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00:00:36 ◼ ► just got to my office and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► it's a graphic novel called the Divine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► it was a gift from ryan cons Brooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/43">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► he said that it is a it would be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► book for Roger on the line because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/51">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► technician and some mysticism how men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that who isn't that a thoughtful gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► that's incredibly violent man i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► yeah graphic novels that should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► been written by us or about us provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► oh you know I have the you know Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► graphic novel i think it still is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/82">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► uh-huh but it would be it would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► be 7,000 pages we can crowdsource that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► it could be like when they remade Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► Wars to see a scene at a time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► everybody does a page well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► hopefully find 7,000 people but it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► be like american splendor whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► people would get mad at him and stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► drawing his comic book and then somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► else would start and set the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► don't know i always assumed you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► like a pretty easy like a pretty prickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/116">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► particularly the oh yeah all the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► I you know I know him i've looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► American Splendor I haven't spent much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► time with that I mainly know him from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► Letterman yeah where he was just here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► think amongst the early Letterman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► standouts he was a special stand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► because he I mean I think we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► about this before but unlike somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► like Charles Grodin I don't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► a bit i think he genuinely hate Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► yeah sure sure he hated being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► there's a lot there's a lot about Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► to hate but yeah he he hated he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/151">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► much hate in the world some get em John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► so much hate I'm how do you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► Dennis Eichorn he talked about that as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► corn uh-huh i don't i don't know i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► not familiar with this works so similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► situation all of his all of his workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► collaboration with other artists and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► his comic books have no there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► real like unifying artistic are unifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► artist let's say right and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► it's autobiographical comics but over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► the course of multiple volumes you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► the you get all these different peoples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► take on what he looks like and what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► world looks like it's a it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► heart becomes like another character you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► know comic fans but you know also comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► creators get our rap you know for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► nerds understandably but the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► I know who make comics their work what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► blows me away because I mean the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► of work that people managed to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/214">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► incredible but what you're describing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► is how the process generally works which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► is there's one person who writes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► script and there's another person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► maybe even another country who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► the drawings and that's not including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► the people who in caller eight you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► that ends up having a huge impact on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► it looks but it takes a ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► amount of collaboration like down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► point where like you think the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► done but now you have to reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► available space for the word balloons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► oh word balloons but it's invite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► it's you know it's it's it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► know it's one thing to collaborate on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/249">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► novel or something but I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► just all words and you can kind of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/252">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► it sound the same but I don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► get some an amazing process i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► to someday not today probably but i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► relationship with comics which which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► know it's kind of a bit that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► you make fun of the comics people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► you also seem to have had a fair number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► of grown-up funny books you've liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► and you know I i am a product of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► comics i am i am a man made almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► entirely of comics this from your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► at the end you stand no no my whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► I mean I was a kid in comics I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► preteen in comics I was a teen in comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► but i but i always was i always felt ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► you I always felt out out of the gang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► not I didn't like the comics that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► did--like i couldn't find any money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/305">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► uh-huh you know I couldn't find a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► other eleven-year-old that like trots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► and Bonnie and I was starved for trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► and Bonnie I wanted every bit of trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► that's funny but nobody had ever heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► of trucks and Bonnie and no band that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► just wasn't a world than any other kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► wanted to share and sherry Fleniken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► that's rides i actually I actually wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► her one time asking if she would send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► well it looks really old timey longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► oh wow look at this is in National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► Lampoon's that right was in the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► Lampoon which wich eleven-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► should not be allowed access to all boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► that's it wasn't too long after eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► when I discovered national and pin yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► and-and-and so that was so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/359">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► eleven-year-olds twelve-year-olds uh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► mean i was into Lord of the Rings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► anyone but i also just was just was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► crazy about national lampoon couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► find a single other kid that had ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► heard of it let alone cared about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► so the comics were always another comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► just like music right i mean i make fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► of music people in them just so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► so many like obviously strong things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/391">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► completely made of music I just was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► I don't mean the mainstream i mean i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► outside of the alternative mainstream I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► mean right you and I were always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/409">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► to be alternative people but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► problem is ru ru in the are you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► stream or you out of the stream and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► you're if you're if I always dreamt of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► being like alt but right in the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► alt the alt aesthetic right and my taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► was like right in the center and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► thought all the things that were cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► were cool and I thought all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► that were uncool uncool and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/438">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► alternative culture person but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► thought that alternative culture was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► stupid but it took I mean the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► it's ai ai ai ai no this is so obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► and I say it all the time but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► really can never get over how different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► everything is today in in one important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► way he was talking to somebody about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► difficult it was to engage with anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► that wasn't in the mainstream but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► difficult it was to even find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► yeah that you had to go i mean like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► me like Rolling Stone magazine seemed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► little bit radical for a time I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► eventually that would become like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► maximum rock'n'roll or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► even that's like that's like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► scene that you can get more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► nationally it's you you have a rabbi to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► like kind of make a tape for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► explain what your options even were yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and the and the you know the problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► us you and me our age is that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► there was boot that the kind of boomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► alternative culture fabulous very freak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► brothers wii magazine all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/503">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► we've talked about but that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► belong to us we were too young for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► and so you would discover them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► you discover a pile of of of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/516">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► magazines that had naked pictures in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► them but also a lot of cultural stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/526">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► comics and were like underground comix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► and you know like even the stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► reviews in oui magazine were interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► right it's not it was before was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► lad magazines had digress to just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/544">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► advertising you know you'd read the read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/549">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► well-written contentious argumentative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► so but but it was all because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/563">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► because they're their vision of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► future there nineteen seventies vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► of the future was that you know smoking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► pot was something that a that a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► cultured cool intelligent people did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► and they spent their money on on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► stereo systems and their clothes mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► was like pre war on drugs and pre aids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/588">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► it seemed like the future and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► seems like this is what the district [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► cool people are going to be doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► and this situation the seventies as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► being people not even realizing how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► it was still the sixties in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► ways but at the same time eventually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► it realizing how much like the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► it was becoming yeah right it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► friend and as a ten-year-old I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► excited initially to get pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► uh-huh but then eighty percent of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► magazines were articles and when you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/626">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► with them long enough you know it was 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► years old was before I knew how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► so I just why don't I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► why I wanted pictures of naked ladies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► something i was denied and so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► them and you look at the naked ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► uh-huh and then pretty soon run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► things to do and start reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► articles and and and yet it wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► know that stuff wasn't meant for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► write it was meant for people that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► lived through the sixties or people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► were 22 and and I was 10 and so that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/662">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► when punk rock arrived I was already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► it in a way it was like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► revolutionary and scary to me and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/674">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► compelling but i also was aware two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► the things that you know it punk wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► the first time I heard about prague or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► whatever else you know so it was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► just so lame to be a kid I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► go back and just put myself in a bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► is insufferable but you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► that's ninety percent of what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► program is about how terrible 1977 ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► yeah 80 80 80 was terrible yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/709">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► you know it's it's it's the older you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► get the more you you have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► evaluate like what made a horrible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► like for a long time you think well I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► mmm things would be better if I had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► exposure to things things would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► better i just think i have to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► now I really feel like I just would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► different problems I just would've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/732">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► screwed up in a different