23: More Useful and Less Horrible, with Dan Frommer
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you're a good piece on the on the ipad
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mini I thought that you would you know
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you you ordered one showed up you used
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it for a couple days you wrote about it
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and was the headline something like this
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is the real ipad-based yeah and I
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thought that really bad that guy that
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really was like a bull's-eye canned and
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don't you think that the consensus on
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that has been remarkably strong almost
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everyone who's responded has been like
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yeah totally I agree a few people you
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know stink the the bigger one is still
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the the best the best one but most
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people I think it's one of those things
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were and are few rotor someone but once
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you feel it you know you know you use it
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for a few days and you're like oh my arm
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is not tired after holding this for five
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hours you know something like that is
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just using it today out and about and
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it's easy to tuck into a jacket pocket
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if I need to or my back packets don't
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you know you don't even know it's there
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and it's great i think that what it will
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resurface though I think as this idea
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that maybe this mini sized iPad is the
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one that's best for most people as it
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starts to sink in as more and more
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people get their hands on them and it
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you know this idea resonate it's going
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to resurface the argument about whether
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iPads are for creation or consumption or
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you know only consumption and I think
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the reason that for me it's a better
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form factor is that i personally do like
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I and people want to call me a hypocrite
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for this but i personally have always
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used the ipad mostly for consumption
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lots and lots of reading and
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occasionally video like baseball season
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I watch a lot of video on the ipad i
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think this is a great form factor for
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consumption but I'm also a very strong
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proponent of the fact that there are a
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lot of people who are using their iPads
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as their computer to create stuff to do
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work and I think for them there that's
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the people who are still going to want
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the big ipad and I and I think that's
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absolutely true and that's why they
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should continue to have multiple sizes
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of ipad that makes sense and i think
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it's a situation where you know when
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they release
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at two-and-a-half years ago they had no
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idea how many people would use it and
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what they would use it for and it turns
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out that a hundred million people have
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wanted to use it and they use it for all
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kinds of different stuff you know I i
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assume you your workflow is a lot like
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mine where we we really get the benefit
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from having a physical keyboard and
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multiple browser tabs open but if
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someone is is doing a lot of email and
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and that's about it for work
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the big ipad is a great laptop
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replacement I try to do my job on on an
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iPad it just wasn't wasn't cutting it
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for the things that I do love using the
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ipad for reading in bed reading books
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you know I i put on the machine when i'm
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at the gym and I either watch video or I
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read or something like that
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this new size is really perfect for that
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just walking around the house like I not
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you know there's two spots where i do or
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you know where I'm at
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when I'm in my house i'm either at my
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desk in my office chair with my big boy
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keyboard and a mac and my big display
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and I'm working or for me effectively on
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anywhere else in the house and it
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doesn't matter whether it's bed or
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whether it's the couch or whether I'm in
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the kitchen making coffee waiting for
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the water to boil and I'm just standing
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there any of those other spots other
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than sitting in this office chair my
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desk at the ipad mini is a better form
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factor is going to like what I'm
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standing up its really when it's just
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fantastic just to have it in one hand
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and I'm standing right now so and I'm
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waving it around
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oh but it's something with it but now
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completely agree there's some little
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things though that I want to ask you
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ok so for example stereo sound which you
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know people male probably a little
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bigger deal out of it than they should
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have it's not that big of a deal but
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it's it's set up for portrait but when I
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want stereo sound i'm usually in
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landscape watching a video you think
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that's intentional or do you think
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they'll ever be like a left and right
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sound for video or is that just kind of
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stereo almost there by accident
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yeah that's actually curious and I
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actually didn't even know that I don't
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remember if they mentioned it on on
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and the event or what but I'm so used to
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all iOS devices being mono even though
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they all look like they've even I think
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all the way back to the original iphone
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they all look like they have two
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speakers at the bottom but don't you can
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icon all the iphones you can just cover
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up the one side is usually the left side
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and then all the sound stops coming out
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the right side is like a microphone or
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something like that they just for
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aesthetic purposes make the two sides
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look the same well that ends up with the
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ipad mini they are both speakers and I
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didn't know that until after my review
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came out I don't think they mentioned it
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all until it was in some and folks told
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some of the reviewers or I think Josh
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Topolsky at the verge was the one who
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called it out in his review and it was
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funny one of the funny part about that
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is that amazon has this is sort of
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infamous checklist up on their homepage
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complete trying to favorably compared
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the kindle fire HD 7 to the ipad mini
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and one of the things that they had up
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was stereo speakers and you know they
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had that as a check for them in the next
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for the ipad and ipad mini ends up it
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does have stereo speakers i'm with you
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though that it doesn't really make much
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of a difference though I think one of
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the reasons you know that stereo never
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really mattered on these devices is
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what's the difference if you have stereo
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sound if the speakers are only three
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quarters of an inch apart right if it's
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not actually wider apart than your head
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you're not going to get a stereo effect
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I mean it's like people don't even seem
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to realize how stereo sound works the
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thing for me has always been as I'm
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watching video which is you know
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probably i would guess at least a
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quarter of the time I spend with an ipad
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i'm probably watching the video or maybe
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you know somewhere in that range
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I'm holding it in landscape mode and the
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sound is you know very clearly off to
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one side right it's not kind of pushing
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toward both ears and I've not going to
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cup your hand to push it backwards
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almost so it becomes more neutral but
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it's not at all
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so that's where having one of those
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little speakers at what's effectively
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the top and the bottom of the device
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might be more useful but i don't know
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maybe that's weird then you got you how
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many speakers you need three or four
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something like that then you're getting
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motorola territory
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yeah I i guess and i know i forget i
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don't think certainly not the first
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person to speculate along these lines
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but as people realize that the mini does
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have stereo speakers I i guess that it's
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to get the to increase the volume of
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I don't mean the loudness I mean know
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that that with such a small device to
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get enough sound out of it needs two
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speakers and if you're gonna have two
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speakers why not make them stereo sure
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yeah makes sense but I do kind of agree
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III and in fact I'll just say this as i
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say this i I've actually not even
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verified that it is stereo and it's not
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to two speakers playing mono hottie and
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I honestly don't even know and like you
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said most of the time when I'm listening
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to the speaker's it's because it's
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playing video and if it's playing video
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I'm holding it horizontally in which
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case both speakers are on the same side
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i typically the right side because
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that's the side that that's where the
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speakers will go if you fold up the
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smart cover and again what's the point
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of having left and right stereo if both
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speakers are on the right side other
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than to increase the amount of actual
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sound coming out of this tiny little
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yep and then and then little weird
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question number two I had was so this
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this is using the effectively the same
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display panel as the iphone 3gs that
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pixels-per-inch level so when i do
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assume make they eventually have a
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retina mini do they use the pixels per
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inch of the iphone which is higher than
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the ipad with retina or do they go to
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the ipad is the many all the sudden have
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like the best screen ever and the ipad
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the full-size ipad with retina looks bad
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next to it yes I don't know i don't
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think it will go because i think that
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there's the sort of argument that at
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once you're in that range sure you're
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going to look and you probably hold the
