Roderick on the Line

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00:00:32 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin as it going good [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► I feel loose [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► oh good glad to hear that feel like a [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► longneck goose [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► mm-hmm don't think her felt like that [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► really the you know the the way you [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► measure looseness is on a scale of [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► Gustavus 02 goose me everything I wonder [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► what kind of animal I'd be if you were [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► feeling loose was feeling loose I'm [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► thinking maybe like a like a sloth you [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► know just because it just seems it seems [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► very laid-back slot slot seems loose [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► yeah I could subpoena goose not as [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► losses along that goose [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► mm that's the standard high looseness [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► sound good you sound using your voice is [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► very full o more fuller than can be [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► accounted for by microphone setup [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► hmm sounds always sounds fly i got a new [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► mic I'm still getting used to it [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► how do you like it i think i like it [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► it's unfortunately get it sounds bigger [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► but it brings out a range of my voice [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► that I can't hear very well I can get [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► that Bob Mould problem you know [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► mmm collaborate oh well you know is upon [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► you probably should have but I I think [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► I've lost some part of the range of [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► hearing accounted for by very loud [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► electric guitars and female voices [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► mm so yeah you've got a little you've [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► got a little v-shaped pivot there [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► looking like when I would go back like I [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► really like the sugar albums but when [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you listen to them they reflect the [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► production of somebody who kind of can't [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► hear me very well you know talking about [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► oh I do i do i do that all the time all [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► the time a lot of my people cannot hear [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► the mid-range especially the kind of the [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► high mid and do you account for that by [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► rock shows or would you say you lost [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► more hearing listening to loud music on [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► headphones or speakers [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► mmm i think that's from rehearsals from [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► band rehearsals like two or three nights [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► a week of having an orange amp in my [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► face during a time when it was [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► understood that you needed to the [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► biggest amp you can afford right and you [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► need and everybody in the band agreed [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► that they needed the biggest and they [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► could afford [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► it's you know it's funny when you put it [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► that way I mean the you know I don't [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► know one of the guys the other guitar [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► player main guitar player in the band [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► was kind of a gear nutso he was always [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► getting new things but mostly play with [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► an orange half stack and I always had [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► some kind of janky you know portable amp [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► just mic'd up and you know for most [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► situations on stage you just don't need [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► you know we all grew I think part of it [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► is we came up with stuff like van Halen [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► men and so you'll you will remember a [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► time in the eighties or what you wanted [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► was a Marshall stack em that she needed [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► what is it like to 410 cabinets and a [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► jcm head or 12 Kevin 412like who needs [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► that who really needs that well you know [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► we believe that all the way through the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► nineties and looking back at it I don't [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► really understand because and the things [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► I i was there i remember very distinctly [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► feeling like my hundred and twenty wat [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► Sound City head through a 4-12 cabinet [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► was like the bare minimum of what i [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► needed to perform at least that's your [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► traveling gear yet to perform unsalted [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► butter in a room for 350 people and [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► later I traveled with a 15 watt amp [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► right and and still had soundmen in [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► far-flung places like can you turn the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► guitar down a little bit like that i [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► don't know it was a it was a mass [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► delusion I when I want that first tour [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► that the Western State hurricanes did [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► with death cab for cutie back in 1999 i [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► took a defender pro river which is 35 [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► watt 212 amplifier what's that way I [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► mean it's heavy and it's also i mean [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► they're wonderful wonderful amps but I [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► routinely felt like I was underpowered [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► couldn't hear myself onstage tip the amp [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► back in order in a pointing it right at [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► my head [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► so that i could so that i could monitor [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► myself and it's like what was it was a [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► it was a collective insanity where I was [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► standing up there thinking to myself [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► this is this is important possibly small [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► amp and I only brought it on tour [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► because we didn't have room for the full [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► rig and now I'm at a disadvantage here [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► with only 35 watts and it's nuts [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► it's bananas but picture because you're [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► you're if you're in a situation where [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► you're not trying to i mean this isn't [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► like the era of cream where I guess and [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► the conventional wisdom that i've heard [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► is that one thing that made creme big [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► was that they could fill the auditorium [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► with their sound but also that was the [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► first time the PAS we're getting pretty [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► good so you could play loud and you [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► could they could hear you and you could [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► hear yourself and that was supposedly at [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► the technology of what I mean the [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► original idea of course right was that [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► there you didn't make the amplifiers [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► into the PA the PA was struggling just [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► to get your voice loud enough and so if [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► you wanted your guitar to be heard in [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► the back of the auditorium you need a [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► big amp to to fill the space but by the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► time I came alone that I mean it wasn't [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► like ps4 a thousand times better now [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► that's a technology that has evolved [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► with leaps and bounds pa pa equipment is [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► so much better now than it was when I [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► was starting out and yet even then it [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► was more than loud enough to get oh you [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► know like to make a small amp and [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► especially for like a club or like you [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► know for a planner you are [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► yeah it's my understanding is that Neil [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► Young has been playing through a 5 watt [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► amp for the last 40 years and he he has [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► all those amps on stage he does have [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► that one super big amp that he only [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► turns on sometimes but most of his tone [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► is coming from like a like a fender [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► champ behind a curtain [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► haha you put in the station wagon that's [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► how I understand it [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► yeah but it's all it's funny like I [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► don't want to overstate this because i [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► don't have a strong feeling about this [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► but it's a little bit like I remember [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► having this feeling where the other kind [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► of man had this great always had much [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► better equipment me he had more money [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► and access any cared more so he was [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► always getting like [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► no new Gibson's eat you'll get a new [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► danelectro get a new one every but you [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► know it always had great great amps so I [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► one point had settled into I had a i [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► think i'm gonna say softech head with [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► this little crummy old Gibson am that i [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► was using as a quote-unquote cabinet but [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► like it was dinky on stage it was on a [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► chair and it didn't feel again don't [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► want to overstate this I don't want to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► make this strictly a penis thing but i [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► have one or two guys in the band have [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► like a giant like a like what was that [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► cool base camp custom like one of those [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► big cushy you know like the big bass [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► amps that the padding on [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► yeah you would those our customers I I [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► would I would hesitate to call them i [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► mean they're very cool looking right i [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► would i would say they're super it looks [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► good it looks like it looks very rock [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► and roll you know to have something that [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► looks like a cross between a cabinet and [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► a couch and I've got this you know [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► little girl and Kruger size thing on a [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► chair [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► it isn't what they think of the same [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► original visual impact you know but you [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► know but the Gallagher's a fun example [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► because when that came when they [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► remember first hearing one of those at [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► at thoroughbred music and what 85-86 you [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► know like these little little amps that [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► could produce such such a range in such [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► a great amount i'm not saying it's like [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► the greatest amp in the world but like [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► you know I think it didn't it didn't [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► sell with the rock and roll guys because [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► it just didn't look impressive enough [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► you know all of this knowledge that we [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► have of eighties and nineties and in [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► some cases seventies and sixties and [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► fifties guitar and bass and vocal and [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► drum amplification and technology all [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► this knowledge is just useless now or [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► it's like it feels it feels so uh huh [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► that's like the I an entire room in my [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► brain is taken up with shelf after shelf [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► after shelf just like the matrix except [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► instead of machine guns it's the shelves [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► and shelves of knowledge about our qatar [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► Arcana and I spent so much time thinking [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► about and analysis and lost like tears [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► in rain [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► well like what am I supposed to do with [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► it now I'm not ordinary living there was [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► it i usually played sometimes I play [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► with one distortion pedal for a while I [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► play with to distortion pedals and for a [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► time I had three [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► well I could tell when I could tell you [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► well I'd like this distortion ok is but [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► I could explain why yes I could explain [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► why the the other just about to explain [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► them well the fuzz box and the rat and [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► the and the cool little was little [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► orange pedal where you can simulate [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► feedback what was that called because [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► the winter [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► yeah but I mean it was it was a pretty [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► cool distortion pedal and if you held it [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► made a really obnoxious fake feedbacks [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► out don't forget to put your hands [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► no no it was it was a stop box it was [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► made by oh I see if you if you put your [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► foot on it and held it there was a [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► roland pedal but the thing was but it [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► was a pretty ok like it was by third [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► hand distortion box but everybody I can [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► explain circuit 1998 like they were all [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► for different reasons and you use them [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► differently together and like everybody [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► who like cared about like having a [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► guitar sound oh yeah well I'm not going [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► to use always use the built-in [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► distortion on the amp I mean that's kind [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► of money and weird with this I could use [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► this fuzz like this big was a big like [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► Russian was a big muffin was called [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► something marvelous about softech [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► because a soft tech yeah it was a big [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► softech that was great for a buzzy sound [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► but if you wanted to just kick in for a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► slightly piercing guitar sound you hit [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► the other pedal [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► which boost the signal little bit a [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► little bit of my so so yeah I mean [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► honestly why do you need three [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► distortion effects you don't owe unless [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► you do and yes you do too [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► yes and likely with Orbeez that you put [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► them in like you put the you're gonna [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► have a phaser that use once during the [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► show you know you put that last you [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► would not put that before the distortion [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► and I mean I'm not even good at this [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► stuff and I know this and it now I I [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► have nobody teaching no one cares that [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► you're describing a signal chain and [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► specifically you're describing the gain [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► stages of a signal chain i'm listening [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► and anymore i have spent a lot of time [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► thinking about game gain stages because [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► the thing that the thing is i like to [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► use a clean boost you know my sound is [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► this is this is this is one of the one [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► of the tragedies for me was going out on [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► tour listening to a lot of bands really [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► envying guys that had a real fuzzy sound [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► like you know not a surf had a very very [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► distorted very saturated we call it [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► sound but for the guitar parts that i [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► played my particular sound required a [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► very clean boosted sound for your style [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► for your long and throw your guitar you [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► have a guitar that benefits from that [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► cell that's right a very clean sound if [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► I if I got a really nice like very [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► satisfying saturated sound then as soon [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► as the band would start playing it [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► didn't have the articulation that i [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► wanted i couldn't hear you know that put [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► playing playing playing that I liked and [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► so my gain stages i always had [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► well not always but I tried to also have [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► three but two of those were really kind [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► of just a they were just boosts which is [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► to say they they and so it so it depends [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► it was it it was was very important to [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► know how you wanted to arrange those [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► those boots because if you boost the [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► signal into something that has a ceiling [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► write something that's compressed that [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► boost just just kind of goes in there [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► and gets compressed by the by the [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► compressor further down the band as what [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► st. 44 later somebody who doesn't [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► care it's a little bit think about like [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► the order to do the dishes in you don't [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► you don't you don't know that you don't [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► dry the dishes before you clean them [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► come on you i mean there's that right [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► there is an order you do them in its [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► optimal and you get good at that and [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► that's kind of what you're describing [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► here is nothing like what it is you're [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► trying to accomplish at each stage of [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► that and not having it work across [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► purposes you don't drive the dishes [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► before your washer that's pretty good [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► huh right and so and the thing is late [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► at that goes all the way to the amp that [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► goes all the way to the front end of the [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► amp because some amps have a master [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► volume and the master volume is a kind [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► of like limit on how much the head is [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► gonna light up and some amps don't and [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► so if you send a boost into an amp with [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► a master volume you're going to get a [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► very different response from the from [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the head from the tubes inside of your [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► head then if you send that boost to an [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► app that doesn't have a master volume is [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► just sitting there waiting to get all [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► this added hot signal sent to it and [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► that's why I ended up you know i love i [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► love I've tried every kind of amp i know [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► i can name every kind of nut but you [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► know you end up your end up going back [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► to those fender amps those simple fender [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► amps because if you send something into [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► the the front of a Fender amp it's going [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► to like lift and it's going to send all [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► this beautiful and shiny really amplify [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the sound that's right and and and and [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► then it will accept fender amplifier [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► will accept additional power coming into [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► the into the channel like it will it [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► just embraces all this hotted up [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► electricity and it's just going to send [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► that right back to you in the form of [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► rock-and-roll band is a gracious host [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► mmm exactly so I want my daughter so [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► much time thinking about this and I and [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► all that time and up to people who are [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► not in bands and who have probably [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► already turned off this program [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► you know what you end up doing is you're [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► sitting cross-legged on the floor on the [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► bottom section of dirty carpet in your [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► band rehearsal studio while no one else [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► is there and you are chaining together [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► all your effects pedals and switching [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► them around and putting this one in [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► front of that one and now in front of [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► this one and imagining if you only had [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► one additional pedal how different would [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► be how everyone would finally understand [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► what you were trying to say with your [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► guitar instrument I mean hours and hours [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► and hours in these dark and musty rooms [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► figuring out this stuff which now i feel [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► like i feel like there should i should [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► be sitting in front of a room of of 20 [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► year olds all sitting cross-legged on [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► the