way i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► that's that's the dirty little secret of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► being what between the ages of let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► 11 and 17 isn't it has to be a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► yeah and yeah and I did I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► didn't need more information I had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► than I could handle but-but-but comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you know comics saved my life just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► much as they saved anybody else's life i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► just could not abide superheroes who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/755">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► there are so many comics so many acres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► and acres of comics that a then I was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/763">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► I was buried under them just as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► anybody else was but when I popped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► out of that pile waving some mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► thing I'd found and saying look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► is amazing i could not find a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► other kit to share in that with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/780">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► part of that is is being from Alaska i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► think if i was living in ohio i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► have finally found some other weird oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► yeah um a lot of weirdos in Ohio you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/791">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► know what every weirdo i know is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► Ohio you know about Texas and Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► wanna know I i feel like the weirdos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► that I know from Texas and Florida when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► you really get down to it they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► weirdos they are they're adapting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► well they do some weird stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► ultimately like they're the cool normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► people i mean you know i have one friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► from Florida who's who's pretty fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► weird but what it what it really is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► that his dad was really weird and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► been working and he's been working that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► off his whole life but the people i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► from ohio or just generally so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/833">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► the thing right the people in Texas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/837">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► and in California and Florida that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► that I know personally that are weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► when you really dig down into him their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/847">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► regular and I mean that in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► possible way the people from ohio seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► really regular that's why I yeah I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► okay I get what you mean but you dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► down inside of them and they're and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► they are thinking about having sex with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► an octopus who you know what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► them and you and they look at me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► like what are you doing today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► they're just like nothing but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► really thinking about having sex with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► anonymous or something worse since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► made a good case for this and explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► what it's like to be from like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► middle of Pennsylvania where you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► was into certain kind of hair metal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► he's also into his church and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► know he's talked about how weird stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► gets in the suburbs you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/897">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► instantly understood what he meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► even though for me that was usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► actually florida which is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► you don't have enough exposure to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► how weird you really are like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► ever tried to go make a case for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► you're doing to other people like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► you're weird if you're in California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► Florida or Texas work like you'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► lots you'll find a community of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► recalibrate how you should be doing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► yeah you have to be weird on your own in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► ohio well and so yes you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/923">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► weird on your own and also it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► the concentration of people in Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► like you have to be weird on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/933">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► but you are surrounded by people it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► incredibly populous state and not a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► a huge state but really full of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► so even even if you're like farm Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► you know there are farms all around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► there's no sense like like you have out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► in the west where you can go somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► and there's not gonna be anybody right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► and so that that I think is what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/955">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► that like draw the blinds and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► you're weird thoughts and gain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► stuff yeah right we got was first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► heard guided by voices I was like oh boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► there's a tool shed out behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► guy's house that I never want to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► because he's cut he's got nipples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/974">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► drawing on hooks this episode of rock on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/979">TS</a>]
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00:17:57 ◼ ► d.i.y I there there are some comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► artist that I still wish that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► sit down with Dennis I corners one Julie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► Doucette i just wish i could sit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► them for a while and just be friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► we should reach out to them i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► northwest lucky i think i even have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► email address some time but i don't i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► fine I know I know I know I yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► yeah but I feel the same way sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► I'll say hi to people on Twitter and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► it feels incredibly random and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► I'll just say thank you know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► really like that thing you do that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► yeah yeah I was gonna say you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► mean I'm even even know it Brubaker we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► yeah he and i were we were friends next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► we're friends we he lived in seattle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► we were coffee shop pals here here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► yeah we were coffee shop pals and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► girlfriend and one day it was a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► summer day ever told you the story don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► think so hot summer day were sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► around the cafe at brubakers there he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► stays working at levis vest cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► sleeves off hot looking pretty look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► pretty cool and I'm sitting there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► we're both flirting with the coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► and I look over and then and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► learning look at--look it under heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► best animal yet are you are you wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► a shoulder holster and he goes smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► what oh yes well what do you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► you make and closes I'm like well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► it's a hot summer day and we're all not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► wearing any clothes but you are wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► a vest and now i'm looking at it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► wearing a gun and he was wearing a gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► in a shoulder holster and I would I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► and that was not that was not customary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► at the time and I qwizdom on it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► didn't really wanna didn't really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► to talk about it but it but it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► let's just let's just say that the levis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► best was not sufficient cover to also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► wearing a shoulder holster it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► somewhere you kind of want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► notice it was learned it it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► much like wearing a black bra under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► uh-huh and you know but it was the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► nineties we were all trying stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► I'm not sure whether it's still carries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► a gun but early nineties you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► sort of like well Who am I going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► what kind of guy am i going to be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► yeah am I gonna be the shoulder holster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► under Levi's best guy I John data that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► is not something I see every day not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► only that's a silly generous look right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► and I mean this was pre fedora era right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► so you couldn't in 1992 you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► walk around Seattle wearing a fedora you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► uh-huh wouldn't have flown but a but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► shoulder holster huh maybe maybe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► yeah but i had 90 each other pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► and that in the time and it's easier is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► very well-regarded yeah he makes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► of comics and he does he does i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► arguably he did one of the best captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► america's ever and his is none superior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► stuff he did something called the towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► it's really good and it is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► it's really good that you might like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► they're both kinda like no Norrish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► things while the twist nowhere dunno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah he was a like he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► lowlife comics back in the back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► old days and and was he was he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► as an alternative comics guy and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► moved into B into the men in tights or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► her stuff sounds like it's pretty rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► to work for Marvel it's a pretty rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► you mean like rough trade mm well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► know their company they move pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► quick but yeah yeah yeahs something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► it's a lot of work and you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► don't ya the names you hear about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► don't get paid as much as people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► think oh right i mean they're great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► they're artists great and it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► do and it takes a long time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► they get ripped off I wonder I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► there are any other artists that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► relate to that it's kinda like Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► Wrestling that publishing uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► did you know Jason Lutz are you familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► nope but I'll find out J so also great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► great stuff he drew the Drew a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► harvey danger t-shirt for us when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► were in the Harvey dangers but he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► did a graphic novel about um he did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► did a long-running graphic novel called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► jar of fools and there was a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► early stuff took place in a cafe in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► cafe so reading those early novels it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► was easy is a great draftsperson mi wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► these are wonderful and the that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► cafe where I spent every minute of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► early twenties and he drew and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► barista the teachers in his in that cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► that the sort of the barista character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► is a very very good rendition of a vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► of a gal that I was really close with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► and so that was that was one of the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► Mike was being drawn in real time in up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► in and about my actual world and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► a kind of fat you know there's a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► magic element to it that that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► that made it a different kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► but you know that feeling when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► your early twenties or like we are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► are live we are living inside of the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► oh man those moments are so exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah you can get that anytime today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► but I mean like back then that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► really big deal because somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► knew was on the radio like you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► about that for a week more flakes of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► like your neighborhood was mentioned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► ya know a solution that spelled like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► fella plural of the musical instrument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► do rights in the right and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► course Chris where Jimmy Corrigan much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► loved his band but it's actually goes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► William now what William local road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► Corrigan oh I've been to the doctor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► lot lately i was gonna ask you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► that I I as I was sitting here waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► for waiting for you I was sitting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► thinking I wonder if John's sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► this seems like about the time that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► normal seems like with conditions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and whatnot this would be about the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► normally I would be getting sick em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► under these conditions and I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► sort of sick but the conditions are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► extreme that I don't even know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► sickness can gain purchase and me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► listening but I'm i have been going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► uh-huh I've got to various doctors