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bigger device a little further away from
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your face but I don't think they would
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hesitate know the way that they will go
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retina is exactly the way they've done
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with all other devices which is the
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physical size stays the same and the
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pixels per inch doubles which means that
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they'll switch to the exact same pixels
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per inch of as the iphone and ipod touch
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makes sense there's didn't you know
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switching to the DPI of the big ipad
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makes no sense because then you'd have a
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different pixel count you Dave
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developers would have to actually resize
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you know do work on the right well
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that's gonna be amazing that's going to
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be right killer
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yeah and then I also kind of wonder you
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know obviously there's some bleep in
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technology that let them make it so thin
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and light it's not just that it's
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smaller although it plays a role but
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it's interesting to me they did not take
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that step and make the bigger one with
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the same kind of whatever that is
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at the same time but I guess you know
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alternate these things one year to the
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next and yeah i think that that is a
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good point of a great listed of
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questions here dan I thought about a lot
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of this stuff i think the explanation
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there is the ecosystem surrounding
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peripherals which is ok so a lot of
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people who have already bought the ipad
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3 in the seven months where it was
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available or kind of butthurt about the
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fact that hate seven months later or if
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you bought it let's say you only bought
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the damn thing in august or something
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two months later it's already been
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replaced by something twice as fast and
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we know why would Apple do that blah
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blah blah but the one thing that they
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haven't done is disrupt any of the
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people making cases or covers or
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anything that is based on the physical
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dimensions of the device true which it
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there's a lot and that's you know
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christmas is coming up and that's going
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to be a big time for those things right
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so I think and I think you'll be able to
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compare as we head towards the holidays
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here and thanksgiving is ramping up as
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to which device has the most peripherals
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available for the full-size iPad or the
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ipad mini and I think it's pretty clear
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it's going to be the full-size iPad
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whereas if the ipad for was thinner in
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addition to just being faster than the
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ipad 3 it would be stuck in the same
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boat as the ipad
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many energy this dearth of peripheral
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peripherals available for it
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that makes total sense you are you using
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the smart cover with yours
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I am and I've seen it was it you who
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said you're just going to toss around a
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bag no cover
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well I did write that I'm a little scary
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right the idea that big screen
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I when I put it in my bag i think i'll
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keep using the case but like I had in my
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pocket yesterday I want to pick up
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dinner and I just went case looks like
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it was totally fine i almost feels like
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this covers almost unnecessary it so
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it's it's not even that heavy or that
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bulky it's just I don't know i've been
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using it with the cover and I don't know
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I don't know why
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I'll tell you what one reason why is
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that I do tend to i tend to treat the
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loaner units from Apple even more
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carefully than I treat the ones that I
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bought with my own money because i don't
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know it's like that the Catholic guilt
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in me that I i would feel absolutely
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horrible if I send this thing back to
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them in a week or two and it's a head
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like scratches on the glass and you know
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I mean and I don't even know why that is
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because I know it's not like I think
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that when you send these reviewing its
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back to Apple that you know poor little
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apple needs did you know they really
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need every single one of these minis it
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goes right to the apple store right
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under the sales show but i don't know
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it's just the way I am is if I've got I
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always treat somebody else's thing in my
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possession better than I would even
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treat my own that's just how I was
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brought up if you've borrowed something
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from somebody it you'd really need to
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give it back to them in the exact
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condition that they gave it to you
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whether it's your pal man who gave it to
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you or whether it's apple the you know
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400 gazillion dollar corporation you
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treat other people stuff with respect so
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I keep the cover on but I do have to
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admit that it putting the cover on it
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does make me feel though that I'm
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missing out on the thinnest right this
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remarkable thickness of it it's not as
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dramatic as the first ipad with that
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huge neoprene wetsuit but it's still and
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it's the same reason that I have never
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put my iphones in a case because i feel
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like i hear ya but it's not almost think
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of this thing is more of like a big
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iphone them and then a laptop or
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something like that but we'll see we'll
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see how it plays out
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I don't want obviously don't want this
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going to scratch that would be earliest
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too much the back is already a little
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scratch but that's ok i do think i think
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that the cover on this new Smart Cover
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folds over a little better than the
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original one does she still my ipad 3 /
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4 like that thing mine falls off
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constant I i still feel though that when
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you have it folded over that last panel
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it's you know a little flippy floppy in
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its it when you're just sitting there
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reading something long for a long
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stretch holding anything in your hand
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it's better without a cover on
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definitely i did figure i just took me
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I don't know why it's one of those
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things that once you think about it
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seems very obvious but for it took me
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forever to figure this out was when the
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ipad first came out I was very confused
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why they put the volume and mute oggle
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on the other side as opposed to you know
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making it like a big iphone and putting
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them on the left and of course it's
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because when you put a cover on this
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thing that spine is on the left and the
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buttons would be covered up
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yeah you want it almost as those book
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style covers which I i think they make
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for the phone but I wouldn't but then
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that makes me wonder why they didn't
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know why they didn't put those buttons
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on the right side of the iphone to start
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I don't know you know what I bet there's
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an answer to that question though I'm
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I'll bet there is too
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I don't know but how do you think iOS
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shot you know does it come through on
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this thing it some of the like the home
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screen icons they feel like they could
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be a little bigger but it seems like
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they've tried not to disturb the ipad
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flavor of iOS at all it is
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pixel for pixel exactly the same like I
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don't think I I honestly I haven't
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double-checked with any of my developer
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friends I don't even know if there is
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any supported way for a nap to figure
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out that it's running on an ipad mini
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you know that all the app knows is that
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the screen is 1024 x 768 and the
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guidelines from Apple about laying stuff
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out is all about these points and that
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it's all the same that I really don't
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think Apple wants anybody to do anything
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different for the mini than for the
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full-size iPad i think early on i think
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you're right i think Marco Arment was to
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it was tweeting about trying to reverse
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engineer at how to make that work is
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something like does not have retina
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screw something about the resolution and
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there was some other feature that
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yeah and maybe like something about the
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cpu performance or something I don't
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know there must be some there's probably
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some way that you can figure it out just
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by like deduction that if i send this in
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this then it has to be a mini it's not
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the ipad 2 and I could see you know an
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instant papers are perfect to appt
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example or maybe the default font size
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should be a little bigger in terms of
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actual points on the mini and on the
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full-size iPad for a couple of reasons a
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the actual physical size of the screen
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and then be the fact that it's not
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retina means that you kind of want funds
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to be a little bigger so i can see that
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but I'd seems like apple doesn't want
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you to do that and they do haven't done
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anything like that you know the home
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screen i think it's exactly the same
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yep yeah it works it works though
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so another thing I want to ask you about
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you don't you don't mind is the sum of
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the changes that you know might
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anticipate that that the new crew at
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Apple might put into iOS one of the one
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of the things i was thinking you know is
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that is there any low-hanging fruit in
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terms of either where the iOS where the
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OS itself goes or you know they not so
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much the whole are they gonna deskew
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more for the apps or anything like that
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but would you expect the experience
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itself is going to change dramatically
