Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► month they ask Seth boyer to help me say [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi to john john do [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► hello hi John how's it going good how [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► are you going I'm going great [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► I'm always checking my audio levels and [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► delivering packets we're good man [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► delivering packets power GTI Woody's app [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► you sound like you're really awake [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► well you know Merlin what I've been [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► doing I been looking at my facebook know [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► how's that going it's pretty mixed bag i [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► gotta say anything lot of kids uh you [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► know that's funny because I I understand [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► the appeal right I I every time i go on [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► facebook which is to say once a week I [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► see lots of fascinating links to very [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► interesting articles some of them [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► genuinely interesting and I and I go [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► down the facebook hole and I get in [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► there and see things and and I answer [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► all the facebook messages that I get [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► from people that probably could have [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► just emailed me [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► yeah and I accept the 15 friend requests [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► that have piled up since I was there [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► last and then I go ahead and shut it all [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► down to the light south and and I get it [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► I get why it's there i get i get a lot [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► of I get it I get it but I i'm not i'm [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► not a hater [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► hmm but uh but it's against or not it's [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► not it's not where I live [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► you don't see people just be happy with [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► their stuff yeah that's right I'm a guy [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► who likes other people to just be happy [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► with their stuff [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► Hakuna Matata never guess the namaste [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► joke around [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► mm-hmm [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► did you ever seen yourself 20 years ago [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► not only having something in your life [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► called friend request but that's [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► something that you just have to deal [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► with on a regular basis i think i did I [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► think haha i think i knew that was [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► coming it either thing that I periods me [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► is people who don't put pictures of [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► themselves in their stuff em you know [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► like like me I guess I was like a [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► profile picture [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► no i think i think it I think what it is [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► is that an Instagram is like this and [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► facebook to like there are people who [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► are who are genuinely working as [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► photographers who use those things to [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► showcase some of their photography and i [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► don't know i don't mean just [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► professionally but like there this is [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► their their sandbox where they're at the [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► platform is that where they play around [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► there taking pictures of other things [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► but then there are just a lot of people [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► who are on there and i don't mean taking [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► pictures of their food but like doing [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► our part see pictures of their plants [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► and pictures of their dog and empty park [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► benches [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► yeah this type of thing and after a [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► while a ana and I approve all that but [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► every you know every 15 to 20 pictures [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► the other post one of yourself [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► mmm got to take a selfie and put it on [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► there baby maybe you should have to [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► maybe it should be in the terms and [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► conditions like network we got to know [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► that you're here you know [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► yeah well i also like all of these [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► things are meant are ultimately meant as [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► as personal profiles right know who is [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► going to go on because because I mean if [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► you if all you think of if the only [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► people following your Instagram account [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► are your friends and they are you know [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► looking at pictures of of plants that [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► you took [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► I don't I don't understand why you're [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► there right the whole premise is that a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► stranger is going to be interested in a [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► post that you posted that got forwarded [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► somewhere else and follow it back to [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► there and then start following you [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► somebody that you don't know that's why [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► any of us have more than 15 followers [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► and so when that person then follows you [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► and is interested in your views and [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► interested in your the look of what you [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► interested in your aesthetic then that [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► person legitimately and understandably [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► becomes interested in you and then they [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► want to see a freaking picture of you [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► and so right that that's there are there [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► are relatively few there are pictures [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► who take not but photos of oneself and [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► then there are people who very rarely [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► photographed themselves and i have to [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► say it there seems to be a concomitant [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► with getting older like maybe you don't [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► want your meat out there five times a [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► yeah but that's the thing of just like [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► get you know get over your meat beard [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► it's you gotta gotta put it there even a [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► good shape face level because we're [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► looking at each other [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► its the hole i mean its social [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► networking we are looking at each other [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► and all the time i'll i'll see some [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► interesting thread i'll go there I'll be [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► like oh I like these pictures [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► oh that's cool that's cool and then when [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► i get to like picture 50 and I've seen [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► no-selfie I'm like oh wait a minute do [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► you really think that your pictures [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► fucking matter I mean do you really [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► think that were scared to see pictures [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► of flowers and whatever else telling me [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► it's a kind of performance and part of [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► that performance has got to be even if [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► it's just like a picture of you [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► reflected in the in the window of a shop [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► that you're taking a picture of like a [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► little something a little sign that you [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► are that you are here with us here with [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► the residence [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► let's see what i notice I'm not on [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► instagram i'm not on facebook but I do [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► take pictures and when I look over [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► well first of all obviously because of [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► having a phone with a camera I do a lot [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► of take pictures of funny signs just [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► because I thought it was funny i don't [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► always post you do that you do that yes [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► we about [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► you know I there's a lot of don't post [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► on the curator Tara very editorial as [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► they say you but you know what you know [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► what I wish we had more of like I i [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► think we have and I've taken a fair [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► number of pictures of my kid at first [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► I'll just say it we do not have that [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► many pictures of our family together we [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► take pictures of the kid we take [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► pictures of the kid and one of us but we [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► don't also my wife's not a big fan of [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► being photographed nor my daughter but [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► it's but it's funny because like I look [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► at family photos from my childhood and [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► there's a lot of photos of the family [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► posed pictures where we all took a photo [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► together and we don't I don't flick this [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► maybe it's just me but I think there's [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► not as much of that as there used to be [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► especially given the raw tonnage of [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► photos that are being taken [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► yeah you have many of those of the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► family unit well we make it we make a [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► point you know to a every once in awhile [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► and I mean we did it we did it just [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► yesterday we were all together on a [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► ferry boat and we were taking pictures [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► of the waves and taking pictures of the [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► birds and taking pictures of the baby [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► looking at the waves and the birds take [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► pictures of the misspelling tell you [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► that's right taking pictures of the [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► hilarious sign on the men's room door up [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► an appetite and then it was like oh wait [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► a minute let's stop and take a picture [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► of ourselves together and we did it [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► selfie style but here we all are and and [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► and the reason that we do it is because [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► when you look back at the pictures from [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► three years ago all those like men's [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► room door and bird pictures are made a [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► hundred times more interesting if [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► there's a picture of you in there to [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► locate the time and place and show the [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► show the gray and your beard and show [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► how much the baby's grown and etc etc [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► right like like if you if you if you're [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► not if you're not marking time with the [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► one thing that we actually care about [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► which is our ourselves our lives right [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► and here it is buried in his very is [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► very different cause like I again east [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► cost money to take pictures right you [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► gotta buy the film you got to get [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► processed you couldn't just take [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► pictures of everything [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► unless your kid got the camera went [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► crazy or something but yeah there's such [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► a huge shift [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► I mean think about now I mean like on [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► the one hand the stuff people post is [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► more about like what I'm seeing you [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► think about you know I mean like for the [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► guns people on tumblr is the closest [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► thing I have to Instagram and it's a lot [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► of you know stuff like funny signs or [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► here's my food or whatever but you know [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► it's it's a way of saying is a the shot [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► that you chose the thing that's in it [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► how you shot it its kind of made to be [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► posted and it's made to be uh this is [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► what it's like to be me in some ways yes [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► exactly that's exactly right and and the [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► idea the idea that that a selfie is like [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► egotistical is so hilarious to me [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► because really it's the idea that [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► anybody gives a fuck about your pictures [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► at all thats egotistical like your [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► picture of a bird or flower manhole [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► cover is something that we should [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► celebrate because because you framed it [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► in in your phone like no we the only [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► thing that's interesting about us is [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► that we are alive and alive for a short [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► time right and if we were if we all live [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► none of this would be interesting no one [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► would take a picture of a single fucking [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► thing because it would be like yeah [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► right yeah right like I saw it right [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► trees grow trees live and die and we are [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► still here so uh I don't need to see a [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► picture of the past they think yeah yeah [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► I think that's interesting about the [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► past is that is that we are that we are [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► finite but but you know the other thing [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► is think about like how different that [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► is even the photos that i would take [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► with my old crummy camera like our show [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► art with the old crome camera on my old [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► crummy phone like you think about like [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► what's changed and now like it doesn't [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► cost anything except for the space on [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► your phone to take a photo so it's it's [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► it's economical to the point of almost [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► being free other big difference we get [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► to see how it turned out and maybe take [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► 15 photos of the same thing but also [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► kind of long lines of our last episode [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► where we talked about you know what what [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► you post what people say about it [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► I'm kind of meticulous about what I [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► leave out of photos now way more than I [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► to be where I'm much less likely just [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► because I even if i'm not planning to [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► post there's still some part of me [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► that's like oh I don't want that mess in [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► the photo right there or I don't know [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► what I mean there's dirt on this table [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► I never would have thought of that when [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► I was a kid I still not great so my [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► favorite photos a photo of my parents my [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► dad smoking a cigarette of course my mom [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► smoking a cigarette of course and she's [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► just walked up to him at the table and [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► they've done something playful and now [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► she's giving him a hug and that's [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► awesome i will treasure that photo but [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► also it's just all the shit in the [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► background that's awesome [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► yes like it's a kitchen in a house where [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► people live there is an old-school coke [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► can from the nineteen seventies that [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► just looks awesome [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► yes in you know it's got that all that [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► kind of ugly shit that every family had [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► in their house dumb dishes you know [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► unclean kitchen and it's it's delightful [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► and I i would be i have to say a little [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► bit reluctant to take that photo today i [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► am only partly conference about why that [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► do you feel such things do you do you [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► think about a lot about something you're [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► more freewheeling about what your [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► photograph [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► no I mean I I'm very I'm very aware of [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► the frame but i always try to include [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► something in the frame that that adds [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► that context that you're saying you know [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► a like a car or a all the stuff that you [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► think of as as like garbage extraneous [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► beverage ephemera but that is really the [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► thing that 15 years from now you're [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► gonna look back and go oh my god I [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► remember that car [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► yeah I'm grandparents house there's a [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► picture of their they're ugly AMC in in [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► the in the driveway which is fun to see [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► that you have the old AMC by my [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► grandfather had an AMC dealership and [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► national AMC dealership with end [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► yeah are you kidding me no no I'm pretty [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► sure your grandfather had a national or [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► punitive worked at it but we were we [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► were automobile people at one point I [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► did not know that after all this time to [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► discover something that interesting [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► well there you go this is 1am cement [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► something move yeah but what's great [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► about the photo is the stuff that was [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► not meant to be in the photo which is I [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► go oh look at that [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► I see grandma's rose garden you can see [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► it must be well i think most CEOs [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► holidays holidays my grandfather would [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► always put the flag out and seeing their [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► front porch and how it was arranged at [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► that time that's like that all that [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► stuff is all like that's the best part [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► of it that's what makes the photo so [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► great you know well and yeah so I so I [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► feel I feel like I mean I have a lot of [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► I have a lot of friends that post a lot [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► of pictures that fall into the you know [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► think the coffee table book category [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► right where we're like 20 years ago they [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► went into a Barnes & Noble and found at [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► ashen published book on on fire hydrants [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► in America someday i will take photos of [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► birds on wires yeah and then they [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► they're out with their camera and [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► they're like I want to do this I want to [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► do something like this and they develop [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► a theme like I'm the person that takes [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► pictures of a you know manhole covers or [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► whatever and and I have a friend who has [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► a boo-boo as a blog called Street seats [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► and all she does is take pictures of [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► chairs that people have left on the side [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► of the road and it's wonderful because [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► the chairs are very evocative and it's a [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► variance of you know the limitations i [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► contribute to one there's nothing but [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► mattresses mattresses history inspired [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► by my friend John Gruber who every time [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► he sees when he says this kid will take [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► a nap when I get a but but ultimately [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► like uh ultimately you know you want [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► some of the character of the curator in [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► there that's that's and I think more and [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► more now the idea of like that [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► journalists are invisible and that [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► though that they're writing in in the [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► omniscient and if and dispassionate [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► voice and that curators are invisible [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► and the work speaks for itself and all [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► this i feel that is less and less [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► convincing now and that there never was [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► a 0 there ever was a journalistic voice [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► that was you know that was completely [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► objective [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► and to continue to pretend is a and [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► maybe doing a disservice that there is a [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► way to be to strive for objectivity but [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► have a subjective voice at the same time [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► and that is you know that is that that [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► the voice can be personal but the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► thoughts are still owe still striving to [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► be a as objective as possible and you [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► can have because there are tons of it [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► tons of examples of people where the [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► voice is very objective but the thoughts [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► are incredibly subjective anytime you [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► read The Wall Street Journal you see [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► like the the objective voice masks what [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► is ultimately a very pointed worldview [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► right and that's the that's the failure [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► of the of the objective journalist I [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► mean that the most basic level the most [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► rain bring that obvious thing that's [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► always worth mentioning is that what you [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► choose to cover is a voice exactly like [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► what you pick as the top story how you [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► write the lead or the headline or [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► what-have-you like all those all of [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► those things are a kind of voice but [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► doesn't you know even with that there's [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► no way you can disappear from that right [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► and so let's let's stop pretending and [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► make the make the personal voice just [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► acknowledge it and say like hi I'm I'm [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► the reporter i am writing this article [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► and here's why this interest me and then [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► strive for some objectivity in your [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► thoughts