Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick on the wine is [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► month they asked the double clicks to [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► help me say hi to john reading this John [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► what you've been eating two day [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► hello hey John beep-boop-beep-boop-beep [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► art would you like to begin a [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► conversation online [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► how're my pops and buzzes hows about [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► buzzing buzzing crackle and pop listen [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► pop crackle crackle did you change [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► crackle bows bows mmm on athletics it [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► turned it turned out that my that's [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► right those are on it you know I used to [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► have a college teacher that never tell [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► you this now he he pronounced that word [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► on amanha pay ya is that's a little kid [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► because he had a ligature well he felt [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► that he felt the Greek letter that is a [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► and E squished together or I think it's [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► is a date its Zoe and then finally it's [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► a diphthong [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► but yeah he he wanted it pronounced he [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► felt that that was the correct [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► pronunciation on a mono pay and he and [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► he used that word all the time in the [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► class i don't remember what the class [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► was but now I cannot say it any other [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► way it is it is not the artist anal of [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► of 1990 onomatopoeia a I don't want to [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► take you off your tech talk buzz crackle [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► but but but i do idea want to talk about [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► for announcing something or doing [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► something a certain way correctly even [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► when it sounds wrong I like the single [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► back to that ok so what turns out turn [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► all turns out all that buzzing and [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► crackling was just in my voice only need [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► to clear throat a little that was just I [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► had a little bit of I had a little bit [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► of AI don't 88 big bite [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah roll off on the ground [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► switch yeah exactly [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► that was the problem I i was i was what [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► I was doing was I was dumb I was 8 bit i [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► was told you were doing eight bit like a [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► new window will pop someone like the [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► beginning of a lot of psyche songs we [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► get the deliberate fucking in of the [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► guitar cable Kingsley's where it's gone [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► and i'm thrilled array well start [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► getting those tips from people [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► it was an anomaly i think it was a [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► gravity anomaly [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► if you uh if you know anything about [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► gravity anomalies you know that they can [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► be used to communicate across time by [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► Matthew McConaughey is that right okay [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► the flat circle [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► mhm i was a flat circle this is exactly [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► where he was a scientist is that correct [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► I'm so mad I'm so mad I you know I was [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► barely aware of interstellar as it was [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► happening as it was when it was coming [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► out and I remember there being some talk [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► I think Neil deGrasse Tyson had some [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► just a long string of tweets about the [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► science and it but I was just ignoring [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► it all [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► yeah and then I was in a hotel room and [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and it was on the TV and i watched it [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► and I was just I was just fist clenching [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► Lee mad the entire time [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► you know i'm not i'm not be and probably [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► the fifth-best physicist that you know [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► we're here [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► I mean you know your take right well we [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► might be the only physicist I now so I'm [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► not in a position to say there are all I [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► think there are a lot of people that you [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► and I know who it turns out our [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► physicists closet with is business [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► yeah that we just don't know like i [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► would i would say grant Balfour is [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► probably pretty good physicist yeah you [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► probably just John syracuse said grant [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► Balfour we've got a physicist friends [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► for sure i would say that they would say [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that they probably weren't physicists [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► and technical the physicist that's right [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► and i'm going to probably agree with [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► them and i'm not saying about you know [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► what I'm not the fifth-best I'm in the [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► top five business right but you because [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► I'm gravity anomaly that changes a lot [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► that's right gravity anomalies can often [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► take one that could take a group of [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► physicists and andrey sort them and then [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► do it again right it's called lensing [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► lensing and that's just part of the [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► parallax effect is that gets well it's [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► closed it's closed you're on you're on [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► to something to doppelganger effect [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► that's what it sounds like the bridge [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► sirens going by me and me [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► dinner that's it that's a that's a whole [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► different category the doppelganger [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► effect huh [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► and it's actually pronounced do to gain [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► triple-triple Gungor there for longer [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► than even nerd in a team movie devil [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► gauger now there's a little guitar thing [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► that happens when he comes in [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► ok now its doppelganger but I don't want [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► to off music Paulette expects [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► yeah you want to actually do want to [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► talk about physics but you should say [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► that because I whatever that was over [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► pronouncing i'm gonna skip that and now [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► i'm going to willing suspension of [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► disbelief which I wrote down because [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► isn't it interesting it's super [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► interesting to me like what I will [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► willfully suspend my discipline [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► disbelief about like I got the thing is [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► here's my thesis and I'm not a physicist [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► like you but I can as I sit here today I [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► can't tell you what it is about a film [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► or TV show or novel that makes me go [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► sure right and otherwise you know em [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► right it's really hard to say [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► all i know is i know that John Woo [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► movies are not realistic but i'm totally [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► I know a great movies are not realistic [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► but i'm totally in [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► how do you feel about it when people are [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► are performing karate while standing on [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► top of bamboo shoots totally talk just [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► briefly once before I don't have a [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► problem with it on because I think [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► that's part of the the universe the [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► Cinematic Universe you know it's just [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► you know the biggest problem if I had to [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► say one big thing and I don't have any [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► specific examples this in mind I know [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► this happens a lot and a lot of movies [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► in particular the first act set up is a [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► lot of world-building the others the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► first act as a lot of establishing the [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► ironclad rules that will lead to much of [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► the drama that unfolds over the next two [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► hours in 30 minutes [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► I really like the way you're saying this [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► thank you and then stuff happens in the [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► second act rite stuff happens [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► virtually every rule ironclad rule that [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► was established in the first third kind [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► of gets thrown out the window without [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► explanation and that's frustrating and I [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► feel cheated and I feel duped [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► well in this case in this in this movie [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► the DRL ever Oh interstellar right in [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► this interstellar movie the first act is [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► the problematic act because the first [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► act is both boring [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► well it's boring and implausible but [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► also dumb poorly thought out and it sets [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► up the plot for the rest of the film [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► like this the the stuff happens part of [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► the movie where the spaceships are going [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► and people are spinning around in space [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► is very quiet [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► mhm and and keira knightley or whoever [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► the the female lead is not keira [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► knightley it's a it's a some that's an [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► unactivated actually actually an actress [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► that I have danced with haha can't [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► remember her name had a wedding if I was [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► at a wedding she was there at three and [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► i thought to myself I'm going to ask her [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► to dance and then it was more of sorts [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► of more of a group dance you know what I [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► mean like it was sort of like government [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► asked her to having a lot of Martin [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► causal gonna they're gonna want to start [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► out with that with a friendly group [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► dance yeah so it was like five of us [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► kind of group dancing and it turned out [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► he just got back from best stone and [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► you're going to really earn it [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► that's right yeah you don't just grab [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► somebody and kiss them in Times Square [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► anymore you can have a group dance there [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► was a group dancing with those and that [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► i was actually that was the moment that [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► I realized that even famous actors are [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► first desbiens em right right this was [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► that this was kind of a this was a [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► moment for me because you have us give [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► us a sense of