16: Big in Indonesia, with Om Malik
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we were at the Foo Fighters concert
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today that was fun i didn't know who
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fighters were you really didn't I did I
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i would just like who are these people
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I'm so used to you know some of the
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Steve Jobs people like norah jones and
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John Myatt was like who's van like I
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didn't know that was just gonna tell you
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how old I am
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hmm now that was a big one for me and
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i've i've come to a bunch of these were
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those guys and I like john meyer john
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mayer how do you pronounce it mayor he's
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John Mayer the CEO of Yahoo is marissa
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meyer right even though they spell it
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the same yeah I I appreciate him i do
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think he's like amazingly gifted
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guitarist like just amazing but I don't
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really love his music foo fighters is
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actually one of my favorite band so i
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was really kind of like blown away so
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they just really want to make you happy
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yeah now you know what I think it was to
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make my wife jealous because this was
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like the first time she's not really
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into all this stuff like maybe she wants
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a new iphone but she doesn't really care
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she's not really all that excited about
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apple and now today's the first time
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where she's like I think she was pretty
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jealous like i was there and she wasn't
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well I you know a lot of people enjoyed
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no I was just reading that's all
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so I'm here today joined by ohm Alec
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what's your title what is your title
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I'm just the founder of key go no title
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you're just don't ya oh and out you know
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one of things I want to talk to you
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about is you have now you it is your
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name your name is own it's just spelled
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om but that's your Twitter handle ya biz
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aren't you get a lot of garbage just
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because it's only two characters and all
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you have no idea i am big in Indonesia
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it's just like I have no idea what it
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means in the language they use their but
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it's like a very common phrase and like
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my my @ replies are pretty useless at
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this point i right because I forget who
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I know who has there's one guy I know
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who has one of the rare one character
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twitter names kevin chang yeah because
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he's got @k right right right and his
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his replies feed is it it makes your
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head brain almost blow up because it's
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just the most random gibberish it looks
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like somebody
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their cat was standing on a keyboard I
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should send you some of the screenshots
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i'll have to look for it
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yeah so own last week before we get to
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the apple stuff that we're at the apple
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event were recording live or not live
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really but together in the same room
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which is unusual for the talk show
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usually I do this over skype we're here
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together in the beautiful mule radio
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network studio here in San Francisco
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pretty awesome it is it's actually a
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very Swank setup but before we get to
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today's stuff I want to talk about last
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week now last week the three things that
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I thought I could think of there was a
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motorola had an announcement and to me
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that's sort of like in hindsight so like
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I who cares really i mean is just any of
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those phones memorable i don't think so
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i don't even know why some why they
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bother are times i think they should
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focus on one or two things instead of
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trying to do too many things all these
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company just do so much like four
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without any idea why they're doing it
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what is their market watch their
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approach it just as frustrating to see
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really smart people make bad decisions
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next up speaking of bad decisions
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nokia mm same day and that stuff broke
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last week while i had John Smoltz on the
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air we kinda are known as the amazon
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stuff that broken while we're on the air
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but anyway nokia announced their stuff
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two new phones and really it first
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everybody had a thing like well what's
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the shipping date and what's the price
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and then as like the days went on a kind
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of became clear that they don't even
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know i think the biggest sign for a
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company in distress and a product which
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is not going to work is when they don't
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let you touch it right like if you have
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a real product which is going to ship
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people can buy you let people check it
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out people use it they want to let
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people do it which tells me it is not
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happening anytime soon
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and guess what in announcing this
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whatever little sales of windows phones
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they were going to have they've killed
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right it really just seems bizarre
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like as bad as it would be if you were
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nokia and your phone isn't ready yet
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here on sep tember 12 2012 your phone is
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not ready at whether it's the software
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the hardware everybody's not quite ready
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and you have to sit here and watch apple
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unveiled the new iphone 5 and start
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selling it two days from now and
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shipping at nine days from now and watch
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all these sales rack up and you've got
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to sit there and wait until your thing
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I'd still would be better than what they
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did which is they made an announcement
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which did get a lot of attention but I i
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don't see if they're not going on sale
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until november i don't see how that it
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just seems like a disaster you called it
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i think you call it a shitshow yeah
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that's exactly what it did i do think
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that Nokia as a company whose expertise
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I've covered Nokia's and maybe 96 and
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like very faithfully I've always enjoyed
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their products love their phones
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I used to be the only reporter out there
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talking about Nicki Evans the the razor
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was the shit right and I always felt as
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a company they knew how to make great
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products they knew they had a great
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logistics in a team then you have to put
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products together get them out to market
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in time built to scale
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I don't know what happened ever since
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the new CEO came Stephen Elop the
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company's lost the ability to do just
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forget breathing the new software I can
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understand having crisis of confidence
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and your operating system in your
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product a unit roadmap but how can you
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not be able to ship the only thing you
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do you only make phone then you can get
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them out on time I mean somebody should
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be fired and it should start at the CEO
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and then the boat like I just think the
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whole board has to go because they're
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letting this screen and nonsense go on
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with an iconic brand of our time I love
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nokia and to see you die the way it is
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it just is unreal the last time I saw
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brand like this dye digital em remember
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yeah what a great laptops they used to
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take nobody bought them but it's the
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same thing with me and my opinion and
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then they got caught faking up the
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photos and videos from the device now
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and all kind of it is not excusable but
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it makes sense it's because the software
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wasn't ready
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you know so they had to make these
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promotional videos before the software
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but the whole thing is that they've
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rushed this announcement to the degree
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that they somehow convince themselves
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that it was okay to shoot a demo video
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showing the image stabilization of the
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video not using the actual phone itself
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you know because it's it's it's like
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that one bad decision to will come hell
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or high water we're going to announce
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that the first week of September whether
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it's ready or not leads to all of these
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other problems as a direct result like
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once you start with that that rotten
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decision now you've got phones that you
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don't let the press handle at the event
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you-you-you fake the camera stills and
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videos you've got a ship date that's two
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months out at maybe if they're lucky
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so the way I think about John I think
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it's they're working from position of
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weakness right they're always playing
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catch-up for him so they never really
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will catch up
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I think that's the problem they have
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done everything possible to try and
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catch up with apple and android and they
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haven't been able to and that's just as
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a problem right like instead of trying
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to like they're they have a lot of great
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people at nokia I still talk to many of
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the employees there's a lot of smart
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engineers and they're smart software
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people smart you I people i love many of
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the people i know that unfortunately the
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company's unable to leapfrog like its
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own you know short come i think it just
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is now we hit a point of just like it
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doesn't know how to go forward I think
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you just is stuck and like you said it's
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really it just comes down to simple
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execution that they they no longer seem
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able to ship a phone on time
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and and say we will about samsung
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samsung has come from a position where
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when the iphone ship five years ago was
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not one of the leading phone makers
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maybe by numbers but they weren't really
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a known for smartphones certainly yeah i
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think that the like somebody showed on
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Twitter the other day that the picture
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Steve Jobs showed of here's what today
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this is five years ago 2007 here's what
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today's leading smartphones look like
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and they all look the same and it was
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the Motorola was at the q i think i'm in
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the queue or the blackjack but was a
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motorola a palm a blackberry and a nokia
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those were the four and think about
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what's happening to all for those
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companies in the last five years palms
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out of business
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they're gone I rim is circling the
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motorola got sold to google I mean and
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really saw its you know leadership it in
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the handset numbers really diminish I
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mean they're really know where I mean
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they're not even the leading android
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handset maker I don't think it's even
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close and then nokia is the last one and
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boy it really seems like you know the
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only reason that they're not as in bad
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position as the other three is that they
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were so far ahead they had so much
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farther to fall so i think the the the
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game of you know smartphones is that a
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scale right like Apple s scale and
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Samsung as scale because they have scale
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they can introduce interesting complex
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technologies into their devices make
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them interesting and sell to the people
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and still make money whereas smaller
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companies are always working on
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razor-thin margins which which is really
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hard for them because they're always all
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these little guys are in position of
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weakness right like Samsung at scale
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because their own so much after the
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supply chain they they make the chips
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that you know the the screens that flash
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memory the whole nine yards right so
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they can bring scale there an apple as
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Bart the future supplies or so they have
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skills whereas all the other guys they
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don't have scale
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if they don't have a scale they don't
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have margin if you don't have margins
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you're not gonna be in the business I
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mean it just is there you know they're
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all on the long road to nowhere
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that's that's the bottom line right now
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and I think Nokia was the one company
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that really we should maybe even should
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still today being a position to have
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managed that sort of scale because
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they've shipped i think literally in
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their history billions of funds i think
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they've shipped over a billion phones
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I mean of some sort of you know some
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kind of mobile phones but maybe they're
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not smart phones but they know how to
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ship it scale people always part of them
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as a phone company they're actually a
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logistics company said they had the best
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logistics amongst all mobile phone
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makers that's why the event but they got
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addicted to making those cheap feature
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phones so much right that they forgot
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where the money comes from
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they just looked at the wrong numbers
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this is the classic spreadsheet
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jockeying which happens to companies i I
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just feel bad like there's just so many
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great people on the upside all these
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great engineers are leaving nokia and
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starting companies and thinking
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innovative things so that might actually
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help our their home country a lot more
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in the future right like maybe they're
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just as the talent broken at ya doing