and that what that involves is [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► like openly visibly questioning your own [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► assumptions in the thing that you write [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► and I feel like that's true in [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► photojournalism to and in just the fun [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► sort of a pseudo photojournalism that [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► were all practicing now it's like wire [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► you know like who are you why are not [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► only where are you taking these pictures [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► but like who are you [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► well this is where i put a little on [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► buck at how I think it's I love that hat [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► that's a great hat loves pro-wrestling [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► your bark at the bar that um and [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► I invoice really douchey but I'm you [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► know I think it depends on who you think [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► about as your audience because it's [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► almost like the way you do a certain [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► kind of line reading of exactly the same [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► same line you know you can think about a [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► word like that a word that I love a word [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► like Hello like how you say hello could [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► be very funny or very serious or very [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► grave or invoke something so when I go I [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► know my family knows i'm making a joke [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► about Project Runway that Project Runway [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► joke you know what I say [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► haha that's a different kind of hello [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► hello hello [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► that's a different kind of hello right [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► it's all the same number no I don't want [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► any of these fellows from you [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► hello no thank you and then all the [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► other contestants respond so I that but [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► I guess what I think of like yes way I [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► think most people are doing its thing I [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► like what I see and it's not my opinion [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► it's my sensibility I think people like [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► showing other people with their [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► sensibility is some people like a you [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► know CSC this is a number so great for [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► summer so terrible for lots of things I [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► think it's great that is following [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► obsessives so or finding people who [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► curate strange kind of obsessions like [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► four jet for example you ever seen a [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► rich kids on instagram i get forwarded [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► that all the time it's really it's [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► really funny [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► it's super funny and I get forwarded it [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► at in reply to my contention that no one [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► has it easy because I make that [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► contention periodically but no idea [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► exactly proves that person doesn't have [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► it easy and as they have a helicopter [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► and 17 watches and they're still unhappy [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► and have to show it to you before they [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► feel anything [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► yeah I that is that's it's self-evident [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► that's my reply to when people are like [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► no one has it easy what about this and [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► they send me some pictures of a kid in a [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► in a Learjet with the what [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► 20 watchers and I'm like do you not see [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► that this is a very unhappy person you [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► know so many people refuse to accept the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► even assholes are unhappy so unhappy [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► that's why they're assholes I mean that [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► it doesn't hurt [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► present company excepted of course [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► but-but-but alive buddy in the cat Casey [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► I'm not going with this but like you [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► know here's the thing [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► there are topics and there's a reason [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► i'm not on Instagram there's a variety [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► of there are thousands of reasons I'm [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► instagram I mean least of which is I [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► don't want to feel compelled to have to [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► have my sensibility on instagram i think [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► the app is weird i think the whole [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► environment is strange but you know a [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► big part of it is voices hopefully the [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► ugliest thing i'll say this month now I [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► don't need to see anymore latte art I'm [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► good like a desert with one bite out of [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► it I get it [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► that's really really cool when I hope [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► that is the ugliest thing you say this [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► month i really do for you and we're [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► thinking about the black eye [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► I agree and I don't you know I i went [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► onto Instagram instead of going on to [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► something else and now I you know I'm [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► here trapped there and like I said the [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► other day like there really are only [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► five places I go on the internet and [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► embarrasses me every time I pick up my [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► phone every time I pick up jonathan [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► coulton phone and scroll through four [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► hundred apps [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► I'm like there and 13 pages on my iphone [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► I'm like what am I doing with my life I [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► don't have any of these amazing apps [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► yeah and I think I when I stare at the [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► internet and I think like I should go [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► I should go on the internet more and [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► have more places where I go and do [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► activities but i think i do see the [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► internet quite a bit I think I follow [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► I'm a link follower I you know I hyper a [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► hyperlink em from one link to another at [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► hyper speed is the ax HTML for that IQs [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► XHTML hello which is valid and I go I [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► link around and I zip and zap and I see [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► like 15 celebrities who married a cousin [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► and I see you know you don't give you [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► followed us because you might be [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► interested in ones that take you to zerg [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► net minder to blur get paid dot out [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► brave dot uh are you deserve that's my [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► favorite because you click i don't know [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► talking something about this the other [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► day we both like I don't know why [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► fucking click on this it was I don't [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► usually do this hardly ever but is it [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► was like something like 17 gay [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► celebrities who played straight people [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► it's like Nathan Lane but what I [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► literally Nathan Lane is gay [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► holy shit i can't believe it i'm so glad [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► i click on this when you go to this [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► internet page get on the landing page [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► and you don't even see the article you [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► see a page of list of articles where [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► yours is the the top-left pic but i [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► think it's it's yeah it's it's it's [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► listicles all the way down [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► well I you know I got bullied not [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► bullied that's that's sorry trigger [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► alerts I got uh I was encouraged by my [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► social network in real life my for my [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► words i'm so fucking sick of war might [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► be meatspace social network of actual [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► meat meat people maybe meet singles that [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► unit up in circles that I know that were [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► like listen they said to me the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► beginning of the this this football [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► season they were like listen we want you [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► to come and watch football with us every [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► Sunday but you can't just come and sit [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► in the back and eat the food and [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► everyone so I'll yell sports and spill [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► your non-alcoholic beer right we want [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► you to sit in the cassette on the couch [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► get engaged in the game be part of the [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► be part of the action [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► obviously it was a kind of a second [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► chance or last chance like okay you [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► really want you here but that we get you [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► gotta play by the rules [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► I mean I go I go to lots of sports [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► events and I have a very good time at [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► the move and I'll and I enjoy my friends [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► that like sports and so this was like [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► hey we are friends and this is what we [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► like to do and we're inviting you into [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► our that but it's their world it's [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► that's right there like this is our [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► Colts were inviting you to church on [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► Sunday you don't sit-in up in the pew at [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► the back of the church and make fart [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► sounds people come to church with us not [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► pirates [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► you don't have to you don't have to take [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► communion you don't have to go up and [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► and and and do a confession but if [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► you're gonna come to church with us you [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► know coming like sing the hymns and be a [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► part of the scene so I was like okay I [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► do want to do that and I went and I got [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► in and we got involved watching the [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► seahawks and and mostly watching my [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► friends get very emotional emotional [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► about it about a sports event [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► and I was you know I've been watching [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► that my whole life because my dad would [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► get very emotional about sports events [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► and I don't have a comment about it one [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► way or the other I'm not critiquing at [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► all I'm just observing it and saying [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► like here we are and we are very upset [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► right now I am upset on behalf of [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► everyone about the way that that last [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► play was that play was handled and I [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► feel like that running back should have [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► done a different thing [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► uh-huh and gotten I'm upset about it not [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► mad and so watching the seahawks I'm I'm [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► invested in them and I like them and I [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► think