Ep. 219: "It's an Off Day"
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hello hi John I'm Merlin how's it going
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oh my goodness yeah
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oh but what I mean who
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Oh mm oh I last night was laying in bed
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i went to bed early
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1010 p.m. i was in bed covers up under
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my nose
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mm and I started to play my little game
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on my phone telephone game your phone
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came here it's a game i've had for a
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long time
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it's a little bit of a like a gym game
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you know once you move that i haven't
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played this but they're very popular
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movies with some fruit or or some jewels
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yeah and we'd each other line em up move
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em yeah you line them up who I was on an
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airplane one-time long time ago flying
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outlook a great distance and I looked
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over at some passenger sitting on the
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aisle seats you know one or two rows up
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and he was playing the gym game he was
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lining is lining up James and I said
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well that seems like a fun diversion so
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I i acquired the the gym game I've been
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lining up gems for some time now but
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there were several as you know on some
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of these games there were several other
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options for gameplay with me so far I
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think so I mean so yeah I mean you so is
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this kind of thing where you get an eel
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and gives you more mario coins or
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something
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no no you long to put you log upon LBA
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the game uh-huh and it says do you want
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to play the the standard game or do you
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want to play octopus party or do you
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want to play doing place a a gem delight
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for the gnomes in the mine they describe
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how that didn't make the game different
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John no no they don't they don't say
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there's an octopus party over there you
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should check it out
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that's right they leave it to you and so
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you know since I'm a traditionalist I
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never chose octopus party
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what does that have to do with James
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right we have to do with lining up James
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but a few days ago I i went to a i was
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looking at my gym game and I said maybe
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a little variation in the gym game maybe
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i will try octopus party in this case i
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picked gnome mine which made sense when
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you're my mining James is the premise I
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think who wear the gems come from
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they're lining up standing why yeah why
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is the game not called rotterdam jeweler
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who write that they had rotterdam
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jeweler I would've played a long time
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ago encouraging you to explore beyond
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the superficial level of the gem lining
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let's think about where this comes from
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haha yeah thank you put a historical a
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spin on it and I think a lot of us out
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here playing our gym games would say
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right i will i will do rotterdam jeweler
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i will do
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DeBeers vice president uh-huh uh-huh
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yeah yeah guyana chucker look you could
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you get you get you get Ruby digger
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write something that connects you can
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really get your hands back into the
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yeah good you wanted let's be honest
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even if it's a Middle earth it should be
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a middle earth that's one of the key is
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one of the key sources of gems
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middle-earth who the mines of moria em
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anyway so this this game has got these
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that you know it's like octopus card and
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I don't want that but I do go to know
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mine and edited variation on the games
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very appealing
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it's set to a timer instead of two to
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some other level of achievement or kind
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of achievement and so now i'm rich i
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have a renewed interest in it
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anyway i went to bed at ten started
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playing no mind at one-thirty my Fitbit
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which I have programmed to think that it
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knows me i told my fit but i like to go
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to bed at two in the morning at one
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thirty in the morning fit said time to
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get ready to go to bed and I said
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tut-tut you Fitbit you're not my nanny
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I'm Way ahead i'm already in bed i'm in
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that's right I'm ready 50 i'm in bed I'm
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just I'm just diverting myself and my
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attention a little bit before i go to
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sleep by lining up some gems when I
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finally have had enough lining up James
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it is five thirty in the morning from
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10pm til 530 in the morning i lined up
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James fruitlessly for no betterment of
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myself for mankind seven-and-a-half
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hours i could have flown to do by John
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not not literally not from here too much
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longer flight but I could I could have
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not only flown to Honolulu but taking a
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cab to the airport had a refreshing nap
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and che dice I could have had a shave
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I could be sitting under the banyan tree
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at the Royal Hawaiian hotel listening to
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some luau music sometimes really puts
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the context you know in the time that
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I've been stacking gems so many things
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could have happened i could work a full
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day at work up you know assuming that
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i'm going to slack off the first and
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last 15 minutes of full day of work
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yeah so I'm embarrassed I wouldn't be as
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embarrassed as I as I am now having just
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told it to everyone you know but I'm
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also exhausted from lack of sleep I have
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things to do today so you can see my you
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can see my conundrum
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oh it's a variety of chondrocytes a
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basket of conundrum
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oh I'm sorry John have any insight into
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this condition
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yeah yeah I do i do I do
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yeah I think sometimes I I think of it
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as the way when you're trying to catch
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fish you want to get the get the hook in
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you know what I mean like me could you
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could be fucking around and throwing
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your line and and and based on your hook
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but it doesn't really but sometimes the
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hook gets in and in this case I think we
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don't always realize when the hook is in
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and even when it is in there's still
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some kind of different part of your
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brain that's that's that's saying hey
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this is important fishing you're doing
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yeah you want to get the hook it right
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okay I'm with you yeah so which so which
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is which mi the fish is the game the
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fish where the hook is getting in which
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which one is the fish in which that's a
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really good at that word that Spinoza I
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don't know what that would be that's
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really that's a really good question
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Barkley I that's a very good question
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John now it seems like you really think
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about your basket of conundrum
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you've got on the one hand you seen like
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something something something was
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pleasing to you or satisfying about this
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game and everything seemed copacetic for
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a while right
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so sometimes when I think about these
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things for myself and I just want to say
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I you know what I'm gonna share your
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shame i'm going to unburden you by
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saying i do this kind of bullshit all
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the time I have an awareness of when it
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began and then I'm covered with shame
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when it ends when I'm up sometimes very
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sketchy on what happened in between
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apart from the fact my phone is now at
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three percent I'm exhausted uh-huh and I
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i just cut this out i do not want to
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talk about the election but I don't want
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to talk about the election
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wow you're I really don't want to talk
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about the election but i have been a
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nervous wreck for the past I i I'm i I'm
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no max Temkin but I am a nervous wreck
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about this and I have been reloading web
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pages to this 100 menu
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you know me right thing that I do I know
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general guy who removed the tab full of
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news bookmarks I invented that i
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invented not caring about the news
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no you don't do that you don't have any
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load the news and I'm sitting there with
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the 538
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the polls only and how many path to
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victory and I fucking ate myself
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oh don't do it just keeps happening and
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then at the same time I I got you know
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i'm going to go all the way I'm going to
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go all the way down to the bottom of the
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nomes here's my problem I i can feel
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that I'm getting better at threes after
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like two years but my score is not
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getting any higher
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oh you're on the plateau you're on the
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plateau and one day you're gonna have a
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leap you're going to be so much you're
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going to just leap ahead you're going to
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be at your make seventy thousand points
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one day I I honestly I don't know what's
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gonna happen at this point I'm at sixes
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and sevens with threes
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yeah here's my tragedy and i have for
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some newer listeners they don't remember
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the the many conversations we've had
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about the great phone game threes but i
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have introduced my daughter 230 no
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kidding
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and she had smoked one of the very few
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video games ever seen and she really is
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fascinated and very proud of her
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accomplishments it isn't clear yet
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whether she 100-percent understands the
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difference between scoring 20 500 and
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600 she seems equally proud of both
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accomplishments and she would love to
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talk about this i would love to talk
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about a child strategy for for not only
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waiting on a child strategy for playing
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three is because it's very difficult for
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me to watch up my daughter seems to
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think it's all about how quickly she can
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move as if I just keep going up left up
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left up left i get a really good school
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and so I'm you know I'm not really sure
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and yet our scores are almost as good as
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yeah they're better i think that's a
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good strategy you know you've heard
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overthinking it
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you've heard of the version of playing
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three is where the goal is to get a
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smaller score
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oh I I don't know if that's the thing
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but i'm pretty good at that I got it is
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i got 400 the other day if it is it is a
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version of that game like chaff who you
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know its competitive with your friends
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like all right everybody trying to get
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the lowest score 3 is go
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yeah like you know you don't you don't
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know from shame yeah
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I so let me ask you this
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whereas you were refreshing 538 m did
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you take did you take some time to
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obsess over hurricane Matthew know it
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was just getting in my way
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oh wow I was just getting my way with
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with on the google news huh yeah I don't
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come at i'll learn from you a long time
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ago that following the news a fool's
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errand and that any news worth knowing
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can can wait until the weekly digest you
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really feel like you really learned that
