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00:00:22 ◼ ► hi Merlin was goin it's good i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► sitting here looking at my skype a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► account here and it seems like squirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► dot flirts 3 has tried to connect with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► me is a nice guy you should totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► threats 33 m now in scoring first nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/40">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► yeah well I'm not sure whether so skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► offers me he's got just a leg avatar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► skype says I can block him to decline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/50">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► what do I lean toward I mean block and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► decline are both just died of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► having a hard time deciding between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► two except feels a little bit close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► I don't I feel like yeah he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► connect with me a lot of people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► connect with me i don't i don't accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► all those offers but i'm not sure i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/76">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► yeah I mean it's kind of provocative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► block yeah right it seems like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► something about this person from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► name squirting flirts 3i know enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► block them you know you think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► maybe he had a grandfather and father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► there's somebody Florence's yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► squirting squirts senior squirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/100">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► flirts jr. that's like a terrible comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► book i think i'm going to decline let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► yeah you know Merlin it may surprise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► to know that there are a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► who are very invested in conventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/113">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► narratives there are a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► are very invested in conventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► conventional narratives oh yeah see it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► all the investment of all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► little bit of drift here can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► food well here I haven't got a clue you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► know just very open with squirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► yeah 3 um yeah according to 340 got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► learn about in like a like a literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► tradition or like understanding how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► world works yeah I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► gives it a in terms of understanding how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► the world works in terms of applying our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► our muscle our human muscle to making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► the world better conventional narratives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► tend to dominate over say old alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► alternative narratives ok let's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► all that's all that's all I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► point goes to John right i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► that's not a not a tennis match it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► example of an unconventional narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/182">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► unconventional narratives you mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► where this story people are looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► certain kinds of templates for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► things go with good guys and bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► and yeah endings and comebacks and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► yeah yeah I think I think the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that gets that gets me more often than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► expertise we've talked about this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► idea in American life that that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► are experts and those experts have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► special knowledge but by virtue of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► of their expertise their education and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► their their experience and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/219">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► there are experts of course there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► specialized knowledge but we-we-we give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► experts that the transference principal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► too often applies right that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► because someone is an expert in mollusks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► say we assume that they are an expert in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► a in all the biological sciences or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/244">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► assume that with it we we allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► speak on behalf of all French people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/251">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► right because they are an expert in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► mollusks we presume that they can speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► for french people and it rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► find just a normal French person or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► couple of French people maybe without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► even exactly checking their credentials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► as a mollusk expert right and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► other thing like what does it take to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► a mosque experts right is there a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► I mean I've seen a lot of people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► many many years of college who who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► barely barely capable of remembering to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► breathe regularly right i mean they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► to stay have to have to have to remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► breathe in breathe out but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► advanced degrees and I think I mean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► i'm sure i am absolutely certain looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► at the demographics of our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► that they're out there somewhere right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► now is a mollusk expert listen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► don't have to speak up right and i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► you boys and your out your sweaty flirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► I think that bismallah can squirt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► think no that's right and what is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► mollusk word called the flirts alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► that's from the French yeah so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► squirting flirts was trying maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► I don't know maybe maybe this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► little time travel a little ripping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► time-travel scheme where I was like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► I was talking to squirt influence in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► future and now i'm going to not back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► the past and he's here to kill Sarah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► Connor come with me if you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► better you French maybe yeah no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/346">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► must write i bet you that the mollusk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► expert the contacts us lives in Tasmania [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► mmm i think we still got pretty deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► penetration with the Germans yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► you know the Germans I think the Germans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► listen to podcasts I think they do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► think that they like mollusks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► don't know why the French get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► yeah right the Germans they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► famine ocean-front emotion from property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► yeah they mostly use it to build v2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► rockets but i have found myself moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/380">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► into now that I do cancel Chancellor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► kisa my whole way of thinking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► world is becoming really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► here now is it true that he is argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► no I don't think so no but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► can't wait to get together but oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► I'm so looking forward to that on but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► don't know I this is something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/402">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► kind of dog me for a long time is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► know all the various kinds of 21 think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/405">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► cognitive biases but like all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► that we walk around automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► thinking and doing without ever really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► anything like whether they're true or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► like why we might be getting it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► consequences you know its ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► you know in the same way that are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► of poor thinking can lead us to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► anxious and depressed I think poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► thinking whether that's as a person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► citizen or whatever logical fallacies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► cognitive disconnects no idea biases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► Yaga Tobias's and I mean you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► something as it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► that's always hiding in plain sight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► why bring it up here is something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► the confirmation bias which is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► that you tend to seek out information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/449">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► information that confirms what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► rather than makes you doubt what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► probably a tribal impulse for like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► we do that in a lot of ways there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► self-preservation aspect to that whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► its preservation of life for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► I think there's reasons I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► selling french philosopher but like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► been thinking about this a lot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► we talked about like conventional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► unconventional narratives I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► because they're or reliance on experts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► and certainly there's the appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► Authority all those different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► logical fallacies we're like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► all the pieces in our world stay fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► together much easier if we can find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► stories that keep telling us what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► already think or tell us what we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► believe what you tell us what we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► reckon then I mean I know this isn't far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► from the first person to bring this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► but once you start really thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► those things and you can you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► have to think about those things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► you're you're fighting inertia or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► momentum or velocity your but you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► it you've got to fight