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00:00:00 ◼   ► I have a bit of a cold can hear it just

00:00:03 ◼   ► when you sniffle what kind of culture

00:00:05 ◼   ► got I got the good kind

00:00:07 ◼   ► I got the kind of don't i don't feel

00:00:08 ◼   ► like my whole body doesn't feel sick and

00:00:10 ◼   ► I only feel sick from like the neck up

00:00:13 ◼   ► I feel like a constipated that's a good

00:00:15 ◼   ► girl it's a good called I don't feel I

00:00:17 ◼   ► hate a long cold now it's not a long

00:00:19 ◼   ► cold it's it's it i feel like my head is

00:00:22 ◼   ► a prop in a Nickelodeon TV show

00:00:26 ◼   ► uh-huh uh-huh right just take it down

00:00:30 ◼   ► from the shelf and snap it around if you

00:00:32 ◼   ► stay with code word then this dinner

00:00:34 ◼   ► then all the group is gonna is gonna

00:00:35 ◼   ► come gushing out

00:00:37 ◼   ► oh god that was weird like I seem to

00:00:40 ◼   ► like that goop little too much when

00:00:44 ◼   ► there's some cute girl over the music

00:00:45 ◼   ► career that was on there

00:00:47 ◼   ► oh yeah otherwise i wanted some light on

00:00:49 ◼   ► that my sister used to watch that show

00:00:52 ◼   ► so the and so therefore i used to watch

00:00:54 ◼   ► that show because what else are you

00:00:57 ◼   ► going to do when someone else in your

00:00:59 ◼   ► family with one TV set is watching the

00:01:01 ◼   ► show that you don't even enjoy and that

00:01:04 ◼   ► you're going to sit there and comment

00:01:05 ◼   ► about how you don't enjoy it every

00:01:06 ◼   ► single day during a half hour that it's

00:01:08 ◼   ► not there is nothing else in the

00:01:09 ◼   ► universe you could do during that time

00:01:11 ◼   ► then to sit there and complain about it

00:01:14 ◼   ► mm it's like a chain together because

00:01:16 ◼   ► there's times when you're going to watch

00:01:17 ◼   ► your baseball or whatever and she's

00:01:19 ◼   ► going to be moaning and so you could

00:01:21 ◼   ► always in cause a reaction similar to

00:01:24 ◼   ► that when you watch it or as i

00:01:26 ◼   ► understand i'm an only child as you know

00:01:28 ◼   ► but you can also hit her understand I

00:01:30 ◼   ► wish I was an only child

00:01:32 ◼   ► mm I you know I never looked back to I

00:01:35 ◼   ► gotta tell you the truth there's you

00:01:37 ◼   ► know I few things get under my skin the

00:01:39 ◼   ► way the phrase just the one gets under

00:01:42 ◼   ► my skin

00:01:43 ◼   ► I don't know why that bothers bothers me

00:01:44 ◼   ► so much but it really really bugs me and

00:01:47 ◼   ► and I as an only child my daughter that

00:01:50 ◼   ► are my wife is the youngest of seven so

00:01:52 ◼   ► she she know that that's close to being

00:01:55 ◼   ► an only child

00:01:56 ◼   ► it is an injury when you're the youngest

00:01:58 ◼   ► you're very you you well I think there's

00:02:00 ◼   ► really only one only child in a seven

00:02:01 ◼   ► child family that's the oldest they take

00:02:04 ◼   ► a thousand pictures that kid they take

00:02:05 ◼   ► 500 pictures in this connection you can

00:02:07 ◼   ► do the math there's one picture of my

00:02:08 ◼   ► daughter play something a little bit

00:02:11 ◼   ► about it

00:02:11 ◼   ► i think is one of her like getting a

00:02:14 ◼   ► broken arm set in the garage or

00:02:16 ◼   ► something with that perfect i'll be

00:02:19 ◼   ► honest i find that stopping over x-ray

00:02:20 ◼   ► it just says Madeline 1978 it's rubbed

00:02:27 ◼   ► off and just broken wrists but you're

00:02:30 ◼   ► doing well you certainly sound you sound

00:02:31 ◼   ► great for Sigma now you see my command

00:02:33 ◼   ► is not afraid to to tweak his body with

00:02:36 ◼   ► the chemicals are indeed we take for

00:02:39 ◼   ► that you do a sudafed you go go to the

00:02:40 ◼   ► pharmacy now here if we want to get

00:02:42 ◼   ► sudafed the real thing

00:02:44 ◼   ► the stuff that really works you gotta go

00:02:46 ◼   ► I guess its federal do you have to go to

00:02:48 ◼   ► the pharmacy and plopped down in july i

00:02:50 ◼   ► have honestly given up on legitimate

00:02:52 ◼   ► sudafed I don't know that we have any

00:02:55 ◼   ► might have some stashed away somewhere

00:02:56 ◼   ► where I used to I used to always suffer

00:02:59 ◼   ► and and take nothing and then Amy would

00:03:01 ◼   ► tell me you're an idiot you're all

00:03:03 ◼   ► stuffed up you got to take some sudafed

00:03:04 ◼   ► and i would take some sudafed and then I

00:03:06 ◼   ► would realize you know this is a there's

00:03:08 ◼   ► a there's a medicine that actually does

00:03:11 ◼   ► what it's supposed to do but it really

00:03:15 ◼   ► isit's yeah i know you you've used one

00:03:18 ◼   ► of your recurring bit but the way you

00:03:20 ◼   ► know the the the but hoops you have to

00:03:22 ◼   ► jump through now to buy sudafed united

00:03:24 ◼   ► states are so absurd that it i realized

00:03:26 ◼   ► i was a bit i polished not even a bit

00:03:27 ◼   ► but it's it's a very frustrating

00:03:30 ◼   ► yeah because it's you know it's

00:03:31 ◼   ► something that actually worked it worked

00:03:34 ◼   ► as you know people people used to walk

00:03:36 ◼   ► in there in the days when I would enjoy

00:03:38 ◼   ► faedron it used to be you could walk in

00:03:40 ◼   ► there the ephedrine that I used to get

00:03:42 ◼   ► the really good stuff the unadulterated

00:03:43 ◼   ► unadulterated stuff that i would buy for

00:03:45 ◼   ► band practice in the eighties you get a

00:03:47 ◼   ► bottle of like think 50 for three

00:03:50 ◼   ► dollars American seeing a malt liquor

00:03:52 ◼   ► and fifty ephedrine for less than five

00:03:54 ◼   ► bucks so you know that's right company

00:03:57 ◼   ► so people go in there and these these

00:03:58 ◼   ► low-level doofuses would go in and steal

00:04:01 ◼   ► packages and packages sudafed and then I

00:04:03 ◼   ► guess make a small amount of my theory

00:04:06 ◼   ► on this is that it is to stop illegal

00:04:08 ◼   ► drug production i believe but you know

00:04:10 ◼   ► you watch more movies I don't think

00:04:12 ◼   ► that's how you do it you want to

00:04:13 ◼   ► lufthansa level heights you're not gonna

00:04:15 ◼   ► go to walgreens for times like you're

00:04:16 ◼   ► going to think bigger

00:04:17 ◼   ► I think you have hijacked a truck you'll

00:04:19 ◼   ► stick something in your gang jacket and

00:04:21 ◼   ► walk out yeah I don't understand why it

00:04:23 ◼   ► can't just be a

00:04:25 ◼   ► using a ball limit you know that you

00:04:27 ◼   ► could buy 10 24 capsules in a single

00:04:31 ◼   ► transaction at the counter because if

00:04:34 ◼   ► you if you know Phyllis some kind of

00:04:35 ◼   ► reasonable limit like that then how

00:04:36 ◼   ► would you possibly a mass large-scale

00:04:39 ◼   ► amounts of this stuff wouldn't be worth

00:04:40 ◼   ► it i mean you definitely you know what

00:04:42 ◼   ► if you just hop around town to every

00:04:43 ◼   ► single walgreens that you would get you

00:04:47 ◼   ► know picking up 24 at a time that dead

00:04:49 ◼   ► but by the end of the day you'd end up

00:04:51 ◼   ► with don't know you know hundred and

00:04:53 ◼   ► forty capsules give a sense of how much

00:04:55 ◼   ► meth you could make on a day like that i

00:04:56 ◼   ► don't know i don't know i'm guessing not

00:04:58 ◼   ► like a lot even if you have a bathtub

00:05:00 ◼   ► and the right chemicals i bet you can't

00:05:02 ◼   ► make a time math with that much cold

00:05:04 ◼   ► medicine yeah I just don't get it i feel

00:05:05 ◼   ► like it's over reaction and I've i never

00:05:08 ◼   ► i personally have never and enjoyed

00:05:10 ◼   ► sudafed and I i guess i feel that way

00:05:12 ◼   ► about a lot of former college illogical

00:05:16 ◼   ► you let go in the other direction

00:05:18 ◼   ► yeah I like you like something that

00:05:20 ◼   ► comes with fellow yeah exactly exactly

00:05:22 ◼   ► what i don't need is we have cold like

00:05:24 ◼   ► this i don't i don't need anything

00:05:26 ◼   ► soon you don't you ever do the theraflu

00:05:29 ◼   ► I've tried crap like that never does

00:05:32 ◼   ► anything em they're flowing imodium and

00:05:34 ◼   ► that's what keeps this country running

00:05:36 ◼   ► hey I would get so much less

00:05:40 ◼   ► accomplished in the aggregate without

00:05:42 ◼   ► this two things i'm not saying take them

00:05:44 ◼   ► at once unless you're gonna drink a lot

00:05:45 ◼   ► of water but it's nice you know it's

00:05:47 ◼   ► like Nietzsche says it's nice to know

00:05:48 ◼   ► it's there

00:05:50 ◼   ► the motive is is I was one of the best

00:05:53 ◼   ► named best put a name they came up with

00:05:56 ◼   ► the mode foot

00:05:58 ◼   ► what would you have called it I don't

00:05:59 ◼   ► know but somehow it connotes what it

00:06:01 ◼   ► does without being gross and you know

00:06:03 ◼   ► that that's you know that that's what

00:06:05 ◼   ► the meeting was that somebody at the

00:06:07 ◼   ► meeting they they said look we're

00:06:08 ◼   ► nobody's getting up from this table

00:06:10 ◼   ► until we come up with a name for this

00:06:11 ◼   ► thing right we know it works reasonably

00:06:14 ◼   ► happens to show networks it

00:06:17 ◼   ► yeah the the pointy headed guy from the

00:06:20 ◼   ► lab is like well it has to end with a

00:06:21 ◼   ► modem it has to end with odium for legal

00:06:23 ◼   ► reasons and yeah but what people get a

00:06:25 ◼   ► sense that it works immediately

00:06:28 ◼   ► wait a minute well let's go to the

00:06:30 ◼   ► whiteboard immediate code and I got no

00:06:34 ◼   ► impacted

00:06:36 ◼   ► sure sure everything is a modem is like

00:06:40 ◼   ► be really went beer in mobile you'll eat

00:06:42 ◼   ► you pay for imodium a couple days later

00:06:44 ◼   ► I don't want the real your show but just

00:06:46 ◼   ► so you know if you take a lot of imodium

00:06:48 ◼   ► like a therapeutic dose it doesn't mean

00:06:51 ◼   ► it goes away

00:06:52 ◼   ► you know what i mean it's it's like

00:06:54 ◼   ► you're basically you're sweeping that

00:06:56 ◼   ► detris under the rug and that rug will

00:06:58 ◼   ► eventually get full probably kind of

00:07:00 ◼   ► gross i'm also i also would like to find

00:07:03 ◼   ► out what you really show but i would

00:07:04 ◼   ► like to thank you also for first of all

00:07:05 ◼   ► making me really want what's the name of

00:07:08 ◼   ► that drink

00:07:09 ◼   ► Henry box Brown oh my god that sounds so

00:07:12 ◼   ► good and also I'm just very grateful

00:07:16 ◼   ► that you have taught me about the

00:07:18 ◼   ► existence of mr. Henry box Brown always

00:07:20 ◼   ► another great story isn't it was an

00:07:22 ◼   ► urban myth and I can't believe that's

00:07:23 ◼   ► real

00:07:24 ◼   ► there's a couple of mean I could go on

00:07:26 ◼   ► and on and on about Hopsin under mat and

00:07:28 ◼   ► someday like I want to come to

00:07:29 ◼   ► Philadelphia just to go to someday I

00:07:31 ◼   ► want to I you know you're on you're the

00:07:33 ◼   ► guy who I know if I could get you in the

00:07:36 ◼   ► right mood you would love it but you're

00:07:37 ◼   ► the one friend of mine who I worry that

00:07:40 ◼   ► that maybe you wouldn't is a fan is it

00:07:44 ◼   ► like talking about your drink guy rolled

00:07:45 ◼   ► up sleeves don't know you but but but

00:07:47 ◼   ► you you you might worry that it is when

00:07:50 ◼   ► you get there you might think all this

00:07:52 ◼   ► is going to be one of those places but

00:07:53 ◼   ► it's not i think if i get a couple box

00:07:55 ◼   ► Browns under my belt i'm going to help

00:07:56 ◼   ► right right one of the things is and and

00:07:59 ◼   ► and you're going to use you hear this

00:08:01 ◼   ► and i know you're going to worry that

00:08:02 ◼   ► the place odds that place there's ok

00:08:04 ◼   ► there's no signage there's no marking on

00:08:06 ◼   ► the outside that says this is Hopsin

00:08:08 ◼   ► line no Matt and in fact it's in a

00:08:10 ◼   ► stretch of Chinatown here in

00:08:11 ◼   ► Philadelphia is on the side of the

00:08:13 ◼   ► street where it you really wouldn't

00:08:14 ◼   ► think there's any open retail

00:08:15 ◼   ► establishments on that street on the

00:08:17 ◼   ► other side of the street there's a

00:08:18 ◼   ► couple of nice chinese restaurants but

00:08:21 ◼   ► on this side of the street it looks like

00:08:23 ◼   ► everything's closed including the

00:08:25 ◼   ► building where Hopsin yes and there's

00:08:27 ◼   ► just a little love

00:08:28 ◼   ► there's a like metal gate in front of

00:08:30 ◼   ► the door and a little buzzer to ring the

00:08:32 ◼   ► buzzer and maybe the guy comes out maybe

00:08:35 ◼   ► nobody comes out and you just stand

00:08:37 ◼   ► there in your weight and eventually

00:08:38 ◼   ► somebody comes out and if there is any

00:08:42 ◼   ► room available they will let you in and

00:08:44 ◼   ► if there is no room available they will

00:08:45 ◼   ► tell you

00:08:47 ◼   ► then you'll have to wait because they

00:08:50 ◼   ► don't want anybody it's a type of place

00:08:51 ◼   ► and I appreciate this is some more like

00:08:53 ◼   ► you're almost like a restaurant where

00:08:54 ◼   ► you're not allowed to just stand around

00:08:56 ◼   ► either have a seat at the bar or you

00:08:58 ◼   ► have a table or you're not inside yet

00:09:01 ◼   ► they have a little auntie room for you

00:09:04 ◼   ► come in and and lead the owner you will

00:09:09 ◼   ► explain the rules of the place to the