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have more of a more of a Pony Express
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feeling about the news now you know like
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if it can if it it doesn't need to get
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faster it doesn't need to get to you
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90-minute flaming shit show about pussy
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grabbing last night because I was like
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first day at this is your first day and
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watch all my good as I should have said
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that to him
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user no Jack Kennedy but no one
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olds and but but through this election
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cycle i know that nothing is going to
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turn on a dime
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the ups and downs and if you did if you
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know the ins and outs
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like what would that change in what I'm
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listen to it but even so like that i
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got all these guns and bombs and then
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you are not using them enough i wish we
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had went from that way because nuclear
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weapons when we use them
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why don't we use them just about it in
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there we paid for the bottom paid for
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that's very provocation what you just
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said Jesus if you were running for
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president I would i think that would end
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be disqualifying John uh who knows
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oh my face hurts but up but if you're
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following the war in Syria it doesn't
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take long for you to turn a corner open
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a door and you're staring at pictures of
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dead babies
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being killed in that war that and then
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way that's useful to humanity is it my
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obligation to see a certain number of
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dead children every day or two in order
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very damaging you know it's it's
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psychically damaging and there's I'm
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more damaging to be in Syria and have
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your children killed in a in a smart
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bomb or a dumb bomb
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yeah but what what am I contributing uh
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what am I contributing and anyway i'm
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like a like a like a black lab I leaned
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particulate I taste the microscopic
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urine particulate of 400 raccoons
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you're in particulate and knows
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feel the particular of the
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air-conditioning anyway I way those two
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universes and it's like it's like I'm in
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think in some part of their lizard brain
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think it's it's just the gambling people
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he made that on purpose yeah well and
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also those were to make the red fall to
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to make me get a 400 sure you just get
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even touch the cards i won't even touch
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play three more hands okay gotta get
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excited some foot
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car and then no tell you what you give
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yeah well i mean i wish that that was a
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that was that was a metaphor for
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something but it's not it's actually a
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might need to work and sleep hygiene a
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moist know what yeah sure you don't like
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think it's problematic but i just don't
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like it
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yeah but uh but so yesterday i'm walking
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daydream that comes into my head I at
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but uh you want when it happens i'm
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walking a lot i feel like i will know I
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feel like all know because because all
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of a sudden i'll start peeing like a
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chronic alcoholic
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no I didn't pee myself I just forgot to
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pull my sweat pants down
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I got me going to yourself i knew i was
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standing at the toilet I just overlook
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the sweatpants turlet is how you start
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pronouncing it that i'll be i'll be
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standing at a urinal in an airport style
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and i'll be there for 40 minutes
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that's how I know I'm late middle-age
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standing at airport restroom just like
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I'm almost model is done i'm older than
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Carroll O'Connor was when he started on
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the family you want want to feel old
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you're feeling lonely ladies doing it
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it's the same distance between now and
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the first Beatles album and the distance
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between the first Beatles album and the
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birth of ragtime oh my god it's a
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difference now between that the burr
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Hamilton dual same amount as since
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synchronicity came out and without kid
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from nevermind haha didn't look good
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from nevermind play a play the love
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interest girl on Wonder Years
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no no I think that getting convicted the
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guy in the guy in the players and dead
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kennedys following the courtship of
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eddie's father what
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I think up anyway here's my daydream ok
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walking along
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listen this conversation pops into my
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head ok
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suddenly i'm standing at the at a NASCAR
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track on an off day and here is the
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manager I'm talking to the manager I'm
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assuming there is a manager character in
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NASCAR trying to the manager of a of a
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very successful NASCAR team
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I don't know anything about masker I I
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think your assumptions feel valid this
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point I think there's teams there must
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be managers and is probably off days
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this dissolve the salt checks out okay
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good because that because you know I'm
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making this up as I go and I have no
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idea why I'm doing but I say to this
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manager i waltz up let's say i get i get
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in through the fence because it's an off
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day i waltz up he's there
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maybe he's wiping his hands on her on a
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drag but he's the Manager so he's you
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know he's got his he's wearing a
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collared shirt and I say listen I seem a
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little bit old I know but I'm the
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world's greatest race car driver ever
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see the movie the natural huh that's
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beyond Roy Hobbs of driving NASCAR cars
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and the manager says we get guys like
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you in here all the time some guy
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driving a Ford Taurus the back roads of
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West Virginia you think your hot race
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car driver and you want to come in here
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and bs so get out of here kid and I say
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that so I figured you'd say
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and here's my wager and then I pull out
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a stack
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I to two stacks of twenty thousand
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dollars and I say that with you when you
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snuck through the fence and this is just
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you know I'm like I'm not here
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let's take this table stakes in a NASCAR
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dare well but this is you know it's an
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off day
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sure so I'm not I'm not standing at I'm
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not standing here like I'm certainly i'm
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not in a boiler suit with my name over
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the pockets but I'm also not a
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three-piece suit either but I look like
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you know I came I came correct right
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maybe you see a little flash
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of steve mcqueen Rowling's but you're
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feeling like this is this is this is a
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hostile he sees guys like this every day
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that they haven't rec'd yet and
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therefore the jackie stewart you come
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along you slip in through the fence
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because it's an off day you pull out
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forty thousand dollars
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yeah sister two stones two stacks of
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twenty20 grandi he's not made of stone
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know is a you know he however much he's
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getting paid how much do you have to be
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paid a to not do not blink your eyes at
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40,000 cash I single divorced i'm going
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to assume if you're a NASCAR manager
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you've been divorced once okay unclear
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whether you've married again we want to
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be making six to thirteen million
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dollars a year to turn down that kind of
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40 grand but he's you know he doesn't
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even know you can cash he doesn't know
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what it's for Ivan Bryce's this is a
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simple plan money this is this is money
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in a duffel that's in a tree but it's
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you know to 40 grand you can hold that
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in your hand that's what I'm saying but
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I'm just waving it and I say here's the
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wager this is so easy that was only a
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one we talked a little turkey yeah when
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we double it so I say get your youngest
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hottest maverick driver out here at
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which point in the day dream who
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saunters into the frame but young
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maverick driver with a sneer with it
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with a hateful snoozy cocky John is so
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cocky these are in thin little guy and
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he's that he's full of like piss and
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vinegar any walk services what's going
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on boss and the the manager goes at
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rishikesh let the guy finish and I see
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get your cocky driver over here he can
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take his car you loan me whatever other
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car you got lying around doesn't even
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have to be that hot whatever you got
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this one you're working on right here
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now if your kid can beat me in one lap
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so we go out one lap he's ahead of me I
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quit I quit the game forever and I give
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him ten grand I give you 10 grand right
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uh-huh but if I'm in the lead at one lap
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then i'll give the kid a second lap to
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catch me
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Wow huh it's good wager this is so how
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you turned that like that down right if
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I'm ahead at the end of the second lap
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no no wait if he beats me up the second
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lap I gave him 20 grand u20 but if I'm
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ahead i'll give the kid a third lap to
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catch me but if at the end of the third
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lap I'm ahead neither you get anything
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and you let me drive for you in the next
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major NASCAR race always Yemeni as your
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yes of the hot car you don't even ask
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for the pink slip just saying you just
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thinking a chance to and give me a
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chance mr. this is how I'm gonna prove
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uh-huh so I had nothing to lose we got
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nothing to lose that's right just sent
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me these 200,000 cook dark attract right
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ok so if i wreck the car in the first
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lap then you guys what's going riding
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off this up with you guys eat 10 grand
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what if he's been looking what if he's
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leaving when you wrecked the car does
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that change it if I wrecked the car no
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matter which place i'm in ok no matter
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whether I'm first or second that I'm out
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ok I i I'm not going to like say let's
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do over get a different car
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yeah I didn't I was ahead you're never
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gonna do this again not write bad on me
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bring another car around so it's not if
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it's not you know it's not a risk-free
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wager for him he's risking this but he
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also stands to make a plan for pause I
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mean this is serious shit yeah this
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isn't just about your new career and
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you're gonna prove it you know what I
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can already tell by the end of this you
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guys are going to be buddy solving
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crimes in a van
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see what I'm saying I i see how this
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turns out he's going to admire my moxie
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and he's gonna end up probably firing
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the cocky kid he's going to give the
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cocky kid his walking papers because the
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guy that came along that understands him
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a little bit
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better even though you know like a
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fellow American knows how to drive this
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goddamn race car
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ok now this daydream proceeds from the
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the natural daydream the day dream of
