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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 183: "Here Comes Nacho"

 

00:00:00   this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

00:00:02   brought to you by cards against humanity [TS]

00:00:04   this week they ask paul and storm to [TS]

00:00:06   help me say hi to john this [TS]

00:00:21   [Music] [TS]

00:00:25   I got all big on a John I'm Merlin I had [TS]

00:00:38   a little bit of a technical snafu there [TS]

00:00:40   you know I gotta tell you John Roderick [TS]

00:00:42   as I sit here today I think technical [TS]

00:00:45   snafus might in some ways to find your [TS]

00:00:46   life these days [TS]

00:00:47   hmm learning goals now boo I got a lot [TS]

00:00:50   of snappers I got all I don't pay a guy [TS]

00:00:53   or a food you're a fool just and manga [TS]

00:00:57   online man that sounds good so good road [TS]

00:01:01   to ride as a good road to ride somebody [TS]

00:01:02   good road you know if I fooled the guy i [TS]

00:01:05   don't know maybe you get bored when [TS]

00:01:07   you're driving a train but i don't think [TS]

00:01:09   i was I don't think it's-- that guy [TS]

00:01:10   seems like he might call ahead [TS]

00:01:12   well yeah that's that's exactly right [TS]

00:01:13   like what keeps it moving you're gonna [TS]

00:01:15   stop eventually what keeps him from [TS]

00:01:16   coming down out of his switching tower [TS]

00:01:18   and walking to have been saying all [TS]

00:01:20   right you still owe me the money for [TS]

00:01:21   whatever your pig iron rig and you can't [TS]

00:01:24   just roll through here with pig iron you [TS]

00:01:26   gotta stop it man [TS]

00:01:28   iir our listeners can be familiar with [TS]

00:01:30   what we're talking about sure they are [TS]

00:01:31   they real rock outline it's a mighty [TS]

00:01:33   good line [TS]

00:01:34   I'm sure every 25 year-old a person [TS]

00:01:37   working in the tech economy is also [TS]

00:01:39   familiar with Leadbelly all of his [TS]

00:01:41   record work sir I'm aware that somebody [TS]

00:01:44   good road upper technically yeah so you [TS]

00:01:48   know any big part of a con i think is [TS]

00:01:50   never admitting it was a con and it [TS]

00:01:52   comes up with operatives there's a lot [TS]

00:01:54   of Intel that stays sealed for years [TS]

00:01:56   even after it seems like you could tell [TS]

00:01:58   people about it [TS]

00:01:59   that's right because you don't want them [TS]

00:02:00   to you never want them to know that they [TS]

00:02:02   were fooled because the real technology [TS]

00:02:04   is that you fooled them that food [TS]

00:02:06   chicken [TS]

00:02:07   ok this shitty operative well that's [TS]

00:02:10   exactly right i mean you know he could [TS]

00:02:12   you can reveal that you had a pen camera [TS]

00:02:15   you can reveal that yet an umbrella a [TS]

00:02:18   poison-tipped umbrella but never [TS]

00:02:20   revealed that it was an operation [TS]

00:02:22   well yeah and also even something it's a [TS]

00:02:26   little bit like the stagecraft of [TS]

00:02:28   illusion and the kind of talking now [TS]

00:02:31   you're singing my song and the stage [TS]

00:02:34   graduate pollution and protecting the [TS]

00:02:36   effect because you know [TS]

00:02:38   you want people to know well you know [TS]

00:02:40   that you may not even want them to know [TS]

00:02:42   they got full you don't want to know how [TS]

00:02:44   they got fooled you don't want them to [TS]

00:02:46   know when they got full right that's [TS]

00:02:48   what this is all really critical and [TS]

00:02:50   then also I mean obviously a huge part [TS]

00:02:52   for the operatives must be i don't know [TS]

00:02:53   i'm not an operative but it seems like a [TS]

00:02:54   huge party might also be then we don't [TS]

00:02:56   want you to be able to connect the dots [TS]

00:02:58   on time and people in places you sound [TS]

00:03:02   like my listeners know what we're [TS]

00:03:03   talking about John sure they do you know [TS]

00:03:06   I often wonder it was a long time ago [TS]

00:03:09   Merlin when when we first started [TS]

00:03:12   lowering the third the third wall let [TS]

00:03:16   alone the fourth wall [TS]

00:03:17   remember when we first did that one on [TS]

00:03:20   the Left we just dropped that one of the [TS]

00:03:22   left when we began this program we [TS]

00:03:24   almost never addressed our audience or [TS]

00:03:27   even acknowledged on I I still down [TS]

00:03:28   still even acknowledge that there was an [TS]

00:03:31   audience and then as time went on I [TS]

00:03:33   remember the first time I address the [TS]

00:03:34   audience I got a lot of angry letters / [TS]

00:03:36   don't let us know that you know that [TS]

00:03:38   we're here isn't this isn't a fury road [TS]

00:03:40   don't miss them but but now I think our [TS]

00:03:43   audience has become somewhat self-aware [TS]

00:03:45   but you're just saying this for your [TS]

00:03:46   other show John haha this is a I [TS]

00:03:49   actually IIM looking forward to the next [TS]

00:03:51   episode of your other program because I [TS]

00:03:52   want to hear what all you got in the [TS]

00:03:53   mail but we have a lot to talk about [TS]

00:03:55   well i'm sitting here i mean i'll just [TS]

00:03:57   give you a little teaser I've got 25 [TS]

00:04:01   boxes and then that is not counting the [TS]

00:04:04   envelopes and I just don't know where to [TS]

00:04:07   begin but the crazy thing is that I got [TS]

00:04:09   here and there were there were three UPS [TS]

00:04:12   stickers on the door they're like we [TS]

00:04:14   tried to deliver this we try to deliver [TS]

00:04:15   it [TS]

00:04:16   sorry we've got to send it back and I [TS]

00:04:19   was like well 25 other boxes managed to [TS]

00:04:22   get here in the one box that came by UPS [TS]

00:04:24   that just can't be guys like oh I'm not [TS]

00:04:26   going to leave this box will hear about [TS]

00:04:28   one of those broke my heart [TS]

00:04:30   the one that went back to fargo yeah [TS]

00:04:32   well yeah so they sent it back to fargo [TS]

00:04:34   i called the numbers are the TV show are [TS]

00:04:36   part of the city [TS]

00:04:37   that's the woman wasn't clear because [TS]

00:04:40   she was in bangalore and so she said I [TS]

00:04:44   don't know it's probably seen season 1 [TS]

00:04:46   she said the [TS]

00:04:48   the OIC to fargo the TV show right I i'm [TS]

00:04:52   only here watching fargo the TV show me [TS]

00:04:54   where far the movie [TS]

00:04:56   oh dear seems like a complete universe [TS]

00:04:57   and I didn't want to have to your job [TS]

00:04:59   oh my goodness alright huh and I really [TS]

00:05:02   don't recommend that i sent a comic book [TS]

00:05:04   once that I ask you to read but apart [TS]

00:05:06   from that I don't make you watch things [TS]

00:05:07   but the second season of Fargo is a [TS]

00:05:09   treat [TS]

00:05:09   you sent me a couple of comic books i [TS]

00:05:11   said if you come hot guy I yeah uh so [TS]

00:05:17   you're saying you look at watchman right [TS]

00:05:19   you're familiar with watchman oh yeah I [TS]

00:05:20   liked watchman very much of the blue [TS]

00:05:22   penis man is like it's me a bag face it [TS]

00:05:25   a peg leg face and angrier AP guy ray [TS]

00:05:28   and the great ready comic you got one [TS]

00:05:31   glove lady one glove lady very important [TS]

00:05:34   key role [TS]

00:05:34   yep uh yeah it was let's see and you [TS]

00:05:37   sent me the the guide to the Marvel [TS]

00:05:39   Universe did I mmm that was probably me [TS]

00:05:43   that's something i do yeah yeah and i [TS]

00:05:45   blow i pored over that [TS]

00:05:47   oh did Hank Pym really hit last or was [TS]

00:05:51   that just a continuity error [TS]

00:05:53   I'm tonight with the Fargo TV show I [TS]

00:05:56   fear it i fear that mean that you know I [TS]

00:05:58   don't need more more Fargo have a lot of [TS]

00:06:01   Fargo already in my life [TS]

00:06:02   well I don't go on about this because [TS]

00:06:04   its people are already going it's kinda [TS]

00:06:05   like the new wire where you know [TS]

00:06:07   everybody's just oh yeah i mean all the [TS]

00:06:09   white guys are falling all over the show [TS]

00:06:10   because it is its exquisite I mean the [TS]

00:06:13   storytelling is great the acting is [TS]

00:06:14   great but just purely for the just the [TS]

00:06:17   beauty the gorgeousness of the [TS]

00:06:18   cinematography and no go ask your policy [TS]

00:06:21   Newman the music's great they got the [TS]

00:06:22   whoever is picking the music for that [TS]

00:06:23   shows awesome AC newman have stopped [TS]

00:06:25   flirting with me on the internet but I [TS]

00:06:26   know me too and I've reached out what is [TS]

00:06:29   ok I don't know he's somewhere up there [TS]

00:06:31   in upstate New York he's forgotten his [TS]

00:06:33   he doesn't care about us anymore he's [TS]

00:06:35   like raisin raccoons or something [TS]

00:06:37   yeah probably if your breaks my heart [TS]

00:06:38   that I thought I thought I was getting [TS]

00:06:39   close yeah you thought you were one of [TS]

00:06:41   the one of the in crowd [TS]

00:06:42   yeah that's the man with the in crowd [TS]

00:06:46   but as so yeah so anyway they said this [TS]

00:06:50   package back to fargo all the shops of [TS]

00:06:52   course in Fargo are closed from October [TS]

00:06:56   thirty-first until March 15 so all I can [TS]

00:07:00   do is go to the internet and [TS]

00:07:02   I if you live in Fargo and sent me a [TS]

00:07:03   package send it again man i know it's [TS]

00:07:06   really sad i have times that I think I [TS]

00:07:09   don't know this is this is that this is [TS]

00:07:11   a classic white wine but the problem of [TS]

00:07:13   like delivery services is a little [TS]

00:07:15   vexing to me like most of the time I [TS]

00:07:16   don't particularly care it's mainly just [TS]

00:07:18   a dash expectation but sometimes it gets [TS]

00:07:21   downright frustrating and the classic [TS]

00:07:22   and when you said you had three of those [TS]

00:07:24   notices i sometimes feel like maybe the [TS]

00:07:26   post office in particular since people [TS]

00:07:28   around with a big pad of those things [TS]

00:07:31   and they don't actually have the package [TS]

00:07:33   they just wait for a moment when you go [TS]

00:07:34   to take a dump and they slap it on the [TS]

00:07:36   door and run away because I is having me [TS]

00:07:39   numerous times i know many people have [TS]

00:07:40   had the experience of like pretty much [TS]

00:07:42   waiting sitting by the door because you [TS]

00:07:44   know what thing is going to be delivered [TS]

00:07:46   when you look away for a second look [TS]

00:07:47   outside there's notice that they tried [TS]

00:07:48   me [TS]

00:07:49   yeah it's like the it's like when some [TS]

00:07:51   house certain people you're waiting for [TS]

00:07:54   a phone call and then it goes directly [TS]

00:07:55   to voicemail and you can you you're like [TS]

00:07:57   wait a minute i was sitting right here [TS]

00:07:59   was waiting for the call [TS]

00:08:00   how did you how did you do that it [TS]

00:08:02   seemed like there were certain people [TS]

00:08:04   that had that had special phone skills [TS]

00:08:07   that could I don't know somehow just [TS]

00:08:09   send it straight to voicemail when they [TS]

00:08:10   didn't want to talk interesting i have a [TS]

00:08:12   weird similar complimentary availability [TS]

00:08:14   heuristic which is I almost never call [TS]

00:08:17   anyone [TS]

00:08:18   you're about the only person who calls [TS]

00:08:19   me the location call me i don't know why [TS]

00:08:22   i know somebody I and what happens when [TS]

00:08:24   I feel a little bit freaky little bit [TS]

00:08:25   and always great isn't it [TS]

00:08:27   yeah that's nice that you can do that to [TS]

00:08:28   me but I I don't get or make phone calls [TS]

00:08:33   until I'm on a phone call and that's [TS]

00:08:34   almost invariably when i get a phone [TS]

00:08:36   call is what I'm already on a call with [TS]

00:08:37   somebody with you interesting you know I [TS]

00:08:40   don't understand how it works are [TS]

00:08:41   watching you [TS]

00:08:42   I have one couple weeks ago those really [TS]

00:08:44   weird no big but like I our my internet [TS]

00:08:45   ramen from amazon it's just really good [TS]

00:08:48   at the controls about this ramen is what [TS]

00:08:49   you get me one [TS]

00:08:50   did I all I did when you did you try it [TS]

00:08:52   well I haven't tried it yet and and it's [TS]

00:08:54   it's now now no parties in California [TS]

00:08:56   gonna be hard to try will cover that we [TS]

00:08:59   gotta get our that but i had to reup had [TS]

00:09:01   to do a reup I wanted to six new five [TS]

00:09:03   packs of Internet ramen because I eat [TS]

00:09:05   like one today [TS]

00:09:06   yeah and he's gonna try that boy [TS]

00:09:09   it's good i said it looks good and i SAT [TS]

00:09:12   there and I watched i watched on the [TS]

00:09:14   amazon page and later on when they made [TS]

00:09:16   the that pretentious handoff to usps and [TS]

00:09:19   you know your heart really drops when [TS]

00:09:20   you see that is going to live among the [TS]

00:09:21   post office [TS]

00:09:22   mhm i think you know my history with the [TS]

00:09:24   post office i do i just don't get mail I [TS]

00:09:26   get a safeway flyer and the mail from [TS]

00:09:28   people two doors down [TS]

00:09:29   that's what I get haha we occasionally [TS]

00:09:31   have this community events outside where [TS]

00:09:33   we meet around seven o'clock in exchange [TS]

00:09:34   mail with each other than I was [TS]

00:09:35   delivered yeah so I ordered my internet [TS]

00:09:39   ramen and I'm just watching it you know [TS]

00:09:40   I got a little app here that keeps track [TS]

00:09:42   of delivery stuff says when it's coming [TS]

00:09:44   so i can be there and or whatever just [TS]

00:09:46   now and i watched it and watch it move [TS]

00:09:49   very slowly very slowly from California [TS]

00:09:52   very slowly it had to go from just you [TS]

00:09:55   know 24 have to go from chino california [TS]

00:09:57   you know too i think somewhere on the [TS]

00:10:01   East Coast huh [TS]

00:10:02   because it's the post office and then [TS]

00:10:03   it's at some more for awhile it i know [TS]

00:10:06   did whatever packages do it okay it's [TS]

00:10:08   coming it's on its way here coming back [TS]

00:10:10   to California now and i watched it and [TS]

00:10:12   it made the San Francisco like okay this [TS]

00:10:15   is great project in the next five days [TS]

00:10:16   and so it SAT there in San Francisco [TS]

00:10:19   which is not unusual at all because I [TS]

00:10:21   think sometimes they just get to it when [TS]

00:10:22   they can of course they're busy people [TS]

00:10:24   busy they gotta post office to run and [TS]

00:10:27   then I saw that it was out for delivery [TS]

00:10:29   and then was still out for delivery and [TS]

00:10:31   then was out for delivery and then i saw [TS]

00:10:33   i got a notification that it had reached [TS]

00:10:34   its final destination and been delivered [TS]

00:10:37   in chino california [TS]

00:10:40   yeah so I contacted them and I said yeah [TS]

00:10:42   I think my internet ramen and they said [TS]

00:10:45   well said your address was undeliverable [TS]

00:10:47   and I said that's strange because i had [TS]

00:10:50   five other things delivered from amazon [TS]

00:10:51   today because Christmas right [TS]

00:10:54   yeah so anyway they had me verify my [TS]

00:10:56   address that absolutely works and they [TS]

00:10:58   were sent i got it yesterday / saturday [TS]

00:11:01   Saturday you [TS]

00:11:02   yeah but not in time for not ever Smith [TS]

00:11:05   had nothing under the tree [TS]

00:11:07   I don't print out a picture of ramen and [TS]

00:11:09   put it into the tree oh that's too bad [TS]

00:11:12   that's does that no-good christmas i had [TS]

00:11:14   to it is this year i had to it as here's [TS]

00:11:16   a picture of your president [TS]

00:11:17   well thats like you know my dad's famous [TS]

00:11:20   Christmas present was a was a [TS]

00:11:22   paper grocery sack stapled closed [TS]

00:11:26   well what did everything it's like [TS]

00:11:27   folded over with a staple I don't want [TS]

00:11:30   any when you saw that into the tree you [TS]

00:11:32   knew like oh boy here comes and then [TS]

00:11:35   you'd open it and there'd be a piece of [TS]

00:11:37   paper the best [TS]

00:11:39   merry Christmas to read the piece of [TS]

00:11:42   paper and it's a good for guitar lessons [TS]

00:11:44   which he would you would never force [TS]

00:11:48   that lasted over here that's the other [TS]

00:11:50   side of that kind of president is the [TS]

00:11:53   first of all there's like so many things [TS]

00:11:54   wrong with that the wrapping perfect [TS]

00:11:55   that's right up my alley then there's [TS]

00:11:57   the there's the whole like uh this is a [TS]

00:12:00   physical good or evil it's not [TS]

00:12:03   especially it's not a physical good it's [TS]

00:12:04   like good for one hug kind of thing I [TS]

00:12:07   know you're never going to deliver that [TS]

00:12:08   alright Bobby's dishes they still have a [TS]

00:12:11   booklet of those from 1975 good for one [TS]

00:12:15   yeah good for one extra chore and I and [TS]

00:12:18   somebody gave them to me as a gift like [TS]

00:12:21   that's that's when it got a good gift [TS]

00:12:24   there's a bunch of opportunities for me [TS]

00:12:26   to do extra chores it's like it's like [TS]

00:12:27   when you look at the ads from movies in [TS]

00:12:29   the paper and and they almost all say no [TS]

00:12:32   passes right [TS]

00:12:33   really you're not gonna be able to use [TS]

00:12:35   when you're little giveaway stocking [TS]

00:12:37   stuffers to go to Star Wars it's gonna [TS]

00:12:38   have to be you know so it's probably [TS]

00:12:40   that is probably you know you can't [TS]

00:12:42   you're ineligible to catching your hug [TS]

00:12:44   after 1977 i ordered a couple of things [TS]

00:12:46   from ebay if you can imagine that were [TS]

00:12:49   small small things and these dead [TS]

00:12:53   soldier pins their little dead soldier [TS]

00:12:55   pins yeah and both of them they were the [TS]

00:12:58   first time I've seen this in a long time [TS]

00:13:00   both things said no tracking available [TS]

00:13:06   and I was like call you know i kinda [TS]

00:13:09   like I like kind of like chasing after [TS]

00:13:11   the packages with the tracking [TS]

00:13:12   information it's like a little own [TS]

