Ep. 227: "Fifth Knob"
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hello hey John I Merlin how's it going
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re well alright here's Andres do I can
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you subdue yeah yeah I got in the groove
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with them the kind of a kind of Public
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Radio discussion
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you got those before yeah you can do it
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i turn my volume down to my too low
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no good ok I were worried about
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overdriving why because i like to keep a
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certain tone of the show and I don't
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really have skills with the microphone
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now I see what is the tone you like to
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keep the show I like to stay in the
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moment huh
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that's my tuna uh-huh I'm yeah I'm here
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for whatever comes along you know
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whatever happens but yesterday the
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moment is right
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not a sound really quiet you do yeah why
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you worried about overdriving always
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felt like you know because you did you
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drive the boat because you're the
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subcommander
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yeah you always can set the levels
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however you like
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yeah that's true fixing host as they say
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any pics and post for all I know you've
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been putting some even putting some word
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filter on me all these years
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alright like that are you put the wall
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pedal on me you could've been fucking
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with me this entire time
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no no I make sure you always sound very
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dignified so you you have a dignified
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performance and then I try to keep your
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I don't cut out the snorts or anything
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cause I think that's part of the show
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you have said you said a mouthful
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mhm keep the snorts snorts snorts are
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part of the show
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that's our motto my curses i do listen
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to the show and so I here when I say
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things wrong
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I here when i accidentally refer to
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Ghostbusters as back to the future and
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then I realize that's on the record
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forever
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yeah yeah if I was worried about the
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permanent record boy I'd have another
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thing that woke me up in the middle of
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the night
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yeah last night I had a dream where I
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was you know I was being chased and
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running chasing dream and I hid inside
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the torpedo tube
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the submarine i was in a summary and I
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ran in and I climbed into the torpedo
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tube to hide and then you can guess what
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happened
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oh now the villain the chaser sealed me
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in the torpedo tube
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oh no you don't like that knows terrible
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huh did you awake with a start
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yes yes I what with the terrible feeling
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that I was trapped in a torpedo tube and
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then unlike you know in most cases in a
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situation like that I roll over and I
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say happy thoughts
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puppy's eyes name but in this case I was
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so intrigued that I rolled over was like
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all right let's play this out
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yeah and and and then the Utopia to was
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flooded which was also awful
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this is a lot of your bad stuff you
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don't like I don't wanna you know
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trigger you but I don't know you don't
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like the idea of being closed in
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somewhere
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no because again on a submarine to begin
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with probably not your best day I
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wouldn't have been a good submariner
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yeah I would not want to be a torpedo
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tube and the only thing that could make
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a small confined Darkspace worse is if
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it'd been flooded with water and I
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ground in it just like drowning in a
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thing I mean no wait a minute I've got a
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thing about drowning in a group torpedo
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tube is that be relatively quick and
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painless you hope you hope it's really
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suffocating think that that then I can I
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going to fear the most
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okay look like a lack of oxygen that's
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right yeah i mean shoot me all day long
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knife me acid hot lava throw me from a
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tall building hit me with a car
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bludgeon me to death all those things
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yeah I'll take in stride with as you say
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dignity
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you sound like you're really prepared
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from but don't suffocate me
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yeah come on
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a little fucking class submarines are an
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interesting thing also because if you
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think about the stuff you're exposed to
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as a kid at least for me I feel like
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submarines maybe like quicksand gorilla
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suits like submarines were thing for a
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while like you even think of how infra
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red october or think about one thing
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only one people even like way before
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that though the submarines that we had
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access to there was always that element
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some element of claustrophobia but it
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was also it was just it was really cool
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and it was until I saw something like
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dust boot will get a real feeling of
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like oh no this year you don't because
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like if you think about the scenes on
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the on the Russian sub I mean is that
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main room is pretty it's pretty roomy I
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mean you can walk around you don't have
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to bend over there's chairs and and it
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seems very accommodating you're talking
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about run for Red October where I say oh
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yeah what you said but I mean hunt for
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red october yeah they've got like a
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dining room table in there nobody even
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like even the like that was a mega sub
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right right but I mean it's it doesn't
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have that sense of like if you ever
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really on a boat
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i mean it's it's such a a model of
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economy is a model of a modern major
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major major economical but pulling every
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single cubic inch has to be utilized
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efficiently all the time and it seems
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like they very much
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err on the side of smaller rather than
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bigger and you're you know always up
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against somebody else there's not lots
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of places where two people can walk by
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each other without having to change
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their their posture and position you
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know I mean I did not know we were going
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to talk about boat design today
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yeah but that's that's a perfect example
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of how this show just goes where the day
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takes us is that right you feel like you
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feel like you never really know what's
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waiting for you here
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what could what could happen I mean I'm
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i am about to i ampregnant with an
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operation petticoat reference how right
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and i'm just sitting here on top of this
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operation petticoat reference so excited
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by it because what was the
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last personal ones last time i got to
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make 11 will the next time be where
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could i ever make an operation petticoat
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reference and have the person i made it
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to bail
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alright is it set them daddy with Jack
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the show was at the movie with Jack
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Lemmon uh you are thinking thinking uh
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no no I'm thinking everything looks so
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you i'm thinking mr. Roberts probably
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one of the worst things i'm doing right
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now is and I can't believe this never
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occurred to me till now is I think in my
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head I can inflate operation petticoat
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with petticoat junction and it didn't
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realize until just now right
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see that is a very common thing that has
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happened to me before also but where
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there's two things there's Petticoat
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Junction the film with Cary Grant
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there's Petticoat Junction the
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television show with jamie lee curtis a
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young Jamie Lee Curtis oh my god I i
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think i think oh my gosh okay
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oh right she thing we know we're full
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points to John that when you had me you
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had me good
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even so where's this whole rat king of
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multiple sisters and like country
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bumpkins that's kind of an ugly
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old-fashioned term pumpkins but like
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wasn't a petticoat junction was more in
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that mold of like roll like the CBS
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rural TV shows right
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oh you're talking about yeah right like
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like Dukes of Hazzard well you know you
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take something like an Andy Griffith
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Show and you've got things like in that
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I think that was the source of the
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spin-off Gomer Pyle USMC right arm and
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you've got things like you got your
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green acres your Beverly Hillbillies you
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get your beverly hillbillies
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I think and then and so all I remember
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about this so first of all remember
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those those shows were on a lot there in
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reruns a lot i remember reading in my
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studies that there is basically
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something happened with at CBS in the
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early seventies they decided to
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basically sweep the decks and say we we
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are losing the urban demo
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something along these lines are you
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think this is the time of like you know
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it's the sixties early seventies let's
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create my stuff happening
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yeah and we have all these shows that
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are completely out of touch with the
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youth the rabbit used culture
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yeah they're corny corny yeah yeah and
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so and that's and so at least in the
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conventional wisdom that the history of
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this is that when CBS launched all those
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the great sitcoms like you know you
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think about that era of all the family
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later the jeffersons what else you got
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in there you got mod of course
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eventually one day at a time but that
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all started with sweeping the decks
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about you and your sweet sweet the shit
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out of my enjoy i enjoyed the rural
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shows when i was a kid
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well the funny thing is you know a lot
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of these shows that they had long run
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five six years I mean and then they were
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in syndication when we were kids as
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we've talked about before
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yeah but uh but where they were
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syndicated what vary by region and
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petticoat junction and green acres
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neither were in a syndication in the
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Seattle area or there's another
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possibility which is that my babysitter
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do not watch that channel babysitter
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controlled the when you're negligent
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babysitter's was the one who controls
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the channel changer control the channel
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changer I never well there wasn't the
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channel changer at the time you have to
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get up and walk all the way across this
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current I'll turn the knob but take the
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kids to but kids were not allowed to
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touch the TV and the babysitter so there
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should be another small consolations
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right well she ran a tight ship right i
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mean she but she was funny as the TV was
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all the way on the far side of the
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living room and it was just a regular
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style American style TV at the time
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which was about the size of what like a
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box of wine right it's not supportable
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know it was a bit of it wasn't a console
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didn't have a record player and also but
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it was a what would you what size would
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be it's like it's like when you order
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toilet paper from amazon.com
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what there were three channels in PBS ok
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operation petticoat a sauna TV show to
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what the TV show is the one with jamie
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made much earlier like the film is from
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you were making a funny on the fact that
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they were family now and then Jamie Lee
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Curtis was cast like such as Lieutenant
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yeah yeah and so operation petticoat
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television show ya was like done as a
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kind of farce like Gilligan's Island
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who is I mean the whole idea of these