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being the natural which I have all the
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time which is still talk to walk out
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onto the baseball field and say have
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your best pitcher throw 10 pitches at me
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if I don't knock every one of them out
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of the park then a walk out of here with
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my tail between my legs if I do then
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you'll make me designated hitter for the
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for the mariners ok they're never dated
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an american league team
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I don't remember okay there are other
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the Seattle team they're named after
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people that go to see ok
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yes it's they probably got a designated
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hitter sure yo you gotta have a
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designated hitter
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oh yeah we do we have designated do we I
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don't know I don't you know just you can
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be a pinch-hitter you get power hitter
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you could be somebody with slugging
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percentage point is put John behind the
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fucking wheel let him show you what he's
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let me show you what I can do like that
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kid doesn't know from moxie
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well the thing is if the kid is playing
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the game right right he's gonna let me
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leave him at the first lab because I
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just promised him double money at the
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second of all it's a double-reverse
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hostile that's how hostile works ride so
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he's like I got this I got this i'm
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gonna let him at and the manager might
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even be colluding with my cake it let
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him just knows ya at the end of the
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first lab and then dust him and we'll
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both walk out of here with 20 grand each
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I guess this guy thinks he's watched
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some bootleg movies yeah and you know
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let's let's just for the sake of
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argument say he's not going to spin out
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and kill himself
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this seems like this seems like a good
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15 minutes we're gonna spend here
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well uh and then i came home and i
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realized that that had that had taken up
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an hour my day
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you know I've got I've got seven hours
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invested seven-and-a-half hours invested
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it's in the lineup gems yeah i got an
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hour of the day like becoming a great
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NASCAR driver but you know don't don't
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feel bad about that you need to work out
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those rules
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I mean for the sake of the bed and the
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sake of the story you and make sure
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those does those rules really work i
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would not just goes up to the fence on
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an off day without knowing what the
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rules are going to be sure
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you're going to get you gotta get the
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hook in me got it that's exactly right
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you gotta set it up get the hook because
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managers like either i see a million you
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guys how did you get through the fence
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yeah i'm going to say well I got a
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certain have certain carriage where when
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I walked through a gap in the fence and
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the young person who is charged with
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keeping people out who looks over i look
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like there's just something about me
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that that sixty percent of the time
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those young people who are working in
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the security capacity figure I belong
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yeah right that's what's called
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privilege yeah I said Here I senior good
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at you you walk into it anywhere you go
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you walk in like you own the place
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that's right and and particularly
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walking into a nascar on an off day
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especially on an off day I'm gonna waltz
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I'm sure there are some characters that
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if you say excuse me sir can I see some
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you're gonna get up you know yeah you
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have your mouth full of fingers in your
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batch right right you know i am i'm lee
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after me i'm at my grandpas any cars
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yeah i'm the i'm stunned the last
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bootlegger I'm still running shine
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I don't seem to have identified I built
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the fence yeah that's right i was
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running shine will you were still waxing
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your toenails
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that's right we're running last set of
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canada haha oh right yes
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did I ever tell you about separate type
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about the fact that really going you
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don't sleep it there doing legs during
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Prohibition my great uncle al Alfred
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ruffner rochester took my dad to canada
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so my dad was born in 21 right so he
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took my dead Canada is a little as boy
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and filled his knickers with whiskey
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pints Yeah Yeah right so you know with a
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thicker work a nicker yeah I nikkor it's
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it sounds like a child jodhpur yeah you
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got a tall sock em and then bend the
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nikkor starts on
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meet the knee and then it's a big baggy
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pant and uncle al filled dad's stickers
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with whiskey bottles and I think they
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were wrapped in rags so they didn't
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clink smart and then he walked him back
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over the border here at the Peace Arch
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and dad told that told that story his
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whole life he was it was a whiskey mule
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he was a little bit he was a bootlegger
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even before he could even before you can
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play the harmonica go did he take the
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bent boom don't you ask our go yes he
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did not return that bed down that's a
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lot of money John the thing is I you
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know the thing is maybe the manager may
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be the team that I approach was a little
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bit underdog team right they've got this
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cocky driver but they just can't get it
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dialed in so this guy's willing to take
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a risk i'm not i'm not going up to the
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school bandodkar no I'm going up to the
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car i'm not going up to the one that's
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sponsored by castor oil
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this is gonna be more like like slice or
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or Scott brand toilet wipes it's gonna
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be a lesser brand
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yeah right i'm going up to the car in
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there that the foot of their cars like
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wet wipes which I'm saying to the
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manager there look at the sponsored by
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safe safeway in walgreens generic brands
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taco bell KFC know that's a big I'm not
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sure that's a big brand
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yeah they run a big team but know that
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so I go up to wet wipes kind of like you
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want to go to the show like you've been
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in this game a long time to like your
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you're Kevin Costner here right here and
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I'm telling you you're you're sitting
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here trying to get the trying to get the
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meat to throw heater
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that's right you to your tim robbins
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wait no II the kid tim robbins yeah the
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kid is tim robbins i'ma Costner of this
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OIC they just don't know you're the
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unknown Costner yeah you're not getting
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stuck into the fence on an off day
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looking through the fence there's a
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susan sarandon with some heart-shaped
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sunglasses out in the outfield
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yeah trying to score the game's going to
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game yep when and daughter and she's
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calling the NASCAR how many left turns
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do they make yep a lot for again um and
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and so this guy's got you know these got
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some skin in the game right this may be
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his last
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here if he doesn't if he doesn't win a
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NASCAR race he's gonna lose the team and
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he's gonna lose the team because the
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because the unscrupulous owners are
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counting on him losing right right so so
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so maybe it's like the producers right
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maybe they're looking for this thing to
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as they say crash and burn the only way
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they're gonna make their money back
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the only way they're going to avoid
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fraud is a is if the the toilet toilet
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wipes team goes that it's up
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yeah they got me they got the wet wipes
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sponsorship as a form of public shaming
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of this cold you know like down trodden
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brown shoe wear and start jumping manage
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that's the manager okay yeah he actually
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turned out to have a heart of gold as
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I'm again jumping ahead too far
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what I'm assuming is that he was
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partnered with this callow young driver
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because the callow young driver was
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forced upon him somehow either is maybe
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somebody might be stealing the plot of
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the pixar movie cars but I think maybe
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at some point there was there was a
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death or a danger that I could have
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prevented it
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I see that everything is on the line
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Scott's toilets people on the horn
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yeah you know he's a shadow over here
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there's a shadow over him and I'm the
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Cinderella story that's going to come
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and redeem all the past failures his and
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mine using sighs I guess so the kind of
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the problem is the other day on twitter
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i asked a question i said you know i
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just sent it out there to the two
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legions and I said do you live primarily
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in the real world or do you look
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primarily in your imagination and its
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first and then I know how people
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answered well no that's the thing i
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thought i would too but the initial uh
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the initial answers had a surprising
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number of people that were like the real
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world like there's a reason
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yeah that there's a reason it's the real
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that's what they want you to think I
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live in I'm living in the real world and
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then there were some that I that I found
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very curious which was I tried to live
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in the real world like living in my
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imagination has not benefited me I I
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work to stay in the world and I was like
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oh isn't that interesting like I'm I'm
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impressed by this by this because that
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of course there were people who were
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like imagination and most of the people
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live in their imagination just one word
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answers right imagination imagination
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imagination because they're assuming I'm
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gonna use my imagination to know what
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the hell they're doing in their magic
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apply or they don't want it revealed but
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I had all these real-world people I was
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like yes
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wow i didn't i didn't expect it right
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but then later on I think the
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imagination people started to wake up
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later in the day
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typical write it in the late afternoon
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they were like me met Mimi and it ended
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up being I think the imaginations want
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it but which would you say imagination
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yeah and I've heard i would like to say
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that I live in the real world but no I
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Tyee a vast amount of information
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processing i do is about nothing in
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particular it but I said to somebody the
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other day who was because that somebody
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in the real world came out me a cocktail
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party and said I I've heard your program
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em and I said hmm does that mean you've
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listened to only one episode and then
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they were abashed and they said well
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I've only just discovered and I started
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listening to it and I said no and then
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this person's spouse came over and
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should not listen to the program and she
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said tell me about this program and I'm
