Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick online is [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► month they asked kirby krackle to help [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► me say hi to john rogers online i love [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► line project online talk John [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► hello hi John hello Merlin how's it [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► going [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► Oh super good super good today is a [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► momentous day it's thomas jefferson's [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► birthday [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► oh I did not know that I'm gonna write [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► that down mr thomas jefferson some it's [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► also our sesquicentennial episode what [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► which is a great word I wish everybody [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► would learn use we are seriously [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► 150 150 years ago we wow what forth on [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► this proposition [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► yeah I knew my public a new empire wore [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► their heroes on both sides [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► ah my daughter have you watched that the [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► other night is brutal not there are a [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► lot of things daughters are brutal [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► oh my god we should so talk about that [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► so setting star wars the site [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► congratulations on your sesquicentennial [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► episode Thank You Merlin congratulations [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► to you my name is John centennial it's [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► censored honor just to be nominated and [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► share that with thomas jefferson my [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► goodness knows i wasn't present at some [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► point a hundred and fifty years ago 10 [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► years ago exactly on this date [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► Thomas Jefferson became president right [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► yeah and he was responsible for the [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Northwest Passage huh which was an [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► amazing a which was an amazing sort of [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► contemporary it a top-40 band in the [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► seventies that used to play at stewart [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► Anderson's cattle company wasn't too [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► much later they came out with Johnson's [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► wax that's right so anyway there you go [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► little history lesson for our listeners [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► oh my God we're helping so many people [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► already 150 whoever thought you know [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► what is when you when we started this [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► did you think we would get 250 episodes [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► John I don't think we'd get one what did [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you think that there would be people out [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► there who had listened to all hundred [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► and fifty episodes multiple time I think [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► that comes out to about 1500 hours of [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► listening time not including the ones [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► that we have not released so you know [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► what they say 1500 hours is what it [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► takes to become an expert turns out you [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► know you know Paul McCartney was the [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► president for 450 years right [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► yep he was that he was that he was the [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► king of hamburg in atl him the kingship [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► of hamburg and he said Oh II know but [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► i'll be your press [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► in it uh-huh and they took some speed [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► and Susie looks like we've had like a [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► brain hemorrhage [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► Oh Sutcliffe sex with the 44th president [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► the party was present with my favorite [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► cartoon is right take on the number line [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► hmmm imagine the the Paul didn't used to [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► be the most handsome guy in the beatles [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► well you know depends on what you think [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► is handsome yes it's a matter of taste [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► John so Stu Sutcliffe was very handsome [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► in a kind of James Dean anyway which is [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► I think very much what they aspire to us [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► to think they all kind of look like [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► Fonzie a little bit yep cool dudes James [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► D dudes but Paul had that like kewpie [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► doll face that if you look at young Paul [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► if you look at middle Paul he's just [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► he's just so beautiful all that shit you [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► got alopecia you know he's like he's [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► like a sweet hairless dog a sweet little [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► hairless dog but you know I don't think [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► of shoes as being black and I think of [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► Paul as being like he's a Blackford [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► creature [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► oh maybe it's kind of like a rescue dog [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► yeah he is a shaved up but like mushy [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► face dog but i think he would have black [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► fur and and and like you know creamy [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► skin okay i think yeah well let's not [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► work to ping pong I think he looks a [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► little bit like a Chinese dog John looks [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► much more like it lives in northern [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► European kind of duck or maybe he could [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► be an Afghan i think john is an Afghan i [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► think you're right i think he's a sleek [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► a sleek and sort of aloof oh my god John [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► we're gonna be so rich but and then and [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► not dog Beatles and then so so George [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► you're just kind of a sort of a terrier [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► like a oh that's good mmm he's a digger [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► he's a little bit of a digger that's [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► right maybe not a rather but like [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► definitely somebody that's that it goes [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► down a hole right buddy studies what [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► this does is surprisingly not yeah happy [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► as a terrier no quiet he's a quiet [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► thoughtful terrier [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► he's uh he said he's going down the hole [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► but he's not looking for rats or Badgers [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► he's looking for [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► or samsara so he's alarmed he's a llama [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► terrier [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► ok alright i'll buy that and finally [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► Ringo maybe see the thing is we want to [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► make him look different enough so we [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► have to cooperate the nose sorry [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► english bulldog no that's that's good he [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► has to have he has to have a droopy dog [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► but maybe he's a basset hound running [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► out for the large nose ah basset hounds [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► use their noses [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► that's true and then came the great beat [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► i would say i would say Ringo is a [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► basset hound [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► okay we're gonna make so much money from [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► this I feel like we've done a lot of [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► work already today and we're just a few [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► minutes in here I'm learning a lot about [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► the entertainment business and the more [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► that I learned about the more [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► complicated i realize it [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► that is because as I think we discussed [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► a little bit in the past like nobody [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► nobody wakes up then they want to be a [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► publisher everybody wants to be a writer [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► you don't realize you've also got yet [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► editors and publishers you got marketing [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► right i think there's a role for us in [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► doing very little real work with other [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► people's intellectual property [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► hmm you know what connections John [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► you're very well-connected what would [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► the job description be I think we'd be [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► executive producers like Stanley Thank [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► You executive producer i've been i've [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► been wanting that battle for a long time [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► it's a it's a pretty great gig in LA I [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► think it is a kind of an official thing [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► that everything Marvel puts out Stanley [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► is an executive producer [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► executive-produce my burrito yesterday [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► mmm i feel i feel like you I would I [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► want to be one of those executive [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► producers that shows up to every fifth [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► recording session falls asleep on the [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► couch wearing sunglasses it's is what [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► see this is the rick rubin model of [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► producing out already okay you got [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sunglasses on your land down on the [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► couch nobody can tell whether you're [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► asleep or not and then every once in [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► awhile you raise your head up a little [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► bit and you make some kind of like you [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► make a gesture with one hand and say [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► like more cowbell or whatever cutout [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► kind of the mids and then that's not [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► even he doesn't that's not an executive [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► producer he actually gets the producer [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► called the producer tells the engineer [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► to cut the minutes [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► that's right cut the mids you can you [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► know what can you not 4k just not for [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► Kayla [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► you want a little bit of Roloffs on the [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► bandwidth that's right you want to roll [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► the bandwidth i totally agree and I [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► think this is why it's extra super [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► confusing because executive producer see [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► I don't know this for sure but my [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► understanding of it historically at [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► least with movies was that there [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► the director is the head of the creative [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► team will really you know of the making [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► of the film but of the creative aspects [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► of putting a movie together the [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► technical aspects and the producer is [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► more of the logistical and if you like [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► money person right and then the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► executive producer is the brother of the [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► guy who gave the most amount of money to [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the movie [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► okay i think that i think that makes [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► sense i think but executive producer I [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► think can mean you're Steven Spielberg [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► and you put up a bunch of dough all [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► right or i can mean you're Stanley into [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► some good stuff in the early sixties [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► right that's true or your Suge Knight [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► and