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in the next few years or is it going to
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stay largely the same i really don't
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know I can see it both ways my first
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instinct is to say i don't think it's
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going to change at all i think that
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they've defined what this is people are
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very comfortable with it i think the
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reason that people are so happy
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switching to it in droves you know and
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clearly if you just look at the wrong
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numbers they're not you know they're
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getting people who weren't previously
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your customers they're you know they're
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getting people who were you know using
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Windows I think it's this Simpson
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implicitly of experience that there just
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doesn't seem to be much that hidden from
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you and I don't know how that could
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change very much
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it just doesn't seem like there is much
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to change it seems like people have seen
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how radically android has had to change
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itself just to make itself more useful
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and less horrible but it seems like they
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they they want to force that notion of
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radical change on to apple in iOS which
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if you could if you've been using a mac
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for the last 20 years
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Arthur really isn't that much to
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different you know there's this is the
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menu at the top there's folders there's
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windows and that kind of stuff it just
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seems like expecting that sort of
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radical change in the general area of
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the operating system doesn't make sense
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no i don't think so either and i also
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think that it really does matter what
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you start with conceptually as you
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evolve because it's really hard to add
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things later on in my favorite example
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of this and I've talked about this i
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don't know how long ago but i know is on
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this the the talk show but my favorite
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example of that is the stuff that they
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introduced in Lyon think it was lying
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when they introduced launchpad and
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Mission Control in mac OS 10 to use any
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of that stuff no I haven't either
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I and I think big part of it is is that
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they weren't there from the beginning
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and their tacked on and so they're sort
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of outside the original concept of what
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you are going to have and they just
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don't fit and and i'll go back further
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to two spaces and I think now they don't
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really talk about spaces that much I
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kind of can't consider that part of
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Mission Control but spaces and Mac os10
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just have never worked as well as I
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think they do on other GUI systems that
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are designed from the get go to have
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multiple desktops it just has never
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seems right to me what you know
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is it the whole app is in this thing is
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it just the window just all seems kinda
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tacked on and i'm not saying that it was
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a mistake to add it but I'm saying it
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just shows how difficult it is to add
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conceptual level additions and changes
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to something once it's been set and I
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feel like iOS is even simpler than the
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original mac that's just this basic idea
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of you know to there's really just two
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levels there's the home screen which is
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a list of apps and then you're in an app
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and the app gets the whole screen and if
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you want to go back to hit this big
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button at the bottom and that's it and
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there's a few exceptions to that you
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know there's the when you're on the home
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you go to the left of the first home
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screen and there's that spotlight search
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which doesn't really it's sort of
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outside those simple simple rules of
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engagement where are you when you're
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doing that but it doesn't seem to be
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confusing you know it's not really it
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that it's worth stretching the rules of
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Cirie is outside these this simple rule
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that you're either at the home screen or
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in a nap but it's like it's almost like
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an entirely separate mode to using your
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I just don't see them changing that very
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much you know and eventually it will get
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old I don't know how long now I think
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it's got a lot of legs in front of it i
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think that's right
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one thing that I think about because
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it's kind of personal problem in my
00:21:01
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house is sharing these things and
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whether that's you know sharing an ipad
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that's kind of been retired and is not
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like the house ipad and there's no my
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wife and I have different obviously
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different email accounts and different
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accounts for other things and then even
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just sinking multiple even just thinking
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multiple iphones and ipads to the same
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mac which I guess I cloud kind of his I
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think this ipad is the first thing that
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I'm just never going to sync to my Mac
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its i set it up completely from scratch
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on iCloud and it's never been plugged
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into a mac and I think I never will plug
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it into a mac but even like we got
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iphone 5 on a month in a month ago or so
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trying to restore from backup off of the
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itunes app on the mac like half of my
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apps on my phone were somehow a
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registered to my wife's itunes account
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and vice versa so every time we try to
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upgrade app so if the delete half of
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them and and reinstall them from scratch
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with the right itunes account and it's
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just like you know I I don't think I did
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►
anything wrong i'm kind of nerd you know
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setting these things up but there hasn't
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doesn't seem to have been much thought
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put into the idea of sharing these
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things and and just this whole idea of
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an itunes household like my itunes match
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account is sitting on my imac with the
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whole family's music hooked up to it yet
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and I don't even know if I can have
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someone else's ipad or iphone sync to
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that it's just it's not like they're
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doing this you know that it's not like
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they're just not thinking about it all
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►
but I think that as as more families
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have multiple iOS devices and maybe
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fewer max going forward I think more
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thought could be put into this and
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hopefully i think is it budgets do that
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I think it's a very hard problem to
00:23:00
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solve a but i do i agree though that
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►
you're onto something there that it to
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me and that would be the biggest change
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and it's not the sort of thing that like
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people who are looking for
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Wow as soon as I booted up this new
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iphone from 2013 it looks totally
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different you're not going to get that
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►
but I feel like a major a major thing
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that they could work on is look here's a
00:23:22
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brand-new iphone here's my itunes email
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here's my password now make it exactly
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like my old one was and do it fast and I
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feel like they're I feel like it's
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gotten better and better especially with
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iCloud but it is nowhere near good
00:23:38
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►
enough in my opinion like I think it
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►
should be like when I back up my mac
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with super duper it's the backup drive
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is just a clone of my startup drive and
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so if I unmount my actual startup drive
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and instead mount from my SuperDuper
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clone my mac looks exactly like it was
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when I backed it up and I think they
00:24:01
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don't have that yet
00:24:03
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with iOS and I i I'm not even I I don't
00:24:07
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see what the argument is why they
00:24:08
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shouldn't like you said like sometimes
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you be restored from backup and it's
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like half your apps are there and half
00:24:15
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aren't and yeah they were you know some
00:24:18
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some weird ones would show up where they
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just be not registered to the right
00:24:22
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►
itunes account and i just it the the
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same with Apple was always you know it
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just works and and that's still true for
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the most part but sometimes it doesn't
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work at all it's in it's infuriating but
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it just isn't that easy to get back to
00:24:36
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where you were it's good that you have
00:24:37
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►
these iCloud backups but it just doesn't
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I don't know and it doesn't you know
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►
doesn't have ever to have all your
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it's weird like some of the passwords
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there and some are in and i don't quite
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get it there's not quite a logic or a
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rhyme and reason to it and I you know I
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guess I run into this more often than
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►
most people because I get these review
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►
units or I gonna buy one of everything
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and so it feels like every couple months
00:25:00
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i'm setting up a new iPad and I want all
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my stuff over and it's not just always
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seems like it takes longer and more
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steps than then it should
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they just never really took advantage of
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instantly liked that did like right
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surface as look this thing has a
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wish your ipad had a keyboard you should
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get this and I can see how that
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crazy you know
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bought a surface now I did not buy 1i
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seen enough to sort of Judge it and and
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think I've ever really use I'm
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definitely curious and you know but i
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think an hour playing with it was
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enough for me but I do I just feel like
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conceptually they've got something where
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the whole thing is cloud-based that
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they've got the this sort of the day
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they've got a middle ground between
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Apple and Google where Google everything
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is cloud-based but primarily through the
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web you know that PAP know people using
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gmail through a web browser and apple
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has the apps the local apps you know and