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like well let me put it this way i think
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that you have to be very smart to
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appreciate what my co-host says you have
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to be very smart to follow what he is
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whereas with me you do not have to be
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smart to follow what I'm saying you just
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have to keep an open mind and
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and she said huh that's an interesting
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description of a relationship and I said
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that's all I'm going to say I'm a
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nominal go have my fourth cupcake at
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this party just just a little bit a
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little bit of context what to listen for
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em right that's right that's right yeah
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but y'know ya when people talk about
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yeah but it's always a good time and we
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went missing about when Matt with this
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show with everything everything I said
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now I'm like you know what I care fuck
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all about the topic of almost anything
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and I'm much more interested in the
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people that are doing it so how do you
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describe here at step one go get
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interested in other people there they're
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kind of hard to like now go listen to
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219 episodes you really gonna start at
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the beginning but uh I should generally
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did you like a year to decide if you
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like it and you know she wants it was
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once you're gonna hate
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so that that's a good thing i said yeah
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i said you really thought you really got
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started to start something really got it
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you really gotta catch em all and uh and
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know what I always say to somebody who's
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interested in it who is pretending to be
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interested in the podcast at a cocktail
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party is you really have to listen to at
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least two episodes picked them at random
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you may get you may come up snake eyes
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you may pick two episodes that both
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drive you bananas but really there's
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something in it for everyone and uh yeah
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most people most people that I meet at
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cocktail parties or are you know they're
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polite how the cut looks phenomenal
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I love this okay what was crazy about
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the cupcakes and that do not let the the
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co-host of our other programs you know
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the one I'm talking about hear me say
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this but the hosts s of the party said I
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made the frosting with marshmallow fluff
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and I was immediately repulsed right
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because I now have a psychological block
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about marshmallow and be like somebody
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like saying i made this with blood
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plasma yeah exactly like that's
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interesting i totally don't eat that
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yeah do you like do you like black
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pudding mm well that's what I made the
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frosting out and so they were small
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cupcakes and I said I'll get out
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just out of politeness all eat this
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cupcake i'll make the sacrifice
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you don't want to hurt the hostesses
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feelings in a place i can write it gets
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it it's a birthday party pants on
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slightly by 81 and you know the problem
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with most cakes is the frosting the
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quality of the frost most most cakes are
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the same
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it's the frosting that's good or bad and
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if you buy a cake at the grocery store
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the the frosting is made out of like
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five pound bag of government sugar and
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like a moyel yeah right its lucky take
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the first fighting like this
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yeah right bacon fat and a bag of sugar
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but this marshmallow fluff frosting was
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exactly the frosting of your the best
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frosting that you could have asked for
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butter butter butter butter butter
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yeah and there was none of that like oh
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this one's made with sour cream
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no thank you oh this one's made with
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yogurt no thank you
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this one but no I don't want butter
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I don't want to I don't want sour butter
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show quite a measure of restraint
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professional job is to score baseball
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team score baseball games he season
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heart-shaped sunglasses or a sundress it
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not yeah he said he does he's sitting up
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in the booth and he's like you know we
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decide we make decisions i mean the umph
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decisions about certain things are going
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to get scored and it goes into the
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historical record and and people people
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that are vying for the batting
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championship have to you don't have to
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deal with are the results that as as we
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see them
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we're scouring the game for posterity
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it's a game of numbers John Yeah Yeah
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he said as much and I was thrilled to
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meet someone who was i mean this was an
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inside baseball conversation while he's
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inside baseball
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things that I don't and and do odd
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things and I have so many questions
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because I'm betting there's a lot of
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politics in that I talked about inside
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I understand what you're saying is
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deciding like what goes on the
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congressional record as regards baseball
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tough especially towards the end of the
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I bet that's a pretty politically
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charged job well it turns out all of it
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is i watch the baseball game the other
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day from behind home plate because i had
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a fancy friend who had fancy behind home
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plate tickets where you're not only
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watching the baseball game but if you
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want you can have like baby back ribs
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and chocolate cake brought to you home
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again you know it's like fancy people
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stuff and i'm watching the game and I'm
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with them with true baseball aficionados
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and there and at one point so we're
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right behind the plate so we have this
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unique view and my friend leans over and
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he says the arms not having it and I say
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what he means not having it and and he
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says the pitchers pitching inside and
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the ump isn't calling it strikes because
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the amps the Empress is sending sending
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the message to the picture that he wants
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to see a baseball game and I said the
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pumpkin send a message to the picture
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saying he wants to see a baseball game
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Wow and he was like yeah you know
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sometimes sometimes throwing inside
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trying to you know trying to brush the
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batter back like yeah sure that's part
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of the baseball game
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you can't just sit there and do it all
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day this is not going to school
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that was gonna start not calling strikes
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because he wants to see that picture put
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it over the plate and I was like the
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compass that involved in the game like
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whoa and then at certain point the
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opposing pitcher beamed our guy a little
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chin music uh-huh and my friends were
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like chuckle chuckle chuckle they said
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watch in the next inning
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we're gonna be in there guy yeah and I
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said what we've been a guy just because
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they begin to God clean pro quo Clarice
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that's right don't let them get away
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being a guy that you gotta be in there
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guy many empty the pictures I heard them
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say that i've heard I've heard it said
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by baseball players I what I did watch a
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documentary about the history of the
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fastball and i believe that is
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considered a strategic thing to do not
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simply an emotional irrational thing to
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yeah yeah right i mean you gotta you
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gotta do it do it on behalf of your team
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going to happen here they were looking
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at the lineup in there like that guy's
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gonna get beam and then that guy stood
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up to the plate and I said you're
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telling me he knows he's about to get
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beat and they said yeah and then
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something went awry
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he was in the he was in the the box the
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warm-up box the on deck circle he was on
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the in the on deck circle swinging his
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bat with a with like a heavy doughnut on
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and then the guy right in front of him
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the one who wasn't going to get being he
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clocked the ball somewhere and now that
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now the Mariners no longer had the
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option of that would have had the guy on
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yeah right so they had to revise the
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plan and by the end of the game they
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hadn't been to this guy then being
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anybody and it felt like that was
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something in them that was something in
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the to do list that might have
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interesting as you can't you can't you
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can't be back
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a guy by the end of the game doesn't
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reset you can't you can't hold a grudge
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you can say well next time we're in
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Pittsburgh you're gonna get hit in the
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well i know that the the adages what you
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there's no quibbling in baseball or
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there's no quit baseball there's no
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question baseball that was your para
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right there's no question baseball but i
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don't i don't remember ever reading a
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thing that said there are no grudges in
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baseball
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oh I see I think baseball's fully I
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think it's half made of great
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oh yeah yeah it's like you can't have
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the wall without the the mortar and
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brick exactly what their specs it'sit's
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fastback with grudges something about
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the the Blue Jays the Blue Jays have
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some hot rod hitter who's a little bit
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long in the tooth em but he's putting
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the balls over the fence and there was
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something when a guy from the Texas
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Rangers came to punch him in the nose
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about something that happened the year
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Oh interesting yeah now on the field
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like you got a bit gotta have something
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going on to get punched on the field who
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I don't know that much about baseball I
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know I couldn't tell you what the inflow
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infield fly rule was don't even know
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what the outfield fly rule but this guy
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does he's scoring the freaking game for
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those of you listening who don't know
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what that means it means they sit with a
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pencil and a piece of paper and
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everything that happens on the baseball
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field they write it down and adjudicated
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in the moment is like graphical notation
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for something easy like you can say I
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like a as a strikeout and like if it's a
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two-balled somebody catches you throw
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somebody out first like every player on
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the team has a number great wanting that
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your to his catcher three is first base
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etc I used to do it was the only way i
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can find baseball interesting was to
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keep screaming you scored baseball
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I'm just fine yeah I i missed out on so
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much as an American kid really part
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probably by living in Alaska and partly
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by not reading superhero comics and
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partly by not understanding sports
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yeah things it was it was a trifecta
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living in Alaska puts you in a certain
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kind of daylight not reading superhero
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comics makes you feel I guess not
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understand the full scope of human
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possibility including mutants also you