00:13:14   little personal travel show it to you [TS]

00:13:16   get to watch it move across this great [TS]

00:13:17   land of ours [TS]

00:13:18   yeah no tracking available and I was [TS]

00:13:20   like um alright and one of them said you [TS]

00:13:23   know to be delivered in three days and [TS]

00:13:25   one of them said to be delivered in a [TS]

00:13:27   month and I I couldn't I couldn't [TS]

00:13:29   explain why [TS]

00:13:30   and then I did the thing that I that is [TS]

00:13:34   the source of so many of these problems [TS]

00:13:36   what's the source of the 25 boxes [TS]

00:13:38   problem it's the source of a lot of [TS]

00:13:40   these problems which is I did all these [TS]

00:13:41   things then immediately left town for [TS]

00:13:43   three weeks or a month and so when I got [TS]

00:13:46   back I was looking forward to getting [TS]

00:13:48   these two small packages [TS]

00:13:49   neither of them came no sign of them [TS]

00:13:52   anywhere and so I contacted both of the [TS]

00:13:55   seller's through ebay and they but one [TS]

00:13:57   of them wrote back immediately was like [TS]

00:13:58   my packages always arrived they never [TS]

00:14:00   fail to arrive [TS]

00:14:01   mhm it's a guy he's a guy that's selling [TS]

00:14:05   dead soldier pins so he can't be wrong [TS]

00:14:07   right [TS]

00:14:09   the other person actually did a fair [TS]

00:14:11   amount of due diligence but said i don't [TS]

00:14:14   i don't pay extra for tracking it's too [TS]

00:14:16   expensive [TS]

00:14:17   hmm i was like well neither thing [TS]

00:14:21   arrived and how is how is that costs [TS]

00:14:23   extra [TS]

00:14:24   i'm not sure i'll just put stamps on it [TS]

00:14:26   and throw them in the mailbox [TS]

00:14:28   I don't know but in any case the the two [TS]

00:14:31   things that had no tracking are the two [TS]

00:14:33   things that have not arrived [TS]

00:14:35   yeah and it's just like well so much for [TS]

00:14:38   that so much for them apples [TS]

00:14:40   I feel like I suggest not interesting by [TS]

00:14:43   such a crazy person because i'll say to [TS]

00:14:44   people especially if it involves money [TS]

00:14:45   in a check for people who still send [TS]

00:14:47   checks and I just have to say like [TS]

00:14:48   please send checks [TS]

00:14:50   hmm and what one [TS]

00:14:56   what are you I in this economy [TS]

00:14:59   ah but you know and i'll just say to [TS]

00:15:02   people i'll just i'll beg them because [TS]

00:15:04   like you know that can mean a lot of [TS]

00:15:06   money to me and like it just probably [TS]

00:15:09   won't get here and i know you think i'm [TS]

00:15:10   crazy when I say that but I'll SiC could [TS]

00:15:12   you send it by I mean literally anyway [TS]

00:15:15   except the post office and please use a [TS]

00:15:17   tracking number [TS]

00:15:18   like I know that's a pain and I'm so [TS]

00:15:19   sorry but you're still using checks you [TS]

00:15:21   must be used to inconvenience in life [TS]

00:15:22   like could you justjust you know just [TS]

00:15:26   you know cut me a break [TS]

00:15:27   yeah he'll probably humor me you know [TS]

00:15:29   but on ya [TS]

00:15:32   I don't know soldier pins god we have [TS]

00:15:36   recorded in awhile know what have we not [TS]

00:15:38   done a show sense a mi was in San [TS]

00:15:42   Francisco [TS]

00:15:43   nope can that be true i think it's like [TS]

00:15:45   three weeks that like that that's just [TS]

00:15:48   incredible you know you a little bit of [TS]

00:15:49   a by 4 for the holidays but we tried we [TS]

00:15:52   tried to record last week that was said [TS]

00:15:55   yeah have you shared your haven't really [TS]

00:15:58   shared your saga have you do you want to [TS]

00:15:59   know I haven't shared the saga you know [TS]

00:16:01   it's a little i can give a brief [TS]

00:16:03   thumbnail you left me on a cliffhanger [TS]

00:16:05   what we're after i left san francisco [TS]

00:16:08   you mean well the cliffhanger that I [TS]

00:16:09   heard over your skype line from you [TS]

00:16:11   sitting in a red truck last week and was [TS]

00:16:13   a was that it was still in yeah so [TS]

00:16:17   you're about to find out so what you [TS]

00:16:18   give people the whole idea that our [TS]

00:16:19   listeners know what we're talking about [TS]

00:16:21   here Justin yeah I do because multiple [TS]

00:16:24   times in the last week i have walked [TS]

00:16:28   into a cafe or along the road and [TS]

00:16:32   someone has walked up to me and said [TS]

00:16:35   how's the RV [TS]

00:16:37   no kidding and I'm like oh well it's [TS]

00:16:41   kind of a long story and they just have [TS]

00:16:43   another talk about that marshmallow [TS]

00:16:44   fluff ya there [TS]

00:16:45   yes they're just they're just like you [TS]

00:16:48   know they're just dropping in on the [TS]

00:16:50   sidewalk just sort of pop in and say [TS]

00:16:52   like hi I was there be and then they [TS]

00:16:54   want to they want me to go like great [TS]

00:16:56   and then and then they're gone and I [TS]

00:16:58   grabbed him by the shoulder and start to [TS]

00:17:00   weep and they're like oh I just what I [TS]

00:17:03   just wanted to say hi but the long and [TS]

00:17:07   the short of it i think where we where [TS]

00:17:08   we left it was you had been here and [TS]

00:17:11   visited and we have what many listeners [TS]

00:17:13   have not told us were probably situation [TS]

00:17:15   peppers mean that's one tasted like [TS]

00:17:16   batteries [TS]

00:17:17   thank you to literally everyone for for [TS]

00:17:20   telling us about thank you everyone [TS]

00:17:21   I heading back to that place today I [TS]

00:17:24   think I want to try it again whenever [TS]

00:17:25   you just you just directly addressed our [TS]

00:17:27   audience [TS]

00:17:28   no I don't know that was the second wall [TS]

00:17:31   I was addressing the second wisely [TS]

00:17:32   around one over here on the right track [TS]

00:17:34   but we left it where you have been here [TS]

00:17:35   and you're going to leave town to go out [TS]

00:17:37   onto the piece that folks didn't know [TS]

00:17:39   that I knew off air was that you had [TS]

00:17:40   serendipitously found like an [TS]

00:17:43   unbelievable deus ex machina solution [TS]

00:17:45   for [TS]

00:17:45   Garvey because you found a blacklister [TS]

00:17:48   in the east bay [TS]

00:17:49   that's right who was going to not only a [TS]

00:17:51   lodge your RV while you're on the east [TS]

00:17:54   coast but he was actually going to work [TS]

00:17:56   on it and fix it up a little [TS]

00:17:58   that's right mm that's right and so I [TS]

00:18:01   took the RV to him and happily left it [TS]

00:18:04   there in a in like a holding yard where [TS]

00:18:08   there were literally 40 other GMC arbys [TS]

00:18:13   and you know they're they're not the [TS]

00:18:14   largest RV but when you put 40 of them [TS]

00:18:16   together it's very impressive and so I [TS]

00:18:20   would I believe this man and his team of [TS]

00:18:25   of helper monkeys to be the you know [TS]

00:18:30   they must be the the worldwide authority [TS]

00:18:32   on these things or at least the Regional [TS]

00:18:34   Authority and so I left it there and i [TS]

00:18:38   went back east to do my rock shows with [TS]

00:18:43   with the aim and liz phair and Ted Leo [TS]

00:18:48   jonathan coulton and that was very fun [TS]

00:18:52   and I had a good old Christmastime back [TS]

00:18:55   east and then the plan was here was [TS]

00:18:57   here's where the the wrinkle got wrinkly [TS]

00:18:59   is what happens when your plan you got [TS]

00:19:00   about a big plan and that was that i was [TS]

00:19:02   going to fly to San Francisco my mom and [TS]

00:19:06   daughter were going to fly to san [TS]

00:19:08   francisco from Seattle and my daughter's [TS]

00:19:13   baby mama who was in a conference in [TS]

00:19:15   washington DC was also going to fly to [TS]

00:19:19   seattle all of our flights arriving [TS]

00:19:21   within an hour or two of one another [TS]

00:19:25   we're going to meet in the san francisco [TS]

00:19:27   airport take a car to the east bay get [TS]

00:19:30   in the RV and drive home leaving friday [TS]

00:19:34   night arriving on sunday in time for a [TS]

00:19:40   good friends engagement party and then a [TS]

00:19:43   show that I had booked for sunday night [TS]

00:19:45   a show where I hosted a sing-along party [TS]

00:19:50   at Seattle's brand new cloud room [TS]

00:19:56   rich people place so we all get over [TS]

00:19:59   there we get in the RV that put the RV [TS]

00:20:02   repair dudes are having their christmas [TS]

00:20:04   party so they're they're late but [TS]

00:20:06   they're also all standing around a bunch [TS]

00:20:09   of GMC rvs all drunk on punch and it was [TS]

00:20:13   7pm and it was raining and I was like [TS]

00:20:16   you know thanks for the you know thanks [TS]

00:20:19   for the work great to see you guys have [TS]

00:20:23   a great time you know the owner was [TS]

00:20:24   telling me about his time in Vietnam and [TS]

00:20:26   my people were out in the RV already [TS]

00:20:29   going like babe come on let's go and I [TS]

00:20:31   get in the RV and off we go [TS]

00:20:34   and right away I know that there's [TS]

00:20:36   something wrong with the RV it's just [TS]

00:20:38   not running right it doesn't have the [TS]

00:20:40   power that it used to have and one of [TS]

00:20:43   the things i asked them to address was [TS]

00:20:45   the path was the fuel system so for them [TS]

00:20:49   to have monkeyed with the fuel-injection [TS]

00:20:51   and now it's not producing very much [TS]

00:20:55   power very concerning to me so I get on [TS]

00:20:58   the phone with him hes that is Christmas [TS]

00:21:00   party drunk talking about Vietnam [TS]

00:21:03   chicken Billy beer and I was like hey [TS]

00:21:05   you know I'm driving here and the rains [TS]

00:21:08   coming down and there's something not [TS]

00:21:10   right with the thing and he's like oh [TS]

00:21:12   I'll just you know put premium gas in it [TS]

00:21:15   and you know it's just got to stretch [TS]

00:21:17   its legs [TS]

00:21:18   oh so I was like all right let's stretch [TS]

00:21:20   its legs and I got out there got out [TS]

00:21:24   there to about nut tree and I calling [TS]

00:21:28   back from nut tree and I'm like nope [TS]

00:21:29   it's not that it's starting to backfire [TS]

00:21:33   there's a problem here it's the mixtures [TS]

00:21:35   to lean and he says oh well okay here's [TS]

00:21:39   what you do you get under there and you [TS]

00:21:41   turn the Ballon wrench one full turn to [TS]

00:21:45   the right on the fuel injector and I was [TS]

00:21:49   like what [TS]

00:21:50   alright so I pull over into a walmart i [TS]

00:21:53   send everybody inside i take the air [TS]

00:21:54   cleaner off i turn thing all the way [TS]

00:21:57   over one turn that won't start at all [TS]

00:22:01   I calling back at the Christmas parties [TS]

00:22:04   skidding drunker talking about Vietnam [TS]

00:22:07   more [TS]

00:22:08   I said this isn't working he said oh I'm [TS]

00:22:12   not really familiar with those fuel [TS]

00:22:13   injectors maybe you should turn it [TS]

00:22:15   clockwise one turn [TS]

00:22:18   I was like all right it's this is [TS]

00:22:21   instilling a tremendous confidence in me [TS]

00:22:23   in you [TS]

00:22:26   so I turned its back wanted I mean are [TS]

00:22:29   you getting the feeling you get the [TS]

00:22:31   feeling that he's already he's kind of a [TS]

00:22:33   little bit wild out like his work is [TS]

00:22:35   done well the problem with the black [TS]

00:22:38   list is your work is never done [TS]

00:22:42   alright this is a pay-it-forward economy [TS]

00:22:45   forward and so everybody on the [TS]

00:22:47   blacklist knows everybody on the [TS]

00:22:48   blacklist and things this guy cums not [TS]

00:22:50   with an unimpeachable reputation but [TS]

00:22:52   certainly with a legendary reputation [TS]

00:22:54   and so you know uh from what I [TS]

00:23:01   understand about this click this [TS]

00:23:03   community there's no you know no one [TS]

00:23:07   ever goes away the only people that ever [TS]

00:23:09   go away are people that that abandoned [TS]

00:23:14   RV entirely but if people that keep [TS]

00:23:17   their RVs you see them over and over and [TS]

00:23:19   over again and so no I think he wants to [TS]

00:23:22   keep me as a longtime customer but he's [TS]

00:23:26   also 75 years old and it's the night of [TS]

00:23:29   his christmas party and should i maybe [TS]

00:23:33   have described this before but in my [TS]

00:23:37   experience there are two kinds of people [TS]

00:23:38   who are incapable of admitting that they [TS]

00:23:43   did anything wrong and one dick cheney [TS]

00:23:47   well and dick cheney is sort of it is is [TS]

00:23:50   a is is kind of one of these archetypes [TS]

00:23:52   studio engineers and producers people [TS]

00:23:56   who are making record albums can never [TS]

00:23:59   say oh shit I fucked that up [TS]

00:24:02   who if if something goes wrong if they [TS]

00:24:06   if they push the wrong button if they if [TS]

00:24:08   they if they got a bad tone and we [TS]

00:24:12   didn't realize it until later [TS]

00:24:14   there's always a reason that it's that [TS]

00:24:17   it was not their fault that they didn't [TS]

00:24:19   mean they don't even [TS]

00:24:20   they won't even get into a he said she [TS]

00:24:22   said you did you won't you know they'll [TS]

00:24:25   just look right at you and say like [TS]

00:24:26   that's what you wanted or that's how [TS]

00:24:29   it's supposed to sound or you know like [TS]

00:24:30   I just I've never met and I've never met [TS]

00:24:33   a studio a production person that would [TS]

00:24:37   say like oh you know what I fucked up [TS]

00:24:38   and I'm sorry because the problem is [TS]

00:24:41   that if they say that right even about [TS]

00:24:43   your tip has some tambourine part like [TS]

00:24:46   then the artist is gonna for the rest of [TS]

00:24:49   their lives be like well that record got [TS]

00:24:51   all fucked up by that guy you know like [TS]

00:24:53   it's so it's so frost making record [TS]

00:24:58   albums that that class of people just [TS]

00:25:00   we'll just full-on stare you down rather [TS]

00:25:04   than say that they have screwed up okay [TS]

00:25:06   no Nate number-one engineers engineers [TS]

00:25:08   and the second group is auto mechanics [TS]

00:25:10   if you bring a car in and you haven't [TS]

00:25:13   worked on and you drive 15 feet out of [TS]

00:25:15   the mechanics shop and the motor blows [TS]

00:25:18   up the mechanic is going to say well i [TS]

00:25:24   don't think that the I think the reason [TS]

00:25:26   that the motor blew up has nothing to do [TS]

00:25:27   with the work that i did not it because [TS]

00:25:29   I didn't ever touch [TS]

00:25:31   I didn't touch that part right I didn't [TS]

00:25:33   touch the it i was down in there [TS]

00:25:36   changing all these other things but I [TS]

00:25:38   never touched that one thing that ended [TS]

00:25:40   up being the thing that failed and so [TS]

00:25:43   you take your car to these me you know [TS]

00:25:46   to it to an auto mechanic over and over [TS]

00:25:48   and over and they're they're trying to [TS]

00:25:50   figure out the turn track down problems [TS]

00:25:52   are trying to trace things but then you [TS]

00:25:55   drive away and the car runs worse and [TS]

00:25:58   they're like well I think that problem [TS]

00:26:00   was always there you know I the the work [TS]

00:26:03   that i did is is fine right and and what [TS]

00:26:06   what it did was just uncover this other [TS]

00:26:08   problem it might be a little bit of like [TS]

00:26:10   uh in a you know nowadays the way [TS]

00:26:13   surgery works and this has not so much [TS]

00:26:16   to do with the blame part but you know [TS]

00:26:17   it used to be like I remember my grandpa [TS]

00:26:19   got surgery open-heart surgery in the [TS]

00:26:21   seventies [TS]

00:26:22   I mean it's obviously too even today [TS]

00:26:23   it's a huge deal to get surgery back [TS]

00:26:25   then the heart surgery was you know what [TS]

00:26:28   they did your heart was dangerous and [TS]

00:26:30   scary but was what they had to do to get [TS]

00:26:31   to the heart that cause a lot of [TS]

00:26:33   problems [TS]

00:26:34   there's you know there's always just cut [TS]

00:26:36   through bones and stuff like get to the [TS]

00:26:37   heart I guess I mean like it'sit's [TS]

00:26:38   pretty was pretty serious stuff but the [TS]

00:26:40   hard coming hard bone heart you got the [TS]

00:26:42   heart bone you got the auxiliary heart [TS]

00:26:44   bone and but but what I guess what I'm [TS]

00:26:46   getting at is in this case with [TS]

00:26:47   something that old in wherever the [TS]

00:26:50   condition just moving all those parts [TS]

00:26:52   around it's probably going to end up [TS]

00:26:54   causing problems that you didn't have [TS]

00:26:56   before as you fix the problem that [TS]

00:26:58   you're there to nominally fix that must [TS]

00:27:00   be like one reality of it is a massive [TS]

00:27:02   reality but but what you you know as a [TS]

00:27:04   customer what you want is the mechanic [TS]

00:27:07   to do the work then get in the car drive [TS]

00:27:11   around and and have gotten in the car [TS]

00:27:15   before so you bring the car in the first [TS]

00:27:17   thing the mechanic you want them to do [TS]

00:27:19   is get in it and drive it around and and [TS]

00:27:22   feel the problem for themselves and then [TS]

00:27:26   bring it in [TS]

00:27:27   trace it down fix it get in the car [TS]

00:27:30   drive around again like you know shake [TS]

00:27:33   it out a little bit and if it isn't a [TS]

00:27:35   hundred percent right bring it back and [TS]

00:27:38   monkey with it again well the problem [TS]

00:27:39   with that is that shop time is a hundred [TS]

00:27:42   and twenty dollars an hour for a lot of [TS]

00:27:43   these places and you know they want to [TS]

00:27:47   keep your bill down and so they don't do [TS]

00:27:51   any of that and they you know they they [TS]

00:27:54   fix it the thing they move it to the [TS]

00:27:57   back of a lot and that's what happened [TS]

00:27:59   in this case like they did some work on [TS]

00:28:01   it and they button it up and if they [TS]

00:28:05   took it for a test drive it was just [TS]

00:28:07   like that they didn't know the rig well [TS]

00:28:10   enough to know but they should they [TS]

00:28:12   should anyway suffice to say i'm in the [TS]