with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► more to come and sort of i won't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► disappointingly but all the doctors seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► to agree that i'm in fine health perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► Hale and Hardy really and and I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► wanting to go to a doctor and have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► there's something really wrong with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► and all these other hacks missed it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► hiding in plain sight you're a very sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► yep but you kind of want that you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► of want somebody to just go it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► is why it's so hard haha I get it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► you have a terrible terrible undiagnosed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► this explains everything this explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► everything yeah i'm always looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► there's a part of me that the the atd a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► part of my brain is like at last we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► this explains every yes you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► extra pancreas like it's beyond rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► it's it it's unprecedented and once we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► take out your your 2nd pancreas then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► will stop making so much biol here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► thing with a man understand John is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► the human body is a lot like the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► of Ohio it's a lot there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► you can't just suddenly have an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► pancreas in ohio you gotta go we gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► that's right you think that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► explain the bile and yet every doctor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► go to says well all your readings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► normal you don't appear to have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► arterial sclerosis or you don't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► have diverticulitis and you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► any of the other like a Victorian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► diseases that used to play your mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► family so I'm not sure maybe you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► eat less and exercise and you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► touch of the graph a little bit Roxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► have you ever considered meditation i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► actually had a couple of doctors say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► recommended meditation shut up and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► give me some kind of diagnosis where AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► yeah and bi don't have to go meditate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► what I want is for you to take something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► well I wouldn't let me just say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► have a lot of Aloha for meditation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► a great thing I'm just tired of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► yeah because yeah okay I know I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► to meditate I can do that but I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► conclusive like an extra organized want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► something where that explains everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► that doesn't explain go meditate does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► not explain everything that's what every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► yeah I keep thinking that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► look at me and they're going to say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► my god one of your lungs is much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► than the other you have you have it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► normal-sized one-on-one time you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► this is extremely unusual do it you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► feel loved more tired than you'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► yeah you sometimes struggle for breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► there you are easy gasping you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► tiny tiny lung we need to get we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► fly you immediately to a clinic in Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► the tiny Lincoln we're at war team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► specialized doctors from around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► world with with the with pins neces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► Boris Karloff beards are going to study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► you will pay you will pay you for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► study and then we'll replace that tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► loan or will not i'm not replace it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► it is a modern miracle is a hit is able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► look at this look at this truck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► shocking state defense but it's rocky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► it's like trying to smoke pipe tobacco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► through a children straw so it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► a vestigial it's really so frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► it's so frustrating but just want I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► want to I just want some kind of I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► want some sort of easy solution what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► it what it is is I won't be i want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► star trek teleporter her that experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► where you turn to return to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► high-pitched ringing and then you re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► assembled somewhere down the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► yeah but through that disassembly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► reassembly i'm on way heavy i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► not yours and I totally know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► alright so i was reading about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► how the teleporter thing works okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► involves Adams sure and molecules or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► something and there and so you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► body and the the body is really about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► the relationship of all these atoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► molecules and what were able to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► shoot that off someplace and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► rebuild it in this other area and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► i hear if I'm getting this right if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► is what I'm thinking it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► restarting your computer you right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► just want you want to turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► it's going to run through all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► checks like your body's got probably got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► some kind of mechanism for teleported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► make sure that everything is right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► are all kinds of tiny little errors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► your genetics that can be fixed with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► exactamundo right i mean just teleport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► me from here to the waiting room where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► yeah that's what I don't need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► anywhere special teleport me from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► to the waiting room and yet at work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► in that process the stream of atoms is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► we're all of the all the time toxicities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► disregards right all of the all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► old tobacco that's still in there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► the undigested meat all of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► all of the genetic errors all of the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► of the unactivated Gene Kelly this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► already a thing me when I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► working on the well-meaning outlet or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► least fake thing I mean given all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► stuff about you know this stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► toxicity units bullshit right there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► the stuff there's no such really such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► thing as toxicity if you are if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► leading a normal life and it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► like the whole idea of like vitamins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► it's like well you know if you're eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► you don't need vitamins and if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► eat vitamins you're just going to piss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► I mean going to walgreens and buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► these things you put in your shoes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► draw the toxicity out of your feet like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that's not actually a thing women is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► that actually think you can get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► basically you get these things they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► kinda like dr. scholl's and you use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► because all you know that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► toxicity goes your feet and so you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► these on and it discolors the mix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► makes things look Brown know it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► of like your candling you know ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► candling really too was all too well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► thank you Eric handling that's just ash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► that's not actually toxicity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► there's nothing that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► everything gold every single gal I data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► during us certain era mid-nineties it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► was the Beatles that it was like peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► beet juice it came right before tattoos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► they were all about your candle and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► would sit me down and stick candles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► my ears and then they would at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► and I would just be like oh my god and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► then they would pull the candles out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► they would always be inconclusive will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► always be like well we didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► that's this is weird is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► ah right right but you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► teleporter idea it's that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► yeah I kind of can't believe there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► already a huge like sham business around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► that if what if you're disassembling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► somebody into Adams you should be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► then to comb those atoms who with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► yeah yeah and then subatomic home right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► and when you stack them back up its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► took all the you took all the hairs out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► little like probably little fibers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► little flecks of dirt maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► of marlboro tobacco in there like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► things it's kinda like a couch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► imagine you have a couch and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► how the couches assembled if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► the couch apart remove all the detritus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► and give it a good cleaning gud scrub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► then you just put the couch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► together the other day I lost my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► and I was like where I would just had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► where the fuck is it then and I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► like it probably fell down behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► couch cushions and I reached down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► underneath the couch cushions and when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► do that i always feel like I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► buck rogers movie and I'm putting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► hand in the stump I'm and I'm reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► around and I'm thinking I'm gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► I'm really a bit by the by the monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► if I don't of course I'm i become just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► going to any jet thing is this like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► stick your hand in the thing and fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► fear is the is the thing you're happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► about forgetting forgetting it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► very mind-killer right is that it about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► well you know in the buck rogers movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► if you stick your hand in there you it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and you get bitten you die but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► stick it in there and don't get bitten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► then maybe you become king of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► Birdman who and king of the Birdman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► kind of always how I imagined i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► would turn out but I stuck my head in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► the back of the couch and I pulled out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► pair of glasses that I have been missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► Oh God and they were my favorite pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► glasses and I remember I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you know the thing about losing a pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► of glasses yet you never remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► you're always trying to trace back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► when did i see that pair of glasses last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► you get you get the era but it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► it's hard to really get even the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► yeah and that but so I remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► remember missing them years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► being like how can i have lost that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► all the pairs that was my that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► fav pair and you remember them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► they were they were early long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► classes and uh I found him and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► and there they were vintage glasses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2098">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► begin with so that kind of that chalky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► discoloration has started to happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► them where the where the where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► plastic is yeah I was like a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► plastic is just starting to just die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► from brittle and it was never intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► it was never intended to last this long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► and here like five or six great years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► these glasses were wasted with them just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► slowly moldering under the couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► I can still wear them and they still are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► great and I'm happy to have them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► but like all those years we could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► tantalizingly just under the seat of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► it's like it's like it's like a dream it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► really I mean it was just it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► there the whole time he just didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► access to it didn't have access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► and so then I'm i'm down in that couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► i'm pulling out crayons and and popcorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► kernels and stuff just like what else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► down here dunes straws markers scissors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► remotes i cannot even first of all I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► ask your question okay so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► times when you gotta do the unthinkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► which is you have to take the cushions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► off something important has been lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► and you must actually searched the couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► is when you sponge your hand into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► space is