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a pink submarine
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being painted the submarine pink because
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pink in the process there and anna and i
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process was it was like a primer right
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painting in its battleship gray
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nia or i don't remember but anyway so it
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full of nurses yeah so in that sense it
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it was it was right up there with
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Charlie's Angels
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yeah in terms of like it nothing ever
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happened that you never really got to me
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it was television but you get your your
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nurses kept him
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13 i still wouldn't have been allowed on
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a submarine
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yeah and feature john astin and also jim
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Varney the guy from you know the earnest
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Ernest you mean like Ernest goes to
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watch goes to camp and stuff like that
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yeah Jim Barton it i didn't know he had
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a he had a career but outside of Being
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Earnest anything about John asked don't
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change the subject here but the other
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times you know a success breeds success
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do a very similar show so I mean it's
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people have CBS some people have
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walgreens it's also interesting like it
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regionally i think most stations that
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are buying reruns to fill the afternoon
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are not going to buy i'm guessing i'm
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you're either a monster's family or you
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were an Addams Family family and I
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had monsters same-same absolutely same
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program who knows you who knows who can
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go back in time now and say what our
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lives would have been like if we've been
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watching The Addams Family instead of
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the monsters I don't want to think about
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moments together like magnets
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know foundational yeah and the addams
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family as there's a lot of subtlety
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going on there
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you know they're very different
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different shows yeah gomez is like he's
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always smirking right yeah
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Herman's not smirking so what he could
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get his family came first I'm not gonna
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look it up
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I'm gonna stop staring because i was
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based on like those like New Yorker
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cartoons right yeah it's got em and
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families got a lot of class the monsters
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its plan to the back of the room but I
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can't take it away i would like to point
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out John Astin's photo on wikipedia is
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taken from Petticoat Junction no kidding
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yeah so it's not even now it's not like
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oh it's not like a small moment in his
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life huh
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but I mean you would think he was Gomez
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you would think he would be that would
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be the picture that they would be you
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that we would know about but no it's
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like yeah maybe you can understand who
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decides what picture to use it is always
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here's a question to you yeah have you
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looked at your Wikipedia page lately
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no do you know how it gets made
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not really i was sort of greenacres i do
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not have no interesting greenacres i
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don't i have never have not looked at my
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Wikipedia page in a long time and still
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other day that it's out there
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yeah that it exists out there and that
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it's probably either wrong or poor it's
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in it's probably either i think it
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probably is impoverished you know what I
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wikipedia page about me was written by a
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fan and it was in the early days of
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wikipedia where people could just coming
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that there was a time where where you
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it's a very popular top god I don't know
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fuck all about this i don't know what
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get the sense there's a lot more
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don't get as much like weird abuse and
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stuff but you know if it's a topic that
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a lot of people care about and that
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a lot of expertise in mr. fantastic
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wikipedia pages out there it's all yeah
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you know and there but the thing is I
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adopted topics and sort of watch for
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changes and things
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yes IC IC right i think when i first was
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introduced to the concept of editing
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wikipedia page for the Starcaster
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fenders famously ill-advised competitor
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which I owned a copy
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wow the Starcaster how you've seen me
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play my starcaster must look it up
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starcaster very unusual guitar i was
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working i was part me i was working at
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Emerald City guitars in seattle accept
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it a little bit of the funky angle of
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the fender like give me like a little
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was strangely and like a Stratocaster
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yeah but three is a 335 so i was working
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had within the year purchased a 1968
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telecaster with a factory Bigsby tremolo
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guitar that I had owned ever since my
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original 1968 eat es-335 was stolen out
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of my own living room while i was
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sleeping man that happened a long time
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before but so this was a fancy guitar
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was very fancy but whenever I would play
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shows with it i like to play with my
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guitar kind of loud sounds the fashion
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at the time and this telecaster was very
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journal telecasters were were like all
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had had a Telecaster and I think one of
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the perform
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up and then we'll get the distinctive 20
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sound it's that distinctive 20 sound or
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are we playing with jingle bells don't
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know at least answer there no I think
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it's just breaks
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o people break a lot around here oh oh
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right right breaks I thought you were
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talking about like drum brakes was like
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that was a cool drum brake right and and
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so people did all kinds of things like
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they invented humbuckers that would fit
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inside the single space of a telecaster
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pick up people would take their
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telecaster pickups out and dip them in
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wax I'm really didn't see more I feel
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like I remember seymour duncan is being
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a big deal because they had was the
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quarter pounder but they cannot put some
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pickup that where you could put enough
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was just seymour duncan but you could if
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you with the right amount of routing
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routing what you call it you know router
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making at all where you could get a
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humbucker a double pick up into the
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space of a single coil area right but it
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was tapped it was stacked it was on top
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of each other rather than side-by-side
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yeah and right and then of course there
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was the mother bucker which was a hammer
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invention which was three
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it was three pick three single-coil
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pickups together the motherfuckers that
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in gillette blade situation you get
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benefit from having those extras
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I well you know people aren't aren't
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still using them so i think it was just
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a thing that looked pretty hot i
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remember seeing it in a hammer guitar
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and thinking that looks pretty hot but
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for some reason to pick up version of
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rick nielsen having five neck guitar and
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Rick Nielson also famously played Hamer
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sledgehammers I bet he had one nice pull
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but uh but so now nobody plays that loud
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you can play the guitar you want i think
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but then every time I stepped on my
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distortion box this thing would just
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start squealing like what
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hey and it's been especially if you're
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on the detail pick up yeah and I at that
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point in time never used anything but
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the bridge pickup because i didn't
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understand what the neck pickup did I
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never touched the controls of a guitar
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or of the amp i just turned everything
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up all the way and then the only way I
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had really of expressing myself as an
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instrumentalist was stepping on the
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distortion pedal because i had no had no
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feel of any kind I couldn't you know I
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couldn't do anything with the guitar
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except the most brute like bet behavior
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yeah just like blank and this guitar was
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too crazy was like a scimitars it was
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beautiful
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I'm working I'm working at the guitar
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store one day and a guy comes in this
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used to happen all the time in the
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guitar store somebody a man woman comes
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in with a guitar case and you can see
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the case through the glass door when
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they're still on the sidewalk and you're
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like oh here comes a live one
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mhm because you see the case you know it
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is something and then you look at the
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person and you know that person does not
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belong with that guitar kings and so you
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adopt that cool kind of guide the guitar
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shopping you lean your elbow on the
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counter and you're like hey welcome to
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emerald city guitars how are you make
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them in all hey I found this guitar my
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grandfather's bed season for you know or
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my son went off to Vietnam and never
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came back and we have this guitar ever
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since or any kind of story like that
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you're like let's take a look at what
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kind of like a is this worth anything
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that yeah right i don't know what to do
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with that are bringing it down to the
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good i saw your ad in the penny nickel
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all right come on in and you know and
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you see the case and then you get that
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smell there's a certain smell that those
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old guitars had that if you're not into
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the smell of like it's sort of a little
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bit more bolly a little bit like sitting
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in the closet for all these years those
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cases were made out of tweed we flip it
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open and then inside is this guitar and
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sometimes it can be you know every once
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in awhile it is
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like a 54 stratocaster or a 57 les paul
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custom at which point everybody gasps
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and then the owner of the store like
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magically appears and gently puts his
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hand on everyone to him even if there
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are four of us working in the store he
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somehow manages to gently put his hand
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on all four of us and just push us away
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just like the monopoly man it is he's
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not just you know it's a risk guitar
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sources just like rock-and-roll dad you
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know he's got a shark tooth necklace or
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what everybody's like everybody go
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you know like I got this time the lean
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time to clean a minute we all step back
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and he's like hi thanks for coming in
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and then it's sort of like progresses
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into a different it takes a different
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form but a lot of times it will be the
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the guitar case would open and it would
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be a very interesting and cool guitar
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but not necessarily one that would bring
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the owner Jay down from his tower you
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know something like a mosrite or a oral
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later you know later fender I mean
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nowadays all that stuff is is is
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unobtainium right but but then it was
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like oh yeah guitar you know that's a I
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mean I bought that 68 Telecaster twelve
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hundred dollars and it seems like whoa
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1,200 bucks what kind of house are you
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spending twelve hundred dollars on
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guitar right you know you know you get
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perfectly good guitar for six hundred
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dollars and and people who are listening
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this program who are not in the guitar
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trades or even who are won't realize
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that well the people that are will
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realize but those guitars don't exist
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like that anymore nobody comes into a
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guitar store with a with something under
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their arm like that because the first
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thing everybody does google it and now
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he sure they're stupid 1999 fender
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squier is were heard of seventeen
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hundred dollars
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and so but at the time there was no