00:28:14   parking lot of this walmart i crank this [TS]

00:28:16   thing this this little bolt now two [TS]

00:28:23   revolutions to the left increasing the [TS]

00:28:27   pressure in the fuel injector which is a [TS]

00:28:31   thing which is a which is a process that [TS]

00:28:34   should involve like micro adjustment [TS]

00:28:37   right i mean this is like part of us of [TS]

00:28:39   fuel injection system where the person [TS]

00:28:41   that's doing this work with this allen [TS]

00:28:43   bolt should be moving it [TS]

00:28:46   very small increments testing it's [TS]

00:28:49   moving it again take it i can imagine i [TS]

00:28:51   don't like adjusting my kids retainer [TS]

00:28:53   like that I feel like I think I'm gonna [TS]

00:28:55   give her some kind of unnecessary [TS]

00:28:56   widemouth condition if I get it even [TS]

00:28:58   just slightly wrong in that case you're [TS]

00:29:00   talking about some very minut mixtures [TS]

00:29:02   right and so my family is all [TS]

00:29:05   entertaining themselves in a Walmart in [TS]

00:29:07   the middle of the night in nut tree [TS]

00:29:08   California were like that tree [TS]

00:29:11   yeah that's great and we always stop at [TS]

00:29:13   metreon look at is that you right now [TS]

00:29:14   they got a carousel you gotta stop stop [TS]

00:29:17   in that tree [TS]

00:29:17   you know when I was a kid there was a [TS]

00:29:19   there was a small choo-choo train in not [TS]

00:29:23   trace still in there [TS]

00:29:25   no really yes my kid rides it every time [TS]

00:29:27   oh my god I loved that so funny have a [TS]

00:29:29   variety of they have this girl kinda [TS]

00:29:32   famous family style restaurant there and [TS]

00:29:34   it's a it's a lot of fun i have not been [TS]

00:29:36   backed up in victory since the seventies [TS]

00:29:39   add do you remember a restaurant that [TS]

00:29:42   was kind of out in that area out in that [TS]

00:29:44   region called Petticoat Junction I don't [TS]

00:29:46   hide so would have gone there [TS]

00:29:48   well Petticoat Junction was a restaurant [TS]

00:29:49   somewhere in that region between chico [TS]

00:29:52   and and central valley somewhere [TS]

00:29:55   Sacramento sacramento area and it was [TS]

00:29:58   Petticoat Junction all the waitresses [TS]

00:30:00   were in their fifties and sixties and [TS]

00:30:03   their waitress uniforms were that look [TS]

00:30:07   like showed ruffled panties under there [TS]

00:30:12   under their skirts so it was some like [TS]

00:30:18   it was some truckers version of sexy pre [TS]

00:30:24   hooter readers yeah sexiness the darker [TS]

00:30:27   one Bobby jail was that her name Bobby [TS]

00:30:29   Joe man I loved her in any case [TS]

00:30:34   Petticoat Junction I've tried and tried [TS]

00:30:35   and tried to find it [TS]

00:30:36   I i used to stop there every time I was [TS]

00:30:38   going up that highway but it wasn't like [TS]

00:30:40   right off of i-5 it was on some it was [TS]

00:30:43   on some spur road it was always full of [TS]

00:30:45   truckers and you know the witches had [TS]

00:30:48   been doing this a long time they they [TS]

00:30:51   recognize that part of the show was that [TS]

00:30:53   was the ruffles panty ruffles sure but [TS]

00:30:56   petticoat junction is the place where i [TS]

00:30:57   saw the kid with a with a [TS]

00:31:00   giant-size coke i'm sure i've told you [TS]

00:31:02   the story turns I spoke and he was just [TS]

00:31:05   he was just ripping sugar packets open [TS]

00:31:08   and pouring sugar packets into the cook [TS]

00:31:10   and after he had and he was sitting at a [TS]

00:31:12   table with a big family after he had a [TS]

00:31:14   big pile of like sugar packet wrappers [TS]

00:31:17   off to the side one of his distracted [TS]

00:31:20   parents kind of looked over at him [TS]

00:31:23   slapped him on the back of the head and [TS]

00:31:24   said stop doing that I told you to stop [TS]

00:31:26   doing that and so he grabbed his cock [TS]

00:31:30   which now had a pound of extra sugar put [TS]

00:31:36   the coke off the table kind of down in [TS]

00:31:38   his lap while he went in my back to [TS]

00:31:41   being ignored and then continue to pour [TS]

00:31:43   sugar packets into it like under the [TS]

00:31:45   table and you know he used all the sugar [TS]

00:31:49   packet that's a stunning image that [TS]

00:31:51   sticks with you through life and I was [TS]

00:31:53   just like wow and that happened at [TS]

00:31:55   Petticoat Junction so it was like I was [TS]

00:31:56   already my senses were already pretty [TS]

00:31:59   overloaded [TS]

00:32:00   uh-huh sure anyway so so I do this [TS]

00:32:03   adjustment to the to the air cleaner to [TS]

00:32:05   the peanuts of the fuel system i get the [TS]

00:32:07   whole family back in a bolt it all [TS]

00:32:09   together also we're quick check-in know [TS]

00:32:11   but at this point you're thinking you [TS]

00:32:13   know you got what like a like a 10 12 [TS]

00:32:15   hour drive ahead of you [TS]

00:32:16   yeah yeah but i was thinking like this [TS]

00:32:18   is this is all still this is saveable [TS]

00:32:19   everything's going to be fine i'll make [TS]

00:32:21   this adjustment you know you're still [TS]

00:32:24   feeling like mostly optimistic [TS]

00:32:25   no nope I'll a large part of me [TS]

00:32:27   recognizes that whatever the problem is [TS]

00:32:29   it is not a thing that you want so [TS]

00:32:32   desperately in these situations to be [TS]

00:32:34   able to take the air cleaner off moving [TS]

00:32:37   Allen bolt one turn and all of a sudden [TS]

00:32:39   the thing just comes alive but you know [TS]

00:32:42   if you have any experience at all you [TS]

00:32:47   know that that's not actually going to [TS]

00:32:48   happen you have to do it you have to try [TS]

00:32:51   it because what if what if you know like [TS]

00:32:55   that he's talking to me over the phone [TS]

00:32:57   and he's telling me to turn the wrong [TS]

00:32:58   direction so it's not implausible that [TS]

00:33:00   they just didn't adjust it right because [TS]

00:33:04   they don't know what it is it it is [TS]

00:33:06   infuriating but it's not implausible so [TS]

00:33:10   but at the same time I'm moving this [TS]

00:33:11   thing and I just know that there's no [TS]

00:33:13   no way that this is going to be right [TS]

00:33:15   now so I bolted back together it [TS]

00:33:18   actually i have now increased the [TS]

00:33:20   pressure in the fuel-injection system [TS]

00:33:21   enough that it feels like okay here we [TS]

00:33:26   go [TS]

00:33:27   like its it isn't right but we're [TS]

00:33:31   getting some more like the mixture isn't [TS]

00:33:33   lean anymore exactly it couldn't [TS]

00:33:35   possibly be like here we go and so we [TS]

00:33:38   headed off down the road it's still [TS]

00:33:39   backfiring but we're moving and so I'm [TS]

00:33:44   like what could be causing the mixture [TS]

00:33:46   to be lien was not backfiring out the [TS]

00:33:49   back it's backfiring out of in the motor [TS]

00:33:51   and so I'm like fuel filter what if the [TS]

00:33:55   fuel filter is clogged [TS]

00:33:57   what if the fuel pumps bad but i doubt [TS]

00:34:00   it you know like that seems like that [TS]

00:34:02   stuff had been gone through anyway this [TS]

00:34:04   is this is a like a master class in [TS]

00:34:07   trying to diagnose an automotive problem [TS]

00:34:09   if you don't really know anything about [TS]

00:34:11   it a little bit of magical thinking you [TS]

00:34:13   know just like what if it's good blah [TS]

00:34:15   blah blah blah blah so I pull into [TS]

00:34:17   Williams California home of grimaldi's [TS]

00:34:21   famous Garibaldi's famous Italian no [TS]

00:34:26   race you're gonna make me look this up [TS]

00:34:27   again [TS]

00:34:28   Griselda's Griselda's grands Ella's [TS]

00:34:33   grams Ella's mannerless in famous grand [TS]

00:34:36   villas in in Williams California there [TS]

00:34:39   it is not Garibaldi it's a five foot [TS]

00:34:41   five point four square miles gaultieri [TS]

00:34:44   that's it call Thierry's a italian new [TS]

00:34:49   same words now friends Ellison grant [TS]

00:34:51   grant and it's one of these places that [TS]

00:34:55   has i mean when i say it's one of these [TS]

00:34:57   places I mean that it is a singular [TS]

00:34:59   place a a town which has literally [TS]

00:35:04   nothing left at one point it probably [TS]

00:35:08   was an almond farming town or a or pre [TS]

00:35:13   almond it was a supreme element economy [TS]

00:35:15   Amanda might have met the town was built [TS]

00:35:17   in a pre element economy [TS]

00:35:19   and then it had a bet on a flush during [TS]

00:35:21   the big almond years the almond rush but [TS]

00:35:24   somehow Garibaldi's was built there as [TS]

00:35:30   this family style trucker restaurant [TS]

00:35:32   that also happen to have a fully stocked [TS]

00:35:35   italian-style grocery with 80 kinds of [TS]

00:35:39   olives and pickled everything and a deli [TS]

00:35:44   and all these weird Italian candies I [TS]

00:35:46   mean basically one of those stores that [TS]

00:35:48   you go into and you're like wow it's [TS]

00:35:50   Christmas Day and then you walk around [TS]

00:35:53   here like but I don't want any of this [TS]

00:35:54   stuff i don'ti pickled asparagus in a [TS]

00:35:56   jar [TS]

00:35:57   um I'll have a roast beef sandwich to go [TS]

00:35:59   please like this you know it's not i [TS]

00:36:02   don't actually want any of that stuff [TS]

00:36:04   but there it is in Williams California [TS]

00:36:06   but they're also happens to be a napa [TS]

00:36:08   auto parts store in Williams so I I [TS]

00:36:14   parked the RV in front of the Napa and [TS]

00:36:18   my entire family sleeps in the RV in [TS]

00:36:22   front of the Napa and we have a grand [TS]

00:36:25   old time right we're in this very very [TS]

00:36:27   weird completely closed a central [TS]

00:36:31   California town sleeping in the parking [TS]

00:36:33   lot of an auto parts store but were [TS]

00:36:36   alive right [TS]

00:36:38   you're alive and together and it's [TS]

00:36:40   America and this is the first night that [TS]

00:36:44   we've ever really liked spent the night [TS]

00:36:48   in the in the RV my mom I [TS]

00:36:50   eighty-year-old mom is their [TS]

00:36:52   four-year-old daughter is there it's all [TS]

00:36:54   coming together we wake up in the [TS]

00:36:57   morning go into the Napa place they [TS]

00:36:59   actually have a garage attached to it [TS]

00:37:01   and I start talking to a guy named nacho [TS]

00:37:07   buenas Dias and nacho is great not just [TS]

00:37:14   boss is like one of these taciturn like [TS]

00:37:18   cowboy white guys that's worked in an [TS]

00:37:20   auto parts store for 40 years and he's [TS]

00:37:23   just like the only the only thing [TS]

00:37:25   missing was that he was chewing on a [TS]

00:37:27   chair route and he was just like well [TS]

00:37:30   you know we can look at it but this is [TS]

00:37:32   not just boss is not just boss we can [TS]

00:37:34   look at it but you know shop rates [TS]

00:37:35   hundred dollars an hour so i mean i'd [TS]

00:37:38   probably brow look at it but barber I'm [TS]

00:37:41   like alright thanks a lot mr. friendly [TS]

00:37:43   like I'm trying to solve you you [TS]

00:37:44   understand i'm trying to solve a problem [TS]

00:37:47   I don't nobody goes into that place when [TS]

00:37:49   things are going great yeah restaurants [TS]

00:37:51   that's one of those things where like [TS]

00:37:52   he's dealing with people not dealing [TS]

00:37:54   with people who are there to say like I [TS]

00:37:55   just want to check and let you know [TS]

00:37:56   everything's going great [TS]

00:37:57   like everybody who's in there just want [TS]

00:37:59   to get some shit accomplished yeah and [TS]

00:38:00   he may be a little desperate [TS]

00:38:03   so here here it is I'm some I'm some big [TS]

00:38:05   city slicker from Seattle driving a [TS]

00:38:07   vintage RV look at me it was 40 year old [TS]

00:38:10   RV with the 80 year old mother dirty [TS]

00:38:13   doctor of it I come in there with points [TS]

00:38:15   on my collars and a city slicker haircut [TS]

00:38:18   and a little poodle dog on a leash and [TS]

00:38:20   I'm like Audi i think i got a clogged [TS]

00:38:23   fuel filter would you like a white wine [TS]

00:38:25   spritzer you're a dude [TS]

00:38:29   yeah i'm a dude that's right he says not [TS]

00:38:31   less round is funny [TS]

00:38:32   so he puts me in the back and here comes [TS]

00:38:38   nacho and nacho nacho is great not just [TS]

00:38:42   doing five things right there's like [TS]

00:38:44   there's a like a thumb [TS]

00:38:46   there's a dumb puppy face kids trying to [TS]

00:38:48   get a tire off the rim who doesn't know [TS]

00:38:50   how to use the Machine and nacho goes [TS]

00:38:52   over and help them use the machine then [TS]

00:38:55   at a certain point nachos like down on [TS]

00:38:57   the ground underneath the underneath the [TS]

00:38:58   RV a woman comes over and it's not it's [TS]

00:39:01   not afraid to get his hands dirty [TS]

00:39:03   no nachos dirty a woman comes over a [TS]

00:39:06   very clean woman comes over stands there [TS]

00:39:09   looking down at nacho she's like dressed [TS]

00:39:13   well very together she stands there next [TS]

00:39:17   to me with her arms crossed looking down [TS]

00:39:19   at his feet under my RV [TS]

00:39:21   and after about five minutes she says [TS]

00:39:24   nacho he doesn't hear and she says not [TS]

00:39:28   Joe he wheels himself out from under the [TS]

00:39:31   RV and she speaks to him in Spanish for [TS]

00:39:33   two minutes and he goes [TS]

00:39:36   cez and then she turned on her heel and [TS]

00:39:41   kind of stomps off gets in her car [TS]

00:39:44   drives away so she was not chose lady [TS]

00:39:48   who had come by to give him a [TS]

00:39:51   dressing-down oh no and he's like for [TS]

00:39:54   nashik looks at me and kind of drugs and [TS]

00:39:56   gives a little sheepish eyes but they're [TS]

00:39:59   not just stands up and he's like we'll [TS]

00:40:00   listen you know it's not your fuel [TS]

00:40:02   filter it's not your fuel pump those [TS]

00:40:03   things are brand-new if the problem is [TS]

00:40:06   it could be a lot of things and we're [TS]

00:40:10   going to sit here and tear this thing [TS]

00:40:11   apart a hundred dollars an hour like I [TS]

00:40:14   don't know what to tell you don't think [TS]

00:40:15   that's a very good plan i was like i'm [TS]

00:40:18   not sure you are given me the straight [TS]

00:40:20   scoop and I really appreciate it like [TS]

00:40:22   give me like a handful of things that [TS]

00:40:25   you think it could be and he kind of [TS]

00:40:28   give this like I mean you got up your [TS]

00:40:30   backfire you gotta lean mix and no power [TS]

00:40:32   Jesus it's like start at the top it [TS]

00:40:35   could be your radio antenna like that's [TS]

00:40:38   the problem [TS]

00:40:39   so that's what oh yeah this is [TS]

00:40:41   interesting to me this is one of those [TS]

00:40:43   where situations where as a consumer or [TS]

00:40:46   user we go into the situation and saying [TS]

00:40:48   it had the problem is that this thing is [TS]

00:40:51   not running right there must be a [TS]

00:40:52   solution for that and like somebody who [TS]

00:40:53   actually understands the problem domain [TS]

00:40:54   is going to go well no this is the [TS]

00:40:56   result of something or some things and [TS]

00:40:59   it's almost like somebody going to the [TS]

00:41:00   doctor and saying like you know I you [TS]

00:41:03   know I have had nausea and headache so [TS]

00:41:06   therefore I must have this like 10 a lot [TS]

00:41:08   of different things can cause nausea and [TS]

00:41:09   headache and not sure knows that [TS]

00:41:10   yeah and he's looking over his shoulder [TS]

00:41:13   communicating something very key which [TS]

00:41:17   is getting out of here [TS]

00:41:19   yeah yeah yeah yeah that's and he's [TS]

00:41:22   saying he say you know you can tell that [TS]

00:41:25   nacho is the only guy in the entire [TS]

00:41:27   place that knows anything about what's [TS]

00:41:29   going on except for his charity to and [TS]

00:41:31   boss who also knows what's going [TS]

00:41:34   come on but he has graduated to either i [TS]

00:41:38   own the place or I work for the guy that [TS]

00:41:41   owns the place and what I'm trying to do [TS]

00:41:43   is get out of here at the end of the day [TS]

00:41:47   yeah and so when things come up he's [TS]

00:41:49   like he gets on the intercom and he's [TS]

00:41:51   like nacho come to the office and not [TS]

00:41:54   just like shit okay hang on I gotta go [TS]

00:41:56   do this and that happens three times [TS]

00:41:58   while not shows out there talking to me [TS]

00:41:59   so he so he not sure looks at me and [TS]

00:42:03   he's like yeah if it were up to me I [TS]

00:42:06   would sit here with you and go over this [TS]

00:42:08   and diagnose this and try and figure it [TS]

00:42:11   out like it's not that hard but I mean [TS]

00:42:14   it is that hard but it's like this is [TS]

00:42:16   what you do [TS]

00:42:17   well I think I get his telegraphing a [TS]

00:42:20   couple things he's what he's trying to [TS]

00:42:21   say without putting into words is this [TS]

00:42:24   there certainly is a way to fix this but [TS]

00:42:26   there's a for a variety of reasons any [TS]

00:42:28   kind of happened here and now [TS]

00:42:29   well or what he's saying is if you want [TS]

00:42:31   to potentially spend eight hundred [TS]

00:42:35   dollars here today and be here all day [TS]

00:42:38   we we might be able to fix some of it [TS]

00:42:41   right but no guarantee that we will find [TS]

00:42:44   anything and I can't do it for free or [TS]

00:42:48   cheap because i got this guy hanging [TS]

00:42:51   over my head this isn't my shop one day [TS]

00:42:53   man i'm going to save up the money to [TS]

00:42:56   open my own shop right now that he's got [TS]

00:42:58   to please the walking boss that's right [TS]

00:42:59   so he's standing there and we're [TS]

00:43:02   standing there and we're doing the old [TS]

00:43:03   were doing the thing we're kicking the [TS]

00:43:05   tires right we're standing there were [TS]

00:43:07   kicking the tires together and I'm going [TS]