it moist moist are just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► little moist I think it might achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► well I you know because probably I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► the thing is if we spill something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► know and by that I mean you know get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► kids spill something we do everything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► can it's a very it was an old vintage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► couch when i purchased it in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► nineteen ninety-six so who knows things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► probably 40 years old and is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► material naugahyde naugahyde on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► the surfaces and then it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► got that you lift it up and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► yeah naugahyde backing well yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► not behind Lord we take off the cushions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► the part that the cushions you know rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► on the actual canonical couch is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► you know it's a fiber something right oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► I know I know I like your glasses i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► don't think it was never intended to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► this long i think it might be coughing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► something up a little bit you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► it now has it has formed and I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► I don't know it could be a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► kind of a living room Sarlacc maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► maybe i don't know i don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► happening but I do not like putting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► I've i have dumped entire boxes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► baking soda on there to try and try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► out and it still is a little moist you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► to me like it has become so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► first one of the earliest forms of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► oh right the Venus flytrap is a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► great hunter but has no actual as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► we know no intelligence not yet right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► but it captures its prey just by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► know just the prey just kind of flops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► into the plane and then the thing just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► closes and digests it over and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► happening in your um what's happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► your County I'm gonna keep an eye on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► what else did you find other good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► uh well no i'm nothing was this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► this may say too much about me but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► unexplored oh I think I i totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► yeah because I wanted to see you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► wanted they're still to be some mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► there and still something left for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► find that is very much how my own mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► it's one thing to thoroughly clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► top-of-the-range and there's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► be any special surprises probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► they're right but the couch i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► that's that's special like that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► stuff in there if you really really go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► through that couch you know my case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► could probably find stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► previous owners probably matchbooks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► hello ever seen i kinda don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► am I crazy also to hope that that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► these days I'll be one of the guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► buy a used car and finds the doors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► everybody thinks that everybody always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► this is like your duffel bag in the tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► problem right duffle bag be driving down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► the road you're out obviously paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► attention to the road but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► time you count at the corner of the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► you're just looking good there be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► seventies gym bag with 127 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► dollars in it right that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► well they gotta go somewhere yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► how many times have I opened the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► newspaper it doesn't happen anymore but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► it used to happen all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► that a bale of money would wash up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► the shore in Florida or California yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► a bale bale of money a bale of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► then then I could go into the doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► tell them that I had an extra pancreas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► and they would they wouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► argue with me because i had the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► oh it's like the guy with the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► both put the fake through the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► good just hsq you go in cesky them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► say listen let's just kind of tap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2394">TS</a>]
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00:41:43 ◼ ► there are so many science-fiction tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► that are not science fiction tropes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► should be like the teleporter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2508">TS</a>]
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00:41:55 ◼ ► purpose right that you come out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► I mean you would presume that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► in the star trek universe also was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► or less immortal to normal death like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► they could think that part isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► part of the stick the stick part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► the concept of the show is that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► taken care of a lot of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► used to travel people in the 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► century and now we're able to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► explore without having to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► things like are our health for war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► yeah I guess that's right i guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► is a foundational why I got this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► somebody else but that but that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► of what makes this nigga show able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► stretch out a little bit so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► then can also talk about things that end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► up being you know like the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► right where you end up talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► stuff in modern life without being too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► right right and yet and yet they spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► all that time like walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► uh-huh you know like if you really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► had mastered disease and conquered war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► and sent out and we're set out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► explore why are you walking up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► the hall so much caring clipboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah you know a lot of doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► opening and closing yeah you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► that everybody in a comfortable chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► and they would be having sex anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► like Wally you just being just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► like a rocket chair enjoying the child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► yeah but how do you stop daddy daddy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► did they have to be sugar free drinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► that's so that once again the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► becomes it doesn't take long to dry it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► like everything right back down to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► yeah right hmm actually suppose some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► kind of colostomy bag where all the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► goes out but then nobody wants to we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► want to interact with somebody that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► got a colostomy bag up and I don't and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► don't mean to be like anti colossal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► people that's a lot of people and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► uh-oh you know this week is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► long just sort of putter putter putter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► putter along yeah you know it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► it's been pretty it's been a pretty wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► ride and as you know and probably as our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► listeners no i did not survive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► primary election you okay talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► this you want some more time I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► obviously we will cover it at great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► length this is this is the funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► somebody is it because the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► also because politics like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► some people that not many but a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► couple of people chastised me for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► for the kind of like casual way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► and now that I that I conceded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► election you know I sent out a tweet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► talk to you later and I you know I sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► out an email to all of my supporters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► will continue to send emails you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► of the thoughts that I've had but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► obviously anybody that knows me knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► that this will we will discuss the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► race the campaign the experience books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► will discuss in a great great lengths we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► don't need to get it would get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► out right now but I'm I'm happy to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► about the immediate my immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► sensations the immediate moment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2723">TS</a>]
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00:45:34 ◼ ► candid to practice Michael my normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► candor in this realm where candor is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2738">TS</a>]
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00:45:51 ◼ ► the foundational ideas could you run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► office and and continues to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► honestly about yourself and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► perceptions and if so if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► why does no one why is it so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► because that's that that's our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► impression of candidates and politicians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► is that they're just not being honest oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► yeah like there must be a reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► everybody speaks in code and what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► discovered is that there is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► definitely a reason and partly partly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► is that there isn't really that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► difference between people and what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► goals are and i'm ieaving include like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► the radical lunatics who believed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► the earth was a is only 2,000 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► and who don't think that women should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► have the right to choose etcetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► etcetera etcetera those people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► and the and Bernie Sanders like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► are a lot of political gulf between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► those people but ultimately Bernie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► Sanders once kraft macaroni and cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► dinner and rick santorum once kraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► macaroni and cheese dinner right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► everybody eats kraft dinner i'm speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► canadian right now because they recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► changed the name to KD actually KD right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► so I i I'm trying to speak canadian and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► and because Europeans also sort of speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► canadian sometimes wonder we might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► the only ones that don't call it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► so delicious and easy to prepare all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► want but in any case so because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► human beings share more commonality then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► politics is the realm of difference and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► you you want to you want to exaggerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► the small differences between one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► delineation between candidates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► what you see in the in the Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► race or in the Democratic race are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► people that share ninety-eight percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► of their belief system making a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► deal out of the two-percent where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► they're different and when you speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► candidly about yourself all you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► is offering up opportunities for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► people to take those things that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► said and use those use those words to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► create different difference and distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► between you and people right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► throughout the entire race i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► myself even talking to you have feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► suddenly like I needed to keep little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► areas of what I was actually thinking um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► sequestered because to talk about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► was feeling and to talk about how I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► thinking completely with complete candor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► immediately put me at a disadvantage not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► in the it not in the race right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► because everyone in politics talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► it like it's a really long marathon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► saying stuff about what i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► right now I was hearing from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► every day like this is that the it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► understood what they were saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► that that would jeopardize me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► future if I was too candid about what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► was experiencing now you you just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► producing fuel for people to use against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► uh-huh and B and i saw i saw it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► practice and also saw it you saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► that the the potential of it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► now like there's so much I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► digest and the way that I digest stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► is as know in large part talking to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► about it and but I have some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► decisions to make about how much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► you know what what I what I think what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► believe is that that candor about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► life is more important to me than almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► it protects me from blackmail it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► the process