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they all the advantages of native apps
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but they don't have the cloud thing I
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feel like there's a middle ground
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therefore win for windows where you get
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native apps with ubiquitous cloud
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storage and then everything syncs
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yeah in theory in theory it's one of
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those things where if they had all this
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you know four years ago
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five years ago but they're just every
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time it seems like they're you know
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they're playing catch-up here like what
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you when they did the zune it was not a
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bad idea but they copied the wrong ipod
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you know they did it by the time the
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zune came out everyone was on to the
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mini and the nano and it'd be the you
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know basically last year's ipod and and
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it seems like the surface is is almost
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like last year's ipad and that they're
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never owned a windows computer but I was
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promising and and since then you know
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until now this is the first time with
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second about about buying some sort of
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windows related portable thing so but I
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i went to one in Manhattan
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it just you know right away I was like
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okay this is it's not 10 times better
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than the ipad or whatever so it's not
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gonna be hard hard to get people who
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ridiculous i probably would have just
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the ipad and i agree i've seen a couple
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people this week as you know people
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start getting their minis who said the
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same thing you just said which is that
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boy it really feels like Apple just yank
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they've you know they've shipped like a
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2011 ipad competitor which is the same
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problem Paul mad our HP or whatever it
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was you know they're there
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the what's the skating toward where the
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puck used to be kind of situation but
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maybe that's ok there's still this
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concept of using office on this thing
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that I just don't get it at all like you
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know maybe maybe I've been publishing on
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the web too long and i haven't used the
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word doc in a long time but it's just
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the idea that these thin tablets which
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are you know kind of almost like a
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recreation device to a lot of people
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they're like oh this is fun i don't have
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to use this thing for work
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the idea that that all the sudden you're
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going to want to go and not doing excel
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model on this to me that it just doesn't
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make any sense
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and I've tried you know i i've
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downloaded Pages and Numbers and Keynote
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use them all on I don't use pages i use
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numbers all the time and came out all
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the time on my mac and then it's great
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but I just have never thought to spend
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any time with them on an iPad it just
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doesn't make any sense to me so i don't
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know i think if anything that some of
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the entertainment stuff that Microsoft
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has is more attractive than the office
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stuff like if you could tell anyone with
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the next box that they could play you
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know either part of their game or even
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the full version of the game you know I
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don't know how to do the controller but
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if you could do something I on a surface
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to me that's a lot more interesting than
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hey this thing runs office
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I don't know yeah and I think it's
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telling that there's always been the
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what are you gonna do on it
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question about the ipad right if you
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know and and you know it's really half
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of it was really the just about the
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whole presentation in 2010 when Steve
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Jobs debuted is you know this you know
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this slide as you know is a phone on one
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side there's a macbook on the other is
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there room in the middle for something
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in here and if so the only reason
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anybody is going to buy it is if that
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stuff you can do here in the middle is
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better than doing it anywhere else and
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there you know and I don't think it's a
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coincidence that the you know they
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launched with these ipad versions of of
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the off you know might have apples
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office apps of pages keynote and numbers
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and nobody you know it just doesn't seem
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like any of those three apps and I know
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they're still top sellers but I just
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don't hear people saying yeah that's
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what I love doing on my iPad and I I
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can't say that like looking over
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people's shoulders and airports and
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coffee shops that I see people doing
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numbers spreadsheets on your iPad that
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often i think they were like it was sort
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of a bad gas
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I think it's good that those apps exist
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and i do use them especially now with
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iCloud where I can store like these
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spreadsheets like I keep my my
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sponsorship schedules and a number of
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and I updated almost all the time from
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my mac but it's fantastic if somebody
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sends me an email and i can check i can
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just open it up on my iPhone and and
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check and I can see it and if i need to
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you know make a change or something like
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that i can do it but it's a we always
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feels real finicky it seems like they
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did it like a zit
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yeah as an insurance policy you know to
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be get it took up a good chunk of the
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Keen out and it was apple's way of
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saying hey you can feel comfortable that
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these apps exist that they still sell
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like crazy like they're always near the
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top of the top-grossing list so people
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kind of by that to feel comfortable that
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they have them I it's sort of i think
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the same way that they built that texas
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hold'em game you know when the app store
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first launched it was the no we don't we
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don't know if anyone's going to make a
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lot of good games for these things so at
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least we got one right and and then I've
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seen how usage hasn't really gone that
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way but I think it's telling that they
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haven't really updated them know at all
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okay well they haven't for the mac
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either i guess but i think that it's you
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know I think there's still potential
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there but i do think a big part of the
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problem numbers to me is the biggest
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example is that a spreadsheet that's
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optimized for the ipad like that it was
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just I pad only and didn't even have a
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mac or windows counterpart I think would
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be a lot different than what we've got
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with numbers like we're numbers to me is
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is it's all trying to maintain the
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fidelity of these spreadsheets you make
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on your Mac where you can make the cells
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real small and you've got this real
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precise mouse pointer and a for most
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people a much bigger screen than you
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know 10 inches
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whereas I feel like a really truly
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native ipad spreadsheet app would have
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much bigger finger friendly cells and an
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interface but I don't even think the
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whole active spreadsheet in really is
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conducive to touch i mean it's a you
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know it's a real data processing
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intensive thing where is that the like
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you know you always say Oh microsoft
00:41:20
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would appeal to the enterprise and that
00:41:21
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was always the thing that room was
00:41:23
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supposedly going to be good at two but
00:41:25
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in touch it seems like the enterprise is
00:41:27
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not the same thing as it is in pcs like
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npcs it's this idea of
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a huge office with a hunt you know with
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500l towers a stacked up in it in touch
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it seems like the enterprise is this
00:41:41
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tablet's everywhere in places that there
00:41:44
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were never computers before I i just got
00:41:47
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coffee on the way home before the show
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and you know of course the cash register
00:41:51
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it at almost all the coffee shops that
00:41:53
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I've been to in the last few months
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they're all ipads and that's kind of the
00:41:58
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new enterprise and it doesn't seem like
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Microsoft know me of course I I haven't
00:42:03
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done a lot of research it doesn't seem
00:42:04
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like they have a big plan for that
00:42:07
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yeah i I just I just don't I don't know
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I feel like that they're trying to
00:42:14
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maintain and a connection with the past
00:42:17
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that they anticipate being there forever
00:42:19
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that isn't isn't going to be by the way
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that's why I think they're still doing
00:42:24
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the ipad 2 which is these you know that
00:42:26
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the ipad as the display as signage
00:42:29
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and/or cat cafe cash register right or
00:42:33
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if you don't need to spend money on
00:42:35
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retina right who needs right now when
00:42:36
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it's some kids gonna spill soda on
00:42:39
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understanding i mean i don't have sales
00:42:41
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numbers apple is you never breaks that
00:42:42
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stuff down and even privately whoever
00:42:45
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the people are you know exactly which
00:42:46
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ipad have sold you know they're not
00:42:51
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going to tell me but you know just
00:42:52
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offhandedly and like you know just in
00:42:55
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raw numbers though it's you know I've
00:42:57
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been told that yeah the ipad 2
00:42:59
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definitely has sold well and Horace did
00:43:02
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you has figured out i don't even know
00:43:05
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the ways that guys like a like a wizard
00:43:07
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with numbers but he's figured out that
00:43:08
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the average revenue per ipad has come
00:43:12
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down pretty significantly in the last
00:43:14
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seven months and that the only expert
00:43:16
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the only possible explanation for that
00:43:17
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is that the 399 ipad2 was selling very
00:43:20
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well because there's no other way that
00:43:22
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because that the prices didn't change
00:43:24
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otherwise the only way that the average