00:09:10 ◼   ► antechamber the entire floor is paved

00:09:13 ◼   ► with tails up pennies from corner to

00:09:18 ◼   ► corner

00:09:19 ◼   ► well except there's two or three of them

00:09:22 ◼   ► their heads up if you look closely it's

00:09:25 ◼   ► beautiful though it's really really have

00:09:27 ◼   ► a they have rules and apparently they

00:09:29 ◼   ► have is it accurate they have a dress

00:09:30 ◼   ► code they do have a dress code

00:09:32 ◼   ► just like the number one Google searches

00:09:34 ◼   ► like four hops along the address

00:09:35 ◼   ► definitely a dress code you cannot you

00:09:37 ◼   ► can't get in there with shorts not

00:09:39 ◼   ► really a problem at this time of year

00:09:40 ◼   ► but no shorts no flip-flops gotta look

00:09:44 ◼   ► like an adult that should that should

00:09:46 ◼   ► just be a rule everywhere i think is

00:09:48 ◼   ► sneakers might be a problem

00:09:50 ◼   ► i I'm not sure so that might be the one

00:09:54 ◼   ► thing that I in John just what I will I

00:09:57 ◼   ► will make it work

00:09:58 ◼   ► I'm gonna come here just for that I will

00:09:59 ◼   ► make it work because this and it's the

00:10:01 ◼   ► key to this is the than if i meet you

00:10:04 ◼   ► want maybe you want to tell your

00:10:05 ◼   ► audience with this is it sounds like a

00:10:07 ◼   ► very deceptively simple drought that has

00:10:10 ◼   ► a couple of important well I'll tell you

00:10:11 ◼   ► the first time I had the first time I

00:10:13 ◼   ► had it I've been intrigued by hop sing

00:10:14 ◼   ► ever since I heard about it and it was

00:10:16 ◼   ► supposed to open

00:10:17 ◼   ► I don't know your and a half ago or

00:10:18 ◼   ► something like that and i had my eye on

00:10:20 ◼   ► it and kept checking a couple of the was

00:10:23 ◼   ► like the only thing that made me check

00:10:24 ◼   ► the Philadelphia food blogs and stuff

00:10:27 ◼   ► like that and it never seen you know and

00:10:30 ◼   ► I'd go past it and look and of course

00:10:32 ◼   ► and even now it doesn't really look like

00:10:33 ◼   ► it's open but there was never any spread

00:10:35 ◼   ► sign that the thing was ever getting

00:10:37 ◼   ► closer to opening and then about a year

00:10:42 ◼   ► ago it was supposed to open right after

00:10:45 ◼   ► like new years you know 11 months ago or

00:10:48 ◼   ► whatever it was it was getting rumored

00:10:50 ◼   ► that it was going to be was going to

00:10:51 ◼   ► open soon and the word was that if you

00:10:54 ◼   ► don't follow him on Twitter that you can

00:10:57 ◼   ► maybe get invited in early so I just all

00:10:58 ◼   ► I did was follow the guy and and I don't

00:11:02 ◼   ► know week or two later I got like a I

00:11:05 ◼   ► don't know there's a gnat reply or DM or

00:11:06 ◼   ► something but it was you know you if you

00:11:08 ◼   ► want to come in for a tasting we're

00:11:09 ◼   ► having a tasting invitation-only tasting

00:11:12 ◼   ► tuesday night you want to come in and I

00:11:14 ◼   ► was like yeah of course although i had

00:11:17 ◼   ► no you know what actually I could just

00:11:20 ◼   ► go on and on with this guy that is so

00:11:22 ◼   ► great

00:11:23 ◼   ► actually what he did was that before i

00:11:25 ◼   ► got invited to the tasting he invited me

00:11:27 ◼   ► and Amy to come in one afternoon just to

00:11:29 ◼   ► see the place that's right I said I

00:11:31 ◼   ► didn't get a drink the first time I went

00:11:33 ◼   ► in

00:11:33 ◼   ► so Amy and I come over it's like a

00:11:36 ◼   ► Tuesday afternoon and Jonas stone school

00:11:38 ◼   ► and he lets us in were you hoping just

00:11:44 ◼   ► curiosity when you went there all

00:11:46 ◼   ► Genesis at school we kind of hoping to

00:11:48 ◼   ► get a drink now I because I didn't think

00:11:51 ◼   ► it was even legal because i don't think

00:11:52 ◼   ► that it was you know I mean they're just

00:11:54 ◼   ► like a lot of Licensing type situation

00:11:57 ◼   ► not that you can't you know

00:11:58 ◼   ► pour one out you know on this like to

00:12:00 ◼   ► see had one before you write but we go

00:12:01 ◼   ► in and we come in the main room and it

00:12:04 ◼   ► really is it's just a beautiful it's

00:12:06 ◼   ► just beautiful I can't do any justice to

00:12:08 ◼   ► I mean there's a couple of photographs

00:12:09 ◼   ► that are out there of the room but it

00:12:11 ◼   ► really is just a beautiful place and he

00:12:12 ◼   ► was showing us some of the stuff but the

00:12:14 ◼   ► whole time

00:12:15 ◼   ► there's a guy sitting at a table in the

00:12:17 ◼   ► middle of the room a young guy maybe at

00:12:19 ◼   ► 22 23 and and then offhandedly we have

00:12:23 ◼   ► no what we have no idea who he is he's

00:12:24 ◼   ► just sitting there like sort of very

00:12:26 ◼   ► straight back in about five minutes in

00:12:28 ◼   ► li lets us know that this guy was in

00:12:30 ◼   ► here he's in here interviewing for a job

00:12:32 ◼   ► as a bartender and in the meantime

00:12:34 ◼   ► Natalie isn't paying any attention to

00:12:36 ◼   ► him and he apparently abandoned the

00:12:38 ◼   ► interview halfway to give me any of this

00:12:40 ◼   ► tour of the place and I think it was a

00:12:44 ◼   ► total fight club situation where he was

00:12:46 ◼   ► testing the guy you know like what are

00:12:49 ◼   ► you going to do if i stop this job

00:12:50 ◼   ► interview halfway through to give these

00:12:53 ◼   ► other two people a tour of of the bar

00:12:55 ◼   ► and none of us acknowledge you for 30

00:12:57 ◼   ► minutes

00:12:58 ◼   ► it's a kind of an employment hazing yeah

00:13:00 ◼   ► i think so let's see let's see if you're

00:13:02 ◼   ► gonna make it here Johnny right that's

00:13:04 ◼   ► good

00:13:04 ◼   ► but you know one of the things that hit

00:13:06 ◼   ► me right and struck me right away on

00:13:07 ◼   ► that even on that tour is that he really

00:13:09 ◼   ► does have the most extraordinary

00:13:12 ◼   ► selection of liquor I've ever seen in my

00:13:15 ◼   ► entire life in terms of Bourbons and the

00:13:19 ◼   ► stuff that i like it then and can judge

00:13:21 ◼   ► that the quality of the collection I

00:13:23 ◼   ► mean it's really is sort of a uh I don't

00:13:25 ◼   ► know like a Stephen King type story

00:13:27 ◼   ► where he's he's pulled some of this

00:13:29 ◼   ► stuff from another universe you know

00:13:31 ◼   ► like all sorts of stuff I've ever i've

00:13:33 ◼   ► never even heard of over here for roses

00:13:34 ◼   ► bourbon pretty good on ya ya i get

00:13:39 ◼   ► confused because there's a there's a

00:13:40 ◼   ► there's a bomb wine with roses and I no

00:13:42 ◼   ► no there were differences you know for

00:13:44 ◼   ► roses is pretty good and I think its

00:13:46 ◼   ► general runnin around 30-35 dollars

00:13:48 ◼   ► really good stuff and then there's

00:13:50 ◼   ► somebody sent me a bottle of that once

00:13:51 ◼   ► it was true yeah it's really good and

00:13:53 ◼   ► then there's a four roses something

00:13:55 ◼   ► something maybe I have four roses select

00:13:57 ◼   ► or something like that which i have seen

00:13:58 ◼   ► as well and I think it's maybe like ten

00:14:00 ◼   ► dollars more

00:14:01 ◼   ► he has four different for roses bourbon

00:14:05 ◼   ► he's got four roses the four roses other

00:14:07 ◼   ► thing that I've heard and he's got these

00:14:08 ◼   ► other two that I like where do you get

00:14:11 ◼   ► how do you even get that how do you how

00:14:12 ◼   ► do you get that at right it just right

00:14:14 ◼   ► down the line with all of you know all

00:14:16 ◼   ► your favorite distillers he's just got a

00:14:18 ◼   ► black maple hill which is really good

00:14:21 ◼   ► stuff but then he's got black maple hill

00:14:23 ◼   ► black label which died

00:14:25 ◼   ► you can't get it I don't even know where

00:14:26 ◼   ► did it's like he made it up it's like

00:14:28 ◼   ► he's got this one bottle of black maple

00:14:29 ◼   ► hill Black Label bourbon so I was super

00:14:32 ◼   ► super impressed

00:14:33 ◼   ► long story short a week or two later I

00:14:35 ◼   ► get invited to a tasting at places and

00:14:36 ◼   ► open yet and the way the tasting went is

00:14:40 ◼   ► it was I don't know seven or eight of us

00:14:42 ◼   ► and we don't get to pick anything he

00:14:45 ◼   ► said here this is your first strength

00:14:46 ◼   ► and we know and and you know you tell me

00:14:52 ◼   ► what you think about what do you think

00:14:53 ◼   ► it is and I can tell right away it was

00:14:55 ◼   ► sort of like a screwdriver it was gonna

00:14:57 ◼   ► definitely orange juice that I could

00:15:00 ◼   ► only guess because of the lack of any

00:15:02 ◼   ► other strong taste that it was vodka but

00:15:04 ◼   ► there was like a frothy nasaan top i had

00:15:05 ◼   ► no idea what he added and ends up nope

00:15:09 ◼   ► it's just a screwdriver just a just

00:15:12 ◼   ► fresh extracted is testing fresh

00:15:15 ◼   ► extracted orange juice

00:15:17 ◼   ► and an ultimate UL matv vodka but

00:15:24 ◼   ► because it was fresh extracted juice it

00:15:26 ◼   ► like had this frothiness to it that was

00:15:28 ◼   ► amazing and then the next drink he gave

00:15:29 ◼   ► me was the Henry box Brown which is

00:15:32 ◼   ► fresh extracted red grape juice and

00:15:36 ◼   ► eldorado 15 you're aged rum but here's

00:15:39 ◼   ► the thing he gave me that drink and so

00:15:41 ◼   ► what you know what do you do anything

00:15:42 ◼   ► number one I loved it it was just

00:15:44 ◼   ► unbelievable it's just unbelievable

00:15:46 ◼   ► drink it's it's so refreshing but it's

00:15:49 ◼   ► also clearly like a very very very busy

00:15:52 ◼   ► drink but I had no idea what was in it

00:15:54 ◼   ► I had no idea i couldn't tell it was

00:15:56 ◼   ► grape juice I couldn't tell that it was

00:15:58 ◼   ► wrong i was like guys that like I was

00:16:01 ◼   ► like I I don't know

00:16:03 ◼   ► and because I've never heard of that

00:16:05 ◼   ► I've never in my life heard of anybody

00:16:06 ◼   ► mixing grape juice and rum and in fact

00:16:08 ◼   ► that's all there is in the drink you

00:16:11 ◼   ► know you hear rum and you think stuff

00:16:13 ◼   ► like you know you think tiki drinks hero

00:16:15 ◼   ► pineapple i think i think it's like a

00:16:17 ◼   ► headache like I can't drink a lot of rum

00:16:18 ◼   ► well-run get I don't enjoy it like the

00:16:21 ◼   ► way I enjoy purpose yeah well and rum

00:16:23 ◼   ► I've done what I know I don't have I

00:16:25 ◼   ► note that symbol full about room

00:16:27 ◼   ► compared to want to know about bourbon

00:16:28 ◼   ► but one of the problems with rum is that

00:16:30 ◼   ► unlike a lot of other liquor around the

00:16:32 ◼   ► world there's it's unregulated so like

00:16:34 ◼   ► there's a lot you can't call something

00:16:35 ◼   ► mean you can't just get together with

00:16:37 ◼   ► some some stuff and make something call

00:16:39 ◼   ► it bourbon burger champagne champagne

00:16:41 ◼   ► exactly exactly like champagne it's very

00:16:43 ◼   ► highly regulated you have to i think

00:16:45 ◼   ► even it's so regulated you have to make

00:16:47 ◼   ► bourbon and tennessee I don't think you

00:16:49 ◼   ► can even call apartment didn't come out

00:16:50 ◼   ► of Tennessee something i don't know but

00:16:54 ◼   ► it's really ended on the percentage of

00:16:56 ◼   ► of wheat vs corn it has to be in the

00:16:59 ◼   ► certain you know very narrow range you

00:17:04 ◼   ► know it's like--there's like truly like

00:17:06 ◼   ► a legal legal definition of the

00:17:07 ◼   ► difference between bourbon and rye

00:17:09 ◼   ► etcetera etcetera but there's no such

00:17:11 ◼   ► regulations around rum you can make

00:17:13 ◼   ► anything that you know anything and you

00:17:14 ◼   ► can make a map bathtub around exactly

00:17:16 ◼   ► and you can just call it from which is

00:17:18 ◼   ► why drum tends to you know exactly why

00:17:20 ◼   ► people associated with headaches so it

00:17:22 ◼   ► could be there's a and Plus on my ass

00:17:24 ◼   ► but it could be the kind of impurities

00:17:27 ◼   ► and that have been introduced going to a

00:17:29 ◼   ► lack of right

00:17:30 ◼   ► place exactly i didn't anyone in generic

00:17:32 ◼   ► drugs and I think you know us suffers

00:17:33 ◼   ► similarly from from you know that the

00:17:36 ◼   ► low-end stuff is truly the double now

00:17:39 ◼   ► that I'm a tequila guy so notice the

00:17:41 ◼   ► difference it's a huge difference and it

00:17:43 ◼   ► just gives the whole it gives the whole

00:17:44 ◼   ► liquor a bad name though right because

00:17:47 ◼   ► you know a really good tequila is is no

00:17:49 ◼   ► reason to be concerned about like you

00:17:52 ◼   ► know but I'm like bourbon the difference

00:17:54 ◼   ► between a medium good tequila and a bad

00:17:57 ◼   ► tequila is huge

00:17:59 ◼   ► oh yeah I mean it's really it's crazy

00:18:01 ◼   ► like I get so I forget what i get i

00:18:03 ◼   ► usually drunk getting it but the now

00:18:05 ◼   ► I'll get like I get the I like a white

00:18:07 ◼   ► you know I can make this thing they call

00:18:08 ◼   ► the paleo cocktail this is the i don't

00:18:10 ◼   ► ever made you drink one of these no I

00:18:12 ◼   ► don't let it set on dude it's tequila

00:18:14 ◼   ► lime juice and soda stream I don't know

00:18:17 ◼   ► I've had one of those

00:18:18 ◼   ► yeah oh I don't know your client had a

00:18:20 ◼   ► name for it that well you know that's

00:18:21 ◼   ► what they call it but it's it's the

00:18:24 ◼   ► perfect drink it's it's so refreshing