famous actors that they [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► are very move their only stars movie [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► stars they're actually they're in a [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► different category but of course there [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► are not they started out as lesbians as [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► high school thespians yeah and then they [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► became college lesbians and then they [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► became a movie stars but they are still [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► in their heart says be anak and so we we [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► were doing this this this group dance [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► and there was so much does be anak hands [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► and face and body work [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► that by the way in real time people were [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► out there jazz hand around it was really [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► happening and there was just a lot of [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► like a everybody's looking at us and I [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► was already too old and grouchy to to [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► really enjoy it i was enjoying it more [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► from a standpoint of like I'm watching [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► this but I walked away feeling like [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► outright I bet you I bet you even [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► Harrison Ford is like this right i mean [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► when you get them like it when you get a [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► better wedding you think so is by like [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► wow I have never happened [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► I don't know where is it is it i'm [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► trying to get this right so there's a [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► drama to it there's definitely an [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► element of performance there dancing [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► like people are watching [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► yeah you remember you remember being in [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► high school huh yeah and your vaguely [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► you remember the people that were in [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► theater and how they were there was a [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► little bit in theater but I definitely [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► know what you mean [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► yeah and and that that that thing that [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► thing and so yea even back then a lot of [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► dancing in a big circle and then kind of [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► suggesting a gesture that everybody [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► could do together [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► yep it's it's sort of like a goth conga [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► line yeah yeah well yeah well yeah I [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► mean anyway so suffice to say that I [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► know this act or dress and I don't [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► remember her name because i have a very [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► hard time which is probably on the [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► community show [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► nope nope no I think she's a more famous [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► actor than that [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► wow she was into movies I you know what [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► it'll get a little it'll come to you in [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► any case she was there [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► matthew mcconaughey was there neither [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► one of them did I for a moment believe [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► was a scientist but that didn't matter [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► during the space part because who knows [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► who they're going to put in space right [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► yeah you know what I mean like it 50 [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► years from now who knows who the [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► astronauts are going to be like I didn't [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► buy that ethan hawke could get into the [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► spaceship with his bad eyes [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► in the other speaking but you can I get [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► what you're saying no I mean things can [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► be kind of it used to be you had to be [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► an engineer and a pilot and you have to [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► be at NASA you know something that could [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► be apt developers yeah that's right [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► that's exactly right it could be elon [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► musk with the with the leather but a [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► biplane pilots helmet on the front of [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► the spaceship that he designed to [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► actually look like his own face spur you [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► know shooting up into space the biggest [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► penis of all [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► yeah so I that part I didn't have a [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► problem with but the part of the part [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► that it was establishing like the that [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► but it does feel free to spoil it for me [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► know in Hathaway and half away you dance [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► with Anne Hathaway in a group a small [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► group five people dancing around at the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► time I was like you know I was [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► entertaining the idea that maybe our [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► eyes would lock across a crowded dance [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► floor [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► mhm but looking back at photograph of [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► myself at the time i was missing a tooth [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► and I did have like hair down to the [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► middle of my back and just a difference [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► with that video series on the YouTube of [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► the 13 songs with John yells yet some [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► real long hair [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► yeah really long hair it got even longer [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► and i think at this wedding it was as [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► long as it was going to get and so I can [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► only imagine i mean i'm talking about [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► and hathaways artistic lesbionic dancing [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► i can only imagine what she was seeing [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► looking back across the circle maybe [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► that's why the group dance right [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► safety in numbers little bit of that [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► little bit of like huh [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► this is interesting how did this guy get [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► in here stay away from the biker um [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► anyway I don't blame her [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► and I've seen her in some movies where I [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► thought she was great and she was [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► actually a well no she wasn't very good [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► in this movie but that's not the point [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► the point is science as a [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► as a narrative motivator right if you [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► see if you go to a movie and you're like [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► science is going to motivate this movie [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► there is going to be somebody's going to [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► use science to tell a story it's going [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► to turn on science and I and a sense of [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► sense watching the film i have looked it [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► up and I've read all the talk about like [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► all the science is really good in this [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► movie they made sure that the science [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► had any like call people in yeah yeah [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► consultants and people's this there yeah [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► that was that and so the science like [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► the black hole that appears in the movie [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► looks like a black hole is going to look [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► if you ever seen a black holes [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► apparently right and so I don't object [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► to that [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► ok but the but the part where the dad [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► out of love for his daughter goes into [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► the black hole to communicate with her [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► by knocking books off of the shelf in [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► her bedroom in the past was not decide [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► what happened [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► not a thing that arm i don't think that [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► you i don't i'm not complaining about [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► the science not going to work out a [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► system where she know what to watch out [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► for falling books this is the thing yeah [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► she you know the movie starts she's in [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► her bedroom books are falling off the [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► shelves moon [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► I wonder if that's gonna play into the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► family taking more more poltergeist that [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► right i mean sure that anyone would [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► unless your father was a science farmer [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► let's see what this gentleman farmer who [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► used to be a scientist is that what it [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► is I'm saying jet pilot retired jet [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► pilot science farmer and he says books [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► for follow-up there's no such thing as [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► ghosts does this is like the first hour [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► of the movie where you're like wasn't [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► supposed to be some space in this movie [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► no no we're talking about the books [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► falling off the shelves and some other [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► stuff none of it how IC IC so the books [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► falling off the shelf that he's trying [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► to explain away or actually later on [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► turns out caused by him all within this [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► space forming future [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► manipulating the past through a multiple [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► universes scenarios for the [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► controversial ending John there's no [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► more controversial ending after this [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► ending I i think if there was if there [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► were people that had that we're creating [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► a controversy about this film about some [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► element in it i dismissed them with a [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► with a with a Scott because the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► controversy about this film is that it [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► is a garbage barge [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► hi i know is divisive it's a good film [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► is a garbage barge starring the ultimate [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► like overt and tanned leather captain of [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► garbage barge Matthew McConaughey and he [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► recruited this poor keira knightley [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► person I and Hathaway and have the way [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► to a she play someone called brand [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► yes she does some very she does a very [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► bad acting on it and there are some [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► other there some other actors in it that [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► do fine fine acting jobs but the entire [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► thing is a garbage barge and it's a 10 [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► and I and I cannot help but compare it [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► to them to the more recent film which [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► used science to create a robot raccoon [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► that had a smart mouth for and a been a [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► big machine gun [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► yeah shouldn't work and think everything [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► in that movie I believed [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► yep one hundred percent and loved and [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► this garbage barge of a movie which was [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► supposed to be smart and which multiple [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► multiple film reviewers praised for its [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► smartness people were for this is why a [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► divisive because i haven't seen the film [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► but