Ep. 201: "Cowboy Hat Boss"
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hello hi John
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hi Merlin has gone good yeah i was just
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watching the music video for in excesses
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mediate who which one the MTV Music
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Video Award for something this best
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video back in the old times i don't know
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if you remember mediate the song but
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it's the one where where they just say
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words that rhyme with mediate how / like
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all along it doesn't have a course and
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the video is the hem standing in some
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kind of industrial area doing the Bob
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Dylan don't look back and say it sounds
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like a subterranean we didn't start the
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fire textual that's exactly right and he
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just said but they actually do they
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actually cop the like word on a piece of
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paper flip thing that's fresh and that
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room and they want an award and I
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remember and this is you know this is
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the era of course where they were also
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wearing like jeans to cheat
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strategically rip knees her and little
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round glasses and and the sixties we're
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gonna uh-huh
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it was so awful and you know this is
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what passed for this was what passed for
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like like culture when we were we were
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just we were at the dawn of our lives
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were sitting there just like what's
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gonna happen to us what amazing things
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going to happen to us
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this was the best part of it can I i
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mean i don't watch the video while
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recording kind i'm going to guess kind
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of get some words
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okay go ahead Watergate no I don't think
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so gr8 m8 she's great no let me do you
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want me to read them to you sure
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hallucinate
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k segregate because they make this a
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great gate spelled desegregate who
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mediates right that's title song mediate
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alleviate mhm and here's that I was what
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was I remember the first time I heard
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the song i was listening I was like
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alright alright segregating behind that
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mediate and then the fifth thing it says
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the fifth lyric is try not eight try not
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to hate try not to try not to hate that
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doesn't doesn't really rhyme with
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mediate given up kind of early on that
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1i think I mean it's like try not to
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hate but not try not to hate cannot hate
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love your mate
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don't suffocate on your own hate all
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right we've already used hate in try not
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to hate
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don't suffocate on your own hey time for
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this for this to work it has to be a
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like okay we'll take x-rays I need to
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rhyme with me out like you gotta build a
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little story out of that
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yeah yeah and later I don't want to be
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repeating a lot of stuff in the first
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act like that like its storytelling
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designate your love as fate what what
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the fuck does that mean we'll see that's
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the Australian shit right there natured
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love is faid Richard Nixon Watergate
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he's great on a plane oneworld state now
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it's getting a little baby is getting
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real now that as human freight the
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number eight
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okay it goes downhill from there i was i
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was hoping what the reason i got started
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listening to the song as I was hoping
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that it said innovate sure because come
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on i'm looking for every opportunity I
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can to get in on this innovation sphere
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yeah and I wanted to say innovate so
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that i could repurpose the song as a
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kind of as a kind of pain to innovation
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oh this is not good appreciate fabricate
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emulate the truth dilate yeah like
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pretty Kate has sex ornate what now
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devastate appreciate depreciate
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fabricate emulate the truth dilate yeah
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everybody starts to repeat because these
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Peaks it feels like he's he said it all
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libera to liberate liberate liberate to
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annihilate atomic fate
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no but it's a little bit gets a little
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bit of the portion measure current is
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today's headlines
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yeah but but but but no innovate in all
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it is easy designate your love John
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what's the message of the song is it is
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it is it one of those like our right now
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Van Halen time songs where it's just it
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feels more like a right here right now
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is it supposed to be like shit is real
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this is happening
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yeah that's right that's why I think
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that's exactly right it's it-it-it its
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political without actually saying
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anything about what should be different
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let alone what already is there
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yeah it touches on some things
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desegregation it touches on one one
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world government which i'm not sure they
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fully understood what they were saying
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gravitate the earth sound wait its
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there's a lot of pro sex talk and
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radiate we all rotate and I don't know
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whether that was 1998 he meant or at 98
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miles per second overhead 98 degrees on
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that this got a second pass John I think
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this is this is a metric pressure
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yeah well guilt debate the edge serrate
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a better rate the youth irate see it's
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got irate youth in there so it did it
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but i think it was a time when you could
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just see it a couple years ago I don't
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know if you remember jonathan coulton
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and I made a a christmas album idea we
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have your argument and oh you're one of
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the few ornaments that didn't break in
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shipping about I without the box without
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puts things in it that nice huh
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but a we needed a Hanukkah song alright
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sure and so is this is this is that did
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the one truly great Hanukkah song
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yeah the one truly great Hanukkah song
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other than a dreidel dreidel dreidel is
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which is a Hanukkah song right now I
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know I know
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it's a I we wrote wikipedia Hanukkah
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which was me reading the wikipedia entry
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for hanukkah over a funky Jam and I
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thought in the spirit of INXS is mediate
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this was going to be a this could be a
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smash hit
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uh-huh and and like people accuse me of
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phoned it in on that song that's the
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yeah but also i spent a lot of time
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learning how to pronounce those biblical
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era it's not like in a holdup in browser
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in the studio and i started reading you
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have to do some tell music scholarship i
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did i had to move it and and so I'm a
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little mad actually the kind you know
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that in excess could get I mean they
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have a they have a million-and-a-half
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use of this of this song and that look
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it doesn't even look like I'm just
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looking at the thumbnail that it's in
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he's on the wrong side of the screen it
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doesn't he doesn't look like
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subterranean homesick blues external
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don't pay that and and they walk out
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there did look at various denim jean and
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various like you know you remember the
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band world party now heís got Carla
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Wallin timer glasses got Carl wall and
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Rollins Ballinger falling on hammer
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while your hammer said from tomorrow I
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don't want to say on this ship of fools
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is great i love the waterboys John are
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using the waterboys that's the same guy
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from the waterboys not the same time
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Mike Scott the main guy fucks Comrade
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Stalin said they become too westernized
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that that's Mike Scott yeah you that the
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other guy from the waterboys is the guy
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from world party uh-huh
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I had no idea that the excess classes
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whoa yeah my mom wanted more LOL kdj
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roll party just came out of nowhere I
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just thought they were just like you
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know like world water boys were very
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important they had important music MMA
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their music was very important
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it's also many seeds yeah I think hold
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the moon is one of the great songs to
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wonderful song i saw the crash
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sent you know there's a lot of jingle
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jangle in that dont le zie called kala
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Wallin my mother is iucn bang on the
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keyboard that video i Goti please bang
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on the keyboard knows huh you see the o
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the moon now you at the image i sent you
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well then let me see your informed
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consent on skype but you have to login
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I don't see that may present you're not
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suggesting his papers i'm looking
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through my papers I don't see any images
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you sent me a sexy on the text
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Oh texting stop sending things in skype
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because it wants you to login even
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though you're already using skype so i
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stopped sending things to you and Skye
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does this here
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yeah WTF begin looking out on the big
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screen I'm oh my goodness I'm so proud
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of my daughter for this struggle with a
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big award my daughter did every stitch
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of this herself
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yeah except for one important part that
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I wanted cuteness the one pic did did
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she didn't also by the black electrical
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tape or whatever your shoulders my
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gorilla tape I let her use son now but
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this is ok so she killed it with this on
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my god facts about arrow pointing to
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Amelia Earhart when she was when she was