Richard Sherman is smart and [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► interesting and I think Marshawn Lynch [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► is very interesting i'm gonna be like [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► just got out got a lot of hard ison feel [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► like he's a very interesting person I [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► think he does have quite a bit of heart [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► and the coach pete carroll what a kook [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► he's really enough and I do feel like [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► he's had a big effect on the team and so [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► forth and so on and then I watched that [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► last game the NFC playoff game that [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► everybody's yelling about [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► ok and it was so extraordinary to be [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► behind the entire game and to be [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► demonstrable e the lesser of the two [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► teams on the field the other team uh the [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► team from Wisconsin which is named after [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► a meat packing job butchers basically [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► they should have been called the [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► butcher's we're they were doing a [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► fantastic job of playing the football [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► game and the Seahawks were doing a [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► terrible job except for Marshawn Lynch a [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► person i find very fascinating and then [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► in the 11th hour literally the last two [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► minutes of the game they somehow through [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► a combination of moxie and hubris and [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► sports acumen why can't you do this [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► rather get it [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► Rose rose to victory and shocking the [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► nation and shocking anyone who seemed [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► legitimately like old-school fucking [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► blown away by what happened it was [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► astonishing and to watch it in real time [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► particularly to watch it in a room full [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► of die hard for [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► people who for the two hours prior had [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► been pacing around the room throwing [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► their uh you know there are seven layer [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► dip on the floor and saying this game is [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► over we should just turn it off this you [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► know this team had a good run and good [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► for them and well you know what [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► that's just how the cookie crumbles and [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► you know they were they were actually [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► speaking that way about it to each other [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► and and hilariously I was the one [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► sitting calmly on the couch saying you [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► know the seahawks always rally you like [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► the designated optimist I was like this [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► is what did they do this all the time [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► they they're they're behind at the half [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► and then they they have some miracle and [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► people were like not listening to me [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► because I'm not a sports guy they were [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► they were ignoring me they were talking [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► over the top of me and I was like listen [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► you know marshawn's having a hell of a [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► game and I feel like I feel like there's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► still a lot of game left to play [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► still two minutes on the clock I mean [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► and they were they were ready to turn [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► the game off right and then watching the [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► team come back and seeing the [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► transformation seeing new life [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► breathes into these people not just in [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the moment but like they're year looks [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► different there wherever they are right [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► now these friends of mine they are [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► walking around feeling differently than [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► they would have felt have they lost that [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► football game like how are you are you [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► kind of have you sort of arrived now and [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► their eyes today dig a little more [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► credit you think the only as good as [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► your last game but that's pretty good [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► they don't care at one point at one [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► point that we were we were completely [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► behind we had no points and I said you [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► know what [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► because where there's a big buffet cover [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► with food and I said you know what no [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► one's even one of those blue cupcakes [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► yet and even though I'm ostensibly [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► gluten-free I'm gonna go eat one of [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► those blue cupcakes to rally this team [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► because it's this is the kind of sports [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► thinking that happens right like yeah [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► it's like rally cap [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► yeah exactly you're not wearing the [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► shoes that you were the last game what [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► are you are you trying to jinx us and I [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► was like I'm gonna go eat a blue cupcake [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► and I when I grabbed a blue cupcake i [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► sat down took a bite out of it [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► it was a terrible blue cupcake and [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► immediately the seahawks scored their [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► first touchdown on a completely nutty a [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► like fake outplay and everybody in the [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► room turned at me and stared at me like [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► I had just conjured as a wizard like I [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► had just conjured a fox [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► haha we were suddenly there was a live [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► fox it looking for a nexus and i'm just [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► sitting there with the smug blue [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► frosting smile on like what did I tell [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► and so for the for the next 45 minutes [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► every time anything good happened on the [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► team [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► I you know half the people in the room [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► with turning-point me and go [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► it's the cupcake and so I can play I can [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► play this I can play the cupcake but in [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► fact we're at the end when the Seahawks [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► won i was given no credit for my sorcery [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► because it was clear that it was that [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► they had appeal to a higher level which [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► is to say Jesus who cared about the game [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► to say there's no cupcaking team but [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► what's happened to me is that that [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► transformation on the field was so [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► extraordinary that I actually two days [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► later was sitting uh you know in my room [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► staring at the wall as I normally do and [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► a voice in my head said I'd kind of like [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► to read something about the seahawks [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► right now and i went and i read an [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► account of the game [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► written by a sports writer and I found [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► it very pleasurable because i saw that [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► game and i wasn't i was involved in it [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► now i'm reading his thoughts on it which [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► comport with mine and then i read a lot [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► of people in the comments and the people [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► who are against the seahawks said bad [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► things and the people who are in favor [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► of the seahawks said haha [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► suck it to the to the angry people and [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► and that comported with my feelings and [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► so now having had that experience where [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► I got a gratification from reading a [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► sports article then I was like what the [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► next day I said [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► well let's try that again and I when I [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► read another sports article i also [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► enjoyed it and then the third day I read [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► a Sports article prognosticating about [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► the future of the upcoming game and that [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► go well it's you know it's harder to [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► know because it hasn't happened yet [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► that's true so this guy's talking about [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► sports events that haven't happened and [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► I had a harder time [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► um you know feeling confident I'm with [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► that one now more than ever now you've [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► your third gateway here now you have to [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► start forming an opinion of your own [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► yeah right now are apart from what you [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► came into it with I have to because I [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► can sit there and read this article and [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► say like well Marshawn Lynch sure does [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► make a lot of plays and that's true [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► Richard Sherman is injured so that [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► affects things but the Patriots a Tom [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► Brady he's a real he makes some [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► completions mhm and now I don't know now [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► I don't know what to think [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► I also now all i can do is say well I'm [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► rooting for them to do anything now [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► they're going to the Super Bowl right [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► we're going to the Super Bowl now are [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► you invited to that [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► am I invited to this code your time out [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► to the superbowl party 171 I would be [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► except that i will be in on a little [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► thing called the joke cruise on now I'm [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► sorry gonna miss that that man that this [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► could be your this is like your [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► quinceañera of football you know it's [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► not a shame but here's the thing about [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► about footballs is that i'm pretty sure [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that on the day of the superbowl we will [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► be able to watch it anywhere in the [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► Western Hemisphere yeah pollen stormy [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► man all the usual suspects all sitting [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► in the sitting in the cabinet spot a man [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► sad TT should watch with me but I do [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► that in a heartbeat [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► yeah it's a man is a hard person to know [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► whether she is like we're whatever she [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► decides that football is our secret [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► passion or she's deeply passionate about [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► it or whether she would blow it off [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► because amy has that has strange passion [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► right like some things that you would [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► owe you know what she's very into boxing [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► know any man is sweet science and heavy [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► man follows boxing religiously and is [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► very