I heard a lot of people were just [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► coming out of the theater freaking out [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► and talking about her life changed and [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► other people were like to be watched the [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► same movie [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► mm-hmm you know I learned this i'll [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► probably get this wrong i'm doing this [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► from memory but I learned a couple [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► distinctions in the last few years that [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► I think are interesting and you probably [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► know these but won't admit it you know [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► like in John Rizzo forget science [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► fiction and fantasy right now are you [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► can I know I know I know the difference [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► between modes okay okay that's a start [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► and Lord of the Rings is fantasy fantasy [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► well no here's the thing but in fantasy [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► don't you have like there's like high [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► fantasy and like low fantasy high [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► fantasy is where it really it's like a [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► whole different [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► world like a different universe or [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► something like that and forgive me [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► everybody in the world is going to get [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► mad at this but it is the distinction [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► being measured high fantasy well but [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► then also i dunno there's hard science [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► fiction [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► oh okay right so there's a kind of [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► science fiction where every conceivable [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► detail is sweated to be as accurate as [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► possible but also even in a speculative [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► fiction universe to really cater the [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► sort of person who like you know ask the [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► question of william shatner at the [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► convention like that you know it isn't a [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► distinction because there's some kind of [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► science fiction where you got a fucking [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► robot raccoon and nobody minds right and [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► this is the end this is the thing I love [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► hard science fiction and generally I [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► find that it works best when it is like [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► Blade Runner a plausible world where [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► where you eat you have you've posited [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► the future based on like one or two one [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► or two minor changes and it is produced [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► this future world righty meaner or it [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► like you take a lot of elements that we [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► all sort of except and know to be true [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► and you introduce one fantastical [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► science development [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► okay and I can handle I can handle those [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► even the ones that are like hard science [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► except fantasy right like the like ones [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► where time travel is possible or [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► something like that where where they [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► don't they don't take or what was the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► one where the guy was coming back into [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► the yet they were people in the future [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► we're sending people back in the past to [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► get killed [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► oh yeah the night inception but rooper [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► looper right i mean at as if you sit and [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► worry about time travel like don't talk [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► about time traveling and they covered it [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► right in the film and it's hilarious [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► that moment right here just like okay [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► except that and then you then you go [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► along with the plot right and what what [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► this movie did was that it tried to get [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► the hard science right except they're [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► there nobody had done any thinking about [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► a about like the human element right [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► they had they had they gone toward the [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► hard science and they had forgotten [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► about people John they forgot about [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► people they forgot to make the human [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► motivation plausible-like although the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► whole of the whole emotional core of [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► this film depends on the idea that a [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► daughter of a father who is a who is a [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► space farmer a Kappa science farmer gets [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► an opportunity to go into space [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► uh-huh and his ten-year-old daughter [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► says had it don't leave and he says I [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► must go into space [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► I am a time-space farmer this is what [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► science farmers do with science farmers [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► do they go into space right so that's [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► the that is the that is a thing from a [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► from basically every novel every movie [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► that the father says goodbye daughter i [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► am called out to the I'm riding out into [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the West I am blasting off into space [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► and i will i will be back or I will [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► bring you and he's either saying it to [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► his daughter or his wife or you know [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► somebody but in this film the daughter [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► is so betrayed by the fact that her [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► father would blast off into space even [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► though she is herself a science [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► she's a science farmer herself she [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► becomes a science farmer is that right [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► it runs in the family to it's a family [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► science farm right but despite being a [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► science farmer she cannot ever forgive [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► him for this decision to go into space [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► nominally to save humanity and the whole [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► film is it is all of all the drama in it [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► is about the about the about Matthew [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► McConaughey being primarily motivated to [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► get back to earth to his daughter and [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► she still even as an adult devastated [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► obviously never been in love obviously [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► never like falling off her bike [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► the worst thing that ever happened to [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► her and the only thing that ever [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► happened her is that her father left and [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► like she doesn't forgive him for it and [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► he doesn't and he can't say like a man [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► uh a space farmers got to do a space [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► farmers gotta do like there's no it [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► isn't a science phone to keep in touch [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► so he's gotta throw books [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► well this is the thing [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► you know what happens is they get down [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► close to the gravity of the black hole [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► and time moves more slowly for him out [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► here and I like this part this is this [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► is interesting science right this is the [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► part of the movie that I wanted to watch [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► all day which is like an hour on this [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► planet is seven years back home and so [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► he's like women i can't spend you know [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► like they got down on the planet there [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► but an engine flooded or whatever like [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► hurt however come on we gotta start the [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► fucking ship [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► I gotta get back that's another year [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► that just went by Remy room and by the [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► time they get out of the black hole [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► uh everybody on earth is grown-up gosh [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► and it's like that is one of the great [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► that's a great idea right that's a great [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► plot point that's a great thing and also [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► the open the door to a lot of humanity [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► and storytelling for stride rite for [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► fantastic and the end the one you know [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► and and what your mind wants to do is [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► like they do you think can't get their [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► motor started and by the time they do [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► they come back out of the black hole [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► gravity field and earth is 400 years in [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► the future right that's what's [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► yeah that would be an interesting story [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► but instead like they get off the planet [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► and like his daughters grown-up and she [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► spent the last 40 years like sucking her [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► thumb while becoming a genius scientist [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► but sucking her thumb because her dad [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► didn't come back [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► ok and it's like seriously dad's don't [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► come back all the time [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► dad's go out for a pack of cigarettes [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► and don't come back like if every kid in [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► the world whose dad didn't come back [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► suck their thumb and became a genius [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► physicist well we have a better space [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► program but it sounds like the story [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► needs her to feel that way in order for [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► the and again i have not seen a movie [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► but in order for the drama from the [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► McConaughey guy to work rise to be that [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► feeling from this is my objection this [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► the movie needs her to behave in a way [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► that is not not human right and needs [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► him to behave like whatever whatever [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► their bond is like people have those [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► bonds but but anybody anybody with [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► normal human feelings watches that and [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► says you know what my dad I'm 10 years [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► older than 12 years old I love science [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► my dad is a space ship captain he's [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► gonna go and I'm I'm gonna be sad but [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► we're all gonna we're gonna get on with [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► our lives right that's the north that is [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► what up any human would do that isn't [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► like emotionally broken i'm confused I I [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► thought it was the science of three off [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► no I liked the science it was the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► relationships the people part well so so [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► then so so this is so that this is the [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► problem right [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► he is in he has access somehow to up to [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► some sort of crossroads place created by [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► future humans for reasons that are not [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► explained he is in a crossroads where he [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► can go from he can go across