floor all tried to hook up their [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► boxes and I would be pacing around the [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► front of the room saying now listen you [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► have to remember if you send a stereo [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► signal into a mono input you're going to [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► get up you're going to get a summing and [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► that's going to create a you're going to [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► lose a lot of the in the end they would [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► all be wrapped that's right i'll be [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► taking notes that they have a notebook [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► they have a notebook there they're like [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► there's they're stopping what they're [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► doing right there like oh my god was [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► about to do that and it was just like [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► okay here's what we what we need to do i [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► think the last thing so you know you [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► have a compressor pedal in your chain [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► this is a big question it's a subtle [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► effect but i ended up using the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► compressor pedal a lot at me at the end [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► or the end of my career I'm sorry I mean [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► that the way you put it in your only [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► don't I don't think you want to put it [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► toward that you don't think when [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► political us sound going through the [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► distortion and yeah you want you want [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► some compression in there cuz what is [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► distortion Merlin if not compression em [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► right what is distortion of not [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► compression or what does compression [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► produce if not distortion but you don't [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► want that you know you put that at the [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► end of your signal chain and all you're [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► doing is you're just squeezing through a [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► toilet paper that big thank you [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► so i have this knowledge I feel like [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► some I feel like a Saturn 5 engineer who [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► is wandering around NASA headquarters [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► during the Space Shuttle era trying to [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► talk to people about the saturn and no [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► one cares anymore they're like that's [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► great you got us to the moon Gramps but [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► you know what [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► now we're up here with the multicultural [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► cast of astronauts don't know more than [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► short sleeve white shirts [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► nope take your pick your pocket [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► protector out and go gently into this [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► good night because we don't give a shit [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► anymore about your dumb guitar knowledge [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► and nice pivot you know and and you [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► think about it it was one of those [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► things that from 1977 to 1997 we were [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► building on a body of knowledge in that [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► entire time it seems like this will [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► always be relevant that's the amazing [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► thing about about reaching Middle Ages [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► you see like how we had 20 years there [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► where it it never seemed like that [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► knowledge was going to stop being useful [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► it seemed like you were building on it [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► and I was not alone [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► tens and tens of thousands of people [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► were also building up tremendous like [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► guitar knowledge goes for so many [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► technologies that because I mean to a [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► large extent also really true for [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► computers like the end of the corpus of [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► data and pseudo data about using Mac's [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► in particular that i have in my head the [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► end of that is also kind of represents i [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► would say the mid mid to late nineties [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► when I feel like I didn't know the most [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► most technically specifically like down [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► to the metal about those computers but i [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► knew a lot about like making them work [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► better or like what software to use to [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► make this thing happen like I knew a lot [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► of that stuff and that's all that's all [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► tears and rain is that right well I mean [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you know by and large is all kinds of [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► things where you could be a wizard by [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► knowing obviously start with something [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► like turn it off and on but then you [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► also get to something like oh you know [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► rebuild your desktop on the mac or [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► throughout your tcp/ip perhaps you know [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► out of the system folder and all these [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► little things were like there's always [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► little wizard things we had this array [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► of stuff i think that's true for guitar [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► stuff i think it's true for certainly [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► got to be true for stereo equipment [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► I mean how many people even like [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► own and according to Hoyle stereo [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► anymore I remember the first time you [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► told me to turn my computer off and then [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► back on again [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► you do yeah because I was like what [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► what's that gonna do when you're like [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► listen trust me on this [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► sometimes it works miracles was like oh [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► ok I'll do of turn your computer on [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► whatever you say break and then it was [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► like okay your gums coming back on and [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► then it worked and it was like what [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► happened Merlin how did that how did you [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► know that that was going to work and you [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► have this a lot of this you know long [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► explanation about like well you know [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► sometimes they just need to rest is the [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► together get confused [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► yeah and they just need it just needs to [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► reestablish all the all the album Eno [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► all the phone calls establish all the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► phone calls rewire all of the electrodes [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► that's right needs to just rewrite the [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► encryption it needs to get a hack into [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► the mainframe it needs to it needs to [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► repair those permissions on Jack andrey [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► Jack matrix and so just do it and and I [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► was like then that became Wow go to [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► problem solver kit first thing first [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► tool in the toolbox turn the computer [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► off tumbling it's very humbling [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► yeah yeah I'm gonna feel like turning [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► this computer off right now just to see [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► what would happen that's but often weeks [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► oh really that's nice to hear yeah I i [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► decided i don't know year or two ago [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► that I just gonna stop turning my [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► computer off i was just going to put it [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► to sleep [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► that's fine and that seems to be fine [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► yeah I I feel like God you know people [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► like I think in the unix community yeah [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► I've always had a certain point of pride [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► about like what they're up time is like [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► i haven't had to restart my computer in [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► six months or whatever like the evening [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► with my phone like now that I've got [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► phones that have touch ID and stuff like [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► I I don't like restarting the phone [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► there are times where I go uh things not [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► working my kids game is not working and [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► I know I know I'm Merlin man I'm the [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► go-to gizmo guy like i know that if i [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► hard reset this phone if I hold down the [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► home key and the sleep button and make [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► it restart like it will probably be fine [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► but then I've got a reactor password [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► sometime [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► that haha did you literally restart your [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► computer [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► what happened while restarting my all of [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► a sudden you're your voice went all [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► robot and then it all went it all went [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► to shit and I felt like it was a clear [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► case of the of the ghost in the machine [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► hearing us and feeling like it was going [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► to X it was going to show us exactly [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► exactly how to repair some permissions [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► by just all--just shit the bed [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► have you guys ever tried running the [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► wireless diagnostic and hope I this [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

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00:22:09 ◼   ► many of my own sites and yes my own [TS]

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00:23:09 ◼   ► squarespace for supporting rod on the [TS]