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resource like that was just like oh no
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it from this thing go boom and so one
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day a guy comes in the open this guitar
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case and it's this fender starcaster
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which none of us at the store had ever
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heard of obviously Jay had but the rest
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of us like younger guys never seen this
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thing before
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what the hell is it and a it was this
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ill-fated guitar fender tried to do this
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thing it was the nineteen seventies not
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the not the top era for fender or for
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anybody in America we couldn't make cars
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or guitar string the 72 started making
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them in 76 and they were done by 79
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right well i mean i'm sure there was a
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light ale but the 76 to 80 20 * casters
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that's what it says they only made him
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for three years
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pretty pretty sure i'll say this its I
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mean like obviously for guitar person
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you know this but it's not the way you
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would like eyeball a strat this is not
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like a classic right no yeah it was and
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this was I think still at a time when
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Fender guitars of that era were derided
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ok so until until very recently like a
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77 stratocaster would spit on the floor
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maybe like clip 277 stratocaster that we
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call them record them call them what
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were they for bolt necks there was there
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was there was some menus now the three
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well I forget it's been so long since i
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didn't since i did any kind of work like
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this but it was it was widely understood
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that those guitars were not very good
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now 77 stratocaster is worth a ton of
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money not no one even remembers a time
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when those were considered garbage
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because they're 40 years old and then
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and they're not making they're not
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making any more new 40 year old guitars
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right right there the end of their
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precious and when you could no longer
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afford to 65 stratocaster and you could
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only afford a 72 stratocaster and then
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pretty soon he couldn't afford those so
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you so 79 stratocaster and now you know
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why I doubt you can afford that but this
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was from that era so a lot of people in
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the guitar shop
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we're like how what a strange curiosity
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it's kind of like a fender coronado to
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which is to say a guitar that I don't
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really care about and everybody's always
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walked away and and I'm left there with
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this thing like my god I'm so attracted
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to it and my the one that came into the
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store that day was root beer brown which
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again most people were most people in
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the guitar trades were like yeah not
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interested in a rootbeer colored guitar
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either especially not this like thing
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this thing this ugly thing that looks
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like i'm just looking like just just
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based on sort of aesthetics you're not
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sure like who's this for
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I mean Brants to be kind of a like a
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chet atkins kind of guitar like like if
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you're you know a successful local
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country musician you might want this but
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then it's got humbuckers right right
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yeah and it's but it's like who would
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this before in 1976 I mean you're gonna
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get a less fall if you can probably
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right well who-who fender imagined it
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was for was in the in the mid-seventies
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you got all these chick Korea's out
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ok you got all these trainee Lopez's the
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you later later period training Lopez's
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you've got everybody's trying to do all
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these Jerry guard to see is everybody's
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trying to do something new with the
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guitar and there's a lot of jazz
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happening a lot of jazz guitar going on
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everybody's jazzy
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and they're jazzing it up and the 335i
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mean that's it that's a pretty valid
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question what is a 335 for it's the
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classic busy Tommy king
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yeah the blues brews but that doesn't
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like that's a bonafide classic that
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right oh yeah i mean a 59 335 is worth
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the in the multiple good costume or just
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what a gorgeous guitar beautiful thing
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so but fender never had one like that
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they tried to do this coronado thing
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back in the sixties notice not eat our
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John no no it's terrible and the
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Coronado's were made out of fiber port I
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mean they're not they were never
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intended them to be good but like Gibson
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always had a always cornered the market
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on the f whole semi hollow body detox
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Gibson just cornered the market vendor
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never even tried but then in the
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seventies they were like hey man they're
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like a bad
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what if we did but if we did a
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hollow-body guitar and somebody at a
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inventor was like that's great idea you
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know because by then the company's been
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sold and Leo fender was living in a
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living in a in a Ford f-150 and so they
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did and they made it only for a couple
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years nobody bought it because as you
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say who wants it
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it did all the other thing that it had
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was a master volume knob on the guitar
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so you could set your different volumes
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have faster that it's got a fist the
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seventies guitar magazine hanging in my
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bathroom for the Starcaster and I'm I'm
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sorely tempted to jump up and go get it
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because it does have an alligator the
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the add you know there's there's no
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some copywriting that's very much of the
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right there still oh yeah okay here's
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what it says this is this one guitar was
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brand new Fender ushers in a new age in
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sound pure sound with minimum feedback
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more sound with a solid wood center
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block from maximum sustained two
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humbucking pickups now this is a thing
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that that's not really that that big of
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a selling point right by this point in
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time if you want if you're buying a
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guitar you know that it's gonna have to
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i'm backing pickups generally now that's
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not necessarily true offender but here
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crews from metallic to mellow and
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anywhere in between
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drive hard or lay back at the touch of a
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finger tip and now we're going to move
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on to the five knobs which is the real
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innovation no guitar ever had five mob
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Merlin nobody ever thought you could
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probably even out of this knob no no who
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would have no idea roger McGuinn would
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dream of assets knob who dared who you
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know but that's right
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who dares wins am i right who who's then
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they were like what we put a gift Bob
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but dual controls it says dual controls
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I have no idea what that I don't know
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what dual means in that context i'm
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guessing that means you can have this
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picked up with that pickup
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yeah right okay that's right that's what
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it means dual controls 5 stars2 steer by
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to individual pick up tone controls
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program like every guitar and thinks
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that click to and then to individual
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pick up volume controls / and like every
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window neck included that in print and
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then the last one and matt and this is
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so to individual pick up I'm controls
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period and then the next sentence begins
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with a capital and and master volume
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control and that's the thing that that's
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the thing that they were going to try
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and use as the big selling point for
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that I love that five stars to steer by
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every time I go to the bathroom
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look at that and I say five stars to
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steer by mmm that feels like that feels
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like that should be somebody's motto you
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can find so much more stuff with five
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stars and four stars five stars five
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stars to steer by one thing is at the
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time I don't think I don't think five
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star rating even existed all I see are
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seeing stars i get em you know because
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because it a five-star general is only
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that only happens in war time rather
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than absolutely yay for wartime general
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yeah that's right a wartime concealer
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Tom Higgins not a wartime general you
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don't there's no five-star general right
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now because there's no general of the
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there's no general of the armies which
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is like big guys the five stars that's
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what you get you get a MacArthur you get
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a patent you get out of 5 stars on that
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was never for all right if I call
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multiplicity get five stars
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no I don't think so for didn't I don't
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think you got but no I think it was
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eisenhower and and macarthur mhm
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I mean you know every once awhile they
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keep 12 a car because he was you know
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he'd been around a long time but I think
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I think Washington also get doesn't
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Washington get like some kind of the
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secret bonus star about George
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Washington yeah i think back then every
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time they give you a new rank they just
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gave you like a bag of gold all that you
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come from your sleeve
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I feel like I read which I think we
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talked about this one so I feel like he
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was posthumously given something along
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the lines of no matter how many stars
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anybody ever gets Washington always has
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one more
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how interesting because he's the OG I
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thought you were going to say it was
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like the posthumous the weather Mormons
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baptize their ancestors ok could be
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could be similar
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yeah you know that you know that you
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know that that is a that's kind of a a
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one of the one of the deals
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yes the yeah you know we talked about
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know it's it's it's it's fascinating so
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they got 5 stars2 22 guide by the and i
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found is very seventies looking and it
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has the guitar turning into an alligator
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oh you you were referring to one that
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you were even then looking at the
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hard-charging sharp to starcaster first
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heard emerging from the spectral depths
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of creation in 1976 starcaster have been
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is the great grey-green greasy limpopo
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what whatever that is and what Leslie
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climbs the charts its attack is
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heightened by a unique semi hollow body
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and job-hopping vocal range which is
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which makes it a prize trophy among and
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a musicologist uh-huh and musicologist
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did you know that john astin is
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currently teaching acting at johns
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hopkins university on asking is alive
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he's not only a lot but currently
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teaching acting that's fantastic
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yeah he's trying to reestablish the the
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acting school at Johns Hopkins good for
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johns hopkins you know now is thought of
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primarily as science school but but as a
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long and storied history in the arts so
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Jay was that his name he comes down from
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his tower oj anyway came down and I was
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like I love this guitar I want this
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guitar and he said oh I don't know ma'am
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that's pretty cool guitar because Jay
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was a wheeler-dealer he always wheelie
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wheeler-dealer and even those of us the
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work for him because he was only
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planning business that's telling you
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yeah exactly yeah yeah it's just like if
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you work at the car lot
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it's not like you get the honda civic
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for free you gotta turn and start
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negotiating with the with the salesman
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double up so James like I don't know i
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don't mean it's pretty nice guitar and I
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was like wow I mean it's root beer brown
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and no one has one and it's ridiculous
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looking and he was like yeah i know but