multiple [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► universes he can go across time I guess [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► he's in a season and he ends up in this [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► black hole in her room sort of a lot [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► 2001 a Space Odyssey where you can go [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► across time and he is using that [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► incredible power not to kill Hitler not [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► to go back to a time before he was born [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► and give his parents a riddle right that [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► only he can solve not not a not to do [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► anything interesting her except to [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► communicate to his daughter by knocking [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► books off the shelves in the past two [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► contradictory messages one because that [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► because the because the gravity field [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► this so boring the gravity the gravity [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► field and the and all of that is how he [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► and his daughter found the NASA people [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► in the first place so he must have done [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► that he must have signaled to her to go [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► find the space people which is what [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► produced the situation where he flew [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► into space right so he sent that message [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► and then spends a lot of time knocking [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► books off the shelves in a coded order [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► so that she receives the message stay [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► and the message stay is meant to be [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► communicated to him in the past through [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► his daughter all telling him not to go [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► typically turned it but if he didn't go [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► none of the been mad at ya [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► it's like the writing by doing what he [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► actually stay [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► no you didn't stay because that's [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► idiotic if he had stayed then he [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► wouldn't have been naughty right now I [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► know we're gonna have a problem that's [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► the killer problem but they didn't even [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► address that killed Hitler we wouldn't [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► know Hitler is today they didn't address [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► the fact that in an infinite number of [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► other possible multiple multiple verses [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► he did stay right there [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► they didn't address any of that they're [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► using all of that interesting physics [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► and crazy like you know Einstein me in [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► like brain fuckery to tell the dumbest [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► dumb story featuring two dummies that [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► you don't care about in the first place [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► like if you do care about their [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► relationship if you do care about this [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► father and daughter you are a dummy [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► because they are such dummies and all of [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the physics becomes this like that it [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► becomes like all this window dressing on [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► a on a on a story on a pretty pedestrian [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► on a pedestrian and sentimental story [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► numbnuts sentimental story like if you [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► took the science out of that movie and [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► it was just like here's the story here [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► the people that you're going to end up [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► caring about others his father the [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► daughter some other people and like do [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► you care about their lives to care about [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► whether they succeed in their quest for [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► you care if they are reunited you care [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► about any of that [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► and the answer is no you couldn't [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► possibly because I'll and ultimately [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► this is this is I think the key then [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► Hollywood this is the message that [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► Hollywood needs to receive you cannot [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► care about Matthew McConaughey can't you [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► can watch him [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► it can be interested in his call all I [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► know you could be interested in him he [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► can walk across the stage and you can be [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► like uh-huh [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► you think because you can't be trusted [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► no because you cannot care about him [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► think about this [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► look at his face think about his role [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► this is an hour into some hard science [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► fiction think about it is it possible to [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► actually care about Matthew McConaughey [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► could you write a film where Matthew [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► McConaughey was the actor playing any [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► part i challenge you any part and you [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► are watching him and looking into his [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► space in his eyes and you care about [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► what happens yeah the Dallas buyers club [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► did you care about him I didn't finish [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► it right there were people in that movie [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► that you cared about it seemed like a [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► good movie [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► it was a very interesting movie and it [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► was an act early experience where you [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► watch these actors really really act the [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► shit out of what they were doing [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► I thought he was getting out of the [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► first part which i watched I nothing [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► against the the second two parts but he [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► seemed to really inhabit the role [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► yeah i really put him as a scrunchie [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► squirrely drug I he absolutely did and a [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► guy that you enjoyed watching but did [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► not personally care about now and a good [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► role for Matthew McConaughey fantastic [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► role and then at the end what you care [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► about is the tens the hundreds of [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► thousands of people who are suffering [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► from aids that this particular guy his [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► actions I hit up me helping them right [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► you cared about the people that starts [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► out as barfly turns in gandhi turns into [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► Gandhi right you can't you cared about [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► the people but he you did not care about [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► and i cannot i cannot think of a single [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► and you know what my objection to [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► Matthew McConaughey started in a [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► science-fiction role which was to [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► remember you know I dazed and confused [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► no messy Matthew McConaughey was great [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► and amazing views and in fact that maybe [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► the one example where I actually kinda [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► did [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► now I didn't care about but I sure liked [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► him now what movie [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► matthew mcconaughey and I could have [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► gone through life perfectly fine with [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► each other right he's on one path I'm on [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► another he's playing he's playing most [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► of the roles that he plays and I am [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► enjoying watching him but not caring [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► about him but in that god damned Jodie [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► Foster movie where she built a space [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► machine based on a carl sagan is desert [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► schools she doesn't meet your father she [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► goes and meets well-spaced she made [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► meets the aliens who have masqueraded as [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► her father because they because she [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► wouldn't be able to groc spoiler alert [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► she would be able to groc what they look [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► I'll IC or shoot or or not they're not [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► that just looks but [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► their whole form I can I get it so they [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► could appear to her [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► they could have appeared to her as a [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► swarm of bees Coke machine they appeared [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► as a talking Coke machine belt buckle [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► but instead they chose to appear to her [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► as her as her father which is a fucked [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► up thing for an alien consciousness to [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► do typically that's even allowed in the [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► alien ethics if they know enough to [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► impersonate somebody's dad they [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► shouldn't be allowed to do it right and [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► if I don't panic but I I just gotta draw [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► a line in the space [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► exactly if I were a Jodie Foster space [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► scientists and I got out into into like [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► a space world and my dead father arrived [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► and started talking to me in like I [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► would feel it talking to me in his like [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► a it is fatherly way and it's definitely [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► I would feel very manipulated by these [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► UFOs I would instance i would instantly [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► not trust them I what I wouldn't want to [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► talk to somebody else [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► yeah right like okay alright I've seen [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► what you can do it's a nice parlor trick [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► can you appear to me as Richard Nixon [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► now right i could that could have been [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► somebody who is new there and they were [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► abusing the technology and we're not [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► fully aware you don't mean maybe it was [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► maybe there's a new alien on the job but [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► that's the thing i really i do are they [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► contacting so many in sentient races [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► around the around the universe that [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► there that this is something that [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► they've assigned to an intern well what [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► about Clarence the angel and now it's a [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► wonderful life [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► I mean you gotta start somewhere I've [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► never seen it's a wonderful life I'm not [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► seen that I've seen that it's a it's got [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► some multi first time traveling anyway [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► in this movie with Jodie Foster [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► yeah where the where the swarm of bees [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► is appearing to her as her father [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► Matthew McConaughey plays a role uh [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► where he is some kind of spiritual [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► leader [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► yeah this is again a fantasy future [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► world where he is a how would you [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► describe him a young Billy Graham [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► who has a lot of moral authority that [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► charismatic spiritual figure charismatic [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► spiritual figure that's exactly right [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► like a young Billy Graham a young [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► diagram but with a lot of like a deep [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► soul wisdom so that he is again i can [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► imagine that right so yeah butBut I can [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► imagine playing that but such that he is [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► consulted by presidents and heads of [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► state like a young Billy Graham like a [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► young Billy Graham and he like gets him [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► he's on one of these advisory boards [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► he's a central figure he is the voice of [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► he is the voice of faith and religion in [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► this science movie and he is and he so [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► i'm watching this movie and I'm like I [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► like Jodie Foster like carl sagan i like [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► the idea of a science a movie i love the [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► idea how this is gonna be terrible [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► spoilers if you haven't seen this movie [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► i love the idea that you that that space [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► travel is basically time travel and this [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► and that and the whole spaceship design [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► is just that at that we on earth [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► perceive it to be like that she just [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► fell through a hole and came out the [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► other side you couldn't protect you from [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► time for a while [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► yeah she was gone she was gone for a [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► long time in her world and in our world [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► and appeared that the Machine didn't [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► work and nobody believed that she went [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► because it's like the eye like the eye [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► so good that such a nice nice a nice [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► touch a nice device this device although [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► again I feel like a panel of scientists [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► would be able to understand this concept [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► if she explained it to them and then [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► nobody when she got back nobody believed [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► her and she was disgraced so what [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► happens with the look on his characters [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► he learned lesson about love full [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► sentence that's exactly that is probably [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► what happens i don't i was evident it [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► every time he came on the screen i close [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► my eyes and I when mmmnn mnnn because [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► he's so callow so like so unbelievable [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► in the role of somebody that anyone [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► would care about that and to put him as [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► the like heart of the film like the like [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► the emotional part of the movie was such [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► a was such a terrible casting decision [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► that's a lot of weight to carry for any [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► actor but it sounds like you're saying [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► he wasn't up to it see what you want in [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► that role is a chubby guy if somebody's [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► gonna be the emotional heart of a [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► science movie i like that way night [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► Seinfeld's Newman thank you know if you [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► put a guy if you put a guy with a little [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► bit of a chunky guy if in the center of [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► a roll like that [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► now that's the thing you're going to [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► believe that a chunky guy's got heart [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► right you're gonna believe you don't [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► give that a guy like Matthew McConaughey [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► who who who appears to be carved out of [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► mahogany that guy's got no heart seems [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► like you want to do stuff to your [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► panties or maybe get into your bank [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► account [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► yeah you know what he wants to do he [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► wants to make some fish tacos and he [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► wants to go boogie board [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► he's a bad man that's what he wants he [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► does he wants to go he wants to have him [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► Sammy Hagar over they're gonna make some [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► fish tacos he's gonna make his famous [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► fucking salsa and then they're going to [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► go putting her it's pretty high [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► he's not he does not want to be the be [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the emotional heart of the film you [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► don't believe it not for a second LTE [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► you consider a stretch role for him [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► anything where he's so so in that in [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► that TV show where he was playing [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► against the guy from cheers yeah sure [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► that was what he was very convincing in [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► that movie because he was a gacked out [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► like bad cop he was Abby was good at [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► like drug in laconic yeah he was a dumb [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► philosopher and that maybe with a lot of [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► dumb philosophy but it was exactly the [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► kind of dumb philosophy that I gacked [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► out cop would would spew right you [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► should be a consultant on this thing he [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► was not the chubby guy that should have [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► been at the center of both the be [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► science fiction movies that seinfeld [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► away night [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► well you know he's only have to be him [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► but maybe shave his head he might [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► likewise i would even by seth rogen in [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► those roles i think he'll I think just [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► for which were also nothing I don't mean [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► to go on a chubby thing here i think i [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► think one night lost a tremendous amount [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► of weight he had one of those two [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► transformative weight loss experiences [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► do you think that it was a do you think [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► he got a lap belt [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► oh that's what the dot leopard leopard a [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► gossipy thing [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► yeah I could be could be or they give [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► you the time tell me i think is John [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► he'll also had a big go weight loss [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► oh I saw that but easy seems to begin [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► its hard the yo-yo thing is real you [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► know my mom believes that that people [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► who lose a lot of weight [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► uh by any method of exercise and and [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► diet she believes that those people will [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► always tell you what they did at always [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► so that someone who loses a lot of [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► weight sudden now who does not tell you [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► in exhaustive detail the method by which [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► they did it invariably have had some [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► kind of gastric bypass [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► oh you okay not that there's anything [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► wrong with that but there's [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► extraordinary medical surgical means [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► involved actually a commitment that she [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► believes she believes that that anyone [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► who has used a system of like changing [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► their diet and exercise is going to bore [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► the shit out of you about it it's almost [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► like if you had a bunch of people [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► sitting around left with four people [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► sitting around the room for any gender [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► really like anybody and like one person [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► starts talking about their kids another [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► person starts talking about their kids [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► are you talking about and just talk [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► about how their kid used to be adorable [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► and is now I dick mean the second one [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► comes in third one comes in EM there's a [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► pretty good chance if you had a kid [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► well let's be honest they probably [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► turned out to be a dick you're gonna [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► jump into that conversation the only [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► people who don't jump into that [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► conversation or someone who doesn't have [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► a kid god bless them and goes and goes [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► how that's really it sounds like a pain [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► right thing here if you've done [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► something people are proud of what [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► they've done and you know and especially [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► with the things like pregnancy or weight [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► loss or you know AAA or whatever he's [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► there are people who are going to give [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► you they've got their story I try very [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► hard not to talk about my diet and I [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► cannot help [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► oh I cannot help but not talk about it [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► because as soon as somebody like so many [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► things I swore to myself I would never [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► ever do nothing to feel bad about it [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► that's the second part that's the [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► painful part is it doesn't bother me it [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► doesn't really talk about my bowel [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► movements and cassette tapes two years [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► ago when somebody was talking about how [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► they were gluten [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► yeah I was like oh my god you're so [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► boring stop it stop talking and then [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► when I went gluten-free I was like well [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► you know I went gluten-free recently and [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► lot of water supply and I was so proud [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► of myself and I had completely forgotten [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► completely blocked out that i had [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► formerly found at people like that [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► boring so anyway that is that that's [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► that's my mom's theory but my mom has a [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► lot of theories have to take them all [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► the grain of salt [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► yeah but in the aggregate she's right a [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► lot of the time I don't have a dog in [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► this fight [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► thank you think she is did you ever talk [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► about there's one episode of this [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► american life called the seven things [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► you're not supposed to talk about [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► everyone was that one here we talked [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► about that no I think that might've been [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► one of your other programs yeah but I [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► want to find me the it's basically that [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► the notion the show it's kind of a silly [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► idea but the idea is Sarah cainnic I [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► went on to do Dean being being being [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► cereal her mother i believe it's her [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► mother is has this list of seven topics [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► no one should ever talk about [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► oh and they are you get this right [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► you're period what your diet and what [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► you eat your health in general [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► yeah i was just doing some tennis club [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► rules ok here we go keep going lost [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► three tennis balls [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► I don't just toss these out so wait [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► let's go back to get pot we gotta get [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► your period we got a diet number four we [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► have Sleep Number five your dreams [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► oh don't talk about your dreams but [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► don't talk about sleep either huh i'm [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► just getting there [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► I love this one number six I love number [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► 6 root talk what's that how you got [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► oh man we were gonna take 280 but then [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► it turned out there is a we have to take [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► a cut over and go down the 1010 you just [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► took that you just took away eighty [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► percent well when I talk about I know [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► exactly but but you know I think those [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► are the I'm just I'm just saying that if [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► we don't have these things to talk about [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► nothing i agree with this but that [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► sounds like all stuff that like if we [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► didn't have those things to talk about [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► it how your kids eventually become dicks [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► there would be no much to talk about if [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► you don't you know what for me diet and [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► sleep like right about that and sleep [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► when i'm going to say at this point that [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► when someone is introduced into our [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► family you know when somebody like gets [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► to be friends with the with the [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► Roderick's [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► one of the one of the things that they [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► have to sort of a custom themselves to [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► is that any time my mom and i arrived at [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► a place or depart we're going to spend [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► two minutes talking about the route but [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► you know she's like okay I'm taking off [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► and going a little bit right it's where [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► you going and she goes on you haven't [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► done that then it and if we're both in [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► one location and we're going to a [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► separate location we will absolutely [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► take different routes and compare and [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► deaf and we're very interested in who [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► gets to the place where I think it [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► varies i think it varies a great deal [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► especially as people get older and you [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► can compare and contrast your different [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► dietary problems and also just like to [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► say if anybody out there's any producers [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► I i would like to see a cable reality [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► show called getting to be friends with [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► Roderick's haha very it would be a 10 [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► season show at the end maybe you'll be [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► friends now I could be like things that [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► could be a contest though it could be an [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► elimination thing right could be like a [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► hidden-camera you know as he has more [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► and kind of thing at the end of every [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► my mom and I would sit down and be like [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► I kind of like this one and she'd be [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► like mm no be nice if you left now up [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► um I went skiing this past weekend on [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► hill i went scheme for the first time in [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► a long long time [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► uh probably well the first time in many [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► years I went skiing in this yeast in [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► your family [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► this was a thing yep just like a [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► big-time skier right well I was too we [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► were that's right yeah you said that [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► yeah and and it was really it was very [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► it was very weird a melon [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► because it's a thing that I haven't done [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► in a lot in a long time and it probably [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► in the last 20 years I've done three [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► times but it's a thing that I know how [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► to do really well I'll you still have it [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► is like a ride a bike as they say oh [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► yeah because between the ages of 8 and [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► 23 i skied constantly i raced I train [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► mostly in Alaska it but I was i skied in [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► college too but you know in the summer i [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► trained i would late we would we would [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► go for a long run and then we would lay [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► down in the park and our coach would [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► walk around we all be laying on the [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► grass with our eyes closed and our coach [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► would walk around between us really [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► slowly [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► this is on a beautiful sunny summer day [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► and in Alaska and he'd be like you're at [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► the top of the course and you're you're [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► checking your bindings and and then you [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► hear that you hear the buzzer babe [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► Bam Bam and then year then you're out [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► you're on the course and you're making [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► that first turn and you're just carving [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► perfectly visualizations and we would [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► sit and lay in the park while he would [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► he would visualize an entire slalom race [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► really even back then I mean I think [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► this is being a modern invention but [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► that you really get it back then 1980 [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► this is 84 probably well clean golfer [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► student exchange top don't call first do [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► that a lot too big they say like [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► visualizations like ninety percent or [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► something or forty percent or so yeah I [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► think it's a big sports thing and i [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► think i remember at the time being told [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► or feeling like this was really new and [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► really innovative and it was really [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► effective like you would lay there after [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► a long run you'll be like you know [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► feeling your body and the Sun is beating [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► down and you're thinking about this ski [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► race and you're imagining yourself just [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► skiing so well through this course and i [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► absolutely the following year during ski [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► season like at made a real leap [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► inability and had started to and i was i [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► I started winning races [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► I I got a couple of gold medals that's [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► amazing people were starting to talk [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► about me like I was a comer it all ended [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► badly but but it was a it was a it was a [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► big part of my teen life and and it's [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► not something I haven't done in years so [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► I so is it just on athletics it touches [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► on like social stuff right obviously [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► like people it's like a thing people [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► would do for fun I think people would do [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► for fun it's also a very expensive sport [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► so there's this other aspect of it where [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► it ties into it so it's a it's a very [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► class oriented thing like skiing is is [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► like horse it's like horse people right [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► you it's kinda like it is like golf in [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► in that sense right i mean where you've [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► got there's lots of ongoing expenses [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► there's lots of costly equipment you [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► could take lessons forever loon and and [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► like a lot of things that are tied to [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► social class there's the kind of [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► confusing a misattribution of like skill [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► in skiing that skill and skiing is is a [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► sign that you are a superior person kind [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► of you know like skill in golf or or or [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► tennis or horse riding a is a sign that [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► you are especially if you make it as [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► they say look easy right [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► that's a very high-status things it's [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► one thing to take a main classes and [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► everybody know it but people who can [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► cook in golf or ski or boat with [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► apparent ease i think that's super high [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► status [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► yeah it's there's a lot of status [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► involved but also for me like to be up [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► on the ski mountain but it's also a [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► solitary sport but it's a solitary sport [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► where as you're making a run you are [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► conscious of being visible to people [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► there are people standing all around the [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► ski hill watching uski there are people [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► up on the lift watching uski like [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► they're it's it is it's a solitary [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► performance of a kind of ballet if [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► you're skiing well [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► I because when i'm writing the lift or [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► standing on the side of the hill and [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► someone skis by and his skiing well i [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► will stop stop what I'm thinking and [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► watch them and admire them [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► it's a they're there every day and the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► course of of being on a ski mountain [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► there are multiple times where you see [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► somebody and you just admire their [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► skiing and it's a form of love your [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► beauty know i-i-i don't feel that in [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► very many other things as much as I do [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► watching somebody do watching somebody [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► perform a sport that I know what it [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► feels like to do well [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► mhm and as I watch them do it well I [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► don't know them I don't know anything [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► about them but i'm watching them ski [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► well and I think I like this I like [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► watching this and so when you're skiing [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► you're also aware that like and ninety [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► percent of the