you have a pistol in your sock [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► yeah you know they put in a wheelchair [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► he's pretty mad about that that should [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► not be there in a wheelchair they they [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► put in there or he is on trial right now [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► I think he's on trial yeah yeah he's [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► very frustrated he had a fit some kind [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► of fit in the courtroom and then they [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► made him sit in a wheelchair [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► it was a it he he portrayed as an [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► involuntary fit [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► um i already had some kind of had some [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► kind of a can with my grandmother call [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► connection [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► yeah you got a connection like a like a [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► little bit of a seizure type situation i [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► don't know i'm not a not a journalist [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► you're not a doctor I'm not a physician [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► as you know but I felt bad for the guy [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► you know you feel now you're you're [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► going on record here on our podcast as [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► feeling bad for shook night I don't know [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► much that he didn't didn't he supposedly [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► killed a rapper was at him [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► uh she was supposedly killed Tupac [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► saying that right Tupac he was in the [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► car with two park [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► oh but also he was the one that dangled [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► a vanilla ice out the window of off a [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► hotel balcony dangled him by his ankles [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► Wow got a lot of upper body strength [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► well he's a big man [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► yeah a huge suit and yeah he does a lot [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► of terrible things is a easy easy [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► generally I think universally understood [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► to be a bad man who created a lot of [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► havoc but also built an empire and then [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► lost it sort of the Al Capone of the [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► Southern California [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► music that's a good way to put it yeah [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► well I mean unless we are compelled to [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► four reasons industry reasons or [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► violence but we would not have him on [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► our people's dogs project [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► no I don't think so and you know over [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► the years I have been he's one of those [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► people where i will i'll right al let's [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► say for instance a humorous tweet i will [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► write a humorous tweet that features a [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► Suge Knight in some component and then [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► right before i post it a little voice [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► little bell rings in the back of my head [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► and little voice goes are you sure you [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► want to get on the wrong side of Suge [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► Knight and then I always post it [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► uh-huh because I say silence Bell you do [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► not you I'm not afraid of some person [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► who is a long way away from me who [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► doesn't care about me but there is that [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► little moment where I'm like he's [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► exactly the type of guy that would get [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► mad about it sweet and then drive all [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► night and come you know burn down my [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► house or something [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► I know I well I am but this tells you [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► how times are changin four years I had a [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► lot of really good material on [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► Scientology oh I wouldn't release [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► because I I know with all those guys [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► roll you were afraid that they were [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► going to meeting you and shit movie you [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► know I I like a lot of popular culture [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► as it was being broadcast i followed [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► along on Twitter as everyone talked [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► about it but I did not see it [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► well if any of a lot of spare time right [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► now i would suggest reading the book the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► book is very very good and it just shows [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► you like how scary these guys are [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► Hodgman went through a phase where he [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► was very interested in Scientology and [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► acquired all these secrets videotapes [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► yeah they're amazing and and then he [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► made us all sit down one a couple of [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► nights i was going to say one night but [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► actually it was more than one night we [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► all sat down at his house in Maine and [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► watch Scientology videos into the middle [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► of the night and their long they're very [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► long there are none that are not long i [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► could never quite be SH I for myself I [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► was never quite certain that if this [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► wasn't an elaborate hoax it's those [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► things were actually real am I couldn't [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► quite ever like small out [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► I I got ahold of one uh I don't know [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► maybe 10 years ago that was going around [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► and it's one that i think it's it's the [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► kind of thing that featured in the movie [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► it's an event a very very large event [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► that i will describe as a combination of [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► the oscar awards and triumph of the will [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► uh haha because there's already quite a [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► lot of crossover between those events [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► but instead of neil patrick harris is [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► that creepy little guy what's-his-name [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► David Miscavige and miss miscarriage Oh [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► think burn bright blue you're gonna be [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► scrubbing toilets in the trailer soon [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► but you're not so now tell me you talked [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► about this being ten years ago is this [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► some kind of trick search to church of [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► the SubGenius thing where where people [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► were trading these tapes around and oh [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► dear I you know I got to be honest with [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► you yes kind of [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► because you know it's kind of been [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► internet thing for a while to to be [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► interested in what's up with Scientology [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► and critical of it and a what's weird [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► about it though is that even just [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► reading about it and even just watching [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► these videos you have to get this kind [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► of second-order cult feeling like I [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► found myself getting a little obsessed [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► with it even when I just read about it [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► for a little while [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► there's so much jargon I've spent an [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► hour and a half just reading glossary of [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► Scientology terms i don't mean to [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► interrupt with with a with like some [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► kind of this breaking news John I don't [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► want to interrupt like it like a German [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► fairy tale here now please [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► but there was a fly that was pestering [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► me mmm and while you were just talking [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► I got up with my i took my shoe off and [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► I was chasing the fly around the room [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► not chasing I was patiently stalking the [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► fly and fly landed in a in a place where [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► he thought he was safe [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► uh-huh and i dispatched the fly [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► I did not kill seven with one blow I [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► killed one with one blow but I feel [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► pretty good about it and that and and I [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► and you have my full attention i was [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► listening to the to the Scientology [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► thing but I also secondly you have the [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► ability to hear complex information on [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► study tech from me [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► even as you are going into action [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► literally taking care of a problem in [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► real time [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► that's right this is exactly what the [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► people Seattle need John i was i was [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► performing the roles both of Secretary [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► of State and seal team six [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► simultaneously oh my god there's another [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► flying here I thought I don't know all [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► i'm so mad right now I pull you know [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► what I heard I heard you shouldn't kill [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► it be because the smell of a dead bee [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► attracts bees have you ever heard that [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► have you ever driven across America in a [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► van in the summertime [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► oh well what happens is some parts of [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► America you will you'll kill a lot of [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► bugs [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► oh yeah like the love bugs in Florida I [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► kind of thing well and like in the [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► Midwest they're just sometimes when [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► you're just all of a sudden you are [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► going through a terrain of very large [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► bugs and you are killing these bugs with [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► the with the front of your van until it [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► is truly an end crustacean uh-huh of [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► dead bugs and then you'll you'll stop [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► and go into a restaurant or something [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► and when you come out your van is still [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► covered with gross dead bugs but then [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► another layer of bees God which for [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► whatever reason a reason right [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► I've never researched I don't understand [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► but the bees seem like carnivorous or [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► something the bees are swarming the dead [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► bugs maybe they may be dead bugs make a [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► flower smell em I'm but there must be [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► something that like sent wise attracts [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► them they will have to go check it out [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► or maybe they're wasps and not bees [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► maybe that's wasp playing Yellow Jacket [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► kind of here like eating but the the [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► dead bugs but in any case like come out [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► but it's very hot day I'm trying to come [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► try to paint a picture of here for you [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► very hot day somewhere in the Midwest [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► it's 95 degrees you and the band have [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► just had a couple of chicken fried [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► steaks and milkshakes and now you're [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► getting back in the band you got to get [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► to iowa city for the big show and you [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► come out and the your the front of your [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► the front of your band looks like a [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► looks like a panko encrusted check [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► can breasts covered with bees [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► that's so gross it's terrible comment if [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► you don't if you're not careful getting [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► into the car right you then the bees [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► will get in the car and then you're [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► driving across the country with like [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► well you whatever Yellowjackets not [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► that's not good you don't want that [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► No so yes I know all about that and I [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► don't like it even count the love bugs [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► you know what I said the Giants they're [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► like giant the flying cockroaches [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► no now now where i lived in West Central [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► Florida Suncoast i want to say maybe in [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► springtime there's a look this up but [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► there's some kind of species of insects [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► that are maybe about the size of a fly [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► and there they go into a meeting and [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► their mating is they have intercourse [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► and and fly usually over a road and your [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► car is just covered with splattered [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► intercourse coitus bugs [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► what a way to go though right am i right [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► they said I'm going to tell me up here [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► they get you get special screen to put [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► over your grill [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah I mean you know there's I used [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► to wonder is there anywhere in America [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► that you can live that you don't have to [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► have things like bugs or tornadoes [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► earthquakes and I don't think there's [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► anywhere you would know you travel a lot [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► more than I have [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► are there places you can go there are [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► free of annoyance well so Alaska has no [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► snakes and it has very few like [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► creepy-crawly poisonous bugs but it has [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► mosquitoes in a you know it prolific 'it [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► mosquitoes any in the winter as well [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► no no it but in the winter it has cold [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► Seattle has a nice mix of spiders [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► spiders rate we have fucking spiders [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► that's right so spicy apple has very few [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► venomous things very few like the [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► cockroaches that are here very small [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► there's no like just in our eps just a [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► lot of A&R reps and then massive massive [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► spiders all through the fall of summer [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► and fall you know California that goes [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► without saying [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► has every kind of pestilence [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► I think Florida my twin if you take [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► everything that Florida's got they got [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► they got all kinds of snakes they got [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► brown recluse spiders oh there are many [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► varieties of cockroaches they have kind [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► of have those annoying New York [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► cockroaches but mostly they have a [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► week's call palmetto bugs or water bugs [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► was once the ones that are like you know [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► excited baby's fist ya wanna hear you [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► could hear water book you can we don't [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► have money we don't have roaches we have [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► water bugs i could maybe every kind of [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► bug but again bugs camping and plus then [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► you you do have tornadoes and you got [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► hurricanes and you've got just the [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► culture of Florida which is its own kind [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► of creepy crawly right all plus [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► alligators [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► oh and you know what they just show up [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► they just show up in neighborhoods any [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► dogs that's fact that is a thing so [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► every time I'm in Florida which is which [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► is a surprising amount of time [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► considering how long i went in this life [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► without ever going to Florida [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► uh-huh then I turned a corner and then [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► suddenly I was in Florida all the time [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► i'm always thinking that there is going [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► to be an alligator [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► I've never seen an alligator on the hoof [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► and yet I'm there all the time and I [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► walk around all the time in parks and at [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► night and stuff and I'm like what [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► you know I'm afraid that there's an [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► alligator is going to come out of the [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► bushes and I don't even know if they [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► live in bushes but I'm but I'm worried [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► about huh other there i was moving along [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► one time and I saw one they come out of [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► those you know they make this [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► quote-unquote lakes [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► oh yeah record with it's really just [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► like for runoff from the roads or it so [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► I i noticed from the air you look down [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► and you're like there's not that that is [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► a man-made lake there's no reason for it [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► except that then they can call that [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► waterfront property instead of right as [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► you know in Florida every development is [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► named after whatever was destroyed to [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► make it so if you've got Indian Deer [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► Lake uh-huh [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► no more Indians nowhere gears marcus and [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► and you know the the perfectly it's [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► almost like you know like you get the [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► kind of like California swimming pools [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► that have like a very regular irregular [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► shape that those Lakes look like and [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► that's what the streets look like from [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► the air it's it's it's really peculiar [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► but now i remember i mean we have [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► canonical family stories about this one [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► day walking out of a beauty salon maybe [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► 1970 my mom there's a like an alligator [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► by our car [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► the digits to just show up and what do [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► you do when there's an alligator by your [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► car [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► well try to move away and if you have to [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► run zigzag because they can run 40 miles [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► an hour [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► did you know that most people think most [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► people think you know shortest point I'm [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► gonna run in a straight line not good [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► those little feet that thing up to 40 [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► miles an hour [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► look how that's fast with it what ya and [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► drag you down to their meat locker and [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► flipping around where you know we we [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► were were plagued for a while by moose [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► in our front yard and my mom would go [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► out because the thing is they would come [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► in the winter and eat all of her trees [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► in the missus mrs. eat tree [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► yeah they do they like to eat some they [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► like to eat portions of of young trees [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► that you know they're they're always [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► grazing grazing grazing grazing and so [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► sometimes we would look out the window [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► and there would be one big bull moose [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► and nine different cows and Cal all in [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► our front yard sound so cute i thought [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► so but my mom would get very upset [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► because they were eating her little [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► Japanese maples or whatever she decided [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► to plant the year before and so I have a [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► couple of very strong images burned into [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► my mind of my mom in a house coat with a [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► broom running out the front door and and [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► swatting the Moose she confronted the [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► mousse with the brown yeah and she [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► struck the moose [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► well no Swiss walking at them swell [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► pushing at them like a like a like a [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► scoot scoot motion right well what kind [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► of sweeten their moves are like a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► particularly the bowls like 70 feet also [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► meet all the shoulder and let me tell [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► you there is no thing more hilarious [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► than the look of complete blase on the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► face of a moose when confronted by a [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► woman in a housecoat like they would [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► stand there [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► just slowly chewing her trees down to [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► the nub completely unfazed and she would [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► be going scat scat and swishing this [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► broom at them and they would this they [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► would look over their shoulder it would [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► take them a full minute just to turn [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► their head they were so bored [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► oh ok that was driven your mom nuts over [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► even crazier and i'm standing on the [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► front porch you know completely just [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► doubled over in laughter and really [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► unwilling to join the fight right she's [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► like she's like get this broom come help [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► me and I'm like I refuse [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► I think every guy i think that every [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► summer we should plant trees and and [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► nurture them all summer long just as [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► most food just to recreate this this [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► drama every winter it was truly a [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► wonderful thing to behold but i imagine [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► if you came out of your house and there [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► was a alligator in your front yard even [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► your Japanese maple you would be less [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► inclined to try sweeping away [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► here's the thing i lived in Florida for [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► a really long time and i have over the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► years as you know John I'm trying to [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► grow as a person and so I don't want to [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► just beat up on florida it's just go [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► forward