15: The Moltzphone EXTREMO III DX, with John Moltz
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I'm nervous let me tell you why I'm
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nervous John Smoltz lay down thinkin
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thinkin here's what I'm thinking I'm
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thinking maybe we talked a little
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oh wow here's what I'm thinking is what
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I'm thinking
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did you watch did you watch Bill Clinton
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last night at the convention I i watched
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a lot of it it was long and here's why
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we can talk about it and nobody can
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Steve Jobs his wife laureen Powell Jobs
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was there in the audience and the
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shoulder on TV did you catch that I did
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not see that part she was sitting next
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to right next to chelsea clinton ok so
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that makes it on topic I suppose so if
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you want to go there
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I you know what i would like to do it in
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a way can you do it in a way can we can
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I praise bill clinton in a way that is a
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political out that even if you were
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you're at happy talk show listener who
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loves the tech talk and and and really
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loves it when I talk sports
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ah can we talk politics in a way that
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wouldn't turn anybody off regardless of
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how you intend to vote or your interest
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in union i know i believe we cannot do
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it but but but I'm willing to try and
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prevent all i want to say is that I it i
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just think Bill Clinton is is is the
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greatest speaker I've ever seen in my
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it was really it seems to me that have
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been the best speech of any of the
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anything so far we've seen the last two
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weeks right if I were including
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including motorola nokia like I have a
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dual interest in politics where on the
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one side i'm interested in politics it
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on a policy level you know like like
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what actually happens in which way it
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goes in there tend to be sort of liberal
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in that way but i'm also very interested
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in politics as sport you know that the
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the election politics and the strategy
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and how you frame stuff and and how you
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make the commercials and and do that and
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in that way i can abstract my personal
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preferences i think to some degree and
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appreciate when Republicans do things
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clever cleverly or smartly and
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and you know like i said i would I
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remember from the last decade is
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thinking that Karl Rove I just remember
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thinking man I man i wish that guy were
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a Democrat yeah because that guy that
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guy with this was crafting yeah i can i
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can respect it i can't say that i enjoy
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yeah enjoying it is a little bit yeah I
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can appreciate it maybe that's the right
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term pain I and I would be depressed I i
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would be very depressed i think if i
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were a Republican this time around
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because it doesn't seem to me like
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they've got anybody like that like that
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they don't have a strategy or a cohesive
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pneus right they sort of remind me that
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I thought they could their convention
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reminded me of the the the first
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democratic conventions that i can
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remember paying attention to like the
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Dukakis one in 88 where the reputation
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of the Democrats is that they're all
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sort of all over the map and they don't
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really have a playbook for the whole
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party that everybody sticks to it
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everybody just gets up there and says
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whatever they want right and the
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Democrats seem to turn to turn around
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we're at I think with the carry
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convention they were the ones that look
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sort of hapless and yeah well now it
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seems that to be really firing on all
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cylinders and just they have like a very
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simple message that everybody repeat
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right right there's only one to say okay
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is that I don't think I would know
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accidentally to see that's fine right i
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dunno i am very curious to see if if if
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any angry and I'm sure you will I'm
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writing one right now
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what a week it's been crazy man
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everybody's releasing these phones but
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there ya like I don't you think i don't
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know if you saw Twitter this morning but
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my i'm also releasing a phone which
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because you gotta you know if you want
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to think yeah if you want to control
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your own future your own destiny
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you really have to have your own phone
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right and i think it just makes sense
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for someone who is a freelance writer to
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have their own phone right because i
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have i have a lot of content so anyway
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the name given name for yeah it's the
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it's the most phone extremo
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3dx seen I don't think that's a good
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night and it's all it's all in capital
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letters so that's what makes a good name
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do you do you spelled when you when
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you're right on your site and you have
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control over you know an editor do you
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spell the morn words like razor all caps
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like if they ask me to like Motorola's
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style and try not to slow them at all
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but i would probably spell the rate
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razor part i don't know what I don't
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know why I mean I try to avoid it
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it's just seems really douchey but uh it
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does seem like the razor brand you know
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back when I had a razor flip phone
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yeah that seemed like it was that was
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all capitalized or something I don't
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capitalize I don't capital don't
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capitalize and the app there might be an
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exception somewhere but if somebody asks
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for their word to be spelled all caps I
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don't I don't do that that's probably
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that's probably better I mean unless
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it's an acronym your exact just if it is
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reducing planning an attack from
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dominating and you're just playing a
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dumb game they're playing right
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I like I think it but it sometimes it's
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hard to figure out how to spell it
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otherwise and i'll give you a good
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example here's a good example and I
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often i think if you looked at the
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daring fireball archives if you went
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through i think it was probably one of
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the room hopefully rare places where
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i've been inconsistent is next
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yeah and and even worse they're
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operating system next step
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yeah which they used to spell all caps
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except the e was lower case and that's
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how they spot the company name next and
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you know uppercase and lowercase ee
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uppercase X uppercase T which was sort
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of like a very eighties way of looking
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tacky right but it's against my style
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guide you know and i think that you know
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one of the reasons they do it is like a
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shameless attempt at getting some extra
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you know like if somebody scanning a
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webpage or you know even going back
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further print remember print Bigley
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it's a way of gaining attention you know
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that it makes this word pop out you know
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when you see razor it's gonna pop out
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because the letters are all or all
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likewise I don't I don't I don't use the
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! in yahoo's name
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yeah i should write that I had a
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long-standing draft i have a meeting
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like I'm getting your hair style guide
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sort of i wanted to write I just about
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all these things you know yeah sort of
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about my policies on punctuation and you
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yeah my own personal style guide but
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it's that the draft the title of the
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I don't even know if I said I'll say it
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because i just spent at least eight
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years now that's folder so I'm probably
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never gonna do but if the title is why i
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want bang yahoo it also occurs to me i
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had a ride but anyway I won't go I won't
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give them the ! because it's not you
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know you can't do that right but then
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people people people hollering many
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people get mad talking a little bit like
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my dad because I had spent some time at
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the shore with my folks and I did my dad
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what will we use the verb aller to say
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that somebody's angry at you but people
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hollered at me about spelling Apple's
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products not the way Apple spells feel
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like when I spell mac mini I capitalize
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the m instead of all lower so long as
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it's a name it's somebody's name if
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somebody like the writer
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her name is Dana Boyd she you know
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stylistically icon your own site and
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stuff prefers to spell her entire name
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with lowercase letters but if i write
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about her i capitalized her name like I
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would anybody else's just to be
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consistent like to me your name is a
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series of letters your name you don't
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get to choose which ones are capitalized
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we capitalized them that according to a
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set of rules but then the the iphone is
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also my life well it right and that's
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what people do people say i'm being a
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hypocrite because I always lower case
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in an eye product no matter where it
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falls like the beginning of a sentence
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on a headline or something like that
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ah and one reason for that is that it
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just looks stupid when it's it really
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looks awful when you capitalize it and
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have you ever seen yeah I'm sometimes in
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the new york times you see it and it's
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capitalized at the beginning of a
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sentence or something yes to some extent
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does and the other reason is that and I
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guess just to explain my reluctance to
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do something so ugly I have justified it
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by saying by telling myself that it's a
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prefix sort of like like a Scottish or
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Irish surname with the MCE rmac where
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there's this it now there are they
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started with the end but or like the
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somebody's name you put an apostrophe in
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there alright put my appliance in your
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phone somebody or somebodies name has a
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de in it you know John the molt and the
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DEA is low race well then that's ok it's
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like it's like a prefix I'm gonna
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consider the eye and those names to be
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like that and also the lower case I it's
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not obnoxious it doesn't like that the !
