00:00:08 ◼ ► I'm Merlin how's it going so good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/8">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► SuperDuper super mm-hmm a different day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/12">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► yeah right it's not it's not too early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/20">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► oh it is just what it is I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► that can't be true I'm treating myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► today to add this new thing i'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► called the taste of my youth when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► and I revisit case of my youth so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► now I'm having a a 6 ounce can of dole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/39">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► mmm god is good all from concentrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► yeah right no comes in a can see no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► is that something that you you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► this is the my Madeline mighty is a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► gym class in tenth grade we had a drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► dispenser you know i got like a pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► machine but it dispensed juice and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► was this brain was called Bluebird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► Bluebird orange juice which I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► heard of anywhere else and was orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► juice that mostly tastes like pineapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/79">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► and I always enjoyed it but I think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► pineapple aspect to it well that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► thing what is a pineapple concentrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► move move move I never thought of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► yeah sure you take a bunch of orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► well this is what God did ya oranges was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► the fourth day third day and scrunched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► it scrunch it into an armadillo he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► goes it goes into the pineapple yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► then took a cactus and stuck it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► armadillos but I learned so much from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► yeah well that's the thing about science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► I think pineapples like like people & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► gorilla suits quicksand I think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► well you know in the seventies I spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► lot of time in hawaii as we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► about probably either many times or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► Never and in hawaii in the seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/126">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► there were pineapple fields as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/132">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► fields forever it was by him fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► forever living was easy with eyes closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► and it was like one of the great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► about going to Hawaii it was sugar cane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► and pineapples this kind of this i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► their plantations but but it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► part of the culture there and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► that stuff is gone now you go to Y in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► there no there's no sugarcane there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► no pineapples really really because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► just so much cheaper to grow that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► elsewhere you know in China or well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► don't think they grow pineapples and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► well they will but not getting enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► they found you know dole pineapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► conglomerate inc gbh who found enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/177">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► places in Central and South America i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► think in Africa probably where they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► set out what we'll just we'll grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► pineapples here and now those a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► those fields and why are either fallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/194">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► it's kinda weird to go there and not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► that stuff and I don't even understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► why they just didn't let the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► pineapples grow wild although i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► know what wild pineapples like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► that this is an interesting thing it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► digital turns out because for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► time we we heard about talked about peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► oil and we be talking about the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► that there would be a point when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► would reach more than fifty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► the oil that could be gotten from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► earth and then after that point it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/228">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► basically paraphrasing what's-his-name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► counselor but great look but the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► that like this little hustler magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► represent our i was injured his legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► career back on select yeah good old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► counselor Cody look with the glasses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► the glasses on top of his head and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► the third pair of glasses yeah the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► let's go look at but you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► read that stuff which I found very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► absorbing in the 2,000 there's the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► that so well setting aside slavery so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► much of what happens in America in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► last hundred fifty at least years is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► on incredibly cheap energy that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► don't mean just the idea that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/272">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► we could not you cannot have walmart be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► walmart without ships running on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► know relatively cheap fuel and so must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/279">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► actually i'm reading a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► walmart so i kind of have walmart on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► brain right now but that's changed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► walmart has become extremely interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/288">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► in environmental sustainability not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► least because it's cheaper now and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► but then the fuel prices went down so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► like like what happens i mean there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► our economy going to get all wackadoodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► just continue to be wackadoodle based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► these kinds of prices of fuel and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► how could you not get pineapple from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► way that just seems weird i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► if this question here i'm just i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► concerned i think that i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► expensive in Hawaii and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► more regulation in Hawaii because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► America and you know grand land is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► expensive and got increasingly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► expensive and it's just you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► you're talking about a multinational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► corporation that's like how do we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► how do we make 10 million pineapples as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► cheaply as we possibly can and and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► fuel prices are low and we can fill up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► that's my drinking and true when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► know because it's already expensive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► get pineapples from Hawaii to anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► yeah it's not that much more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► to get them from nicaragua or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► probably from Nigeria I don't know I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► know I keep throwing these I'm look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► know I'm looking right now he's on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► own we're going pineapples room but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► you need you need water you need hot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► can have high and you needed any ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► different beans and then Brazil as of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► 2013 costa rica produces 2.7 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► tons of pineapple a year huh lot of tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► of pineapple yeah it looks like it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► Philippines Brazil costa rica i found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► hawaii a I i was i was not a good match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► for a way i like the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► pronounced hawaii hawaii hawaii you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► we we west coasters for a long time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► we angle sighs everything why Hawaii why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► but you you put that little extra like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► Hawaii life into the patchouli sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/406">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► so you went to hawaii hawaii and did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► you didn't you didn't bond with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► well here's the thing first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► think you know this about me sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► mhm and slightly separate from that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/425">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► acclimate er I don't always acclimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► well or quickly like you seem like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► kind of guy you got a bag you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► plane you go somewhere and like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► already part of the culture here you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► it try but like it takes me awhile to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► get into I've gotten better over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► years but there was a time when we take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► me like three days to enjoy anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► uh-huh just shake off the like change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah but I mean why else ye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► also i felt very very foreign not least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► because the people of Hawaii um don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► love people coming there it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► understandable it's not the warmest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► welcome and also I didn't like the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► i couldn't get with the food i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► you're either the kind of person it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► like Scottish food either all about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► you're like I can't believe this is food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► yeah I couldn't shave ice in the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► I but that's right up your alley oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► what's wonderful a about Hawaiian food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► is it really is kind of a like made out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/489">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► of the worst elements of like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► different kinds of food right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► the worst kind of japanese food and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► worst kind of portuguese food hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► worst sort of american food and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► it right a pile of rice with breaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/505">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► mhm with a fried egg covered in gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► no you know what i should give another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► try up where I was just like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► thing and they're like oh yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► called loco moco I've been that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► feeling loco moco mhm but Hawaii doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/524">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► feel foreign to me because we went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► what were you why are you going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► like remind me well because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► seventies the forty-ninth and fiftieth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► states had a very special relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► because right Alaska entered the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► states in 1959 and hawaii in 1960 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► they came in and I don't know in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► I always imagined they came in on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► same time bill know there-there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► brief period where there was a where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► they made flags us flags with 49 stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► I don't think it was for very long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► it might we might have even been in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► pit with in 1959 to buy but there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► brief period where there were the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► I don't you you can double-check this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► but but uh so you know by nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► seventy what both both places had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► US states for 10 years and it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► it was also very exotic I mean Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► like do you think about why 50 or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► it was like us it was from my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► childhood that was