00:18:26 ◼   ► and you can make one about seven seconds

00:18:27 ◼   ► which is nice but but you know the thing

00:18:30 ◼   ► is I i use the Blanco right now and

00:18:33 ◼   ► minify if I'm forgot to go to the bodega

00:18:35 ◼   ► and get the jose cuervo gold it's like

00:18:37 ◼   ► oh this is like you know Jimmy Buffett

00:18:40 ◼   ► you like urinated and I've steel pot or

00:18:42 ◼   ► something i don't i just don't care what

00:18:44 ◼   ► your ratio what it would do what do you

00:18:45 ◼   ► want your measurements are publicly or

00:18:47 ◼   ► privately or publicly just put a little

00:18:50 ◼   ► bit little bit of the cue on yeah well

00:18:54 ◼   ► it's not what I do is I put it I put it

00:18:56 ◼   ► in until I think that's just a little

00:18:57 ◼   ► bit too much and that's what I know it's

00:18:58 ◼   ► good so you don't and then I don't

00:18:59 ◼   ► measure measure it now

00:19:02 ◼   ► eyeballing you know my poli you make

00:19:04 ◼   ► sure your tattoos measurement drinks I

00:19:05 ◼   ► even measure my martinis

00:19:07 ◼   ► I'm gonna tell my wife that i'm going to

00:19:08 ◼   ► go out after our program your program

00:19:10 ◼   ► and I'm gonna go get fucking fun we have

00:19:12 ◼   ► a pretty good not too annoying wine and

00:19:16 ◼   ► liquor store that I that has stuff like

00:19:18 ◼   ► a bet they got this El Dorado you can

00:19:19 ◼   ► make this at home in my name is a fool's

00:19:21 ◼   ► errand I what you have a grape juice

00:19:23 ◼   ► about the grape juices the heart yeah

00:19:24 ◼   ► because he's got this fancy extractor

00:19:26 ◼   ► behind there it sits down but Marco has

00:19:29 ◼   ► you don't really like that many as I ps3

00:19:32 ◼   ► and rights to that he doesn't like if

00:19:33 ◼   ► Marco has a juice extractor he's got the

00:19:35 ◼   ► one that that Lee has a top Singh it's

00:19:37 ◼   ► like you know it looks like it works

00:19:39 ◼   ► pretty fast in stainless steel channel

00:19:41 ◼   ► and i found i fell to the world

00:19:43 ◼   ► difficult to clean it looks like it's

00:19:45 ◼   ► easy to clean so that if me and you were

00:19:48 ◼   ► both bartending there and I'm making one

00:19:50 ◼   ► with the grape and you're waiting for me

00:19:52 ◼   ► because you've got to make a one with

00:19:53 ◼   ► that oranges next that it's easy to

00:19:56 ◼   ► clean

00:19:57 ◼   ► you know it just looks like the the best

00:19:59 ◼   ► juice extractor so I don't know but

00:20:02 ◼   ► apparently people have said that you can

00:20:04 ◼   ► just muddle the grapes in in a mixing

00:20:07 ◼   ► thing I mean it's probably not quite as

00:20:09 ◼   ► good but i'm sure you get pretty close

00:20:11 ◼   ► to you know pretty close

00:20:14 ◼   ► I'm going to measure this one that

00:20:15 ◼   ► sounds fantastic ah but I like i said

00:20:18 ◼   ► this thing ever i I've had some good rum

00:20:21 ◼   ► drinks over the years you know that I've

00:20:23 ◼   ► enjoyed it you know like at the disney

00:20:25 ◼   ► Holly what's at the Polynesian then

00:20:28 ◼   ► we're I'm sure you put still there the

00:20:30 ◼   ► pollination still there yeah you know

00:20:31 ◼   ► you're gonna make a run drink and pour

00:20:33 ◼   ► it into a carved out pineapple or

00:20:34 ◼   ► something like that but that's what I

00:20:35 ◼   ► associate with rum drinks you don't

00:20:37 ◼   ► think great

00:20:37 ◼   ► ya know it's just crazy it's the

00:20:39 ◼   ► craziest combination and it's it's just

00:20:41 ◼   ► the best string it's it is you know me i

00:20:44 ◼   ► do i love the Bourbon i love the

00:20:45 ◼   ► martinis I'm telling you though if I

00:20:47 ◼   ► found out on a desert island that the

00:20:49 ◼   ► only booze I could have the rest of my

00:20:50 ◼   ► life for Henry box Brown I'd be I'd be

00:20:52 ◼   ► fine i might try well i think that you

00:20:54 ◼   ► know of the numerous things I like to

00:20:56 ◼   ► think that we have in common I think our

00:20:57 ◼   ► liquor preferences are pretty close

00:21:00 ◼   ► well and also scott simpson he just

00:21:02 ◼   ► drinks a lot more well it's not it's not

00:21:05 ◼   ► a problem he's got another configures

00:21:06 ◼   ► the other thing i love about the Henry

00:21:07 ◼   ► box Brown when telling people trying to

00:21:09 ◼   ► explain my love of Hopsin is that you

00:21:12 ◼   ► get in there and you're Luke you're

00:21:13 ◼   ► going to be worried i know i was worried

00:21:15 ◼   ► I was worried my life that I was setting

00:21:16 ◼   ► myself up just like yeah you're right to

00:21:18 ◼   ► be worried because like I'm on board i'm

00:21:20 ◼   ► still on 42 pics square ice cubes

00:21:22 ◼   ► I they're not you know what I think the

00:21:25 ◼   ► I do not joke that this jokey sighs I

00:21:27 ◼   ► sku no no they're you know they're big

00:21:31 ◼   ► cubes but they're not one big cube but

00:21:33 ◼   ► your but there are definitely red flags

00:21:35 ◼   ► it if you went into these places and i'm

00:21:37 ◼   ► not going to talk about a million times

00:21:38 ◼   ► but like these places you go to in san

00:21:40 ◼   ► francisco in la that are like the

00:21:42 ◼   ► Haunted Mansion you know you go in and

00:21:44 ◼   ► it's real silly and it like a Tom Waits

00:21:46 ◼   ► song everybody super serious nono

00:21:48 ◼   ► sulfones load you know or like how you

00:21:51 ◼   ► have to like a type of request on the

00:21:53 ◼   ► typewriter before we let you know

00:21:55 ◼   ► okay I get it you know but this this

00:21:58 ◼   ► sounds like a terrific place and the

00:21:59 ◼   ► thing is the proof is in the pudding if

00:22:01 ◼   ► you can get in there and get a drink and

00:22:03 ◼   ► enjoy it then it's a good place right so

00:22:05 ◼   ► stop saying i think is very reasonable

00:22:07 ◼   ► cellphone rules you are allowed to use

00:22:10 ◼   ► your phone but you are not let it make a

00:22:12 ◼   ► phone call

00:22:13 ◼   ► this is for the enjoyment of your

00:22:14 ◼   ► patrons surrounding you and you are not

00:22:16 ◼   ► allowed to take photographs and this is

00:22:18 ◼   ► for the privacy of all the people who

00:22:20 ◼   ► are in there

00:22:21 ◼   ► no I think that's a reasonable rule that

00:22:23 ◼   ► if you're in there too if you're in

00:22:25 ◼   ► there you can you can rest assured that

00:22:27 ◼   ► your photograph is not going to be taken

00:22:28 ◼   ► so you can well this is probably better

00:22:31 ◼   ► safer for a different program but if you

00:22:33 ◼   ► can just capture this i think at some

00:22:35 ◼   ► point you and I should take our big

00:22:36 ◼   ► podcast money and come up with a place

00:22:39 ◼   ► that will have yes be awesome drinks but

00:22:41 ◼   ► a will have the most exhaustive and

00:22:44 ◼   ► inscrutable set of rules in a place has

00:22:47 ◼   ► ever had and it's extremely difficult to

00:22:49 ◼   ► find maybe it's got three doors and

00:22:50 ◼   ► sometimes they're locked but I think I

00:22:52 ◼   ► don't get all your texts today but i

00:22:54 ◼   ► think we could make a lot of dell in

00:22:56 ◼   ► either of our cities by having a place

00:22:58 ◼   ► that's extremely different difficult to

00:22:59 ◼   ► understand maybe any which you might be

00:23:01 ◼   ► thrown out at any point for reasons it

00:23:02 ◼   ► would be a lot like like a mouse had a

00:23:04 ◼   ► bar want to be stuff happening that you

00:23:06 ◼   ► just would be very very hard to

00:23:07 ◼   ► understand maybe it's open in both

00:23:09 ◼   ► cities but it's technically an

00:23:12 ◼   ► alternative technically one

00:23:14 ◼   ► establishment so it's never over on the

00:23:16 ◼   ► same day we found a loophole that allows

00:23:18 ◼   ► us to have one liquor license for the

00:23:20 ◼   ► entire place and maybe it shuts down

00:23:22 ◼   ► maybe you get maybe you know you get two

00:23:24 ◼   ► hours there i get two hours here we

00:23:26 ◼   ► threw everybody out and there's a

00:23:28 ◼   ► different password when you come it's

00:23:29 ◼   ► always going places

00:23:30 ◼   ► the schedule is always different we

00:23:32 ◼   ► think it's written man it just says I

00:23:35 ◼   ► give you just show up on friday night at

00:23:37 ◼   ► whatever Street in San Francisco it says

00:23:39 ◼   ► we're sorry we're open to Philadelphia

00:23:40 ◼   ► right maybe get to solve a Sudoku to get

00:23:43 ◼   ► it

00:23:44 ◼   ► I don't know but I mean you want to keep

00:23:46 ◼   ► it you want to keep it i think these uh

00:23:48 ◼   ► look at people go to these places they

00:23:50 ◼   ► really enjoy that level of theatricality

00:23:53 ◼   ► else can ask you one more question and

00:23:56 ◼   ► then I have a feeling of the answer if

00:23:58 ◼   ► you tried eagle rare

00:24:03 ◼   ► I was going to say no doubt i think he

00:24:05 ◼   ► probably won't remember i may not

00:24:07 ◼   ► remember no it's ringing about the eagle

00:24:08 ◼   ► rare career is one of those ones where

00:24:11 ◼   ► there are definitely click that they

00:24:14 ◼   ► have an eagle rare gonna get this right

00:24:16 ◼   ► i think their standard one I want to say

00:24:18 ◼   ► is is 10 years and its really really

00:24:21 ◼   ► good and then they have another 1i want

00:24:24 ◼   ► to get this right for posterity there's

00:24:26 ◼   ► another one that is more costly and

00:24:28 ◼   ► longer aged and it's it's just one of

00:24:32 ◼   ► the best things I've ever had in my life

00:24:34 ◼   ► I bad and I don't know where I'm looking

00:24:36 ◼   ► at the bottle now and now that i see

00:24:38 ◼   ► there's only one of those ones that you

00:24:39 ◼   ► want to probably just enjoy you know

00:24:41 ◼   ► with a little little bit of rocks

00:24:43 ◼   ► I mean it's it or or not it's really

00:24:46 ◼   ► good

00:24:46 ◼   ► yeah i have not had do not have it in

00:24:48 ◼   ► the house I've never purchase it but i

00:24:50 ◼   ► know that i've had this somewhere can't

00:24:52 ◼   ► remember where though one night we had

00:24:55 ◼   ► to record you look nice today so I

00:24:56 ◼   ► needed something to drink and I grabbed

00:24:58 ◼   ► the first thing that we had at home had

00:25:00 ◼   ► a bottle of which is the seagull rare

00:25:03 ◼   ► that the fancy 117 I see this they have

00:25:05 ◼   ► David end there's a standard and then

00:25:07 ◼   ► they have a 17 when I would have seen

00:25:09 ◼   ► that was a pretty hot

00:25:11 ◼   ► see ya there's always another level

00:25:12 ◼   ► right so you get deeper and deeper into

00:25:14 ◼   ► that place over parts of the Caribbean

00:25:16 ◼   ► or whatever you get fancier room but you

00:25:20 ◼   ► know is a silly story but I I grabbed it

00:25:22 ◼   ► and brought it to work I thought hey

00:25:23 ◼   ► this is cool because it had been a gift

00:25:25 ◼   ► that actually mean I had given to mad

00:25:27 ◼   ► for like doing a little favor for her

00:25:28 ◼   ► and she said only thing is i can get a

00:25:30 ◼   ► bottle something I'm i crack it and

00:25:32 ◼   ► brought it to work and started started

00:25:35 ◼   ► making a variation on this is no this is

00:25:37 ◼   ► blasphemy i know but i guess its bourbon

00:25:41 ◼   ► right it's bourbon with some lime and I

00:25:43 ◼   ► covered up with some muscle streams very

00:25:45 ◼   ► similar to the to the tequila drink and

00:25:48 ◼   ► I got about three quarters of the way

00:25:49 ◼   ► into this and i happen to mention

00:25:52 ◼   ► Simpson that I was drinking that he said

00:25:53 ◼   ► he was drinking some to its own

00:25:55 ◼   ► traditional that's fifty dollars but I

00:25:59 ◼   ► was like I I was so embarrassed but

00:26:01 ◼   ► luckily I was so intoxicated that it

00:26:03 ◼   ► didn't stick with me so that I got

00:26:04 ◼   ► another one to replace it for her

00:26:06 ◼   ► because I'm a gentleman and then I drank

00:26:08 ◼   ► that one too but if you can get that

00:26:10 ◼   ► stuff you don't know if you wanna get a

00:26:11 ◼   ► pop singer but if you don't have

00:26:12 ◼   ► something something wrong with your lady

00:26:13 ◼   ► after-hours it's it's it's real good now

00:26:16 ◼   ► and

00:26:16 ◼   ► no why I'm familiar with its from its

00:26:20 ◼   ► from the Buffalo Trace people

00:26:22 ◼   ► ok number would remember we didn't

00:26:24 ◼   ► newzealand to the mouth of the trickiest

00:26:26 ◼   ► oh my god is that we ran the amount of

00:26:28 ◼   ► liquor you know zealand they don't did

00:26:31 ◼   ► you know they don't know what the Wi-Fi

00:26:32 ◼   ► there they get they get like Hayes modem

00:26:34 ◼   ► style Wi-Fi for four hundred dollars a

00:26:36 ◼   ► day right you want to buy you want to

00:26:39 ◼   ► buy a coffee it takes 35 minutes and

00:26:41 ◼   ► costs one of the healing money is it in

00:26:44 ◼   ► they do not have a lot of bourbon as we

00:26:47 ◼   ► discover well it did that was

00:26:48 ◼   ► embarrassed this story is that we never

00:26:51 ◼   ► there for web stock 221 guys they work

00:26:53 ◼   ► with the bartender's you ever used it so

00:26:58 ◼   ► love you so we're at i forget the name

00:27:00 ◼   ► of what's the name of the hook the hip

00:27:02 ◼   ► hippopotamus identical to the

00:27:03 ◼   ► hippocampus yet papa bottomless bar at

00:27:06 ◼   ► the at the hotel where everybody who was

00:27:08 ◼   ► a speaker web stock was and we were all

00:27:10 ◼   ► there on the first day we're all deeply

00:27:14 ◼   ► deeply jet lag because she notes it's

00:27:18 ◼   ► like the you know couldn't be more

00:27:19 ◼   ► jetlite is a 15-hour flight for I mean