00:43:09   I you know like I'm not afraid to turn a [TS]

00:43:12   wrench on this thing you just gotta give [TS]

00:43:14   me some kinda give me a high sign of [TS]

00:43:18   some kind and he's like I just anything [TS]

00:43:21   I would tell you would be just as likely [TS]

00:43:24   to be false as true and you're going to [TS]

00:43:29   be what under there like adjusting the [TS]

00:43:33   timing i mean you could do that he's [TS]

00:43:35   like you could advance the timing a [TS]

00:43:37   little bit but again that's a like a [TS]

00:43:40   micro adjustment and you're going to be [TS]

00:43:42   under this thing like turning the [TS]

00:43:44   distributor some little bit some five [TS]

00:43:47   degrees you turn this [TS]

00:43:48   computer see if that helps and I'm like [TS]

00:43:50   well fuck 4-4 just under you tell me if [TS]

00:43:54   I'm just dramatizing this but there's [TS]

00:43:56   some other some data points here we have [TS]

00:43:58   to remember now it's a 40 year old RV [TS]

00:44:00   you've got your entire immediate family [TS]

00:44:02   in it [TS]

00:44:03   gifting ages and needs at this moment [TS]

00:44:05   the family is over Garibaldi's and [TS]

00:44:09   they're havin they're havin some kind of [TS]

00:44:11   breakfast breakfast and it's and it's [TS]

00:44:13   about i want to say this would be about [TS]

00:44:16   five days before Christmas Eve [TS]

00:44:20   that's right oh there's that there's [TS]

00:44:21   that too by the way there's Christmas [TS]

00:44:23   coming and it is at least here it was [TS]

00:44:27   cold and rainy cold and rainy [TS]

00:44:29   I mean we got it wasn't the thing is [TS]

00:44:31   everyone in California no no the central [TS]

00:44:33   California and it's it's theirs long [TS]

00:44:36   spots where nothing much happens except [TS]

00:44:38   cold and rain and lonely [TS]

00:44:40   that's what this was so you must have [TS]

00:44:41   must have at least partly gun into your [TS]

00:44:43   thinking it was absolutely cold it was [TS]

00:44:45   absolutely lonely and it was yeah not [TS]

00:44:49   fun at all and you know and also it [TS]

00:44:54   seems like nachos in touch with the wife [TS]

00:44:56   and there's all you know cars are piling [TS]

00:45:01   up and he's the only one that knows [TS]

00:45:02   where the light switches right so I say [TS]

00:45:06   you know what [TS]

00:45:06   all right I'm just gonna drive it and [TS]

00:45:09   I'm gonna rap maroc on through what do [TS]

00:45:11   you think about that nacho and he's like [TS]

00:45:13   it's as good a plan as any [TS]

00:45:15   so I five him i go into the office where [TS]

00:45:21   the guy with the squid-like the Clint [TS]

00:45:22   Eastwood got the squinty eyes and the [TS]

00:45:24   cop moustache is like tell you what i'll [TS]

00:45:27   only charge you 50 bucks [TS]

00:45:29   what because that's weird you know [TS]

00:45:32   yeah it's not it's not that weird [TS]

00:45:35   because I'm not actually a city [TS]

00:45:36   certified dude I just a you know he's he [TS]

00:45:41   saw me coming in he was like city dude [TS]

00:45:42   huh [TS]

00:45:43   but then you know you get in there you [TS]

00:45:45   talk about Vietnam a little bit sure [TS]

00:45:46   everybody's like alright alright alright [TS]

00:45:49   alright you've got a legitimate problem [TS]

00:45:52   and it's actually a problem and and he [TS]

00:45:55   didn't just come in here because the [TS]

00:45:56   radio would [TS]

00:45:57   and your you actually are up a creek and [TS]

00:45:59   like all right here [TS]

00:46:00   fifty bucks just get out of here wow [TS]

00:46:03   that's super cool [TS]

00:46:04   Williams california right through the [TS]

00:46:06   almond economy is down and these guys [TS]

00:46:08   are just sitting around you know and for [TS]

00:46:11   the most part every other vehicle that [TS]

00:46:13   was in that shop was like a farm truck [TS]

00:46:16   that somebody kept running with bailing [TS]

00:46:19   wire and band-aids [TS]

00:46:20   uh-huh and so you know this is a working [TS]

00:46:23   this is a working shop nobody's nobody's [TS]

00:46:26   coming in to repair a dent in their in [TS]

00:46:29   their mini cooper there's a bunch of [TS]

00:46:31   Dodge pickup trucks that like the kid [TS]

00:46:34   the kid that was trying to change the [TS]

00:46:36   tire to get the tire off the rim you [TS]

00:46:39   know it's a job that you have to [TS]

00:46:41   sometimes if you don't have the right [TS]

00:46:43   equipment you know you use a mallet you [TS]

00:46:46   gotta you know we'll get a refund the [TS]

00:46:48   thing this kid's got a ball-peen hammer [TS]

00:46:51   and he's way he's weighing on it in a [TS]

00:46:54   way that even I was like he's gonna [TS]

00:46:55   kneecap himself and not just rolling his [TS]

00:46:58   eyes at him and I'm like who is this kid [TS]

00:47:00   he's probably one of the Grimaldi's [TS]

00:47:03   transplants and and the and then they [TS]

00:47:06   don't want him working over in the [TS]

00:47:07   restaurant you know anyway so I'm pile [TS]

00:47:10   everybody back in the RV and I say [TS]

00:47:12   listen things aren't going so great with [TS]

00:47:14   the RV but but what we have is a the [TS]

00:47:18   power of love ya and be all we have to [TS]

00:47:22   do is get over the siskiyou use one of [TS]

00:47:25   the like for worst interstate passes in [TS]

00:47:30   America and you know past Shasta and all [TS]

00:47:34   the way to Medford and there's an el [TS]

00:47:37   nino storm on the way so we have to do [TS]

00:47:40   is do that which seems pretty simple you [TS]

00:47:44   know it's more or less flat as far as [TS]

00:47:46   reading and then from reading to medford [TS]

00:47:48   how bad can it be [TS]

00:47:50   only 50 semi-trucks overturn and fall [TS]

00:47:54   down a ravine on that stretch of highway [TS]

00:47:56   every year like an Allen wrench how bad [TS]

00:47:59   i got an element [TS]

00:48:01   how bad could it be yeah so off we offer [TS]

00:48:04   motor and you know we're singing songs a [TS]

00:48:08   lot with its [TS]

00:48:09   bye bye thanks nacho right i went into [TS]

00:48:14   grimaldi's walked around could find a [TS]

00:48:17   single fucking thing i wanted to buy and [TS]

00:48:20   i was like i'm actually I need a little [TS]

00:48:21   bit of comfort I i will almost buy a jar [TS]

00:48:24   of pickled asparagus but no it burned to [TS]

00:48:27   the ground was recently rebuilt [TS]

00:48:28   that's right that's right and the new [TS]

00:48:30   one looks very much like the old one [TS]

00:48:31   because I've been to the old one and [TS]

00:48:33   I've been to the new 1i know a few [TS]

00:48:36   things [TS]

00:48:37   food food so off we go and then at a [TS]

00:48:40   certain point and here's the here's the [TS]

00:48:42   awful [TS]

00:48:43   there's the awful part of the story and [TS]

00:48:48   for context we need to go back a little [TS]

00:48:51   bit how far back way back way back to [TS]

00:48:56   the nineteen nineties when they're gonna [TS]

00:48:59   take a dog i'm gonna pack up at the [TS]

00:49:03   Capitol hey give me some of that coffee [TS]

00:49:08   huh [TS]

00:49:09   I'm or break that rusty k to continue to [TS]

00:49:15   get out i don't actually get ring and [TS]

00:49:18   for her so it's no back in the nineties [TS]

00:49:22   my dad is to live in Alaska he calls me [TS]

00:49:25   up and he says I want to move to tacoma [TS]

00:49:27   begins with the phone yeah okay head [TS]

00:49:32   live up here anymore it's too goddamn [TS]

00:49:33   cold and I said are you gonna do that [TS]

00:49:38   Dad and he says I bought a truck and [TS]

00:49:44   immediately I was like he bought a truck [TS]

00:49:46   oh fuck no have I told you this story [TS]

00:49:48   you have it but now is this is after the [TS]

00:49:50   period when your dad used to fly his [TS]

00:49:52   plane to the same place in California to [TS]

00:49:53   visit with mechanic [TS]

00:49:54   yeah energy toward a talker your dad [TS]

00:49:56   would like to talk to the to the service [TS]

00:49:58   people that's right he wants to talk to [TS]

00:49:59   everybody and a certain point I think he [TS]

00:50:02   is as critical faculties maybe no no his [TS]

00:50:05   critical faculties were still sharp but [TS]

00:50:06   his cardiologist took away his pilot's [TS]

00:50:09   license and listen if your cardiologist [TS]

00:50:12   takes away your pilot's license never [TS]

00:50:14   allowed to do that that's pretty fucked [TS]

00:50:15   up [TS]

00:50:15   yeah well that's what happens if your [TS]

00:50:17   cardiologist goes your heart makes you [TS]

00:50:22   a time bomb in a airplane somehow after [TS]

00:50:27   this [TS]

00:50:28   my dad got his cardiologist to reinstate [TS]

00:50:32   his pilot's license but at this period [TS]

00:50:36   he did not have his pilot's license [TS]

00:50:38   because he had had some myocardial [TS]

00:50:41   infarction [TS]

00:50:42   yeah of some kind that didn't quite [TS]

00:50:44   manifest itself so that the rest of us [TS]

00:50:48   knew about it but his cardiologist [TS]

00:50:49   independent so he took away his pilot's [TS]

00:50:52   license so my dad bought a truck he says [TS]

00:50:54   and he says he wants me to come to [TS]

00:50:56   Alaska put all of his stuff in this [TS]

00:51:00   truck and drive it down for him to [TS]

00:51:03   Tacoma and I'm like oh is that like when [TS]

00:51:08   you're before the band stuff that you [TS]

00:51:10   look at the newsstand at this point yeah [TS]

00:51:11   1998 I mean I had a band abundantly [TS]

00:51:14   players but I was you know and I had a I [TS]

00:51:17   had ice [TS]

00:51:18   believe me i had a spirit of adventure [TS]

00:51:20   that and maybe even more of one then but [TS]

00:51:26   I also knew I mean that it was like the [TS]

00:51:30   number of alarm bells that we're going [TS]

00:51:32   off i made my inside of my head sound [TS]

00:51:35   like a pachinko game I was just like oh [TS]

00:51:39   no ding ding ding teaming just drinking [TS]

00:51:42   my dad bought a truck that can't be good [TS]

00:51:44   now this whole cascade of of what [TS]

00:51:46   probably has already gone wrong and what [TS]

00:51:48   can't really go right right so not gonna [TS]

00:51:51   be it's not gonna be a fun relaxing trip [TS]

00:51:53   no this is this is this isn't this isn't [TS]

00:51:55   gonna be good anyway I'm dating a girl [TS]

00:51:57   the time who is from la jolla california [TS]

00:51:59   and she is a very athletic girl she used [TS]

00:52:02   to she was a she was a ballet instructor [TS]

00:52:04   should wake up at five o'clock in the [TS]

00:52:07   morning and she would run to Lake [TS]

00:52:08   Washington jump in swim out to the I [TS]

00:52:13   don't know what two out to the Orca buoy [TS]

00:52:16   swim back run back up the hill as a [TS]

00:52:19   prelude to teaching ballet all day she [TS]

00:52:23   just haven't had one of those [TS]

00:52:24   metabolisms that was like I don't know [TS]

00:52:27   she could be 8,000 calories of food [TS]

00:52:29   today and all she wanted to do was dance [TS]

00:52:32   and you know just uh [TS]

00:52:35   if she if if you didn't take her out [TS]

00:52:37   everyday an exerciser it's like a [TS]

00:52:39   racehorse you know right i just got like [TS]

00:52:41   a slinky Alec border collie yeah she [TS]

00:52:44   would go bananas again we're out a [TS]

00:52:45   little bit she was that she was a [TS]

00:52:46   wonderful wonderful lady instead remains [TS]

00:52:48   a wonderful lady but like she she would [TS]

00:52:50   actually literally climb the walls and [TS]

00:52:53   she had some kind of spider-man [TS]

00:52:54   capability where she could climb the [TS]

00:52:56   walls [TS]

00:52:56   wow you would find her like up in a [TS]

00:52:58   corner of the ceiling nice like come [TS]

00:53:00   down so she was very she had a lot of [TS]

00:53:03   energy and she was very excitable I [TS]

00:53:06   think a good friend of mine the other [TS]

00:53:09   day who has a similar metabolism said to [TS]

00:53:12   me that she had shared a euphoria [TS]

00:53:16   problem so interesting and I was like a [TS]

00:53:18   runner's high kind of thing [TS]

00:53:20   well just like a her capacity for [TS]

00:53:22   euphoria is very she has a very high [TS]

00:53:25   euphoria generator [TS]

00:53:30   yeah and maybe a low threshold of [TS]

00:53:33   euphoria being a problem so you for just [TS]

00:53:36   like what and then no no she was joyful [TS]

00:53:39   uh that's something other than joy [TS]

00:53:43   euphoria in a in a sort of light [TS]

00:53:46   enthusiastic like something that you [TS]

00:53:48   might say about someone who is having a [TS]

00:53:51   religious experience and maybe should be [TS]

00:53:55   confined to a monastery [TS]

00:53:57   ok in any case so I fly to Alaska with [TS]

00:54:04   my girlfriend she's never been to Alaska [TS]

00:54:08   and was excited to go and we get there [TS]

00:54:11   we get to the airport my dad picks us up [TS]

00:54:13   at the airport and we go out and we're [TS]

00:54:15   walking through the parking garage and [TS]

00:54:17   uh oh there's a knock on my office door [TS]

00:54:22   and I think it's mike the the building [TS]

00:54:27   manager terrific we hold on just yet [TS]

00:54:29   while means right [TS]

00:54:31   this has never happened before where [TS]

00:54:33   there was a knock on the door [TS]

00:54:34   let's see if it is well what time do is [TS]

00:54:35   the other guy with the ls like the [TS]

00:54:37   building manager [TS]

00:54:38   who's the guest star on the program the [TS]

00:54:39   first one ever hello everybody [TS]

00:54:42   yeah he's a hear that you're the first [TS]

00:54:44   ever guest star on Robert on the one [TS]

00:54:46   that started opening packages yet no we [TS]

00:54:49   haven't opened the packages Mike was the [TS]

00:54:50   one that was good enough to bring the [TS]

00:54:52   packages in all thanks Mike please don't [TS]

00:54:54   like i said hi so there's a lot to do [TS]

00:54:56   well thank you for the key fob were [TS]

00:54:58   thank you thank you sir but wow he seems [TS]

00:55:03   nice [TS]

00:55:04   I you know frankly i'm glad that it was [TS]

00:55:06   Mike that was the first ever guest on [TS]

00:55:09   the program because he's a good guy is a [TS]

00:55:11   good day we had a cameo from the alarm [TS]

00:55:12   tester one time [TS]

00:55:13   oh alright okay so Michael is learning [TS]

00:55:17   services [TS]

00:55:18   let's not let's not tell Mike that he [TS]

00:55:19   wasn't the first now nice a good guy [TS]

00:55:21   yeah good good man i said he does stuff [TS]

00:55:23   with your packages that's super cool [TS]

00:55:25   well I mean yeah although they did sit [TS]

00:55:28   in the hallway for a week before i [TS]

00:55:29   called it was like hey mike i'm going to [TS]

00:55:31   take the prison anyway so we get off the [TS]

00:55:36   weekend off the plane at this point in [TS]

00:55:38   your RV story in the nineties you and [TS]

00:55:40   your girlfriend are landing in Alaska [TS]

00:55:42   that's right so we walked through the [TS]

00:55:46   airport parking lot and I'm thinking to [TS]

00:55:47   myself my dad bought a truck please [TS]

00:55:50   please please please let it be a halfway [TS]

00:55:54   decent track and walking through and you [TS]

00:55:57   know it's it's the parking lot of [TS]

00:55:59   anchorage international airport now [TS]

00:56:00   renamed the Ted Stevens Memorial Airport [TS]

00:56:04   and so every vehicle in the parking [TS]

00:56:07   garage is a truck and we're walking [TS]

00:56:11   along and I'm like that's a cool truck [TS]

00:56:12   please let it be that truck and we [TS]

00:56:15   walked past the truck and I'm like oh [TS]

00:56:16   look at that truck is that please let [TS]

00:56:18   that be the truck that's not the truck [TS]

00:56:20   ohmygod ohmygod that truck that truck is [TS]

00:56:22   cool [TS]

00:56:23   that's not the truck that truck yeah [TS]

00:56:26   okay that truck is fine [TS]

00:56:28   that's not the truck and then we get and [TS]

00:56:32   I this it's like it's like you did this [TS]

00:56:34   on purpose we get past every great truck [TS]

00:56:38   and then at the far end of the parking [TS]

00:56:40   garage there's this truck that looks [TS]

00:56:42   like it's been there for 40 years [TS]

00:56:44   you know like looks like it lives in the [TS]

00:56:47   parking garage because no one ever [TS]

00:56:49   claimed it and because its Anchorage [TS]

00:56:51   they never told it [TS]

00:56:52   tall and I'm like oh no no no not that [TS]

00:56:55   truck no no no please please please not [TS]

00:56:59   that truck and dance like there she is [TS]

00:57:00   and it's a it's like a 19-7 d7 Chevy [TS]

00:57:16   High Sierra half-ton rust bucket that [TS]

00:57:24   was formerly like when it was brand-new [TS]

00:57:27   it was like a high a high trim model [TS]

00:57:31   also is it kind of like one of the [TS]

00:57:34   earlier like you know suburban guy [TS]

00:57:36   no it's just a pickup truck but it's got [TS]

00:57:38   a but it's got a canopy on the back and [TS]

00:57:42   in 1977 or whatever it had been a high [TS]

00:57:45   trim model but it's been through so many [TS]

00:57:47   lives since then and we opened the door [TS]

00:57:50   and it's just it's completely rusted out [TS]

00:57:52   it's a garbage truck it has no value and [TS]

00:57:56   I opened the door and the headliners [TS]

00:57:58   sagging and it's clear again that it has [TS]

00:58:01   been owned by people who both smoke and [TS]

00:58:04   have dogs and big Alaskan dogs which [TS]

00:58:08   they do not as most Alaskans to travel [TS]

00:58:12   with back in the back under the canopy [TS]

00:58:15   they travel not want to be warm and [TS]

00:58:16   smoke that's right they put the dogs up [TS]

00:58:19   front and so it's again i have to [TS]

00:58:21   restate that it is Alaska and so these [TS]

00:58:24   are wet dogs covered with salt who get [TS]

00:58:29   in the inside of the vehicle and [TS]

00:58:31   perspire and mold and it's just like [TS]

00:58:35   it's almost you almost can't stand to be [TS]