the idyllic location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Sherman my mother's entire life she all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► she ever not all she wanted but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► really wanted to go on a vacation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► Hawaii it was one of those things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► yeah sure you get a vacation to Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► exactly right it just just the just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► term has all this all the smell of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► colitas rising up through the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► I don't think they have colinas there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► have that I've all sort of colitas yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► i know that's that's painful and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► information i'm alright thank you thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► for thanks for asking but when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► about magnum p.i that you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► only 20 years after why I became a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► well you less than that right so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► still very much like new new turf and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► anyway all by way of saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► alaska airlines and hawaiian airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/644">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► newish carriers that were making a play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► to be bigger than just regional airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► they had this like a hundred dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► ticket hundred-dollar reciprocal ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► Anchorage to Honolulu damn and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► that's crazy and this understand now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► the youngsters for the millenniums my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► name's don't know from travel it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► be you were not going to go anywhere for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► less than seven hundred thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► he's welfare expensive to fly it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► ended up in Alaska was you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► such a different animal and it was hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► because alaska airlines had these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► a hundred-dollar tickets that were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► river they had a hundred dollar ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► at one point when I graduate from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► school ask airlines gave every scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► every graduating senior in Alaska a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► ticket to anywhere in Alaska chimney and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► so you could use this ticket to go visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► somewhere like a barrow or Unalakleet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/712">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► otherwise go right you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► go to Unalakleet for probably as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► your job but if you got a free ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► why not go there and so all I left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► Alaska immediately after graduating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► I didn't come back until after my free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► ticket to anywhere in Alaska had expired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► but all of my friends my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► friends all got together and flew to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► Kodiak which is like okay that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► exactly the most exotic place to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► Kodiak you find out where they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► well you write or find out where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► use the snow and they went down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► Kodiak and they already had some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► hotel room not nice hotel room I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► there i don't think there are any nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► hotel rooms and Cody actually they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► hotel rooms in some shitty hotel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► they SAT and drank here you know drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► like a keystone and inept Keystone then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► it would have been Stroh's Frank Stroh's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► in their old shitty hotel room wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► trained outside for three days and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► they flew home and I was like that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► waste and they were like yeah it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► it could have gone anywhere you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► gnome yeah how many times you gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► in your life you want to know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► know I mean maybe maybe two maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► yeah 22 plus probably zero but maybe two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/800">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► I don't think i'm gonna say seven but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► went to hawaii all the time because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► this hundred dollar ticket and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► direct flight Anchorage Honolulu so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► just like you didn't even have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► America damn and Hawaiians came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► Alaska and at the time like a Waikiki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► still had most of the stuff on Waikiki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► was still like grass roof like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/822">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► know like little little shacks with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► windows that were bars and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► those little Tiki lanterns out front you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► know the streets kind of if you want if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► you want five or six blocks off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► waikiki you know the streets would kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► I mean it was very still just like felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► like a small town they're obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► there were no the royal hawaiian was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► there they were that big Hilton was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► there there were some hotels along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/854">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► strip but if you got if you got down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► road a little ways it was just beer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/861">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► know it was so hawaii and so chill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/866">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► hostility to outsiders because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/872">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► contained you know it was like yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► you came to why you went to hear but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► didn't go if you we went to my way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► then and it was now it was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► because all is all if memory serves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► was always Honolulu and Waikiki and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► he was like even in the late seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► now he was the hidden gem like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► really want to go to Hawaii gotta go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► Malik's nobody threw into yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► streets were dirt for most of most of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► on Maui had little little towns right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► you drive in and it's just a little it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► like a little town kind of carved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► out of the out of the wild and oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► it felt like a it felt like it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► was it was a paradisiacal who and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/916">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► you know me as a constant traffic jam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► it's still incredible don't get me wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► that's why we went to we went to Kauai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► Hawaii yeah which seems like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► like a few outposts around the rim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/931">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► experience of of Native Hawaiians being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► like less than aloha about you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► me wrong now I mean in the same position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► well you know who knows but they but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► they probably now increasingly I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► everybody there feels encroached upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► even the you know even the Howley's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/955">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► have been there 15 years feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► they're the OG Holly's and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► want a new Howley's that's just the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► know that's true very this is true at as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► do I know a person that lives anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► in the world who isn't mad about new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► no no decisions have been there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► couple nights you're entitled to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I'm trying to think I read something the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► other day oh it was an article about New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► Zealand saying that there were all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► towns in New Zealand that were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► encouraging people to move there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► think that they are like the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► the show old sheep farming towns kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► like I think I feel like there are towns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► in Nebraska and Kansas that everyone all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► the young people have moved away and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► not entirely sure whether the residents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► of those towns are encouraging people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► move there as much as they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► surrendering their just like taking deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► breaths of their oxygen machines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► hoping that the Lord comes soon but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► right at in New Zealand I feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► lot of i read this whole article about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► like they're in currently actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► incentivizing people to move to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► just because because they're losing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► know and then the end and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► pictures of these places they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► idyllic but anybody that's read a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► estate magazine knows that you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► can take a pretty good picture of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► sure but yeah maybe that's the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► maybe maybe maybe maybe we should move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► to New Zealand in New Zealand flight i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► have used in the New Zealand i'm here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► tell you it took me uh maybe 48 hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► seriously contemplate moving there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► did you did you go as a result of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► sort of thing where they had some tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► thing where they wanted you to come talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► about their inboxes it something I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► you go did you take all 43 folders there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► so tired attack now I went there for a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► really cool conference and I did talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► and I cried onstage and long people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► liked it it's kind of one of my famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► talks and but I you know you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► hard to tell until you've been somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► two or three times it's hard to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► make any kind of a saying reckoning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► what's happening there but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► somewhere you get a vibe and the vibe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► I mean first I mean the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► primary things is that people there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► unknowingly and ironically friendly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► kind unknowingly friendly and kind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► people are nice they're not nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► like an annoying way there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► neighborly in some ways but not in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► in-your-face way second like at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► every cup of coffee i had there at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► mcdonalds I had their the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► that I had there was like just about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it takes some fucking 20 minutes to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► a cup of coffee and new zealand no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► maddening it's mostly copy this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► I got into espresso because they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► espresso drinks there but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► craftsmanship of what people do there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► really palpable and and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► like the same one again this unit I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► nice people and a lot of civic pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► that's this not annoying America is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► a lot of countries but it's like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► somewhere like you're walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► Canada and everybody's got a papi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► because its remembrance day that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► really nice and it's not to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► know have something to put on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► it's because that's what people always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► do there you go there