Roderick on the Line

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00:00:20 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin hmm how's it [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► going well hello Merlin Lou goodbye [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► heart [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► Marilyn some so in love with you come [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► that's Roderick's clown and it's Daisy's [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► mom down the stream and getting the [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► cocoon [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► did you watch the young ones when you're [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► coming up i did have you heard the news [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► uh there's a there's there's young ones [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► news take it they break it [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► were you aware that there was a fifth [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► roommate uh it was yeah I was Sergei or [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► yeah let's say collection which they [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► sell its funny I was just saying to a [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► great interview with him know I kind of [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► spoil this for you blow your mind but it [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► wasn't the squirrel [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► oh and the explaining to me and smiling [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► talking tomatoes [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► huh no there's a fifth roommate in some [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► production stills or like promotional [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► shots you'll see the four guys and then [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► this one looks it looks kinda like [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► cousin it where it's obviously like a [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► woman with long hair with her hair [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► combed over her face she makes an [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► appearance in every episode of the first [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► season and I've seen those shows a lot [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► mark and I never saw her she's usually [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► in the background and once you see it [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► first of all it's incredibly wild that [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► you never notice that she's there but [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► she's also incredibly creepy because [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► she's just like sitting like crouched in [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► the background behind the couch with [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► hair interface and it's it's gonna blow [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► your mind when you see what [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► yes yes oh yeah like seen that I've seen [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► a whole bunch of time she just sitting [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► there in the shadows and it's she looks [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► like a Korean water ghost it's totally [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► freaky ok [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► yes that's something that Google am i [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► right all right i'll send you they'll [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► send me some some supporting footage [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► ok but I heard about it I was like oh is [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► this could be one of those things you [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► know those things on the internet but [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► can internet fingers are gonna be a real [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► thing I I got to be honest we got that [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► was gonna be an internet thing but she's [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► just she's just in the background [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► she's in like some party there's a party [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► scene where everybody's doing bong hits [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► and she's at the party but other than [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► that mostly I think she's intermittently [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► occasionally there after the first as a [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► series but the the first season [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► she's in at least once and sometimes [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► many times in every episode somewhere in [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► the background not participating in the [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► scene really maybe it's horrifying [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► uh ok it's nice to find those kinds of [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► things out yeah that's what they call an [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► easter egg am i right that's right you [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► got [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► well done was done easter egg donor for [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► change on tied with no I know a lot [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► about things from 4chan this is the [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► thing here's the thing about you a lot [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► of people don't know is that there's a [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► lot of people don't know about you and I [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► like that I like that you you are you [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► deploy personal information [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► tactically you don't need to let [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► everybody know you like no know a lot [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► about a thing guy like this little bit [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► TG dribble it dribbles John dribbles out [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► at his pleasure you gotta dribble what I [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► do feel [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► did you just hear a sound that sounded [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► like traffic noise in the nineteen [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► seventies movie i think that was met my [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► little cousin act like exhaling like oh [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► maybe maybe being actually sound like Oh [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► Jack it did for a brief second [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► do you remember in the nineteen [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► seventies where ya remember that traffic [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► sounded a lot louder who the seventies [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► yes it you only hear that volume of [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► traffic like you're in manhattan or in [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► some cases in my neighborhood if you [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► ever like call me when I walk down the [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► street it's it's the trains going by its [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► deafening but growing up in the suburbs [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► I always thought you're making this up [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► there's no way traffic is this loud [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► well a bit like so this is something [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► that you know that the millenniums might [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► not know and even even a Generation Xers [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► might not remember but there was a time [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► when there were no governor's on the [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► loudness of car horns [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► so all car horns that came out of you [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► know Detroit in the sixties and [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► seventies you hit your car horn it was [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► like a boat horn oh yeah I under an old [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► American an old American sedan like you [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► would get an F sharp from hell [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► like you really really heard it and matt [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► and so in the city's this was before [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► there were a lot of campaigns for [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► traffic politeness [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► yeah cars would pile up and they would [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► just be honking honking honking that's [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► the human condition right there isn't it [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► was a deafening noise or unhappy [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► there's nothing we can do about it so we [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► might as well be unpleasant man mark [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► lugar whatever and oh yeah and there are [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► still cars the window go sure after [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► jimmy carter and that's so later on it [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► was such a problem cities were so loud [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► that they actually passed ordinances and [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► and and then furthermore laws that [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► governed the the volume of a car horn so [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► that your car could only be a certain [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► number of Billy actually a minute you [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► tell me this is a thing [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► yeah they actually mommy stated the [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► volume of car horns because it because [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► noise pollution was such a problem the [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► whole concept of noise pollution and you [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► know and all the starters when people [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► first started talking about that let me [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► interrupt you but you know for a long [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► time you can understand air pollution [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► because it's hard to breathe [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► you understand water pollution because [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► we know we can drink the large breed [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► water you can understand you don't want [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► dioxin in the eggs like we understand [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► all that but when people first I think [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► it was the seventies equivalent of the [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► word microaggressions when people first [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► heard that they were like really now [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► noise pollution [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► yeah but it was it was so noticeable [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► when they governed the volume of car [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► horns like it made a tremendous impact [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► on quality of life in cities like right [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► away and [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► and then they took other steps to get to [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► mandate that your your city factory and [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► your city you know your enterprises have [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► also be conscious of the noise that they [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► were producing and I think you know car [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► mufflers were a lot louder than it it [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► was it was kind of considered an element [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► of of a cool car that it'd be really [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► loud just sitting there idling you could [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► buy cherry bombs you could buy thrush [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► that's right goodbye glasspack people [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► might vaguely remember seeing a woody [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► the woodpecker type character on the [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► back of a muscle car and thought what [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► was that [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► that means that's a person who pay to [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► have their cargo pom-pom rubber-like so [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► it was fucking loud you know in the city [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► and everyone will be watching like an [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► old nineteen seventies movie and then [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► we'll just be a traffic scene where [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► that's just sort of an interstitial [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► moment in the film but i'll have this [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► powerful recollection of like oh wow [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► that's right it used to sound like that [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► yep and now it does not sound like that [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► it sounds like this and it's a major [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► change like I had a type of have a sense [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► memory or you know like a soul memory [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► cloud town to town I get that I've had [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► the soul memories means what's your [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► biggest soul memory Merlin oh man i had [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► one the other day [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► oh I had one that came out of nowhere [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► iíve spoken periodically about my [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► various best friends in life and from [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► different areas like for example a [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► couple years ago I reconnected with my [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► best friend from first grade on Twitter [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► whoa who as it turns out is the [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► executive producer of many television [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► shows now really I just known as the guy [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► he's the first that god bless you rob [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► hope you're out there [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► I'm not listening he's kinda busy you [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► know you can hit TV shows but he's the [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► first fella with which I competed to see [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► how far we could pee from the urinal [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► that's big [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the first guy you ever do that with you [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► see what's not technically a sword fight [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► and get into that until until college [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► but but seeing how far you can step away [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► from the urinal heavy stream still go so [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► i connect with people sometimes [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► friends but I had a one of my dear old [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► friends was my friend John from MSA when [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► I was 17 when I was 11 or 12 like almost [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► every weekend we were at each others [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► house like sleeping over and he got me [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► into comics got he abused my first [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► person I knew who was really into lord [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► of the rings my uber nerd friend and at [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► one point he got 2 i'm going somewhere [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► with this at one point he got to move in [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► upstairs to your house and his he was [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► there for two seasons and their song [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► always had his hair over his face live [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► in the Attic by the way you by the way [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► check your messages that Justin photos [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► okay um so John got to move from his [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► room on the main floor to up into the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► Attic which isn't you know fairly [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► finished attic it didn't have a bathroom [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► but it had too little of the big bedroom [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► and then a little bedroom also he he was [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► granted the right yeah he got a couple [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► nice accommodations i can tell you about [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► you you're not gonna believe what this [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► guy got but so that was awesome because [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► we got the only to do anything like bad [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► we were like the ultimate good kids we [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► SAT around and talked about the indie or [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► whatever but like but what I really [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► remember is that that's also where they [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► put the cat box and I don't know if you [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► remember cat boxes from the seventies [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► but a cat box from the seventies I can [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► just tell you that somebody who now has [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► a cat with two boxes there damn side [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► away from cat boxes today we were your [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► counters to cat boxes kind of standard [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► now yeah why is it standard is this some [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► kind of this is some kind of thing i'm [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► happy to circle back to it is a life [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► hack [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► it's kind of a life hack he has a cat [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► that's a cataract yet you couldn't [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► believe what happens in extra yeah look [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► at that park is one amazing trick cat [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► boxes could pollute 900 square feet of a [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► thousand square foot apartment [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► oh my goodness i don't know if it's what [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► the cats were eating or drinking I don't [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► know if they were remember their [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► metabolism i think john siracusa would [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► would call it adaptation or aurora blues [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► evolution I'd like the i think it is the [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► quality of litter i think it is the [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► notarizing litoris non scooping nine and [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► so like that the thing is I always did [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► was I was in and this gets the second [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► accommodation that John got later which [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I'd love to tell you about but I was [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► sitting there just for some reason I [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► think about how cool it was I get the [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► John's house [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► I'm a bag we go upstairs we will go up [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► the steps and I just I suddenly got [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► smacked in the face with this was all [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► memory with this sense memory of that [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► cat box and it was nineteen [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► seventy-eight all over again I smelled [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► it I smelled the accurate ammonia can [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► smell so clearly it was its name printed [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► on it it's the canonical cat box in my [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► head is is john scott which was named [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► Blackie they had a cat named blocking a [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► dog Blackie ah understand the dog the [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► dog was scared the cat will chase the [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► dog was the doors course I'm not look [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► good because you're living in a sitcom [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► that done you know my dad's cat was [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► named puppy [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► oh yeah and then when puppy died young [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► mother cat named the puppy 20 see that's [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► a nice story about your dad so adorbs [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► did you look at the photos yeah uh-huh I [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► don't want to look at your going to [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► sleep now [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► I mean you don't sleep you're gonna [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► sleep twice on the one hand you're gonna [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► go holy shit i've watched that show you [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► see each of those shows at least once [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► oh yeah also that's weird but now look [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► at that photo doesn't that look like [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► something from like a japanese horror [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► film [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► well enough and the problem is when i [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► first saw it I was like I don't think I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► had a soul memory but I did have some [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► sense of like oh I knew that but I can't [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► remember knowing it light like I don't I [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► i think i noticed that person before but [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► it would have been 1984 and I don't [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► remember why or what [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► because they never interact with her [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► you're probably you're probably I mean [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► our case it was usually eventually watch [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► them on video but they were I think they [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► want MTV they were all in the u.s. a few [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► years after they were in England and you [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► know we hopped up on mountain dew I [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► should do as you as you do you know you [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► wang right now we're Guy Fieri for young [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► once i have the other day on facebook [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► there's a there are a couple of [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► reporters let's call them reporters [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► votes for the stranger alternative [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► newspaper here in Seattle yeah who are a [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► just young enough that they still well [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► they're not young enough that they can [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► with any right maintain the incredibly [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► arrogant narrow-minded progressivism [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► that they do at the you know like it's a [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► they could if they were 20 you if you [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► might find it believable but they're [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► like 30 and writing the political [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► columns for a local alternative paper [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► and just like durable oh my god they're [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► so awful and one of their surroundings [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► so confident [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► yeah sure you look at them when you're [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► like I wish I was as confident about [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► anything as you are about whatever you [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► think this week [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► yeah and I mean and there they literally [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► like in the newspaper clench their fists [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► and stamp their feet and go man [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► and they're right you know there's some [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► article in the in the paper the other [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► day about how many homelessness is man [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► people are bad people that wear ties [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► irme and and Shawn Nelson posted on his [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► Facebook page and I know for a fact that [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► Sean this is a person as a co-worker of [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► Sean's sean is very gracious about [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► retuning things from his colleagues [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► that's right that's what he does in his [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► role as what is actual tip title there [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► was an editor of he's like this big shot [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► there is the life life editor you know [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► whatever the liberal arts editor [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► somebody posted this without comments [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► and i think or with with the with an [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► oblique comment such that ninety percent [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► of the people could read it and and he [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► would be doing that new yorker thing of [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► like retweeting his colleagues but a few [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► of us recognize that he was retweeting [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► it without comment because he despises [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► this person and a like personally [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► despise them and despises it and and [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► doesn't like working with him and all [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► these and I read the article and it was [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► just like me and so I remember road in [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► the comment you know reading this guy's [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► like reading Rick from the young ones [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► journal [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► haha fascist name and so the guy the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► writer then comments after me because of [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► course right of course [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► sure what is linkedin