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you it sounds like you don't know how to
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describe this up something i'm putting a
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value statement on it but you sound like
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you did not have a lot of like close
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friends right then and now
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mm um and then I don't either
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right here 12 years old like reading
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joseph conrad doesn't make you other
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friends very very quickly
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mhm you should be reading superhero and
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also sports i would stand and watch the
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sports or you know wouldn't watch the
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sports i would watch the kids watch the
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and just feel like I've item mean I love
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I love baseball as a kid but like as I
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stand here today and i know this is like
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up either hateable or fashionable thing
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to say but i just don't get it i'm going
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to kind of get it I get it any most
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intellectual abstract way but it's
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completely baffling to me how many of my
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friends are super into sports and that's
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i'm not saying that to be a dick I mean
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I can watch a baseball game like the bar
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sports teams in the playoffs or whatever
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watching it's fun but like it's it's and
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I really i honestly don't mean this as
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like criticism it's just honestly
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baffling to me making the same way maybe
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that same some people how can you be
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that into music or how could you believe
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that into politics more that into
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crafting for that matter but like the
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genuine over get the crafting thing
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yeah you should come back to Xtreme
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towels right well the thing about felt
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is it feels so nice it is now so soft
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yeah yeah I am but the genuine obviously
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very clear emotional tumult that I see
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and my friends who follow baseball when
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I was getting the free baby back ribs
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and chocolate cake brought to me I
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understood why you love baseball
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no I would I wouldn't say anything and
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then when I realized that the lump was
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like nope that you know someone's might
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call that a strike
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I might call that a strike at a
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different point in the game but right
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now I'd like to see some baseball sir it
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wasn't having it
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yeah and you know in the I'm a base of
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the baseball pitcher on the baseball
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catcher are kind of looking up at him
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like seriously but they're looking at
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each other like when he wants to see
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some baseball so let's give them some
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baseball but that but put that next ball
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right over the middle so I had no idea
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all that was going on because i don't
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think that that's going on in soccer but
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maybe maybe the refs out there on the
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field are our that involved in the game
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like they're determining the I guess
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basketball rafts are all the time
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determining the fate of the that's
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another documentary i watched about Dana
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about a basketball referee who is
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betting on games that he was
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adjudicating was really very interest
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whoo-hoo yeah yeah yeahs sneaker Rama a
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sports documentary can be a good
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document is a lot of very good sports
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documentaries on netflix i don't know if
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netflix but there's a lot of very good
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documentaries on their agreed that whole
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3430 then tastic there's an army corps
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of those that are amongst the best
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documentaries I've ever seen
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yep yep i enjoyed them very much even on
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the Chicago Bears was really good at the
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85 chicago bears was like surprisingly
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engrossing to me what are the Mannings
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the UI Manning and the peyton manning
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and the other hand out the Mannings is
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the Mannings is are there are sports
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dynasty they all seem like very nice
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people and who can fault a man I guess
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is the that's right on their family
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yeah okay who can fault demanding but
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let me ask you let me ax you
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yeah this may be another question to put
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to the put to Twitter okay do you have a
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lot of close friends right
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do you mean do you have food because for
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the last several months I've been my
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life has been in a certain amount of
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embroil moment that I've been you know
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I'm been in the process of that one very
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short sentence I saw you walk through
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such a fucking hedge maze
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oh and BTW do you leave the band your
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pile and got the landing telephone
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oilman and when you book but when but
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when you are in volume
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I it is sometimes very rarely but
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sometimes you say hoo boy today was a
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rough go
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just just because the waters were
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tumultuous yep right it's not the boat
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is sound the wind is in my sales but the
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what you know there are seven foot waves
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let's calm their swells out on the sea i
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rounded Neah Bay out of the Strait of
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Juan de Fuca and i still remember songs
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and I realize the sea was there to kill
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me and um
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and so I've said on on many occasions in
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the last several months boy i would just
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like someone to talk to and I pulled up
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my address book which has literally
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thousands of names in it because I'm a
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social person i know a lot of people and
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I started scrolling and I came to the
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name and i said i could probably talk to
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that person but then I kind of played
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the conversation out a little bit i was
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like yeah they're they're probably going
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to start there it's going to start
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feeling like they're busy right with me
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when you're when you're like hey you got
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a second to talk in there like sure what
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he got and then you say well yeah I was
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come on the high seas right now and then
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you start to feel like they are busier
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than they let on at first like you know
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actually I just had a minute and there's
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a pot on the stove and tonight's the
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night i wash my hair so I'm scroll down
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and I'm like I'm playing this
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conversation out and i am going I'm
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going I'm going I'm like I'm not a
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single person of all my good friends
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can I just done burned myself in of
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these matters and i know that other
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people even people very close to me have
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no trouble sharing their whole kit and
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caboodle
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yeah with not just one but a whole
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handful of friends maybe half a dozen to
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a dozen friends then it seemed it's like
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a normal thing
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yeah well you just calling and burden
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yourself
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yeah I've got a really bad toothache and
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uh you know and something i think a bug
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crawled inside my penis who and I just
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needed to talk to somebody absolutely
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and you know if I had a bug in my penis
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i would i'd be reticent to bring that up
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even to a good pal because it's not a
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it's not a thing that they that I would
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probably share with them and they would
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just be in that like tut-tut clock clock
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posture
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everything's gonna be fine so I feel
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like I spare them and myself the
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uncomfortableness of it but but i think
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what ultimately that means is i don't
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know i do not have
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what Oh a whole bunch of friends that I
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would then i would think of as and and
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it ends up being like is it the is it
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the friends that I don't have or is it
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within myself a an incapacity i think
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that is a a very wise and salient
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question
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it's not that you don't have the friends
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it's like do you have the kinds of
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relationships where that's the kind of
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thing you feel okay about doing you feel
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capable of doing it isn't that part of
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yeah yeah I mean like I i I'm i have
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lots of people who like I'm sure I could
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call and say like you know especially
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you call and say like I need help with a
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problem right you could say like I can't
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figure out how to fix my internet and
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you could call a friend for that kind of
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thing a lot of friends for them but now
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I think a lot of it is inside of us in
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our own expectations of like what's
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what's okay to do and it's ya know not
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nearly as not nearly as much as i did i
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will say in college after college there
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was a pretty steep drop-off in the
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number of good acquaintances to friends
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to close friends that I have no it's on
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your college was piqued friendship for
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me I think premier was high school
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me I think premier was high school
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by the time I got to college I was I was
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already surprised my freshman year in
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college at how my friends in college
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were like pals but not i but i wasn't
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clothes and clothes to them complete and
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and my high school friends and I were
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very competitive week with each other
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and so that closeness was also a fraught
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with a lot of competition and a lot of
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like a like dread right you because your
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friends were the ones that knew your
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your darkest secrets and they were the
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ones that were also trying to like kick
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you in the knee and now is the way that
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was high school for me and it felt very
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we felt we were very close we were a
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tight-knit group who was trying to
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destroy itself and each other all the
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fascinated me know and i got splits
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pretty normal thing yeah and in college
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it was just like okay let's go get some
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beer and you know do some stuff I was
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like oh uh huh i didn't i didn't realize
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that that that experience wasn't going
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to be reduced located and everything I
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did the rest of my life that Pat never
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did I i took so much for granted on
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several fronts around that particular
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issue around friendship right well just
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a just the yeah just the relative ease
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especially with the maybe with the
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school that I went to the fact that it
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was small but I mean just the fact that
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like you are first in proximity to many
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many peers and you know the the Sorting
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Hat has made it so that you're around
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peers who are probably kind of
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equivalent to you in a lot of ways maybe
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even more so than nice-looking could be
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from the same neighborhood in high
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school but and I don't know there's a
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funny combination of like people who are
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like you people who are not like you and
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you have to see them you have to go to
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the cafeteria you have to go to class
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you have to have a roommate in most
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cases and all of those things kind of
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make it non-optional to just sit in your
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room with your flight suit you've got to
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go out and you've got to be around and
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then in my case I'm this could be true
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lots of places but I mean I can't
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imagine going someplace like FSU like