00:43:26
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revenue per ipad would have come down as
00:43:30
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if that 399 iPad sold really well yeah
00:43:35
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and actually have the number somewhere
00:43:37
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not in front of me
00:43:39
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nevermind haha that's Mac + iPad so that
00:43:43
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doesn't tell us anything
00:43:45
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yeah i agree and that's why I think this
00:43:47
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330 i pad mini like you know yeah it's
00:43:52
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not 200 bucks but it's also not 500
00:43:55
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bucks so and you know and needs it's a
00:43:59
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way to easy even for the reasonable you
00:44:01
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know the smart handsome guys like me and
00:44:04
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it's easy for us to get caught up in
00:44:06
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what's going on right now you know and
00:44:09
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consider like the long-term to be the
00:44:11
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end of this quarter
00:44:13
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whereas if you just look just one year
00:44:15
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out and you know two or three years from
00:44:17
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now the distance between november 2012
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in November 2013 and you know from the
00:44:22
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from the future it doesn't look it's not
00:44:24
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that big you know one year isn't that
00:44:26
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much time with a year from now if they
00:44:28
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have a 329 retina ipad mini and then
00:44:32
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keep the non-retina 1 and use that to
00:44:35
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drop the point below 300 while the whole
00:44:37
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thing just makes total sense then we
00:44:40
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have the only way that doesn't work out
00:44:42
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for them and it just I just don't see
00:44:43
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this happening and I think they know it
00:44:45
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too is if you know these 200 and 250
00:44:49
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►
dollar tablets from amazon and google
00:44:51
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►
just sell an unbelievable numbers over
00:44:53
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the next you know eight nine ten months
00:44:55
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and I just don't think that's gonna
00:44:57
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happen i don't see it either the there's
00:45:00
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a lot of praise among the kind of nerd
00:45:04
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set above the nexus tablets but I don't
00:45:07
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even know where to buy one like and i
00:45:10
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►
wrote a post about this i think last
00:45:12
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►
week or the week before but with an ipad
00:45:15
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you know it's very obvious you go to
00:45:17
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►
your local apple store or the electronic
00:45:20
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►
store with a smartphone you generally
00:45:22
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buy from your carrier but with the nexus
00:45:25
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and you know with the kindle yeah you go
00:45:27
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►
to amazon.com the the world's most
00:45:29
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►
popular online store but if you want to
00:45:31
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buy a nexus tablet
00:45:33
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►
where do you even go you know Microsoft
00:45:37
◼
►
Elise has has taken upon itself to set
00:45:39
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up some stores in basically every mall
00:45:42
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►
in every nice mall and I google you know
00:45:47
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►
what are they not rivage not trying to
00:45:49
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►
sell that many of them i don't know it
00:45:51
◼
►
date they do seem to have completely is
00:45:54
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►
issued brick-and-mortar retail
00:45:57
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which I think makes sense for some
00:46:01
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►
things like me a you know obviously
00:46:05
◼
►
phones are going to go through carriers
00:46:08
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►
primarily so they've been able to sell
00:46:09
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►
you know an insane amount of phones
00:46:11
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►
without ever having to touch retail and
00:46:15
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►
you know even their their ecommerce
00:46:16
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►
efforts they kind of scaled back at
00:46:19
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►
because they did so poorly but tablets
00:46:21
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►
are iono i wish i knew what percent of
00:46:24
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►
you know Apple will tell you what
00:46:26
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►
percent of Max they sell in their apple
00:46:28
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►
stores but they don't say for the ipad i
00:46:30
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►
wish that I I knew that might i would
00:46:33
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►
guess that it's pretty high when I would
00:46:35
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like to know 24 like barnes and noble
00:46:37
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and I feel like the Nook is often the
00:46:39
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►
dark matter in these discussions because
00:46:41
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►
it's just seems like everybody and I do
00:46:44
◼
►
this too is that when you say well what
00:46:45
◼
►
are the biggest competitors to the ipad
00:46:47
◼
►
i think surface nexus kindle but nook is
00:46:53
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►
doing pretty good
00:46:54
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►
I mean it's certainly that at least it's
00:46:56
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►
not like a complete dud but i wonder how
00:47:00
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►
much of theirs are being sold through
00:47:02
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►
their brick-and-mortar retail stores
00:47:04
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I mean I know that when I go into the
00:47:06
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►
one here in philly that the barnes and
00:47:07
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►
noble it's impossible to miss than the
00:47:10
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►
kiosk I mean it is you come in the door
00:47:13
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►
and i would i would venture to say it's
00:47:17
◼
►
the best real estate in the entire store
00:47:19
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►
absolutely i think it's i think it's
00:47:22
◼
►
pretty much you know that's what it is
00:47:24
◼
►
it's the fact that they have such great
00:47:26
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►
to distribution within their own know
00:47:30
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►
within their own chain i mean at my my
00:47:33
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kind of one-liner about the nuke is that
00:47:35
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►
the most amazing thing about it is that
00:47:37
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►
it exists it's this bookstore chain of
00:47:40
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all companies has been able to make like
00:47:42
◼
►
it and actually ok computer you know
00:47:46
◼
►
that target hasn't been able to do that
00:47:48
◼
►
or smart or any other retail chain but
00:47:51
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all of a sudden this bookstore has this
00:47:53
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►
decent tablet computer and no barnes and
00:47:56
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►
noble I think it's still wear a lot of
00:47:57
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people just go to hang out when they
00:47:59
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►
when they have time to kill and you know
00:48:02
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►
200 bucks is it's not an absurd amount
00:48:05
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►
spent at the bookstore that's like three
00:48:07
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►
dvds so I think that's done really well
00:48:10
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►
for them and now don't forget microsoft
00:48:12
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►
now owns a chunk of that note business
00:48:14
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►
up and I you know that that's I always
00:48:17
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►
wonder is that like they're kind of plan
00:48:18
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B if things don't work out with nokia is
00:48:20
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going to be okay you know is that
00:48:23
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►
strikes me horrible business that
00:48:25
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►
strikes me there now that i think about
00:48:27
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►
it because i mentioned i think with mg
00:48:29
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last week that at the surface event in
00:48:31
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New York the demo units and Microsoft
00:48:33
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had set up they had a bunch of
00:48:35
◼
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third-party apps including Amazon Kindle
00:48:37
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►
but it was weird because the kindle apps
00:48:39
◼
►
didn't have any books in them you can
00:48:41
◼
►
launch the kindle app but there were
00:48:43
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►
they didn't they didn't preload any
00:48:44
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►
kindle books in there which seemed like
00:48:46
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►
what's the point of even putting the app
00:48:48
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►
on their way now makes me wonder why
00:48:50
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►
they like maybe there is no nook app for
00:48:53
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►
Windows 8 and maybe I guess that's
00:48:54
◼
►
probably the answer but I think that's
00:48:56
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►
probably it yeah but it just seems like
00:48:58
◼
►
poor coordination given that they're
00:49:00
◼
►
they're allied you know that they had to
00:49:02
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►
put a kindle app I mean like the hankie
00:49:05
◼
►
as popular as the kindle app for iOS is
00:49:07
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►
I really don't expect it ever to be set
00:49:09
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►
up on the the devil you have set an appt
00:49:11
◼
►
right then can you imagine being the guy
00:49:14
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►
at Microsoft just to call the guy at
00:49:16
◼
►
amazon and say hey could you give us a
00:49:18
◼
►
bunch of codes for for free for free
00:49:21
◼
►
books for our demo units or something
00:49:22
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►
like that or high water they just put
00:49:25
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►
free books on there or something
00:49:26
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►
yeah well why not just put the samples
00:49:28
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you know just somehow load them up with
00:49:30
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the you know what the sample you know I
00:49:32
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don't know there's gotta be some way to
00:49:33
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►
do it just put samples on there even if
00:49:34
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you want to be cheap and not you know by
00:49:36
◼
►
the 990 books for the things that's
00:49:39
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►
probably something that they thought of
00:49:40
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►
like an hour before and they're like oh
00:49:42
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shoot we don't have any actual books in
00:49:46
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►
I wonder whose job is it Apple to pick
00:49:48
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►
what music goes on the the iphones and
00:49:51
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►
ipods in the store
00:49:53
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►
yeah I wonder too i wonder if that comes
00:49:54
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►
from the store like is there something
00:49:56
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►
from the itunes store like to the iTunes
00:49:57
◼
►
Store get to pick like here's that you
00:50:01
◼
►
know here's the bead is it is it that
00:50:03
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►
let's put the stuff that is most popular
00:50:05
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or put the stuff that we want to be the
00:50:07
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►
most popular it's always an interesting
00:50:09
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mix like it's always there's always like
00:50:11
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some older stuff and some newer stuff i
00:50:14
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assume it's probably just a someone in
00:50:17
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the itunes division makes a playlist and
00:50:20
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when they do the the retail build
00:50:23
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get stuck in there yeah and it's you
00:50:26
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know it's true to that they pick which
00:50:27
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apps you know like games and stuff like
00:50:29
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that I feel like there's a it's probably
00:50:32
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a pretty interesting job actually
00:50:34
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there's all these little jobs at apple
00:50:36
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that I think are really fast like the
00:50:39
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you know that or the people who do that
00:50:42
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the packaging design that's got to be
00:50:44
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that's going to be kind of fun
00:50:47
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►
yeah definitely let's test out 17
00:50:49
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►
different plastics for the the insert
00:50:52
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and the new case or something like that
00:50:54
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writer or the cellophane that you wrap
00:50:56
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the device in right has to have the
00:50:59
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right to the right
00:51:01
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tearing characteristics and let me take
00:51:05
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a break here and do the second sponsor
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second sponsor today I'm so happy to
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have him back its global d-lite I don't
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know how these guys have so many apps
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but they have another great app i want
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to tell you about its la voi LA it's a
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comprehensive screen capture screen
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recording image editing and file sharing
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tool for the mac so it's a complete and
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perfect replacement for the built-in
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screen capture stuff and Mac os10 and it
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also does screen recording so you can do
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a screencast right from your Mac has a
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whole bunch of great features that make
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this it's just an all-in-one screen
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capture screen recording screencasting
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app you can capture anything on your
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desktop in any shape including a you can
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just do like a free hand shape or you
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can draw the shape of what it is you
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want to record you can capture entire
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web pages at once including the
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information like the URL the page title