00:58:38   in the cab and my girlfriend is just [TS]

00:58:42   like Alaska way and I'm like oh there [TS]

00:58:46   are so many Alaska's baby and this is [TS]

00:58:47   not the one [TS]

00:58:49   this is not the one that i wanted to [TS]

00:58:52   show you this is the other one the one [TS]

00:58:54   I've been trying to escape the 1i [TS]

00:58:55   thought I had achieved escape velocity [TS]

00:58:57   from [TS]

00:58:59   and now here I am back in this truck and [TS]

00:59:02   dad is like I was down at the cafe in [TS]

00:59:06   Girdwood and some girl that was wearing [TS]

00:59:10   a Indian blanket said that she had a [TS]

00:59:14   truck for sale and i said i'll buy it [TS]

00:59:18   I need a truck so we get back to my [TS]

00:59:26   dad's place where Indian blanket me [TS]

00:59:28   literally like way she was wearing any [TS]

00:59:32   blank and her boyfriend had a sheepskin [TS]

00:59:33   on who I so he pays you know he plays [TS]

00:59:38   $1,500 for this thing and it isn't worth [TS]

00:59:40   forty dollars we get back to his house [TS]

00:59:43   and he says you know loaded up driving [TS]

00:59:46   to tacoma I'm gonna fly down to come [TS]

00:59:48   i'll see you when you get there and so [TS]

00:59:50   we have a wonderful time she and I [TS]

00:59:51   loading up his truck and we get on the [TS]

00:59:53   road and we drive and drive and drive [TS]

00:59:55   drive and drive and driver were all the [TS]

00:59:58   way up in a [TS]

00:59:58   way up in a [TS]

01:00:00   delta junction and your kindness I think [TS]

01:00:07   we're sleeping in the cab [TS]

01:00:09   oh I had had torn out all the headliner [TS]

01:00:11   and all the soft material to try to get [TS]

01:00:13   the dog out of it huh [TS]

01:00:15   anyway we're making it work we cross [TS]

01:00:18   over into the Yukon and I've been doing [TS]

01:00:21   all the driving and finally just wiped [TS]

01:00:23   out and I hand over the driving to her [TS]

01:00:26   and I'm like no I see just take over and [TS]

01:00:31   drive for a little while we're up here [TS]

01:00:32   in the Yukon it's just open highway [TS]

01:00:34   there's no there's not even any trees up [TS]

01:00:36   here just you know just a just pointed [TS]

01:00:39   down the road and I fall asleep and wake [TS]

01:00:43   up to the sound of the motor seizing and [TS]

01:00:50   I go one what is happening you know [TS]

01:00:52   steam and smoke pouring out of it and [TS]

01:00:55   she's like oh i don't know like all [TS]

01:00:59   these lights started coming on and I [TS]

01:01:01   didn't know what they were i just [TS]

01:01:03   figured it was like we telling me that [TS]

01:01:06   that things were going great and you [TS]

01:01:09   know everything that everything you know [TS]

01:01:11   the oil pressures gone temperatures all [TS]

01:01:14   pegged I'm just like oh no theres I it [TS]

01:01:17   wouldn't have occurred to me to say if [TS]

01:01:19   anything changes right [TS]

01:01:21   wake me up and pull over to the side of [TS]

01:01:24   the road and so we here we were with [TS]

01:01:27   this truck full of my dad stuff and it [TS]

01:01:30   was just then the motor was just a lump [TS]

01:01:32   and that was a terrible adventure [TS]

01:01:36   because we were out in the middle of [TS]

01:01:40   literally nowhere and had to hitchhike [TS]

01:01:43   bag and find a guy that had a truck that [TS]

01:01:46   would tell us back to the town that was [TS]

01:01:48   made out of shipping containers and they [TS]

01:01:51   had a phone i guess where they could [TS]

01:01:56   call to the town that had electricity [TS]

01:01:58   and running water and that somebody came [TS]

01:02:00   out from that town and I said to that [TS]

01:02:03   guy look I don't wanna I don't want to [TS]

01:02:05   fix this thing i want to send it to the [TS]

01:02:08   bottom / of a lake and I know you guys [TS]

01:02:09   have a lake up here that you put old [TS]

01:02:11   cars [TS]

01:02:13   what I want to do is buy a truck from [TS]

01:02:16   you find a truck in this town that [TS]

01:02:19   somebody will sell me and he was like oh [TS]

01:02:20   I I've got a truck [TS]

01:02:22   it's a Ford f-250 and it's got a Chevy [TS]

01:02:24   motor and I was like sold and bought [TS]

01:02:28   that truck loaded on my dad's stuff in [TS]

01:02:30   it drove it down and then had that truck [TS]

01:02:33   for four years and loved it [TS]

01:02:35   now fast-forward to redding california a [TS]

01:02:42   week ago and I say how the rest of the [TS]

01:02:46   move go [TS]

01:02:47   oh we got my dad stuff down there [TS]

01:02:49   unfortunately the stress of that i did [TS]

01:02:53   not handle that situation as well as i [TS]

01:02:56   wished i had and if the stress of it [TS]

01:03:00   caused my lady friend and me to break up [TS]

01:03:05   man [TS]

01:03:06   also I'd lost my glasses so i was [TS]

01:03:09   driving most of the way just sort of [TS]

01:03:12   orienting myself on large shapes which [TS]

01:03:20   is normally fine except when the sun [TS]

01:03:22   goes down then you have the the the [TS]

01:03:26   depth perception problem because the [TS]

01:03:28   rods in the cone Sheridan County man and [TS]

01:03:31   that the Purkinje shift purkinje shift [TS]

01:03:33   right so so if that was fine because it [TS]

01:03:38   was Alaska in the summertime and the Sun [TS]

01:03:40   was up all the time but as we got as we [TS]

01:03:42   move further south the Sun started to go [TS]

01:03:44   down periodically and that made it even [TS]

01:03:47   more difficult to stew to drive by [TS]

01:03:49   Braille as I was kind of doing [TS]

01:03:51   I almost hit a Mountie because in Canada [TS]

01:03:54   when they want to pull you over on the [TS]

01:03:55   highway a Mountie just steps out into [TS]

01:03:57   the road and waves at you and I look [TS]

01:04:00   like old Barry just stick a leg out [TS]

01:04:02   yeah kind of like they get you on the [TS]

01:04:04   radar and then up the road there's just [TS]

01:04:06   a guy who's standing on the side of the [TS]

01:04:08   road he walks out and flags you down and [TS]

01:04:10   you pull over [TS]

01:04:11   wow you know he very politely flags down [TS]

01:04:13   you pull over very politely he politely [TS]

01:04:15   gives you a ticket and you politely go [TS]

01:04:17   on your way [TS]

01:04:18   canada canada canada yep and I didn't [TS]

01:04:20   see him and I almost ran him over and [TS]

01:04:22   then I locked up the brakes and he came [TS]

01:04:25   running up to the side he was like you [TS]

01:04:26   almost killed me a and I was like sorry [TS]

01:04:29   man I didn't see was like didn't see me [TS]

01:04:31   i was standing in the middle of the road [TS]

01:04:33   and I was like yeah I didn't want to say [TS]

01:04:37   like I don't have my glasses on right [TS]

01:04:39   and anyway that's neither here nor there [TS]

01:04:44   so in redding california i say are no [TS]

01:04:48   outside reading south of south of [TS]

01:04:49   redding several several dozens of miles [TS]

01:04:51   i say look I need to just take a little [TS]

01:04:54   nap I've been driving a lot sort of [TS]

01:04:56   stressed out [TS]

01:04:57   the thing is running or back nearly net [TS]

01:04:59   2015 back in 2015 and I hand the [TS]

01:05:02   controls over to my daughter's mother [TS]

01:05:05   and say like head on up the highway just [TS]

01:05:10   pointed down the road and and wake me [TS]

01:05:16   when you get to the mountains so outside [TS]

01:05:18   of reading it starts to get mountainous [TS]

01:05:24   right away and when that happens [TS]

01:05:28   pull over and wake me up and and i'll [TS]

01:05:31   drive us through the through the crazy [TS]

01:05:34   area because the this is an RV and it's [TS]

01:05:37   you know it can go highway speeds but [TS]

01:05:40   you eat when you're gonna break you have [TS]

01:05:42   to be anticipating when you want to stop [TS]

01:05:45   you know you have to look way ahead and [TS]

01:05:47   break [TS]

01:05:47   well in advance so I go back and I go to [TS]

01:05:53   sleep and when I wake up I i come [TS]

01:05:56   forward in the RV and I say how's it [TS]

01:05:58   going and she says great i mean we've [TS]

01:06:02   been smoking for a little while or and I [TS]

01:06:04   said what smoking what she said yeah [TS]

01:06:07   we're just kind of trailing some smoke [TS]

01:06:09   and I looked in the rearview mirror and [TS]

01:06:11   we are one of those vintage RVs that is [TS]

01:06:16   laying down some battle ship level [TS]

01:06:20   smokescreen and I'm like whoa what whoa [TS]

01:06:25   pull over pull over pull over and almost [TS]

01:06:29   immediately [TS]

01:06:31   the amount of smoke that we are trailing [TS]

01:06:33   quadruples so that we are just boring [TS]

01:06:37   smoke out the back and I'm like boerboel [TS]

01:06:40   overblown and we pull off the side of [TS]

01:06:43   the road but we are in the mountains [TS]

01:06:45   we're past redding we are we're fully in [TS]

01:06:48   the mountains and I'm like how did we [TS]

01:06:49   get here and she's like well I didn't [TS]

01:06:51   want to wake you up and I figured what [TS]

01:06:52   the hell [TS]

01:06:53   and so where we pull over is down in a [TS]

01:06:56   hole right at the intersection of old [TS]

01:06:59   salt lick road and salt lake lake road [TS]

01:07:02   and there's just smoke pouring out of [TS]

01:07:07   the RV so that I I you know I spent like [TS]

01:07:10   everybody out out get out because I'm [TS]

01:07:13   afraid that it's that it is on fire and [TS]

01:07:17   i have subjected my lovely family to [TS]

01:07:20   this adventure thus far but I also now [TS]

01:07:24   at this point feel like we've crossed [TS]

01:07:26   some threshold i do not want them [TS]

01:07:28   immolated in the RV in a sudden flash [TS]

01:07:31   fire [TS]

01:07:31   uh-huh so I pull the top off the motor [TS]

01:07:34   I've got my fire extinguisher their [TS]

01:07:36   smoke is pouring out but it's not coming [TS]

01:07:38   from the top of the motor it's coming [TS]

01:07:40   from underneath and I'm like you know I [TS]

01:07:43   don't want to i want to send the I don't [TS]

01:07:45   want to put the fire extinguisher on [TS]

01:07:47   this thing and like that that's now [TS]

01:07:50   that's not going to be good because [TS]

01:07:52   there's no fire so I sit there with the [TS]

01:07:55   RV filled with smoke just sort of like [TS]

01:07:59   you know there's something far too [TS]

01:08:03   broken in me to ever really weep [TS]

01:08:07   unless unless it's my cat getting hit by [TS]

01:08:10   car market in that case you know [TS]

01:08:13   yes i can get it penetrates all the [TS]

01:08:15   other monster [TS]

01:08:16   yeah but I am NOT I am NOT a person who [TS]

01:08:19   in exhaustion and other failure sits and [TS]

01:08:25   weeps but i am hanging my head because [TS]

01:08:29   this is a bad situation and we are in a [TS]

01:08:32   bad place for this to happen [TS]

01:08:36   and so I say the RV i do not know what [TS]

01:08:40   is wrong with the RV i do not think that [TS]

01:08:42   we have blown the head i do not there is [TS]

01:08:48   no steam i do not feel like we have I do [TS]

01:08:54   not feel like we have seized the motor [TS]

01:08:55   there the place that the smoke is coming [TS]

01:08:58   from makes me think that it is that the [TS]

01:09:00   transmission has sprayed fluid all over [TS]

01:09:03   the bottom of the motor and that that [TS]

01:09:05   that is the cause of the smoke it does [TS]

01:09:08   not seem like it's the motor but I don't [TS]

01:09:11   know and I do not want to start it and I [TS]

01:09:14   do not want to try and drive it so i [TS]

01:09:16   have quite as where this is where this [TS]

01:09:19   is where it comes in handy right this is [TS]

01:09:21   where comes a super-duper platinum [TS]

01:09:24   top-shelf bar brand triple-a service i [TS]

01:09:29   have the top triple-a that you've got [TS]

01:09:31   the secret like triple a black like you [TS]

01:09:33   have to apply [TS]

01:09:34   that's right you can you can use this to [TS]

01:09:35   tell anything i have triple-a that will [TS]

01:09:38   get that truck out of that lake in the [TS]

01:09:41   northern Yukon Territories and get it [TS]

01:09:43   running again like the triple-a i have [TS]

01:09:46   the triple-a that that will rescue a [TS]

01:09:49   plane like I have the triple-a that you [TS]

01:09:54   can use in europe like I have it I have [TS]

01:09:57   the i have this i have the diamond level [TS]

01:10:00   triple-a and so I'm like okay we don't [TS]

01:10:02   have any cell service down in this hole [TS]

01:10:04   in this mountain so I'm gonna climb up [TS]

01:10:06   the road and try and get triple-a on the [TS]

01:10:09   phone and my mom you know as previously [TS]

01:10:13   characterized is very good in these [TS]

01:10:15   situations and she's pretty good like [TS]

01:10:18   navigating her way through a phone tree [TS]

01:10:20   where I often get frustrated [TS]

01:10:23   she's just like you know push to talk to [TS]

01:10:26   her you know push to if you want to use [TS]

01:10:29   triple a's new 15-percent just found at [TS]

01:10:32   walmart Simeon on things like that it's [TS]

01:10:34   almost like that that's her that's a [TS]

01:10:35   cross word for her like she's ready to [TS]

01:10:37   just say okay let's do this thing [TS]

01:10:38   let's figure it out yeah and so all of [TS]

01:10:41   us grown-up adults are our cycling one [TS]

01:10:46   of us will walk up to the top of the [TS]

01:10:48   road call triple-a [TS]

01:10:49   the other you know I'm monitoring the [TS]

01:10:51   motor sometimes where paul also playing [TS]

01:10:53   with the baby and triple-a is still [TS]

01:10:57   running at this point the I mean it has [TS]

01:10:59   to be done right [TS]

01:11:00   no no it's cooked and could you share [TS]

01:11:02   with our listeners the consequences of [TS]

01:11:03   the engine on the RV not running anymore [TS]

01:11:05   oh well when the engine on the RV [TS]

01:11:07   doesn't run neither do any of the system [TS]

01:11:09   and no electric no heat no electric no [TS]

01:11:11   heat [TS]

01:11:12   I mean there's there's enough so it's [TS]

01:11:13   stored in the in the in the shore [TS]

01:11:16   battery that we have we have lights we [TS]

01:11:19   have fluorescent light bulb the furnace [TS]

01:11:21   isn't going to run and and we're in the [TS]

01:11:25   mountains and it's winter and there's a [TS]

01:11:27   storm coming and so it's it gets very [TS]

01:11:31   cold so everybody is wrapped in wool [TS]

01:11:33   blankets and and we get our we get it to [TS]

01:11:39   play on the phone now I'm a I'm a [TS]

01:11:41   proponent of triple-a I think everybody [TS]

01:11:43   should have it but i will say that fully [TS]

01:11:45   fifty percent of the time you call [TS]

01:11:47   triple-a you get the worst service in [TS]

01:11:49   the world and it's because triple-a has [TS]

01:11:51   no competitors there's not another [TS]

01:11:54   service where you call it may come [TS]

01:11:55   rescue you [TS]

01:11:56   also i think at least when I was younger [TS]

01:11:58   I i didn't understand what triple-a [TS]

01:12:00   actually was and it's in some ways [TS]

01:12:03   triple-a has always been mostly in the [TS]

01:12:04   insurance business and if you think [TS]

01:12:06   about it like i remember when i first [TS]

01:12:07   had to replace service you get a [TS]

01:12:09   discount get your insurance to triple-a [TS]

01:12:10   in that sense triple-a is more like an [TS]

01:12:12   HMO for your car right some ways right [TS]

01:12:15   in essence isn't perfect analogy but [TS]

01:12:17   what I didn't realize until i started [TS]

01:12:19   using it when I gotta go gotta car again [TS]

01:12:21   and needed it and was that they [TS]

01:12:23   basically there that's a car that you [TS]

01:12:25   carry with a number for a call center [TS]

01:12:27   and then they call it the people right [TS]

01:12:30   and they pay you know they pay other [TS]

01:12:33   people to be there triple-a guys and [TS]

01:12:36   what they're counting on is that ninety [TS]

01:12:39   percent of the people that use triple-a [TS]

01:12:41   don't use it they just have it if they [TS]

01:12:44   need it which they don't [TS]

01:12:46   and when they do it usually is like come [TS]

01:12:48   change my tire [TS]

01:12:49   um it's not a big deal and it's the rare [TS]

01:12:54   situation where where somebody [TS]

01:12:56   legitimately is out in the boonies and i [TS]

01:12:58   am often that guy right a triple-a saved [TS]

01:13:02   my [TS]

01:13:03   save my skin when my other GMC my other [TS]

01:13:08   ill-advised purchase of a GMC vehicle a [TS]

01:13:10   year ago broke down outside of st. Louis [TS]

01:13:13   they told me a hundred miles with with [TS]

01:13:15   everybody in the you know everybody in [TS]

01:13:17   the cab allow tow truck that's nice and [TS]

01:13:19   you pay that much more plus and that [TS]

01:13:22   it's worth it man it's worth I made it [TS]

01:13:24   he told me a hundred miles and park and [TS]

01:13:26   and unloaded my vehicle in the parking [TS]

01:13:28   lot of the sharon and which which you [TS]

01:13:33   know I'd gotten a room there through the [TS]

01:13:35   through the priceline as I'm driving in [TS]

01:13:38   there i was like take us there and it [TS]

01:13:39   was nice hotel and you know that [TS]

01:13:42   Sharon's not gonna kick you out if [TS]

01:13:44   you're staying there [TS]

01:13:45   so anyway but in this case triple-a you [TS]

01:13:50   go through all the things you're like [TS]

01:13:52   hot you know the phone tree and the [TS]

01:13:54   enter your number and then they get you [TS]

01:13:56   on the phone and they want to have all [TS]

01:13:57   this irrelevant information about your [TS]

01:13:59   birthday and and you know what your [TS]

01:14:02   favorite color is and and you're like [TS]

01:14:05   look we're standing on the side of the [TS]

01:14:06   road can't we work all this out after [TS]

01:14:08   you get a tow truck on the way here and [TS]

01:14:10   they're like well we know we have to [TS]

01:14:11   know you know we have to know like the [TS]

01:14:14   average rainfall in the Amazon basin and [TS]

01:14:18   so finally they're like okay tow truck [TS]

01:14:21   will be there in 45 minutes and an hour [TS]