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new things I think finland has some of
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the best engineers so you could see some
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interesting innovation coming out of
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there i just heard from somebody who's
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making some kind of an electric racing
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car and they're from being a friendly
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and they're going to come see me in a
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couple of weeks pretty fun to see what
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they're doing
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I think it and you know one of the
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things with its fun about getting
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together for an event like this when I
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fly in to town I get to see a bunch of
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people i don't see on a regular basis
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face-to-face is you know we just started
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geeking out talking you know phones
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phone stuff for you know whatever's on
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our minds and i'll tell you what i mean
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everybody has talked to today I mean
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it's almost unanimous they'll say
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everybody feels bad about Nokia's future
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and feels that they've really botched
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the this year's new Lumias these that
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they do know that the timing is just off
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they botched it but everybody it's
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almost unanimous agrees that they're the
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only company that is competing with
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apple in terms of quality of fit and
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finish for the devices that
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before you even turn it on and talk
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about the software just the phone is off
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it in your hand it's arguably be you
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know as good as any phone in the market
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always has to be right every i still
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have all my nokia phones
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I don't want to throw each one of them
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away like I love they did the port this
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still work like nothing has gone wrong
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yeah you don't have one of them you gave
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me you sent me 70 and several years ago
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I never sent it back to you
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that's okay you can have very consented
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to the cellphone museum or something and
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then the other big announcement last
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week was amazon now there's a company
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who I think I really think that they
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have their act together and you wrote
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something nice on
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I like the pc wrote on your your own dot
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co website which is amazingly short URL
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yeah it's kind of awesome but you said
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it was pretty short but you more or less
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just said that you think Jeff Jeff Bezos
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is the the heir-apparent to steve jobs
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in the industry
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it was a little uncomfortable thing to
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write right you know I was like a virgin
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you know having being an Apple watch her
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for a long time I felt a little queasy
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writing that because you know there is
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one steve jobs but i think there is only
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one chef measles there's very few people
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like him who are willing to be wrong in
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public I steve was willing to take
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chances and that's what made him steal
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like you know yes he was a perfectionist
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and all those things and Jeff is willing
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to take chances on things which may look
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completely outrageous like you know you
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know seven years ago
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amazon web services from amazon cloud
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services to make much sense to a lot of
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people but it made sense to him and his
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team and look how they're changing the
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economics of startups and same thing is
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with kindle when the kindle came out the
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idea of like who wants to read the
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e-book readers were like so maligned at
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that time right and the cab trying and
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trying to the garden right and i think
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this is what I like about them is that
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they believe in something in the long
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they actually try i wish they made more
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money like Apple but hey that's another
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story for another day
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yeah they've obviously got some kind of
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they've got a plan in that regard I
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don't know what it I don't see it but
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they've you know they're clear
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I guess the way I put it is that they're
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not making that much in profit but they
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don't seem to be trying to make much in
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profit it's not like they're trying and
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falling short it seems like they're kind
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of shooting for this growth and revenue
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growth and kind of just get enough
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profit to keep it in the black all right
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that seems to be their goal and that's
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what they're hitting it seems like a
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weird strategy to me but it does it
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doesn't seem like they're failing right
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you know i like what you don't like
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which was like way which is actually
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pretty insightful that that Jeff Bezos
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is special mostly because he's not
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trying to reach steve jobs but I think
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like a lot of people forget that being
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original is much harder than being a
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copy guy right like you're never gonna
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be the next Bob Dylan if you're trying
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to make your voice sound like Bob Dylan
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like you've got to make your voice sound
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as unique as bob dylan's you know this
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it's the only way and so it's a weird
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way like the only way to be like steve
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jobs is to not be like steve jobs but to
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have his sort of aspects of his
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personality like that you see these
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things that nobody else sees and you
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don't care if everybody thinks them
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they're wrong if you think they're right
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you're just going to pursue it
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dogged Lee until you get it done and I
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totally see that with with basis i also
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like agree with what you say where he's
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not afraid to be wrong and if he is he's
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gonna fix it or try to fix it at least
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and not just go into denial and pretend
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he's not wrong so I thought for example
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with the kindle fires last week watching
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after having watched the announcement
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event I almost didn't say was wrong but
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I kind of think he did it seem like
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maybe he took the criticism to heart
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that the last year's kindle fire was
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really rather poorly reviewed as it just
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as a gadget in terms of the interface
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and and how laggy the screen is
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and so I feel like he really emphasize
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that a couple times in the any event
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last week where he said last year we
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tried to be the best tablet at a certain
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price this year we're trying to be the
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best tablet at any price
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you know I never really you know they
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put the work in and put in a really nice
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IPS display with a really nice at least
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retina dish quality resolution he said
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you know they know you they said the
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event that the likeness is not there but
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I saw it you know seems like the reviews
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are little mix from the people who had
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hands-on but at least they're trying
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right i mean I i played with it for
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about 20 hours i had it for three days
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the new one the kindle fire that sent
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you one but another i wrote a review as
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well I'm actually a pretty balanced view
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in my in my opinion had I never used an
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ipad and had an ipad not existed it
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would actually be okay device to buy for
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me i'm not talking about other people i
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I am so I I you I use iPad as my primary
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computer so imma just a little bit
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biased in that sense however there's a
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lot of challenges the silk browser isn't
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up to snuff there is a lag it mean and
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it's perceptible but like the email
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client is like pretty shoddy however if
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amazon digital content buyer like I am
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man that thing is pretty good like you
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know the books are quick to you know
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access amazon cloud player is pretty
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awesome the amazon prime is with videos
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is great like I'll all those things are
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great it's an easy to hold in your hand
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you know it the battery life is pretty
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decent the Wi-Fi is pretty decent
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however it i just feel that for all
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those purposes $200 is just too much i
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think they should be at giving it away
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to people who have amazon prime for free
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I wonder if I wonder how strong and
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where they must have thought about that
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or at least at least offered it at a
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profound discount too and I know that he
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said explicitly during the event and
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you afterwards basis that they reject
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that razors and blade business model
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where you lose money on a selling the
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thing up front and then make it up by
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selling you know the blades and serrated
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in the tech industry that's the printing
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model right you sell the printer at a
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ridiculously low cost and then you make
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all of your money by selling
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ridiculously overpriced in container
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I mean HP even sells paper i'm out i
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wonder how much paper h peace sells but
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by selling the stuff that you put in the
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printer and he says that they reject
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that so that they price things to the I
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I get the feeling like what he's saying
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is that in terms of like when you buy a
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kindle fire from amazon they make about
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as much money on it as they do when they
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sell you anything on amazon a little bit
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little bit of profit right well I
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thought you know it would make sense
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that if you buy a lot of books like I do
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by a lot of books from them and it would
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make sense for them to make me more
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addicted to buying books on kindle fire
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by creating an even more addictive
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buying experience and I think if they
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kill their business model around that
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this thing could actually be pretty ok
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for them in my opinion I do like what
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they've done so far though I you know I
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wouldn't dismiss it
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I have a lot of respect for that company
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they haven't copied Apple they haven't
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just followed the android heard they've
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done their own think and I think that is
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that has to be larger you have to
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applaud people who are trying to do
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something different and on top of that
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they're actually putting a product out
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in the market which can actually buy and
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not not like talk about it that's it
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it's so funny that we have to praise
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them for the hell yea me I it so it's so
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frustrating as that for the longest time
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I've always wondered like why do you
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call your event a launch event when the
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product is not in the market like just
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say we are announcing this product
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that's it end of story is just it's like
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it's my pet peeve units been and it's
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not since today like almost in 15 years
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I've always wondered like okay maybe my
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understanding of English language is
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very literal but that doesn't make any
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sense to me right and it almost comes
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back to the literal meaning of the verb
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launch right where if if there's like a
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ship and you're going to have that
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ceremony where you break the champagne
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bottle against it and like people want
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to see the boat going down water nothing
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you know if it's shrinking it's okay or
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like a launch event for like NASA you
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know it's like people want the rocket
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ship to go up in the air that you don't
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want to see just well you know be ready
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in a couple of yeah i will let you know
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thanks for coming now yeah alright now
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alright let me away you know one more
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thing on amazon is is the other thing
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that struck me and as the week is gone
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on it really seems and today's apple
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event sort of clarified it even further
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with the second half of the event today
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is just how us-centric amazon's
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approaches at least for now
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like they really only sell the candles
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in the u.s. especially the kindle fire
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and the reason why and at this baffled
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me last year I was definitely lost I
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just thought maybe they just didn't have
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their act together but now I see that
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it's it's it's not because the they
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don't want to sell the kindle or kindle
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fire to anybody they only want to sell
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the kindle fire to someone who is likely
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to buy a lot of music and books and TV
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shows and so if you live in a country
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where they don't have movies and TV
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shows they don't want to stay won't even
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say the device because they're not going
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to make money i do think this set of
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Kindo readers across the world yeah the
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reader i guess they do and I guess
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that's because the the right to books
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are so much less entered tangled with
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stupid bullshit and laws as movies and
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music music and movies are our way more
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region control i mean just think about
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the way DVD's work with the stupid the
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the region coding so you can even play
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the same DVD in one country is another
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the one thing you know i will upload
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amazon for that they were not a gadget
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company 34 years ago maybe five years
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ago now there are full-on gadget company
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and kind of pretty telling how much they
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have some other cool stuff you know what