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and stuff like that so instead of just
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taking a screen capture of the amount of
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the webpage that visible on your screen
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at once you can use the law to capture
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the whole page scrolling down at once in
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one picture two great feature so
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screencasting it lets you record videos
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record your audio as you can talk record
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the audio coming out of the apps as you
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play it and it has a whole bunch of
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video of image editing options so after
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you take a screenshot you
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can annotate it you can stamp you can do
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blurs and filters and stuff like that
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has a spotlight feature so you can
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highlight a section of the image or of
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the video that you want to draw people's
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attention to and when you're done when
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you have it working just as you want you
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can share right from the app the ftp
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SFTP flickr you can upload right to
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flickr from the app email of course
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youtube for the videos you can send them
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right there from the app the keyboard
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shortcuts are all customizable you can
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automatically have the last capture sent
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to the clipboard so that you can paste
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wherever you you know take a screenshot
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annotated and then it's ready to pace
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wherever you are wherever you go there
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running a sale right now on the odds of
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the sale goes til November eighteenth so
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we're recording right now on the eight
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November it's going to come out on the
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night so you got about a week when you
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listen to this and it costs just 999 go
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right to the mac app store or you can go
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to global delights website and buy it
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right from them at sixty-seven percent
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know bit.ly/b I tdot ly bit ly / the law
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screen capture voi LA screen capture all
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one word or just go to the mac app store
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and search for global delight you'll
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you've also got a 15-day trial now
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obviously are not going to get that from
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the mac app store version you'll go
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right to global delights website you get
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the 15-day trial great great app added
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unbelievable discount through november
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18 the law screen capture from global
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delight really cool app and for the the
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French speakers that would be voila
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yeah I sort of make it a habit to
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mispronounce every app name I like that
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it's a unique touch boiler boiler works
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yeah blah blah
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you see the the live episode I did from
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montreal i did the whole thing in French
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uh-huh i love that was good
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well i did two sentences in French I ran
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out of Iran out of friends
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hey how'd you get how'd you make out
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with Sandy you know I I don't want to
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brag but we did great
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I i was we we were a couple blocks from
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i live in a neighborhood in Brooklyn
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called dumbo or a block away from it so
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the the waterfront area got pretty
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wrecked and some of the restaurants that
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you know that we like to go to are not
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in business right now but we got pretty
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lucky here the power was on the whole
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time and the internet went out around
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midnight so I was like all right bedtime
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and woke up the next morning and it was
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back so but I of course i did was
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freaking out most of the time because
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our windows are these sliding doors and
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I was paranoid that they were going to
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collapse on us and then basically be
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sitting outside so I was not relaxed at
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all it was pretty terrifying but the the
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windows held up and we stayed dry so but
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it's crazy like the city really got
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messed up and I you know it's it kind of
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says something about our new york city's
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infrastructure and at the same time it's
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a little i don't want to sound glib but
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it's a little fun to go through these
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kind of at least before all the bad
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stuff happened like the whole preparing
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for the hurricane is kind of slightly
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fun experience but then once it happened
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this time it was really bad so there's a
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you know it's been I guess the most uh
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the most heartwarming thing has been to
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see how people who you know scared okay
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have been helping people who haven't
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been there's been a lot of effort to
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bring food to some of the places that
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got hit very hard a lot of the you know
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New York has of course is trendy food
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truck movement so a lot of the food
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trucks have been off serving food to
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people who actually need it and not just
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people who want it
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and that sort of stuff so yeah it was a
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weird experience I mean you know you
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know it's not like I'm living in miami
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or something that hurricane in New York
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City theoretically isn't supposed to
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happen very often and now we fed to in
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two years but doesn't it you know what
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it reminds me a little bit of yeah i
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just don't see how you can't be of of
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the aftermath of 911 of just the city
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coming together and people anybody you
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can help somebody else helping out yeah
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I wasn't here for that I was still
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living in Chicago but but yeah that's
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what a lot of people were saying it was
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obviously a different sort of tragedy
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and although it affected in terms of new
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york city proper be on Staten Island
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like lower manhattan which is where the
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world trade center was was hit you know
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what was arguably hurt the most by sea
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as well like a bunch of my friends who
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live down there basically don't have an
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apartment unit for the next several
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weeks or even months because you know
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the whole kind of lower tip of Manhattan
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was flooded and everyone's buildings got
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their power and messed with so just
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little things I remember I saw a thing I
00:58:11
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one of those slideshows just the other
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day where that in the Meatpacking
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District is it of classic Steakhouse old
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they've expanded love Vegas and Atlantic
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City branch now but it's really not been
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for like a hundred years the steakhouse
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in there are electricity's been out and
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so the freezers are out so they don't
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want anything me to go bad so they're
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just they were just cooking up all the
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steaks from their freezers and giving
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them two cops as you know cops came by
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any first responders who just come by
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you get a free steak from old homestead
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and they're just you know some guys are
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just taking amount you know put them in
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it and the cars you know the squad cars
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is they go and it's just a donut some
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about that i thought that was just grow
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this there's a lot of that you know
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whenever something messed up happens
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here there's a lot of that camaraderie
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and I think like crime tips a lot like
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there were I think a couple days with no
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murders or something like rat exactly
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although there were also supposedly
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people dressed up as power company
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people and then robbing oh that's the
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it's a pretty scummy oh god that almost
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makes me want to believe in hell just so
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that they could go there
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yeah but it wasn't so it works how do
00:59:21
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you live with yourself with that
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oh that's pretty bad but it is
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interesting like how the biggest kind of
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the biggest yeah you know now it's cold
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and kind of sucks to be without heat or
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something like that that week was still
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not so freezing and kind of biggest
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thing was that people just want to
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charge their phones and there were these
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kind of impromptu charging stations that
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were set up it banks and at restaurants
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and hotel lobbies and all this stuff and
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it was it was you know yeah come inside
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don't be don't be out in the weather but
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also charged up your iphone and that's
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something that you know I I guess wasn't
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so prevalent 10 years ago now i don't
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think so at all i do
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think so at all i do
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I think that's a big difference is the
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big blackout they had new york was like
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well alright where our apartment's dark
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and the TV's off but here it's we do
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have this connection to they do the
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world but it's running out of battery
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I that was interesting and I kind of
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like the voyeur and me was kind of
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tempted to go into the dark zone at
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nighttime and shoot some footage and
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that kind of stuff but i don't know it
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seemed a little little dicey so I i
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missed out on that one button next to
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the next year I'll get a change and next
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year's hurricane i did see a thing I
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should look it up put it in the show
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notes i saw device on on uncrate the
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other day it's a portable iphone charger
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and just like a lot of these other ones
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you can plug it in the wall on it
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it stores a charge and then you connect
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the USB cable to any I guess it you know
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as it's a USB out so you can charge
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anything that can charge over USB with
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this thing but it's the distinction is
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it has a fold-out hand-cranked so that
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in a pinch you can charge this battery
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by like turning the hand crank like a
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like a pencil sharpener and it's one of
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those things where like two weeks ago
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would have thought I mean what i mean i
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don't know i don't go camping i'm not
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buying that thing whereas now I'm
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thinking hey maybe I should have one of
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yeah is that like the new the new
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headlamp is like Hannah something that
