbows in your
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room this mode this most recent
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Christmas that's just passed a couple
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weeks ago few weeks ago the one for a
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few weeks ago by having you here I've
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got to say happy new year
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thank you glad to be here John you have
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any new year's resolution since it's
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almost new year now
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definitely not December 15-18 thoughts
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on the new year 2015 you really wanna
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know i think i've got trouble that seems
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to be your new sound
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yeah that is kind of everything exactly
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right on the edge of giving up but not
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quite giving i do you really want to
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know what my new year's resolutions are
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yeah I don't wanna I don't want to beat
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well i think you know the kind of
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resolutions I wouldn't wanna hear about
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haha you know it's how long are we into
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this episode is it time for me to start
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talking about all I know it almost
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fucking january and having my back but I
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know John John John what ru resolving to
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do in the in the in the toaht 15 so
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doing music bed here
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yeah I look at me like you do have a
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little like Rhodes piano and we have two
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soft Rhodes piano you do that or I was
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made for loving you by kiss just play
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very quietly I don't think that's what I
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would you were made to not be and
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conversely pan men every one of them
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oh my god Alvin Ailey fucking pan man
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they almost to know how many of you like
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to drink cold gin it's a really straight
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for requests 100 but hey you're gonna
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get dark know maybe you have too cute
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I'm 67 you 67 years old to know and you
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and he still gets onstage and takes his
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fucking shirt off
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yes he is a badass I think he's vegan
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and just doesn't say so who knows man
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that whatever he is i hated for 40 years
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but now i can give a shit depressingly
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admiring the light of his properties not
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even grudging I say Paul Stanley
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whatever you're made of
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good lord i wish it could be bottled and
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sold i mean gene Simmons you mean you
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you get the sense that they that they
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wheeled him to the stage in a handcart
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kind of little like wrath of khan here
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earlier but your ear scorpion that's in
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his head
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that's like saying motherfucker sing but
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Paul Stanley I mean right now he's
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probably on a fuckin jungle gym
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somewhere I don't know how he doesn't
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oh man can you imagine that the torture
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dangerous intercourse that he has at his
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oh my god this show so horrible i
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remember seeing a video of them in a
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tease around the time of the i want to
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say when they you know look it up took
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off the makeup and I just remember the
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scene this video where they were i think
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mine on vh1 in a very straightforward
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way they were being interviewed for a
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documentary and possibly i mean my head
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he was in a hot tub he might have been a
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bear rug but there actually were like
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six girls in bikinis around him it was a
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most interesting i've ever seen
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let me make you a tape you should let me
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make you a tape of some good kid stuff
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they really get you rolling with it I've
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heard all the good comeback now that you
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have your newfound appreciation for pam
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and paul you should let me bring it back
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around it so there's a surprising amount
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of good kiss music I will not deny it
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some of the better some of them was the
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Petersons are really good
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it's only it's only overshadowed and
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contextualized by the fact that the
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lion's share of kiss music is a garbage
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keeping up on out it's like a hearing
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you be performed by people who are
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non-musicians and seal is being
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performed by angry vending machines and
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cepic also somehow reprehensible right i
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mean it's like kisses reprehensible
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yeah they seem more gross every year
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even in retrospect yeah they're not it's
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not that they are it's not that they are
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diabolical which is what they think they
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are and it's not that they are a like
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somehow they're certainly not sensual
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like whatever it is that def leppard and
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led zeppelin had yeah where you get the
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you get the sense that they are like
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uh they're really bad things are
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happening backstage bad in a good way
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yeah with kiss it's just like no they're
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just this this is where time is not on
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their side as below insane family court
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that's it that's the thing is like if
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they had stopped in a tease you go out
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look at that it's a bunch of like
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sexually potent like elemental creatures
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that got older and decided to call it
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quits and now in retrospect all you can
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see is like a creepy creepy uncle pinky
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but like for the entire time now in
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retrospect you go oh my god you always
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been like the creepy uncle yeah right
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what it's like it so you can just what
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you've heard gene Simmons talking the
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last 10 years you can you see the
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interview from making 75 to go oh my god
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you were already an old creep he was
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already that way yeah I we've said it
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before gene simmons is a is a Donald
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Trump and dragon foods no good anyway so
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by new years resolution yes is serious
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it's really it's actually it's that I
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don't usually make resolutions super
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serious but i'm making a resolution it's
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honest it's legit
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it's legit ok i'm making and I'm making
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an honest resolution which and and I and
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I and I IRA hesitate to say because I've
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because I've seen that this type of
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thing before and i have i have no
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authority over myself somehow but um I
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don't I do not intend to direct my
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energy any direction this year other
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than in the direction of making music
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whoa I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
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directed in the direction of being a
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talk show host or a feature writer or a
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like a dumb a comedy persona or a goofus
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smooth mcgroove office or a you know a
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dingbat mcdonald hey i'm gonna get at
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the group that i'm good just I'm not am
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I gonna do any of that going out to the
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I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna see what
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lives in the in the music in the music