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they're working on down and who
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patina yeah and they also a couple of
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years ago we're not really a digital
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content company either i mean they
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really started as I mean I I'm soul i
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still think of them as starting as a
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bookstore that all they sold was books
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but just brought a little bit they
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started as an online retailer warehouses
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full of physical goods and a website
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where you could find them by them easily
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and review them and then you know two
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days later is knock on your door and
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there's the thing but i'm i'm curious
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how hard they're working on expanding
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the movies and TV shows and stuff like
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that to more countries like Apple has I
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i would think that they must but maybe
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that's just a much harder problem that
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i'm thinking i think it's a pretty
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complex problem and they are there are
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they are in UK now so and they are in
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Europe they're making headway there
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they're competing with netflix in the
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inn in Europe but it's not that easy i
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mean we like to think it's very easy but
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the right so now it's a mess and you
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know i would i would give them full
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marks for trying and you know in a year
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the this is the great thing about Amazon
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the Amazon of today is going to be very
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different you know from the Amazon off a
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year ago and next year it will be an
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entirely different thing I think that's
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one of the things which i like about
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that companies to lick the ability to
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constantly change and totally see that
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when i take a break right here and I'm
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gonna die I'm going to tell you about
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our first sponsor our first sponsor back
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from last week is Frank & oak Franken
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oak is a online retailer that helps men
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look good they sell quality stylish
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clothes at great prices everything they
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have everything is fifty dollars or less
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stuff looks great now anybody listen the
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last week's show and heard their
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sponsorship many of you tried to go to
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their website which is brand-new and you
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couldn't get in they got overwhelmed
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that's part of the reason they're back
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on the talk show again is because they
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were so happy with the demand but they
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don't fit into those slim card church
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like it you're very stylish man i'll
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definitely check them up
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yeah you're a watch guy to I am I my
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love watches
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yeah you always have an interesting
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watch yeah i like i like you a little
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life you need to have a little analog
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you know we had to digital in our lives
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yeah I where I were an analog watch as
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well I like our traditional stuff I like
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people to make things with hands and you
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know the craftsmanship is it something
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we need to celebrate in our society we
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just start like so mechanized and so
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mass-produced that we don't appreciate
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the little things people do their hand I
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i totally agree with that I feel like
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it's like everything like i always feel
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like it's at the extremes that
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everything is most interesting at the
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biggest or the smallest you know the
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newest stuff the oldest stuff that's
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is most interesting and I feel like
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that's a good point I I kind of feel
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like the stuff like the iphone where
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there's like 20 million of them on a
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ship airplane coming out of China that's
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interesting but like a watch that was
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put together by hand
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you know by a guy just putting all these
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putting this whole thing together piece
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by piece that's fascinating to III go
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look for all vintage watches I like I
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spend a lot of time looking for that
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that's one like my one like I gave up
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smoking drinking so i gotta do something
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and I have some kind of everybody needs
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advice like yeah so
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antique watches what I look for ya so
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let's let's get into today's apple event
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and while we're talking about watches
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let's do it in in sort of the opposite
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order Apple did where I the one day I
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came away thinking and I don't I can't
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ever recall an apple event that was
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point like this where it really was to
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events it was two very distinct events
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separated way like a half time where the
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first event was iphone 5 with Phil
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Schiller and Scott Forstall and then
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that was it and actually almost felt
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like it was over missouri mo I thought
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maybe it was over I really did when Tim
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Cook came back out and then he says now
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we're going to talk about ipods and
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music and jaws comes out and Eddy Cue
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come out and it was like a second event
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so let's do that one first let's do the
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ipod and itunes in the music stuff first
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because one of the casualties of today's
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announcement the new ipods is that whole
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market of using an ipod nano as a
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wristwatch because they've gotten rid of
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that that that sort of watch sighs nano
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I don't know that that was a very big
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market I think it was a big market they
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wouldn't have gotten rid of it but it
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it's one thing like a hawk couple people
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cooks filing out of the the hands-on
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area like everybody sort of had a wait a
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minute isn't this this means all those
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wristwatch things are dead are I would
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say there's a premium on them now
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mmm think in those terms that's the
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thing with watches the older they get
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the raider they become more expensive
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they get so maybe you should run to the
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store and get a couple of those nanos
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did you did you ever try wearing an Anna
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was watching that it's too digital from
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right like I'm not like i have enough
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digital watches around me that I don't
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need another one on my wrist
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i bought the one on Kickstarter I think
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it was the tick-tock na and i bought it
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knowing that I wasn't gonna like it
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i bought it because i wanted i thought
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it was a great idea and i just love the
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idea of a couple of guys making her own
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hardware and you know I just like I just
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love the night sometimes I back
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Kickstarter projects that i don't really
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want myself but I just want them to
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succeed that's why did and I I tried it
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and it's you know it failed for the
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exact reasons that I thought it would is
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I can't stand having a watch where the
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time isn't always displayed you have to
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hit a button to wake it up it's like
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that defeats the whole point if I was
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willing to do that i would just take my
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phone out of my pocket and hit a button
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which is what everybody who doesn't wear
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a watch does to find out what time is
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right I i do the same thing and
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Kickstarter I just support a lot of
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projects in a most like sometimes I look
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for electronic music project gadgets
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whatever it's just I kind of feel it's
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the same thing i have about our
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traditional stuff that is very few
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people who are very creative in this
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world we have to support them and you
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know I had that watch them do the trick
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for me i dunno people bought them like
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in by the Lord's and and i love the tik
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tok guys they're pretty creative punch
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card Wilson is the name I think he's
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just such a great designer like that
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product he did was just awesome
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yeah I don't know I think maybe maybe it
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can come back after if you you know few
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years they can bring it back that the
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ipod nano or something
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I know there's a lot of talk about the
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variable in a wrist computing and like I
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just wonder if like we might see you
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come back and I partner i wonder i don't
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know i see i think that was the other
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problem the other fundamental problem
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with that whole idea of wearing a nano
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as a wristwatch was that the nano
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because it wasn't designed for that
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didn't have any kind of wireless
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connectivity you know like I feel like
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the whole idea
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it falls short if it doesn't have any
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actual a digital information on all the
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head was time really and you know then
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songs that you had already loaded on it
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whereas announced its slipping my mind
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right now but I've already back then
00:33:26
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there's a kickstarter project for this
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let's have 0 what is called pebble
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pebble that's it right the pebble watch
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which uses like this it's not quite the
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ink but it's like II think so its low
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power and it can stay on all the time
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but it uses bluetooth so that it can
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communicate to smartphone and stuff like
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that again I don't know that i'm going
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to really love that pebble watch I think
00:33:49
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it's too big i kind of don't really even
00:33:51
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like digital watches i kinda like an
00:33:53
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analog watch but i did i've supported
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them because I do want to see them drive
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and I love the idea of a small start-up
00:34:00
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taking a shot at a big problem like that
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but I feel like they're on the right
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track in a way that the Nano is a watch
00:34:06
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never could be because it actually has
00:34:07
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the bluetooth and is communicating you
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know you're getting data i think these
00:34:12
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states if you're making devices and they
00:34:14
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don't have networking like they don't
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have connectivity built into them
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they're pretty pointless
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I just feel pretty strongly about that I
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I don't really like one of the biggest
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one of the things i have is the sony
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camera sony nex-5 and it doesn't have
00:34:31
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built-in Wi-Fi and I have to use like I
00:34:35
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Phi and all those other hacks to you
00:34:38
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know make it work and it just is like
00:34:39
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it's just not a seamless experience i
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wish they had and which is why i always
00:34:44
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end up using my iphone for taking
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pictures just because it's just so much
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more convenient you can just take
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pictures and boom share them upload them
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to whatever i think that's that's the
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key difference is sort of agree with
00:34:59
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what do you think of the the new ipods
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today so I love the the new I ipod touch
00:35:07
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they introduce my money my nephews and
00:35:11
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nieces are getting that instead of
00:35:13
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getting an iphone i was considering
00:35:16
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sending them an iphone but i think the
00:35:19
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ipod touches just just a good option and
00:35:22
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i think it could have a pretty serious
00:35:26
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his impact on the at home gaming
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business the consult
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I like it gets pretty ready it's very
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powerful it has airplane built into it
00:35:38
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it can have an impact like you know if
00:35:41
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they could do if Apple could sell the
00:35:45
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ipod TV for cheaper like four forty nine
00:35:48
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dollars right they could actually have a
00:35:50
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serious console competitor I literally
00:35:54
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like that the the other the ipod nano i
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don't know like I'm not I've never
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really cared for that product and this
00:36:04
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I'm not all that impressed by i think
00:36:06
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one of the things that's interesting is
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so one of the things I've seen already
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and you know with there wasn't really
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much of a surprise with the iphone five
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but now that we've seen its official
00:36:17
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here's what it really is and there's
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sort of the backlash against it the the
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negative take that I've seen is its
00:36:23
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there's nothing new here it's just the
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same thing it was but better and I say
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duh thats you know when you have like
00:36:31
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the most popular product in the history
00:36:33
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of the tech industry you know you
00:36:35
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probably don't want to change it that
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much but as much as the iphone i really
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do think you could argue and I don't I i
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don't mean that I mean this is a
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compliment not as a complaint that it's
00:36:45
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the exact same idea is the original
00:36:47
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iphone from five years ago just improved
00:36:50
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year over year over year one year at a
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time faster better screen thinner
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lighter you compare that to the ipod
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nano where it really when they showed
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the history of the device it's like they
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really are all over the place you know
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in form factor and dimensions and even
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in terms of like just what is it meant
00:37:12
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for like is shouldn't be able to play
00:37:15
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video and it didn't and then it did and
00:37:17
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then didn't and now it does again it's
00:37:20
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like that that's a pretty big feature
00:37:21
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that they just keep you know that
00:37:23
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they're they're using the same name but
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they're really inventing like all new
00:37:26
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products for this thing every year to
00:37:28