all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► narratives or counter those narratives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► everyday like do you really want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► weird rock and roll candidate well first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► of all let's talk about whether i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► am the weird rock and roll can didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► remember but i don't know it because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► don't know I'm starting to think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► and more that like that a certain kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► of self-doubt is a very healthy thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► well and self-doubt is precisely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► thing that we do not have a culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► away to a prize or or or rate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/530">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► self-doubt they're just it and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► the more successful you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► bigger the race and the more successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► home of politicians you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► more all of their self-doubt is all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► their expressed self-doubt is couched in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/557">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► self-effacement part of the program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► where it turns out at the end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► self-effacement is actually a charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► uh you know charming strength that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► candidate has there's there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► there's no opportunity for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► running for public office to genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► say not only do I not know but i may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► wrong right and I'm and that's that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/586">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► yeah right and and and so you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► somebody up you know you put somebody up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► at a an elector and they say well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► only do I not know about that but i but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► I have some feelings about it and I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► be wrong you sound like an ignorant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► dummy you selling somebody who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► know about something and it's surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► that you would even minute that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► that shows that you're not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► bright yeah and then the next you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► then your opponent stands up and says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► know about this and I've definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► wrong and everybody applauds and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/618">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► particularly like the way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► we're trending we want people to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► to say I mean this is kind of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► the whole question about the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► are sort of lecturing ourselves now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/634">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and and really pointedly engaging people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/639">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► insensitively and saying like know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► you know not acceptable you have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► have to wonder are we do we genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► hope that they change or are we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► trying to we're just trying to destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► people that are that would disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► us and I believe we hope we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► hope that they can change but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► present that that then requires of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► that we accept it when people say I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► wrong right I was wrong and I've thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► about it and I've talked to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► people I've read some things I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► I was wrong it's hard for me to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► and I'm trying to make this change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► so we have to allow for that we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► accept it and too often you get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► that I I feel like we have this like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► bicameral tendency to say you're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► and you need to learn and the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► goes well I'm I you're right and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► trying to learn and then we said nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► can change but why would expect you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► yeah you can't really change and so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► it turns out is that we don't we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► trying to educate check people or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► the world better we're just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► well that's part of what makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► statement which may be true but it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► be a true statement sometimes but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► it really makes me pressing when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► whether it's something about raising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► awareness or it's about education and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► feel like the second one in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► is a real code word maybe might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► kind of dog whistle which is that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► people need to think like like I do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► that really means because because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► don't think in your kind of getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► one of the bias problems which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► when we go out there and educate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/745">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► world what we're really i mean how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► are we learning three new things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► everything that we teach somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► oh yeah because we're sure interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► getting everybody else fixed but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► where we're so certain about that need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► for that education that we may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► closing out a lot of information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► can educate us it's true and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► one of the things over the years right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► that has characterized me is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► that i speak very emphatically right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► say when I say something I say it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► tone of voice and with the phraseology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► that suggests that i am and i'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► confident about what I'm saying and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► as listeners to our program no I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► things confidently and then I say other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► things confidently and that confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► is is is a tone and it's also probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► defense mechanism that I learned as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► kid to you know to to to masquerade as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► confidence or whatever but it sells at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► thinking across a lot of terrain but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/805">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► also wrong i'm often wrong deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/810">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and a lot of that I a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► emphatically speaking is really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► projection of the fact that the voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/822">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► yes it is extremely self critical so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► there are there's a chorus of voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► saying you are wrong all the time to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► and once when I say something out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► that seems like I'm pretty you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► definitive like you've always thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► that and always will and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► yeah but in fact you know I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► trying to shout down all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► people all the different means who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► saying you should go back you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► crawl back into the hole he came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► so but you know to to be in your forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► and to continue to be flexible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► continue to say like I I know more now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► than I did even a year ago about so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/872">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► things and some of those things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► challenged stuff i had thought for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/878">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► I mean but because you know just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/882">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► those things were challenging doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► mean I stuck my head in the ground and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► now I've changed the way I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► stuff but to took to go up and stand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/893">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► the you know in public and say that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► you're next to people who are who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► saying I've always felt this way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► always will feel this way this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► this is the only way to feel which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► candidates you have one minute to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► shower us with confidence and make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► feel like make us feel like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► deeply capable and and full of expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► so you know the conventional narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► of who we want to lead us is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/928">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► want you know we want leaders without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► doubt right and then but in every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► aspect of life we recognize that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► without doubt our are dangerous people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► without doubt our are unhealthy both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► they are personally unhealthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► they're unhealthy for us like never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► follow a leader that doesn't express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► doubt seems to be something we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► teach we should teach ourselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► teach our kids because it i'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► think of the implications of that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► can't get away from the personal aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► of this which is that we feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► everybody else should be endlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► flexible about learning the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► we're flexible about but I think on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► yeah and so the problem is though if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► had a candidate for public figure or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► somebody who was there aren't that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/977">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► people in a position of power who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► doing what you what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► because they may like that personally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► somebody who's being who they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► correcting but they wouldn't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► in