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like I could probably get eighteen
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hundred dollars for that he would have
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said that that would have been
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outrageous amount of money but I said
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what if I trade you that telecaster for
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it and he I think recognize that that
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was a good deal and he said sold as you
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can so move a telecaster oh yeah and
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that telecaster now 68 Telecaster with
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the the factory Bigsby that's worth a
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ton of money a lot more than the
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Starcaster probably anyway I played for
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a long time the Starcaster it was like
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one of my that was one of my signature
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guitars and then Chris wala of death cab
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for cutie liked it so much that his
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bandmates bought him one as a present
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since he was playing his but a lot more
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prominently that I was and then at a
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certain moment there
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wikipedia arrived upon the scene and
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everybody was on there be no filling out
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people's wikipedia pages and you know
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mine was had all this baloney on it like
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grew up in the you know he used to live
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at 1,800 stanford in a land Anchorage
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Alaska I was like what is that doing
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there but it was written by a fan you
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know and and I didn't understand how
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things work but then i went to the
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Starcaster page one day because i wanted
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to know about star casters as much as I
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could find and down at the bottom of the
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page it said prominent starcaster users
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and I was like prominent starcaster
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users who are these people and it was it
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was Chris wala and then some
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oh and jonny greenwood Chris wall and
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Johnny Green will hit starcaster and
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then like a couple of other guys and I
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said you know i'm i'm a prominent
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starcaster usually there aren't that
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many of us
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sure and so I had just had just gotten I
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just dropped the concept that you could
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change a Wikipedia page
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and so I satin figured it out and pushed
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on the Edit thing and went down and got
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figured out the HTML the XHTML Yeah
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right right and and ipad my name
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no kidding right there big biggest day
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prominent starcaster user and then I
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went back two days later it was gone
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yeah I was like fuck I'm prominence
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doncaster user yeah like I got a record
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I you know my current record is number
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four on the cmj huh
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but if i put it back put my name back
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there and get the warning that week
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later it was gone and I was like you
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alright I surrender I don't know who's
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making these decisions
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somebody's like why and I assumed it was
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one of two things either they were like
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who made that it oh the guy and right
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even if it's true even if even if Dwight
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David Eisenhower goes on and says I was
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general of the army
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they're going to say you can edit your
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own Wikipedia page sorry right right or
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it was somebody that was like who's this
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guy and then they went and looked at my
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Wikipedia page where somebody was
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talking about you know that i played
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wiffle ball in in elementary school and
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they were like this guy's just he's just
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some wiffle ball guy he's not a
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prominent starcaster user I don't know
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what this is a long time ago but but
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that ended that was the beginning and
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have I told you about this no I haven't
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answers for things and I don't know that
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no I have no idea how Korra ended up in
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my life right one day I got an email
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huh that suggested that i was a
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long-standing member and it said hey
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here's some core articles that might
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interest you and it was all about tanks
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wow like the history of Tanks a tank
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battles tank warfare people asking
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questions like what would happen if I
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pitted against like 40 Sherman tanks who
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would win like always kind of questions
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that you only get on Quora and I was
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like why am I getting this email but I
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this is there a chance that you had
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signed up and forgot about it
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no because I wouldn't have it wouldn't
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have signed up for thing that had that
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said like what are your what are your
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major interests and offered me 80
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options and I and all i clicked was
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tanks like that's not a thing even if I
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was still drinking
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that's not a thing I would
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signing me up on a mailing list where
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I'm getting weird junk mail all the time
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telling her like yeah like subscribed
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somebody subscribe me to like tank
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drivers digest or something
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yeah but whether where I was coming in
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the real mail but it was in my email I
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form that had all of my interests and I
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lips pursed like this with the web or
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should I want to know about everything
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yeah it never changed how long i just
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saw how long ago was this
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forty marine recon operatives all had
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who would win and it was just like wow I
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yeah out if this is coming in my email
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inbox like i'm not i'm not going to stop
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it I'm who am I to stand with work
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history and yell stop but it was too
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gettin somethin right to tickle your
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interest bone but but but one of the
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started getting emails from Cora on any
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topic would i have had pretty much the
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same reaction like huh that's
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interesting i'm getting all these weird
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emails now from Cora about
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farming um but it's really interesting
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a very specific thing every time you get
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one of these emails are going to be like
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answers to 10 questions and and you can
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get in and get out like it's just me but
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it's like you know if you think about
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reading where there's a certain set of
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interest the delt they'll find the
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meaning and what it is but tank seems
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pretty on the nose
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well but not necessarily right like I
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don't know if you don't know if you
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listen to the the food safety podcast
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of questions about food safety i had the
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same experience right when you did that
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podcast and you get on there and you're
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like no wait a minute let's get this how
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many aspects of my life the food safety
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you know what actually I do have
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questions like tell me the deal with
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ground beef know what is the deal with
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ground beef how much ecoli is actually
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meant well apparently according to
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you gotta be careful because you can get
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coming in general they they ended up
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much how much risk you're willing to
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take and your brain a little bit but it
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that you know sous-vide cooking for one
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thing like we're cooking a water bath
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where there's this whole different model
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i eat in the bath all the time you're
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saying you cooking number
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different thing but there's no idea of
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where they called kinetics the way the
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kinetics work which I don't really
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understand but like by the time we were
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like half an hour into that show my mind
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actually understood about this and here
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we are two people who actually did
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understand it and right in there they're
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very articulate about entertaining and
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the depth that big
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like you had a profile up on corner and
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there's no profile of me in existence
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that ever mentions a tank because even
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if I even as a military history buff
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even as a super military hardware nerd
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tanks are absolutely at the bottom of
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what I'm interested in
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interested in boats i'm interested in
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strategy i'm interested in i'm
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interested in guns i'm interested in
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uniforms before I am interested in tanks
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ok and they and all that stuff is way
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way below my interest in like I mean I'm
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more interested in bows and arrows five
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there it was and I was getting into it
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signed up for a UH an email from a guy
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in England called worldwide words
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oh yeah already talked about this and
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it's just one of those etymology
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podcasts where you're like this is
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doorways into the internet like Laura
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it's different than five or ten years
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ago where there's like it seems like
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there's an increasingly smaller number
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of apertures to get you into something
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yeah yeah well I mean I sit and look at
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my phone all day but when you really
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look at what I'm doing I'm only looking
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at five places on the internet i'm
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looking at i'm looking at Twitter i'm
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looking at my email i'm looking at a
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couple of games i play regularly i
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occasionally and begrudgingly go to
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facebook i go to instagram i do a little
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snap chatting right but all of that is a
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what my friends are doing but I'm not
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like it like there was a time when I
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tell you like what the mean deviation of
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the number of bugs in your food is what
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site did but but I was always looking
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like when I would go to medium it just
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seemed like oh here's a bunch of blogs i
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have a way to really like suck the
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would get me going and I'd say well now
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wikipedia things a wikipedia is the
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time and lately I've been buying a lot
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of filson jackets on ebay but let's
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leave that aside because that's
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embarrassing that counts that's an
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aperture I don't like it though I don't
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like it I don't want to be on ebay I'm
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embarrassed to be there
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goes on ebay and and is the first bid on
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like 90 things a bit like 20 bucks
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the idea is to be the last one right
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yeah I go on in like twenty bucks and
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then and and I think it's just because
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ebay telling me I've been outbid
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yeah so I'm going to box 20 bucks for
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everything and I guess I'm hoping that
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one of these things will be like people
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won't go on ebay that day or something
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and no one will see it and I'll get it
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for twenty dollars that never happens
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do you like that you like that part of
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ebay do you like the the bidding part of
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it is that so exciting to you
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you mean like leasing someone two-bit no
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I don't like it at all because they're
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just want you want the thing you're not
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there for that game
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fifty dollars on something and then the
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person wins it
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451 dollars it makes me mad because
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hundred fifty dollars and a hundred $51
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is not that different but I wasn't
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prepared to bit
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280 and I'm not prepared to download one
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of those like last-minute building
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programs
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everyone's always something really
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matters to me i will remember when the
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thing ends and I will I will go to my
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computer at that moment and I'll sit on
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my little tuffet and i'll wait until the
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last seconds and then all right get into
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this combat with what I imagine is
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someone else but it's probably just
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bought yeah and and I i almost always
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lose and then I'm mad i stomp around i
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lost a thing of the day they're not
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stopping around for a long time blame
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you but and that also is an aperture
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into the internet because I'll see
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things that I don't recognize and i will
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say oh that's cool and then I'll google
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what they are and then I'm going on then
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I go down that rabbit hole but but the