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in yahoo to me is obnoxious when I see
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it in the middle of a sentence it is the
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all uppercase razor is just obnoxious
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and Emma into the the funds that they
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announced yesterday
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it's just it's ridiculous they're all
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through all uppercase three phones then
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I i can't remember the names of thought
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my head right now but i can't you're all
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yeah which is another sign that it's not
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exactly working for him
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motorola razr droid maxx yeah one of
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them is the max one of them's the am and
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then the other ones like the maxx HD or
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no no no it's the droid HD ones ones
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just the HD and one of the HD Magnus and
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max has a at least 3 x's yeah but not on
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no they are uppercase OE even the max
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yeah if you look at their website anyway
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if you look at the product website they
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are actually uppercase O now I gotta go
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I think you're palla Paris lemon and ing
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and I suppose he had a post on tumblr
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yesterday but I have anything after look
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at that yeah very hard to see
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well here's a site this site that I link
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to yesterday I at laptop mag now there's
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their spelling it their spelling razor
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uppercase but not max uppercase but HD
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is uppercase of course because it's an
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accurate but i don't know maybe you're
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right the motorola spells it differently
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yeah I know because I he had mentioned
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that i went to their product page and it
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looks like they are spelling it's all
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uppercase yeah that's really going to
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help it it's like their eyes like
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they're yelling at you i wrote about
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this that I I don't understand why they
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have the two versions of the HD the one
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max in the non max because they're both
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big phones they both have big batteries
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it's not like hey this one has a free if
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you know for those of you who really
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burned through batteries in a day
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here's the one we're going to just make
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it heavier and put a big battery and for
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you and here's the regular one
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it seems it's not like here's a regular
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battery is a big battery it's here's a
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big thick battery and here's one with
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the bigger literally thicker battery now
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it doesn't see it just seems to me like
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they couldn't decide and so they just
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shipped them both
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I don't understand why both of those
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phones exist whereas the M seems like
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it's obviously different it's smaller
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and it's cheaper
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yeah so i can see why it exists there's
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a lot going on there and understand is
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an idea and I mean the whole thing I
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don't understand why motor or by google
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I kind of understand what the bottom
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I mean given where they are now but I
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still don't understand I just don't
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understand android you know i don't i
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don't either i don't understand it and
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and the announcement trying to follow
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along with the announcement yesterday I
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mean I wasn't watching the video I mean
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I was just watching like live blog
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covers and stuff I did I got confused at
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several points
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and I do i was surprised i guess i
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shouldn't be maybe I should have taken
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google at their word when they said that
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they were kind of going to leave
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motorola alone that they weren't gonna
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lie I just couldn't believe it because
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why would you spend billions of dollars
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to buy motorola if you weren't gonna run
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on the way you wanna to be run and yet
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that doesn't seem like what they're
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doing like they're still putting like
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custom motorola skins on the phones i
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mean they're saying I saw a lot of the
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coverage of it says that its toned down
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that the skin is not as much on top of
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pure Android 4.2 hours as you know
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previous motorola phones but it's still
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there and I don't understand because I
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get google I I thought google has been
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pretty explicit that they kind of want
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to discourage that they would like more
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phone makers to ship android like with a
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consistent you know everybody gets it
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yeah and also seems like they're
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shipping a slightly older very are they
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are still I think this is think they did
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say that it would get the most
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up-to-date version but it if you know
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which was of course they have to say
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that which is kind of fraud but yeah if
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they're not shipping on the absolute
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latest version and here's the thing that
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drove me nuts yesterday and I seriously
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I I i wasted at least an hour and it
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with this combined with the Lumia ones
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trying to find the prices of these
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things and on me like a dummy thought
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well there must be somewhere and I just
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thought well maybe the do you know the
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coverages it's just so much news going
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on that none of these sites you know
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maybe they just haven't noticed that
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they haven't reported and so I just
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loading and gadget and then the verge
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and i think i even went to gizmodo at
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one point I don't know I black down and
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I'm like I want to get here and went to
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the motorola site and nobody has prices
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right am I right or am I wrong that
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there's I believe how many phones were
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announced yesterday five because be
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motorola announced three and right and
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there were two yeah there were two
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Lumias and price there was only one
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price announced and that was as far as i
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know and that was for the m which is any
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which 199 that
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and I but the that none of the other
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phones are shipping it right so which is
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more than iphones announced yesterday
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aren't know we have no ship dates yet
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and we have no prices right right the
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other end the other two phones now we've
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got the Lumia 9200 and the Lumia 80 no
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no not 920 and the Lumia 820 and the a20
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looks to me like a nicer sighs I got
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really i'm not a fan of those bigger
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phones I've tried carrying some of those
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around and and I just don't care for
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them and the Lumia that I got to try
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last year the that was the impetus the
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800 is like exactly iphone shaped more
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or less you know
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yeah really really close and I found it
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to be delightful to put my pocket and to
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carry that filter those are fairly
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good-looking phones i'm not a big fan of
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the bright colors but I had taken their
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lack yeah but you can't block right
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right but it just seems like spec-wise
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that the Lumia the new 820 is really
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like low-end like it's it's old tech
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it's really like a low res screen
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I like the 800 x 480 a few pixels and
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whatever it is to make it 16 x nine but
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it's like an 800 x 480 pixel screen
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whereas the 920 as like what I can 1200
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or 1280 by 768 screen like it's it's
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actually got more pixels per inch than
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the iphone 4s I quite like two or three
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like 326 pixels per inch for the apples
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Retina display and it's like 330 or 333
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or something like that on this new Lumia
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which sounds that sounds great I can't
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wait to see it
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are you a rocking horse I am her son
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some idea are you a boom mic i do yeah
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i'm only getting started so yes I think
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I hear it's alright it's ok i'm just
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very nervous i know i know yeah I
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understand it's okay still is in lots of
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coffee i'm sure
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mmm i just took a sip yeah but anyway so
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they announced the phone
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where the software is not available yet
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and it doesn't even have a firm ship
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date other than quote-unquote fall you
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know so i guess sometime before december
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and no prices
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I don't even think they said what
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carriers in the US are going to carry it
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and I know it's a worldwide announcement
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that they're going to sell this thing
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all over the world and that I shouldn't
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be totally us-centric and that Nokia
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doesn't a lot better in Europe than they
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do in North America block but it's you
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know telling you I mean it just seems
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frustrating to me it's like I here's
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guide to me every product announcements
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here's what it is here's why you should
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care about it
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here's where to get it and here's what
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it costs and and now they're making
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these product announcements without the
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where to get it and what it costs and we
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now have two in a row from Microsoft
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right right and I guess this one will be
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nearer term than the surface tablets
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where I mean and write a matter of weeks
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rather than you know half a year but it
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does seem weird and it seems to me like
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a way this is Demi and when i'm leaving
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with this whole thing is that it just
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seems very clear to me that these these
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these companies have jumped the gun
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this week because they want to announce
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these things before apple announces yeah
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the next iphone next week and I don't
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understand why
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yeah I don't I don't I mean I guess the
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theory is that year you put that
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placeholder in people's minds so they
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don't run out and buy the iphone but is
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that what is really going to stop and
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how many people is that gonna stop for
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buying an iphone you know what that's a
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very interesting way to put it and it
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didn't occur to me that might be it and
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I think it's it might be fueled a little
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bit by hubris where where you think
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you'll make think that people are going
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to stop but lining up to buy an iPhone
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because you announce this thing doesn't
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that doesn't have any price or shipping
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right that they're so convinced in the
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appeal of what they're announcing that
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they think that there might be a
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sizeable number of people who will think
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that way see well I where I think it's
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crazy is to me the whole point of the
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ease of doing the product announcement
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that gets as much press attention as you
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can garner is to drive people to action
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and say look we want you to be excited
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about this and we want you to go order
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it right now go buy one right go get in
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ah whereas I I just feel like it's a
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very complicated message and I don't
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think it it's the way consumers act is
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to say here's this thing we're going to
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have in a couple of weeks remember it
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stay excited about it and go get in line
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six weeks from that by contrast today as
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amazon has announced a bunch of Kindle
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Fire Kindle rears what have this still
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is it literally as we're talking as
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literally as we're talking yes it's
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going alright so do the news John they
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have announced a what's a tin kindle
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paper that people were joking that's the