01:14:22   and a half went by and we climb back up [TS]

01:14:24   the mountain call them again and they're [TS]

01:14:26   like oh sorry we didn't have one piece [TS]

01:14:28   of information that we needed and so we [TS]

01:14:30   just didn't send a tow truck [TS]

01:14:32   we tried to call you but you didn't [TS]

01:14:33   answer it's like well yeah we don't have [TS]

01:14:35   cell phone service down in the RV where [TS]

01:14:37   the baby is [TS]

01:14:38   and so we aren't standing up here hoping [TS]

01:14:42   you're gonna call like when yes is not [TS]

01:14:44   like you're stuck at the mall [TS]

01:14:45   yeah right i mean if you say 45 minutes [TS]

01:14:48   you know like 45 minutes and they're [TS]

01:14:50   like yeah we couldn't do it until we [TS]

01:14:52   also got this last piece of information [TS]

01:14:54   but we need you to confirm all the [TS]

01:14:56   information you added before and then [TS]

01:14:58   the last piece of information we needed [TS]

01:14:59   was what are the last four numbers of [TS]

01:15:02   your driver's license number it's just [TS]

01:15:03   like you fucking assholes so they they [TS]

01:15:06   take it and like all right we're going [TS]

01:15:08   to [TS]

01:15:08   no it'll be there in 45 minutes and we [TS]

01:15:09   go back down to the RV we hold under the [TS]

01:15:11   blankets for an hour and a half and then [TS]

01:15:12   climb back up the mountain where is the [TS]

01:15:14   RV well we need to know we tried to call [TS]

01:15:18   you [TS]

01:15:19   we need to know the destination that [TS]

01:15:21   you're taking the RV i'll come on and we [TS]

01:15:24   couldn't send a truck until we knew the [TS]

01:15:26   destination and I'm like I don't [TS]

01:15:28   literally makes no sense it doesn't make [TS]

01:15:29   any sense but here's what's happening [TS]

01:15:31   triple-a is calling tow truck company's [TS]

01:15:34   in the in the larger Reading area and [TS]

01:15:38   they are all saying ah yeah no no thanks [TS]

01:15:42   we don't want to take this contract and [TS]

01:15:45   it's because the amount of money that [TS]

01:15:48   they're going to get for this job from [TS]

01:15:50   triple-a does not compensate them for [TS]

01:15:52   the work they don't feel on this [TS]

01:15:55   particular day and I'm like really [TS]

01:15:57   this is optional for them whether or not [TS]

01:16:00   to take the job at that point at this [TS]

01:16:02   point it's not so different from why we [TS]

01:16:04   can't get cabs in my neighborhood a [TS]

01:16:05   dispatcher calls a cab driver says would [TS]

01:16:07   you like to drive way the fuck out to [TS]

01:16:09   the western part of san francisco ok [TS]

01:16:10   sure they go one block they see somebody [TS]

01:16:12   else they can pick up they take it there [TS]

01:16:13   a tow truck driver who's in the busy [TS]

01:16:16   holiday season is going to make more [TS]

01:16:18   money for a bunch of little jobs than [TS]

01:16:20   one huge job they mean I didn't get all [TS]

01:16:21   their money from ya [TS]

01:16:22   yep and so they are just not coming and [TS]

01:16:26   so they say alright so i say look the [TS]

01:16:29   destination is I don't know I don't know [TS]

01:16:31   that all the companies in reading it's [TS]

01:16:34   friday night it's i called you at [TS]

01:16:37   one-thirty it's now for the number of [TS]

01:16:40   places that we could have taken it is is [TS]

01:16:43   rapidly turning 20 please just send a [TS]

01:16:47   truck we'll figure out where to take it [TS]

01:16:50   they're like okay we'll be there in 45 [TS]

01:16:52   minutes or an hour and a half later now [TS]

01:16:55   it's 530 the Sun has gone down the [TS]

01:16:58   temperature in the RV is 34 degrees [TS]

01:17:01   what and a guy comes along in a truck [TS]

01:17:06   and he says hey I saw you here two hours [TS]

01:17:08   ago I didn't stop because i had to go in [TS]

01:17:10   to get my gun cleaned but uh now i'm [TS]

01:17:15   back to you want to ride somewhere and [TS]

01:17:16   he takes me down to Mount Shasta town [TS]

01:17:19   where he has a friend who runs a tow [TS]

01:17:22   truck operation i get that guy on the [TS]

01:17:25   phone he says oh yeah triple triple he's [TS]

01:17:26   been calling me all afternoon but I [TS]

01:17:28   don't have a I don't ever read big [TS]

01:17:30   enough to haul that tanker sorry [TS]

01:17:34   and so I have this nice man take me back [TS]

01:17:38   to the rig [TS]

01:17:40   I climb up the mountain I call triple-a [TS]

01:17:44   this is now that i have i have shortened [TS]

01:17:47   this story because in and what you're [TS]

01:17:50   what you're leaving out as a kindness I [TS]

01:17:52   I imagine is that when you go and they [TS]

01:17:54   say 45 minutes each time and you turn [TS]

01:17:57   off your phone and you just quietly wait [TS]

01:17:59   for what may or may not happen but it [TS]

01:18:00   probably won't even be 45 minutes it's [TS]

01:18:02   that feeling of hopelessness [TS]

01:18:03   yeah that hopelessness and if you you if [TS]

01:18:05   you start to yell at them they go into [TS]

01:18:08   hyper trained a customer service mode [TS]

01:18:13   where they call you sir [TS]

01:18:15   and they say you know they like customer [TS]

01:18:17   service you to death [TS]

01:18:18   oh yeah and so that you don't want to [TS]

01:18:20   get too polite [TS]

01:18:21   yeah you can't yell at them you can ask [TS]

01:18:23   to speak to their supervisor because [TS]

01:18:25   they are the supervisor and so here's [TS]

01:18:28   the most amazing thing I call them [TS]

01:18:30   finally and this is this is the tenth [TS]

01:18:33   time I've talked to triple-a this day [TS]

01:18:35   for the 10th time that one of us has [TS]

01:18:37   talked to triple-a all of the grown-ups [TS]

01:18:39   have spent time on on the phone and I [TS]

01:18:42   call them the tenth time and I get [TS]

01:18:44   someone on the phone who wants to know [TS]

01:18:46   the last four my social security number [TS]

01:18:47   and wants to confirm my birthdate and [TS]

01:18:50   I'm like I was just on the phone with [TS]

01:18:53   somebody and they and the woman says oh [TS]

01:18:55   I don't have any record of you in our [TS]

01:18:57   system as having called today and I do [TS]

01:19:01   start to kind of yell not really yell [TS]

01:19:04   but sort of speak authoritative Lee and [TS]

01:19:09   she says get this she says oh I'm sorry [TS]

01:19:15   but we could not find a tow truck [TS]

01:19:17   company in the region who would take the [TS]

01:19:19   call [TS]

01:19:21   and I said Who [TS]

01:19:25   so what's next no big deal to worry [TS]

01:19:27   about it and she says I'm sorry starting [TS]

01:19:30   convenience you that's kind of that's [TS]

01:19:33   kind of it she says and I'm like what do [TS]

01:19:37   you mean I mean I have triple a diamond [TS]

01:19:39   platinum are vetoing triple-a i'm in the [TS]

01:19:44   mountains in a dead RV with my entire [TS]

01:19:47   family [TS]

01:19:48   you're telling me that there's nothing [TS]

01:19:52   more you can do and she says yeah sorry [TS]

01:19:57   is there anything else I can help you [TS]

01:19:59   with tonight I'm just like I don't I [TS]

01:20:02   don't I don't understand you have [TS]

01:20:04   resources that i don't have can you just [TS]

01:20:06   talk call a can you call the reading [TS]

01:20:09   police can you call anybody [TS]

01:20:11   she's like yeah we've sort of we've [TS]

01:20:13   tried everything you can call a towing [TS]

01:20:18   company she said and try to get them to [TS]

01:20:20   come out and pay the money for them and [TS]

01:20:23   then apply to be reimbursed was just [TS]

01:20:27   like okay yeah i definitely don't put [TS]

01:20:30   that on the poster when you're trying to [TS]

01:20:32   sign people up for triple-a now and then [TS]

01:20:34   she and then literally she says is there [TS]

01:20:36   anything else I can help you with [TS]

01:20:37   dinosaur has it as if i'm going to order [TS]

01:20:39   a t-shirt and so I get off the phone and [TS]

01:20:44   I start calling just I just google I'm [TS]

01:20:48   above on the top of the mountain on [TS]

01:20:49   googling tow truck company's and reading [TS]

01:20:51   I call a couple of them some nice lady [TS]

01:20:54   tells me to call Keith stowing and I [TS]

01:20:57   call Keith snowing and i say i'm in an [TS]

01:21:00   RV i'm stuck on old salt lick road and [TS]

01:21:02   he's like oh you're that guy [TS]

01:21:04   yeah they've been calling here are all [TS]

01:21:07   afternoon [TS]

01:21:08   um yeah all right we'll come get you and [TS]

01:21:13   I was like fucking what are you serious [TS]

01:21:15   and he's like yeah yeah alright we'll [TS]

01:21:16   come get you [TS]

01:21:17   we didn't want to do it but yeah alright [TS]

01:21:19   you call this you talking to us directly [TS]

01:21:21   that's okay okay and I'm like are you [TS]

01:21:25   serious right now is like yeah we'll be [TS]

01:21:27   there in 45 minutes but here's the [TS]

01:21:29   problem [TS]

01:21:30   you have to call us through triple-a so [TS]

01:21:34   call triple-a back tell them that [TS]

01:21:37   Keith's towing says they'll take the job [TS]

01:21:39   tell him it's a t13 and and we'll do it [TS]

01:21:43   I was like oh please don't make me [TS]

01:21:45   culture bleh i'll just pay you the money [TS]

01:21:47   and he said you don't want to do that [TS]

01:21:48   it's going to be very expensive just [TS]

01:21:51   give a rough idea of like how much I [TS]

01:21:53   have no idea what he said was very [TS]

01:21:55   expensive i was just like okay but I [TS]

01:21:58   don't want to know anymore right [TS]

01:22:00   I do not want to know anymore you you be [TS]

01:22:02   paying like the serious rack rate who [TS]

01:22:04   knows i mean i'd be paying the cost of [TS]

01:22:07   the vehicle you know so I cultural a [TS]

01:22:11   again I go through that whole thing [TS]

01:22:12   again all the phone tree all of the put [TS]

01:22:15   in your social security number and you [TS]

01:22:17   can just hear it in my voice it's like [TS]

01:22:18   the voice that i use with customs people [TS]

01:22:20   where it's like I know I've got a bag [TS]

01:22:23   full of Cuban cigars but I'm so mad at [TS]

01:22:25   you right now that i'm gonna i am going [TS]

01:22:28   to fucking white privilege you into [TS]

01:22:31   letting me go through here like just a [TS]

01:22:34   so mad and I finally say called Keith [TS]

01:22:38   stowing tellement sati 13 or time [TS]

01:22:40   telling us atty 13 and she starts to say [TS]

01:22:43   something I'm like just called Keystone [TS]

01:22:45   please just keeps telling let me just [TS]

01:22:47   say it again Keith stowing please [TS]

01:22:49   so she does and for up an hour and a [TS]

01:22:55   half later not 45 minutes an hour and a [TS]

01:22:57   half later now in the middle of the [TS]

01:22:58   night we are we're conserving our body [TS]

01:23:00   heat here comes this rig this magical [TS]

01:23:04   tow truck a magical tow truck that could [TS]

01:23:07   that could basically like pull down a [TS]

01:23:12   water tower it is i'm guessing it's the [TS]

01:23:15   kind of touchy used to toe another truck [TS]

01:23:18   yeah it's a semi towing tow truck while [TS]

01:23:21   she shows up the guy that is driving at [TS]

01:23:26   Travis is a great guy he's wearing [TS]

01:23:29   camouflage baseball hat pretty sure he's [TS]

01:23:32   a deer hunter [TS]

01:23:34   and find out your eyes your new nacho [TS]

01:23:36   he's that is the is he's not so too [TS]

01:23:40   he's not a deer hunter in the sense that [TS]

01:23:42   he plays Russian Roulette he's a deer [TS]

01:23:43   hunter in the sense that he you know he [TS]

01:23:46   believes in the Second Amendment rights [TS]

01:23:48   but he also knows how to backup a [TS]

01:23:50   semi-truck that's carrying an RV on a [TS]

01:23:54   mountain road and he looks up he puts [TS]

01:23:57   the whole family in the cab which was [TS]

01:24:00   something that triple-a told us 15 times [TS]

01:24:02   couldn't be done and off we go and i say [TS]

01:24:06   Travis where we going you got it you [TS]

01:24:08   know better than I do and he said oh [TS]

01:24:09   yeah i know these great guys that repair [TS]

01:24:11   rvs they're just right up the road here [TS]

01:24:12   takes into running backs us in to the [TS]

01:24:16   parking lot which he somehow had the key [TS]

01:24:18   to the fence for backs into this RV [TS]

01:24:22   repair shop that's just called like [TS]

01:24:24   Bob's RV repair the whole parking lot is [TS]

01:24:29   full of RVs backs up and bobs RV repair [TS]

01:24:32   has plugins and water and all that stuff [TS]

01:24:39   for rvs so I hop out i plug this giant [TS]

01:24:42   plug into the side of the RV and all of [TS]

01:24:44   a sudden we've got power we've got [TS]

01:24:45   furnace we've got a stove we've got hot [TS]

01:24:48   water for the shower and so we all sit [TS]

01:24:54   there we order pizza delivered to the [TS]

01:24:58   wrecking yard and we spend another [TS]

01:25:01   family family night [TS]

01:25:03   Oh in that's right three days before [TS]

01:25:05   christmas in the parking lot of this RV [TS]

01:25:08   repair place we walked up to the to the [TS]

01:25:12   arco station and got some twix bars and [TS]

01:25:14   and and then in the morning it was [TS]

01:25:21   sunday morning [TS]

01:25:22   no one from the RV places you know [TS]

01:25:25   they're not around at all and so like I [TS]

01:25:29   left a note on the windshield [TS]

01:25:31   it was like a bros call me up when you [TS]

01:25:34   come to work on Monday you know [TS]

01:25:36   obviously you see this RV that's sitting [TS]

01:25:39   here belongs to me and then we rented a [TS]

01:25:42   car we rented a Dodge truck actually had [TS]

01:25:45   a nice dodge truck [TS]

01:25:47   and we drove north but by that point the [TS]

01:25:49   storm had come in and the pass was not [TS]

01:25:52   closed but an hour-and-a-half wait [TS]

01:25:55   yeah because all the semi trucks were [TS]

01:25:58   putting the chains on and so we drove [TS]

01:26:00   through Klamath Falls fairly significant [TS]

01:26:04   detour but still faster but in the end [TS]

01:26:07   we did not get to seattle until 10pm so [TS]

01:26:10   I missed the engagement party I missed [TS]

01:26:12   the show [TS]

01:26:13   so in conclusion the RV still sits in [TS]

01:26:19   Redding California the problem was the [TS]

01:26:23   transmission [TS]

01:26:24   yeah this is not at this point you I'm [TS]

01:26:25   up-to-date at this point and you and [TS]

01:26:29   when we talked to them last monday you [TS]

01:26:32   were still cautiously pseudo optimistic [TS]

01:26:35   saying like well you know if it's just a [TS]

01:26:36   thing i'll get back in the truck and [TS]

01:26:37   drive back down there and pick it up [TS]

01:26:39   yep so i have that i have the dodge [TS]

01:26:41   pickup truck and I was like talking to [TS]

01:26:45   the guys on the phone on Monday morning [TS]

01:26:47   and I said you know fix the problem and [TS]

01:26:49   i'll come down and get it i still have [TS]

01:26:51   the rental truck i can bring it back and [TS]

01:26:55   they were like well we need you know we [TS]

01:26:56   need until noon to diagnose the problem [TS]

01:26:58   in at noon he said I think we've got to [TS]

01:27:01   figure it out i think it wasn't that big [TS]

01:27:02   of a deal i think we can have it fixed i [TS]

01:27:04   think you can pick it up but but we just [TS]

01:27:08   want to run a one more test so don't [TS]

01:27:11   leave yet [TS]

01:27:11   will you no will call you at 22 came [TS]

01:27:14   around i call them up and how's it going [TS]

01:27:16   over like well we figured this thing out [TS]

01:27:18   and that thing out but we just want to [TS]

01:27:20   take one more look at it let us just [TS]

01:27:21   look at one more time and then you know [TS]

01:27:23   then you can come get it and so I was I [TS]

01:27:27   was just on the threshold of saying you [TS]

01:27:29   know what I'm just going to start [TS]

01:27:30   driving right I'm gonna start driving [TS]

01:27:31   i'll get down there you know one o'clock [TS]

01:27:35   in the morning I'll Drive it back [TS]

01:27:36   tomorrow but there was just some [TS]

01:27:40   hesitation which was based on having [TS]

01:27:43   watched that thing burn and I was like [TS]

01:27:46   really you guys it's just it's just that [TS]

01:27:49   simple and so I waited at 5pm the guy [TS]

01:27:55   calls me up [TS]

01:27:59   but he says I'm sending you some [TS]

01:28:00   pictures I'm like that's not good and he [TS]

01:28:05   dropped the pan on the transmission and [TS]

01:28:07   the pan was full of metal chunks that [TS]

01:28:11   looked like it looked like someone had [TS]

01:28:15   taken a transmission and hit with a ball [TS]

01:28:17   peen hammer kinda like that kid back at [TS]

01:28:21   the napa auto parts store and Williams [TS]

01:28:23   and the guy was like yeah your [TS]

01:28:26   transmissions really broken and you need [TS]

01:28:31   a new transmission [TS]

01:28:32   yeah and I was like yeah I know what [TS]

01:28:34   that costs [TS]

01:28:36   he's like yeah we can probably get a new [TS]

01:28:39   transmission in here for four thousand [TS]

01:28:41   dollars [TS]

01:28:42   whoa and I was like yeah four thousand [TS]

01:28:45   dollars that's kind of what i thought he [TS]

01:28:48   was like well you know we gotta do this [TS]

01:28:49   to it in that to it and there's a list [TS]

01:28:51   that this and that and and once it's up [TS]

01:28:54   on the on the rack we might as well do [TS]

01:28:56   this and that and so yeah four thousand [TS]

01:28:58   dollars and so I'm in that predicament [TS]

01:29:03   right now which everyone who's listening [TS]

01:29:07   this program that is over the age of 25 [TS]

01:29:09   can identify with and maybe even some of [TS]

01:29:11   the people who are under the age of 25 [TS]

01:29:13   which is a decision must be made which [TS]

01:29:18   for which there is no good path right [TS]

01:29:23   fix the RV at the cost of four thousand [TS]

01:29:26   dollars at which point i have put you [TS]

01:29:32   know what what seems like a bargain the [TS]

01:29:34   eight thousand dollar RV has now become [TS]