that I that I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► important thing to me rather than then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► my ambition like what you have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► up what you really be fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► changing about your whole process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► being a person in order to heal to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► yeah but in the experience you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► I got between 17 and twenty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► the vote and way more people i mean all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► the people that helps and participated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► in all of the all of my supporters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► all the people who voted for me and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► the people around the world that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► supporting my campaign have they've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► been wonderful and vocal and supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► and great but the day after I lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► primary I heard from a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► people who had never communicated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► me before all say great run man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► really you really made a good campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► and you stayed true to yourself and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► you started a new conversation and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► now you force people to talk about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► other things it was a really successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► campaign you should be really proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► I can't wait for you to run again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► that i'm also getting that from friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► and supporters and i'm also getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I would get that from everybody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► well you lost your first one but like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► get them tiger get him the next time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► so I'm I'm processing that energy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► other people in that and and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► kind of holding that up against Mike's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► my first-hand experience of what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► like and what i want and how how best to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► serve and I honestly um and I mean I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► you know Marilyn I never want to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► uh-huh and been part of the part of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► has been hardest about my life is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► I've always felt like I'm always letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► everybody down and I don't want to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► anybody down and that that propels me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► um and I don't want to let I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► to let people down but running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► office was really distasteful I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► did not enjoy it and and it may very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► well be like childbirth we're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► immediate aftermath you say that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► awful but then nine months later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► forget and you say oh I really like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► think I'd like to have another kid I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► childbirth wasn't that hard you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► the the the hormonal rush kind of papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► over the pain but in the but throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► the entire experience like I was I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► was just personally very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► difficult and I looked around me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► other candidates and it at my mentors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► and there it there is a personality type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► that doesn't find it that difficult you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► know that just as and we discussed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► a lot on this program there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► arm are made to run the four-minute mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► and they trained and they work hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► they also have of physiology and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► they don't have a tiny lung and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► and they love to run and they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► great runners and there are other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► that they could train just as hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► they would never be a great runner just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► because that's not what they were built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► to do you know they'll never dumped a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► basketball and there are people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► meant to 24 there are people that thrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► in the environment the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► environment that we have created that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► have decided is that is how we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► people forth and how we choose our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► officers there are people that in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► environment are they've never felt so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► alive their eyes are shining their coats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► are glistening they love that they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► the process and they love that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► attention and they love the the tussle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► of it and and I and I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► people would think I would be good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► and and and why I what people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► think I would enjoy it but in fact it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► a kind of a kind of like pure torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► for me to be in that under that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► kind of purposeless scrutiny and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► exploiting minor differences you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► like that's ultimately the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► don't I that then I don't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► purpose in minor differences are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► that I always try to to to heal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► rectify or two or even celebrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► celebrate exactly like Aaron this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► there's here are the minor differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► between US isn't this wonderful and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► politics it is like I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► Pantone color 244 is the greatest color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► and my opponent thinks the pantone color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► 245 it a clearly evil color is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► color and we should end of everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► should rally around my pantone color and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► it's just like oh my god what a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► terrible terrible way to do business or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► to think even and and you can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► you can think of people in your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► experience who just love that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► disagreement and that sort of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► shape when you've had that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► that as you describe this it seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► obvious now that it's crazy but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► it if you're having an argument with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► your pals not not about whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► beatles were good bad but about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► which album you happen to like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► that week maybe not even likewhat is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► best album like which one do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► the most like that is a fun conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► to have about minor differences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► you're also not constrained and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► decide to argue that and there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► consequences to what happens if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► argued better than you like you and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► the thing is you get to be who you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► to be when you're arguing with your pals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► like one of the greatest one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► things that makes you who you are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► makes you so interesting is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► you you have a very muscular way of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► having these kinds of discussions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► people but that's not conducive to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► you're describing it i get it i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► i'm saying is like there's something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► just repeating I guess what you said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► there's something structurally about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► way the this discourse is set up there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► something basic to the structure of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► that is hobbling to like what makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► who you are in and so I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► you agree with that but like to mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► watching that and seeing you have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► you look like though it already feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► like poison in your mouth to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► phrase something in a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► because it doesn't get out the truth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► it it doesn't get the completeness of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► but it has to be said in this certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► poisonous you know dumb down way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► order to not be something that's used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► yeah at and and there are just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► there are so many nuances to it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► to my like personal experience of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► running for office and that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► challenge for me right now and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► about it in with all the candor I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► to is that I want to be of service and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► want to use what I know for the greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► good and it seems like running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► office is that opportunity or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► it seemed to me that that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► opportunity to do that and now i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► know if that I don't know if I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► if you're not circumspect about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► talk about how this went yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► and how you feel about it and and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► like you know there are because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► entered this new community of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► wear their expectations in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► language is so so different you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► run for office which which was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► I remember saying to you I think insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► to my mom that early on and then halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► through like well I've had harder six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► months than this you know I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► harder three months the mist I've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► three months your mom your mom said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► had worse months and you've had worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► months and then there was a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► moment in the run-up to the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► where I could no longer say that I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► worse month than this man and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► and there were some days which were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► in the running force for like worst day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► and you know I been to jail I've been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► a i have shivered in the cold hungry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► uh-huh i have been bitten by dogs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► have a fought wild boar and that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► was a day in the campaign where I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► had to wake up and go talk to like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► or seven different executive boards of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► organizations and it was worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► fighting bore and so and yet there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► tons of people who have said to me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► big chest shower grins you know oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► you always lose your first campaign and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► to think like oh I see you just do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► this was the sporting one this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► one that I just like that was just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► just to figure it out the next one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► going to be the real time or the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► after that I it work it requires this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► what I don't know it requires either a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► an emotional temperament that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► like being able to dunk a basketball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► and you know to to sit in a in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► basement of a community center arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► with your opponent over it ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► like insignificant differences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► opinion and then when you're done have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► the energy to race across town in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► car to stand in front of a supermarket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► and hand out buttons to people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► not interested in you and do all of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► with relish that is it that's it that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► a that is a type and you know and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► the type that sits and thinks of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► then looks at maps in a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► Napoleon and thinks about what that must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► have meant to the people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► selling grain and it and it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► you want that kind of person to run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► office sometimes but maybe maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► the that aperture just is too small or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► too or the pressure in the hose is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► great but I don't want I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► because this is such a fraud moment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► the the week I lost my first election i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► also know that maybe I maybe I will in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► six months be like you know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► it was actually great and I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► to say because because we're living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► world where everything you and I say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► recorded and broadcast this would this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► will all be something I'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► reckon with in a year over and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► will say well didn't you say in the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► after the the primary that you blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► blah you decided that this was not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► nature and you would never want to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► again right so now you're running again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► yeah and I don't want to live in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► where where I'm where I'm scrutinized in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► that way not because I'm afraid to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► the book because my fundamental premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► is that yes i can say that the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► after I lost an election and a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► later run for office and that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► contradiction is normal and