the article he's [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► like I'm sorry I don't get that [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► reference [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► oh if only there was some way to find [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► out what that reference was I know and [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► so I so I think there are some places [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► you could go and say Rick from the young [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► ones in your mind out what that if only [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► if only he probably doesn't have an [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► Apple watch where you do that because an [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► Apple watch is part of the you know as [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► part of colonialism but in any case MIT [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► so i replied oh don't worry about it [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► it's a reference from the sixties and [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► yeah I felt like that was that was [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► exactly how many laughs that was worth [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► like to has but it was at least I felt [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► good about it its reference from the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► sixties go fuck yourself a break from [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► the young ones I yes you were talking [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► about finding your first grade friend [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► who you tried to pee [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► as far as you could it was a very gentle [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► kind of competition it was almost a [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► journey of self-discovery when men see [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► how far from the urinal they can get [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► it's not really a pissing contest is the [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► ironic part it's more it's a form of [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► bonding really it's not it's funny that [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► it got that term pissing contest but it [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► is really more way of saying let's see [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► what we can do with this business when [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► they're there [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► I've been in there two different kinds [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► of pissing contest i was in there one [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► was with the Catholic priest on the [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► outside wall of the fish bar in in [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► Ketchum Idaho which it with David well [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► regular listeners to show will recognize [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► this as coming from the episode members [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► of a lot of six but and then there was [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► Peter no sec who was able who was taught [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► by his father to be able to pee over his [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► own shoulder that's tremendous which we [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► made how many times you got that wrong [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► he stuck with it [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► yeah right and and Peter and his father [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► I mean neither one of them were [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► especially tall and I think that's an [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► advantage when you're trying to be over [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► your own shoulder but also a lot of [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► stream control and we'd be out somewhere [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► you know drinking [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► beer and shooting guns and we have to go [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► pee and we go over start peeing in the [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► ditch or whatever and then Peter would [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► he do this like pretty cool contortion [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► you drop a shoulder lean back a little [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► bit you know like penis in hand and then [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► just the P would he would just start [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► just directing it over his shoulder and [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► could just [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► oh my god it was a for an [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► eighteen-year-old truly uncomfortable [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► talent I would never have tried it you [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► know there's no way i would would would [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► be able to get away with this sunday [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► night everything that's the kind of [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► thing that if memory serves that's kind [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► of thing that makes you what I will call [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► a local legend [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► yeah like you're not going to appear in [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► journals probably you're not gonna be [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► featured in national magazine but you're [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► going to become that one guy that can do [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► that thing we got to compete over [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► shoulder and Peter had many many of [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► these talents [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► oh god bless him he was a he was a he [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► certainly is remains a legend to me but [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► I would you as you said that I realized [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► that my childhood best friend was a kid [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► named aaron kinnaman and over the years [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► over the last 20 years I have searched [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► for Aaron kinnaman innumerable times [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► trying to have the same experience that [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► you're having of like my first-grade [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► friend that blah blah but I had a lot of [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► experiences with aaron kinnaman who he's [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► got the out there gotta be leaving a [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► trail but he's not [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► and the problem is I don't know how to [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► spell kinnaman oh yeah like they're 14 [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► different possible spellings of cinnamon [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► and I've tried them all and there's just [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► nothing and it astonishes me to be in it [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► in our contemporary life and have an [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► errand kidman is not the only one there [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► is not the only person from my past that [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► I have tried to find on the internet [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► that there's just nothing there's just [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► not a single trace not even those those [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► terrible like white pages that way we [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► can find this person [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► in in you know in this lesson such city [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► yeah so how do you how do you live in [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► the modern world and be completely [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► invisible on the internet i know there [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► are millions and millions billions let's [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► say of people to pull it off but uh but [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► it's still like as somebody who spent a [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► lot of time on 1400 it's hard for me to [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► imagine that even if I wanted to docs [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► Aaron kinnaman I could [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► oh that's frustrating it's very [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► frustrating it's weird because everybody [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► leaves a trail you know that's what when [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► you see this is all like a little bit [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► inside baseball here when somebody shows [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► up on the scene and is being very [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► provocative especially through the shape [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► of being somebody in their twenties one [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► thing you can do in this is not anything [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► your dachshund but it's more like okay [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► so this person purports to be somebody [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► who's in the internet sphere and it's [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► definitely not a stock pot but like you [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► can go out you should be able to find [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► something about them not something just [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► embarrassing but everybody leaves a [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► trail these days of just like some dumb [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► thing you forgot about like you in a [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► talent show you know there's something [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► somewhere in when none of that stuff [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► appears at all it feels weird feels [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► weird and I'm not trying to be creepy [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► but I'm just trying to say like this is [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► just a fact of life that if you're [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► somebody these days you know that's [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► that's something that's a thing but it [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► is strange somebody who's in their [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► forties you can't find anything about [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► Yeah Yeah right like a like well I'm [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► trying to I'm trying to think of i mean [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► ok he doesn't have a linkedin profile he [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► was smart [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► yeah he doesn't have a facebook but like [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► his kids never tagged him in anything [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► yes those kids don't have a I mean it's [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► just it's very frustrating me because [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► there are a few people from my past that [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► I would like to get in contact with and [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► compare that to all the people i am in [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► contact with from my past that I would [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► rather not be in contact with it's just [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► it's very frustrating [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► uh-huh there's an idea to grow in [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► college named latonia wheeler you should [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► be able to find latonia wheeler you [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► should be able to be care and somebody [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► will now John I don't think so my [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► challenge you in [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► boy please don't challenge ok don't know [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► no stop you were you I could hear you [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► internet all sharpening your pencils are [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► getting getting your yellow legal pads [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► out stop get off your virtual pad stop [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► it go back into in animating gifts [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► John's a grandmother was married to a [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► guy for a long time and he passed away [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► and they decided that John's grandmother [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► with a call when they called money she [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► was awesome naughty was going to move in [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► with them so John's dad who is a handy [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► guy and was like a woodworker and a [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► Michigan accent I'm sorry the machinist [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► who worked at one of the great machining [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► plants in Cincinnati all the great [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► machine plants all the great machine [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► play Cincinnati actually since the [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► cincinnati milacron like they made the [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► tools that they made the precision tools [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► that made the precision tools and since [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► any of the tools that made the pursuits [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► of the workshop in it [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► unfortunately that is really went away [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► quite a while ago by all the tools the [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► tools that you did know you need to make [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► all