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right yeah you're right about that i was
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surprised by the use of color yellow
00:37:35
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it's like what's with the yellow man
00:37:37
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like I mean I'd like I
00:37:38
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don't want yellow device I'm sorry yeah
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I would never buy we have to say yellow
00:37:42
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would probably be the last one I would
00:37:44
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buy like you have to be really special
00:37:46
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person to buy yellow device i want to do
00:37:48
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they call it yellow i'm not even sure
00:37:50
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they call you or do they call it gold
00:37:51
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whatever they might call it some
00:37:53
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ridiculous name but it's still yellow
00:37:56
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yeah I you know so one thing which the
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observation i had of the event today
00:38:01
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especially from the ipod spectrum is
00:38:05
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that how much of the unification of
00:38:08
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design and manufacturing process and
00:38:10
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materials has happened across all apple
00:38:14
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products they vary anodised aluminium
00:38:16
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very simply a very the lines are very
00:38:20
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laser card ready straight everything has
00:38:23
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that uniformity I think that's something
00:38:26
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very unique this time I saw which is
00:38:29
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pretty interesting i think the only
00:38:31
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thing which actually looks out of place
00:38:33
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now at the ipad yeah maybe a little bit
00:38:36
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the ipad one was actually more closer to
00:38:40
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this design language than the new one
00:38:44
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yeah and one thing with the with the
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iphone and the ipod touch for the first
00:38:50
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five years up until today if you looked
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at them straight on when they did look a
00:38:54
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lot like the same thing you know it's
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the same exact sort of thing but when
00:38:59
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you turn around look at the back
00:39:00
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they looked totally different yeah
00:39:02
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although always from the beginning where
00:39:04
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the ipod touch always had this sort of
00:39:06
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classic ipod shiny metal back like the
00:39:12
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the fingerprint smudge material and the
00:39:16
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i phone always had is buried you know
00:39:20
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the original one was that bead blasted
00:39:22
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the lunar morever and then there were
00:39:23
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the two years where they had the black
00:39:24
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plastic and and now it was glass with
00:39:30
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the iphone 4 and 4s but now they seem to
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be like you said there's a very the
00:39:35
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colors are different but there's a very
00:39:37
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similar material aesthetic right you
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know the same exact aluminum so somebody
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I spoke to like not you know it's like
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not I I don't know enough to kind of
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write a blog post
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it's about it but apparently I'm told
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that Apple currently has some of the
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best materials engineers in the world
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working for it i would be surprised by
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that and that is why you can see this
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uniformity like so they've actually just
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as they spend a lot of money making
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their own chips they have spent a lot of
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time making their own like material
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decision and you can see it like i can
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and and the the the Retina Display
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MacBook Pro is actually like the
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epicenter of this design language of
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this product design language which is
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something very unique i haven't seen it
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in many other products except maybe I've
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seen it like when when you look at the
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high end cars they do that they are very
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similar materials to use
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across-the-board like companies once it
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started using carbon fiber it starts to
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become part of their whole manufacturing
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process so that's one thing i noticed in
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in this presentation today
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yeah did you catch the part in the the
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design video for the iphone 5 where they
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talked about the diamond cutter
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yeah that cuts the they called the Sham
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fur here that slight edge slight
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diagonal edge that takes the sharpness
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of the the sides and it when you look at
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that part of the phone it's it's really
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kind of stunning it it's just this tiny
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little edge and it is so impossibly
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shiny actually looks shinier than the
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glass you know it's it's amazing like
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they have done such interesting work on
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on manufacturing production materials i
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wish i could talk to those guys
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yeah they just never let you talk to the
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night there just aren't like that is in
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my opinion that is the real work
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Apple doing Nov we get all caught up in
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the features an hour faster processors
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but I get totally excited about all
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these like you know manufacturing
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nerdiness a little bit like that i think
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the ipad i'm sorry the IP
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hard nano is an interesting product I I
00:42:10
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just him not something i'm going to
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think about a lot
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no not mean I will say this though too
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though it now that it has a slightly
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bigger screen i know that the you know
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the last year's model had the the iOS
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style interface but now that has a
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bigger screen and it has a home button
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it really does feel like a tiny little
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iphone and it's not running iOS as far
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so far as anybody knows i think it's the
00:42:36
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same embedded OS is the old nanos but
00:42:39
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it's so clearly shares the same physics
00:42:43
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algorithms as iOS like when you're in
00:42:46
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the settings app and you get scroll down
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and you get to the bottom the bounce is
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like it's the iphone bounce and when you
00:42:52
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stretch at the top of a scrolling list
00:42:54
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it stretches the exact same way that
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list i mean it it could not feel more
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like iOS i mean that's that's the
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experience they have to offer like
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across-the-board otherwise like what's
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the point of having a design philosophy
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and design language when all your
00:43:11
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products are not unified around that do
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you think it would make sense in a year
00:43:15
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or two if they could to make a device
00:43:17
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like that the ipod nano but that did run
00:43:21
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iOS so they could open up apps for it
00:43:23
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yeah I think they should do that and in
00:43:27
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fact connectivity should be part of it
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like I just believe no apps
00:43:32
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let's say this is the lie this is I've
00:43:34
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been talking about this for a long time
00:43:36
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in order for a device to be successful
00:43:38
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it has to have two elements it has to
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have connectivity and it has to have
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usability usability comes from services
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in case of Apple those services are apps
00:43:50
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and connectivity is what makes those
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services alive and more services you
00:43:57
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have more you use your device
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the more you use it the more you wanted
00:44:02
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more likely to break it or by an upgrade
00:44:04
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so that's key think that's the the
00:44:07
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philosophy they need to have i'm pretty
00:44:09
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sure that's the philosophy they have we
00:44:11
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just don't know i don't think that you
00:44:13
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would ever want to type on a device like
00:44:15
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that like I think it would have to be
00:44:19
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the iphones version of iOS running
00:44:21
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smaller it would have to be like a new
00:44:23
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branch you know in a way that there are
00:44:25
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ipad apps and iphone apps they would
00:44:28
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have to be like nano apps grano for lack
00:44:30
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of a better what I don't think you don't
00:44:32
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need many apps you just had ipad sorry
00:44:35
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I've ipod nano with the networking with
00:44:37
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the Wi-Fi connection right with city
00:44:40
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right City play this song I mean yeah
00:44:42
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voice voice as your input instead of a
00:44:44
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keyboard I think games could be
00:44:46
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interesting on it but like information
00:44:49
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status information stuff like that
00:44:51
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I i do that i think the form factor is
00:44:53
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interesting but as it stands its you
00:44:55
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noticed I i do think this is one big i
00:44:59
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would say Apple as a little lagging as a
00:45:01
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company is that they don't think of
00:45:04
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services as engagement right like sound
00:45:09
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like you know how the facebook people
00:45:10
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send you these stupid notifications all
00:45:13
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the time so you keep using facebook even
00:45:16
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though you know you hate it they have
00:45:18
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worked really hard and making us
00:45:20
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dopamine addicts and Apple needs to kind
00:45:22
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of work on something similar to keep
00:45:25
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people using those devices all the time
00:45:27
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I just like that's my at least that's
00:45:30
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how I think about it and the I the new
00:45:34
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ipod touch it is so remarkably thin
00:45:37
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I mean did you did you did I did play
00:45:40
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with it for like two minutes like that
00:45:41
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too many people I I never heard it was a
00:45:44
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lot less crowded around the ipod touch
00:45:45
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than the iphone so i spent more time
00:45:47
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with the ipod touch
00:45:49
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it's it's so impossibly thin
00:45:53
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yeah it really is and people were saying
00:45:55
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over and over again that they kind of
00:45:56
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couldn't believe that it was this is the
00:45:58
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action this is what really it's like
00:45:59
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it's almost like hard to believe
00:46:01
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hey it'sit's you can touch it you don't
00:46:03
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have to hide it behind a glass and and
00:46:08
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I'm a little so I'm a little surprised
00:46:10
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and I know that it leaked out before the
00:46:11
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event and that there were some whispers
00:46:13
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over the last week like 9to5 mac had it
00:46:15
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and they they always get it from these
00:46:17
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►
sk use that go into the apple retail
00:46:19
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system and that when these sk use for
00:46:23
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new ipods show up it's a really it's
00:46:25
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almost like a sure sign that the new
00:46:26
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ipods are coming very soon but the
00:46:29
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reason I found it hard to believe and I
00:46:31
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was a little skeptical all the way up
00:46:32
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until they actually
00:46:33
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announced it was that i still i found it
00:46:35
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unusual to announce the ipod touch with
00:46:38
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the new foreign screen and and radical
00:46:41
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new you know major new features at the
00:46:43
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same time as the iphone that it's based
00:46:45
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on I I didn't even think they were gonna
00:46:50
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be I apart touch update now I well I'd i
00:46:54
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wasn't sure i don't know but it and one
00:46:56
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reason why and it's not that it makes
00:46:58
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the I the new iphone 5 look bad but it's
00:47:03
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like the the ipod touch was always
00:47:05
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thinner than the iphone because it you
00:47:06
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►
know there's all sorts of antennas they
00:47:08
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don't need to include and I guess it
00:47:09
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►
probably needs the smaller battery
00:47:11
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►
because it doesn't have to power those
00:47:12
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antennas so I've always thought boy
00:47:16
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wouldn't be want to be able not even
00:47:18
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wouldn't but won't because I know Apple
00:47:20
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moves towards thinner and lighter want
00:47:23
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to be great when the iphone is that then
00:47:25
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in light and that's what the new iphone
00:47:27
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5 is it is thin light as the old ipod
00:47:29
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touches and immediately they've already
00:47:32
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up the bar with these new ipod touches
00:47:35
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which our way thinner and in just call
00:47:39
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it I almost hesitate to say to light but
00:47:42
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but if there is such a thing as
00:47:43
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something that's too light it's it's
00:47:44
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these things they almost feel like they
00:47:46
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wouldn't fall at the full rate of
00:47:48
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gravity so I phone 5.5 really be pretty
00:47:51
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10 like it would be ten like this like
00:47:55
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the word the current iphone 5 right but
00:47:57
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it will have a lot of things which would
00:47:59
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►
be different and the number one thing
00:48:01
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which will be different will be the
00:48:03
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battery i can tell you they are going to
00:48:05
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spend next 12 months focusing on battery
00:48:09
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►
power they they are I know their apple
00:48:13
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people have been talking to a lot of the
00:48:14
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battery companies and technologies and
00:48:17
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they've been doing a lot of research and
00:48:19
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they're not alone a lot of companies are
00:48:21
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but that would be there many of focus
00:48:25
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and the lessons they learn from the ipod
00:48:27
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►
touch usage are going to help them make
00:48:30
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the ipod iphone battery in a act more
00:48:35
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smartly because it's a lot it's like
00:48:37
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►
software and battery design and they
00:48:39
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will need to figure that one are you
00:48:41
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know and the reason i bring that up is
00:48:43
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►
that two years ago apples biggest week
00:48:47
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miss was its radios like wireless radios
00:48:51
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night and then in two years and what
00:48:53
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they launched today people have
00:48:55
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completely glossed over like how
00:48:57
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difficult it is to support so many
00:49:01
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►
different standards in such a 10 device
00:49:04
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►
using a very smart networking video
00:49:08
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►
networking technology that that is
00:49:10
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happening last two years and I think
00:49:12
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►
their work systematically on it I think
00:49:14
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that's what I find impressive it is not
00:49:18
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something people glom onto but it's a
00:49:21
◼
►
very hard challenge and battery is the
00:49:23
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►
next hard challenge so yes in two years
00:49:27