00:27:22 ◼   ► you had you had Philadelphia San

00:27:24 ◼   ► Francisco and probably flew together but

00:27:26 ◼   ► you have Philadelphia San Francisco and

00:27:28 ◼   ► San Francisco and New Zealand how long

00:27:29 ◼   ► was that it had to have been 20 hours

00:27:31 ◼   ► yeah but we had like a weird I God for

00:27:34 ◼   ► for like five hour layover you get a

00:27:36 ◼   ► hotel and we got a hotel room and fell

00:27:37 ◼   ► asleep for three hours which was the

00:27:38 ◼   ► smartest thing that was like the best

00:27:40 ◼   ► hundred and fifty bucks I ever spent was

00:27:42 ◼   ► the hundred and fifty bucks to get a

00:27:44 ◼   ► hotel room for two hours and 43 hours

00:27:47 ◼   ► and and sleep a little bit between the

00:27:49 ◼   ► flights

00:27:49 ◼   ► well worth it but anyway we get there

00:27:52 ◼   ► and and we get up to the hotel bar and

00:27:55 ◼   ► it's afternoon it was I don't like 4-430

00:27:57 ◼   ► and everybody's sort of meeting each

00:27:59 ◼   ► other and find out that the hotel bar

00:28:01 ◼   ► and like every month they had a special

00:28:03 ◼   ► cocktail and this month's special

00:28:05 ◼   ► cocktail was the Bourbon old-fashioned

00:28:07 ◼   ► and we were like what how where the

00:28:10 ◼   ► we've seemed to book the right hotel and

00:28:13 ◼   ► like three days later this bartender who

00:28:16 ◼   ► is awesome he had this real theater

00:28:18 ◼   ► member the way he Houston would when he

00:28:21 ◼   ► would take the key is almost like a cast

00:28:22 ◼   ► member yeah i mean he was he was very

00:28:24 ◼   ► energetic and very fun and in like not

00:28:27 ◼   ► teasing but you know any remember he was

00:28:29 ◼   ► just he was really can get

00:28:30 ◼   ► age then it was fun to give him

00:28:31 ◼   ► something like seventeen dollars per

00:28:33 ◼   ► train ride was really it was a fun he

00:28:34 ◼   ► wasn't costly it's pretty clueless happy

00:28:37 ◼   ► and you know it was like a free I you

00:28:39 ◼   ► know it's one of those things where

00:28:39 ◼   ► their dollars or whatever they call the

00:28:41 ◼   ► things are so close to ours but not

00:28:43 ◼   ► quite that it it threw me off where you

00:28:45 ◼   ► yes like 1.1 birds to a box right it

00:28:48 ◼   ► would be like you know an $18 drink and

00:28:50 ◼   ► I think one way to second with the

00:28:52 ◼   ► conversion does that mean it really jump

00:28:54 ◼   ► into 20 some dollars or does that mean

00:28:56 ◼   ► I'm anything but i do that with time and

00:28:59 ◼   ► money i calculate the opposite with that

00:29:02 ◼   ► I you know and they had options that you

00:29:04 ◼   ► can make it with this if you want to

00:29:05 ◼   ► there's like a whole page like the in

00:29:07 ◼   ► the cocktail menu one whole page was

00:29:09 ◼   ► specifically for the old-fashioned and

00:29:11 ◼   ► they had all these other options you

00:29:12 ◼   ► could do but Houston had a real nice way

00:29:14 ◼   ► of taking a grapefruit peel that was

00:29:17 ◼   ► what he was putting him and then he

00:29:18 ◼   ► would he would twist it and light a

00:29:20 ◼   ► match and sort of a you know explode the

00:29:24 ◼   ► understand what that is in a citrus than

00:29:28 ◼   ► that is not a Ryan but the the run you

00:29:31 ◼   ► know this list the twist thing yeah and

00:29:32 ◼   ► somehow if you do it at the referee time

00:29:34 ◼   ► it right when you squeeze it and light a

00:29:36 ◼   ► match you can make it a flame bursts out

00:29:38 ◼   ► and it's sort of you know put like a

00:29:40 ◼   ► smoky hint to the rind is he as he

00:29:43 ◼   ► garnishes your drink and anyway with

00:29:45 ◼   ► into his it was a welcome very sorry but

00:29:48 ◼   ► we're all out of Buffalo Trace bourbon

00:29:50 ◼   ► and then I was like I will outtake and

00:29:53 ◼   ► it is like well in fact we're all out of

00:29:55 ◼   ► bourbon

00:29:56 ◼   ► haha head and he was so apologize but

00:30:00 ◼   ► this is like a read the thing is that

00:30:02 ◼   ► you have to understand that this is you

00:30:03 ◼   ► know this is a real bar

00:30:05 ◼   ► this isn't like something that's been

00:30:06 ◼   ► slapped onto a marian wright hot wings

00:30:09 ◼   ► this is like I'm not a nice bar with a

00:30:11 ◼   ► nice restaurant at night if you check up

00:30:13 ◼   ► on the fourth floor had a real nice view

00:30:15 ◼   ► I think it wasn't the kind of place that

00:30:16 ◼   ► goes oh we forgot to order bourbon

00:30:18 ◼   ► something it was bourbon modest-sized it

00:30:20 ◼   ► was a seismic event in the Bourbon world

00:30:23 ◼   ► of this pit was bourbon month and i

00:30:25 ◼   ► believe that what we ended up doing

00:30:28 ◼   ► I think that was the urban but i think

00:30:30 ◼   ► they still had jack daniels and so we

00:30:32 ◼   ► ended up letting to make this old

00:30:34 ◼   ► fashioned out of jack daniel's which is

00:30:35 ◼   ► sort of

00:30:36 ◼   ► you know at that poor form but and then

00:30:40 ◼   ► he was very apologetic about it but it

00:30:43 ◼   ► was amazing will try that eagle rare and

00:30:45 ◼   ► I've already made a list you got me to

00:30:46 ◼   ► do this stop here and I'm gonna I'm

00:30:48 ◼   ► gonna get the the mayor are around from

00:30:52 ◼   ► guy Jana called fifteen-year-old

00:30:54 ◼   ► eldorado okay that sounds good and you

00:30:58 ◼   ► want red grape something and red car

00:31:00 ◼   ► anyway though it bottom line though is

00:31:01 ◼   ► that here's the thing you think the

00:31:02 ◼   ► place is really fussy and here's the

00:31:03 ◼   ► thing Amy and I have this end there's a

00:31:05 ◼   ► whole bunch of other places in town in

00:31:06 ◼   ► philly that are like this i know i've

00:31:08 ◼   ► been to the department and branch out in

00:31:10 ◼   ► San Francisco and a lot of these

00:31:13 ◼   ► cocktail page number one they dress the

00:31:15 ◼   ► bartender's up old-timey stop they don't

00:31:16 ◼   ► do that Hopsin everybody just wears a

00:31:18 ◼   ► white shirt and black tie that's it

00:31:19 ◼   ► there's no old-timey this to it you look

00:31:21 ◼   ► it's more like a reservoir dogs look

00:31:23 ◼   ► without the jacket every you know you

00:31:24 ◼   ► look you know everybody looks the same

00:31:25 ◼   ► you can tell who works here but you're

00:31:26 ◼   ► not

00:31:27 ◼   ► there's no faking old-timey nobody has a

00:31:28 ◼   ► mustache but here's the thing all the

00:31:32 ◼   ► drinks a lot of these craft cocktail

00:31:34 ◼   ► places are sound really really good

00:31:36 ◼   ► until you get to the last thing and then

00:31:38 ◼   ► it's like why would you put that a drink

00:31:40 ◼   ► and then it's I think you're supposed to

00:31:42 ◼   ► be like the fact that you can get it

00:31:45 ◼   ► down makes you better than other people

00:31:46 ◼   ► because there's you know you know a

00:31:49 ◼   ► little bit of a extracted dog turd in

00:31:52 ◼   ► there exactly like we know where we're

00:31:54 ◼   ► know where no Albert when a soul brother

00:31:56 ◼   ► when it comes to drinks but but but just

00:31:58 ◼   ► from my you know semi-pro drinking I I

00:32:03 ◼   ► it does strike me that sometimes it is a

00:32:05 ◼   ► lot like a place that wants to be a

00:32:07 ◼   ► fancy food place now this works you're

00:32:10 ◼   ► in french laundry here on your senses

00:32:12 ◼   ► yeah I go there every time for real no

00:32:14 ◼   ► oh well French Laundry found it is

00:32:18 ◼   ► stable at the corn is that the Thomas

00:32:21 ◼   ► Thomas Keller price that's was like the

00:32:22 ◼   ► best restaurant in America two years and

00:32:24 ◼   ► around it's it's it's an event to go

00:32:25 ◼   ► arguably maybe possibly you could argue

00:32:29 ◼   ► the best restaurant or remember when

00:32:30 ◼   ► jason and meg likes saved other change

00:32:33 ◼   ► for a year to go there i mean it's

00:32:35 ◼   ► really but it's really amazing and you

00:32:36 ◼   ► go in there and its first bought this

00:32:38 ◼   ► isn't even want to talk about itunes but

00:32:40 ◼   ► it was a it is completely event dining

00:32:43 ◼   ► and they do something that almost nobody

00:32:44 ◼   ► else does well which is cute

00:32:46 ◼   ► they do cute really well not cute you

00:32:48 ◼   ► know too clever by half

00:32:50 ◼   ► they pull it off here let me bring you

00:32:52 ◼   ► these this p naught and gel II said

00:32:56 ◼   ► which and it's all just like silly puns

00:32:58 ◼   ► on something that but you know but the

00:33:00 ◼   ► peanuts are made out of you know artists

00:33:02 ◼   ► a lamb or something anyway and but it

00:33:04 ◼   ► works but it strikes me that a lot of

00:33:05 ◼   ► these places trying to do that

00:33:06 ◼   ► especially in a tourist area they can

00:33:08 ◼   ► make a fancy if they would you call it

00:33:10 ◼   ► desiccated doctor like you had something

00:33:11 ◼   ► to it that is like the wrong ingredient

00:33:13 ◼   ► all that sounds fancy we've taken

00:33:15 ◼   ► something really mundane like you know

00:33:17 ◼   ► like a lamb shank got one of the worst

00:33:20 ◼   ► lamb shanks I ever had was at

00:33:21 ◼   ► Disneyworld you get a lamb shank which

00:33:23 ◼   ► is the most disappointing part of a lamb

00:33:25 ◼   ► apart from maybe the horns and the song

00:33:26 ◼   ► it's even like no like the butcher's

00:33:28 ◼   ► trying to warn you with the word shank

00:33:29 ◼   ► shank shank screams right let me know

00:33:33 ◼   ► it's anyway I want the railing but you

00:33:35 ◼   ► know I but i agree with you and if you

00:33:37 ◼   ► in there are places this kind of soup

00:33:39 ◼   ► nazi sorts of places where once you know

00:33:40 ◼   ► how to go there it may become it becomes

00:33:45 ◼   ► even like a point of pride like you can

00:33:46 ◼   ► go there and you know that it's casual

00:33:48 ◼   ► like you don't mean like now you're not

00:33:50 ◼   ► going to be scrutinized as much because

00:33:53 ◼   ► you're a regular right you know you know

00:33:55 ◼   ► how it goes you know you're not gonna

00:33:56 ◼   ► show up in teva's right well if the

00:33:59 ◼   ► thing is is that to me and it goes with

00:34:01 ◼   ► everything whether its food whether it's

00:34:03 ◼   ► drinks whether it's picking a font or

00:34:04 ◼   ► something like that sometimes the best

00:34:06 ◼   ► thing to do is is not going to win you

00:34:08 ◼   ► any accolades for being a genius or

00:34:10 ◼   ► being clever but it's just the right

00:34:12 ◼   ► thing to do and you should be humble

00:34:14 ◼   ► enough to just do it sometimes so for

00:34:16 ◼   ► example here's a drink where the right

00:34:17 ◼   ► thing to do is just it's just grape

00:34:19 ◼   ► juice and rum and it's shaken and it's

00:34:22 ◼   ► cold and it's yeah good and that's it

00:34:24 ◼   ► and there's no right this there's no you

00:34:27 ◼   ► know an elderberry flower topped on it

00:34:29 ◼   ► are you know what yeah it's like that

00:34:31 ◼   ► that movie I didn't finish watching

00:34:33 ◼   ► about the 10 dreams of sushi or whatever

00:34:36 ◼   ► about the guy that makes the best sushi

00:34:38 ◼   ► in the world or whatever and you know I

00:34:40 ◼   ► thought it was it could have been on one

00:34:41 ◼   ► in our documentary i think but it was

00:34:43 ◼   ► still good still interesting because all

00:34:44 ◼   ► this guy does douchey but what is the

00:34:46 ◼   ► what he puts what he and his family and

00:34:48 ◼   ► the people who work at this tense eat

00:34:50 ◼   ► sushi bar put into it is astonishing

00:34:53 ◼   ► I mean you know it but it is still he's

00:34:55 ◼   ► I say he's buying the same tune that's

00:34:57 ◼   ► not entirely accurate but everything he

00:34:59 ◼   ► does is comes back to our old thing

00:35:01 ◼   ► about you know

00:35:02 ◼   ► taste you know in class and

00:35:04 ◼   ► decision-making and what you don't do

00:35:06 ◼   ► and he has chosen to do this thing for

00:35:08 ◼   ► whatever 50 years and he does it better

00:35:11 ◼   ► than anybody and people pay three

00:35:12 ◼   ► hundred dollars for a 15 minute meal at

00:35:14 ◼   ► this place it's like a 10-course sushi

00:35:16 ◼   ► meal in 15 minutes but everybody who

00:35:18 ◼   ► goes there are people going over and

00:35:19 ◼   ► over people from Japan who know sushi

00:35:22 ◼   ► food critics they're like this is no

00:35:24 ◼   ► other me like this in the world but it's

00:35:25 ◼   ► he's just making sushi I could go here

00:35:27 ◼   ► and insult and my neighborhoods obsolete

00:35:29 ◼   ► scott simpson had Tony it's all Chinese

00:35:31 ◼   ► people in my neighborhood that work at

00:35:32 ◼   ► the at this issue place but it's some

00:35:34 ◼   ► places are good some places are better

00:35:36 ◼   ► and then first reasons you can explain

00:35:38 ◼   ► sometimes as with the mythical man month

00:35:40 ◼   ► sometimes it's just 10 times better and

00:35:43 ◼   ► it's definitely true width font choices

00:35:44 ◼   ► you get the same helvetica noid to 15

00:35:47 ◼   ► people and you're gonna have extremely

00:35:48 ◼   ► different results right you know it's

00:35:50 ◼   ► it's just weird there's just a kind of

00:35:52 ◼   ► like the going to a butcher shop where

00:35:54 ◼   ► they know how to cut it up and choose

00:35:56 ◼   ► it's it's a completely different

00:35:57 ◼   ► experience and yeah shell which is a

00:36:00 ◼   ► good way to get into itunes exactly i

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00:40:28 ◼   ► because I I unfortunately for you I'm a