the tools you never knew you needed [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► oh it's in Cincinnati well it's a daddy [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► making all the two easy text I got kind [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► of time making tools and unpacking lots [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► of tools making lots of to do be do be [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► do that show makes no fucking sense [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► without the original music oh my god [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► it's so insane doing right but this is [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► last train coming by the Doobie Brothers [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and it's like really good oh yeah the [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► dx7 with some synthetic food want want [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► want so John's dad is quick set himself [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► to the task of going through their [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► unfinished basement and making an [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► apartment for her how great is this [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► unfinished basement is an incredible [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► album 2 3 4 and so John John's dad made [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► her a beautiful apartment with like a [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► full bath [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► you know with the shower gels for he put [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► in like I don't have the false floor [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► oh you sent to get high like like German [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► bearer bonds [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► no not like a Al Capone false floor was [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► not like a concrete floor is carpeted [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► and whatnot OIC ok you had a big nap too [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► I mean this is you know this is the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► seventies sure was napping so anyway [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► long story short the made this and she [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► lived there for a long time and she [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► helped with the kids and she was awesome [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► and then you know I'm Kenley enough she [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► got married to another guy at our church [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► i can just use sixties she was probably [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► 48 years old that's what's so [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► frustrating [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► she's already a great grandmother was a [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► grandma 51 years only dipped his camels [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► and makers mark uh and so then when she [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► moved out with Jim Beall dr. Beale then [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► John graduated from getting to be in the [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► place upstairs to getting the entire [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► finished basement she had his own [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► apartment inside the house when he was [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► 11 so when he was eleven past this is [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► this is this is when we were pals I went [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► through John having the original room [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► into John having the upstairs room into [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► John graduating down into the room and a [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► ping-pong table be all down there and it [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► was against had his own little house and [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► start inside of the house it was [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► astonishing [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► the thing was we were good kids we were [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► good Christian kids like what we what [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► was like the worst thing we did was [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► watching other people do fireworks one [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► of the kids was really injured a betty [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► was burned he had to wear thing on his [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► neck [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► I this happened to command an apartment [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► in about your own apartment isn't that [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► kind of what this is john hodgman stream [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► right well John Hodgman actually had [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► like a whole half of the house that this [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► but I actually had the same experience [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► like my when my mom moved into her new [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► house when I was in ninth grade right [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► before ninth grade [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► this was the period when she decided [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► that I was so incorrigible that the way [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► she was going to punish me was by making [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► me go live with my father who and so she [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► moved into the new house and there was a [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► bedroom in there that was that should [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► have been my bedroom but she turned it [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► into like the fern room for the sewing [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► room or something and she was like your [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► gift wrapping your gift wrapping give [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► the gift wrapping and that's exactly [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► what it was right just like a bunch of [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► someone with a giant fuck you to [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► somebody in your family to have a room [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► for wrapping presents [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► it's a bedroom in the house and my mom [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► basically climbed into it and said this [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► is my dog crate [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► actually just populated it with all a [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► bunch of moms shit just to say like even [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► if you do move in here and put posters [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► of Porsches on the wall it's never gonna [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► feel like yours because the first thing [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► that was in here was a sewing machine [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► and so I went to live with my dad you [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► know I've told this story [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► yeah but uh but then i moved into that [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► room and then over the course of time [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► like it was just clear that it was that [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► wasn't i needed to be somewhat more [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► sequestered and we had a large basement [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► in this house footprint of an entire [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► floor that was that was a sunken bayer I [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► mean three of the four walls were just [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► were just windowless walls and then the [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► back wall was all windows and and a [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► sliding glass door except it was [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► underneath a covered porch that was on [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the second floor [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► so basically this entire basement never [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► saw the Sun there was daylight coming in [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► from one wall but it was Alaska so in [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► the wintertime that daylight amounted to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► nothing basically you know the sun came [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► up at ten and went down at two so there [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► was no it was dark and then in the style [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► of the seven slate sixties early [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► seventies when they built this place [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► their decision on how to how to hack it [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► out that basement was they panel the [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► walls in unfinished rough sawn wood like [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► a barn so the walls were barnwood which [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► is as as you know is very reflective and [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► really light and cheery know that was [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► sarcasm [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► it's not yeah and and then they built [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► this year like it's like you're living [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► in something that was meant to contain [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► other number [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► yeah right or meant to contain livestock [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► of the end the kind of livestock that is [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► invaluable and then the lighting they up [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► along the walls they built this they [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► built these sort of like how would you [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► describe them [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► they were cantilever little not little [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► enormous light fixtures with that sort [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► of bumpy plastic sheeting inside you [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► know the sort of bumpy translucent [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► sheets of a bumpy plastic I think I know [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► yeah and then each light fixture had [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► four light bulbs in it and there were [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► ten of these light fixtures throughout [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► the basement so 40 lightbulbs going to [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► illuminate this basement and the boxes [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► were also built out of barnwood the [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► light boxes were built at a barn wood [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► with this bumpy translucent plastic such [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► that 40 lightbulbs going at once could [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► not like produce almost no light it [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► still felt like you were here in this [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► sounds like a John McCain jail like you [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► know you were in Batman's layer [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► yeah if a Batman Slayer was made up of [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► it was a barn if Batman's cables a barn [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► something hard place to be cheerful it [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► was pretty do me but it was built in [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► this in the early settler late sixties [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► let's say as a party space so there was [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► a bar with like orange it was like an [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► orange bar with the sink in a [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► refrigerator and a and shelves for [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► glasses and & boos and then around the [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► back there was a sauna and up like a [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► tanning bed in the olds in the old style [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► which is a piece of foam on a on a bench [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► also orange and then two light bulbs of [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► this business pitiless sunlamps yeah [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► tanning bulbs not that mana tanning bed [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► with those neon bulbs but like like yeah [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► red hot red Sun bulbs [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► what were they called and what you're [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► talking about your tanning lamps getting [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► like you would get these things and they [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► were getting credibly hot and they I [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► mean I don't know much about the effects [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► of light spectra on our cells and stuff [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► but they're pretty cancer e yeah they [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► produce [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► ultraviolet light of you get burned real [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► fast on those things one way or another [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► and so there was a sauna and these UV [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► bulbs and what it sounds like somebody's [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► little uh suburban torture dungeon [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► sounds well and to make it to you know [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► took to finish out the other meetups [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► hanging from the signal to finish out [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► the decoration yeah there was a giant a [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► doll sheep head out here hanging on the [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► wall