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a teen she cut her hair inch by inch so
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her mom didn't notice so much i was
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looking at is a large poster board up
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for her Amelia Earhart you have to do a
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project on somebody that's important to
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you and so she didn't Amelia Earhart and
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so I helped her and I'll help you find
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some photos and stuff like that but I
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also i like her handwriting very much
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but did you do appreciate their just a
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slightly right of Center which but she
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taped on the page is it a I've no I'm
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not just the first first pitch
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Amelia Arizona wikipedia oh yeah i know
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i did see that that was right out of my
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pocket I is my report
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yeah I mean she did some original
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scholarship we watch documentary she
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drew clouds she true what's the name of
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that island that are the island should
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brought us a call the name of the
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rikki-tikki-tavi rikki-tikki-tavi the
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island hawaii that looks like a steak
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that's a very small island as a hard
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target to hit stick island hard target
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but so so I see this I walk in
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and I'm like oh my god you did
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everything on this except the letters
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mommy helped with the letters and she's
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like now she did the letters to the
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prettiest used to one is an l think
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they're great
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is this a nice report it's nice but what
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are you gonna do about that the fact
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that that the the page is just a copy
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from well now if you go and read you
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know Amelia are here so this is her
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report part she always liked to quote
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unquote boy stuff when she was a kid she
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and the neighborhood kids made a roller
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coaster and center and she would do I
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wish I I don't even I said don't correct
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the spelling this is perfect put this on
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I love it but I do it's funny because I
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can 88 i always forget about 21 printing
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and I do print I forget two things I
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forget about comments and forget about
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footnotes so I go to print a recipe and
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I think oh no problem I can see this is
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like what its gonna be 34 pages i forget
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about the comments so also it just
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starts printing and print dress case
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those things you should know about me i
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didn't need to print but the print now I
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print sign and write that Bob I sell
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anything that I don't sprinkle like I
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don't staple i don't i knows i can't
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figure it out tonight so i just wanna
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hang with your daughter huh
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I we want yeah you know it's funny you
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know we watched like literally yesterday
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i'll tell you what we watch later today
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we watch sad sweet three we will know we
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watched I heard this better than it
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seems we watch sad sweetheart of the
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rodeo featuring a young John Roderick
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mando you did not we see my pivot there
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yeah I don't have a very very fun video
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it's a fun video I feel like if you
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watch the set sweetheart of the rodeo
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video you will feel if you're following
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you're going to notice right in the sort
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there's a you know and this music video
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costs are you ready $500,000 wow it
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looks expect another thing that sucks
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about the copy that's up is really kind
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of crappy quality i remember i watch
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that from the first time I was aware of
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you and aware of harvey danger and your
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relationship now let's talk i love that
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i thought was a great video that's a lot
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of money
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it's a lot of money with a friend in
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revocable but i'm sure it was at the
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very tail end of a time when you would
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spend 500 thousand dollars on the a
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music video
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wow you hire her a Hollywood actress to
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be in it
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hollywood actress in it and you know and
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the guy that was making the video right
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it was that like that was his year he
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was that was getting was getting paid
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nobody was getting paid
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yeah i think i paid em but right at the
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center of the film the narrative of
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spoiler alert is a woman whose
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daydreaming about having a bit different
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better more interesting like the one she
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has inches fantasizing they slowly
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introduce these elements that are little
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magically real were like more and more
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like she starts hallucinating things
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that about Cowboys that are taking place
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in her office space we actually entered
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everything starting to get rodeoed right
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rodeo it out and so Ione Skye current
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wife of benleah the Australian guitar
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player currently am and and daughter i
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don't know if you knew this Donovan to
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your friends with on Facebook
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that's right one I'm and friends with
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Ben and Ione although i haven't seen her
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in a long time not since she tied me up
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in this music video yeah but halfway to
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get tied up in a lot of videos we
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watched blue diamonds after you get a
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complete a nice to get tied up in that
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video actually the more I think about it
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I'm that should have been a theme
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running through all my videos and now
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i'm super embarrassed that I didn't
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think about 15 years depressive there
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was I could have just been let every
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video I'm tied up that would've made my
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videos better because I would have been
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fucking dancing around anyway have fun
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to do right at the heart of the film
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there's a moment when
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she opens the door to her boss's office
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and she's walking in to deliver some
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papers to her boss she opens the door
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but instead of her boss's office
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it's a long dirt walk across a rodeo
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field and her boss is sitting at his
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desk wearing a cowboy hat and she she
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makes the walk and puts the papers on
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his desk and then there's the switches
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the scene switches or something that's
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that's that's key moment in establishing
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the character of the boss
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mmm the boss is me I am the boss and if
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you watch the video very closely you'll
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never walk that I never got that see her
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walk across the field
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why would you want a short sleeve shirt
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for the boss because cowboy cowboy boss
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when you tied up the end your cookie
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work for NASA well so this is the beers
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the best the problem right you don't
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make a connection between the between
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cowboy boss in the middle of the film
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and the person getting tied up at the
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end the guy getting tied up with the
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engine seems like a co-worker i I've
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seen this since dozen times I've never
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made that connection so there I am are
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you in the scene with the cowboy hat as
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the boss I am the cowboy hat boss how
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much you would never know it because the
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shot was made from like 80 feet away and
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associate she walks across the field to
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put your papers on the desk the boss is
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sitting there with his pad on that's me
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i'm sitting there I spent an entire day
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sitting in that field for that to second
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shot and i said at the time you know
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like I'm not a guy that's going to sit
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around a music video shoot and not offer
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a few suggestions i said hey I think you
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want one close up shot on the boss and
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her putting the papers down on his desk
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to establish what's happening here
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because this is this the this is this
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gonna be call back later you're gonna
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want it to be clear you are tying up at
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the end you can really see your face at
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the end either it does not read as John
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Roderick because that's what they call
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that well with the little three-point I
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what's that called hot not hogtied where
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they call that
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yeah Hawk time yeah but like when you
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tie the calves like three lives together
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sometime
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it doesn't read as you it does not read
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his cowboy hat boss em and they didn't
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take your note on that the guy who was
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making music videos about it was about
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11 hours older than I was
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he had it all figured out is big-time
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Hollywood music video director getting
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paid $500,000 and I was the keyboard
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player in the band and so no nobody took
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my note and then the video came out it
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was like hey good job
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it doesn't make there's no story here
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you had a story now it's just a series
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of collect it's just a bunch of
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collected images all piled on top of
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each other there's no that's different
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that is a different that is a different
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video because that is a story that is
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that she traps at the end rather than
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just singing like she's deranged exactly
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right because that became real
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if she's just tying up some co-worker
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who stand in front of a copy machine
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then she's a lunatic it's only an intern
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like she's tying up the intern
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yeah and this video is a tragedy mm
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whereas if you had established the boss
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character then yes this video is like a
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revenge fantasy she's she is the
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triumphant hero so also i mean like not
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live underground you know when i hear i