uh gives us so much to beat it [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► up about your doesn't seem to mind [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► you're very careful to always refer to [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► your part of florida as the suncoast [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► which is I think very generous of you [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► who you know that's like the sign that [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► they put up on the interstate highway [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► announcing like you're now in during the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► suncoast and you're always good about [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► that branding I think Florida as your [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► denigrated thank you [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► I you know I want to be I want to have I [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► want to provide a rounded view but I [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► mean here's one thing I think this was [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► an office for pasco county writ large i [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► think it was for new port richey in [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► particular which is where i went to [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► junior high school and you know how [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► every every city has like a slogan and [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► you know you see that on the cop cars [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► you see it on the official signs and [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► stuff like that and you don't really [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► notice it until you notice it [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► do you know what new port richey is [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► slogan is a gateway to recreation [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► mm-hmm at first at first that sounds [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► really good but you realize the gateway [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► to recreation [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► it's sort of like you know what there's [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► not a lot here but once you pass through [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► here you'll be might find something [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► that's just right over the next rise but [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► there are no rises in florida now now [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► its permit flat [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► have we have we talked about mega [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► tsunamis I don't think so now i I'm I'm [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► pretty freaked out about a tsunami [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► tsunami is kind of like a not a perfect [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► storm that's too clichéd but a tsunami [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► is kind of like multiple problematic [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► weather events all wrapped in one right [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► it isn't it isn't like just you get [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► hurricane in a hurricane plus an [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► earthquake right uh well let's see i [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► mean you could have a mega tsunami that [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► was generated by an earthquake far far [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► away so you didn't actually come from [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► earthquakes to yes she's just so if [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► there's an earthquake 100 in japan it [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► could create a wave so large it's like [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► my daughter sloshing around in the tub [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► and making super waves [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► that's right you get the cycles right [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► right you do you go a little bit with [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► the water and you start going to get the [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► water then you go with the water again [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► it's all over the floor and I gotta [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► clean it up [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► that's exactly what would happen with [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the ocean and your you know your [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► location there your undisclosed location [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► there somewhere on the California coast [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► is no it's fine of up he'll have to be a [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► big tsunami but mega tsunami our place [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► with good thinking about pancaking oh [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► yeah right because here just built on [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► front while on well you were built as [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► part of san francisco this is not [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► interesting but probably big part of the [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► whole giant western part of san [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► francisco nobody's ever been to where I [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► live is just sand dunes [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► yeah there's any place you don't you [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► like the marina is built on wrecked [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► ships [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► well that's true in seattle to there was [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► a big part or were all the sports [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► stadiums are here [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► yeah was originally just where we put [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► our poop right and then later auto [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► dealerships and then dealer then write [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► the auto dealerships came in and then [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► there was I think there was a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► Hooverville there for awhile and little [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► by little we just threw all of our [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► broken furniture and dead horses into [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► the mud pond and pretty soon it was like [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► you know what would look good there is a [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► baseball stadium so I think that's part [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► of the evolution of every city [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► yeah just have a you have a poop hole [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► grow some dead horses in it and then [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► build a baseball [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► Stadium autumn malls are good canary in [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► the coal mine though it's always [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► interesting how they're all in the same [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► place you know that [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► yeah because people when they're [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► shopping for cars they just want to [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► drive down one lone research I think [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► it's kind of like a Disney World type [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► situation where you know history disney [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► world now get your way off topic but [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► disney world you know they went in and [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► the most of the reedy creek development [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► group i think it was called based on [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► this nominal little creek there but they [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► went in the Disney Corporation went in [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► under all these different like shadow [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► organization all companies that's how [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► they were able to get so much land for [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► so cheap right because i think we oughta [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► malls work like that too they just go [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► where nobody else wants to go right [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► because if they had done and said hi [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► We're disney and were built were buying [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► up land there would have been some [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► holdout person it was like I want a [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► million dollars and all the trees [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► well so the wonderful thing about [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► Florida as it relates to the mega [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► tsunami is alway across the Atlantic off [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► of the coast of africa in the Canary [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► Islands there is an unstable sort of [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► volcanic face of a matter of a of an [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► island and the island has over the years [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► sort of created an unstable pneus to [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► itself either through volcanic action or [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► erosion so that is a giant sort of [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► mountain that is that has a you know [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► that the entire sort of west face of [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► this mountain is at an angle that is too [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► steep to support its own weight [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► this is the theory ok excuse me and that [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► in the in the grand tradition of a of [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► leonard nimoy ever it is only a matter [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► of time before the entire Mountain [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► collapses into the sea and when that [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► happens it could potentially or will [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► absolutely depending on which television [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► program you're watching create a 300 [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► foot tall tsunami wave [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► that goes all the way across the [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► Atlantic Ocean and as you know there is [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► nothing in Florida taller than 300 feet [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► no no I mean I think New Orleans it was [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► famously below sea level a lot of [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► Florida is at sea level at sea level [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► right and what is like not a lot of [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► tolerance there [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► what's the tallest point in Florida 13 [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► there's gotta be like that 3 amount [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► mount deer lake right mount Indian deer [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► lake that day like always point I'm just [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► gonna put this into the computer right [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► now in hollister flooring or did Todd's [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► point in Florida [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► let's freakin Hill that there's a list [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► of highest point sugarloaf mountain so [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► Britain hill is 345 Felix that look at [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► that it's like pretty much all right [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► it's just really Alabama it's not even [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► really Florida all right it's all the [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► way up there [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► oh my gosh 300 c300 second highest point [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► sugarloaf mountain and Britain he'll [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► bring Helen up and look at 345 feet [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► that's right so so let's imagine now a [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► 300-foot tsunami away from the Canary [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► Islands slowly making its way across the [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► Atlantic Ocean with the canary islands [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► of collapsed and we are all aware that [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► this tsunami waves coming now the [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► tsunami wave is also going to inundate [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► charleston and savannah and New York [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► City and it's just it's going to be a [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► wave of devastation but Florida uniquely [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► has nowhere to run and so all the people [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► in New York City are frantically [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► scrambling sort of like at the beginning [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► of world war z they're all trying to get [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► in there stolen Winnebagos and drive [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► inland there's a lot of places even [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► though that is also i know it's [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► technically peninsula is an island but [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► there's still places to go you can still [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► go upstate or something [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► yeah you gotta just go go i mean i you [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► know i'm not sure if I were down in [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► lower Manhattan maybe i would just go up [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► a skyscraper and feel like well uh maybe [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► this way we'll just hit the skyscraper [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► really hard but not knocking that'll be [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► fine they make this pretty strong now [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► yeah they're strong right who but in [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► Florida there is nowhere to go and so [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► how many minutes [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► let's ask the computer how many millions [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► of people are in florida and i'll tell [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► you i will tell you that somebody who