above the television so there was [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► this like there's this and it was a big [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► sheep that had been killed by my mom's [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► boyfriend who's his that was his little [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► bit of addition to the to the decor [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► that's what he does which is just to [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► keep huh [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► so when you were down when you were down [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► in the basement with all 40 lights [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► burning reduce producing the [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► illumination of like mm dusk dusk in a [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► storm just get a sandstorm you would [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► look up and this like dead sheep would [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► be eyeballing you and no matter where [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► you were in the room the sheep was [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► looking at you and at a certain point my [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► mom was like why don't you just live in [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► the basement and so that they put a bed [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► down there [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► thankfully sort of close to the windows [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► so that the so I had a sense of light [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► but that was fine with me like I was a [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► cave dweller anyway and i had my own I [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► never used the sauna [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► no one did it just became a place just [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► to put the christmas wrapping and I [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► never used the tanning bed and I never [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► used the bar for anything but I had this [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► enormous space that was mine that I [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► could you know I could shoot bows and [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► arrows down there it was really educate [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► their knives you absolutely could throw [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► anything like more anything I had a [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► 12-foot long bullwhip and I would sit [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► down there and practice with until I [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► until I hurt myself very badly and then [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► I would hang it in the closet again and [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► say just stop playing the bull weapon [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► please leave it every time you do it you [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► have a really good time for five minutes [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► and then you laugh [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► surrender yourself you're so close to [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► needing an eyepatch you do not know how [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► to use this thing stop playing with it [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► and then I would you know I'd see it [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► again I'd be like move this time I'm [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► gonna get it this time gonna be like [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► done time it's exactly would be able to [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► take a gun out of somebody's hand with [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► and they don't come back in and strikes [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► out now [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► Wow but it was a it was a good and a [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► really good time down there we had [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► that's where we put our IBM pc with 64k [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► sweet a lot of K there's a lot of K i [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► had had you know that's where I would go [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► make out with my first girlfriend but [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► you know I also was I wasn't the type of [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► like nerdy good kid that would watch [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► other people do fireworks but I wasn't [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► down I wasn't having orgies down there [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► anything now my mom one time was [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► wondering why the humidifier didn't work [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► anymore and she opened up the top of the [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► dehumidifier and that didn't work [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► because soup [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► it was full of bottles of booze see she [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► was like this was a good hiding place [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► who you should have just done it just a [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► little bit better so that didn't a for [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► effort John did Miley got an a I didn't [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► affect the operation of the machine was [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► a great idea was the old-fashioned kind [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► of a humidifier that actually LOL oh and [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► up like a puddle of water in the bottom [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► yeah you could sit your liquor bottles [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► in there and keeping cool [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► ah disco wow nice super disco how geez i [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► was very into throwing sharp things i [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► like darts I liked knives sometimes [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► kitchen knives i would take all the [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► kitchen knives and I would see I would [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► try to get the right distance from the [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► wall where we get like you know a couple [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► of turns [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► yeah that was a good feeling and [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► eventually I got into you know throwing [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► star sure construct sure you pick this [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► up at the flea market on sharpen your [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► sharpening yourself and now you could [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► death or sure cans chicken chicken sir [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► did you ever carry shuriken school only [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► my wallet yeah you have loans of me [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► throwing star that you carried in your [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► wallet ya ya later I had a condom i [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► never used but for a time I had the [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► Asher can shape in my wallet and did you [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► to deploy it to the point that no now [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► the better ninjas do not keep their [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► weapons inside of a pouch in their back [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► pocket at least not the primary weapon [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► that might be that might be the one for [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► a few been searched you hope you still [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► have that one like in your sock em but [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► no no no I'm not sure who that was for [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► did you do things like that was clearly [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► for a girl [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► yeah when you pulled your wallet out [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► this is what I pulled out my adam and [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► the ants velcro wall and Asher candidate [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► know this all this here let me let me [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► buy your snow cones through the air bog [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► falls on the graft dog O'Hara yeah you [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► know tell the Chinese character on it [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► so did you think as you're walking [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► around did you pretend as though you [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► were a ninja that was not I was what i [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► would later on get into functional ninja [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► things like mostly running around in [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► people's backyards with a sweatshirt [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► over my head but functional ninja did [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► you ever have the toe shoes [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► no no I didn't go that far we had [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► sweatshirts we had a rubber tracks and [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► later actual nunchucks [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yeah and we would carry things that we [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► imagined a suburban ninja would need one [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► of the things that defines ninja ms [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► sweatshirts ops you look you look at any [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► yes any of the original literature most [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► ninjas wear sweatshirts so we had that [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► and mainly was just about sneaking [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► around at that point yes I can't imagine [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► how many retirees we scared by like [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► running past the air conditioner at nine [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► o'clock [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► oh they probably weren't thinking ninjas [TS]

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00:39:03 ◼   ► supporting rod on the lines they were [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► probably not thinking ninjas [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► no no I i know huh honey did you see [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► that it's Roger it's just those ninjas [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► again it's the ninjas we have nothing to [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► fear no but see this is again this is a [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► thing I add [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► this has come up in some form or fashion [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► before but you know it's a classic [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► American male thing of like for example [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► I never driven a car but i have seen [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► lots of car driving I've seen fast car [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► driving i'm pretty sure I'd be a good [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► fast car driver I've seen so many fight [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► scenes i bet i'd be pretty great fight [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► sure and in this case like I've seen [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► stealthy my ninjas [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► I certainly if there's anything in my [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► grasp I could be a stealthy ninja i to [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► myself stealthy ninja [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► yes yes I spent a lot of time there were [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► things that Sidewalk home from school [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► and I spent a lot of time fantasizing [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► during the walk home you had your key on [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► a red string happy on red string walking [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► home from school and part of the reason [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► I walked home from school I mean there [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► was a bus but you take the bus and then [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► what would you do you just be home and I [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► wasn't somebody that went home and read [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► comic books or play video games yet get [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► a special projects [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► yeah I would sit at home and just I [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► would stare at the wall if I was at home [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► so why not walk home [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► it would take me an hour or so to walk [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► and I would fantasize the entire way [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► home just just in a state of total dream [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► place right where the the actual like I [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► was perceiving the world outside i was [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► looking at things also but in my mind it [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► was I was far far away and early on one [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► of the things I one of my fantasies was [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► that i lived in a Richie Rich world how [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► I've had that fantasy where I was a very [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► wealthy boy and and I had a bunch of [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► adult things that were scaled-down Allah [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► Bugsy Malone [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► alright so i had a rolls-royce but it [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► was a half-scale rolls-royce silver [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► shadow but it was a half-scale [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► rolls-royce silver shadow