01:29:36   a thirteen thousand dollar RV which [TS]

01:29:39   still has all the same problems that it [TS]

01:29:42   had oh the great thing about the RV [TS]

01:29:44   repair guys as they were like we fix [TS]

01:29:46   your fuel injection problem turns out [TS]

01:29:48   the guys in san francisco put a new [TS]

01:29:50   distributor on there and have and the [TS]

01:29:52   coil is fucked up and it was arcing [TS]

01:29:54   across the like this the spark was just [TS]

01:29:58   flying around the top of the motor there [TS]

01:30:00   that doesn't sound safe for efficient [TS]

01:30:02   now that's not very good and that that's [TS]

01:30:04   happened to me before a bad coil in a [TS]

01:30:06   distributor and you're just but it [TS]

01:30:07   didn't you know what happened to me [TS]

01:30:09   before the thing barely read [TS]

01:30:10   this was a situation where it was it was [TS]

01:30:12   motoring down the highway it was just [TS]

01:30:15   parking so they were like wow that was [TS]

01:30:18   an easy fix [TS]

01:30:19   I was like oh fuck and I said to them [TS]

01:30:21   listening all confidence can you tell me [TS]

01:30:24   did the fact that the coil was arcing [TS]

01:30:26   and the thing was running family did [TS]

01:30:28   that cause us to put undue stress on the [TS]

01:30:31   transmission is the transmission failure [TS]

01:30:33   a result of the bad shop work and there [TS]

01:30:40   was a long pause and the guy said I [TS]

01:30:43   understand what you're asking and it is [TS]

01:30:45   a good question and I can say pretty [TS]

01:30:50   confidently that know it the [TS]

01:30:54   transmission damage is has been ongoing [TS]

01:30:57   for a long time and there's you know [TS]

01:31:02   there'd be no way to prove that the [TS]

01:31:05   additional stress caused this damage and [TS]

01:31:12   and i doubt that it did [TS]

01:31:14   frankly not not enough that it is not [TS]

01:31:17   enough that it would be like it wasn't [TS]

01:31:19   it wasn't a slam-dunk he couldn't he was [TS]

01:31:22   that that's good though [TS]

01:31:23   that's good to hear yeah right i mean it [TS]

01:31:26   just it's like who you want to be mad at [TS]

01:31:27   and the end result is like I'm at [TS]

01:31:30   yourself again I'm not be honest how [TS]

01:31:32   much I mean the elephant the road how [TS]

01:31:33   much of that do you think was a [TS]

01:31:35   professional courtesy [TS]

01:31:37   that is impossible to know right like [TS]

01:31:39   he's gonna the guy that fixed the truck [TS]

01:31:42   is in the auto repair business in [TS]

01:31:44   California and the guys in the RV repair [TS]

01:31:47   shop are also in the auto repair [TS]

01:31:49   business in California and so who [TS]

01:31:51   fucking knows how America [TS]

01:31:55   oh there might be some American in there [TS]

01:31:58   but it's also not a thing that I can you [TS]

01:32:01   know I can't get in there and say I want [TS]

01:32:03   it towed to a third shop for a third [TS]

01:32:05   opinion that will be the same as this [TS]

01:32:07   opinion anyway so here we are [TS]

01:32:10   I have to either reconcile myself to the [TS]

01:32:15   fact that the RV and I had a very short [TS]

01:32:18   but very magical run [TS]

01:32:20   and that experiment cost me ten thousand [TS]

01:32:23   dollars because if i try to sell this RV [TS]

01:32:25   in the current condition to anyone it is [TS]

01:32:27   probably worth about 1,500 dollars God [TS]

01:32:30   or I feel pot committed to this [TS]

01:32:35   experiment and I somewhere find four [TS]

01:32:39   thousand dollars which I do not [TS]

01:32:40   presently have and say god damn yes the [TS]

01:32:45   RV and iíve already in this short time [TS]

01:32:48   bonded with one another to the degree [TS]

01:32:49   that I will never leave a man behind and [TS]

01:32:53   I'm going to put this new transmission [TS]

01:32:55   in there and then i will know for a fact [TS]

01:32:58   that it has a good transmission just [TS]

01:33:00   like I know for effective as a good [TS]

01:33:02   water pump and I know that it also has a [TS]

01:33:04   good alternator and a good battery [TS]

01:33:06   because i have replaced those things and [TS]

01:33:08   now good transmission you know it's a [TS]

01:33:11   big big part of of refurbishing here [TS]

01:33:14   vintage vehicle and has to be like some [TS]

01:33:16   part in your mind though you know you [TS]

01:33:20   want to avoid as they say that sunk cost [TS]

01:33:22   fallacy right of feeling like you're [TS]

01:33:24   throwing good money after bad but I mean [TS]

01:33:26   you know the obvious other thing is like [TS]

01:33:27   you know who knows what it is after that [TS]

01:33:29   right i mean it's not a few new so i can [TS]

01:33:32   share with our listeners what you told [TS]

01:33:34   me about what you learned I've learned [TS]

01:33:37   so much which which they want to give [TS]

01:33:39   the give a joke away but what you what [TS]

01:33:41   you were taught about what you can [TS]

01:33:42   expect in the first year of owning a GMC [TS]

01:33:44   RV all right right so all the old guys [TS]

01:33:47   that run these things i'll say look you [TS]

01:33:50   bought an eight thousand dollar RV [TS]

01:33:52   that's great that means that you only [TS]

01:33:56   have to put seventeen thousand dollars [TS]

01:33:58   more into it if you buy a [TS]

01:34:00   twenty-thousand-dollar RV you only have [TS]

01:34:02   to put five thousand dollars into it if [TS]

01:34:05   you buy a ten-thousand-dollar RV you [TS]

01:34:08   only have to put $15,000 in it the [TS]

01:34:10   reality is that you're going to pay [TS]

01:34:11   twenty-five thousand dollars for this [TS]

01:34:13   thing and every one of them cost $25,000 [TS]

01:34:17   eventually and what would a little when [TS]

01:34:19   they said that that just seemed colorful [TS]

01:34:21   or did that resonate no I understood [TS]

01:34:23   what they meant and I and I you know and [TS]

01:34:26   we and they nodded at me and i nodded [TS]

01:34:28   back but what I expected was that that [TS]

01:34:30   $25,000 was going to be [TS]

01:34:33   amateur eyes dover several years [TS]

01:34:36   yes seventeen thousand dollars a year [TS]

01:34:38   would be a bit much [TS]

01:34:40   yeah yeah yeah that is not i did not [TS]

01:34:42   that's not your budget when I was like I [TS]

01:34:45   got a thousand dollars lets you know [TS]

01:34:46   like I used to be like what i thought [TS]

01:34:49   was great with money i just saved [TS]

01:34:51   I saved money and that was something [TS]

01:34:53   that my peers a didn't do most people i [TS]

01:34:58   knew would get 50 bucks and they would [TS]

01:35:01   spend it and I was the guy that would [TS]

01:35:03   save it and so I I always had a cushion [TS]

01:35:07   and that was part of my apart i was a [TS]

01:35:10   thing I was proud of always having a [TS]

01:35:13   cushion but somehow in the last few [TS]

01:35:16   years i have just started to be like a [TS]

01:35:20   guy that gets some money and says let's [TS]

01:35:24   live a little and I got a thousand [TS]

01:35:27   dollars i bought this RV now I did not [TS]

01:35:29   have eight additional thousand dollars [TS]

01:35:32   to rain to monkey around me whenever you [TS]

01:35:38   like in terms of just don't get too deep [TS]

01:35:40   on the psychology but part of it would [TS]

01:35:41   be like if you went to that place and [TS]

01:35:43   let's let's let's so you Todd that the [TS]

01:35:45   guy got the sunglasses were that you [TS]

01:35:48   thought was gonna be this much said okay [TS]

01:35:49   look just give me a thousand you can [TS]

01:35:50   have it [TS]

01:35:51   well if that have 20,000 on it and you [TS]

01:35:53   bargain down to 16 you probably would [TS]

01:35:56   have done it right you know i was [TS]

01:35:58   prepared to pay 14 for it well um but [TS]

01:36:02   that was assuming i was gonna get a loan [TS]

01:36:04   for eight and when i discovered that i [TS]

01:36:08   could buy it for eight [TS]

01:36:09   well I had I had it so i just bought it [TS]

01:36:12   in cash right now I could conceivably [TS]

01:36:16   get alone there are a lot of ways that I [TS]

01:36:18   could that I could pursue this repair [TS]

01:36:23   and I and I know that there are probably [TS]

01:36:25   tons of listeners right now again I'm [TS]

01:36:28   going to break the fourth wall somewhat [TS]

01:36:30   and address them directly there are a [TS]

01:36:32   lot of you who are squirming in your [TS]

01:36:35   chair and saying why don't you just do a [TS]

01:36:38   Kickstarter I've been approached by two [TS]

01:36:39   different people to talk to you about [TS]

01:36:41   yeah or patreon or something and we'll [TS]

01:36:43   just we'll just crowds crowdfunded sure [TS]

01:36:46   and the answer is that I have a certain [TS]

01:36:50   amount of adult human pride which this [TS]

01:36:53   is my folly this thing is that my folly [TS]

01:36:57   and I know that you all want to [TS]

01:36:58   participate in it something somewhat and [TS]

01:37:00   at this point there are tens of [TS]

01:37:02   thousands of people shaking their head [TS]

01:37:03   side to side going I don't want to [TS]

01:37:05   participate in this but there are a lot [TS]

01:37:07   of you who are generous and thoughtful [TS]

01:37:09   and caring who want to be a part of this [TS]

01:37:12   folly or at least like save me spill my [TS]

01:37:16   fat from the fire but I'm a full grown [TS]

01:37:19   man and I have made this tingling [TS]

01:37:21   decision and I feel like I need to I [TS]

01:37:25   need to own it and not be one of these [TS]

01:37:29   modern people who turns to the Internet [TS]

01:37:30   every time that there's a problem says [TS]

01:37:32   help me obi-wan you're my only hope [TS]

01:37:35   help me distributed obi-wan and so it's [TS]

01:37:40   not that you know it's not that I don't [TS]

01:37:42   appreciate the offer it's not that I [TS]

01:37:44   don't understand how things work but I [TS]

01:37:46   just have I'm like I that feels like [TS]

01:37:50   going hand-in-hand to a group of people [TS]

01:37:52   that I that I don't I would not go ahead [TS]

01:37:55   and hand too [TS]

01:37:56   yeah I i still find still find that [TS]

01:38:00   difficult to do [TS]

01:38:01   yeah it is different for anything for [TS]

01:38:03   even for things where it's like there [TS]

01:38:04   are people i mean like with this program [TS]

01:38:06   there are people who said that they [TS]

01:38:08   would be happy to give us money for that [TS]

01:38:09   something I've certainly thought about [TS]

01:38:10   but there's something I mean I'm not [TS]

01:38:11   against it exactly you don't mean it's [TS]

01:38:14   just I'm not against it I'm not and I I [TS]

01:38:16   don't want to be critical of other [TS]

01:38:17   people's decisions because it's a [TS]

01:38:18   complicated economy and it's it's [TS]

01:38:20   certainly something I've thought about [TS]

01:38:21   but there's still some part of it that i [TS]

01:38:23   feel like i don't know i have resistance [TS]

01:38:26   yeah it's like making records right I it [TS]

01:38:29   used to be hard to make records and so [TS]

01:38:31   you would go and new script and save and [TS]

01:38:33   you would get a get together enough [TS]

01:38:35   money that you could rent some amount of [TS]

01:38:38   studio time and then you would have to [TS]

01:38:39   budget and figure it out and now it's [TS]

01:38:41   just like I want to make a record and [TS]

01:38:43   I'm put it on put it on the internet and [TS]

01:38:46   and you can sign up to fund me and [TS]

01:38:48   that's wonderful [TS]

01:38:49   I appreciate it but it just feels wrong [TS]

01:38:52   for me personally to do and maybe i will [TS]

01:38:55   evolve and come around and allow people [TS]

01:38:58   to [TS]

01:38:59   I'm fairly certain that I will at some [TS]

01:39:01   point maybe in the next year I mean it [TS]

01:39:02   seems dumb to in order to be a cynical [TS]

01:39:05   is to say leaving money on the table but [TS]

01:39:06   if it's also part of being a gracious [TS]

01:39:09   person is accepting gifts when they're [TS]

01:39:11   given and it was I'm not great at but [TS]

01:39:12   there's certain certain graciousness and [TS]

01:39:14   somebody saying look I'd like you to [TS]

01:39:15   have this is there's a lot of overhead [TS]

01:39:17   to accepting things from other people [TS]

01:39:19   that's true tea and you don't get the [TS]

01:39:21   same vote and this is nothing is any [TS]

01:39:23   person it's just it's just a I don't [TS]

01:39:26   know it's just a little bitch I've got [TS]

01:39:27   that you know once you do that there are [TS]

01:39:30   a lot of people you don't know very well [TS]

01:39:32   who end up being on your ad hoc Board of [TS]

01:39:35   Advisors for life [TS]

01:39:36   well I'm the thing is you need look no [TS]

01:39:39   further than our friend Josh and and you [TS]

01:39:43   know just to keep you know well anyway [TS]

01:39:45   it's it's complicated it's complicated [TS]

01:39:47   i'm not opposed to having a the RV be [TS]

01:39:52   owned in part in common by all of our [TS]

01:39:56   friends and fans who are like excitedly [TS]

01:39:59   and vicariously enjoying this insanity [TS]

01:40:03   which is why wouldn't you gonna say [TS]

01:40:05   journey but insanity works too insane [TS]

01:40:07   journey may be partly fueled by my new [TS]

01:40:09   bipolar medicine and maybe just that [TS]

01:40:12   this is how I've always lived my life [TS]

01:40:13   and and now I'm living it that way again [TS]

01:40:17   consistent with all of the where [TS]

01:40:20   decisions I've made and really eight [TS]

01:40:22   thousand dollars you know in nineteen in [TS]

01:40:25   1991 dollars i was buying old decrepit [TS]

01:40:30   cars then and driving them until they [TS]

01:40:32   broke i just push them into a lake when [TS]

01:40:34   i was done and I didn't have a child [TS]

01:40:38   that I was sitting on the side of the [TS]

01:40:40   road going please let this not be the [TS]

01:40:42   day right that I get the world's worst [TS]

01:40:44   parent award but anyway so I'm conscious [TS]

01:40:48   of that and the here and here's the [TS]

01:40:50   wonderful thing i got an email from a [TS]

01:40:51   friend who is a concert promoter and he [TS]

01:40:54   said listen I've been following your [TS]

01:40:57   saga [TS]

01:40:58   what if I booked a tour in California of [TS]

01:41:02   you and some other musicians and we went [TS]

01:41:05   and played all of the weird rich people [TS]

01:41:08   towns like mill valley and sausalito and [TS]

01:41:12   montecito all the places where nobody [TS]

01:41:15   ever plays but people have more money [TS]

01:41:17   than God and instead of a transportation [TS]

01:41:22   budget where I rented a sprinter van to [TS]

01:41:27   carry you guys [TS]

01:41:28   what if we just fix the RV and that was [TS]

01:41:32   the transportation budget for the tour [TS]

01:41:35   that's honest a and I was like now that [TS]

01:41:37   feels honest that feels like exactly the [TS]

01:41:41   kind of deal that would you know where I [TS]

01:41:48   wouldn't wear I would have a tremendous [TS]

01:41:51   gratitude to my friends but I would also [TS]

01:41:54   feel like we had we had done a good [TS]

01:41:57   trade a fair trade and so that [TS]

01:42:01   possibility exists the problem is that [TS]

01:42:04   the guy in reading where the RV sits [TS]

01:42:07   right now is understandably impatient [TS]

01:42:11   for me to make it to someone asked [TS]

01:42:13   what's your sense of the time to make a [TS]

01:42:15   decision here [TS]

01:42:15   well he was like so you know send us the [TS]

01:42:19   deposit will get putting that thing in [TS]

01:42:20   right tomorrow or he'll start charging [TS]

01:42:22   what 200 bucks the datastore it [TS]

01:42:24   well this is what I don't know so I so I [TS]

01:42:25   call out so i called him on the phone I [TS]

01:42:27   talked to him on the phone [TS]

01:42:28   person-to-person station to station and [TS]

01:42:32   i said i am not currently in a position [TS]

01:42:36   to have you go right to work on this [TS]

01:42:40   thing and he got very quiet and just be [TS]

01:42:43   clear it's at least four thousand [TS]

01:42:45   dollars [TS]

01:42:45   yeah i'm going to eat the thing is he's [TS]

01:42:47   it is not like it's going to turn out to [TS]

01:42:49   be $1,500 four thousand dollars is what [TS]

01:42:52   he knows it's going to cost if [TS]

01:42:54   everything goes ok yeah and he said i [TS]

01:42:56   have i have included in this budget on [TS]

01:43:00   an amount that that acknowledges the [TS]

01:43:03   possibility of cost overruns and so it [TS]

01:43:07   could be slightly less than this [TS]

01:43:10   I just didn't want to you know I didn't [TS]

01:43:13   want to put an amount in here that it [TS]

01:43:14   ended up like not being anywhere close [TS]

01:43:19   and I was like I'm grateful to you for [TS]

01:43:21   that [TS]

01:43:22   but having said like I I'm not ready [TS]

01:43:28   exactly to pull the trigger on this he [TS]

01:43:30   was like well what are we talking about [TS]

01:43:33   and so he and I had a very slow voiced [TS]

01:43:37   negotiation where I said what if we [TS]

01:43:43   started to work on it in February and he [TS]

01:43:50   was like I could keep it on the lot till [TS]

01:43:58   the first week of january and we went [TS]

01:44:03   back and forth like this with a little [TS]

01:44:04   the little badminton birdie of how long [TS]

01:44:09   can I keep it at your place besides [TS]

01:44:11   sucking air [TS]

01:44:13   I don't not quite sure [TS]

01:44:17   BRR and so what we settled on was the [TS]

01:44:20   last week of january i would have a I [TS]

01:44:27   would have a plan let's look at december [TS]

01:44:28   until the last week of january so he has [TS]

01:44:32   little keep it there till January he has [TS]

01:44:34   allowed it [TS]

01:44:35   I can get to be on his property until [TS]

01:44:38   January that's really cool [TS]

01:44:41   well it's very cool and there and he's [TS]

01:44:42   like listen I'd I know where your end [TS]

01:44:44   and I actually pulled the Christmas card [TS]

01:44:46   I was like it's it's two days before [TS]

01:44:49   Christmas and he was like Christmas cup [TS]

01:44:52   he was like i know i know it is and i [TS]

01:44:54   was like and i and i kinda just you know [TS]

01:44:57   I just sort of said in that voice that [TS]

01:45:01   communicated that I was just a regular [TS]

01:45:02   guy who was just trying to put christmas [TS]

01:45:05   trees under his spirit of Christmas on [TS]

01:45:07   the table I was just trying to put [TS]