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►
you will have an iphone which will be
00:49:29
◼
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like as tender than I part touch and it
00:49:32
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►
will have the same battery power
00:49:34
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probably more than what we have today I
00:49:37
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i lied i do believe that their next big
00:49:40
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breakthrough is going to be on batteries
00:49:42
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I wouldn't be surprised it's got to be
00:49:43
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►
because it has to be
00:49:45
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I know it is it's the biggest thing
00:49:46
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►
inside the phone okay and so if they you
00:49:49
◼
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know it's going to be the sticking point
00:49:51
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toward getting them smaller and lighter
00:49:54
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I mean that is one thing that when you
00:49:55
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put it in hand and you know it it's
00:50:00
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obviously you pulled in your hand it
00:50:03
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►
does feel taller than your I've then the
00:50:05
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old iphones and it definitely feels like
00:50:07
◼
►
the top of the screen is farther away
00:50:08
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but side to side because it is the same
00:50:12
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size as the iphone it still feels like
00:50:14
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the iphone form for us and to me it's a
00:50:16
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much more comfortable size just holding
00:50:18
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it just holding in one hand then the
00:50:21
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►
bigger android phones and like the the
00:50:23
◼
►
big windows phones like I really find
00:50:26
◼
►
those uncomfortable not uncomfortable
00:50:29
◼
►
but just not as comfortable to use it
00:50:32
◼
►
just seems like they beg to be used
00:50:33
◼
►
those bigger phones the way that android
00:50:36
◼
►
phones have gone to four-and-a-half
00:50:37
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inches or 5 inches even in some cases
00:50:38
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►
they beg to be used with two hands all
00:50:41
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►
the time not one hand so I i don't use
00:50:44
◼
►
too many android phones not because
00:50:46
◼
►
they're bad phone that just is the
00:50:49
◼
►
keyboards just turn i'm not very
00:50:53
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that's like--that's my big things like
00:50:55
◼
►
yeah I have all those phone i like you
00:50:57
◼
►
know I like some of the work goo
00:50:59
◼
►
we'll just done with this nexus devices
00:51:01
◼
►
and they're pretty you know the
00:51:03
◼
►
development devices there faster
00:51:05
◼
►
powerful the the the OS is not not iOS
00:51:11
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►
but it's pretty good and a lot of people
00:51:14
◼
►
are writing applications for it but I
00:51:17
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►
just find little things are not there
00:51:20
◼
►
like the email client is not very good
00:51:22
◼
►
even though it's google built in our are
00:51:25
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►
the tactic the keyboards are not all
00:51:28
◼
►
that great but beyond that I think the
00:51:33
◼
►
key thing on this new the new size
00:51:37
◼
►
iphone 5 is actually going to be our
00:51:41
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►
ability to deal with excess information
00:51:45
◼
►
on the screen and I i think people
00:51:47
◼
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always forget get more information you
00:51:51
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►
cram on the screen it kind of you know
00:51:53
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►
is a shock to the system which is why i
00:51:56
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►
think the bigger android take a little
00:51:59
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►
time getting used to it because they're
00:52:02
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►
just more stuff crammed onto the screen
00:52:04
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►
and I think the is I i'm looking forward
00:52:08
◼
►
to using my iphone 5 whenever it comes
00:52:12
◼
►
to market from me i'm still unconvinced
00:52:15
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►
whether it's AII still why wonder
00:52:19
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►
whether it's not just a look
00:52:22
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marketing-wise we kind of need to be at
00:52:24
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four inches because this is we know
00:52:27
◼
►
people don't buy on specs but if
00:52:30
◼
►
everybody else is making 4-inch phones
00:52:32
◼
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we kind of need a 4-inch phone and that
00:52:34
◼
►
it's not really going to make that much
00:52:36
◼
►
of a difference people are not going to
00:52:38
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►
when they upgrade or not going to say
00:52:40
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wow I really appreciate the exercise
00:52:42
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here so if I was not writing about apple
00:52:46
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and iphone and devices i probably would
00:52:50
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►
not rush out and buy it just because
00:52:52
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it's called a 4-inch display right it's
00:52:55
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►
just not like a decision making right
00:52:56
◼
►
thing for me I like yeah okay whatever
00:52:59
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well anyway I guess that brings us to
00:53:01
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the iphone 4 absence we've been talking
00:53:03
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►
about it and that was the it's clearly
00:53:05
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►
the big announcement to that so before
00:53:08
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we go to the iphone though i would say
00:53:12
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thank God for upgrading the itunes uh oh
00:53:15
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my god that thing I've become such a pig
00:53:17
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I really did and you know what it kind
00:53:19
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of reminds me of a little and I i I'd
00:53:22
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heard I had not seen nobody has shown me
00:53:24
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I no no little birdies had filled me in
00:53:26
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that's to what the new itunes look like
00:53:28
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but i was told I've been told a couple
00:53:30
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people that yeah this is like a serious
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this isn't like a wink-wink nudge-nudge
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it's an update it's a real rethinking of
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what the itunes app for mac and windows
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should should look like and I I you know
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I haven't used it yet but I really from
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what I saw a boy really does seem
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it's very start and i have to say from a
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UI perspective it doesn't really seem
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like anything I've seen before
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it seems like a new type of that like
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Apple has all these apps that have you
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know and a third party apps to but the
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the same layout as itunes old itunes
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sidebar on the left in a column that's
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narrow and then you click something in
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that sidebar on the left and it fills in
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the right with what that is and that
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same yet that's how the mail at some
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mail works that's how all sorts of other
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apps work and it really seems like
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that's the also the best measure of how
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complicated itunes got is because that
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source list got longer and longer and
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longer before you even got to the stuff
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that you make like playlists and stuff
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like that but just in terms of how many
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items are in there in a default
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installation of itunes it was this that
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the other thing it's all gone now it's
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just one big window so it looked a
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little bit like Rdio to me like I
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couldn't put in put my finger on it but
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so I treated out ask people just looks a
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little familiar and like a lot of people
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tweeted out saying it looks like our do
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and i went and checked and it does and I
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just feel like our God let me try this
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because i hate my current itunes like
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just completely utterly useless it just
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slowly it's slow and I can't act like
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and you know like I just think the idea
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of playlist as we know it needs to be
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the record completely well I but I'd you
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know hold your thought on that because
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at one thing I say I'd unless i missed
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it the hands-on area did not have
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anywhere you could play with the new I
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tuna now so that's and that does make me
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wonder about the timing of the
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announcement today is that why it seems
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unusual that she was a little weird that
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they announced the new itunes but it's
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still october yeah or late October even
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or did they say october i think sometime
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in October well it's you know it's well
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over a month away
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yeah and they didn't have it in the
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hands-on area i saw that there's a new
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sieved which was kmart oh so maybe they
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do that i didn't i have i've been
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offline all day i don't i don't know
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I've contracted like I would probably go
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home and try but it really does seem
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like they've in addition to just simply
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reducing visual clutter in the interface
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they've also really seem to have done so
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with a specific goal in mind which is to
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get you back to just using the app to
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play music and maybe secondarily watch
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movies right and not have it be this app
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that was a device manager for gadgets
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you know these gadgets that you tether
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to your computer and you do all this
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stuff to do that it sort of got away
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from that and its back to use this app
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to play music so one observation i
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thought it would be really cool if Apple
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did visual playlist making capability
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drag-and-drop because now we have such
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good touch on our own our pond laptops
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that you can actually swipe in touch and
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create like really create playlists vs
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creating like those manual add to the
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playlist kind of nonsense so i am really
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looking forward to playing hard with
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that whenever it comes out that's that's
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my that's my who I have that was on my
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wish list and I got it
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there's that I forget what they call the
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new feature though but I'd it's the one
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that's like add to your list now or or
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something like that played now it's like
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if you're in the middle of a playlist
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but you're going on next up next that's
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it that's it up next
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that to me is I've thought of that
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feature but never really thought it
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through enough to like actually like
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right about it or ask for it
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I just know i can remember many times
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being in that situation where I'm
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playing music I have a playlist that i
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don't want to stop playing but I'm just
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digging around my itunes and I say i'd
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like to hear this song right now or next
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at least but I don't want to stop the
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playlist and I don't want to add it to
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the you know like maybe it's a smart
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playlists and the smart playlists
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doesn't even have this it's not what I
00:58:10
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can't add it to the playlist
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maybe that's what people also meant for
00:58:16
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the pandora like service that happened
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was going to launch which is like the
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same feature a pen I would love to have
00:58:24
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pandora features on my own library right
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like when it's so hard to sum the genius
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hasn't really been genius for a long
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time and that's how I feel like they
00:58:35
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needed to improve that as well so maybe
00:58:38
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that that comes out in the ABS about the
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next version of itunes I'm key i'm
00:58:43
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curious what the I don't think they've
00:58:44
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shown it i'm looking at the website
00:58:45
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right now i'm curious what the the
00:58:47
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windows version will look like Adam
00:58:51
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yeah who cares i know a lot of people
00:58:52
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have been asking me the Reader's have
00:58:54
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been asking me of what do I think
00:58:56
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they're going to do about Windows RT
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since Windows RT doesn't run the desktop
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Windows apps and I think the answer is
00:59:02
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that forever windows RT device you don't
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get itunes you're not going to use it
00:59:06
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the whole reason they have it for
00:59:08
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windows is so that you can use a windows
00:59:11
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pc to manage your ipods and your iphone
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not through iCloud and I think that now
00:59:17
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they're getting to the point with iCloud
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where they don't really care you had a
00:59:20
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if you have a PC they would love you to
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buy an iphone but i don't think they
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care so much about you being able to
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tether it to your pc you go through
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iCloud I i would like they did say
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though it's coming out for for pc to
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yeah I you know I think the the thing
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with the pc itunes was that i always
00:59:47
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find actually work better than the mac
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one really yeah
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huh I just like it just just felt more
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robust and you know less I've never even
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tried I tried a few times in 10 years I
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don't think I've ever
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don't think I've ever
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right itunes on pc and it's like I have
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I have one pc which i kinda try out
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things on I also really thought that the
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demo of the mini player was really
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fascinating because it seemed to me like
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I could leave my itunes in that mini
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player state almost all the time and you
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just type that I like that did the live
01:00:17
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search i like the way it looks the
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search results they didn't say it and it
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is sort of a different visual treatment
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but it kind of reminds me of the ipad
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interface with the pop over for the
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results you know like you just got this
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little tiny thing you type in the field
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and then here's the results click on it
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and you're playing mm so I've missed
01:00:37
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that part i was busy taking pictures and
01:00:40
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uploading them so so the scuttlebutt
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though and itunes kind of plays into it
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the scuttlebutt is that it that Apple
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didn't really decide applies a lot of
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stuff to announce as it before today
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they had a lot of stuff they wanted to
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announce in the next month or two and
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that they've been maybe thinking about
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two events I mean clearly the big thing
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that everybody is expecting and it has
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not yet been announces this ipad mini
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ipad air whatever you want to call it
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and that they've more or less felt like
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they had a lot of options as the how to
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do it should they announced the iphone
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all by itself like they did last year
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should they obviously the way they did
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go announce the iphone with the ipods
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and have a music event with the iphone
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or should they have a music event next
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month with the ipods and this new
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miniature ipad and call that the music
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event and I feel like and from what I've
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heard a couple people have heard is that
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the decision on that didn't get made
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until relatively late
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I mean did not last minute obviously
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just from the polish and the precision
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of the of the event they made it but you
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know relatively speaking as much as you
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know whatever time it takes to put on a
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event of that level of Polish that's
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when they made the decision and I think
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it kind of fits
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with the fact that itunes the app is not