you go there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► like you know what you get for she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► best she's ever gotten you know America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► has ruined civic pride for America to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► write me I used to put and I still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► of try like to pep civic pride and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► she can get it sometimes you go watch go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► back to watch the video of Whitney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Houston singing the star-spangled banner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► at that super bowl i'll still give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► yeah I feel like yeah America I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► say that shit I said that yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► it's a great experience we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► trying yay american educator store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► yeah USA but then you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► somebody like an throws a can of school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► at me and then feel like I donk I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► you know this is what I was just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► that nothing to do with guns for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► love of Christ how I know I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► I I with the twitter in particular you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► know you I know you're on the facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► i'm not on the facebook twitter like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► feel so inoculated because I don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► much outside my circle but then when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► do I'm just I'm stunned I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► part of my brain that likes to think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► anti-immigrant that whole cluster I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► to imagine that that is still the fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► I'm not persuaded that that is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► of the fringe as it used to be and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► kinda everywhere and it's awful and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► they're like they're like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► science fiction creature where they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► go find they find people with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► heart and try to try to destroy them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► through and through school after school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► yeah I mean there's millions of millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► and millions of people that that share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► that that cloud of ideology so much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► that i'm i'm intrigued now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► liberal media if you will hurl our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► rather let me call it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► intelligence of the thinkers are step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► progressive thought leaders progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► to write think pieces and I know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► feel about think pieces and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► feel about things I loved the think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► piece boy you know what couldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► you know paper the ground with think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► pieces when I say a direction at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► for three hours here's what I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► that but there are now increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► those think pieces it's sort of atlantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► magazine style long-form articles saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► wait a minute if a hundred million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► Americans share a cosmology in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► these ideas you know these these uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► these ideas are like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► foundational underpinning of a worldview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► yeah i mean where it's not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► people tolerate quietly like certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► kinds of racism in the past things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► tolerated it something that helps people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► bond together people who formerly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► seemingly nothing in common and what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► thought of as civil discourse there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► people who are finding common cause with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► other people that in a way it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► mind-blowing well and I think a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► lot of those cases right the what we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► as the as the like overt deal killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► racism implied in what in a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► gets said they see as like I rolling Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► unimportant small are racism that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► should just get over because base what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► they're seeing in some of that action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► and some of those theories some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► philosophies is something else and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► of and the liberal side stops at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► racism wall and says whatever's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► other side of this i'm not interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► because the because the racism in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► inherent in it like blocks me from going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► further into this idea and the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► hundred million people who are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► get through that wall who live on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► other side of that wall are like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► racism racism but X or Y and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► so many of those so many of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► different languages right with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► gun right stuff where you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► from the left we have just arrived at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► place where it's like if you speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► i I just I stopped at that fence because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► that because on the other side of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► fence i expect to hear rationalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► and justification for machine-gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► killings of kids in schools and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► hundred million people on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► of that fence like yeah I got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► like guns symbolize and represent this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► other stuff and they just sort of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► there's this I rolling about the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► that matter to either side of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► that end I think that there is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► what we do cast one another in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► exaggerated possible role that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► think as an antagonist you know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► I was i I am on Facebook unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► because I because I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► it gives me as much it gives me as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► pause as as Twitter does because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► know I'm I don't curate either thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► very well and so I just get this i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► get tons of of evil all the time from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► both places and mostly the facebook evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► is in the form of a really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► long essays about people's um like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► current medical treatments not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► evil it's just like the info and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► and I feel like looking at pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► people's dogs on instagram is maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► hmm but you can't say that because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► i'm going to get 50 tweets from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► of their dogs is it does sweet precious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► for babies but but I i'm on I i know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► lot of people from high school and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► is how the conversation always starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► right you know a bunch of people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► high school yeah and support Donald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► Trump and so I go over onto their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► threads and lurk i'm not i'm definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► not trying to argue with anybody i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► the only if i do comment it will only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► a law because I feel like law there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► three laws divorce the Rorschach test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► right three laws right there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► there's the capital L lowercase o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► lowercase L period that's that's law the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► sort of like grammatically correct law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► there's law capital all caps LOL caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► law and then there's all work a slaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► oh and that's almost like act well or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► can be all three of those can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► deployed in different ways but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► routinely will carry on a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► with someone else where they are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► just screaming at me and i'll reply with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► throughout the conversation all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► those loans right like you deploy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► laws and then I'm like law and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► the enemy wall and it's fucking amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► law is I know there's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► that that still have not gotten on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► the law train for a full and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► wrongful train kept it on the raffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► trick but ruffle kind of went away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► roffle was so great for so long roll on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► the floor laughing yes absolutely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► ruffle ruffle ruffle because it sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► like the Hamburglar but now but so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► you love lamb burger ruffle butt so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► working on these facebook threads of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► high school friends and there are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► there's this like there's a lot of humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► in there in this group of guys who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► supporting Donald Trump guys and gals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► right i mean it's very much like its its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► cultural rather than gender there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► lot of oh yeah woman who a massive Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► fans and there's a there's a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► humor and a light heartedness about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► way they talk but the humor right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► is of a style of humor that we on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► other side of the cultural fence have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► and we characterize that now is punching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► down right its humor at the expense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► other people it's a no and so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► the humor is like why can't you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► joke style but the people who feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► they're they are aggrieved it's anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► yeah exactly right i mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► they're under assault because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► because there are good god bless I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► you get again have the days where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► was considered punching down but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► there's blocks everywhere in lying lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► dishonest Hillary well and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► also like there are only whatever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► billion Christians in the world some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► course there are minority and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► look at growth that curve what killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► Jesus but you know the thing is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► that all of those people on my facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► Christian but they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► bible thumpers they are very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► from like an eighties feel ya there do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► beer-drinking hellraisers right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► are Alaskans who got big trucks and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► like to shoot guns and fuck the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► and you know and they're fun they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► of themselves as fun and their support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► of Trump only other fun and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► exactly and and the thing is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► you and I were raised in in a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► where the why can't you take a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► style of bullying was the norm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► somehow through the course of our lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► we've arrived at a place where hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► know why can't you take a joke style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► bullying is sort of like a pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► way of socializing people it is but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► also but if i remember correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► especially amongst family members and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► a young person's young man i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► where is like a poli aside thing Hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► look man you learn how to take a fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► sticks and