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kindle paperweight but that's not the
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name of it it's a it's basically it's a
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backlit you know regular kindle just
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like the basically just the e-reader
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e-ink the ink with backlit paper light i
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guess probably paper light and like a
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hundred and started 2 $20 something like
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that and then also to new kindle fires
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and what is it was a 9-inch em HD so far
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that is what I see so far uh and the big
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rub in the air yeah big rumor is that
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they'll be announcing a phone right well
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we'll stay tuned and we was interested
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yeah yeah yeah what is there a position
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which but they're you know they're
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announcing they're announcing prices and
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alright well and that's because you know
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and that's why amazon is in my opinion
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apples strongest competitor
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yeah it's almost it's like it there in a
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position of strength like Apple whereas
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microsoft and motorola or not
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right with it sounds like a good tablet
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8.9 inches 9 20 x 1200 display that's
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250 4 pixels per inch so ah that's like
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right there in line with the retina iPad
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yeah right you know it's I think it's a
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great idea is I don't get sick that I
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even know this but I think the right now
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ipad is 263 pixels per inch and I would
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completely concede that nine pixels per
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inches is you could add surrounding our
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so that sounds good
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the base kindle fire hundred fifty nine
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dollars for the 7-inch tablets and what
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does the 8.9 inch cost time doesn't like
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that rolling scrolling scrolling don't
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see it yet but i don't see it
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well that's how you do it that's right
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here we are here we are live news amazon
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helping out the talk showed during the
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yeah by just doing exactly what i said
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here's what it is
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here's why you'd be interested in it
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here's where to get it and consequently
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I get more excited by their
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announcements exactly i mean even when
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they're just coming up I let the last
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year when that the kindle was was
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announced that is probably the most
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excited I've been for another product
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announcement outside of Apple never and
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i'm also intrigued by the the the
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vectors of competition in other words
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whose more in competition with each
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other I mean ultimately they're all in
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competition like let's just say for the
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tablet market and you have a
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ten-year-old kid who really want a
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tablet for Christmas when you're only
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going to buy one so in a sense they're
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all competing with each other to have an
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array of devices that you're going to
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choose from but and spend 200 or 300 or
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400 dollars and that gift for your you
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know eight-year-old daughter
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ah but they're not really competing with
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each other equally I think Amazon is far
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more focused against Google with this
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tablets yeah okay and you know what
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here's a email I just got from the
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reader here's a line from jeff bezos at
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the event for high-def device 8
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gigabytes is dead on arrival
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that's clearly about the the google
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yeah which only has a gigabytes of
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storage which doesn't seem very well
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except they think he's there he's
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talking about the 9-inch so I think he's
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talking about the larger because the HD
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one is the larger form factor
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yeah well I don't know and no but i
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don't think anybody cells in google
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doesn't sell it a tenant 910 and shrimp
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tablet we have it the tablet they do
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sell it anyways
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yes yeah but i'm not sure i think that
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maybe the base Kendall still has a keg
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words what it would do do you fill up
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your ipad not anymore cuz i got 32
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I mean I used to have a 16 and I feel
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that upright exactly the 16 of was a
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real struggle because i am I i think i
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got the first one was only sixteen
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because I really you know I just thought
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you don't I I really bought into the
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idea that I would only just sink you
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know if I needed a movie I'd put the
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movie on and then when I was done I
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would take it off and then it's it
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yeah you have to give you have to get
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pretty adept at managing that right and
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the thing that i have found two is if
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you're gonna go on a trip and you want
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some movies on your iPad you gotta put
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them all on before you leave the house
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because you don't want to do it at no
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you're not going to get it on the
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airport Wi-Fi you're definitely not you
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didn't allow you to do it over 3g if you
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have the 3g model and even if you did it
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would you know what movie would use at
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the whole data alignment and you don't
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want to try to get a hotel you know what
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their Wi-Fi exactly right
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it's just going to your iphones or ipads
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just going to shut down and tell you
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that you know stop stop and your kids
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your kids sitting there screaming for
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clone wars exactly you gotta load up my
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and if you want to load up a couple
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movies really you know all of a sudden
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32 is what you need
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yeah so that's what I went to last time
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and I don't do that with the iphone i
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still go 16 with the iphone because I
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just don't I'm gonna cut because i have
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the ipad i don't watch anything on the
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iphone anymore really
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see I go I max out my iphone because i'm
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an idiot 64 yeah i do I just my god the
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because i'm a total idiot i really am
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what was my tweet from a couple years
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ago is my all-time most favorited tweet
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i think it was something along the lines
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of I don't drink I don't gamble my only
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my only advice is buying a new iphone
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every year that in lying about drinking
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and gambling I now I do and and you know
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what you know why it is is that i have i
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want all my put all my music on it the
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whole library i think the library and I
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need the 64 for that because otherwise I
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like twice like two times I've been on
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an airplane and the only thing I have to
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listen to music is my iphone and I've
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been in the mood for something
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particular and it wasn't in the subset
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of my library that i synced and then I
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thought well the next time i buy a phone
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i'm getting the big one so I net that
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will never happen to me again hundred
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twenty-eight yeah did you ever have
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oh yeah i was even though they really
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did ya buying a hard drive based ipod
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huge music guy like I've my library
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honor it fits on a 64 gigabyte iphone
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because i get in at 260 260 gigs that's
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what that's all that's crazy i think
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they had one parent is that though did
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they have got that I thought they did
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too i thought that they think they're
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going to build this is very feature-rich
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model right and now they just have the
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huge model but that's you know I I still
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die i do understand that that's useful
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Egypt DJ's right DJs and and people who
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are just serious about music and I'm not
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that's the night I don't I never have
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that problem
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it used to be I remember one time like a
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close friend was getting married and and
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because it was their clothes it's like
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wedding party or somebody had to go to
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the reception real early and I got to
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see the DJ setting up and it's just like
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20 minutes are going back and forth to
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his van to get milk crates full of cds
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and albums out of the van and that's all
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you know that's all over now right
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I remember like in high school like in
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high school dances like that the DJ
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would have you know just piles and
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popular all like a library of cds behind
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yeah I don't need that you just have an
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actually I think I'm 60 might be the
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largest-ever god no I could be wrong i
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can tell you exactly how many pixels
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that sounds great do you like to go
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clothes shopping I know I desperately
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need someone to make me look good do you
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do you like to go clothes shopping
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it depends it depends but if i have time
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I'm i I've been known to like clothes
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oh I like to do it i like the online
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clothes shopping I like that too i
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really do I don't think yeah trying to
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think of the last time I bought a pair
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of shoes in person it's been a long time
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really like the online shopping
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yeah shoes you buy shoes online yeah
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because I know my sons and my size in
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the brands that I i think the last time
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i did buy a pair of a different they
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differ by brand
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yeah well that's what it's like a nine
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and not the nine up for everyone right I
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know exactly what I take those and let's
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face it most issues i buy your sneakers
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so right i know what I taking the
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devious and I know what I taken nike
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yeah and now i have it since I quit
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working for the man i don't have got
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very different clothing needs yeah which
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the man thanks I'm stuffed don't get me
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started i'm working for the man i'll
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tell you what though if you work for the
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man if you still work for the man you
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man that's overkill for our lifestyle
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yeah that's ok I usually look homeless
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every once in a while you need that you
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go to Vegas a lot you need to look good
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in Vegas that's true that is true Cena
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and I don't want to look like a big you
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want to look like a player when you're
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in vegas exactly i guarantee you next
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time I go to Vegas I will be packing
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clothes from Franco com you bet
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check the tag you see me in Vegas any of
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you out there you see me in Vegas next
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time check the tag on my shirt and see
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what's from let's take your word for it
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yeah or you could take my word for it
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like imagine somebody to call me check
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yeah check your dad
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imagine somebody calls me on that but
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it's better like that it's not and I'm
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like well it's not a friend of shirt but
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i am wearing nice slacks oh let me check
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my advance check my tickets
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that's how vegas trip really starts
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going bad or good
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hey you know Sarah starts starts getting
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rolling casino security comes over and
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gives me the spiel about not being
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allowed to take your pants off your sr
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you're like you're like Bruce Wayne and
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the in the pool with a with her
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yeah without value with some with some
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some models the kindle fire HD this is
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the 9 inch one will be available for 299
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dollars 299 dollars
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Wow aggressive yeah rest of setting the
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bar right that's a hundred dollars less
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than off have to yeah visit that i'm
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correct right 398 399 for the ipad 2