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you've gotta join organizations because
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otherwise how do you meet the more
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people there are the last chance that
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you'll make a friend
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where am i still like there are people
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that I was friends with orientation week
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that you know I became like terrific
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friends with and then you grow with that
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and but there's no nobody tells you how
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much that just goes away and now you're
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playing softball with people from work
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and you said what what has my life
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become don't even like wings that much
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less not sure I do like wings with a
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good thing is now it's now you've gone
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it's gone from what saved by the bell to
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you know a the office or whatever like
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you're on a different show now
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yeah yeah you're in 80 Mary Tyler Moore
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well and and i have the additional
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problem of wanting to talk about my
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feelings which I know it right don't
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like silence
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oh no I'm ongoing no yeah i know but but
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that but I but that was like an
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illustrious of silence not that you
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don't also like talking about feelings
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i'm looking about I talking about ideas
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and i like i like talking about things
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that that were all equally or someone
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equally excited to talk about something
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that's novel in different but most of
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the stuff that makes for easy social
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intercourse is utterly insufferable to
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yeah and and very little of it because I
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guess I like talking about my feelings
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because i'm looking for patterns and i
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want to i want to solve for x and I want
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to and I feel like feelings are well as
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as a my good friend Mike Squires you say
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John feelings are real and surreal and
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feelings are real and so i'm using
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feelings as a way of sorting and but in
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talking about your feelings you're
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talking about things that are
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embarrassing almost immediately right
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like boy
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hey it was he feels unseemly to a lot of
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men now to talk about something and say
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something real but that's kind of what I
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mean to talk about something talk about
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something that you have not already
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composed a complete and widely
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acceptable unified field theory about
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yeah sure
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and it happens all the time when I'm
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like oh boy i feel like because i want
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to talk about feelings about my
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relationships with other guys like hey I
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was feeling kind of a little bit like
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left out of that the other day and I
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sort of expected a phone call and didn't
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get it so I'm a little bit my nose a
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little out of joint and just thought I
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should tell you do you like it when
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people talk about that with you
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yeah yeah because I'm like oh wow like
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okay brings not necessarily like an
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angry thing that may be a clarification
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thing you like when people bring you
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some things to sort of redress and all
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over em but it happens so rarely because
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it is embarrassing and also it requires
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that you be processing your own feelings
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in real time so that you know oh you
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know like i have a problem here it's
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mostly my problem
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soso but it's so hard to talk it's one
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of those things where like there's so
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many things I wish we could talk about
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without all the emotional valence and
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nothing is more emotional valence and
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talking about feelings so it's very very
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difficult to talk about feelings as a
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thing without it becoming this sounds
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really obvious but i think it's not it's
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it you can you can talk about all kinds
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of things in kind of intellectually but
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it's difficult to talk about your
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yeah you try talking about it as a thing
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without injecting this understandably
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irrational blind spot that you have in
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your heart and defensive nas's the
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immediate reaction on for most people
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I you know hey I wanted to talk about
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this I feel bad well that's not my
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problem and it's like well I wasn't
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saying what's your problem i was saying
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is my problem but involves you and well
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and that's and I'm not asking for a
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solution and after I'm just you know I
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feel like the solution is probably in me
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telling you it and then you telling me
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that that's either a like reasonable or
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unreasonable and I was talking about but
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but you know in so many cases the
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reaction is from people of all stripes
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like whoa why are you coming to me with
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this like what do you want from and that
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and so it's only in your very most
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intimate relationships where you're
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forced to learn to talk about your
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feelings and even that is super
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difficult but like I have so many guy
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friends from long long times and i'll
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say how God here's my feelings and my
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other feelings are my feelings and they
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listened politely and then you know
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there's sort of that moment where you
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like okay tag now you reciprocate and
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they go well everything is probably
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going to turn out ok
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hey did you ever notice
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that some you know some girls mothers
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are bigger than other girls mothers
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right and I'm like whoa why without you
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know like i just gave you like all this
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interesting Grist and they're like yep
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but I don't run a mill so oh you just
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gave me a big bag wrist and I don't know
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what to do with it going to ya goin in
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the bar and I have nowhere to put they
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have nowhere to put this Grist and also
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i think chris is not what you want in
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the milk yeah oh well you're breaking my
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milk you know its IP like my
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non-existent nipple when winter comes I
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might use this Grist in the dry cleaners
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coming you know winter is coming
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yeah I get so so so that always makes me
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feel ultimately like not that my friends
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are insufficient because it's almost
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universal among my friends but it makes
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me feel like I'm i'm asking too much or
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I want something unreasonable and that
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kind of piles back on me like not only
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do I have these feelings not only do I
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want to express these feelings to my
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people and have them reciprocate but
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that is an unreasonable desire which
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again puts me in touch with the world so
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then I'm sitting there like what is
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their else to do but suck your thumb
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I mean I suppose I could write a novel
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it seems like people write novels for
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that reason maybe yeah but you're
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looking for something fairly specific um
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I don't expect gender but i think this
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has something to do with gender &
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something to do with the time in the era
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but you're looking for something that
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would have fit much more comfortably
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into i'm going to say the early to mid
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seventies when a time when it was it was
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just kind of expected that you would
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talk a lot about lots of different kinds
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of things things that could be awkward I
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want to really get down documentary
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first part of a documentary about
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basically the birth of the starting 15
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anyway of the women various women's
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movements that was very interesting
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about all the different offshoots in the
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groups and you know who felt left out
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where and but there's just this constant
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threat of like talking about our life
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talking about our life he lived
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experience
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and I think that was something that was
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considered very appropriate and
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important at a certain time in a way
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that it's not right now
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well I always felt that that I think
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they're absolutely right that there is
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something like gender encoded in it I
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always felt like the men of the
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seventies were talking about their
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feelings were doing it as a form of
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warfare
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well that certainly is borne out by this
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documentary but yeah it's just it's just
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kind of its inherent in it you see the
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hippie dads are like well let's sit and
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talk about our feelings and what they
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mean is fuck you you know mines I'm
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totally gonna get laid for this right
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I'm gonna get later I'm gonna I'm gonna
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come out the other side and will be
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proved right but like what would
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traditionally all of my closest friends
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have been women and back before
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gender normative was a term back when
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you know times were less poor what were
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more primitive i used to say that i felt
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like i had a female mind that I you know
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that my best friends were all women and
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I could you know and I was more
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comfortable thinking in thinking in what
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I at the time would have called like Oh
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a womanly way about things I was
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processing things socially I was
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probably just have to organization to
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potentially avoid a minefield here and I
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don't need to correct you but i think
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it's it's not we're saying in terms of
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of like what gear you got under your
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belt gender but in a more in thinking
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more like again and yang sort of way
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right yes I mean I don't more feminine
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more like open generative what is
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typically associated don't is that fair
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to say sure and I don't and I feel like
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I'm you know I'm I'm apologizing to say
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this advanced yeah I'm apologizing in
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advance by saying that this is that this
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description of my thinking was located
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in the past so I don't need any email
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but you know that in contrast to all of
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my male friends who just you just are
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glassy eyed when I try to talk to them
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about this and the problem is that my
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that my a woman friends who we can sit
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and talk this way about all kinds of
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things they're not as receptive to me
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talking about my
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I I relationship issues now for whatever
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reason because everyone is so where were
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older everyone has partnered off it said
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it's a different world and there I don't
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have that same kind of access to you
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know like a group of women that accept
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me as one of their own and that we can
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talk about stuff sort of freewheeling
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and there's always you know there's also
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there's always energy and chemistry in
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those relationships where where there
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are often feelings of like well we're
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really good friends
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Oh feelings from both directions like
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we're really good friends we talked so
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well together eventually we're going to
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fall fall into a romantic relationship
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with one another but in the meantime
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let's enjoy this this like closeness
