Roderick on the Line

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00:00:20 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► I'm Merlin how's it going good to hear [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► your voice [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► it's good to hear your voice it sounds [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► really clear and crisp and present i'm [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► always trying to up my game [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► what have you done well you know I brush [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► my teeth a had two three coffees I've [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► had a smell towards oh I can smell them [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► from here [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► mm-hmm I know you know I'm I you know I [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► try you know not that hard its [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► podcasting yeah right exactly you know [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► doesn't seem like drop it's like you [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► really need to try that hard you know [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► remember when when when the when the [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► Pearl Jam first arrived on the scene huh [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► and you remember that music video for [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► the one about the kid that kills [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► everybody in his in his classroom and [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► yellow sun because they don't because [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► anyone ever has their your arm in there [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► and do your video [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► yeah great video very very very [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► evocative very current [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► I don't use that one of those but issues [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► it definitely was about issues but I [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► remember the I remember most distinctly [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► see I didn't have a TV then as now but i [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► but I did see that video a lot because I [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► just for my records you you don't you [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► don't have a TV at all right now [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► well it's not that I don't have a TV i [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► have a TV that I have a one of those [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► giant cathode ray tube tvs that was [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► given to me by my next-door neighbor ok [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► alright that that I haven't you know [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► it's not plugged in but I can't get rid [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► of because nobody wants ok so I mean I [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► open my own one [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► it's just actually attending I don't be [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► sensitive about it okay to continue [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► so at then as now he didn't own a TV [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► right or rather than I didn't know the [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► TV now I own a TV [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► mm I'm a TV owner but you didn't have [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► cable especially well I don't have cable [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► now and I didn't have cable but your [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► cord cutter clipped it clipped it [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► however i did see that video a lot [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► because MTV was still in its waning days [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► of ubiquity [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► and I remember thinking what is he doing [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► what is any better [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► mr. fetter what is he doing with his [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► teeth why is he baring his teeth was he [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► showing them to me [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► yeah with the big guy like this big [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► saucer eyes [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► yeah but all the it was all the teeth [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► that that's that freaked me out and [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► scare me yeah all the back [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► big big big like a teeth mouth mmm and [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► it was a style of singing that he was [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► broadcasting that I had that I prior to [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► that didn't know you know I knew the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► black open your mouth big and I knew the [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► hood Wow [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► but like he his mouth is an open it like [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► it's not open wide it's just that his [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► lips are open wide [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► who is like teasing you so then I was in [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► the recording studio many years later [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► and I was singing a song i was like [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► sitting in this song but I was just [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► seeing it you know normal like rubadoux [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► sort of in mypin my mouth in my brain [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► uh-huh but it just doesn't sound [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► articulate enough it didn't have the [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► clarity that I wanted it just sounded [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► like i was bored and so for whatever [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► reason I started to sing with the any [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► better like can you hear can hear the [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► difference in like seeing them talking [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► right now and then i'm gonna i'm talking [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► like this and though and it's like [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► brightened it up with the you just peel [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► your lips back off your teeth and only [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► Son some relevant like you've had enough [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► yeah all of a sudden it's just like I've [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► got all this energy and this stuff to [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► say because my my lips aren't in the way [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► of what of what my teeth are trying to [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► tell me [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► and so and I just like and I just had [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► all this sort of aggressive energy in [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► the song and I realized that that you [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► can convey so much by just how like [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► tight your lips are and how like much [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► I get them off your teeth mad get them [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► off so anyway that's what you sounded [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► like early when you first one it when I [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► first picked up the phone i was like [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► 'well Merlin's really baring his teeth [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► you think I'm being intense no not [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► intense but like good like em you know [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► the press [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► and i'm interested in face shapes you [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► know my mom was in sales and she said [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► something she did when she was doing a [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► real estate was whenever she would speak [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► to someone on the phone she would smile [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► and that when you see me smile while [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► you're speaking to someone it's [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► telegraphing to the phone he's you sound [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► a little crazy clown but if you try [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► smiling when you're talking you sound [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► happier when you smile the whole world i [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► got listen to you sound so happy right i [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► mean it's just right there in your in [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► your face your relevant now in a [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► different way [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► super smiley like ready to sell some [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► real estate [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► yes yeah right i mean i-i don't do that [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► enough and there are lots of people that [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► smile all the time just their faces are [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► just they just learn to smile all the [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► well you know this week on a ping-pong [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► corner I'm gonna tell you that when i [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► moved to san francisco i had noted to a [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► friend of mine that in my largely [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► predominantly Chinese neighborhood [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► mostly older chinese people [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► yeah I was really struck by uh yeah it's [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► just you against the kind of thing you [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► say when literacy was totally lose but [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► like the Chinese people do you suppose [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► the older chinese people in my [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► neighborhood [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► do not engage they sometimes engage with [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► one another but you don't see a lot in [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► public and they very rarely make eye [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► contact with or talk to people and I I [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► was a little thrown off right because [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► i'm from at that point north florida I'm [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► used to and even in the rest of San [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► Francisco ain't shit man people are [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► joining each other's conversations on [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► street corners in San Francisco all the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► time it's a very social town so I was [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► kind of struck by that night i said this [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► to a friend of mine did you have you [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► ever have you ever noticed this as well [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► no yeah actually I have and they said i [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► don't know this is true and forgive me [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► this ping-pong but that supposedly that [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► the whole like smiling all the time for [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► no reason is not a thing for chinese [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► people that it's considered I guess [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► maybe like insincere or maybe like [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► reveal some kind of weakness like you're [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► on your back on your heels a little bit [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► i don't know if that's true but some [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► people smile a lot more than others even [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► when they're not happy ending for [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► everybody smiles all the time [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► well right and nobody's happy nobody's [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► happy to in north Florida in my [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► experience in Europe which is the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► majority of my overseas experience [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► people over there consider Americans to [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► be fairly insincere not not just because [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► we smile [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► I'll artificially and for no reason but [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► also that we congratulate each other all [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► the time and that we say things that are [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► good ideas when they aren't right and we [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► just generally blow smoke up one [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► another's asses as a form of politeness [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► and particularly in the in Northern [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► Europe that is considered like a very [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► American behavior and very like untrue i [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► better make you seem a little bit like a [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► huckster yeah that's exactly right [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► this kind of visit the sense of like [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► that an American is trying to sell you [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► something is trying to put one over on [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► you right and particularly like the [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► Germans and the Dutch do not feel like [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► they need to be complemented they want [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► to be told the straight story and the [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► and the Danes seem to be similar [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► so I mean and down in this down in like [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► the Mediterranean countries it's not [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► it's not so true [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► they have different culture but for sure [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► the different culture of likes [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► compliments and smile but like in the [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► North boy mean i am not a particularly [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► complimenti effusive person but the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► first couple of times I got off stage [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► and came down and said at the merch [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► table and like it was a line of people [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► in each one of them was like it was not [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► so bad right now it's just pick up bags [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► I i read this book in the nineties [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► suggested by by my friend's father a guy [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► who did a lot of international travel i [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► think i learned about this book from him [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► or at least my interest came out of this [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► so he traveled a lot of Japan a lot [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► throughout Asia and yes also Europe and [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► was just talking about like the the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► cultural differences that you you really [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► forget these things at your peril and [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► one of them that really struck me was so [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► anyway this was led me to read this book [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► called kiss bow or shake hands and it's [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► basically a book for tingling Americans [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► about things that might surprise you [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► when you go to another country and [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► there's the things you've heard about [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► like don't show people the sole of your [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► shoe in like Saudi Arabia like those [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► things like that there's a lot don't [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► shake a left hand turkey don't spit on [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► the ground in Morocco [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► I can tell you for sure don't do that [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► because i had a knife pointed at me [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you're kidding [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► no I was it is that's the equivalent of [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► taking up taking a poop on the sidewalk [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► well no it was it happened at a very [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► inopportune time when I was young I [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► don't know if you ever experienced this [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► but like I went through a phase where I [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► I was spitting all the time I've had [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► faces for sure [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► yeah we're just like just I think every [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► teenage boy it's almost like a rite of [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► passage but I'm talking broad terms [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► today a lot a lot of teenage boys or [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► preteen boys definitely go through a [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► spinny thing I see in my neighborhood is [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► a huge spitting culture in my [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► neighborhood [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► yeah I i find it disgusting I don't even [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► I can't even identify with where I was [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► coming from the time but I just I just [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► spit a lot and I was in Morocco where [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► that is already like not a good deal and [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► I was in a public market in Marrakech [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► and I was this is what made it awful i [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► was actually negotiating with a guy [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► oh dear that's got layers yeah so I'm [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► sitting there and it's you know and i'm [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► not i'm not in the the market [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► I'm like out in front of the market kind [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► of in a in an area where people have [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► their wares out on blankets and I'm and [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► I'm negotiating with the guy over a belt [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► like a like a hold your pants up belt [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► yeah and I just at some point in the [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► conversation I just spit on the ground [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► and he reacted violently and it became a [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► big fracas and I was like I hate no I [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► didn't you know I meant no offense I was [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► just you know i'm 20 years old and I [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► don't know my ass from a hole in the [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► ground and you know he's like hit 2 30 [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► seconds before he was like you know [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► that's it will be 30 and I was like I [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► will you take 20 and he was like let's [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► let's say 27 and I was like why don't we [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► do 24 and whoa so so that was not just [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► like bad hygiene belly hate behavior [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► it was kind of a fuck you to him oh it [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► was some kind of anything was I wasn't [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► he didn't make an offer a nice [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► spit on the ground like it was was just [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► at going bad timing necklace that timing [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► but boy he really took it that way and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► and I think that that well I'd like to [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► say that that was the last time I ever [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► spit in front of somebody but then I'm I [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► moved to Seattle a couple years later [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► and i started drinking lattes [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► mm I like creates a lot of mucus yeah [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► I'd never had never had a coffee before [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► I came here I was 21 I was 22 and never [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► had a coffee and then somebody handed me [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► like this pint glass full of [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► half-and-half had one shot of espresso [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► and I was like this is the greatest [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► drink of all time right [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► why would have I been missing like I [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► should have sure this is are you sure [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► this is coffee [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► it should have been drinking that sanka [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► this whole time this stuff tastes [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► amazing and that for like nine months i [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► drink four pints of half and half a day [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► and I was just talking lose everywhere [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► until I realized that's not coffee its [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► yeah that's something else that's a [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► gateway nobody you would love in our [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► neighborhood just be walking down the [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► street [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► sixty-five-year-old Chinese lady comes [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► and just doesn't giant snot rocket out [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► of nowhere farmers hanky like my kid and [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► i'll be walking with his jaw and just [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► giant runny like nine inch long a booger [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► like hanging out there headed toward the [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► sidewalk [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► oh no boogers boogers so against boogers [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► now now here's the thing I I used to [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► think this was just a bit or just a joke [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► but people from i would say the UK is a [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► from england in particular I mean you [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► know there is a very sophisticated level [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► of code switching going on on this is [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► that the right word but but the thing is [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► it you know depending when I've been [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► England and you obviously dealt with [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► English people now you have them in your [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► car little boy and and the thing about [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► English people by and large especially [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► people from London i'm going to say that [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► I have met is that there is a very it is [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► almost like North Florida in the sense [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► that there is a lot it's encoded in what [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► people say and don't say oh yeah where [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► there's a high level of a parent [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► civility masking a lot of so [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► aggression hmm maybe not aggression but [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► like I said there's like a million ways [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► to say you didn't do that particularly [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► well did you know she would never just [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► say that was shit or something like that [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► but you know it's in fact is that whole [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► twitter account book called what's it [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► called like it's called something like [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► weirdly British problems and all about [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► like you know they need to be [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► ridiculously civil at all times [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► regardless of how you feel so like you [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► go into a retail store and you know the [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► people who are working in there are [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► incredibly civil but not very nice and [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► not very helpful you know what I mean [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► it's but that's that's what you get used [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► to em so I i would i would also [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► stipulate that like I'm the fish out of [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► water here like I'm the weirdo [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► so I'm gonna try to say that the way I [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► do things the right way it's just that [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► it is jarring when you go somewhere was [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► not expecting another one from that that [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► father the business guy was that he said [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► when you go to Japan for business [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► you usually go there for several days [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► and it's considered very rude to talk [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► about business during the first day [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► oh yeah I don't you tell me if you think [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► that's true but there's a lot of like [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► sitting in like a hot bath together and [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► talking about family and stuff or like [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► that you would just have a day of golf [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► where if you started bringing up the [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► deal on the golf course on the first day [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► you just look at total rube [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► oh yeah well I I feel like that should [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► be the way that we do business here you [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► know the way to do business not talk [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► about business first rule of business [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► yeah don't talk about business yeah [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► that's pretty good [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► first rule of business at the whole butt [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► and it's all it's all tied up in class [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► to you know i mean if you're from London [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► but you were born within earshot of a [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► certain set of church bells you have a [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► very different take on this then if you [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► went to the london school of economics [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► so that all of that sort of like [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► insincerity what what appears to us to [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► be in sincerity but is really deeply [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► encoded class behavior [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► i mean i-i can't make sense of it all [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► and i have i have close enough friends [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► in the UK that I have been [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► pop this up in you know sitting around [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► the dinner table at night like hey [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► something too curious when you say this [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► it appears to mean the opposite and they [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► kind of look at each other and go what [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► do you mean right in that they see [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► something like you say like hey do you [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► want to go sleep in a cabin for a week [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► and they say like oh that would be [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► lovely [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► yeah right which-- which means no [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► fucking way do I want to sleep in the [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► cabin [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► yea and all that stuff and you know [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► they're kind of their hearing it for the [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► first time it's really like a hamburger [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► hamburger bang bang yeah uh where it had [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► never occurred to them that the actual [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► words they were using and in some ways [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► the tone didn't line up with the meaning [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► and so it's like so deeply ingrained [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► right and I'm you know I'm sure it in [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► the u.s. there are equivalent like [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► incongruity these but but because of our [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► you know because of our Wild West [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► heritage because of andrew jackson we [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► really tell it like it is in this [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► country as long as what it is is a big [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► fucking snow job that's trying to get [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► you trying to get your wallet as long as [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► as long as that's what it is that we [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► tell it like that [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► let's talk about something about this [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► the other day that especially it feels [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► like in the south [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► maybe in the Midwest there's def always [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► feel like there's a thing [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► not always but I frequently feel like [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► that is that can be difficult to do [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► without seeming rude that there is a [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► certain kind of accepted like let's week [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► we should ask about each other's [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► families [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► mm maybe you might even like ask it's [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► pretty common ones place to ask how's [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► your health like there's all these kinds [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► of things you ask that kind of create [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► the environment for having a more [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► intimate conversation when you first [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► talked about these things and that that [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that is part of the standard opening [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► gambit and a lot of conversations is you [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► know let's let's talk about these kind [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► of general things before we talk about [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► these specific things well did you read [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► that are that there was an editorial in [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► to have one of the newspapers i'm not [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► going to say was the new york times it [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► was probably i don't know one of those [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► there's only three newspapers anymore [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► mm you got a new at that new york times [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► the Atlantic and the other one [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► yeah the New York Times The Washington [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► Times great newspaper at that sounds [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► like one of those made-up papers was [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► really just a blog the washington times [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► it was for many years owned by some [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► young moon [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► oh right right who bought a newspaper [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► and and you know try to establish it as [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► a serious journalistic enterprise that [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► just happened to also be a mouthpiece [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► now that church of unification is not [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► yeah the Church of a vm Unification [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► Church I guess I but this editorial was [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► a review somewhat a review of george [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► herbert walker bush's new autobiography [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► yes not great timing for junior not [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► great timing for junior where the the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► the Potter George sorry national junior [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► I should see what would he betray what [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► we called Jeb like his job is yeah [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► anyway John John John Walker Bush yeah [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► but Bush Senior like rips bush like the [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► George Walker Bush g-dub who ripped him [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► a new one says what we've all been [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► thinking like why did you seed so much [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► power to cheney he's a madman Rumsfeld [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► is how could she not [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► how could you be in the room with Donald [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► Rumsfeld and be comfortable with that [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► yeah right right well and the thing is I [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► mean Rumsfeld and and george herbert [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► walker bush had decades of history [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► together they ran against each other for [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► the Republican presidential primary and [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► what's 80-71 she'll run for president [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► well he was considered a real comer like [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► he'd been part of the Nixon White House [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► he was he [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► Rumsfeld Rumsfeld believes i think this [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► is part of rum sold problems Feld's [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► problem and part of the reason that he [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► belongs in the bottom of the salt mine [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► is that he believes that he should have [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► been president he thinks of himself that [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► way and there's enough history he has [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► enough he has actually a claim to [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► believe that that was plausible [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► impossible [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► ok was the young upstart and he oh he [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► went after george herbert walker bush in [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► the seventies really denigrating him and [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► so those two guys and that's when he was [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► in the CIA [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► well when I think he went after him even [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► before he got a point into the CIA but [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► like there was a lot of rivalry and [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► there's a sheet which I'm sorry shitty [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► to each other most of that shit coming [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► from Rumsfeld who was the he's very [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► Trump like Rumsfeld he is but he also I [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► remember like I would I would watch him [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► speak and I would always think even is [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► in his famous known and unknown the one [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► mostafa skating paragraphs in english [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► language history but you really [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► appreciate the one hand the guy is super [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► articulate and on message whether or not [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► you agree with him he's great staying on [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► message and he really has that vibe he [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► looks like a composite drawing of like a [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► bunch of successful powerful people he [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► looks like like if it's like Teddy [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson had a love [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► baby and he just has that like dad or [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► grandpa [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► viper-like even if you think what he's [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► saying is bullshit he seems really he's [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► really committed and smart [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► yeah which is a dangerous thing for men [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► like him I always felt like his his back [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► teeth were all made of wood [TS]

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00:23:10 ◼   ► supporting Roderick online writing they [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► were held together with like like bands [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► of tithing and maybe maybe that annoy [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► him a little bit me I like that he was [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► in his mouth all the time [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► softwood back there yeah so so the bush [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► senior is saying all this stuff in his [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► autobiography and somebody goes to Bush [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► jr. for comment and both juniors like [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► well he never said any of that in the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► eight years that I was president or the [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► two years i was running for president [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► beforehand never mentioned it before and [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► I disagree with him i was the president [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► I was the decider [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► I didn't Cheney didn't get to do just [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► what he wanted [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► I was the boss who you know meanwhile [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► Cheney's like got a seven sided [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► lighthouse made of dreams [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► that's surrounded by machine-gun nests [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► and the wooden you cannot write a [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► creepier supervillain any oh my god I [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► remember when he had the Naval [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► Observatory available inventory taking [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► off google maps Yeah Yeah blurred out [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► yeah because yeah god forbid that they [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► would we would see his hedges or [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► something with that he didn't understand [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► how it worked right is where his [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► man-sized safe google earth takes a [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► picture every six months and puts it up [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► there huh [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► and he thinks that you know they're [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► gonna catch him in the gardener's [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► uh-huh wearing flip-flops or something [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► but and I think the this article that I [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► read was written by marie no doubt who's [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► obviously like been a great critic a [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► great media critic for many years but [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► she was like this wasp family has didn't [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► talk about this stuff at Christmas like [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► your