great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► one violent ends up getting inside your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► own head in some ways right because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► mean it you know it's easy to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► couple giant steps back and go well no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► you know it is not easy it's simple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► simple to say hey wait a minute i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► gonna tear myself up over this i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► to keep being whoever I want to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► intrusive thoughts of like yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► how's that gonna be processed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► presented and repackaged and productize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► by other people and then now it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► know I'm saying like part of it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► like what's the phrase you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► for is like it's in your head like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► see you getting you getting psyched out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► in some ways i was in order to in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► to in order to do like I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► any doubt in my mind that you'd be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► at the job that you're trying to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► the concern I think anybody could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► including you is like how you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► job which seems in some ways that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► not a natural fit for for how you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► or how you live it isn't because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► you're like somebody that someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► gonna get dirt on its that you it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► that you end up having to fight with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► both hands tied behind your back in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► ways and you can't you can't do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► you're best at which is being expressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► about how you feel as a person in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► yeah well so you know we were worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► you and I about all the things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► Roderick on the line that might come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► in a campaign that a that my opponent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► would say that i had endorsed Stalin or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► especially taken out of context yeah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► that i had a that I had pillows made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► alright alright even in context that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► kind of weird even in context it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► little weird but the only one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► really came out from Roderick on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► line and it was obviously something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► had you know that that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► that anybody I was running against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► dedicated interns to listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► podcast i think that you know I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► remember how long ago was but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► there have been a few episodes where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► know where I really rankled people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the the the biggest one was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► where i was talking about gender pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► equity and talking about it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► flippantly and in a voice of sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► describing a conversation I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► with a middle-class white lady about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► pay and it was it was a it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► episode that immediately generated a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► listenership and made a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► mad and I got really schooled at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► time by our listeners and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► people that you know that listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► program and agreed to disagree with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► because they like the tenor of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► conversation and this was an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► a thing where i had crossed a line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► was talking about gender pay equity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► which was a thing that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► were educated on and and passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► about and I was just talking about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► a tone of voice that was sort of full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► privilege and full of a just lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► complete understanding and we got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► of flack for it at the time and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► surprised that i was surprised not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► that the response was what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► because I deserved that response but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► that we lost people in that that after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► hundred-plus episodes of the show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► your and my minds are on display that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► even in a situation like that where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► was wrong i was just straight-up wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► I wasn't i didn't understand that issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► and was not speaking about i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► speaking from a place of ignorance in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► voice of confidence that people couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► forgive it because we had touched on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► nerve touched on a topic that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► like as a bridge too far for people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► it was a litmus test for whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► we were good people whether or not I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► a good person and so the education I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► in that moment or in that in that week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► or so from people writing me thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► people friendly friends who wrote me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► said hey you're wrong on this and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► and here's the evidence and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► details i took that to heart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► understood that I was wrong and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► it isn't it isn't there wasn't a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► where you and I were talking later i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► the opportunity to say like that episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► 2 episodes ago I really have changed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► tune and probably should but but it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► was a it was a it was an education and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► then and then the other component of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► was that there were all those people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► didn't reach out to me and say here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► where you're wrong but who just went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► the internet that John Roderick is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► person and you know there's still that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► there's one of our reviews on itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► where some listeners like I used to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► this program but John Roderick denies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► that there that women i have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► in life or something like that and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► can't listen to the program and was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► like what are you talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► fuck you like I I was wrong and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► willingness of people to give me or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► give anyone the opportunity to learn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► um is the that's the ultimate gift we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► can give one another and to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► somebody fail a test and then deny them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► their place at the table or to just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► like I can't abide this person anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► because they were wrong one time is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► is kind of the modern disease but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► somebody from our world somebody who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► listened to the program and who was mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► or who was disappointed or who had who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► excerpted that conversation where I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► where I talking to my middle-class white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► female friend where I said I mean do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► make 75 cents on the dollar at your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► does anybody you know make 75 cents on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► the dollar at their jobs and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► uh like I wasn't questioning what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► they're there were women in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► who were making significantly less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► their male counterparts but just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► a white privilege moment we're in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► world I i was having a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► understanding how how it worked and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► didn't see it and then that and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► learned you know and I made I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► gender pay equity an issue in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► campaign I've talked about it as often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► as I could and was one of the few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► running for office that that talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► about it a lot and in and in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► because of that experience of talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► about on this program and getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► amount of and getting the education I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► did from people that were that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► genuinely trying to educate me but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► of a sudden on facebook there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► egg's a an mp3 an excerpt of me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► show that was you know a minute or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► long talking about gender pay equity in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► this smug voice and it got passed around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► and it didn't get passed around by tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► burgess by my conservative archenemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► that was out to destroy my credibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► with the left it got passed around by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► the left and ultimately you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► and made available initially by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► that i would probably consider a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► or would have considered a friend and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► was shared most widely and commented on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► most virulent Lee by leftists by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► people i would imagine where Mike my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► core constituency and there was not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► all that conversation any a temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► or offer of opportunity for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► explain and and honestly like I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► say well taken out of context what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► really talking about was I mean I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► were a better politician I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► could have said i was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► white privilege you're taking it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► context it was all ironic or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► but it wasn't they were you know it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► were right to find that excerpt and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► was and if I hadn't learned that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► you know that would be it would be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► to call attention to it and say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► misrepresented himself the years how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► here's what he really thinks and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► context of this program of me talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► about Stalin and and often even being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► wrong about the Beatles being wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► about gender pay equity was one of 1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► times I've been wrong on this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► but it was in the context of running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► office an instance where I was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► about a thing that I was wrong about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► thing that is really you really used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► politics as a way of determining whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► somebody is out on the right side or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► and whether or not somebody is on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► side or secretly on the wrong side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► and that was it that was a huge learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► in running for office which was I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► over and over again from people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► what you say on the campaign trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► almost everybody is too cynical to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► believe what gets said on the campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► trail even you know even political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► novices know that are presumed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► candidates are lying right and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► presume that all candidates are lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► all the time but all you're getting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► them is what they say on the campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► trail then what the where the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► information must be hiding is in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► voting record their personal record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► their paper trail and that's why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► personalize campaign so much because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► every everybody stands up and says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► wanna make the world a better place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► I want to chicken in every pot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► the reporters and the world says well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► what about this time you cheated on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► taxes or what about this time that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► uh-huh or what about this time on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► podcast you said you weren't in favor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► gender pay equity and then you are then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► you are exposed or the presumably or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► the premise of that is now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► exposed this person for who they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► are and a lot of times a politician is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► destroyed by that revelation by the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► housekeeper is an undocumented worker or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► you know and sometimes they're not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► mean the revelation that george bush was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► a draft-dodger or you know got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► gotta a plum job in the air force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► reserve and then didn't even fulfill his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► commitment that didn't destroy his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► political career but isn't isn't it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► of like it's at least a couple different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► things or on the one hand there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► there's at least two or three things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► this one is like hey well here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► something somebody said that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► embarrassing whether or not it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► potentially embarrassing whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► it actually has an impact which in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► case it does on on what they seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► then