00:40:31 ◼   ► copious notes and prepping for the yeah

00:40:32 ◼   ► I don't be a common stock I don't

00:40:34 ◼   ► dislike it but it's I'm still you know

00:40:36 ◼   ► it's been a day right we've had for a

00:40:38 ◼   ► day and as as messed up in so many ways

00:40:41 ◼   ► as itunes has been it's the devil you

00:40:43 ◼   ► know and so now I'm other I'd like to

00:40:47 ◼   ► hear you it's your show i like to hear

00:40:48 ◼   ► you talk about it because you seem to

00:40:50 ◼   ► like it a lot and i wanna as usual with

00:40:54 ◼   ► new Apple things it seems like you are

00:40:56 ◼   ► trying to run pretty stock settings and

00:40:59 ◼   ► give the default state of state of that

00:41:01 ◼   ► kind of a chance is that correct

00:41:03 ◼   ► definitely in terms of like how things

00:41:05 ◼   ► to display because i wasn't my first

00:41:06 ◼   ► thing just was that I was very

00:41:08 ◼   ► disorienting to me to open up I never

00:41:10 ◼   ► look at things in either you know cover

00:41:14 ◼   ► flow or album mode it's just not how I

00:41:17 ◼   ► think about the stuff I've got it's nice

00:41:18 ◼   ► to have but it was so hard for me to

00:41:21 ◼   ► figure out what I had to change to to

00:41:23 ◼   ► make it where I could find things but I

00:41:25 ◼   ► got a couple thoughts on the boat tell

00:41:26 ◼   ► me what you think I I you know I never

00:41:31 ◼   ► used album view before either but i

00:41:33 ◼   ► think i am now although i'd still think

00:41:35 ◼   ► as the day is going on i do find know

00:41:38 ◼   ► that that sometimes what I want

00:41:39 ◼   ► and now i'm in the mood for the rolling

00:41:42 ◼   ► stones i got a whole bunch of stones

00:41:44 ◼   ► albums but it doesn't seem to know that

00:41:46 ◼   ► like I got what I want then is to click

00:41:49 ◼   ► go to artists and then there's a list

00:41:52 ◼   ► artist click the Rolling Stone and then

00:41:54 ◼   ► have the album view in there but it

00:41:56 ◼   ► doesn't seem like you can get that you

00:41:58 ◼   ► get like a like it's album but it's more

00:42:01 ◼   ► like a listview by album rather than

00:42:03 ◼   ► this new magic is just the album's click

00:42:06 ◼   ► it and you get that nice expanded view

00:42:08 ◼   ► underneath huh yeah so I'm not a hundred

00:42:13 ◼   ► percent sure that the new stuff has been

00:42:15 ◼   ► thoroughly baked conceptually yeah I

00:42:21 ◼   ► mean there's one going to farm I listed

00:42:24 ◼   ► the to start with this but yeah one of

00:42:26 ◼   ► the things that I find little baffling

00:42:28 ◼   ► in addition to how to get to what is

00:42:30 ◼   ► called listview is he seemed to have

00:42:31 ◼   ► different options

00:42:33 ◼   ► what kind of one metal thing just a

00:42:35 ◼   ► suggestion if you're listening to this

00:42:37 ◼   ► and you can i would i would suggest

00:42:39 ◼   ► opening up a copy of itunes 11 on your

00:42:42 ◼   ► mac and maybe like turn down the slider

00:42:47 ◼   ► on your volume really low if you want to

00:42:49 ◼   ► play along with this because there's

00:42:50 ◼   ► some things that are going to be easier

00:42:51 ◼   ► to explain into you know what I mean

00:42:53 ◼   ► like do this with me kind of stuff yeah

00:42:55 ◼   ► it's i was like i said is a little

00:42:58 ◼   ► bewildered when it came up in that album

00:43:00 ◼   ► view because and that my first thought

00:43:02 ◼   ► was okay

00:43:03 ◼   ► usually I just click over here in that

00:43:05 ◼   ► little tabbed thing where you would say

00:43:09 ◼   ► do I want to see this by which of these

00:43:10 ◼   ► four methods and always pick the

00:43:12 ◼   ► simplest list way probably because I'm a

00:43:15 ◼   ► real weirdo i want two things that our

00:43:16 ◼   ► frequently sort by his date added which

00:43:19 ◼   ► I had trouble have had have had trouble

00:43:22 ◼   ► getting the music tab to remember is

00:43:24 ◼   ► that I want my default view to almost

00:43:26 ◼   ► always be date added you know it seems

00:43:28 ◼   ► weird but that's you know i don't i

00:43:30 ◼   ► don't think this in the same way that I

00:43:32 ◼   ► think of all typical library where I

00:43:34 ◼   ► needed to be organized by dewey decimal

00:43:38 ◼   ► you know or library of congress or

00:43:42 ◼   ► alphabetical just cuz that's not how I

00:43:43 ◼   ► think about the music and so anyway that

00:43:46 ◼   ► that is so my first thought was are of

00:43:48 ◼   ► course panic as with you know like you

00:43:51 ◼   ► cover one time going you ended up being

00:43:52 ◼   ► absolutely right

00:43:53 ◼   ► out when the changes golden scroll

00:43:55 ◼   ► direction of course you know i mean they

00:43:57 ◼   ► went in with a lion and made it the

00:43:58 ◼   ► other way but now it totally i went back

00:44:01 ◼   ► to the way it's supposed to be now and i

00:44:03 ◼   ► love it makes sense it makes sense

00:44:05 ◼   ► across devices so you know the typical

00:44:07 ◼   ► thing its you're better off to go with

00:44:09 ◼   ► apples way because that's the way Apple

00:44:11 ◼   ► is going and so try their way and i

00:44:14 ◼   ► liked it ok there's a lot of mystery

00:44:17 ◼   ► meat navigation and buttons that I

00:44:19 ◼   ► thought were kind of confusing but I

00:44:21 ◼   ► think I'm getting it

00:44:23 ◼   ► there's one thing I still am confused by

00:44:26 ◼   ► you to get about this like how do you

00:44:27 ◼   ► get to column view column browser it's

00:44:30 ◼   ► it's not clear to me like it will be a

00:44:32 ◼   ► couple days probably like when I'm

00:44:35 ◼   ► eligible to be in column view i guess

00:44:38 ◼   ► probably really simple they click songs

00:44:40 ◼   ► you click songs but this is other stuff

00:44:44 ◼   ► for like sometimes it seems like it

00:44:47 ◼   ► changes the way that it presents tufte

00:44:49 ◼   ► based on like if you've done a obviously

00:44:51 ◼   ► i think the search thing is pretty great

00:44:52 ◼   ► when it shows you like what you hear

00:44:54 ◼   ► your stuff live in the search but there

00:44:56 ◼   ► are some things like the movies view was

00:44:58 ◼   ► kind of bewildering to me

00:45:00 ◼   ► uh I don't see I have enough time to say

00:45:03 ◼   ► all this correctly but there were

00:45:05 ◼   ► several things about it that I initially

00:45:06 ◼   ► found confusing that I'm now figuring

00:45:08 ◼   ► out and i'm in a way I almost wish i

00:45:10 ◼   ► could reset it to how it shipped just

00:45:13 ◼   ► just to try it again but yeah there's

00:45:16 ◼   ► some stuff i really like about it a lot

00:45:18 ◼   ► of things like I find really bewildering

00:45:19 ◼   ► the number one thing now this might have

00:45:23 ◼   ► been in there before i'm almost positive

00:45:25 ◼   ► it wasn't because I would try it once a

00:45:26 ◼   ► week and it didn't work did it open

00:45:27 ◼   ► right now

00:45:28 ◼   ► yeah hit command to command three and

00:45:35 ◼   ► four

00:45:35 ◼   ► what's that doing i'm going to know what

00:45:37 ◼   ► I'm doing here looking side rail over

00:45:38 ◼   ► there you have sat on the side rail

00:45:40 ◼   ► anymore house it jumps between music

00:45:43 ◼   ► movies TV I guess I've wanted of which

00:45:46 ◼   ► I've wanted forever i got that is easier

00:45:48 ◼   ► than that and and that's may seem like a

00:45:50 ◼   ► small thing but I so what I'm doing is

00:45:51 ◼   ► when hit command 12 sort of like yeah it

00:45:54 ◼   ► takes you to the section of your library

00:45:56 ◼   ► for music movies TV shows which I

00:45:58 ◼   ► actually found really useful mainly

00:45:59 ◼   ► because I hop between music and podcasts

00:46:01 ◼   ► a lot you know I movies and TV shows i

00:46:04 ◼   ► tend to watch

00:46:06 ◼   ► I guess for somewhat obvious reasons i

00:46:07 ◼   ► tend to watch on an iOS device for Apple

00:46:09 ◼   ► TV but for the idea of stuff I'm jumping

00:46:11 ◼   ► around a lot

00:46:12 ◼   ► I mean my here's my real quick check on

00:46:14 ◼   ► this is that i will probably be using

00:46:16 ◼   ► search library a lot more is my first

00:46:18 ◼   ► thought because i think it it's pretty

00:46:21 ◼   ► good and is forgetting to the music i

00:46:23 ◼   ► want fast i have not found a faster way

00:46:25 ◼   ► to get there then search library and it

00:46:28 ◼   ► works better

00:46:29 ◼   ► it does i I think don't you think it

00:46:31 ◼   ► works a lot better than it used to

00:46:32 ◼   ► absolutely it's got its got a couple

00:46:34 ◼   ► weird it's got like 10 bug that drives

00:46:37 ◼   ► me a little bit nuts but it's it's very

00:46:40 ◼   ► fast and it gets me where I where I want

00:46:42 ◼   ► to be I also like the way that in the

00:46:44 ◼   ► search results that it includes album

00:46:48 ◼   ► art wherever it can yes so was i I do I

00:46:55 ◼   ► had it it just works better for me it's

00:46:57 ◼   ► like the way that like I like the way

00:46:59 ◼   ► that Safari uses five icons right there

00:47:02 ◼   ► in the URL bar because it's it helps me

00:47:04 ◼   ► know like on certain websites you know

00:47:07 ◼   ► oh I know where I am you know absolutely

00:47:10 ◼   ► and I mean I think as a branding thing

00:47:12 ◼   ► like I see that that's the guy i know

00:47:15 ◼   ► that album so here it is

00:47:17 ◼   ► what's weird about that is it seems like

00:47:19 ◼   ► a feature like that would mean a lot

00:47:21 ◼   ► more to people of our generation because

00:47:23 ◼   ► we're more accustomed to flipping

00:47:25 ◼   ► through associating yes that's our cds

00:47:29 ◼   ► and oh yeah this is houses of the holy

00:47:30 ◼   ► yeah like or whatever i bet there aren't

00:47:32 ◼   ► that many people aren't as many people

00:47:34 ◼   ► today especially because people download

00:47:36 ◼   ► stuff and it may not have correct album

00:47:38 ◼   ► art I mean I'm constantly saying find

00:47:39 ◼   ► the album art and can't find it now I me

00:47:41 ◼   ► too i do have to buy it and actually

00:47:44 ◼   ► have a tip for that but I mean my kids

00:47:46 ◼   ► wear something that's a little weird

00:47:47 ◼   ► I'm gonna try something here first of

00:47:49 ◼   ► all I car you big on keyboard navigation

00:47:52 ◼   ► when you're typing text key like the

00:47:55 ◼   ► command shift in the option shift and

00:47:57 ◼   ► all that ya threw text you do that a lot

00:47:59 ◼   ► yeah okay so hit command F and type Tom

00:48:04 ◼   ► Petty

00:48:04 ◼   ► ok i'm just guessing stuff i think you

00:48:07 ◼   ► have I don't have any time better

00:48:09 ◼   ► ok for just forty forty three albums

00:48:13 ◼   ► ok so go to go to select and the

00:48:14 ◼   ► torpedoes you know i don't think i have

00:48:17 ◼   ► damaged your penis I know we have

00:48:18 ◼   ► whatever they're on their way over there

00:48:20 ◼   ► on the CD rack and here's the here

00:48:22 ◼   ► here's a real quick version of this that

00:48:23 ◼   ► I don't this is so stupid but this is

00:48:25 ◼   ► the kind of thing that drives me bananas