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know i hear you that's Robert recoupable
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also you know there's a great tradition
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whether you're talking about an eighties
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movie or knees video or many other
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eighties things there's like the the
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mean boss not just talking 925 I'm
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talking about like the kind of like who
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the Dean who eventually jumps in the
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pool like that even work in warmer like
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you've got to establish that you've got
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to show her being oppressed by the sky
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that if there's anyone who is the
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antagonist I it if it exists it's either
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her reality or maybe her boyfriend
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because her boyfriend you know she sit
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on the couch with em he's pretty dull
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you know that the Mike Squires is in
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that music video and he gets a nice
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antagonistic moment how many takes did
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it take to get Mike Squires sorry just
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thinking of all the flashy yeah
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he gets in there uh with his little like
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he gives her a covetous glances nice as
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their as they pass in the copy room he
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is a co-worker well lascivious coworker
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got a little star turn Mike Squires nice
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but I was just a you know I could you
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could have had a paper doll
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yeah in place of me and that a shame
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it's just it's a damn shame that you
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have to really scrubbable yeah sure you
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even see me
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I think we started our daughter little
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because the scene where it's sean my
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favorite part of the song my favorite
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part of the video
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Sean you know Sean God he's such a
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performer he cannot be performing he's
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so big and he's install a system the
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catchy and as one
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my wife and I we haven't listened to
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this song on purpose because we don't
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like it because it hasn't come up in a
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while but as one we both go the Marlboro
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Man that of cancer was a rocket
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scientist when he was alive haha my
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daughter looked at us like we were out
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of our money on labor he's got a lot of
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flavor what's a lot of spin on the ball
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and then we watched you guys this is the
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weirdest lineup will align up a few guys
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Seattle TV show but it was weird fucking
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it was you sean michael on drums and
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handsome guy on base
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yeah I don't know what now when is that
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from so accomplished wires and Eric why
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wasn't this is all this is the redox
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it's the reader huh that y know Eric
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okay yeah it's the 2016 10 2013 I never
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remember his name but he was always nice
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and very handsome he's very very and so
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tell me his name
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are you sure you don't remember
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One Bowl as any state of your house
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yes-ish your turn
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pert bro Bobby know it's his name is
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Andy fits
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he's one of the great musicians of
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Seattle and if it has played on a lot of
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and calming he's a wonderful guy he's
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going to back out of a hard time right
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oh no i'm sorry i'm meeting him later
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today as a matter of all please tell me
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i said hi
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well here's the prayer i guess so i have
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a problem no problem is
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last night i got an email from a friend
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you may know you may have heard of
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George Meyer founder of the simpsons oh
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yeah right he said great
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no no that's the other founder of the
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simpsons and he passed away about a
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tragedy
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George was his friend but also one of
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the one of the developers of the
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simpsons yes right Kiki ever sent me a
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nice email you said you want to go to a
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baseball game i said yeah i do want to
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go to a baseball game he said great any
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day this week
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this week i will go to a baseball game
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you wanna take a look at the schedule
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and I said awesome and then I was very
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excited i was going to a baseball game
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with George nothing wrong with that
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walked around for a few hours good
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thinking about the baseball game with
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your job is going to go to sometime this
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week then i get a message from my friend
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Andy fits who's one of my favorite
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musicians and lovely man he said go
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through a little bit of thing we want to
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get together for some something
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something and i was like of course I
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want to be there for my friend Andy want
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to meetup want to get maybe a bowl of
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fun talk about some stuff throw it
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around two guys mano-a-mano so I was
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like well let's get together tomorrow it
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seems like we should you know the the
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the conversation should just get
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commenced upon right yeah somebody's
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like having a time stand long I'm scared
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where this is
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on immediately I get an email from
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Georgetown you want to the baseball game
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tomorrow night I'm like but i just made
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I didn't have anything to do all week
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this is how it always happens i just
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made a plan to go hang out with my
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friend who's gone through a patch and
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now that's the exact time that George
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wants to go to the baseball game and now
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oh no right because i don't want to you
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know you don't want to say no to anybody
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you don't want to go you don't want to
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call your friends having hard times they
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can you postpone your hard time one it
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sounds like the reason you're going to
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get him sounds like you're trying to get
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out of it
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yeah right all my friends have a hard
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time I told him I had two go hand you're
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just gonna be like I thought you said
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you free always said you can't bring
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yourself to say my kids sick like that's
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yeah right
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oh you have it yeah I got some friend of
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Mines whatever I can why didn't you just
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say you didn't want to go to the
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baseball game so then the second so then
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he offers me the second option which is
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friday night which is the beginning
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memorial day and then and that is I
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didn't even think like that friday was
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in play i was like i'm available all
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every day this week went by which i
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meant monday tuesday wednesday thursday
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because you know friday memorial day
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it's like to be on the in the RV on the
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open road so he comes back with George
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comes back with two baseball game
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opportunities and and all the sudden I'm
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just like door uh so i have to write
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back and say what I meant was tuesday
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wednesday thursday and then I sound like
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it like a dingaling we do you do like
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but I can't cancel on Andi and I can't
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you know I can't change memorial day so
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it went from i went from walking around
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on my tippy-toes thinking about going to
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the baseball game with George to here i
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am again here i am again on my own
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going down the only road i've ever known
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yeah which is the road of song like a
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drifter your I was born to walk alone
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alone alone alone alone alone run me da
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cheese great Watergate conjugate
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innovative entrepreneur eight
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so those are the sixties you know you
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know I'm you know that I man in excess
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defender but I also one of the big time
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INXS haters
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yeah it's one of those many things I
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avoid talking to me about INXS we're
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talking about in excess or listening to
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index which would make you happier i'm
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not i'm not a huge fan
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you don't like it except I didn't say
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that I didn't say that I 60 more dollars
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for years you dined out of that hole
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like I'm not a fan thing and now you're
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all of your fan of everything now be
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wrong i'm a huge Bob Dylan fans yeah see
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yeah I the tides have turned you are the
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old crunching guy who doesn't like
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things and I love every oh my god i sold
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my combs haha i know uh captain america
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captain my America a four-star superhero
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i love it also effective
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um no it's because that I super super
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like like almost half a half a dozen of
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their songs and then I just kind of
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really don't like a bunch of them we
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talked about one time and take a little
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ugly use between you and me rapport with
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our with our listeners know this was
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with me so you and I were talking about
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in excess and it got ugly
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well no I avoided it before got two of
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the I like the one thing that's great
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song i like the dream on white girl
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white boy black girl white boy i like
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that song a lot it has a different title
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because the eighties you give a title
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that wasn't in the song
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yeah there's that I like that song is
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about em down down
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shoosh bah-bah-bah you know I didn't
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like super salad bar like I didn't like
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that era mi know but but but the soup
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and salad bar so someone didn't like
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that one not know that's not very good
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ok also never tear us apart is a great
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yeah okay yeah you know what I went like
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that's good there come on that's a
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really good song and that's later period