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ready yet so I thought maybe you know
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seems a little bit and the ipods aren't
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coming till next monday there you know
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the the this is not this late the Apple
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is changing clearly so things are going
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to be a little different i'm pretty sure
01:02:23
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you have better idea on what's going on
01:02:26
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and how this works then I do work what
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are your thoughts
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well let me let me do their the second
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since the great app so here's some of
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the stuff that does just off the top
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does fullscreen live photo filters and
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video filters and others when you're
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using it as a camera
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it shows you the filters that you've
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selected live as you're shooting
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including for video real-time full
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resolution photo editing the filters it
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has 45 photo filters built-in and
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instant comparison to the original photo
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so you can say is this better is this
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worse is it better is it worse
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easy-to-use simultaneous sharing to
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multiple social networks and more
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it's a great app you can use it as a
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camera app like the name implies camera+
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pro but it's also a great app for
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editing photos you've already taken say
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with the built-in camera app on your
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iPhone new features so here's some of
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the newest stuff they've added a camera
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plus pro most recent update they've
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added support for the volume button as a
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shutter and including the headphone you
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can also use the headphone if your if
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your headphones are connected to your
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iPhone you can use that as a remote
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shutter for the phone for the camera
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which is a great feature so next week
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camera+ pro is running a photo scavenger
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hunt on Twitter and are giving away a
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$25 itunes gift card each day monday
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through friday so all you gotta do is
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you go to their twitter account which is
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at camera plus 4
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that's spelled out see amer APL us PR 0
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somebody's gonna win 25 bucks so check
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them out the app store camera+ pro and
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follow him on twitter
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alright you're back so the iphone it
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starts with a with Schiller I guess he
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said a little bit but any more lessons
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here let me show it to you any gestures
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and this pedestal i guess they had it
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for lack of a better word Rises out of
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the floor and start spinning around I
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and like I was sitting next to Dan Morin
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from macworld and I just said you know
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where do you buy where they buy
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something like that because you can't
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just go to the store and buy the
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pedestal that rises out of the floor was
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like something out of like a James Bond
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movie you know like that's where his
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watch comes out of this crazy
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over-engineered pedestal that comes out
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of the floor and they've got these
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little micro spotlights just to show
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that just hit the phone that was pretty
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cool i thought so too i thought that it
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comes n and I think people got it too
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because there's a lot of people laughing
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like it it was it was very well done
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I mean they did it to the nines I mean
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and the way that it rotated was super
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smooth it was timed perfectly with the
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movie behind it like where when the
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iphone was exactly sideways to the
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audience the phone on the video behind
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it with sideways to the audience but it
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seems crazy because it only was up there
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for like a minute it was up for like a
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minute it spun around twice and then it
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went down so like somebody that Apple
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like had the job of like engineering
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this robot pedestal that for one minute
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in one event right that's the luxury of
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having couple hundred billion dollars
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yeah I do think so and then to fast
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forward all the way to the end of the
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event I when the foo fighters came out
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I had this thought Tim Cook's up on
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stage and he's saying you know we love
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to have an act by just being a music the
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heart of the company in DNA the coming
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we always like to end with one of our
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favorite acts and we have one of those
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acts today and then they put a foo
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fighters album up so I knew it was the
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food fighters and everybody started
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getting excited but I thought well how
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are they going to come out and i will
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use what i thought i thought maybe it
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wouldn't be the full band that wouldn't
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be drums maybe just the lead singer
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David Grohl would come out with a guitar
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and one or two the other guys maybe with
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guitars that walk out onstage you know
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but it wouldn't be the full electric
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setup because there was clearly know
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where there where that could be and like
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years ago like I forget if it was a john
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mayer one of those things but it was in
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a Moscow knee event though which is a
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much bigger stage huge stage he came out
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like from the side like on a thing that
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rotated around from the back or maybe
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the African it was but but there was
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room for something like that and here
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all of a sudden the screen goes up and
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this platform comes out again so super
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smooth this moving platform that the
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band was on and I i asked at the the
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hands-on area and at it that somebody at
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apple said that
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yeah that was custom to like built that
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just for the thing
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well it's pretty impression that was
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pretty impressive i was like taking a
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back four minutes like wow idea the way
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you put those good is that that's those
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are the sort of little touches that you
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can do when you've got a hundred billion
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dollars in cash
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yeah so my mom I enjoyed myself was just
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like 44 for a few minutes it felt right
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damn these guys work really hard to make
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this happen yeah and I think they do
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work really hard and presentations it's
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not as there's a lot of work which goes
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my two cents i do too and I I've been
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thinking about this and i'm sticking
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about it in the context of amazon last
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week to that I think that there's a
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really strong correlation between a
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company that's able to put together a
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cohesive smart easy-to-understand
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presentation
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for a product and the fact that the
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product itself is actually thoughtful
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and cohesive and well-thought-out like
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there is you know and it's an inr night
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sometimes I worry i think well maybe
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that's just because i'm so close to
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apple an apple does both those things
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well does good products and does good
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things but I thought amazon's thing last
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week showed that it you know it's true
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for other companies to wear a really
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strong presentation from bezels and a
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really easy to understand message of why
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you would buy these candles and who
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therefore right and i think if you look
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around in the fashion world you can say
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like there's like if you go to a Tom
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Ford show and the way then stores are
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the products are not that I will never
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fit into one of his heart fits but but
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there is a cohesive thought process like
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you know it goes starts from the very
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top and goes right the way to the bottom
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and it is across product presentation
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experience like people don't quite give
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the importance to the experience part of
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apple or any company like Apple you know
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there is like you go to herman miller's
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you know products when you buy a like an
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it is an experience you don't just buy a
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word you know you're buying a certain
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kind of an experienced it doesn't matter
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whether its cost twenty bucks or two
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hundred thousand dollars it is about
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creating that experience and that
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experiences you're in bed sensibility
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you need to have it inside you to
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actually be able to project it to rest
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of the world and I think that's what
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Amazon short last night last week and I
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you know there's even like a rhymin a
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reason to the people who get trotted out
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now Amazon did it with one man it was
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just Jeff basis and he didn't call
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anybody else and that's one way to do it
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and I think in the past apple has had
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two events like that with steve jobs now
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they're not only they're ever going to
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have an event like that again I think
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now it's a team player team player type
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thing but it's it's almost like
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parentheticals or layers of a hierarchy
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we're at the top level there's the root
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level and that's Tim Cook and then he
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ok now we're going to talk about new
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iphone 5 here's Phil Schiller and so
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Phil then is like one layer down in the
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hierarchy and his thing is the iphone
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and then in the middle of his thing to
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talk just about the software then it
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goes to scott forstall and forestall
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leaves Phil comes back out to close his
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parentheses and then fill leaves and
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comes back out and you're back at the
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root level and then it starts all over
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again with the ipods and itunes with
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Eddy Cue and jaws react and with Jeff
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Robyn coming out to demo the new itunes
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but guys come out for specific reason
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and when they leave the guy who
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introduced them comes back out until you
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get back to Tim Cook at the end and it's
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compare that to microsoft and at the
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windows 8 again to borrow your technical
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term shit show a couple months ago where
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it's like there was no logic to it but
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yet it was it just seemed it was almost
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like the internal politics of the
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company laid just exposed where here's
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the people who need to come out because
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they want to come out but there didn't
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seem to be any logic to it there's one
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guy showing the one tablet and here's
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another guy who comes out to show a
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keyboard and then here's this other guy
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who comes out to show a different type
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of keyboard and then the tablet didn't
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work you know and now here we are
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months later and it's not just that
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their presentation wasn't good now we're
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at a point now with you know with
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windows 8 and windows phone 8 where is
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it going to ship on time are they going
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to have these things ready for the
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christmas season and you know it seems
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like it's a question it in a confusion
01:12:34
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is not just in your mind it's everywhere
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right but i always look at those things
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i always think it's me and it's just
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like when I was a kid it goes back to
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when I was a kid if I ever read a book
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that was like above my grade level and I
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didn't get it I just thought well i'm
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just not smart enough
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I'm not a good enough reader yet I this
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is beyond me and I just always blame
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myself and or like if I stayed up late
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and I got to watch a TV show with my
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parents that was on late and was like an
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adult show and I just didn't get it
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I just didn't understand what the heck
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is going on just always thought it was
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me and I still
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feel that way like I watched that
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microsoft event and i got like half way
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through before i started blaming them
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like halfway through I was like you know
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I'm just so unfamiliar with Microsoft
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I'm just so used to apple I don't get
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this and it just doesn't make any sense
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to me and I got halfway there that you
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know what this is just this is just a
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mess my I had a great editor when I that
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force.com David sure work he taught me
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the most important lesson of my life he
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said you know you're going to write a
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bar technology going to write about
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companies are going to write about money
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but you always have to remember
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everything company's products they're
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all about people companies are people
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you're not right in the garden
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institution you're writing about people
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who just don't know it you PA attention
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to the people and their own internal
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politics and their own internal
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confusion that's the company right there
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for you and that's exactly what i
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intuitively you are getting on to that
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tina glomming onto that thing when you
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look at the the nokia people write like
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five years ago they didn't have that
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level of confusion
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except they had a certain type of a CEO
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who was so metrics driven whose
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background was law and the guy who was
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continually pulling the you know was the
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puppet master was finance guy so they
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were only going to do things which made