01:45:09   christmas trees on the table and and he [TS]

01:45:13   was like you know we had a regular guy [TS]

01:45:15   exchange where he was like I know man i [TS]

01:45:18   feel you and I was like I know right [TS]

01:45:20   he was like yep two days before [TS]

01:45:22   christmas and i right [TS]

01:45:23   yep [TS]

01:45:25   and so that's where we're at that is [TS]

01:45:28   where we are at 0 and so I have a month [TS]

01:45:32   more or less to both decide and having [TS]

01:45:36   decided conjure up the cash to fix it or [TS]

01:45:43   conjure up the contract the the the [TS]

01:45:48   balls to get a get out of it [TS]

01:45:52   just fold yeah and I just don't I still [TS]

01:45:58   so what so what my mom advise me it was [TS]

01:46:01   stopped thinking about it you have some [TS]

01:46:03   time now just stop tormenting yourself [TS]

01:46:07   every minute of your life with with [TS]

01:46:13   these bad thoughts and let's just look [TS]

01:46:15   for her [TS]

01:46:16   yeah and she was like it literally is [TS]

01:46:18   the day before Christmas don't you know [TS]

01:46:24   don't ruin yourself doing and thinking [TS]

01:46:27   about a thing that you can't do anything [TS]

01:46:28   about but now i'm on the other side of [TS]

01:46:30   Christmas [TS]

01:46:31   yeah we're in the week between first and [TS]

01:46:35   I you know I've got to come up with a [TS]

01:46:38   solution and whatever this whatever this [TS]

01:46:40   offer of a tour is it's not going to be [TS]

01:46:45   until spring or summer and and I don't [TS]

01:46:50   know you know I don't know what his [TS]

01:46:52   ability is to advance the transportation [TS]

01:46:55   budget or whether i would that would [TS]

01:46:57   trend into uncomfortable territory for [TS]

01:47:00   me [TS]

01:47:00   I mean I don't know I'm you and I both [TS]

01:47:02   are somewhat handicapped by our [TS]

01:47:05   inability to accept generosity [TS]

01:47:09   yeah sometimes but it's also like this [TS]

01:47:12   is this is my brains not your brain but [TS]

01:47:13   my brain is you know because I do live [TS]

01:47:16   so much inside my own- head that I can [TS]

01:47:19   come up with a lot of things that won't [TS]

01:47:20   go well and that makes me procrastinate [TS]

01:47:22   my arm that's just how I am about all [TS]

01:47:25   kinds of things but with something like [TS]

01:47:26   this you know there's just all kinds of [TS]

01:47:29   on the one hand there there is this is [TS]

01:47:31   not just you there's all this we don't [TS]

01:47:33   like feeling it's not even the simplest [TS]

01:47:35   thing feeling like a failure but it [TS]

01:47:36   doesn't feel good to walk away from [TS]

01:47:38   something [TS]

01:47:38   right thats its own kind of easy way out [TS]

01:47:40   and you know it's even setting aside the [TS]

01:47:43   logic and the money and all those kinds [TS]

01:47:44   of things there's something that makes [TS]

01:47:46   you feel makes you feel like less of a [TS]

01:47:50   successful person if your answers to [TS]

01:47:52   just quit and you want to try and find [TS]

01:47:54   some clever way to either keep it going [TS]

01:47:56   or to make it better or you know again [TS]

01:47:58   that the two things super interesting [TS]

01:48:00   but I mean yeah you're not gonna get [TS]

01:48:01   that money for four months and then you [TS]

01:48:04   got to think about like what are the [TS]

01:48:05   other things you could get I mean you [TS]

01:48:07   can get four thousand dollars that's [TS]

01:48:08   that's not that hard in itself getting [TS]

01:48:11   four thousand dollars is not an [TS]

01:48:12   impossible thing but then what does it [TS]

01:48:14   take to get that 4,000 what else do you [TS]

01:48:16   are for go to get that or what else do [TS]

01:48:19   you like [TS]

01:48:19   agreed to do right to to get that and so [TS]

01:48:22   that's where it gets complicated further [TS]

01:48:24   complicated in my head by like okay if [TS]

01:48:26   you do get that you spend let's say four [TS]

01:48:29   thousand dollars and as soon as you [TS]

01:48:31   drive it off the lot something else [TS]

01:48:32   happens that last part where in that's [TS]

01:48:35   the self-defeating in my head of like [TS]

01:48:36   you know you know what if what if this [TS]

01:48:38   is what this is just the beginning and [TS]

01:48:40   now you have four thousand dollars [TS]

01:48:41   yeah it's almost certainly just the [TS]

01:48:43   beginning the question is like do you [TS]

01:48:45   how yeah how how far you how far do you [TS]

01:48:51   roll with that before you say like this [TS]

01:48:53   this is not the right time [TS]

01:48:54   yeah right yeah right yeah right like [TS]

01:48:57   that this is not the right time in my [TS]

01:48:58   life to have embraced this weird [TS]

01:49:03   lifestyle choice of being like a RV [TS]

01:49:07   owner and I mean and you know not to [TS]

01:49:09   piss in the punch bowl but it's further [TS]

01:49:11   to the point of why you may not want to [TS]

01:49:13   believe there is something nice and [TS]

01:49:15   something sort of it's a wonderful life [TS]

01:49:16   about you know Harry Bailey walking in [TS]

01:49:19   with the basket full of money and saying [TS]

01:49:21   hey everything solved Merry Christmas [TS]

01:49:23   every time a bell rings there's that [TS]

01:49:25   feeling but like what if everybody on [TS]

01:49:28   the internet gets to celebrate with you [TS]

01:49:29   that your goal was met yay [TS]

01:49:31   I've been patreon and then something [TS]

01:49:33   else happens when they are really on the [TS]

01:49:35   hook huh [TS]

01:49:36   you have investors already took a you [TS]

01:49:38   took around and like now you know what I [TS]

01:49:41   mean it's like then it would it would [TS]

01:49:42   feel like oh you know what I want to [TS]

01:49:45   spend that money if he's not actually [TS]

01:49:46   gonna do this and it's like see it's [TS]

01:49:48   like now you just end up going people in [TS]

01:49:50   a different way [TS]

01:49:50   I don't know that's my head anyway yeah [TS]

01:49:53   and-and-and mind to a I just don't [TS]

01:49:59   yeah right i mean i'm i'm almost back to [TS]

01:50:01   like let's not think about it for [TS]

01:50:03   another week or so and just hope that I [TS]

01:50:06   wish I could do that [TS]

01:50:08   it's such a good idea i wish i could [TS]

01:50:10   just say there's not that much I can do [TS]

01:50:11   about this thing right now and I don't [TS]

01:50:14   need to make a decision about it yet so [TS]

01:50:15   I just don't think about it i wish i [TS]

01:50:17   wish i had a way to do that I wish I [TS]

01:50:19   wish I had that kind of executive [TS]

01:50:20   control over what my mind decided to [TS]

01:50:22   focus on [TS]

01:50:23   yeah i'm i'm i'm learning it and and it [TS]

01:50:29   is better than like laying in bed in the [TS]

01:50:34   middle of the night going [TS]

01:50:37   I am an awful person and this is an [TS]

01:50:39   awful circumstance [TS]

01:50:42   get out of my head yeah right like like [TS]

01:50:44   what what what what good is that gonna [TS]

01:50:47   do [TS]

01:50:48   so you're just just to clarify for the [TS]

01:50:53   listeners and people have been very you [TS]

01:50:55   know kind and generous and I've you know [TS]

01:50:57   been emailed like SI by a couple people [TS]

01:50:58   one person like you have been contacted [TS]

01:51:00   by also and I just said you know if [TS]

01:51:04   there's this this sounds Kurt but when [TS]

01:51:07   people contact me in order to contact [TS]

01:51:09   someone else which is something happens [TS]

01:51:10   more than one might imagine i'm finally [TS]

01:51:12   contacted by sorry to contact someone [TS]

01:51:13   else and I frequently as frequently as i [TS]

01:51:16   get that right uh request from somebody [TS]

01:51:18   i will often just say the same thing [TS]

01:51:20   which is this what did they say when you [TS]

01:51:23   ask them because that's probably the [TS]

01:51:27   same answer [TS]

01:51:27   like if the answer was they didn't [TS]

01:51:29   respond then I'm not comfortable being [TS]

01:51:31   the person to go make my friend respond [TS]

01:51:32   to somebody else and if they said no [TS]

01:51:35   then I really really really don't feel [TS]

01:51:36   like I should do that but just for our [TS]

01:51:39   listeners then in that case we'll break [TS]

01:51:40   down the first wall here [TS]

01:51:41   so you're saying least for now not [TS]

01:51:45   interested in doing a a crowdfunded RV [TS]

01:51:49   repair system [TS]

01:51:53   I you know I think I would I think you [TS]

01:51:56   and I have talked about like doing some [TS]

01:51:58   kind of crowd funding or patriotic thing [TS]

01:52:00   for our program and i think i would be [TS]

01:52:03   more interested in that at in you and in [TS]

01:52:07   the two of us continuing to argue about [TS]

01:52:09   it because we are giving people [TS]

01:52:12   something whereas what i am what i would [TS]

01:52:18   be the service I would be providing our [TS]

01:52:20   listeners and and generous donors by [TS]

01:52:23   continuing to live in this RV and drive [TS]

01:52:26   it around the country like a crazy [TS]

01:52:28   person is less tangible to me and I know [TS]

01:52:31   there are people who would make an [TS]

01:52:32   argument like you the enjoyment i get [TS]

01:52:35   out of watching you Instagram yourself [TS]

01:52:38   driving this RV around is worth some [TS]

01:52:42   small donation to the cause like I [TS]

01:52:46   understand that I understand it but it [TS]

01:52:50   but it feels to me like a little bit i [TS]

01:52:54   don't know less honest or less not [TS]

01:52:56   honest [TS]

01:52:57   no it'sit's that there's not a good word [TS]

01:52:59   for it it feels it doesn't feel wrong [TS]

01:53:01   but it doesn't feel right [TS]

01:53:03   yeah if you're not it's weird because I [TS]

01:53:05   mean we're all expect to have these [TS]

01:53:06   really polarized very strong opinions [TS]

01:53:09   about things and this is one of those [TS]

01:53:10   topics where I don't have it sits an [TS]

01:53:13   impossibly weak position or feeling that [TS]

01:53:15   i have about it which is just that [TS]

01:53:17   yeah I could I could see that but then I [TS]

01:53:19   also see like all these horror stories [TS]

01:53:21   on Kickstarter were like oh my gosh [TS]

01:53:23   everything most like the most fun thing [TS]

01:53:25   of all time [TS]

01:53:26   apparently is this cooler that like you [TS]

01:53:28   know has a blender on it and then they [TS]

01:53:29   didn't deliver to their people before [TS]

01:53:31   they started selling on Amazon not [TS]

01:53:32   everybody hates them in like glue sticks [TS]

01:53:34   there's so many ways in which that [TS]

01:53:35   exposes you you know this really goes [TS]

01:53:38   back to probably one of our very first [TS]

01:53:39   public conversations which is when i [TS]

01:53:41   interview you for my video show and I [TS]

01:53:43   made that crack about how like if you go [TS]

01:53:44   to a software review site and if it's [TS]

01:53:46   free [TS]

01:53:47   you'll find these mostly like kind of [TS]

01:53:49   pretty positive reviews if something [TS]

01:53:50   changes and nickel for something [TS]

01:53:51   everything changes everything changes [TS]

01:53:53   yes as soon as money changes hands the [TS]

01:53:55   nature of the relationship really [TS]

01:53:57   changes and it's I think it's one reason [TS]

01:53:59   a lot of us are happy to like hide [TS]

01:54:01   behind more of a business model that [TS]

01:54:03   doesn't you know it [TS]

01:54:04   ocean that way so i'm not i'm not [TS]

01:54:06   against it but if you know I guess we [TS]

01:54:08   can go talk some more smart friends and [TS]

01:54:09   find out what would be involved in doing [TS]

01:54:11   that but i'd like to see you get a fix [TS]

01:54:12   but also don't want you to like be [TS]

01:54:13   investing in this like I mean none of my [TS]

01:54:16   fucking business but like I don't also [TS]

01:54:18   don't want you to have to like be [TS]

01:54:19   funding this albatross for the rest of [TS]

01:54:20   your you know near future [TS]

01:54:22   well and here's the key thing right and [TS]

01:54:24   i think part of what part of why i went [TS]

01:54:27   from being a saver a meticulous saver [TS]

01:54:30   and a a a a saver who saved above all [TS]

01:54:35   like the highest moral good to me has [TS]

01:54:38   always been saving money and the and the [TS]

01:54:43   benefit of money in the bank outweighed [TS]

01:54:45   the benefit of almost any material good [TS]

01:54:47   and that became a tyranny over myself [TS]

01:54:52   and as much as I like as much as I tisk [TS]

01:54:58   tisk and shook my head and my friends [TS]

01:55:01   who were buying motorcycles and guitars [TS]

01:55:03   and and trips and you know and just [TS]

01:55:06   blowing their money and then sitting [TS]

01:55:08   around complaining about how poor they [TS]

01:55:10   were I like had this virtue which was [TS]

01:55:13   then I saved and i freed myself from [TS]

01:55:17   that tyranny several years ago by [TS]

01:55:20   finally acknowledging what I always knew [TS]

01:55:22   which is that money is fake money is [TS]

01:55:25   fake and it doesn't actually have like [TS]

01:55:28   collecting it has no virtue spending it [TS]

01:55:31   has no virtue it is of its false and [TS]

01:55:35   what does it represent you know what is [TS]

01:55:38   the thing that you want and what does [TS]

01:55:40   that mean [TS]

01:55:41   and I realized that I wanted leisure or [TS]

01:55:44   I thought I did and I saved money in [TS]

01:55:47   order to ensure that i had that security [TS]

01:55:52   of being able to just take the day off [TS]

01:55:54   and take the week off that was what that [TS]

01:56:01   was my highest good and other people [TS]

01:56:04   wanted material things and that was the [TS]

01:56:08   and money was just a out a way of of [TS]

01:56:12   accomplishing those things but that the [TS]

01:56:14   money itself is just an it's just [TS]

01:56:16   imaginary [TS]

01:56:17   and so I started to allow myself to [TS]

01:56:20   spend money because I was like you know [TS]

01:56:21   what it comes it goes like fuck it don't [TS]

01:56:25   sit up don't Scrooge McDuck it or small [TS]

01:56:28   get where youre don't lock your goal [TS]

01:56:32   don't small your gold and you're just in [TS]

01:56:34   there with one eyelid open while the [TS]

01:56:36   fucking hobbits sneak in and get your I [TS]

01:56:40   forget the end of that book i read in a [TS]

01:56:42   long time what do they do they get in [TS]

01:56:43   there and they get the the the the the [TS]

01:56:47   dwarves get there [TS]

01:56:48   valhalla back i don't remember well [TS]

01:56:51   small doesn't win that's the that's the [TS]

01:56:54   smokes in an awkward position because [TS]

01:56:56   the more gold in your horde the more you [TS]

01:56:58   have to protect the more you have to [TS]

01:57:00   live and no matter how how good a dragon [TS]

01:57:03   you are that's still no way to spend a [TS]

01:57:05   lifetime [TS]

01:57:06   yeah right so you can sit and say four [TS]

01:57:08   thousand dollars for this transmission [TS]

01:57:10   is half the price I paid for the whole [TS]

01:57:11   RV it's good money after bad it's paul [TS]

01:57:14   this blah blah blah now I've paid [TS]

01:57:17   fourteen thousand dollars for this thing [TS]

01:57:18   that's only worth 14 thousand dollars [TS]

01:57:20   and herpa derpa derp but ultimately like [TS]

01:57:24   all of that is just knowing the price of [TS]

01:57:27   everything in the value of nothing and [TS]

01:57:29   money is is false enough that i need to [TS]

01:57:36   constantly remind myself to spend it [TS]

01:57:38   because fuck it and also you'll make [TS]

01:57:45   more and also leisure is not a very good [TS]

01:57:50   goal [TS]

01:57:51   turns out for me because I spent several [TS]

01:57:53   years with enough money to allow myself [TS]

01:57:57   to take the month off and that did not [TS]

01:58:01   produce good mental health and it didn't [TS]

01:58:04   produce it didn't produce happiness [TS]

01:58:06   ultimately yeah [TS]

01:58:08   also any moneys money's a little bit [TS]

01:58:10   like status or what you could call power [TS]

01:58:13   but we all call status money's a little [TS]

01:58:14   bit like status which is where in some [TS]

01:58:16   ways the more you get a bit [TS]

01:58:18   the more you realize what bullshit is [TS]

01:58:19   now but the less you have it the more [TS]

01:58:21   incredibly real and important it seems [TS]

01:58:23   so you know it all seems like bullshit [TS]

01:58:25   until you don't have it and then it [TS]

01:58:26   seems and this is this is why I mean [TS]

01:58:28   what it whereas every conspiracy theory [TS]

01:58:30   come from [TS]

01:58:30   in some ways like this conspiracy [TS]

01:58:32   theories come from trying to explain why [TS]

01:58:35   the world is the way it is based on what [TS]

01:58:37   you know what you think and how you [TS]

01:58:38   think life should be and whether or not [TS]

01:58:40   that has anything to do with reality it [TS]

01:58:42   has everything to do with all the facts [TS]

01:58:44   that are not in evidence and especially [TS]

01:58:46   all the status you don't have well [TS]

01:58:48   obviously something must be going on [TS]

01:58:49   when all those which important people [TS]

01:58:51   have meetings in the a teddy bear picnic [TS]

01:58:53   they must be deciding that must be the [TS]

01:58:55   Jews deciding what movies are going to [TS]

01:58:57   come out and with interest rates will be [TS]

01:58:58   like that's the only plausible [TS]

01:58:59   explanation will know it's actually not [TS]

01:59:01   but that's if you don't have access to [TS]

01:59:03   that that's what it seems like it's it's [TS]

01:59:05   what makes us less empathetic toward [TS]

01:59:07   other people is this constant leveling [TS]

01:59:09   of how much status and many other people [TS]

01:59:11   have and like what they deserve and how [TS]

01:59:13   much of their own feelings they should [TS]

01:59:14   be entitled to right i mean sorry that's [TS]

01:59:17   a little rambling but you know like i [TS]

01:59:18   said the dignity police are always [TS]

01:59:20   digging police are always out there [TS]

01:59:22   looking at other people and trying to [TS]

01:59:23   figure out what they've heard like [TS]

01:59:25   Ernest in like what they deserve [TS]

01:59:27   right i own right and I can't i think [TS]

01:59:29   very clearly this RV which catches on [TS]

01:59:33   fire and leeks and has a upholstery the [TS]

01:59:37   color of pepto bismal both my friends [TS]

01:59:40   and my enemies seem to agree that it's [TS]

01:59:43   what I deserve [TS]

01:59:46   oh my god this just this is went from [TS]

01:59:50   being about car repaired mythology [TS]