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so it at the thing you want to do with
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in excess and say like REM know all the
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shit in the early days was good and all
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the later stuff is bad you pull depeche
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mode right but that does not work with
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in excess because there is garbage in
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the garbage out this terrible songs at
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the beginning terrible songs at the end
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but then how do you account for the
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great songs at the beginning and the
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great songs at the end you can account
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for them unless you can let you make an
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actual study of this you gotta really
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get in there you gotta put on some
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gloves it has mass suit you wait into
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the XS and the thing about it is beyond
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my impression of INXS is that they wrote
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democratically right they never kicked
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the drummer out they never there's no
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change its INXS the entire time all of
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the bros and nobody steps forward as
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like well I'm kind of the genius here
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well that with the media it's long has
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11 writer on it who is a man called
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Andrew Farriss with ok two arms and two
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S's ok so he's a member of the band
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yes Andrew Farriss so maybe they're
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right and he got the glasses now he's a
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singer singer singer
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no Michael Hutchence is the single
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michael hutchence famous michael
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hutchence hmm michael hutchence
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everybody acknowledges alive did he take
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his own life
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no yeah it's not clear that i had one of
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those countries situations yeah okay all
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right now said but but you know you got
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the impression that they really worked
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as a band to change i like don't change
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oh my god it's one of the great songs
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great that's great i still walk along
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and uh change down now and they had the
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don't change music video
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who is that they had a really good idea
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really good idea which was that they
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were going to play they're going to get
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into the back of a pickup truck and
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drive away while still playing the song
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but what do you do with the drummer
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alright so everybody gets in all the
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bass player jumps in the guitar player
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they're all still playing this and then
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he'll hit defender or something at yeah
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yeah he did
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yes he's like drumming on the side of
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the truck and that just doesn't work you
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can still hear the kick drum in the
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recording I wasn't convinced
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yeah I don't like that there's a
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geodetic right nonny identity music I
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don't like that
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mhm its on the screen you should you
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should be able to hear it and vice versa
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yeah precious heart I don't know need
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you tuna they're gross
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there's so much bad stuff though but I
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you-know-who 6h it's terrible
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terrible and yet and I'm i will go all
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the way to the mass about what entitles
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there's somebody bad stops all the way
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devil inside you never inside and give
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it to inglewood wasn't that's not good
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what what you need
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hmm which a lot of people i think if you
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were using if you were putting the REM
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overlay on in excess
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uh-huh what you need would be orange
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crush right it's the first sign that the
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worm has turned blue
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huh and i don't mean the worm has turned
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into a Shakespearean sense i mean in
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tequila send literally in the bottle
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it's turned it's gone it has not turned
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on you turned to a bad word oh I see you
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do a little you doing a little sign
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language stuff here a little bit fine
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little Foucault pendulum but i'm saying
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there are a lot of people that are gonna
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go what you need is with the beginning
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about it and I'm gonna say no bad access
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was there all along and good and excess
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was there all along and what you need
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actually is in the good excess camp i
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think i like when the i'm not saying
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they're trying to do this but i like
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when they do it in my head they're
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trying to sound like hoodoo gurus that's
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the one I like I like that in excess and
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there's someone they seem like they're
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trying to some more like I don't know
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like not sisters of mercy but there they
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get kinda like he's saying don't go
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getting too low and it's got all the bam
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bam kind of stuff i don't like the map
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stuff that then that what you need has
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more Batman it's got a lot about that
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and almost any other song except you're
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rich mix missionary man who are in
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missionary man has almost exactly the
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same amount of Bob as in excess what you
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need and they're contemporaneous and I
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think missionary man actually want to
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mtv music that is about that song
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yeah have you stored as with the mission
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and our jam right arrow and the guy in
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the music video for missionary man looks
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exactly like the guy from world party
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oh my goodness go go go look in look
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immediately
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mmm i think it's almost maybe is the chi
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it's hard to watch this without watching
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it I'm gonna come back to this mission
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their radio supply have you explored the
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previous band of her and they store the
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tourists so what now
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they were in a new wave power pop man
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before that called the tourists you're
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talking about Annie Lennox and Dave
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Stewart yeah and they do a cover of oh I
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only want to be with you
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that is one of the great things let's
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look right now let's go to one of you do
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know that that would be fun it
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yeah go look guys go google on the
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tourists I only want to be with no not
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that version with the other version the
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2010 film or wandering a florian henckel
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von donnersmarck now that's director
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that's kraftwerk cover band literally
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director of the tourists starring now
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somebody angelina jolie is in it
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the reason I print a lot is we have we
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print and we scan we scan things and we
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print things and i started printing out
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mm do you print out all your emails and
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put them in a file cabinet prospective
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only way I can get inbox zero bee-boop
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that no fuck you were aware how many
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wait how many folders do you have let me
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get got a bunch of nada
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god damn it um yes you do but it's okay
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i just went full on Roscoe didn't I up
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to remember the game a dog member flash
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like they gave him my game a little
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hound dog is the joke they couldn't have
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a kid to the show so they added a dog
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can give him a little dog named flash so
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now you have you ever noticed that
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sheriff Rosco p Coltrane is proto Bob
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how we have right I see that right oh
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yeah Bob Odenkirk is doing Roscoe p
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Coltrane right about one-third of his
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characters that's yeah you know that's
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finally on the HBO again on there a
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little streaming channel so i justyou
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yeah yeah and I think that's one of the
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shows that didn't belong to HBO you know
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I it doesn't matter anyway I started
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watching these shows again it's still
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yeah that's what it comes up a lot of
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this program and people probably don't
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know what we're talking about we make a
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show checks so this is one of those
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weird things where I you know I i
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discovered this the other day I was
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talking to a close friend about some
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component of the alcohol recovery
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movement and I realized that she really
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didn't have a encyclopedic knowledge of
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like addiction dependency culture and
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literature and I was a time when
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everything was 12-step deputy like in
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the late eighties early nineties there's
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a giant self-help boom and part of that
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self-help boom lucky good luck suddenly
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go to the bookstore this entire section
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of pink books out of nowhere
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remember you can always go right
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together those mainly marketed at women
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and women love pink so they're all these
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pink books and everything was a call
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recovery your recovery they say recovery
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that is to say that today I think so
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yeah there are a lot of people in
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recovery still although it's not it
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doesn't it doesn't feel like it's quite
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the cure all that it once was but it was
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I mean it got I don't sound insensitive
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because it helped a lot of people but I
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mean even the template AAA then you got
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into narcotics anonymous and then I
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think it became a lot about abuse like
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wasn't like recovering from a pelican
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abusive childhood that was up that was a
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part of it and then it then it got to a
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point where you could use the tenants or
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rather it was it was promoted that you
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could use the tenants of of Alcoholics
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Anonymous to address almost any issue so
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that you could you could be in recovery
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from television you could be four you
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know from over watching television you
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could be in recovery from
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I don't I mean that was the point at
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which I i got off anything but it was