at [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► one point I had lived in Tallahassee [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► which is very near georgia and I had [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► family as you say back on the Suncoast [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► that was a if I honor the law that was a [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► four-hour drive but like driving to the [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► east coast like trying to get out of [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► like palm beach or even god Miami pump [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► each that's going to be eight hours to [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► get out of the state [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► really yes it's like an eight-hour Drive [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► it's a it's a here's the other thing [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► there's a funny thing is every dumb [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► spring break kid goes let's go to Key [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► West and so you drive you get in your [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► car in in lutz or elfers and you start [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► driving [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► oh you start driving you drive you drive [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► won't holy shit this is a really long [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► drive you finally hit the end of Florida [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► you're lucky a key west like no sorry [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► Johnny [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► now you get to the real part like we've [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► got to get to key west which is like [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► just super slow [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► it's a really long drive this is a good [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► point John this is that's that is so did [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► you know i'm learning this from [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► wikipedia which is never wrong [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► there was a mega tsunami know about the [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► this is in your parents lifetime Lituya [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► Bay Alaska 1958 that's right you know [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► about this i do whether it's exactly the [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► type same type of situation a big [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► landslide a giant landslide at the head [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► of left the two-year bay alaska caused [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► by an earthquake generated away with an [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► initial amplitude of up to one thousand [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► seven hundred and twenty feet highest [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► wave ever recorded mhm and there is a [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► person and not even a small bag packed [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► holy shit there's a there there there is [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► a guy who claims to have been on a boat [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► on that Bay and it lifted him up and [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► took him up the side of a mountain and [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► then brought him back down and he [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► survived [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► mmm 1,700 feet that's like from here to [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► the safeway that's pretty that's pretty [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► that's a lot of feet jobs a big wave if [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► you imagine that there's nothing in [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► Florida taller than 300 feet 1,700 feet [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► is really really a big way you'll be [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► okay for a couple minutes but but you [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► know Florida I'm now discovering again [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► through the internet that Florida is the [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► third most populous state in the union [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► with 19 almost 20 million people [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► so now we're California New York [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► California Texas what's the second you [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► know Texas has got a lot of people in it [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► california has the same size economy as [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► Italy turns out and got a lot of people [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► who was second [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► well let's see let's go most policy of [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► popular states of population of states i [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► guess Texas is going to be right in [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► there at California Texas Florida that's [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► right in New York is for California's 37 [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► million people that's insane this should [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► be five states no question maybe [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► balkanize there's nobody much million30 [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► almost 40 million people John I think [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► you know i'm all for diversity [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► yeah but like stockton and Eureka and [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► San Francisco and San Diego should not [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► be in the same state [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► no it's true though should be there [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► should be in different states there are [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► 40 million people in the UK right i mean [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► Germany has 60 million people in and and [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► and France says 40 million or the UK as [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► 40 million something like that I'm not [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► adorable i know i'm sitting and looking [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► at the internet right now but I'm not [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► going to just sit and talk about the [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► Internet [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► no but anyway I want I want you to [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► picture the 20 million people in Florida [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► all trying to figure out what they're [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► gonna do as a as a 300-foot wave [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► approaches some of them are going to get [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► in there big boats and head toward the [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► way which I think would be the smart [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► move [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► that's the Christian thing to do trade [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► some of them are going to try and get [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► over to Tampa and that way was just [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► gonna just gonna be right on their heels [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► don't you think it just crack off and go [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► right off the foundation just crack off [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and become an island I think that would [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► be that hard to do [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► yeah i mean i think that would only [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► hanging on Jonna parts it's pretty [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► skinny [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► I think that it would I think it would I [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► think this wave would go across it and [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► like maybe a few days later the water [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► would subside and scour all of the you [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► know all of the sort of roadside [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► flat-roofed one-story malls and you know [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► going to be a clean slate and we just [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► get back to dooms uh-huh and we could [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► start all over again build a railroad [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► down there [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► you know Thomas Edison and PT Barnum [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► coming downhill the hotel sure the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► parents the Bears will come down we [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► should get our friend physicist grant [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► Balfour involved in this hisa he knows a [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► lot about floor and he's been their most [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► of his life [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► yeah he's a he's one of the great [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► Floridians and also a physicist and an [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► editor and scientists yeah yeah he [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► should be he should you know where we've [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► been talking about our other yeah our [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► other Enterprise I can be tough to deal [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► with what you're up to but i'm telling [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► you we can help a lot of people by [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► talking to grant isn't there is nothing [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that i am up to that would preclude a [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► enterprise right that is the foundation [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► of of America oh my god John that brings [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► us to an important point our [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► conversation em they're into things [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► there are two fucking things [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► well we are going to cover today okay [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► one of them is I would absolutely to [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► hear an update on how things are going [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► with that with with your latest venture [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and you sure as shit know I'm gonna get [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► my chicken recipe today I'm so excited [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► to see if you see the Fox popular people [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► are people are losing they want to know [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► they say I love chicken I like cooking [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► well enough to give me a life-changing [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► thought technology and cooking chicken [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► well this is the thing that I can this [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► is a little bit of context that I can [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► provide for the listeners although you [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► have introduced me to multiple food [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► thought technologies including making [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► bacon in the oven before including [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► before it was called the bacon method [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► for it was called that'll make a big [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► deal about a problem doing that for [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► yeah you you introduce that to me I over [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► a decade ago and it blew my mind at the [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► time you also introduced me to the [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► concept of a weekend morning dimsum [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► eaten in large quantities ordering dim [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► sum in quantities you cannot possibly [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► think that you're gonna finish and then [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► just doing it [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► I've never not finished the dim sum but [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► also you have to credit you with the wet [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► weather you specifically a it gave me [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► this not technology or whether you [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► planted the seed that develop that [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► developed into this thought technology [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► but i believe i got the make all the [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► bacon [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► philosophy from you that's so [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► interesting it's like calculus like [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► everybody can figure it out about the [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► same time [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► mhm i do them now I think we got it we [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► got the way by the big zip locks and [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► make all the noodles all the great [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► noodle that's right all the news and I'm [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► not sure whether whether or whether we [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► we we just both arrived at that together [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► or whether that is part of our like [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► american heritage or what it is but you [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► are not a person who makes half a pot of [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► let's just put it down right when it's [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► time when it's time to make another pot [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► of coffee you make an entire pot of [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► coffee and yeah and you know and [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► sometimes I sometimes somebody will be [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► like you know I can make some coffee you [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► know they'll be at my house and I'll [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► make some coffee i'm sure go ahead make [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► some coffee and they make one of you [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► know they make like four cups of car [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► like toy coffee and i'm playing what are [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► you doing huh what the all of that work [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► you put all of that that you put all [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► that English on