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that we feel and that's just not thats
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that's much less a part of my just daily
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world than it was 15 years ago and so
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I'm you know I so there is something
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sort of tribal about it to that I'm like
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one of the one of the males that got
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pushed out of the herd a little bit as
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the herd matured you know like a just
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sort of an old an old dear that like
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little by little the social pressures of
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the deer herd like well you go find your
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own turf just stand here and watch your
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stories don't like there's some salt
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you're a 24-point dear now and they're
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just not room for your antlers here and
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and yea big
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maybe you're 2.2 it's making me you know
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like I'm just ripe I'm I'm that like I'm
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in the crosshairs of every hunter in the
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county so so that's I guess why all the
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daydreaming
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did you get a chance to get on the track
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in my day dream no yeah i mean they did
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so what happened I mean if I could ask
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you you kind of left me on help me
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hanging here
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did you take the bat sure he took the
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bed i beat the kid in three in three
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I posited i pocketed the 40 grand again
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like without with a with a swagger and
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in a little way like this 40 grand still
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here in my pocket like when it comes
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time when in the race the carburetor
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breaks and we're a scrappy little a
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little wet wipes team and the guys up
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ahead officer like rubbing their hands
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can go on back
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haha where but we can't lose you know
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what they're going to lose and by that
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we cannot lose then I pull the 40 grand
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out throw it down on the table and say
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get a new carburetor right like you over
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to no excuse
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yeah go over to the rich team and throw
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that 40 grand down and that's
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slicked-back hair sleazeball who runs
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the rich team
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yeah it's gonna take it he's gonna take
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it as a dare a challenge to his own
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thing and he's gonna say you know what
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I'm going to sell you that carburetor
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because i feel like i'm still gonna beat
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you i'm gonna give you the part because
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I feel like I feel like when I thought
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when I do beat you
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it's going to quadruple your shame
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because I didn't keep the part from you
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you know but it's also a little
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sportsman like to it's in the spirit of
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sportsmanship so that 40 grams going to
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come back into the story I didn't play
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that's that I didn't play the story out
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that me I mean you don't get ahead of
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yourself you know when you're ready
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you'll go to the next chapter
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yeah so i just i got as far as coming
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you know climbing out of the NASCAR and
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the kid you know the the whiny kid is
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like well it's not fair because he
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blankety blankety blankety Thursday
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throws helmet on the ground really hard
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through someone on the ground and then
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and then the manager boys the manager
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put his hand up in the kids faces like
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you know pack your bag noho right and
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then it's because he's looking at me
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he's like what do you got
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how do you do it at your age especially
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and I'm like stamina is one of the
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just so at this point you had you just
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made your point you you slink off
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nothing coffee carry yourself like a
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gentleman doodoo head out through the
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fence again don't know this is the
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beginning of a wonderful relationship
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yeah this is the beginning of the fall
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beautiful friendship as they set up a
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one-year relationship uh-huh right
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because I'm gonna take this underdog
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team to the championship ring in one
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year and then i'm going to disappear
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again I don't know what I'm gonna walk
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out walk out of the grandstand and
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somebody's gonna go
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hey ace and i'm going to turn around and
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they're going to say it's probably Susan
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Sarandon yeah yeah she's gonna say we're
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gonna see you next year and then I'm
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gonna like I don't know twirl my fedora
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or or take my time I stick pin and toss
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it to her yeah she shouldn't have the
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scorecard and it's got its got a
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lipstick kiss on it
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lipstick kiss on it right maybe I take a
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what up for the whiskey Clank Clank
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spitballin spitball mm this is this is
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what it's like in the writers room
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well sure of all these sitcoms that you
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know I follow so many people that work
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in in sitcoms right men writing and
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writing and I saw a picture after the
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emmys this year of someone i know Neil
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taken me with about 30 other people
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30 other dopes and they're all holding
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Emmy yeah and the person I knew who is
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taking me
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I said she can't possibly have also won
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an Emmy for that show because I know
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what she does on it and please God
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because it's not a good program
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I've never seen the program ok but you
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can look at you enemies for all kinds of
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well that's what I'm saying and I'm
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thinking to myself if you can just be
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just win an Emmy like all these clowns
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yeah well I've made a terrible choice in
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life to not be in one of those rooms
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sitting there sharpening pencils or
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whatever you know or or particularly
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talk about a technical a me
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or something right i mean why am I not
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sit enthroned cards into a hat for
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throwing cards through a pumpkin
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yeah whatever you're throwing cars
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through a watermelon and a watermelon
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and in that room when somebody waltzes
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in and says you know what everybody in
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this room won an Emmy because it's not
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you specifically it's the room that one
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plural you I'm never going to be in a
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room that wins an emmy man i don't think
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you might you might surprise yourself
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you might you might surprise yourself i
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see i think i see you as maybe like your
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guests you're like a guest star
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yep or karate for like I still think
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I've said this to you for 10 years now
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PBS documentary I'm telling you you know
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all those people whose career in
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Hollywood doesn't start until they're 60
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safety like the grandma moses of emmy
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yeah right i'm gonna i'm gonna have a
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career of whatever my current career is
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sure and then at some point somebody's
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I'm gonna be sitting in a soda shop e
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uh-huh having a malted and somebody's
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gonna waltz in and say we're looking for
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the new lebowski yeah or we want
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somebody to play the old trapper or
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maybe uh maybe Silicon Valley types have
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aged in the next 15 years and now the
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instead of the trope being like
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20-something Kalos driving Stanford grad
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yeah the new trope is so although
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Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are like
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thrashed from years of drinking Soylent
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oh I said he never talking about their
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bodies ravaged yeah and now they look 60
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when they're actually 40 and because i
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have vitality sure it's women stamina
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got stamina when I'm 60 I'm going to
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read as a thrashed forty-year-old I see
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you can play you can play thrashed oh
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yeah absolutely i noticed the other day
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i was walking along and I was trying to
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imagine being cast in a in a film as the
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wise but stoned
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sort of sage friend of the protagonist
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and interesting right the slightly
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stoned because that's what that's what
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makes his it contextualizes this Aegis
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you can't just have the friend of the
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protagonist just be a flat-out sage
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there's got to be something some chink
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in his armor
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mmm that that makes you that makes him
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relatable and so in this case it would
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be like oh sure he's like some he's a
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burnout m and so I was walking along
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practicing my burnout eyes mmm
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but you know the burnout eyes have to
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not be so burned out there not like that
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guy that the the white guy in all the
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dave chappelle skits who plays the
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stoner mhm it they have to have the BF
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have eyes that communicate
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I smoked a lot of weed but maybe I don't
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smoke it anymore
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maybe now I'm just I'm just taking it in
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in pill form and it's not in its not its
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not hindering my ability to be smart and
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present but it has given me insight into
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the sea the sea writ large
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yeah uh-huh and so I was walking along
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as practicing my stoner eyes which I
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understood to be who lifted heavy lidded
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but with eyebrows up
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oh I'm doing it now i can see exactly
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what you mean so you make you make the
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lids of the eyes like kinda but then
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eyebrows up because you're like in
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you're in it you're in the game you're
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not just like asleep I browser up with
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your lids are heavy and then yeah and
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then kind of you know you're just you're
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talking softly but it's not it's more
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like stoner voice no no right you're
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talking but you have a normal voice but
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it's a little bit like softer a little
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bit of little bit of a book fri yeah and
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you're really speak elliptically and
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sometimes accidentally come upon
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something that could really brilliant
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just kind of slide down here where the
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room is floored
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yeah that's it that's it that's why
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you're there that's the whole reason you
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get rid of
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plot to it's not exactly shaggy it's not
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exactly the bow ski and it's not quite
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morgan freeman no no but he's like I got
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you know I have this problem that is the
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artificial problem that is at the center
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of this film sure we need that and and
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you know and like you're here because
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you because you're the protagonists wise
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friend and but it said but here's the
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here's the gag right here's how I win an
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award to make a wolf
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yeah this is this is a serious film it's
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not a comedy it's not a stoner comedy
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ah the the so the wise stoned friend is
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actually like the the the caddy or the
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limo driver right outside somebody in a
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in a Drama you let your attorney here
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the magical negro
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yeah that's right there's there are real
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stakes here and uh and i'm somewhat
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maybe mystical mi really there did I
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come through the cloud room and this is
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the clothes and this is where because
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it's a tech documentary I maybe I came
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through the clewd who but but so I i
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have this wisdom but I'm also like it's
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it's like a good will hunting situation