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which is not yeah I red string right i
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think i could be wrong i have this hunch
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that when apple unveils the ipad mini
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that they're going to get rid of the
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no really I don't know though i might be
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wrong now because maybe that's how they
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still fill in that maybe it would still
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leave like a big price gap
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yeah i think it would yeah and we talked
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about this before we were in what 250
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but next one of the best friend taken
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out 24 maybe they have to guy I they
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might have to
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199 because what's the price on that the
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7-inch kindle and now it's now it's less
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so it's 160 I think wow yeah yeah 16 159
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yeah 159 aggressive
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amazon is kind of crazy amazon's the guy
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also ok so now they got okay we've got
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three models they have the old kindle
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fire which is not which is actually an
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upgraded old kindle fire 459 dollars 7
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inch HD 499 and then 8.9 inch HD for 299
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hm ships November 20th at the top of the
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line there that's pretty late
00:35:53
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it shows you that they're pushing it i
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mean least they have a day have a date
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right and a price and a price
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Amazon's pricing their their willingness
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to to sell stuff of what seemingly at
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cost or near cost
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yeah that makes them like the crazy guy
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at the poker table like the guy like
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Jake you're playing poker and there's
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Jeff Bezos and he he just doesn't even
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look at his cards you deal the amount
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and he just leave them on the table and
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he just says I'm i bet a hundred dollars
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and you now you don't even know your
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guys the guys nuts you have no idea is
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good i mean it's really aggressive i
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guess it works for them
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I mean I they have a lot of content
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right so anything they sell it costs the
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anything they get up above that is gravy
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right and they you know i just i know
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you know i think just announced this
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stuff so we can't say I you know nobody
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nobody has reviewed these these products
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yet but I expect them to be pretty good
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simply it because of the history where
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the original kindle each tablet re-ink
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reader the first one was terrible it was
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a complete turn and one year later they
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had a pretty good one
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like that's just how they roll is that
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they are going to ship one like a year
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too early just to hit the market
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I and test the waters and they're going
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to fix all the agree just
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problems you know within that first year
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yeah that's what I expect
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yeah but they will never ever announced
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sales you didn't buy a fire did you know
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I didn't I I completely resisted yeah I
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wanted to and then by the time they
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shipped I i cooled off
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yeah the it didn't seem as good as what
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I wanted it to be like I said I was
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excited excited for the announcement and
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then somewhat letdown after reading the
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reviews right and hopefully these will
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yeah I i really do expect them to and I
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kind i really do think that there it's
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more competitive more directly
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competitive with the google nexus than
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with the ipad it will see but i feel
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like these bigger ones now that I'm
00:38:10
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their their 4g yep
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what more expensive one is coming with
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4g 32 gigs of space for 99 I like i have
00:38:24
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the e-ink ones are still selling i
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suspect i used to see it when I used to
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commute I saw a ton of those things I
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trying i really think though I think
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with those e-ink ones and I could be
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wrong but I do think because i have 1i
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and I didn't even buy it for myself
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Marco our good friend Marco Arment
00:38:45
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bought it for me as a gift and it's the
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22 year old one it's a the kindle i
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forget what model year is but it's got
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like it's dark grey and it has a
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physical keyboard
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uh-huh and I i do enjoy it and I used it
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more than I thought for a while until I
00:39:02
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really kind of got used to reading books
00:39:04
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on the ipad yeah but i do think though
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that once you have one you don't really
00:39:11
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need a new 12 years later just because
00:39:13
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it's a little better
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it's I don't think it's as much like
00:39:16
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phones and tablets because you don't do
00:39:18
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as many other things I think back I
00:39:21
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think a backlit one might change that
00:39:23
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yeah about certain great that might be
00:39:26
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it but if it's yeah but if it's just the
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him you know because I do see when I see
00:39:32
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people on airplanes reading even with me
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and tablet it you know there are a lot
00:39:36
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of them i see a lot of older candles I
00:39:41
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don't you know I just don't know that
00:39:42
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people replace them as free clothing
00:39:44
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now what they drop the price to now the
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prices down to sixty nine dollars right
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Ernie and tablet
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yeah i know there's an explanation that
00:39:52
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they're gonna do we're gonna make it
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that's the one with ads though right
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yeah i think so i think that the lowest
00:39:59
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price one comes with that right that I
00:40:04
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would not die so does the 7-inch tablet
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is the 7-inch kindle have any 3g
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connectivity or just know just the guy I
00:40:12
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think just the 9-inch 1i think that's
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where Apple really depending on the
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pricing I think that's where they're
00:40:19
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really going to steal the show on that
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the ipad mini because i'm convinced that
00:40:23
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they were going to sell it with the same
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either get it cheap you know wifi-only
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is cheaper and for a hundred extra box
00:40:31
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you can get one with 4g known it you
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know the nexus doesn't have it and the
00:40:38
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amazon one doesn't have it
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yeah so you're going you of you flying
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out i am flying out i was just got to
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segue to that you're so astute john i am
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going I really am for the big apple
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yeah you will not be there i guess i
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have stice still have not gotten my
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that's that you know what that's going
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to happen now should happen you should
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get invited to stuff like that
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well that would be fun a lot of
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speculation surprisingly usually people
00:41:15
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don't speculate in advance of of apple
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announcements
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did you see documented did you see
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have you seen the and it's died I next
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week's thing is it seems pretty clear
00:41:31
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the invitation kind of hints with the
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shadow that looks like a five the
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invitation seems to make it pretty clear
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that it's going to be about the iphone 5
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heard from my famous little birdies that
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I've heard that the event will only be
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about the iphone and and I think
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corresponding with that iOS 6 which i'm
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guessing we'll have some sort of feature
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that they had announced previously and
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i'm guessing some apps you know that
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they always have new apps from Apple to
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show off you know the phone maybe some
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new series features and stuff like that
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but it's you know
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yeah that's what I've heard is that the
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event will be about one device the
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iphone 5 and the software that runs on
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it but just in terms of that sort of
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speculation and and and hype that people
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generate in advance of these things you
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see macrumors paid a guide to do like a
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3d render of what the ipad mini could
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look like oh I i just saw I didn't sell
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quickly it's it's really well done and
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it's like done in 10 in WebGL which I i
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don't recall ever having used before you
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have to go in to develop menu and safari
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and turn it on but then it's you know
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it's like the old quicktime GL where you
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can click and drag to rotate it in 3d or
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wherever you want but it's a 3d render I
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really well done
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I mean it looks totally credible you
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know it looks like it could be in an
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apple device but I just can't and I
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can't fathom commissioning a guide to
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build a 3d render of what a product
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could look like and i also saw that
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there are people like case makers at
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that and there's a big conference in
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Berlin last week the IFA something
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conference and that there were case
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makers who based on like leaked images
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and rumors of the iphone 5 had built
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mock iphone 5 yeah so that they can show
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their cases for it
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laters there's even a there's like a
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full android knockoff iphone 5 this is
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so great i got the layout of all it's
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because they're gonna sue apple that's
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what this yeah and they're sooo and
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prior art right it's it at all right i
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got a google list
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see this little gathered for me i
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googled her Chinese android iphone 5
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suing apple here we go
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actually just that yahoo.com chinese
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company used leaked iphone suspects to
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build knockoff hopes to sue apple for
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patent infringement
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well you gotta get in on that right
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and well they have a good argument their
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argument is that they are shipping first
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and so regardless that they based the
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admittedly based the entire thing on
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leaked yeah hearts from the iphone 5
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that they're shipping the product first
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and so they're going to sue apple it's
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called the goophone i5s 10 and it runs a
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custom version of the Android operating
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system that mimics the look of apple's
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ios the goophone i5s yeah
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semi soon get sued by Intel no I'm not
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so sure that there's exercise that
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intellectual circle of life and yeah
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apparently not
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do you think I mean are they just that
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out of touch or or do they know that by
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claiming to sue apple that it's like a
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problem they know that that's just going
00:45:17
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to get even more publicity
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I have to think that they that's a
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ladder right yeah they kind of that
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there are general getting publicity but
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hats off to them softer them for having
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I wonder how that works out of the end
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though I mean that just doesn't seem
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like that pays off but alright if you
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would just do we just get completely
00:45:40
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screwed at the end of the day having
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done that right and it is it's a
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slightly but not even slightly it's
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actually a very different thing that
00:45:52
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won't then what Samsung did and arguably
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still does yeah we're there what they've
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done is it's it's truly a knockoff
00:45:59
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I mean it is it really looks identical
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to it's the only thing that short as is
00:46:04
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the they don't actually put an apple
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logo on the back yeah that's what you
00:46:09
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might as well write you might as well
00:46:11
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because that's what like the handbag
00:46:12