a leader you know you wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► because that got you pretty soon you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► straight from I'm trying to keep an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► mind and learn to you know evolve and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► adapt you go straight from that to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► yeah a flip-flopper or somebody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► without those without those true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► developing you're not ready to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► leader yet because you're still figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► you're still figuring it out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► right and to get back to us when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► have it all figured out that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► exactly right and and and and the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► that we the idea that there is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► thing right i mean they're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► our experts about mollusks you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► it they just not only have they studied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► valves all the valves they know all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► valves you get your other valves but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► they also get them you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► like they feel they they have a they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► were just made to know about mollusks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► and they you know they rise to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► of their field but but they have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► constrained realm of knowledge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► they know about a thing they know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► that's also true in the realms of public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► policy and law and you know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► people that are just expert tort lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► and there are people that are expert a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► transportation engineers and and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► that would we talked about this when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► went on that USO tour where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► these lieutenant Colonel's that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► experts in being a lieutenant colonel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► the US Air Force like you know so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► more I mean you as a kid you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► identify plane shapes you know planes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► you know more about ships and planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► then certain probably ninety percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► americans but you know less about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► specifics than any of the people on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► base right way way less about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► certain you know like I walked in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► those bases and I was like so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► that m60 and everybody laughed we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► haven't used as a 30-year yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► right just like shit but you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► what happens is that you take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► lieutenant colonel in the US Air Force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► who knows absolutely everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► being a lieutenant colonel in the US Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► Force and you put him up against and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► then he decides to run for the US House [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► of Representatives and he's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► against somebody who you know let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► isn't even an artist but let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► is somebody who's had his run-up series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► of a you know a series of successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► cross-country bicycle racer and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► in a father of four and and a member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► lieutenant-colonel just looks more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► impressive he just looks and seems more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► capable because he's achieved this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► status and this expertise but in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► know in fact he just he just knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► very constrained world you know and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► and the generalist the the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► is you know the woman that came up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► put herself through law school and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► decided not to be a lawyer but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► decided to be a chef and then she worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► as a chef for a while and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► bought a hotel and then she decided you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► know she sold the hotel and and decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► it's like that is the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► interest me like like she's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► representative because the lieutenant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► colonel is going to get into the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► Congress and he's gonna he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► succeed insofar as the Congress runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► like the Air Force and and and then he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► going to try to modify the Congress to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► be more like the air force because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► that's the thing is how to run because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► that's the thing and that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► and within the context of becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► lieutenant colonel in the Air Force you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► it's the rare individual and I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► intellectually flexible there but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► the air force or the prosecutor's office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► or the I mean it even even the Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► Club like they have institutional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► character and if you spend your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► career in those places you just you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► not you're discouraged from remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► flexible you're encouraged to to harden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► around those core values that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► people seem really principles even right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► i mean right they they start to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► start to bleed over into the areas of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► like FX where it seems like well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► person's incredibly ethical they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► never deviated from the from the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► the party line of of the organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► that they represent and so so we we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► and I i find somebody who has done 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► different things and kind and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► you know I just I think I intrinsically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► trust a person like that more because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► they they just bring actual you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► Brian I guess it's back to the breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► versus depth question but like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► have a way our culture to to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► breadth of experience in a in a in am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► you know with with a similar yardstick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► as depth of experience you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► can't put the two side-by-side and do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► yeah I i I'm gonna take the personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► angle on this which is and state the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► obvious which is that I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► what we as people with something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► concerns us as people is like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► talking about how like we like we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► like to think that a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► self-doubt is very healthy because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► means it doesn't mean that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► believe in things it means you're open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► perceptions could be wrong sometimes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► that you can't trust your own intellect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► in an unchanged state to always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► correct like that sounds like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► that a reason intellectual adult person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► would happily do as part of having you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► know a life of the mind in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► the truth is that most of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► embarrassed about being wrong and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► fearful of being seen being wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► candidates and leaders but we also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► talk about our parents we don't want our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► parents to be wrong or to be unsure or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► to be emotional or to be you know influx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► you know I remember my mom get a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► haircut me crying for two days you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► and and so when you look at a leader you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► know part of being a leader is having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► that kind of resolution to what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► self-doubt they have to say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► that sounds like it'll be true forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► and could be you know carved in stone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► yeah and I'm starting to have some it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► some new insight and I think it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► to get real inside that this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► you think I mean that like honestly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► a way that was the way that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► taught to think and the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► talked like recapitulates this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and it's one of the it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► reasons that more diversity in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► office is just intrinsically healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► because not all cultures have that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► Authority authoritative voice there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► lot you know I've been going around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► community meetings for the last several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► months and sitting in the room and on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► folding chair and kind of just listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► to the way different communities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► Seattle talk to each other and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► it's weird because being sometimes being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► the only white guy in the room there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► a little bit of the Heisenberg a yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► even your presence there changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► yeah just changes the changes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► little bit but i'll but i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► probably a lot initially but then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► everybody gets comfortable with me being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► there or or they realize like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► that I'm not a white demon and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► conversation starts to heat up or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► starts to move around the room in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► in an electrical way you I realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► other other communities just don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► the same way that is that they that each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► other do or that you know certainly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► the normal room full of Seattle white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► people talk and