passionate about it I i would not [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► have guessed that so and in fact wrote [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► an album about boxing [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► it's called the boxing no it's not it's [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► called something else the heavyweight [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► champion [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► it's called sugar ray leonard I'm just [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► saying what [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► um so and this is the other thing about [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► sports you don't realize like who the [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► secret that there are all kinds of [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► people walking around in hard hats [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► painted in their team colors with two [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► beers attached to the Hat [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► uh-huh straws that you know like that [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► guy's a sports fan [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► ok but then there are all these people [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► like George will or a crazy with the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► baseball right I crazy about baseball or [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► milk george bundy or Bundy mcgeorge [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► driver that's right sergeant pepper and [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► that turns out they're all into sports [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► and you know well sports right okay this [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► is a thing that you can this is you know [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► and i'm now reading these sports [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► articles which are actually pretty well [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► written [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► they're not just guys are typing in all [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► caps [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► yell yell yell they're talking about [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► sports as though it's in a way [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► Merlin it's like um it's like people [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► that write history about war i know [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► there's that they I've heard this said [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► for many years that well now I'm [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► thinking that Kurt Vonnegut quote where [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► he says all the best writers at Cornell [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► era in the science program but I think [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► it's pretty well understood that some of [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► the most lively American writing of the [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► 20th century was writing about sports [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► people i really admire writing an [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► accident it's not just not just honest [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► Thompson but lots of people uh you know [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► actually legitimately writing about [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► sports [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► good writing legitimate writing about [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► sports legitimate writing i'm rarely [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► surprised to find out somebody like [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► sports [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► just because that's to me that's you [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► know it's like are probably says not [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► like the Beatles that's like not like an [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► air you know it's like I'm just so used [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► to everybody being into some kind of a [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► sport in some league at some level right [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► we even if thats mean they're alive a [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► lot [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► and who are really into soccer or like a [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► premier league soccer or even if that's [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► what I just don't understand it [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► I don't know like I could see that but i [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► know a lot of people i admire our into [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► soccer but I've been watching soccer [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► games my entire life and I just feel [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► like it's not this is not a bisque the [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► pace of this game is not one you know I [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► was raised different you know different [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► things like we watched the technology to [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► local sports ball team here was in the [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► the the baseball series this year we [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► watch that it was pretty fun it was [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► pretty fun I mean it was you know some [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► good games and stuff and it's not it's [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► fun you know I got a kid you know I hate [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► basketball and that makes me very [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► unpopular with is it about basketball [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► well it's that it's that it just goes [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► back and forth back and forth back and [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► forth and you just you know both teams [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► score honored points and then the whole [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► game is decided in the last three [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► minutes by like who scored the last two [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► points is gonna quit it quit it is a [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► very frustrating game [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► it feels like basketball game should be [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► three minutes long and they should just [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► you know like first-team 24 points wins [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► can't hear that understand about college [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► is you can make you can make points by [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► throwing the ball through the hoop [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► things you got all these guys running [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► around but then there's two interesting [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► things to know but don't you have to be [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► on a broom [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► that's right and as i understand it now [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► see I've been very I'm only gonna say [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► this to you because i don't actually [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► want to have this argument with somebody [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► in the harry potter community [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► ok but here's the thing as I understand [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► quidditch there's two interesting rules [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► about quidditch to make every other rule [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► pointless [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► ok first rule of Quidditch is that there [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► isn't there are quit yeah you do not [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► talk quits clock okay right now one down [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► and is that you got the role that the [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► harry has Al which is your the things [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► called the seeker and the secret goes [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► after this magical thing called the the [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► Golden Snitch ok and if you get get the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► Golden Snitch you know how many points [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► to get how many a hundred and fifty a [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► hundred and fifty points to get the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► golden snake ok that's well that's [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► that's really important rule number one [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► you're ready for important rule number [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► two the game is not over until somebody [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► catches the Golden Snitch [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► alright what are the other ways to score [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► just 10 20 a fucking ball through a hoop [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► like I'm like a MOOC also think about [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► that the games are over to be [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► excited when you get the snitch nothing [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► else matters right so it's just a game [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► of getting the snitch why bother scoring [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► all that the other point here comes the [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► Owls that's the that's the wizard [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► version of email so you're going to get [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► me to get you so into harry potter oh [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► you're gonna get emails from people who [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► are like the whole point of this is the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► other parts to get the blood but really [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► yes it's a it's like a winner take all [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► situation especially more of a test of [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► character [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► no man i am the worst i'm the worst gets [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► funny you should say this though because [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► we talked about like you no surprise [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► that who likes sports like I was not [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► into comics for 30-some years not [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► against it i made fun of it a little bit [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► but you know haha nerds reading comics [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► and then as you know I got kind of [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► comics couple years ago less SuperDuper [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► into it right now but now I mean you [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► can't swing a dead cat without running [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► into somebody who's a giant comics fan [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► and like so many people that so the [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► island clearly states to contrast this [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► to other people today given that [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► Marvel's going to have you know between [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► Marvel DC I read something an amazing [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► article on Grantland how did we get to [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► talking about marvel vs DC over the next [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► three to four years i believe there's [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► going to be 70 superhero movies coming [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► out so it should be no it's I mean [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► that's too many and literature is [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► surprised to know one that people like [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► comics now and yet when i hear something [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► like oh nothing such person really likes [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► comments more like wow that's kinda cool [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► i wouldn't guess that right but it is [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► kind of the literature of nerdy as [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► another one like it's it's surprising [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► how many people were not just playing [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► D&D but we're super into some aspect of [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► dnd but you know there's not that many [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► shirts for adults about what and I feel [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► like I i saw this i mean i-i can't speak [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► to the comics experience [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► ok I'll bring it back Harry Potter but I [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► i remember and I'm sure you do too but I [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► I it was profoundly true here in Seattle [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► that in 1991-92 and i don't mean to [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► always talk about punk rock [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► but in 1991-92 everybody in seattle was [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► scrambling to reconstruct their personal [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► history in such a way that they had [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► always been punk and that they were they [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► they were the one kid in their high [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► school that got a ton of shit for being [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► talked about curation yeah right i mean [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► but seriously I mean that the kind of [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► manicure history and the and the kind of [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► Stalinist photo editing that might look [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► like that time you were a garbage bag on [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► punk rock day shows that you are punk [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► since you got a working your punk the [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► whole time that's right and and and it [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► involved not it wasn't I don't think all [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► dishonest because there are a lot of [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► people that had had a very you know [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► interesting childhood in the eighties [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► but the selective remembering of events [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► and like you say the one time on [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► Halloween that they put they made a [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► mohawk