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and I'm again I try because it helps you
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but it was as though anything that was
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traumatic and difficult or compulsive or
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anything that preoccupied your mind
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basement or caused you
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you know i don't i'm not exactly even
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sure because i didn't go to all the
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punchline became a punch line that you
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know that you're the key know there's
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several punchlines about a not to make
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fun of a but just to say like you know
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maybe you have a problem that becomes a
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punchline making amends to kinda becomes
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a punch line but this this person I was
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talking to was a millennium and she did
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not you know the millenniums millenniums
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are gonna make the Dean's look they're
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gonna make the Generation Y look like
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the greatest general more like
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generation why am i right row generation
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why not
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sochi they you know didn't come up in
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this they came up in post recovery irony
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era sure so she just doesn't even you
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know and I'm talking to her like oh yeah
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but I'm gonna happen at all this like
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with all this 12-step ism that sort of
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is just in the water where I live and
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she's like it's almost in a way reset
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where the one of them the millenniums
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are like alcohol alcoholics aren't they
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like people to live under bridges like
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no no no work with we spent years and
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years trying to take away the stigma who
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and now we neglected we didn't end that
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garden for a little while and all the
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millenniums like alcoholics that's gross
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yeah hopefully we have to start all over
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again we have to start we have to beat
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them all down with our alcoholic
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alcoholism like cricket bats
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it's a cricket but black wax 23 flag so
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a lot of you know a lot of language a
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language
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use but I feel a did you did I ever tell
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you the story about the time I got a I
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got a video like that I got texted a
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video from Dave Stewart no I don't think
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I know that I'm also just in consultable
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right now that looks like the the
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original mtv-style version of this video
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is just not available the tourists yeah
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used to be everywhere you'll still get
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the feeling but it's really it's a
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really cool a tease video so Dave
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Stewart texted you a video
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well yes so I had a friend who was
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working in the studio in Nashville with
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Dave Stewart producing and I was like
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you gotta be kidding me
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you gotta be kidding me you're working
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with Dave Stewart I'm kind of a little
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bit of a superfan
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yeah and the person I was talking to was
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also a millennium and they were like oh
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really who know like he's the producer
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on the sesh the house like he's the
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producer on the sesh
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I bet he is really looking forward to
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the weekend you get that's not what but
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he's also like you know major influence
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on me one of the Great's truly one of
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the grades and she was like old you want
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me to like say hi to him for you and I
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was like that
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yes I do I don't know why but I do
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and so a later on that night I get a
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video of Dave Stewart very close to the
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camera and honestly a little soused for
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him saying LOL LOL up
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hello John ourselves a stick with it
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keep it keep being it great
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masinloc who whatever
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cheers mate and then he turns around and
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and you know I think you anymore tassa
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fault that that's literally standing and
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always turns around maybe is also
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wearing a top hat
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members carrying a briefcase
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that's possibly handcuffed to his wrist
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and he walks slowly down the hall all
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the top hat didn't fall off
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no no it's a little jaunty angle all the
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way to the end and then he turns to the
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left but he doesn't like he doesn't
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smooth he gets to the end stops turns to
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the left its seeds off-screen like a
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steampunk basic program yeah and I just
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felt like wow that just made me that
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just made my night
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that's nice no it's nice that the
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Millennium are thought to to get the
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holeshot in my coveralls keep these kids
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today they tear away you don't get more
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into seconds of video of anything
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interesting we learned in the age of the
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handycam is that you got it you got to
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stay on one thing for a while right and
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then we'll do that today the kids don't
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know that today
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this wasn't a snapchat right this was a
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this was something else
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yeah this was that wasn't mine challenge
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this was a film that she was making just
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for me and she understood that that that
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was one old person communicating through
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that the internet tubes to another old
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person and she was just an intermediary
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and she was going to impose her
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millennium aesthetic on it over because
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she knew that this old person one
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well as continuing to perform all the
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way down the hall and that the other of
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the old person on the other end of the
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line was gonna keep watching this video
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even if he walked to infinity and she
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was like I'm gonna keep this camera
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rolling I don't know what you guys are
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I don't even know who you are I'm images
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of the tourists now and this is an evil
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this is like I didn't even think
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Maryland google young Annie Lennox well
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that how far off i will have a nice week
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that's how far off I what is the thing
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forget what they forget is that she's
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probably pushing 70 so a she looks I
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mean not that it matters she looks
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amazing today but like you know she was
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in her thirties and the earth makes i
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think god I wish you could see that
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she's wearing like a little skirt and
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it's like there's new way of going on
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and there's it's a white but it's got
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its got the classic 80s video that the
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white background and they're like
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standing on like pedestals and stuff its
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petals neway pedestal ah
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you know the other day I was you know we
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we sometimes talk about Linda Ronstadt
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yeah and then I was in a thrift store
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with a friend and she brought over a
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copy of the Linda Ronstadt album from
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1976 where she's actually on roller sky
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course that us something something USA
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so much at USA america USA hockey is his
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burger bank and she's wearing a jacket
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on then she's that jacket and I pretty
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sure satin shorts shorts or sound like
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Jim trunks all or maybe they're
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terrycloth either would be fine
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yeah right like there's a part of me
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that's the understatement shorts not
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even sure I've ever been with a woman
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who was wearing terry cloth shorts with
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a little with little white bunting
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uh-huh but that imprinted on me in 1976
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oh yeah someone of the idea the feminine
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ideal and I've never I what I don't know
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why I haven't ever acted that play out
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yeah but in any case I realized that
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there's a huge difference for me between
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pre perm Linda Ronstadt post perm sure
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and I was not pro perm
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yeah i was anti Permian tire time that
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firms were more pressure and affliction
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they were everywhere my best friend got
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I didn't like / 13 year old boy with a
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permanent he deliberately got an afro
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it's crazy to think you know Clapton all
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through cream had a prom a giant perm
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what is happening huh
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I don't know how women I i clicked on
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the tourists and I got a bunch of images
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of fleetwood mac in the studio and I'm
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not sorry about that either
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yeah seagull earns it learns from you
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this is such this is such an old old
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dude old day to him and joyce joyce
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meyers George myers lifemate yeah her
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ok nice double points you know who her
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father is her father is I don't be
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amazing how he's gotten through it
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know about this like people buy our
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trade bill clinton talk about free trade
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such thing as free money
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value for their money
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that's true and now they're going to be
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able to wear those shirts out it's going
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they're gonna they're gonna be wearing
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them from across the crowded dance floor
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it's absolutely right let's make whoopie
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of finger banging just based on this one
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with each other we have only about this
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virginity thought that's twice what I
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it's really a new age it is a new age
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think about you all the versions out
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kids are really sophisticated but
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they're still virgins but banging but
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the Virgin's yeah but bangin but being
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that's why you need to do you like gurus
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lone justice all boys she something she
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than me not even just 22 years old
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maybe I'll i grew up with Star Wars you
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got that Empire Strikes Back exactly
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is the fitness gurus is right in this
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key little keyhole