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00:23:13 ◼   ► Squarespace build it beautiful [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► oh the wireless setup assistant yes he [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► comes in a little tuxedo holding a tray [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► and he says is your is your modem on [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► well I can't help you thanks for trying [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► yeah that's what your frustration with [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the wireless connectivity troubleshooter [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► is where the delights of my life but [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► some it makes me so mad I don't see how [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► anyone could defend it if I worked at [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► Apple in whatever job i had an apple I [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► would immediately request a transfer [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► into the diagnostic Department you call [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► you call a meeting everybody in here [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► everybody everybody in the conference [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► room please let's go so nicely are gonna [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► change around here i would say what [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► exactly do you think your product does [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► oh you have like you have a John [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► Roderick as Steve Jobs moment where you [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► would say what is what is your what is [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► your job here what does this is what is [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► this thing supposed to do [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► that's right that's right and now what [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► does it do what it's supposed to do what [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► do you imagine people turn to your [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► product to do well is to help people [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► diagnose whether their wireless is [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► working properly far just thought the [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► door was like sugar program and I would [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► be like fired fired fired i could go out [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► into the street and get 25 people random [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► people walking around a mall and they [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► would have a better understanding of how [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► to build a diagnostic system than you [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► ding-a-lings have been working here [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► since the dawn of time I feel like it's [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► the let's probably the last refuge of [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► scoundrels an apple all the guys that [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► have been there since the eighties and [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► up at diagnostics because it still works [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► like it still works exactly like the [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► computer that my it still works like my [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► imac classic just like well I'm having [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► some problems i'm going i don't know [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► what the problem is let's go 20 [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► diagnostic that seems like that word [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► means well and for folks who are just [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► out problem folks were just coming out [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► of this right now it seems like in [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► summary what happens with you say [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► something's not working so you go to the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► diagnostic tool and then the result of [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► the diagnostic tool is that what you [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► just check this network [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► that's right all it is always the same [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► which is here are here hard the six [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► steps we understand with all are [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► involved turning something off and on [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► and when that doesn't want that [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► inevitably does not solve the problem [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► there's no for no further information [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► it's impossible to glean anything from [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► this tool it doesn't say anything [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► specific although it knows more and [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► that's what's frustrating the diagnostic [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► tool has to know more than it is [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► revealing and so you you wonder whose [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► side are you on diagnostic tool do you [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► work for me [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► do you live in my computer are you my [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► friend you belong to me are you my [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► advocate here [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► uh-huh or are you collecting for nation [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► in which you feel like I'm either not [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► ready to hear not able to understand or [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► are you collecting information on behalf [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► of someone else and and I'm just and [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► you're just telling your just [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► functionary in a train station on the [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► Slovakian border who has one stamp and [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► if you cannot put the stamp in the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► passport then there's not there's no [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► further conversation to be had [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► it's almost as though you have a [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► technology and extremely sophisticated [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► technology for finding your lost car [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► keys but in order to use it you have to [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► have your car keys in your hand exactly [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► it works flawlessly as long as you have [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► the key in your hand [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that's right as not only does not [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► actually lost it works fine it's not [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► that he's a what what do i do what do i [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► do I had them here the whole time Thank [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► You diagnostic tool but it's like golly [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I'd really like to figure out what could [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► possibly be wrong that was because this [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► is what's amazing to me there can't [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► really be that many things wrong like [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► the the computer is never going to come [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► to you and say there's too much salt in [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► it in the in the water or the computers [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► never going to come to you and say no [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► one ever loved you as a child like the [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► computer is only going to say a few [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► things in addition to the things it says [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► right is going to say like here's the [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► amount of signal i'm getting from your [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► modem and it's the and it's in here are [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► the steps type of signals that I like to [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► get in here the ones I don't [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► here are the this is what this signal is [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► telling me but you know what you're [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► doing is you're sitting in a room you're [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► looking over here [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► wireless thing which is which Oh again [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► it only has five lights and those lights [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► are blinking and the so so that machine [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► to the best of its ability is telling [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► you I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► I'm fine and then the computer is [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► sitting right where I mean within within [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► like it could be could reach out and [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► touch the other thing and it's telling [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► you like don't get help you don't know [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► don't know don't know [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► and somewhere between those two there's [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► more information available and I feel [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► like it's a it may be a situation where [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► i need a dongle [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► mmm has some additional lights and the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► dongle is gonna maybe some kind of a [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► dashboard that maybe seems to me like [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► you want something that goes deeper into [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► the human issues that will be nice if it [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► like let's take an obvious one nam [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► results of the diagnostic comcast sucks [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► like if you could say to you writing [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► sample like oh I when I checked on the [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► internet and I found out that there's an [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► outage in your area or maybe I know this [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► is this is all just blue sky solution [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► hearing what if it said something like [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► you just need a new cable for this [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► mm there you go write your guide you [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► forgot to turn off dropbox and that's [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► taking all of your bandwidth which I [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► think all your bandwidth precisely what [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► does the word that a diagnostic could [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► use these are these are simple [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► this is a simple additional level of [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► Diagnostics like I remember back in the [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► early days of the long winters when [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► Wi-Fi was still very much an exotic and [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► wonderful thing we needed a special card [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► the jam into the side of your computer [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► yes Eric Corson bass player of the long [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► winters and former employee of the apple [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► store i'm sorry the mac store former [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► employee of the mac store [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► oh he worked for an off-brand a [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► third-party yeah we work for a [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► third-party Apple distributor Eric had a [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► had a Wi-Fi card antenna thing but he [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► also had some kind of program which I [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► never took the time to develop an [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► understanding of didn't seem important [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► at the time and we would drive around in [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► the van in the middle of the night [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► because we would invariably be like [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► showing up in some town in the middle of [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► the night and he would have his computer [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► in his lap and his little is little [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► antenna and he'd be we'd be seeking [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► Wi-Fi signal what you're looking for [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► here is it was called a Wi-Fi sniffer it [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► was a sniffer sniffer is putting its [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► little electronic nose up in the air and [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► saying is there Wi-Fi can I sniff it [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► that's right he was sniffing and we were [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► we were on the on the hook right driving [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► slowly that van in gear just idling [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► through these times i remember one night [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► in in like creepy things have been going [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► very slowly by her house was slender man [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► is hunched over his computer looking at [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► your window but we were in des moines [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► one night and des moines is a town [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► I don't know the last time you were [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► there but des moines is a town that [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► really rolls up the sidewalks after dark [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► and so it's a it's kind of a big town [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► but at night at least in the early 2000s [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► still at night [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► there is nothing going on it's just big [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► open streets of the western town and not [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► a not a car in any direction and we're [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► driving through this down and Eric's [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► like well oh I'm getting something I [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► mean I it felt like we were ghost [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► hunters and then you know but his little [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► his little sniffer had more information [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► about what about the signals he was [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► getting and like it was more useful [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► information then then any sort of [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► diagnostic tool on any computer i've [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► ever had you know it was just like turn [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► right turn right like and I don't know [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► whether he was pretending whether he was [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► he was faking at and and I was gullible [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► and on the hook spelling it like a storm [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► chasing crew [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► yeah but we would eventually pull up in [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► front of some strange little motel that [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► would have like really hot Wi-Fi signal [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► or a panera bread and of strip mall [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► somewhere that was close but was still [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► broadcasting on password protected Wi-Fi [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► and we would sit there in the parking [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► lot all of us [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► charged over our our old laptops Wi-Fi [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► and all those those were thrilling times [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► and that and you know and that's what I [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► want I want I want my diagnostic program [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► on my computer to be a kind of sniffer [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► that sniffing out problems [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► that's right and saying like you know [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► what the problem is here the problem is [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► injustice improbable or the promise you [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► didn't want it enough or I shouldn't you [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► be doing something else [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► yeah the problem is extremely specific [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► that goes way beyond just with the bits [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► and bytes [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► yeah right like the all the diagnostic [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► the only solution that offers you are [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► turning your modem on them on and off [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► turn your computer on and off [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► is there a third option no I think [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► that's it I mean it'sit's it ask these [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► questions like is your computer plugged [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► in i hear you asking whether this [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► application might actually be a prank i [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► do feel like it's a prank because [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► there's got to be [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► I'm thinking of one infinite loop now no [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► I'm thinking of one cupertino plaza [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► that's where they send the people that [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► aren't what if it loop anymore [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► yeah one cupertino plaza which is kind [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► of a sixties style police headquarters [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► they just got the brown building and [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► upstairs on the 14th floor there has got [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► to be a section with the point where the [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► where the frosted front glass door says [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► you know lost and found property section [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► diagnostics and you go through that door [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► and there's you know there's a there's a [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► big long desk and and it's like a scene [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► out of the movie Brazil but they've got [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► to be 20 people working there right 20 [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► people let's say working in that section [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► it's not just one [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► hey you like harry reid person in a [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► green visor it's a team and they have [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► done nothing they have done nothing they [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► are sucking off the teat of that Apple [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► largesse and they had a sucking off the [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► teat of lecture that's yeah and no one [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► else know I apparently no one in that [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► company ever uses that because they they [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► know the lat [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► the last time they tried to use it was [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► 1998 didn't do anything and so they [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► unlike me never tried again yeah they [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► they don't keep going back trying to get [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► a different result of the same dumb tool [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► maybe I sold themselves by reading your [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► bug reports and reading everything log [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► files about how frustrated your here's [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► the thing i believe it never submitted [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► buggin ya work i never submit a bug [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► report because that is how that's how [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► they get the hooks in you that's how the [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► NSA figures out that you're a complainer [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► haha you know and they put us before you [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► get you pegged as a bellyache ER your [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► belly acre you're sending these bug [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► reports they're like we got a live one [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► over here and you know there are plenty [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► of plenty of people out there who are [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► submitting informed bug reports but my [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► bug reports would all be what the fuck [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► is wrong with your stupid-ass company [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and I'd get on some list my mom's been [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► saying this to me my whole life don't [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► get on a list [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► you don't got a list don't get on a list [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► of belly acres because listen Billy [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► acres i personally don't my mom [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► subscribe to a worldview where their [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► list of belly acres our alcohol so I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► understand so it could be something [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► where you call into comcast and say the [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► diagnostic says nothing's broken [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► what's going on with your with your with [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► your internet setup and suddenly your [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► accounts flag your belly acre yeah men [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► from then on every time you call to [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► complain they route your call through [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► some special bank of operators who are [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► there to deal with problem customers now [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► my mom's worldview is a little bit more [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► paranoid and she people it is that that [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► like there's some list at 911 or the [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► police department they're like we don't [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► send cars out to them they're crazy [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► oh but i know enough people in the [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► police department and with the EMTs [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► where they do the EMTs do you say we go [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► to that person all the time they are [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► just restarted my computer there's [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► nothing open not in safari is up but I'm [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► not even looking at pictures of old cars [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► google drive has been trying to get me [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► to do something I don't I don't know [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► what sign back in to Google Drive that's [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► happening on it [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► Apple drive whatever their apple drive [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► has been for the last for the last two [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► months [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► every time I go into by a apple mail on [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► my phone [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► let's see what the thing pops up here [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► and it says I go to reply to somebody's [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► email and that says although sign in to [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► iCloud over the Apple ID password [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► this is on your on your phone on my [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► phone and at some point i don't i don't [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► know how i got signed out of iCloud I [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► think maybe I change i don't know i [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► changed [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► sometimes that there's a bug that went [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► around recently where sometimes you have [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► to sign in three times right and at a [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► certain point the first time it was it [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► likes through that flag up i tried to [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► sign into it and nothing happened and [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► and maybe I tried a second time and [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► nothing happened so i just closed the [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► window and realize that i could continue [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► to send email i didn't have to be signed [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► in to iCloud to do any things that my [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► phone wants to do and so it became [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► another thing that I just ignore and it [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► throws up that the excitement iCloud and [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► I go close and then I said it's just one [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► more step one more vaguely irritating [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► step and I don't know what happened and [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► whether that means that none of my stuff [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► is being backed up to the clewd but [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► around your connection right now is [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► really really bad i think you might get [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► a bellyache your list do you think that [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► I should restart my modem ok this is all [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► so bitterly ironic you guys should do it [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► should I open up the window of my office [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► and shout I Matabele but i wanna get [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► all right let's uh let's disconnect the [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► kitchen and see if we can fix it i'm [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► gonna read I'm going to restart my moat [TS]