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yeah I wonder how that's the idea I
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imagine that's kind of going to be a
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popular gift at least in the East Coast
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for Christmas this year that kind of
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stuff and god only I don't know I mean I
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you know maybe it takes 10,000 cranks to
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get a little bit of a charge i don't
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I you know in a pinch so in like
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citywide blackout I would do it i would
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absolutely do it i just sit there and
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turn that thing forever and I won't
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charge on my iphone they should soon
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I'll be an HTC phone with a built-in
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crank some someone will do that extent
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we have the hand crank er a unit
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yeah yeah and I do think you know I
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think that the you know I did the
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hierarchy of needs somebody a couple
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people have posted about this that
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obviously you know that it's kind of
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changed you know that obviously you want
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and shelter first electricity is maybe
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like above that and then you want you
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want connectivity right you want
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internet without you know it's all these
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poor people in New York couldn't play
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letterpress for a couple days
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honestly I i played probably about a
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hundred games and letterpress during
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that during the thing it was it was
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interesting like the the cell the cell
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towers of course have battery backups
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and that's how I guess the verizon LTE
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was on when the cable modem was off but
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eventually those gave out to I think
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verizon put them on faster though then
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that AT&T i want to say I'm not sure
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maybe maybe it has to do it
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they're being the local phone company
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here too i'm not sure what happened but
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it almost makes you wonder if there
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should be you know if those types of
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companies should be even thinking harder
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about this sort of stuff or if it was
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just a fluke thing and it'll never
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happen again i don't know that's the
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thing is you know you don't want to be
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too prepared for something that's not
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going to happen again so right or that
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you know next time it'll be something
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right right it's not the same thing same
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type of thing where you're you know
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everything is disrupted but the source
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of disruptions different like the
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underwear bomber well there's not going
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to be right the shoe bomber is not gonna
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be another shoe bomber again but that's
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all they want to think about his shoes
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so yeah well uh what one thing you you
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linked up a story that i think is
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interesting about virgin america
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ah maybe we should talk about that first
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yeah we could do that yeah you know as
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as kind of you know Mac Apple people we
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we've grown used to a world where our
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experience and you know and smart design
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is paramount to you know whatever else
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other features are out there and that's
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you know the story was that virgin
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america which is you know by many
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accounts the kind of smartest and best
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thought-out airline in the United States
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is still losing money like crazy and you
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know may not be financially viable due
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to a bunch of reasons you know that
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I industry just sucks to begin with and
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there's there's high cost of employment
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and fuel and all that sort of stuff but
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it makes you wonder you know is is the
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user experience the most important thing
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in and if it's not a sustainable
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business should you know can it can it
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yeah I it brings me back to this
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argument i've had over this word the
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word traction for years I've sort of
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been you know that that it's there's
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some kind of black magic and whether
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it's you're selling computers or cars or
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airline tickets that you know that you
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somehow key get to a certain point where
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you have traction and it's so much
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easier to keep going then whatever is to
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get in the first place and you know I
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think Apple suffered from this for a
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long time and I've said this before and
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I can never find the source because it's
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an old 9003 thing and but I'm i know
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that that I'm right that it was and I
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think Apple it's the I know that the
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basic story is right but the the source
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of it is confusing and I've never been
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able to find anybody out there can find
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the source for this I would thank you
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greatly and mention you on the show and
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Thank You profusely but the gist of it
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is that Apple Commission this survey in
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the nineties maybe like 96 97 or so and
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it it showed that of people going out
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get us retail can consumers who were
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going out to buy a personal computer
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that ninety percent of them never even
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considered buying a mac and that like of
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the percentage who did consider buying a
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mac like an unbeliever like forty
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percent of them wound up buying one you
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know and so like apples like four
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percent of the US retail market in like
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nineteen ninety-seven was like ninety
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percent of people who never even gave it
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a second thought never even looked at
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him and ten percent of people who did
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and forty percent of those people bought
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one and that the gist of it being that
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all they had to do is get more traction
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in the people's minds just get more
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people to consider buying a mac and that
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their their sales could go way higher
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which is exactly what i believe has
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happened and I think that's that ipod
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halo effect that people wondered about
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you know in 2002 2003 is that once
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people started going even just going in
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to an apple store to buy anything to buy
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a music player it open your mind maybe
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buying a computer from them and you know
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it's all it's all coming up milhouse for
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them ever since I just can't help but
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think that virgins in that same
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situation where people are just buying
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tickets on delta and american airlines
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and whatever else because that's what
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they've always done
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I just don't know what to me once the
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first time I took a flight on virgin i
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instantly knew that I would never ever
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again fly anything else if there was a
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virgin flight available
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I mean I go out of my way to fly virgin
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out like i'll fly to make the times
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because they don't have they only have a
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couple of flights a day in and out of
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philly so i will fly San Francisco to
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LAX LAX to philly to make it work rather
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and pass up you know dozens of direct
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flights from SFO to philly on other
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airlines because it's that much better
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it's so much better than that I don't
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even hesitate to fly with the like a
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layover in LAX and that's and that's
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interesting and that and I think Eric
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you know flight is such a weird market
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where people are are usually just
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sorting by price and that's it period or
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maybe they have like a very hard time of
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day requirement or something like that
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yeah and I know what is it
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I also know a lot of people who've
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gotten locked into airline X because
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they've got a gazillion miles right and
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platinum on American so all I flies
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American when I have the opportunity
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haha and I guess that's exactly why they
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instituted those those you know those
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mileage programs and that i know a
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couple of smart and a couple of friends
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who are you know never fly I've spoken
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to him specifically about virgin and
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that they say that they'd love to but
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they can't because you know one of them
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got delta miles and the other one scott
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i forget the other one but you know it
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doesn't matter one of the old
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traditional carriers and they're just
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like locked into it because of that and
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I I don't know for me it's so different
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and it just makes because you know I
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tend to fly when I do fly it's often
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from coast-to-coast it's from here to
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San Francisco so it's you know a big
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huge chunk of my day and spending it
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in a comfortable seat in a nicely lit
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cabin with really Pleasant everything
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universally every single fight I've
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taken truly truly pleasant flight
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attendants better food actually like
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you know it's kind of amazing and the
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other thing the other sense that really
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hits it is that it smells nice and a
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virgin airplane like the other airplanes
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it really makes you realize just how
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stinky the cabins are that mix of a
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burnt coffee and jet fuel and drive back
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we have farts around like farts and
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sweat or something that I don't know
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what they're doing it's in and it
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reminds me of like the difference
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between old casinos and new casinos like
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oh you want to an old casino and it's
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just this stink of you know like 1977
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sweat and cigarette smoke and that you
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know new casino really smells like wow
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that's a casino but it smells nice in
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here that's what versions like your
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index and middle of I'm sorry whether
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losing that the gist of it those that
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they're losing like three or four
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hundred million dollars a year and that
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you know people are saying that you know
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it's just that's just too much that you
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know maybe they got to start making
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money or the things going to dry up
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yeah and it's it's a different obviously