there's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► opportunity for people to say it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► real-time say like you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► just convinced me I was wrong and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► and you know and nobody like leans over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► and puts a hand on their shoulder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► goes right on man you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► it's part of the conversational flow so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► so yeah it's a i think i think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► the solutions to that to this problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► is greater diversity of of thinking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► but all I feel like it's this though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► has infected american cultural life in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► way that's going to be hard to to rattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► out in making an argument here in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► next couple years but I'm definitely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► surprised and continue to be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► at how much institutional hostility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► there was directed at the idea that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► that a generalist had a had value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► relative to you know that the the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► that keep coming up or like pragmatism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► and and incremental ism almost I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► that I don't think they would use those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► words to describe themselves but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► realpolitik that the idea that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► need to get done a certain way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► can't nothing can happen fast it all has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► to you know it all has to proceed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► according to this pace and that somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► understand and is actually dangerous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► know that the idea that you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► somebody loose in City Hall in there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► there like floppy juggalo clown have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► run down the hall and say like free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► money for everybody you know and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► may legislate yeah and it would just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► like they have to take they have to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► the new council person down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► basement and him with rubber truncheons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► until they you know until they pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► clarence thomas and just sat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► bench for the next 25 years without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► saying anything listen just vote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► Italian guy sitting next to just vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► with him who um but I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► something comforting about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► allies agreed to you know that we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► have to like state that we agree like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► you think about that the two I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► matter it's still true today because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► have many many job interviews but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► know to the two kind of canonical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► questions that always get asked in a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► there's one that we say to somebody what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► is your biggest internet positive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► what's the thing you think you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► really bring to our team and the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► so then there's the the pantomime where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► that's a poser let me really think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► that for a minute because of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► everybody knows they're gonna get asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► that question a job interview and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► say well whatever you say something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► well you know if you work really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► but I'm also really diligent ah and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► a good listener and you say all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► things that you know they want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► that's really interesting good listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► let me a second question let me let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► shake it up a little bit what would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► say is your biggest negative that you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► really like your new well well i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► tell you sir I was not prepared for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► that's a poser let me think about it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► a minute i guess i'd say if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► sometimes I probably work too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► oh you guys I that's super interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► answer i appreciate your candor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► sharing that with us today and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► is like everybody knows those questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► are going to get asked everybody knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► mean that like what what the fuck do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► think that person's gonna say well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► didn't want you to find out that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► got let go from the last three jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► because i keep masturbating into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► coffee pot I'd say that's probably in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► the end of the day my biggest negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► is a common coffee and then oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► that's super interesting thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► no you got to say something cuz you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► you said something you actually said are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► well sometimes my social anxiety is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► crippling that it's very difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► me to even make it to work and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► answer the phone for a week sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► it's probably a negative and it's honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► but now not only you're not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► that job but you are the biggest weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► and loser because you actually answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► the question you know but default I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► isn't that kind of similar to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► you know I mean when people ask these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► kinds of questions I don't know for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► reason Jesse raising arizona what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► think well I kind of a question is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► I'm actually I'm actually drop in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► audio here but there's the scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► he is at length finally in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► parole board again and the one goes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► the people like you hi that name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► called recidivism repeat offender not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► no sir that's one bonehead name the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► me anymore you're not just telling us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► what we want to hear no sir no way cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► well then i guess i am telling you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► you want to hear all I didn't we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► yes sir ok and that's like isn't that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► what can you actually say in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► like that because you're you're damned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► yeah not unless round is funny it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► rocky place for my senior find no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► purchase but uh tell me Merlin what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► the last job interview went to the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► job interview that I went to for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► position at the company describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► describe it you you either way he's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► single words there was a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► Merlin man slipped his hair down to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► his tie on and I did I would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► dippity-do in and I think it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► look like gordon gekko carried your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► little uh carried your little binder my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► beliefs and your latest my day-timer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► SAT you sat on a chair in a lobby with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► leg swinging till somebody came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► said uh Merlin Mann and you'll and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► that's me that's me that whatever um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► let's see the last last real job that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► had that was close to a real job my last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► actual real according to Hoyle job that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► I got was in 1999 it was a breeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► it was kind of a breeze because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► gotten my friend of mine had basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► got me this interview they knew that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► was a really good fit for what these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► guys needed and I i met with the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► engineer who ended up being one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► favorite bosses of all time and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► went pretty well but that was super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► unusual most of my job interviews the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► ones that i can remember we're just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► just awful just awful because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► know i think you know what the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► that I know in the companies that I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► with there's been a huge trend you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► especially in the in this age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► computer maths there's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► interest in really putting effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► and to like find the right person for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► the company and without getting into too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► much detail I think there's been a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► revolution thinking about how you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► you hire to get the culture you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► whereas most of jobs for the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► positions i was at was more like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► this person left now we need a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► person and somebody would be sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► there and flipping through papers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► their desk you know why you're while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► you're trying to make a pitch and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► sent out resumes and you go through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► that donkey drill but I've had some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► those that were just never forget going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► tallahassee democrat the paper and ink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► web stuff there and I just remember i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► like that was sent into the person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► office to like wait for them to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► and it was just it was so dismal it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► like something out of Brazil and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► endo on the top of the file cabinets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► I'll never forget this image they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► burgundy sort of garnet and gold style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► FSU colors hat they had a baseball cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► coach and all I had to do was look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► that and I felt like I could already see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► the off-site meeting where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► managers got have to said coach because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2038">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► everything's going to be different now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► you know and like real paradigmatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► different and it was it was a shitshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► is it is a terrible terrible interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► and of course I spoke my mind I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► what I really thought about things and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► didn't end up getting the job but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► guess i am telling you what you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► hear then okay then I'll do is charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► companies fifteen dollars for a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you would do that for ten dollars an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► where do I begin where do I even begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► why are you charging them in either at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► the grandson of $15 Ryu charging only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► fifteen dollars like what's get anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► possibly get out of anything for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► amount of money and why do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► why don't you just just hire a monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► with a paintbrush like anyway know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► so with the last real job do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► job at the newsstand I did for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► see this is also the changing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► the way we work changing so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► move away from what I've called Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► Scarry jobs to like you know knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► worker jobs were a lot of us working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► freelance or contract or temporarily or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► i I don't know that many people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► have had the same job for five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► it's worth the work doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► anymore working at the newsstand was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► absolutely a Richard Scarry job it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► like you know here's how you get a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► yeah here's the grocer and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► painter and here's the newspaper guy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► stop in and you buy some bubblegum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► you get a newspaper and that world just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► feels completely gone i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► there are still florists but got we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► a lot of books for you know we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► lot of children's books that were that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► are like it in German because of who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► are and so many of the German children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► books are in that Richard Scarry vein of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► just because there's so much of Germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► that really prides itself on that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► write the little town and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► chocolatier and there's the pretzel guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► and and the you know the man with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► hammer and the blue hat that comes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► hammers things for you that's hammer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► meister that's how my sister but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► last job I like interviewed for where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► put on a tie i went down to see first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► bank which he first was then purchased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► by bank of america and became one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► you know one of the bank of america was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► absorbed right became part of that board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► but throughout my whole life as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and up until you know up into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► mid-twenties see first was like the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► Seattle bank see first pre pre in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► washington mutual was still was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► kind of a scrappy upstart bank see first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► was the was where the the old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► kept their money like national bank of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► Alaska is in Alaska for those Alaskans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► listening anyway I went to see first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► i got a job in their claims wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► was that it was there you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► had a they had a lot of diversification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► as a bank and it was like it was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► loan their loan department and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► would take you know take loans out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and present collateral for those loans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► so you know we had to have pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► their boat two pictures of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► property pictures of their windmill or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► there you know where they're like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► farm or whatever it was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► trying to get you know that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► using as collateral to to get a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► loan to do something and I worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► that office and I went in and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► it was very much like mid nineties kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► of happy talk office interview and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► really I i really had competing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► competing polls in me at that point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► my life I I was you know was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► struggling i was still drinking I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► still living pretty rough in in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► kind of you know living a pretty rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► trade life at night and I and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► like I needed to get straight i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► yeah you talked about this before where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► you went through a phase where you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► like am I going to be this like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► my what is my life it seems like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► sort of asking like so you know am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► going to be this am I gonna be that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► that weird experience where you drink on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► the guys boat yeah yeah yeah yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► this was a different bank you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► felt like go straight right go get a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► in a bank because they were kind when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► some of these places you feel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► tantalize with this whole like the ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► today they make a decision are you ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► that's right that's right i mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► start working at a bank and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► um you can become one of the rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that the those compactly competing poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► of like do you live a life that is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► you do you live an ethical life you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► a rewarding life or do you live a life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► where you are making money and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► living a life where you're making money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► and and you want to and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► retain your humanity inside yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► somehow then your outward life becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► sort of suit of armor and animated suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► collecting a treasure and then at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► certain point you take off the suit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► and then you have a pile of treasure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► then you can do good in the world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► then you can live freely and i was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► able to sustain it but you know yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► went and sat in a job interview and told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► them that I was a diligent worker who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► believed in who believed in keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► things alphabetized I very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► particular I'd say my biggest negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► it's going to be hard to get me to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► yeah you know one of the things about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► as I really like to go back into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► disorganized files and and straighten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► them up get them up get them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► like when I have some free time I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► like to think of it of it is free time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► like to think of it as opportunities to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► go file time and fucked and and get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► into the files and really straighten him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► and I and actually that's not wrong like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► I do like to sit and make sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► that the that the blue copy is the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► piece of paper in every file and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► blue copy ends up the fourth piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► paper in a file i can feel it I can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► it across the across the office floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► and I'll go find that file and I'll move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► that blue paper from fourth to third to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► get everything back straight with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► world but there's something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► satisfying about that in the same way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► tagging your mp3's or something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► something very satisfying about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► this known amount of work with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► little physical actions and that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► engaging stuff it is it is and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► and to get all caught up and have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► the file i want and what's great about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► job like that is you're sitting on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► stool and some harried a loan officer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► comes in with their time I ask you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► says I can't find the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► amazing clots file and I'm like oh can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► find the amazing class file huh who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► working on it he goes I don't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► don't know but Brandon I think had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► for a while and I'm like followme and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► then I would walk across the the trading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► floor and all the typewriters were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► and the phones were ringing and this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► know in this sales guy or this blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2539">TS</a>]
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00:46:25 ◼ ► the house my kid comes over and starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► talking about something or other and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► said oh you know my dad was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► expert at that and we talked about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► dad a lot and she was like you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► dad and kind of looked thoughtfully and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► I was like you know what we have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► really sat down and looked at pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2806">TS</a>]