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active you were already digging into
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let's active at a time when I was like I
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Peter Buck wearing a blue skidoo' sure I
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video the rocky tonight video do red
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oral histories of that video
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everything I love I love the in the dark
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what we're talking about right emotions
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yeah that's from that Rodney tonight
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potential tracks well no it's from signs
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album emotions in motion that record i
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serious partner downstairs there are two
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people two men that she regarded as the
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cockney rhyming slang for penis meets
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billy corgan i'll tell you all the time
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he was always the worst
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he was he and I have the exact same
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birthday
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his name was David exact same birthday
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were born on the same day
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in history same birthdate same birthdate
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doesn't work that's an important
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distinction 1968 yes but he was a year
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younger in school he was a junior when I
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was a senior and he was very handsome he
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looks like a young Tom Selleck which I
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know doesn't sound very good but he had
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like super dimples and it was cute and
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he was like he was GQ let me get my old
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for his grade and made you young for
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your grade I was very young for
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migrating very old for his grip and I i
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read a thing the other day that said
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that kids born during the summer
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typically have a typically this is the
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new metric apparently every I've read
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this all the time now as a as a way of
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like tracking kids progress but kids
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born in the summer are less likely like
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significantly less likely to become CEOs
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which is the american standard of
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achievement no kidding because they're
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the youngest kid in their grade and so
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if you're born in july or something then
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you're much younger than kids that are
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born in April because if you're born in
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July your you know you are you're in the
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class of you know you turned five and
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then you are intending it like if you're
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born during the school year
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what becomes the school year you get
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their normal birthday parties right but
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you get a summer birthday and we're
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gonna do you need a half birthday
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I mean like that's weird but i was born
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in September zone and I went into the
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grade school I went into grade as though
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I were one of these you know I was four
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when i started kindergarten so talk
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about less likely to be a CEO yeah you
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could not be more disadvantaged than me
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in this capacity it a kid born two days
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later would have been held back here
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I should have been but doesn't give you
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a great shift to have great to be a fly
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yes i do have grip mhm i'm still not a
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CEO but it's i'm still a young man
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yeah anyway David so so I I probably
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told you this before but I decided when
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I was a junior
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but I've never had a girlfriend and I
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had never i was succeeding in high
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school in the sense that I was making a
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name for myself as a as a as a kind of
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an anti-authoritarian clown the
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blutarsky move but I was not succeeding
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in high school on high schools terms and
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in my junior year at the very beginning
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of my junior year I said you know what
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I'm not gonna do this i'm not going to
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go through high school being a dork i am
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going to i'm going to do something about
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it and I remember I had my dad my mom is
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actually sounds like something my mom
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and then she bought me one of those desk
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blotters oh nice looking like the
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calendar the calendar was a terrific
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well yeah but I mean talk about it talk
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about a 10th grader whose pretty much
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destined to be a dork all through high
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school and desk blotter sure and I'm
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sitting at my desk blotter before junior
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year starts I'm plotting how am I gonna
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do this
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how am I gonna how am I going to like
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overcome because i'm sitting in the back
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of the class right now I'm covered in
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dandruff
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I don't shoot tobacco I've never kissed
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a girl i'm a year younger than ever in
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here like the world's saddest nuttin no
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haggart's left
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yeah come I'm shaped like like one of
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those logs of cookie dough and I smell
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like one of those logs of cookie dough
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because when are you moving school I eat
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about a half a log of cookie dough
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uncooked yeah because it's the greatest
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thing in history i am just I am like up
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i am the worst realizing you gotta
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change your game a little bit yeah I
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gotta check yourself before you wreck
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yourself
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what do i do and i wrote there because
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my dad was born in nineteen twenty-one
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and he used a lexicon that even in the
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early nineteen eighties was no longer
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being used but I wrote big man on campus
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right time i see the moc on the top of
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my desk blotter and I looked at the
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words i studied the words I was like big
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man on campus how does one become a big
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man on campus because my dad would talk
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about at the at the fraternities in 1938
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the big man on campus he he tied up a
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crew sweater around his neck any swing a
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tennis racket everywhere he went to me
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was a member of the crew team and he
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drove a model a jalopy with a raccoon
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tail hanging from the from the antenna
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that right there is a big man on campus
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it's a big man on campus he would cram a
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bunch of undergraduates into a phone
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booth uh-huh like he was he was the guy
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who was the guy like saddle swallow a
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goldfish that kind of thing that's right
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mhm so how do i get to be a big man on
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campus studying this thing and I was
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like just studying the words big man on
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I've got to get a girlfriend that's one
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of the things that you've gotta get a
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girlfriend and I was like how does one
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get a girlfriend I have no earthly idea
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girls terrify me
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I don't know how to go about doing this
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I feel like you need to exercise may be
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in order to get a girlfriend maybe not
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sure so I went to school in the
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beginning of my junior year I was like
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you could tell just by the way people
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treated me that I was being I was
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definitely on a track to be excluded and
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I already preferred to be in the band
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room at lunch so I was headed their part
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like my preference was to ally myself
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with my peers who were people that sat
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in the band room at lunch and practice
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the clarinet or sat in the dark room of
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the student newspaper and like I mean
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had a friend who was the one of the
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photographers of the student newspaper
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who would just take surreptitious
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photographs of the cheerleaders and then
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develop them and like I don't know what
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he would do with the pictures to mean
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it's not like they were panty upskirt
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shots everybody sees applying himself
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yeah he would just sit across the just
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focus on the gym
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weirdo but i decided i needed a
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girlfriend so i started i got just got
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to school to be getting a junior year
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and I was like who is going to be my
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girlfriend who's the lucky girl who
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who's who is going to like be the one
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and I picked Kiki for I've talked about
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her on the show but she's a redhead girl
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that's right redheaded girl night and
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she was the class president I chased her
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I chased her i chased your muscles and
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then I want her affections and then we
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were like a couple and she was abused a
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big wheel and then I was a big wheel
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I was big man on campus all of a sudden
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largely because I had because i had
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coupled with this with this very
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accomplished lady and when I genuinely
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loved her I mean she was she was in my
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thoughts all the time because she kind
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of your Diane Court a little bit out of
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your league
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she was totally out of my league and she
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said so multiple times you know notes
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that she would pass me in class that
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said literally i am out of your league
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stop harassing you dander covered log
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and i would say look I know then this is
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just a code for how much you love and
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adore here and she would say you are log
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I'm a very important woman I have
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important business to attend to
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which includes getting good grades and
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being popular and he who are I'm just
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the fact that passing you these notes is
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diminishing my stature
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uh-huh and I was like I love you too
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anyway Kelly Cooper and I broke up
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during the summer between junior and
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senior year largely because after we
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were in a relationship she was like
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here's what relationships look like and
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I didn't understand that and still don't
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I was like what you mean we just spend
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all our time together just you and me
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all the time
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uh-huh she was like that's right that's
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what that's what boys and girls do when