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the industry is a lot different in the
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financial situations are but reminds me
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a little of the old windows Apple
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problem which was everyone is so used to
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windows even if it's you know less
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elegant of an experience they can
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justify it because just because they're
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familiar with either because they're
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locked into it or something like that's
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the way it used to be
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it's just the way it is and uh and I've
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written this about even airplanes
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themselves like the the airline industry
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or the airplane industry that they need
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kind of their iphone moment we're seeing
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everything got reset you know right now
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they're kind of graduating from the the
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nokia symbian phone to the blackberry
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phone but there's no no they kind of
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need that inflection point where if you
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look at like the airline into that I
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want to get to DC on airline stuff but
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like you look at the the new planes
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they're designing like the 787 there
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they're like you know fifteen to twenty
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percent more fuel-efficient the seats
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are maybe a little you know more
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comfortable the TV is like an inch
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bigger but they're there isn't like that
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point where the experience is just
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vastly different and someone I think
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eventually we'll figure that out but i'm
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not sure what it is
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yeah i totally agree them and I don't
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know I'm surprised I i still have
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hundreds i just hope they have the
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patience to keep with it and that people
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catch on and it maybe they just need
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more couple more routes or something I
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don't know but it just it just doesn't
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add up to me maybe someday you can have
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an airline that would be I would I don't
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know I say it would be final price
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probably a terrible jump the Apple
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airline that would be a colossal waste
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of money then you know when to sell
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apple stock when they start doing that
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kind of stuff and the other thing I
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don't get on i just i just don't get on
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virgin is that they have first-class
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upgrades that are really really cheap
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like if there's open for seats in first
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class like day of the flight it's like
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you can be like just like a hundred and
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fifty box to upgrade and and there yet
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i've been on flights where I've done it
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I've gotten the first class upgrade for
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like a hundred fifty box and they're
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still open seats and like the the other
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cabinets full it's like one of my ID I
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don't know it just seems crazy to me
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that more people wouldn't wouldn't take
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advantage of it i think a lot of that is
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so they could just it you know if if if
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there are people on standby they can get
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more seats sold or or maybe just hook
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you into that experience like I've had a
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few free upgrades on American recently
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because i have so many miles and you
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know and I'm gonna in the Platinum
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program and now my crap had enough I can
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fly coach anymore course i have to write
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real business classes like way too
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expensive but I wish business classes
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where I was more like like Coach plus
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rather than first-class minus well it's
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funny because business class is and this
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is actually another like kind of
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parallel to the phone industry business
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class is so much more profitable than
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coach like you know maybe maybe like I
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don't know over half of the profits or
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maybe even more than that of a flight
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would be from the business class people
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if not like vastly more than that
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and it's the same thing like when when
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nokia was you know before the iphone or
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right after it was something like eighty
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percent of their profits came from their
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smartphones which were like ten percent
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of their phone sold so all those coach
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seats are kind of break even and then
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all the profit comes from the front of
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the plane so I wonder self west though
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which is all coach and profitable right
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so right so that's in southwest is still
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it's it's just their routes in and out
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of philly have gotten so inconvenient
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for me where all they don't they used to
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have a daily nonstop to SFO used to have
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one to SFO and 12 oakland and they've
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got rid of both of those so now the only
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way for me to go out west on southwest
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you know stop in Chicago which makes it
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a lot less appealing Vegas maybe I for
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cata faced i think they still have
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nonstops to vegas yeah and maybe I have
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to root through there
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that always makes me I don't like this I
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don't have a layover in Vegas that I get
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off the plane in Vegas that i wanna i
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wanna step right that was a one-time I
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remember last year i did that last year
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I was fine at the San Francisco pretty
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sure it was a Southwest i had and it was
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one of those continuations where I
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didn't even have to get out of the plane
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but we had enough time I wanted to go to
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the restroom and our get something to
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eat and I was like hey can I can I can
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quick run out of the plane and so I had
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five minutes in vegas nice the worst it
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was like just enough to like wet the
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perfect yeah southwest though is like
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flying in the giant bus
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I mean that then and they have the
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advantage where their staff is very nice
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they have trivia terrific service they
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have everybody people work for Southwest
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really like it it's you know there's
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like this very very generous stock
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ownership thing would be everybody works
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on southwest gets shares in the company
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and it really seems to invest them in it
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but it's really you know it's the
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coaches of coach and everybody you know
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you really are just in like a flying bus
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for four five or six hours that's and
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that's the prophets in the airline
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industry that and spirit spirit air so
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I agree though I i would like to fly
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everywhere virgin some days I'd like to
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I would like to just being a virgin
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plane just to work for the day just to
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go up a you could just go up flying
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around for a couple hours and let me get
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some work done in and then i'll just
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come right back to Philadelphia see
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there you go there's there there's the
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business is a just fly and they sit in
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the air all day and then go back down i
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do i find myself very productive on an
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airplane when i work during the day and
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it's I figured out why it's because with
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gogo internet it's and just not it works
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just well enough that i can use it to
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research things and look things up and
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it's way too flaky and slow to to really
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screw around on the internet and waste
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time so it just makes me very productive
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it's a very productive environment for
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for the type of work i do for linking to
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and writing about stuff
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yeah I've actually done some my best
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posts on go go except the only issue is
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that if you try uploading a photo they
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they totally degrade the quality of the
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jpeg they have some weird filtering and
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I was up looking horrible on your site I
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not only downloads but uploads to there
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are a man right and it is true I i bet
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you're the same way as me where we're
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complete isolation from the internet
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actually does make me less productive as
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a as a writer because i've i've just
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gotten used to say I don't know what
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this I don't know exactly what this term
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means any wikipedia it make sure i'm
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getting it right and if I can't do that
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it's like I feel lost I need a letter i
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need a little bit of internet to write
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well I and that's kind of to you know to
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come full circle I've set up my mini my
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ipad mini in a way that i can truly
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relax which is no email accounts on the
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ipad are so which is a bummer because
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sometimes i want to send an email and i
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have anything set up so maybe I'll just
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set up some AOL account something yeah
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but I see you I have the ipad mini and
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fold Zen mode so i might even
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uninstalled twitter because that's
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what's good for twitter so I'll just to
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hide it somewhere sometimes but without
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email i can really kind of you know
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really I i read a book this week which
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is something I haven't done in a long
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and it's been really great that says so
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it says a lot about our generation
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have you found your word my word yeah
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the word you're looking for
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no I don't know right its ok i just
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think it's telling that you're really
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proud of yourself for having read a book
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oh yeah it was good it was the Michael
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Lewis book about all the messed-up
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economies around the world
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I'll check it out now that's on my list
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somewhere now I gotta read the nate
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silver book because hopefully it'll make
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me smarter and it did he get all 50
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states this time and we had 49 so I
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think you got it i think you when I
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think you got 50 so now he's like 99 for
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the last hundred states he's gotta read
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he's gotta retire or he's got a hit like
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some insane goal next time maybe he'll
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well anyway thank you very much Dan from
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her for joining me this week this was a
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great show want to thank our sponsors
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