it and you're just [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► getting four cups of coffee out of it [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► no it'sit's just total waste time and [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► especially for somebody like yourself [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► he's not afraid to take coffee has been [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► sitting there for a couple days and take [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► it on the road and drink it [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► hello because I I actually happen to [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► think that whatever that mold is the [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► develops on coffee [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► yeah in the first few days it just has a [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► kind of psychoactive quality it's not [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► all the way to like oh this is terrible [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► it's just a little bit just puts a [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► little bit of this a little spin on [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► probably probably laughed at the first [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► guy who ate an oyster the first the [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► first gal who had a mushroom [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► yeah in your case you you're enjoying [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► coffee mushrooms the first person that [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► hated peanuts so much that they turned [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► the match them so hard that it turned [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► into peanut butter [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► yes exactly i hate these peanuts [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► delicious peanut sauce i think that was [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► I mean I made a joke at you the other [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► day about George Washington Carver who I [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► still just remember so much because it [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► was the first biography ever read as a [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► child I think with you the one that [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► great at the peanut gym right [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► whoo that's right that's right it was a [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► it was think he's revolutionized the [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► South irritable to make ashtrays [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► rearview mirrors he may actually make [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► peanuts out of sweet potatoes jimmy [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► carter got elected on the strength of [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► that platform crack corn and it was an [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► amazing time [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► mother mother of invention that's right [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► now yeah there's so many things and I [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► mean that's the kind of innovation you [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► know we're talking about here I mean you [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► know in Alaska that might be moose but [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► you know you got to take what there's a [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► lot of in my case that's noodle [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► and I make it all so I you know you [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► remember a time and I surely remember [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► time because I'm the one introducing the [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► topic [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► yeah when swizzle sticks were a major [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► feature on the American landscape [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► swizzles I said like the red vines [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► competitor no no swizzle sticks are the [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► little plastic like a drink stirrer like [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► rock candy on that kind of thing that's [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► right a drink stirrer but for a long [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► time there in American history [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► swizzle sticks were were an item of [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► schwag you would go into the collective [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► as a kid that's right you go into the [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► bar they put a little swizzle stick in [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► your drink to stir your drink but this [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► will stick with it would be embossed [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► with the name of the bar and some for [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the airline I had delta airlines ones [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► that were really cool they had a big [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► logo on the end and so it was very cool [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► it was very popular collect collector [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► item you try to mass an enormous [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► collection of swizzle sticks from around [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► the world and i'm sure out there in [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► America right now there are swizzlestick [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► collections just sitting on man pooling [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► it right now right and i look for them [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► in thrift stores all the time that i'm [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► going to find somebody's swizzlestick [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► collection I've never found one but in [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► the seventies there were swizzle sticks [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► everywhere and the reason I bring this [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► up is that in Alaska it was very [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► possible very popular i wanted the big [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► tourist sellers in the seventies was a [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► moose turd which as you know looks [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► exactly like one of those little [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► chocolate Easter eggs wrapped in foil [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► except made out of compacted grass so a [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► little moose turd and they would dip the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► moose turd in polyurethane and then put [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► it on a swizzle stick [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► what so the moose turd swizzle sticks [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► were a big big item i'm sure that there [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► are tens of thousands of moose turd [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► swizzle sticks and they call the Moose [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► nuggets because nobody likes to buy [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► something with the word turd in it but [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► moose nugget swizzlestick big big item [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► it was you could get it in any airport [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► in many it was this tempting like I'm [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► leave [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► in Alaska I didn't get presents for [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► anybody haha look at this moose nuggets [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► little sticks I'll get one for the whole [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► family [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► so that was a major export before we I [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► mean sort of [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► after gold but before Oriole [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► right-hander shared goals and that was a [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► big deal and there was this interregnum [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► where there was like oh shit Johnny's [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► all these are horrible the other that [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► well my god they look like it's almost [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► get to like not see pop but it really [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► looks like poop on a stick so then been [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► using the pet rock theorem then people [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► were like oh if we can put a moose [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► nugget on a swizzle stick [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► who wouldn't want moose nugget ear rings [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► and then you could buy moose nugget [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► earrings now picture in tight a keyring [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► picture someone coming up becoming a [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► meeting you for a blind date and she is [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► wearing moose nugget earrings but it was [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► a it was very popular item at the time [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► that just says local gal the next the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► nineteen seventies were very unusual era [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► so anyway [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► swizzle sticks ice i miss them sometimes [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► I wonder like whatever happened [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► yeah that's a really good question [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► things kind of my one is cost-cutting [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► where like if you could have a little [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► dinky straw [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► maybe that's maybe something now we're [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► like the economies of scale to making [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► dinky little straw has gotten so big [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► that you don't need an extra little [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► stick it's like more excuse to keep in [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► stock but then it's also the mcdonalds [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► problem and I don't know if this is true [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► i think this is probably it turns out [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► thing but you know people supposedly you [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► know mcdonald's to make a pretty sweet [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► little swizzle stick oh that's right [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► with the little em on the topic was had [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► a beautiful golden like was white but [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► had the arches on one end and what did [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► have at the other end [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► uh-oh and had like a hamburglar no no [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► had a tiny had a tiny tiny spoon it did [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► have a spoon it was adorable it was this [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► tiny spoon and so my primary use for [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► those was a yeah my primary you see [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► exactly are you here you've got it [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► my primary use was if you hold a rubber [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► band between your thumb and middle [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► finger and put the arches into the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► rubber band pull back that shit off like [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► 50 feet you can really harm a person [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► with one now it's like a little homemade [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► level will hand crossbow a hand crossbow [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► yep but I die [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► no you know it now again this is the way [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► America works and this is what needs to [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► change I want to get back to your [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► campaign but this is the problem is that [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► i think the story was that the I bet [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► it's one of those second-order urban [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► myths that things we're like so wait so [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► you're going to use a mcdonalds stirred [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► a snort cocaine like I bet people heard [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► that and then they had to get rid of it [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► because now the urban myth was bigger [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► than the thing [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► yeah i guess it was exactly the kind of [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► little dimensions of of of of a coke [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► spoon [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► yeah maybe that's where they where they [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► derived the design of coke spoons huh [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► you know like you know you should get an [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► egg chicken you know i'm malcolm [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► gladwell so how boy so many things have [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► changed in our lives that the other day [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► you sent me a beautiful picture of a [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► deluxe VHS set of it was classic the [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► classic world war two d-day invasion [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► movie what I think it's got to be it [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► sounds like it's like intellectually one [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► of your favorite movies but it's also [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► like you and your dad used to watch this [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► movie right [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► the longest day the longest day an [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► amazing film an all-star cast and really [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► like a lot of what's amazing about the [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► longest days there are a lot of comedic [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► actors in it playing dramatic roles [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► right like red buttons isn't how right [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► he plays it straight and there's a lot [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► of there's a lot of planets straight [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► happening and it's one of those like [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► it's