out of out of shaving cream in [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► their hair that picture became the [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► picture that was that was on their [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► refrigerator and was like yeah man you [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► know back in back in Central Valley [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► California I was one pumpkin my whole [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► school and it was very important to [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► everybody that there that they have [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► their bona fides for their bona fides [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► depending on who you want to ask all in [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► a row because nobody wanted to be [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► because there was one of the things [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► about punk rock is that there was [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► nothing uncool ER than being new to the [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► scene right because that was what up [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► that was what a poser was you didn't [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► want to say like actually I was just a [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► total like normal like preppy nobody and [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► then I decided the punk-rock really [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► meant something to me when it became [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► popular [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► mhm and so it was it was ridiculous and [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► I remember I remember saying at the time [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► like I've been to a lot of places in [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► America I remember exact remember [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► exactly how many punk rockers there were [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► in the united states in 1985 and that it [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► was just to say not that many [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► he's seen probably seen most of the time [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► I saw a lot of them because you know i [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► was i was a young person i was traveling [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► and I those were small scenes [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► and they were you know little readouts [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► against the culture and it is not [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► possible that every single person who in [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► 2019 92 claimed to have been punk it's [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► not possible that they all were popping [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► sound like our generations version of [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► claiming to be a good stuff right or [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► yeah right there claiming to have been [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► on a tear at d-day or whatever and I [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► feel the same way about Dungeons and [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► Dragons because i did play Dungeons and [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► Dragons but not very much or very well I [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► was very into D&D culture and the [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► concise right there with you i spent [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► much more time drawing Maps anything oh [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► I drew maps and I made dungeons and I [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► and I SAT and dreamt of like how many [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► platinum pieces i could put in the hold [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► of the ship i was building and i will [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► you indeed encumbrance I'm what does [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► encumbrances where you can only carry so [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► much stuff it like it affects your [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► fighting and movement speed if you're [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► carrying when so many pounds of stuff [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► no i did not do that i did not really [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► follow the rules of Dungeons and Dragons [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► at all right but i but I poured over the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► Lord the Lord in the books and the dice [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► and the figures in the hex paper it's [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► like it was it's so fun loved it i still [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► have my dice I still you know I have the [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► matter in a special place on my mantle I [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► still think about those days and I you [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► know I was profoundly invested in the [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► idea of that magic was real and that you [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► know and that this interesting a sort of [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► cool osh of like medieval culture but [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► they are in an alternate universe and [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► also its kind of futuristic her that [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► that that that is the you know that is [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► the dilithium crystal boot powers all of [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► nerd culture this like troika of [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► influences fantasy are alternate [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► universe possibilities medieval [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► technology but somehow also inexplicably [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► in the future or using futuristic [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► technology to loved it I loved it ate it [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► with a spoon but I can [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► not honestly say to you that I in any [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► real way played D&D you know because I [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► probably played the actual game of D&D [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► with a dungeon master and a campaign [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► probably played it five times [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► I just wasn't interested in another [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► thirteen-year-old kid governing my [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► journey to middle-earth i-i-i handle all [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► of that in my imaginarium but but when I [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► hear about in needham antium with minor [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► bantam but now I'd like I was just at [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► Woodstock right and how long do you [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► think before dungeons and dragons came [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► up with in the you know in the [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► meet-and-greet like within two 2 r2 [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► middle parsecs 24 seconds and four [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► section seven so I'm standing back there [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► and now we're all talking about Dungeons [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► and Dragons and I can I because of my [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► own personal integrity i cannot jump in [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► and say I play D&D but I feel people do [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► that and I and I look at them and I go [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► did you really play [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► I mean are you a fake geek girl is that [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► what I'm saying oh boy i did you really [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► play dnd or did you just did you redo [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► noon brush up against DNT and you know [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► enjoy some facet of it but i think it [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► now i don't know i disagree because i [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► think it still counts so that because [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► for me I mean I just cuz i play D&D by [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► that by my definition [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► yeah i mean like but I I mean you were [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► we say play D&D I think the thing there [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► is like how much did you connect with [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► the culture and in that case connecting [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► with culture for me was will big-time to [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► the point where like I practically had [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► scoliosis from carrying these five [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► hardcover books around school with me [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► all the time haha for heavy they are [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► heavy and there's a lot to there's a lot [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► to know [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► yeah I mean you know how many hit points [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► a bugbear has [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► 40 i don't know i don't either [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► I'll find out did you send me a link you [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► sent you a link to a photo from my high [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► school yearbook 1983 it's a photo from [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► punk-rock day punk rock day [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► Merlin Mann some-some heavily heavily [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► connected popular girls dressed up in [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► garbage bags [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► oh I have this fantastic picture from my [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► sophomore year halloween of the two like [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► cutest preppy girls wearing black [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► lipstick and um yeah like no man i get [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► that laminated garbage bags hurts a home [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► and you can rock me to sleep tonight I [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► would have been looking at it [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► I've been looking at it for 35 years [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► garbage bag mini skirt but it doesn't [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► make so hot it didn't make those girls [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► punk [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► I don't care yeah oh my god garbage bag [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► mini skirt [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► oh whoa oh my goodness [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► so now this is requiring that I sign in [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► to flickr nevermind important it's just [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► personal side ponytails wearing garbage [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► bags you know well now it's gonna be my [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► time on how come on yahoo now look here [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► on your mother's you're not a fan that [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► says sorry there was an error please [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► sign in again and i will add just like [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► with you to anybody who has access to [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► pictures of girls wearing garbage bags [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► in a cute way I think that would make a [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► great tumblr I'm just gonna toss it out [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► there pictures of like you [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► cucumber fresh from minerals not dead [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► girls that's super-important guys have [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► to be cute perky girls you would not [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► normally expect to our garbage bag [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► wearing a garbage bag in a sweet and [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► winsome way [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► Oh that'd be nice I would watch that [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► play some other ones i like a lot for [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► get back to harry potter how this Yahoo [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► what is yahoo why is it still there [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► I want to see the baby all right i want [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► to say but flicker like 15 years ago I [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► don't want to interact with the I don't [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► started to put it away put it away [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► alright alright uh craigslist mirrors [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► it's a taller nothing but photos of [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► mirrors that people have posted on [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► craigslist and they are endlessly [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► fascinating have you ever been fooled by [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► have you ever gone and looked at an ad [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► in craigslist on you don't know the bay [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► and it's it turns out that it's a guy [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► taking a picture of his uh his Don goal [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► in the reflection of my eye I saw the [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► name is photo of the man in the teapot [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► or whatever it was called the famous one [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► from a very very very long one of the [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► first means i remember was a picture of [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► a sort of a stout man taking a picture [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► of a teapot for ebay and you can clearly [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► see his dingus that I remember you [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► saying this is the thing is just like a [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► sexy thing it isn't thing i have i've [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► actually looked at an ad for a thing and [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► then realized I felt weird i'll come on [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► you think happens like it happens you'll [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► see it saw then saw up in the reflection [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► of a hubcap or something a guy in a in a [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► proposing Jack an appeal i can have been [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► opposing a banana hammock that would [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► that would put me off my beer whoo what [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► they've been out there again you just [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► nailed another one which is it's very [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► difficult to take pictures of some [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► things without having yourself in it and [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► I know that no matter how hard I try [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► what people are gonna notice most is [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► going to examine me in the picture of [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► the thing that I would you know what I [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► mean yeah like I get in realizing that i [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► posted the other night when I posted a [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► picture of the bell getting ready to do [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► our show that my course my reflection is [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► in it and haha o sea ice closed [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► you know I was BSB shirted I where I [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► work clothes all the time so it's not a [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► problem i do I wonder about this because [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► I enjoyed this enjoy selfies but I also [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► and and I think that I am vain but i [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► also have no way I'm the Hanuman I think [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► he just broke my programming [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► I try and unpacked the statement I think [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► I'm vain i think i may my real involved [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► three sets up football i am but about up [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► but i also have a very clear-eyed [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► picture in of like what I actually look [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► like and what we're that where that [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► falls you know like I don't think that I [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► am beautiful [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► I don't know i'm not done you know just [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► selfies like it just before they have [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► named it was just always a picture of a [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► girl taking a picture of herself in the [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► bathroom mirror and like I would you [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► just became like a thing and like the [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► cute girl taking a picture yourself in [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► the bathroom mirror [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► the only thing that made me like those [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► photos much more than today's modern [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► selfies are that yes they were less sort [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► of contrived but also they look at the [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► lens the thing I can't say that thing [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► that drives me nuts i stand somebody's [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► gonna have to explain this to me someday [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► I don't understand why all selfies [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► including celebrity selfies are prayin [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► primarily of somebody chimp and thrown [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► camera while they take a picture [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► what does that mean champion I like when [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► you're looking at the preview of the of [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► the thing when you're looks like instead [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► of taking a picture of yourself looking [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► into the lens [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► oh you're looking at yourself looking at [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► yourself looking at your camera taking a [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► picture of you i can't I don't [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► understand that either but i think the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► doctor today I think that's maybe that's [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► part of the lure is that they're looking [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► at themselves and can see now we're back [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► to rowland park now whatchu think we're [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► down to sure at this point happy looking [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► at a picture of yourself in a mirror [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► looking at a picture of yourself on your [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► own and you know set up [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► oh yes I think I i think i agree with [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► you i find that hotter summers in the [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► sense in the sense that pearl really [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► looking at me looking at me look at me [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► for the for a long time [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► the only thing i found a erotic about [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► porn movies was that moment in every [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► porn movie where the actress can't help [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► but look at the camera was like yeah [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► there's this there's there's always [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► there's always a moment where she is [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► either saying like are you getting this [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► or just like she just can't she just [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► breaks the fourth wall and that was [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► always the moment that made the kind of [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► that that brought the whole because the [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► fantasy of like I'm just the guy [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► delivering pizzas and whoa [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► yes the load ladies like it could never [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► I was never invested in any of those [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► fancy i'm talking attempted to our young [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► listeners who do not understand what i [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► am talking about [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► talking about an actual actual for a [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► time before contemporary porn when it [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► was actual feature-length movies that [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► purported to have a plot where people [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► had unlikely sex will get a lot of [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► business negotiations gone wrong [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► yeah misunderstandings about money [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► people come in and then you know like [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the someone comes in to take dictation [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► education you got problems with Dinah [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► Kabul you might want to get the cable [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► fixed [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► yeah the guys sitting at a bar and the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► bartender and he are there alone and [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► things get a little out of hands a lot [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► of a lot of it seems to involve women [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► needing a favor [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► oh right right it all kind of work it [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► out because they like intercourse [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► strangers and I feel like there was that [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► moment in the eighties when all of a [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► sudden it was not the lady going to the [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► boy doctor but it was the boy going to [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► the lady doctor will switcheroo little [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► feminist like like inversion of your [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► expectations [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► yes but all of those plots were not very [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► interesting and and and what was [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► interesting where those moments where [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► the boom mike came into the shot or or [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► one of the one of the people just for a [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► second glance to right into the camera [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► and it was like right this is being made [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► this movie is being made in a motel room [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► in you know like probably four blocks [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► from where the tonight show is being [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► filmed and I uh and dad is interesting [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► to me or you know that was interesting [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► to my young libido in a way my young [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► sentence is not just a little on POV [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► cumshot it does all of you the you the [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► reader a little bit of insight right she [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► just kind of looked she she didn't she [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► done it wasn't aware of looking at me [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► she was almost looking at her own [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► reflection in the lens of the of 35 [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► millimeter film camera that is recording [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► this for posterity but i do feel like [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► that you're right that looking into the [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► phone pointing it into the mirror that [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► there's something erotic being [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► communicated their yeah [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► yeah 70 semiotic semi semi on a titanium [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► now how does that relate back to [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► Quidditch that's not important [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► i mean i-i got into an argument with [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► somebody on the internet the other day [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► where she said something to the effect [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► of she was trying to make common cause [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► with me and said something like blah [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► blah blah blah blah something from Harry [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► Potter universe am i right [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► mm and I was like eating get the [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► reference i didn't get the reference and [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► I didn't get why she thought I would and [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► I was like I don't you know Harry Potter [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► doesn't I'm not even doing see that i'm [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► such a crappy nerd [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► I mean I have friends that are so much [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► more successful nerds good nerd now i'm [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► not i do it wrong [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► I mean I don't do it I don't do the [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► nerdy stuff in the right nerdy way I'm [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► late to a lot of it and i've done as a [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► as an observer of the harry potter [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► community I i I'm living the unthinkable [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► court which is what you think about Liz [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► I have not read the words in a hole [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► harry potter book ever [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► what's really good I have I love the [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► movies and i love the audio books but I [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► did not read any of the books when they [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► were out when i got into it because my [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► daughter and I said my daughter hey [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► let's try this harry potter thing she [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► was really scared at first came back a [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► few months later she ate it with a spoon [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► and like this past summer we watched [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► harry potter movie every day so I didn't [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► all whatever seven or eight of them [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► multiple I've seen the third one [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► many many times I've seen this the final [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► one many many times since I've seen all [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► of them except a couple at least four [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► times probably seen no I have never seen [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► a harry potter movie delightful but I [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► did read all the books one time [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► what because I was locked in the brig of [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► a transatlantic ship and that was all [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► that was there big this the captain had [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► a secret work you are doing the captain [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► a pro I i would say pretty inflexible a [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► idea of what constituted a mutiny and so [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► I ended up in the brig and there were [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► Harry Potter books in there and I was [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► like well I'm here for my head [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► for the first time in months I'm on the [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► side of the listener right now [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► what the fuck you talking about up i [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► love