your father was president [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► your son is president now and you're not [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► going to bring up the fact that that you [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► hate you think that these people are our [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► bad choice like you both the father and [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► the son went to war with the same [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► middle-eastern dictator and made never [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► discussed it right and and and that is [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► like such a distinctively wasp a [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► methodology right that just like [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► Christmas can be stressful Christmas [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► you're absolutely right [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► you know sometimes you just want to play [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► uno or watched you know the price is [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► right because there are things there are [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► so many elephants in the room that you [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► really need a card game to keep it all [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► straight [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► it's true it's just that it it really [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► really drove home really put an [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► exclamation point on the fact that the [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► Bush family should never have been in [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► power in America they are bad people and [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► it was a bad top it was a bad decision [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► that we made repeatedly for reasons I [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► cannot and I don't think history will [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► ever be able to fully explain but like [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► unsuited to rule x by any measure except [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► that they are aristocratic and George [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► Herbert George what Herbert Walker Bush [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► at least was like patriarchal in the old [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► mode so he had a sense of this is 41 [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► yeah he had a sense of honor and duty [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► and wasn't going to say a bad thing [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► about a woman and wasn't gonna you know [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► wouldn't i wouldn't do a stock deal [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► where the SEC didn't sign off on it at [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► least you know but then his son was just [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► a like a brat and a and a shit just a [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► shit there's no other way you can [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► describe George Walker Bush GW Bush then [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► that he's a shit he's just a shit and he [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► was president for eight years and it's [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► insane [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► it still is insane I'm so I am talking [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► with my teeth bared right down here and [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► tell you so committed I am so mad that [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► he was ever president and this is a non [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► partisan issue it is not that he is a [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► conservative Republican because I don't [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► even think he is one [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► well it's basically it's one thing to be [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► crap it's one thing to say I didn't [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► enjoy the roast beef tonight and it's [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► another thing to say like I'm pretty [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► sure they deliberately tried to poison [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► us and like this there's this [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► conversation like from the time Obama [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► came in there's been this this feeling [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► of like let's not rock the boat but it [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► is kind of strange that there has not [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► been quite the public explosion of [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► outrage over what a shitshow that whole [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► oh my god i want these people held [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► accountable I want them to go into a [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► shipping container in the desert that I [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► have constructed and I want to feed them [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► that's right you had a whole idea for [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► jenny didn't want to feed them [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► psychedelic drugs in an environment [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► where i can control Nassau type [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► situation a long-term long con long [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► mindfuck in mind for I forgot about this [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► he did that was your whole idea for the [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► former vice president I still dream of [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► it and the thing is I don't want I want [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► to extend the franchise all the way to [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► lawrence eagle burger [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► mmm i want them all i want them all go I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► want every neocon and I was just out the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► thing is it is a long time i will take [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► them over the course of months and years [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► for the gas lighting to really work it's [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► gonna it's gonna have to be a very very [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► very long time it's not something we're [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► gonna full ad by turn the lights off [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► sometimes we're talking about you're [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► talking about like maybe you get him a [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► little healthy get him get him on a diet [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► game using a treadmill but like you just [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► a little bit my fucking time over like [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► to 35 years [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► the problem is that this challenge the [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► challenge for me like I feel like Lauren [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► seagull burger will be easy to grab [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► like you just say you know you're gonna [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► get a knock on the door my friend hit [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► the University of New Hampshire is [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► offering $15,000 to talk about a riad [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► like the politics current politics in [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► Riyadh will you come in lawrenceville [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► brother be like absolutely and then he [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► just shows up and he opens the door to [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the conference room and there's nobody [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► there and then somebody put a bag over [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► his head and all of us up please stop [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► really means in a shipping container in [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► the desert truly truly extraordinary [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► rendition but Cheney has already thought [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► of that right [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► Cheney has always he's already prepared [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► he knows no one's ever gonna put a bag [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► over Cheney's head because he's fuckin [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► penguin right is he's thought of that [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► already and Rumsfeld to write they both [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► they they check their six they've got a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► man station that they're six so how the [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► fuck do you get these guys it in the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► thing is you know there's this there's [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► the fight club thing where they go to [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► the bathroom there at a Rotary Club [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► meeting or whatever they go to the [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► bathroom and then all of a sudden Brad [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► Pitt is there and they threaten to cut [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► off his balls but that's not going to [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► work for these guys either the bathroom [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► is secured before they go in [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► so what do you do what do you do there's [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► wood Cheney I feel like he's out he's [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► doing he's like--he's fly fishing right [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► he's fly fishing at the at the Tony [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► Stark heart he be alive at this place he [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► and Scalia are like wearing hip waders [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► and they're in some Montana stream this [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► the hills are seeing shooting immigrants [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► for skeet [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► Oh are we here the hills are full of [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► snipers right because Scalia and cheney [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► aren't going to go just take a truck out [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► and find a river right it's going to be [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► so it's going to be completely [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► parameterize do but I've been waiting in [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► the river on here right for weeks your [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► black ops everywhere every summer I just [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► pick a different River I just [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► get my snorkel gear on him in the river [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► on utility like a reed with a lily pad [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► that's exactly right until that year [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► when they picked the wrong river i might [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► be misremembering this but I I feel like [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► in the last days of the what would that [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► be 1992 campaign I it got really really [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► ugly because I think I feel like I [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► remember it started to really look like [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► Clinton had a lock on it and do you [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► remember what I george HW bush like [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► remember how he got because he had [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► always been I you know see what about [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► the guy get the feeling he's probably a [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► gentleman like you would meet george HW [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► bush and babies i bet he's a super [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► smarter than he seems [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► I bet he's not as but like a lot of [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► people were president like they're like [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► really good people people but like you [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► need to like a whistle-stop train thing [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► where he was he was just a public dick [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► for like three weeks before the campaign [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► before the election but you and the [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► thing is it was like you could watch him [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► and it was it was almost like a faceoff [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► where Nicholas Cage is supposed to be [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► John Travolta you can see and when I [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► gotta kill people and act like a dick [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► are this is really hard to do you can [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► see like he's like you went to Yale ease [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► and gentlemen like he does not want to [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► be behaving this way but i'm sure all [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► these handlers were saying look man you [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► got to take off the gloves or you're [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► gonna have to move out [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► mm-hmm it was hard to watch I felt I I [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► felt bad for the guy even as I was like [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► disgusted by it [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► well so i ran for very off-brand my [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► uncle went to college with Poppy Bush [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► they were in college at the same time [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► and the new one another [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► this is yell yeah and you know my uncle [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► was tapped for skull and bones and said [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► no oh boy and not to not to out uncle [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► jack but he did not like