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that the tank thing has been a it's been
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very interesting because it's like I it
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brings me in to the web and news does
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not I am NOT interested in news because
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for a long long time I felt like news is
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garbage and now especially news is
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garbage there i like to go to feature
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articles i like a feature article but i
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do not want to know I do not want news
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aggregated for me I don't like it it's
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not it's not good for the soul but i
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don't have an aggregator that that that
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especially works for me i haven't
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programmed something because how can you
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how can you go on and say like I want to
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read the most fascinating articles about
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everything
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yeah it's difficult to automate
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serendipity yeah yeah yeah yeah how do
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you how do you get how do you find a way
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I thought about this a fair amount and I
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mean I think about in the meeting at the
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very beginning of when I was on the
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internet but like when things were
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getting really interesting by jose 96 97
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and yahoo was where you would go to find
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stuff talk to accuse about this about
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how back then you know you did not have
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even if you want to something like all
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TV star like a good search engine it was
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still not as reliable as going somewhere
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curated like yahoo because unlike a
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search engine and people call Yahoo
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search engine it had search
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functionality but yeah I was
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the directory and was kind of for a long
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time it was the internet for us
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consumers it was the you know canonical
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directory of stuff and it was curated
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and so what what what what i would do
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that this is a an interesting skill that
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kind of still sticks with me to this day
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whether this
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whether this
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categories on wikipedia or whatever it's
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not going to find something simple like
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I'll go and find it i want to find
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something in general and so i'll go to
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an area i'll find something that's
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similar to what i think i might want to
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know about and now look at stuff kind of
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around that time getting given category
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this is why wikipedia categories are one
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of my favorite things whether I don't
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know what those are well it's difficult
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on your phone because you won't see this
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in the mobile view unless you turn off
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mobile view but the bottom of the page
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you'll see categories and you'll see
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so you'll either see things like the
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look if there's a portal for this thing
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like if you're going in and you're
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reading about a duration of the
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Eucharist or whatever you'll see that's
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part of this giant collection called
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Catholicism and that might i'm not this
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is in front of me right now but you
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might see only his other kinds of things
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that are you know sacred or sacraments
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or whatever but it's a great way to like
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not just I'm not sure exactly how to put
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this instead of searching horizontally
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your sort of searching vertically so you
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can go and see like prominence
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starcaster users not as a section of
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pros but as like a programmatic like
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when you click here you will get to a
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page with all of these things and they
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might even like I say there might even
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be like a portal about it it's all about
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this particular topic so that it uses so
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that
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like as a survival tactic to find stuff
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on the internet or locate what you
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thought you wanted on the internet at
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first you have to be a little bit of a
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detective where you had to go in and
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evaluate what your options were and then
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find things that were around it and now
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today if you know exactly what you want
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that's not difficult to find exactly
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what you want but it's more like you
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know tell me the things I don't know and
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also where'd you find those discovery
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mechanism time you learn about the
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apertures that you never would have
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known about Roland someone knocking on
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my door which never happened
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no dear and so let's go over and find
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out what's going on all right
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John's gonna go over and down it's a
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little bit mr. Rogers here constant
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addresses visitor
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hello oh hi
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it's sort of the phone
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yeah it's a form of phone it's okay go
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yeah there has been none but if I do I
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will let you know I do have your number
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mm-hmm that's not the point
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the plot thickens so the other day I
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need to cut that out
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no no not at all ok the other the other
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day I'm sitting here in my house
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yeah and oh yeah your home right now i'm
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at my house okay
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the and also a two things to technology
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related things today I'm going after
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this podcast to my office to get the
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internet restored their fine good
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also i'm thinking about leaving AT&T but
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we can talk about that separately does
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that it does that interest you at all i
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was getting a seltzer
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yes and in fact haha I'm glad to see
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that we have now we've just abandon all
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pretense that we're not just going to
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the refrigerator during the show
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well someone's got to get my bucket you
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know there's all kinds of things I gotta
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do okay so hang on a minute let me let
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me let me a traceback yourself so is
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somebody who has a question about phone
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and activity you're thinking about
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leaving AT&T and second that's third and
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then second and you're going to get your
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internet fixed at the office right so
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I'm going to go back to the office i'm
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not going to be here with the dishwasher
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running behind me while I'm podcasting
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ok cool but anyway so she's like all of
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us might might potentially get a lot
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more useful if you got the internet
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exactamundo my friend and the problem
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with getting the internet restored there
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was that the internet people were like
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well great well we'll come you know week
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from next wednesday anytime between 9am
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and 7pm sound like cereal go sit in this
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room with no internet for a while
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yeah go sit in your office with no
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internet and make you know do some make
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work all day while we decide when to
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come and I was like it doesn't work that
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I want the internet was down there we
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can't do it without you there and I'm
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like yes you can you put it in when I
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wasn't there anyway I finally thought
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I'm going down there that you can use
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logic on those people
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I'm going down there right after i get
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off the phone with you and I'm gonna sit
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there all day in my office waiting for
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them and then i'm going to get the
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internet and lot of my problems will be
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solved from then on
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also i'm thinking about leaving 18
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people will get back to that there's a
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knock on my door about a week ago which
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never happens
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I don't like it when it happens what are
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you doing here how did you get inside my
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gate my fence is falling down by the way
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that's number four
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so I open the door and there are two
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people standing on a man and woman
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standing on the porch and they have a
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very distinctive look with distinctive
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to me which is that look of women are
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these people my age are they older or
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younger than me i can't tell because
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they're from a different culture they
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are white people but she is wearing a
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washington state cougars sweatshirt and
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as you know i went to the university of
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washington i'm a husky okay and they're
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Cougars there from the Agricultural
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College from across the state and right
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away they just they seem like they're
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sort of suburban people there Suburbans
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and it's like are we the same age I
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cannot tell because you seem older than
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me because you are like a married couple
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who are living a life you're living a
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college sweatshirt that's that's going
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to tell exactly right you're wearing a
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college pitcher but you are clearly
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living a life of adulthood where you
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became adults earlier than I did
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sure like I became an adult somewhere
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around the 41 42 ok
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arguably they became adults you can just
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see it on and they became adults when
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they were 21
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yeah and so they're standing on my porch
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and I'm like Hello
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normally when there's a knock on the
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door at my house first of all it's not
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white people and so just the fact that
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they're white people is a unusual second
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cougar sweatshirt which is very it's
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just jen
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really just sort of unusual and they
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look like adults and I'm like hello how
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may I help you how many serve you today
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and she leans in conspiratorial II and
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she says the house across the street by
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which she means the house where Gary
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lives in the house where Skeeter used to
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live before he died of cirrhosis right
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she said we just bought that house
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that's auction
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well and I was like what and she said
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yeah it was foreclosed two foreclosed
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upon two years ago and they've been
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living there ever since and we just
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bought a like a police auction basically
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Wow and I said who the how and she was
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like so like what's the deal with the
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house across the street huh
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okay and I looked across the street and
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I've told you I think that they can
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within the last year built a fence which
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they forgot to put a gate him right they
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built a fence because they were worried
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neighborhood kids were breaking into
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their house and stealing stuff when in
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fact the neighborhood kids were not they
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were either pawning that stuff and
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forgetting they were bonding it or their
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friends were stealing it
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you know there's no way you had concerns
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for a long time about the the foot
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traffic in and out of the house while
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that lady was maybe a deckhand a bedroom
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sketch Rama but instead of instead of
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starting the bleeding in terms of like
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don't let these people come by they
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built a huge huge fence across the
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entire front of their house and they
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forgot to put a gate in it
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I mean they put it like a big gate for
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the car that immediately sag to the
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point that it couldn't be opened but
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they didn't put a human gait and so no
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one could get in or out
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they didn't realize this until the day
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that the fence was finished and then it
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was like it was like wait a minute we
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can't get in around so they so they had
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someone come and then put a gate isn't a
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pretty significant design flaw that a
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fence person would be thinking about
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well the person that built the fence
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I happen to know was not a fence person
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he was a guy who came by one day in a
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truck that said
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we'll haul junk okay and he was there to
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haul some junk out of her place and
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while he was there they got into a
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conversation she was like I need offense
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and he said I'll build your friend mr.