so rather than [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► having to walk home I would drive myself [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► home in my imaginarium in my half-size [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► rolls-royce silver shadow now it i would [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► I i'm picturing myself driving this [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► rolls-royce silver shadow on the bike [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► paths of anchorage alaska right out the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► fantasy doesn't extend to that I'm [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► living in Monaco that's not possible [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► it's not plausible but it's been hearing [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► scenario you can very easily place that [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► there's all kinds of ways for young [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► person to feel fancy in their head [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► that's right that seems weirdly possible [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► when I see a rolls-royce silver shadow [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► on the road now and most of them only [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► exist as wedding cars anymore but I [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► still picture myself in it and picture [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► both me and the car is being about like [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► three quarter scale i'd love to see that [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► but then I got introduced to lord of the [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► rings as we all do about you know I [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► think even now if you get introduced to [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► lord rings for the first time it [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► immediately transported in 1980 least [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► that's how intelligent like I mean in [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► John's case and you know I i we talking [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► about here we talked about talked about [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► for siracusa it sounds like it's [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► something that somehow most guys who [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► didn't even self identifies a geek or [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► whatever but you discover usually around [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► middle school junior high like late late [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► elementary school middle school junior I [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► that right I'm seventh grade for me and [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► then I was then the concept of all of [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► that and and and lower the Rings and D&D [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► came together for me as as they should [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► as a package deal and then I spent the [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► entire time walking home from school [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► contouring spells [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► oh this is the conjuring era was [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► conjuring spills who misses this is this [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► along that is I'm sorry to interrupt but [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► was later on you and attempt to actually [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► contour that's a little later right [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► little later yeah this was just the [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► beginning of like oh and also also like [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► when I was little kid and people in [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► seattle talked about underground Seattle [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► which is a neighborhood in the on the [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► first avenue that they raised the level [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► of the streets at one point during one [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► of their many redevelopment of downtown [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► and in raising the level of the streets [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► they just they just covered over the [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► first floor of shops and stuff downtown [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► and just decided that now the second [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► floor of buildings were going to be the [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► first floor they get that in Chicago [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► know when they when they wanted to what [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► they had like plumbing or they added [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► like a whole like septic or sewer system [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► and they raised Chicago like a story [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► they raise it up residence in Anchorage [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► during the 64 earthquake and other [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► he's actually fell a story so that they [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► had to authenticate you know they call [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► pancaking here yeah that's not good [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► pancakes bad but the buildings were [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► destroyed they just dropped one story [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► that so the front door of the building [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► alex mica yeah yeah long and they just [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► cut new doors like pretty crazy but [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► people in seattle talk about underground [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► seattle when I was six or seven years [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► old I imagine that that meant that any [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► time you dug in the ground anywhere in [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► Seattle there was a city under there was [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► like a second Seattle underneath where [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► you are you just know how to get there [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► if you know how to get there we duck who [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► does a lot of holes looking for the roof [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► lines of underground seattle but by the [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► time I was in junior high of course I [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► knew there weren't city's underground [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► but I did suspect there might be [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► dungeons room right if you could just [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► find the entrance to the dungeons that [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► were I mean I'd sound like a dumb [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► seventh-grader I wasn't you don't but I [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► mean think about it like he got to the [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► point where you have a city that can [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► sustain she even to of chucky cheese [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► restaurant you have to imagine that [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► somebody had the forethought to put a [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► dungeon in like there's so many many [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► cool things that we hopefully were made [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► i'm guessing probably in the eighteen [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► hundreds that need attention right well [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► but there weren't there [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► 1800 didn't play in Anchorage because [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► there was no 1800 language okay but you [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► know what I still think about my own [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► house and how expensive it would be to [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► retro actively install a dungeon or you [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► didn't want titles for awhile tunnels in [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► dungeons and like all my uncle I don't [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► wanna talk about it anymore understand [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► but uh you know i'm not talking about [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► shipping containers be ready in the [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► desert dungeon I'm talking about like [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► stonewalled dunno you're not like that [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► like 12 year old girl in a reader's [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► digest article not know about that kind [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► of thing not back with a pipe marina [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► heroin know that is harrowing I don't [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► think about that you make a sexy [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► attention haha there be a second [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► component today let there be other would [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► be you know there be a derby safes down [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► there and stuff you know it be full US [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► agency say it would be safe it would [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► probably be comfortable [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► well no but I mean safe there were no [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► I'm sorry I mean I might have a problem [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► sometimes of using words but it would [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► probably be it would be a a secure [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► location [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► that's right better put and I bet you [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► could make it comfortable i would be [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► very can be made a barn barn number I'd [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► be so comfortable down there really i [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► would everyone so I am doing is if you [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► ring the doorbell it would flash a light [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► downstairs and then I would then i'd go [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► on the closed-circuit TV and I would [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► look at you and be decided to pull the [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► track towards redhead make a decision [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► then but I never had any ninja I had [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► never had any affection for ninja dhum [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► and I don't know whether it's because I [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► i was introduced to Bruce leave the same [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► way that other people were like you [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► certainly he was around in my childhood [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► all the sort of come from fighting was [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► all there [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► it just never I never identified I can [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► tell you why this work [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► so here we're talking about the very [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► early eighties ninjas were still cool [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► ninjas were still a new-ish idea i think [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► america got burned out on ninjas there's [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► too many fucking ninjas today they're [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► were they're moving they're literally [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► they're ruining TV shows that are on TV [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► right now there's too many inches [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► you're telling me they're ninjas on TV [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► right now they're ruining TV shows [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► here's the thing ninja I mean there's [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► people who have like I think is [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► published theories about this the more [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► ninjas that you add to something less [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► interesting it gets you need one ninja [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► that you almost never see that's cool [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► it's sort of like the fifth roommate get [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► off tonight I'm look at this photo right [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► now is completely freaking your roommate [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► is a ninja your TV shows more interested [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► in this is why this is why i sought i [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► would want to be a monk like monks were [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► the coolest monk shout like well like [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► you know like in D&D like the character [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► class because among could do stuff they [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► had the vibrating palm they could go [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► down I think they could fall four feet [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► per level remember what's what good is [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► vibrating bomb right you don't get the [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► vibe [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► well alright easy but you can do stuff [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► you can do all kinds of stuff it was it [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► was sort of like what was it was like it [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► was part lot of fighter maybe some [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► clerical there's a lot of dexterity and [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► one of the cool thing was if memory [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► serves forgive me please don't hit me on [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► this I'm pretty sure you could fall four [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► feet per level by like bouncing off the [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► wall [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► nuttin monks were the coolest that [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► doesn't seem that cool [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► why would I want cool i want to fall [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► four feet 44 level if I could cast if I [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► could come [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► norb mmm i think im gonna rest it's like [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► here's you cannot rest until you're [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► resting within its gotta got like a big [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► trouble in little china style electric [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► or hovering above his hand and the other [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► guy's palm is vibrating all right and [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► he's falling it doesn't have the same [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► visual appeal [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► I I admit but it just seems like you [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► guys on the campaign was always having [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► to take a nap [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► especially the lower level there's a lot [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► of napping for the magic people but i'm [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► not opposed to have not posted napping [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► as long as there's somebody watching [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► over so you're you're walking i would [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► also like at some point to get back to [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► secret spaces because as recently as [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► last night I had a dream about a secret [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► space i dream about them constantly I [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► think about secret spaces a lot but you [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► were walking down the path the bike path [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► in your in your three quarter size of [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► rolls-royce little eventually you were [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► thinking about conjuring things I was [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► as Ben you know that this is the thing [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► about junior high [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► you're not thinking at all the way [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► through but I was pretty sure that was [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► the way to be successful with girls [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► if i could i mean think about it I i [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► like you i still continue not thinking [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► all the way through [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► you don't have to sell me on this maybe [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► i'm standing on all school dance [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► yeah on come one guy does the fucking [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► car trick the cars just keep coming out [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► of his sleeves that's pretty cool where [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► these cars coming back and he's gonna [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► card rid of the cards and that's exactly [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► what i mean i'm leaning against the wall [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► and one cardini here comes here comes [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► the devos working in a coal mine and I [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► like Johnson but John make that over the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► cool wall go out on the dance floor [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► am I going down and I'm my god i wish i [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► could go dance with the girls more heart [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► if I was over there just like oh by the [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► wow wow like who would be dancing with [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► these guys [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► nobody better on your own private divo [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► ii like people like people be taking [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► know and then we're all these cards [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► coming from and pretty soon I'd be like [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► the king of God be between the scene [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► fans and fans just coming obviously he [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► can't get rid of them the one part i [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► check it out his name's cardini I'd yeah [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► people are gonna know what we're talking [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► about because they don't hear our [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► private conversations are talking about [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► the the great the Great card artist [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► cardini I go to throw my cigarette away [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► there's a cigarette in my mouth is a [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► cigarette again and then what these cars [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► keeps a perfect fan of cards is produced [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► he can't get rid of the cards they just [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► keep coming out rozum away and then [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► they're back again you know he was [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► married to that lady [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► yes I didn't know that yeah and she wore [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► a bellhop outfit she tempted like it if [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► i can find that I didn't see that when i [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► was 12 i can find one that will wear [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► bellhop out but I be married service who [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► would stand there with the with the [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► wastebasket why through cards into it i [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► get rid of these cars are never certain [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► images there is a mile [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► she just has a like a chest higher smile [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► and then [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► just picking up to 10 with the cool [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► parties should never get sick of it [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► she's still think you're so interesting [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► because of your card sleeves [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► yep what whop omn orb close this is also [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► a particular story this is another boy [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► pattern is that like I'm pretty sure [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► there's this one thing that if I got [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► really good at this [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► everything would fall in place maybe [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► something that's an engine for some [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► people that's an orb what is why there [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► are guitar player yeah snatching the [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► coins mention the coins off your elbow [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► right there's so many things out there [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► we are like if I could just master this [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► one thing i do this in mind Frank was [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► walking around this tennis racket [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► I get out there I produce some cards out [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► of my sleeve and get more tail than [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► Sinatra did you did you ever do any [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► cigarette tricks my cigarette tricks [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► were very modest i would do match tricks [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► I could do some match tricks I could do [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► some very minor like first-level zippo [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► tricks have almost first-level zippo [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► tricks are good just just the whole like [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► this thing look like your fingers and [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► you open it with the thing you know oh [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► yeah this snap listen two fingers on [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► making I'm making sort of like a bowling [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► ball gesture with my finger your thumbs [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► on the bottom zippo and you you make it [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► pop it and make that noise you kind of [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► smell good and they smell good [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► well you know I curators before a long [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► time travel collection that's one of the [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► few collections I've ever had [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► oh you have like Vietnam suppose no i [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► didn't have like death suppose or [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► anything i have a Kiwanis mo had a [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► Chesterfield cigarettes ippo water's [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► ripple i told you that i want a story [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► yeah you do but it's I'm gonna hear when [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► you're ready to become a man you let me [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► know is what the guy said to me when he [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► saw Michael wanna zippo while when [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► you're ready to become a male come well [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► with you know I've discovered over the [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► course of this program that we have a [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► lot of listeners who are actually [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► Mason's kindly allowed to tell us that [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► John I think they are because they as [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► they have reminded me many many times [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► there is not admitting the Masonic a [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► brotherhood is not actually a secret [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► organization they are they are more than [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► happy to explain almost everything about [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► Mason durham Wow with the addenda that [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► i'm not actually use their last name [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► when referring to them it's like naaa [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► oh well it's just like they don't want [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► to hear from somebody else in their [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► Lodge [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► Oh [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► ok it's been a little bit like when [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► you're reporting you got on record you [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► got off the record you got background [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and you got deep background on the [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► record is you can say that John Roderick [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► said this [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► yeah like off the record is you can say [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► somebody who is highly or like you can [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► use this information but you can't say [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► who did it [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► background I think you can only say [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► stuff like somebody highly placed in the [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► broader group said this deep background [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► is you can only use this information to [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► find other information i'm very [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► interested in deep background [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► yeah deep background is good I don't [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► happen as far as the Masons that I know [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► which is not not a small handful of [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► Mason's distributed across the country [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► in the world who contact me every time [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► we talk about a syndrome boy and say as [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► I've said before we are not a secret [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► organization I'd be happy to walk you [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► through the steps let me explain again [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► things that you can google about our [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► fraternal organization that those many [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► helps the service it they always point [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► to the service organization part and the [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► fact that they wear a elaborate costumes [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► is just part of the fun [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► schreiner is never taller than when he [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► Stoops to help a crippled child [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► wow I don't know or when he pleased to [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► have that printed on small car [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► ok ok believe me i would see those [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► nobody