stones will break your bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► yeah like maybe don't keep bugging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► cabdriver about racist jokes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► well and so all of my facebook pals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► which is to say my friends from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► school I mean the only people online who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► follow me who avidly disagree with me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► my high school friends are trolls right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► and indexes and well know that my none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► of my ex-girlfriends are on social media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► was that was that part of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► no I for many many years every woman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► dated was growing and you don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► lens that didn't it had nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► with me it was just like I was attracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► to lights and and and i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► right i mean every girl I ever dated had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► the thing that attracted to me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► attracted me to her from across the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► was something on the order of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► girl have leaves in her hair done just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► got strong bones returns veteran she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► knows how to take a fucking joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► yeah why why does she have leaves in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► hair and I walked over to my sleeves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► she'd say fuck you can a bad can it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► should we take this is full now on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► take a third location and good life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► intrigued by you tell me more about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► leaves so i can't be on to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► there some girls if in my past some ex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► girlfriends that I would just like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► talk to because it's like a it's been 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► years just checking in the only way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► the only even like way I have of knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► anything about their continued existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► is that some friend of a friend of hers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► is on facebook and every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► there are some something float by where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► it's like oh that's you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► following her friend of a friend I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► some picture of the back of her hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► that's right somebody put photo Tammy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► anything about Tammy Tammy but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► so that so what what I find over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► in that world is like there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► tremendous feeling of togetherness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► lightheartedness and feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► they're the only people left in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► world who have even a reasonable outlook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► on life and that over here in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► liberal like we're all a bunch of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► on the liberal side of the fence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► we're all a bunch of thumb suckers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► concern trolls basically like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► about wellness and again the implicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► i'm going to keep making this about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► perceived status but what do we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► be mad about especially because we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► the ascent we're the ones who get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► redefine the idea of you know gender not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► being digital and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► where's your fucking everything up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► we're not allowed to be mad yeah we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► yeah and and the and the and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► informs their narrative about the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► that are on their agenda are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► status quo things that they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► perceived to have been traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► things which have been encroached upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► that they would like to regain that turf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► but they think about themselves as just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► holding the line of what normal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► and they they see us on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► pushing what and you hear this term all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► yeah but it is you know it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► encroaching agenda so when I when I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► descriptions of the of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► represent now millions and millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► millions and millions of millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► people I i have to resist my own like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► knee-jerk reaction to say like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► all idiots right and try and get inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► that culture a little bit and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► what is it like from in here and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► think about all those people are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► Trump rallies that we look like to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► at and just go like oh my god they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► they're the worst with their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► that the only thing missing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► baseball hat with two beer cans in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► and fuckin straws coming down but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► within that trump rally they think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► yeah and Trump is having a blast that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► it's a monster truck show and we and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► from the outside we look like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► just joyless grave like can't take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► joke don't appreciate this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► people whose lives have been until it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► a little bit like the whole states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► rights things kind of played out again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► was like hey we have all this worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you're going to stay off our ship we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► start your shit and of course that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► never the case and so you know we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► only are we the aggrieved party if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► should choose to look at it that way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► like we have a sense of humor we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► like you sit there and like you have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► just listened to three episodes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► podcast about how horrible life will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► at Donald Trump becomes president is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► very good podcast called the truck cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► but i highly recommend very good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► very opinionated and it's very well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► but like people look at that and go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► my god and but what they think what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► also see is they see how scared we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► they see how how terrified and powerless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► so many people feel and like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► the more reason to start pulling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► it's like holy shit somebody finally put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► a scare into John Roderick a that fucker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► up all the dog the dog can smell your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► yeah right but you know i was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► conference call earlier today within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► city agency and it was a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► probably 20 people talking into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► probably 18 of them were sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► a conference table and I was laying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► bed talking to them with a with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► podcast and that is all around that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► that's it to rip this a terrific way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► get a lot of stuff does just get but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► people are really the speakerphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► yeah and at one point there someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► spoke up and said our you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► looking for people to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► this event it's you know the event is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► targeted at you know young women of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► she sort of says as an aside to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► people in the room like so anyone here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► that wants to get involved in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► please you know talk to me after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► meeting and sorry we're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► looking for any sis males mhm and within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► the context of this conversation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► self-evidently right you're looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► people that can identify and though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► in particular people that these young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► women can identify with right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► that that is the element that's missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► that's why this event is even happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► because these young women of color are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► not represented they don't see they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► don't have role models the same way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► and we're trying to now build these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► institutions where there where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► these mentoring relationships but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► from within a Donald Trump rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► what is the answer to that what from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► men's rights organizations or the gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► Gators to what you two huge problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► problem number one is you're excluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► the people who are never allowed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► excluded in second you're using a term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► potentially offensive exactly right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► mean it is kind of more than one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► it's not just roll your eyes over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► neologism it's that oh my god I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► believe you have the temerity to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► us out and then to use this faggot name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► well that and and and the way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► would then the way that they would the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► way that argument would coalesce is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► what would happen if I said that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► having a meeting and no women color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► right and it's what we have when we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► a men's government clock right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► everything that's ever happened 453 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► there's a lot of cooking for 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► but but that is there is a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► there's a libertarian logic to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► which is no regulation of any kind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► the purest form of life and as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► you start instituting rules then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► already on the way to talat arianism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► especially if those rules are about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► right if those rules affect me or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► three reasons it's amazing how rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► people who self-identify as libertarians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► are fighting to have things lifted from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► people aren't them well yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► because if there were no rules about who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► could go to meetings uh then it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► just be back to a question of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► ethnic bites you never think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► exactly right like like and then it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► and i think i think affirmative action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► as an ocean was the moment at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► some number of of some number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► carriages on the train of progress just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► got unhooked because it was a leap of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► logic a leap of of of like like a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► of faith or a an understanding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► understanding that redress is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► possible and that redress would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► beneficial to all that is that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► that's oh right right to not frame it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► like a handout to get these people off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► our back but rather something that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► improve the culture and society for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► yeah that that that the the benefits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► affirmative action the benefits of equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► rights for all are not a they're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► machine to two newly privilege another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► group over you they're they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► it's