00:48:26 ◼   ► go ahead and play any song starts

00:48:27 ◼   ► playing any song any song anywhere

00:48:29 ◼   ► alright we're going to do is we're gonna

00:48:33 ◼   ► lie i turn my volume way down on my

00:48:34 ◼   ► itunes alright alright you got you got

00:48:37 ◼   ► song playing yeah okay and now go to

00:48:41 ◼   ► church library and type in weiser ok ok

00:48:47 ◼   ► and then act like you misspelled it and

00:48:49 ◼   ► actually wanted to type something else

00:48:50 ◼   ► now me I hit command shift arrow to

00:48:54 ◼   ► select everything that I've just type

00:48:56 ◼   ► there

00:48:56 ◼   ► that works for me it selects that

00:49:00 ◼   ► selects the type

00:49:01 ◼   ► ok do without the shifts just go to the

00:49:03 ◼   ► beginning I what did that do next is the

00:49:08 ◼   ► IC yeah without the shift it

00:49:11 ◼   ► ok that's it then what it just did for

00:49:13 ◼   ► me was it started that song that's

00:49:15 ◼   ► playing again yeah because it's totally

00:49:17 ◼   ► natural behavior in itunes to hit

00:49:19 ◼   ► command left and right arrow the next

00:49:23 ◼   ► previous track now that's probably

00:49:24 ◼   ► expected behavior for most people

00:49:26 ◼   ► because who uses that kind of nonsense

00:49:27 ◼   ► but it is a weird thing like talking

00:49:30 ◼   ► like some petty itunes to me has always

00:49:32 ◼   ► felt like an app that works ok like an

00:49:36 ◼   ► iCloud like iCloud like a lot of things

00:49:39 ◼   ► like address book

00:49:40 ◼   ► they're pretty great things for a casual

00:49:42 ◼   ► user to have a moderate amount of data

00:49:45 ◼   ► in it's just that now especially with

00:49:48 ◼   ► itunes match that I have so much stuff

00:49:50 ◼   ► in here and I'm you know I find myself

00:49:53 ◼   ► on the one hand like being appreciative

00:49:55 ◼   ► of this looking prettier and stuff but

00:49:57 ◼   ► right now it doesn't feel there's still

00:49:59 ◼   ► stuff about that makes me feel like it's

00:50:01 ◼   ► not that much faster for for power users

00:50:03 ◼   ► and for people who want to become power

00:50:06 ◼   ► users there's still a lot of opacity

00:50:07 ◼   ► that i would like to see less opaque

00:50:10 ◼   ► personally do you know what I mean

00:50:14 ◼   ► oh yeah i think so are you on right now

00:50:17 ◼   ► are you on a record I'm not be like pack

00:50:20 ◼   ► up the plantation live

00:50:22 ◼   ► ok and NIU that view where you get like

00:50:24 ◼   ► the artist and you get like the kc like

00:50:26 ◼   ► play shuffle arrow all those next to the

00:50:30 ◼   ► name of the artist yes yes okay

00:50:33 ◼   ► something else ever play okay got it

00:50:37 ◼   ► what do you get nothing okay that's over

00:50:40 ◼   ► the area on the right right

00:50:43 ◼   ► nothing but i can click it I mean if i

00:50:45 ◼   ► click it something you do most people do

00:50:47 ◼   ► that do they claim be yeah I like you go

00:50:51 ◼   ► to think that the the thing with the

00:50:53 ◼   ► listview be like the LI view up in the

00:50:55 ◼   ► which is as we all know now

00:50:57 ◼   ► up next like mouse over that likewise

00:50:59 ◼   ► they're not mouse over text for that he

00:51:01 ◼   ► yeah I guess there could be some kind of

00:51:04 ◼   ► you know like if you put you know like a

00:51:05 ◼   ► webpage like if you pause for a little

00:51:07 ◼   ► bit

00:51:08 ◼   ► pause for a little hover something and

00:51:10 ◼   ► now go now and there's no that's my

00:51:11 ◼   ► complaint with that that that mysterious

00:51:13 ◼   ► cloud icon next to the word with the

00:51:17 ◼   ► top-left thing where you pick music

00:51:18 ◼   ► movies TV shows what is that what is

00:51:20 ◼   ► that for this is a horrible i think i

00:51:21 ◼   ► think that means update my icloud yeah

00:51:24 ◼   ► but it clicking it doesn't doing I match

00:51:25 ◼   ► and hovering doesn't show anything yeah

00:51:27 ◼   ► and right now mine is animated I've got

00:51:29 ◼   ► these little diagonal i think that means

00:51:31 ◼   ► it's updating and that means it's

00:51:32 ◼   ► updating your collection yeah but I

00:51:34 ◼   ► don't know but I so I understand that

00:51:36 ◼   ► while it's updating why they would show

00:51:37 ◼   ► me that but when it's not updating and

00:51:39 ◼   ► it's just an empty cloud I really don't

00:51:41 ◼   ► know why they show me that that there's

00:51:43 ◼   ► a cloud there that I can't do anything

00:51:45 ◼   ► with I can't click it I can't control

00:51:47 ◼   ► click it well I need to be pedantic I'll

00:51:49 ◼   ► say again just because it is standard in

00:51:51 ◼   ► every other mac app and web page i mean

00:51:53 ◼   ► do you ever go to preferences in it

00:51:56 ◼   ► this isn't like in almost every mac app

00:51:58 ◼   ► and I think there's a lot of people that

00:51:59 ◼   ► don't know this so it's worth mentioning

00:52:01 ◼   ► if you have somewhere where there are

00:52:02 ◼   ► selections to be made like in

00:52:04 ◼   ► preferences in almost every mac app and

00:52:06 ◼   ► every good mac app if you have a choice

00:52:08 ◼   ► between for radio buttons you can

00:52:10 ◼   ► mouse-over a radiobutton whether it's

00:52:12 ◼   ► selected or not and it will tell you

00:52:13 ◼   ► what happens when you click that right

00:52:15 ◼   ► which i think is kind of cool so to me

00:52:17 ◼   ► if I mouse over the at that cloud like

00:52:19 ◼   ► what what the hell does that mean if I

00:52:20 ◼   ► mouse over that it should say for

00:52:22 ◼   ► example in my case I the white cloud

00:52:24 ◼   ► which a fluffy white cloud which I guess

00:52:26 ◼   ► means everything's cold

00:52:27 ◼   ► setec yeah but like no good last one on

00:52:30 ◼   ► these i hope that go back to like the

00:52:32 ◼   ► view of that plantation record right and

00:52:35 ◼   ► click play the little arrow next to the

00:52:37 ◼   ► artist name right

00:52:38 ◼   ► got it oh ok then click play again

00:52:43 ◼   ► all right Michael well shouldn't be

00:52:46 ◼   ► pause yeah it doesn't pause yeah it's

00:52:49 ◼   ► weird it doesn't turn to pause what

00:52:50 ◼   ► happens instead is every time you hit

00:52:51 ◼   ► play it just restarts the song which

00:52:54 ◼   ► again maybe maybe that silly but in the

00:52:56 ◼   ► way that this works i want this to be a

00:52:58 ◼   ► UK they've chosen modality that's fine

00:53:00 ◼   ► let's live with modality but to me

00:53:02 ◼   ► modality means i should be able to do

00:53:03 ◼   ► something like hit 14 music and if I tab

00:53:07 ◼   ► one thing is I've got you know the

00:53:09 ◼   ► universal access on so it goes to like

00:53:11 ◼   ► frickin everything but I mean if you

00:53:13 ◼   ► look at this if you never run this app

00:53:15 ◼   ► before and you opened up I just feel

00:53:16 ◼   ► like there's so much opacity to like

00:53:19 ◼   ► what all this means like okay so I mouse

00:53:21 ◼   ► over the name of the album and now i get

00:53:23 ◼   ► an arrow next to it which gives me

00:53:26 ◼   ► options but that it's almost like a play

00:53:28 ◼   ► button don't talk about you if you go up

00:53:30 ◼   ► to that little view dingus

00:53:32 ◼   ► I mean that's cool i'll get used to that

00:53:34 ◼   ► but i don't know i'm going to just bitch

00:53:37 ◼   ► about there's a lot about it that i like

00:53:38 ◼   ► better I wish these fonts for it's so

00:53:40 ◼   ► big

00:53:41 ◼   ► well here's one that I i find

00:53:43 ◼   ► interesting and i'm not quite sure I

00:53:44 ◼   ► guess it's one of those things where I

00:53:49 ◼   ► always come back to the analogy about

00:53:50 ◼   ► you know the disney analogy that the guy

00:53:52 ◼   ► on pirates of the caribbean the one

00:53:54 ◼   ► pirate who's got a foot on the dock one

00:53:57 ◼   ► foot on a boat a handful of a treasure

00:53:59 ◼   ► chest and like 13 hats on his head and

00:54:03 ◼   ► he's metering because it's you know how

00:54:05 ◼   ► the hell you gonna get on a boat i'm

00:54:06 ◼   ► going to get off the shore onto a boat

00:54:08 ◼   ► that's on the water doing that that's

00:54:11 ◼   ► like the hardest thing in the world is

00:54:12 ◼   ► going from the old thing that was

00:54:13 ◼   ► slightly gotta David Blaine thing to the

00:54:15 ◼   ► new thing I and I feel like that's where

00:54:18 ◼   ► itunes is a lot of mac stuff is for

00:54:22 ◼   ► Apple is that they know they've got the

00:54:24 ◼   ► new thing which is a lot simpler and

00:54:26 ◼   ► doesn't have the the craft in the

00:54:28 ◼   ► baggage and all this historical stuff

00:54:30 ◼   ► which is ios and they got the old thing

00:54:32 ◼   ► which is the mac which is really really

00:54:35 ◼   ► powerful and

00:54:36 ◼   ► and let you do all sorts of stuff you

00:54:38 ◼   ► still can't do on iOS so how do they get

00:54:40 ◼   ► from there to here and it's really

00:54:41 ◼   ► really hard so here's a my perfect

00:54:43 ◼   ► example of that one foot on the shore

00:54:45 ◼   ► one foot on a boat that's already on the

00:54:47 ◼   ► water and isn't even tied up is go to a

00:54:52 ◼   ► song in this expanded view thing and you

00:54:54 ◼   ► hover over the song title and you get

00:54:56 ◼   ► that little right-pointing chevron you

00:55:00 ◼   ► know I mean it's like so like if i go by

00:55:02 ◼   ► so if i go back to my Tom Petty record

00:55:03 ◼   ► I'm search by artist see even this view

00:55:06 ◼   ► ok so I'm by artist and I Montana

00:55:08 ◼   ► torpedoes like so next to refugee i

00:55:10 ◼   ► click on the what looks like a closing

00:55:13 ◼   ► bracket

00:55:13 ◼   ► yeah like it's like a greater than sign

00:55:15 ◼   ► in a circle and when you do the same

00:55:17 ◼   ► choices as what you got up in the thing

00:55:20 ◼   ► that play next

00:55:20 ◼   ► at the next that right so it's a

00:55:23 ◼   ► contextual menu right now

00:55:25 ◼   ► yes like it's like it's like control

00:55:26 ◼   ► clicking what happened mmm yeah but what

00:55:29 ◼   ► happens if you control click on the song

00:55:30 ◼   ► you get an entirely different menu

00:55:33 ◼   ► oh come on right ctrl click on it I did

00:55:36 ◼   ► write can't believe so when you control

00:55:38 ◼   ► click on it you get a a regular

00:55:40 ◼   ► max-style contextual menu it's you know

00:55:43 ◼   ► you know it's right out of the system

00:55:45 ◼   ► frameworks it's it's a regular system

00:55:48 ◼   ► standard wide menu with sin lucida

00:55:50 ◼   ► grande the system font if you go to one

00:55:53 ◼   ► with a submenu the submenu as soon as

00:55:55 ◼   ► you hover over it it pops off to the

00:55:57 ◼   ► side right now look at the new one the

00:55:59 ◼   ► one in that little Chevron then when you

00:56:01 ◼   ► think that questions that's cool

00:56:03 ◼   ► well but but does it open when you hover

00:56:04 ◼   ► over it when you so tell me again so I'm

00:56:08 ◼   ► control kicking no not control clicking

00:56:10 ◼   ► don't control sorry go back to the one

00:56:12 ◼   ► aegis regular click on the Chevron I