people around on the ski [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► mountain are not watching you and don't [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► care and don't wouldn't recognize that [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► you were doing it well but there's this [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► small percentage of people on the lift [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► or on on the hill that you know that [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► you're aware of are going to recognize [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► that you are performing at a higher [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► level and they're gonna appreciate it [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► one way that it seems a little bit like [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► skateboarding even before there was [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► snowboarding right i mean in that sense [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► that you you would sit there and you [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► practice you do this thing all day long [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► over and over and over and when you see [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► somebody who's really capable of [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► something you know is extremely [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► difficult kind of can't help but stop to [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► admire them [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► that's right that's right and a lot of [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► things like I mean I millions of people [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► love watching basketball highlights [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► because there are these feats of [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► incredible athleticism that we all [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► recognized as a tremendous right but [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► very few of us can also play basketball [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► that well and imagine watching [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► basketball highlights if you were [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► somebody who was an incredible [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► basketball player i get that that's it [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► that's a great distinction its you can [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► you can appreciate just based on the [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► history of it but you've never actually [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► you know suck a 3-pointer yeah or like [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► jumped up and around the back of you [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► know jumped over somebody's head and and [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► dunk the basketball [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► and so I i was having this incredible [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► experience all weekend when I was like [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► it's this is one of the few things that [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► I am genuinely good at and there are [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► very few of those things right [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► I do not consider myself to be genuinely [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► good at playing guitar I am i'm good at [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► guitar impassable guitar but in a room [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► full of people that are great at guitar [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► you know nobody's gonna be like now [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► let's loss sit and watch Roderick right [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► I'm gonna kind of smile and make a joke [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► and play a joke solo I've heard you say [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► that a lot of a lot of time a lot of [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► places that you'd feel like you didn't [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► even get you always see to things that [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► you never you never really got bothered [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► to try and get good at guitar until [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► you're in your late twenties and even [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► then you're just as good as you need to [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► be to do what you want to do you never [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► saw it as this application to aspire to [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► greater and greater rock [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► yeah something like that yeah and and [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► part of it maybe is that a that skiing [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► is something that I started to do when i [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► was ten or or I'm sorry aight and I [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► didn't start playing guitar when I was [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► eight and I didn't start really i didn't [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► really do much else at eight [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► like I didn't get good at baseball I [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► didn't I wasn't good at Dungeons and [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Dragons I wasn't good at all those [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► things that I wanted to do i I didn't [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► practice drawing i didn't i didn't get [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► the this I didn't develop a skill to [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► this to the degree that it was [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► unconscious but with skiing after not [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► having been in 10 years I get up on a [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► pair you know I go into the pro shop and [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► I'm like look I'm a 46 year old guy but [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► and I haven't been skiing in 10 years [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► but I'm gonna want your best gear and [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► they're like okay and they bring out the [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► they bring out this gear and they put it [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► out there and I'm like yeah no not not [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► this stuff I want that stuff you know [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► when I point up to the thing and they're [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► like okay man and they put me in this [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► stuff and I get up on the hill and I'm [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► as i'm writing the ski lift I'm like you [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► know this is pretty technical gear like [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► i hope that i'm not i hope i didn't [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► overestimate my need for it you know i [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► hope i don't get up there and penske has [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► changed so much and this year's so [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► radical that I'm gonna be just about 10 [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► years since i went last night and that [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► was the first time I'd gone in five [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► years and I went one day and then there [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► was I went one day five years before [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► that I would not be surprised if [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► adequate this really better [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► it's changed a lot but the art of skiing [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► hasn't changed and I got off the lift [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► and I made a couple of turns and I was [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► like all right this is the appropriate [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► gear and I understand how it works and [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► then the rest of the day I was just in [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► this place of a in this place of like [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► kind of training again where every turn [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► i made i was thinking about and I was [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► like that was a good turn and now we're [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► gonna set up the next turn and here we [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► go and then for the cardiovascular [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► standpoint you could do it seems very [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► athletic one so I was after the first [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► couple of runs i was super tired my legs [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► hurt everything about me her and and I [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► recognized a few things that I was 46 [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► and so I could not I could not get air [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► anymore I was not going to get I was not [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► gonna go off any jumps probably ever [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► again and there were you know in any [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► kind of skiing in any ski run where [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► you're really pushing yourself you're [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► going to arrive at a moment where you're [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► like okay I'm at the threshold now right [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► I'm on that I'm on the outside of my [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► ability and I think that's true of [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► anybody no matter how good they are if [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► they're pushing their envelope they get [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► to the edge of it it it seems like every [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► i always keep once when I was a kid very [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► young kid but like you with the way you [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► watching somebody doing the way you [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► described it really sounds like not only [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► is that true that you're always pushing [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► it but that you didn't need to push that [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► in a way you might not expect could come [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► up with like almost any second and that [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► could be something of meeting a certain [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► amount of velocity you didn't expect I [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► certainly imagine we talk about things [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► like even small just jumping around how [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► hard that must be on your joints but [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► then also just anything like one false [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► move and you're just gonna tear some [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► part of your body really really hard [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► right yeah you're going super fast down [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► a place and even if you are very [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► familiar with the terrain which like the [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► resort i grew up on I knew every inch of [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► it but even so every day is different [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► right because its nature and the weather [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► and the snow i mean it's always [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► different so an area that you know [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► really well you can come across it and [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► it's been this the situation has changed [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► completely [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► but as it was happening this past [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► weekend I was on completely unfamiliar [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► terrain and every time I came over arise [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► I had no idea what was on the other side [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► it could be a it could be a mile-long [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► groomed run or it could be a cliff into [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► a waterfall every time you know every [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► time you come over a a horizon and so [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► the other thing I being 46 really [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► pointed out to me was that i needed to i [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► needed to bring my the the edge of my [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► envelope in considerably because the [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► really the last time I skied very much [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► I was still young enough that that that [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► the my boundaries were way way out [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► mhm and I needed to bring those weigh-in [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► and there were a couple of times on the [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► hill where I was standing on the edge of [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► some double black diamond run and [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► looking down and like is this doable yes [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► should i do it [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► no I should not I should not do this [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► because I can do it but I don't need to [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► prove that and I and the risk of of [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► doing this and and making even just a [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► normal error is that i will hurt myself [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► and then then today will be [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► characterized by my injury rather than [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► by the fact that I'm having a really fun [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► yeah and so that was it that was new to [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► me I'd never I'd never stood at the top [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► of a run before and look down and said [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► can I yes should I know and I did that a [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► few times and I was I was pretty proud [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► of that I think that's pretty smart [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► child is as good as you may still be [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► like it's just the stakes are higher [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► oh I'm old I mean I you know and and [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► what was great was feeling like feeling [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► after a couple of runs that i