it is an attempt to continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► perfect to the notion of the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► continuation of a of a of progress that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► we've made throughout time that benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► everyone because progress benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► everyone and the the more you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► have watched well disseminate and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► were so were so consumed with how wealth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► is concentrated right now and it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► concentrated in the in the one-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► but the fact is compared to even 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► years ago when people were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► routinely starving to death around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► world in you know number in numbers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► would astonish you even now to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► you know we have we as a as a human as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► human race through technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► through democracy have turned to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► into a garden of Plenty and people now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► live life expectancy has doubled and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and education has doubled in or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► like people are are so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► educated and cared for then maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► just think about medical care for old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► yeah then the amount of things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► know to avoid doing so we don't die as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► young and you know something does happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► we have ways to treat stuff that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► exist 50 years ago a life expectancy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► people in 1900 was about 40 but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► wasn't meant for fifteen yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► and so so with that in mind you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► can just make this this case that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► combination of science and philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► science on the one hand you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► improving them are material life and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► improving our like agency our political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► agency are belonging and I mean by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► political philosophy and also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► the philosophy of the mind and that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► that you know that case of affirmative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► action in that case of social justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► which in the context of like reparations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► just naturally a defends the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► aren't making a philosophical lead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► offends them because they say well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2573">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► hardscrabble life nobody ever gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► yeah where's my parade right like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► great-grandparents came over from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► Ireland and they didn't you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► didn't riot or whatever that that logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► of the logic where you're only seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► reparations in in terms of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► cash-out or or an unfair advantage being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► afforded to you rather than seeing it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► like part of this grand experiment how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► to create what are our theories about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► political science where we can we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► raise the bar for everybody and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► we're at a place where that has been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► poorly explained that we've lost we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► lost half the country and I and I do put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► the blame on the Intelligencia the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► Academy for lack of a better description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► for having done such a poor job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► articulating what the project and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► think within academia because within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► academia they also perceived themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► to be a threatened minority who write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► the the college life and the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► ivory tower folks saw themselves as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► revolutionaries 20 at war against a a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► you know a majority of dummies and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► they you know they used the the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► inflammatory language of resistance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► and and war that we were we were under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► siege and we were going to we were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► to take it to the level of like we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► going to him in in a lot of ways impose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► these theories because if people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► like it they could suck it right like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► you didn't like it too bad for you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► this is what's right for you and no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► the and the and trying to get people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► trying to get people to understand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and get on board that crucial step the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► Academy stop even pretending and so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► we fit we failed utterly failed to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► get everybody to understand what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► we're trying to accomplish and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► know and and it's and a lot of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► that but you and I have talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► this a lot every single group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► feels like they are the money minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► yep and they all feel like they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► defend they have to defend themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► and then I think the many people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► do it let's put this way there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► that many people one of my old saws is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► like I don't think there's that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► people in existence today that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► describe themselves as stupid and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► don't think there's actually that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► Americans who would describe themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► as being one commonly fortunate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► privileged that's changing a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► everybody's got their reasons for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► they think the way they think and do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► way they do and based on strong feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► and anecdotes and traditions and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► like that there's the minutes but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► that's always been the case it's just we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► we always see the log in somebody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► I but the other part of this that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► think is another failing of benefits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► academia but the failure of all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► but im gonna have it fall harvest on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► Liberals is our inability he described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► how old is getting racist shut it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► like this is getting like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► obviously you have done so you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► idiot shut it down like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► failure of imagination i think on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► liberal side and failure of empathy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► understand why people are saying what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► they're saying in the way that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► saying it and the fact that we disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► strongly with the very top level of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► they present themselves and what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► rhetoric is and choosing not to play by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► the same rules that we do in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► you know online discourse or discourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► in general I think that leads to a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► dangerous lack of empathy of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► actually listening to what these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► are saying because when you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► read these pieces about people who go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► into a Donald Trump rally for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► it's frequently extremely interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► where you want this person meets people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► they genuinely like like weirdos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► they like inside of a Donald Trump rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► but you know what gets reported fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► is the one person who yells hang the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► bitch in clinton is named the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► you hear that often enough and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► gonna get the feeling that that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► gonna make all this and try to defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► Donald Trump what i am saying there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► lot more going on than just we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► Donald Trump Donald Trump is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► figurehead for 4,000 different hydras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► and like to think that that's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► same people with the same for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► you just put this this and this big pile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► of dumb people who don't get it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► don't like you're missing out on a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► of stuff did you read that New Yorker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► article III think I've read all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► articles and there's one with a guy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► there's the the one guy there who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► into chemtrails it was handing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► bottles of water that while i'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► no no this guy from the New York did one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► of those wonderful new yorker pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► where he was just like I'm just gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► to this Trump rally and see if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► make any friends and he did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► what I see and he had that thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► he's where he would say because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► only want to build a wall and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► say well what about this one a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► where this gal was born or you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► was born in America or well I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► was born in Mexico but brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► America when she was three months old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► and uh and got a parking ticket and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► everybody he asked was like oh well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► mean and the first thing they said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► yeah right well she's a good person then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► we should figure out it means there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► should be exceptions certainly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► like in each case there their initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► their initial argument of like build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► wall keep them out but your but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► do that your problem tising something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► that seems very simple which is hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► we're here at this rally to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► Matt we are like you think in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► people get fuck all for Donald Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► they're there because he represents a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► very very deep anger and discontentment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► what has happened in America some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► which a lot of people might surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► want to agree with a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► happened between 2008 and 2010 in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► country that a lot of people are mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► about on every side of every aisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► that's a lot of it there's a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► losing jobs and I'm not trying to defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► any of this but but I think I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► I'm trying to say is that like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► it's it's uniquely on smart liberals to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► be such dealings about trying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► people in a box that they can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► instead of trying to actually listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► what somebody is saying so in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► what you just described somebody goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► into that rally and goes from goes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► being a bunch of rapist from Mexico to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► here's this one girl that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► imagine my kid knowing that changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► everything because now it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► people it's about eight person but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► rarely do the same thing with people we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► disagree with and that's on us we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► making it worse when we try to demonize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► demon