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chain-link fence
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no it's a fence made out of boards it's
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a cedar fence
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Wow but not inexpensively done one you
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know one where guy who hauls Trump was
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target i can get all those parts define
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make a pretty good deal for you made a
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good deal and then once he was there and
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then I you know I would come by and
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saying you're making good progress on
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the fence and then he would turn his
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attention to my house and say you know I
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could I could build your windmill and I
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said you know not i'm not not interested
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in having windmill on my property but I
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don't think you're the guy if I'm gonna
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build a windmill it's going to be up
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it's going to be a licensed and bonded
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windmill builder but let's leave that
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aside so after they put up the fence and
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after a jury-rigged a gate into it then
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all of a sudden much signs showed up on
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the fence that said security cameras in
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beware of dog like you know that don't
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don't be don't be aware of dog beware of
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owner don't beware of owner beware of
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chemtrails like signs saber-rattling
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do not do not enter no trespassing on
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private property no parking like a lot
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of signs they just went to the store and
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they got every sign that said no on him
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and they stapled them up all over this
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fence and let me tell you it really
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raises the the whole look and feel of
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the neighborhood I'm like just shy of
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like a radiation simple right
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yeah they didn't go that far they didn't
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say you know there's there's nothing in
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a foreign language there's nothing has
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octomom on it but you know like it's
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only because they didn't have those
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signs at the at the loews so the woman
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in this in the Cougar sweatshirt is
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standing on my porch and she's gesturing
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over should you know gesturing with a
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thumb over her shoulder like what the
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hey we just bought this house
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what can you tell me about it
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and I said well let's just say that the
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signs are more suggestive of like a
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general on the other side of the fence
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there's a general mood and the signs are
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more suggestive of the mood than they
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are of any actual surveillance dogs guns
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or anything else Gary is very
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unpredictable but also also very
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predictable in that you can predict that
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every night at one o'clock in the
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morning you'll be standing in the middle
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of the street yelling at the moon and
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he's mad at the moon because the moon
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took his kids but otherwise I mean I
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don't know what to tell you
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so that was big news because I've gone
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on the internet this is another portal
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to the Internet
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I've got on the internet and I've done a
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property record search and I knew that
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the house was in foreclosure but it had
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been in foreclosure a long time and in
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washington state at least your house can
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be foreclosed upon and you can continue
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to live there for a long time and
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surprised on and so I was like well you
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know it's just
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times are changing over there I don't
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want I don't want her to lose the house
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but I also don't want Gary living in the
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front yard and his fan anymore
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yeah nothing against Kerry I just don't
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you know if somebody in this
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neighborhood is going to yell at the
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mood about how it took his kids I wanted
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to be me
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yeah yeah anyway so now the home is
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owned but can I mean you know it's a
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long time to kind of have to put up with
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yeah and I mean once I became once i
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became good pals with Gary and
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understood his travails my sympathy for
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him kept me from a calling the police
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it kept me from threatening to call the
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police because I I'm not a person that
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wants to threaten to call the police
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yeah because it's not something that you
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need to threaten if you're all the way
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to the point of calling the police then
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column you and I've been around
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block on this police thing oh yeah i
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think it's it seems like there's am at
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least if you're kind of raised in the
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suburbs impulse of treating the police
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sort of like your dad you know it might
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don't call the police on let's well that
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there's this sense of like well yeah but
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like there's something suspicious here
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or something i'm not comfortable with
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and I need them to go like check it out
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for me yeah right order and even my like
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it's something suspicious and I'm not
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comfortable with it all go check it out
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you might know something where it's like
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these people need to be arrested or
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somebody looked clear and present danger
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right then you call the police and you
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say without you know in no uncertain
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terms police
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here's the problem right get my and you
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know when my next door neighbor was out
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in the street firing his pistol in the
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air i didn't call the police because I
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find him to be a reasonable man
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accepting his daughter had snuck out
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alright yeah some guy it snuck into his
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daughter's room that is ok jumped out
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the window and onto the roof and down
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into the street and that seem reasonable
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to me of course your fire pistol and his
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reasons he had his reasons and I trust
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generally I don't trust Gary but after i
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realized Gary was you know was
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predictable in his in his moods then I
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was like at you know I have more
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problems with the rooster then I do with
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Gary because Gary's yelling things at
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one thirty in the morning which is kind
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of the middle of my day whereas the
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route starts at dawn
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yeah she's but now I'm concerned I'm
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concerned that she's losing her house I
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think she has family upstate we don't
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say upstate here but that's that's the
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the best definition of it
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write-ups upstate is not a thing we say
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in Washington we don't say the five
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oh that's definitely thing and we don't
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say the pot you don't say it in San
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Francisco either because the be
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described like yeah thats its creeping
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into the culture here but I five doesn't
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mean anything to you guys slow but
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people might say that 280 and it's
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considered Bay Area thinkin to to leave
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off the definite article that the answer
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is considered a very la thing to look at
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the definite article in front of a
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number for highway the 1005
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matter with those big ham but now now
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I'm I've been deputized basically by the
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cougar lady not of my own accord but she
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gave me the number
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her number and she said if anything goes
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on over there we be sure to give me a
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interesting okay i see ok the stories
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all coming together and I was like boom
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all right well if anything goes on over
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you're definitely on the list of people
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i'm gonna call now
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yeah there was you know there was always
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a list of people i was going to call the
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fire department the Environmental
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Protection Agency anyway so she just
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appeared on the porch and answer the
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door and this is but this is going to
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shock and and appalled you i think but
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I'm in my underwear
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ok and i'm wearing a I'm wearing
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headphones and I'm and I have a
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microphone yeah my own John you should
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be comfortable
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that's right i have actually you know
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the microphone i use is called Abby
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caster so this is the one you have to
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put on your chest
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yeah I've got my be castor it's not
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currently on my chest but it's on my
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dining room table I've got my laptop so
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i pick up the laptop the be castor the
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headphones the underwear i go to the
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front door and I opened and I'm just
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standing there in all my glory didn't
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check that didn't come across the audio
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but it really doesn't really add
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something to the picture
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well and you know and you her eyes got
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wide and she said are you on the phone
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said you know you heard it
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you were right here with me anyway she
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said yeah cheek sorry deputize me I
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don't know if I made it clear but i want
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you if there's any activity over there
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and she kind of gave up like an i
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gesture to the effect of if they're
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moving out or if they're like stealing
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the copper plumbing or something as
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they're leaving OIC I say what you want
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to give me a call because I don't want
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it to be one of those situations where
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there's no wall bourgogne got it ok I
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see its own how you wanted this role
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John no no she didn't but but i think i
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think having had a conversation with her
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now she considers me an ally because and
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I said to them when they were on my
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porch because it's because her husband
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was fairly quiet and I said you guys do
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this a lot you buy houses at auction and
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around and they're like oh yeah it's
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kind of our it's our thing I want my
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husband's a contractor and icicic and so
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this was another this was another
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indicator that they were grown-ups in
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that what they do as a couple is not go
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golfing it isn't a you know they don't
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go to Thailand they don't they don't
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race cars there thing is let's go buy
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houses at auction fix them up and sell
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got it and I was like what a very
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interesting like husband-wife thing you
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know like they do this together
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it's almost a kind of entrepreneurship
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absolutely but it's also absolutely has
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to be a hobby they have to like to go to
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auctions yeah they have to know what
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their you know buying a house is no
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small thing they have to know what
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they're getting into
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I'm betting that she handles the
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financials I say either so let that
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happen sometimes with people who sell
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real estate together
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mm no I mean when you got a couple that
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the the works that they have a project
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together but they also have their own
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important roles right so she's doing all