there's the deeper level of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► yeah that was really dumb thing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► and it is at odds with what that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► thinks right i mean one thing to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► you like wearing a lampshade on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► head in you know 1988 or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► you know in this case that seems like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► important thing and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► third part which is and they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► you to know about it and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► that that combination of things is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► quite understandably something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► people find very attractive if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► in the right state of mind certainly we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► find that very attractive and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► people when we when we see where we rush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► that put that poorly but when we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► out that somebody we disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► politically or somebody who we think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► a scoundrel has obviously done something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► that's completely at odds and hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► their credibility like when that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► at Donald Trump most of us chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► yeah right and this is an example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► thing where I you know I was this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► like me wearing a lampshade or be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► talking about Hitler this is me talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► about a very real political issue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► is on the table right now and something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► we should all be talking about and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► should and gender pay equity is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► it's like a very visible example of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► we haven't we are we have our our goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► of of equity and in in our culture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► unmet and it's something we can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► do stuff about and in Seattle right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► we can do stuff about like the city of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► seattle can set an example in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► of seattle can require the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► that doing business with companies doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► business here uh pay their workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► equally it's a it's a it's a political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► uh it's it's an actual political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► difference between people and and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► was me on tape saying saying it getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► it wrong and there isn't an opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► I could have stayed up 10 nights in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► row and went on every facebook page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► it got sent around two and join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► conversation and said wait I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► this is a place where i was i got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► wrong and and I learned from it already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► before i even thought about running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► office i had learned that I was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► and I changed my might take on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► um and you know if I were a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► politician maybe that's what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► have done spending stayed up all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► trying to try to put out those little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► um but but that you know that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► as an example and it's a thing of its a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► thing when I when I declared I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► running you know the the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► everybody was worried about was will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► know didn't you punch a guy in the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► how's that going to play you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► citywide election I was like well if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► comes up you know it comes up and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► I'll I'll I'll deal with it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► comes up and then it was and no no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► in the no.1 running those initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► questions by me said well what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► that what about that gender pay equity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► stuff that you were wrong about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► and actually the the punk-rock article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► came back to haunt me over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► again because they're just people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► are never there just never gonna let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► that rest and so all those are instances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► where my public wrongness which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► personally and just in general like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► I'm wrong all the time I say a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► stuff and I think out loud and i'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► and sometimes I is circle back to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► sometimes I don't and sometimes I i may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► yeah so I don't know how to proceed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► well it sounds like you well I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► it'sit's your gig but I mean like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► sounds to me like there's nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► as long as its I guess what you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► or shouldn't do probably have too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► events like this where you were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► narrate your process out loud it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► like something that's something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► probably want to limit as far as a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► I mean that's the thing i I'm now laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► the groundwork for what my life is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► to look like going forward and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► wouldn't have thought uh you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► like personal integrity looks like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► one kind of thing you you either have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► or you don't and a lot of people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► race including people i was running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► against indicated that they would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► and do kind of anything to get elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► and I don't mean like saying do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► to get elected like put somebody in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► a put a drunk guy in his car and yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► eventually saw what you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► about your house of cards right but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► did eventually see what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► about one of your opponent's was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► actually go quite good at some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► tight provocative statements that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► just kind of leave a turn on somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► yeah and-and-and very provocative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► then say a and then you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► take you aside behind the curtain net at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► the next event and be like hey man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► know sorry about that i just did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► know you know you know I've got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► after you and and it's all in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► or whatever hope I you know hope I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► win your support or whatever and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► like it's all very skeezy or can be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► that's not me and I and I can't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► that way but but you know sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► right now and and just you can just hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► the hesitancy the reluctance in my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► to to come clean and that too feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► an infection like a kind of a like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► and I have to have to process it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► I have to process what I want and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► want to do next and that's not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► that i am super like talented at either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► or but that's not i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► usually sit here and say like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► here's the next five years of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► and here's what i want and so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► like that's just that's it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► you're on parole when you're not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► all-encompassing thing that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► finding a bore but you're also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► completely free of that particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► because he's like he's as you say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► start to think about which what might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► and-and-and-and when we started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► campaign the idea that we were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► reform the political process and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► one candidate running from outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► system could be an agent of reform that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► swept all the cobwebs out of the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► and and and made the political process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► new and exciting and newly honest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► all you had to do was run an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► campaign and that honesty would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► a a like a teleportation machine that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► organize the atoms and took the disease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► out his life if you feel like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► saying things you know are true sunlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► does nothing but make that clearer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► and in fact what I discovered was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► it that the that the process of running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► organizations all of whom have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► interest in reform ultimately and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► talking about not just the you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► just the chamber of commerce but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► socialist party like I was endorsed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► neither the Seattle Times nor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► stranger i was endorsed by neither the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► Chamber of Commerce nor the Socialists I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► was endorsed by you know neither the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► business community nor the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► and though when we think about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► groups as oppositional right the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► unions and the bosses and think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► should be able to at least agree on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► yeah the left paper and the right paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► conservative Democrats and nobody none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► of those groups chose me and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► ultimately the the reason that I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► over and over again was that predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► ility is the currency of the realm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► nobody wants a candidate that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► gonna that is the predictable and no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► wants a candidate where they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► exactly how he's going to vote on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► issue and they would rather have a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► that they that they know is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► vote against them then somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► doesn't that they somebody that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► can't predict and so ultimately like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► being being honest and being true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► being yourself all those political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► agents the one that the the commonality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► is that none of them want something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► they their power rests on their ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► to work within this this broken a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► crystal system and so to reform and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► it takes to reform the Union process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► picking a candidate and what it takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► reform the Chamber of Commerce process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► of of picking a candidate with those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► those two groups think of themselves as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► polar opposites and think of themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► as you know as as having completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► different goals in mind but from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► perspective they functioned up almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► exactly the same which was I went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► sat down in front of them and answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► their questions and ultimately they felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► like not that I was not intelligent not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► capable not that I was not interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► not that I was not compelling but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► was not predictable and and so going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► into the primary election i had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► support of no one except for the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► know the 20,000 people that voted for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► who as we've talked about before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► know the long winter sell 20,000 records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► and their 20,000 people listen to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► podcast and 20,000 people voted for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► it's the 20,000 person problem Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► but but but uh why haha but that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► yeah right Wow like that you know long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► winters 45,000 record sold or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► but I have a and we have not talked much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► about the statistical fish oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► really really close but wow wow so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► that is the thing where where there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► no way to reform that process there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► single way to reform it because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► work if you were a renegade candidate if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► you were Ross Perot or if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► $1000000 and could just go right to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► voters and you didn't have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► any of those the any of that political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► machine they at they even with a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► dollars even if you went even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► bought every TV advertisement on Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► TV and just went just went right to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► voters that political machine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► newspapers the the Democrats you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► they still could defeat you I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► have enough fame and name recognition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► overcome it is another thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► midst of this that I can't get my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► around which is like for everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► you're describing about getting this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► i'm thinking about any variety of dozens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► of other jobs that one would try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and you know I I'm not not to put too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► fine a point on it