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fakes do and bring like when you buy a
00:46:14
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fake Rolex you know for twenty bucks on
00:46:18
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the street corner it says Rolex it you
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know it doesn't say like relax or
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something like that it says Rolex I mean
00:46:24
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it's you know it's like a complete fake
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i'm not quite sure why they don't why
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they don't do the go the whole way I
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guess because they're an actual company
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with a brand that could be sued whereas
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like knockoff handbags and watches are
00:46:40
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all sort of underground you know that
00:46:43
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there's no there's no nobody knows
00:46:45
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actually who made that because they're
00:46:47
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being right by now it's completely on
00:46:51
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the black market or the gray market or
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whatever you want to call it
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yeah yeah this is great
00:46:57
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it's this is probably my favorite story
00:47:00
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that we really can you block me can you
00:47:01
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buy we should buy 1i I wonder you got me
00:47:05
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when you get in
00:47:07
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yeah probably not hong kong-based online
00:47:10
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design their cheapo and refund after the
00:47:12
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alleged apple iphone 5 parts leaked yeah
00:47:15
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i just i think it's only oh boy
00:47:17
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hongkong but maybe do we have listeners
00:47:18
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in Hong Kong certify if anybody out
00:47:21
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there's listen to the show and you live
00:47:24
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in Hong Kong and you can buy one of
00:47:25
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these get in touch with email me go to
00:47:27
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daring fireball and hit the contact form
00:47:29
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and and let's figure out what the prices
00:47:32
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and if it you know if it's reasonable
00:47:34
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maybe i'll try to get one of these
00:47:39
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I'd love to see your review i should i
00:47:43
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should get it and review the hell out of
00:47:45
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I'm worried that I'd get lost that after
00:47:48
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the home screen that the whole thing
00:47:49
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will be in Chinese oh yeah I take this
00:47:54
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here's one thing I've gotten a lot of
00:47:55
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questions about this and I I thought
00:47:58
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maybe the talk shows would be a good
00:47:59
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place to write about it is that they're
00:48:00
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I've already seen on Twitter people
00:48:02
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wondering whether i have already gotten
00:48:05
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an iphone 5 for reviewing and others you
00:48:10
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know that you know did I can't speak for
00:48:12
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for anybody else I don't know it's all
00:48:14
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you know little secret and you know who
00:48:16
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knows whether but my understanding at
00:48:19
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least in my personal experience in the
00:48:21
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two years since since that Apple has
00:48:23
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started giving me products to review
00:48:26
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ahead of their release in my experience
00:48:30
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they never ever even tell you that the
00:48:33
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thing exists until the event they the
00:48:36
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event is when they that's the first time
00:48:38
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I and completely sure that the thing
00:48:40
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even exists and then after the event a
00:48:44
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you know they they schedule a time where
00:48:46
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you come in and then yeah you get a
00:48:50
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yeah but not only so not only have i
00:48:52
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never gotten a product before it was
00:48:56
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announced at an event I i I've never
00:49:02
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even heard about it beforehand didn't
00:49:05
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you didn't get clued into Mountain line
00:49:08
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yeah mountain lions were because it
00:49:10
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wasn't a hardware product yeah so they
00:49:12
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did they said would you like to have
00:49:14
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this briefing you know we're going to be
00:49:16
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in New York for a couple of days talking
00:49:18
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to the press if you'd like you know you
00:49:20
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can schedule a time and and come up and
00:49:23
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when they did they you know they it gave
00:49:26
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me the mountain lion release on a loner
00:49:29
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macbook air and that was before they
00:49:33
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announced it that the idea you know but
00:49:35
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that's because they didn't have an event
00:49:36
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right that that briefing was the
00:49:39
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substitution of holding enough having an
00:49:41
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event and I if they had had an event I'm
00:49:46
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sure they would not have given it to me
00:49:48
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before the event
00:49:51
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but added that so that's the thing is
00:49:52
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that done this week's show today
00:49:54
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September 6i can say no i do not have an
00:49:59
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iphone 5 i do not even know i do not
00:50:01
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know with any certainty that there is
00:50:02
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such a thing as an iphone 5 I don't know
00:50:05
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47 and someone could overnight you want
00:50:08
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from hong kong email right
00:50:10
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definitely then you down before whereas
00:50:12
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by next week's show which I intend to
00:50:16
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record after the event you'll have there
00:50:19
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is a chance i would be nice i would i
00:50:22
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would be flattered it would be great if
00:50:24
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there is a chance that i will have one
00:50:26
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but if i do i'll have signed an NDA you
00:50:31
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can't tell where they handed it to me
00:50:32
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where I won't be able to say but i could
00:50:39
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say right now that I don't but and once
00:50:41
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you have the NDA you can't even lie i'm
00:50:42
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not gonna lie i can't say i don't have
00:50:44
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it but I also can't say that I do have
00:50:45
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it you can't just can't talk about it
00:50:51
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that's how it works yeah and I don't
00:50:52
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believe that they seen anybody I don't
00:50:54
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think that even Musburger poker anybody
00:50:57
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gets them in advance i think yeah you
00:50:58
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know everybody gets the same in nine
00:51:02
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days so no phone from amazon no no phone
00:51:05
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i'm not surprised by the event is over
00:51:07
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right and no fun
00:51:10
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yeah I'm not surprised I'm convinced I'm
00:51:12
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you know I don't have any it you know
00:51:14
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had inside knowledge but well I've heard
00:51:17
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things i have heard some things that
00:51:18
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they're working on the phone but you
00:51:21
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know my sources at amazon are nowhere
00:51:22
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near as good as like an Apple but just
00:51:25
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strategically I'm you know it just seems
00:51:27
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like a no-brainer that with the route
00:51:29
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they're going there's seems like a
00:51:31
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no-brainer to tell you eventually do
00:51:33
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that but I just think that it's probably
00:51:37
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one of those things where they're not
00:51:38
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far enough along yet
00:51:39
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yeah which is this is when this is where
00:51:43
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Microsoft would completely announced the
00:51:45
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phone jacks exactly and it would they
00:51:48
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would even say that what we're hoping to
00:51:50
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ship in mid-2014 time next year
00:51:59
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anything did you so you didn't want you
00:52:01
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to watch the motorola event yesterday i
00:52:03
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did not know was it painful
00:52:05
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I wasn't thinking about it it was a
00:52:07
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little well that the first and i guess
00:52:11
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some of this was just not even with the
00:52:13
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band was but there was some band that
00:52:14
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they had and the video that they had
00:52:17
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online them in the first at least 15
00:52:21
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minutes if not 20 minutes was this band
00:52:22
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playing there was an hour long video and
00:52:26
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the first 20 minutes of it was this band
00:52:27
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playing I just thought it was weird I
00:52:31
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mean I know Apple is headbands come in
00:52:33
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play but mostly it's like itunes events
00:52:36
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or ipod events where it's actually a
00:52:38
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music-related event and and in certainly
00:52:43
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certainly and mac words of consumer
00:52:45
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event words we're entertaining the
00:52:47
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people is more makes more sense that
00:52:50
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just seems odd to anyone it's a press
00:52:52
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event too because this thing was not
00:52:55
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you couldn't just show up to go to this
00:52:58
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so anyway so they play the timing is
00:53:00
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wrong on that right strategically like
00:53:02
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just the way Apple does it is the right
00:53:03
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way you do it is you come out to say
00:53:05
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hello you start satiating the curiosity
00:53:10
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of the people who are there you starts
00:53:12
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you know start giving them what they
00:53:14
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want to know here's what we have to say
00:53:16
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here's you know a little preamble here's
00:53:18
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a new product
00:53:19
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here's what it does here's what it looks
00:53:21
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like and then at the end you like hey
00:53:23
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thanks for coming and guess what we have
00:53:24
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a band we have you know johnny is here
00:53:26
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yeah your song right you know what the
00:53:31
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music comes at the end
00:53:32
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yeah and then Eric Schmidt gets up and
00:53:35
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talks about 10 facts about whatever
00:53:37
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►
instrument talks about any introduces
00:53:39
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the guy who is the new head of motorola
00:53:45
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what's that guy's name is rid of that
00:53:49
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with cigarettes anyway
00:53:50
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Dennis Woodside who I noted yesterday
00:53:54
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came from McKinsey which is this big
00:53:57
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consulting management consulting company
00:54:01
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over the wells with a long is on with a
00:54:03
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long history
00:54:05
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yeah and and also
00:54:09
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oversaw the acquisition of motorola
00:54:11
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sunlight to me L that made more sense
00:54:14
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why they spent 2.5 billion to acquire
00:54:17
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more motorola mobility and then they
00:54:20
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showed and add that toward the end and
00:54:23
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the ad i thought was just terrible
00:54:25
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because it it didn't show the product
00:54:27
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all until like the last second was one
00:54:29
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of those ads that shows things flying by
00:54:31
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and it's you know they would say thin
00:54:34
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and it would show a bunch of thin things
00:54:35
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and then it would show that I can
00:54:37
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remember what the other at sort of
00:54:40
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characteristics of the phone that they
00:54:42
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were talking about but they should show
00:54:43
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things that related to the
00:54:44
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characteristics of the phone but not
00:54:45
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actually show the phone until the end
00:54:47
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and maybe it's partly because those
00:54:48
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phones aren't all that great looking
00:54:50
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whereas the Amazon did an ad last night
00:54:53
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during the NFL game that show their
00:54:57
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products all over the woods showing that
00:54:59
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game by the way I I couldn't really say
00:55:02
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and I i could say because i know but i'm
00:55:06
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not going to say and I the ad shows is
00:55:11
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you chose boxes arriving in mailboxes
00:55:14
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and shows the all the candles and showed
00:55:16
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the new devices that would you cover
00:55:19
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that said that was interesting right and
00:55:22
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and not something that apple would do
00:55:25
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but but pretty good and much more
00:55:29
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inspiring to go out and actually buy the
00:55:31
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product them than the one the motorola
00:55:33
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showed i just looked it up on ESPN ends
00:55:37
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up that the dallas cowboys won that
00:55:39
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football game and now have the best
00:55:41
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record in the entire NFL
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they're going all the way I think it's
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without question also top-rated
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quarterback in the NFL Tony Romo
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Wow huh I'm standing
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yeah New York Giants last place out of
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28 teams in NFL no team has a worse
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record in the New York Giants and
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Yankees been doing over the last 10
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no she won't she won't go back to
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politics John people get very upset when
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we talk about where she go back to
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politics because they get various people
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there tues and they tune in for the