one of those all-star cast swear [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► you you feel like oh this is one of [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► those Brad Pitt movies where everybody [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► and their mom is in it and it's just [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► going to be terrible but in fact like [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► these people show up these famous famous [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► actors show up and do kind of small [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► parts before they were super famous some [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► of them women already famous you get [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► John Wayne Henry Fonda robert mitchum [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► right but then you got you got a very [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► young sean connery three a young richard [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► burton he believed that and everybody [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► just like act in their pants off and [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► it's a big budget film and unlike later [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► world war two movies they still had [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► access to all the actual hardware [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► right so it's not it's not like a lot of [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► those a lot of the later world war two [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► movies like there will be planes flying [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► over all the time but if you are [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► somebody I'm not gonna say like you but [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► if you're in kind of person that could [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► tell every everything that's ever [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► existed by its shape if you had sort of [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► person if you're the type of person like [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► me who is looking at the planes in those [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► scenes instead of what the actors are [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► doing underneath you will begin to [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► notice that they only have three planes [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► and they keep flying them by in [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► different configurations like here comes [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► one plane and now there's three planes [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► but that the first plane is in the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► little group of 32 and you're just like [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► and a particularly when they use the [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► wrong plane like here come the Germans [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► wait a minute that's their flying piper [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► cubs like rice very frustrating that [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► what should be like I don't know like in [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► the war seems like they've got toy guns [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► like you would look at that and get that [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► doesn't even make any sense that the [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► consumer plane and I don't want to be I [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► don't want to be one of those Civil War [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► reenactors that's like that's the wrong [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► belt buckle [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► the problem is if you know a lot about a [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► thing it's kinda hard not to be that guy [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► yeah right you're just sort of like oh [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► this is a disappointment and part of the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► disappointment is when I realized they [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► only have three planes i also realized [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► like oh those are the only three f4u [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► corsairs left in existence in 1962 and [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► that makes me very sad I'm so sad but in [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► the during the longest day right they [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► were selling all that military hardware [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► like you could go buy a p40 tomahawk for [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► fourteen dollars if you could just get [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► the gas in it you know and and so [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► they're made the American this movie and [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► it's just like wow I mean I'm sure there [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► were a lot of people on the set that we [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► had actually been at d-day and they were [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► just working as gaffers or something on [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► the you know like it its it's impressive [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► yeah and state state the obvious but i [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► think this is very interesting also [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► people who were some of whom were just [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► about little young maybe but just about [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► the age where they might have even [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► served in world war two or at least have [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► been in the Army at some point [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► are you kidding i think everybody in [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► that movie was yeah right i miss my [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► family [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► uh well you know he served in other ways [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► he he had a he had a he had a hernia [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► herniated disc [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► oh no really no I don't think so no I [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► think he just I think it took away from [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► the smoking time I think he's just a [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► shirker a layabout a goldbrick but [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► because the longer you call john wayne i [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► linger you know I don't know I just feel [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► like 62 that was John Wayne's you know [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► that was like he was even a little bit [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► past his oh yeah i did stagecoach and I [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► think 1939 right and you know he could [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► have done he could have done a benny [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► goodman he could have gone out and and [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► and played the trombone about foreplay [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► Miller's our client Miller right gonna [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► see now look I was just that guy with [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► you nobody would have fucking care that [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► you said Benny Goodman but I i know it's [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► good milord I good miller played the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► trombone and benny goodman played the [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► clarinet you know what John in some ways [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► modern man modern life and especially [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► modern manhood is just deciding which [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► subset of things you're going to be [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► insufferable about actually there's a [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► space in OS 10 / 30 i sense that sense [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► that declaring for public office I've [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► gotten into a few long conversations [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► with people on the internet where which [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► are very much in the spirit of that like [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► well did you ever consider blankety [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► blankety blank and I'm learning had [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► learning that I need to really really [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► really really choose how long of a [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► conversation I'm going to have on [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► facebook messenger because you know I i [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► had eliminated facebook almost do you [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► have facebook you're running for office [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► my god that had not even occurred to me [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► yeah so I had to get for your halloween [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► off it pretty good i would have felt [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► good I i just used you know i ported [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► over my tweets over there so if people [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► that I went to high school with that [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► didn't have twitter if they wanted to [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► hear my thoughts which none of them did [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► but if that they were there right but [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► now I had tried to download the facebook [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► app to my phone and then I had to follow [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► through on their whole like scheme to [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► get me to download messenger which is [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► and just organize the wrap these two [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► have one up another got a bunch apps [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► right and they're just the worst they're [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► all the worst and it's just the worst [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► place that's not as bad as LinkedIn but [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► it's [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► pretty bad and so now I'm over there and [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► people want to message me somebody [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► messaged me the other day that was just [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► like trying to get list me in some sort [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of a like sex scheme it's just it's too [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► it's an awful environment for the for [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the for the public good [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► well you know I mean people people have [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► a different idea of other public servant [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► they want to bring the constituencies [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► that's right thank you [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► but enough about that are we ready are [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► we ready to talk about the chicken [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► well I'mI'm ready in a second to talk [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► about the chicken but I that you know [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► it's only been a week now [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► yes that's right did you want to would [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you like to talk about how it's been [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► going well it's been going swimmingly [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► you know the challenge the challenge for [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► me is I do believe in I do believe [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► passionately in public service and I [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► believe in the city of seattle the [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► question is how do you run for public [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► office in America and not become a [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► monster because everyone once you this [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► is the thing about politics right [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► everybody wants you to be a monster they [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► expect you to be a monster that's who [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► that this this this conversation we have [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► with one another about like about [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► politics [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► we're also exhausted by the fact that [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► everyone who runs for office is a [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► monster but then when someone runs for [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► office we expect them to perform in a [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► way that only a monster could do right [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► like the only people who could stand up [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► in front of a room and say I have the [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► answers like our are liars or maniacs [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► for sociopaths no no one has the answer [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► we don't want to elect people who have [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the answers we want to elect people who [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► are capable of of like acting on our [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► behalf to make difficult choices and to [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► make choices is very different than to [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► have the answers to make choices is a is [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► a set of skills that is a skill set [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► right where you are capable of [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► processing a lot of complicated [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► information a lot of like opposing views [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► that all sound sane and reasonable and [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► then make the best choice that you can [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► on behalf of the rest of us because we [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► can't all possibly choose everything and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► it's like one of the foundations of [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► civilization right we don't every person [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► doesn't walk into the room and decide [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► again whether or not they're going to [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► wear pants [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► we just mutually decided that we all [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► have to wear