i would see those in the I would [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► look pretty smart driving around one of [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► those i wonder if any of our listeners [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► Shriners these even still exists right [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► this is the thing I'm sure it exists but [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► like I said I time so I still think of [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► that as something my grandfather is he [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► was a freemason [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► yeah and he was a Shriner he was in [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► schools and scottish rite he's scottish [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► rite and he was a Shriner and he was [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► pretty into it [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► oh yeah there's one about as he had the [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► bolo tie he had it going on [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► you didn't have the small car though not [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► that I ever saw he passed when I was [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► fairly young I there might have been a [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► car that was in the estate I just never [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► saw it I thought I think when you pass [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► as a Shriner I think the car is it sent [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► to the next young guy who killed your [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► time I think buried in the car [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► actually I comically my grandfather's [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► funeral was grotesque because first of [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► all they did a pretty crap job on his [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► makeup so so he looked like he'd [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► had some kind of like like bad plastic [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► surgery and then he had the scottish [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► rite funeral so they put all this stuff [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► in the coffin we were there we got to [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► see the stuff they put in the coffin [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► there's a whole thing that give you an [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► apron and gave me a magic wand maybe [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► some exploding cigarettes i'm not sure [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► but there's a whole bunch of stuff they [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► put in the casket with you to go to your [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► reward [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► tell me more about that yeah that's all [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► I don't remember super was pretty sad [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► when he died [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► what was the what was the number one [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► thing you saw in his casket that may do [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► ok so far it's crazy i was 12 but also i [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► don't think we were actively encouraged [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► to be super involved in that part of it [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► it was like they got the last bite at [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► the Apple before they close the lid and [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► so I don't know what went in there there [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► there could i I don't think there's a [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► whole car but they you know it's like [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► they were pending might imagine locks [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► they were pounding their seal wings into [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► his coffin [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► mmm yeah so he was pretty into that [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► yeah I i assume that it's still around i [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► guess you're gonna find out people you [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► can write a letter to John if you would [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► like to talk about friends and no no I [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► know I know plenty about Freemasonry and [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► I have a good sense of the members of [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► our community Mason is blind extend our [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► extended family includes many Mason's [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► I've been school some momentum as the [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► razor Mason's but the oh and we made it [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► we made a terrible mistake about about [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► the knights of columbus and that I was [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► corrected on that very intelligently I [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► didn't but well no you didn't but I did [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► there there there there a Catholic group [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► there's nothing lead over to you and [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► here's the problem you and I sometimes [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► understanding very understand something [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► very well in life and in our head and [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► then somehow we each manage to say the [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► exact opposite of what the true thing is [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► that we improving though we know better [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► because we have a kind of intellectual [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► dyslexia [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► yes and yes and or and yes I know but [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► but so far i have never been Shriners [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► planed and I wasn't bad so I don't want [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► to hear about masonry again because I'm [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► very up on it but i do want to hear [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► about Shriners Frank yes is my guess is [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► i think it is like all these groups it [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► is is presented as a public service [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► organization which is smart [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► I think I think you have to be [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► introduced to the group like sponsored [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► if you like again like AAA yeah and then [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► then you probably do a lot of scut work [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► for a while [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► you gotta like I don't know a couple [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► cigars wash cars i bet there stuff where [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► there's a hazing period maybe I know [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► there's a lot of spanking and they act [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► like the blindfold jacqueline three off [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► a cliff that's the Masons right [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► my mom is banking my mom well here's [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► what my mom said my mom so here my mom [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► loves all people to the same degree [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► which is to say not very much [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► yeah but she both my mom and my dad I've [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► said this before [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► neither one of them they were they were [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► the two least racist people I've ever [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► met in my life they have no they had no [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► a they saw no color at a time when that [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► was very unusual but my mom was racist [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► against two groups of people hillbillies [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► we've talked about this a lot she's [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► still races to conceal Billy's liquid [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► supposed to eat it because well that's [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► how she described that's where she's [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► from yeah she's from she's like you [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► think you and you don't know from rural [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► ohio and 1604 see you don't know for [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► ohio and if you cross the if you cross [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► the border of of one County and go into [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► the other County you're now in hillbilly [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► country and she hates them [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► she hates them shapes them so [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► passionately she says things all the [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► time like we never should've bought the [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► Civil War we should let the South secede [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► and they would be a third world country [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► we would destroy them in war and I'm [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► like okay mom [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► it's a term that she still uses [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► disparagingly about look at those [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► hillbilly's over there [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► I know she won't do that but like Trump [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► culture of she's just like we should let [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► them succeed and then we would destroy [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► them in war not like later we should let [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► them build their own economy we should [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► have let them keep their evil practice [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► it's good it's like Muhammad Ali in the [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► rope-a-dope be like let them wear [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► themselves out and then BOOM [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► well yeah she was like that whole that [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► whole week we fought the war the wrong [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► time I guess it's a philosophy like the [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► whole states rights garbage and keep the [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► Union together we should have ignored [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► that whole thing and fought the actual [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► war about slavery [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► later and then defeated the south and [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► salted the earth [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► I'm like hey hey hey hey Sherman's march [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► like cool your jets it like this is not [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► a thing that we still talk about like oh [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► it's a thing I still talk about so she [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► doesn't so she's raced against him [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► because she's like the opposite of a way [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► of Faulkner character sheets so she's [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► forgotten but she's not forgotten [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► something very different [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► no she's so north and she says things [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► all the time like this is this is the [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► crazy thing like she sometimes talks [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► about Bonaparte like the Frenchman yeah [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► Napoleon we all call them we all called [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► him Napoleon but she still talks about [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► Bonaparte in a way that has been [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► transmitted through the generations of [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► her family from a time when they over [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► when he was a living person and they had [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► a nickname for him and he represented a [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► certain idea of like internationalism [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► aunty aunty British Empire ism like [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► she'll chill refer to Bonaparte wow i'm [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► like punk apart the way like people in [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► you know the early 20th century would [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► refer to Germans the Huns well yeah or [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► like it had this implication of not just [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► identifying your ethnic or geographic [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► background but something about your [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► character [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► it's absolutely about his character and [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► she she refers to him familiar [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► familiarly as though we would say like [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► Oh Bush you know or bush to or whatever [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► she's like well Bonaparte would have [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► blah blah blah [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► Wow Bonaparte on apart but a so she has [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► several of those things and some of them [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► seem like they have been translated [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► through the quicker side of her family [TS]