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00:46:55 ◼ ► want my dad to just kind of turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► ghost in her mind right right so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► upstairs and I found a bin of my dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► photographs and I brought the pin down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► and I said sit with me and we'll look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► some pictures and even in doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► realized that the novelty of a box full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► of pictures uh it had been it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► long enough that the this was very new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► idea that I was going to open this box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► hard photographs write because usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► when we look at pictures we sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► look at them on a device and so we start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► going through pictures and a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2854">TS</a>]
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00:47:50 ◼ ► an enthusiastic photographer and easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2870">TS</a>]
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00:49:39 ◼ ► photographs and what's great about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/2979">TS</a>]
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00:50:15 ◼ ► photographs that that even the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► looks at and just like I wonder what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► we looking at is that a train is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► is that a person is it a visit dishes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► I can't I can't I can't tell but and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► very reluctant to throw any of them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► because even even worse gonna get even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► bunch of out-of-focus pictures of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► know of a like of the tide coming in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► whatever I i still i see the hand of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► dad I feel him and I feel him in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► and I'm just like you know these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► these these means something to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► but also i have a box of photos and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► though most of them will not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► anything to her like it's a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► it's a they are think there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► you can put your hands on and right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► in my computer life right i have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► computer i'm talking to you on which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► made in 1998 i have not updated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► operating system since 2001 what and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► know what else we've talked we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► about this mac before right this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► it's a love heart fluctuation it's a g3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► the g3 mcintosh who uh but i feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► scared right now there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► 10,000 photographs on this computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► i don't i'm not confident i can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► anywhere else like I don't know where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► where they would be safe people say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► you know the hard drives die if i put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► I still am NOT confident that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► safe and then all of a sudden I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► incurring a forty dollar a month charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► I can't i don't think i can put them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► my laptop my phone is slowing down from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► being overburdened with accidental voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► accidental audio recordings that somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► keep migrating into my text field like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► what is the advantage of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► understand i like we accidentally hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► yeah and all of a sudden you're sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► a voice text that's a horrible feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► what is that feature why would anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► use that if you want to you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► leave somebody a phone message you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► still do that why would you send a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► anyway so there's that and so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► what I have your ID 18,800 photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► oh my goodness on my on my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► which I feel everyday is sending me very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► clear messages that like I'm about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► I'm an old old old friend i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► a 2.16 gigahertz intel core and i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► to i want to go to sleep now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► earned her I burned my rest and I go yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► yes yes that's fine i agree with you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► shuffle off this mortal coil you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► go to live on a farm but please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► take my 18,800 photos with you and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► I'm and i fear i fear i fear for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► future whenever I don't have a I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► have a box full of photos I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► this thing you know it's not and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► not be a particularly interesting topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► to go into detail here but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► ways that we can help you with that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► John siracusa was here to tell me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► to tell me something when i really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► happy to help you with um some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► but i think there's a philosophical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► issue here in that I mean part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► also that you think about the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► that we went through in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► workflow don't term I think the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► that we used to do have been first i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► been forbidden from saying the word ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► yeah you told me about that and sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► that's a shame it's a good word ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► ping ping ya ya can't stand and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► straightforward which was that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► there's a cycle you know loop basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► where you drop off film to be processed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► right you'd buy new film while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► there because usually in my case it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► Eckert drugs in Florida you would get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► discount when you bought film while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► you're having a process and so but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► just keep doing that you just keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► in you you know go in and drop off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► film you go back to your pictures drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► it off and so on and so forth and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► as soon as you got that you picked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► to get the little envelope full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► photos you flip through it you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► you know those at the very least now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► had a box full of envelopes of photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► which made it like it didn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► you could look at would look at them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► the time but you didn't know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► were and that this is any more secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► I mean my god one hard copy of a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► and the negative in the same envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► like how secure is that that's true if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► your house caught on fire it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► alright or in my case a leak in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► basement took out like almost all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► family photos is a real bummer that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► have like one solid much together block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► of photo now it's it's just it's too sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► even think about know but but that arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► but but that but there was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► about that we're like you'd have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► copy now you know some of the snapshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► from the sixties and seventies have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► aged well they've lived their real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► weird-looking me and that's where some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► stuff in the seventies and eighties even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► worse with my kodak dis camera but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► like haha of course you a discount on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► this camera you were always an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► about later I got an elf but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► know but in that case though there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► something there's two parts to that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► one is that like you knew where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► photos were there in the photo box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► the other one was at any point you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► just kind of grabbed him and flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► through them and that's something you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► the thing is now i have a like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► parent I took you know hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► thousands of photos of our kid and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► oh yeah it's really weird but then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► I signed up the funny thing is when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► signed up for google photo which is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► option I want to look at it pushes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► photos up into into the code but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► looks at all your photos and first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► all I'd like groups them in interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► ways that makes it all searchable so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► can search for cake or guitar and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► will actually find it because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► google and they're amazing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► really neat but then what also is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► is like it will find if you did like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► know you would you like in the blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► mode we go 10 gonna take like 10 photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► or something it may automatically makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► animated gifs out of those which sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► silly but there's something so cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► about going like you know at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► kicked myself for being such a dummy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► taking 50 photos of a baby but it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► into an animated gif was already going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► oh if you're on at least iOS 8 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► when you hold down the button just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► holding the button down and say it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► take multiple photos for as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► be careful because your phone is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► full but be then it will also help pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► out what it thinks is the best photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► which is pretty good at like really yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► it's in focus and try it works last mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► yeah but didn't but so what's but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► the second part to me is what's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► Google photo thing this is not a butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► plug for them but it was good with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► no you don't trust right now I I trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► I I don't cost money you can trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► um but what's needed is then so it jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► on all your photos you can upload from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► your phone you can upload you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► right now today and upload it like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► have 26 gigs of photos and videos on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► phone it's it's asinine so but they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► hear what I'm trying to get at length is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► then what's really cool it says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► going you going to go to photo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► suddenly it's made its made movies it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► made animations it's made little sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► and you to re-experience all your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► in this thing so like I'm great at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► taking pictures i'm just i'm not i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► great at storing them and I'm not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► looking at them and like that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► the important thing is remember to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► at him is good now is google photo going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► to take your photos and use them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► advertisements to your friends that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► not the plan as I understand what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► will do is use it to contribute to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► corpus of data about photo recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► stuff so that's why when you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► Google photo you go into a search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► chair and it finds everything with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► chair in it or you do a search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► poster and finds posters it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► bananas you and facial recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► because I mean that's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► again corpus corpus the corpus its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► ramifications but right now i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► because we can help you with that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► help you with that but you know photos I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► mean like music or changing so much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► mean the way people take so many photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► but i always wonder what they do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► some people are great about it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► like old school and they're like print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► things out and send it to people are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► know doing things like that i just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► all these photos and I hardly ever look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► ok now let me let me walk you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► this yeah I have a I have not updated my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► operating system and so uh the browser's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► are no longer supported so how do i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► to Google photos without updating my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► see this is the conundrum i do not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► to i'm afraid if i update the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► well we can talk about this which I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► this is better for offline probably but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► what unit are you kidding me this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► the most scintillating radio and welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► to live computer support from five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► ago with John Roderick first you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► going to do something that's called back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► up what I don't confuse I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► confusing and it sounds scary but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► not it doesn't actually do anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► I what I go I I try and read how to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► backup and they start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► things that I don't understand just end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► yeah and I end up like oh maybe what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► well you have a guitar there to your e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► hello government all the way across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► country little Jam a lot of times we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► this guy can blues we can help you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► that but you know everything comes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► oh my god that you at you you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► there's nothing that doesn't cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► psychic I just you know the psychic cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► of opening that bin and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► out-of-focus pictures of my that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► father took over the years and realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► realizing that just as if you are raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► in a house where everybody smoked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► cigarettes you do not know that a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► full of cigarette smoke is unusual and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► bad until you get to be an adult and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► look back and you're like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► everyone in my house was smoking menthol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► cigarettes all day and night in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► entire childhood and that's this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► true of me but i have i have friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► it was always at least one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► smoking there was a little bit of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► when they had their last smoke in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► yes in bed snuffed it out and went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► sleep with the smoke would just settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► but other than that there was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► someone smoking somewhere all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► yeah and and you know i would go over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► friends houses and walk in the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► it was just like oh my god i'm inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► like a diseased lung but they had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► they had no other reality right and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► reality growing up was that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► were constantly being photographed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► were cut my dad and I went at the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► thing that you described we went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► photoshop where my dad knew all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► people behind the counter he knew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► owner he would hand over five rolls of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► film he would buy five rolls of film he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► would get the he would get the photos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► from the people you know they'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► oh Dave Roderick and then go get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► pictures and bring them out and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► would get would go out into the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► we would look at the photographs and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► yes absolutely as a child I had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► context to know that my dad was a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► photographer so my experience was you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► out and sit in the car and sort through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► sometimes 80 photographs and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► when when when you could win that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► technology arrived where you could check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► yeah that was that was the eighties man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► we always get double prints yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► somewhere in the eighties the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► people realize like hey you know we sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► of like the the extra meat for a dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► of fatality exactly and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► have you can give the good ones two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► friends and my dad always got doubles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► and so we would sit and and go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► these pictures and it was just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► well it seems like maybe the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► fired in what was still in the bag on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► that one and then this is the Shh shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► out the window of a moving car of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► bone polls admit there's somebody oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► here's one of a blurry dog that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► like a person over there but i had no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► had no critical faculty to see like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► dad you're terrible at this stop or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► take a class and so my reality was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► shaped by these photographs like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► understood i understood human experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► to be something that now I realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► isn't right that this is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► that you're enacting some well first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► all that is incredibly hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► photograph and that um because debt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► know dad didn't flip through these and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► be like well wasted another role like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► you know now is that was his normal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► it was his normal too and so so ah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► had a i mean i can't i can't begin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► describe how my own memories of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► are shaped by having relived them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► through photographs of them that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► like you were taken by mr. Magoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► like those but you know that way when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► you look at a photograph of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► that happened a week ago and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► photograph kind of solidifies the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► a little bit like oh that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► happened everything everything you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► that look like the cover of shoegaze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► yeah right everything exactly right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► like I that's why i responded so well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► my bloody valentine i was just like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► guitar i think that was a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► it's just like it's just like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► it's like right before my dad took any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► kind of pictures he went and and dip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► lens of his camera in the top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► birthday cake we're ready now let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► I've got frosting all over the lens let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► go and and so yeah I but but so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► shaped my perception right so profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► and and now you know and it turns out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► sister is a brilliant photographer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► have no idea you know she was in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► thirties before she ever really picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► up