poppy bush in [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► college for all the reasons that we [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► don't like him now he was a snob [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► he was a prick [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► and it was exactly the preppy a like [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► class-conscious rich kid that you would [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► imagine accept this was 1948 well so [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► wait now wasn't he used in World War two [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► so I went to college GI Bill he went [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► after yeah right they all did [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► ok that particular generate probably [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► didn't need the GI bill didn't need the [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► GI Bill he was going to yell anyway but [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► you know and this was and when I think [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► back to that particular time [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► 4648 you know that class of 50 let's say [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► there were some people in that class who [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► had just turned 18 and we're going to [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► college and the war was over and then [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► there were other people in that class [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► who were 24 years old had become a cat [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► you know like a like a first lieutenant [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► in the Navy and had just had won the [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► Distinguished Flying Cross and been shot [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► down over to record or Corregidor sorry [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► to record or that's a kind of spice that [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► you put in your not rank rookie mistake [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► corregidor and uh and so you're sitting [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► in class and that guy's a freshman too [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► he is wearing you know he he he [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► the the French government gave him the [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► legion of honor but he's like taking the [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► same freshman philosophy classes you who [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► just graduated from high school that had [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► to be a crazy time [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► mhm that had to be a weird time to [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► pledge a fraternity right like well [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► let's see we could take you or we could [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► take this guy that the president of [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► Delta Kappa Epsilon graduated as a [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► member of phi beta kappa 1948 with be a [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► BA in economics phi beta kappa so that's [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► it so he was you know he got good grades [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► he was on an accelerated program to [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► graduate in two and a half years rather [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► than four but as you know the rich [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► people can pay for anything they can pay [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► linkage on phi beta kappa or make a lot [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► of friends this week [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► you know your professors not going to [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► give you a bad grade if you're if you're [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► you know if your pad in their nest [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► everybody's on the take em at Yale I can [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► break you think so [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► oh yeah that's not a miracle is a [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► corrupt organization library by their [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► very nature the Ivy League's allow you [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► know they let in that certain like [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► fifteen percent of just legacy kids and [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► that should focus just buy him in the [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► thing is that that's true i think of [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► most colleges [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► yeah you know and so if you haven't I [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► think our bodies win [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► no no I mean I I try to imagine hodgman [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► and Colton at their respective high [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► schools uh huh and now they were both [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► they were both nerds they got good [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► grades [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► uh-huh Colton is a legacy his father [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► went to Yale and his grandfather I [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► didn't know that but he also grew up in [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► a really weird small small Connecticut [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► town where with a high school graduating [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► class of like 40 or something and so in [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► a situation like that like i was talking [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► to argument about this the other day [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► he's like the problem is if your kids [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► want to go to an Ivy League school and [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► they live in New York you can pretty [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► much say forget it [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► unless you're rich because those schools [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► fill the fill those slots based on a [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► kind of you know we need one [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► we need one Athabascan and we need [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► somebody from New Mexico and we have [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► 17,000 applications from park slope [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► brooklyn and so it's the brooklyn people [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► that aren't going to have a chance at if [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► you are from a small town somewhere if [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► you're the only the only person in your [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► high school class you have a much better [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► chance because you'll fulfill their you [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► know their demographic spread so i think [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► i think both those guys you know earned [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► that but how do you you know how do you [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► know really when I when I wanted to go [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► to Yale which I desperately [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► did desperately did that the school you [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► most want to go to it was the only [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► college that I wanted to go to and when [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► i graduated from high school I had not [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► applied to any colleges because the only [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► college I wanted to go to Yale and I [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► knew I couldn't get in so why would I [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► was going to go to the University of [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► Pennsylvania forget about its safety [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► school but no I was gonna go to [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► Middlebury around everywhere and just [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► fucking play What's Wrong around i'm not [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► i'm not a safety school guy i'm not [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► gonna go to rutgers hear it for great [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► yeah I settle for second best so [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► everybody knew you're going places John [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► not everybody not to say that you know [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► you didn't graduate literally last in [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► your class in high school but you know [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► you might be one of those uh you know [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► what three to five percent let's just [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► give the kid a chance we'll bring them [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► into Yale this is the thing i thought [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► what when you're you really want a [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► demographic spread ya got everything [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► lined up every once in awhile auto pick [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► a guy that not only graduated last in [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► his class but also didn't apply [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► yeah oh that's lighter school right you [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► didn't come to give you the tap this [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► yeah come on over this way that's your [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► demographic spread I mean it's like it's [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► like when I when I got involved here in [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► local politics recently you might have [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► heard of it [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► how that go you know it was it was a [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► learning experience learning space and [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► one of the things that I learned was [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► people of people from a great wide swath [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► of like that the great demographic swath [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► if they're if they're all lawyers [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► they're all they all think like a lawyer [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► first [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► like if you go to law school and become [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► a lawyer in our successful lawyer you [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► think like a lawyer before you think [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► like anything else and so you can fill a [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► room full of lawyers from around the [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► world but you're just really going to [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► have one type of person which is lawyer [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► and so you you know when you're looking [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► at a at us at at a spread of ideas or [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► like true sort of interesting like bell [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► curve of people you should be looking [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► out out at the fringes in three [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► dimensions but yelled and yelled just [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► wasn't wise enough maybe [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► they didn't have the resources just to [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► scour every high school maybe it was a [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► rebuilding year I know maybe you know [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► what maybe maybe they just were not on [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► their game and you know bad on them [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► yeah they let me to not to not know that [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► you were out there should be there [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► whether you knew it or they know it or [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► not well and you know what here I blame [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► my uncle Jack because he's the fucking [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► Yale legacy his his daughters went to [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► Yale both my cousins they all looking [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► out for themselves looking out for each [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► other [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► typical but when it was time for Uncle [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► Jack to call up the local Yale [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► representative whom I knew it was a [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► shepherd elys dad Bobby Lee was the gale [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► guy who interviewed the kids in [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► Anchorage who were going to Yale Bob [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► fucking ely Bobby Lee who incidentally [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► got in trouble with the SEC himself [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► later but that's it prevents difference [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► to him Bobby Lee but the thing is they [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► were all contemptuously even my own [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► none of them understood me Bobby Lee [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► especially wooden test [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► sheffer Shepherd went to the fucking [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► international school in Switzerland [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► because he couldn't even get into a [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► fucking american college but then he [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► went to university of vermont later [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► another safety school [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► yeah so I feel like everybody let me [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► down my whole plan let me down now what [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► a disappointment John yeah I think he [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► find your heart to forgive everyone for [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► obviously not i'm now I'm trying with my [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► teeth bared are so committed [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► I'm sure Uncle Jack and Bobby Lee SAT [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► around and they were like are there any [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► kids and in Anchorage that should that [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► just should go to Yale and they looked [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► at each other and they knew but didn't [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► even need to be said [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► yeah and then they were then check the [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► box know em now what about your dad [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► what was his feeling on this is he [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► always knew you were destined for great [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► things right [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► yeah well so my dad was up to mines like [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► like his son right always of two minds [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► and one of them was there's nothing he [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► hated worse than a preppy snob [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► son-of-a-bitch your dad was always a man [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► of the people he was standing there in [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► in the trenches with the unions he was [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► always pulling for the little guy that's [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► right and he didn't like a preppy snob [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► son-of-a-bitch [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► he always told the story he was down in [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► Palm Springs [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► at a party and George where hauser was [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► there and the you know the bones were [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► there and that it was all the old guard [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► and stand around cocktail party somebody [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► walks over and goes hey David nice to [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► see how the Communist Party I'm I told [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that story before I think so i hear it [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► yeah it's a great story hows it how's it [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► going how's the Communist Party David [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► all man he was mad he was mad because [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► you know little reductive a little bit [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► of this little bit of a slur so so dad [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► didn't like a preppy son-of-a-bitch but [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► the best way to deal with them is to get [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► into their club and then not be one of [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► them move to get tapped for skull and [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► bones and not do it and say no say no [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► because you're not a ceiling effect that [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► kind of change you got to get inside you [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► get to the server and cracked the [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► encryption that's right so you know so [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► dad obviously wanted wanted me to but [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► but but that this is the thing they all [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► wanted me to get in there on on merit [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► and say things a little on the nose [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► well and they just have such a narrow [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► definition of Merit to grades [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► yeah tests great havior you know and and [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► not looking at the bigger picture which [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► is like light in the eyes which is [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► fucking rainbow double rates of triple [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► rainbow triple rainbow eyes and and [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► again this gets us back to the problem [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► it's like the gamer back to the problem [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► with you being a retired general or [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► retired director of the CIA [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► it's like they don't need another foot [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► soldier they need somebody to reform the [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► organization from the inside out in the [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► top down and in really in every [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► conceivable direction you have the [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► vision for that they don't they don't [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► need another person sitting there like [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► spying on somebody in east germany they [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► need somebody setting everybody straight [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► so this is something I look I realized [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► last night because I went to this new [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► James Bond movie [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► oh dear and you know the nadir of James [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► Bond movies was Skyfall what the fuck [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► are you saying [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► worst James Bond movie by far even be [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► thinking I think we have a bad [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► connection even the worst Roger Moore [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► even George Scott even the Georgia [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► laughing me you're so fucking high sky [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► falls great know it's awful it's too [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► it's truly terrible against the hoping [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► it's an abortion but we take his teeth [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► out i was very freaky doesn't belong in [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► a James Bond movie right [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► in any case so i go to the new one and [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► I'm like alright Skyfall was the bottom [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► and now this can't be worse so it has to [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► either be like on a plane with it or up [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► or an improvement but i'm going to go [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► into this assuming this is going to be [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► terrible and then the movie unfolds and [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► it is better than Skyfall yeah but still [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► like just just dull i mean i'm in a [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► James Bond movie and I'm i'm looking at [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► my watch it was good you know what that [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► now because just like really you guys [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► and then I realized what my one of my [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► colleagues are ready for this yeah this [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► is just this was like a fucking bell [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► going off and you have a lot of time to [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► think about your future but because i'm [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► sitting in a movie and I'm like what am [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► I going to think about clearly not the [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► plot of this movie and then I realized I [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► am I was put on this planet to be a [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► script doctor for action movies [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► see I don't want to script doctor a [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► comedy because when I want a comedy when [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► a good comedy movie i can i can sit in a [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► movie that's a bad comedy and go oh my [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► god this was fucking terrible hard to [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► fix the comedy if it doesn't have good [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► those yeah exactly and but the end and [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► the difference is when a good comedy is [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► happening you know you're watching a [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► movie you don't even notice and I'm just [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► swept up just like anybody I'm I'm i [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► can't believe it's happening either you [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► know I don't see where the the seams are [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► I go oh my god this is fucking fantastic [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► did you see that movie Spy yeah watch [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► the first half of it [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► yeah I've heard it gets better as you [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► watching it it doesn't get better i love [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► that lady and she she made better [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► choices I think she's one McCarthy is [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► one of the comic geniuses alright i'm [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► melissa mccarthy just skills that movie [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► she's hilarious throughout the thing and [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► I walked into that with my nose already [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► crinkled up like I was [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► she isn't entirely accurate little it's [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► a little bit like will ferrell or or uh [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► Eric Wareheim were like there are [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► certain people who are just fucking [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► funny like Eric Wareheim in that aziz [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► ansari show like just just when he's on [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► screen just went to show his face I [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► start laughing welfare I just start [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► laughing look are they just started [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► because they're just basically funny [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► they have an energy certain people have [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► an energy that they can make even the [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► shittiest thing super funny just by [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► standing there [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► yeah and I'm not diminish her that's not [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► to diminish our talents which are many [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► but she is just basically funny so I [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► hope she chooses things that are worthy [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► of her funniness yeah well you know [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► that's the problem with funny like John [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► Belushi he made a lot of terrible movies [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► 1941 did you see that the wedding movie [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► with the kristen wiig just here in that [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► with all your eyes minutes [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► yeah i did see if I was utterly utterly [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► unprepared for how funny that movie was [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► very funny movie [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► it's got its got it's funny all through [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► but it's got and she keeps that thing [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► running but there are 45 legitimately [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► over-the-top set pieces that I think are [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► pretty classic yeah right that's why I [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► but I just got that pretty boy in it [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► right it's got that as a good law [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► the thing is everytime that there's a [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► dude on screen in that movie that the [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► air goes out of the room [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► yeah they put a bunch of they put a [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► bunch of dudes in there too like [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► alligators rose byrne in that too [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► no no the pretty pretty fancy lady from [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► from you know she's going to get married [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► in the ones are Carol yeah she is yeah [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► she's more McTaggart in the x-men movies [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► that right i know it doesn't help and [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► also I you know I realized a long time [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► ago I don't know the names of actors [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► because i don't care about their lives [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► ok says spy oh so anyway not spy because [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► by was a good movie and the thing is [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► what was good about it I understood and [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► appreciated but i could not have done [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► right I couldn't have gone in there were [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► parts of spyware the script where it [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► felt like the script was being written [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► by a committee and one of the people on [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the committee was hilarious you can [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► really sniff out the doctoring sometimes [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► because you'll be hilarious little jokes [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► and missed and not very funny plot and [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► not very funny execution and you can [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► feel like oh this thing got dr. by [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► Patton Oswalt probably help with this or [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► something right [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► well I'm like third thing is thirty [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► percent thirty-five percent of the movie [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► Spy is hilarious [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► it's just that then sixty-five percent [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► of the time the joke gets set up and [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► then doesn't land and it's not that the [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► actors aren't landing it is that it is a [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► badly executed badly written joke huh [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► and you go if you can do thirty-five [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► percent of them so well why didn't you [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► just let that person right the whole [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► fucking movie but but that is not my [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► that is not my calling so there's [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► there's something different about the [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► action movie genre or an action movie [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► doctor could come in and you are you [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► assuming good bones [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► well so every james bond movie has as [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► its edits premise right i mean the basic [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► foundation of James Bond is our good [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► bones [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► here's this here's the spy and he's then [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► there's a bad guy [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► it's just sort of you know it's like you [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► can start a James Bond script and read [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► it through and there's always going to [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► be good stuff in it there's always an [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► opening action sequence that in the old [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► days kind of wasn't even related to the [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► film it's like the opening sequence was [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► it just to remind you that James Bond is [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► incredibly is an incredibly gifted [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► badass [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► yeah right and this is just ski off of [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► stuff we can there's lots of underwater [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► lot of shooting sharks and stuff right [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► and it was always be it was released the [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► classic James Bond movies of my [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► childhood the opening of the film the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► cold open [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► who was the end of his last mission [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► before he begins the new mission right [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► and so it's it can be a great little [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► three-and-a-half minute long adventure [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► movie kind of like that wonderful scene [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► at the beginning of inglourious basterds [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► right was set up in with the that's the [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► one where they're hiding under the floor [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► oh my god i love that movie right [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► oh my god that scene i've seen that [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► movie probably four times and I still I [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► still find that scene incredibly [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► riveting it's it's hot it's horrible [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► it's hot so good stuff was so nice any [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► other french guy so perfect so perfect [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► because they don't overdo the whole like [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► okay now let's show the people scared [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► under there under the floor they just [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► ignore them [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► no there there the whole time you're [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► just like was gonna was gonna discover [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► is always getting let you know that he [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► knows it and the rest of the movie [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► doesn't live up to it right now it's [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► definitely got moments though it does it [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► does for sure but I final there's [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► something about the horrible horrific [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► mass of that final frame that I did this [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► despite myself I'm like yes it's so [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► awful i cannot i was rolling my eyes so [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► hard at that point that you could hear [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► my eyes rolling in the back of the [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► theater it sounded like bowling balls [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► my eyes were rolling so hard anyway wi [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► right but you're talking about like [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► they're the setup it's yeah this is this [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► is a classic trope in I think bond made [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► this a thing but now you start off your [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► actually maybe something immediately [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► grabs you [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► it might be a non sequitur Batman you [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► take the dark knight starts out the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► heist at the beginning although I mean [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► that's an example of like the nonce the [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► great non-sequitur but it also relates [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► to the rest of the movie right it's the [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► you're establishing this new character [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► absolutely umm so so there are all these [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► things that you can do in the James Bond [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► movie where it's like there's that and [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► then there's he's gotta go to Rome and [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► he's gotta go to somewhere it's got to [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► get his gadgets like Harry Potter it's [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► kind of the same each time you gotta get [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► ready for school in this case you gotta [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► go he's got to meet with him he's got to [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► have a visit with q1 stuff in the [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► background [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► yep there's got to be a gadget a car [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► somebody's got to say James you can't do [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► this you are James you're on suspension [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► and then he goes barb gravel all and [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► then he's like somehow has access to [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► unlimited funds is also a woman who died [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► a woman has to die yeah and there's [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► gotta be you know there's gonna be sexy [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► times your master sure yeah so so yeah [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► the bones are always there [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► the question is how do you flush that [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► out and the and what's great about [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► casino royale is that it's all flushed [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► out exactly the way you want it right [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► the and it's gritty it's it they [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► successfully made the transition to a [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► gritty yeah James funny the younger like [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► it's supposed to be an especially at the [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► start that's when he started when he's [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► getting his double oh right yeah that's [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the that it is getting the reboot reboot [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► it's the one where Spock is young and [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► cute and Kurt ok using the app wall [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► during Kobayashi Maru right got it [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► so uh so but but so i'm watching this [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► film and i'm just sitting in there i'm [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► just taking off like you know what all [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► you need to do to make that scene work [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► was this and you didn't do this i cannot [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► even fathom how you didn't it's staring [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► you in the face and to choose anything [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► else but to do this is to miss the [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► entire game like tip is to not is to [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► fundamentally not understand how James [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► Bond movies work and who are there were [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► 800 people involved in the production of [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► this film and no one in a position of [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► authority could stand up and say hey [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► what if we just did the most obvious [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► thing right now which would improve the [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► movie and like and it does it wouldn't [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► even it's not expensive [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► it wouldn't even it's just it's like a [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► lot actually got like a plot point just [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► a tiny little it's not even a it's not [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► if they're there are some plot points [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► where you go [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► we got all the way here we've spent [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► we've spent 80 million dollars are [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► hundred million dollars making this [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► movie 245 million we spent 245 million [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► dollars making this movie and the entire [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► film hinges on a moment where James with [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► his pistol shoots at 200 yards an [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► inexplicable valve that is connected to [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► an oil refinery its most of a football [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► field in length with his with his pistol [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► with his pistol and as it's pretty good [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► shot and hits like a hits of a valve [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► which there is no explanation for the [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► existence of em of which there is no [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► explanation [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► vana existence right like and so then [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► all of a sudden there's a scene that's [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► like taken directly out of a out of Road [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► Warrior 2 [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► let's call it we're just like why is [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► this happening there is no this was [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► supposed to be a solar bids it is in the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► two seconds before it is revealed to be [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► a solar-powered facility [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► as they're walking across the facility [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► it is revealed to be solar-powered [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► uh-huh and that is supposed to [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► communicate to us that it is technology [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► that's tech techno town but then right [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► in the center there's a valve on a pipe [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► which shooting it once causes the entire [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► facility to explode into an oil fire [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► oh you get the desktop problem come on [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► yeah that's that one vulnerability [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► yeah it's just like its relation to put [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► some kind of a box around that student [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► want brats you look and you talk about [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► that in beggars Canyon thought about it [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► beggars Canyon will use your just [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► nailing watch rather than two meters so [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► what I'm saying is bullshit and you [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► could just [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► it could just be something else you