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polyp political talk not the sports talk
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they get very upset when we talk about
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sports or we could talk about our
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I you know what these events they do
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they make me uncomfortable to watch
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because i am spoiled i'm totally spoiled
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by Apple which puts on these events that
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are as polished and thoughtful as their
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products right and it's just event after
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event i can't recall and you said I
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can't recall apple ever putting together
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an event that seemed anything less than
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then polished yeah and exactly no
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presents the product and a great light
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and and I think isn't it true that these
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events where the first stage yourself
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events are relatively new phenomenon for
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most of these companies because the way
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things used to be done was they would go
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to contacts or something
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yeah announced identities product be
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tied to these you know call them i don't
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know conventions or yeah and mostly an
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apple was the one who started maybe
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somebody else did it before but Apple
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started hosting their own events and
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then everybody said oh we need a holster
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on events right then there was a thing
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yesterday's yeah the other thing about
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yesterday's dual announcements from
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Motorola and nokia was that they were in
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the same city they were both in New York
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City and that i think the Nokia one
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forget which one first but I think with
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motorola coffers
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I don't care but they were offering
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shuttle buses they offered to sell that
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people from one to another and have the
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nokia nokia paid for a bus that said i
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love nokia in huge letters to shuttle
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the show up at the motorola right and I
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don't know just all seems like I can't
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even imagine Apple doing that now
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like if Apple held an event and somebody
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else happened to be holding I had the
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stones to hold one in the same city on
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the same day
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applewood just wouldn't give two craps
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about anybody who wanted to attend both
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that if the you know the timing made it
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difficult or whatever it's you know it's
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too you know that you're dumb luck for
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want to cover both because you they know
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which one you're going to cover right
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I can't imagine anybody being dumb
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enough to do that right to say no apples
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holding an event it ten o'clock on
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tuesday will will hold one at noon right
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you know what i should do I should do
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the second sponsor
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okay great app for the iphone and I pen
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drafts now there's a whole bunch of
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note-taking apps text editing apps for
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iOS but drafts really stands out for a
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couple of reasons first is they have a
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great idea which is that as soon as you
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launch the app the most likely thing you
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want to do is start writing an idea
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start writing a note so every time you
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launch the app the first thing you get
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is a new blank note so you're walking
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around you have an idea you think I want
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to write that down
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take out your phone launch drafts and
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boom you've got a new note start typing
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second thing they have is terrific sink
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you sign up for their own syncing
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service and everything instantly as soon
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as just type something on your iPhone
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it's in the ipad version make a change
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in the ipad on the iphone and it just
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works great i have I its instantaneous
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works great i have I its instantaneous
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and just perfect sync which i think is
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essential for any note taking up
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absolutely they have a great little
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custom keyboard little bar above the
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keyboard with a bunch of commonly-used
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characters including markdown fans
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including an asterisk so you don't have
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to work to get asterisk for italian
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retalix not Italian
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although you can write Italian drafts
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works in English and a time I and a dash
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and I think I'm dash they also have left
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and right arrow keys for moving the
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insertion point and left Wow wordwise
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insertion point I all very very
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conveniently located so you can go
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it's like using option arrow on a mac so
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word word word left from right nice on
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really really convenient and you know as
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much as I love and think it's genius the
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the text placement built into iOS where
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you rub your finger there if you just
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want to go back a couple characters and
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you're already using the keyboard having
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those arrow keys is great and said to me
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it's a feature that Apple should rely
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think Apple should really think about
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adding to iOS really really convenient
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especially on the ipad i think where the
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room is there and is a hos looks like
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there's a host of output eyeballs that
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is that's the that's the next best part
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and yeah you can post to twitter you can
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post to Facebook saved at Caesars
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dropbox exactly so you can use it if you
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know as the sort of place where you
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stashed weeks if you if you had draft
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tweets you can use it for that
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oh yeah I'm it hooks to dropbox you can
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sync everything to dropbox it hopes to
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Evernote has support for printing and it
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for you can forward the text of any
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draft in the app to a bunch of apps that
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that have like a dead they hook up with
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the URL protocol so they can cross
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communicate you can send them to apps
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here's the list apps that they work with
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right now but it's growing all the time
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omnifocus things agenda and tweet
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bot big-name apps very popular app so it
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will send stuff back and forth with
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those apps it's just great so draft for
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iphone is 199 and drafts for ipad is 299
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on the App Store go check them out so go
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to the App Store search for draft it's a
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great app and i highly recommend it for
01:02:33
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the iphone and the ipad pulling I'm
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pulling a leo laporte i'm downloading it
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right now I would really recommend it
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I all I wanted ad say i wanted to say
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this this week because it's one of those
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things that I won't be able to say next
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week in the room you know obviously did
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such a rumor that it seems like it's got
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to be true the rumors that the screen on
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the new iphone is going to be the same
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with but it's going to be taller and
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it's gonna be taller by the you know
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what are they going to do with the home
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screen is going to add an extra row of
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icons on the home screen and I've been
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thinking about that and it's actually
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made me a little nervous because I've
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gotten my my homescreen my first two
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home screens which are really the only
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2i keep organized I know where all the
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icons are and I've kind of settled in
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I've kind of gotten into old-man mode
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where I it's very rare that i changed
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appt in there and I don't know what I'm
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gonna do with that extra row of icons if
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you were Henry Blodget you can't base an
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entire piece on this fact that would
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obviously be enabled really angry
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yeah tirade about how Apple's ruining
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here do you do you do meticulously
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organized your icons and I would not say
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meticulously home screen and maybe like
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the first beyond that yeah the first
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page yes but anything beyond that is is
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kind of a little bit more of a mouse was
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somebody had a line the other day about
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Henry Blodgett he was it was a good
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crack about Henry blockage of you
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written about it easy
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no no it's easy to make it is he wished
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he had a thing tonight coming argued
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iphone iphone 5 is is doomed or
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I think he said that the iphone 5
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is already annoying him i write down
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something the other guys going like that
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but maybe Blodgett too i think yeah this
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is that it seems like there are at least
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a couple of its equipment that is a
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common refrain in the run-up to an apple
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product announcement that before it's
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even announce that you're tired of the
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hype that they're tired of it and ate
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yeah and they always direct these
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complaints about the hype at Apple that
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it's great that does is right but what
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what what could Apple do differently to
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do not have this type they don't say
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anything I've said nothing i can't I
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really truly believe that they haven't
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purposefully leaked anything all of
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these parts if it turns out that these
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parts that have leaked are legit and
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that this you know that we kind of
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already have an idea what this new
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iphone looks like ah I can't help but
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think that Apple is upset about that
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would be funny if that if that company
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that's selling the android is actually
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an apple shell company my god never got
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a group photo now it's all just yeah
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hold up to build up hype for the iphone
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five we're gonna have this company cela
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complete knockoff of it right like you
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know it's like a couple of times a month
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at like five o'clock they blowing off
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steam and there's the Schiller and jony
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ive and was our that was jaws just hit
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the ribbons it's not suggesting around
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out of having beers on the connection
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setup i'm going show somebody sell the
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google what's the silliest name they can
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come up with
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I don't know Frank was the worst
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possible maybe you can think of right
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and goophone it's sort of a knocking
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google i get you know could be if it
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were a ended up it was a shell company
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got yeah woody sionary yeah
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I so I don't talk about the FBI thing
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oh let's do that yeah and then we're
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adding i would think we call it show
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yeah yeah the FBI thing is really weird
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and you said your idea i didn't look
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mine up but I did and I did not find any
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you know it it's it I'm but I'm not a
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hundred percent sure here's what i died
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i downloaded the file
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it's like 90 gigabytes and they give you
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these instructions where you can verify
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it and you know the md5 hash that you
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know it's legit then you run decrypt it
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and then you have a big txt file it's
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like 830 megabytes or something like
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that so I opened up in bbedit with
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handles big file like that no problem
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and I start searching for my uu IDs from
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my the devices i have an active use a
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couple of my iphones and a couple of my
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iPads that I have the uuid are you DIDS
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I keep calling right into eyes udid
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device ids and none of mine were a hit
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IUDs right but I am I even ask you a
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couple of a couple of people on Twitter
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pointed out that there were two devices
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in their name John Gruber's you have had