the idea of you being in a brig [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► three books about wizard haha i was it I [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► was it effectively in a break [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► I was just you know you haven't we [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► haven't a timeout I was having a timeout [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► and there was nothing to do except for [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► that inexplicably all the Harry Potter [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► books were in this place [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► they're really long there were well the [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► other long but they are quick read how [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► they did that there i think they're very [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► well I mean I've read a lot of the first [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► one and we listened to the audiobook [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► usually from number 20 [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► pretty much every day we pick a section [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► you know chapter six killed a ride [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► Lockhart after seven my blogs and yes [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► but we-we've I've heard I've heard them [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► and and I've read some of the books and [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► they are a real page-turner I get why [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► they were a phenomena you have to mark [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► the things that what i will say is that [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► the books are I think a good deal darker [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► than the movies by and large I you know [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► but I but there's still like kids books [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► or but the kids should have a dark stuff [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► it's like my Frank I english said i was [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► i was like talking about how I felt [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► really bad that I've been as far as i [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► know i've been pretty good about not [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► horribly scoring my kid with media she [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► seen a lot of shit you shouldn't see [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► she's seen tons of pg-13 movies all [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► kinds definitely for things that I've [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► ever really scared her [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► yeah and one of them for a while was the [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► Daleks in Doctor Who my friend guys from [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► Canada is like that there is a rich [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► tradition like every little kid every [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► adult in England is still scared of [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► dollars because they were scared them [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► when they're little [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► don't feel bad alright think about the [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► brothers grimm think about what we mean [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► literally tore something we've always [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► given kids the grossest and scariest [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► stories but you know I think about it [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► having a child the first time she first [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► time my daughter asked me about death [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► was not very long after she started [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► talking I mean she said she's an early [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► and lively talker right yeah [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► early and lively talker but but after [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► she started properly talking and asking [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► questions [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► it was very early on like you know where [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► do you go when you die what is death [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► why what are these you know she she she [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► she's very interested in graveyards and [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► when you think about it driving around [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► it's like well yeah it's very [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► interesting what the fuck is that all [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► you have to do is look out the window [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► and say like well this area of town is [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► very different from everywhere else or [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► just sex is the famous one of like you [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► wonder what it's like and speculate [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► about all the different levels of how [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► whatever that thing is works but I think [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► death the death and burial process can't [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► be too far behind [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► there's a lot of levels to go on [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► equipment so there's a body in the [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► ground how did the body get in the [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► ground like it's just sitting there will [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► note in a box a box yes a really [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► expensive box by the grass on hang on [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► wait a minute [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► well no you get to see him right before [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► they die they have this little love to [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► put in a box with Dutch doors and you [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► get to look at the morning lots of [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► makeup and then they put them in the [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► ground right shoulder levels or you run [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► the box into the fireplace and then burn [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► them up and turns them into ash in there [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► any other this bucket here this one here [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► this one on the mantle here is this girl [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► is I mean at least in my experience a my [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► daughter doesn't have any she is not [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► curious about any aspect of sex that all [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► seems to make perfect sense [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► daddy put a baby inside a mommy next but [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► the question of like where is your daddy [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► well my daddy is dead how did your daddy [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► get dead [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► well everybody gets dead eventually [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► well everybody gets dead eventually [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► ok.how and and that is like I mean what [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► do we have to talk about really as human [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► beings [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► other than that it's still fascinating [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► absolutely i still wonder where my daddy [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► goes when he's it gets dead and how you [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► get dead and end with every passing day [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► I am more and more interested and also [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► less and less interested in how you get [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► dead and so she and and the idea that [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► because I think my instinct when she [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► first asked like like I did the [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► Terminator scroll on my heads up display [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► like that answer think of an answer what [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► are you going to say what you say and [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► then it was immediately clear to me like [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► what do you mean what do you say there's [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► no you're not faking her out [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► you're not trying to camouflage [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► something from her because you know [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► about as much about it as she does [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► that's right where did you go when you [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► get dead you look what I mean like what [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► real consolation can you give that isn't [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► a blatant line [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► yeah right and what is and why would why [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► would I even introduced the idea that [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► there was some consolation for it like I [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► mean I mean not to be obvious but don't [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► you don't want her to become overly [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► morose or scared right but i mean i [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► don't i don't know i think the word the [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► way that you get overly morose scared is [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► that you that you asked a simple [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► question which is how to where you go [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► when you get dead and then you watch [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► everybody around you freaked out and [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► something I work so hard at that and I I [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► get it right maybe ten percent of the [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► time is trying to like go wait a minute [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► stop don't editorialize dont preach and [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► don't feel like you have to try and [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► teach a lesson you can just say what it [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► is that smell is pot and our neighbors [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► are smoking it [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► yeah and that's what that is it's it's [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► just like it's like alcohol you know [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► it's a drug and when you smell that [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► that's what that is that spot any other [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► questions around probably 25 years ago I [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► if I were the same age you know and so [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► forth [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► I would've done it really differently I [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► would have a lot more like admonishments [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► and like you know really open up by [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► saying oh well they're breaking the law [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► or they're hurting their bodies or [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► something like that yeah we had one the [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► other day she ran away in a store and it [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► was a situation where she was standing [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► right next to me and i was looking at a [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► thing on a shelf [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► and then I looked down and she was gone [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► oh god it was like whoa this is the [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► first time this has happened and I when [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► I found her mom was also in the store [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► and that she hadn't gone to her mom she [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► was completely AWOL officially out of [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► sight right so I run to the front first [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► thing that happens man is nothing like [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► it [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► yeah I was no good I ran to the front [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► door of the store and stood facing into [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► the store from the front door [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► basically in like Robocop mode full-on [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► code Adam mood [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► yeah and a her mom you know made the [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► rounds and found her in the shoe [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► department wearing a pair of giant furry [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► pink fuzzy slippers with another with [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► like three more pairs of shoes in her [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► arms [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► not-not-not trying to buy them or bring [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► them to show it come to us but just like [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► it just basically having like a shoe [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► just the earliest stages of like a shoe [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► fetish and in talking to her about it I [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► was like you can't go you can't do that [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► you can never leave daddy without saying [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► where you're going you can't just run [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► away and I remember being given the same [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► talk in the seventies and then and at [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► the time people struggling to explain [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► why because they're bad men and there [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► are you know and and then the concept of [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► bad men got introduced into my head and [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► I was like well what happens with bad [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► men [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► I was like well Batman sometimes [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► sometimes drive Volkswagens with a [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► missing passenger seat and ask you for [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► help putting their canoe on the roof [TS]