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00:39:50 ◼   ► and started up and you sound pretty good [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► did it [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► I mean I checked my diagnostic tool and [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► it is that restart your modem restart [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► your computer [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► yeah well you know what will give it a [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► spin welcome back everybody has run here [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► and not stick huh [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► I uh I can't prove this and I'm going to [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► have to do some experimenting previous [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► but i'm pretty sure i've been banned by [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► a thai restaurant really i think i'm on [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► the belly acre list [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► how so walk me through it okay i'll give [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► you the facts in evidence facts and [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► evidence are that there is a restaurant [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► so we use this app eat24 you know it's [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► like one of those you know online [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► delivery apps which you know as it turns [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► out most restaurants hate because it's a [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► real pain in the butt for them like you [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► know if you have a restaurant this point [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► you have to have like five iPads running [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► all the time to see all the orders [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► coming in and sleep they hated like [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► please just call us please just let me [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► use this place was really easy and makes [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► it easy like reorder what you've gotten [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► before [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► see just like reorder what I got next [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► time it's just I place that we really [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► like like it's okay i mean like you know [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► it's the food is really good delivery is [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► pretty spotty but ok [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► we used to order for them like [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► constantly like a lot like you know [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► sometimes once a week and you know is [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► that they say that the service and [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► delivery was spotty so I had a little [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► bit of a bee in my bonnet but so what [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► about the service was spotty didn't come [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► sometimes sometimes have you ever had an [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► experience with delivery or even a [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► restaurant let it easy like let's see [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► you go to a restaurant and it's not the [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► greatest service in the world but the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► food's pretty good you say hey you know [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► we ordered you know 25 minutes ago right [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► is how's everything going on I can you [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► know it'll be a few minutes [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► how you doing back there and then it's [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► three hours later and they're still [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► saying like oh it will be out in a few [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► you know what i mean but yeah nothing [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► really just actually just give me the [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► report like if there's not gonna happen [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► tonight just tell me and we'll have [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► something else right and it's nice that [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► you know the difference between a place [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that's like here you know here I here's [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► an appetizer sorry for the problem or [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► like your cup your coffees on me even as [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► a small thing but those places that come [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► that that you know that bring the thing [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► like an hour later and it's cold and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► it's got a booger on it yep and then [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► they're just like charge of the full [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► price [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► it's not really so far off from a kind [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► of United Airlines experience of like [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► well you know the planes gonna be [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► delayed i had this coming actually [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► heading out to portland on my last [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► flight where it's like there was [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► something right or the story is really [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► boring story but basically it's one of [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► those things really look it's gonna be [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► six hours [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► tell me it was gonna be cancelled can [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► you just tell me like just tell me if [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► it's canceled that's ok but they don't [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► want to cancel the flight [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► maybe in this case didn't want to cancel [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► the order anyway i'm certain you [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► everybody's had experiences like this so [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► in the case of this one place i guess i [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► don't remember the details its kind of [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► foggy all I know is they really ate [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► booger one night like big time they [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► screwed up the order they weren't [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► responding [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► maybe they did that thing where they [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► took it to the street instead of the [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► avenue that happens all the time but it [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► was was a total clusterfuck and I i [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► called and i was like what is going on I [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► was really mad friday night watching TV [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► it's like it's eating night right it's [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► time to eat this is the night that week [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► it was the one night we eat this is the [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► night we have television and like you [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► know I was like forty dollars with the [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► thai food somewhere presumably [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► and you know i have to say i am i'm not [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► so much this guy anymore but I can still [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► kind of sometimes be this guy if I'm [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► super mad and I got a bunch of [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► hard-earned money going into thai food [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► that might be somewhere that makes me [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► frustrated a certain point especially [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► when I feel like I'm not getting the [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► whole story [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► oh now wait a minute and this is through [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► an app right so the money is already [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► gone [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► he's already tomorrow initially I [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► working through there was something I I [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► don't remember there's been some [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► problems this place there's things like [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► we didn't have what you wanted and you [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► didn't call us to say you want to [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► substitute the computer went down and we [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► had no way to call you [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► there's all these different things that [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► happen you know a lot of is probably the [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► fault of these middle persons so usually [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► you deal with the middle persons you [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► never seen a messaging window talking to [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► long story short I need to know for the [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► story is i'm sure i was at least half a [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► dick with them but they did really screw [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► up and they were and it was just [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► everything about the experience was [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► really poor and they handled badly and [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► to some extent probably I handled it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► badly I was not as kind as I can be [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► yes very very kind I'm actually i accede [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► you've seen me i'm a polite and kind [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► person you're very kind and you're very [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► polite especially with strangers [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► yes my friends got no time for but I so [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► flash-forward I think we might have [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► ordered I feel like we may be able to [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► gain but i'm only knows another friend [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► that comes along and were like oh well [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► let's give it a throw again we get the [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► order we see repeat this order [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► everything is going fine until i get to [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► the checkout it says em we can't deliver [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► to this address [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► well that tells me that the app tells me [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► that can deliver to this adrenaline so [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► maybe they changed their coverage area [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► i'm thinking i might try ordering today [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► even from have it delivered to my office [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► and see what happens to you so fucking [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► smart [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► I have a feeling they got put on a list [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► as a bellyache ER haha i think that [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► think its ramifications you got put on a [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► bellyache your list and now they don't [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► deliver to your zone III think I've been [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► dzone I've been red line wow so do you [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► use the do you use the uber service [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► yes and are you are as as i understand [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► it now from following along the Twitter [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► machine [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► yep over to review is going on [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► Cooper rates you you rate / / rates you [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► okay now how's your how's your rating as [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► a [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► customer I'm so I'm so embarrassed but [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► every aspect of the story i'll avoid the [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► the apologetics and shame i think it was [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► a terrible company [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► unfortunately I've had maybe two cabs [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► ever come to my house because of where i [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► live right to end up using over or in [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► the case of being a Portland it was just [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► it was super easiest way and I feel like [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► a bad person let's say that for another [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► ok now here's my problem i'm talking [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► about this other places but I if i'm [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► reading my own music if i'm reading [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► anything I treat five stars like a [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► serious thing [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► no you're not going to get 5 stars2 just [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► any old oh my god [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► well here's the thing and I I've had to [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► really think about this because i think [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► it should be like a bell curve i think [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► most of the reviews for stuff is [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► probably going to be a 3mm if everything [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► and so here's my rate in the past and [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► I'm going somewhere with this in the [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► past my feeling has been if everything [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► went as well as could be expected plus [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► or minus twenty percent up well and plus [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► or minus 10 percentile get four stars if [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► everything went as well as could be [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► expected [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► everybody just did their job search [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► three starts coming after a jets bits [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► ob- succeeded at not setting the house [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► on fire you 3 stars three be happy with [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► three and then I found out that if [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► you're an uber driver and your rating [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► consistently drops below 4.7 oh you get [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► fired you go right into the shipping [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► container [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► yep and then they hit you with rubber [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► hoses