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sense to them and that sprinkle the
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things that made sense in a spreadsheet
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right and that's exactly what it is it's
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like company that people kill people
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make things companies don't make things
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like how is that like so difficult for
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people to understand the other thing
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about today's presentation which I've
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seen it every single time between
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various product groups in a filler
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forestall and all these people come and
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go there is that little video from
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Johnny I've and Bob Mansfield tells you
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though that the guys were making it
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happen while these guys are making it
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happen so there is there is like a
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connective tissue that is designed
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manufacturing and the internal hardware
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technology I think that's really
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important for the company and I almost
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feel like like you could feel the pride
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that they have in it like like everyone
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for all they get caught up in some of
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these details like the emphasis on the
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Sapphire lens on the thing and it's like
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all anybody really cares about is does
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the camera really take good pictures but
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they're so you know and it looked
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awesome is my favorite part of that one
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of my favorite parts of that video of
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how they're making it I like that part
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with the laser cutter and I like that
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part where they take the Sapphire cut it
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up into a bunch of circles and then they
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have that like little suction cup thing
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coming and picking them off and moving
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them down so don't like those too
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I like my favorite like just watching
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them like the stuff they do it's just
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amazing i'm like i'm always amazed at
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the engineering which goes into the I
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I'll like I was so obsessed with the
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Retina Display MacBook Pro not because
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it's a great laptop I just feels right
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look at that engineering like the very
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idea that you're going to engineer the
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whole damn thing so that it looks a
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certain way and it works a certain way
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and it like nobody does that like you
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know that's that's the problem i think
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did you catch the part in the video
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where they said that like all right
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here's one iphone 5 frame comes down the
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pipe take a snapshot of it and analyze
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exactly the dimensions that it got cut
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and you know that this one piece of
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aluminum is cut and then you go over and
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there's like here's the camera and they
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have like 37 cameras that they've imaged
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and they pick the one that is the most
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ideal fit for this particular iphone
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frame I mean that's crazy i'm pretty
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sure they're all the theme I it almost
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defies belief
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you know but that you know why not
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though if it's going to do it why not i
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guess there is some very like they said
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they're measuring these things down two
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micron and so if there's like a micron
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or two difference in this one and that
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one and there's a micro to difference in
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this iphone 5 frame and this iphone 5
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why not pick the one that's the big down
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to the micron better fit right but it is
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obsessive I mean it really is and it
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shows the rich shows and the result is
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nothing wrong with that i think the the
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lot of people don't know this the
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glasses what is on the color on these on
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these high-end watches right and that's
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I think I was just like when I was
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watching that is like wow they really
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were paying attention like the scratches
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on on the lenses are a problem and they
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picked the right solution I'd and I do
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think I think the comparison to like
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just to sort of bring the show full
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circle but to go back to the high-end
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watches I do kind of feel like that's
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the level of craftsmanship that they're
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bringing to this and we haven't really
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you and I haven't which we should
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probably bring the shoulder him but we
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haven't really talked about the iphone 5
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itself however you should talk about it
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I I mean I want to know what you think
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like literally I late i think like
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everybody else I want to know what you
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think you know III don't know I i guess
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my first impression is just that it's
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almost startlingly lighter-weight I mean
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it really you know looking at the
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numbers in grams just doesn't seem to do
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justice to when you put it in your hand
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to sort of bouncing up and down had had
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different fields
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other than that you know it's just nicer
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newer faster iphone and android and i
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don't mean that to say that I'm
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disappointed it's you know it's like
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what last year you know this is what
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they do you know I I loved in internal
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the internal work which is gone into it
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i love the radio engineering they've
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done which is pretty amazing kudos to
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them the new chip is six is pretty again
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the kind of stuff nobody really cares of
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art yeah you know what they're going to
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care about is when everything is twice
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as fast yeah and I was talking to anand
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from a non-tech and you know he's like I
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always whenever I see him at these
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events I always check with him because
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he knows these components let's try it
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out but inside out and he said yeah
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that's you know the the description of
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the chips they're using for the a sexist
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yeah that should be twice as fast as the
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4s which is huge
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pretty big deal like such a tiny pack
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I've mentioned this before and it it it
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really you know it because I do a lot of
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web surfing sir i read a lot of websites
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on the phone it's a one of the main
01:19:36
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things i do i would buy an iphone if if
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it was the only a pinhead with safari I
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would be happy i would miss all the
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other stuff but I could get by
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I and it's like it's easy to forget it
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as we often waiting for the network if
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you have spotty connection or whatever
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but it's easy to forget just how much of
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the time it takes when you're loading
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web page is the phone rendering the HTML
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like it's actually because our computers
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have gotten so fast at it that they
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don't take much time to render a page
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where is the phone still does like when
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you load the new york times com
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it takes time for the phone to just
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render it let alone the network so 2x
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improvement in speed is is huge i think
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i want to know what what to do next like
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what kind of engineering internal
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engineering they do next I'm still very
01:20:25
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obsessed about that i think you know
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let's like before we go I think we
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should we should really take a minute
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and applaud the radio engineering which
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is gone into it like that just multiple
01:20:39
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bands across multiple networks more
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yeah i just think that is yeoman's work
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and it's smaller yeah i think though
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that the people will get no credit no
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they're never on stage
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nobody talks about them but those those
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people who worked wonders
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you know the networking like networking
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is the the blood and nerves of any
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connected device and I think that is so
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having that like I was just blown away
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by the the amount of stuff they've
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crammed into that little device
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yeah and I also wondered that now it
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supports bluetooth 4.0 which is
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everybody I I don't know much about but
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everybody tells me everything I've seen
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about it is that it's really going to be
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a big deal because it's low so low power
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and now you just leave it on you can
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just leave it on instead of worrying
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about turning it on turn it off you
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leave it on and then other bluetooth 4.1
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things can just push stuff to your phone
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or whatever device has it because it's
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always on and then you always have it
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and you're not using this sort of it and
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it's just so low power that you have to
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worry about leaving it right but they
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didn't have any demo they have bluetooth
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4.0 but they didn't have anything to do
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with it so that's what makes me they
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wouldn't have put it in if they don't
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mrs. in mind I think music is number one
01:22:04
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in my opinion I think he can have you
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know job own dark job jambox right i
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don't like I listen to it all the time
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like when I'm in the bathroom like turn
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on my you know pipe my music through
01:22:19
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bluetooth and it's ok but it runs down
01:22:21
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the phone really fast and they just live
01:22:24
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a waterphone so but i think it is that
01:22:28
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there is also you can do a lot of you
01:22:30
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know bluetooth bluetooth you know
01:22:33
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connectivity like you can do five
01:22:37
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transfers which is important like
01:22:38
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there's a lot of applications which are
01:22:40
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going to come up it might actually be
01:22:42
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you know bluetooth might actually
01:22:45
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average moment under the Sun right now
01:22:48
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it's a technology which is always
01:22:50
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deliver less than it should have
01:22:53
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the other thing I would point out just
01:22:57
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as one big like ya in person it really
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really stands out is the display and
01:23:03
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that it it to me instantly looks better
01:23:07
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than the iphone 4 4 s display and a
01:23:09
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couple of regards first the integrating
01:23:13
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the touch sensors into the same layer as
01:23:17
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the display absolutely noticeably puts
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the pixels closer to the surface and
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that was the thing I really focused on
01:23:26
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two years ago in the iphone 4 came out
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was how much closer to the surface the
01:23:30
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pixels were then on the original iphone
01:23:33
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in the three in the 3g s 3g and 3gs I
01:23:37
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feel like this is that big of its is big
01:23:39
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again a leap towards painting the pixels
01:23:42
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on the surface like it it's as to me is
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as big a step forward as the retina
01:23:47
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display the original one was to getting
01:23:49
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the pixels on the surface this one is
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again I i SAT there at the the table in
01:23:55
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the demo area and like called the phone
01:23:57
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sideways and I'm like.he it it's pretty
01:24:00
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thin it's really thin and now I look at
01:24:02
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my own personal iphone 4s right here and
01:24:05
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I see all this parallax between the the
01:24:07
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glass and the pixels underneath so let
01:24:10
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me ask you a question what's your take
01:24:11
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on the connector I
01:24:14
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think that they could the new connector
01:24:16
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is long overdue
01:24:18
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I can't believe that they lasted the old
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one lasted as long as it did I think
01:24:21
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it's ugly and I think it was a ton appel
01:24:23
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like design and I think that it was a
01:24:25
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bunch of compromises to that made sense
01:24:29
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in 2003 but it's just it was just ugly I
01:24:32
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mean it has sharp edges it was all
01:24:34
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exposed it it makes the the hole in the
01:24:38
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phone is way too big it's always filled
01:24:40
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with dust and it's like real gross in
01:24:42
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there it just looks weird
01:24:44
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yeah I just always thought it was a
01:24:45
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weird-looking adapter so I think that
01:24:48
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it's just been long overdue to be
01:24:51
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replaced i mean compared to the original
01:24:52
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like the original ipod shipped in 2001
01:24:55
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with firewire because it was Mac only
01:24:58
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and all Max had fire fire was a really
01:25:00
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nice port it was it had like a shape
01:25:05
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that you couldn't put it in wrong and
01:25:06
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you couldn't guess wrong and it went in
01:25:09
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and made like a nice it was a nice
01:25:11
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feeling that was Dick he wouldn't you
01:25:13
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know none of the modern ipods and
01:25:14
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iphones could ever use a firewire
01:25:16
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connected two or three times too thick
01:25:17
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but it just was a knife to me that's an
01:25:21
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eye apple-like port firewire and USB is
01:25:25
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just a little weird looking it's not as
01:25:27
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nice it's not bad for the pc industry
01:25:29
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it's actually a pretty good-looking port
01:25:31
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but I thought even just a USB plug is
01:25:35
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better-looking aesthetically then the I
01:25:38
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than that 30-pin connector so I'm really
01:25:41
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just surprised it took them this long
01:25:42
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and the new one the Lightning port to me
01:25:45
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is the epitomized epitomizes what I
01:25:48
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expect from an apple custom-designed
01:25:50
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port meaning you can put it in upside
01:25:53
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down there is no upside down you just
01:25:55
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put it in and there's nothing sharp the
01:25:57
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corners are rounded off and it just
01:26:01
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feels nice when it goes in it doesn't
01:26:02
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feel like brittle like it's all the
01:26:05
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other thing about 30 the old 30-pin was
01:26:06
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always like metal-on-metal when you're
01:26:08