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the financial stuff which is probably no
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small potato and then she's the one that
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knocks on the door and she's the one
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that says hi neighbor here's the deal
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here's our new plant we're going to be
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working on the house across the street
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and we're trying to do a nice job and
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get and he just standing there he's
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looking at his boots the whole time
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chef one and he's thinking to himself I
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wonder how I wonder how cheaply I can
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redo the bathroom with book learning
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college sweatshirts he had on what you
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would call contractor close
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ok which I think of as like a clean
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heart kind of thing
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well but he's the supervisor right let's
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shoot he's the owner/operator of a plant
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plaid shirt yeah he's though he's
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licensed and bonded he doesn't need two
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keys not wearing a tool belt anymore but
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when the work is getting done he's not
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above swinging a hammer
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you know because he's sweet small
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independent contractor but but he
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definitely he definitely is like on the
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up-and-up with the city in the county
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he's not he's not he's not doing it
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under the under the table he's a
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straight shooter got it cut and I'm i
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didn't see their car but one hundred
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percent i bet it is a dodge ram truck
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with and I think it's the 2500 if you
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see a dodge ram 1500 that could be just
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a regular person is that you look like
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an f-150
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yeah so you're talking about okay i see
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interesting because f-150 is like that's
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a consumer pickup truck with all due
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respect
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yeah that's a half-time happen to have
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done okay okay and if you see somebody
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in a dodge 1 1500 you think oh they went
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to the day when truck shop at the condé
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truck yeah they chose the during the
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time just sayin like that's a definite
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go to costco kind of truck or put you in
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a canoe in the backcountry
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yeah but can you in the back or you're
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just somebody that wants a pickup truck
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because that's the that's the look
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you're going for
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or you figure yet you figure you're
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gonna have to haul your bicycles or
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maybe your it's a real truck then you're
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doing real work but you chose a ton
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pickup and that seems to me like
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features Chevy if you chose bored of you
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chosen dodge that's just aesthetic ok
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now at dodge 2500 diesel truck that was
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like extra tires
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no that's not one of those that's just
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the 2500 is like you're you are going to
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use this truck
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it's a working truck you're working
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person and you chosen the Dodge because
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it can it communicates to you
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less lip agility and more like I'm going
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to work here and this is the this is but
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this is a truck didn't look at that
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Oh work that's a Pilatus it's like a
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bulldog it sold out now if you see
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someone driving a dodge 3500 who it is
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almost ninety nine percent sure that
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that person is an asshole
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but up that ok
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what haha how did you how did you get to
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that I think I'll because you can just
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tell experience bears this out okay that
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that is the truck of choice for people
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who for people who like burn coal now
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this one does
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you can get this with the flared fenders
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right the ship the extra wheel and it's
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my understanding the extra wheel on
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there is because you're carrying things
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that are so heavy you would literally
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pop your tires because of the heaviness
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or towing if you're towing a big big big
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trailer more ground surface
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yeah you're gonna be horse trailer or
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something here you know you're gonna
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want the extra the Dooleys as they're
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called Julie's huh and almost almost
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universally those are now diesel-powered
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their big cummins diesel engines and
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they're there they're super macho and if
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you're pulling a horse trailer
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let's let me say this if you're driving
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at 3,500 dodge 3500 and you are pulling
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a horse trailer i will give you one
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opportunity to prove you're not an
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asshole
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ok but but that's the only dispensation
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i will offer everyone else is an asshole
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and if you ever see a 32-bit you ever
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see somebody burning coal which is to
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say that they have modified their diesel
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motor so that it creates intentionally
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creates big clouds of black smoke as a
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as a fuck you two environmentalist your
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your 1% driving a dodge 3500 and you
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don't see that you don't see the coal
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burning so much in the 1500 no no no why
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would what a 15-minute you just bought a
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truck you just bought a truck you're
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driving around in a truck dodge truck
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around we don't have two trucks like you
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can take care of that
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that's your truck engine it's your it's
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your car yeah when you're driving out in
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America i'm not talking about here on
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the coasts where people are you know
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living in their ivory towers and sipping
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wine out of
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little classes and lifting their pinkies
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and stuff when they drink coffee
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I'm talking about out in america in the
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united states of america places like the
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Dakotas or the Nebraska's you will find
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that every every every single person is
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driving a truck now there are no cars in
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those places they've eliminated all cars
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everyone is driving a truck and the
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trucks are just there in an arms race to
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see who can be the biggest asshole like
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and the truck is the way of
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communicating that the truck if that is
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the case then just having a truck is
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table stakes like you yeah we're not
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gonna get to really participate in the s
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operate unless you have one is time
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agreeing because i don't have the
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experience with it but I'm just trying
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to understand
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yeah if you're just driving a truck yeah
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your steps just normal you're just the
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normal and if you're driving a
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three-quarter ton truck
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it's like yeah i live in Nebraska i'm
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doing stuff I got able to move around
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who even if i'm a college professor i
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probably have hay bales to move around
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because because uh that's what my
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students it on at the University of
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Nebraska ok right and if you've ever
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been to University braska lecture hall
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it's just hay bales kind of stacked up
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in a like a grandstand that seems good
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use of the environment
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what's that was the mascot of the
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Nebraska team is not the Cornhuskers is
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yeah is it the other husking corn total
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hay bales to to build corn bales for the
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university
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oh it's a whole biome yeah and since
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we're gonna learn about corn you sit on
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corn your hall corn you teach corn you
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use corn to the thicken saw score all
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the way down you put corn in your truck
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but not it not if you're driving a
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diesel mhm but you because it was the
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ethanol ethanol is a gasoline product
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made out of corn
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ok I think if it's made out of corn it's
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technically called court ball
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corn dogs and Simpson that's respect and
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corn appalled was that was that great
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city in Greece who and there was also a
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book of the bible i think you have
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played on a brilliant corners by the
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loneliest monk brother really corn rolls
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that the history of Nebraska and channel
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yeah but probably it's very nice
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probably taught at the university when
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they teach the history it's probably
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time to buy a corn corn corn is does the
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medium well so university of nebraska is
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the intellectual school of Nebraska
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Nebraska State College dog doesn't it's
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where they really that's the real Aggie
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school and that's where they teach you
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how to burn coal that's where they're
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really in their corn there there there
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in their corns and they all have corns
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on their feet uh-huh
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it's really really really corny like
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sympathy weight when somebody gets
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pregnant he just gets there so much corn
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that cause corns corn is what's
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happening a sympathy weight yeah it's
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like sympathy weight it's like shaving
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your head when your friend is going
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through chemo that's a nice thing to do
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not see in my head I feel like I
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associate Iowa with corn
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mm but you know I because I think a lot
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of what I I'm not to say what i learned
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i think a lot of what I retained about
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America came from maps on placemats
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where there was one item associated with
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every state i think corn was on iowa
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right and what was the brassica I was it
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was a Dodge truck know and now sort of
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Florida you get you get an orange may be
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right out
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continue get an apple apple do they stop
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by three
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okay yeah what the pine trees being
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maybe Oregon
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oh IC IC but you know if you need and
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that's a lot night let's be honest a
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little bit reductive to bring it down to
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a single item
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yeah i think there are more pine trees
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in Washington Oregon but you're right
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Oregon have gets the country as their
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emblem I think back then organs should
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be like a handmade wooden wouldn't
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nowadays right nowadays a handmade
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wooden wallet or somebody in a
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Shakespearean costume standing on one
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the flute from Nebraska at the time I
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think what on that place math would have
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been a would have been like indicated by
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some jello with little fruit bits in it
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hmm i miss that i miss that but if you
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think about corn-fed beef was corn-fed
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beef coming from
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ok so that's more about beef and corn
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well but you can't have beef without the
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corn the corn it's gotta come from
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somewhere
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yep and I don't think it isn't like
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you're just taking your heard you say hi
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a slap on the button sentimiento
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cornfield
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no he's not know you guys does not a