00:56:14 ◼   ► don't know what you wanted right now if

00:56:16 ◼   ► you go down there is one like genius

00:56:18 ◼   ► suggestions add to the ones that have

00:56:20 ◼   ► another menu off to the side it doesn't

00:56:24 ◼   ► open when you hover over you have to

00:56:25 ◼   ► click on my god really

00:56:27 ◼   ► click on it and then it all colleges in

00:56:30 ◼   ► ok alright i guess i could get used to

00:56:33 ◼   ► that but that's that's really weird

00:56:35 ◼   ► well it is really weird I and very

00:56:38 ◼   ► different from the mac but i do think

00:56:40 ◼   ► that for most people I i think it's a

00:56:42 ◼   ► reasonable argument to be made that this

00:56:44 ◼   ► is the way subject because it looks like

00:56:47 ◼   ► iOS it works like is this is the way

00:56:49 ◼   ► submenus

00:56:49 ◼   ► always should go for it and everybody

00:56:51 ◼   ► knows all the usability studies show

00:56:53 ◼   ► that that hierarchical menus you you

00:56:56 ◼   ► lose easily ninety-five percent of all

00:56:58 ◼   ► users as soon as you go to a menu and

00:57:01 ◼   ► you go down and there's a little thing

00:57:02 ◼   ► to the right and there's a nice menu

00:57:04 ◼   ► piece is actually pretty well done and

00:57:06 ◼   ► the plus sign next to it this is

00:57:07 ◼   ► actually pretty cool that you have once

00:57:09 ◼   ► you understand it right but it's

00:57:11 ◼   ► absolutely it's not like a regular menu

00:57:13 ◼   ► at all i can and you know i SAT there

00:57:17 ◼   ► and hovered over it waiting for it to

00:57:18 ◼   ► open a 10 seconds and then I thought

00:57:20 ◼   ► well if i click well and then it slides

00:57:22 ◼   ► into place and it's animated and its

00:57:24 ◼   ► really nice and you can go back but it's

00:57:26 ◼   ► totally unlike a standard mac contextual

00:57:30 ◼   ► menu and the standard mac contextual

00:57:32 ◼   ► menu is still there which offers an

00:57:34 ◼   ► entirely different set of things you can

00:57:35 ◼   ► do to the song and offers a lot more

00:57:37 ◼   ► stuff although actually it doesn't

00:57:39 ◼   ► they're not but they're not even

00:57:40 ◼   ► separate though there's so you could do

00:57:42 ◼   ► play next from both menus right yeah but

00:57:44 ◼   ► you can't do you get album artwork from

00:57:46 ◼   ► the new right everyone is very limited

00:57:48 ◼   ► the other one the standard mac one has

00:57:51 ◼   ► all sorts of complicated so all this the

00:57:53 ◼   ► the nerdy stuff is still hidden in the

00:57:55 ◼   ► control click one like create AAC

00:57:56 ◼   ► version i recently think that's one of

00:58:01 ◼   ► those you know I don't you probably have

00:58:03 ◼   ► a name for this but one of the things

00:58:04 ◼   ► like allowing you to do reverse

00:58:07 ◼   ► scrolling you think this is one of those

00:58:08 ◼   ► like a legacy thing for the nerds

00:58:10 ◼   ► yes or just yeah because I don't think

00:58:14 ◼   ► that they don't think they could get rid

00:58:15 ◼   ► of that while they could get rid of it

00:58:17 ◼   ► but i think that you know they obviously

00:58:19 ◼   ► haven't haven't really gotten rid of

00:58:20 ◼   ► anything in iTunes you can still do

00:58:22 ◼   ► everything you can to be able to do you

00:58:23 ◼   ► listen to you listen to that podcast

00:58:25 ◼   ► right to what you don't listen to too

00:58:28 ◼   ► many podcast right I don't

00:58:29 ◼   ► well one of the things if you the

00:58:32 ◼   ► feature I've always really liked it

00:58:33 ◼   ► again I'm ready to be wrong about this

00:58:34 ◼   ► but hit whatever command for orgo to

00:58:36 ◼   ► podcast right this is another example of

00:58:38 ◼   ► that more things I used to really love

00:58:40 ◼   ► is like I would go like I this is

00:58:42 ◼   ► something i subscribe to a while ago I

00:58:43 ◼   ► don't unsubscribe but I also don't want

00:58:45 ◼   ► to see that there's 35 episodes i

00:58:47 ◼   ► haven't listened to write and used to be

00:58:49 ◼   ► a control click to say mark always

00:58:51 ◼   ► played or mark always unplayed right and

00:58:54 ◼   ► now if you go to the title and you click

00:58:55 ◼   ► on it you do you get the old you do get

00:58:57 ◼   ► the old-school you know presumably the

00:59:00 ◼   ► same you know I mean the old whatever

00:59:02 ◼   ► you wanna call it the old school

00:59:03 ◼   ► all your menu contextual menu but that's

00:59:06 ◼   ► gone now

00:59:07 ◼   ► yeah mark all is rather it's not there I

00:59:09 ◼   ► don't see it

00:59:10 ◼   ► yeah but you know whatever that seems

00:59:12 ◼   ► weird but I actually use that a lot in

00:59:14 ◼   ► RSS readers i used a lot in if I've been

00:59:17 ◼   ► away for from a high-volume site for for

00:59:19 ◼   ► a few days I'll just frequency mark

00:59:21 ◼   ► always read if if it's not anything to

00:59:23 ◼   ► current that is that that's an unusual

00:59:25 ◼   ► decision it's a better decision I mean I

00:59:27 ◼   ► was driven crazy went to a site the

00:59:30 ◼   ► other day of this artist is comic artist

00:59:32 ◼   ► i liken it has you know the usual kind

00:59:34 ◼   ► of old-school navigation where it's like

00:59:36 ◼   ► they eat where these two call it you

00:59:38 ◼   ► know when you get the drop-down menus so

00:59:40 ◼   ► you click and they say like okay show me

00:59:43 ◼   ► gallery and the gallery has four five

00:59:45 ◼   ► selections LOL cool comic covers you

00:59:47 ◼   ► click comic covers and when you click on

00:59:50 ◼   ► covers it gives you different publishers

00:59:55 ◼   ► ok click Marvel they want to get to

00:59:57 ◼   ► marvel it's different like Siri

00:59:57 ◼   ► marvel it's different like Siri

01:00:00 ◼   ► this is like yeah none of those things

01:00:02 ◼   ► are become content until you get to the

01:00:05 ◼   ► very very end as it happened on this

01:00:07 ◼   ► side and iOS even when you get to the

01:00:08 ◼   ► end it didn't do anything i'm guessing

01:00:10 ◼   ► it was kind of like wonky javascript or

01:00:12 ◼   ► something but not that that's always

01:00:14 ◼   ► been a totally flawed way to deal with

01:00:15 ◼   ► that and I think you know when it can

01:00:18 ◼   ► win the contextual menus come along on a

01:00:21 ◼   ► OS 10 or on on now isn't it was sometime

01:00:24 ◼   ► in America is not here right right but I

01:00:27 ◼   ► mean it's you know not going maybe

01:00:29 ◼   ► sometime I bet there was something

01:00:31 ◼   ► somewhat grudging about that decision

01:00:32 ◼   ► because yeah windows had already done

01:00:35 ◼   ► right now that was a huge windows is

01:00:37 ◼   ► right clicking right was something that

01:00:40 ◼   ► people setting aside the one button to

01:00:42 ◼   ► button thing whatever but not do people

01:00:44 ◼   ► used to do that so often in Windows I

01:00:47 ◼   ► think it's much more of the pattern of

01:00:48 ◼   ► using windows at least in those days so

01:00:50 ◼   ► definitely yeah so even then that might

01:00:53 ◼   ► have felt like a satisfying satisficing

01:00:55 ◼   ► but you know a not totally embrace

01:00:58 ◼   ► decision to do that but you know it's

01:01:01 ◼   ► it's never been fun like right now my

01:01:02 ◼   ► services menu and yes i know there are

01:01:05 ◼   ► things to clean this up but only two

01:01:06 ◼   ► things like bread temperatures markdown

01:01:07 ◼   ► stuff and a lot of other things I've

01:01:09 ◼   ► added my on my services menus is crazy

01:01:13 ◼   ► now or I should say my contextual menu

01:01:16 ◼   ► in the finder and given that they can

01:01:19 ◼   ► the width of the contextual menu is

01:01:20 ◼   ► governed by the name of the longest item

01:01:23 ◼   ► I its giant and it's got like 30 things

01:01:27 ◼   ► in it seems like a menu looks like a

01:01:28 ◼   ► window it it kind of does it looks like

01:01:31 ◼   ► little men you like in a restaurant

01:01:32 ◼   ► right but you know I think the one that

01:01:34 ◼   ► I use just for this is actually I try to

01:01:36 ◼   ► be helpful i think it's called services

01:01:38 ◼   ► manager is the one that I use

01:01:39 ◼   ► I never heard of services manager lets

01:01:41 ◼   ► you go in and change without having to

01:01:43 ◼   ► go to that awful thing in on the Apple

01:01:45 ◼   ► yeah open up services manager you can go

01:01:47 ◼   ► in and turn on turn services off very

01:01:51 ◼   ► easily you can so if you leave it on you

01:01:55 ◼   ► can set whether it appears in context

01:01:56 ◼   ► menus and you can set the key commands

01:01:58 ◼   ► all from here which you know the thing

01:02:02 ◼   ► hit the truth is though any power user

01:02:03 ◼   ► who's going to keyboard to do this it's

01:02:06 ◼   ► I don't know about you but the fastest

01:02:08 ◼   ► Mac I've ever been on i still get a

01:02:09 ◼   ► beach ball waiting for services to to

01:02:11 ◼   ► update yeah

01:02:12 ◼   ► ok and then and then and then another

01:02:14 ◼   ► nice thing here is that then you can say

01:02:16 ◼   ► is a number of allowed items in context

01:02:19 ◼   ► menu and you could say you want two

01:02:21 ◼   ► three four five six seven ten unlimited

01:02:23 ◼   ► so you can choose how many things so

01:02:24 ◼   ► personally I think contextual menus are

01:02:26 ◼   ► way under used by most people especially

01:02:27 ◼   ► in the finder or for that matter and you

01:02:30 ◼   ► know bbedit or text me there's so much

01:02:32 ◼   ► stuff that you can do with those

01:02:33 ◼   ► services your services fan right you

01:02:36 ◼   ► pointed you point me to that that the

01:02:38 ◼   ► services maker thing a few years ago we

01:02:41 ◼   ► took a shell script and make it into a

01:02:42 ◼   ► service service was called service

01:02:45 ◼   ► forget what it's called

01:02:47 ◼   ► I know it's by the guy named just

01:02:49 ◼   ► breasts this service service that's

01:02:51 ◼   ► right video and that's sort of semi

01:02:53 ◼   ► obviated by automator as of like lion

01:02:57 ◼   ► roar lion let your mouth

01:02:58 ◼   ► yeah theoretically although i think this

01:03:01 ◼   ► services ones are a little bit more

01:03:03 ◼   ► first for somebody who knows anything

01:03:04 ◼   ► about eunuchs which is not me the idea

01:03:06 ◼   ► of input-output a filter is is pretty

01:03:08 ◼   ► transparent right but anyway i'm getting

01:03:11 ◼   ► off the topic but i don't know i mean i

01:03:14 ◼   ► think i think i'm going to get get used

01:03:15 ◼   ► to this but there's give me trouble with

01:03:20 ◼   ► command LOL i feel good sometimes

01:03:21 ◼   ► getting trouble with command l working

01:03:24 ◼   ► or not working and I rely on that very

01:03:25 ◼   ► heavily in what app sorry in itunes hit

01:03:29 ◼   ► command l takes you currently playing

01:03:30 ◼   ► song i didn't know that hole dude that's

01:03:33 ◼   ► the last year

01:03:35 ◼   ► that's nice so you probably have another

01:03:37 ◼   ► problem with that

01:03:38 ◼   ► yeah I'll take one is driving me nuts do

01:03:41 ◼   ► you ever open playlist in a new window