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they become an early
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chip but that's not what you're
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expecting I was like I thought that what
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you did was you guys like did went out
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together and did crimes are so do
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whatever you like with your leaders of a
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uh-huh like wouldn't you be picky picky
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just because the good Garrow to my
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Fonzie yeah
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pinky and Fonzie didn't just hold up all
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the time and watch ferris bueller's day
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off on VHS know they were like hanging
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with their with their gangs their
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respective gang adventures your own
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adventures but you've got your gang has
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pink satin jackets my gang is apparently
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Richie and Pazzi which is weird wouldn't
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find you have like a cool cool gang
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yes anyway we broke up during the summer
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the beginning of junior beginning of
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senior year Kelly starts going out with
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David David David you're all your
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frenemy
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that's right the guy who has the same
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birthday as me exactly where exactly the
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same age but he's a year younger that's
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no accident
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he's a year younger and he's all
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fashionable he's like super fashionable
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he's where he's gotta guess watch the
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you know he's wearing his red guess
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clothes and he's got his hair is all
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perfectly you're selling your own
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alligator on things
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I'm someone I'm someone in an extra
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alligator humping the one alligator like
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the alligator on the shirt minion extra
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alligator because I'm living out some
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movies that I've been writing as i go
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and i was so appalled i was so I was
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appalled
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that's what it was I was like why are
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you wire is kelly why are you debasing
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yourself by going out with this child
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who's the same age as me she was like I
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don't know he's really handsome
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so David years later moved into the same
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house i was living in down here in
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Seattle
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I wasn't paying rent i was sleeping on
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the couch her he moved in and actually
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started paying rent took one of the
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rooms all that's not fair that's not
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cricket both know so now his status in
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this house in this grunge house is
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higher than mine like you know what I
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mean like if you rip your rent pay
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absolutely you get you get you to have
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preferences sure you get a shelf in the
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cupboard that's for your canned food the
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couch boys catch by with the
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you-know-what like the kid is a log he
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didn't get that I'm the long again
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you're the dancer lawyer yeah I'm the
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log and I'm and I'm and I'm stealing a
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cancer ravioli out of the out of the
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kitchen that don't even belong to me
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well I couldn't afford a can regulate my
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own but if I could I would have even had
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a shelf right haha so many levels it's
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very confusing sure it's and so did she
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come around
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who oh sorry Kelly get back together
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didn't you
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not really well no she's like a doctor
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now right yeah I was you know
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oh we talked about this one time and
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then some kid chastise me on the
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internet because I said where she worked
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three times or something like that
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yeah but a but so now now i can barely I
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can barely bring myself to under her
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name but no she was what she was she
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ended up she got her revenge on me got
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her revenge on me for sure
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not just but for dating David but you
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know like other things she would
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yeah she came to visit me in college
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yeah one time came to visit me at my
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weird northwestern Catholic school and
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she sort of trips and you know I took a
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year off before I went to college so I
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was now a great under her i was a
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freshman and she was a sophomore at a
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big-time he's Coast University and she
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came to my college and waltz around the
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dorm like looking basically looking
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indoors like what what do you what are
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you kids doing here just like a why are
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you doing this to me but you don't call
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her Bluff on it cuz i kinda wanna see
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what's your what's your game here Kelly
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what's your game i did not have the
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ability to call girls on their game
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until just recently
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oh really i was super interesting i was
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4100 before i could say hey what's your
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game here general purpose of just find
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yourself calling someone on their game
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no no I well oh you're saying that you
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make a study of it saying I'm gonna go
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call this girl in the game
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I've been studying it for 26 years and I
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think maybe I look maybe it at age 41 I
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had a new desk blotter and i had written
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at the top of it some other acronym and
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I was like you know what you're never
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gonna you're not gonna make it in this
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life if you keep playing
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it's not you know like boys can't play
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games on me it's just girls that are
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playing games on me and I keep taking
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them at their word you keep giving him
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the keys keys dear to your mind box
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I'm like okay is this is that the or her
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purple yeah yeah
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and so I finally was like wait a minute
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what's your game manager came and it was
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very effective because you never done it
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before but I've never done before and I
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don't realize on doing it or but all the
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sudden John is how to call somebody in a
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game it's like you got a third I know my
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friend now you don't even need to know
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what their games you just you just say
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what's your game and then they feel like
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a whole different skill that's a whole
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different later skill at least knowing
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there's a game there it's like you're
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there was no you're gaslighting me right
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and they're like the jig is up
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I don't know what you're doing but I
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know you're doing something doing so I
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don't know what you're doing but I know
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you're doing something
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whoo-hoo and all of a sudden it all
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turned around or not all know it but you
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know so some so no I was not capable of
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calling Kelly on her game and she game
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to the shit out of me a because she was
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your older than me
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b-because well no she would she would
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say she wasn't year-old it's like a kid
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with a magnifying glass and some ants
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the EU know the kid does not have a good
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reason for sizzling the and he's doing
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because he can I think I think Kelly was
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doing because she could not think he's a
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bad person just by a great doctor but
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the fact that she's doing that casinos
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you you got your little dinosaur are you
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trying to fight back with you got no
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chance against Kelly I feel like all I
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feel like this is true of all human yeah
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in a deal doesn't really know like
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destroy all humanoids at one level to
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another level i love all people you do
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and this is very challenging for people
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sometimes to understand that I all
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humans John you love humans i love all
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humans and I want to destroy all humans
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and now i don't see I don't think it's
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necessarily incompatible I don't see how
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that's incompatible it's like just like
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McNamara says right sometimes you have
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to destroy humanity to save it
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that's exactly that's exactly right I i
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love human so much and I believe in
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humans but i believe that they should be
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destroyed at all costs because the
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mhm and their plague on to one another
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first 01 worst kind of plague a plague
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that gives its own plague to a plague
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that's right that's terrible you got
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terraform that shit you got the guy a
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bomb it's a plague that reproduces by
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plugging itself it makes place by makes
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plagues with plagues through plagues by
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plagued by proxy em right so it keeps
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injecting this it keeps injecting the
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poop into itself
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yeah yeah sure yeah that's that's the
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kind of evolution
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so what I want to do is basically what
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if it rained for like 40 days
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okay we're at night to rain tonight rain
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all day and all night ok so 40 days and
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40 nights
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ok let's call it that ok rain that
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entire time just rained can't get my
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picture and I'm talking about a ranger
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about like a lot of range lot of rain
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and everywhere right now we're talking
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about the entire earth forty days and
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forty nights rain
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ok ok it's raining in Antarctica it's
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raining in the Gobi Desert its raining
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its so first there's lots of those lots
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of articles in the local paper about
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this is good we've been having a drought
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that's right it's nice that it's been
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raining for eight days and eight nights
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eight whole days imagine what would
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happen in los angeles california that
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reigned for eight straight days the
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entire city with skid I don't know if
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you've been daily recently who now say