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an idea i looked and there is there were
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two devices with that name and but I
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looked in the uuid you DIDS did not
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match any of the ones that i have stored
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now it's possible because I i have had
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an absurd number of ipads come through
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here we're like review units from apple
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because I've had new ones like when a
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new one comes out and i had like a new
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ipad 2 in a new ipad 3 that I didn't
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keep you know that I get them i use them
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for a couple of weeks and then I box
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them back up and just and ship them to
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apple and I you know I buy my own that
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if I'm going by 12 actually own but
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they've also given me ones like like at
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the at books event last year and you
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know the the textbook event New York
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City it's like you they just give them
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out like candy
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you know yeah when they review stuff or
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with mountain lion they gave me one
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because i wanted to give me one that had
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like Ike tunes documents in the cloud
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that sinking that worked or whatever
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they just set them up to to be able to
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review these features they want you to
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be able to do and they just they just
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set everything up so that they're all
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ready to go and they just give them to
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you know and you don't keep them they
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you know you sign a thing that says I
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you know have taken this from you and
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it's possible it is possible that maybe
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I had one of those that i plugged in and
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i just got lazy because I knew it wasn't
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going to keep it and just took that
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default name because I don't name them
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like that I don't name them John
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Gruber's ipad
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I you know I have other and then my
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devices different ways but i don't use
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that name but maybe I did maybe i got
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lazy so maybe there were two of mine in
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there i don't know i like the idea that
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other people were naming him that
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yeah but anyway that the still no answer
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of how these how this file came to exist
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you know and I guess that right intrigue
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is the initial reaction i think a lot of
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people had was this suspicion that that
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Apple had been sharing this information
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with the FBI for some reason Apple has
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since denied that the FBI is designed it
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right oh and the other thing to point
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out to keep in mind is that the this
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anti sec antisocial what the hell's
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their name and I seconds their name i
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think that the hacker group that
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releases claims that the original file
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they took from the guys laptop had 12
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million entries and that they've only
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the public release was only a random
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1,000,000 slice of it so the only ten
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percent of the numbers they claim or
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were there were actually in this public
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one so just because you know your udid
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isn't in there doesn't it wasn't it the
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full file that hasn't been released
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publicly yeah and what the FBI issued a
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statement but the state you know and
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it's pretty rare for them to even
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address something like this but it does
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have some wiggle room in there
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well this statement does but then
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apparently they denied it
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they denied it much more forcefully on
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twitter which i think is also funny that
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the FBI has a twitter
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account like imagine like over the
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character was available like 40 years
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ago when Jennifer there Jay let's look
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was alive you know what that you say
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that but did you must not have seen
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clint eastwood's Hoover movie because
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there's like a full pot in there one of
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those things like you know like
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sometimes like a Miami font nerd so
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sometimes they'll be like a movie that
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takes place in 1953 and there's
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something in helvetica neue Helvetica
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didn't come out till nineteen
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fifty-seven so it's you know that's a
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there was a scene in eastwood Hoover
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movie where Hoover was at sexting really
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yeah he was sexting on it on a little
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i'm like an iphone and then somebody
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pointed out to eastwood after it came
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out that the iphone you have cell phones
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weren't didn't exist for another 60
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years and he told them you're making
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that up i have not seen the movie but
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you must be making that up at any rate
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the FBI the FBI their their their
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twitter post was was unequivocal and
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Marco has a have linked to something
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this morning about the sky
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I'm sure when mispronounces a boge
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engagement of flux ads I thinks that
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maybe it came from a nap or a series of
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apps from the Swiss company called spank
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apps is for real yeah yeah I'm there's a
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was an app called glitter draw free that
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he had this guy had installed that's
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sending the associated push
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notifications token to third-party
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service anyway understandable but
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possibly i mean so people are coming up
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with you are trying to come up with
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other ways that this might have happened
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and thats what it series is that it's a
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third-party app yeah i would not be
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surprised if that's the source is a
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third-party app or ad network maybe that
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had a bunch of apps use something like
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you know and it does seem like the more
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I looked into it that it's whatever the
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source it's not that egregious a leak
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I guess it's likely that a bunch of AD
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networks all have your device ids and
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your device names just because it was
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you know that's how it was easy
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up until iOS 6 apples actually making
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that something that the apps can't do in
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ios6 just get these device itz they're
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gonna have another way of getting a
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unique identifier is that won't be the
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same across different apps so you'll
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have more privacy
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this is it's not a terrible privacy
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variolation but it's definitely
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something and then more i'm marco also
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is the source that link to the the right
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up i linked to yesterday about the the
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way that you could use a simple URL API
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from openfeint who is like it's tied to
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a bunch of games and you can put you
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diii d in there and it'll tell you
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everything they know about that udid
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yeah for some people was coming up with
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things like the facebook profile and
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pictures you know like there-there
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avatar and when the guy first reported
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it there was you know it was actually
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even worse it even had like GPS data and
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after he reported it this is like two
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years ago or a year and a half ago they
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stay took out the location data from
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that API code but you know there could
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be some other service out there that has
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you know the same type of thing and
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maybe has you know this same sort of
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privacy problems or you could because
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once you know somebody's name and their
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location i mean that's that's a that's a
01:14:26
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lot of the answer good way to get
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started on you know having some fun
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yeah he said that a little too really
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just not that I would ever you know
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right it's a good thing I don't know how
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to do any of this stuff
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did youdid you so you didn't even like
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you didn't even look at I didn't like
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now I don't know what I'm going to do it
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mm not much but it's really there really
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is nothing to me there's no you can't
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change your udid right still is a weird
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yeah did you also see and just to to
01:15:05
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circle back this might be going in the
01:15:06
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show circle back on politics if you've
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seen this story about the hacker that
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claims to have stolen that romney's tax
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yeah and I did this is actually a really
01:15:17
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intriguing story so this story is that
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an anonymous hacker has posted these
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things on Mike pastebin and and claims
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and it's been verified that he walked
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into a pricewaterhousecoopers office in
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my Tennessee and a guy on that said that
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a guy in the third floor let him in and
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that he put he walked out with on a USB
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I don't think he says how many but
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several years of Mitt Romney's personal
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income tax returns before 2010 which he
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hasn't released in which has been very
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controversial in this election because
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presidential candidates typically
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release many years are several years of
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their taxes and there's a lot of
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speculation that that there's the reason
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he hasn't is you know that there's some
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stuff in there that's politically
01:16:12
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unsavory in other words that he's
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probably paid of evidence certainly low
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yeah and he also has a whole collection
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of people's you DIDS a jacket but anyway
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this hacker then encrypted the data and
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put the encrypted version on a USB stick
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and mailed it to both the Democrats and
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the Republicans in an envelope and with
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a letter that exactly no saying what he
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done and saying that he wants romney or
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the Romney campaign to give him a
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million dollars in bitcoins which
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presumably would be untraceable I think
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that's the way Bitcoin works i'm pretty
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sure i mean it's you know it would be
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pretty stupid if it weren't that you
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know the Bitcoin works like cash for
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once you transfer it it's you know it's
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there is no it's not like credit
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transactions there's no banking history
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yeah he wants a million dollars in
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bitcoins before September 28-30 else is
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going to release it publicly and if
01:17:15
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anybody else wants it like in the
01:17:17
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pressure whatever the first one to be
01:17:19
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given them billion dollars in bitcoins
01:17:21
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either gets the key or they'll destroy
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the key and you know it seems like there
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it seems so outlandish I mean why in the
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world would his tax returns being in
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Tennessee but it doesn't seem like you
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know the Secret Service is looking into
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it and it seems like there might be some
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smoke to the fire
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yeah it's interesting you don't mean at
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this point it's hard to tell but well I
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guess here's what I the one who either
01:17:57
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are really outrageous scam right or wear
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a green espionage story right and
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pricewaterhousecoopers is issued not
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you're not really a denial but just as
01:18:07
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far as we know this hasn't happened but
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they haven't said anything at it here's
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what I here's what I wonder
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alright it are his tax returns in that
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office in tennessee right if they're not
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well then they could you know they could
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say it's not even possible does it
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we have no tax returns for Mitt Romney
01:18:30
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in that office and then the whole story
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yeah right they haven't said that but
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would they say that you know i mean like