eyes on the people who are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► don't agree with what we we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► the empathy to try to hear what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► happening behind what they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► we're because it's a culture that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► foreign to us it's like watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► bullfighting remembers when i'm sure we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► can be mad about I well I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► could be bad about because the Sun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► ain't no yeah this is the just and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► as you see no i was reading The Guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► an article by dave eggers your daddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► Dave Eggers goes to a Donald Trump rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► see that the man in front of me said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► was pointing to a jets white trail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► that's the air force is playing shit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► the sky bigger says i'll call this man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► any like jim was buying bottled water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► for everybody and being eventually i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► sorry to dissemble and to be such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► unloyal uh you know fellow traveler at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► such an important time but fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► well yeah I'm mad about Donald Trump to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► like i think is a dangerous man but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► just yelling across the aisle is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► the more things that we do to show how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► the further we dig ourselves into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► completely untenable situation that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► unit on an interesting thing a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► ago which was thank you mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► it's rare moment that's very that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► three for me that fuckin 206 episodes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► rare diamond in the horse shit I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► know how the horse ate the diamond don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► ask somebody for a diamond in a banana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► fed to a horse like introduction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► then I saw it come out of the poop poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► chute know the idea i mean way up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► idea of privilege right now whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► whenever someone speaks about privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► no one talks about their own privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► you know it with any pride certainly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► our side of the fence right if you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► the word privilege you are saying it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► like I mean you know in terms of white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► privilege you have this thing and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► sorry for it and you're trying to amend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► for it you know that you that this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► become a term of art for a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► for a form of shame at your privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► and I think it gets the second but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► not interrupt the first of all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► it's a little bit like acknowledging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► air is free and we get it yet part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► is just acknowledging that is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► thing that rather than my emotions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► how might I feel but heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► somebody calling me that then i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► really stop it you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► actually really fucking right I can walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► anywhere I want and I'll be fine but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► but the issue i think in our culture at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► large is that no one is acknowledging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► it's always somebody else did everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► select right and and and i say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► about about the Liberals at as much or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► this this sense of being under siege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► means that there's no intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► tradition or cultural tradition that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► doesn't that doesn't describe itself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► under siege including all of the rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► preppy guys at the Yale Club in in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► York City who are kind of circling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► around their gin and tonics and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► you know they're coming at us from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► sides where the last of a dying breed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► so no one in America will acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► that they are the establishment and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► no one is in charge no one has to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► effectively the liberals are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► establishment we really are like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► candidate is going to win the presidency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► and our candidate has been the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► for the last eight years and liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► ideas are ascendant and have been for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► long time now we feel under assault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► because there are hundreds of millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► of people or you know a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► fifty million people on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► of the aisle who are throwing a spit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► wads at us right and who want guns to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► unregulated and who want abortion to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► and they are the there the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► the of the aisle but really they benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► from liberal ideas to and the degree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► which they acknowledge that or don't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► just a failure of of language or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► know it's a failure of of comprehension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► more than anything but at some point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► people with privilege who are for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► intensive purposes every American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► listening to this podcast regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► race or gender you have electricity in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► the computer we yeah and you are smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► enough to be listening to me and tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► award-winning broadcaster on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► yeah right you are the intellectual a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► 10-percent we are your the reason we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► it you know what it's all for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► the kids for the kids but 22 to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► that mantle and to say i am part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► leading one part of the leadership and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► have a responsibility not to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► myself constantly as a victim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► I have a responsibility to be the adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► in the room and to say here are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► here's the larger world we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► cut to construct it's a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► fairness does predominate it's a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► where a rising tide does lift all boats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► and it's some version of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► socialistic capitalistic Democratic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► know uh like a like a secular whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► this this cloud of ideas that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► sort of bathe in and pick and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► grapes from took two to create a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► view that we can proudly hold up and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► you know I do have privilege it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► privilege of being a person in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► culture who is responsible for for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► yeah and that a that shouldering of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► burden and refusal to think of yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► as someone who is who's constantly in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► posture of defense is also a leap like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► like a intellectual and spiritual lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► and it isn't to say you don't say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► word privilege with with a tonne of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► apology you say I'm privileged to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► able to say the following things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► I'm privileged to be able to come to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► today and described the world i imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► and the world we collectively are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► to imagine and I I feel like over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► the way to to to have this experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► not devolved into what it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► what we're all afraid it's doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► now which is just this like two nations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► scenario where in order to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► Seattle to Minneapolis you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► to fly over hostile territory or have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► passport right to go up to code frost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► red state land before going into cloak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► mode you know and like Minneapolis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and and chicago or kind of up there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► it's weird like lake Lake down town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► country that goes up to ontario um in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► order to in order to not have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► happen we we just and we're the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► that have to do it we have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► better case we have to articulate a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► that isn't from our own our own state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► victimization but a case that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► encompassing that says listen you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► we're not trying to be humorless drudges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► here we're not trying to force you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► all be gay that it sucks we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► you to be getting really don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► to because we just want the game ones of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► that's good friends right come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► yeah but they're gonna be three students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► interested in this idea though the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► tickle taking leadership just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► grabbing it you know being the one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► gonna love you know let it begin with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► yeah very very interesting idea you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► acknowledging that you already have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► kind of running the meeting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► that's a strangely existential i like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► i gotta i was i I tweeted out a an ex of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► mine is the gal that spearheading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► shout your abortion movement and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► retweeted one of her tweets and I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► reply on facebook from a guy that I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► to college with and i went to a Catholic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► College for a couple years and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► friend of mine is a big big burly kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► of you know Irish Catholic I taller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► me bigger than me like a bit many i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► right well that's his name Jimmy Jimmy o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► O'Shaughnessy not attracted and he has I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► hope is a clean a nap and he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► little darling kids ranging in age from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► Lee 24 comes from 0 to 11 and he's uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3591">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► the guy hilarious guy he comments on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► facebook page all the time he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► liberal guy he's a funny guy but he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► anti-abortion mhm and he's anti abortion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► because every life is sacred and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that is a worldview right it's alex katz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► got their reasons I mean it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► accompanying worldview and it begins at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► up at an initial premise which is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► life is sacred and that sacredness comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► from its from the fact that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► soul to where we are we are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► stewards of those lives right and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► their perspective like like just as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► just as we look back at our founding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► fathers and go how could they possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► have had slaves and simultaneously been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► writing these you know these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► Florida and beautiful dark it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► like they're from a different time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► like they're from a different time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► different values so we Catholics are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► there's a large