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bed and the music friends and exciting
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decision John yeah because they're you
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know music I've never stopped playing
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music and I've never stopped tinkering
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with music and it's what people want
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from me but more importantly it's this
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it's this idea of like did I stop
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writing new music because i wanted to
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stop writing music or do I stop writing
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music because I just succumbed to not
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writing new music do you know it wasn't
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a decision or was it a fait accompli and
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he will give yourself a year to figure
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that out ya do I want to live the rest
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of my life having had that having and
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made that decision just as a sort of
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like well blue no i don't if I don't
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want to write music anymore i want to
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say like you know what I'm i do i'm not
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going to do this anymore i'm gonna do
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something else but not this like I'm
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animals in the boob director mealy-mouth
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kind of hunan decision
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um and so I got I got I i spent a year
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last year doing my talk show every week
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in Seattle and I learned a lot but one
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of the things i learned was that what I
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ended up doing was going in the
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direction of what I already knew huh
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right like when that whenever I came to
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a crossroads and I was like well you can
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you can start to try this thing which is
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like uncomfortable and you know like
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basically what it was was that first
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show that i did my first talk show where
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I wrote my monologue and I got up there
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and I was covered in flop sweat and I I
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didn't want to read the monologue so i
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was trying to recall it and it will
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combine you gotta go one way or another
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yeah it wasn't funny I was I was I was
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reaching for this thing that I'd written
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and I couldn't lay my hands on it and so
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over the course of the next month or so
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I did less and less preparation
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and more and more improvisation and the
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show got better and better and I was
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happier and happier and i took that as a
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lesson like well go in the direction of
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your happiness right you didn't do this
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show to make yourself unhappy and so I
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pursued the direction of my happiness
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which was in the direction of what I
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already knew how to do which was get up
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and tell a 25-minute story about a
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10-minute walk and that if I had said no
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you know what the structure of the show
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is that every week you're going to write
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a monologue and you're going to figure
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out how to deliver it i would have the
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show would have been super uncomfortable
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and super hard but now a year later I
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would know more i would i would have
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learned more because I would have been
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learning something and learning a new
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skill instead of instead of luxuriating
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in a thing I knew how to do not you mean
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and so I feel I don't feel like the the
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year was wasted I don't feel like the
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show was wasted
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um it was all it was all a good learning
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experience but when I look back at it
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the key component in my life that's
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missing is a relationship to work and I
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did everything I could to make that show
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not work for me to do and I need to that
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isn't what i need to do i need to learn
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how to work
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I don't want to work I don't I do not
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want to have to work i bought a lottery
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the only kidding I you know I bought out
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fucking lottery ticket because every
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little cell and my body is saying oh
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please please please please find a way
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to not have to face work over not even
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to not have to work but do not have to
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face work
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and I just can't I can't do it anymore I
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can't do it for the rest of my life
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yeah so that's my name is represented
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great resolution man face work at which
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to me is writing songs
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there's a lot to that though you got
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that you got the the writing and you've
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got the recording and and the playing
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and now i'm talking like The Cosby but
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you are but you're ready to embrace
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really kind of immersing yourself it
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sounds like you know and it's a it's a
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huge process that involves a lot of
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financial investment it involves a lot i
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mean a tremendous risk in the sense that
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I mean not in a way not a tremendous
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risk because if I the way that the world
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has changed if i put out music now
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somebody will want it it's not like
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before where I could hand in a record
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and the record label would say well we
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can't support this and then there would
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be the end like I can amanda palmer it
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and put it out there and there will be
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people who find us though the risk is
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only the same risk I've always been
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taking which is what if everybody in the
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world doesn't love me unconditionally
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yeah yeah yeah and you know what that's
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not any different at risk isn't any
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different
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yeah and you know finding the answer
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that question is never going to be as
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satisfying are useful as you might hope
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however that turns out you're right
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you're absolutely right much I you know
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I happen to know you're right i'm aware
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of this and so so i just have to I just
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have to do it and and all the way there
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was another guy in the world likes me
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shit i'm gonna go make something that
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wait a minute wait a minute are you sure
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they're not everybody in the world like
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Dez I like you
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thank you i like as you John yeah only
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three more days left in the year cells
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and that amazing so I had a shiny new
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year i have three more days to sit in
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the bathtub and say work works for jerks
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you could use that write that down put
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that in your your lyric book works for
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jerks regenexx and then in the new year
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I'm gonna have to wake up and say work
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is not for jerks it's the only thing
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really that gives life meaning work is
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the only thing leisure does not give
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life meaning
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yeah the hard part is getting started in
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any other part in our car is continuing
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yeah and then finishing that supposed to
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mean it's hard for hard part's three
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hard part's the three hard parts are
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actually enable bye-bye
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