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it's one of those things like you know
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you not negotiating with terrorists were
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maybe you know even if it's not there
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you don't say that because then if it
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you're not saying that would be a
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giveaway that it was there that make
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sense yes sort of sort of sort of at
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this time there is no se at this is
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there and it actually is
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sounds exactly like what the FBI had
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said about the bi DS is in their
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official statement at this time there is
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no evidence that our systems have been
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compromised which is not
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really Adonai huh no I mean and maybe
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they don't know right and i also would
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not be surprised if it's their policy to
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not really can truly confirm or deny
01:19:29
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that it was even possible
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you know that they're not they don't
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want to have people playing bingo trying
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to guess which is where his tax returns
01:19:37
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really are but I don't know it just
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seems like the way that the statement
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and a way that the secret services is
01:19:43
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looking into this that you know there
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might be something to it if pwc has a
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system you know if they do people's tax
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returns and I have a system where they
01:19:54
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store all this stuff right get access it
01:19:57
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you could theoretically access it from
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any office could be in the cloud you're
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saying yeah i mean it would be it would
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be in there on their will at least on
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their well probably not on a cloud but
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in their land right yeah I guess that
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does make sense i guess it would you
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know I guess that if he had anybody any
01:20:14
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pricewaterhousecoopers do it that maybe
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they do have a system like that it
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wouldn't just be local
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i guess.i guess that does make a lot of
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sense that it doesn't really matter that
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if you know if you're if you're in the
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Tennessee office working on some rich
01:20:28
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guys tax taxes you have access to the
01:20:30
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same system not necessarily the same you
01:20:35
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wouldn't necessarily have access to the
01:20:38
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I'm thinking too much about how i turn
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my taxes is which with my accountant
01:20:42
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where we're just you know I just come in
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with shoebox superplex full of receipts
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exactly and you know that it's like two
01:20:54
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slips of paper and like walk with 1 1099
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from macworld for a column I road that
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just throw it at him and say here and
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you know and then have you talked to
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talk sports for 15 minutes and then and
01:21:08
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he does it all right and then it's all
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going you know what I'm pretty sure Mitt
01:21:13
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Romney doesn't go to to i would guess
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that it's different for him would be
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great of his tax return the guy if it's
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totally the jet and they don't pay up
01:21:20
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and the guy releases it publicly and his
01:21:24
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tax returns are are just absolutely like
01:21:26
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there's nothing to it there's absolutely
01:21:29
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nothing interesting in them
01:21:31
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whatsoever just mean nothing to him you
01:21:37
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know just exactly like it's 2010 11
01:21:44
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because it doesn't at this point
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everybody is assumes that there's
01:21:47
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something preposterous in their right to
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exist you know that this you know that
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just shows that you know yeah took all
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this money and send it to the cayman
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cayman islands and right now I paid
01:21:57
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thirty seven dollars and income tax on
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20 million dollars in capital gains
01:22:04
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so what's your last thing
01:22:09
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are you a nervous flyer yes
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did you know you know that i didn't know
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that yeah and that's why I thought to
01:22:17
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call this out this is a this is an
01:22:20
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incident earlier today this is gonna is
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gonna freak me out
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i I'm not fly I'm not flying everything
01:22:27
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your future so here's here's the story a
01:22:29
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US airways flight headed for Dallas
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Philadelphia was diverted back to
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Philadelphia this morning because of a
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false threat that identified a
01:22:38
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particular passenger is carrying
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now here's the statement from Chief
01:22:44
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Inspector Joe Sullivan commander of the
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Philadelphia Police Department's
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anti-terrorism unit all indications are
01:22:50
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this was a hoax and a pretty next eprice
01:22:53
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played on a passenger
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well so the plane goes up and they the
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guy called in and said that the guy had
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liquid explosives and plan and they had
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the flight and apparently that they that
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they named the flight and said where it
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was going that he was on flight 1267
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going to dallas is a 7 730 flight and
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they named the particular individual
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said he was smuggling smuggling and
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explosive on a flight to texas and so
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they immediately told the plane to come
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back and they they gave it the full
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treatment with the you know I guess
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parked on the runway as far away from
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everything else is they could surround
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it had in a long forcement board the
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plane and take the guy take the guy out
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and outside the plane had him get down
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on his knees and and had like the
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bomb-sniffing dogs you know give him the
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once-over apparently the fellow was very
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surprised and and and upset you think so
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i was like a friend of his or side maybe
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yeah well does this not seem like the
01:24:00
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stupidest prank you've ever heard of it
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yes because i believe it's pretty close
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like did the guy who made this prank did
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you really think that he was going to
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get away with it
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it'sit's I cannot wait to hear the rest
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of this story this is the story that I
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am I am so intrigued to find the bottom
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here's the other thing the plane did
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eventually depart for Dallas around like
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11 o'clock or 1130 or something like
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that now would you if you were on that
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flight and this happened here again you
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it wasn't you who was the victim of the
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prank you're just you know 20 rows back
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and all you know is that i'm goin back
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to Philly and and then megs points would
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you would you then take the flight to
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dallas i probably apparently many custom
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many of the passengers refused to get
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back on and refused to get back on the
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yeah well i guess like I mean I guess
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you eat if you think that maybe there's
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somebody who had his bag still on the
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plane right you're getting on exactly
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the same plane that would be that would
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be questionable right
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like what you know or maybe he had a
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Confederate or something like that like
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yeah yeah that whatever the odds are
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that the that any given flight you're
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going to be on is going to have that and
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a terrorist explosion let's call it
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one-in-a-million which is probably way
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too hot yeah it looks like this is all
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right let's say you're a nervous flyer
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than you think the odds are one in a
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million the odds of your flight having
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something like this happen after this on
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the same plane that the guy had somehow
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left the bag or you know hidden hidden
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something in the bathroom or something
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like that you gotta figure it's whatever
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the odds are it's greater than the one
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in a million of a average other flight
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right yeah I have a phobia is that you
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don't use it's not rational
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it's not your ass
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you're obsessed with let me tell you
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about it rationally about it
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yeah i'm less afraid I i might just to
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show you how irrational my phobias I'm
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time afraid of turbulence that's mostly
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what I'm afraid I'm less afraid of being
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bombed right data and cache I'm also
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afraid of cats my wife's character
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terrified in turbulence really why if I
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i can see some day my wife if there's
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turbulence that I could just see her
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getting up go ahead and just pop it open
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the door and just jumping out just
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taking chances
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yeah you know you can't do that no but I
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was not that does not work yet
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yeah turbulence is a bit of biz is not
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good for for my life now i am which is
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in really statistically speaking again
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yeah you know I'm like statistically way
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that happened it's always am almost
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always on if there's like it just like a
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regular accident
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it's almost always on takeoff and
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landing yeah we had a fight once we did
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have a flight was probably easily the
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worst flight that we ever took together
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as we had a flight I forget where we
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were going to San Francisco but it was
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it was a long flight and it was it was
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so much turbulence that throughout that
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the seatbelt light never went off on the
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floor card that is my nightmare
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yeah so it was and you know it was going
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on I was like I remember being lucky
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that because i usually have to pee
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because I drink some coffee so like not
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being able to pee like I remember that I
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even had the thought like you know what
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I don't care of the seat belt lights off
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if I have to pee
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I'm going yeah I'm you know I'll take
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I'll take them scolding me rather than
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being in my pants
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I'm not being my pads but i did you know
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it was it ended up i ended up maybe it's
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like because i got like you know maybe
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because I was thinking about it I never
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really got to be that that desperate and
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in terms of the pink but it was a very
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that's a lot of turbulence yeah and it
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was it was pretty much it was pretty bad
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for her because it never really wears
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off either that's the other thing and I
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feel terrible for because it's not like
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well an hour in of the turbulent flight
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now she's settled it was pretty much
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like white-knuckled the whole time
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yeah all in fact I believe I believe she
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had the thought
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we got off that we were going to drive
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home I would yeah I just can't wait I'm
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so hoping that this guy was just like
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his buddy and in that it's just some
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yeah who thought that young be calling
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the threat like that and everybody would
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just have a good laugh you're gonna do
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some jail time
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oh I think it was a serious is a serious
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jail time there is Gary like after all
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there is so that i don't know that
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there's anywhere in Western civilization
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where there is less of a sense of humor
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then airline security and you know there
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are knuckleheads who you just think
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that's funny and that they can do that
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you should have seen the look on your
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face yeah TSA does they they specialize
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that's like the first thing they really
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that's really the only thing they look
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for when they hire is a sense of humor
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you get that you get that feeling