but but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► most cases it's their people are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► for somebody who can get along with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► team and they're looking for somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► who can accept the system that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► most managers managers let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► don't want to hire somebody who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► come in and revolutionize the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► especially if they've never worked there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► before and so in this case i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► think you you're facing also a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► bit of anna karenina problem where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► one thing to say like we're going to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► the system but like they're each which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► part of that system would need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► free as you said would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► changed in such a radically different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► way that is at odds with how they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► always done it so but you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► the thing is that the the system is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► it is because that's how it operates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► that's you know and so it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► well my job is to be electable like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► I'm not electable I won't get the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► you know it's a really can't get beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► that as I think the thing about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► that you know what the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► choose somebody to be on the seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► city council or the way that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► people choose and certainly the way all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► these systems choose is they say what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► can you show us instances where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► managed a big operation and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► like give us your management cv and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► ultimately what i was saying over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► over throughout the campaign is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► mistake to choose managers for this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► because being on the seattle city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► council is not a management job you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► not managing anybody you're sitting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► you're sitting on a panel of nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► thoughtful people trying to make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► of the law and if you put managers there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► over and over what you're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► is people that one are trying to manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► the other city councilman and manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► their manage the details and manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► their reputations and manage the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► press like it's the lieutenant-colonel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► problem all over again like it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► management job it is a it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► different kind of job that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► being on a panel and we see this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► business to wear so often the hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► process is not about who's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► along with my team but Rick but rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► like who's got the who's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► management experience to handle this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► this stuff this stuff job and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► and all those google questions of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► how many angels can dance on the head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► you have one minute to answer go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► know it makes the interviewer feel smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► Kobayashi Maru it's just it's just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► see how you respond it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► explain to my daughter Kobayashi Maru it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► seems like it's a test of leadership but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► it's really a test of character they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► just want to see how you respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► yeah at but so often like the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► answer a Kobayashi Maru question is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► really salient to being a good member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► a team on a UH that's developing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► this have to do with selling ads on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► websites that's what you guys do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► yeah right i mean you know and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► really want a bunch of people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► trained to answer these like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► character questions and ultimately it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► like Kobayashi Maru stuff i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► if that was how we elected somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► City Council that'd be great but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► interviewing for that job is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► that you have you have a detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► knowledge of the jobs of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► would be executing the job and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► don't really need that to be a good city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► councilperson in fact that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► councilperson if you're if you're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► from a place of like I used to implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► this policy and now I want to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► see like well knowing how to implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► it in knowing how to make it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► radically different skills but knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► how to implement it is the only way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► have to judge the only other because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► otherwise we would have to use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► that's because like the s80 it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► it's there's a wee-wee is a test that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► understand and there seems to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► relationship between how people will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► how well people do in the SATA and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► well they do in college that it's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► understand it's a crapshoot but it's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► yeah right our best corruption and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► that best crap shoot is like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► thing the s80 once is to start measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► the last thing that Harvard once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► know that they want you to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► write a good essay question but and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► you're really really a genius and can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► and are going to win the Fields Medal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► yeah they want to try and get ahold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► you and they'll and they'll cultivate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► you but but processes need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► systematized and you can't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► process that is that's that use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► that rates imagination and so and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► imagination and we just hope we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► somebody we hope that somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► jumps through these hoops also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► imagination if they don't that's fine at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► least they jump through the hoops and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► the last thing we want is some is to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► imagination and then discover that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► they shit themselves and and have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► explain why we chose them so I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► like going forward I need to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► what i want to do with my life and how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► can help and be and you know and how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► how I most useful and just like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► been your enduring question for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► yeah and and hasn't gone away and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► most useful as an elected official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► i I don't know how I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► make it through that process and wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► and retain what I think is most useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► about myself and that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► Kobayashi Maru of this are you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► potentially open to the idea that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► I'm going very very very open to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► I just don't want to like like the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5870">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► this whole conversation has been about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► is I don't know how I'm gonna feel nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► months from now and I don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► 30 hours of you and me saying um there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► a certain type of person that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► could ever get elected to public office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► and it's a and there's a reason that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► don't trust them once they are elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► but the job of elected official is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► kind of is a kind of poly Archie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► what we really should be doing is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► figuring out where power really lies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► trying to affect the way that power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► the trying to affect the activation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► that power closer to the source and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► you know the idea of the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► representative democracy it's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► thought technology and we elect people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► and send them up to these bodies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► perform this task and is that the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► way to get things done or is that a has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► increasingly just a just a performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► that that that that squanders resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► where things are really happening and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► can laws be made more efficiently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► better get through a different practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► and maybe so I mean it's so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► think about our democratic institutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► and divorce them from our mythology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► divorce them from our desire to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► democratic and say wait we are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► desire to be Democratic is still great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► and we need to we need to chase it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► we need to find and perfect what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► means to be a to be Democratic rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► than autocratic or Oleg arcing but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► this method where we sent where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► where we put people into a into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► process where they're running for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► and then we elect them and we send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► up to a legislative body and they bicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► with each other and and passed laws by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► majority is that necessary is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► democratic or is that a holdover from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► time when we didn't have instantaneous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► communication is a holdover from a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► when we didn't trust everyone to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► and are we still practicing a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► democracy that was best suited for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► time when news traveled by horse cart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► and and we all gathered in the Town Hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► to have our voices heard and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► honestly I don't know I I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► I think that we probably waste more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► energy and more intellectual capital and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► more time running our government the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► we do but i definitely don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► fall into this into some silicon valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► disruptive way of doing government you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► know let's def government by Facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► whatever you know that's that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► sounds awful so right I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► about that my whole life how how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► have participatory democracy how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► have actual direct democracy without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► without succumbing to rule by mob right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► and and do these systems protect us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► does all of this all of this process is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► it all to protect us against our worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► nature's I don't know it's it's it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► speaking as someone who just lost his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► first election it's very hard to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► separate the personal from the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► right now not so fresh I mean I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► have some time to rest a little bit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► not have to be places and say things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► well you know of course both of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► opponents now I've reached out to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► asked for my endorsement and expressed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► desire to work with me and even use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► line and you know and I wrote them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► back it was like I'm just gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► i'm going to sell my boat up the Nile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► for a while I don't really want to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► don't want to talk to either you guys or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► interact with you at all and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► and the idea that one of you one of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► is going to champion the arcs on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► the Arts will be just fine without your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► advocacy but again you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► people will remember me as the the arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► candidate or something which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► yeah that's fine but but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► shorthand you end up being defined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► one or two words when you run for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► oh that's the that's the Union candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► or that's the arts candidate ER that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► the housing candidate or the like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► said all along that's that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► you know that's going to happen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► appellation is going to come along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► you win if you get that to be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► yeah right tough on crime or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► right and against the tunnel anti tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► the birth is ours called Bertha again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► through the tunnel and you can't be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► many of those you know you can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► against the tunnel but for the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► as confusing as confusing us to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► come on one thing pick up there you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQaW9Y/6285">TS</a>]