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corn maze for steer you got a husk that
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corn you gotta shut that corner got a
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tote that barge and lift that bale and
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you gotta bail the girls in your 2500 a
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little drunk and land in jail and yeah
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okay well even before there were 2,500
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people were doing this with horse-drawn
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I don't know the answer on miss colorado
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what were you doing corn-fed beef comes
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from so i've been corn-fed beef is a
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real Nebraska thing they're real proud
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of it and I think they're not shipping
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let's just stay they're not shipping
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that corn from Iowa you know what I mean
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that's locally grown locally sourced ok
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oh it's farm-to-table corn right and
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we're gonna let me guess it's farm to
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form farm-to-table to farm-to-table farm
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that goes right to the steer you know
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it's just the form goes the corn goes
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through the steer through you and
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back-to-the-land hakuna matata but so
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now what days if you go so back in the
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day when you would go into a restaurant
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you get a corn-fed beef and anna and a
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wedge salad
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mhm it drink 14 gin martinis and then
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you'd sign the contract
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those days are gone my friend and now
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nowadays if you're going into a
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restaurant that's called The Walrus and
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the spaghetti squash you're going to
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find that call that you don't want to be
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fed by close one of those one of those
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logos that has like an X made out of
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like a fork and knife and it's got four
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letters in it like that kind of note
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that logo is called but like the the
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Portland logo
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yeah SQ ed
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or uh yeah that's kew order this is the
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whale and the squid the spaghetti squash
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what's going on
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yeah the work wale and then square in
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the spaghetti sauce if their spaghetti
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sauce I'm sorry spaghetti squash not
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spaghetti sauce that's a different place
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yeah have you ever have you ever made us
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spaghetti squash know I've seen photos i
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think it might have seen him in person
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but I'm i feel like the the inside kind
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of freaked me out
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yeah I tried at 1.2 i try to 1.2 say
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like yes okay I'm gonna be a person that
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eats spaghetti squash okay and I tried
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it and sure it it's a food it's an
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edible food but it isn't spaghetti and
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so let's stop pretending
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yeah it's sort of like carob spaghetti
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squash is the carib of start just care
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of the lines like fake chocolate shake
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doclet they used to get in the nineteen
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seventies you go over to a hippie house
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and they say what you like a cookie
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well yes I always wanna cookie it's a
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chocolate chip cookie dough i'll take
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always take a chocolate chip cookie and
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then you need it's like that's not
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chocolate
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that's some kind of that's a that's
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a--that's a prank as a chocolate-chip
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style cookie product
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yeah it's a bitter that's a bitter root
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you put in there yeah but so nowadays
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you don't want corn in your beef and I
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think there was something called corn
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finishing where you let you let a cow
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just wander around eat grass and then
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right at the end you put in a stockyard
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you'd beat corn like get all the corner
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only handle one little amuse-bouche
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before the end
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mm and so it is so that's how it gets
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all the fat the marbled fatkins just
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eating sugar corn but nowadays you don't
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want that you want to count to live in a
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bucolic environment you wanted to eat
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alfalfa until it's very last moment yep
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you want the counter have a name you
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want there to be a little girl in
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pigtails that takes little flowers and a
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basket outside its got like an
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associate's degree the cow
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yeah yeah from the egg school no yes
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indeed yeah absolutely absolutely yeah
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his tracks 200 really really macho my
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goodness 3500 right it's just if you see
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a truck with a confederate flag in the
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back window ninety-nine percent of the
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well now wait a minute i think of dodge
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ram 3500 as very much being in Nebraska
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South Dakota truck maybe as far as
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Missouri but I think when you get down
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into the South like I think of an
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Alabama truckers being a Chevrolet okay
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and like an eagle you know it's hard to
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be like the f250 right is the standard
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truck but i'm going to say that f 250 is
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somewhere do it you know they're they're
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doing farming in in ohio they're doing
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farming in Michigan law just add this is
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just a random data point but as he as
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you probably know like my neighborhood
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if there are people who are trades
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people there are a lot of those the sort
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of folks who live in my neighborhood and
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there are a lot of white pickup trucks
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and i'm going to say the preponderance
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is forwards and Toyotas now this is
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Captain Sisko right but it's a lot of
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what we're going to scroll forward 150
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arm sort of paradigm sighs trucks and
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boy lot of them have the crap beat out
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of him these are these are people who do
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all kinds of different stuff its stated
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these are not costco trucks they are
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really really using these and I think in
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some cases it's like what they could
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afford and what they'll use rubber
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because that's kind of vibe in the
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neighborhood so I think that's true that
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is the the the for the reason the Fords
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are the best selling trucks are always
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is that they're just used by everybody
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it's not a thing that you're driving
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around with a camouflage baseball hat
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and I've been a piece of school in your
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mouth it's a thing where you're going to
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need you need a truck to get the kind of
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stuff it doesn't like little step and
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it's not like you mean it doesn't that
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sort of tricked-out like I'm here to
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make a statement about being a truck
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it's got a shop back on the side and the
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the lock the door lock has been pinged
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out and it's been replaced with a
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padlock know she'll be the ignition is
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probably gone and you start with a
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screwdriver
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are you doing driving far that you
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started with a screwdriver no that's the
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um are you feeling good about your role
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with this this new of potential neighbor
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contractor of years ago
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do you feel like are you feeling we do i
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put this way will you know when it's
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time to give her a call
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well so what I'm guessing is that when
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they finally go because i'm i'm on good
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terms with her I don't know if I've ever
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mention her name i think i have
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intensified Octavia but you have you
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it's something historically if memory
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serves like you have been friendly with
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her you have been kind of worried about
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her you sort of checked in on her and
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just generally wish for goodwill for her
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yea even more than friendly with their I
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feel like I'm her friend and she has
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only very occasionally called me on the
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phone and one time she broached sheep
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she tried to bridge
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she tried to build a bridge over my
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River Kwai who which was she came to me
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and asked me for a loan to build the
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fence this fence that I'm the Spence
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that have to stare at all day and she
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said you know I need to build this fence
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it's halfway built which it was
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and the guy the junk hauling guy once
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another fifteen hundred dollars to
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finish the fence and I need to get the
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fence finished because the neighborhood
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kids are coming in the window and
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they're stealing the woofers and
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tweeters on my speaker right and I said
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jamaica good fences make good neighbors
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this is not a good fence and one other
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thing that makes good neighbors is not
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asking neighbors for loans particularly
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to finish shit fences and she was like
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right and I said yep i know that you
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probably felt that you were in a
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situation where you needed to do that in
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order to finish this offense but I'm
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opposed to the fence and also I you know
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it would be a guy would be giving you
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the money to finish a thing that I think
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is idiotic right so but but other than
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that we have always been very tight and
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she's never really called me because she
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she's never called me to say like
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there's something suspicious she
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generally called me to say have you seen
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and her cat lives on my front porch no
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kidding
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yeah which is another thing her cat
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lives on my front porch but her cat
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won't let me pet him and so what that
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means is every night at 2am my ride home
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with my keys jangling and some box in my
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arms I am newly startled by this cat
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leaping out of the dark shadows on my
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porch and we're running away from me and
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45 years I've said kitty k-k-kitty it's
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just me hi kitty and the cat gives me
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nothing
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yes but he's living on my porch that's
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where he wants to be my porch is really
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disappointing John yeah and when he's
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the one when i had the possum that SAT
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there licking his paws
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oh come on this just can't have
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culpability
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yeah like you're not doing shit around
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here it's sickening so she'll call me
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sometimes she's like I haven't seen my
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cat couple days and I I never say this
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to her but I feel the same way like hey
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lady if you're give your cat got taken
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up a tree by a couple of Records i'm not
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going to shed a tear for him
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ya gotta figure shot though but I do
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feel like when they move it's going to
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happen in the middle of the night
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yeah and I don't think anybody in there
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is going to take I don't think they're
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gonna be like I was that one time when I
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was living in the apartment with the rat
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where I took all the light bulbs
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hahaha oh that's just that's just bratty
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that's just being that's just churlish
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am I don't think they're going to do
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that because there's not that much
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market for secondhand light
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