pants that's one of the [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► rules and if you do if you walk in and [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► say well my culture we don't wear pants [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► we don't everybody doesn't get a chance [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► to assert that right it's just like no [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► we all wear pants that is a [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► long-standing pants daytime we may not [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► love it but it keeps the peace [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► that's right and ultimately it's totally [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► arbitrary right its total it's a [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► complete completely manufactured that we [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► all have decided to wear pants but we [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► have and it and you can you can argue it [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► but like the case is kind of made let's [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► get on down the road right so so public [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► servants are I mean there are scientists [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► to adjudicate the science there are [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► bureaucrats to fill out the forms and [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► file them properly the public servant is [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► someone who you elect in your stead and [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► you trust that person to make difficult [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► decisions on your behalf and so you ask [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► only that that person have have good [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► character have a like lucid mind and be [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► you know and be willing to make [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► decisions and take some heat for them [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► but also you know make them in good [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► faith right but then when someone offers [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► to run for office we immediately start [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► asking them to show us that they are [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► that they are willing to stand in front [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► of us and claimed to have either perfect [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► knowledge or infallibility or spotless [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► character spotless character that if [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► if a person actually if a person came to [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► a party at our house and had a character [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► with no spots on it we would talk to [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► them for a minute and then move away [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► from them and go find someone [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► interesting to talk to you know all [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► these things that we all these uh these [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► ever narrowing apertures that we force [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► under their arms [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► what's the word contradictory [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► paradoxical like you can't have all of [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► these things you can't you can't have [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► somebody who's got a vision for change [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► by me is you know I don't want to talk [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► to me false economy is but it's [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► difficult to have somebody that did [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► ticks all the boxes on every single side [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► and isn't actually a psychopath right [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► and so we keep them elected a [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► Psychopaths because those are the only [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► people that that pass the litmus tests [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► and then we're disappointed in their [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► behavior because they go to office and [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► partly because of what they had to do to [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► get to get it get through the campaign [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► that's right all the different people [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► that they had to lose bar they had to [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► sort of pass so in in the course of even [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► just the first week of my campaign i [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► have had a handful of choices to make [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► where the choice was presented to me um [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► and this is what the expectation is and [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► i look at the expectation and I say well [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► in order to fulfill that expectation i [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► would have to i would get in fulfilling [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► it i would be demonstrating that I have [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► a lack of character because to to do [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► that thing is is a is it like a [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► completely incompatible with being good [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► at this office and so i will i will not [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► do the thing I will not debase myself in [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► order to get elected you know in such a [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► way that I would be compromising the you [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► know the the very thing I i think i [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► would bring to the office and in and [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► what's been fascinating so far is that [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► in every instance the reaction that I [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► get [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► has been surprised and then like sort of [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► delighted acquiescence everybody goes oh [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► okay great [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► sure well then then lets the just not do [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► that and I'm like okay great well it's [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► not then let's not just manufacture a [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► conflict with somebody that's not a [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► let's not put every single idea i have [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► in the in a in a false equivalency with [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► someone else's ideas or or like a like a [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► fault in some kind of guy I do not [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► intend to run for this office by [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► contrasting myself with someone else and [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► that is that's what I'm realizing [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► everything you're saying there's an [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► implicit in all of those risky [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► proposition is a couple things one is [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► constantly assuming a comparison with [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► someone else that is being made or [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► should be made and then second I think [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► kind of related to that is making [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► appearances that may or may not need to [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► be made and also kind of trying to be [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► pre-emptive about something like trying [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► to preemptively like lay this groundwork [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► it's almost like an opening the opening [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► game in chest like you're trying to get [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► things set up in this certain way but [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► they both require you to be something [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► other than a person who's in [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► in that moment in some ways yeah but but [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► then I guess once you start thinking [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► about it must be difficult to stop [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► thinking about it because they need you [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► have to think like oh if I say this is [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► somebody there for 50 things you've said [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► in this that somebody could take out of [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► context just today and turn it into [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► something weird that now you're expected [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► to respond to [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► yeah right well and also just the sense [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► that like well you need to you know [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► something happened something happened in [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► Washington and you need to make a press [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► release when you get out in front of it [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► and you compare yourself to other [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► candidates in such a way that it makes [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► them look slow and dumb right [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► them look slow and dumb right [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and I'm like well I would do that if I [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► well I mean I I i would release a press [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► release about my ideas about this event [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► but I'm counting on Washington voters in [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► seattle voters to if they if they want [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► to elect me to this office to do so on [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► the strength of the ideas that i put [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► forth not on how quickly you call them [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► together [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► well I'm not not on how i posit those [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► ideas against someone else's ideas like [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► I'm very confident that I have that I [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► have good ideas and that I'm that I'm [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► good at this conversation I have no [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► interest in going to war with another [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► person who also is you know is doing a [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► difficult job of volunteering for public [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► service asking people to listen to their [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► ideas and appreciate their ideas and if [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► if five people are running for an office [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► and five of them put forth us a slate of [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► ideas [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► it should be a simple matter of choosing [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► the candidate whose ideas and whose [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► personality and character reflect yours [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► the best without meeting to without the [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► candidates needing to make this sort of [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► pedantic comparison between themselves [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► that always takes the form of like an [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► insult war or for worse that kind of [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► like stiff-necked like my opponent your [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► leaves that children should be thrown [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► down wells i do not believe this [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► it's like your opponent doesn't believe [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► that first of all sir and second of all [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► of course you don't believe that [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► like why why are you I mean it's that [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► it's the reason that we feel like we're [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► being spoken to like children because [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► the dialogue takes on this lowest common [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► denominator kind of tone anyway so long [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► story short I am getting into this [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► campaigning thing and I'm enjoying every [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► aspect of it but multiple times a day I [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► have to kind of stand there plant my [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► feet and say I'm not gonna run that kind [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► of campaign and I'm just asking if you [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► can say like based on advice you get [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► from others based on pressure you feel [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► based on emotions for what's happening [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► right now based on what kinds of things [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► all of the above right i mean the the [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► people potentially good people smart [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► people but advising you on something [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► where like I can't do that i can do that [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► well and and then you sit down with some [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► reporters and they start immediately [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► asking you questions that are phrased in [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► a way to preach to prompt you to make [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► that kind of statement you know they say [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► well your opponent says this that and [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► the other [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► how how how do you respond and let's go [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► well I'm happy for my opponents all of [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► them i think it's very hard to come up [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► with things to say [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► anyway do you have a question about what [TS]