proportion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► philosophical Catholics whoo-hoo imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► some future day when people will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► back in time and say how could we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► sat how could our forefathers of SAT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► idly by during this genocide of souls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► but also at the same time if I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► compare the amount of volunteer time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► five of your ne5 your friends spent vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► in average sampling of five people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► your local parish people who are like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► tremendously involved in good causes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like trying to be Stewart's of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► trying to fit a certain New Testament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► idea of good works right right well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► and and again i say i'm saying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► not bad he's up an end up in a tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► with some sandwiches and toilet paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► no they're not bad you know there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► and I and I and this guy is just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► thousands of people i know on that side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► of the fence you know who and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► them are really really philosophical but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► it begins at this initial premise and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► he wrote on my facebook page you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► can I please ask you to take this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► down in respect of the millions of souls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► that are you know that and then and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► used some inflammatory language at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► you know a few a few adjectives like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► but equivalent to you putting up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► picture of Auschwitz on an elie wiesel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► yeah like you come onto that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► cool but he's he's a friend of mine he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► respects me he follows me he is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► he's one of what i would consider to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► my or season in my orbit and this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► and I got into his sandbox right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► he's a supporter of obama and hillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► but this is his mhm yeah you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► little like core issue at the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► his world at the center of his vision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► the world and and I wrote him back very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► I didn't write him back because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► living in this shit world where all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► did was comment on his golf ball that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► like David well I didn't write him back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► on market center taper like they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► wall said I gave him all three laws no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► didn't know it's like be the Holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► Trinity that he lost the Father the Son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► of the nominee domini time fav by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► running back and said listen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► like in all honesty we have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► different foundational idea of the value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► of human life and I do not share your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► view that every life is sacred and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► forth at the second s of that life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► Trump's this other right now should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► consider pretty important but within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► that like you have to acknowledge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► have to just if you're if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► to if you're going to get into that wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► until you have to just say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► because if you say that like there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► small amount of sacredness to a life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► it doesn't and it's not equivalent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► the right and is a spectrum of sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► there's not really it's like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► say good to yourself sacred sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► you're pulling the sacred card when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► like that'sthat's taking it from like em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► don't curse on Sunday don't masturbate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► 911 this is more like no sacred that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► that's a different kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► yeah well and it's and it's equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► to like why do we why if we kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► somebody when they're one-month-old is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► it murder and when that when there 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► months old in the woman's not murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► we have in we have within us we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► made within our laws and within our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► minds some uh honestly some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► arbitrary decision about what almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► everything is there are many spectra in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► life in there are hard decisions to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► about spectrum but if you act like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► science is gonna hold up so well and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► but they're so there's a spectrum right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► and a lot of that is is legal and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► of it is moral and your point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► almost every decision anyone has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► made is arbitrary they well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► certainly they are because in a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► we're just I mean we're just pray for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► tigers right but where you know it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► if you think about think about humans in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► their natural state or whatever I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► that's where we're so far down the river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► decisions are predicated on prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► secretness is predicated on a condom on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► monotheism which is evolved from those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► there that there is there is a God whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► responsibility as the Stewart's of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► truth to make sure that that is enacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► in every conceivable way on earth then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► that there's there's a lot of you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3958">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► making a lot of lily pad leaps to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► and it's just like you know what is God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► he's a silverback gorilla who's jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► of the smaller girl that's from Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► cards first meditation so so I wrote him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and I said you know we're just this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► we're just foundationally going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► work we're never going to come to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► accord on this because I don't share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► your view that human life is sacred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and the problem is that you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► people who who have a belief that human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► life is sacred they believe that all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► all laws and morals that that we live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► live according to proceed from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► initial premise why be good to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► why do we not kill and rape and Eve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► because life is sacred you you proceed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► from that initial idea i get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► chickens involved with the pig is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► mm you know think that see that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► like a like a Garfield quote you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► that saying no chicken the chicken then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► goes the tickets hey you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► should start breakfast restaurant and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► takes is no way in the the hands like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► and then the pics as well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► you're involved but I'm committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► yeah that's right you're involved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► i'm committed hands exactly right so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► the harder case actually falls to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► liberal in that situation to say i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► not believe i do not have a foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► belief that every life is sacred and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► I believe in morality and law and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► things stem from some costume case some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► initial case that we have we have yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► describe em like why in it if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► take away the idea that life is sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► monotheistic God why be good to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► other and the liberal case is constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► to say no we are making this argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► from the rights of man that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► are that are operatory that these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► self-evident rights and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► this is all this all proceeds from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► a card and lock and jefferson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► Augustine or whatever you know like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► philosophy of history and it's happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► simultaneously with you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► sort of theistic approach which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► you cannot divorce these ideas from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► there from the the source the fountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► which is a loving God and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► innocent secret source where I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► is going to this is eight admittedly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► stretch where let's say even if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► super into the idea of abortion as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► thing you wouldn't let yourself because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► of the sacred law that passed on to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► that basically to extend that kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► don't know jurisprudence of God that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► that if this is the law it must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► followed down the line every single way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► like a but I'm not gonna pick and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► which of these things no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► strongly i may be personally for or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► against anything the laws law right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► can't pick and choose and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► mhm because it represents something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► that's real and not something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► just drenched or something that you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► you believe maybe today and not a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► from now when you've read a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► it's a shabbat elevate like it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► went when they went in the Declaration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► of Independence Jefferson and and Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► Franklin collaborating or whatever came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► up with this like we hold these truths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► to be self-evident that all men are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► that's an egg's that's a moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► they're kicking the ball down the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► you know they are they are saying we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► hold these truths to be self-evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► well that's nice how do you hold these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► I like to show your work sir exact show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► you an F and what they what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► playing off of was the you know was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► intellectual tradition of the as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► saw it of their immediate forebears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► of the of thomas mann and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► obviously I'm talking about John Locke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► here know like um sometimes man but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► you know that they are they're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► off of this this deist sort of Rights of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► Man but d ism was you know was a leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► that that maintained the existence of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► god so so here we are now 200 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► oh my god 204 most 50 years later yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► know i was just introduced to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► centennial quarters how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► collect those still have them i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► have the clichéd yeah we are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► kicking that ball down the field from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► yeah and we continue to do a poor job at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► this yesterday where were we really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► Hamilton in our house and there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► many lines so many great lines and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► end up talking about and she's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► time just like my darling to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► again like which one is the one that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► slaves and I was like tell us jefferson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► and things as much as I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► Alexander Hamilton musical I'm I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► I'm more on kind of Jefferson side on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► lot of issues with but with that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► yeah the guy who wrote that he totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► had slaves well had slaves and had sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► with his lips I mean they all had I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► Hamilton didn't have slaves because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► that's right but how does a bastard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► orphan son of a whore and a Scotsman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► ones that was Angelica Skylar said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► hold these truths to be self-evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► that all men are created equal and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► yeah I worked in the mammal to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► you're so we got Thomas man we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► deists we got to abortion facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► yeah abortion facebook i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► i didn't comment on this episode please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► send to rock on the line at example.