and pour cold water on you [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► that's right that's right and and you [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► get a send your bill for it LOL 4.7 [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► points7 is a lot of stars you know what [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► i do now and also yes because i know [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► they they review me I just give [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► everybody five stars [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► yeah and if it tears my heart apart yeah [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► if you are so wrong but I I know their [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► rating me I know whatever it's a dumb [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► company it's just it's it's a mess [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► inside of a mess [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► so what do you do that well see i don't [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► use uber is for you used it a couple of [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► times I've spent more time in Hoover's [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► that were called by john hodgman then i [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► have spent in Cooper's called by anyone [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► else because a husband loves its or at [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► least he did I don't know what his [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► feelings about the politics are but [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► early on he was an early adopter and you [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► know he does that thing weighs like [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► we need a car and he you know bleep and [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► then all of a sudden a stretch limo [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► pulls up and you're like what the fuck [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► is this an easy and I don't know it was [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► the closest one like wow you get in [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► these things stretch limo come on [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► so you know he's living high on the hog [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► uh-huh i spent a lot of time in these [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► things but I have never rated anyone [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► knows I know there's no I don't maybe [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► there's a rating of me [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► oh I think I've never asked because I [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► kind of don't want to know [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► yeah but no but my so I do not tip [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► additionally because i feel like that is [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► against the principal got no and I don't [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► and I'm I'm course I'm very chatty [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► because i want to know all about [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► everybody i'm one of those people that [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► starts talking to the cab driver right [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► away and Blake indicate to me that they [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► don't want to talk that's fine but like [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► I want to hear but I want to hear their [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► life story because it's always [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► interesting huh and yeah I've told you [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► write the cab i had a cab driver in [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► washington DC one time to say to me like [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► you know here's the thing [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► oh yeah he wants to hear what your story [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► yeah he's like I tell my story 25 times [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► a day island our air train or something [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► yeah that's right he was from the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► retreat and he's like I want to hear [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► your story that's what's interesting to [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► me because you know like that's how I [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► learned and know that my customers are [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► interesting i don't want to just tell my [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► dumb story over and over and I was like [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► oh haha that's yes [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► alright i'm not doing you a favor by [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► asking you to tell me your story who I [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► should get in the cab [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► sit down and say let me tell you about [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► my day and that would be interesting to [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► us both [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► so that's what I feel like there's [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► something here that's not the opposite [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► of an eel but it's a compliment to the [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► problem of the Eels do you use ebay i [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► used ebay once [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► well it was in the nineties I I screwed [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► I i made it all the way to 2013 without [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► ever having used ebay and in the early [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► two thousands my girlfriend at the time [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► would was pretty big on ebay she's kind [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► of a big deal and we would go to thrift [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► stores and she would buy all these [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► things that were inexplicable too [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► like air jordans you know she would find [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► all this stuff that was not for her and [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► I had I was never a thrift store person [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► that went looking for stuff not for me [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► right i would find really cool stuff but [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► if it didn't fit me if I didn't want it [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► i would just throw it back into the pond [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► but she would you know she was she would [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► see some old Nikes and be like oh oh and [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► i could sell this and I would go why you [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► buying those that she's like.you never [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► you mind [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► and then she would put them up on ebay [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► and ship and sometimes sell them for a [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► ton of money because you could still [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► find somebody out there is gonna want oh [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► yeah and you can still find really and I [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► think you still can I feel if you're [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► that type of person but it used to be [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► early days of ebay you can still find [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► incredible stuff it just lying around [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and sell it to people for hundreds and [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► hundreds of dollars so she had this [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► whole sideline going independent her [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► nature was to be a little bit secretive [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► from me so she was all you know I'd look [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► over shortly be like what are you [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► selling those on ebay and she's like.you [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► never you mind like don't don't worry [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► about ever that that's my business [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► that's left for you but then in about [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► 2003 or 2004 remember ever have one of [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► those hilarious conversations that [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► reflect reflect on now where she's like [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► ebay used to be great but it's shit now [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► I don't even want to be on there i don't [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► want to do it anymore sucks and not [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► having ever been on there at the time I [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► was like wow [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► too bad i missed the i miss the time [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► when ebay was great and now it's 2004 [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► and ebay sucks and so I never I never [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► learned anything about it until two [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► thousand fucking 13 and I decide I'm [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► gonna ferrari rare and I go on their [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► number are gonna call center entrance [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► surfers solar like this is ten percent [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► less than wrenches in the store Newser [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► sorry but it's also but it's also a game [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► it's a game right i mean no I mean in a [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► pejorative I mean in the sense that like [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► the gaming and [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► respective ebay ms must be part of what [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► makes it detective well and it's what [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► it's part of what makes it suck too but [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► but there's a whole so on craigslist i'm [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► sure you know about the craigslist [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► lectures that people have in their item [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► you know whether like for sale [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► one iphone no flakes note you know know [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► this i will sell this only to a person [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► with high moral integrity who comes [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► directly to my house and stands there [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► contrite with hat in hand and asks me [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► for permission and calls me sir and I [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► will not I do not support you do not [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► call this number with any solicitations [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► you know like all these guys who are [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► just who are taking out their anger and [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► frustration in there craigslist ad [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► trying to preempt what they imagine is a [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► world of scammers and lowlifes and [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► doorbell ringer the only effective way [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► to keep those people away as to offer a [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► stern lecture editor lecture and do not [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► call this number if you have not have [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► crab prior military service and proven [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► your love America and it's just like [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► fuck you guys like each shit i want to [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► call this number and hang up now i [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► wanted i wanted to to to ring and dash [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► or whatever like i want to put a burning [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► bag of dog shit on your doorstep and and [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► it's not even Halloween but on ebay [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► there's this subclass there are plenty [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► of people on ebay who have similar [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► lectures but there's the subclass of of [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► of add that extremely pedantically i [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► would say even ebay splaining this is [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► the term explains that anything less [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► than a five star rating [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► you might as well yeah be pissing on [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► their face and so if you cannot give [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► them a 5-star rating then say nothing [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► but they do not want your four-star [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► rating they do not want your third star [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► rating if you give them four stars four [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► of a possible five it is tantamount to a [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► Scarlet Letter it's tantamount to [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► putting them in the public stocks and [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► makes you makes you sort of a tease [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► disabuse term it makes you a little bit [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► of a rating prick tease [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► it's like you took the time to do it but [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► you didn't do what you're supposed to do [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► with it [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► you didn't give him five stars that [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► you're supposed to give like Jenna yeah [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► that's right so like yeah exactly and i [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► know there are I'm sure the exact same [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► guys that are writing those craigslist [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► ads are also out there giving three star [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► ratings to people uh and that is that is [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► perceived you know that is that's also [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► similar to like the way i use periods in [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► in texting and it makes me seem mean all [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► right instead of ! read about this on [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► the internet that I'm not supposed to [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► use punctuation anymore because it makes [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► me sound angry [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► same here you're doing you're doing the [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► right thing which is saying you know [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► what it was fine i'm gonna ride behind [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► the packaging was fine that everything [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► was fine [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► it might have been better could have [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► been worse it was fine I mean you know [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► like the like I get stuff in the mail [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► and I and the only way you could [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► describe it is fine as long as there's [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► really only three reviews on the [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► contemporary internet it's either five [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► stars one star or no right so either you [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► give it the full five stars to get one [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► star cause you're mad or there's nothing [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► said but right and that and that offends [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► me because i have in my in my soul a [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► full panoply of star ratings more than 1 [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► and 1 like 1 vector more than one aspect [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► five stars of what [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► no thank you like with this kid that [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► kids getting the rate i'm glad to say [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► that i had a ride on the over the other [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► day and the kids playing super loud rap [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► music he had all the windows rolled down [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► he took a crazy route [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► what games 5 stars he deserved 2-0 stars [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► the the reason I think this is the this [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► is the facebook thumbs-down problem [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► right facebook finally needed a thumbs [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► down because there's just too much [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► desire to two thumbs down stuff and so I [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► i still haven't seen it I haven't seen [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► the thumbs down [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► what they've rolled it out yet or if [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► it's to have any I haven't even looked [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► at facebook i deactivated my kind of [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► looked at in years [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► yeah i'm going to just go ahead and [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► arbitrarily predict that this will be [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the thing to remember is the end of [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► facebook I i think i think you may be [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► right it because it creates a [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► capitulation to something that's I think [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► there's a whole lot of grenades rolling [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► around on the floor facebook that we're [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► not gonna hear about for a while I think [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► that a lot of the real name stuff is is [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► super fucked up and bugs me a lot but [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► anyway I don't go to the site but I'm [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► just telling you soon as I heard about [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► the thumbs-down I was like you're gonna [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► make it a little bit too real [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► yep it's gonna get in times he out there [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► but here's my question to you know this [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► is the big this has always been the big [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► question on facebook for me [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► somebody's post somebody you know but [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► not well and the post is my mom died [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► odia star it do you give that a thumbs [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► up i will see the light there [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► yeah but the Twitter version that was [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► somebody's dog died like to start to [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► start that when did you send response [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► somebody I've never actually met [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► I'm sorry for anybody who's dog died oh [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► my god that's the worst like I don't [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► know them personally I didn't even know [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► they had a dog but having your dog dies [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► sucks so do i send a response to get [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► into a conversation about a dead dog if [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► I started that seems a little weird but [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► so here is so here's the additional [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► complication you're on facebook [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► my mom died today and then you look and [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► it has 385 faves [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► so now you know if you do if you do [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► friend it or if you do smiley face it [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► you're in good company right 385 other [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► people have felt like that was the only [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► appropriate response [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► it's it's a little bit like a like a [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► high five or a hug you can be [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► interpreted in a lot of different that's [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► right it's it and and and said sense i'm [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► not even sure if you can still poke [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► somebody on facebook at band i'm not i [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► don't know I shouldn't be asking you you [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► know a time you can get something called [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► superpoke [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► haha there was smoke and somebody poked [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► me and I poke them back i understand why [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► we're poking each other- other thing you [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► can get from their little of this [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► downloading astoria from looking like [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► people fucking popcorn and you get down [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► superpoke superpoke well this is the [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► thing if I had a fucking dollar for [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► every superpoke up given oh no i'm [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► saying and what you have but i'd have I [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► would you know I would be a I would be a [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► professional gigolo instead of a a sort [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► of a hobbyist obvious but my question is [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► like you can't poke somebody when [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► they're mom died or i guess you can [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► presume that that's one that's one [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► possible response seems a little glib [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► but now if Facebook has thumbs down [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► options [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► oh geez mom dies do you thumbs down it [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► like that's so like somebody says hey my [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► mom died and somebody goes boo [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► yeah right like okay so are you are you [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► booing the news and saying that sucks [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► are you saying your mom was kind of a [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► dick to begin with or on a more like I [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► don't know Roland barks level are you [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► like criticizing the fact that they're [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► talking about fucking face exactly are [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► you thumbs down in the whole idea of two [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► of like this conversation like this [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► fucking sucks like don't don't clog my [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► feed with your fucking sorrow so on [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► YouTube right where there was always a [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► thumbs up and thumbs down it became it [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► was established pretty early on you [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► could put a video of Thomas Jefferson [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► himself reading the preamble to the [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► Constitution and [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► Constitution and [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► there would be 17 people that comes down [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► to it Yeah right just being an American [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► people than a huge more people remarking [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► on the like who would thumbs-down this [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► so people have no hard have no heart [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► right but that's at least that's baked [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► into the to the dat dumb interface and [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► the and the fact is you know we have [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► like the ability to communicate now in [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► real-time three-dimensional augmented [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► reality we do [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► oh I do because i'm i'm i'm hooked in [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► with the with the special class all we [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► almost do right you could almost have I [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► could appear on your desk and say Merlin [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► one kenobi help me you're my only hope [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► and then i would go to h and you'd be [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► like wow were there we are Jenner it's [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► it's you know a long time ago now in a [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► galaxy far away except it's now it's [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► here [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► and yet we are still communicating with [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► like semaphores basically then we only [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► have two semaphores a giant up some [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► added and now a giant down we need some [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► more fingers I feel like an AE [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► experience this with your period right [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► there has never been like there that we [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► have all this emotional top end to our [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► punctuation for her ! hyphens [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► uh-huh but there's this artificial floor [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► of the period there's nothing there's no [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► punctuation that goes below a period so [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► the period has become the default [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► lowest-rated lowest rating it's such a [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► shame because i'm writing something you [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► know informally like right now just [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► typing down like little notes entitled [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► things and where the sky called I'd I [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► don't feel the need to put a period at [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► the end of every line but to me when I [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► when I see something that doesn't end [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► with a period I kind of read it read it [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► as a a anything like an inchoate thought [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► or as a title especially if it's [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► entitled case but if I see something [TS]