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once they're desperate for rain you have
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any like people saying they want wisdom
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they don't really want wisdom they just
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want to be smart but you're talking
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about a conflagration here you're
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talking about a a disruptive see the
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thing is now you got your sewers are
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year roads you're going to spell all the
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oils you're gonna stock up all the golf
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courses like anywhere for that water to
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go and just going to accumulate the LA
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River is going to overflow its banks LA
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River is going to make that
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that's so but that was just raining in
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LA and military yourselves over an
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entire earth the earth it's raining on
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earth for 40 days now right away and at
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night ooo and at night there's no let up
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know it doesn't let up right away the
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the the weather channel is going to note
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this right because normally it if it's
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raining one place not raining another
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house to CNN starts having a countdown
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clock like you want to eat longest it's
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ever reigned tick-tock tick-tock except
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there except like moment 12 minutes into
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this phenomenon
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somebody's going to go on the weather
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channel go uh every upside to break in
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place by literally raining everywhere
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it's literally raining every time
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there's actually a 100-percent percent
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chance of rain because it's literally
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raining everywhere and this is
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meteorological e impossible
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so where where we're going to the
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computers right now and we'll get back
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to you in a minute right Peter Jennings
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is like wait a minute
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yeah stop the presses still how easy he
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might be dead but I remember Peter
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Jennings during 911 I'd like to see
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Peter Jennings doing doing 40 days of
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rain coverage see it's like a reverse
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Ted Koppel did you watch him during the
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during the 911
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I i lucked upon him i chanced upon him
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as I was switching through the channels
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and he did he was the greatest American
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even though he's a Canadian yeah he was
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the greatest American all Americans now
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he was straight he's very calm very
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centered very solemn but he wasn't being
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overly dramatic and he was not full of
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shit like everybody else was and at a
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certain point i don't know if you
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remember this and I wish that I I've
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never good talking on the day on the day
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on the day when I felt like by 10 that
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morning our time it felt like literally
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anything could happen
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yeah and it didn't also was like will
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somebody take charge of the situation
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there's no way I mean I mean I just have
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that I remember that feeling my wife
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while i was working at home in those
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days and my boss called unlike now I
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have an office
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right quote unquote work but that was 7
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something the morning you wake up you
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got your watch like a holy shit this
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doesn't look like an accident and then
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you here like this stuff going on in
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Pennsylvania etc and then when the other
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plane hit the tower you're like okay
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literally anything could happen right
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now you cannot make a plausible movie of
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this there's no way that this could
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actually be happening so i slept til ten
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o'clock in the morning that morning yeah
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and then I woke up to my mom sitting on
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my bed which never happened oh my god
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with her hand on my knee which never
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happened and I was like what is going on
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if you get your dad no worse sigh who
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knows what would present what would
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prompt my mom to wake me up and she said
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I said she's an infection by sitting on
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my bed be and touching my knee see all
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right what is time pretty familiar
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she said I have bad news man shit she
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was like somebody flew two planes into
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the World Trade Center and blew them up
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and was like I had just returned from
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New York right I'd been at the top of
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the world trade center on august 30th
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i've been i've been in seattle for a
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remember that elevator your ears to pop
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on the LA right so yeah it was a
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fast-moving elevator for them but it
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took minutes when i was there letter 89
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it's just it's like there's no way this
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elevator i could be this loan is very
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tall built
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yeah so she turns on the TV and there's
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one tower on the TV smoking and one
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tower standing and I was like what are
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you talking about mom that's that's one
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plane and she said no I've seen this
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footage over and over by now just watch
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and then because they're replaying over
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and over and over again so it was so she
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like she had already taken the sting she
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already somewhat like spoiler alert of
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me before I actually saw it so I didn't
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see it in real time I i got the I got
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the CliffsNotes and then I was right but
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Peter Jennings at one point said as he
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was reporting that President Bush and
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his entourage
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were mysteriously just flying in circles
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around America I don't know if you
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remember I do
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he just got everything that the thing
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that I'm going to beat this to death but
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the thing that you can overstate is that
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when the first one happened you're like
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this is the craziest news of the last 20
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years or whatever you did a plane
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because of first you're going there's no
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way that's what happened
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there's no way that eighth plane because
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the things you need to know a lot about
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aeronautics in aviation it's pretty hard
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to hit a building with a plane there for
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them it's pretty well the first one even
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the first one that's happening you're
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like and the reports are coming up and
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we're not sure where dick cheney is all
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this stuff going on and and even in that
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is that period and then the other one
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is that the one that like with a blue
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the hole through yeah and you're just
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like wait a minute there's gotta be a
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mistake
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that's got to be an error there's no way
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that happened twice
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yeah and now course you can always used
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to think about it ruminate on people as
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it was happening
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it felt like the most demanding you
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start hearing reports of other things
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happening and you're like a night
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remember very distinctly by noon that
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day thinking fucking anything could
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happen today if we found out those is
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that this was like I mean I'm not trying
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to sound glib but like we found out
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there was some kind of like bizarre
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virus or alien invasion at this point i
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would not be that surprised or if you
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turn on the TV and you're like Houston
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was just destroyed it in a nuclear
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explosion
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every time I saw playing for two or
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three weeks cuz then there's the thing
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all now the golden gate bridge is gonna
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be next time getting course they all
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look like bombs didn't everything all
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use I would hear a plane and I would
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have to look out there and I wasn't even
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traumatized by this in the way that you
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know me and my friends in other places
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where I didn't have the personal
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experience of this but I just do for a
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few weeks you're like who fucking knows
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what's gonna happen yeah they look like
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Peter sorry Peter Jennings so a one
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point in the in the late afternoon he
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gets visibly frustrated on air and says
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when will the president make a statement
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or in some way take charge of the
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situation because the president needs to
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appear now it isn't was in hiding not
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having but you know it's been hours are
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cutting hours and the Vice President is
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in an undisclosed location but the
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president is just flying around in the
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sky and making no public statement and
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he was like it was shocking how
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how visibly frustrated he was and how
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much he was speaking the truth from in
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his own voice on the air and it and it
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was it was the moment that I realized
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that George W Bush was a chicken shit
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and that everything he did subsequent to
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that moment was a chickenshit move like
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I lost through Peter Jennings eyes I
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realized that george bush was was a
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chicken shit and he should never have
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been elected president he should never
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have survived his teen years and I still
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have a space for him down the vote i
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still have I still have a bed when you
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walk by sometimes little room number six
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and think I'm still only boy three
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squares in a chair veto because we're
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gonna find out the depth of his chicken
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shitted who but that that way your best
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buddy your bed starts drinking buddy
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welfare
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what does know the dimensions of your
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room start being a little bit more week
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our now.com you did you know that i own
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an undisclosed location com no shh
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