a camera and planted anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► from the first time I saw a photograph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► by her I was like oh my god you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► she's got an eye because she and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► friends you know she and her friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► went around the world together and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► all work we're taking photographs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► same things and the other two are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► very very good photographs of things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► then my sister's photo of the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► moment which is be framed in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► emotional tension and you know just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► was just like where did I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► that was lurking inside my little sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► and I'm not a bad photographer but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► like oh I wish I could I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► sit my dad down and just go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► these photos but the thing was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► completely resistant to the idea that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► wasn't great at everything so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► like dad what are you going for here oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► that's right who I don't know what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► 14 years and I know and you made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► think when you met you had your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► monologue a while back about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► important it is to take and post selfies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► just because it's a good idea and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► been thinking about like the way photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► have changed and like now I take I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► photos of funny signs I take I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► photos of things that I see that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► amuse me I have a handful of photos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► my daughter doing things that are cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► and one that we don't do as much as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► the group photo i miss the group photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► yeah that you know I think I I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► really get a stake in the ground get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► yeah the group photo because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► always that's so important it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► it's always just like selfie lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► it's very seldom where somebody stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► back and everybody and if you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► everybody's got redeye yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► everybody's holding up a plastic egg cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but I mean you know a family events and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► stuff like that it's usually not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► ok everybody let's do a group photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► because that's dorky like why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► do that but like you're so I'm so glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► I've got some of those you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► me too there are there are parties to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► college parties where at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► remember looking at the group photo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► being like oh you know what you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► did I think it was why did I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► funny to stick it lit cigarette up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► nose that kind of pretty funny kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► ruins gonna ruin the photo like I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► so wanted to be cherry chase in 1979 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► was just like a cigarette in your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► hair look at me look at me but then now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► i look at that group photo and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► 25 people in it and all i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► all the people in the background I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► just like oh right that girl you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► she said she went on to know her sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► died or you know like there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► there's all those memories that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► group photo allows I don't know as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► were sitting here talking i found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► photograph of me and and a woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► lives in Barcelona who was like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► like an enormous friend of the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► winters one of our great boosters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► she was our tour manager she was our pal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► and then right at the end after you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► after years of touring together and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► came to Seattle and live with me for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► while and like she was really one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► number one Rock friends we went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Barcelona sort of the last maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► second-to-last her last trip to Spain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► that we did and we played a huge show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► was a it was like a festival in downtown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► barcelona and that there were two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► headliners and one was the long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► and the other was a british band not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► babes in toyland was the girls girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► no no girls just a bunch of old white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► guys English man english band my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► preap their old older older than us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► great one of the great pop bands your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► pop-pop pure pure guitar pop posies know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► that that's an American band that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► in English and record them playing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► Spain now you but you know you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► I'm talking about and why would I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► finally get to the name it's gonna be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► embarrassing on now we're keeping all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► uh-oh older older people older but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► notnot tongues old like popular in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► eighties nineties and his band as Bush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► not Bush not that grunge they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► it they were like guitar pop posies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► style is shared but not but better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► the poses and I hate to say that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► loud but you know what much wow and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► have a name like children in schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► from thailand children's schools found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► that sounds wait that's not right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► jersey been I they were the Teenage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► Fanclub holy shit i love teenage fanclub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► I know you do and I do two teenage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► was always there so that so that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► give you a sense of how our career in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► Spain with josh fanclub didn't open for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► them they were the headliners on Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► night we were the headliners on Saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► night while used to be on Roderick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► was big it was a it was a big deal he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► was dead a little mushy gun teenage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► fanclub you know that they like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► really those guys really blew me away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► and I was you know I mean it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► night they made my first favorite record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► of the nineteen nineties everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► my greatest rock songs of all time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► hard for me to say that I'm a super fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► because i just took three minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► remember their name but of all of of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► of the all the great all great bands but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► but of all the bands of that style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► that time like they really did destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► me and anyway so just digest that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► name-drop me to give you some sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► what that when we arrived in barcelona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► on that tour it was like are you kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► me like the posters all over the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► and it was like teenage fanclub the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► winters like co-headlining this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► festival that was taking place on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► around the city and we were playing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► the like the plaza may or in the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► it outdoors in the center of town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► saturday night it was it was basov for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► me and great david bazan was there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► don't and played on the same stage with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► us and we jumped out i think in played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► up as his backing band for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► while I had really long hair at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► maybe was missing a tooth but our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► friend the woman who had been with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► through thick and thin at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► tour which was you know which had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► know it had been a couple of week to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► which had been with us for every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► night she said okay well you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► your flight is tomorrow morning and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► you know we're not want it all shakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► out and she never did well she absconded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► you with with the with a big will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► ultimately was a big bag of money and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► went back and forth and it was i was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► betrayed and it was just so devastated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► like but you're our friend you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► our friend she was like oh I just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► some you know I'll get it to you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► there was a lot of like nine months of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► sort of like what's your bank account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► number I'll wire it tomorrow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► right and and i just found a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► she and I like sitting you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► kind of like leaning on me in a cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► somewhere in Valladolid and I felt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► sentimental even as I'm sitting talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► to you about google photos and I sent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► to her I haven't communicated with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► send it to her sort of without comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► so we'll see we'll see how i got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► spanish threat it was sent it to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► wrapped in a newspaper route wrapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► wrapped around a fish wrapped around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► after what but I got a father to DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► we'll see what happens you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMMsUts/4433">TS</a>]