was so [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► tired that maybe I had made a terrible [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► mistake in buying an all-day pass maybe [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► I should go down and take a bath and and [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► then skiing through that pain and [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► loosening up and getting my you know and [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► and finding reserves of strength and by [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► the end you know and then i skied until [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► the last run and was was sad too sad [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► that they didn't have night skiing you [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► know but it was very weird to feel like [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► this was a thing that I then I I know [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► how to do and then I think that is such [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► a big part of my life really and i have [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► chosen not to do it for 20 years for [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► reasons that are all about [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► well it's really expensive and it's kind [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► of paint has to get up there so anyway [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► it's better you know what I I'm gonna go [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► to the cafe this morning and read the [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► newspaper instead and everyday sort of [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► making that decision for 20 years and [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► and leaving this side of me where I [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► actually know how to do something that's [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► really gratifying that's physical and [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► that's in this other realm and I just I [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► just don't [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► it's not a part of my life who and it [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► was it was aight i'm still kind of like [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► grappling with it [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► grappling with how it how it how it is [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► that i could go so that i could go year [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► after year and not even want to do it [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► once or [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► want to do it but never have that desire [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► to do it be enough to like overcome the [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► inertia of of sitting around [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► I mean doesn't question kinda sorta [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► answer itself which was that you just [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► you hadn't having not done so long i [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► guess the question some ways like when [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► do you start to not do something when [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► does it start to count as you're not [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► doing something cuz then once you did [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► you were like oh this is great huh [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► but like it used to be a huge part of [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► your life so it seems strange that you [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► didn't at least kind of check back in [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► with it [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► well yeah I mean it was a butt but it's [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► sort of related to you know it's related [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► to my well it's a relationship to action [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► right if you like when I talk about this [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► a lot i'll be on the freeway and AG i'll [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► drive by me in a truck and he's pulling [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► a trailer and it's got two snowmobiles [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► and to dirt bikes and and and a boat all [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► on the same trailer right and he's [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► pulling this thing up into the siskiyou [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► use and you just know that this guy's [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► and his whole family's in the truck and [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► he's got a cabin up there somewhere and [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► he lives for this [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► he's we work for his he works at his job [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► but he's always thinking about getting [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► up to the lake and you know my dad was [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► like that with his freaking airplane his [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► goddamn fuckin 182 and he just poured [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► money into it and he every time the sun [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► came out he's down at the airport [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► monkeying with his airplane and you know [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► every spare minute he's like let's go [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► let's let's get a hamburger up [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► let's let's get a hamburger up [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► talking now let's fly up to nil chick [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► and and then you're you know and then [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► anything he would we get in the plane [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► and he'd have his sunglasses on [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► he'd have his reading glasses on top of [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► his head because he needed them to where [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► to look at maps and then he had a third [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► pair of glasses on top of that to see [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► long-distance had like three pairs of [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► glasses on at all times when he's in his [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► plan and work when we're puttering along [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► and I'm looking out the window and I'm [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► like you know this is a this is another [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► thing I was raised doing right if that [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► if you put me behind that if you put me [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► in a 182 and said fly me somewhere I [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► could i do it without thinking but it [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► has never it never has interested me to [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► have a habit of jet ski or a lake cabin [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► or an hour a small plane because i have [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► a different kind of relationship to [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► action [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► I don't care about action in a in a in a [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► week in a way we do you do care about [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► action [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► I'm not sure I understand the question [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► I don't think how do you mean I mean [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► what I had to do with the guy with the [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► jet skis [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► I mean the guy with the jet skis is [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► making such a personal investment right [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► right [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► he's such he's so its console costly to [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► have that fun and that's what it always [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► seems like to me like it seems like the [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► kids a cost-benefit analysis I guess [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► oh yeah sure and especially when you [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► take into account the time the time and [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► the and the getting up early and the [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► just the gasoline [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► I think everybody has such interesting [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► differences and what they gravitate [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► towards in terms of which you can very [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► loosely call hobby [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► yeah because there are so many the way I [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► look at it anyway and every edit you [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► just talked about in passing or [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► in-person reflects the many vectors to [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► that because you have things like should [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► this be a largely practical thing or do [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► I kind of like the fact that it's [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► frivolous it for if you like or if it's [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► something something that is you know [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► doesn't have a practical purpose [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► some people like making furniture cuz [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► then [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► they can make beautiful furniture and [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► give it away you know some people like [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► the fact that they're building something [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► on a minecraft server that's just for [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► fun [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► is it something where I really want this [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► way how much it does doing this expose [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► me to other people and how do I feel [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► about that because I really think a big [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► part especially historically men's [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► hobbies is there's the one kind where [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► you hang out with other people and [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► there's the other kind where you kind of [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► have to be left alone [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► I think those knocked her into it I'm [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► and I mean I can go on there's things [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► like I think there is an element I don't [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► know not in the people that I like I [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► hope this isn't always an element but [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► there is the element then of conspicuous [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► consumption like do I want to have three [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► boats or do i want to have in that guys [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► Casey's he's a little over transported [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► in terms of the number of things he has [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► but and then there's just stuff like in [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► my family I think about how much the men [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► love and my uncle my uncle my father me [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► just so many people on and and I don't [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► need to just talk about man but I think [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► that's kind of the direction we're [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► talking about here enjoy the [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► paraphernalia of the hobby which could [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► be stuff like reading magazines it could [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► be things like going to the bike shop to [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► look at wrenches or whatever and then [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► you get into stuff like I guess this is [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► kind of the social thing but shoptalk [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► like getting the chance to go fly out to [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► the guy who fixes your dad's plane and [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► shoot the shit with himself and i don't [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► know i think every one of those is so [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► different and it could be something like [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► could be me read a comic book myself at [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► midnight or it could be you you know [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► arranging the ski trip [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► that's more money than you would [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► normally pay and like what makes [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► somebody find that attractive let alone [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► real relaxing is is so different like [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► the idea of going skiing to me is not [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► appealing nothing it's bad but that's [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► very much not something that I would go [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► out of my way to do because it'll take [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► my doesn't take my boxes has no [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► practical application well you even [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► still just like a little brother was [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► trying to say that all these things men [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► women and children whoever there's [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► something that feels a little part of [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► your personality what the nice thing [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► about a hobby if you want to call it [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► that it's kind of like this spring spray [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► foam insulation you can shoot in your [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► life that fills this important part that [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► needs to be filled in for some people [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► that's the social social part for other [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► people's like I just need to be left [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► alone for [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► hours a week mowing the lawn great [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► chance to listen to podcast and not talk [TS]