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where where maybe there's an Oscar and
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oh now are you are you run Williams or
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or the are Matt Damon I i think in this
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scenario i'm robin williams is too late
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for me to be mad game
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hmm i had a window I'd a window where I
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could have been mad and I was to window
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I was do another thing
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yeah yeah but now i feel like i could be
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the robin williams in a film that can be
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very effective John right i think i
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would enjoy it enjoy the movie is there
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are tears coming to your eyes right now
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a little bit around a little high right
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yeah i can try and catch a nap today
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well I've got I've got one major
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dramatic thing going on in my life which
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is that there are a couple of people
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want just one major one just like okay
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alright get just one today well it's
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actually a two-part problem there are
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two people both of whom so actually
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actually three people but only two of
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ok so there are three people do you want
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this on the show
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well I'm I'm I'm adjudicating I'm
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can you hear you find finding your way
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through the hedge maze again
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yeah Here I am hedge maze i'm trying to
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find the way this is there are three
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people all three of whom are struggling
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with drugs and alcohol
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oh no that wasn't what I expected yeah
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and three people struggling in very
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different ways are you
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sponsors for them as well so I so they
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have all three of them reached out to me
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from their various quadrants of the
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world saying and some of them are not in
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Seattle but are here in seattle now and
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all three of them are like I'm in this
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situation I don't know how to proceed
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and I might you know my traditional
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method of handling this situation is
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like well do you really want to do
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something about it or just bullshitting
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me because I don't need it i don't need
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more bullshit and I was talking to a
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fourth friend a woman with with much
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experience in life and she said um
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apropos of nothing like we were not
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talking about this situation all we're
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talking about something else and she
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said I just feel like I need to be
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giving back all the time and I need to
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be practicing the humility of giving
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back without ranking my contribution or
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ranking the receiver of my contribution
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but just like Here I am I'm person in
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the world what can I do well just like
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doing with a full heart
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yeah you don't have to be you don't have
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to be somebody that I want something
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from or somebody important for me to
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help you and i'm not i'm not taking this
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off I'm not putting this in a bank
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anywhere and so I took that I took her
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advice to be a a message from the the
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Great Spirit and I realized oh I was
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kinda I was not doing my work I was not
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doing my job for these three people each
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in their own way they all came at once
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and I needed to be more selfless here
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and actually not say are you serious
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about this because I've got a I've got
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jewels to stack right but say like what
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can i do i'll meet you for me for
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something for that
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and uh and so what I have what I have
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orchestrated is that I'm going to meet
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one of the people and then he and i are
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going to go visit the second person so x
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so x that the the first person is going
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to be now also part of the operation to
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help the second person and helping the
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second person will help the first person
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on my goodness
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ok and help me yes so that's in my plan
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for the afternoon but I've only had a
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three-and-a-half hours of sleep even
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lineup jewels and feel little cookie
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wawa and I'm not sure whether that makes
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me more helpful less helpful or just
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maybe i'm just maybe I'm the the person
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that's in the present the one is going
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to get help the most you never know
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maybe that's right maybe I'm the one
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living in the real world today and not
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my imagination so a but i really want to
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take a nap and I'm thinking kind can i
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fit nap into all of this i don't i don't
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maybe maybe not sure little shorty would
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help me look for the 20 minute nap it
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might help
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well how do you feel about an hour and a
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half long now that's the perfect now
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using our happens it's not so much that
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matches up with your rhythms you gotta
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find out what your specific rhythm in
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the 90 minutes is about what the rhythm
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is your day like it down you can get
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down get down get funky getting funky
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you can get back up right reasons gonna
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get you
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mhm is going to get to em and your thing
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you do is you can put your phone in
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another room in like airplane mode or
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something turned off you plug in
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Michigan some power for the day and also
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you're not going to line up tools let me
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ask you this
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yeah is that real anymore is that a
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realistic expectation anymore not even
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started by we fought our phones for a
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long time
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yeah we did we it wasn't even much of a
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valiant fight not not many of us really
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put up a fight but we fought that we
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made a game attempt at it we put it over
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there we
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shut it off we went out for the day
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without it but is it real anymore that
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we're is that a game that we're even
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going to keep playing
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I don't know I turned a corner at some
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point in the last definitely last year
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probably the last few months I was like
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well now this is just a thing now like I
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there's so much stuff I i do I don't
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want to put too strongly but I really do
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feel like rely upon there's the one
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thing of like I need to know if
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something happened in my little world
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that I have to take care of right now
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that's always been a thing I could have
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a flip phone for that but honestly for
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things like even if it's just stuff like
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you know
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yeah paying for something with Apple pay
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or for being able to look something up
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or whatever I I don't know I I feel like
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for better or for worse it's definitely
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gone from being something I make fun of
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everybody about to go well this is kind
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of the new normal new norm
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I mean you no not again I don't say that
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well that's good or bad but I'm saying
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it's it's not as weird as it used to be
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i just realized that if Google if the
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goog look again if the google had put
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out a phone that wasn't trying to be
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every phone for everybody
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it wasn't trying to be all things to all
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people but google had put out a phone
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that just googled Oh think about that
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prong google and put out a google phone
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that phoned and googled only mmm
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there was no other app it did perform no
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other function i guess it just just a
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good it's almost like this emergency
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phones you can get like for a kid or
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keeping your car it's got a really long
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life and but it's only meant to be used
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like you see in this case like if I
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really really need to find Hamilton
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tickets i do it right now if I need to
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find where the closest you know I knew
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the places
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well because I send my spend most of my
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time on my phone on you know using the
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google to to get around
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sure and I don't need other stuff i
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really don't i don't need other stuff i
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can i can interact mostly with the world
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through cuz I'm just trying to figure
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out when this building was built
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I'm trying to figure out what the
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infield fly rule is yeah I'm trying to
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figure out who sank the Lusitania
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somebody somebody actually asked me the
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other day who I thought something main
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like really likes that was the spanish
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well no I mean though there's the
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conspiracy theorists say that we sank
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the main oh yeah who do we say sacaton
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all the Spanish thats persist
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precipitated the spanish-american war i
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am of the opinion that it was an
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accident but I couldn't believe that I
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was being in treated into the
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conversation who sank the mean and I
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feel like that's the kind of thing I
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mean I don't need google to answer that
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question but in the course of a day
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there are just enough things that I need
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to resort to google that that not
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carrying my phone just doesn't feel
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smart because because I used to sit and
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think like well I don't know how many
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how many angels can dance on the head of
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a pin and I let that go
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it would be now no way to find out but
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no way to find out is just like well
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maybe when i get home i can look at the
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Encyclopedia if I care that much but i
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don't but now if somebody says how many
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angels can dance on the head of a pin
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I'm like I'd sure like to know that now
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that you brought it up and you google it
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and the internets never gonna lie to you
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and then you know and then you go down
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there we go through the rest of your
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life going like I one time I did a
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little research on that i did a little
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bit already recently i kinda want to try
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how many angels can dance on the nominee
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angels can dance on the head of a pin
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I haven't I have a group of that reason
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she gives me a link to wiki it doesn't
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really provide an answer
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yeah okay let's say that wikipedia phone
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wikipedia phone you don't even need
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google google just gonna end up
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directing you to a yelp review is a
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happy meal if I that's right and if i
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could i think there are a lot of people
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who would just carry your phone and
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those were the people i would exclude
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from my log would love some kind of
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beacon let me know in their nearby right
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somebody would like a little Yelp symbol
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hovering over their head that you could
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just has a a as a mario brother you
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could just like blanc them unless
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they're calling and you know
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tell their running game and party but if
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I had just a wiki phone
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wikipedia from that did nothing else
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just wiki'd i think i would just carry
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that I think I would
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well wait a minute we need a camera and
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then see the whole thing the wheels come
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ah if your wiki phone has a camera yeah
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then then it might as well be an iphone
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yeah there are 0
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