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► one of our operators will be standing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► uh-huh I really really really want i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► really want the I want those of us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► share this world this liberal world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► do more self-examination to join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► club Johnny I know man I I you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► like and the thing is there's so much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► am not going to fucking talk about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► this podcast because i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► mhm think about this one I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► I have a feeling about this but i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► going to toss this out i happen to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► very much on I'm very simpatico with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► people say you know what can we please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► stop killing the black people i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► need to stop killing black people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► agree i think we should start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► black people i know that i know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► it's a bold bold stance on my very brave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► bold stance when I say I stand before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► you today today gives you a chance we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► could stop killing black people now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► follow me on this and and don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► uh the leap from let's stop killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► black people to guns are playing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► this is a leap that is not even a leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► for most of my friends and I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► I I'd like to see fewer of the guns to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► write but then the leap from let's stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► killing by people so maybe not so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► guns you are actually at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► strangely close to saying to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► people in America you're responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► whether you realize it or not when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► say that not again I don't have a dog in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► this fight i'm just here to say that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► telling you if you go and read what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► people on the other side here when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► people say that something i happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► agree with what they are going to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► is like not only are you trying to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► our guns away but you're essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► accusing me of murder because I I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► gun that's what it sounds like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► people i'm going to say that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► wrong or otherwise I just want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► think about it i will know the harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► the harder even thing to get your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► around is that even if you take the guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► out of the equation and you just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► listen the cops the white cops in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► South do not see blacks as full-humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► the evidence that we see is all I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► almost guarantee you is just barely even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► the tip of an iceberg for a much deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► cultural disconnect about how these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► folks treated and what what what ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► happening is that the left takes on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► very lecturing tone volume on your exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► John you know a lot of people came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► dude i'm up for expert i got to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► break but really fast i know it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► almost eight hours you want you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► you want to read some of my tweets their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► top shelf week he sound like Donald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► Trump my tweets on this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► my people at making friends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► internet today the left the left has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► this culture right where we take we take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► in this is the biggest women stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► we say we say very briefly something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► about our own privilege to indicate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► we are on the on the good side we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► the right way we got ourselves a Hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► and you know as a white ally or we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► something we said say something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► mitigates our our our experience just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► enough that we absolvo ourselves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► complicity and then we immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► adopted hectoring lecturing tone to ward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► everyone else that we presume it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► less enlightened right didn't you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► back and read my timeline and what I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► to say about this I can't believe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► right right but in the meantime largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► living in white enclaves largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► benefiting from systems that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► more or less a like systematized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► segregation and there isn't enough real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► reckoning and it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► it doesn't have to take this form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► like prostration it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► involve even like being apologetic fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► acknowledgement of and and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► hopefully an acknowledgement of your of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► exactly you know like shame does not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► empowering it isn't empowering for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► anybody and it doesn't accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► anything except to make you to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► yeah exactly and so to acknowledge your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► privilege in your power and then try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► find a but to acknowledge it in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► ways even with pride and say how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► now use this privilege map and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► mean that the people who are who resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► the black lives matter narrative Roger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► that are terrific terrific example you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► know it's not just that that they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► like they're they feel like their guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► are I mean that that's that's way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► the line they're afraid that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► saying the cops are you know just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► only independent depends on how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► choose to finish that statement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► doesn't really need to be finished black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► lives matter and to a lot of people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► that I don't happen to agree but to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► that statement is all black lives matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► to the exclusion of other people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► or or lack lives the the fact that black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► lives matter is going to is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► translate into more entitlements for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► them who that are not afforded to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► I'm also poor so what you know where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► and I so I how to how to get out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► reflective state of liberal apology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► where every where every statement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► preceded with a caveat that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► know that you acknowledge your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► acknowledge that your voice isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► voice that's needed here or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► know to to proceed from that into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► place where we are where we are actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► trying to make a case and actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► trying to be articulate about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► that begins with us acknowledging what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► and I don't know how I mean I've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► my entire life trying to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► those words we hold these truths to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► self-evident mean I mean I really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► my whole adult life I have turned those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► words over in my head because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► that's its Jefferson's way of going uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► right well I mean like no I'm sorry I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► being glib but it's a way of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► self-evident is all the in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► that's that is his supernal sanction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► that there's nothing even even beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► God and law this is self-evident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► Enlightenment this is something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► can look at and and go this equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4735">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► well and that the thing is that my that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► the founders were really at odds with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► one another about this mm and Jeff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► my understanding my understanding of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► is that Jefferson actually his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► draft actually used a lot more sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► quasi religious language and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► was Ben Franklin who sort of made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► suggestion of the term self-evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► because you know Jefferson was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► more of a DSS and and initially said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► hold these truths to be sacred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► franklin was the one that said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► implies too much that introduces too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► much God and let's let's change it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► so that collaboration between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► Jefferson the sort of scientific New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► Englander I'm sorry Franklin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► scientific New Englander vs Jefferson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► philosopher you know I mean just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► just those two the push and pull between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► between those two you know interacts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► it'sit's such a kick the can down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► road moment like so bad i mean if he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► said sacred we hold these truths to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► sacred we would be in a bit I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► would be a different country and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► we'd be arguing it from a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► place because we would be people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► share my world view would be at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► disadvantage right now we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► saying like if it I you know like if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► isn't sacred then what is it then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► whole than the the whole edifice starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► to crumble and Franklin just got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► little he just planted this pole there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► with self-evident undefined and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► given us this it's given us 250 years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► I'll put it out don't worry I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► of course it would where are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► to end it there with the lip-smacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► all feedback goes to Roderick online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► example.com its mark on the line at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPq_vU4/4896">TS</a>]