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putting it in never liked it so is this
01:26:10
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like is it a pre-approved still like the
01:26:13
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standard connector for other devices to
01:26:16
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i know i don't think so anymore than the
01:26:18
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30-pin I think it's every bit as prize
01:26:20
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areas that the 30-pin connector they're
01:26:23
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like something like europe european
01:26:25
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commission wanted them to conform to
01:26:28
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yeah I actually don't know how they're
01:26:29
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getting around that I think that the in
01:26:31
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Europe there's some kind of law that you
01:26:33
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have to use like a standard the
01:26:36
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connector which more or less it means
01:26:38
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you have to use the USB micro USB or
01:26:41
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mini USB and i have no idea how they're
01:26:43
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getting around that maybe by shipping
01:26:44
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and free adapter i think maybe that's
01:26:46
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the loophole is that as long as you have
01:26:47
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an adapter your you your you comply with
01:26:52
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I don't know I think I'm a little bummed
01:26:56
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out about like all my accessories are
01:26:58
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going to be pretty useless now you have
01:27:00
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a lot of accessories see I don't have a
01:27:02
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lot of accessories so a lot of stuff
01:27:04
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it's just like really I mean God like
01:27:07
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you know so like that would prevent me
01:27:09
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from buying a new phone
01:27:10
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it's just like oh I like to change this
01:27:13
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and that like oh my god I don't want to
01:27:15
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do that so you're not gonna buy it I'm
01:27:17
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not gonna buy like you know like i don't
01:27:20
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know i do think and I really do believe
01:27:23
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it i don't think it's BS spend just to
01:27:27
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get you to buy adapters and get on board
01:27:29
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that i really do think that they
01:27:31
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couldn't make that it was limiting out
01:27:33
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then they could make the devices and
01:27:35
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maybe they could have made this new
01:27:39
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iphone 5 with the old dock connector but
01:27:42
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i don't think there's any way that they
01:27:43
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could have made the new ipods any of
01:27:46
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the nano or the touch with the documents
01:27:50
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just there to thin the Newton the GNU
01:27:52
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touch new ipod touches so then there's
01:27:54
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no way that they could have made it with
01:27:56
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the old adapter i think they could have
01:27:59
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easily gone the route of micro USB and
01:28:01
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it would have been okay when you don't
01:28:04
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really have to do a lot of things that
01:28:05
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we like to real people by non apple
01:28:09
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accessories if it has micro USB
01:28:12
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probably not well that is a good
01:28:14
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question what they would they lose
01:28:16
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something if they had gone with micro
01:28:18
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USB I think this one might be stronger i
01:28:21
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think one of the problems with micro USB
01:28:22
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is it hard to make a doc and I've heard
01:28:25
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from other people who have had fun
01:28:26
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because I speculate and it was actually
01:28:28
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on that old episode of the talk show
01:28:29
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where I said talking about ranting about
01:28:32
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how ugly the 30-pin adapter that adapter
01:28:35
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ism you know maybe they should go with
01:28:37
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►
something like micro USB and somebody
01:28:38
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said that you can have like a phone that
01:28:40
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port and you have a dock for it gets
01:28:42
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bent very easily
01:28:44
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ok you know I'll give you that yes I
01:28:47
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don't know but I can't vouch for that
01:28:49
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►
because i don't have a dr USB well but
01:28:52
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that was it that was like my one quibble
01:28:54
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for now but i think it was overdue and I
01:28:56
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feel like the longer they waited maybe I
01:28:58
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still think i would have been better if
01:28:59
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they could have moved sooner because
01:29:01
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then there'd be fewer the longer they
01:29:03
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►
waited the more peripherals they were
01:29:05
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out there more cars there were with the
01:29:07
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car kit you don't need this adapter and
01:29:13
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I don't know I wonder how many of those
01:29:14
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►
adapters people will need because the
01:29:16
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other thing you might need maybe you
01:29:18
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could just get by with the cable because
01:29:19
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all you know the cable that comes with
01:29:22
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►
the phone has regular USB on one side
01:29:25
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and the Newport on the other so for all
01:29:27
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of your power chargers and stuff like
01:29:30
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as long as you're plugging in USB you
01:29:32
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don't need an adapter right you know i
01:29:34
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have one observation and the iphone from
01:29:37
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a business perspective I think the from
01:29:41
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3gs to refer we went from 2g to 3g it
01:29:47
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was an obvious upgrade from 3gs 24 it
01:29:51
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►
was an obvious upgrade for s25 it's not
01:29:57
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►
really that clear and obvious upgrade i
01:29:59
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think apple may have some work cut out
01:30:02
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ah well I I've long thought I really
01:30:05
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think that they designed with the
01:30:06
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two-year contract in mind and I feel
01:30:08
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like they're not really shooting to have
01:30:10
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►
a phone i do i'm an idiot I I mean
01:30:13
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totally i'm going to buy a new one every
01:30:15
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year I bought whenever you're so far but
01:30:16
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I'm not over near and i'm not even close
01:30:19
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►
to being a normal iphone consumer I
01:30:21
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think for normal ones they are very very
01:30:23
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keenly looking at the two-year contract
01:30:28
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cycle and getting people to you know the
01:30:31
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I don't think they expect people with an
01:30:34
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iphone 4s to upgrade just like I don't
01:30:37
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think they've ever expected people with
01:30:38
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last year's phone to get the new 1i
01:30:40
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really down right well i think that
01:30:43
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would be still I do think that would be
01:30:45
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something to watch for like over the
01:30:47
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next couple of months the most
01:30:49
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►
interesting news in my opinion of the
01:30:52
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the free iPhone 4 mm it looks like for
01:30:56
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us right feels like for us all your
01:30:59
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friends have a you know you will never
01:31:01
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feel like right like lesser person
01:31:04
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because you have an iphone4 right in
01:31:06
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terms of the iphone as a status is what
01:31:09
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it basically it's the worst news
01:31:12
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►
possible for nokia windows 8 ecosystem
01:31:16
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and the part of the blackberry ecosystem
01:31:19
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not i'm not so sure how it impacts the
01:31:22
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Android but the two weakest players
01:31:25
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►
should be really worried about the free
01:31:28
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yeah and i have i still wonder i wonder
01:31:30
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how many of those they sell and I know
01:31:31
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that that the new the best-selling model
01:31:34
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►
is the highest one and the best-selling
01:31:35
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model for the next 20 years
01:31:36
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assuredly is going to be the iphone 5
01:31:38
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even though it's more expensive but i do
01:31:41
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think that those free phones are I think
01:31:45
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they're definitely important and i still
01:31:47
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think a lot of people it's a lot of
01:31:48
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times people maybe even go into the
01:31:50
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store thinking that's what they're going
01:31:51
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to get you know I'm going to get that
01:31:52
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►
free iPhone 4 and then they get talked
01:31:54
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►
into a ninety nine dollar upgrade to the
01:31:56
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4s look at all these you know nvm knows
01:31:59
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we have out there you never spent a
01:32:01
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bunch of them that is prepared you know
01:32:03
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►
come in a contract I mean iphone 4 on
01:32:06
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prepaid contract for two years well any
01:32:08
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other big thing with the iphone for
01:32:11
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taking over as the free one is that now
01:32:16
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they've got it at verizon and sprint
01:32:17
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because the 3gs was only gsm right so in
01:32:22
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the u.s. it was only an AT&T now they've
01:32:24
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got one and all three of the major
01:32:26
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carriers and I think that's and that's a
01:32:28
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huge factory so now you can go into a
01:32:30
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verizon store and get a free iphone that
01:32:32
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I think that is the the probably the
01:32:35
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required earthquake that was unleashed
01:32:39
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in the market right now be fun to see
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what that does and i also think that it
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does it tightens up i mean in the 3gs
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served Apple very well I mean it's you
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know it's the first iphone that they did
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the thing where they keep it around year
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after year after year who knows how many
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magazines of them they had but it really
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was long in the tooth to never retina
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display and it didn't look like an
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iPhone like I feel like this sort of
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this form factor this rectangles and
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sort of straight edges look sort of has
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become the iphone brand and now all
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iphones that you can buy today have that
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same visual brand take it doesn't need a
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logo on the front there's no apple logo
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on the front doesn't say iphone on the
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front because the phone itself is the
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representation of the brand right yeah
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actually be very fun to see how that
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does you know there's a lot of second
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gear carriers who would make a lot of
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money on that thing just regency like
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law all these regional carriers they
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will sell a ton of those i'm pretty
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excited to see the outcome of that move
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so the other the other change to and you
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were praising their antenna design you
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know across the board but now they've
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gotten away from the external antenna
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design where now the exit did the
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outside is still metal but it's a it's
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all just unibody it's all just there for
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the frame which means there's no longer
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any kind of need for a bumper or a case
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for that and ten you know the whole
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antennagate attenuation issue so Apple
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isn't selling bumpers anymore
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the bumpers are maybe there's still
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something for the older ones but there's
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no bumpers for this phone
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no that's what I have no idea what
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they're selling for this one I'm going
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to be breaking up at like midnight on
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friday and put in my order in like
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everybody else so i have no clue tell
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them you know the other thing which is
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interesting about this event was was I
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just still think that the the the
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end-to-end unification of the production
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and the design language and
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manufacturing processes is going to
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drive down the costs are doing business
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for this company
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I think that's the mean night I think
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it's the key i think is the key part of
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their insane compared to everybody else
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profit margins is the way that they they
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they get these sort of spend a ton of
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money to make the first one
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but then make so many of them that it
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gets cheap right eye and another thing
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one of the way I keep thinking of other
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things for my notes here but another
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thing this is the first time this year
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that the ipod touch the new ipod touch
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has the exact same display as the new
01:35:34
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phone so like that the 4th generation
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ipod touch had a Retina display and had
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the exact same size and pixel density as
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the iphone four for us but it wasn't the
01:35:45
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same display anybody's ever looked at an
01:35:47
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ipod touch and iphone 4 4 s side-by-side
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knows it the colors are a little bit
01:35:51
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more washed-out just isn't quite as nice
01:35:53
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that I i double-checked with the pr at
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the hands-on area what jobs react set on
01:35:59
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stage was exactly true is the exact same
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display right and it's surely more
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expensive and I think that's why the
01:36:06
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starting prices on those new ipod
01:36:08
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touches are higher that they don't have
01:36:10
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one of those at 199 I but there's got to
01:36:13
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be a huge efficiency there where they're
01:36:16
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only making 14 inch display and no
01:36:20
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matter how many you know millions of
01:36:22
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each device they sell its one display
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right and they just keep cranking them
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out and they have two chips a5 and a6 s6
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at the top right and lower end is all 85
01:36:33
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like the using up all whatever is right
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now and like next year
01:36:37
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everything will be a six right that's
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pretty it's like very exactly what Intel
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used to do right like a charge a lot of
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money for the the pentium trees and
01:36:46
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pentium fours and the pentium celeron
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was selling cheaply and but then two
01:36:52
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years later you use that same technology
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and that was the high-end try to do
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something else now you're making it as
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the low end but you can make it it's
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almost like you can make it with your
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eyes closed at they got more start
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working for that home
01:37:05
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thank you for being here John honored to
01:37:07
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be on your podcast it's great show i
01:37:09
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listen to it every we can to love mylife
01:37:13
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big i was i I wish I could do this every
01:37:16
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week and have my guest here in person i
01:37:17
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feel like this was much more personable
01:37:19
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after open to help it
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hope it sounds like that when you listen
01:37:22
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to the show it's way better than
01:37:24
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doing it over skype absolutely and see
01:37:27
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you in San Francisco relatively soon
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yeah I think so yeah I didn't get up
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alright thanks