know [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► what I mean it could just be something [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► else it doesn't have to be that we just [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► something else [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► there's a there's a control panel inside [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► where the solar power do you turn the [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► knob and the solar power goes out of [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► control because solar power and you [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► don't mess with that stuff [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► no it redirects the sun's rays into some [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► kind of collector that overheats and [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► that it causes it to explode just don't [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► fucking bullshit me with the shooter [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► valve so there's 40 moments like that in [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► the film we just go all you needed was a [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► script doctor to just go through this [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► with the comb that's it so see looking [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► definitely admit then that scaffold [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► definitely better movie Skyfall had so [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► much of this in it [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► we're just like wrong wrong wrong wrong [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► that the the villain could be the [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► villains great i mean i love the actor [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► love him and the whole like but the [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► entire film and all this guy's like it [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► was all a trap all along that it wasn't [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► all thought he wanted to cut it was all [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► because he was mad that he was all he's [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► mad at em because she was the mom that [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► she was a bad mom em like no no no let [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► him she let him die have a better [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► fucking idea at the center of the movie [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► it wouldn't even take that much you just [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► sit and think about it for another two [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► it's not that he's mad at em he's mad at [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► em it's you know he's mad at something [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► sure he's a villain [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► mm but he's not destroying the world [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► cuz he's mad at his mom like that's his [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► matter is not even mom is making his mom [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► his mom you know [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► no no it's gotta be he's got to be even [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► he's got to either be crazier than he is [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► to justify that or there or the crime [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► has to be worse don't you like there [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► were rats in a barrel speech that's [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► it's nice and whatever the mercury [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► poisoning i mean there's a lot of good [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► stuff in that and there is with cyanide [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► John whatever anderson and then but this [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► that we're home erotic thing or James [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► Bond the charity is coming up he's got [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► his mainframe is going and you didn't [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► like that [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► what about later the shot glasses like [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► that no no i didn't like those because [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► i'm prepared to casino royale where they [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► are literally they are torturing his [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► balls and his balls in a way that that [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► legitimately feels like torture [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► yes every time they whacked him under [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► that chair with that thing I'm a barber [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► they're not just a inconveniencing him [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► with a chair no no they're whacking his [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► balls really really hard literally [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► hanging underneath [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► yeah audience was sitting in a chair [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► with no bottom so that's some fucking [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► hardcore shit [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► well what about the park or at the [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► beginning just like balls smack and come [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► on yes I do like a little balls man [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► literally you know what Merlin what you [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► want to be honest I like a little ball [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► scolding oh this is sure this is your [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► growing as a person when you're scolding [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► I'd like to sculpt the balls rather than [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► wack [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► okay fair enough fair enough I you know [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► what also just a terms of our ongoing [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► continuity you talked about macau a [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► couple weeks ago and I couldn't remember [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► where I knew the name from and now I [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► know what I know the name from is it [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► from a James Bond movie it's from [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► Skyfall the sky for ya [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► time for another scene where they set it [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► up so well so great and it's got the [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► lady in it may enter the gambling and [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► the bend the bag full of money you love [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► bag full of money i do love a bag full [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► of money but then the breath the end of [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► that is just too its just read the guy [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► falls into the pit it's like the doll [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► with the Komodo dragon it doesn't even [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► live up to [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► I mean when you're talking about [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► Octopussy who write when you talk about [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► Moonraker those are some scenes where [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► the bad guy gets his company with [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► Lawrence [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► the alligators that little guy that's [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► what I know that's the one he doesn't [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► sharp [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► sharp [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► tank the that's always a clown jaws [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► falls into the shark tank the child came [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► later the cloud came later that was that [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► was the kind of thing I was gonna think [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► it's not sure how you see the very [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► stones when a casino my boy had a [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► playboy with her and and off longer in [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► it did you into t remember early [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► eighties there wasn't sure do [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► yeah that's right there was a parody [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► Playboy and they only made one issue as [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► far as i know it was a it was a full-on [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► parody of playboy where they had [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► nakedness in it it was that it was the [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► National Lampoon era who and I got ahold [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► of this parody and the centerfold was [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► Princess Diana blue jeans they had [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► superimposed princess diana's head on a [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► naked lady and for me at the kind of [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► thing you sent James Bond out for right [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► at age 12 I was very affected by this [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► but it was a little awkward too because [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► you know Princess Diana she was good she [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► watches can on the wind [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► yeah she's a good girl and you didn't [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► want to yeah you didn't want sure yeah [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► sure you don't want to file her essay [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► that for later when you're when you're [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► older little more broken inside [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► that's that's right at that age I still [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► was pure is that we're going to say the [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► innocence for later so action movie [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► script doctor now 22 there are a lot of [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► guys out there and being gals to [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► presumably who have that job there on [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► the list and people are like how this [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► movie script isn't that good [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► what do we do let's call the script [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► doctor and let's leave the comedy script [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► doctors aside let's find the action [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► movie script doctors but whoever those [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► people are they're doing a fucking [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► terrible job because action movies are [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► by and large terrible they don't have [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► the snap and crackle of this where the [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► script is alive because there's this [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► sense of like we can't make it too smart [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► it's got a its got to be like at the [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► six-year-old boy level here except we're [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► going to show incredible violence and no [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► child should ever witness you don't [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► think about the plot too much and so [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► when you see it when you see an action [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► movie that where the script does crack [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► you're like oh thank you thank you my [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► god thank you [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► yeah and I could do that job and the [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► problem is just like getting into Yale [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► those people are not looking outside of [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► their up there like patrimony asst [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► rolodex it's a kind of it's kind of a [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► sickening professional myopia no one is [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► listening to this podcast and no one [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► none of those people are real or if they [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► are listening to this podcast they're [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► not identifying themselves in its a [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► salty sea air calls interpolation they [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► don't know you're talking about them i'm [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► talking to them you're talking to them [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► specifically and there's somebody else [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► you need a doctor to call the doctor [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► that's right then they're like they're [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► it's probably michael bay is listening [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► to this podcast is like did they just [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► say my name [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► I've been a loyal Roger Kahn listening [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► from the beginning and I've been making [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► transformer movies or whatever and I've [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► been doing a shitty job of it I don't [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► know what to do about it [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► yes i did that Rob Corddry move with the [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► rock I didn't see that I know I know [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► Rob's a good prompted me to the premiere [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► for that was really weird i saw Michael [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► Bay super weird lately [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► yeah lets you talk Michael Bay know he's [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► kind of dolorous he kind of looks like [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► Sam Sheppard means for Hertzog but satyr [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► mm he's got a certain he's got heaviness [TS]