01:03:43 ◼   ► like i'll say i want to make a new

01:03:44 ◼   ► playlist for a road trip i'll create the

01:03:46 ◼   ► new playlist and then created a new open

01:03:48 ◼   ► in new window ever do that in itunes i

01:03:50 ◼   ► have previously we'll go double click

01:03:52 ◼   ► one of them now walk right doesn't go

01:03:56 ◼   ► into new window and you don't get to

01:03:58 ◼   ► solve officially a one window a pro yeah

01:04:00 ◼   ► i like but here's a here's an

01:04:02 ◼   ► interesting decision that they made

01:04:03 ◼   ► which i think is a is new and am i i'm

01:04:07 ◼   ► not sure i don't want to pass judgment

01:04:09 ◼   ► either way on ax I'm not sure is the way

01:04:11 ◼   ► that in the interest of showing fewer

01:04:15 ◼   ► things on screen at once they don't show

01:04:17 ◼   ► the sidebar unless you want to turn on

01:04:19 ◼   ► the old fashioned mode but as soon as

01:04:21 ◼   ► you start dragging a song your playlists

01:04:24 ◼   ► open up from the south

01:04:25 ◼   ► oh I'm gonna have to try this so just

01:04:29 ◼   ► grab any song and start dragging it so I

01:04:33 ◼   ► get stuck on the top side here signing

01:04:34 ◼   ► up um I should multitask so I'm taking

01:04:37 ◼   ► on taking a song from anywhere and I

01:04:39 ◼   ► start dragging correct right and yeah

01:04:43 ◼   ► we're looking to do on the right side

01:04:45 ◼   ► doesn't a list of devices any playlist

01:04:47 ◼   ► comes into it that isn't always there

01:04:49 ◼   ► and only when you're dragging ass time

01:04:51 ◼   ► you start dragging and you get a little

01:04:53 ◼   ► list it slides in from the right of

01:04:55 ◼   ► devices and playlist so you could add a

01:04:57 ◼   ► song to a device or you can add a song

01:04:58 ◼   ► to a playlist

01:05:00 ◼   ► I'm guess I'm in an album I mean music

01:05:03 ◼   ► i'm looking at AC Newman's get guilty

01:05:05 ◼   ► taking the chevron just no just drag the

01:05:08 ◼   ► song drag-and-drop ok to write it like

01:05:11 ◼   ► you're moving in somewhere and then off

01:05:13 ◼   ► the side of the right side you don't get

01:05:14 ◼   ► a you don't get a now maybe I'm in the

01:05:17 ◼   ► wrong view them trapped by songs that

01:05:20 ◼   ► works i'm inseong I was an album should

01:05:22 ◼   ► be anywhere soon as you start dragging

01:05:23 ◼   ► you get a a little thing from the side

01:05:26 ◼   ► not kidding i wonder if i have something

01:05:30 ◼   ► turned off

01:05:31 ◼   ► yeah I don't know how that's gonna take

01:05:34 ◼   ► that sounds that sounds like a great

01:05:35 ◼   ► idea so immediately gets that hey

01:05:37 ◼   ► they're grabbing this because they want

01:05:38 ◼   ► to put this someplace

01:05:39 ◼   ► let me give them the option is what

01:05:41 ◼   ► happened to it's very untraditional

01:05:42 ◼   ► though that the destination is invisible

01:05:46 ◼   ► until you start dragging and as soon as

01:05:49 ◼   ► you're done dragging it goes away

01:05:50 ◼   ► because you have to know you do anyway

01:05:53 ◼   ► you would you have to know it before you

01:05:55 ◼   ► would try it

01:05:56 ◼   ► that's kind of what I was trying to get

01:05:58 ◼   ► out with I wasn't trying to be a dick

01:05:59 ◼   ► about it that's kinda was trying to get

01:06:00 ◼   ► out with the opacity about those icons

01:06:02 ◼   ► in my experience and my very small bit

01:06:04 ◼   ► of user experience stuff people are not

01:06:07 ◼   ► too excited about cooking something

01:06:10 ◼   ► unless they know what's going to happen

01:06:11 ◼   ► that goes back to the days of wondering

01:06:13 ◼   ► if you're going to reformat your hard

01:06:14 ◼   ► drive that sounds silly to nerds but

01:06:16 ◼   ► there are a lot of people who will not

01:06:17 ◼   ► just click I mean look at how many

01:06:19 ◼   ► things in this interface have an arrow

01:06:21 ◼   ► to be honest look that's one way to look

01:06:24 ◼   ► at it if you go back to album view and

01:06:25 ◼   ► go look at Tom Petty record i mean there

01:06:27 ◼   ► are so many arrows there's an arrow

01:06:29 ◼   ► right for iCloud there's a chevron just

01:06:32 ◼   ► wasn't the right word like a black

01:06:33 ◼   ► chevron whatever chevron but like

01:06:35 ◼   ► there's a bracket to show next room for

01:06:37 ◼   ► contextual menu

01:06:39 ◼   ► this contextual menu one for each song

01:06:41 ◼   ► when you mouse over there is a

01:06:42 ◼   ► contextual menu one for the app there's

01:06:44 ◼   ► to intermingle and arrows meaning

01:06:47 ◼   ► shuffle there is a narrow a you know a

01:06:50 ◼   ► sideways triangle foreplay and then much

01:06:53 ◼   ► of those things are repeated in the

01:06:56 ◼   ► thing at the top there's anything of

01:06:58 ◼   ► course is the big arrows for play rewind

01:06:59 ◼   ► etc and in almost every piece of

01:07:02 ◼   ► interface and this is some kind of a

01:07:03 ◼   ► narrow and and that to me I would you

01:07:07 ◼   ► know even I've used this stuff for a

01:07:09 ◼   ► while and i still look at that and go

01:07:10 ◼   ► what I know shuffle means you know what

01:07:13 ◼   ► I mean

01:07:13 ◼   ► hey do you have the sidebar showing yes

01:07:16 ◼   ► alright turn off the huts hide the

01:07:18 ◼   ► sidebar right sidebar now now drag us on

01:07:20 ◼   ► ok that must be a let's see and now i

01:07:23 ◼   ► want to go to I clicking clicking oh

01:07:27 ◼   ► that's neat right so it doesn't happen

01:07:32 ◼   ► if you have the sidebar showing because

01:07:34 ◼   ► you don't need it but right but if you

01:07:36 ◼   ► hide the sidebar which is the default

01:07:38 ◼   ► view when you drag a song this right

01:07:42 ◼   ► side sidebar of destinations where you

01:07:45 ◼   ► might want to drop a song devices and

01:07:47 ◼   ► playlists appears adding it to a device

01:07:51 ◼   ► that is really interesting i'm on my

01:07:52 ◼   ► non-primary itunes so I do my secret

01:07:55 ◼   ► through my air and so I'm on my ancient

01:07:58 ◼   ► mac pro right now and if I think it's

01:08:00 ◼   ► grab the device probably won't work but

01:08:02 ◼   ► this is pretty sweet right well anyway

01:08:04 ◼   ► that you can pick a movie or show to

01:08:06 ◼   ► load up on your iPad before you head off

01:08:08 ◼   ► to visit doing that locally or is it

01:08:09 ◼   ► saying go be wise and get this from the

01:08:12 ◼   ► cloud I i think it's if it's by USB it

01:08:15 ◼   ► will copy by USB and if you have the

01:08:18 ◼   ► device setup to sink over Wi-Fi it'll

01:08:20 ◼   ► push it over white I've got it i'm gonna

01:08:22 ◼   ► just do it by iCloud though it will do

01:08:23 ◼   ► it over your local wife

01:08:25 ◼   ► what do I mean like two things two great

01:08:26 ◼   ► things that have been there forever that

01:08:28 ◼   ► are still worth telling people about our

01:08:29 ◼   ► the ad to so like or see now this is

01:08:34 ◼   ► crazy

01:08:35 ◼   ► so if you use the new non contextual

01:08:37 ◼   ► clicking chevron next to a song you get

01:08:39 ◼   ► add to click add to and you can add it

01:08:42 ◼   ► to a playlist right that's I think

01:08:43 ◼   ► that's a great feature but no but now do

01:08:46 ◼   ► the contextual menu version of that and

01:08:48 ◼   ► get something even cooler which is shown

01:08:50 ◼   ► playlist ever use that

01:08:52 ◼   ► now i use that is that all the time so

01:08:54 ◼   ► let's say if you're like me and you got

01:08:55 ◼   ► a million playlist right do this you

01:08:57 ◼   ► might want to say oh I want this in that

01:08:59 ◼   ► party 1999 shuffle show me in there are

01:09:02 ◼   ► right in that context or something I

01:09:05 ◼   ► used to love in back on the creative for

01:09:07 ◼   ► that is a good future

01:09:08 ◼   ► yeah it's something you back on the I

01:09:10 ◼   ► think I'm the creative or maybe on the

01:09:11 ◼   ► diamond rio player was in a shop in the

01:09:13 ◼   ► middle of a shuffle there was a dingus

01:09:15 ◼   ► for saying continue playing along lines

01:09:18 ◼   ► of net play this by clicking whatever

01:09:22 ◼   ► it's called it functionally started

01:09:24 ◼   ► playing it as the track it was on the

01:09:25 ◼   ► record

01:09:26 ◼   ► so if you if your rocks off came up you

01:09:29 ◼   ► could say continue playing album and

01:09:31 ◼   ► then it would play the rest of Exile on

01:09:33 ◼   ► Main Street

01:09:34 ◼   ► ah that's a great feature it's exactly

01:09:36 ◼   ► certain songs were when i hear them then

01:09:39 ◼   ► I didn't immediately want to hear that

01:09:40 ◼   ► usually happens to me with Zeppelin

01:09:41 ◼   ► songs as soon as I hear one I need to

01:09:43 ◼   ► hear the one that I know it's checking

01:09:46 ◼   ► it was like what I do that case for what

01:09:49 ◼   ► it's worth it's a command l to show me

01:09:50 ◼   ► the playing track and then i'll say then

01:09:52 ◼   ► I'll do that right click to show in that

01:09:55 ◼   ► album so i can show you just in the

01:09:56 ◼   ► straight-up legitimate album or you can

01:09:59 ◼   ► hit the course the revealing arrow to

01:10:00 ◼   ► take you to that album one more thing

01:10:03 ◼   ► that's been happening forever 19 that

01:10:05 ◼   ► drives me nuts you know what you can

01:10:06 ◼   ► going to flick i don't know if i did

01:10:08 ◼   ► this with onyx or whether I did it

01:10:11 ◼   ► legitimately but I don't you know you

01:10:12 ◼   ► can change the arrow to mean

01:10:14 ◼   ► itunes store or yeah so I had it set to

01:10:17 ◼   ► show to me the collection was the

01:10:19 ◼   ► weirdest thing like yesterday I was like

01:10:20 ◼   ► I want to go the danger mouse record i

01:10:22 ◼   ► click the arrow and it took me to

01:10:23 ◼   ► everything by danger mouse even though i

01:10:25 ◼   ► click on the album right i was kinda

01:10:26 ◼   ► weird but you know i mean this is this

01:10:29 ◼   ► is the thing I mean yeah it was sort of

01:10:31 ◼   ► like it there was like a hidden

01:10:32 ◼   ► preference that was more or less like

01:10:34 ◼   ► stop trying to upsell me what ya used to

01:10:36 ◼   ► be i guess a plist thing that aren't

01:10:37 ◼   ► like on one of the Sonics or you know

01:10:39 ◼   ► yeah those apps what do you use for

01:10:41 ◼   ► stuff like that I i usually honestly I

01:10:45 ◼   ► used like the terminal and i just type

01:10:47 ◼   ► the default right come out interesting

01:10:50 ◼   ► ok but you don't go in and do stuff like

01:10:52 ◼   ► hi desktop or not anymore now change the

01:10:56 ◼   ► font size in my finder now sidebar know

01:10:59 ◼   ► about catcher pussy now I was getting a

01:11:02 ◼   ► mother giving out for you get for you've

01:11:05 ◼   ► done

01:11:05 ◼   ► but you know it's interesting I mean

01:11:07 ◼   ► that the the big trend everybody out you

01:11:09 ◼   ► and all your buddies always talk about

01:11:11 ◼   ► that is actually turning out to be

01:11:12 ◼   ► pretty interesting is V nokia is this

01:11:17 ◼   ► move toward being more iOS like which i